Guys: With Bryan Quinby - Guys: Episode 29 - Cheap Guys with Tom Walker

Episode Date: August 29, 2023

We talked about cheap guys, it turns out that I might not be one, we talked about my past spending, what makes a cheap guy (it is generally someone that can afford stuff but lives like they can't, we are not talking about people who are broke, don't get mad at us)  It was a lot of fun and we learned a few tricks to save money! Tom Walker streams at Twitch.tv/tomwalker and he is one of the hosts of bigsofttitty.png Chris is twitter.com/thecjs and Not Even a Show is on https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrCbpXz1nGdXJbsPmKxMvjQ  For More Guys you can hear Guys+ at patreon.com/murderxbryan and we stream at twitch.tv/murderxbryan    

Welcome to Guys, the podcast about guys. I am Brian, a frugal boy, and I would like to introduce mr money mustache chris james how are you you can't it's not fair to just like give me these bad nicknames but that's a guy you're gonna be fucking amped to find out who mr money mustache is oh that's a it's a real it's a real person? Yeah. Oh, okay. I thought you were just mocking me in sort of a weird way. No, okay.

That's cool then. So we're doing cheap guys? That's the episode? Yeah. And we brought somebody who the Patreon got to hear, the first ever guest on Guys Plus. We got Tom Walker. Hi, Tom. What's up, guys? uh honored to be here and do

want to immediately push back on brian's self-identification as a cheap guy because you're saying that with a lego in frame brian like we can't be we can't say that you're good with money when i've tried i tried i said this before we started before i went to do this i was like i'm a cheap motherfucker and this is like the first episode where it's like this is really the type of guy i am and then people started replying to me and saying didn't you accidentally buy ten thousand dollars worth of legos in like a year i'm like yeah that was an accident though i didn't mean it yeah do you think you're the kind of cheap guy that uh will like you'll

like get the the the cheap beans at the store for example but you've okay no no so hang on so what led you to think you were a cheap guy in any way are you just yeah at all are you it's not as delusional as much as it's like i don't like when how much things cost i think yeah but you buy things all the time so much of this podcast is you talking about like buying streetwear or lego yeah how expensive it is i guess that's why he thinks it's a cheap guy like he thinks that people who aren't cheap are just like excited about paying a bunch of money for something i'm not sure yeah i mean i i understand what you're saying a little bit brian and that you like feel like a cheap guy because you feel this like guilt when you're buying it like you don't have enough money to be buying it but i don't think you are a cheap guy and i think that's what you're saying here is that you learn

that you're not right when people started saying like how did how how could you possibly spend that much on legos and then before legos it was the hypebeast stuff and before that it was i don't even know i'll say this when mp3 players came out i had six before most people bought one. What the fuck do you mean? What's wrong with that? What do you mean you had six? You were fucking at a bandolier system for these? You're not home with scientist genres? I'm working at the cable company from 2002 to 2009.

Now you're getting smart. Now he says he's working at the cable company instead of saying he was the cable guy because he knows what i'll do if he says yeah that's really good so i buy an mp3 player to listen to in the van uh with a odd with one of the do you remember when they sold mp3 players and you had to buy one of those belkin things you plug into it that puts it on 88.3 on your radio yeah i do remember that definitely but so this is i'm with you so far on the first 20 on the on the first mp3 player i think against him i think i'm gonna die first

mp3 player and i think it's we we understand the necessity even for that first i think it's the additional five i predict myself falling off at mp3 player number two three at a maximum i will i yeah i'm gonna say i only understand mp3 player number one so i bought the first one and it was cheap and i shouldn't have bought that one like it was like a 50 or some it was just some price that was like it was never gonna actually be good i think it was rca brand which is like even normal i think that's a normal brand but i don't i don't know for sure yeah i mean maybe that's a cheap one you know so then uh that thing fucking breaks and i tell my wife like well that broke because i bought it cheap So I bought an expensive one for number two.

And then that one broke. And then I was like, you know what? You can't buy a cheaper one than the one that just broke. So I buy a more expensive one. And then I went off on this little tangent where I started buying different serious XM radios, where I bought the Xm myfi which was

i didn't know people really i thought people only $400 for the radio yeah dude you could get that in the car in the car how much is a car version of it like not even that amount it was $70 i think it would have been cheaper to just leave your car running near wherever you were and just have it blasting up the window i've never heard of anyone having a mi-fi the only person i've ever heard i think is like bobo on opiate anthony that had a mi-fi or wanted to i had two of them yeah wow why were you breaking them out of curiosity i'm hard on stuff like my wife and stuff will say like oh you're hard on everything i see you just like treat it kind of roughly like you're not you don't you just sort of like yeah you don't like wrap up the

cord nicely you know like you just kind of wrap the cord around the mp3 player and stick it in your pocket that kind of buying a 300 mp3 player and he's hitting it to start it like the funds laying into it just a spinning back fist every time he wants to hear corn well the mp3 the mifi had like an antenna on it that was like you're supposed to like clip it on your clothes or whatever when you're out walking around but i wasn't out walking around i was working so i just hung it out of the window of my van wait a second wait a second why didn't you get the van and the one that goes in the van it was another 80 bucks and that's what i'm saying no no no no but originally because i wanted i thought you could walk around with it and record it because nowadays that would be because you obviously walk

around all the time but you're saying at this point in your life you were not walking around no no i didn't walk much but i wanted to like have it so that when i'm climbing poles at the cable company i can have it i know and then or when you're at hedonism, you know, climbing poles, wherever it may be. When I was working in the backyard, but I found out it didn't even work when you were in the backyard. You know what I mean?

You had to be in the front yard. No, it just didn't work. The thing was a piece of shit. What is this item? And what are you hanging out of the window of your van? It's a, it's a thing to want to listen to serious satellite radio because it was like you know the only way to listen to it at that

point was in your car and then they had they made these my five things that you could carry around with you and listen and very few people use them they were not popular yeah and so then when you look at a picture of it you're you look at a picture of it, you're like, that's barely portable? Yeah, it was too big. Too big, yeah. Brian bought the non-car version of a seemingly car-exclusive item

and then hung it out of his van anyway? You got it. Do you understand how I feel like I'm solving a riddle here? I don't, I can't. Yeah, yeah. This started off with the conversation about how brian thought he was a cheap guy once that thing once that thing the second one bit the dust i went and bought another mp3 player started downloading opiate anthony and ron and put it on the mp3 player and then that thing broke

so i bought another one and then finally when smartphones came out it was like oh good i can stop buying these fucking mp3 players so i was buying them all the time i was buying them like fucking three a year at some point because they were just breaking all the fucking time the things break they're no no but i've listen i i understand they do sometimes i had i had them growing up and i but not three a year that's no that's that's operator uh error you know like you're you're responsible for like i have to agree with your wife but i think you're probably kind of hard on electronics maybe just everything so then like everything i do i'm really hard on people are maybe right like i sit down hard so i break chairs a lot of times just has like a damage field around him

putting damage and that's what may be less cheap is then my wife was like well you gotta stop buying all this cheap stuff because you know you're ripping holes in your pants all the time and yeah you know so then it became like well i'll spend a little more money on nice stuff and then i got addicted to the hypebeast thing and i'd still be doing the hypebeast thing if it wasn't for the legos the legos got so expensive i was like one of these has got to go and i like the legos more but in in even in the early clothes than the clothes that you wear well i still have a lot of expensive okay fair enough yeah and if you're not like a real you know you can they can last you a long time because they're good quality and so if you're not really into the hype of it

and you've just got a bunch of good clothes if you don't mind wearing them yeah and the lego stuff started it really did start out like i'm not gonna buy a lego set more than a hundred dollars that's that's that was what you initially said that's what i initially said now i'm buying i mean i hate to say it on the show how much i've spent on some of these sets like i mean you did show a photograph of your dookie to everyone so i feel like castle up there on top of my uh thing there yeah we're looking at it right man and then a big building okay so that's that's like a pac-man arcade game that you've built there out of lego yeah that was 250 but that that green house next to it was 475 i bought they they and and this this is you're buying these direct from lego the store yeah i go to the store so these guys so lego these lego people are yeah yeah they are

absolutely ripping people off you You just can't. If you tell me you're cheap and broke and you're on the Legos, I know you're full of shit. Wait, that's you. That's what you were doing. I know. Why did you say that?

