Guys: With Bryan Quinby - Guys: Episode 4: Erowid Guys with Chris James and Jesse Farrar

Episode Date: March 7, 2023

This week we go to one of the internet's oldest communities, Erowid, to find some psychonauts and see what they are up to. I had my frequent co-host Chris James (@thecjs and Not Even A Show) on so that we could talk about drugs with some authority but we needed someone to educate so we brought on our least square friend Jesse Farrar (Your Kickstarter Sucks, Go Off Kings @BronzeHammer on Twitter) to talk about Nutmeg, Dramamine, Gasoline and Catnip If you want more Bryan you can get it on patreon.com/murderxbryan twitch.tv/murderxbryan for streams @murderxbryan on twitter Music by @avantlard  I love you Bryan

All right, that's about enough of that. Hey, welcome to Guys, a podcast about guys. I am your host, Brian, and I have with me my frequent collaborator, Chris James. How's it going, Chris? Hey, how's it going? I'm going by Chris the Sweetie nowadays, actually. I had my name as Chris the Cunt. We were doing the Twitch stream and I realized that it was coming up on the screen and it was maybe a little inappropriate. So we did change it to Chris the Sweetie and I'm just going to stick with itista Sweetie check it in I love it and and I'm gonna say this I am I'll bring in Jesse too I have Jesse Farrar here a guy known for how much he loves

drugs for this era yeah I think well now look I already did look I think I messed up the scheduling it was my fault I got confused about time zones like a little baby. But I kind of wonder if maybe you got confused about which guy you wanted to have on to talk about this topic. Yeah, well, yeah, we were a bit concerned that you would be too freaking high to even come on to talk about it this time of day. So, yeah, good point. But, no, we figured we'd get you earlier in the morning before you started toking and before you started dropping A, dropping acid, dropping A. Yeah, no, Jesse, have you ever done drugs? Let's just get that out of the way.

I mean, no, not really. Not really, no, not really. Not really, no. Yeah, you've smoked weed before, yeah? Yeah, I mean, not enough to fill up a journal with experiences and crazy ideas and nothing of note, really. But yeah, I've dabbled. I'm not dabbed. Oh, yeah, yeah, be clear with that. Let me be clear, I've dabbled like i'm not dabbed oh yeah yeah be clear i've dabbled that's that's a different i guess that's a different thing i used to i dabbed once i got i was performing at this thing called the electric canna carnival and it was like the

weirdest experience of all time it was basically it was in michigan and it was medical marijuana was the only it was it was before they had recreational weed and they had a big section of so basically it was at a speedway not the gas station that you know we got a lot of confusing things so far yeah because speed and speed also speed is another thing it's also a and you're weighing out the speed before you sell it probably yeah most likely you have to weigh it out yeah so it's there's an enclosed section for people they show their medical was it open or closed enclosed yeah now i'm like wait what wait a sec there was a carnival happening that was in the open right like curiously no cars allowed, though.

This is what I don't get about this whole thing. It's a carnival. It's on a bicycle and there are other unicycles. So it's a huge area. And then it's got a huge closed in area of weed where you could go in and try different kinds of weed. Okay. All kinds of weed and dad. Okay. All kinds of shit. And you either had to have a medical card or a backstage laminate to get in

there. Either one is good. According to Senate Republicans, as soon as you get in there, if you have the backstage laminate, like the all access laminate laminate, they're just giving you shit for free. I got like somebody all-access laminate laminate they're just giving you shit for free i got like somebody handed me an ounce but they're like i hadn't known anything

about um dabs ever i had heard the word but and this guy's like why don't you try doing one of these dabs and i did and i fucking it was the craziest thing i ate i ate uh so there were these there were these lemonades and i said how many milligrams is this but i didn't know how milligrams worked and i was like i'm a pretty heavy weed smoker at this time and they're like it's 150 milligrams and i'm like okay you know that's a lot just to be clear but like that's i do take i take that amount when i would take edibles i would take that amount but it is a high dosage well i think one thing of the lemonade and then they handed me a cookie and they're like these ones aren't the medicated ones and i was like oh okay yeah i'll have some cookies because i just had some weed these cookies would be great and she was like did you eat these ones and pointed at him and i said yeah she was like those have a hundred milligrams those two and i did 350

milligrams of weed in like 15 minutes yeah and i went into my car and i helped it down for exactly two that's the last time i really did a lot of weed yeah and uh then i got the the dabs caused you to eat the all of that weed then i got up and i thought i was normal and i was about to go on stage and i got really nervous so i was like i'm gonna go do some more weed to kind of level that out when i roam yeah i went and did a dab and then i got on stage and there were only like 15 people at the whole festival okay a whole fucking there were four people watching yeah and this the last day of the festival the guy that was running it didn't pay the stage people so they're taking the stage down and boba flex which is a heavy metal band is playing an acoustic set in front of a trailer

because the stage is gone it was just a whole big mess but i did so much weed that day that's different than what i had like it really when you i was sort of imagining a much different thing and then all of a sudden you're like there was 15 people at the whole festival it just changed my my like perception so quickly and so drastically yeah i was thinking this was this big sort of like expo like thing like i was i was honestly picturing twitchcon is the only kind of thing that i've been to like that recently there was more people working at this festival than there were it got right the festival got ratioed yes it was fucking nuts and and the guy didn't pay us and we

drove up there but he was like you get all this free weed so i think we've looked a ton of free weed so you but and jesse's never dabbed before i've never dabbed but i do know like i'm the type of guy which maybe if you ever heard me talk for more than five minutes you can probably pick up on the fact that i'm the type of guy who before i endeavor to try and experience anything I'm researching about it and reading about it ad nauseum up front so whether it's a tv purchase or whether it's uh going to a casino I want to play a table game I want to make sure I have all the etiquette right for the table game or whether it's you know trying illicit uh hardcore drugs such as weed I I do like to sort

of get an idea of you know what are people what are people saying about you know this this versus this and what's this method and what's this amount and all this other kind of stuff so i'm pretty familiar with the you know the parlance and so forth but i but i've not i've not tried they've not done it yeah weed is basically a vegetable by the way you called it hardcore drugs but but it's basically nothing. It's like a neutral substance for most people. Some vegetables are pretty hardcore. Yeah. Sometimes. Yeah. Tell, tell that to a comedian when he's getting pelted with tomatoes. Yeah. No big deal. It's just a vegetable, but I've, I wanted to say I've taken a dab once only I'm a hardcore weed guy. So I, I've smoked a lot of weed. As I mentioned, I'll take quite a bit of edibles.

So I have a pretty high tolerance, I think, regular user. And I remember dabbing at like a weed stand-up comedy show. And I was like more like high than I had been by far and like not in a fun way and like I'm not really sort of connected to what's going on kind of way. And it really turned me off the idea of ever doing it again even no matter how much weed i i started smoking i never went the dab road well it's funny because i don't i never researched that so arrowhead wasn't around when i was starting doing drugs i started when i was 12 that's that's fucking mind-boggling by the

way because this is the oldest website on i know i was just gonna say it was definitely it was definitely around when i was doing drugs but brian's a little bit older and also started younger so it makes sense he would have been would have been just before it it popped up this says i don't know if this is the very earliest instance of the web so we could probably find it on the archives or something but this says content and design copyright 1995 to 2023 so basically i close two three or four years wow before i because i did acid when i was 12 i didn't do any research on it because somebody was just like it's acid it makes you laugh and i was like that sounds pretty sick to like have taken acid you know because it seems like it's gonna burn or something like it's very fun and uh i

ended up getting it can i just can i do how much of that do you story do you remember because i would like to hear a little bit more about that just like like what where were you at a party no i was hanging out with my friend he had a 16 year old sister who was way super into partying and stuff like that and we were like kind of hanging out outside and he kept bringing up acid and i couldn't i didn't know what it was i'd never heard what were you guys doing just like playing outside at the uh on the like kind of at the playground but not really like climbing not drinking or smoking weed though like you were no we probably had like a stick or like a ball or something that's what i'm saying you're like a boy you're like a boy we're playing hanging out you know i would guess playing basketball over at the elementary school where we used to hang out and smoke all the time and stuff and um we find

out about acid and it was mcdonald's acid I'll never forget it had the golden arches on it It's not I didn't know they did that Not officially I don't think Well because it's a franchisee type of thing So maybe some places I don't think it's a licensed thing Sometimes people have the McLobster

