Guys: With Bryan Quinby - Guys: Episode 43 - Hip Christian Guys with Tom Sexton
Episode Date: December 5, 2023This is the episode that the patrons picked, it seemed like it would be easy to do until I had an actual crisis of confidence and decided that it would not be fun to make fun of young christians so he...re is what i did, we made fun of old youth pastors and met some real characters. How does a groupy for Wang Chung make you think of Christ? How is masturbation a cool tool for the lord? How does a man of god walk with swagger You know Tom, he is twitter.com/thetrillbillies and patreon.com/thetrillbillies and he is my friend and cohost of Holy Boyz which you could search my patreon and listen to every episode There is much more Chris at youtube.com/noteveashow and twitter.com/notevenashow and of course https://www.patreon.com/notevenashow And for more Guys content, streams and SHOCKTOBER: a deep dive into shock jocks you can click patreon.com/murderxbryan twitter.com/murderxbryan and twitch.tv/murderxbryan
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Welcome to Guys, a podcast about guys.
Hallelujah.
guys hallelujah it's me the last episode of this run before i go to fucking alaska which i'm already back from and have been back from for two weeks by the time this thing comes out i am brian and
i have christian chris chris chan is that an insult i know that's a person. Oh, yeah. I don't think that person's beloved.
What?
No, I just, I guess we're doing my name, of course.
You know, getting around it.
My name is of, it means of the Lord, Jesus Christ.
That's where it comes from.
And I'm feeling very religious today, Brian.
Well, and there's only one guy that we talk about this stuff with,
and that is Tom Sexton.
What's up, Tom?
Otherwise known as Doubting Thomas Sexton for our Bible heads out there.
So me and Tom have come close to this. We really tiptoed up to the line the last Holy Boys we made
because we talked about some of the metalcore bands,
and we talked a little bit about Teen Steam,
which when I told people,
remember when we told I,
we were like, we're going to do it.
I'm going to do an episode about teen steam and everybody made it seem
like we're doing an episode about porno.
It sounds,
it does sound kind of dirty or whatever.
I don't know why,
but it does.
It's an insane thing to call your ministry.
I think.
Yeah. And that's what this episode's about right like so i made some rules you know every once in a while an episode comes out i'm gonna make some rules for for myself as i'm prepping it one of the
so my daughter goes to the ohio state university and there is a thing there called life
life way life way i think something like that it's a a youth christian group and she goofs on
them all the fucking time and uh they i mean ohio state campus is lousy with them it started there
so it's this like youth group.
And then there was a thing called Xenos that is like a cult that separated off from them.
And which, by the way, I was listening to this podcast about the Xenos.
It's these young teenagers and like 21 year olds and they drink beer and they smoke cigarettes and stuff like that and smoke weed.
And then they'll invite you over to their house.
Like you want to come over and party, you know,
and you've been around them smoking cigarettes and stuff like that.
You get over there and they spring a Bible study on you right when you're done eating,
which is the coolest thing you can do to people.
I got a question.
Is that like, is it like a bait and switch?
Like they drop it like, hey, we don't really live like that.
That was just to reel you in.
Or do they continue to like?
No, they continue to party still.
Oh, you just party, but it's Bible party.
Yeah.
Well, I've never been to Bible study.
I think something we'll tell the people first.
Tom has been to Bible study.
I've never been.
Chris?
I think I went to church when I was a kid and so I don't
know that I went to Bible study I went to like a United Church or something like that you know I
don't even know like a Christian church of some kind and so I went to like Sunday school and
stuff but I don't think that I did an actual Bible study what what is it like can you explain
what it would be so I can maybe remember if I did? Well, it's almost if you've ever been part of a book club, it's almost like that.
But for the book.
Yeah, for the only book.
You know what I mean?
You pick a little chapter and verse out of there and then we do a little meditation on it and we talk about it and thoughts and then hors d'oeuvres are served.
That's how they trick you.
That's the insidious thing about church.
And I'm going to tell you, the Mormons did this to me.
During my dalliance with Mormonism, that's how they ruled me in.
Mormons did this to me.
I didn't have a day.
So what happened was I have this buddy who is Mormon,
but kind of just set on Mormon.
And I was 11 years old or something.
So nobody knows what aon is when they're 11
unless they're a fucking mormon you know this dude seemed really cool he like dressed cool and
he was he's still a person that i'm friends with now you know what i mean so it wasn't like he was
some dork or anything like that so he's like you guys want to come and stay at my house we can camp
out back in a tent that sounds cool
when you're 11 that's like honestly one of the coolest propositions you can get like sleeping
outside i love it and i had probably i had already started smoking cigarettes and stuff like that so
it was just like whoa that's perfect for you because when you're outside sleeping you can just hack one no problem you know do it in the tent maybe but also when you're outside sneaking out is much easier
oh yeah you can go wherever you could go to a like a different where would you go at 11 just
out of curiosity running around the neighborhood we go to the gas station and buy some some pepsi
and we go running around the fucking neighborhood knocking on doors
and running.
Little Nicky Nicky Nine Door.
It's a different name where I'm from, but you're not like
you can't say that anymore.
Is that
what it is? I thought it was like
New York Knicks knocking. I didn't know it was
the bad.
Oh, yeah.
Is it? Oh, really? No, I didn't think well listen i certainly me and chris
ever just called it that like purely purely like that was just the name of it it was like known as
that and everything including popular culture and stuff you know so that's very that's very
surprising to me to find out i mean hopefully people aren't mad at me for saying it it's that
you didn't do anything where i'm, they called it N-word knocking.
Oh, I see.
They used the actual word.
Oh, yeah.
I see.
I see.
That's a lot where I come from.
Oh, okay.
I got you.
I understand.
Well, yeah, that is a fun, I mean, a fun act.
Did you ever do the poop?
Did you ever put poop on someone's doorstep?
Nah.
No.
None of us, I think, felt maybe didn't feel like
pooping very much. You know what I mean?
Weren't like big poopers.
You get dog poo, you weirdo.
It's not like that. It's like somebody
floated that and Brian was like, now listen,
we're not a big group of poopers here.
We're not going to be.
We're not going to crap into a bed.
That's disgusting.
I mean, either way, it is a disgusting terrible.
We did it one time, I remember, in my youth.
You know, I think it was probably after we saw Billy Madison, most likely.
But, yeah, we did it.
And it actually worked.
Like, we guys stomped it out.
He got poop on his shoe it was a it was a
resounding success so we got back at uh christine hilton our middle school teacher who we called
christine hitler because it's just it was just right there you know nowadays you could just say
christine hilton then it would still you know what i mean yeah and it would still, you know what I mean? Yeah, and it would still ring some bells. We put a,
we got a, we got a condom
and just started collecting, like,
bad shit, including a dead frog
on the way to her house, and then we, like,
we nailed it to her door like Martin Luther
doing that.
We'd had enough.
That is so menacing.