He's totally full of shit. But I don't like spending money. I'll tell you, i don't like spending money i'll tell you i don't like spending money no one does like no one's like yeah i think brian i think you think that for like for someone else seeing like a hundred dollars leave their bank account feels the same as like when cum leaves your balls but it doesn't i don't only for really rich guys you have to be like very very rich you know for that to not matter i think i think otherwise certainly for me and i i know i i've mentioned i live in vancouver where it's become almost unlivably uh expensive and so you do kind of have to be a cheap like i'm gonna on this one i'm gonna

definitely find a lot of like i'm not gonna really be able to make fun of these people too much i don't think because i'm really gonna understand where they're coming from i mean some stuff i think i did end up finding myself sort of agreeing with them but here's a question that somebody asked on on frugal which by the way on our frugal their description is so weird to me because it sounds like somebody it says frugality is the mental approach we each take when considering our resource allocations it includes time money convenience and many other factors no it's being cheap why like why do they have to talk like that you know what i mean well and also like i've noticed just reading a lot of these frugal guys and stuff is that like it doesn't

take time into account ever no they are always like i will spend eight hours of my life to save 12 yes i will and it's it's such a crazy outlay like you have to and that's one of the things about frugality to me is you have to learn to like value your time like for me i still have my time like valued is like kind of where i where i was when i was working retail you know yeah yeah that's fair sorry go on continue no no no that's it you go i i was um thinking that yeah frugality can be kind of funny like there's old people in the lower main like we have gas prices you know that are big issues and they'll drive far enough that it costs them more money do you know what i mean like so they oh they have cheaper gas prices outside of vancouver in this place and they'll drive there to get that gas but then

they've lost money but it's not about that it's about getting the cheaper gas that was a subject on frugality recently like uh it says 47 days ago, but it says, do you waste $10 on gas to save $3 and come out of it satisfied? Store A has an item you want for $17, but store B at the other side of town has the same item for $14. And do you drive to store B? Now, I didn't get any of the replies because most of them were like, no. Because if you start working out the math, then you're just, because these people are working out,

they have algorithms for how much gas it takes. Because there's no real way. I mean, I guess you could sort of work it out in your mind how much gas it takes to get to another place. But yeah, I used to get to another place but yeah i used to drive to the suburbs because gas downtown here is like 50 cents more a gallon than it or a liter as you guys would say whatever it's like 50 cents more per gallon i really appreciate that i really do appreciate that i had no idea what you're talking about for me that was gobbledygook until you came in with just so you know a liter is like a gallon is exactly a liter

and from there on it's crystal clear when i got to fucking canada i was fucked on that leader stuff man when i was i was like i just don't even know where this money's going like i don't know i didn't know how high the money was gonna go on because when i'm at home i have 10 gallons in my car i know how high it goes i see but you might know what i'm gonna pay if i get there with the leaders i'm like this money could just never stop it could yeah that's yeah tell you what tell you what some of the gas prices around here, sometimes it never does. Sometimes it feels like it never does. Let's look at

you. This is from Kramer390 and he asks you. Oh no, Kramer, I hope he doesn't. He says, he goes, does anyone else leave the door open when they're done cooking in the winter? Oof, dem free warmies.

And then people start replying. He goes, you can also vacuum to warm things up. So they're asked, wait, how does that work? He goes, the motor in the vacuum ends up generating a bit of heat. I saw it on Reddit once, and after vacuuming in the winter, realized it really did up generating a bit of heat. I saw it on Reddit once and after vacuuming in the winter realized it really did create a little bit of warmth. I think you would need to be in like some sort of pod for that. Or a very temperate winter perhaps.

Yeah. So this guy's like the hotter the air is, the faster it'll rise. So wouldn't it actually be less wasteful to keep the door open, keep the oven door closed, so that the heat will dissipate slowly at a three to four foot height around the stove, rather than rushing quickly to the ceiling where you don't want it in a big bubble. So these guys are talking, you know. I think if you're this cheap a guy guy you have to go ahead and just be

like i'm wearing my coat and gloves inside at all times i think so i know guys that do that though i'm one of those guys i hate i really hate turning on heating or air conditioning i will like and for no reason like but i i just i'm like i i don't think i can fathom things changing for the better i'll just be like no it's cold and so. And so I'm just going to put on clothes. I'm going to walk around my house wearing like three sweaters. I've talked about my bill. So my electric bill in the summertime is about $400 a month. But in the wintertime, it's like $40 a month because I always, all year round, keep the house 60 to 65 degrees.

So in the summer, it's very expensive when it's like 100 degrees outside. And I'm like, you got to keep it low. I like a very cold house. So during the winter, I do save a bunch of money. You're keeping the house at 18 degrees Celsius? Yeah. Holy shit, dude. 60, about. Yeah, 60. of money well you're keeping the house at 8 18 degrees celsius yeah dude 60 about yeah 60 yeah 65 is 18 degrees holy 65 is warm though i usually try to get it to 60 and and in the old apartment it was 58 which that was why my electric bill got to be so much in the old apartment that's really low 15 degrees chris that's 15 that's really old apartment that's really low isn't it 15 degrees

chris that's 15 that's really low right that's really low that's like put on a jumper outside yeah that's that's not high that's kind of it's fun learning about brian why did you start this off saying you're cheap i don't know because i don't that's another thing i don't, that's another thing. I don't think about the bills when I do things. I think that's what cheap people do. It's really essential for cheap. Yeah. Yeah. That's a big part of it.

That's almost all of it, Brian. I would say that that is like a small percentage of people that think about the bills. I don't know. I often think about that. Oh, when they do stuff. Okay. Because I was going to say, I'm really irresponsible. Like, I don't think about the bills oftentimes until they call.

Even if I have the money, I don't think about it until they call me and say, hey, you're supposed to have paid your bill because I'm very irresponsible and I put things off. I think most people aren't like that. But yeah, you're right. I don't think there are too many people who are like making considerations. Those, you have to be very cheap or be, you know, in a very bad financial situation, obviously where you're like struggling so much

that you have to consider those things. Well, and also I think part of it is like, it's another job, right? Like it's so much energy that you actually are treating it's another job right like it's it's so much energy that you actually are treating it as another job and you're like i'm gonna spend hours of my life working out exactly how to save ten dollars yeah that's who we want to laugh about sorry brian i just want that's who we want to laugh about is like just to be clear is yeah people who have enough money and are doing

this out of some strange frugality, you know, when they don't need to be doing it, not the people who are like, Hey, I have to open up the stove because my house is too cold. And I might die if I don't open the stove up. Yeah.

