Guys: With Bryan Quinby - Guys: Episode 37 - Rockabilly Guys with Brace Belden

Episode Date: October 24, 2023

Brace and Bryan are back together again This week is rockabilly, how do you transition to Rockabilly? What is the look about? What do you do when a bruiser shows up? These are all answered on the Rock...abilly Guys. Also, what is up with the Cherry Poppin' Daddies? Find more brace at https://www.patreon.com/TrueAnonPod and at https://twitter.com/TrueAnonPod Of Course you can find chris at https://www.patreon.com/notevenashow twitter.com/thecjs and of course on youtube.com/notevenashow

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to Guys, a podcast about guys. I am Brian, and with me is my co-host a real wet rag chris james i hate when the thing that i don't understand the new word you picked up is like so insulting sounding like i again that's obviously from rockabilly culture but it just makes me sound like a real piece of shit well it is you're a boring wet rag uh and with me is a guy that i love that i have i've done plenty of shows with the only other doors fan on the internet chantilly brace brace belden what's up brace oh let me let me hold on let me get into let me into the mode oh i'm a rock and billy daddy and i'm here with you. No, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Starting point is 00:01:06 I got it, I got it, I got it, I got it, I got it, I got it. Okay, okay. One more time, one more time. Okay. Hello, baby. Oh, I'm a, wait. Fuck. I'm a rockin' Billy Daddy and I'm here to say
Starting point is 00:01:20 I'm a rockin' Billy Daddy. Let's start the show today. yeah can i i don't know about like iambic pentameter or any of that but i if i could just speak in a rhyme like the only way i can express ideas now is through that form of of of lyricism and that verse structure oh well you i mean you are i'll say it helps people can't see, but you are dressed apart as well. You are, you know, you've got a real rockabilly look. You're probably the first guest that has showed up with some attire to match the, I appreciate that professionalism for real. Nobody does it like, I mean, Bryce is probably the first guest we've had that has been in contact with the people we're talking about, like, a lot.
Starting point is 00:02:12 You know what I mean? Listen, I've been at the car hops. I've been at the drive-ins. Okay. So these are all, this is, I'm taking, I don't know a lot about this whole stuff. There's a lot, it sounds like a lot of throwback stuff. Well, let me be clear here. Actually, I'm not Rockabilly.
Starting point is 00:02:32 No. And I have a lot to say about Rockabillies. But I've never been, you know, let me just say, if Rockabilly was a really long wallet chain, which I feel like there's a lot of wallet chains in the subjects you guys covered already that's like a through line of many subjects in this podcast but if rockabilly was a long wallet chain i'm just like compared to that i'm whatever a ridge wallet is oh god and i hate ridge wallets i've i've never i've never partook i have what well but you were around the like you were seeing a lot yeah and that seems like where a lot of these like they call it the punk guy uh retirement plan yeah that's what they call rockabilly so i imagine you've had to you've
Starting point is 00:03:19 been in contact with these guys to deal with my whole life i've seen them i've been i've listened it's like since i was a child i have seen guys in like kind of cabbie hats a corpulence uh torso uh that is sort of sheathed in a in a vest of either denim or leather with like, well, we can kind of get more into the details further on. This is starting to paint a picture for me. I appreciate this.
Starting point is 00:03:51 Cause I'm starting to understand this guy a little bit. Big stiff, dark blue jeans and like some chunky fucking boots and some, and maybe, maybe we're rocking with the wallet chain. We might have some fuzzy dice. It's, it's, it's to me, it's like a whole, there's a whole ecosystem of like,
Starting point is 00:04:10 it's the 50s by way of the 90s. Now, okay, that sounds, now it does, is this a comment? So for the question for both of you, that people are still, this isn't just old guys that are doing this, who are like, this isn't people who are actually around in that past they have passed they have
Starting point is 00:04:28 but they potentially maybe passed it on to their children or or if they picked it up on their own oh okay there's a little bit so my daughter sent me a picture she basically my daughter does for i'll tell brace my daughter does the research on Facebook, so I don't have to go on there. There you go. And the other day, she sends me a picture, and it just says, poor freaking kid. And it's from the Facebook group, Rockabilly
Starting point is 00:04:56 Worldwide. And the guy goes, my little Rockabilly teddy boy in the making. This kid at five knows more about original rock than 95% of the shit millennials out there out there these days and the kid has a pompadour i feel so incredibly bad for the yes pompadour is a haircut right that classic like sort of it's like like from greece from like the movie from greece yeah yeah classic sort of rockabilly 50s haircut where it's like slick back but tall guys like here's the thing
Starting point is 00:05:26 rockabilly is known quite fairly as being uh sort of the territory of the white man oh um but there's a few things that that eject a little soul into it and one of those is it's one of the few subcultures aside from of course the classic mohawk punk one of the few white subcultures where guys are trying to make their hair as tall as possible yes so like because black guys can have the afro or black people can have the afro but like if you're like a if you're like a half italian half irish guy from indianapolis who just you know you want to race in the slot cars and everything, you know, you're working,
Starting point is 00:06:05 you're a grease monkey or whatever their job, that's what their job is. Grease monkey. Um, you know, you need you to have your hair tall because you also need to show your fealty to the roots of rock and roll. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:17 Uh, cause you, you completely emulate the music that was like, at that point there was still a lot of black dudes playing rock and roll but you're also there's some racial subtext in the in the kind of they love elvis do they love elvis oh okay they love elvis okay like nobody's business do they love elvis they love elvis okay i have a thing from the rockabilly subreddit that i really liked i didn't know if i was gonna find something funny uh so but i did
Starting point is 00:06:52 and uh this is from our rockabilly and the question is how did you transition from normal to rockabilly oh that's a very cool question. Well, I spent three years on TNT. I mean, yeah. So like, yeah, I guess asking like, did you just go straight up? Just like, boom, you got into it. But that is, listen, we laugh at the question, but yeah, it's like, hey, I'm an adult. I want to get into rockability. You judge me all you want, but that's my decision I'm making.
Starting point is 00:07:21 How do I do it? Do I slowly sort of ease in, start picking up a few of the pieces of clothing or do I just get the whole outfit right away? And yeah, I would, I'd need to know how to start. I would. The person says a few months back, I decided to drastically change the way I dress and go from rockabilly every now and then to full out rockabilly style. As often as I can. There's been a few comments almost 100 positive but aside from wow when did you start doing this no one's really said anything so how did you transition to rockabilly fast slow was it always part of your life in some way or is it something you've discovered as you've gotten older so uh uh this guy's coming out to the people around him
Starting point is 00:08:05 as a rockabilly person and he's not getting he wants more people to be like outwardly excited about it like they're just saying like hey when did you start doing that like which is a normal human response to someone changing their style he wants people to be like this is fucking
Starting point is 00:08:20 epic this is awesome I want to get into like he wants people really excited for him which he's not kidding he's got the rock and dysphoria and the gender wonder blues it is funny to think of like like these are guys that on a hundred percent think that what they're doing makes them really hot. And it's like... Yeah, it's an aesthetic.