You imagine her just laying in bed just hearing that knocking and
they come and founding that oh my goodness with a dead like any anytime there's a dead animal in
there of any kind even if it's small there's a certain menacing element to that you know
what happened though was like so when you're in fifth and sixth grade people will tell you that going to church is really fun
you basically play basketball and you uh get to eat candy and food i love basketball and i love
candy and i love food i mean exactly the second of those the more my mormon friend this is like a
payoff right like so this is like all right i assume i'll get to go to this this
play basketball and eat food and like get treats and stuff like that if i go to church and that
that in my head that was all we did you know and then we got there and it was just
i mean i don't know how long the service was. It was a bit too dry for you.
Well, I've talked about this a few times.
They had the remote control was an old game show.
They had the board game version of remote control.
And I loved that show.
I loved it, too.
I loved remote control as well.
Yeah.
It was so important to me.
I loved it.
And I thought we were playing the board game remote control.
I was like, this is going to fucking rule.
I am going to destroy everybody in this Sunday school.
But they changed the rules to Bible questions, and I just fucking lit up.
Oh, did I ever?
But anyway, there was no candy or anything like that.
And then I just never went back
because I never went back to church again ever on a Sunday
because of the sort of lack of candy.
Candy.
Yeah.
And you just thought to yourself, I'm going to spend a lot more time in the grocery slash convenience store, you know, where they got ample candy, where I could just get as many king size caramel as I want.
Your friend tell you, like, listen, Brian, it's not always going to be candy and basketball.
Yes. No, he kind of turn you off to the idea i think he wanted me there he never even said that to him brian just realized himself that like there there's no basketball nobody even has a ball
there's no hoop unless your mormon friend was jimmer for debt oh yeah he was he was a mormon wasn't he
which is so i i'm a i'm you know 11 or 12 when this happens and uh it it was like it really
changed everything so i i really didn't go back ever so the idea i didn't want to make fun of teenagers who probably got tricked into going
you know what i mean yeah like i like i i understand i i hesitate to and i mock people
and make fun of people a lot and i do hesitate to make fun of and mock younger people because i
think when i was that age how ignorant i was to so many things and i think it is important to allow
people to fully develop their point of view before you attack it i mean there's some you know
allowances at all that all depends how annoying looking the kid is you know there's some that you
really want to but yeah i i do tend to i think that's a good call, Brian, to not be making fun of these teenagers who are all involved in church in whatever way.
Well, I mean, you sort of almost like they're forced, really.
It isn't the parents.
So what I did look for when I was looking for the hip Christian guys was youth pastors, which is something I never got to meet a youth pastor in the traditional sense of the word
the the guy with the hair that you know sits down in front of kelvin from the righteous gemstone yes
but like exactly and of course what key what's the other guy's name keith yeah keith as well he's
he's consistent youth pastor as well i just want want to give him full credit. But Tom, have you just, sorry, but Tom,
have you ever had like a youth pat?
Like are you familiar with these people in your life at all?
Well, in my own life, not so much the church that I kind of grew up in,
but I went to friends churches during the sort of Christian boom of the early
aughts, you know, where these figures did exist,
including a guy who moonlighted as a youth pastor,
who was also the local hairdresser who was not to, you know,
be sort of crass about this,
but this man was clearly fighting the tide of his own sexuality.
And it was, you know, yeah.
It was one of those deals, you know not not dissimilar
to our friends on righteous gemstone was he rockabilly was he rockabilly by any chance
but i just say that because a lot of them no he wasn't that's too bad no he was not rockabilly
did he ever say like hey baby so you gotta understand i'm from the like the home of
that unironically yeah like i got cousins that
are just rockabilly not because it's a put on but because they're like never got out of the 1950s
oh yeah we know people i mean listen i met somebody online who's like that he doesn't
like me very much and sort of my ignorance on rockabillies but the guy we're looking at right
now brian i am intrigued
my friend i'll tell you what he does not look like a pastor as far as i'm concerned he looks
a little bit too cool to be a pastor he kind of looks like a cool guy you might see at a bar or
something have a drink with you know he looks like a guy that was in like uh like um like a
band like stained in the early 2000s
and the years have not been kind to him,
but they're going on tour again.
That's the fucking thing.
All these guys are like 42 years old.
I don't think there are a lot of famous youth pastors in their 20s.
I guess maybe you kind of have to be at it for a while
to be a guy that goes on the road.
Get a little life experience under your belt before you impart it to the youth.
Yeah, like a stand-up comedian, the same sort of thing.
It is hard.
You have to build your chops a little bit before you can hit different cities.
Just to paint a picture for everyone, he has a flat br um raiders hat on that is sort of turned sideways
and with a black t-shirt ripped jeans and full sleeve tattoos sort of a bigger guy um yeah look
bald-headed looking guy so we're also seeing a wallet chain oh yes we are seeing a wallet folks
we have confirmed a wallet chain on the pastor well let's check into kelly k this is
our guy um let's let's take a look in my church and during the afternoons what i like to do is
just go to my church and just walk through the sanctuary and pray i do this every single day
around 10 a.m and i'm doing that and i'm praying and i heard god as loud as day it was i'm not
saying it was audible but man it might as well have been.
It was so clear.
And this is what God said to me.
He said, pack your bags, get ready to go.
When they call, say yes.
I was like, excuse me?
He said, pack your bags.
Little laugh there.
Got a little laugh.
Who is it?
The laugh is tough for these guys.
These guys have a tough time okay the last one the last one for these guys these guys have a tough time getting
the laughs well you know what yeah because they are kind of when you're doing that cool thing
part of that is definitely humor i feel like like from what i've seen that kind of when you're
trying to be hip or whatever one way that you can convey that to a younger audience is by cracking
some jokes because that's not a normal thing or whatever but yeah they're oftentimes they're not really at the level you know to make someone laugh or whatever anybody who's done any
sort of live comedy performance whether it's stand-up or whatever i did my ears are burning
sorry i sorry to the some of the audience might not know i did used to do a little bit of stand-up
myself but what they what what you'll what you end up finally learning
is if nobody's laughing that makes it seem nerdy to laugh in the like laughter is contagious
absolutely in a way so if the crowd is kind of not into it and i think you know you're speaking
to a church i think you're gonna run into crowds that don't really want to be
i mean i would be like all about goofing around but that's that's why you're not in the church
like i just don't think it's a big part of it is goofing around it's pretty serious i mean we're
talking about damn eternal damnation you know what i mean stakes are a little higher than just
the yuck yucks pretty high here if
you're believing what they say so yeah i mean there's not a lot of but that's why that's what
makes these guys hip is like god we're talking about eternal damnation here these guys still
manage you know they don't mind cracking a little joke i mean that guy's pretty bad at here he goes
going hawaii like okay that sounds amazing i'm in right didn't know what it meant didn't know and for two
months I didn't know no one ever called I'm like you ever hear God and then you think I didn't hear
God I missed it that was just I don't have that experience at all two months I think you need to
see somebody about that too and honestly the way you've described hearing it when you said it was
so loud and it wasn't audible but it might as well have been
like that i would be worried if i was hearing stuff like that
yeah in the music industry that i used to work with a long time ago oh oh tom did you hear that
used to work in the music industry back in the day i think think you might be right. This guy might be a former musician.
