Guys: With Bryan Quinby - Guys: Episode 43 - Hip Christian Guys with Tom Sexton

Episode Date: December 5, 2023

This is the episode that the patrons picked, it seemed like it would be easy to do until I had an actual crisis of confidence and decided that it would not be fun to make fun of young christians so he...re is what i did, we made fun of old youth pastors and met some real characters. How does a groupy for Wang Chung make you think of Christ? How is masturbation a cool tool for the lord? How does a man of god walk with swagger You know Tom, he is twitter.com/thetrillbillies and patreon.com/thetrillbillies and he is my friend and cohost of Holy Boyz which you could search my patreon and listen to every episode There is much more Chris at youtube.com/noteveashow and twitter.com/notevenashow and of course https://www.patreon.com/notevenashow And for more Guys content, streams and SHOCKTOBER: a deep dive into shock jocks you can click patreon.com/murderxbryan twitter.com/murderxbryan and twitch.tv/murderxbryan

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to Guys, a podcast about guys. Hallelujah. guys hallelujah it's me the last episode of this run before i go to fucking alaska which i'm already back from and have been back from for two weeks by the time this thing comes out i am brian and i have christian chris chris chan is that an insult i know that's a person. Oh, yeah. I don't think that person's beloved. What? No, I just, I guess we're doing my name, of course. You know, getting around it. My name is of, it means of the Lord, Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:00:56 That's where it comes from. And I'm feeling very religious today, Brian. Well, and there's only one guy that we talk about this stuff with, and that is Tom Sexton. What's up, Tom? Otherwise known as Doubting Thomas Sexton for our Bible heads out there. So me and Tom have come close to this. We really tiptoed up to the line the last Holy Boys we made because we talked about some of the metalcore bands,
Starting point is 00:01:18 and we talked a little bit about Teen Steam, which when I told people, remember when we told I, we were like, we're going to do it. I'm going to do an episode about teen steam and everybody made it seem like we're doing an episode about porno. It sounds, it does sound kind of dirty or whatever.
Starting point is 00:01:37 I don't know why, but it does. It's an insane thing to call your ministry. I think. Yeah. And that's what this episode's about right like so i made some rules you know every once in a while an episode comes out i'm gonna make some rules for for myself as i'm prepping it one of the so my daughter goes to the ohio state university and there is a thing there called life life way life way i think something like that it's a a youth christian group and she goofs on them all the fucking time and uh they i mean ohio state campus is lousy with them it started there
Starting point is 00:02:22 so it's this like youth group. And then there was a thing called Xenos that is like a cult that separated off from them. And which, by the way, I was listening to this podcast about the Xenos. It's these young teenagers and like 21 year olds and they drink beer and they smoke cigarettes and stuff like that and smoke weed. And then they'll invite you over to their house. Like you want to come over and party, you know, and you've been around them smoking cigarettes and stuff like that. You get over there and they spring a Bible study on you right when you're done eating,
Starting point is 00:02:54 which is the coolest thing you can do to people. I got a question. Is that like, is it like a bait and switch? Like they drop it like, hey, we don't really live like that. That was just to reel you in. Or do they continue to like? No, they continue to party still. Oh, you just party, but it's Bible party.
Starting point is 00:03:13 Yeah. Well, I've never been to Bible study. I think something we'll tell the people first. Tom has been to Bible study. I've never been. Chris? I think I went to church when I was a kid and so I don't know that I went to Bible study I went to like a United Church or something like that you know I
Starting point is 00:03:31 don't even know like a Christian church of some kind and so I went to like Sunday school and stuff but I don't think that I did an actual Bible study what what is it like can you explain what it would be so I can maybe remember if I did? Well, it's almost if you've ever been part of a book club, it's almost like that. But for the book. Yeah, for the only book. You know what I mean? You pick a little chapter and verse out of there and then we do a little meditation on it and we talk about it and thoughts and then hors d'oeuvres are served. That's how they trick you.
Starting point is 00:04:00 That's the insidious thing about church. And I'm going to tell you, the Mormons did this to me. During my dalliance with Mormonism, that's how they ruled me in. Mormons did this to me. I didn't have a day. So what happened was I have this buddy who is Mormon, but kind of just set on Mormon. And I was 11 years old or something.
Starting point is 00:04:23 So nobody knows what aon is when they're 11 unless they're a fucking mormon you know this dude seemed really cool he like dressed cool and he was he's still a person that i'm friends with now you know what i mean so it wasn't like he was some dork or anything like that so he's like you guys want to come and stay at my house we can camp out back in a tent that sounds cool when you're 11 that's like honestly one of the coolest propositions you can get like sleeping outside i love it and i had probably i had already started smoking cigarettes and stuff like that so it was just like whoa that's perfect for you because when you're outside sleeping you can just hack one no problem you know do it in the tent maybe but also when you're outside sneaking out is much easier
Starting point is 00:05:12 oh yeah you can go wherever you could go to a like a different where would you go at 11 just out of curiosity running around the neighborhood we go to the gas station and buy some some pepsi and we go running around the fucking neighborhood knocking on doors and running. Little Nicky Nicky Nine Door. It's a different name where I'm from, but you're not like you can't say that anymore. Is that
Starting point is 00:05:36 what it is? I thought it was like New York Knicks knocking. I didn't know it was the bad. Oh, yeah. Is it? Oh, really? No, I didn't think well listen i certainly me and chris ever just called it that like purely purely like that was just the name of it it was like known as that and everything including popular culture and stuff you know so that's very that's very surprising to me to find out i mean hopefully people aren't mad at me for saying it it's that
Starting point is 00:06:02 you didn't do anything where i'm, they called it N-word knocking. Oh, I see. They used the actual word. Oh, yeah. I see. I see. That's a lot where I come from. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:06:13 I got you. I understand. Well, yeah, that is a fun, I mean, a fun act. Did you ever do the poop? Did you ever put poop on someone's doorstep? Nah. No. None of us, I think, felt maybe didn't feel like
Starting point is 00:06:25 pooping very much. You know what I mean? Weren't like big poopers. You get dog poo, you weirdo. It's not like that. It's like somebody floated that and Brian was like, now listen, we're not a big group of poopers here. We're not going to be. We're not going to crap into a bed.
Starting point is 00:06:49 That's disgusting. I mean, either way, it is a disgusting terrible. We did it one time, I remember, in my youth. You know, I think it was probably after we saw Billy Madison, most likely. But, yeah, we did it. And it actually worked. Like, we guys stomped it out. He got poop on his shoe it was a it was a
Starting point is 00:07:06 resounding success so we got back at uh christine hilton our middle school teacher who we called christine hitler because it's just it was just right there you know nowadays you could just say christine hilton then it would still you know what i mean yeah and it would still, you know what I mean? Yeah, and it would still ring some bells. We put a, we got a, we got a condom and just started collecting, like, bad shit, including a dead frog on the way to her house, and then we, like, we nailed it to her door like Martin Luther
Starting point is 00:07:36 doing that. We'd had enough. That is so menacing. You imagine her just laying in bed just hearing that knocking and they come and founding that oh my goodness with a dead like any anytime there's a dead animal in there of any kind even if it's small there's a certain menacing element to that you know what happened though was like so when you're in fifth and sixth grade people will tell you that going to church is really fun you basically play basketball and you uh get to eat candy and food i love basketball and i love
Starting point is 00:08:14 candy and i love food i mean exactly the second of those the more my mormon friend this is like a payoff right like so this is like all right i assume i'll get to go to this this play basketball and eat food and like get treats and stuff like that if i go to church and that that in my head that was all we did you know and then we got there and it was just i mean i don't know how long the service was. It was a bit too dry for you. Well, I've talked about this a few times. They had the remote control was an old game show. They had the board game version of remote control.
