Guys: With Bryan Quinby - Guys: Episode 30 - Bowling Guys with Patrick Monahan

Episode Date: September 5, 2023

Alright all of you open bowlers, we are here to teach you about some real sportsmen. That's right, Bowlers. They are certainely the most angry guys I have found. We looked into what it takes to be good at the psychological side of bowling. We did a thought experiment about going bowling with your new girlfriend. We also looped in soem yelp guys and read a few bowling alley reviews. If you stick around after the yelp reviews we teach you how to bowl a 300 Patrick is twitter.com/pattymo and you can listen to What a Time To Be Alive and you can get their patreon at patreon.com/whatatimepod For More Chris go to https://www.patreon.com/notevenashow and Not Even a Show you can also find him on twitter at twitter.com/thecjs For More Guys go to Patreon.com/murderxbryan for Guys+ and check me and Chris out on Sunday Nights on twitch.tv/murderxbryan and I am MurderXBryan on pretty much all of the apps

Welcome to Guys, a podcast about guys. I am Brian. With me is my co-host, Mr. Open Bowling, Chris James. What is it? So this is, yeah, so he's learned something about bowling, and he's now using that information to insult me in a covert way because he knows I don't understand what that means. It's sort of a theme that he's's been that he's introduced that i he knows

i don't like i think he's kind of getting back at me for some of the wrestling stuff maybe you're an open bowler is what what does that mean could you want to tell everyone well let's introduce the guest here we also have from the what a time to be alive podcast patrick monaghan what's up patty hello uh I guess I should say that I'm a closed bowler No, you're an open bowler too I'm the only one here that's not Okay, I see, alright Now let me get you to the open bowler

So everybody understands what it is now It's the people that aren't in a league That then go bowling And ruin it for all the people in the league So just normal people Right Is that what you're saying? You're referring to basically the entire population

Minus a couple thousand people It's a couple A couple thousand Yeah The bowling alley Would definitely not stay open If open bowlers were not going in there, I feel like. I wonder what it's like, because definitely the leagues, I mean, they would tell you that, and I'm sure they, but I wonder what they're like, you know, do they even buy any drinks?

Like, how are they as far as comparatively to the open bowlers and how much of the business is the leagues? It would be interesting to talk to a bowling alley and get that information i think there is a new sort of thing that's going on right is that so this company which is hated by the bowler by the way the bowling guy hates us it's called bolero and uh it is a big chain bowling thing that seems to be taking over a lot of places. And instead of calling it a bowling alley, they call it an entertainment center. And they do not like that because that means that it doesn't. So I'm I'm stupid here, but I just want to clarify when you say Bowler, you know, what was the name of it?

Bolero. I assumed it was B-O-L-E-R-O. I assumed it was B-O-W-L. You said it's not a bowling alley? It's not like a chain of bowling alleys? Or is it? Well, they've taken over a lot of the old AMF bowling alleys around the country. But they themselves are a bowling company.

Okay. But they're trying. You know how? Have you ever heard of top golf yes yeah i've heard of it you guys have an america i don't think we have it in canada so i've never it's pretty i will i will cop to saying it's pretty sick it's pretty fun it's like it's it's because it's just like it's hitting a driver which is all most people want to do when they play golf nobody wants to hit the in-between shots or putt and uh and then you just get drunk while you do it so you know that's yeah that's compelling that does i'll say stefan he passed guess stefan heck he whenever he's in america he always wants to go to talk golf he's always

talking about it like but i yeah i've never i listen i've played a bit of golf in my day i think i would enjoy it what's the when you're just like you get a room and you get one of those screen things where you can just one of your clubs chris where you get a room no you finally got one on me congratulations congratulations brian brian finally got me with a sex guy allegation well done um but yeah it is is it that type of a situation where you have like an individual screen type no it's it's real golf it's like a driving range but but you have like a little area and you know you have like a like a server that comes and brings drinks and stuff and you you uh i don't know if there's what the competitive element is i don't remember it's been a long time since i went to one but uh but it's not it's like a full driving range or is it you're hanging into a wall it's just a driving it's like there's none really in

downtown areas it's all in the suburbs because they're fucking massive i see because we we have a lot of driving ranges but they're just kind of all owned by different people yeah yeah it's not it's not like yeah you don't have to like go get your own bucket of balls and you know yeah it's it's like there's music playing there's tvs oh there's music playing do they now there's tvs you mentioned there's tvs my question for you, do they have Chive TV on there? We're looking at one thing I'll say. Bowling alleys play Chive TV. Yeah.

I would imagine this podcast covers a lot of venues that feature Chive, like almost exclusively places that feature Chive TV. Yeah. I'm sure they play Chive TV,ris i i i would uh i would almost guarantee they do but it seems like the type of place is chive tv only fail comps or is there other stuff on chive tv i always just say it's snowboarding fails that's the thing that people have told me it's like a loop of fails a lot of fail a lot of fail videos yeah sometimes it'll be like trick shots and shit like that too you know what i mean like a bowling trick shot or a golf trick shot like that guy on tiktok who like pops the balloons and there's marbles in it or whatever like stuff

like that that would be on there yeah that would be on there that would be like their number one show because the chive has far less bowling content that you would ever believe because i was going to try and get us a little you know overlap situation but they didn't have much bowling stuff on there but uh so bolero is the entertainment there's league centers and there's entertainment centers now the entertainment centers are not pba recognized they're not recognized unsanctioned yeah they're not mentioned because they have like different lane lengths and they also they they're now doing this thing where they put strings on top of the ball well hang on hang on hang on not on top of the ball on the pin on the okay yeah i was gonna i was

gonna say that does not seem like that would work they put the strings on top of the pin so they reset themselves up rather than having that whole okay so so the pba requires you to have that machine that needs to get fixed every 45 seconds that's that's a that's an obligation it's one of them it is one of them they're fully captured by the lobby of repair 45 seconds that's that's a that's an obligation it's one of them it is one of them they're fully captured by the lobby of repairmen for that group that whatever the well that's been the problem right is that like not a lot of people know how they work now like so they're running out of mechanics there's like they're dying off and at some point they're all gonna die and somebody's gonna have to figure out something in order to keep bowling going on which i don't even know if i don't think bowling makes it through

my daughter's generation to tell you the truth you're saying that not a lot of kids are following in their parents footsteps repairing those things in bowling alleys but they're like you know come on son come down to you know it's like come I'm going to go to like the arcade part, play in the arcade maybe. Oh, they hate that. They hate that arcade. You know, it's just not like you want to go to a league place, but Boleros also have this other issue that they don't oil the lanes enough, which is incredibly important if you guys don't know that.

Why is that? What is that? Oh, that makes the, like what happens if you don't oil it i couldn't figure it out it just makes it harder you can't you can't get that you can't get that cool spin that got people who know how to bowl can get you know where the thing like curves before it hits the i understand okay i i was thinking maybe that the reason why you need to keep them like that is so if you if you hit like a crazy shot then you could slide down the yes you know you need to be able to slide down and if they don't do that then it's like you find i've seen those things where someone tries to slide in the

bowling alley and they kind of get stuck and it's really embarrassing very do you have to be very careful kind of walking back it's very it takes forever it's very yeah it's it's a long process totally bowling is going through kind of a thing right now a big a big uh a big i would say struggle session almost in a way and i i kind of looked at like my biggest bowling pet peeves on our bowling so that we could see kind of some of the stuff that's going on at the bowling alley that hurts bowling um seven sea cats said uh which by the way uh 600 handicap i think is what that they have their bowling scores under their names i don't think 600 what is a 600 handicap what could that possibly be 150 it says 155 254 600 so 155 is something 254 different types of bowling maybe because i'm not like 300 is the is the perfect game that's 250 maybe 254 is his best score that's the best the best yeah and then and then and then what's the third number the 600

is that the handicap but what would that what would that i don't have any i fuck wait we sound really stupid right now but yeah i don't i don't know what that would refer to how to keep score i did a gig at a bowling alley where we were supposed to bowl afterwards and it was a place where you had to use the pencil and like you had to write the score in the thing and i we had no idea how to do it we were just like fuck it i guess we'll just throw the ball for a couple of hours because it was like fucking impossible to figure out you know they don't teach that in school these days which i don't think i don't think it's necessarily impossible it's hard um if you had access i guess to google at the time well yeah we did have that but you could have maybe yeah just kind of taking a look at i'm sure there was even something you could put in there like bowling calculator you know what i mean and then you just

like press on the ones you could probably get an app for it or something this was way back in 2016 though so it was like oh there was a free app you would need the app to display like a cool cgi animation after something happens oh that's a huge part i hope we get into that yeah definitely let's see some pet peeves here seven sea cats is having to find your goddamn opponents every time every frame because they've gone off socializing in between shots yeah i hate when people like are having a good time and you're supposed to be bowling they're they're playing that claw machine that has like four things in it. You know, they can't stay away.