He's about to find out what he is.
Who's that Canadian
battle rapper
that's like, he's a white guy with all the tattoos?
You know what I'm talking about?
Like Socrates or something like that?
Oh, I do know.
Now I don't know the name,
but I do know who you're talking about. Brian, would you happen
to know? Because Brian's Canadian as well.
I thought it was Tom McDonald.
No, but both of those are good guesses for who this guy kind of puts me in the mind of.
Yeah.
Just aesthetically.
Yeah.
He looks like my weed dealer and my pill dealer.
He looks like my pill dealer?
He looks like a pill dealer. Definitely. He looks like the kind of guy who, you know, would have like a Mersan or whatever and like roll up in a sports car and sell you a big bag of pills.
He looked like my pill dealer whose name was Jeremy, but made me call him Frank when we were on the phone so that the FBI would be thrown off.
Oh, that's right. I love those guys who would use their face. I had a lot of friends. I wasn't involved in like the drug trade myself but like a lot of my friends were and it was always this like you know you're like
hanging out with them and somebody like calls them this just completely different name you know that
they're going by and it's like come on man yeah the fbi's not looking for you because you're
selling six pills to somebody okay he's gonna tell us what god sent him to do right here i mean he said hey man i know
you're a preacher now i know that you don't do this anymore at all but uh the band wang chung
needs a tour manager really bad for this tour it's like an emergency and we need sorry sorry
wang cha who is everybody everybody no no that's but that's the name of the band as well i believe so yes yes
it's smart to say the name of the band in the song i don't know what you're making fun of
no i mean people a bad company obviously did that a couple of people have done that for sure but i'm
not so wang chung is uh i'm not familiar oh they are they are a band. Are they talking about the 80s new wave band, Wang Chung?
Yeah.
That is who they're talking about.
Everybody.
This guy used to manage Wang Chung.
Well, Jesus, he did manage them a while ago,
but Jesus actually told him to manage Wangang chung is is what i gather from this but wang chung is a
45 year old band yes yes and that's one of the things about these guys hipness you know it's
the same thing as uh wrestlers it's like they're so far behind so fucking far that like dropping the he thinks that there's currency and dropping
the name wang chung he's talking to a group of youths right yeah and he's just like uh
you're gonna be a little bit impressed here i might be going out with a little band called
the wang chung and everyone's just like millennials are like um i think that's racist
yeah perhaps you've heard a little song called everybody have fun tonight from 1982 yeah well
those are my guys those are my sister's favorite song for a period of time
i believe they have a song that you might have heard in a few commercials it's what that name drop is so much
it's almost better than a man cow name drop really well i i didn't realize i thought that was the
name of a song uh so that's how that's how influential they are um i i did not realize that they were in fact even a band let alone a band
still touring i didn't know they ever were a band when you smart money was on this guy tour
managing la guns or something yeah yeah yeah that's it is surprising because they're like a
new way they're like an english band right yeah or even like one of the C-level new metal bands.
Yeah, yeah.
He could be doing new metal.
He could definitely be doing that.
But yeah, I mean, yeah, I'm looking because I just looked up Wang Chung.
Obviously, they're English and the way they look, they don't seem like they'd be friends
with this guy or get along with them.
You're going to learn a little bit about them here need somebody
and i knew you could do it i just didn't know if if you would want to if you're able to
and my first thought is no i don't want to do it playing hard to get tell me in my 20s yeah put me
out on the road send me out that's a great time rock and roll yeah i have a wife and four kids
i do not want to be gone. I just want to say something.
I'm sure Wang Chung get their fair share of pussy.
Don't get me wrong.
I'm not sure that it's tour managing Wang Chung would be like what we think of the lifestyle.
You know what I mean?
I don't think it would be a debaucherous affair.
know what i mean i don't think it would be a debaucherous affair just this guy and like three 60 year old english dudes who were like eating you know drinking tea and just like going back
to their hotel immediately after the show and it's very funny too i can't be out on the road with this debaucherous crazy rock and roll lifestyle
I mean he
definitely
he's right though I will give him
at least he sort of does sort of realize
that like hey this is not a good idea
I should not be doing this at this point in my
life it's a bad choice so at least
I'll give him credit for realizing that
it's gone that long that's not
what I want to do right I love Jesus I don't want to be around all that but then i remembered oh
back your bags you're ready to go oh wait he's no he's gonna do it yeah what the fuck
so this guy's just like this guy's basically said all right so you remember that band they had one
song 45 years ago.
They fucking called.
Someone called me up and was like, do you want to go on tour?
I did not want to because I have a wife and four children, and she needs my help taking care of them.
And I'm a father, and I need to be responsible, and I have no interest in doing it.
But then I remembered that I heard voices one time a few weeks ago, and now I decided to change all of my plans and do the thing i don't want to do
yeah now i do realize this is a slippery slope and could lead to me banging 80s between my toes
with three geriatric english new wave artists however when god when god says go you go folks
listen if god says you know snort a line of coke Coke off of some type of groupie off of her, you know, her butt cheek, then I got to go do it.
Wang Chung groupies.
Oh, it is funny because I thought to myself, I was like, now maybe he just meant the idea of going on the road.
But he clarified.
He's just like, I don't want to be around that stuff.
I love Jesus and stuff.
So that really was what he was thinking.
Like, I can't be on
this crazy tour bus you know a couple of hell cats like wang chung anything i'm gonna look up
wang chung current day i want to see what they look like i gotta see them dude oh i'm sorry i
mean they are just genuinely two old men i mean they are you gotta look at what they look like
even in their heyday they're like wearing scarves and i know they were they weren't ever
like i mean i'm sure they had their share of uh when wang chung was like really
lighting up the charts.
You know what I mean?
Like that, oh yeah, okay.
Oh, dude.
If it was 1983, this guy would have a point. You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Maybe because, yeah, during that
time, you know, even the guys who looked like everyone
was doing coke, you
know, it didn't matter.
If you're in the industry, you're partying, you
know. I jumped forward a little bit here some more. you know it didn't matter if you're in the industry you're partying you know i jumped
for it a little bit here some more i told me i said it doesn't help me that i'm i'm in this
world i'm not of it i get that and god said wait wait
i told him he's in this world he's not of of it. For the uninitiated, that's something Christians say a lot.
They're like, you know, their rallying call is be in this world, but not of this world, because that's what Christ was.
And for him to drop that casually in conversation was funny for me.
I'm sorry.
And what does it mean for somebody like that?
I'm ignorant.
I don't understand what that would basically,
we have to live in this sinful world,
but we shouldn't partake of it.
Okay.
Okay.
God told that to him.
Now he's,
we're about to start feeling sorry for Wang Chung here in a minute.
Fins.
I'm like,
yeah,
what about it?
It's like Philippians is one of the happiest books in the Bible.