And then you go down here and they don't have it So sometimes it's one of those things Jesse it's not at the store The drug dealer just put that on there because he thought it made he would sell some stuff and to tell you that that sounds illegal to just be putting somebody a company's registered mark on a yeah i never thought of that that's actually that's actually it gets a lot and they would be looking at a pretty hefty lawsuit from the mcdonald's corporation probably pretty good lawyers with that they have as well i would imagine i would imagine so of course yeah well would be looking at a pretty hefty lawsuit from the mcdonald's corporation probably pretty good

lawyers with that they have as well i would imagine i would imagine so of course yeah well i hope you got deep pockets you know yeah mr acid dealer i hope you got a deep pocket the guy's selling acid to 12 year olds on the playground i hope you have someone on retainer my friend jesse that's the thing i think about all this i don't think about me doing acid at 12 as being this like really fucking weird thing or whatever yeah because all my friends did it we were all doing acid and smoking weed and stuff when we were in sixth grade and like uh but the guy that my friend's sister who was 16 at the time selling us that stuff and telling us the uh convenience store that'll sell you booze for an extra dollar

and stuff like that that shit it's like mind-blowing to me that she sold us we bought i think it's not that mine it's not that mind-blowing to me only because she's only 16 herself so like her judgment is really off still at that point like when i was 16 i had no sort of idea like a 12 year old kid is not that much younger than you i mean it is but it's still in the same sort of realm of your sort of age group i mean it's it's probably not a good thing to be doing and then also the fact that like hey it's acid it'll make you laugh is really yeah sort of underselling the effects of acid i would say yeah there's other let's go fucking watch cartoons

that shit'll make you laugh too i mean i mean take some ass and watch cartoons okay all right now you got me now we're talking we just ran around the neighborhood like we did on a normal day like we waited for our parent we got up early we waited for our parents to go to work we all dropped the acid by the time they were home we were sort of coming down summertime summertime summertime yeah yeah yeah and we just kind of walked around the neighborhood and laughed all day it was very fun um but so arrowid i go to and i don't look for regular drugs i decided that like the the real thing about arrowid is that people are doing odd drugs. Yeah.

I think we should just say quickly, for anyone who doesn't know, most people probably do, but Erowid, it's a drug website, essentially, where people go and talk about the effects of different drugs and their experiences. It gives you a rundown of everything. I remember using it all the time when I was younger. Yeah. I never knew about it.

It's literally from another time, but also figuratively from another time as well. It's very much trapped in amber just from a website design point of view. Totally. But also just from an experience point of view, because this is not something that really translates well to a modern experience for basically anything, but much less like drug taking and stuff like that whereas now it's time to sound like a 65 year old man you would have these first of all you would just tell your friends personally you wouldn't probably write it up online but if you did it would it would be on social media right you just have many outlets to write it up and there yeah something that disappears on a story on some someplace like that you know what i mean

like it's it's not something you leave up on a essentially a message board for decades to come, which is just so weird. Although I'm not really certain because I think and we're going to get into this a little bit. And I think there are certain guys in this world who exist and feel the need to discuss these experiences. And I think those guys do exist. I think there's way fewer of them now because you're right, Jesse. Most of them are doing it in other ways. But I think there's those special guys that are still saying, hey, you know what?

I just had the craziest fucking trip. Well, and you're not right about it. You're not wrong because actually up until very, very recently, this was something that was was being printed in newspapers. Was it Maureen Dowd that had that crazy weed edible experience? Is that the New York Times that that got printed in and everyone was making fun of her? Even though I was like, hey, I've had the exact same horrible experience. However, I did not write about it like you did in the New York Times necessarily.

Tell a couple of close write about it in the new york times necessarily but tell a couple close mates about it some people some people did some people got paid presumably tens of thousands of dollars to write about in the new york times so i guess that is still happening a little bit it's funny because she she also overdid it yeah like almost on purpose like as in i think somebody told her to take one piece of the candy bar which the the thing about weed is like, they should just make like a full candy bar. The thing, like it's, it's stupid to make a candy bar where each square is one dose because you have to store the candy bar. You do. Yeah.

My wife loves these candy bars, but we have to store the candy bars while she's getting through them i i take gummies they make them they're just little mini gummies and each of them is like whatever so that that's the way that i take that's that makes more sense the candy bar seems to me like a square peg in a round hole yeah people just like candy bars but we still have there's not really a logical way to break it up because if you want to do more than once like i'm eating what like i'm eating three candy bars what the fuck how old am i i can't be eating three candy bars in a day you know yeah no you got to put a high concentrate of it into a small amount and that's what they say like people

are like oh they use those like sour candy so you don't like taste the like that's fine that's fine i appreciate that i want to be eating less of the thing and taking it i don't mind that you know me too so here's a drug that i don't think you guys would have known about it's a very popular drug on arrowid and we're gonna start here uh from transambulance is the name which is the extremely drug guy name yeah but uh it says keeping it real and then dot dot dot my nuts uh so he's funny and this is a trip report on nutmeg which you can uh trip on but i've heard i've heard this before i've never. This seems like one of those ones that you like a desperation one. Yeah. You know, looking that way when you read a few of these trip reports. So it isn't. So these people are seeking it out. And there it's not like, oh, shit. Like, because now I might be ignorant here because maybe you need so much of it that it wouldn't that you need more than what would just be around your house you know um but i think that would be that would be a little bit of nutmeg goes a long way when it comes to eating it so if you have to like if you have to smoke this much nutmeg i'm out i don't want it i'm not sure let's let's wait let's hear let's hear

it says do not use power use powder powder. Power. Use whole, fresh, organic nutmeg. Two, don't underestimate its potency. Most people take way too much. Expect three to four hours to pass between ingestion and effects. That is wild. I just want to say, as a drug user, that is a wild amount of time. I mean, I'm getting a little antsy. a drug user that is a wild amount of time i mean i'm getting a little antsy if i'm you know taking some mushrooms 34 like 35 45 minutes have gone by i'm like come on let's go you know i don't think

they work i i'm always i'm a i'm gonna take shrooms and says i don't think they work guy every time like they're gonna work for me i think that some people got into some think about the amount of trouble you get in early taking nutmeg you know what i mean yeah you're just like this definitely isn't working you take more and you're like well this this isn't working either i guess i'll take some more this isn't working and now you've ended up taking he does say the next tip here is to clear your calendar for at least 36 hours after ingestion oh another that's another one that's another one where it really really turns me off um i don't really have the ability to clear my calendar for that long unfortunately not to uh not to repeat somebody else's joke but it does feel a lot like the mitch headberg thing

about baked potatoes like maybe i'll just throw one in in case I want one later. Like maybe I'll just smoke some nutmeg in case I want to be high. Six hours. Maybe. Maybe. That's that is really because because I think that would be just sort of jar. I guess you'd get used to it. But certainly the first time when it's even if even if you know it's going to take that long. The fact that you do it and just so much time passes and then all of a sudden like hours later watched a couple movies done you know gone for a walk and then boom then

you're just fucking high well here's how he did it i'm going to give you guys the ingestion the way he did it so it's not smoking no i crushed two fresh nuts purchased from a local organic co-op in a steel pot with a hammer wrapped each ofpped each of the resulting teaspoons of mash in a melted mozzarella cheese slug, which I then swallowed whole. The taste of nutmeg is unpleasant, but the cheese slugs acted like a large pill casing. Like a dog. Like you would dose a dog with their heartworm medication. Nutmeg and mozzarella to me it's like you're taking a mozzarella pill which doesn't seem good cheese is already hard to deal with sometimes i i think this

is this is where i betray my total uh my felix hunger nature uh when it comes to this kind of stuff because if i wanted to get i don't want to get high i don't like the experience of it and i'm just not built for it i would prefer to just do i just need this i just need what's going on right here i don't need anything else that's like hidden or beyond or anything i don't need to access any of that stuff but like if i did like i wanted to chill or whatever if i got to the point where i was having to smash something with a hammer in a steel pot, I think at that point I'd be like, well, hold up.

Maybe I can just like go for a walk. Cause like, I can't, you know what I mean? Like if I need to cope with something, I'm not smashing stuff with a hammer. You know what I mean? It's not that bad for me yet. Someone, someone, if someone smashed it for me at the hammer and it's like already produced, there we go. And then I can grab it then maybe, but you're right.