Totally in there. And it hasn't been refilled since the Clinton administration. I'm trying to bowl over here. I'm trying to do something serious. You know, you want that harmonica for, you know, come on. I am the fat man. 666 said, in my opinion, it's worse when you don't have to find them. They're just ignoring it.

Bitch, your phone ain't going nowhere. Throw your ball and let me finish so i can go home which really makes bowling seem like a job to me you know yeah so so what you're saying is you you've dragged your uninterested friend to come bowling and you're just like now you're getting all sour about it because they're on their phone and you're just like now you're getting all sour about it because they're on their phone and you're just like well fuck it let's just fucking leave anyways like that i'm sure that happens quite a bit i i i personally like bowling well how do you feel about you guys i mean what's your i get frustrated with it after like one game what what about you uh patty yeah i i i i would say i mean i go like maybe once every couple years and i usually have a good time you know it's it's yeah it's it's okay so you guys are you guys so you guys so you're bullshitting up from brian you are what they would call or whatever

you said in the beginning open bowler an open bowler and i tell you something now yeah i come from a family of uh my dad has bought a couple 300s has the ring and all that i think you get legacy credit yeah i mean i was born into it you know you think you get some residual credit for your dad's 300 yes okay his name is on the at the bowling alley over on the east side of columbus his name is there you get a ring they like make you a ring i assume you can buy it he's such a bitch that's so sick is it it's like a world like a super bowl ring or something but it's like i bowled class ring look to it it looks stupid and i'm like shut up man where's the green you got two of them by the way and the whole time we've been doing guys i don't think i've heard you use that

word you know and now you're influenced by the bowlers who the guy in the post used that word bitch oh bitch yeah honestly here's don ball says honestly bowling quote that team that never pays attention and slows the whole game down by never being ready and then gambit four six one five replies and goes uh in our league it's quote here for the beer and in fact they are so uh yeah it's and in fact the name is quite accurate yeah yeah you don't want to be the team everybody hates in the league That's no good Yeah I guess so but also you want to have fun It sounds like maybe the people posting

On the board About how shitty it is That people are drinking while they play They might be the team that everyone hates True You know what I mean We might be just getting I think there might be a lot of fun bowling people that just aren't posting on the fucking Reddit.

No, probably not. This guy says I was practicing once when the lane next to me became occupied by a group of teenagers who all had no concept of bowling etiquette. etiquette after me stopping my approach about three or four times and going back to start over due to them uh due to one of them grabbing a ball and bowling without consideration i finally addressed the group to explain the etiquette rules they went to the counter and got a new lane i guess they simply should not be next to a serious bowler okay Oh, this was... Okay, this is... I like this guy. This guy is good for the episode. Okay, so... He's very serious.

Yeah, very serious. And it's like just some normal teens. That's awesome. Because that's such a mature response, too. It's like, all right, we'll just get out of here. It's like, oh, I can't even get my head. We'll go ahead and just get out of your hair and then just find a different place

because you seem to be taking this a bit more seriously than us we're just having a good time and like the behavior that he described you were expecting it to be like they were like doing something but they were literally just bowling yeah like the wrong time he thought do you know what i mean like he was they weren't really acting inappropriately they were just bowling he just thought like oh you don't understand. You're not supposed to bowl when I'm about to bowl. So, like, he's really the bad guy in this by far. Well, Darwinia says, I had to use the bathroom once while I was practicing

and came back to all my balls being used by folks on the lanes around me. Then they complained to the counter I took my equipment back so okay so that sounds like there's more to the story that we're missing i don't i don't know that she's giving us this guy in the can wait wait wait what was the person's name darwinia oh i thought it was yeah darwinia sounds like a uh girls who knows who knows they will say is all said uh when they stand there for 10 seconds in shock and disgust after they get a split or don't get a strike in the pocket it happens dude please move it along everybody's in a fucking hurry is the thing that i've noticed yeah i guess you wanna maybe that is a thing if you are paying by the hour on the lane do you play do you do you pay

you pay for time right so maybe not a league no league yeah league is just you you bowl i would imagine you just bowl the the match or whatever the three games yeah in that case yeah you want to you probably want to save it you're you're of the house, you know, maybe at a stressful week and at work. And now you're finally done. You want to hang out and let loose. And why shouldn't you be able to do that? Well, this person says people who eat on the lane or go to the toilet in bowling shoes. That's so dangerous.

Dangerous? I don't know. I don't have an answer. Now, here we go. Now, this, what I'm about to read, you guys, is the biggest controversy in the world of bowling right now, and this is Pyromelter. Two-handed non-bowling,

because bowling has been done for over 5,000 years one-handed. Other sports include bowling, which are also done one-handed only, bocce, lawn bowling, and cricket. And it's not so much a pet peeve, but rather an inevitability allowing two-handed bowling will eventually degrade the entire sport into a meaningless blob of no actual rules. You can take a shot putter and tell them to throw a 16 pound ball 59 feet right in the pocket and that is legal so it isn't the two-handed bowling alone that bothers me rather it's the entire lack of definition of what the game is and two-handed bowling being the most visible symptom of that sickness so uh they a lot of people aren't too happy that person sounds like a fucking loser

to me because that's just like it's not even an advantage to bowl two-handed i think it is actually somewhat i guess no it's only an advantage if you can't hold it well i'll say this because of the spin these guys think that spin you know the spin right we all know hey we all know the spin you know the spin it goes out and around and and they like that i don't get it i feel like if you throw the ball straight to the right place all the pins will fall down too but they like to do that thing where it goes close to the gutter and comes in and it's known as a spin yeah yeah and it's well it's actually called something else but i would have to look that up it's like

revolutions they call it reds so um but they want they they think that it's easier to spin it with two hands is the thing and then this guy butter yo biscuits that uh but are people doing that like the people i see using two hands are not spinning it like you're you're so you're saying there's people who are using two hands to cheat in bowling there is a pro bowler yeah it uses two hands right so there's this is like the guy who broke jeopardy like it's it's one it's one of these things okay that that is because every person i've ever seen used two hands is like a young child or like somebody who like physically can't do it with one hand. Grandma style or something. Yeah.

It's known as grandma style. It's if grandma comes. It's not grandma style. It's not between the legs, though. They kind of. Oh, I see. They take it from the side and they spin it like that. I can see what you're talking about now.

OK. OK. Different thing than what I'm picturing i'm picturing little old granny come on do you mind if i play with you boys you know that's what i'm picturing and she's so sweet you know well this guy says i recently found out my dad hates this style to a point he thinks it should be a usbc rule to use two fingers and a thumb wanted to see if we could get a level-headed discussion going today about your opinions on let's keep it level-headed because last time i brought this up it got to you know a lot of insults quite quickly a lot of people pm'ing each other photos of the

other person's house you know that kind of thing a lot of stuff a lot of people PMing each other photos of the other person's house. You know, a lot of stuff, a lot of really threatening stuff pretty quickly. So let's keep it level headed here. But should we kill the people who use two hands? He goes, a fit chemist says they're fun and they're helping to keep the sport alive as all the boomers take their leave, meaning that they die.