Amazing book of the Bible. I love it. He he said where did paul write that i said in prison right wait
so he's having a full conversation back and forth with god now at this point yeah he's talking who's
the person he's talking to here god are you is it god yeah it's god that's who he's talking to now
and he like god he's asking god
questions god is answering god's asking him questions like they are having a conversation
now just here we go they're gonna start playing name that tune in a second
here he goes he's gonna you're gonna immediately feel bad for wang chung here in a second i had a
choice paul could have seen himself that he was chained to that guard
or he could change his perspective and seeing that that guard was chained to him
how you see the situation you're in kelly he said are you chained to this tour or is this tour
chained to you i'd fire him like if i knew
that he was getting into that area where it's like i'm not chained to this tour this tour is
chained to me like listen listen we i understand we've spent quite a bit of time sort of minimizing
the impact that wang chung has had on you know our society but for this guy to think he's bigger
than wang chung in any way is just laughable you will never be bigger than wang chung sir
it's a good point it is a good point he will never that wang chung is dragging you along on this tour
like yeah i'm wondering if wang chung didn't immediately regret this choice I think he did because
As soon as Jesus told him
You know he's carrying the Bible everywhere, right?
Oh yeah, he's got a pocket one
He's got a full size in his car
Yeah, yeah
And you know he's not not talking about it
To Wang Chung, right?
Like there's no way that that's not like 90 of the conversation
he has with wang chung but couldn't wang chung shut it down though because they are the talent
they are you know can't wang chung be like yo man we're not talking about that shit you know
honestly no they can't could you yeah it would be hard to do it i could not just be like oh god it's gonna be jesus for the next
oh no i would oh like if i was in this situation if i was on the tour bus and he started talking
to me about jesus i would just i would say it politely but i would say hey man i'm not i'm not
particularly religious i got no issues with you here but we're not looking to talk about that
kind of stuff here you know that's what i would say let's say wang chung was a three-piece let's
put ourselves in wang chung's shoes for a minute
okay pretend we're at a denny's in omaha two in the morning we just rocked the omaha civic center
they were chanting they were down yeah they chanted for us to keep playing that one song
837 strong just chanting everybody have fun tonight everybody have fun today even when
we were playing
our other songs they were still chanting right we're going to get us a grand slam and we have
to listen to big k here just uh go on known about uh you know being in the world but not of the
world yeah i would shut it down i i would shut it down i i really would that's the kind of person
that uh that i am that scenario is that i would just say nicely like, hey, man.
That's literally brave.
I think of that as like the guys that ran into the World Trade Center on 9-11.
Brave.
Okay.
The people who ran their planes into the World Trade Center on 9-11 were not brave, Brian.
And I have to reject that as a statement i mean the firefighters
right like i i could never say it i could never you canadian guys playing fast and loose with my
national tragedies yeah i'm sorry tom what would you i'm interested tom if if you were if he were
doing that would you let him continue to talk about the bible the
whole time or would you ask him to start i want to tell you guys something listen having been
immersed in this for the longest time i would have had fun with it maybe till we got to scottsdale
and then after a couple of nights of playing the shittiest venues for 200
guarantees that you could muster i said yeah it's time to go back across the pond, boys.
Yeah, it's time to go back
where they respect us across the pond.
Yeah.
All right, here's where
this wraps up here, the Wang Chung
story. I can do this on my own.
What?
Wait, so he's going to go play the Wang Chung songs?
We don't even need the band.
I know that everybody has fun tonight.
Here we go.
I'm like, kind of.
I don't work for the tour.
I'm Wang Chung's tour manager.
I didn't say that out.
So I was just like, yeah, kind of.
So a woman came up to him.
Yeah.
Wants to get backstage and meet Wang Chung. and that's the story we're hearing now this lady is a 74 year old lady oh yeah
like looking around me to see if anyone better is there
i guess i'm not cute enough and uh she's like i'm trying to find wang chung the band where i'm
trying to meet wang chung in my mind i'm like you actually found the only person that could help me like
what luck for you right oh my god dude he's the gate this guy is sucks so bad
oh so you want to piece of the chung
try and go through the K
I'm sorry
nobody gets to double suck
Wang Chung until they
answer a riddle from Kelly K
this guy rules
Brian I'm going to admit
when you first started playing this guy like in the beginning
i was kind of like uh this guy's kind of mid as far as like you know he's like not that interesting
but holy shit did he turn up the dial yeah he's great he found wang chung man b and she's like
i'm really good friends with wang chung they're like my best friends like every time they come
to town we hang out i'm always on their tour bus. Like we party together.
Like they know me.
We're best friends.
And I'm just trying to get back there looking for me.
And I'm about to be like, well, hey, you're in luck.
I'm the guy.
Let's go.
And I'm about to say that.
And then she says something that changed everything.
She said, I don't really need you.
I can do this on my own.
So there's your message, everybody.
You do need Jesus. You cannot so and he's jesus
in this scenario story if for some reason you want to make wang chung
in this case you can't do it on your own you need help from jesus or kelly k
wow very yeah yeah uh so i i went to a kelly k was he was a good guy i found but then i also
let's give it around and give it up for kelly kelly kelly k thank you for bringing it he's one
of the tops um so then i i uh where is this fucking thing oh here it is okay i found this guy and it's judah smith is his name okay and uh this guy
tom you'll recognize him as a guy that looks almost fucking exactly like uh what's his name
uh pastor carl lenz he's in the middle there oh man he does he does look a lot yeah i know pastor carl lenz he is like
he is like involved in big controversies and stuff right they were in the news
he's got lens vibes yeah this guy is that really not pastor carl lenz no it's not it's not it's
judah smith he's taken over for pastor carl he really is biting his whole vibe. Somebody has to do it, man.
Somebody has to do it.
And listen, if I could be Lentz level, I would be Christian, you know?
So like if you were like if you're like a big, huge celebrity, big, huge celebrity that gets like, you know, $50,000.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
If you get to be.
Well, that's true.
I would be Christian if I got to hang out with Biebs.
You know what I mean?
If it meant that I could spend a little time on the tour bus, Biebs tour bus.
Maybe I stand at the front door.
Oh, you want to meet Justin Bieber, do you?
You can tell he's K-level there.
This is what this guy's talking about here.
He's got an interesting outlook.
Someone and start crossing lines that only hurt you, but hurt others. And so
I know for Chelsea and I, it may not be popular. I know Dr. Dobson and there are many other teachers
out there that, that teach different things, but we've definitely landed on this topic that it can be very much a a productive tool and so he's talking about
masturbation oh very interesting i'll just be very candid i love the idea of like because
masturbation is like some type of a sin or something like that like is it is it considered
to be a sin is the sin i you know me... Me and Tom have talked about that in the past.
I'm sure you have.
The scripture says that
you shouldn't sow your seed on
unfertile soil.
I got you. That's what that would be.
That would be just like spilling it out.
In fact, it goes so far as to say it's better
to put it in the belly of a whore
than to put it on the ground.
I don't like that kind
of language tom come on i i don't shoot the messenger that's uh please um but yeah so so
i just like spill yeah okay so to put it anywhere other than somewhere that's going to make a child
so i love these pastors that are so horny i I know. That they're just like, hey, you know what?
I need to make a bit of a case here for being able to jerk off.
Because otherwise I can't really do this.
As you can see from my appearance, I'm a bit of a maverick anyway.