Starting point is 00:08:55 And I loved that show. I loved it, too. I loved remote control as well. Yeah. It was so important to me. I loved it. And I thought we were playing the board game remote control. I was like, this is going to fucking rule.
Starting point is 00:09:07 I am going to destroy everybody in this Sunday school. But they changed the rules to Bible questions, and I just fucking lit up. Oh, did I ever? But anyway, there was no candy or anything like that. And then I just never went back because I never went back to church again ever on a Sunday because of the sort of lack of candy. Candy.
Starting point is 00:09:27 Yeah. And you just thought to yourself, I'm going to spend a lot more time in the grocery slash convenience store, you know, where they got ample candy, where I could just get as many king size caramel as I want. Your friend tell you, like, listen, Brian, it's not always going to be candy and basketball. Yes. No, he kind of turn you off to the idea i think he wanted me there he never even said that to him brian just realized himself that like there there's no basketball nobody even has a ball there's no hoop unless your mormon friend was jimmer for debt oh yeah he was he was a mormon wasn't he which is so i i'm a i'm you know 11 or 12 when this happens and uh it it was like it really changed everything so i i really didn't go back ever so the idea i didn't want to make fun of teenagers who probably got tricked into going you know what i mean yeah like i like i i understand i i hesitate to and i mock people
Starting point is 00:10:34 and make fun of people a lot and i do hesitate to make fun of and mock younger people because i think when i was that age how ignorant i was to so many things and i think it is important to allow people to fully develop their point of view before you attack it i mean there's some you know allowances at all that all depends how annoying looking the kid is you know there's some that you really want to but yeah i i do tend to i think that's a good call, Brian, to not be making fun of these teenagers who are all involved in church in whatever way. Well, I mean, you sort of almost like they're forced, really. It isn't the parents. So what I did look for when I was looking for the hip Christian guys was youth pastors, which is something I never got to meet a youth pastor in the traditional sense of the word
Starting point is 00:11:26 the the guy with the hair that you know sits down in front of kelvin from the righteous gemstone yes but like exactly and of course what key what's the other guy's name keith yeah keith as well he's he's consistent youth pastor as well i just want want to give him full credit. But Tom, have you just, sorry, but Tom, have you ever had like a youth pat? Like are you familiar with these people in your life at all? Well, in my own life, not so much the church that I kind of grew up in, but I went to friends churches during the sort of Christian boom of the early aughts, you know, where these figures did exist,
Starting point is 00:12:06 including a guy who moonlighted as a youth pastor, who was also the local hairdresser who was not to, you know, be sort of crass about this, but this man was clearly fighting the tide of his own sexuality. And it was, you know, yeah. It was one of those deals, you know not not dissimilar to our friends on righteous gemstone was he rockabilly was he rockabilly by any chance but i just say that because a lot of them no he wasn't that's too bad no he was not rockabilly
Starting point is 00:12:36 did he ever say like hey baby so you gotta understand i'm from the like the home of that unironically yeah like i got cousins that are just rockabilly not because it's a put on but because they're like never got out of the 1950s oh yeah we know people i mean listen i met somebody online who's like that he doesn't like me very much and sort of my ignorance on rockabillies but the guy we're looking at right now brian i am intrigued my friend i'll tell you what he does not look like a pastor as far as i'm concerned he looks a little bit too cool to be a pastor he kind of looks like a cool guy you might see at a bar or
Starting point is 00:13:15 something have a drink with you know he looks like a guy that was in like uh like um like a band like stained in the early 2000s and the years have not been kind to him, but they're going on tour again. That's the fucking thing. All these guys are like 42 years old. I don't think there are a lot of famous youth pastors in their 20s. I guess maybe you kind of have to be at it for a while
Starting point is 00:13:44 to be a guy that goes on the road. Get a little life experience under your belt before you impart it to the youth. Yeah, like a stand-up comedian, the same sort of thing. It is hard. You have to build your chops a little bit before you can hit different cities. Just to paint a picture for everyone, he has a flat br um raiders hat on that is sort of turned sideways and with a black t-shirt ripped jeans and full sleeve tattoos sort of a bigger guy um yeah look bald-headed looking guy so we're also seeing a wallet chain oh yes we are seeing a wallet folks
Starting point is 00:14:20 we have confirmed a wallet chain on the pastor well let's check into kelly k this is our guy um let's let's take a look in my church and during the afternoons what i like to do is just go to my church and just walk through the sanctuary and pray i do this every single day around 10 a.m and i'm doing that and i'm praying and i heard god as loud as day it was i'm not saying it was audible but man it might as well have been. It was so clear. And this is what God said to me. He said, pack your bags, get ready to go.
Starting point is 00:14:51 When they call, say yes. I was like, excuse me? He said, pack your bags. Little laugh there. Got a little laugh. Who is it? The laugh is tough for these guys. These guys have a tough time okay the last one the last one for these guys these guys have a tough time getting
Starting point is 00:15:06 the laughs well you know what yeah because they are kind of when you're doing that cool thing part of that is definitely humor i feel like like from what i've seen that kind of when you're trying to be hip or whatever one way that you can convey that to a younger audience is by cracking some jokes because that's not a normal thing or whatever but yeah they're oftentimes they're not really at the level you know to make someone laugh or whatever anybody who's done any sort of live comedy performance whether it's stand-up or whatever i did my ears are burning sorry i sorry to the some of the audience might not know i did used to do a little bit of stand-up myself but what they what what you'll what you end up finally learning is if nobody's laughing that makes it seem nerdy to laugh in the like laughter is contagious
Starting point is 00:15:54 absolutely in a way so if the crowd is kind of not into it and i think you know you're speaking to a church i think you're gonna run into crowds that don't really want to be i mean i would be like all about goofing around but that's that's why you're not in the church like i just don't think it's a big part of it is goofing around it's pretty serious i mean we're talking about damn eternal damnation you know what i mean stakes are a little higher than just the yuck yucks pretty high here if you're believing what they say so yeah i mean there's not a lot of but that's why that's what makes these guys hip is like god we're talking about eternal damnation here these guys still
Starting point is 00:16:34 manage you know they don't mind cracking a little joke i mean that guy's pretty bad at here he goes going hawaii like okay that sounds amazing i'm in right didn't know what it meant didn't know and for two months I didn't know no one ever called I'm like you ever hear God and then you think I didn't hear God I missed it that was just I don't have that experience at all two months I think you need to see somebody about that too and honestly the way you've described hearing it when you said it was so loud and it wasn't audible but it might as well have been like that i would be worried if i was hearing stuff like that yeah in the music industry that i used to work with a long time ago oh oh tom did you hear that
Starting point is 00:17:18 used to work in the music industry back in the day i think think you might be right. This guy might be a former musician. He's about to find out what he is. Who's that Canadian battle rapper that's like, he's a white guy with all the tattoos? You know what I'm talking about? Like Socrates or something like that? Oh, I do know.