So young people take their leave, meaning that they die. So young people are – Take their leave. Yes. Very lyrical way of – okay, sure. Yeah, and he goes, they can make fun of me for not having a high rev rate, and I'll make fun of them for giving up on one-handed because they couldn't hook a ball in their first two weeks of trying because they cared more about moving a ball sideways eight inches than the 60 feet that actually matter so this guy actually doesn't

seem like he's okay with it they'll make fun of me for uh not having enough revs i'll make fun of them for being dead when they're dead main boston says i hate it it's improper form children bowl with two hands not adults i think it should be banned for leagues and a guy uh replies and goes found the boomer and then okay so so okay so so so there's this this is like some younger generation person who's saying like yo the younger generation uses two hands okay i'm sorry i'm starting the future i'm stuck in the past i guess yeah you're one-handed pass for sure but this guy does have a good point and he's kind of like me in a in a way why does he go to does he frequent um no he frequent bowling alley no uh he goes look i grew up in a bowling

house my dad so did you so did you. So did you, Brian? I bowled like eight times growing up. But it was your dad. Like if he was bowling 300, was he like into it? Was he in leagues and stuff? Yeah, he leagued two nights a week. He would do a league. That's so cool. That's like Roseanne.

You know what I mean? It's like the show Roseanne to me. He even has all the stuff, too. You know, he's got the wrist thing and all that towel of course of course if he's pulling 300 game he's not fucking around more than one rather well this guy says my dad bowled on tour first league when i was about six and had an instructor seeing adults bowling two-handed just totally bugs me because of how much emphasis was placed on proper form i'm never never going to be okay with it.

So you're not changing, not changing that person's mind. So don't even bother move on to the next person, have the debate, but that person is always going to hate you for bowling two handed. Well guys, I got something for you. Okay. Etiquette question actually.

And it's an interesting thought experiment that i think you guys are both going to be very into i love thought experiments yeah so uh he goes you're going bowling for a work event with your girlfriend do you bring your arsenal i have whoa like my like a gun i'm not what do i need my gun for my weapons three to five balls is an arsenal oh i see different things are you hang on are you allowed to use different i thought you could only use one ball in like a can you use can you just bring out a different ball like you're golfing like like oh yeah i need in a league you can do that you can bring yeah you can change ball i didn't know you could do that okay these motherfuckers are coming in with uh is that like multiple trips to the car then like i like to

bring them in like that just seems like they're heavy they seem heavy right it would be hard to bring them all in at once that hold three balls okay so you just bring in your arsenal in the three bring it you come in with a three bagger and you've got your like heavy ball your mid ball and your light ball for different situations is that all spare ball urethane setting aside like the the bringing in the the balls like if you're if you see like your co-worker and her boyfriend is like pulling on the glove you're just gonna be like okay we're in for something here i don't know oh yeah i mean it's are you mark oh you're the guy she talks to all day oh why don't we go against each other yeah i need to clarify is it is it her work event or so it's not his work event correct well this

seems very straightforward that yeah no you should not show up and completely humiliate your significant other and become the focal point of this event that has nothing to do with you i have a fairly new girlfriend one month and i've been invited to one this person might be might be doing a joke like this is so absurd that it might even just be a joke it feels like i don't think this is a joke i have yet even just be a joke, it feels like. I don't think this is a joke. I have yet to meet her boss or a number of her coworkers and will be largely a social event. Are you bringing your arsenal or do you just go bowl casually with a house ball?

Do you just bring one ball carrier in your shoes? Don't want to come off super obnoxious or ultra competitive, but bowling with my own balls is way more fun and satisfying so if you bring any item like anything over one thing means you have all the things yeah totally like you just have to show up like every other person is a civilian you gotta rent the shoes you gotta rent everything the house balls you gotta and in fact you gotta play dumb you're gonna say oh what's that you know you gotta say oh what's this a 16 pounder what does that mean you know what i mean you gotta be saying shit like that well your mom on your mom on a bun 420 did say i'd likely just bring my spare ball except mine may not work be work appropriate weed leaf and shoot okay so now imagine he's rolling up with a fucking weed

leaf ball so now it's like oh sweet so this is your partner the stoner bowler very cool my spare ball too and i'm not gonna bring my strike ball because i don't make everybody kind of feel now okay so spare spare ball is for spares it's not like your spare one that you don't use regularly do you know what i mean because that is quite confusing it is it is for spares i i read enough bowling stuff today to find out that your arsenal does include a spare ball for spares okay um this person says uh and shoes oh here's the answer for you right here chris uh and shoes lanes probably will be burnt since most alleys only oil prior to league so my strike balls balls won't be in play anyway so you don't want to use the strike balls

because there's not gonna be yeah yeah you would never use your strike balls unless you had a good amount of oil on there we all know that obviously you definitely want to go and complain about uh the like what how frequently it's been yeah you want to show up and sort of make a very loud point in front of everybody that uh this place huh these are not regulation as far as these are dry as hell i love the i love the idea of like you go up there your first roll and you know you don't get a strike and you're like all right whatever you know and then your second roll you're like don't get a strike and you're like uh there ain't oil in these yeah that's the other thing that's the other thing if you bring your own stuff and you're not incredible

like you have an off night that is not good like every scenario is terrible because yeah if you just come like clean uh every it's like like you said patty you Patty, you cannot bring one single thing that indicates that you are a bowling enthusiast. I don't think. It's such a silly, like it's definitely a silly thing to be like, that it's like weird to be good at it. You know what I mean? Like it's kind of, it's not really reasonable, but it's such a infrequent thing for most people to do that. Like you just kind of read so much else into the person you know what i mean like my like my dad always tells a story when he

was like dating my mom he went out with his best friend and his girlfriend or wife i don't know i don't know what their story was at the time but um and my dad like was not like somebody who bowled a lot but he just had a pretty good night and his friend was really competitive and it like blew up the whole night because he kept beating him and they were like, what do you come here and practice before this? if you're if you're doing well there's like a whole secret life that you have that now i'm imagining where you're like you know sneaking in time constantly to you know or you have a whole other group of friends your bowling crew you know it's such a weird kind of thing because we do like immediately stereotype people who bowl more than three times a year like we're immediately like oh i know this guy yeah i i wonder if that comes from like with the way they're portrayed you know maybe in but but i i also yeah i also think that like if that guy shows up and say he should be able to just be good and bring his ball and proud of it.

Like, you should be able to be proud of it. That's the way it should work. If it was a golf outing, you could definitely bring your own clubs. That would not be weird at all. He should. That's his thing. Think about it. This is his moment in the sun, man. Like, he never gets a chance to impress it.

But the reality of it is, like, it's just, yeah, you can't make yourself the focal point like that at your girlfriend's event. Well, this guy says, it's always yeah you can't make yourself the focal point like that on at your girlfriend's event well this guy says it's always weird to me that bowling is one of the only sports slash hobbies that we feel public shame for actually being good at yeah i'm sure this comes up a lot on the forum i cannot imagine that this is not discussed constantly this like yeah why are we on here why are we pushed into the shadows you know for the thing that we love? We need to step up and be like all kinds of people are coming out in the open these days, and we shall not be in the bowling closet. Yeah.

I would ask your girlfriend. It's her work, friends, colleagues, bosses, event, et cetera, and make sure you're not putting her in a situation she may not enjoy. Even if the logic, maybe she would be embarrassed if you brought your stuff yeah i this is a very reasonable advice from what sounds like a reasonable person because or if you suck who knows i do whatever she felt most comfortable with her party her people her rules they've been dating a month does she even know that he's a big bowling guy it's conceivable that she doesn't even know. A month is a short amount of time.