All that. That's the same with dabbing. I mean, it's a similar type thing. You like got the whole rig out and you got a blow torch and I'm just kind of like, you know, I don't know, man. This seems like a blow torch is like, seems like a bit much here for what I'm looking to do. Maybe we don't need to bring titanium into the mix.

Yeah. Yeah. I think I'll just smoke it with a lighter or whatever, when I want to do it, you know? And yeah, this seems like a lot of work. And also, yeah, the six, the 36 hours thing. That's always crazy. Just like the day long, you know, journey. No, thank you.

No. It also says pure lemon juice work to wash out the worst of the flavor. But I had nutmeg flavored burps for a while afterwards. Oh, yeah. Oh, God. Like when you eat French onion soup and you're still getting it after it like a couple days later yeah oh man and he's and think about it you could tell it was a real problem he's like putting cheese pill casing and like lemon juice like

just going to extremes to try to deal with this taste so it was not pleasant it was like a real issue so number one he tells us about the euphoria. The first giggle set in three hours after ingestion. I felt drowsy. And when I allowed myself to relax, everything seemed funny. Early on, the experience was very similar to mellow marijuana or marijuana and alcohol at the same time. Giggles and good feelings were easy to control, but enjoyable when left uncontrolled i watched the sunday night edition of adult swim and was much less critical than i usually am okay so i got he usually watches let's be clear he usually does watch it but he's very critical

normally he sees he probably sees through some of the bullshit right yeah but then now he's very critical normally he sees he probably sees through some of the bullshit right yeah but then now he's just kind of like oh yeah okay i'll just sit back and i'll let fucking rick morty and i don't know i don't know who's on that probably a long time he's he's probably thinking more like fry lock and meatball and those kind of guys oh oh yeah what what can you do you have a date on this i don a date on this. The next thing he said is a hallucination, which I'm sure Jesse would love. That's the big, you know what? There's a lot of side effects or maybe just general effects.

Hallucinations is the one I think I'm all the way out on. Yeah, I will tell you. Hallucinations, it's not a side effect of drugs. It's an effect. It's one of the main ones the one you're looking for yeah yeah i remember being like the first few times i did acid like doing the hand in front of your face you know like this is great but i'd love to see like a dragging because i i thought you saw like shit you don't really see anything man my i had a pretty good mushroom trip it was kind of fun until i started fucking seeing a pretty good mushroom trip it was kind of fun until i started fucking seeing a bunch of cool lights that was when it started fucking with me

that's fucking jesse taking drugs yeah it is because they're not there and i know they're not there that's actually a that's a problem i think it's i think it's normal to be upset when you can't square your perception of reality with what you know to be real that's that's a serious you're right that's a mind fuck you're right you're right i had lots of good ideas he put good ideas in quotes that's how he knew he was fucked up because his his previous idea was smashing a bunch of nutmeg in a pan with a hammer so that's how he knew he was getting really messed up ideas that are fun to think about and mentally explore in parentheses there on nutmeg i get good ideas from marijuana but my thinking was different on nutmeg as the experience

continued i found myself experience experiencing mild hallucinations and extreme sexual arousal i arousal to the nature of my hallucinations but others have reported sexual arousal from nutmeg as well. Hallucinations were quite easy to control once I accepted that I was, in fact, hallucinating. So perhaps they were of an erotic nature because I was aroused by the nutmeg to begin with. Yeah, I'm not liking this drug more and more. Yeah, I don't I'm not I'm not liking this drug more and more. So you tell this thing, it disconnects you from reality, forces you to hallucinate and become extremely sexually aroused. Plus, you start believing all the bull crap they put on Adult Swim.

No, thanks. Yeah, no, thanks. You all of a sudden are fucking laughing at Adult Swim. No, no. Actually, my fucking comedic palate is a little bit above that. And I will I would like to keep it that way. Yeah. So here's the side effects and remedies.

One, bad taste. To avoid the taste, I melted fresh mozzarella on a plate, poured the nutmeg mash into three teaspoon-sized lines, and then melted more fresh mozzarella over the top of each line. After pinching the cheese fully shut around the spice, I scraped the three slugs off the plate and swallowed them whole. Oh, I didn't know. I thought he was just wrapping it in some cheese. I didn't know it was this weird alchemy process. That's fucking disgusting. Cheese slug?

Ugh. I don't know why he picked cheese. Like, couldn't you have... Well, I guess we bake nutmeg in cookies all the time. Yeah. Can you make, like you we bake nutmeg and cookies all the time but yeah can you make like a super nutmeg cookie i mean if you're just thinking about stuff you give the dogs to trick them just put it in peanut butter and just eat some peanut butter out of the jar or something yeah that's what you do with shrooms you put a put them on a peanut butter sandwich and that

makes like 10 times easier and then afterwards yeah you gotta you know you dig out a little hole in the peanut butter you know and then afterwards you do whatever you want yeah hey well hey maybe well these mushrooms are making me so around i can't help it i'm high on nutmeg oh well when i look at peanut butter and i've been taking nutmeg all i could think about is i'll stick my damn dick in it number two is dehydration the worst side effect in my experience was cotton mouth i was pissing like a racehorse and dehydrating rapidly once the effect in my experience was cotton mouth i was pissing like a racehorse and dehydrating rapidly once the effect set in and the cotton mouth was a good thirst indicator i stopped it's always a good thirst indicator yeah that's cool man the cotton

mouth was a good thirst indicator is such a fucked up way of just saying like my mouth is dry it was you're thirsty like he said i stopped drinking water at some point but i kept urinating more water came out of me than i was putting in i don't think that's true i don't it's not true but also if it is it's very alarming yeah you've you've described an emergency for one emergency but also perhaps a real physics phenomenon he goes i force myself to drink more i'd suggest having a good amount of fresh high quality water to drink on hand and drinking enough so your piss stays clear uh number three this is the one that i got this one for gastrointestinal disturbance oh as i said before i had nutmeg flavored burps i also had stomach pain and bad gas around eight hours after ingestion but a slice of fresh ginger under

my tongue had me feeling better almost instantly i also had lots of stomach gurgling throughout the whole experience and an almost non-existent appetite the next day so he was he had diarrhea he got diarrhea from this too did these guys give ratings out of like 10 or something like that at the end of this or no this was a this was a positive one but no they don't give ratings they just kind of are like hey and then finally the crash i had severe fatigue on the following day similar to a hangover after a night of good fun. Food, despite my loss of appetite, bed rest, and a hit of marijuana, a bottle of beer at dinnertime, and vegetating in front of cartoons helped me through this. I think it was a lot of cartoons.

He loves cartoons. Hey, don't do a search on Arrowhead for cartoons. Your rig might shut down. That's all these guys do on here. I mean, is this a kid, maybe? This one, I got adult vibes off of. Oh, yeah. Adult swim cartoons, I forgot.

Yeah. That's how you know that kids can't watch that. Kid would say, I watch a Barney. Well, kids would be watching it. What the heck's going on? Well, I do have this one, too. Nutmegmeg i'd give nutmeg a thumbs up by timothy and uh he goes uh well i had tried nutmeg a few times before this experience but i hadn't really felt the real power of it until now i used pre-ground nutmeg and all of them the first time i tried to take it down

with water but ended up throwing up so i decided to mix it with something so this is what i did i got a big bowl of vanilla ice cream and the nutmeg i would take a spoonful of ice cream and a spoonful of nutmeg and sprinkle the nutmeg on top of the ice cream i did this over a bowl so that i could reuse the nutmeg i spilled then i shoved it in my mouth and swished it up i didn't want to swallow because it has the texture of sand and will stick to your throat after it was all mixed up and it felt like a slush i swallowed it it's not the best tasting stuff but it's not the end of the world bad okay well that's good to know that it's not like sort of apocalyptically i want to end things this is the end of my life type of bad but people are

sort of describing this does seem like a very difficult drug to take doesn't sound fun at all it seems like nature's kind of maybe saying like nah it's not it's not one of the ones you're supposed to do i don't i don't i don't want to spoil anything that may be coming down the pike here but is is there stuff on this website it's like, I hit myself in the head 40 times and I got to see a vision? Because it sounds like these guys are willing to do anything. This was disgusting.

You may want to throw up, but eventually I got through it and then had a very bad time for the next couple of days. That seems to be the median experience. And that's a positive review. I know. That's funny.