Starting point is 00:08:48 It's a huge aesthetic thing. So it's all about how you're presenting yourself out in public. And it is in a very classically big and aggressive... Yeah, like a peacocking kind of way. That makes total sense. Guys that work at bar... There's two jobs. I think me and Brayson talked work at bar there's two jobs i think me and brazen talked about this there's two jobs there's barbershop yep and there is guy that works on like
Starting point is 00:09:12 cars and motorcycles but doesn't work on like wouldn't ever work on like a prius they're they're working on like classic i see they're only working like 70s or like 80 or below like nothing a big wrench yeah that's so so to paint you a picture of the average rockabilly right we're gonna get a guy because i'm literally just picturing a rockabilly guy i know 45 years old a pompadour made up of some of the thinnest hair that you could possibly ever assemble on the top of the motherfucking dome little little side but little bolt lightning bolts of sideburn not actually in the lighting but you know a little jut yeah yeah yeah we're talking probably maybe it may be a plain white tee maybe a plain white tee but realistically
Starting point is 00:09:58 probably a somewhat faded demented argo t-shirt. Possibly rolled up sleeves. Rolled the sleeves. Roll up. Oh, baby. Possibly the sleeves rolled up. If he's really going for the vintage look, he's got a packet of Marlboro Reds. Yeah, he's got the smokes. Rocking in there. Yeah. He has got a variable
Starting point is 00:10:20 pornographic magazine's worth of naked women tattooed on his arms. This is blowing my mind right now. And I'm going to tell you why it's blowing my mind so much when you're finished. I'll wait till the end, but please. Down to the crotchal area. We are observing now a belt buckle.
Starting point is 00:10:41 Doesn't really matter what it is. Probably an Eagle, possibly though, although this might've gone out of style post Charlottesville, an Iron Cross. But not in the most ignorant of history. Like, they wouldn't even be able to tell you what that is from. It's not a political statement. No, no. It might accidentally be, but it is not an on- of political statement. Not a, no, not a, it might accidentally be,
Starting point is 00:11:05 but it is not an on purpose. Not meant to be. Um, some of the, like I said, stiffest blue jeans you could ever like things that like if you took them off of him, which rarely happens, but if you took them off of him could stand up straight on their own.
Starting point is 00:11:19 And then we are getting down to the feet and we are rocking the kicks. We are rocking with in the parlance of today uh are either do you know what creepers are no i mean two-tone because there's i i read about two-tone shoes and then uh yeah i saw the word creepers i didn't know what they were so creepers are shared amongst all kind of like uh i would say like sub punk loser subcultures so like they're really big in ska and they're really big in like the swing revival movement they're really big kind of everything got big in the 90s precisely yes so down at the feet of the rockabilly gentlemen we are looking at a pair of probably fairly loud creeps like dress shoes they're like
Starting point is 00:12:04 dress shoes but then they have they're like dress shoes but they're like leather dress shoes with the white and the black and thick sole yeah yeah and often felt uh on the uh sort of where the laces are and the classic is of course the leopard print there on his arm underneath his outstretched arm is his girlfriend they are all married i hate to say this but they are all married so they're okay they're okay they're able to find partners oh a lot of rockabilly women like maybe more than men yes so the community is filled so they're they're able to pair off with each other quite easily oh yeah some of our communities have issue with that no absolutely no this is these
Starting point is 00:12:45 guys are married so women love this so the woman is first of all her job he's a grease monkey or he works at a any number of the guy either works at a uh barbershop barbershop or any job with like a fancy apron so he could be a butcher uh tattoo shop kind of anything where you can have like a bespoke old-timey apron yeah he could be a butcher he could be a butcher 100 she only has he has those like four jobs he can choose from unfortunately her she can only have one job and that job is vintage reseller so she has an etsy store yeah most likely possibly a shop if she's more advanced uh and wears kind of like a big red dress uh has tattoos of a pair of old-timey sailor jerry or a tattoo of a pair of cherries on her ankle uh and possibly so she goes she goes thrifting a lot like she'll go
Starting point is 00:13:43 she spends most of her day thrifting and sells it at etsy shop or whatever or or and then if it if that business takes off maybe gets a storefront going but she's that's that's tough because waiter it's not doesn't seem fair because the men get the choice of three jobs in their community that's true but really all of the apron jobs are the same job it's the same you know it's the same you're topping something up exactly whether it's hair or meat or whatever but you know why that blew my mind when you're describing rockabilly guy physically is because i mentioned this on on twitter and to brian is that my my old barber was is the only rockabilly guy that I know. And the description you just gave was,
Starting point is 00:14:29 you could have actually been describing him on any given day that I saw him. Yes. Dress, hair, tattoos, all of it. He had all of the stuff you described is actually quite unbelievable. It is really, yeah, there's not a lot of variety in the aesthetic, is there?
Starting point is 00:14:44 There's a little bit, you know, creativity but it's it's pretty uniform let me throw a little something in here for you guys that this is a good question that was asked and and it's something we can all reckon with here and it says rockabilly when you have no hair sadly this is like one of life's big oh Oh, no. Because listen, I mean, hey, Brian, you're not I have you know, I have hair, but my hair is I couldn't do that. I'd have to be doing the thing that Brace was describing where I'd have to be like carefully if I wanted to get a big pompadour. It wouldn't be. So this is a huge question in the world. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:22 Yeah. Sadly, the time has come when i can no longer pretend i have a decent amount of hair on my head and i'm gone for a buzz cut i can't be the only one out there with the ability without the ability to have a proper rockabilly haircut oh no i just realized something if you got the rockabilly aesthetic can you shave your head your skin head now it can't be that there's there's like well there's some crossover you could come across that way to people because i want i'm wondering what other people do in this situation hats if so what with a leather jacket on i do end up looking like i'm in judas priest that's probably a nightmare for these guys
Starting point is 00:16:04 i've tried to look up some pictures but all i can seem to get to come up on google are pictures of john travolta with no hair yep oh i see because it's a time to join the dark side psycho billy plenty of bald psycho billies so okay so psycho billy is like when you get you're a rockabilly guy but you get so mad from balding that you go psycho chris chris chris chris chris okay so imagine this it's 1998 right you've been stray cat you've been stray cat strutting all over the motherfucking city right okay you're you're you got a pompadour oh mile high it's like a top hat on top of your fucking head it's incredible but sometimes you're like oh man all this talk about cars and girls in the 50s like
Starting point is 00:16:57 but i got a little more of a dark side to me maybe even look at like oh this this nick cave guy's got a little darkness oh maybe i consider myself a bit of a bad seed what one of the biggest dorks in the 20th century westerns i would say western civilization's greatest dork outside of himmler he i mean my god uh i mean he's got some tracks but oh it's yeah he can make music yeah but it's embarrassing if you really get down to it i mean he's got some tracks but oh it's yeah he can make music yeah but it's embarrassing if you really get down to it i mean i like some of it but it's so this is are you familiar with the nick cave in the bad seeds album murder ballads uh i don't know that i'm familiar i'm familiar with some of the music but i don't know that i guess hits okay so i would know i would know some
Starting point is 00:17:40 of the songs you would know some of the songs um it's it's like that sort of like corny 90s darkness mixed with of course the the rock and twang of rockabilly and so it's like it's like imagine if instead of we sang about make out point we sang about the bone yard so it's like almost like the monster mash it is exactly like the monster mash okay yes that is precisely true uh psychobilly of course was always i i've never met a psychobilly i've seen them i've observed them in the wild so people people you don't usually meet them they're like they're not really sociable they're kind of more elvira so like the guys the guy looks the exact same except maybe he's got like a different t-shirt on the woman is more elvira style in this okay like uh dark aesthetic
Starting point is 00:18:34 like with a white makeup kind of in the already has a giant uh bazoombas but has now squeezed them into the dorkiest i mean it's impossible to have a non dorky corset but a dorky ass corset and she's sort of in black with black fingernail polish they're goth but there's also something i was looking on wikipedia the other day called goth ability and that i don't know i don't know what nowadays with with the amount of people there are it's like they'll just break off into everything. Tex Pundit does have something we should throw in here. He said, I shaved my head and wear a pork pie
Starting point is 00:19:12 hat. Yeah. I was just going to say, there's got to be some hats that are acceptable in the rockabilly community, right? Like the Newsy cap. The Newsy cap, for sure. For sure. Yeah. so i think that's what you got to go with if you want to i mean listen though there's something to be said for going for
Starting point is 00:19:31 a full-on pompadour wig i mean just tossing the wig on like and like extravagant don't you know what i mean like don't even try to present it as real hair try to present it as this like that incredible piece of art that russian band do you remember them from the 90s there's like a russian band that had pompadours i'll put it i'll find it i'll put it in the it's it's like uh cool keith did a thing where he wore like a pompadour wig for a period and this guy goes embrace it there's no shame in going bald i started shaving 12 years ago when my hair got too thin to style plenty of bald billy brothers out there okay bald billy hey bald billy's rise up bald billy's rise up i like it the leningrad
Starting point is 00:20:17 cowboys here we go great name uh let me let me let me see this this was this was very much um all right will this just show up or do i have to put a link no you can you just present yeah you can actually share it with us yeah can i do i share my screen yeah you just share like or the tab yeah it'll come up and do it okay i don't know how to do that i'm also i'm watching uh in the background um i'm i'm watching old videos of the big bopper so very cool here we go here's the chris you're gonna love this i think i think we got some guys you're gonna love here okay these are the leningrad cowboys. Yes, there we go. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:21:06 Okay, so that's what I'm talking about. So they're big pompadours that are pointed super far forward. They really look like birds almost. Yeah, of course. Very, very avian. Very. And so this is what I would do if I were in the cultures. I would throw on a really...