Starting point is 00:17:38 Now I don't know the name, but I do know who you're talking about. Brian, would you happen to know? Because Brian's Canadian as well. I thought it was Tom McDonald. No, but both of those are good guesses for who this guy kind of puts me in the mind of. Yeah. Just aesthetically. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:55 He looks like my weed dealer and my pill dealer. He looks like my pill dealer? He looks like a pill dealer. Definitely. He looks like the kind of guy who, you know, would have like a Mersan or whatever and like roll up in a sports car and sell you a big bag of pills. He looked like my pill dealer whose name was Jeremy, but made me call him Frank when we were on the phone so that the FBI would be thrown off. Oh, that's right. I love those guys who would use their face. I had a lot of friends. I wasn't involved in like the drug trade myself but like a lot of my friends were and it was always this like you know you're like hanging out with them and somebody like calls them this just completely different name you know that they're going by and it's like come on man yeah the fbi's not looking for you because you're selling six pills to somebody okay he's gonna tell us what god sent him to do right here i mean he said hey man i know
Starting point is 00:18:46 you're a preacher now i know that you don't do this anymore at all but uh the band wang chung needs a tour manager really bad for this tour it's like an emergency and we need sorry sorry wang cha who is everybody everybody no no that's but that's the name of the band as well i believe so yes yes it's smart to say the name of the band in the song i don't know what you're making fun of no i mean people a bad company obviously did that a couple of people have done that for sure but i'm not so wang chung is uh i'm not familiar oh they are they are a band. Are they talking about the 80s new wave band, Wang Chung? Yeah. That is who they're talking about.
Starting point is 00:19:27 Everybody. This guy used to manage Wang Chung. Well, Jesus, he did manage them a while ago, but Jesus actually told him to manage Wangang chung is is what i gather from this but wang chung is a 45 year old band yes yes and that's one of the things about these guys hipness you know it's the same thing as uh wrestlers it's like they're so far behind so fucking far that like dropping the he thinks that there's currency and dropping the name wang chung he's talking to a group of youths right yeah and he's just like uh you're gonna be a little bit impressed here i might be going out with a little band called
Starting point is 00:20:20 the wang chung and everyone's just like millennials are like um i think that's racist yeah perhaps you've heard a little song called everybody have fun tonight from 1982 yeah well those are my guys those are my sister's favorite song for a period of time i believe they have a song that you might have heard in a few commercials it's what that name drop is so much it's almost better than a man cow name drop really well i i didn't realize i thought that was the name of a song uh so that's how that's how influential they are um i i did not realize that they were in fact even a band let alone a band still touring i didn't know they ever were a band when you smart money was on this guy tour managing la guns or something yeah yeah yeah that's it is surprising because they're like a
Starting point is 00:21:18 new way they're like an english band right yeah or even like one of the C-level new metal bands. Yeah, yeah. He could be doing new metal. He could definitely be doing that. But yeah, I mean, yeah, I'm looking because I just looked up Wang Chung. Obviously, they're English and the way they look, they don't seem like they'd be friends with this guy or get along with them. You're going to learn a little bit about them here need somebody
Starting point is 00:21:46 and i knew you could do it i just didn't know if if you would want to if you're able to and my first thought is no i don't want to do it playing hard to get tell me in my 20s yeah put me out on the road send me out that's a great time rock and roll yeah i have a wife and four kids i do not want to be gone. I just want to say something. I'm sure Wang Chung get their fair share of pussy. Don't get me wrong. I'm not sure that it's tour managing Wang Chung would be like what we think of the lifestyle. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:22:20 I don't think it would be a debaucherous affair. know what i mean i don't think it would be a debaucherous affair just this guy and like three 60 year old english dudes who were like eating you know drinking tea and just like going back to their hotel immediately after the show and it's very funny too i can't be out on the road with this debaucherous crazy rock and roll lifestyle I mean he definitely he's right though I will give him at least he sort of does sort of realize that like hey this is not a good idea
Starting point is 00:22:56 I should not be doing this at this point in my life it's a bad choice so at least I'll give him credit for realizing that it's gone that long that's not what I want to do right I love Jesus I don't want to be around all that but then i remembered oh back your bags you're ready to go oh wait he's no he's gonna do it yeah what the fuck so this guy's just like this guy's basically said all right so you remember that band they had one song 45 years ago.
Starting point is 00:23:26 They fucking called. Someone called me up and was like, do you want to go on tour? I did not want to because I have a wife and four children, and she needs my help taking care of them. And I'm a father, and I need to be responsible, and I have no interest in doing it. But then I remembered that I heard voices one time a few weeks ago, and now I decided to change all of my plans and do the thing i don't want to do yeah now i do realize this is a slippery slope and could lead to me banging 80s between my toes with three geriatric english new wave artists however when god when god says go you go folks listen if god says you know snort a line of coke Coke off of some type of groupie off of her, you know, her butt cheek, then I got to go do it.
Starting point is 00:24:09 Wang Chung groupies. Oh, it is funny because I thought to myself, I was like, now maybe he just meant the idea of going on the road. But he clarified. He's just like, I don't want to be around that stuff. I love Jesus and stuff. So that really was what he was thinking. Like, I can't be on this crazy tour bus you know a couple of hell cats like wang chung anything i'm gonna look up
Starting point is 00:24:35 wang chung current day i want to see what they look like i gotta see them dude oh i'm sorry i mean they are just genuinely two old men i mean they are you gotta look at what they look like even in their heyday they're like wearing scarves and i know they were they weren't ever like i mean i'm sure they had their share of uh when wang chung was like really lighting up the charts. You know what I mean? Like that, oh yeah, okay. Oh, dude.
Starting point is 00:25:11 If it was 1983, this guy would have a point. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe because, yeah, during that time, you know, even the guys who looked like everyone was doing coke, you know, it didn't matter. If you're in the industry, you're partying, you know. I jumped forward a little bit here some more. you know it didn't matter if you're in the industry you're partying you know i jumped
Starting point is 00:25:25 for it a little bit here some more i told me i said it doesn't help me that i'm i'm in this world i'm not of it i get that and god said wait wait i told him he's in this world he's not of of it. For the uninitiated, that's something Christians say a lot. They're like, you know, their rallying call is be in this world, but not of this world, because that's what Christ was. And for him to drop that casually in conversation was funny for me. I'm sorry. And what does it mean for somebody like that? I'm ignorant.
Starting point is 00:26:03 I don't understand what that would basically, we have to live in this sinful world, but we shouldn't partake of it. Okay. Okay. God told that to him. Now he's, we're about to start feeling sorry for Wang Chung here in a minute.