I'm not too good for too long. I just don't have a, have a husband or wife loser. They're everywhere. Well, here's a, here's a, here's a thought loser they're everywhere well here's a here's a here's a thought experiment they did on our frugal and it says is there a way to reduce expensive

expenses to zero dollars okay hang on a second this is this is my up my alley this kind of experiment zero dollars so you would have to be i guess you're having to forage and or hunt and kill for all of your food yeah i think yeah the life hack you're going to uncover there is stealing i assume that works he goes i'm thinking of zero dollars of liability as well i get that house hacking etc can make your expenses feel like zero, but technically you're still spending and earning money in order to live. The only times in my life when my expenses were 100% taken care of were, one, when I was growing up and my parents paid for everything. Okay. Yeah.

That's true. You could go back to baby mode. and two when i worked as an au pair in germany i had to work 20 to 30 hours per week but my housing food insurance transportation etc was all taken care of spending money was 100 optional in the u.s even living in the most frugal way imaginable i simply can't think of any way to get to zero dollars without breaking the law even if you lived in a fully paid off car on a bureau of land management land and foraged for food you'd still have to pay car insurance and maybe property property tax well you could you could do it the same way that you're doing in a different place just to be like you know i guess somebody's paying all of your stuff like some company or whatever

is like you have a car thing or you know you have a car allowance my mom definitely had that when she worked in the bahamas not for everything but a lot of things like that so you can come close to having zero expenses you know they give you like a per diem or whatever it's yeah it's interesting this person saying this is a thought experiment and then saying i've had this happen in real life twice like usually a thought experiment is so outlandish that it kind of is a flight of fancy rather than i miss being a baby well yeah that seems to be it we're about to get to some real cheap guys here oh hell yeah this thread so special agent 22 said uh if you were enough percent Native American and living on a reservation with one of the tribes

that don't levy property tax, if you belong to one of the tribes that have a casino and pay their tribe members, you could live 100% free with an income, but of course your income would be taxed. If you didn't want to pay anything, you would have to be 100% off grid as well as grow, forage, hunt for your own food and supply your own water. The best you can do in modern society is have investments that generate enough income to offset your cost of living. This is basically what we call retirement, and it is why retirement is a number and not an age. You can retire at any age if you have enough money coming in. So if you are enough percentage of Native American, you can retire at any age if you have enough money coming in so if you are enough percentage of native american you can pull this off yeah i mean i wonder if that's the case i mean

i wouldn't i wouldn't know maybe this person's done the research i guess there are situations as we've mentioned though i think where you can just be sponsored or whatever and have a company covering everything for you but like that's just kind of some like it's you're not really you're still paying for something someone else is just paying for it for you i guess okay then you're going is if that's then you can just get someone to do that for you like there's a sugar sugar daddies are are oh i would say that so so this guy's looking for a sugar daddy me too i mean so i mean that you can it definitely can still happen it just depends on what the parameters are that you're setting i'd like to be a sugar son okay okay that's not right they would pay me okay

do you want us to mark this part off So you can edit it out No we're leaving this in It's a call to action Here's another influence 7134 says It is theoretically possible Number one

They just outlined We just said it Obviously is This motherfucker like folding a napkin And like poking a pencil through it They just outlined two fucking... Yeah, well, we just said it obviously is. This motherfucker, like, folding a napkin and, like, poking a pencil through it to indicate that it is possible to get employed and have them cover your expenses. What are we fucking doing?

You guys didn't even think of the most obvious one, which I'm about to read now. There are lighthouse jobs and other such things. Lighthouse. Yeah, I've seen that movie, The Lighthouse. Yeah, they have it made up there, I remember's a kind of screwball comedy it's kind of fun it seems like fun it seems like there's camaraderie and stuff as well and yeah no expenses and j and j owing wow yes i think the military provides free housing ah people that work on certain types of ocean going vessels get room

and board as part of their pay yep absolutely okay i've heard of people that pay to live in homes until they're sold to keep the homes occupied and maintained that i've never heard of that well i i that is not that what i have heard of is i know in france that's not that they that there's like a program where younger people will pay the mortgages for older people and then take it over when they die oh that sounds nice but that's not the same thing you know that would be i wouldn't yeah i wouldn't enjoy the emotions that that would engender in me if i were it is a smart it is mortgage it is a smart thing like you know what i mean just for like society wise it makes sense you know what I mean? Just for society-wise, it makes sense.

You know what I mean? Absolutely. I don't need to be preying on Margaret's downfall. No, exactly. Or every now and then, somebody just kills somebody to get their house. Absolutely. It's got to be. I think you'll find you mean margerie.

Margerie. Here your husband passed you think you will follow him number two you think you will uh you say kill yourself if you are young and healthy and have good insurance you may be able to have your employer pay for your medical bills i'm not even really really sure. What the fuck does that mean? What do you mean? You can get medical through a company. Again, that's if you have a job. You have a job.

What are we doing? At that point, you'll be working. Here's another really good suggestion. There are jobs that will provide you with three square meals a day. You can also raise all your own food if you have somewhere to plant keep livestock etc hmm yeah true yeah you can live on a farm and you could definitely self-sustain food wise i mean it's difficult to do but it's not impossible plenty of people do it yeah commenting to someone on reddit who's looking for an infinite resources hack and telling them to go back to subsistence farming and like foraging for berries.

Like it's fucking the first five levels of an MMO. Yeah. You're thinking it might not, they might not be able to do that. I think, I think if you're looking at these guys and saying, I think you would take so well to the wilderness. Yeah.

You're going to have to try this stuff out. Well, here's somebody who's really, I think it has a problem with somebody maybe that they know uh senisa joy too says move in with your father let him pay all the bills because you can't hold down a job that seems to work for someone i know alternatively join the military oh alternatively join the military and go get killed asshole yeah i mean this is like this is really weird like i wonder is this like a tight-knit community kind of or a big huge

okay so this is just kind of strange maybe a joke maybe a joke possibly a joke it also doesn't seem like they're talking about someone who's in the community right it doesn't seem like they're talking about someone who's frugal they're just being like i know this fuck up that if he joined the military he's coming home with holes in his back he's a coward everyone in the military would hate him just like me oh this loser the way they said let him pay all the bills because you can't hold down a job that seems to work for someone i know yeah he's hinting at maybe the fact that somebody reading that comment and being like, well, so I did go to this thing called Mr. Money Mustache.

He is a website of an pseudonym of 48 year old Canadian, which I already knew as you know, from where I'm from. Let's give it up for both of you. Let's go Canada. Yep. Big time Canada. By the way, it is kind of of you let's go canada yep big time canada by the way it is kind of interesting brian's wearing the toronto blue jays hat i got the montreal expo's hat on that is kind of interesting pretty two canadian baseball teams yes uh thank you so he adni retired from his job as a software engineer in 2005 at age 30 by only spending a small percentage of his

annual salary and consistently investing the remainder primarily in stock market index funds. So the way that this thing works is that he is Mr. Money mustache and the people. the way that this thing works a key part of being mr money mustache is becoming mr money mustache if you're if you these people are people that have, I mean, a lot of people, well, Mr. Money mustache retired. And now he's like, be a badass and be frugal. This is where you, this is where I get lost in this thing though.