Listen to this next line of this one. It took me a half hour to eat it. And I started eating at around three 30. I had to go to my neighbor's wedding this particular night. So I know. Well, whatever, man. Honestly, like weddings can be kind of boring and it's like kind of cool to hey spice it up a little bit okay you know what i'm saying everybody come on is it weird is it weird to invite your neighbors to

your wedding yeah it's like that is weird right i guess it depends like me they could be your friends but then wouldn't you just refer to them as friends then my friends wedding and not your they're my neighbors i don't really like them but i did invite them maybe it's the type of situation where there's like an open backyard you know and they were gonna be there anyway they're gonna do it in the backyard yeah yeah there that's what i'm saying and it's like okay this is gonna be awkward because they're always out on their lawn let's just invite they have that especially let's just invite that weird the drug guy next door like well fuck man last time we invited him he fucking was farting and shit from his nutmeg

yeah like the nutmeg head i mean this guy could have a wedding and have a nutmeg bar which is something that you could do wow oh wow Oh, wow. Even as I'm writing this, I am having trouble remembering what I did next. At 7 p.m. when the wedding started, I remember nothing much going on. My eyes felt weird and everything was kind of blurry. Nothing mental yet. During the wedding ceremony,

I was feeling really out of it. Every now and then we would stop to pray and the second I closed my eye was gone to another reality where I felt I could just sit there with my head down forever also when i closed my eyes and listened everything felt around me that's all i could best describe it by having you close your eyes and don't see anything just listen then when the sense of sight loses all meaning to you you'll get it so that is a good description but he goes well after the ceremony we went he's still trying to do it he's still close his eyes because he's still

trying to get the set i think i'm getting it guys i think i'm getting it what does it feel like oh it feels like i'm watching cartoons back here this is awesome oh yeah i believe them back here this is awesome oh yeah i believe them savior renegade angel is on this kicks ass well here he goes well after the ceremony we went to the reception to eat we had to walk down a hallway to get there and i was having major trouble walking the walk felt like a huge transcontinental journey that took forever i was quite happy and giggling a lot of the time after we sat down i got a glass of water because my mouth was feeling very dry i repeatedly got water the rest of the night also the cake i tried to eat was horrid okay oh now hang on um now so i i'm imagining this too i'm just imagining him just fucking sloshing around this wedding.

You know what I mean? Like smashing into people. I want it. Everyone's just like, Oh my God. Like, who is that guy? You know?

And he's like, like just an app. And he's fucking farting. Shitting. Shitting in the bathroom. So often then saying the cake's horrid like it's nutmeg it's horrid yeah dude it's are you kidding me you're still tasting the nutmeg that you ate with ice cream here's how to get me to not take any drugs saying that cake tastes bad after you take it what the fuck who's who's doing why would you ever do this yeah yeah that's a good point that cake was probably like 850 dollars and you're like

blah it tastes weird yeah it's got like an ashtray in your mouth delicious cake we came home at around 10 30 p.m i listened to the radio for a while which didn't produce any really weird stuff then a little later when, when I took my headphones... When I took off my headphones... You should have tried to turn on the grease, man. They would have loved that. If he was looking for the radio to produce any weird stuff. You know?

He would have loved that. Hold on. I'm getting it. Oh, you have your soundboard. Oh, fucking damn it soundboard Oh, I'm crying Fucking damn it The only one that's not The Grease Man I have like eight different ones here

I'll get a Grease Man on here Cough, plump, cough Yeah, I feel wacky today Extra wacky today That's what i'm talking about imagine if you heard that on nutmeg oh boy if you're a mag note if you're a fucking mag note and you heard that yeah okay oh my god i just nutted what about this one oh god damn it i don't want to hit the wrong one

um that's the experience right there of finally getting the sound the soundboard and having all your buttons in front of you and stuff like that it's pushing it and immediately going oh god damn it because that's exactly that's you're using it right that's what you're supposed to do yeah it takes you about like a good six months i think at least six years sometimes it takes you well for no for just a normal user i think it's about six months jesse so i laid down him so we came home at around 10 30 i listened to the radio for a while which didn't produce any weird stuff hello hey well actually i'm on my way out the door grease buddy we we love that clip jesse it's the saddest clip ever one of his super fans he's trying

to get out of phone conversation but the guy's a little too busy to talk to he was on his way out the door i didn't get out of here grease buddy wow um so he goes he goes i was everywhere it was everywhere no matter where i turned it was always the same spot i realized it was from the headphones and decided that that was pretty dang cool after lying down and listening to the radio some more i started peeking something i noticed is that i remember hearing things but i don't remember seeing them weird anyway i was getting kind of fed up with the whole thing because i was even his eyes closed sometimes you forget to open them back up and then you when you're hearing things that you're just not seeing things you try to pop your eyes open

so here's the here's his big thing but was impossible. I was very tired and wanted to sleep, but it was impossible because I would make these involuntary movements to the music. I'm going to explain this the best I can. My body parts had little levers attached to them with balls at the end. Imagine a stick with a ball at the end. These sticks went through a black wall above me and the balls were visible over my body,

but my body parts would move like my feet the lever above my feet would move too i started moving this way on purpose in the beginning but it got out of control i would think about moving every little beat moving to every little beat and my body would take over and start herky-jerky fashion uncontrollably moving it was quite fun for a while but then it started to grind on me. After that, I got up and went to the bathroom. What I found was that while I wasn't listening to the music anymore, I was still moving like that. Yeah, this sucks. I walked that way. I moved that way. I probably would have talked that way if someone would have said something to me.

It was pathetic. I managed to get to sleep though. I don't remember how the next day is like a giant smudge. I got up and I went to bed. I remember almost nothing about this day. Well, I remember having trouble walking and thinking, and I remember making two servings of lunch. I should note that during this whole time I was having bad, sharp stomach pains that would come and go. My mouth was dry. Also next time I went to leave reality and not remember it i'll take nutmeg that was a positive review he will do it again that was a positive review jesse yeah he he liked that all of that stuff he was describing he liked it and he thought it was good yeah um next drug i got over here is this is from ryan better dull pains you should know where they're at you know what I

mean this this is from Ryan and this is catnip um but Ryan and Ryan is a cat not a cat or it's a cat or well I would love to know what cat

makes cats feel like that would be worth reading. Yeah. Probably nowadays with the chat, you know, all that AI stuff. Oh, yeah. You can just ask it. It can't be far off, honestly, from being able to get a cat's view of the world, you know? Count me out. No, thanks.

You were saying you don't have dates on any of these right brian this one i do have a date for okay at nip one is 2003 is when this one happened wow well okay i i the reason i asked i just i wanted over there my own self to just see if when the most recent one was honestly the most recent one was uh literally today two have been posted today so people are still using this site yeah there's a lot of different ones on here some of your usual suspects mushrooms lsd mdma uh salvia then there's a bunch of like like chemical formulas which i think many of them are kind of like dmt or some different version of DMT. But I did see one about a guy who was, I think shoving Kratom up his ass.

Okay. That's not the way you do it though. Number one, number two. Uh, Oh no, sorry. I think it was DMT.

He was shoving up his ass with a toothpick. Okay. I don't like that. That doesn't seem the best way to do drugs. I'll send it to you. You can talk about it next time. It sounds like a lot of fun so this guy goes mine is a fairly normal story for illegal drugs i read about using catnip to get high on the internet and decided to try it for myself

that was about a year ago when i was pretty depressed and going through counseling oh no no which was worthless he the counseling was worthless oh little he hadn't found he's like what i needed was uh the catnip i've not i've not heard that catnip can get i didn't know that it was something people took it seems like so it helped a little and i managed to keep myself down to a couple joints of catnip every month or so until I no longer felt like I needed a lift every now and then. Fast forward to February 2003, the time of this writing. My teeth are in horrible shape, so I need an upper jaw spreader thing to make room to straighten them, and it hurts like crazy. I've been diagnosed with an active mono infection, probably had it for months. My back

hurts constantly. As for as long as I can remember, it's apparently something I'll grow out of eventually. I've been having panic attacks, and I'm on SSRIs for that, as well as Clarinex to keep my face and hands from swelling up like a human balloon. Jeez. All that and some relationship difficulties. Thankfully, mostly straightened out by now. I figured it was time to start up with the catnip again oh wait i thought you said that you i thought i'm sorry i'm sorry that like i don't want to that's that's actually mean of you brian to like force me to laugh at that

sentence because it is truly sad i feel for what that guy's dealing with but to end that with you know it's time to start up with the catnip again is pretty pretty funny based on the way that sentence was constructed i think that guy knew it was funny to say that there's come on you can't you can't write that and not think that's funny try to get up at nip horse again i smoked a little and experienced the usual soothing peaceful feeling of well-being it also dulled the pain in my teeth and back killed my stomach cramps that made me less hungry which was a real plus since my teeth have been killing me enough that i've been living on milk milkshakes breakfast drinks multivitamins and

painkillers for the past few days now number one i do want to say that like after reading that what if you did a little bit of catnip after you took the nutmeg? Right? Yeah, calm you down. And also, for him, it would be no problem. You could take it in a milkshake, nutmeg milkshake. It would be probably quite delicious. I do like the way he described what he was eating. Because he said, like, milk, milkshakes.