So, yeah, but I mean, hey. It's personal to her. Like, if he said, should I bring my arsenal? I think that would be like, they're probably broke up already, actually, to tell you. He went with it. I think he went with the bringing the arsenal, probably. He did a lot of, like guns that be like after his after his strikes he was like doing guns at people like that's how we do it baby like doing a lot of that and it was over you know a couple days later yeah

like the guy says my biggest fear with bringing my own equipment to events like this is appearing like a decent bowler and then sucking anyways if you go and suck with a house ball no one bats an eye if you bring your own bag balls and shoes and suck because the lanes are bone dry after 10 birthday parties we all know the only reason that that i ever have a bad time out there is when they don't got enough oil on their baby i need them greasy i need those lanes greasy baby grease those lanes up waddle doodle yes another consider this is zappa cake says uh which a zappa guy and a bowler that's something another consideration is since you're dating their co-worker there might be a feeling of familiarity and some may ask to try your ball if you're not comfortable with that then you're in an awkward position i'd bring a ball but i don't mind getting damaged if you yeah you bring five balls three to five balls and then you say no no one can use any of them like that gets into that's such a

mushrooming conversation about like why can't i use why do you have all these here anyway it's like okay okay well there's this bear ball you need different balls for different things but i'm not gonna get it into you're not gonna you're not gonna understand the bottom line is to get your fucking greasy fucking hands off of my ball that's the bottom line how hard is it to damage a bowling ball really like how easy really easy it's pretty easy to damage something with a bowling yes yes but i don't think some guy that you that my girlfriend works at works with is like can i use your bowling ball and then he damages it i mean it's not gonna crack in half but but i would imagine to these

people like a little chip is a disaster is like how would that i guess drop it from uh they could potentially i have no idea you, it's a bad form. It seems very strong. You bring it down to bowl and you kind of whack it on the lane. You know what I mean? You kind of bring it down a little hard maybe. You know, that's enough to, who knows. Luckily, somebody actually did come up with a way to fix that problem.

And he said, I'm sorry, it won't fit your hand. It's custom fitted. So, yes. But then this guy this is the last guy on this subject he goes i bring my shoes and three ball bag this way i can teach people about bowling because i get asked a lot of questions at social events some of them want to bowl in league and feel like they're not good enough be an ambassador of the sport oh so go out there like uh jehovah's witness and bowling and just be like bothering

like hey did you know that like hey you're pretty good there did you know that if you both you know like start like trying to get them in like i'm just trying to like none of them are interested at all can you imagine like what it must be like to be that person where you're just so comfortable with who you are that like that's your reaction you're just such a genuine person who is not constantly tormented with all these meta thoughts about everything right it's like yeah you know i'll answer some questions like that that is like the most fulfilled person i can imagine that's yeah but can you imagine having them around nobody would like it and not like even normal people

wouldn't like it i don't think it's like some weird way to feel like it would be annoying to have the person around. You're right. But it would be, by the way, you could never, um, yeah, you would,

you would never be able to, to stop me from, um, bringing your arsenal. I mean, I like, honestly, if I was,

yeah, if I was showing up in an event, the arsenal would be coming the full arsenal a hundred percent and nobody would be putting their fingers in it. But you would also like never be able to stop me from using your ball. If I was there, like, if you tried to stop me from using your ball, like try to say like, Oh, it's custom, custom fit. Like try to like, Hey, can I use your ball?

Patty, Patty, can I, Patty, can I use your ball? No, it's a, it's molded to my fingers only and let me try it let me give it a shot same i mean that's just me like no matter what yeah no let me give it a shot let me try it's like uh it's like blade sword it's got like a little cigar cutter thing that will yeah it sounds cool man yeah i'll just try it i'll just i'll just give it a shot i'll just try it well this level ice 1414 uh he posted today and he said impromptu psychological practice my fiance and i have been bowling for a long time but we've recently made a conscious effort to practice more and improve we will record each other on some shots. We talk about adjustments that we should make. We weren't expecting to have to practice blocking out

the idiots next to us tonight, but it ended up being a great exercise for us. I'm happy to see people come to bowl and support alleys that rely on casual bowlers to pack the lanes on the weekends. It was something else entirely to hear them mock us for recording our form discuss adjustment oh no again again totally reasonable to record yourself bowling and like you understand you want to get better and it's like anything else like i've definitely done it with other things you know where you record you know I played Sport record yourself I don't I didn't do it that much in stand-up

But you definitely do it in stand-up yeah And but again I think if I Saw someone doing it at the bowling alley I wouldn't mock them Openly but it would Inside I would be laughing You wouldn't you wouldn't mock them To them you would just do it to your friends Out of your laughing you know you wouldn't you know you wouldn't mock

them to them you would just do it to your friends out of your shot just what you worry about you know generally when you're in public definitely inside my head be like look at these two fucking you know like i would i would say i'm sorry i know that makes me mad or like mean or whatever but yeah that that would be my reaction probably i was at a wrestling show last night and there were these guys behind me who were yelling jokes which i hate i can't oh that's the worst guy at the show at the wrestling show i would be doing a lot of good i would but i would like if i did it is it is annoying but if i did it it's like it would be very funny and i would be able to get some really good ones so i think it would be a little bit different probably and uh i didn't look back at them once i didn't want to look back at them and then like have them catch me looking back and

then knowing that i'm annoyed with them you know and i didn't want to be like come on man this is professional wrestling we need to take well i mean it's aew shut up no no honestly though the thing is i was what like why didn't you turn around you probably had a lot of time to turn around where i was i didn't turn around though and then as we know i mean there was like probably a lot of moments where it was just like oh this shit again you could have just easily turned around so as we're walking out i look at the guys on the way out i didn't turn around and look at them while i was sitting here but on the way out and then we got outside my wife was like shit i meant to look at those guys to see what they look like yeah that's a good thing to do

so we could goof on them and yeah i forgot to but i saw them i knew what they looked like i mean they look like what you think they look like right i mean i'm picturing them i know what they look like maybe there was one maybe there was one really tall skinny guy, but the other guys look exactly like what I'm thinking they look like. It sounds to me like, were they smarks? They look like Kevin Owens. Yeah, somewhat smarks. The smark was really in front of me.

This was really great. I have to say this. There was a smark in front of me, and this woman came with her boyfriend, and he was kind of just watching the wrestling, and the smark next to her was explaining everything about wrestling to her. Like, properly? Like, explain, like, going back to, like, Bruno San Martino and, you know, Lou Fez and people like that, Territory Days?

What are we talking? No, he was just explaining like Rob Van Dam. Like this is what Rob Van Dam does. And he's been around forever, you know, and I've been watching what I do. Are you allowed to do that in the inside the stadium? So what Rob Van Dam does, that's a marijuana reference inside. That's a little inside baseball for only real big wrestling heads. So what I end up doing is when they

are showing the chicago dates come up on the screen when it says all out i'm like i'll be there and then he had to know that i was more of a wrestling alpha than he was actually so that was very nice for me um so anyway i'm happy to see So he goes, what was the main event? It was Shida versus Anna J in a title match. They just shut up. He's just doing that because it's women. He can't. No, that's not true.

I love that. I'm just doing it because it's AEW. I love the WWE women's division. I think they got some of the best talent i was gonna say chris chris is a big nwa guy he loves billy corgan i'll watch nwa definitely nwa is better than you know watching pockets and you know the crew lionheart orico and all his friends fucking prance around the ring doing bullshit. Yes.