When you bring in these like fucking finance bro aspect of it. You know what I mean? Like I want frugality. I want real like cheapness like stealing like fucking shit like that like finding life hacks i don't like these guys who are like capitalizing in order to become like fucking rich guys well part of it though is being cheap and part of that is they call it badassity like you're fucking okay but this is a good find though for the episode because we can really hate these guys

yeah well done i mean these people are hitting like a million dollars in their bank account and like bragging about it on the board like it'll be like i hit 500 000 i hit a million and it's like i don't feel sorry for any of these people and they call all of the things they like so they'll say like for instance here's here's a. When given a paper napkin, I accept just one, I carry it home, store it, albeit damp and crumpled, and use it when required to wipe some dreadful filth before throwing it away, like something that's stuck on my shoe. So they would call that being badass by keeping old napkins sitting is getting around i feel like this is because i remember when i was younger i would hear about like uh warren buffett uh being like very frugal and and and i would hear about like the guy from ikea the guy who owned ikea he drove like a just a regular car or whatever yeah crazy and i think that some of these people like looked up to those people you know what i mean

like that was they kind of like hey this is the way to do it is like be really rich but also be frugal there's something that's like interesting they think it makes them interesting you know yeah i think to me as a loser yes if you have all that money that you could never possibly in your whole life spend you should just be oh think of the legos he could have yeah man oh i'm doing it he could have like three titanics joined together that would take up a whole room titanic centipede there's not a lego set he couldn't have you know yeah no Yeah, no, we can't. I thought surely you were going to say something else. But he really, all he's thinking about is the amount of Legos that a rich person could buy. Is there one in particular, Brian? I'm curious here. Is there any sets that you kind of have looked at where you're like, man, this one, in a perfect world, if I were Warren Buffett, I would have this?

this one in a perfect world you know if i were warren buffett i would have this i would get the titanic but also the adat the star wars adat thing yep i think that's like 800 that might be the 800 one there's one for 850 that i really want that i don't even like star wars that much i saw him for the first time like two years ago okay but i was not a great purchase then i was millennium falcon which is like 850 or something like that and the ad app because they're huge i want like a huge set but i i just and and you like yeah because your wife might at that point like you might have to actually have like talk with her or whatever right you probably wouldn't love it if i spent that much she would probably like want to have a conversation about it because it's like that's like we're talking to thousands of dollars here now that you're spending on toys or whatever i sent them to a concert last week so you could play with your

legos and watch wrestling come on man that man. That's nice. That's cool. Did you watch Raw or SmackDown? Collision. AEW Collision Saturday night. Is that like Saturday night heat? Well, it's like good wrestling instead of like heat. Well, yeah. It's like there's a lot of matches.

It's just like match after match after match. It's like WWE doesn't have enough matches, but AEW just has so many. It's just like match after match after match. It's like WWE doesn't have enough matches, but AEW just has so many. It's just match after match. And it's totally meaningless. It makes every match become meaningless. Okay, what this is telling me is that Chris has watched or listened to a new Cornette thing,

because this is not a Cornette opinion I've heard him articulate. So it is really unsettling to know that you're keeping up to date on the only thing i've listened to recently honestly was a little while ago and it was the clip of him talking about the dark side of the ring about bash at the beach yeah about the beach because obviously shit stain was on there and that's vince russo i don't like vince russo nobody does and but cornet hates him like cornet wants like he wants him like yeah he like hates his god toe he thinks he killed him he does i know it's wild the stuff that he says about him but yeah it was um it was kind of i did find myself listen i don't listen to cornet that

much just to pull it back i listened to a couple of clips um to make brian mad so i could pick up some of the stuff but then when i watched that bash at the beach and i saw bischoff and and um shit stain were on there i was like i gotta go find cornette talking about this on his podcast yeah so here's one ryan oh sorry before we before we move back onto the subject matter i just want to say brian i know someone who owns both the atat and the titanic lego sets uh he finished his um phd and he bought himself the titanic out celebration. And I just want you to know, it has completely ruined his apartment because it is so big that there is literally nowhere to display it or keep it. That was kind of the problem in the old apartment

because my wife, I had them all in the living room and I was building this city. And she was like... Wait a and she was like wait a second did you get a new apartment so you had a room for your leg no but I got a big room in my apartment so I can put my legos in there instead of well that's what I'm out of yeah kind of an expert judo guiding the fist back to your face there after deflecting it for a second. Billy Goat Johnson, his Mr. Money Mustache plan was not badass, but it's a small milestone where he has two years without health insurance. Saved around $7,200.

Anything can happen to me health insurance is not what it's not like you can't think of it as like a sunken cost yeah but it's one of those ones where you know when you need it well he says for me it makes sense but it isn't for everyone so yeah yeah well someone who's sick wouldn't want to use that advice no how about this one uh i think this is a good one here we rarely eat these mcdonald's sausage egg and cheese mcmuffins or any fast food we maybe eat these sandwiches a couple times per year because it's just plain bad for you plus we cook 95 of our food at home costing less and tasting better we don't buy these from

mcdonald's with the eggs in them we buy the same thing without the egg sausage with cheese and mcmuffin it costs a dollar nine for this compared to the same thing with the egg which costs three dollars and 49 cents each can you believe they charge two dollars and 50 cents for a single egg i have my no i can't you know you know i can't i have my boyfriend pick up five uh at a dollar nine two for him two for me and one for the dog while he was getting them while he was getting them frisbeeing what it leads to my fucking dog I know it's a dollar nine it's a good deal yeah while he was getting them I put some butter in the frying pan cracked

five whole eggs into the pan pop the yolks and cook them like a big pancake oh what so you're you do need the egg in there you're saying yeah this is a really smart life hack because it's combining the thing they said before about it being cheaper and better to cook at home but still spending money on the mcdonald's so you're just getting like i'm gonna need some carcinogens like i need some stuff to

get in me and mess me up real bad i mean how much could it cost i mean i bet it has to be cheaper right to have have five English muffins. I don't know. Maybe not with the sausage. Maybe not with the sausages or whatever. I don't know. It could be around the same. It could be around the same price.

But you'd think the one at home would be better. And if you're making stuff anyways, throw them in the old toaster. Get the sausage going in the pan. You're making eggs anyhow. Just make the whole thing yeah the interesting thing here for me is the um this is kind of similar to the kind of diet hacks you'd seen on bodybuilding forums where they've like mathed out the most protein you can get and it's like but going to mcdonald's and buying 15 patties and then just eating all of

the patties in a row and also they haven't mastered out particularly well like these are not these guys aren't it's like their first foray back with numbers since learning what two times two is well they're just like looking at the amount of like protein and fat and calories that they're getting and being like well it's a dollar and pound bargain well and the funny thing is he goes so it came to like six dollars instead of 1750 savings of like 11 and 50 cents okay i mean if i have 60 dollars in the bank saving 11 is like good yeah but if you have more than like 500 if you have savings just spend the 11 it's not gonna fucking kill you it's not gonna break anything you know yeah here's a guy um he goes uh i haven't had a cheese grater in decades oh ah yes the old cheese grater that's how they get you chris that's how they get you the cheese

grater because what'll happen what happens is you're grating your cheese up all of a sudden you forget you're holding money in your hand and then you're grading up the bills and then they're and then they're gone you can't even spend them i was once grading i i i must have left my body because i found myself holding a ten dollar bill suddenly it was a five dollar bill on account of the grater. Yeah, that's what happened to it, too. It was sort of a magic trick-like thing. Because I haven't had a cheese grater in decades. Or that scam they call a quote, laundry basket.