Those were the first two like and then he's just like oh shit i should like names eat he's like fucking blended drinks or whatever he started saying all this shit but like we know this motherfucker's just straight up drinking milk and milkshakes that's it he's on a liquid diet yeah yeah so he this is this is a teen by the way problem though or maybe a teen, by the way. Problem, though, or maybe a teen, somebody that lives with their parents. For sure. Problem, though, was the parents being home a lot of the times I felt like smoking.

My throat was also starting to really bug me. Probably the mono. Not the smoking. Push back on that a little bit. Probably the mono. It has to be the bottom i didn't have enough of the stuff left to waste it by making tea and that was kind of a lengthy process anyway so i decided why not snort the stuff um so no it's just hang on and now i'm starting to think is this person making a joking around i don't think

so because he's like i took a little put it in the middle of a piece of paper and crushed it all up by folding then squeezing it in the paper i picked out the bits of catnip that weren't reduced to powder and took it into the bathroom with me i was about to take a shower and i'd read a bit about using snuff and other such things and prepared myself for the worst as i snorted a pinch up my right nostril. Didn't burn at all, tickled a bit, actually, and didn't even make me feel like sneezing. I felt the effects after about three seconds, if that. I was a bit more alert, almost giddy, actually.

I snorted the rest, up to three more pinches, took my shower, dried off, and crumbled up some more, probably about eight pinches worth. That seems like a lot. It seems like so much. Isn't that a lot to go up your nose i mean i got i'm not a snorty guy yeah no and coke like a few times in my entire life um and wasn't fond of it um but just in terms of raw volume of stuff to go in your nostril it just seemed like even if you if you told me i snorted eight boogers i'd be like damn like i know that's where boogers go but shit that's like you run out of space man i haven't done any kind of drugs like that for a long time since i was way younger but yeah that does seem like quite a bit and i just want to be like where did he get the

information that you can even do that? Is that? Well, he said after snorting all that, my sinuses felt a little dry and uncomfortable, and I could feel some of the stuff dripping down the back of my throat. But as far as I could tell, the effects for me were comparable to smoking it, except that the feelings of tranquility and peacefulness were a bit less evident. The sensation of coolness was in my sinuses instead of my chest, and I seemed to be much more alert than i was before i also had the constant urge to sneeze which i managed to suppress duration was no different though about an hour or two so he basically did like the vicks vapo rub

thing on his nose yeah yeah we used to try to get high on vicks vapo vapo rub growing up though oh i okay so i said that from a medicinal point of view. I did not know that there were psychonauts out there attempting to trip off of Vicks. Well, okay. What was going on there? When you're a kid that loves drugs like I did, you just, I mean, you try every possible thing. You know, I snorted Pixie Stix, which I didn't think were going to do anything to me, but I thought it seemed cool to do. He says it also smelled considerably better.

Catnip smoke tastes and smells to me like a combination of a freshly freshly mown lawn and burning rubber. Not as unpleasant as it sounds. And I actually almost like it, but it's not something that i'd want to experience constantly no i actually like it i actually like the burning rubber smell and taste when i smoke it and actually i prefer it it makes it better i like when it drips down my throat that's my favorite part of the dripping rubber on my throat i like it i actually like it you the only problem is the only problem is is this mono. I can't get rid of it. The mono is fucking me up. Mono will do that.

He goes, if you've already tried catnip and liked it, but are looking for something faster than making tea and less conspicuous than smoking, I'd say go for snorting it. It probably won't completely replace smoking for me, but it's something different to try. That was a nice positive for that guy. Now, we we're gonna go to one that i have experience with guys okay here we go

i'm excited because yeah i've had no experience none of us have had any experience with any of these so far i can't speak to this stuff yeah this is a brian experience and this is uh titled repetitive pictures in my mind inhalantshalants, parentheses, gasoline. So when I was growing up, we we huffed a lot of gas, like a lot. Like when I was a teenager, you did. Oh, my God. You have no fucking idea how much gas I have. We used to go to this graveyard out in the middle of nowhere.

And with like five gas cans and stand, put the gas cans on one of the taller tombstones and huff and huff and huff and then take off running into this cornfield and try to tackle each other and did your doctor tell you to do that or where did you get like where did you get the advice where did you find out that that was a a fucking thing you could do like i'm always curious about that. I never, I want to think, like, I guess I probably did stupid things. Like, I huffed things.

Definitely never gasoline. But, like, when I was younger, I would, like, maybe paint or something like that. I tried, like, things around the house. You know what I mean? Like, stupidly, like, once. Never, never, like, it was never something I did regularly.

And we never did gasoline like do you remember how you how you like discovered it well this is like when we're like 12 after we've done we've we've smoked weed for the first time we've we've done lsd for the first time but when you're a 12 year old it's hard to get drugs yeah so we would go underneath the deck we had in the backyard and uh we would put a little gas in a cup we would keep the gas can out there too so you could huff out of the gas can people would huff out a lawnmower and like we would just kind of all be huffing out of the lawnmower and and and and who how many people are are involved in this jesse is like jesse jesse's

a father as i can't i can't be thinking about kids out there fucking breathing into a lawn i see the look on jesse's face right now as a father and i'm like seeing it like he's really really really upset by this um but but like how many people are out here doing this five or six at a time you know five or six and they're and they're like like you guys like one of you guys just has the idea to do that and you all just do it yeah me and all it was just like what the neighborhood kids did i guess so i guess it's the same as like the way we smoked weed or drank or whatever yeah or play basketball or kickball or any of that stuff like all this was all just what we did during the debt

brian is there is there which which of these do you say if any which of these youthful experiences or dalliances with drugs would you say you regret if any i probably shouldn't have that much gas okay that's what i was that's what I was getting at yeah I just I was wondering if maybe there was like a little bit of like saying it out loud like saying I I used to huff a bunch of gas out of a lawnmower if there was a part of you that was like oh maybe that was if I had if I had the ball back in my hands I'd flick it a different way this time there's one I regret only one like I've done quite a few drugs in my life as well but there is one thing i regret i will say and that is taking uh dxm i've heard

about this one being a particularly tough road which is dexamorthophenol i don't know how to dex it's what's in cough syrup basically but the reason that i regret it so much i've mentioned this publicly before is because i can't take cough medicine that has dxm in it it makes me feel fucking weird and it is the real only real good cough suppressant that we have come up with as a society and so not being able to take it when you have a really bad cough is uh is just a real well brian's got the same thing poor son of a bitch can't mow his own yard now yeah it is weird when you're standing when when i remember you know talking to people who would say like oh i'm a little weird i love the smell of gasoline and i do an idea how much i love the smell of gas yeah maybe you love it you're on a different level

yeah that reminds me of us there's a comedian named kevin fox who had a really funny joke he said like i used to think i was in a foot fetish like i have a foot fetish but i went online it turns out i have a foot interest anyway yeah this one has an arrow with note by the way, arrow would had to note this one. Our understanding of the literature literature is that there's no such thing as safe recreational use of volatile solvents, aerosols, and other street inhalants.

Their psychoactive effects are inseparable from nerve and organ damage. We have chosen to include these reports to help document the real world use of inhalants but their inclusion is not intended to imply that they're anything but dangerous so arrowids even like fucking these guys are not cool this is not good this is this does nerd this is bad for you i was wondering earlier if there was anything like that on here because there does seem to be quite a few things that are just straight up like hey just don't even mess with this one like don't but i'm well that's the first line of this is huffing gas

it never harmed me in any way that i can notice but it varies i've tuned all my perception to seeing if there's anything wrong with popping a bunch of so far so good so far so good yeah if you haven't tried this don't be a dumb ass and try it just go to a local druggie and buy some fucking weed okay yeah this is a good anyways on to the story i was visiting my friend who was visiting from indiana my cousin and i were talking to him about some previous experiences he told us he didn't have any Mary Jane, comma, he smoked it all, but he had something else. He went out to the building and came back in with a jug of gasoline. I'd heard of puffing gas before, but never thought about doing it. He began to huff and pass the jug to me and my cousin.