I'm happy to see people come to bowl and support alleys that rely on casual bowlers to pack the lanes on the weekends. So, okay, I read that back. He goes, before we even finished our first game, after much deliberation about their poor scores, they decided amongst themselves that they weren't on a, quote, good lane. So they asked to move one down they proceeded to cheer emphatically when any member of their group broke 100 the highest score i saw by at least 25 pins among the six of them was 148 from the only person who seemed like they had ever bowled before it was so laughable on our end that it actually became

a fun exercise and blocking out external stimuli wait wait are these the people who are recording themselves yes so they're just like they they basically were getting made fun of and this is like a post of them saying like but we these guys like getting them back like sort of their insults back yeah i mean it sounds to me like they didn't really care about their scores that much i believe you are like sort of projecting out onto them your feelings about bowling scores yeah they're not worried about breaking 148 if you if you had asked that group on in the parking lot on the way to their car hey what was the highest score do you guys bold they would not remember they would say they would say either 69 or 420 yeah and and then there's other couples

in there like you see that motherfucker he bowled a fucking 72 like he said come on you know i i love that he says it was so laughable on our end it became a fun exercise in blocking out external stimuli we weren't even mad we were like literally laughing the two tensest people in the world and no set the phone back up set the phone back up set it up yeah this is tight out and we're getting better at we're gonna watch we're gonna watch this we're gonna that's the thing about the stand-up thing like i the video i only ever did if i wanted to actually have a video i would never voluntarily watch myself as a way of trying to improve but i did record the audio of a lot of my stuff and like i never listened to it once like the only it would be like once every once every like six months if i was trying

to remember the actual exact words i said because i liked something that i said you know or whatever other than that though like you i feel like you feel like a sociopath listening to your own headphones and people do that definitely and uh if you don't mind brian patty and i might just talk a little bit about stand-up now i uh i used to be i did stand up too i used to be a stand-up comedian patty i don't know if you realize that i never talk about it on the podcast really so i don't even think realize that but yeah i found i never really recorded my sets either you know it's i don't like listening to myself but people who did it i think definitely had there's a benefit from it if you like people do it yeah yeah i agree

but but it's funny when somebody records is recording themselves like video because they're like trying to work on their craft and they just eat shit though that's good that's i like that yeah definitely probably not gonna watch that one well you know i like what i did up there the crowd wasn't into it but i like the you know i worked on my act outs and I, you know, that's how I want to do it. So it's good to have that practice. There was like this one line that I had, it's like,

you know, the set didn't go great, but there was like this one line that I said to like the fucking server or something like that. I forget about the food being too hot or whatever. He goes, I want more people to support bowling and ensure that our favorite places can keep the doors open.

But damn, it's frustrating trying to practice with a bunch of nitwits surrounding you, talking shit about you for taking it seriously. It was Sunday. This guy is so furious. It was Sunday night, probably not the best time for practice, but I wasn't expecting

to have to work on my mental game as much. Is Sunday night a big bowling night casual people go out that's the night that's the big night for all the fucking the real annoying casual bowlers that that is like this this guy this person is rattled from this like like real this really affected them like i didn't expect that to work on my mental game so much. Like, this really has had an effect on their life. But we both bowled to our average and had fun,

but we really wanted to tell these people off at multiple points throughout the evening. I just needed a rant. Overall, I'm just thankful our local spot doesn't do cosmic bowl bullshit. And this occurrence is rare. Thank you for listening to me scream into the void. That's huge.

They definitely, the place where I used to bowl when I was younger, they did the cosmic bowling. I was not a fan of it, but not because I was too serious. I just didn't like the vibes of it. We would take mushrooms sometimes, I think, and just go there, you know, but we wouldn't you know sometimes on the lane we would take mushrooms sometimes i think and just go there you know but we wouldn't really be focused on the bowling we would just be kind of like whoa this is so this is so tripped man this is like such a trippy experience and then everybody like hey it's your turn to bowl and i'd probably be if there was real bowlers there that'd be that's a nightmare people you're bowling with on mushrooms uh bowling uh here's a little more psychological warfare ten pin style and he goes uh tonight my

team plays my brother's team in the league nearing the end with both teams putting in a fair shout for the top spot i like my brother's team and i try to be a fair sportsman all around and hope everyone does well, except my brother. He's not a sportsman, and if he loses, he goes into a temper tantrum saying he's the best. Does anyone have any psychological tips I can use to just put him off? I've tried being a fair sport, but I feel just subtle things to put him off only allows the sportsman- world of bowling will get only get better much appreciate it seems like okay so like hey my brother's sort of unwell and struggles

you know psychologically to deal with these types of situations so what i've decided to do is kind of try to fuck with them play mind games try to really rattle them up well we got some good hints here believe me here's felonies says some of the things i used to do is ask what foot they lead off on how many steps in their approach take tape to the ball return and accidentally put it in the wrong ball never actually doing it just to plant the seed of doubt lots of silly mind games to throw people off so okay one uh ask him if he breathes in or out when he releases the ball this sounds like a guy you could just say hey man you suck and then he would like just be a like he would just spiral off the iris axis for the remainder of the game here's another guy

goes move his bowling ball to the other side if it's on a side with too many on the rack so that is a thing that they've all said they hate reaching across to get their ball that is like somehow fucks with you i saw that a lot um if your alley plays music request them to put on some music he doesn't particularly like. Loud rock music would do that for me. If I'm in any establishment, they're playing loud rock music. I'm out of there. Put some ice in his water.

Oh, yeah, cold his water up. Yeah, delay the games by taking a long time before starting your approach. Celebrate excessively with your team after every mark your team makes. Be over the top nice to everyone on his team except him. Don't say much to him. And this isn't psychological, but put something sticky on the tip of his bowling shoelaces. So that was. Remind him of that time when you were kids,

when your mom walked in on him. You know, it's your brother. You could torture him with all kinds of stuff, I would imagine mom walked in on him uh you know just just it's your brother you could torture him with all kinds of stuff i would imagine right i mean you know hit him hit him with a bat right you know what i mean shoot him with the gun smash him up smash up his arms and legs put some tacks in the holes of the bowl you know the ball that would really fuck somebody up so i did take a look at amazon because i wanted to know what people think of the aj forest and lisa iannucci book bowling for dummies so oh boy yeah you guys will probably yeah this would be good for you guys to yeah airing gave it one star and he says a major concern

i do not own this book and i never i would buy it honestly this is not a review of the book since i haven't even looked at it but i will add this one thought namely anyone who's been involved in bowling and i have been for over 50 years should be taken aback when one of the sections of the book towards the end of the table of contents is labeled 10 ways to add 10 points or more to your score. Anyone who knows anything about bowling does not use the term points, but instead uses the term pins. If the authors can't get this one extremely basic concept correct why would you put your faith in anything else they would say right that's actually totally true it's you don't know the basic sort of aspects of the game then i'm not going to trust you on the intricacies of it very good advice from that reviewer okay uh here's glenn Glenn says he gave it four stars. He says good

bowling reference. I bought this as a straightforward bowling reference guide and it served its purpose. Some of its organization is a little fragmented for the way I would like to see the subject matter presented. I was put off by the fact that the about the author invites you to contact him with any questions, but he failed to respond to mine. There was an occasional typo, but nothing serious. Glenn's dumb ass. Also, Glenn's dumb ass.

Like, oh, I love this book. He's fucking showing up to his bowling night. Like, how many points did you guys get? Everyone's like, you dumb fuck, Glenn. You fucking fired. You're demoted you know he's losing pay at his job so he sent a letter to the author and he's basically saying like yo they didn't respond even though there was there was very few typos in this one

which what i don't think there is any occasion ever where I would contact the author, even if the author said, go ahead and contact me. I just don't think I would do that. Yeah. If like the author, like put something in the book that led me to believe that I was related to the author where like long lost that I might try to reach out or if they like, you know,

they've maybe had something that was owed to me perhaps, but yeah for sort of any kind of feedback or questions no yeah if the author was sending clearly coded messages to me and me alone i think i would probably which does happen does happen to me specifically very often more than you would think yeah more than you would think all the time basically all all the time. Very common. Very, very common. So I would never. I can't even imagine, especially a Four Dummies book, because I feel like those books are like, they sell a lot of those.