Starting point is 00:21:23 But mine might even be a little more like it would have some flair on it where it would have like little curled designs or whatever you know so it'd be like people would be talking about it there's a ton of different kinds of pompadours chris there's the duck's ass pompadour there's the uh there's there's i read a whole bunch of them i can't remember any other ones but the duck's ass. But this is just like a 50s or 40s or 50s hairstyle, right? It was like the really popular one then. It's sort of like a, I would say, like an idealized or even like glamorized or maximalist version of the 40s or 50s. Because like no one had that in the 50s.
Starting point is 00:22:00 Yeah, no one had what these, the Leningrad Cowboys were sporting. You would be considered too eccentric in that time. You'd be probably killed in the 50s yeah no one had what these these the Leningrad Cowboys were sport you would you would be considered too eccentric in that time you'd be probably killed in the 40s yeah they kill you as a witch yeah exactly I guess if you're a guy anybody who's spent any time around a scene has run into this issue uh how can you tell the difference between a poser greaser and a real one now greasers are rockabillies they are a a different kind i guess i don't know what really makes somebody a greaser as compared to a rock is it interchangeable maybe is it like it might just be another word to me greaser so a big part of rockabilly culture
Starting point is 00:22:40 is the custom car culture are you familiar familiar with Ratfink? Yes. I would say Ratfink is like the totem of the Rockabilly. Of course, Ratfink has his crazy custom cars. The greaser to me speaks more to the car, the vintage car aspect. All of these guys, this is just a way for like a guy to be into vintage stuff by the way yes like that is really just like you see that a lot do they have do they have that same sort of like whiskey classic male sort of ideal like do they
Starting point is 00:23:20 ideals like do they think of the world in that way or do they just like the nostalgia of the nostalgia of the stuff um i don't think it really feels like like because most of them take great fucking pains to mention that they're also uh that they're also progressive it's like styles from the past with progressive that's what i was kind of wondering chris i would say that there is while there is like a 10 of them possibly higher that are like basically nazis uh like the vast majority are are what might be called like very very liberal very liberal okay uh okay well the answer to how to know if you're a poser the first person says uh slapping on a leather jacket and piling up a pompadour doesn't make you rockabilly and neither is not wearing one i think for people just getting into the scene the question should simply be what
Starting point is 00:24:17 is rockabilly it's firstly one of two things an attitude or musical genre i can't figure out which comes first but attitude surely plays a part in the genre aspect people who have been in the scene for a long time can tell you don't quite get what rockabilly is about whether it's how you're suddenly dressing new wearing white t-shirts weird haircuts or whatever it becomes obvious you haven't earned your chops or paid your dues in the scene so that is kind of that sort of answers a question you can't just you can't just pull up one day saying i'm a full rockabilly you gotta ease in you gotta start showing up at some of the events maybe sponsoring some of the other members i don't know exactly how it works but you have to do some of the work first and
Starting point is 00:25:00 then you can slowly become a rockabilly i don't know how you pay your dues that's a pretty odd thing sometimes i mean i'm sure you guys you cats know what this is like though sometimes i'm at the car hop right oh yeah and of course i got i'm talking to maybe betty delilah you're having a malted you're having yeah i'm having a malted you know um um you know i'm with of course hunko and uh and and Borat, who are my two Rockabilly male friends, and then Betty and Delilah, the two girls. And I'll see some Hepcat kind of rock up in his jalopy, right?
Starting point is 00:25:36 Oh, yeah. And I can tell this jalopy is straight out of the junk pile. This guy has put no work on the Grease Monkey Garage on this custom car. No, this jalopy is barely running. And I'm sitting there work on the grease monkey garage on this. No, this jalopy is barely running and I'm sitting there and I'm smoking my vintage cigarettes. Right. And they're vintage.
Starting point is 00:25:51 They're not so good. They're not so good. The tobacco is kind of gone. It's fallen out. Yeah. It's like, it's really making me, there's a distinct chemical taste that is unlike the regular harsh
Starting point is 00:26:02 comforting. Yeah. Harsh in a way that a chinese cigarette is yeah i don't know if you ever smoked those but there's a rough uh a guy comes up and he's like oh hey what's happening hep cats like are you you're greasing you're jiving i'm looking at this i look at this guy i'm like i don't remember you i don't remember you for many of the big bopper buddy holly vigils that we hold every year? Yeah. And I'll ask him.
Starting point is 00:26:28 I'll be like, okay, maybe you know your stuff. Maybe you know your stuff. How old was Jerry Lee Lewis's cousin that he married? Oh, I don't know. 15, 16, 17. Wrong. Wrong. 13. 13.