Starting point is 00:26:18 Fins. I'm like, yeah, what about it? It's like Philippians is one of the happiest books in the Bible. Amazing book of the Bible. I love it. He he said where did paul write that i said in prison right wait so he's having a full conversation back and forth with god now at this point yeah he's talking who's the person he's talking to here god are you is it god yeah it's god that's who he's talking to now
Starting point is 00:26:44 and he like god he's asking god questions god is answering god's asking him questions like they are having a conversation now just here we go they're gonna start playing name that tune in a second here he goes he's gonna you're gonna immediately feel bad for wang chung here in a second i had a choice paul could have seen himself that he was chained to that guard or he could change his perspective and seeing that that guard was chained to him how you see the situation you're in kelly he said are you chained to this tour or is this tour chained to you i'd fire him like if i knew
Starting point is 00:27:26 that he was getting into that area where it's like i'm not chained to this tour this tour is chained to me like listen listen we i understand we've spent quite a bit of time sort of minimizing the impact that wang chung has had on you know our society but for this guy to think he's bigger than wang chung in any way is just laughable you will never be bigger than wang chung sir it's a good point it is a good point he will never that wang chung is dragging you along on this tour like yeah i'm wondering if wang chung didn't immediately regret this choice I think he did because As soon as Jesus told him You know he's carrying the Bible everywhere, right?
Starting point is 00:28:12 Oh yeah, he's got a pocket one He's got a full size in his car Yeah, yeah And you know he's not not talking about it To Wang Chung, right? Like there's no way that that's not like 90 of the conversation he has with wang chung but couldn't wang chung shut it down though because they are the talent they are you know can't wang chung be like yo man we're not talking about that shit you know
Starting point is 00:28:37 honestly no they can't could you yeah it would be hard to do it i could not just be like oh god it's gonna be jesus for the next oh no i would oh like if i was in this situation if i was on the tour bus and he started talking to me about jesus i would just i would say it politely but i would say hey man i'm not i'm not particularly religious i got no issues with you here but we're not looking to talk about that kind of stuff here you know that's what i would say let's say wang chung was a three-piece let's put ourselves in wang chung's shoes for a minute okay pretend we're at a denny's in omaha two in the morning we just rocked the omaha civic center they were chanting they were down yeah they chanted for us to keep playing that one song
Starting point is 00:29:18 837 strong just chanting everybody have fun tonight everybody have fun today even when we were playing our other songs they were still chanting right we're going to get us a grand slam and we have to listen to big k here just uh go on known about uh you know being in the world but not of the world yeah i would shut it down i i would shut it down i i really would that's the kind of person that uh that i am that scenario is that i would just say nicely like, hey, man. That's literally brave. I think of that as like the guys that ran into the World Trade Center on 9-11.
Starting point is 00:29:56 Brave. Okay. The people who ran their planes into the World Trade Center on 9-11 were not brave, Brian. And I have to reject that as a statement i mean the firefighters right like i i could never say it i could never you canadian guys playing fast and loose with my national tragedies yeah i'm sorry tom what would you i'm interested tom if if you were if he were doing that would you let him continue to talk about the bible the whole time or would you ask him to start i want to tell you guys something listen having been
Starting point is 00:30:31 immersed in this for the longest time i would have had fun with it maybe till we got to scottsdale and then after a couple of nights of playing the shittiest venues for 200 guarantees that you could muster i said yeah it's time to go back across the pond, boys. Yeah, it's time to go back where they respect us across the pond. Yeah. All right, here's where this wraps up here, the Wang Chung
Starting point is 00:30:55 story. I can do this on my own. What? Wait, so he's going to go play the Wang Chung songs? We don't even need the band. I know that everybody has fun tonight. Here we go. I'm like, kind of. I don't work for the tour.
Starting point is 00:31:17 I'm Wang Chung's tour manager. I didn't say that out. So I was just like, yeah, kind of. So a woman came up to him. Yeah. Wants to get backstage and meet Wang Chung. and that's the story we're hearing now this lady is a 74 year old lady oh yeah like looking around me to see if anyone better is there i guess i'm not cute enough and uh she's like i'm trying to find wang chung the band where i'm
Starting point is 00:31:43 trying to meet wang chung in my mind i'm like you actually found the only person that could help me like what luck for you right oh my god dude he's the gate this guy is sucks so bad oh so you want to piece of the chung try and go through the K I'm sorry nobody gets to double suck Wang Chung until they answer a riddle from Kelly K
Starting point is 00:32:17 this guy rules Brian I'm going to admit when you first started playing this guy like in the beginning i was kind of like uh this guy's kind of mid as far as like you know he's like not that interesting but holy shit did he turn up the dial yeah he's great he found wang chung man b and she's like i'm really good friends with wang chung they're like my best friends like every time they come to town we hang out i'm always on their tour bus. Like we party together. Like they know me.
Starting point is 00:32:46 We're best friends. And I'm just trying to get back there looking for me. And I'm about to be like, well, hey, you're in luck. I'm the guy. Let's go. And I'm about to say that. And then she says something that changed everything. She said, I don't really need you.
Starting point is 00:32:58 I can do this on my own. So there's your message, everybody. You do need Jesus. You cannot so and he's jesus in this scenario story if for some reason you want to make wang chung in this case you can't do it on your own you need help from jesus or kelly k wow very yeah yeah uh so i i went to a kelly k was he was a good guy i found but then i also let's give it around and give it up for kelly kelly kelly k thank you for bringing it he's one of the tops um so then i i uh where is this fucking thing oh here it is okay i found this guy and it's judah smith is his name okay and uh this guy
Starting point is 00:33:50 tom you'll recognize him as a guy that looks almost fucking exactly like uh what's his name uh pastor carl lenz he's in the middle there oh man he does he does look a lot yeah i know pastor carl lenz he is like he is like involved in big controversies and stuff right they were in the news he's got lens vibes yeah this guy is that really not pastor carl lenz no it's not it's not it's judah smith he's taken over for pastor carl he really is biting his whole vibe. Somebody has to do it, man. Somebody has to do it. And listen, if I could be Lentz level, I would be Christian, you know? So like if you were like if you're like a big, huge celebrity, big, huge celebrity that gets like, you know, $50,000.
Starting point is 00:34:42 Oh, yeah. Yeah. If you get to be. Well, that's true. I would be Christian if I got to hang out with Biebs. You know what I mean? If it meant that I could spend a little time on the tour bus, Biebs tour bus. Maybe I stand at the front door.
Starting point is 00:34:54 Oh, you want to meet Justin Bieber, do you? You can tell he's K-level there. This is what this guy's talking about here. He's got an interesting outlook. Someone and start crossing lines that only hurt you, but hurt others. And so I know for Chelsea and I, it may not be popular. I know Dr. Dobson and there are many other teachers out there that, that teach different things, but we've definitely landed on this topic that it can be very much a a productive tool and so he's talking about masturbation oh very interesting i'll just be very candid i love the idea of like because
Starting point is 00:35:37 masturbation is like some type of a sin or something like that like is it is it considered to be a sin is the sin i you know me... Me and Tom have talked about that in the past. I'm sure you have. The scripture says that you shouldn't sow your seed on unfertile soil. I got you. That's what that would be. That would be just like spilling it out.
Starting point is 00:35:58 In fact, it goes so far as to say it's better to put it in the belly of a whore than to put it on the ground. I don't like that kind of language tom come on i i don't shoot the messenger that's uh please um but yeah so so i just like spill yeah okay so to put it anywhere other than somewhere that's going to make a child so i love these pastors that are so horny i I know. That they're just like, hey, you know what? I need to make a bit of a case here for being able to jerk off.