We all took a few hits and I started to feel a warm sensation. My body was becoming numb and felt warm and fuzzy. It was a good feeling. We continued to huff for about 10 minutes, almost nonstop. I realized at this point I was very high. Everything was distorted and echoing. Echoes are very common among gas hoppers. Let me tell you something from a gas hopper's perspective. We used to say it's like, it goes like this. Wah, wah, wah,

wah, wah, wah, wah, wah. That's what it sounds like in your brain. Don't need to be hearing that. That's for sure. Well,

yeah. And I just, what I picture when I think of huffing is headache. I just think of it giving you like a real headache and like a real like dizziness and like a bad feeling like that. Even if you weren't huffing gas, like if you were just huffing and puffing just like oxygen when you eventually you're still gonna be like that wasn't i didn't like that you know just oxygen so he goes uh all of a sudden i took a hit final hit and all of a sudden reality was altered we

were sitting outside the house at this point. My vision of the world shattered like a piece of broke glass. I turned my head towards my cousin and I still had the same image in my mind. No matter where I looked, I seen the same picture in my mind. At first I thought I was dying and started yelling to my friend. He assured me that it was normal and not to panic. I'm not sure how long it lasted but i

came back into my mind while lying in the grass face down my friend and cousin were lying around in a say in different places i also i went inside and went to bed and realized i was rapping this is something i never do i don't even like rap ah this sounds like a pretty chill experience to be honest it's just like yo i feel like i'm fucking dying and it's like no no this is this is normal this is part of it and then he's just like laughing and he goes my friends later told me it was very impressive by the way his rapping was his friend said he was good so it was good that was what i was gonna ask so it was like he had bars you're saying like it wasn't that's very

impressive they're calling him kid gas and he's burning up the freestyle charts oh the freestyle charts oh my god the freestyle you don't remember it no you don't remember you don't really remember you weren't there he goes i did it in the future and passed out my driveway where my mother found me it is very i don't like hearing that aspect of it that's you don't like the idea of uh mom finding her slumped body of her child reeking of gasoline driveway you know i mean i'm trying to drive here i have a story right so my brother it's not called the pass out way no it's not oh i want to finish this i'll tell you this story uh

it is very addictive and makes me smell rather unpleasant even recently when i passed the gas jug i want to take a few hits uh parentheses i usually don't though gas can be a big hassle in my life and cause lots of problems and that's like the end that was a 2000 let's get this man a tesla so many americans i was gonna say have that same issue gas being a hassle of their life and causing them problems you ain't lying so uh when i was growing up my brother and his friends were were sitting in a car huffing butane out of uh um the the butane you get for a zippo lighter yeah and we're out there huffing it they're all fucked up and having a good time and they got the windows rolled up in the car one of them fucking pulls out a cigarette and goes to light it and a fireball goes

yeah and and burns all three of them they got really badly burnt and uh my brother ran in the house and told my parents i was huffing butane out in front of the house and somebody lit a cigarette and blew up the other two guys lied to their parents and one of them was like i was trying to mow my friend it was one o'clock in the morning when it happened i was trying to mow my friend's lawn and something weird was going on and gas got in my face and then the other one i don't remember his lie but i just remember being like your parents know that you were huffing gas so huffing gas was a known thing to around like it was known that kids did that yeah we'd already been caught by our i see because i was gonna say like it wouldn't

really come to the mind like in my neighborhood growing up it wouldn't have been like oh you were probably huffing gas there would be another explanation maybe that would be like something was up but it wouldn't be huffing gas specifically no if i were the parent sound asleep at 1 a.m in his bed in this situation i would have to go on like a monk slash poker face style recreation of events to figure out what the fuck happened you said you were in your car like i there's no way i'd be able to put it well there's the butane lighter was found at the scene i'm not putting this together for like an hour it'd be nice if you had that charlie you know if you were like charlie you could just tell if your kid was lying right away.

Just ask him flat out the questions. Well, I've told them that I do have that. That's hard. That is actually really good. So I don't, but I did tell him. So the next thing, this is the last one, I think is the last one we're going to do here. And this is diamond hydronate which is uh commonly known to people as dramamine i don't i don't i don't know we got one i got experience with let's

go wait a second wait so what is this one why why do you have exp what is it what is it's um like as it obviously has a real world practical oh yeah you could say that before jesse goes this is the most jesse drug you could ever possibly oh yeah you pop a couple of these my man you won't be feeling motion sick on the airplane at all oh i see i see smooth sailing i see i was it's so funny that it's just like oh shit okay so jesse isn't isn't as fucking square as we thought he was okay like and then it turns out he's way more i'm not square it's just sometimes when like i'm in a vehicle that's moving kind of fast and i'm not driving it it sometimes messes it makes me dizzy i gotta

throw up i want to straight out my vision jesse's all about getting more like i need to be more in control and grab the fucking wheel i mean jesse's not i will say having met jesse in real life jesse like i feel like you've come you like try to come off as more square or something because you meet you you're not actually you're actually quite cool well i'm not like a weirdo you know but i do but i do have predilections i guess when it comes to how i spend my free time yeah you know not really hanging out and doing drugs more like sitting on the computer so i guess we're referring to you as square is just like the fact that you don't do drugs yeah in that case yeah and too yeah right that like you used to drink and it's like oh well that's normal and at least that was fun yeah at

least that was cool remember when you used to drink i know you were less healthy and stuff and you know like i mean yeah sure you look a million yeah you look great you look fucking fantastic your goddamn skin glows now and you can really see it in your eyes that you just truly love life but i mean it was fucking you know before you were like you're at least you were a fucking good time it was more fun it was more fun for the people around me yeah and honestly i never even spent time with you so it wasn't a matter of like it was just like i liked the idea of you being drunk just the perception of it just the perception of you being drunk made me feel more at ease with my decisions and i gotta i gotta apologize for that that's something i'm working on

you know yeah it's cool i don't drink either i quit drinking so i feel a bit bad actually i haven't had a drink since 2006 so well i'm trying to think when mine mine would have been i guess no after that probably like 2014 or something like that well i mean i wasn think when mine mine would have been i guess no after that probably like 2014 or something like that but i mean i wasn't like a massive drinker i just stopped when i started stand-up comedy i graduated high school in 2006 so that i was hey i was i was starting to you know that's when i brian stopped i grabbed the torch from there and i said i'll take it from here pal i got you for the next whatever what's the most beer you ever drank in one day, Jesse? Honest, honest.

Don't do one of your little bullshit fucking little funny little answers. Like, what's the real? I finished one beer. Yeah. I don't know, man. That's a good question. Were you a 12-pack? Like, would you, when you were partying with your friends, get a 12-pack?

I was a 12-pack. 12-pack of Molson Canadian bottles, oftentimes, actually. Wow. Yeah, we would... It just depended on the day, I guess, because we would definitely do the thing where we had the bottle of vodka in the freezer. That was typically a fifth, and that would get polished off, I guess. But then we would do the thing...

I remember we did the... I don't know what you guys call it but you you take you drink some beer you take a sip of beer every 30 seconds or every minute or something for an hour or whatever it is yeah yeah there's like something like i remember doing that with like a rack of milwaukee's best and that was horrible um but also at the time it was very novel to be able to go into a gas station and get 40 ounce bottles of malt liquor. So you would drink a couple of those. Yeah, we drank those early on. I want to say to Sleeman's Honey Brown Lager is actually I drank a lot of Canadian beer.

Sleeman's. Yeah, it was a 12 pack of that. But I think that the most beer we used to do heroic amounts of beer when we would go to my friend's cabin in America, like just don't point Roberts. It's called. So it's like this weird little it's it's in Canada. You know what I mean? Like it's a part of Canada. But for some reason, America has it.