Yeah.
I mean, this guy.
When I'm traveling away from Chelsea,
when I can fantasize about Chelsea
and use masturbation as a gift
to keep myself focused and not caught up.
So.
And this guy's just incensed over that.
This guy's reacting.
We were watching something.
It was some type of a reaction thing.
Everybody reacted to this
every single one of the young preachers reacted to this so we can hear what uh tyson james is
gonna say this guy by the way you should see he's got a big giant casey hat on right now big beard
with the fade and like a faith like hardcore band looking t-shirt that says faith everywhere or something okay
it's called self-control in these types of situations we need to utilize self-control
this guy judah smith is obviously not thinking with the right head and oh shit i wish she had air horns oh dance hall siren that's huge now now listen i have a question
do you think how many of these people do you think really don't masturbate none not a single
fucking do you think that's the case because i i don't know i think there are some people who've
never done it before they don't really know they don't really have like you know if you have a
different sort of mindset about it but is that what you think brian is that all of them are just
saying that and then they're going home and they're masturbating because they know nobody can find out
about it i just think everybody's masturbating it's not like something where like people aren't
doing it it's it's kind of they can't say they are yeah yeah of course it is one of those things
that you could never get caught because you could just go into the washroom your bathroom and you could sit there with your own mind and you
could masturbate and there'd be no way you could get caught for it you say that chris and my friend
brandon young got caught by his mom the same night sable came out with the pain on her i don't get
you i believe uh believe a few of us got caught on that particular evening, Tom. I said, what did you do?
He said, well, I just kind of acted like I was asleep,
but we made eye contact, so I don't think she bought it.
I mean, listen, eye contact is bad.
Imagine just giving it the possum routine and you're just full staff.
I think that, like, you have to be able you can get in a situation
where you can do it completely privately and there'd be no way to verify it and i think if
that were the case i'm saying that i think some of them would just do it you know but do you do
you think like this guy who's talking about this time who's saying it's a self-control do you think he the guy we just watched you think he's jacking the devil out of it yeah there's no doubt about
it did you see that story today about the new speaker of the house that freak they
nominated mike johnson i only know him because someone just sent me his cell phone number mike johnson and his son are uh masturbation accountability buddies that's right
that's right that and i was reading a lot of stuff about that a few different articles about it like
some people trying to defend him like some weird you know conservative people who are saying hey
just it's an accountability thing it's not like they're sharing it it's just of like, Hey, if I'm going to monitor what you're looking at,
it's only fair that you have access to mine, even though I'm not looking at the porno.
But I don't know though, I, as just a normal guy like me, I consider myself pretty normal.
I hear that. And I think it sounds a bit weird. Yeah. Yeah. You know, so here's more Judah here.
You're going to love the way this guy talks guys
i'm gonna tell you right now he's got um he's got hip christian pastor voice
but i'm gonna organize it like this i want to talk to people who have ever felt
like you're on the outside looking in i want to talk to anybody oh my god man that's the
same guy we saw dressed like travis kelsey off
duty like a second ago yeah yeah he's now he's got like this maroon suit with a yellow orange
t-shirt a maroon matching beanie i mean this is a it's a it's a really really it's like yeah it's
like a hip it's like a classic like look that you would imagine you'd see in Brooklyn in 2010 or something like that.
Some coffee shop.
Well, that is what they're going for, I think.
I don't know why they're trapped in.
It's kind of like how wrestlers still wear fanny packs for the whole time.
They never stopped wearing them you
know yeah and it was like why are they still wearing these this was like a thing in like 1993
and it went away but they're wearing they're wearing these and they they are stuck in this
like 1993 time well I I feel like almost all these guys unless they're a hype beast
I feel like almost all these guys, unless they're a hype beast, at which they do have a decent amount of those, unless they're a hype beast, then they are dressed like a 2010 hipster guy.
Yeah, I guess.
Was that when youth pastors were big? I definitely, when I was looking a little bit into it, I was seeing how there was like some, some definite articles about how like kids don't like these type of,
they don't respond well to them.
You know what I mean? Like it's not the right approach and it's sort of is like,
but I don't know.
I'm not that like, is this, is it as prevalent as it ever was?
Is it like a huge thing?
These cool hip youth pastors or did I have a time?
Teens can sniff it out i think is why
it's not as much now there was a moment and i think these guys are still stuck in it to a large
degree when like i want to say from like 2009 to 2013 when like kanye west was like into this stuff
like that rich wilkerson dude who you can see over here like he i guess they've done some stuff together like he that guy i think was kanye's pastor
okay and like a lot of what about lens what about like when was that like that was in 2010s
okay yeah same kind of era same era when that was when he was doing it with bieber and he
that was i remember that that was kind of like the moment publicly at least for like normal people because it was like justin bieber's like canceling tour dates to go spend
time with this hip pastor or whatever right yeah yeah yeah they're baptizing tyson chandler and
his bathtub that kind of shit yeah they go to vegas to baptize tyson chandler and his uh
yeah but there's like a very like the fashion is of that time too it's
like uh like back then everybody was wearing like the tall tees with like the skinny jeans and
chelsea boots like kind of thing like uh watch the throne era kanye west i guess very much addressed
you know and these guys kind of never grew out of that no and they're not the honest truth is
they're not trying to trick teenagers they're trying to
trick adults into spending money to get them to come and talk to their teenagers yeah you know
they want to look the way it would look but they do have to trick the teens if they want to like
create right don't they because if you get asked to come once and then their response would be so
poor to it that like wouldn't you have to at least be able to resonate with them on some level you know to be successful at it like is this guy successful this guy that we're
watching do we he is yeah but it's not because of teenagers see gotcha out it's because the pastor
at the church saw him and he's dressed this way and he's like oh the teenagers probably would
really respond to this guy because it doesn't matter.
That kind of stuff doesn't matter, I think, in the long run,
whether the teens buy into it or not.
It's kind of like we talk about those speakers, what are they called?
The motivational speakers or the speakers that dampen you.
Guys like that, right?
Like when we talk about them, it's like,
they don't seem like they have any other job
other than telling people that they're rich.
Like they don't actually make money doing anything
other than speaking at conferences and saying, I'm rich.
And like, I think a lot of this.
The pastors are just cool.
And it's like, hey, this gives some coolness to our church.
And we have this person associated with it and it makes it seem just like on the, on
the outwardly, at least on the surface level, it makes it seem more cool and appealing.
You know, it's probably enough teens that think he's cool.
I'm just saying, I don't think they buy into it as much as maybe people on the outside would think that they do.
I mean, are you going to play the video that I that one that I sent you that on the news?
Because the way that guy talks is some of the craziest.
I wanted you to hear how this guy talks.
I was willing to admit you feel sometimes like you're on the outer edge of the sacred community.
You're on the fringe of the faithful called anointed people.
You don't fit.
Sometimes you don't belong.
You don't feel godly enough.
You don't feel knowledgeable enough.
You don't feel spiritual enough.
I hate when people talk to me like this.