Starting point is 00:26:39 Everybody knows it was 13. And then, of course, I show him my wrist where my lucky numbers are tattooed. And what is that lucky number that's 13 right in a pair of flaming dice on me oh no that seems in poor taste but it still does show that you are a rockabilly it does show him a rockabilly it's a lucky number it's a lucky number because jaylee lewis you know listen it's better to better to fade out than fade away yeah it is it is that's better to fade out than fade away he does mention there uh he does say he asks a few questions i thought that would be interesting
Starting point is 00:27:18 he goes whatever that it's clear you don't know much about the scene and that's where people start assuming someone is a poser and why that poser is getting into rockabilly was it the fashion did you want to be seen as a tough guy are you a bruiser a gearhead or rockabilly you gotta look out for bruisers when bruisers try to infiltrate your fucking scene and they're like no i'm definitely one of you guys and it turns out that they're a fucking bruiser you are fucked if they get in and they start getting their bruiser friends in it sounds to me it's like the kind of enemies you'd face in a video game like yeah like oh there's a couple of bruisers over there a gearhead you know as the boss or whatever my like i will say this I am having spent most of my life in the punk subculture,
Starting point is 00:28:05 although not being very precious about it. I, and I don't care whatever anyone likes under any circumstances. I'm like always just like, I mean, obviously I judge people and think people are stupid, but I don't, I don't miss silent or,
Starting point is 00:28:19 or vocally, but with your friends, with your friends, I'll make fun of people like everybody does. Yeah. But, but but uh whenever i see somebody that's like this is a poser or whatever i'm not 33 years old you know i'm not like talking like that but sometimes you meet a guy and you're like you like shaved your head or whatever this year and like put a shoelace around your head and you're
Starting point is 00:28:40 wearing this like like you're like 30 why are you doing this and that's like really my only thing to like like i have to be into punk or whatever because i got into that when i was a child and it's like yeah it's like getting circumcised like you're jewish now like it's why are you making a choice at this age in your life to like do this embarrassing thing exactly i guess maybe they were stupid maybe they were were repressing it, though. Do you know what I mean? For whatever reason, they were unable. Yeah, you're right. Hotness. I really think that like a lot of these guys place quite a bit of emphasis on this is what hot guys. Yes.
Starting point is 00:29:18 They're the only guys I've ever seen that have that kind of. I mean, there are guys that are like handsome or whatever but you rockabilly guys feel like they're the like like the hottest punks well they're just so sexy you're familiar with james dean right yeah of course yeah he's a hunk he was a big time total hunk right like probably the marilyn monroe of guys yeah at that time yeah um and i think a lot of these guys like you ever see those memes that are like how come men don't dress like this anymore it's like the peaky blinders or whatever yeah this is kind of the american version of like guys used to have dignity like they'd wear they just wear their white t-shirt to the sock hop
Starting point is 00:30:01 and like james dean is like the hottest guy of and he died so early so he never got to be all fucking fucked up at the end where he died in a hot rod too oh really okay yeah that makes sense like you know yeah they're all just like this guy was the greatest guy ever he probably wasn't and he probably wouldn't who knows what would have happened but yeah they look up to him and that sort of great time in American history. I guess, as you said, it's mostly white men. It was a great it was a greater time for them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:33 You know, here's a question that you guys might be. Here's a question. I asked this guy to prove he's not a poster poser, not a poster. He's he is a poster. He goes, did you change your own oil i know that's got nothing to do with music and you don't have to be able to rebuild a small block chevy or own a lead sled but you should at least be able to find your fuse box so i see so this guy's got a pretty concrete quantifiable way to like he's like if you can change your oil you maybe if not get out of here it's pointless too
Starting point is 00:31:07 right like that i guess if you're driving these old cars it's just to learn how to work on old engine like old engines now because nobody's using those well sometimes yeah i i mean i don't i've never driven a car uh before but i i feel like do you have to change your own oil can't you get an oil change oh yeah it's course to get an oil change yeah of course you can't yeah no you go to the go to the yeah you can get it done very easily very quickly and it's completely you know you would only, you would need to do it if you were maybe out in the middle of nowhere. Like, but even then,
Starting point is 00:31:49 like the, it would be more saying like, do you know how to do other things? Like if your car breaks down or whatever, you know, that might be something that would actually help you in the modern world. You know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:01 A guy does meant, well, he does come back and say, I'm a British greaser or rocker. So I own a motorbike, not a car. So that is that cool? You're a biker. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:13 Sounds like you're a biker. You're kind of almost a biker. And a lot of bikers I know are bruisers. So I'm a little bit concerned with having you involved. But biker is also something that a lot of punks do in retirement as well oh yeah yeah because they can afford because that's the thing about a lot of this stuff too is like the things that they like the cars yeah so fucking expensive like yes like crazy fucking expensive they're like you know i'm driving a 57 chevy and it's completely
Starting point is 00:32:47 restored and like you know it's like a 70 000 car yeah and not only that but like the upkeep on it those types of like when things go wrong and stuff it costs so much i guess you're fixing it all yourself in your car even part even boys it's all worth it when you take that Betty to make out point and you get a slipper of Mickey and pop her cherry, daddy. No. No. That is very. Rebel Rouser Schnauzer, who identifies as a hound dog said uh as automobiles and stuff are quite the tricky thing to get to know about i can't think of anywhere to learn the basic stuff besides just going to an automotive college even then not
Starting point is 00:33:40 sure if they'd be teaching you how modern cars work as opposed to pure mechanics. Again, also not too sure if they teach you how to restore cars either. So, you know, college is. I mean, you could probably listen. It's not not not completely ideal. You could probably learn on YouTube. Yeah. Yeah. Probably YouTube videos where people are showing you.
Starting point is 00:33:59 I don't know that it would like I don't know how it would transfer. There's certain things where it's like you can watch somebody do it on a youtube video but still it's too you know but i don't know i feel like you somebody could show you how to do it well here's here's some welcoming stuff here i think i think this will help us really identify with these guys that the guy says anyway can i i can get a better knowledge without having to surround myself with greasers there aren't any greasers where i live and the guy responds and he goes, you're doing so right now. The internet is the best place for people in your situation.
Starting point is 00:34:30 There's just loads of stuff if you look in the right place. Firstly, I'd recommend listening to Rockabilly Radio. Wait, wait, wait, wait. What is that? I got it on from dusk till dawn. Wait a second, though. What is it? Is that just like in general?
Starting point is 00:34:47 They're saying. Yeah, it's like. Guarantee that's an XM radio station. Oh, it's like an actual. I see. It's like. Okay, that would make sense. They would have rock.
Starting point is 00:34:56 I wonder what's being played on there. Like, what do you mean? You wonder what's being played on there? Reverend Rockabilly. No, but what is Rockabilly? I don't know i i don't know reverend horton he so it's like music from just the 50s or whatever no yeah but there's nine there's 80s and 90s too it's not just that yeah it's not just the 50s it's the 80s and the thing
Starting point is 00:35:19 is you gotta understand chris rockabilly didn't actually exist as such like the rockabilly guy didn't exist as such when rockabilly was like a real thing i see it was just rock and roll back then but it was it was just normal music that was like popular in the 90s they sort of or in the 80s they sort of took this like beginning like i don't know like 1952 ass rock and roll and they're like this is the only type part of this music that we like so like can i tell you something yeah i didn't even fully understand that there was like a total musical element to it until just now it's it's most of it brian setzer of the stray cats and the brian sensor orchestra is like like sort of a god to these people yeah i i suppose i should have known that because my barber was i don't want to say his name because
Starting point is 00:36:11 he's like a fairly well-known musician like he's he he he's a front like a fairly well-known probably reverend horton i did not get my hair cut by reverend I did not get my hair cut by Reverend Horton. Is it Gary Lee Lewis? It's so funny. I do confessions. Like, he's my reverend. But no, I think that you guys wouldn't know this, but you could look him up easily, and it feels unfair when I'm sort of like making fun of him or whatever.
Starting point is 00:36:43 But yeah, he played in a band, and I guess they played rockabilly music, I'm guessing. Can you put their name in the private chat here for us? Oh, yeah, I can. So I can look it up. I can. I will not say it out loud, but I just want to know because I can assure you. It's a good name. It's a good name.
Starting point is 00:36:58 Oh, without even looking it up. This is my brother. This man is a rock up billy you had a cherry pop and daddy yeah ripping those clippers no no doubt about it yeah but i i wouldn't i great name man sorry you can't hear oh my god the picture yeah yeah you're looking at him now. I'm sorry, everyone, that I can't say. He's handsome. Here we go, the pork pie hat. And can I mention as well what they got love about him? He's like five foot two. He's a little cherry pop.