Starting point is 00:36:31 Because otherwise I can't really do this. As you can see from my appearance, I'm a bit of a maverick anyway. Yeah. I mean, this guy. When I'm traveling away from Chelsea, when I can fantasize about Chelsea and use masturbation as a gift to keep myself focused and not caught up.
Starting point is 00:36:55 So. And this guy's just incensed over that. This guy's reacting. We were watching something. It was some type of a reaction thing. Everybody reacted to this every single one of the young preachers reacted to this so we can hear what uh tyson james is gonna say this guy by the way you should see he's got a big giant casey hat on right now big beard
Starting point is 00:37:17 with the fade and like a faith like hardcore band looking t-shirt that says faith everywhere or something okay it's called self-control in these types of situations we need to utilize self-control this guy judah smith is obviously not thinking with the right head and oh shit i wish she had air horns oh dance hall siren that's huge now now listen i have a question do you think how many of these people do you think really don't masturbate none not a single fucking do you think that's the case because i i don't know i think there are some people who've never done it before they don't really know they don't really have like you know if you have a different sort of mindset about it but is that what you think brian is that all of them are just saying that and then they're going home and they're masturbating because they know nobody can find out
Starting point is 00:38:11 about it i just think everybody's masturbating it's not like something where like people aren't doing it it's it's kind of they can't say they are yeah yeah of course it is one of those things that you could never get caught because you could just go into the washroom your bathroom and you could sit there with your own mind and you could masturbate and there'd be no way you could get caught for it you say that chris and my friend brandon young got caught by his mom the same night sable came out with the pain on her i don't get you i believe uh believe a few of us got caught on that particular evening, Tom. I said, what did you do? He said, well, I just kind of acted like I was asleep, but we made eye contact, so I don't think she bought it.
Starting point is 00:38:52 I mean, listen, eye contact is bad. Imagine just giving it the possum routine and you're just full staff. I think that, like, you have to be able you can get in a situation where you can do it completely privately and there'd be no way to verify it and i think if that were the case i'm saying that i think some of them would just do it you know but do you do you think like this guy who's talking about this time who's saying it's a self-control do you think he the guy we just watched you think he's jacking the devil out of it yeah there's no doubt about it did you see that story today about the new speaker of the house that freak they nominated mike johnson i only know him because someone just sent me his cell phone number mike johnson and his son are uh masturbation accountability buddies that's right
Starting point is 00:39:49 that's right that and i was reading a lot of stuff about that a few different articles about it like some people trying to defend him like some weird you know conservative people who are saying hey just it's an accountability thing it's not like they're sharing it it's just of like, Hey, if I'm going to monitor what you're looking at, it's only fair that you have access to mine, even though I'm not looking at the porno. But I don't know though, I, as just a normal guy like me, I consider myself pretty normal. I hear that. And I think it sounds a bit weird. Yeah. Yeah. You know, so here's more Judah here. You're going to love the way this guy talks guys i'm gonna tell you right now he's got um he's got hip christian pastor voice
Starting point is 00:40:31 but i'm gonna organize it like this i want to talk to people who have ever felt like you're on the outside looking in i want to talk to anybody oh my god man that's the same guy we saw dressed like travis kelsey off duty like a second ago yeah yeah he's now he's got like this maroon suit with a yellow orange t-shirt a maroon matching beanie i mean this is a it's a it's a really really it's like yeah it's like a hip it's like a classic like look that you would imagine you'd see in Brooklyn in 2010 or something like that. Some coffee shop. Well, that is what they're going for, I think.
Starting point is 00:41:14 I don't know why they're trapped in. It's kind of like how wrestlers still wear fanny packs for the whole time. They never stopped wearing them you know yeah and it was like why are they still wearing these this was like a thing in like 1993 and it went away but they're wearing they're wearing these and they they are stuck in this like 1993 time well I I feel like almost all these guys unless they're a hype beast I feel like almost all these guys, unless they're a hype beast, at which they do have a decent amount of those, unless they're a hype beast, then they are dressed like a 2010 hipster guy. Yeah, I guess.
Starting point is 00:42:09 Was that when youth pastors were big? I definitely, when I was looking a little bit into it, I was seeing how there was like some, some definite articles about how like kids don't like these type of, they don't respond well to them. You know what I mean? Like it's not the right approach and it's sort of is like, but I don't know. I'm not that like, is this, is it as prevalent as it ever was? Is it like a huge thing? These cool hip youth pastors or did I have a time? Teens can sniff it out i think is why
Starting point is 00:42:27 it's not as much now there was a moment and i think these guys are still stuck in it to a large degree when like i want to say from like 2009 to 2013 when like kanye west was like into this stuff like that rich wilkerson dude who you can see over here like he i guess they've done some stuff together like he that guy i think was kanye's pastor okay and like a lot of what about lens what about like when was that like that was in 2010s okay yeah same kind of era same era when that was when he was doing it with bieber and he that was i remember that that was kind of like the moment publicly at least for like normal people because it was like justin bieber's like canceling tour dates to go spend time with this hip pastor or whatever right yeah yeah yeah they're baptizing tyson chandler and his bathtub that kind of shit yeah they go to vegas to baptize tyson chandler and his uh
Starting point is 00:43:21 yeah but there's like a very like the fashion is of that time too it's like uh like back then everybody was wearing like the tall tees with like the skinny jeans and chelsea boots like kind of thing like uh watch the throne era kanye west i guess very much addressed you know and these guys kind of never grew out of that no and they're not the honest truth is they're not trying to trick teenagers they're trying to trick adults into spending money to get them to come and talk to their teenagers yeah you know they want to look the way it would look but they do have to trick the teens if they want to like create right don't they because if you get asked to come once and then their response would be so
Starting point is 00:44:00 poor to it that like wouldn't you have to at least be able to resonate with them on some level you know to be successful at it like is this guy successful this guy that we're watching do we he is yeah but it's not because of teenagers see gotcha out it's because the pastor at the church saw him and he's dressed this way and he's like oh the teenagers probably would really respond to this guy because it doesn't matter. That kind of stuff doesn't matter, I think, in the long run, whether the teens buy into it or not. It's kind of like we talk about those speakers, what are they called? The motivational speakers or the speakers that dampen you.
Starting point is 00:44:44 Guys like that, right? Like when we talk about them, it's like, they don't seem like they have any other job other than telling people that they're rich. Like they don't actually make money doing anything other than speaking at conferences and saying, I'm rich. And like, I think a lot of this. The pastors are just cool.
Starting point is 00:45:04 And it's like, hey, this gives some coolness to our church. And we have this person associated with it and it makes it seem just like on the, on the outwardly, at least on the surface level, it makes it seem more cool and appealing. You know, it's probably enough teens that think he's cool. I'm just saying, I don't think they buy into it as much as maybe people on the outside would think that they do. I mean, are you going to play the video that I that one that I sent you that on the news? Because the way that guy talks is some of the craziest. I wanted you to hear how this guy talks.
Starting point is 00:45:37 I was willing to admit you feel sometimes like you're on the outer edge of the sacred community. You're on the fringe of the faithful called anointed people. You don't fit. Sometimes you don't belong. You don't feel godly enough. You don't feel knowledgeable enough. You don't feel spiritual enough. I hate when people talk to me like this.