He knows that you listen to Pitbull more than worship music oh he dropped
mr 305 305 okay so uh yeah that's not exactly bible music safe to say this guy knows pitbull
so we have some interesting development sorry he's in miami he's so he's like he's pretty he's uh you
know i see yeah all these things on pitbull's home turf you know that's pitbull i'd fuck this guy up
nobody knows that you cuss when you're not at church and you have started to wonder am am I really fit to be blessed and so used and and called on the stage with him
by the way I don't really know that does that have some significance he's standing on this black
stage and there's this large gray Boulder in the middle of the stage that he's kind of walking
around yeah I'm not really sure what that is, but Christians love rocks. I do know that. I know that, yeah, yeah.
God.
Because that's got to be a little bit of a pervasive thought tonight, doesn't it?
After all of this, you've got to start to wonder before you go home, how will God use me?
He can fucking use me any way he wants.
It's how young VU Conference still is.
And it's a holy thing.
And I know we're not as young as we used to be.
But my friends here, Carmen.
Carmen, how old are you?
I'm going to move up here a little bit so you guys can hear him get really excited.
Because when he starts talking excited, he gets that youth pastor
accent and voice.
The accent is
a little troublesome
sometimes.
You're about to get it. Here it goes.
I do it every time. It's my
favorite one. This is my favorite one. And it's always the
walk. Because ladies,
let me let you in on a little secret.
It ain't the clothes that the man wears oh it ain't even the deodorant i mean a little bit it's how the man wears
oh okay it's the walk you ever notice these guys are all the time like trying to drop like
dating wisdom yes like that's part of their like calling you know what i mean they're like yeah
listen man uh you ever want to pick up a chick just put a bunch of quarters in your pocket and
jangle it when you want yeah you know like just shit is it would never work because you're supposed
to like have a mate is that like the way they look at it? You know, that like people are supposed to have a maid and procreate and they don't actually have good advice because they just met their wife and like, you know, Bible study or whatever, you know?
Yes.
That's where they all meet.
And they're all it's all because they're so fucking horny.
They have to get married as soon as they turn 18.
You know?
Yeah.
It's just what it is.
It's just what it is. It's just what it is.
But what I like to do with Chelsea is I'll be like,
would you still marry me if I walked like this?
Oh, did you hear that?
I'd be like, oh, he's going to do more.
He's going to do more.
I mean, this is like the guy I say.
I know.
I thought you'd like this guy after listening to the guy you sent me
because he's going to set you in the nose.
Yeah, because he's doing a really.
You know what she says?
Absolutely not.
And I'm like, I know that's right.
Oh, my God.
This is my favorite one.
I do this all the time.
That's the other thing they do besides dispense dating wisdom is they do that weird like black scent sometimes
yeah they do just an aggressive black scent that is like you don't really hear this modern day
anymore most people have sort of you know aquafina was doing it in movies for a while and they were
like you can't do that anymore you don't really hear it that much it's so offensive in a way like
when i heard this guy i heard the guy you sent me and I
was like, well, he's got the Texas
twang thing, so he's
okay. This guy does not have this.
Watch this. This was for 22 years.
Would you marry me if I walked like this?
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God, man.
Oh, no.
Oh, my God. Look how happy he is to be right there, that God, man. Oh, no. Oh, my God.
You guys should be so happy.
Look how happy he is to be racist right there.
That little still look.
You guys should be thrilled at racism.
You're not watching this right now because if you're watching it,
you would have just thrown your headphones off because you might have
already anyways, but the walk he just did.
Fly bow. Fly bow. That's how he says it.
He's like,
I'm up here walking like
Pootie Tang or something.
That's what he's...
They love those old
references. Like, this is fucked.
She says, absolutely not.
She says, I'm trying too hard.
But it's all in the walk, isn't it?
I know this isn't right, but at the end, when Pastor Mike Todd was walking off,
because he was over here and all the musicians were around him,
and then I knew he was leaving, he was sneaking out,
and I was like, watch this man walk.
You should watch this man walk. You should watch
Pastor Mike walk. Cool as
a butterfly. And there's 750
species.
You know, like...
I don't get it.
I don't get it either.
There's 750 species of butterflies.
That famous saying, cool as a butterfly.
You just want to... You know what he wanted
to say
but i don't understand why that got such a huge reaction from the crowd
based on what like the 750 like is that a rep is that something i'm missing i think it's just cool
i think they heard cool as a motherfucker i'm serious like i think in their mind their brain
changed into cool as a motherfucker and they just started laughing about because that's what he's doing yeah well he would have
said it like he would have said maw fucker cool if he was saying it yeah there's more thanks pastor
rich all right so i'm gonna try to do pastor mike's walk no walk. No, he's like this. He's like, my man. Bye-bye.
Everybody's worshiping.
I was like, look at that man of God walk.
Right?
Man of God can't be like, after a sermon like that, he can't be like.
Imagine.
That.
That.
That can't be like that.
That can't be like.
He's in like a megachurch stadium type thing
here, by the way, too. He has a
gigantic crowd of people watching
him right now.
Everybody sing it.
Imagine he's like...
He wouldn't be walking like that.
White people walk like this.
That's what he's doing.
That's literally what he is doing right now.
He's doing that bit.
Imagine
if Pastor Mike was like...
That don't fit!
Walk like a man
of God.
You know what I mean? Walk like a math teacher.
I'm kidding if you're a math teacher. Everybody
relax. Guy can't be sarc're a math teacher. Everybody relax.
Guy can't be sarcastic for 30 seconds.
Nobody was mad. Nobody was mad.
Yeah, that is such a bullshit.
The comedians do that all the time.
Oh, I guess you guys don't like it.
You know what I'm saying?
Nobody reacted at all.
You just have that built into your act because somebody reacted one single time
and you don't have the creativity and improvisational skills to think at the moment.
Bro, that's not a transition.
That's not a transition.
Is he going to a trans joke there?
Ladies, you got to check out the walk.
Oh, he's doing it. He's doing the walk i'll get the walk on patreon for the not a lot of water polo players walk like this i'll tell you that right now what i didn't get that joke i don't understand anything he's saying and all
of them seem to get it which is
really worrying me a lot like maybe there's like other stuff that was said at some other point that
we skipped over that he's making reference to but not a lot of water polo players walk like that
like i mean maybe that's true but i don't even know what like i don't know anything about water
polo players i don't have like i've never seen a water polo player wall i don't know any
of the things you're supposed to think about them any of the stereotypes or anything i've never i'm
not familiar i know that they play in the water that's all i know that's a hard one because yes
uh i had always heard that it's a incredibly hard game to play but you know i guess it's a dork game to this guy i can't i'm just kidding
pastor rich you you you you you want like a basketball player i'll be honest
oh i get what he's saying like yeah basketball players are swaggy water polo players are nerdy
or something yeah maybe he's talking about like walking in the pool,
like the way you have to like,
you know,
cause it's like,
because how are water polo players are nerdy.
Is that like a known?
I don't know.
These guys are all like cotton diesel.
I heard that sounds like you gotta be insanely in shape to play water polo.