Starting point is 00:37:33 That's how tall people were back then. He's really doing it. That's vintage. He's really living it. That's before they started pasteurizing the milk. I wanted to start a pasteurizing the milk. I wanted to tell this story because so where I grew up and, and Groveport, Ohio,
Starting point is 00:37:50 the last thing you would want to be considered, at least for me was anything with Billy at the end, like no Billy or anything. Cause it was just like, everybody was a redneck. So if you want it to be, you know, something different than in most people did,
Starting point is 00:38:07 you know, most people didn't want to be a redneck at that time or like a hillbilly. So like you would run away from anything that had that connotation. And like, I remember I was working at Kroger with this guy and every day he would try to slip little rockabilly stuff to me. Like he was trying to like turn me rockabilly and he was just like, you know, uh, he would give me like slang, like daddy-o and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:38:34 He would talk about how I should do my hair. And then he would invite me to go to Reverend Horton heat concerts. And it was just like a really, I was being Reverend Horton. That's the big guy that's the big the stray cats and reverend horton heat were the two big ones so when i was like 12 and just getting into punk i went to the tower records in san francisco and sort of just looked at like the alternative section and bought what because i have no i know frame of reference for a lot of stuff
Starting point is 00:39:03 so i just bought a reverend horton heat cd and i took it home when i was like what is this like this doesn't sound like i wanted to hear like black flag i was like i want to hear like some cool music and i'm like this is just like bad can can you can you play a little bit of reverend don't don't play too much i don't want you to get in trouble. It's going to be posted. There were no DMCAs in the 1953. You could argue that with them, and you probably would win in the end. They would have to concede.
Starting point is 00:39:36 They would have to be like, you're right. All right, here comes the Reverend. We'll put you live on KEXP here. Okay, this is a, close to me. Oh, it's a ton of deaths we got here. It's just like a really freaky echo. I hate it. It's like a very freaky echo.
Starting point is 00:39:56 Oh, they always have the biggest Aulo Gibsons you've ever seen in your life. Yeah, that's the kind of... Is that what you expected? John Barber had a guitar like that. Oh, there is no doubt in my motherfucking mind that he did. He had... I'm telling you.
Starting point is 00:40:13 As you guys know, most subcultures of this ilk are just ways for guys to play dress up and collect vintage things. Really, most hobbies of any kind are just about a way to collect something. And this is a way to collect vintage things yeah really like most hobbies of any kind are just about a way to collect something and this is like a way to collect vintage cars vintage uh guitars it's kind of like in a funny way they kind of have the same taste as jay leno like they just like want like yeah like jay leno is is in his soul a rockabilly even if not in his uh you know actual well you know what no jay leto is rockabilly he has kind of because he has a cowboy look definitely in that you know what i mean like sort of he has that denim he likes the denim his face though is kind
Starting point is 00:41:01 of rockabilly his hair gets close to like his hair has gone close to being a pompadour i feel like he's styled it that way sometimes at home like no photos i'm looking at a pompadour a pompadour jay leno when i google jay leno nowadays with the rockabilly guys when this releases like we're gonna be put on the rockabilly hit list i'm sorry are you kidding me every time there's a picture of like a celebrity and like who's wearing like a leather jacket they got styled in that has like an av scum patch or whatever on it like every punk moron i know posted like this is funny like rockabilly people should be excited that jay leno we've made a scientific discovery that jay leno is rockabilly people should be excited that jay leno we've made a scientific discovery
Starting point is 00:41:45 that jay leno is rockabilly yeah we you have you have an actual like listen he might not be loved nowadays but he's still a beloved character from our past and you know now he's like a legitimate guy a real celebrity and he's a confirmed rockabilly now just like james dean he constantly gets into car crashes near fatal yeah but they can never get him though you can never get him you know but no because he's a cherry popping daddy dude he's like that's the that that that term that's the that was a ska band right do we talk about that was a swing revival band and here's the thing that's one of the worst names that i've ever heard actually they did
Starting point is 00:42:26 they changed it right yeah i think they're called the daddies now yeah nowadays i don't think you can even just you can't even call yourself that anymore there are no chairs left to pop no here's here's the thing though and this is the real red pill on this i'm about the red pill you like crazy the swing revival and rockabilly same thing same thing same guy yeah same same leopard print same big ass collar rockabilly is like little thing started in the 1980s swing revival i think did come in the 90s but it's the same thing it's the same thing it's the same guy oh this guy reverend horton he's old oh yeah yeah yeah yeah they're just called the daddies now the
Starting point is 00:43:06 cherry popping daddies are just called the daddies which is kind of you know they kind of lost a little they they they could have been like anthrax why didn't they call them their goddamn name because they call them and also they should have gone with the cherries or maybe it was already a the dad you know what i mean like daddies is still gross and it also like doesn't really like tell me like when you say cherries that for me reminds me more of their band you know well and here's some more on how to get into rockabilly second you're gonna want to bust a move and boogie down to a rockabilly festival so true even if it's out of state there's rockabilly events all over the world. Nearly every corner of America has one, as does the UK and Europe.
Starting point is 00:43:49 Viva Las Vegas could be the biggest consideration. People from all around the world come to be a part of the scene and experience rockabilly. I think I'm going to go to Viva Las Vegas now. Yeah, Viva Las Vegas does seem like something that I might be interested in going to as well trip we're gonna be on las vegas is both the mecca and the jerusalem of like aging like no
Starting point is 00:44:16 effect style punk guys like kind of just like weird 90 any any guy actually you know what anything that was big in the 90s like like sort of their spiritual home is Las Vegas. So all those guys end up there. I have firsthand, well, I guess technically secondhand, accounts of Fat Mike from NoFX engaging in bacchanals, orgies, with groups of punk women and men uh at you know in las vegas in pools i i know that the all those motherfucking rockabillies get down in there and then they all they're all in the back seat it's like where you go it's like other villages where all the old people go to florida
Starting point is 00:44:59 have like a new kind of std they're inventing new kinds of rockabilly stds in in las vegas constantly i'm looking it up here's another rough question here tips for maintaining a pompadour with really thick curly hair oh you're all rubbing it in our face like oh how do i deal that i have too much hair perhaps we have a member of the tribe on our hands pomade maybe like they love pomade oh my god they know all the brands suavecito murray's dapper dan uh yeah but they mostly like and this is kind of funny because of the advertising got to be got to be Yeah. You know, I remember seeing that at Walgreens. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:48 Yeah. That's what they are all into. Yeah. Just yeah. That's like one of the real sort of brands that like mass produced ones. Right. That's got to be. Wow.
Starting point is 00:45:59 Nick Ferratu did say I have really wavy hair. So I have to use industrial strength hair goop to make it do what i want it's a lifestyle choice that a lot of people hate because it can ruin pillowcases and towels but i don't care i also have to contend with hot ass arizona sun that melts normal pomade i tried i tried a ton of different products before i eventually found the right stuff and now i use murray's in the orange can to get the shape and height and finish it off with a spray of got to be glued hairspray. It's not for the casuals, but it does the trick for me. He had a couple of really bad experiences there when he had the regular stuff in there and it melted down his face.