That's a story for another day. No, it's not! Don't worry about me! You go ahead and lead into the laundry basket story. I promise you it's not long enough i'm gonna need to cancel plans dude i mean i think he's just saying like but wait a second it does it does help me a lot i don't have the energy to get into the laundry basket if you live in a house

or an apartment i mean you need a laundry bath what do you put in are you putting it in a trash bag and carrying it i think he's just using a bag he's using a bag or maybe this is a single man he's just wearing he's just using his hands you know that's a miserable way to make your way around your apartment fucking bleeding socks on every corner that's like i i had a i have the fucking first laundry basket i bought with my wife that i've been with for 20 years like yeah they don't have built-in obsolescence he's like i gotta get new they always get you with the new laundry basket with all the bells and whistles this one doesn't even it doesn't even work this one anymore i won't even hold my clothes anymore

this one doesn't hold graphic t's they haven't patched that in yet that fucking sucks doesn't have the graphic t just holds polos and suits this guy's like i was at the restaurant supply store yesterday today and almost fell for it and bought a dollar for some great somebody just jumps out from behind the display like hey you look like a man who likes cheese he's got the greater it is that like no no no i will continue to buy the shredded cheese at the store for a mock-up sir yeah way to say that that's not it can't be what he's doing that comes in here he goes uh but the but it kicked in and saved me from this catastrophe i realized i was making my way to the checkout like a dope

that hello i still had kitchen knives that have worked perfectly fine for this for decades and in an emergency i can always just bite from the block take that cheese grater scammers what do you there's some some stuff you need the cheese grated cheese that's not grated cheese that's cheese i think that he doesn't have a variety of um dishes that he eats that would be my guess the guy who's uh talking about how it's a life hack to bite cheese straight from the block yeah i think he probably just has a couple of go-to dishes that he eats and none of them involve grated cheese so fair enough for him it is so funny hearing this guy talk about this as if he was like finding himself downtown walking towards a dealer like

you know crack money in his pocket and be like i can't my senses getting towards the checkout i threw the grater out of my out of my car like it was a snake rearing to bite you don't need this in your life man yeah you're you can bite the cheese dude and this that this next person goes out i don't know how quickly you finish the block of cheese you referred to maybe keep in mind that if you want to conserve it for any length of time the digestive enzymes you deposit on it when you bite off a piece of it as you said you could do will greatly accelerate its deterioration

after all that's what nature designed them to do so okay so he basically saying don't bite straight off of there my friend slice yourself off a piece because when you bite it the enzymes are going to create a situation where you have the cheese for a less amount of time that's that's this is good this is good advice oh yeah has given to them he did say in an emergency he'll bite it you know it was so it was only an emergency though i mean well maybe car crash just rip it off really bad car crash roll over car crash you just rip it off even if you don't have a knife or whatever handy you know what i mean just rip rip off a piece. Don't buy it.

You're getting your tacos and you want, you want grated cheese on it, but you don't have a great, or maybe you just chew it up a little bit and spit it right on the taco. Yeah. Brian, that is genuinely what I was picturing just then is this guy like being invited over for nachos at this guy's house.

He's just a hunk of cheddar. Would anybody like any cheese on their tacos? And then somebody says yes and he just bites it and starts like a bird. You don't need a grater. You all think you need a grater because that's what

capitalists have convinced you of. Just so you know, I know you're biting cheese straight off the hunk but that actually will make it harder to keep for a long time yeah it's not sticking around cunt i don't know what you think oh yeah oh he's from australia by the way he's from australia they say that word like yeah i'm sorry that's okay for me to say oh well in a nice way not and also i said it as my name like a hundred times yes uh in little house in the big woods pa made ma a grater from an old pie pan punched with nail holes if you can find an old pie pan on buy nothing it might be less well why don't you look for a grater on buy no oh my god chris chris that is the

smartest thing you've ever said i mean honestly what what do you what do you just it goes straight to it why are you rolling past all the greatest looking for your pie pan and then you have to nail holes in it returning to look for the nails and a hammer i wonder yeah if you don't have a hammer that's probably not the best you don't need you don't necessarily need a hammer to nail and nails by the way you can just get like a big rock what i found is if you have a hammer you can wander into the kitchen supply store and walk out with pretty much anything you want as long as you're brandishing well i won't i won't say what you're brandishing but the hammer and by the way you have it and also tom you could do the same thing with a big giant rock really frugal you started mugging people with a rock you found totally you're like i'm

not buying a hammer to go rob the fucking store i'm gonna go find a large rock it's actually more menacing because you seem like more unpredictable you know oh you're that guy is gonna hit you for sure he's holding a rock it seems like a caveman you can get though i'll i'll tell you all this you can get 500 pie pans for 158 bucks okay so 500 cheese graters okay but hang on so now now are you selling now are you now are you trying to but you have to you have to make these and i don't think there's a lot of people interested in buying them i have an idea i have an idea so you you you get toothpicks when you go out to eat once a year you take a few of the toothpicks then you don't need

the hammer or the nail and then if you do get a pie pan off of buy nothing yeah you use the toothpicks to pose through that's free like like little tiny little wooden toothpicks you think they're gonna go through a metal i guess metal though and pie pans are thin you know my only my only problem with this is it does involve going out to eat so maybe if there's a way to get the toothpicks for free maybe are we dine and dash thing on this because yeah like i i'd be i'd be down to go eat as long as we're doing a diet and dash here's here's an interesting one uh i have a wells fargo credit card I'm not using. Wells Fargo has low balance forgiveness up to $1.99. At the end of the month, if you owe $1.99 or less, they just write off the balance.

100 gigabytes of storage on one drive costs $1.99. Wells Fargo is paying me to back up my music. Oh, wow. Okay, listen. Hey. I really like that one. I really that i really like that one's actually really cool like listen i understand it's like a cheap little thing but it's just like that one is kind of cool he's got wells fargo this big giant corporation paying this thing on a little loophole

this guy's gone loophole mode yeah yeah i can't have a credit card i already have like four credit cards and i can't stop spending money on them like and i keep saying i'm not gonna yeah that's not you shouldn't do yeah that's not generally i mean i'm not your financial advisor or whatever but i would say yeah but again we started off the episode with you saying you're a cheap guy and i just wanted to well the credit card's cheap because you don't really have to pay it back. I'm paying them back lately, but for years I would just get them and not pay it. Yeah, it's essentially free money. I'm paying them back lately.

Yeah, I mean, definitely when I was younger, I guess I pulled that a couple of times. No, that's not true. I think I always ended up paying them off in the end. But yeah, I guess, I don't know. You're right. I don't know. At the time, I thought it was the right thing to do you're right like i don't know at the time i thought it was the right thing to do i was like oh i guess i owe this money i guess i i used it

but they did i should have just paid back the original amount that i used without without any interest that that's what i should have done what you should have done is tell told the bank i don't want to do that i don't want to pay you back the normal amount either but i'll do that but i don't think i won't pay tickets because i don't like i don't i don't drive i don't have my driver's license anymore and that's the only thing that they can ding you on really is they can like you know with these tickets so if i get like i got a ticket once for going on the sky train without my ticket or whatever and i'll just never pay it and i'll never think of it ever again you're parking on the dance floor right sorry you're supposed to dance so the accusation here chris if i'm passing this right is that you go sorry brian is saying that i go to go to a dance you go to a dance floor and instead of dancing

you stand your park i park on the dance floor now brian would you do you think you would be dancing a lot i of course have a character on my channel that exclusively dances and also i do not turn this back on brian this is not an accusation we want to deal with the accusation of you no listen i absolutely would not be parking on the dance floor i would be dancing on the dance floor because i'm well aware of what's supposed to happen on the dance floor brian on the other hand i would wonder what he would be doing on that dance floor i really honestly i wonder if he would be behaving himself at all because i've seen him going to what he calls quote regular

clubs and and all of a sudden he's saying where's the playroom and everyone's saying no no no no no no well i can get a top i can just lay a top down on the floor we can kind of diy this no most of them have the kind of furniture that you can just hose off as long as you don't let your you know keep your stilettos off the furniture in the playroom and on the furniture in the playroom. Don't stand on the furniture in your stilettos in the playrooms. It is a big problem. There are holes in the furniture. Brian looks so nice in his stilettos. I think everyone should be able to look at him.

