Guys: With Bryan Quinby - Guys: Episode 44 - MCU Guys With Vince Mancini

Episode Date: December 12, 2023

This week on Guys we have MCU guys, they love the comic book movies, no, not all of the comic book movies, just the Marvel ones. We talk a bit about how many of the movies we have seen and then we rea...d a Marvel spec script and listen to a rap song! This week as our guest we have movie critic and podcaster Vince Mancini https://twitter.com/VinceMancini from the podcast Pod Your Self a Wire  There is much more Chris at youtube.com/noteveashow and twitter.com/notevenashow and of course https://www.patreon.com/notevenashow And for more Guys content, streams and SHOCKTOBER: a deep dive into shock jocks you can click patreon.com/murderxbryan twitter.com/murderxbryan and twitch.tv/murderxbryan

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to Guys, a podcast about guys. I am Brian, and with my co-host the edward norton of guys hi chris well okay i mean he's a respected actor so i mean not in this world he's yeah no i'm gonna take that as a huge compliment one of the nicest ones you've said to me in the intros for sure and i see you shaking your head but i don't care one of the worst i don't not care what your intent is i am taking that as a compliment thank you so much brian i appreciate that you motherfucker and from pod yourself a gun we have vince mancini what's up vince hey how's it going i'm very excited to be here are you a mcu we're doing mcu guys that's why it's an insult to call chris edward norton yeah they know it's
Starting point is 00:01:07 the name of the episode would it be an insult if it wasn't an mcu uh no but where i'm an mcu guy okay so yeah he's my world yeah he does this really insufferable thing where he like becomes the guy for that week and he like pretends like he knows all the stuff and i would say i mean edward norton we could agree he's a good actor right he isn't and he isn't i don't think he's done anything bad has he this guy can't play the hulk for no i know but you know what i mean like real world stuff he has trying to rewrite his movies i know this guy doesn't know anything about the Incredible Hulk. Yeah. No, he's an actor in the movie. I don't know why you should know anything about it. That's not really a big deal in my opinion.
Starting point is 00:01:53 So let's start. Chris, one thing I know, I know that you see every movie. So are you an MCU head? So are you an MCU head? Now, I will say I'm not a comic book person. So I came at it from the angle strictly as a movie goer who used to go to every single movie in the theater. So I'd obviously go to all the Marvel movies. And so I used to be into them, I think, when it was like cool to be into them and everyone thought they were good. I was like, yeah, I agree with everyone.
Starting point is 00:02:30 And then I sort of noticed, along with everybody else, that they started to sort of get bad. And I'll be honest, I haven't seen all of the recent ones. I will give mine after Vince. Vince, were you ever or are you an MCU guy? I think I'm with chris like i was never a comic book guy per se but i was also a professional film critic basically from like 2007 until earlier this year so it's kind of hard to like when you do it for a living it's sort of like it's hard to know exactly like would i be seeing this like just for myself if it wasn't a job? So I basically,
Starting point is 00:03:07 you have to see all of them. Exactly. I mean, and those are, they've been like the biggest movies, the biggest like industry that whole time. So I've seen basically every MCU movie up until the Marvels, which I didn't see,
Starting point is 00:03:21 but yeah, I did not see the Marvels either. I, but I, I guess i've seen most of the other ones i'm trying to think if i missed any of them i guess i did see the other recent ones i just guess i didn't like them i wasn't excited about them like i was for the other ones um i guess i was never really super excited but it was kind of fun going back and
Starting point is 00:03:41 watching you know all the avengers movies or whatever like trying to watch them in order you know it was kind of fun to do that oh i never do that well i mean not i didn't do it in like a short period of time over like a very long period of time i did it you know but yeah it was i mean i definitely got into the characters and i thought these are these are good superhero movies they're you know they look good they have good character development they you know they they bring you in for sure but the last one anymore though yeah that's they think that and i think i'm obviously not i'm not the first one to say this but i think they've maybe leaned a little heavy into the cgi the green screen and stuff like that and they would be better off doing some more practical shooting possibly so i'll say this i have
Starting point is 00:04:35 now i can't say every single movie right i have seen that's kind of sad all the movies except i had i did not finish shang chi and the eternals those are the only two i didn't finish how come they sucked like they were i didn't mind shang chi i didn't mind shang chi i saw it in the theaters i think i was probably on mushrooms i should say that as well i think the key thing to remember when I am describing my experiences at these movies, I'm oftentimes on mushrooms if I'm watching a superhero. Not a large amount, but a small amount of mushrooms if I'm watching superheroes. It's the way they should be. When I saw Shang-Chi, I thought that movie was so dark.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Just not thematically, but there was whole scenes where I couldn't see actors' faces to the point where I went to find a manager of the theater to be like, hey, is it supposed to be like this? And he said it was, and I don't believe him.