And we just wanted it. So, yeah, you guys just wanted it. And so you took it. Alaska and Hawaii, you know. But yeah, the that we go down there and we would just like go and buy so many beers and drink so because it was it was like less than Canadian beer like oh yeah you know it was like whatever watered I don't know the reason why but you could drink way more of it yeah and we would drink 30 35 beers in a day oh I had a buddy that first of all mine's really

embarrassing because I did I never drank beer because uh i i didn't like the flavor of it so like the the i remember i i when i started drinking when i was like 21 when i was like able to order drinks the only drink i really knew that i could keep down was one that i had at a bar on the first night and it was sex on the beach so everywhere i went i would go up to the bar and be like can i get a sex on the beach and obviously if you're at a like i was at a corn concert once and i was like y'all got a sex on the beach back there and they were like no we got a blow job in the stall you know some real fucking hardened fucking metal bar purple hooters i was i like purple but all the drinks i liked were like specialty drinks

you have to go to bartender school to know what they are and how to make them so i would get them different every time and that's kind of basically why i quit drinking because the only other drink i ever found that i liked was uh uh kalua uh yeah that's it that's thick and heavy that is such a bizarre set of drinks to like but it's just very brian so yeah i just want to be clear as well when we drank 30 to 35 beers we were throwing up over the side of the deck i mean we weren't handling it it wasn't like we were like heroic like oh man we can drink i mean you were essentially blacked out after the first dozen probably and just having having actual vomiting competitions oh yeah we're throwing

up and trying to like get bigger piles over on the side of the uh deck yeah yeah so this one says the airway note on this one is the dose described in this report is very high potentially beyond arrowwood's heavy range and could pose serious health risks or result in unwanted extreme effects sometimes extremely high doses reported are errors rather than the actual doses used so there's what they're saying here is we are sort of doubting that this person actually took this amount yeah that's what i read from that that like hey sometimes these people are actually saying making a mistake yeah last week i bought a box of dramamine containing 30 pills 50 milligram diamond hydronate each yesterday i decided to take

them and see what would happen not i decided to take a couple of pills i bought a box of 30 pills and i decided to take them all and that could sound like bullshit but i remember buying many things like bottles of many things at the gas station before i went to school in ninth grade and just taking a whole fucking bottle and just being fucked up all day not one of those one of those i don't know they're like an asthma thing that acts like as it's kind of like speed they i don't exactly remember i don't know what they were but we used to get them before we went to school i'll look them up because they were like we would take like a whole bottle of them uh because they were like they would say they were

speed um they're like gas station speed brian can i can I say that it's pretty impressive that you don't take a lot of drugs now. Yeah, it is. It really is. Hearing the stories of the sort of stuff that you were doing when you were younger. Just outright debauchery, yeah. Debauchery. And I similarly, maybe not to that degree, but yeah, I think it is quite impressive because I think a lot of people continue along that. Yeah, kudos to Brian. Less miserable than I was when i was doing a lot of fucking i mean that

is a huge thing about it that you have to realize about drug use and stuff like that to be serious for one moment is that it is fun to do and especially if you're doing in a fun way but when it's happening so often it is often a good idea to maybe get to the root of why it is you feel the need to always be taking drugs. Because for me personally, I've found that when I'm feeling the need to always take drugs is because I am not dealing with some serious things that are going on in my life. And it always feels better to,

you know, get that dealt with and then, you know, chill out every now and then, you know, once a week, take a couple of mushrooms and watch a movie and just do it in a fun way you know well this guy has the set and the setting and the dosage so he said the set i was bored stressed out after a long day at work and i was filled with hate for everything that's the set that tracks

okay so yeah he's not hiding the fact that this is at a low point for him so this yeah this doesn't really feel like a trip that much maybe feels a little bit more like the the other thing as as well yeah of course dramamine can be very therapeutic especially if you're feeling kind of nauseated you have to get on like a incredible hulk themed roller coaster because your wife wants to go on it or whatever you're like i don't know if i can make it through this babe and you know just pop a couple and but i what i'm what i want to say about dramamine is is one one reason i'm thinking that there's just some clues as to whether or not this is a real trip right so he says what did he say bottle and 30 pills box i think it's a box or bottle yeah because it is a box it's a box okay yes because i have in my house to not to take like all the time but right i have one of the boxes of 50 pills

of dramamine specifically yes it comes in like blister packs instead of in a bottle you buy the little thing the little bottle that's like eight or twelve yeah you're telling me you got a full fucking you gotta tell me you got a full dram sack at your house you got a little fucking fun later brother you better be careful saying that on here people might know where you live and come you know do a smash and grab on your dramamine so that's a big thing nowadays i mean here's the thing i have a a tin in my kitchen of research chemistry that uh somebody gave me when i was out on tour that i haven't even fucked with they have names like 2cb and shit like that and i i told my friend i was like i guess if you want some of these you can have them uh the guy told me only

to take one i gave him three and he took all three of them and said it was the most terrifying experience i might even toss that in the garbage i might even not there that i would think i might do someday you know yeah i just let it fire let her well there's i think there's a half-life probably but i would just dump it you know down the toilet um but the the one thing i want to say about dramamine is if this guy really one thing i want to say about dramamine is if this guy really knows his stuff he would know that dramamine first of all typically doesn't come in that huge of an amount most of the time you see it in the smaller travel size portion but if you do get the big one it is in the blister pack so inconvenient to use in mass yeah but also they're they're tablets they're not pills now, that's a difference. You know the difference between tablets and capsules and pills.

Those are different things. So if you're really ensconced in the drug lingo, as so many of us are, you might be called a fool for saying, I'm taking a Dramamine pill. You say, what's a pill? I've never heard of a Dramamine pill. I've heard of a Dramamine tablet. I don't know. Listen, Jesse, I had a massive pill problem and

it's such a you know the capsule is the thing where you can like open it up and there's powder inside yeah and then there's like the the gel the gel is different right then the pill the pill is like can i be honest yeah pill pill covers all of them as far as the lay person the lay person is concerned they're just like they just see a thing that yeah with the water that's all i'm saying is this guy's a dramamine rookie okay he doesn't okay this guy this guy jesse is like getting he's like you don't know shit about drama he's getting offended at this guy's like lack of knowledge about drama when it comes to the drama this guy he doesn't know he's not he's not worth he's not worth drama alert drama alert hey this guy jesse is what is a guy he's what he is basically an erwin like we're seeing it right here he is one of these guys

so he goes first i took four pills and waited some 30 minutes absolutely nothing then i took two more pills and waited some 30 minutes again again, nothing. I ended up repeating this process of taking two pills at a time and waiting until I would notice any effects. In the end, I ingested 1500 milligrams of this shit in total. I took all 30 of the pills and only felt somewhat heavier and a little drunk, probably because I was drinking some vodka. I was frustrated and angry that nothing out of the ordinary was happening so i gave up and went to sleep i woke up in the middle of the night feeling nauseous which that's a little bit fucking weird to me right like there should be nothing that could attack you nausea wise after that much yeah it's that's a real It's the one thing you shouldn't have to worry about.

And I didn't have enough time to reach the bathroom, so I puked on my bedroom floor. It was too dark to see anything, and I felt very heavy and disoriented. So I decided that I would clean it up in the morning. Then I went back to sleep. That is, I have never. Well, it'll dry up a bit, too. And some of it you can just sort of, you can the flakes or whatever you can just sweep it I woke up in the morning feeling weird while I was getting up I looked down and saw a small pool of black goo splattered on the floor

I was shocked what the fuck was that then I remembered that I had to puke during the night and came to realize that the black goo was my vomit i was even more shocked and disgusted why did i puke some disgusting black goo what was in that i had no idea so i grabbed a small tool that looks like a trowel and proceeded to take small samples of the vomit to look closer and try to what it was i smelt it it had a very sweet but also very sickly smell it's vomit like that always has the sickly smell. Didn't you have to get up and do something the next day? You're picking apart

your vomit and looking at it under a microscope? What are you doing? He did have to. He had to do something the next day. He had to fucking analyze his fucking black cube. What's going on with this dude? You had to fucking do it, man. It was one of the most disgusting things I had ever seen. Eventually, I finished cleaning the

floor and to this day i have absolutely no idea what that was i stumbled into the living room feeling very heavy and spaced out suddenly i look into the other bedroom where i keep the litter box of my cat and there he was sitting next to the litter box i found it strange that he was looking directly at me in the eyes i walked closer to the bedroom door and kept looking at him. He didn't move or blink. He seemed paralyzed. If you own a cat, you probably know that cats don't maintain eye contact with someone for a prolonged period of time. They always tend to look somewhere else, then look back at you. That I don't know. I don't. That's not true. I have a cat. They'll look at you. They'll stare at you for a long time. My cat does all the time, especially if they want something, if they need something like my cat will literally, if my cat needs to get fed, my cat will sit there and stare at me in like the most awkward and weird way.