That is a big problem, Tom. We've learned that. At these sex clubs, that's a big problem. People standing on the furniture with their stilettos and putting holes in the furniture. I'm not joking. Furniture is expensive. I've heard that it's very expensive and if i would be a good i'd kind of i'd kind of make it so you weren't allowed to sort of stand on the furniture i might i might i might ban stilettos yeah i think a good solution here might be to just put like a cattle

grid in between the entrance and the playroom so you can wear them to be seen. But then if you try and go to get your shit pushed in or whatever you do in there with your stilettos on, you are going head over heels. Like it's catching you. That is interesting you say that because we did learn recently that if you're going to go into the playroom, you should come in like either naked or like in your underwear because it makes everybody else more comfortable hey you want to get in because if you just come in and they're having sex and they're naked and you come in fully clothed it has like a creepy vibe to it but if you come in fully naked dick in hand fucking full full pulling on it just coming kind of then that makes him feel more at ease but i don't i don't like that because my i rely a lot on my i'm with stupid t-shirt to start

conversations and make friends so that is non-negotiable for me yeah i'm walking around the people if you're really frugal you're not going to the sex club because it is we've looked you know that you can just. No. Yeah. You can just fuck dogs. You find in the street at home or wherever. Yeah.

You're not going to a sex club. That is a waste of money for sure. Yeah. If you're a dude, you're looking at $90 to get into it on a special night. You know, the thing I found about the frugal guys, because I've looked at these, the early retirement people are fascinating to me because the thing i found about the uh the frugal guys because i've looked at these um the early retirement people are fascinating to me because the thing that it it seems to me like they're just sprinting towards a five out of ten existence right like they hate work i get that i fucking hate work too it's great to not work but they're not looking forward to

anything except doing nothing as far as i can tell like i can't tell what's good about the way they're living or hoping to live yeah because i was looking at this guy it's the worst kind of rich guy like you said yeah i'm looking at this guy he goes every time i drive to work i turn off my engine at least a half mile down the street from the parking lot the perks of no power steering and it's like so if you're like that interested in making like nothing is ever going to be fun what are you ever going to fucking do they spend all day on these buy nothing websites so then you're you're you're looking for free stuff but nobody just gives good stuff away for free nothing i've never gotten anything good for free i don't think or i have because people mail me stuff but you know right yeah once you're like a beloved you can get stuff for free because people will give you things but these guys are

like looking for garbage well it's this guy right here i don't understand why washing and reusing ziploc bags is widely considered such a crazy frugal thing to do it pays me more than my full-time job freezer bags at my local grocery store cost four dollars for a 20 pack that's 20 cents each it takes me about 10 seconds per bag to wash rinse and put it away so washing freezer bags makes me 72 an hour oh i see what he's doing like so it's not actually like if you break it down it's making him more of an hourly wage he's not actually earning more money doing it the penny saved is a penny earned i know but he's not able to save that many pennies to you know to compare

to his actual weekly wage i mean yeah and and there is a little part of the these guys that i like that that like ecology wise like yes you seem to be knocking down waste i think the issue that i have with things like reusing napkins and washing out or washing out ziploc bags is that these things aren't made for that so like i don't know if why running hot water into a sandwich bag is actually safe to then eat out of it again you don't know if there's like an actual safe way to wash them at all yeah i don't think there is i think that you're i mean you know we're all eating handfuls of microplastics anyway it's not like yeah this sort of thing where like uh it's not like the sort of thing where you can get away from eating plastic but i do think rinsing

out ziploc bags and sandwich bags probably increases that chance i also read a lot of people talking about like eating food after the expiration date and acting like people who follow the expiration date are the fucking stupid rubes for not eating the food after the expiration date isn't there some true to that isn't there like not rubes but isn't there like some true to the fact on certain foods that the expiration date is like something they have to put on there as per like regulations but you are actually stupid to throw it out if it's like a week after or like two weeks after yeah like milk milk is a big one milk doesn't go off for like two three months i found milk and then when a milk that's not three five Five months cream can't go off.

It can't go bad because it already did. So it's not true. That's right. Yeah. You can eat it forever. Sour hamburger is always good. Eating a big hamburger. Hamburger depends on if it's,

if it's been left out, non-refrigerated, I think it's only good for like a month or a month and a half. But if it's refrigerated, you can have it a year later this is my grazing hamburger i leave it on my desk it's it's marina it's like i'm kind of dry aging it in the air next to my computer it's getting really nice so on our frugal there was a uh there's about a post a day like this so this is just an example one one thing before we move on i just want to say the annoying thing about that ziploc bag thing is there are solutions that aren't the ziploc bag

so just buy a container right like that's the yeah insane thing to me it's just like okay so buy a fucking thing that actually serves its purpose and is reusable yeah it's like it's like a slight more outlay but you're not like coating your insides with whatever is made of that fucking intentionally disposable thing. It almost seems like they're just doing it just to be cheap. Just to like, hey, we found another frugal thing to do. You know?

And that's my cheap... I think my cheapness might even... That might be where I'm... Because I know there are different kinds of cheap people. There's one guy like me. No, you're not cheap. Come on. He's trying to like weirdly like now he's trying to come back to like and so anyways we all agree that i am kind of cheap you know like we're coming

out of the end of the episode so in summation i would say i'm kind of a cheap guy well i agree that you're like bad with money you know i'm very bad with money though okay yeah the cheap when i say like a cheap like i like i'm cheap it might be that like it took me several years to truly understand that like well you just pay a lot up front and then you have the thing longer. So I would often go to the store and like, you know, buy the cheapest thing and then run out and then go back and buy another one and then run out and then go back and buy another one. Like,

so that, so that like upfront, if this thing is less than, I remember I used to always say, I don't buy anything from the grocery store. That's more than $2.99. With inflation, it's probably $5.99 or something like that now with Joe Biden

and stuff. It was like I just had this amount of money that I wouldn't spend more. I'd go buy cereal, but I would buy the really small, thin box of cereal instead of the big one because that box of cereal was at that moment yeah even though it was a better value to be buying the

bigger one you weren't doing the yeah the this is this amount per pound that maths wasn't entering into the equation the only math that was entering into the equation is what's coming out of my bank account yeah i think i do, I think I do that. I think I do that a little bit when I'm grocery shopping, definitely. I'm guilty of that every now and then. Now, with the grocery prices where I am, it's just like I'm like, yeah, I'll get that smaller one now because then there's only 750 out of my account instead of 1250. Yeah. And that is really not cheap.