Starting point is 00:05:40 I think it was because that was my impression. Okay. Because projection is so bad now that like i'm i live in fresno so i'm not like in a major movie market so like they don't care like unless you're in a major market like they just don't care usually oh we have in vancouver we i'll tell you what we got some beautiful theaters to show some real i know we do chris pitcher what we do have some good good theaters up i mean i'm sure you do too but canada where i live um so i have seen the marvels and it's funny that you what you
Starting point is 00:06:16 said vince because the movie started when i was at the me and my wife went to see the marvels when we were in alaska because we didn't have anything else to do. And I have to see these movies opening weekend. And I don't know why. I seriously have no idea. But I have seen all of these movies opening weekend, except for Eternals and Shang-Chi. It's got to be because they like play on your sense of completeness. Like it's you, it's like you started something and then you have to finish it.
Starting point is 00:06:45 I think that's like the main draw at this point so we were in alaska and it gets dark so early there so you can't do much you you got like six hours to do whatever you're gonna do during the day and then it's night pretty pretty uneventful trip to alaska like the flight there there and uh yeah it wasn't too much going on there he didn't become a huge make a huge scene on the plane where everybody was sort of concerned for your well being
Starting point is 00:07:13 Vince just he basically he got so sick looking like that people the actual the flight attendant said he looked insane and then they made him sympathize the toilet and then he just blew his ass out and just destroyed the toilet on the plane was this like a full-size plane or was it like a smaller plane where people could
Starting point is 00:07:39 full-size full-size plane and a full-size shit let me tell you i would say bigger than full-size plate and a full-size shit let me tell you i would say bigger than full size yeah this is an extra size you've never seen yeah i mean well some people have seen it if in our discord you could see there is this was bigger than that for sure it was bigger than the than the famous one than the fairy oh my god there was like six of them oh i see so you just kept going i definitely like the idea of being told you need to shit by a stranger. Like just taking one look at you and being like, all right, dude. You got to get on the pod. You got to expel some shit.
Starting point is 00:08:12 I don't know from where, but you got to get some stuff out of your body. I was hoping to barf and she asked me and I was like, well, I'm kind of hoping to barf. Yeah, Brian loves barfing. He thinks it's like good or something. Comparatively. No, it definitely isn't. We're not going to have this debate. hoping to barf yeah brian loves barfing he thinks it's like good or something comparatively no it definitely isn't we're not gonna have this debate but it's definitely not better than shitting i don't i mean just on average you know i mean i could see you think you like accomplished more with it because you know yeah so i saw i saw the marvels in a theater in Alaska, and they turned it on, and it was the 3D version on accident because I was in the IMAX.