Like just standing there statuesque for an hour if I don't do anything. Yeah. So this is, that is false. Well, he says he was absolutely not doing this. And for whatever reason, his eyes were making an expression of hatred. And then in parentheses, he says like a human when you're fear didn't you didn't feed him he needed to be fed arrowwood's lawyers have determined that this is not an accurate statement as to the behavior of most typical domesticated house cats please proceed at your own risk i the cat needed to be fed and the cat or or needed its litter box cleaned or maybe i mean it's he might be i hope

he's not like if this were like a joke or whatever like a silly story i would think he's building up to the fact that he ate a bunch of cat shit out of the litter box oh yeah that'd be funny i don't think yeah let's see cats don't fucking do that animals don't do that but there he was looking directly at me deep in my eyes and emitting anger and hatred and loathe towards me. Suddenly I felt a horrible shiver down my spine. It even reached the back of my head. I was extremely shocked by my cat's expression. I called him, put food in his bowl. He didn't move. He was fucking petrified. When I tried to get closer to him, he kept following me with this demonic eyes. I was so scared I screamed at him.

He ran into the bedroom, still following me with his hateful eyes. This went on for maybe 30 minutes until I was too tired to try to understand what was going on. I live by myself, but I felt his hatred towards me, and his hatred started spreading all over my apartment. I felt like everything hated me and was angry at me for whatever reason. I felt like everything hated me and was angry at me for whatever reason. This does feel, I mean, you have late onset hallucination. I mean, this kind of seems like maybe this did do something to you. I don't even, and it also seems like, it seems like he also has serious, like he has real serious issues that he's dealing with right now of like self-worth issues and stuff.

And this really seems like a real, he's in a real dark place in general and whatever he's doing is just kind of exacerbating is already i just wouldn't take all that many pills if i was in that i mean i did take a lot of pills when i was in a rough spot in my life but that's what i was thinking but i'm just thinking man like that's why there's like a real sadness to not to sort of try to be sad i think it's like a real sad one though because it's like that kind of i don't give a fuck man i'll fucking take whatever pills whatever happens i don't even fucking care that's what i kind of get from this guy you know he said i felt like complete shit shivers kept going down my spine and i started feeling like mosquitoes were biting me all the time that's when i started noticing some very small black dots on the living room floor.

I knelt down, looked closer, and realized that the little black dots were actually dark red and they had legs. They looked exactly like minuscule ticks. Then I remembered I had read somewhere that seeing spiders and other bugs was very common. Then I was absolutely sure the drug was indeed working, and I quickly started to regret having consumed 1,500 milligrams of that shit because suddenly i started feeling a weird rush through my body i felt like i was about to faint so i laid down on my bed and started breathing deeply like it wasn't an automatic thing as if i had to actively control my breathing trying to calm down

that's happened to me in the past by the way on drugs where where you're thinking, I have to breathe. But it's an autonomic process, not necessary. But yeah, I was about to call an ambulance because I thought I was going to die. I started seeing black dots all over my bed, and when I looked closer, they were those fucking ticks. I got up terrified,

went to the living room. The demonic cat of Satan was there, paralyzed, emitting his utter hatred towards me. The more I maintained eye contact with him, the more demonic he appeared. It was truly hell. I was extremely paranoid, started hearing faint voices, seeing things out of the corner of my eyes. Some objects had walls around the apartment, had some objects and walls around the apartment had this very weird, jagged, transparent

outlines, which would start shaking uncontrollably. The more I focused on them, everything that happened sent me into some paranoid state as I believe the apartment had now some extremely demonic presence. Like every single object was now emitting hatred towards me. I felt like I went to sleep in the normal dimension and woke up in an alternate dimension and I was begging for it to end i was never so scared of my entire life by the way i'm 30 years old if i could describe this experience using only three words i would definitely said hatred hell and nightmare wow fun and what a fun episode it was folks thanks for uh tuning in uh let me give you a funny one real quick uh this is i mean so wait wait i just want

to like so this is a known thing if you take this drug like other people like this isn't just some like weird like this is like you take this drug he said he read about seeing ticks and and spiders and bugs yeah yeah yeah yeah all this stuff is stuff he write about and so he knew that was what the experience was going to be and to tell you the truth if you look up dramamine they will all have like stories like this so it is lightest of them so so that's really terrifying because presumably that's like like jesse's talking about like people take that you know what i mean obviously all the time one or two but think about like just the idea of people being so nervous

and thinking it's not working and then just taking a little bit too much of it and then the side effects being like that. In this case, I would call them side effects for that particular user. I think that would be truly fucking terrifying if you had no sort of concept of that. You weren't trying to do it.

So what is the level that you would have to take? I'm reading this on on a reddit comment which reddit is very similar to arrow it except for perhaps a little bit more reliable uh user geology sucks 11 years ago says 50 milligrams isn't enough to cause delirium by the way the the normal tablets that are in the travel size container of the non-drowsy dramamine formula are 25 well 25 yeah yeah you have to use the drowsy because that that makes you go to sleep feels better anyways 25 um it says 50 isn't enough um i felt a little bit uh my eyes were more sensitive to light and i was pretty out of it but i never hallucinated when i was taking 50 every few hours people who use dph which is the um the active ingredient in dive yeah diphenhydramine um are taking are usually

taking around a thousand milligrams okay so they're the threshold the like difference between that is it's large enough that it wouldn't be happening to regular people you would have to go out of your way to do it okay that's good 30 or 40 times what you're supposed to take okay i'm glad to hear that here here's the last one since that one was scary this is the last one this is one i also have experience with so uh this sounds odd but seriously did happen so i was at my friends at my house and a friend of mine and i both had pink eye later on that night we were having some people over they were doing whatever inside when we decided to go out back and huff some glade i had done it a couple of times sorry sorry sorry hey you want to fucking plug in like yeah what kind of glade glade's got a few different products the aerosol can we used to

have glade sometimes it was like the aerosol can okay uh because it's better to huff glade really than like don't say no there's nothing you can't finish the sentence in any real oh no he's saying that then like then like what then because the other stuff with the aerosol like hairspray yeah or like or what a whipped cream would be the yeah they all smell bad like not the whipped cream not the whipped cream that's a good point that is a good that's why the whipped cream ones are the most popular that's what people would really whip it's you know using the the whipped cream so he says i had done it a couple of times prior in the months before thought though not with pink eye so we huffed the glade got high went inside and to our surprise within 20 minutes we both noticed

that our eyes were totally better no pus no red oh this was like the second day into having it too nonetheless it was strange i proceeded to email the glade company and tell them about it only to receive a reply suggesting that i seek rehabilitation also giving me contact numbers for doctors so uh that was in uh boy and then that so the official stance on this podcast guys uh is that glade cures pink eye so if you have pink eye please huff glade i'm not i'm not saying that i i'm not co-signing on that at all official stance of guys a podcast about guys is that Glade cures pink eye. Huff it all up, baby. You can't say that stuff. You're not allowed to say that.

You're going to take off a Spotify. What? Okay. Well, that's misinformation. It's all parody and satire on this show that's all we do jesus christ that is arrowig guys hopefully we'll be back with more arrowig guys someday i think they're pretty fun to deal with i think you've been canceled and taken off the web after your stand yeah you're glad arrowwood's been around since two whenever and there they have it on there you need a you need a you need a you need a guy's lawyer to say none nobody do anything any of these guys do and where

you need a legal yeah well most of the guys are harmless you know like it's not like dangerous to be like a guy that goes to sex resorts i don't even know if that's true brian i don't know if it's dangerous i don't even know if that's true oh my god all right that was very fun that was arrowhead guys uh chris james is the CJS. Not even a show. Jesse is Bronzehammer and does YKS and the Go Off Kings. That's your Kickstarter sucks. That was horrible branding. Thank you. I thought you meant our show. I was like, you're not wrong.

No, you got the best show. It is what it is. Thank you. And we're going to say this now again. Don't have Glade unless you have Pink Eye. No. Don't do it is thank you and and we're gonna say this now again don't huff glade unless you have pink eye no don't do it even if you do i guess we're only joking that was parody all right see you next week with dave navarro wait