Cause you got to tread water the whole time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh,
you have to be in great shape. just maybe it's considered like i just don't know if it is a big enough thing to
be considered a nerd thing you know what i mean it's just too niche and and doesn't really like
it doesn't make me think of nerds you know what this guy makes this guy is a nerd to me
he's pretty cool.
How long is this?
This is 49 minutes.
They always have these hour-long
fucking talks on YouTube.
She's not
supposed to be there.
You know what's wild? Some of you got
invited tonight, and you're like, who is
this guy in the red suit
with a snow cap on bro oh my god fuck
off man i fucking can't stand that shit where it's like you dress to look weird and then you're like
ah everyone's like who's this fucking guy with this shit on it's like fuck you you can't say
that about yourself when you put the clothes on i hate this guy a lot i the other guy i want
to i want kelly k back i want wang chung guy who would who put like to play god when people
were trying to meet wang chung that was just fun you know very funny here also that guy had no
audience and this guy has a big audience oh yeah he does
you brought me out to listen to this joker with a fake foam rock on stage
this is crazy it's like it's just so crazy to do it all yourself and present it it's just all
so contrived and that to tell you but to actually sort of describe on stage how contrived it is.
And it's just so weird for me to hear.
Yeah.
And you feel like you're on the outside looking in.
I mean, this is as hip Christian as you can get.
I really think this is the most hip Christian guy.
This guy is the hip Christianity.
What Michael Nolan does, the classic rock guy.
Yeah, this guy is the top.
I mean, Kelly Kaye is going to live forever in our hearts.
I mean, anybody who basically says to some old lady who just wants to talk to her old friends and Wang Chung, it starts playing God with them.
I mean, that's a guy who's going to live in my memory forever.
But I hate this guy. Oh, he's got more who's going to live in my memory forever. But this guy, I hate this guy.
Oh, he's got more.
I got good news for you.
You might be incorporated into the story tonight.
She says she's smattering.
Anybody ever heard a message from this chapter?
Anybody?
How many ever heard Luke chapter 8?
Okay, church people. Wow gotta get in la there'll be like four people i think so you know
i love florida yeah all right i got a question why is why does he just like just run a lot
yeah he moves a lot he moves around the stage a lot if i had to guess it's he watched chris rock
he's doing chris rock or cat williams cat williams yeah yeah that's that williams will be all over
the stage i mean i've seen a clip of cat williams on like a round stage you know like in the round
everyone's running and he walked around the outside like paced around the outside of it
in a circle as he was telling this bit it's one of the best fucking stand-up clips i've ever seen yeah dang cook did
it with that vicious circle show it's not good i'm not saying yeah i think it's different than
cat cat williams listen he has obviously a bit of a wild man but cat williams in his day a really
really good stand-up comedian well let's take a look at a few posts.
This one's from the Young Life board, which is teens.
And this is the pastor.
Okay.
And then he goes, ratio talk.
As of recently at my campaign,
I have noticed my students saying words like ratio and elbow. Bozo.
A lot of people choosing words to describe me such as I love this ignorance of it.
I love it.
I'm not sure how to reply to this.
Has anybody else ever experienced this?
Is this this new slang that I haven't caught on to,
or am I being disrespected?
That's both. It would be both, sir.
It is.
Yeah, it is new slang that they are using to disrespect you.
Well, we did get an answer.
It was you're being disrespected 1,000%.
Found out from my students that ratio is not a good thing
that's so so good these i love this these youth pastors who are like their whole thing is
connecting to the youth you know and they're just so detached from it and just like all these youth
people are just fucking constantly mocking and making fun of them.
Well, they're 37 too. You got to give them credit as in like they're past 35.
I would say most of these youth pastors are.
I mean, I was just going to say, hey, but I'm 39 and I know it.
Like I was going to say like that was something good.
And then I realized, wait, that that's bad i shouldn't know that
stuff you're being disrespected 1000 found out from my students that ratio is not a good thing
you basically say it to expose someone el bozo reportedly means lost fool i told my guys we
would add bonus time if they kept it up and I hadn't heard it since so give
that a shot so oh that's smart hey hey if you keep doing that you'll have to stay in my study
thing for longer and the lord knows how much they hate that listen to me talk I love how that person
also um translated bozo yeah yeah yeah yeah fool because they you know it was like l l bozo basically means
lost fool so they they also translated the word bozo well they he was like oh i thought he was
calling me bozo the clown who was like a really great host of and also quite beloved in his day
yeah prince of chicago Prince of Chicago So this is from our Christianity
Is it a sin buying designer clothes
And hype-y stuff if it's a hobby
And an interest
Like you spend a lot on one piece of clothing
Or a sneaker you know
So this guy went to
Unfortunately the wrong place
To ask this question
Because our Christianity I don't know if you guys aren't going to ask this question because our Christianity
I don't know if you guys aren't going to believe this
this is not a very hip
section of the internet
the just general catch all
Christianity subreddit
it's not where the cool people are
what say they though
I'm worried now
just curious
this motherfucker's worried what's that
i had to do the judah
yeah did they answer though did they answer did anybody tell them if yep it's not a sin when it
becomes your eye and when it it's not a sin when it doesn your eye and when it, it's not a sin when it doesn't become
your idol.
So if it becomes more important to you than God, then that's some thin ice you're traversing
upon.
So you can do whatever you want and you just have to be like, God is still more important
than that.
Yeah.
Certain things you can only, you can do that.
Probably some sins are like mortal sins or whatever.
Right.
So yeah.
And of course you should reserve time for God every single day.
Recently, I reserved during work days two hours,
even if I may not spend an entire two hours with him,
but usually at least one.
And well, as for actually buying things,
you should be fine as long as you don't waste too much money
that you should spend on other important things.
If it troubles you too much,
you can ask,
you can directly ask the Lord in deep prayer.
If he allows it.
Find their work.
We'll find their workplace where that person works.
Report them for time theft.
Two hours a day.
They're spending with God instead of working.
It will get you fired up.
Well,
I do like the end of it where it's like,
well,
you know,
this guy goes to the subreddit to ask.
He's obviously asked God already.
No kidding.
Yeah.
Now he's looking for a second opinion.
But that's his biggest mistake because you don't need a second opinion when you ask God.
Yeah.
Sorry.
That is like I do feel like it's hard for them because of all the megachurch pastors who have all those planes and stuff like that, right?
I do feel like that idea of like, you shouldn't like buy a bunch of stuff is sort of, I don't know.
That one seems like they're a little free and easy with that one in the religious circles, you know?
When that guy bought the preachers and sneakers guy gets
like death threats constantly have you ever seen that instagram no so there's an instagram where a
guy goes and looks at these young christian guys these young pastors and stuff and he looks at
their shoes and then puts the stock x page of how much the shoes cost it's preachers and sneakers and
like they're all wearing like balenciaga and uh like and he's just sort of being like hey you guys
think that they're dressed like bums or whatever you know what i mean so yeah yeah they're trying
to make it seem like they're kind of of the people but here no one
who's of the peoples has shoes that are 800 bucks or whatever so this is one where it's steve furtick
oh i i know this steve furtick is a really famous uh pastor yeah and he's he's wearing a balenciaga
triple s nylon black and uh 467 so and they have the $800 colorway.