Starting point is 00:08:51 And so I didn't even notice. Somebody had to get up. I was like, oh, I thought it looked a little weird, but I don't think I was paying enough attention to it. You didn't notice that it was doing the blurry 3D thing? I thought it was just it wasn't doing the blurry like 3d thing it's like something for the movie well there's also a thing where like they leave there's an extra filter i think for like a 3d projection where like it comes out in two separate beams and a lot of times they'll accidentally like leave it on through non-3d showings and it just makes things like dark and i forget yeah i hate 3d so i go yeah um the marvels i will
Starting point is 00:09:28 say it's the best of the new ones i yeah i'm gonna and that's i mean compared to you're comparing it to eternals uh shang chi guardians of the galaxy volume three yeah and i lost quantumania wakanda forever i liked i didn't mind wakanda forever i mean listen i didn't i'll tell you what the ones that i really like eternals i was like oh come on it can't be so bad like everyone said but it was really bad it was almost good because it was like you're watching this uh i mean at that point it was like this streamlined like solid solid b minus movie every time out and uh and then you're right internals was just you're like watching the wheels fall off you're at your
Starting point is 00:10:10 shoot out of it and it was kind of entertaining in that way because i was like finally this uh this well-oiled machine is just crumbling yeah i totally agree with you on that that yeah that the other ones were just always like up to that it was kind of like yeah okay yeah this is yeah that was fun whatever i was on mushrooms and it wasn't the worst time i've ever had but well i saw the eternals at the official premiere and it was like the biggest production like there was police like on rooftops there was like snipers pro yeah oh yeah there was like protesters like when we were walking in what were they protesting i mean it was like this was coming out of the pandemic so i think they were like vaccine you know quarantine like we had to show our vaccination cards to get in and
Starting point is 00:10:58 they were they were just you know like the it's the sort of crazy people that show up at any la thing that they think a lot of people are going to be at just to have like a bigger audience for their crisis and then they have like fake red carpet reporters like with marvel uh things on the microphones and like i don't know it struck me at that point that it was it had become like an nft scheme basically yeah it's like they owned these like worthless things called the eternals and nobody knew nobody knows what the fuck those are like at this point like nobody gives a shit even the like dorkiest comic book people were like i don't give a shit about
Starting point is 00:11:35 eternals but they were trying so hard to like make the value of that ip go up and it seemed like that was the entire purpose of the entire event and movie yeah and and and were the were the people from the movie there uh yeah yeah when they're there though right yeah it was definitely like i was not walking out at the same time and i think long long film too yeah like you had to sit through a long film yeah i watched it at home because it was so long and i thought i would like to take a break i didn't i just couldn't finish it i just me my wife and my daughter turned it on and we were watching it and we got probably 45 minutes into it we're like this i can't it's i mean it's the only superhero movie to feature superheroes having
Starting point is 00:12:25 slow missionary sex on the beach that's true i found some fiction uh some some uh some stuff that some people wrote about you know uh spider-man and she-hulk what do you mean like like scripts and stuff scripts for like yeah for projects so that projects? So things that never got developed? Or what are we talking about here? This is probably something they haven't filmed, I don't think. Oh, this is fan stuff. Well, maybe. I see.
Starting point is 00:12:54 This is really horny MCU guys writing a bunch of horny fan fiction. Maybe. So Peter Parker is at the avengers i'm skipping some stuff here but where are you finding this where are you finding this i found this on x-men dot adult slash fan fiction dot org okay so you found it on a porno so i mean this is a script somebody wrote this is a treatment it's called a spec script in the business though i know what it's called but yeah so this is on a porto website just to be clear i guess i mean i think like adults can watch these movies too they're not just kids movies
Starting point is 00:13:38 no i mean no i listen i agree that i'm an adult and i've watched some as i just mentioned and enjoyed them. I think that they are, you know, they should be maybe geared more towards kids. We could have that disagreement. But this is different. These are modern myths. Yes, they are. And look, so Peter Parker's at the Avengers place, that their big building.
Starting point is 00:14:03 And he's looking out over New York. Up from behind him comes She-Hulk. She taps on his shoulder. He goes, he would, hold on. Why don't you just read it? He goes, because it's very long. He would soon have it. He was basically looking over the New York skyline over the balcony when a hand touched his shoulder.