You know? So you can't expect the guy to get back and what kind of question was glenn asking now that's something i would like to uh know i wish he would have uh said that because yeah yeah we would love to see a copy of this i mean i'm sure you could probably contact the local police or whatever wherever they are and forget a car go ahead get a copy of that letter but well this guy gave it three stars and he said basic now remember this is bowling for dummies yeah it's supposed to be basic i think and he goes it was a bit more basic than i had hoped but solid if you've never ever stepped foot in a bowling alley before

foot in a bowling alley before so uh a little too basic a little bit basic so wanted a little bit more yeah i mean so it really but it's bowling for dummies it is it's supposed to be very basic it is so uh i told you i wanted to do some crossover stuff on this episode and chive did not have a lot of bowling stuff on it but one of our other favorite websites actually did have some bowling stuff of course yelp had bowling alley reviews so i took a look through some of the bowling alley reviews this one is in columbus ohio where's that where i'm hearing notifications are Are you hearing that? Yeah, and I believe it might be on the thing, on the final.

It'll go away now. It won't happen again. So here it goes. This is a review of AMF. It was kind of a flub. I'll give you that. You haven't done one. didn't do one like last week

at all i don't know why discord does that like i i gotta start turning it off all the time you know yeah discord can be kind of shitty it just kind of honestly truly i'm not fucking like it can just change its settings all of a sudden yeah so this is a review a two-star review of amf stardust lanes in grove city ohio um visited on a saturday night we thought it would be calm since my husband which by the way that's not when you want to go if you saturday night is gonna got me the busiest night of the week there i know we thought you know saturday nobody goes out on saturdays at all uh we thought it would be calm since my husband called earlier in the week and they told him it doesn't get busy until 8 30 or 9 we walked in at 6 20 and it felt like there were 400 kids birthday

parties going on oh man can you imagine these fucking kids trying to infesting my bowling alley the gall these people hate when children are at the bowling alley they really hate it like all the bad reviews have to do with well no all the bad reviews in vancouver have a whole other thing going on but because they say there's like a law there where a kid can't bowl unless it's parents there it's pretty rough uh we got a fucking we got some we got a fucked up sort of situation here i guess in some ways maybe i've never heard of that personally i feel like i bowled many times as a kid without my parent there that's probably some socialist stuff up there that you guys do yeah i'm trying to remember and you wouldn't you'd have no idea of course because establishing that you are not

canadian no i'm just telling you what i know of my experience of being in canada he's wearing a blue jays hat so i don't know i don't know what to think you know i am they sell those everywhere you know where the but i bought this in canada that's true because you visited i got you there though i did get you uh so it goes it felt like there were 400 kids birthday parties going on kids running everywhere and we hardly saw one empty lane in the place that was strike one now but a strike is good in bowling so you can't use it in that sense it's not a baseball diamond you can't say strike one if

it's confusing strike one so It's confusing. Strike one. So you're good. You're on your way to a turkey. People would love to have three strikes in bowling. Yeah, it's called a turkey. They then put us out of lane wedged between two birthday parties for five-year-olds. That's just what a group of four mid-30s people want to be stuck next to strike two so okay so you're really playing well there's so far the bowling alley is doing great

i can't believe they chose that's like do they think they realize like do they realize the irony of that or like the sort of that just doesn't that's too good there were no clean tables or really even chairs to sit at gross chicken fingers ketchup spilled pop everywhere so disgusting we needed a beer bad five dollar Michelob ultra bottles yikes strike three so okay so yeah you're so far you're turkey on your way to a perfect game as far as so this could be a perfect night um I mean five dollars for a beer sounds reasonable to me but I don't know what it's like where you guys are it was about five dollars for a beer i mean some places you might be able to get two or three it's not five dollars i i live in uh i live in a stupid place so it's a lot it's

usually more quite a bit more than that oh it's usually more than that here too vancouver is stupid like that as well but five dollars would be like that'd be a good price for a beer a michelob ultra i don't know i don't drink why are they drinking a michelob ultra anyway that's like the worst beer did i eat chicken fingers yeah i i don't i you know i'm thinking about bowling when i think bowling alley food i i think pizza only i don't remember anything other than pizza they got they got they got your sort of nachos your chicken fingers your hamburgers even maybe french fries yeah i'm just thinking like kids party when i was a kid it's like you just slap down a pizza like like a not good pizza well that yeah maybe that

that's a place that didn't have a kitchen so you're ordering a pizza at a birthday party you know what i mean like yeah the bowling alley they weren't making the pizza at the bowling alley maybe i don't know i mean i grew up in bowling alleys as my dad was a bowler and i that's where i first tried cheese fries so very everyone remembers where they were the first time they tried cheese fries it's like jfk's assassination but a happy memory the only i was on a bowling team growing up and it was me my brother my sister and then they just stuck this other guy with us and they were like what's your team name and i was fucking trying to think of badass team names you know i was like the terminators like stuff like that

you know like really badass i was like nine and the guy that would the other guy on the team made it ross and the quimby's his name was ross and then me and my brother and sister were like his backup band ross and the quimby's yeah that does sound like a really shitty band ross and the quimby's not great the only redeeming thing was that you pay per game not by the hour free games and shoe rental for me and my husband was 48 bucks probably won't be back so um so i got a big surprise for patty bolero and queens new york okay so that's like not that's not it's not the sort of same because New York is so big. Do you know what I mean?

It's not kind of like, Hey, this is in your plate. Well, everything is in New York. I, I had never heard of this, this like conglomerate or whatever you want to call it.

But there, there is one in time square. There's one in, there's one in Chelsea piers. Those are both in Manhattan. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe they, maybe they bought out. Like there was a place called lucky strike that I know there were a there's one in Chelsea piers. Those are both in Manhattan. Um, uh, yeah, yeah.

Maybe they, maybe they bought out. Like there was a place called lucky strike that I know there were a few of in New York and, maybe, maybe they bought them out or something. Maybe that's just cause I can't imagine there's that many big spaces that are bowling alleys.

Yeah, they do. They buy them out. So the place I used to go with my dad growing up, that Bolero bought it. And then they go in and they do some, you know, pretty shitty renovations. You know, they don't oil the lanes hardly at all. Some of them have the string pin thing, which is messing up the whole fucking game. Sometimes I go into one of these fucking Bolero joints and I say, I look at this thing.

I say, what is this? This is a Sahara desert up here. went to one of these fucking bolero joints and i say i look at this thing i say what is this a sahara desert up here it's so freaking dry and and not oiled up and not greasy the way i like it you know hobbledy gee yeah uh so uh jaheel uh gave it two stars and said i would give it a higher star rating but the staff and the mismanagement brought the rating down. I was very disappointed by it all. I'm glad that we reserved a lane for two and a half hours or who knows how long we would have been waiting around now. But just the fact that we were right by kids at a birthday party with inconsiderate guardians wasn't so great so we're in that kid's birthday party thing where apparently you're not supposed to do those at

bowling alleys the place where what is a really good place for a kid's birthday like if i had to pick a play now i never did that because i would, in my mind, it's like, it sounds like the most expensive thing you could possibly ever do. Because when you just go bowling, you know, you and your friends, you're like looking like the place in New York, the place that I saw in one of the places I saw in New York and I read a bad review said it was $200 all in on getting on the lane and bowling. all in on getting on the lane and bowling. And then they budgeted $100 more for drinks and stuff like that. They're like, it's a $300 night out. And I was like, that's not something I would ever feel comfortable doing,

no matter how much money I had. I just couldn't do it. The kids were running around like it was a playground. I mean, it's a bowling alley. It's not a library. It's not a serious place. It's a fucking fun place where people are having a good time. Oh, no.