Starting point is 00:46:01 He knows that you listen to Pitbull more than worship music oh he dropped mr 305 305 okay so uh yeah that's not exactly bible music safe to say this guy knows pitbull so we have some interesting development sorry he's in miami he's so he's like he's pretty he's uh you know i see yeah all these things on pitbull's home turf you know that's pitbull i'd fuck this guy up nobody knows that you cuss when you're not at church and you have started to wonder am am I really fit to be blessed and so used and and called on the stage with him by the way I don't really know that does that have some significance he's standing on this black stage and there's this large gray Boulder in the middle of the stage that he's kind of walking around yeah I'm not really sure what that is, but Christians love rocks. I do know that. I know that, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:06 God. Because that's got to be a little bit of a pervasive thought tonight, doesn't it? After all of this, you've got to start to wonder before you go home, how will God use me? He can fucking use me any way he wants. It's how young VU Conference still is. And it's a holy thing. And I know we're not as young as we used to be. But my friends here, Carmen.
Starting point is 00:47:34 Carmen, how old are you? I'm going to move up here a little bit so you guys can hear him get really excited. Because when he starts talking excited, he gets that youth pastor accent and voice. The accent is a little troublesome sometimes. You're about to get it. Here it goes.
Starting point is 00:47:56 I do it every time. It's my favorite one. This is my favorite one. And it's always the walk. Because ladies, let me let you in on a little secret. It ain't the clothes that the man wears oh it ain't even the deodorant i mean a little bit it's how the man wears oh okay it's the walk you ever notice these guys are all the time like trying to drop like dating wisdom yes like that's part of their like calling you know what i mean they're like yeah listen man uh you ever want to pick up a chick just put a bunch of quarters in your pocket and
Starting point is 00:48:32 jangle it when you want yeah you know like just shit is it would never work because you're supposed to like have a mate is that like the way they look at it? You know, that like people are supposed to have a maid and procreate and they don't actually have good advice because they just met their wife and like, you know, Bible study or whatever, you know? Yes. That's where they all meet. And they're all it's all because they're so fucking horny. They have to get married as soon as they turn 18. You know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:02 It's just what it is. It's just what it is. It's just what it is. But what I like to do with Chelsea is I'll be like, would you still marry me if I walked like this? Oh, did you hear that? I'd be like, oh, he's going to do more. He's going to do more. I mean, this is like the guy I say.
Starting point is 00:49:20 I know. I thought you'd like this guy after listening to the guy you sent me because he's going to set you in the nose. Yeah, because he's doing a really. You know what she says? Absolutely not. And I'm like, I know that's right. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:49:35 This is my favorite one. I do this all the time. That's the other thing they do besides dispense dating wisdom is they do that weird like black scent sometimes yeah they do just an aggressive black scent that is like you don't really hear this modern day anymore most people have sort of you know aquafina was doing it in movies for a while and they were like you can't do that anymore you don't really hear it that much it's so offensive in a way like when i heard this guy i heard the guy you sent me and I was like, well, he's got the Texas
Starting point is 00:50:08 twang thing, so he's okay. This guy does not have this. Watch this. This was for 22 years. Would you marry me if I walked like this? Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God, man. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:50:24 Oh, my God. Look how happy he is to be right there, that God, man. Oh, no. Oh, my God. You guys should be so happy. Look how happy he is to be racist right there. That little still look. You guys should be thrilled at racism. You're not watching this right now because if you're watching it, you would have just thrown your headphones off because you might have already anyways, but the walk he just did.
Starting point is 00:50:44 Fly bow. Fly bow. That's how he says it. He's like, I'm up here walking like Pootie Tang or something. That's what he's... They love those old references. Like, this is fucked. She says, absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:51:04 She says, I'm trying too hard. But it's all in the walk, isn't it? I know this isn't right, but at the end, when Pastor Mike Todd was walking off, because he was over here and all the musicians were around him, and then I knew he was leaving, he was sneaking out, and I was like, watch this man walk. You should watch this man walk. You should watch Pastor Mike walk. Cool as
Starting point is 00:51:28 a butterfly. And there's 750 species. You know, like... I don't get it. I don't get it either. There's 750 species of butterflies. That famous saying, cool as a butterfly. You just want to... You know what he wanted
Starting point is 00:51:44 to say but i don't understand why that got such a huge reaction from the crowd based on what like the 750 like is that a rep is that something i'm missing i think it's just cool i think they heard cool as a motherfucker i'm serious like i think in their mind their brain changed into cool as a motherfucker and they just started laughing about because that's what he's doing yeah well he would have said it like he would have said maw fucker cool if he was saying it yeah there's more thanks pastor rich all right so i'm gonna try to do pastor mike's walk no walk. No, he's like this. He's like, my man. Bye-bye. Everybody's worshiping.
Starting point is 00:52:31 I was like, look at that man of God walk. Right? Man of God can't be like, after a sermon like that, he can't be like. Imagine. That. That. That can't be like that. That can't be like.
Starting point is 00:52:45 He's in like a megachurch stadium type thing here, by the way, too. He has a gigantic crowd of people watching him right now. Everybody sing it. Imagine he's like... He wouldn't be walking like that. White people walk like this.
Starting point is 00:53:01 That's what he's doing. That's literally what he is doing right now. He's doing that bit. Imagine if Pastor Mike was like... That don't fit! Walk like a man of God.
Starting point is 00:53:19 You know what I mean? Walk like a math teacher. I'm kidding if you're a math teacher. Everybody relax. Guy can't be sarc're a math teacher. Everybody relax. Guy can't be sarcastic for 30 seconds. Nobody was mad. Nobody was mad. Yeah, that is such a bullshit. The comedians do that all the time. Oh, I guess you guys don't like it.
Starting point is 00:53:37 You know what I'm saying? Nobody reacted at all. You just have that built into your act because somebody reacted one single time and you don't have the creativity and improvisational skills to think at the moment. Bro, that's not a transition. That's not a transition. Is he going to a trans joke there? Ladies, you got to check out the walk.
Starting point is 00:54:14 Oh, he's doing it. He's doing the walk i'll get the walk on patreon for the not a lot of water polo players walk like this i'll tell you that right now what i didn't get that joke i don't understand anything he's saying and all of them seem to get it which is really worrying me a lot like maybe there's like other stuff that was said at some other point that we skipped over that he's making reference to but not a lot of water polo players walk like that like i mean maybe that's true but i don't even know what like i don't know anything about water polo players i don't have like i've never seen a water polo player wall i don't know any of the things you're supposed to think about them any of the stereotypes or anything i've never i'm not familiar i know that they play in the water that's all i know that's a hard one because yes
Starting point is 00:54:55 uh i had always heard that it's a incredibly hard game to play but you know i guess it's a dork game to this guy i can't i'm just kidding pastor rich you you you you you want like a basketball player i'll be honest oh i get what he's saying like yeah basketball players are swaggy water polo players are nerdy or something yeah maybe he's talking about like walking in the pool, like the way you have to like, you know, cause it's like, because how are water polo players are nerdy.