Starting point is 00:14:23 He was so shocked that he actually jumped. He didn't hear the person behind him at all he immediately turned back thinking that someone had actually broken into their base and he was ready for a fight flip an accent there uh but when he saw who it was he relaxed immediately it was jennifer walters otherwise known as she-hulk so so she-hulk's like would be loud and make a lot of noise spider-man didn't notice somebody coming up behind him he was thinking about stuff you know what i mean he's probably having a but what if it was a bad it would he'd be dead but yeah that's true if she-hulk was bad he would be dead right she's normal size until she gets angry right oh i see so so she's she was in her but
Starting point is 00:15:05 he says she oh he said the name of her well he does say no less so because because hulk is like if i said i met the i met with the hulk that would mean i met with him hulked out otherwise i would say bruce banner or whatever right but he did say the name of her right she i think she because he goes on an easy day off like this she was only wearing a tiny little black tank top and some tight little jean shorts. Did you say a tank top? Tank top. No, I said tank top. That's not fair.
Starting point is 00:15:31 Before getting bitten by that radioactive spider and entering the new life he was living now, he never in a million years thought he would have so many girls at his feet. But even after having all those babes, most guys would count themselves lucky to just have one of even after having like that is just written like this is obviously like a 13 year old kid right can you imagine having so many babes i can't spider-man probably has tons of babes yeah i mean like an actual child if i had the amount of babes. Spider-Man has access to, Oh,
Starting point is 00:16:09 I would love to know. I would love to be babes. I can see why, you know, the idea of a woman who like grows bigger and bursts out of her clothes when she gets excited, excited. I can see how that would appeal to people. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:23 Green people find monsters sexy as well. We know this guy, Count Dracula, who finds them sexy, just monsters, no matter what. We're talking about nasty-looking monsters. Nasty-looking monsters to you and I. Not traditionally sexy monsters. Even those, he'll be like, like well i'm turned on by that yeah yeah he goes uh he would count himself lucky to have just one of these he also did he always did find this green-skinned woman ridiculously hot he was looking over her for that perfect
Starting point is 00:16:57 mix of feminine beauty and hard muscle yeah that's what we're all looking for that mix between feminine and hard just massive gains you know like just femininity and the ability to fucking well and then then she suddenly grabs his crotch and he sucked in his breath and it wasn't just his surprise it was also the strength she was using he never had a woman grab him there that hard. Yet it was far from uncomfortable. She was massaging the lump in his pants slow and carefully with just the right amount of force. Peter Parker is written as a high school student, right? Yes.
Starting point is 00:17:39 Generally speaking, just in the projects I know, I know there are definitely different. No, there's different versions of spider-man peter parker is a is a high school student yeah yeah i mean he's uh he's bashful that's that's part of this character you know he doesn't he's not used to having well definitely no but i just like how old is she oh i i think she's she's a lawyer is what i know about yeah but we'll come back to this she's like she's teacher aged and he's student age like i mean this isn't this isn't really it almost does seem like yeah this is written by a student himself who's sort of you know thinking about
Starting point is 00:18:17 this from that angle yeah that that is true um we're going to come back to this in a little bit we don't have to i think it's a little sexier as it goes we don't like it just we gotta have other stuff to look at i'm sure you don't have to come back to it okay so here's a theory i read on on mcu theory subreddit which is a wild subreddit i will say one of the one of the more uh people don't understand that it's fiction places i've been to on the internet he's saying that they sort of fall into it sometimes and it gets a little blurry for him maybe spider-man landings in no way home it's a small theory but in the final fight in no way home when all three spider-men land together after regrouping you can notice the way each lands corresponds to their experience. Makes me think
Starting point is 00:19:05 it's intentional as to how obvious it is. Tom Holland lands with one hand on the ground, spread out legs and the other hand in the air. We know the hand on the ground implies he's trying to keep his balance and thus shows the least amount of experience when compared to the other two. Andrew Garfield is very similar to Tom Holland's stance stance but no hand on the ground to balance him just two hands stretched out pretty experienced toby mcguire lands like an actual spider on a small pole as compared to the other two landing on overall flat wide services the most experienced yeah he has the most experience because he's the oldest spider-man yeah from the earlier movies yeah i mean i would put that for me personally i would put that i would toss that in my who cares book just write