Starting point is 00:46:42 Oh, my God. You know, he's driving that motherfucking t-model ford down the two-lane blacktop right yeah top speed of 35 miles an hour and he's on his he's on his way to see his his little betty to pop her cherry like a true daddy he's he's he's too mess it to the point of pain his his his little fucking wiener feels like it's, it's got a, got one of them rocking atom bombs in it. And he's like,
Starting point is 00:47:09 I got to make it. But the hot Arizona sun, cause his T-model Ford does not have air conditioning. Of course. Arizona is melting into his eyes. Bam. James Dean style. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:20 Our collision kills dead. We have four. He's totally fine for whatever reason. because his pompadour he puts his head down normally you would break your neck but his pompadour is so buoyant due to the due to the elasticity afforded it by his combination of the products he used especially got to be airspray that it functions as its own a hair bag he calls it in i'm wondering actually like i'm trying to think of another like guy subculture where product to put in your hair is such a part of it because i really can't think yeah unless we're talking about like punks with the mohawks which doesn't they don't really exist anymore they don't really they't really exist anymore. They don't talk about that.
Starting point is 00:48:06 They don't talk about that so much. They use soap. You just use a hand bar of Dove soap is the thing I use. I'm trying to figure out if I can... I can't think of anything else. You can go to any barbershop for men.
Starting point is 00:48:22 I went to a place one time, the old-fashioned barbershop for men i i went to a place one time the old-fashioned barbershop uh i to get the the straight razor like the one that comes out like yeah the old old style one oh you were gonna you were gonna you were gonna slip your throat well i was trusting the guy to not do that but he was a very rockabilly guy and you know he cut he cut my beard and and shaved my head and it felt really nice and then he for some reason he wasn't playing rockabilly music he only played red hot chili peppers the whole time i was there under the bridge and then as soon as he was done and he told me the price was 150150, I was like, fuck me, man.
Starting point is 00:49:06 I'm never doing this again. You got to check that price. When you get the straight razor, you got to be like, hey, daddy, I need you to shave my back with this. And so you get them to shave. That's the thing is there's no greater feeling in this world than rocking up to one of these motherfucking rockabilly barbershops and being like i just already coming pre-creamed right you're covered in the cream already under your shirt you're covered in a shirt whole body under the cream and you're like i want i want the toes to nose i want you to be everything line me up with a straight razor daddy yo pop my cherry here and and they'll just they'll
Starting point is 00:49:50 just go up and down here like a like a like a five minute and then and your point being that at that point it becomes worth 150 you've got your money's worth here's a question i couldn't get a great answer for but he said what do greasers wear in hot weather as in do shorts what kind also what do they wear for swimming so i don't what do they wear for swimming vintage vintage big ass women's shorts yeah i mean they're just or like yeah like maybe the the you know banana hammock maybe you know maybe the long shorts that are like kind of hawaiian like yeah you guys are right i think i think they go with those ones but i think when it gets when it gets hot rockabilly guys revert to pop punk guys and they probably wear cargo shorts and like
Starting point is 00:50:38 a giant demented argo t-shirt well i keep saying demented argo t-shirt it's just the worst band name i've ever heard sauerkraut and beans did respond and said if you want to stay with the look i'd recommend a t-shirt and jeans with some sneakers but like others have said just wear whatever makes you comfortable fuck the fashion police and yes we wear swimming trunks so this guy that's not enough of an answer he goes what kind of swimming trunks would you recommend go most with the style? None. They're swimming trunks. Yeah, I would say this is, remember earlier we were talking about the posers?
Starting point is 00:51:10 I think this person is showing themselves to be a poser. You know what I mean? Here's what this person does not understand. Is, yes, there are certain clothing items that are rockabilly, but there's also certain thematic elements to the graphics on clothing designs that make an item rockabilly in spirit if not necessarily in style or excuse me in like actual fabric that would be flame trunks they would be flame yeah flame trunk so they may be a flaming eight ball on them or something yes oh that's green if you can get them yeah if you can
Starting point is 00:51:43 get them those are those are in incredibly high demand and they sell out right if you can't get your hand here's a question that was asked this really pisses them off uh one thing that makes rockabilly's incredibly angry is the movie grease oh yeah you they really dislike the movie theyase. Oh, yeah. They really dislike the movie. They think it gives rockabilly guys and greasers a bad name, and it's inaccurate, actually. It's not an accurate representation of the rockabilly greaser lifestyle.
Starting point is 00:52:16 So there's a question on Quora that said, were the greasers anything like the greasers in Grease 1 and Grease 2? Now, we have this guy who I can't be rockabilly. In most ways, yes. The film got the look and the basic feel just right, the devotion
Starting point is 00:52:32 to cars, the talk about girls, and the non-conformity. My objection to Grease, by the way, the musical, my objection is that real greasers, called rocks in some regions, were often antisocial, and not in a friendly or funny way. Many of them adopted the persona because they just did not fit in with the other kids. They promoted that image and the fact that most of their other mainstream kids feared them in a way. Now, I don't think people really ever feared greasers. I don't think there was ever a time. I think you're thinking of a different type of person, and that is bruisers. And we're all very afraid of bruisers. Yeah, I'm afraid of bruisers.
Starting point is 00:53:14 Of course. I want nothing to do with them if they even have an inkling that you're a bruiser 20 feet away from you at all times. But, yeah, that seems like I don't think they're toughies. Have you guys seen the Warriors? Yes. yes i haven't seen in a long time the guy who made the warriors made another movie that's exactly identical to the warriors called the wanderers and that is a rockabilly greaser version of the warriors that's really good but it features a game of bruisers called the baldies uh but it is like a full greaser that is like i'm sure on the rockabilly subreddit they're like they like they like the wanderers oh the wanderers has it's it's like a very critically acclaimed film and it's got rockabillies
Starting point is 00:53:58 in it so i'm gonna watch this i'm not whoa i'm looking at one of the bruisers right now. This guy is intimidating. He's huge. Holy crap. Here's a question. How do I act like a greaser? Let's get an answer to that. That's tough. I don't understand what exactly you're asking,
Starting point is 00:54:16 but try acting more careless, but more protective over those you love and care about. Put family and close friends first and stay away from the uptight people and rich kids think more on getting by and less on what clothes to wear the next day wear more typical gang attire and don't be afraid to mess around don't be afraid to mess around yeah that is that's probably the best piece of advice there don't be afraid to mess around if you want to be considered rockabilly or a greaser yeah yeah you you gotta you gotta be fun you gotta mess around you gotta uh you got a family first i didn't know that that
Starting point is 00:54:53 was a big thing like i didn't faithful can family just like chuck berry taught us right that's the thing is all every every guy their main guys right Like they're kind of twin towers of the rockabilly movement are Chuck Berry and J. Lee Lewis. J. Lee Lewis, of course, famously a, let's say, neuroatypical pedophile. And Chuck Berry, I don't know if you've ever seen the video. Yes. But Chuck Berry, not exactly a family friendly kind of guy but yeah him i mean i as a child i watched a video of him peeing and then farting on a lady the farting is the funniest farting is the problem i mean because he's just like
Starting point is 00:55:38 it's not like i don't think the farty was part of the sexual congress that he was engaging in i think the fart and chuck bear just probably ate some beans earlier had a little bit of fart i fucking love the idea of the fart being accidental but leave it in don't yeah get it around don't cut it don't cut he's got the brian brian apparently there's a second part of that video that that has someone pooping in his mouth. Right. So why don't rockabilly guys do the poop stuff? And we've talked about the poop stuff on the lawn guys episode where I talked about the video. I saw the guy get poop in his mouth and he chewed it. That made me throw up.