Starting point is 00:55:31 Is that like a known? I don't know. These guys are all like cotton diesel. I heard that sounds like you gotta be insanely in shape to play water polo. Cause you got to tread water the whole time. Yeah. Yeah. Oh,
Starting point is 00:55:44 you have to be in great shape. just maybe it's considered like i just don't know if it is a big enough thing to be considered a nerd thing you know what i mean it's just too niche and and doesn't really like it doesn't make me think of nerds you know what this guy makes this guy is a nerd to me he's pretty cool. How long is this? This is 49 minutes. They always have these hour-long fucking talks on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:56:13 She's not supposed to be there. You know what's wild? Some of you got invited tonight, and you're like, who is this guy in the red suit with a snow cap on bro oh my god fuck off man i fucking can't stand that shit where it's like you dress to look weird and then you're like ah everyone's like who's this fucking guy with this shit on it's like fuck you you can't say
Starting point is 00:56:40 that about yourself when you put the clothes on i hate this guy a lot i the other guy i want to i want kelly k back i want wang chung guy who would who put like to play god when people were trying to meet wang chung that was just fun you know very funny here also that guy had no audience and this guy has a big audience oh yeah he does you brought me out to listen to this joker with a fake foam rock on stage this is crazy it's like it's just so crazy to do it all yourself and present it it's just all so contrived and that to tell you but to actually sort of describe on stage how contrived it is. And it's just so weird for me to hear.
Starting point is 00:57:32 Yeah. And you feel like you're on the outside looking in. I mean, this is as hip Christian as you can get. I really think this is the most hip Christian guy. This guy is the hip Christianity. What Michael Nolan does, the classic rock guy. Yeah, this guy is the top. I mean, Kelly Kaye is going to live forever in our hearts.
Starting point is 00:57:51 I mean, anybody who basically says to some old lady who just wants to talk to her old friends and Wang Chung, it starts playing God with them. I mean, that's a guy who's going to live in my memory forever. But I hate this guy. Oh, he's got more who's going to live in my memory forever. But this guy, I hate this guy. Oh, he's got more. I got good news for you. You might be incorporated into the story tonight. She says she's smattering. Anybody ever heard a message from this chapter?
Starting point is 00:58:22 Anybody? How many ever heard Luke chapter 8? Okay, church people. Wow gotta get in la there'll be like four people i think so you know i love florida yeah all right i got a question why is why does he just like just run a lot yeah he moves a lot he moves around the stage a lot if i had to guess it's he watched chris rock he's doing chris rock or cat williams cat williams yeah yeah that's that williams will be all over the stage i mean i've seen a clip of cat williams on like a round stage you know like in the round everyone's running and he walked around the outside like paced around the outside of it
Starting point is 00:59:03 in a circle as he was telling this bit it's one of the best fucking stand-up clips i've ever seen yeah dang cook did it with that vicious circle show it's not good i'm not saying yeah i think it's different than cat cat williams listen he has obviously a bit of a wild man but cat williams in his day a really really good stand-up comedian well let's take a look at a few posts. This one's from the Young Life board, which is teens. And this is the pastor. Okay. And then he goes, ratio talk.
Starting point is 00:59:36 As of recently at my campaign, I have noticed my students saying words like ratio and elbow. Bozo. A lot of people choosing words to describe me such as I love this ignorance of it. I love it. I'm not sure how to reply to this. Has anybody else ever experienced this? Is this this new slang that I haven't caught on to, or am I being disrespected?
Starting point is 01:00:09 That's both. It would be both, sir. It is. Yeah, it is new slang that they are using to disrespect you. Well, we did get an answer. It was you're being disrespected 1,000%. Found out from my students that ratio is not a good thing that's so so good these i love this these youth pastors who are like their whole thing is connecting to the youth you know and they're just so detached from it and just like all these youth
Starting point is 01:00:41 people are just fucking constantly mocking and making fun of them. Well, they're 37 too. You got to give them credit as in like they're past 35. I would say most of these youth pastors are. I mean, I was just going to say, hey, but I'm 39 and I know it. Like I was going to say like that was something good. And then I realized, wait, that that's bad i shouldn't know that stuff you're being disrespected 1000 found out from my students that ratio is not a good thing you basically say it to expose someone el bozo reportedly means lost fool i told my guys we
Starting point is 01:01:22 would add bonus time if they kept it up and I hadn't heard it since so give that a shot so oh that's smart hey hey if you keep doing that you'll have to stay in my study thing for longer and the lord knows how much they hate that listen to me talk I love how that person also um translated bozo yeah yeah yeah yeah fool because they you know it was like l l bozo basically means lost fool so they they also translated the word bozo well they he was like oh i thought he was calling me bozo the clown who was like a really great host of and also quite beloved in his day yeah prince of chicago Prince of Chicago So this is from our Christianity Is it a sin buying designer clothes
Starting point is 01:02:11 And hype-y stuff if it's a hobby And an interest Like you spend a lot on one piece of clothing Or a sneaker you know So this guy went to Unfortunately the wrong place To ask this question Because our Christianity I don't know if you guys aren't going to ask this question because our Christianity
Starting point is 01:02:25 I don't know if you guys aren't going to believe this this is not a very hip section of the internet the just general catch all Christianity subreddit it's not where the cool people are what say they though I'm worried now
Starting point is 01:02:41 just curious this motherfucker's worried what's that i had to do the judah yeah did they answer though did they answer did anybody tell them if yep it's not a sin when it becomes your eye and when it it's not a sin when it doesn your eye and when it, it's not a sin when it doesn't become your idol. So if it becomes more important to you than God, then that's some thin ice you're traversing upon.
Starting point is 01:03:12 So you can do whatever you want and you just have to be like, God is still more important than that. Yeah. Certain things you can only, you can do that. Probably some sins are like mortal sins or whatever. Right. So yeah. And of course you should reserve time for God every single day.
Starting point is 01:03:28 Recently, I reserved during work days two hours, even if I may not spend an entire two hours with him, but usually at least one. And well, as for actually buying things, you should be fine as long as you don't waste too much money that you should spend on other important things. If it troubles you too much, you can ask,
Starting point is 01:03:45 you can directly ask the Lord in deep prayer. If he allows it. Find their work. We'll find their workplace where that person works. Report them for time theft. Two hours a day. They're spending with God instead of working. It will get you fired up.
Starting point is 01:04:01 Well, I do like the end of it where it's like, well, you know, this guy goes to the subreddit to ask. He's obviously asked God already. No kidding. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:10 Now he's looking for a second opinion. But that's his biggest mistake because you don't need a second opinion when you ask God. Yeah. Sorry. That is like I do feel like it's hard for them because of all the megachurch pastors who have all those planes and stuff like that, right? I do feel like that idea of like, you shouldn't like buy a bunch of stuff is sort of, I don't know. That one seems like they're a little free and easy with that one in the religious circles, you know? When that guy bought the preachers and sneakers guy gets
Starting point is 01:04:45 like death threats constantly have you ever seen that instagram no so there's an instagram where a guy goes and looks at these young christian guys these young pastors and stuff and he looks at their shoes and then puts the stock x page of how much the shoes cost it's preachers and sneakers and like they're all wearing like balenciaga and uh like and he's just sort of being like hey you guys think that they're dressed like bums or whatever you know what i mean so yeah yeah they're trying to make it seem like they're kind of of the people but here no one who's of the peoples has shoes that are 800 bucks or whatever so this is one where it's steve furtick oh i i know this steve furtick is a really famous uh pastor yeah and he's he's wearing a balenciaga
Starting point is 01:05:38 triple s nylon black and uh 467 so and they have the $800 colorway. So like this whole page is just that it's, it's all like just talking about this guy. He looks incredible. His name is Casey D treat. And he is wearing a star logo track jacket from golden goose, which is $325 and oversized white sneakers 590 and he looks truly insane he looks it looks like the owner of the raiders or whatever it looks like al davis yeah
Starting point is 01:06:15 he really he's this guy's very old just to be clear like he's like this is such a funny photo because he's so old and he's wearing these hip young clothes it looks like the buscemi meme almost honestly it's not as ridiculous it is so anyway i did i then decided look i gotta go to the christian heavy metal subreddit see what's going on and tom actually met one of the guys from striper which i'm i'm always going to be uh michael sweet yeah yeah met one of the guys from striper which i'm i'm always going to be uh michael sweet yeah yeah and what was the context of that meeting uh i used to run this uh venue and he played a solo show there and it was the weirdest show ever because we sold almost no booze but ran out of coke for our mixers because everybody was just drinking cokes all night.