Starting point is 00:19:52 it on the who cares book and toss it away but yeah i get maybe like hey it's fun to listen it's fun i like to i personally prefer to enjoy films yeah but i think then i like to you know look at things like that but most of the time i just like just like to enjoy them while i watch them you know yeah i think like the one of the main hallmarks of the mcu guys is that they assume an amount of intentionality in all of this stuff that is just so far beyond and at odds with the reality of how they're made. I remember having an argument with someone online about quote-unquote spoilers in a review of one of these movies, and his position was that if it's in a trailer
Starting point is 00:20:42 or any of the marketing things, then it's not a trailer or any of the marketing things then it's not a spoiler and if it's not in any of those it is officially a spoiler like they were assuming a level of coordination that goes like extends all the way to like every piece of marketing that the movie yeah they they treat them like real like real serious like artistic sort of films like made by artistic people with artistic intentions and things like that like which even but that extends to like the marketing department i don't think it's like a scorsese fan or whatever would assume that there's a separation between like the stuff you see in the film and, and like what the trailer looks like. They're like,
Starting point is 00:21:26 Hey, we know that we're, so you don't think there's any possibility that they keep things out of the trailer that they'll, because they would be a spoiler. I don't think they do. No, I think that's,
Starting point is 00:21:39 yeah, I think that's like the marketing department, but I think if you're an MCU head, you think that like Kevinvin feig is just sitting somewhere with like a fucking crystal ball and he knows exactly not only that does he have a plan for what you're supposed to see before the movie and in the movie like you're not supposed to go against that or else you're like a bad fan something i something i thought about when i started doing the research for this episode was the post-credit and mid-credit scenes and how, like, most of them have nothing to do with anything that's coming later.
Starting point is 00:22:15 But people automatically assume that they have some, because in the early days, they did have something to do with. But, like, one of them has Howard the Duck in it. And you're just like, he's not going to be in another movie. And they remind me of wrestling fans. In that these people will turn three hours of wrestling on a week. And they will start ascribing a lot. These people? Yeah, like wrestling fans.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Okay. Which is exactly like wrestling fans okay exactly which is exactly like uh mcu fans no i agree but it's just the way you're describing them it seems almost like you're not including yourself in that okay well they i don't include myself in this type of thing okay fair enough show and they watch it and they see all these little things that happen that they perceive as being like this is gonna pay off later when the people making the wrestling are fucking stupid they're not like it they're not trying to they're not like laying breadcrumbs definitely the aew ones are stupid for sure anyone who's writing aew storylines is a buffoon definitely Definitely. I saw somebody posted, by the way, shout out to whoever.
Starting point is 00:23:26 I don't know if it was in the discord or the Patreon. They said, Chris has got to shut the fuck up about the wrestling. He does no shit. So shout out to that person. I will never be silenced. I will continue to speak out against AEW. I call it all friends wrestling. And I'm, you know, WWE till I die. WWE obviouslywf obviously i'm not going to defend aew right now
Starting point is 00:23:49 frisky spatula did reply to this and he goes my thought is tom holland is doing the classic superhero landing that he saw natasha do and thinks that is the way you're supposed to land but regrets not being able to do the hair flip andrew garfield's reality became dark so he is ready to fire off his web shooters as soon as he lands toby mcguire has experienced in a balanced outlook on life therefore he knows it's important to have a higher vantage point so he can observe the entire situation and develop a plan so frisky spatula a lot of i'm glad he broke that down for us i just think there's just so many other you could just go watch other stuff you could still like the mcu stuff and you get a lot watch that but you could go watch others instead of thinking about this
Starting point is 00:24:41 stuff so much like i don't i just these movies are not meant like you they're not meant to be thought about this much they're just meant to be watched and enjoyed and maybe reflected on a few times and how much you enjoyed them i also think a lot of the listeners to this show might not have seen the movie so i i got this let me know what's up 10 minute This is a wrap Here we go Thank you for the final warning for spoilers. Aw, thank you for the final warning for spoilers. It's very nice.