Starting point is 00:56:22 Oh, yeah, it was bad. He had a little bit stuck on his top stop it stop it stop it is the same i didn't like it then human or human or human or human it was a woman sitting on like a toilet without like the gotcha it was just the toilet with the like hollow bottom and he was like laying there oh hollow body yeah but it makes you wonder like hollow body yeah but it makes you wonder like that seems like a real like chuck berry is like a real rockabilly dude you would think some of them would poop you know what i mean yeah but it's like you when you're going for nostalgia you that's one of the beauties of nostalgia is you just get to like pick and choose the elements that you like and relive those you don't have
Starting point is 00:57:04 to take any of the nasty parts you can forget about all the bad stuff that's what makes it nice well this guy super cruiser does talk about how it's the punk retirement plan uh he goes rockabilly is the punk retirement program however i guess i went right past that i've always found vintage clothes to be more stylish i grew up with old music playing my dad had a vintage car in the garage i built things with my grandfather people label me as rockabilly or people like this are so fucking epic and cool to me somebody who's like just kind of like stuff from a different time i love when someone says they were born at a different time it's fucking me too i was born in
Starting point is 00:57:46 the 1980s things were different then things were i was born in the wrong time though that's what i the wrong time that's what i meant i was born in the wrong time that people i love when people say that you know i should have been born in the third i should have been born in like 1640 buddy with my skill set if i was born at that time i would have done very well court jew dude i would have been like in denmark whispering in some fucking duke's ear being like yes loan loan them the gold yes worm tongue are you familiar with worm tongue from lord of the rings i'm imagining myself as in my current state being born there with all of the knowledge i have sort of you know and like i would be i would be so far advanced i would do very well
Starting point is 00:58:32 no but think about this though think about this because you'd be able to explain an iphone to somebody but how would you make one so i would make one but still just my general like views and stuff would be like oh they might be too much yeah i might be killed immediately i would i would be like i'm from the future and yeah we got a new time about this hitler guys coming in like 400 years yeah and we gotta get start getting ready so you would just be getting guys prepared for a hitler i like it i like the hey you know it's like four four generations of people have been prepping for Hitler.
Starting point is 00:59:07 He's never going to take it easy. The other thing, too, is I would have also invented clean drinking water because I could have probably figured that out. We can't be shitting in the river anymore. That's like the one thing I probably could have told them. We should not be shitting the thing we drink from. You would stop that right away.
Starting point is 00:59:23 I want a TV. Also, i would invent i don't know i would probably just tell them about rockabilly i'd be like listen so we got to invent country music kind of for like folk music first and then country music and then blues and that kind of appear at the same time and then from that we get into rock and roll and then for like three years rock and roll was kind of this one type of rock and roll. In about 40, 40 years after that, we got to kind of reinvent that except with Chris Kattan. And Dean, have you ever heard of a 1966 cherry red convertible Corvette? I mean, that's what we're talking about.
Starting point is 01:00:04 I mean, I'd be like virginity is prized in this society, right? 1630 Denmark. So let me tell you the concept of a cherry popping. No, I'll say this. I will say this. There is a good movie to be made of a guy that learns time, that figures out how to do time travel, and then teaches
Starting point is 01:00:25 the people in the past about rockabilly yeah i i you know wait that's literally marty mcfly does that it does yeah that's that's that's actually he does it the movie it has chuck berry in it and everything i mean that's wild i would i would tell people about foods that they didn't realize they could eat yet that's what i would be doing you'd have to invent mexico first no i mean like met you know like stuff like that's out in the you know whether it be a type of plant or whatever or a type of fruit or vegetable that they haven't figured out is okay to eat like that's what I would be doing. Tiny little kale tomatoes, maybe.
Starting point is 01:01:08 No, we got informed that those already exist. A lot of people sent them to me after that episode came out. I forget which episode it was. But lawn guys, where there are blueberry-sized cherry tomatoes, little tiny little blueberry-sized ones that you could just eat. And I want to get a hold of them now. I want to eat them so badly. Oh, you know what, dude?
Starting point is 01:01:30 I would tell people about dinosaurs. That'd be good, too. Because they didn't know about those yet. But I would let them know. How would you prove it? Oh, you would go dig. I just think we got to start digging. Go to Alberta.
Starting point is 01:01:40 Go to Alberta, Calgary area. Drumheller, it's called. That's where a lot of them are. We got to start digging. Like, I imagine this guy goes's where a lot of them are. We got to start digging. Like, I imagine this guy goes back in time. He's like, we got to start digging. We are going to find some bones. Gigantic lizard type things are, we're living here.
Starting point is 01:01:54 Well, I wouldn't tell them they were dinosaurs. I'd be like, they are dragons. And my ancestors killed them. I see. And then you say, if you don't believe me, let's dig them up. I'll show you the. Dig them up. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:02:03 And then you invent a 57 Chevy. And then I'd be like listen let me tell you about etsy oh shit yeah if you drop the etsy bomb on it like at that point they would be listening and the other stuff about etsy bro that we don't need to go to india. We can, we can bypass all of the horrors of the next few centuries. Ma'am, ma'am, let me tell you about a website, ma'am, you know,
Starting point is 01:02:29 some of those old jewels that you got there in Buckingham palace. Yeah. Perhaps if we resold them, I mean, Etsy is a, is like a Haven for rockabilly. It is like one of the things when you search rockabilly is like etsy at etsy page after etsy page well as brace mentioned that the a lot of the time the wives in the relationship
Starting point is 01:02:54 or just the women in the community run etsy pages yes and it just is so this guy does mention people label me as a rockabilly or greaser but i just have a profound love of history and the style that comes with it first of all you don't love history if you're doing rockabilly that's not it's like not actually historically accurate what you're doing uh you sound like anthony kumia talking about like i just i'm just interested in the history of it you know yeah but it's all naz stuff. Yeah, it's all Nazi stuff. My demeanor and taste are dictated by that. I enjoy rockabilly, but it's not what dictates my life.
Starting point is 01:03:31 Enjoying my car's music from the 20s to the 50s. My craftsman home and my wife is what drives me and is all I know. So I did not know they listened to 20s music. 20s music that wasn't like classical music was really fucking weird yeah boogie boogie bugle boy yeah the boogie boogie bugle boy from company three yeah that's actually the 40s yeah that's what i'm saying like i'll go back and listen to for whatever i want to explain exactly why but i sometimes do go back and i'm trying to find music from a long time ago and i've music from that era is just very strange like it doesn't sort of it's
Starting point is 01:04:11 not like some music from historical times where you can sort of get a foothold it's very weird music very campy very campy yeah well like like music was mostly until like the 50s guys playing piano and then making really suggestive, like with body lyrics and making really suggestive like things to their eyebrows. Yeah. Yeah. Like you'd have to see them to even understand that it was a suggestive thing because you had to see their eyebrows moving. Yeah. Yeah. Like she's like, you you know like she's eating roast
Starting point is 01:04:45 beef and then like looking at you well because you weren't allowed to make that many double entendres back then before the freedom of rock and roll granted that to you whoa nowadays there's nowadays there's certain isn't there a whole day for it now, Brian? A whole rock and roll day? No, double entendre days. That's a pastafarian holiday. That's a pastafarian holiday that we recently learned about. So this is our last greaser and he was born a greaser.