Starting point is 01:07:06 And my bartenders were pissed. They were like, nobody tips, and they're just buying dollar cokes all night long. That's beautiful. Was he playing religious music? He was playing some of the stripped-down versions of Striper songs from the 80s. I mean, to hell with the devil. He did, yeah. He played to hell with the devil is he did yeah he
Starting point is 01:07:25 played to hell with the devil acoustic i think if i recall sure played that that's a famous song that's a famous song that's well the album yeah yeah oh okay oh it's an album that's that is a great name i i gotta i gotta give it up that is the video christian album they were i don't know is that right that brown they were the first contemporary christian band to go platinum or something like that they were fucking massive like i was really into striper when i was seven or eight or nine or something like that just because they were on this like they would be on mtv and on the countdown at the same time as like guns and roses like rat and docking and shit like that so they were they were like in the mainstream as well oh yeah my my uncle goes well he hasn't done it in a while but he went
Starting point is 01:08:12 to a striper convention and like uh it was just a full convention about striper and he went in there and you know they had memorabilia and like talks about striper and then the band was there signing autographs and stuff like that it's a really insanely niche thing to have a uh to have a seminar or whatever about but you know so i looked at christian metal and they asked the question now you guys probably aren't going to know this kind of music but there are people that will, I promise. This guy asked if Christian gore grind exists, which is a subgenre of metal. And he gets an answer, right? And I'm going to read you the names of these bands,
Starting point is 01:08:55 these Christian bands. Vomitorial corpulence, demonic dismemberment, rehumanize Eternal Mystery Flactorophia Empty Grave and Flesh Denial So those are some of the bands
Starting point is 01:09:15 in the Goregrind scene if everybody wants it. But there's also death metal bands. And that's Crimson Thorn Disarticulating Extuishment horseman i could have made up a game disarticulating extinguishment yes disarticulating disarticulating extinguishment that is the name of a christian death metal band you missed the boat here not doing your your fame i didn't have i didn't't find it until it was way too late.
Starting point is 01:09:46 You know what I mean? I hate those kind of names so bad. I know. Horseman of the Apocalypse is one that's a little better. But then you get into Disencumbrance. Oh. Disencumbrance is one of the worst brand names I've heard. Hardcore bands do that too where they just make up words kind of.
Starting point is 01:10:04 Yeah, put words together like it's sort of sound you know like yeah yeah so uh here's a question that was asked on the christian metal form does this first mean it's wrong to listen to songs that are about evil things finally brothers and sisters whatever is true whatever is noble whatever is right whatever is pure whatever is lovely whatever is admirable if anything is excellent or praiseworthy think about such things so he's asking like i'm gonna listen to some pretty nasty stuff his bible verse makes me nervous moose bear can you imagine you're reading the bible and like you're just you know you're going through it and then you see something that's like you're not you're not supposed to be doing this
Starting point is 01:10:51 you've been doing it a lot yeah yeah that must be a tough like oh crap i think that's why it's important that the first thing that you ever read is the bible and what it's one of the first things you ever do period is read the bible so yeah's one of the first things you ever do, period, is read the Bible. So you don't make any of those mistakes and you know what you're allowed to do and what you're not allowed to do right off the bat. My kids can be reading the Bible. I, of course, have my partners with child right now. And I'm telling you, as soon as he can read, he will be reading the Bible.
Starting point is 01:11:23 A Christian, get him into a class with like judah oh his name his name is gonna be judah yeah judah chin that guy judah smith get him in a class with judah jen too yeah he's gonna be actually i mean i'm gonna do i'm gonna name i said to ariel that what about chris jr and it's just funny can you imagine i don't know i mean what if i guess if it's like a thing you do in your family but the audacity to give your child the same name as you that makes vince mcmahon so mad that nobody has ever been allowed to be a junior in WWE ever because he's Vince Jr. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 01:12:10 And the old guys called him Vince Jr. and he fucking hated it. I still call him Vince Jr. because I'm a territory guy. I was back WWWF back when it was fucking Vince Sr., baby. That is the hip Christian, guys always tom you're the best hey thanks guys i always love come news yeah and uh yeah tom you rule i will say that we recorded this on my birthday it's my birthday today and when brian was like oh my god i should have done it on a different day and i was like buddy there's no better birthday present than getting to sit down for an hour and talk to my friend tom so you know what we did the spaghetti monster on my
Starting point is 01:12:49 birthday if y'all recall so oh yeah or like the day before but yeah i'll find something silly on my birthday for us to do when's your birthday when's your birthday january the 18th that's exciting so that's coming up fairly soon. Yeah. Fairly soon. We're going to have a birthday. We're going to have a big celebration on guys. Actually, it gets close. We're getting so close to episode 52, which is going to do a month. It's going to be a month.
Starting point is 01:13:19 It's going to be episode 52. We'll be Lego guys. We're going to do episode 52 will be lego guys we're wrestling guys you you are you and we're gonna do uh all the ones that people want that wait so you don't want to hold off and people might be getting mad at me right now and saying chris shut your mouth just let him do it but you don't want to hold off maybe one of them for the 100th episode maybe you know we do wrestling well yeah we could probably do wrestling guys for the because people aren't begging for that we get i want to do lego guys for the year anniversary and i have
Starting point is 01:13:51 always promised lego guys for the year anniversary can i just can i uh just this i have done a couple i've done this a couple of times and i wouldn't mind doing this i think it would be good if maybe i and maybe somebody else found the lego guys stuff and not you because i just feel like you might have a certain slant to some of these that you put your finger on the scale a little bit right i will never make i mean yes brian's just playing clips like well this guy actually sounds pretty smart and good it would be so hard for me to find somebody saying legos are uncool yeah well listen i can find it so yeah you just leave it up to me i will find and i can find plenty of people saying legos aren't cool and i can find plenty of examples of lego guys not being cool so i will do it no problem everyone yeah it, we're going to do sex guys too, I think.
Starting point is 01:14:47 And Pastafarian too would probably be a fun. We're going to go back and do a couple of. Yeah. We're going to start doing some part twos for a month. This is going to be a celebration of guys. I love it. Which is a month or two away. So it's not even that cool.
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