Starting point is 00:25:29 I assumed there would be spoilers. Yeah. We're going way back, almost 12 years ago. So without any further ado, here we go. In the very first spot, we got the homie Tony Stark, the only billionaire. Playboy philanthropist on the block. Kidnapped by terrorists. He ruined their entire plan. Turned the box of scraps into a fully suited Iron Man.
Starting point is 00:25:52 The guy who set him up was over Dio Sane. Took the reactor out. Is this good? Is this a good rap? I mean, it's fine, I think. You love it. It rhymes. I feel like that's like the number one. It's good.
Starting point is 00:26:01 Listen, I don't want to listen anymore. You're going to have to because there's more explanation to be found. Boo. We hate that one. By the way, just for you guys listening, they just showed Edward Norton on the screen.
Starting point is 00:26:29 That's why Brian's booing. Yeah, fuck him. That's one of the seven things he learned and picked up that he's now going to say. We have looked at The Eternals. We talked about The Eternals, so I thought I would read to Wumba's question. What's with all The Eternals hate?
Starting point is 00:26:45 I'm one of those who have seen every MCU movie but never actually seen the comics. I saw Eternals today without any information. Never even watched the trailer. I don't think this is the best MCU movie. I like the idea of you see a comic. You don't read it. You just see it. All the comics.
Starting point is 00:27:02 But I also don't think it's particularly shitty that is like a really good uh uh i kind of like that well it's not shitty which is a low level however i'm on my on my way out i found this is the worst rated mcu movie on both imdb and rotten tomatoes which was pretty shocking to me since this was one of the mid-rangers to me not the rock bottom can any tell anybody tell me where the hate is coming from well i think i would need to i need to we need to see your list we need to see the ones that you feel are bad and then we can have this discussion about you know why this is maybe not considered because because that's
Starting point is 00:27:43 bizarre i think this is considered to be one of the worst ones by most everybody right oh that's one of the things oh right claw said if you thought this movie was quote fantastic you have a flawed way of measuring movies which that's whoa that's like the guy that said wow good food reviews are objective yeah yeah food is yeah that this is i mean listen i think that's that's unfair you can i think there is people who probably did legitimately enjoy this movie well but then this guy says and you have a flawed point of view if it's important to you how others perceive a certain movie and then we get a reply from oric lol and he goes like this it's important to me
Starting point is 00:28:25 because the quality of just about everything on earth continues to decrease on average because the average consumer tolerates just about any piece of shit that is put in front of them well wait well which person is saying this this is the guy that originally said that you have a flawed view of movies yeah yeah fantastic he goes video games music movies food it's all mass-produced garbage and people continue to say gee that was fucking awesome idiocracy is coming true oh he did listen in my opinion i often would watch that movie i watch it three to four times a week, Idiocracy. And a lot of the times when I watch it, I'm like, is this a movie? Or is this Michael Moore's latest documentary on the future of America?
Starting point is 00:29:14 I say that about two out of the four times I watch it every week. Chris, it's coming true. And we should be worried about it. It's coming true. And if you want to know how to deal with the issues of today, just watch the movie Idiocracy. It's basically a blueprint of what we're dealing with today. Come on.
Starting point is 00:29:34 This guy, I can picture this guy. This guy is like, I think he's got kind of vibes like Tim Heidecker in that I think you should leave sketch where he's like the jazz. He's like an older guy that's hanging out this guy who's making this comment here is listen he's not wrong he's not even wrong you know there there's some truth to what he's saying but you just also know that he's like he's always saying it and he's like horrible to be around can i say that being in the mcu subreddit talking about marvel cinematic universe movies and then also saying something's mass-produced garbage yeah might be seeking out battles there possibly yeah well if other mass-produced
Starting point is 00:30:20 garbage could reach the heights of the big Mac. It would be celebrated equally, and there's a reason that the Big Mac's the gold standard and everything else is second rate. Yeah. She was right on top of him. The two lovers were giggling wildly, still holding each other with her right on top of him. That left plenty of opportunities to caress her firm upper body.