account instead of 12 50 yeah and that is really not cheap but that is a thing that in your mind that's the type of thing that like even in my mind was like well i'm being really cheap right now because i'm buying the actual cheaper thing yeah even though like i can eat a whole box of cereal in one sitting when it's those really thin guys you know like that's maybe another thing we want sorry what do you mean like it's like an individual box of cereal or the one the smallest box not that small small one that's one serving but the smallest box that's like you know for okay and he's making a pretty large size box can you maybe maybe gesture could you could you just roll back a little bit and just mime the and yeah because you're miming it on an angle too yeah oh it's a pretty big box yeah that's quite a lot of it seems like like it's not meant for a single serving right no but i can do it

wait no that brian that can't be true stop lying to impress me and chris yeah i don't know that you could do it man you know what there's no fucking way this guy we're gonna have to see it let's see it see you on the murder brian stream everybody where brian's gonna eat a whole box of cereal no in all seriousness well when this when this comes out i think yeah the sunday stream after this comes out i think we should we should look at you trying to nail down a whole box of cereal in front of you i i it's often i can do it i know if you do it often then what's the problem with doing it in front of these people who pay you know their hard-earned money you can which i doubt by the way yeah no exactly that's what i'm saying tom i'm like yeah like i'm totally calling it up here because he's definitely for a full

i'll eat a whole box of cereal on the street i've already showed people my turd yeah well i'll tell you cereal what we're gonna need is we're gonna is after you eat this little box of cereal, we're going to need another photo of this turd. The cereal turd? Sitting Brian down with two gallons of oats is the equivalent of planting the bomb from Counter-Strike

in his bathroom. I hope the convention center has got something fucking in count. The convention center is going to close, dude. I haven't been using the convention center's uh you know got got something fucking convention the convention center is going to close dude i haven't been using the convention center the past like week or two you've been going to a grocery store no i've been going to my bathroom oh you you have been i'm back to normal man back to normal so you haven't you haven't even been clogging it yeah so like in a month or

or in like three or four, I go to Chicago at the end of this month for a wrestling show. I can guarantee when you come back. Yeah. Because you're going to eat all that deep dish. Yeah. Yeah. And yeah, a flight will make you poop crazy.

Also, I don't care if it's domestic or international. You get off a plane, you're pooping crazy. I'm driving there. Oh, I'm cheap in that way. I'll drive rather than fly. He'll drive to go to watch his 10th wrestling show of the year.

My fourth pay-per-view of the year. I'm going to wrestling on Wednesday, too. I'm going to Dynamite this Wednesday night. Oh, hell yeah. Weeks ago. I don't want to blow up his spot here by the way but colt cabana is like a real cheap guy he uh i was talking once

and he was yeah right just a very uh single-use cutlery guy all through his apartment yeah i've heard he's a super him and mick foley is also also another super cheap guy. So this seems to be the big problem in the frugal world. We'll get out of here when we finish this. And I just wanted to... This was something I wanted to read. This is a person asking for advice. This is tagged, advice needed. What is up with the price of chips and carbonated beverages

like 12 packs of soda and seltzer, United States? I never thought I'd see the day when a 12 sorry this motherfucker is gonna get drink water as an answer right like you know he's just like i can picture like the horns going behind him you know like he's giving this like i never thought i would see the day, see the day. Because I never thought I'd see the day when a 12-pack of Polar Seltzer or Coca-Cola would be $10. It seems like yesterday

I could get three 12-packs of 12-ounce soda regularly for $10. I don't eat chips every day, but I enjoy the occasional Lay's or Cool Ranch Doritos to get them for parties. Chips are pushing $6 for the party size. That was always the best value over smaller bags.

Oh, my God. I like to go to Aldi, but I don't always find better value. Their chips also just don't hit the same as doritos or cheetos or takes off somehow wait they have different chip brands aldi yeah aldi has like the weird brands that are like dorito or whatever like they'll have knockoff or like european versions of chip yeah dude it's so fucking sick the best audi thing they have is their energy drink is called gridlock, which is like the last thing you would think. I remember the last time I went to Aldi is like an appointment thing was because they had sledgehammers on special.

And I was like, well, buy a sledgehammer. And then I was like, I was like, I walked there and then I was like trying to get the bus home holding a sledgehammer. And I was like,

there's no non-threatening way to hold this dude. There's like, you've seen triple H walk to the ring holding one of these things you know he goes through every different way and me like a fucking big lummox getting on a bus holding that thing like by the head is like does he not want people to know he's got a sledgehammer that's worse my tom's very very big very tall so it would be intimidating with a sledgehammer. My wife shops at Aldi. She likes that Clancy's chips. She likes the brands in there.

Does she ever say, I love Aldi's brands? She's not a comedian. She wouldn't even think of that. Maybe fade out of that line because that'll kill. Tell her to switch to cashier. Open and close with that direction.

Maybe toss your boy Chris a bone on that one though and let her know who wrote it. You know what I mean? We don't have all these. We don't have them at all in Canada, so I've never been to one in my life. We got to get you over here to go to an Aldi where the cashiers sit in a chair and throw your food in a cart and you have to bag it yourself but he

goes uh is this it no more affordable soda or chips wait you know i just thought of something that's kind of funny when they're throwing it in there be like wait a second i gotta i gotta bag all these groceries wow that is awesome call back closer right i just i was calling back to an earlier joke that i had done i don't know if you remember the i love all the yeah it was an earlier one so he goes is this it no more affordable soda or chips it's not the end of the world or anyone wanting to improve their health but it's sad to see that the option is gone i can't justify ten dollars for 12 cans of soda so uh this seems like a good thing though you know after pricing you out of like the bad

foods like i i don't know yeah that that seems like kind of a blessing in disguise for you you're not this is like when people are complaining about the price of cigarettes over here like we're pricing cigarettes crazy taxing them like nuts and people like yeah these are so expensive it's like yeah they kind of shouldn't be like an unaffordable bad thing yeah they've gotten out of control here like 20 something dollars a pack in here yeah they're like 22 a pack in bc and which is absolutely outrageous but here's a here's a hack this is a frugality hack this is perfect for the episode so my brother lives in like a rural area of british columbia and there's this guy a friend of his who's literally he lives on a boat yard and he fixes boats and he's building a big giant wooden sailboat to live on but he he taught me he no he's getting two of

every animal as well no no he's not a religious guy this one ends with a wet tom i don't like this at all he's very cool he's very cool he's a very very cool guy he's like you know he builds like actual boats like he makes me and brian on the ark as well he bends the wood and everything like that but anyways this is his big thing if you they they tax tobacco when it's ground up like smoking tobacco but you can just buy tobacco leaf and you can order tobacco leaf so he orders it enough to like smoke like a pack a day for two months it will cost him 25 dollars and he just grinds it up himself and rolls it. So if you're a real frugal person and you still want to smoke those cigarettes by whole tobacco leaf dried and then grind it up and smoke them.

My wife just texted me by the way, Chris and said, uh, we do not like Clancy's chips. Oh, my daughter did. And my wife said, I like their popcorn.

So, okay. Heard me heard me um but yeah you can buy big bags of already ground tobacco here for like 10 20 bucks or something to roll your own cigarettes yeah maybe maybe this is this is so much cheaper than that though and maybe it's a specific thing because we have such crazy taxes here so it's to avoid that tax that i don't think again this is like again this is like yeah if you want you can have your job be a guy who makes cigarettes. Yeah. This guy says I had to pass on getting a bag of chips because it was priced so ridiculously high.

The store did have a buy four discount of nearly 50%, but my friends didn't want to go in. Oh, fuck. That sucks, man. When you're like, yo, we can get the chip discount. And your mates are like, nah, sorry, we're not feeling chips tonight. want to go in oh fuck that sucks man when you're like yo we can get the chip discount and your mates are like nah sorry we're not feeling chips tonight it's like but we get well we need to all get it to get maybe you'll maybe you'll feel chips like in the next month or so you're not you're not you're not have to open them you can keep them put them in the fridge they'll be good

for a year maybe maybe you could give me the chips even and when we come over we can all have chips so this person says it's like we're being taxed for eating junk food soon junk food is only only going to be go to the rich who can afford it while poor that's the opposite i don't think you have to worry about that man that's the least of your worries the opposite of the truth well don't worry about being able to afford fresh vegetables easily as a poor person. You're getting it all wrong. He says, while poor people who have been priced into healthier lifestyles will desire the flattery. Wait, no, no, no, no.