That's not what it's for at all. It's to get in there, you fucking bowl, and you go home. You don't want to be waiting around all day and stuff like that you don't celebrate for too long no you don't take too long in between roles you know don't talk to the other people that you're bowling with ever you can't but what we want to like chat about like you catch up on stuff yeah do that you stay in your lane that's where that expression came from i'm sure it's not from anything else no i get it but i i mean i can still yell from my lane over to them or not yell but even just kind of say hey like how you doing like how's the kids or whatever like that

it's just kind of nice to do while you're socializing actually we're trying to you know minimize the non-bowling conversation actually okay because if you're talking chris if you're over there talking about your stand-up comedy career or setting up plans to go to the swingers club later on you're gonna like distract and it's gonna mean that you can't get up there and bowl when it's your turn because you just are you know pinching your peepee waiting to get out of there to do sex stuff well you of course of our and of course you don't have to be setting up anything because you have like a running like you know you just have an appointment at a sex club you're basically a vip member as far as i'm concerned

at some of the biggest sex clubs around in the country and i will i will get proof of it at some point and you know what i will get proof if i have to create it using artificial intelligence don't do that i could do it i could easily do it your voice is i could easily make a voice of you i could get your face saying stuff i could put you in a situation i could deep fake you onto someone's face that's in a sex club my i love sex clubs oh patty's in trouble my wife is now calling me a sex guy because i sent her a picture of a logo at a place around here that looks like a butt plug like exactly like a butt plug like anybody would look at this picture and they would say that's a fucking butt plug

but uh yeah i showed it to her and she's like that's a butt plug and then she started calling me a sex guy so that's fun that's like actually more fun to get called it by the people that know you best um and for so here he goes uh also the fact these kids would throw random gutter balls down our lane wasn't funny at all first i beg to differ i bet it was very funny for them i think it seemed very funny too at first it was cute but then it got downright annoying we spoke to the people helping out and the guardians, but they were of no help. Maybe next time there can be a way to separate kid parties to one side and non-kid parties on the other side. Actually, have management that care about their patrons.

There should be small print saying, make sure to watch your children so they are courteous to other guests instead of running around unsupervised well yeah if you put that on there then that that would fix it the kids themselves would be like oh oh oh my mistake ma'am you know and they they would get back to bowling and they would get focused yeah they would get focused they would start you know bowling with one hand better they better be bowling with one hand i don't care if they're five fucking years old they better be using one fucking hand otherwise they're cheaters if they're using urethane balls and if they then that sops up the oil so it's like kind of if somebody's going to use a urethane ball they should come and oil the lane they should oil it mid mid uh game yeah because you

don't want a dry lane it it causes all kinds of issues oh i know i know it's the it's the most sickening thing to me in the world the thought of a dry lane and also when they said five dollar michelob ultra i mean if you're buying pappy's going to cost you quite a bit more than that anyway. Patty, I have a question for you. Have you ever drank a Pappy before? I have. You've drank Pappy Van Winkle? No, Brian, don't act like that.

Don't act like that. Don't act like we've never been here before. Oh, yeah, we drink it all the time. What's it like to just try it once versus being someone who drinks it regularly i i i i'm not like some i don't i don't have it i wasn't at some exclusive thing and there was i was at a i was at a work thing years and years ago uh in scottsdale arizona and uh we were at a bar and the bar had pappy behind the bar it was like the weirdest thing and i was like is that is that really okay and we just ordered it it wasn't like crazy it was you know i don't know

it was like 20 bucks or something you know it was that was not nothing you know especially for that area but it was like i don't know how else to get this other than to spend like 400 i was like yeah i'm gonna have a few rounds of this why not it was you know it was very good it was buttery right it was smooth it was buttery yeah i i find it to be very very buttery very buttery and we like to get it you know most of the time i'll drink the 23 year but there's times where i'll just drink some old rip fan wiggle 10 year and i'll drink a rip van winkle 10 year and then i'll fucking spit it you know spit it out because it's not it hasn't been you know hasn't been aged long enough for me but i'll i'll use it for different stuff around you know i'll clean clean my uh clean my underarms with it and whatnot that's good our server was nowhere to be found until

it came to us going to her or giving us the bill. I did see her at the restroom gossiping and spending time with other servers. I know you have to do your business, but at least be courteous about it and return at a decent time instead of gossiping and dissing the job you are doing. Maybe a training should be done on what to do or not to do at this establishment so this person sounds awful classic yelp person just like hey this person like had to go to the washroom and they noticed them like saying something about like oh man there's never any fucking soap in here you know like no i don't think anyways okay maybe they were talking about the oil but anyways they're saying there's never any of this and they heard that one thing and they're just like this person's like fucking complaining about like just shut up working at the fun the

most fun place in the world the bowling alley yeah robert l interviewed grand view lanes in Robert L. reviewed Grandview Lanes in Vancouver, British Columbia. Oh, hang on a second. I have been there before. Well, he gave it one star. He said, service is terrible and rude. If you're going to work in a customer service position for minimum wage, get off your high horse and pop your head out of your ass. Wait, Robert.

Wait a second. You're recognizing that they're working for a low wage? That's part of your argument? Are you sure you wanted to include that part? You sure that wasn't part of a different thought that you had erased most of, and then you kind of left that part there? Robert's an asshole. We will get way more into Robert here.

Robert's a bad guy. Oh, God. Here we go. I made a booking with these dimwits for the group of little rugrats to bowl a game. And we had to change our booking last month. Wow. Ignorant person receiving my rebook messed up and didn't make the change in their book. Today, 17 unhappy little rugrats felt disappointed by the stupid error by

granville lane's part never again will we nor i be supporting this unorganized local organization this is not the first time we've mistakenly not penciled in our we we were mistakenly not penciled in our reservation book. Go bowl somewhere else. Well, first off, there's nowhere else to bowl in the area. I want to tell you that. There's not a lot of bowling alleys in Vancouver proper, and so there is really no alternatives. They really have the market cornered, so that's not going to work.

But this guy got too many kids. He's got 17 kids. That's too many kids. He's got 17 rugrats. That's too many kids to have in this day and age in vancouver i don't know how you'd possibly make that work it must be a rich man i hate that he called the kids rug rats oh yeah like rug rats what is like oh it sounds like you really care that they're sad or you're calling them little rug rats he's like oh here come the waterworks okay we can't go bowling yeah that's right because some fucking idiot like you know he's like talking like that around the kids oh

he's so mad and he's screaming and he's in the car sorry we can't do it last we can't do it because fucking clayton can't figure out how to write in a book. He's yelling out the fucking side of the thing. Here's our last one. Bolero in Mar Vista. This is in Los Angeles, another place I'm intimately familiar with. You've been here? So many times. I basically live there.

You keep saying that. Now, did you at a time sleep there? What are we talking about? In L.A.? Oh, this is a Los Angeles location. So now you're pretending to be a Los Angeles person. Now, of course, I grab my L.A. Dodgers hat. Well, I actually have been in L.A. recently after this episode drops.

I think around the episode time this I'll be actually I'm in L.A. I mean, I'm a legitimate L person in la actually only people that know la call it la by the way yeah that's like a that's like a local zone ryan calls it los angeles and he was calling it that for a long time before i actually told him and he's like that's a different place and i'm like no no that's the same place that's a short short he's like law well i for a while i thought that's what it was called but i figured it out pretty quickly and i will be there and i have been there and i've cemented myself and i will also be posting up a lot of photographs and sort of um you know from different hollywood monuments and la places just to showcase what a los angeles guy i am i'm standing next to spider

man on hollywood boulevard you know on the walk of fame you know that's yeah i can guarantee he's not going to go to arowan because he doesn't even know what it is oh i'll be there i'll be there i'll be there i'll be there i basically got a smoothie myself a twenty dollar that's the prison from face off right isn't that isn't that yeah i'll get a smoothie's the prison from face off right isn't that I'll get a smoothie from the prison from face off no it's it's not a prison it's a it's a grocery store that is very popular with some of the stars

what'd you what'd you I knew we all go there I'll go there on I won't ask to use the toilet because I bet it's out of service if you went there instead I'm not talking about that anymore i used the toilet at the hotel when i was there which is much easier ooh la la yeah well it's not a new la la situation at all when he's using a toilet i was at the convention my my daughter would took my walk with me today and i was like i gotta go to the convention center and she's like wait you got a shit she knew does she listen yeah i know i don't