Starting point is 01:05:17 So it's good to leave us leave the show on a greaser. He goes, I practically grew up on a tour bus and i was always surrounded by motorcycles leather jackets and hollow body guitars but i never realized it was different for me it was simply life you know i had nothing to me it was just every it was just that's what life was but so you grew up on tour but so do was your was their parents like quite famous musicians who knows reverend horton he maybe well because like to be on a tour bus to have an actual tour bus and be growing up on it maybe he was married maybe she was married to jerry lee lewis yes he goes i uh i also didn't notice when it was that I started wearing polos and listening to pop music. It makes me gag just to think about it.
Starting point is 01:06:08 So this guy went through a non-Rockabilly phase. Like, it was Rockabilly. Sometimes you need to go through the fire to get to the ice. Sometimes you got to fight back against the man. And in this case, if the man is Rockababilly then it means listening to pop music and wearing a polo yeah he started wearing polos he's like fuck how did these polos sneak into my what the fuck this shirt got a collar on it you know yeah i was popular and i had conformed to the in crowd but later in high school i decided on a whim to come to school with my hair greased and when my then girlfriend told me it looked stupid i was deeply offended and we broke up the
Starting point is 01:06:51 next day fair enough that's that's fair uh you know fair from both sides i think not all daddies pop cherries dude i wore the pompadour every day after that, and I fully embraced my rockabilly roots. Musically, I'm still in transition, as I haven't written anything outside of punk rock or gospel. P.S. I hate creeper shoes. They're not rockabilly. They're psychobilly. I find them wildly unattractive. The only thing from the punk emo goth scene i find acceptable for rockabilly
Starting point is 01:07:25 are skinny jeans as in the 50s greaser wore slim fit jeans which was as tight as you could get at the time i'd imagine they'd have preferred skinny even then so that is i think you can wear they they would have liked to avoid he's like making assumptions for them they liked him so skinny they didn't have skinny jeans then but they would have wanted to wear them if they were available a creeper the creeper thing he is right those are more psychobilly but let me tell you the lines have been they're blurred yeah which blurred lines one of my of course favorite songs of all time oh yeah speaking of rockabilly actually the last casino i went to casinos by the way are very rock that's where oh my gosh most rockabillies don't
Starting point is 01:08:11 actually use banks they use casinos to sort of store their money there last time i went to a casino was at uh the indy casino outside of la uh which i had a bad luck run a bad luck at that motherfucker but uh the blurred lines guy was playing that night and there was like it was not it was really it made me depressed for him that is that because he was a big star not that long but he also people were kind of like wait a minute this song is not doesn't have the best message and I think it was stolen, too. It was one of the main parts of it. Didn't he get in trouble for a very famous song, I think, from Marvin Gaye or something like that?
Starting point is 01:08:52 No, I got to tell you this. I got to tell you this. They don't really sound alike. They don't. I mean, I have no love for Robin Thicke or whatever. I agree. They don't really sound alike. There's some weird thing that I don't understand as being a non-musician
Starting point is 01:09:08 that they always bring up about it. There's certain things that are like... Oftentimes, I'll hear those cases and I'm like, I don't hear it. It doesn't sound more similar than other songs sound similar. Nowadays, you can't really judge.
Starting point is 01:09:24 Honestly, think about where we're at in music. like songs sound similar and nowadays you can't really judge something like honestly like yeah think about where we're at in music you know it's trying to make something that doesn't take from something else is pretty fucking hard at this point here's our last guy part-time ninja which is not a rockabilly name i don't like it uh i guess i've always had a bit of rock and roll in my life my dad my dad used to play a lot of buddy holly in the car but i was more of a punk in my teens a friend of mine introduced me to the living end whose first album was punk with a rockabilly edge the double bass was distinctive i read that they were stray cats fans so i discovered them and then I was hooked and went further back,
Starting point is 01:10:05 discovering Eddie and Wanda and the rest. I got some two-tone creepers and bought some 50 shirts, but it wasn't really daily. Then about two years ago, I decided I had to try the haircut. And that was the turning point. Finding a barber who was into working with me meant I could get it just right. But now my hair is cut in such a way, short sides and really long front, kind of lopsided that if I don't quiff it, it's all over the place. I don't want more. Yeah, we both said it wrong. You're right. Cloth. But it says quiff, Q-U-I-F. Okay. So I'm rockabilly daily. As a guy, I'm lucky that even when I'm just throwing on t-shirt and jeans,
Starting point is 01:10:44 if I just quiff the hair, roll up the sleeves and turn up that even when I'm just throwing on t-shirt and jeans if I just quiff the hair roll up the sleeves and turn up the jeans I can just rock away and that is our last rockabilly guy story yeah hey that's cool so he he's basically the hair seems to be a big element of it like which makes sense yeah yeah you got that big pompadour and you've got some jeans and a t-shirt on you're walking in you're looking rockabilly no matter what really it doesn't matter what's on the t-shirt really or like you know you got that pompadour you're okay people balding balding rockabilly guys they got a tough time but there are things you can do the newsy cap and or you can really try to hold on and i do like that like where you're you know carefully
Starting point is 01:11:31 each hair is going over top of the other one like almost creating a braid on top of your head keep it going um but yeah this guy hey listen i i don't think i like these guys that much but i don't hate them they're not evil they're just not evil yeah they're kind of dorks but they think they're like there's something like really unsatisfying about them and that they are dorks but they will never know they're dorks yes yeah like you can't if you hold up a mirror to them they'll just take out a switchblade comb and start fucking yeah that's that's kind of powerful the fact that they're just like they think they're so hot in that look and like hey as you it seems to work they find somebody else who finds that look hot as well and and so it's like they kind of are hot in their own little way you know they're dorks to us but they have like an incredibly hot and the aesthetic is like well manicured it's like it's very well
Starting point is 01:12:33 presented you know what i mean they're putting some effort into presenting themselves in a way and it's working in some ways i think i i mean look the whole world is now more in a, like, everybody's in their own little group. Yeah. So Rockabilly are just one of those little groups that they all meet up once a month at some Rockabilly festival. And they do their things. I did find a guy that I'm still, still you know maybe he'll be on the stream his name's cryptic art that's k-r-y-k-r-y-k sick art and he is a greaser and i wanted to play him on the show but i also was worried that he's goofing i could like it's such a weird subculture
Starting point is 01:13:21 that it's like i don't know i don't even know if these guys are fucking serious about what they're doing. You know, it's like very hard to tell if they're making fun of greasers and acting like one or are greasers because it is. It is. It definitely is like the sort of LARP thing where it's like they know it's kind of silly, but they're still pretending to be in the 1950s. Yeah. Just just the last thing viva las vegas i looked it up the rockabilly weekend it has red hot vegas it has the high roller ticket classic ticket it has a bowling tournament of course that's a guy that's kind of yeah yeah yeah
Starting point is 01:13:59 yeah and then and then also a big hot rodder ticket, which is the hot rod show, I'm guessing, where they're showing off all their hot rods. And then they have non-legal weddings and commitment ceremonies and legal weddings as part of the actual event. And you know who's officiating that. That's goddamn Elvis Presley. Well, Brace, it's always fun to talk to you. It's been a long time. I know. I love to be back.
Starting point is 01:14:30 I know. I know about all kinds of guys. Yeah. We got to do some shit. We'll do. Well, me and Brace, we'll do stuff again. Yeah, I would love that. And Chris, you know, not even a show.
Starting point is 01:14:43 And the CJS on Twitter braces from true andon podcast, which I'm sure you already know about. True Anon. And we will see you next week with Halloween, guys. Because it is Halloween when this episode, when the next episode comes out. So that's it. We'll see you all on the next run. Bye. Bye.
Starting point is 01:15:07 Thank you very much.

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