So like this whole page is just that it's,
it's all like just talking about this guy.
He looks incredible.
His name is Casey D treat.
And he is wearing a star logo track jacket from golden goose,
which is $325 and oversized white sneakers 590 and he looks truly
insane he looks it looks like the owner of the raiders or whatever it looks like al davis yeah
he really he's this guy's very old just to be clear like he's like this is such a funny photo
because he's so old and he's wearing these hip young clothes it looks like
the buscemi meme almost honestly it's not as ridiculous it is so anyway i did i then decided
look i gotta go to the christian heavy metal subreddit see what's going on and tom actually
met one of the guys from striper which i'm i'm always going to be uh michael sweet yeah yeah
met one of the guys from striper which i'm i'm always going to be uh michael sweet yeah yeah and what was the context of that meeting uh i used to run this uh venue and he played a solo
show there and it was the weirdest show ever because we sold almost no booze but ran out of
coke for our mixers because everybody was just drinking cokes all night.
And my bartenders were pissed.
They were like, nobody tips,
and they're just buying dollar cokes all night long.
That's beautiful.
Was he playing religious music?
He was playing some of the stripped-down versions of Striper songs from the 80s.
I mean, to hell with the devil.
He did, yeah. He played to hell with the devil is he did yeah he
played to hell with the devil acoustic i think if i recall sure played that that's a famous song
that's a famous song that's well the album yeah yeah oh okay oh it's an album that's that is a
great name i i gotta i gotta give it up that is the video christian album they were i don't know
is that right that brown they were the first contemporary christian
band to go platinum or something like that they were fucking massive like i was really into striper
when i was seven or eight or nine or something like that just because they were on this like
they would be on mtv and on the countdown at the same time as like guns and roses like rat and
docking and shit like that so they were they were like in the mainstream as well oh yeah my my uncle goes well he hasn't done it in a while but he went
to a striper convention and like uh it was just a full convention about striper and he went in there
and you know they had memorabilia and like talks about striper and then the band was there signing autographs and stuff
like that it's a really insanely niche thing to have a uh to have a seminar or whatever about but
you know so i looked at christian metal and they asked the question now you guys probably aren't
going to know this kind of music but there are people that will, I promise. This guy asked if Christian gore grind exists,
which is a subgenre of metal.
And he gets an answer, right?
And I'm going to read you the names of these bands,
these Christian bands.
Vomitorial corpulence,
demonic dismemberment,
rehumanize
Eternal Mystery
Flactorophia
Empty Grave and Flesh Denial
So those are some of the bands
in the Goregrind scene
if everybody wants it.
But there's also death metal bands.
And that's Crimson Thorn
Disarticulating Extuishment horseman i could
have made up a game disarticulating extinguishment yes disarticulating disarticulating extinguishment
that is the name of a christian death metal band you missed the boat here not doing your
your fame i didn't have i didn't't find it until it was way too late.
You know what I mean?
I hate those kind of names so bad.
I know.
Horseman of the Apocalypse is one that's a little better.
But then you get into Disencumbrance.
Oh.
Disencumbrance is one of the worst brand names I've heard.
Hardcore bands do that too where they just make up words kind of.
Yeah, put words together
like it's sort of sound you know like yeah yeah so uh here's a question that was asked on the
christian metal form does this first mean it's wrong to listen to songs that are about evil things
finally brothers and sisters whatever is true whatever is noble whatever is right whatever
is pure whatever is lovely whatever is admirable if anything is excellent or praiseworthy think about such things
so he's asking like i'm gonna listen to some pretty nasty stuff his bible verse makes me nervous
moose bear can you imagine you're reading the bible and like you're just you know you're going
through it and then you see something that's like you're not you're not supposed to be doing this
you've been doing it a lot yeah yeah that must be a tough like oh crap i think that's why it's
important that the first thing that you ever read is the bible and what it's one of the first things
you ever do period is read the bible so yeah's one of the first things you ever do, period, is read the Bible.
So you don't make any of those mistakes and you know what you're allowed to do
and what you're not allowed to do right off the bat.
My kids can be reading the Bible.
I, of course, have my partners with child right now.
And I'm telling you, as soon as he can read, he will be reading the Bible.
A Christian, get him into a class with like judah
oh his name his name is gonna be judah yeah judah chin
that guy judah smith get him in a class with judah jen too yeah he's gonna be actually i mean i'm
gonna do i'm gonna name i said to ariel that what about
chris jr and it's just funny can you imagine i don't know i mean what if i guess if it's like
a thing you do in your family but the audacity to give your child the same name as you that makes
vince mcmahon so mad that nobody has ever been allowed to be a junior in WWE ever because he's Vince Jr.
Yeah, I know.
And the old guys called him Vince Jr. and he fucking hated it.
I still call him Vince Jr. because I'm a territory guy.
I was back WWWF back when it was fucking Vince Sr., baby.
That is the hip Christian, guys always tom you're the
best hey thanks guys i always love come news yeah and uh yeah tom you rule i will say that we
recorded this on my birthday it's my birthday today and when brian was like oh my god i should
have done it on a different day and i was like buddy there's no better birthday present than
getting to sit down for an hour and talk to my friend tom so you know what we did the spaghetti monster on my
birthday if y'all recall so oh yeah or like the day before but yeah i'll find something silly on
my birthday for us to do when's your birthday when's your birthday january the 18th that's
exciting so that's coming up fairly soon. Yeah. Fairly soon.
We're going to have a birthday.
We're going to have a big celebration on guys.
Actually, it gets close.
We're getting so close to episode 52, which is going to do a month.
It's going to be a month.
It's going to be episode 52.
We'll be Lego guys.
We're going to do episode 52 will be lego guys we're wrestling guys you you are you and we're
gonna do uh all the ones that people want that wait so you don't want to hold off and people
might be getting mad at me right now and saying chris shut your mouth just let him do it but you
don't want to hold off maybe one of them for the 100th episode maybe you know we do wrestling
well yeah we could probably do wrestling guys for the because
people aren't begging for that we get i want to do lego guys for the year anniversary and i have
always promised lego guys for the year anniversary can i just can i uh just this i have done a couple
i've done this a couple of times and i wouldn't mind doing this i think it would be good if maybe
i and maybe somebody else found the lego guys stuff and not you because i just feel like you might have a certain slant to some of these that you
put your finger on the scale a little bit right i will never make i mean yes brian's just playing
clips like well this guy actually sounds pretty smart and good it would be so hard for me to find somebody saying legos are uncool
yeah well listen i can find it so yeah you just leave it up to me i will find and i can find
plenty of people saying legos aren't cool and i can find plenty of examples of lego guys not being
cool so i will do it no problem everyone yeah it, we're going to do sex guys too, I think.
And Pastafarian too would probably be a fun.
We're going to go back and do a couple of.
Yeah.
We're going to start doing some part twos for a month.
This is going to be a celebration of guys.
I love it.
Which is a month or two away.
So it's not even that cool.
We will see you next week.
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