That's not how you're being misunderstood. That's the opposite. You don't get priced into a healthier lifestyle. Don't worry. That's the best thing. Like, holy fuck, man. God damn it. Doctor just told me I'm going to live 20 more years because of this fucking healthy shit I'm forced to eat.

I just got told because I don't earn six figures. My heart's better than it's ever been. Damn, this life expectancy keeps getting longer and longer. And here I am only able to afford like the 75 legos oh you've got diabetes the rich person's disease he says uh while poor people who have been priced into healthier lifestyles will desire the fatter rich due to their junk food affordability um might be a joke again i don't know that may be like a play on the no i think people used to be fat because he also didn't want his friends he also had the part about his friends

not going in on the uh yeah my friends wouldn't buy chips with me well this person chips this person said i only eat them if it's free somewhere like a worker work event or something so chips that's fair that's a fair policy on chips like hey i'm not gonna buy chips this crap but hey if i chips are put in front of me i'm out somewhere then i'll have them that's i i respect that well yeah i'll eat whatever if it's free yeah i get flavored seltzer for three dollars and 49 cents a six pack the cranberry clementine is the best at trader jo Joe. Rumor is it polar brand. I also get the low sodium kettle chips.

I think $2.99. So yummy. And the last one here. What the fuck was that person contributing to anything? That person was just like, oh, I've bought these things before. Let me hop on in here. Today I bought an apple and I ate it all up.

And it only cost me a dollar. And then I had a little bag of chips. And I wore that with my money for my job. Okay. What? I don't get a dollar in an apple. You have real money. You know, you get some burritos.

Yeah. If you're too poor poor you have to eat an apple oh man revving my porsche's engine loud outside the tenement housing as i eat my big bag of family family-sized burritos the jealousy of everyone just warming me yeah so that is the frugal guys there was one, but I think this guy's less frugal and more a different thing. He goes, girl on a date called me cheap. And I totally agreed. We were talking about who should pay on dates.

And of course, she said she expects the man to pay for everything. I asked her what she has to offer for a man to pay for everything. And she tried to dodge the question. She says, you don't deserve to find out yet. And she says, I seem cheap. I said, yes, I am. I only pay for my mom, dad, and brother. Why would I pay for somebody I don't know?

Okay. So change the topic. Don't you like how he throws it? So when is the wedding i think yeah that she was like uncomfortable by him probably and trying to like give him sort of vibes of like i'm not interested and he wasn't really picking it up yeah this guy's a dumbass but he also a full 50 of the uh replies where guys saying like if you ask her she's a feminist she says she's a feminist then why not ask her yeah i think that uh the woman should uh not pay

on account of she is like taking a huge risk by trusting you with her location for an hour that is that is definitely an argument to be made for it listen i i'm all for it you know the idea of splitting stuff but also yeah there's an argument that could be made for it listen i i'm all for it you know the idea of splitting stuff but also yeah there's an argument that could be made for there is it is a more dangerous situation historically and statistically speaking for women and maybe they should get a dinner out of it for putting hazard pay dude like it's the least you can do that's a real unfortunate reality of the world i didn't pay for like my first like 10 dates with my wife. She paid, but that's because I didn't have a job.

I was kind of a sleazy scumbag sitting around a house, and she would just drop off 12 Hot Pockets and 12 Mountain Dews for me every two or three days, and that's kind of what I lived off of. But then – Excuse me. Oh, my goodness. have you seen a photo of brian when he was younger oh i think i have i think i've seen the hat photo but he's summoned those numbers yeah when you when you see a photo of it all kind of comes into like at first when

i would hear him tell the stories but then you see the photo it all kind of comes into focus you're like oh he was that you know, he was that guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we started dating and I was like living in an apartment, but I didn't have a job. And she was just like, you know what? I'll take care of you. And she would bring me like as like a suitcase type thing of hot pockets on Monday. And then I would have those for dinner every day.

And then in the morning for breakfast, I would get up for dinner every day. And then the, in the morning for breakfast, I would get up, I was living in this apartment complex. I'd get up and go to the rental office and they had cookies that they sold or that they gave to potential new residents. And I would go over there and have cookies for breakfast. And then, so where would you did i have a question for you did you ever eat vegetables i barely eat them genuinely like oh man it sucks that oh that's so good brian i think i think vegetables now i'm kidding i i don't need enough vegetables myself no i don't eat as many as I should. But, yeah, I mean, I just love.

There was a guy who used to sleep on, like, my friend's couch, you know, where we would all hang out. And the thing that would always strike, because he just lived on the couch, you know, and so he didn't have, like, a place or, like, a fridge or whatever. He had, like, a. And I always thought he never got to have milk. No. You know what I mean? Like, he can have other stuff, like a and and how's that he never got to have milk no you know what i mean like he can have other stuff like pop and beer and stuff you get chips and things like that but you would never get to have like normal stuff like milk and that sort of reminds me of that like

brian you know you're just like living this life where you just you just didn't have those normal foods you didn't living in the moment yeah That's true. He's living for now. Check out food banks, everybody. They're fucking sick. I got a bunch of friends that run one in Sydney. Great way to get food if you happen to be down on your luck. No judgment. They don't ask questions.

I'm rich. Yeah, you're right. I'm sorry. I don't have any money to go to the bank. Going to the food bank and they ask for a deposit before you take anything out and go to the counter and ask for like some doritos and they're like no those are too expensive no way buddy all right well that is cheap guys next week is bowling bowl hellling. Oh, hell yeah. I don't know. Like bowling guys, not professional bowlers, but rather just people who are non-professionals,

but they're really into it. My dad's big time bowler. He's bowled like three 300s. Wow. That's almost 900. Yes, that is actually true. Ariel bowls every at her job. she bowls every week.

She's a pretty good bowler, I think, herself. I'm not bad either. I'd like to go bowling someday. We could go, Brian. When you come to Vancouver, we could go bowling. Are there bowling alleys there? Yeah, yeah. We just got them a couple years ago, yeah.

Before then, they were just throwing the bowls hither and thither with no real rhyme or reason to it. Yeah, we had bowling were just throwing the balls hither and thither with no real rhyme or reason to it yeah we had bowling just not the alleys before well we weren't aiming at nothing but we'd throw that ball we have the balls we have the pins you know we just didn't have the alleys for years we were just biting at them couldn't figure them out so expensive bowling yeah problem with bowling that's not frugal tom yeah what people where to find you uh check out the podcast big soft t.png that i do with my fiancee it's all one word and then uh check me out i stream on twitch over twitch.tv slash tom

walker there's those are the main things right now and then i do comedy pretty much a bunch of places you'll see those but just follow my bullshit and you'll you'll stay updated if you wanna he's in canada yeah he's in canada doing the just for laughs comedy festival he's a great stand-up comedian as well yeah definitely check out the podcast in the stream and demi i think we i think demi was even in the background for one second i think she grabbed something from behind she did wander in yeah that was very well yeah we're gonna have demi on as well a future episode of guys for sure yeah and and you know uh that is the show chris see you later the fuck do you want go to patreon.com slash x brian for guys plus and a picture of one of my turds oh the turd is so good you gotta see it gang, you gotta see it.

It's worth signing up just for that. I told everyone in the Discord, delete that. We need that turd behind a paywall. Yep. Goodbye, everybody. Bye.