know how she knows does she listen maybe is there a chance she has before but i do not think in this in this sort of area that i think it was way earlier well maybe maybe she popped back in no she she's fucking heard me her bedroom's right next to where i record i see you heard me talking about she somehow knew and she was like i'll just wait for you outside i was like man you're so nice um so here is our last review of bolero and marvista i've been here multiple times the manager is a disrespectful towards customers and i asked her if customers are always right and she nods her head no yeah no that's they aren't that's the correct response you can't go in there you can't expect somebody customers always you can't bring that out that's

really old that's really old that that idea is. That is an old antiquated idea of customer service where it sort of put way too much power in the hands of the customers. And some people really latched onto that and refused to let it go. But yeah, no, that's no, like it's all you have to do because she's like uh excuse me uh are the customer always right and she expected to say yes ma'am i'm sorry let's and then she just shook her head no and the lady was like oh what the fuck yeah that must have that must have short-circuited her yeah speak to your manager or wait him maybe i don't know is that we don't know what the posters we have no idea the posters gender right glover is sharing so i don't know there's no wait wait what what's the name pg lover is here so that's what it is i thought it was glover is sharing but i thought you were saying glover to share well it could have been but i thought you were saying glover to share well it could have been it's a ufc fighter actually he's a yankee from the yankees um so that's mark to share it i don't think he plays

anymore though maybe he still plays uh she literally kicked me out for ordering a drink and i'm 21 she took a personal grudge against me because i spend my money at this first of all this is not me fucking up but i know what she's trying to say he goes she took a personal grudge against me because i spend my money at this accomplishment so i think establishment might be wrong. But listen, I've been coming to this accomplishment. That's a tough one. You can't maintain your anger when you say like you just really going out. Let me air out of the balloon. They're entirely wrong word.

It really hits you. Auto correct would not ever. No, no, no, no, no, no. That's that's you thinking thinking making a mental error and putting the wrong word there uh in the heat of the moment to be just thinking about all of your success and it distracted you yeah yeah yeah to be honest corporate needs to fire her because she ruins everything about bowling especially it's the only bowling alley in los angeles i feel disrespected and unwelcome because i'm treated like less the manager has an issue and needs to find a new job because it's

obvious she doesn't want to work there i've had multiple co-workers so wait wait that's kind of just a cool detail at the end just to say i've had multiple co-workers like that's kind of just a cool detail at the end, just to say I've had multiple coworkers. That's kind of a cool thing to throw in. I've worked with a bunch of different people at various businesses. I've worked with the best. Just keep that in mind when you're reading my review that I'm not just some geek off the street. I have had many coworkers.

Did she say that this was the only bowling alley in Los Angeles? The manager was a she. Yeah, we don't know. had many co-workers did she did no did she say that this was the only bowling alley in los angeles where the the manager was a she i don't yeah we don't know or sorry did the poster say that this was the only bowling alley in los angeles that that seems questionable that seems like it because it's a it's known as a large city now you do you live there no you live in new york i live in new york yeah that's a big city as well, but Los Angeles is a big city. Brian, you're a big LA guy. I love it. How many bowling alleys have you

seen near LA? He's seen zero. He's not seen any. He wouldn't even know if there was one. Bowling alleys. Yeah, but not in Los Angeles bowling alleys. I go to Los Angeles. Let me tell you, if there wasn't a bowling alley

at his fucking resort, then he wasn't finding it. Whatever resort, whatever all-inclusive you were at. Not hedonism. Hedonism Los Angeles. Hedonism Hollywood. They can't even do...

That's the sick part about it, is they can't do it. They have to do it in Jamaica because it's so... They have to have different laws or whatever. I want to give you guys just a little bit of advice before we leave. It is... The question was asked by somebody. User

Blues and Baseball said, how do I bowl a perfect game? So, I thought you... Lo you loaded question that's a great question i would love to hear the answer uh no evitable inevitable 43 73 said understand how to read the lane transition and entry angle well but first off i want to say that that doesn't even matter if it's fucking dry i know know. Like, if it's not oiled up, then all of this goes to shit. You can't figure out any of this. Even your typical, quote, walled house shot breaks down through normal league play. Watch your angle and how you're carrying.

Is it 10 back? Are you tripping the 10 as the 6 comes off the sidewall? There are minute, minute moves that can be made to ensure better carry throughout your league set. There is also some luck, too, but pay attention as the ball comes off your hand and through the pin deck. I have bowled at many levels

and have multiple honor scores, but concentration matters. Stay in a, quote, zone for a set and see how you improve. Also, with ball technology being what it is, it's never, in my opinion, been easier to score. So there you guys all go. The new ball technology.

Make sure you get one of the new balls in your arsenal. And I think only a 300 if you follow all the stuff I just said. And you get one of those rings. You get one of the cool rings i i highly recommend that the listener uh do a google image search for 300 bowling ring oh are there good ones there's a lot of cool stuff out there my i can find out which one my dad has and and you go to these sites and you have to like type in your like usbc bowler ID. Like you can't just order it. Like they don't want people getting these things.

You know, you gotta, you gotta have a verified 300. I like, you know. These are beautiful. I got a bowl of 300. I'm glad you read that. You pawn one of these things and then you get caught stealing valor at the bowling alley. That should get you thrown in jail. I wonder which one my dad got because my dad really got one

but he said it was corny looking so uh he just he put them both in his like my my stepmom's jewelry box like he i never even saw him he didn't even want to show him to us but he definitely pulled two 300s which is weird well that is bowling next week. The patrons picked the episode. Kevin Smith, guys. That is people who are fans of Kevin Smith. Psychic damage episode. That's really that's a tough one. That's going to be tough.

That'll be fun. Yeah, we're doing that with Rob Wiseman. So that'll be I'm going to recommend. I know you're going gonna do some twitter searches i'm sure so uh i recommend um searching balloon knot in kevin smith's tweets and you'll get some good stuff in there so check that out i believe that i uh i think this is gonna be one of those episodes where like there's a lot of the audience that have been Kevin Smith guys. Would be my guess, I think. Because I know

I can tell you that I liked all the movies. I've seen every movie in the View Askew universe is what they call the Jay and Silent Bob universe. Even now? You've seen Clerks 3? Yes. And Jay and Silent Bob

rebooted? Yes yeah the day it was available to stream i watched both those movies i am i don't like them anymore but me and my wife kind of we've seen them all it's the same thing with the marvel movies and it's the same thing with sons of anarchy is the other one that was like it sucked but i've seen so many of them i can't just stop now and i don't i don't think the old kevin smith i think it became kind of its own thing but i i was i was a i was a kevin smith uh it was a point those are appointment watching for me up through i want to say jane saw bob strike back maybe that was probably the last one that i that i really uh but you know

that's a good time to get out though those those first few are good they're good you know they're they're they're entertaining movies hell yeah well patty is patty mo on twitter and tell people you know what a time to be alive is a podcast it's true it's uh the only podcast that counts down the things each week to make you say the thing. That's the title of the podcast. Yeah, Chris has been on the show. We'll have to get Brian on. We're so haphazard with booking guests that we just don't. And it's usually when somebody's out or something. So we're scrambling to find somebody. But we definitely, rest assured, your name comes up often and we just usually don't do it in enough time to do it in advance.

It's what a time to be alive. It uh so it's a it's yeah what a time to be alive it's a fun show it's me eli euden cat barbadoro uh and our producer shelby who uh tortures us with the soundboard we know shelby we had him on shocktober because he was oh yes an intern for ron and fed of course yes great we love shelby shelby's got the whole the whole shock jock side where he just like goes at it with like kumia on twitter uh which is like a whole thing where it's like look i don't want any trouble i don't want to be associated with anybody who's on the wrong side of that because i just don't want those i don't want those freaks so yeah yeah me too i don't i don't really like to stir it up with any of those fucking conservative kind of people.

Well, I think I do always have that night when Eric Nagel messaged me and said that he was listening to the Shocktober. I was like, fuck, that puts it firmly in Anthony's orbit. And then it made me nervous. Anthony is just. Yeah, but he's just like a pickled drunk, as we mentioned. All right. We'll see you guys next week with Kevin Smith guys and have a good night

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