Starting point is 00:30:43 He wasn't interested in that ass of hers at all. Instead, he was feeling up her chiseled abs. Crawling all over my stomach, little spider. That's just very nice at all. Your little legs making me tingle wherever they go. I think she's saying Spider-Man's an actual spider, maybe. His legs are making her tingle all over wow okay she's getting tingles all over yeah crawling all uh he goes oh you think that's bad you should get a taste of my venom
Starting point is 00:31:13 he said and moving his head lower sunk his teeth right into her abs she threw her head back he's very flexible i guess she's big but he also doesn't have venom i i wouldn't say that does man have venom i think this person's confused about spiderman's power yeah he just he saw an opportunity for a giantess sort of story yeah i mean there's obviously the famous you know villain venom he's not in the room though despite being so much smaller than her and in that submissive position under her he was completely in control as he was still teasing her abs with his teeth he moved his hand up her little wait wait wait wait so this doesn't listen yeah again this isn't this is not that much to do with this is mcu even with how swole she was he was surprised that her breasts are
Starting point is 00:32:06 still as large as they were but even with the novelty of having such a beautiful beefcake of a woman with him beautiful beefcake of a woman he was still able to appreciate her lovely breasts. He made sure to grope them, sinking his fingers into the soft flesh of her pliant mouth. Sinking your fingers into the... It's like he's describing memory foam or something. Yeah. What are you... This is a young person who has never really touched a breast before.
Starting point is 00:32:43 Okay. It's squishing in a different way. way yeah it's like a sandbag it's like what's his name on 40 year old virgin describing he goes he goes i think it's time i squashed the bad little spider she said she crabbed onto his crotch feeling his length bulging against his pants she was far more aggressive than last time, but then again, she could be. His wood was far bigger now after all that amorous attention. My wood's so big right now. Honey, my wood's big
Starting point is 00:33:14 from all this fucking amorous attention. He grunted from her hands, groping him there. She had started out just as close to his chest with her palm, but pretty soon, she was jacking off the shaft as if it was naked in her hands with every stroke. You're not doing MCU, guys. You're reading a pornography story.
Starting point is 00:33:34 This was a spec script. We're talking about MCU, guys, and you are reading a graphic pornography story. Come on, graphic. I mean, are you not sex positive like me? Oh, that's going to come back to haunt me. Brian realizing right away that he had stepped in it there. Brian's a noted sex guy, Vince. I wonder if that's going to get cut somewhere.
Starting point is 00:34:06 I looked at fandom.com. You don't do any editing. Don't act like you're going to cut something out of the final cut. I think somebody else will cut it out. Oh, will cut out the clip and use it against you. Yes, I would definitely say that would be a good thing to do. So here's a little thing from fandom.com. It's from rcrcr fandom.com and it's
Starting point is 00:34:25 it's from rcrcrrc and he goes idea for a movie oh nice imagine this imagine in the next avengers movie with the little avengers we've got left standing now they do a meeting and discuss potential candidates to join the team like wong sheeha, Hulk, Kate Bishop, Miss Marvel and then they mentioned the Daredevil and Punisher okay so that's kind of so that's the idea for the whole movie that's what oh okay that sounds like kind of like the opening scene that just sounds like people together I yeah a friend of mine once described like the Marvel fan as someone who's like able to catalog but not synthesize. I feel like that's the perfect example because their idea for the movie is like,
Starting point is 00:35:10 what if these separate things that I know the names of were together and I recognized them all and I could clap? Yeah, what if they all of a sudden showed up? And hang on, I got a pretty cool idea too. What if they're played by some pretty cool actors that I know? And that made me excited as well. hang on, I got a pretty cool idea too. What if they're played by some pretty cool actors that I know? That made me excited as well. Yeah, this is a cool sounding movie. I would say, honestly, if I was in,
Starting point is 00:35:34 if I was like at a movie studio or whatever, I guess whatever studio they use, Disney, I would green light this. I would go, I would just go for it. I would say the whole thing, it's like a fishbowl movie yeah you know what i mean like the whole film is them having a meeting it's just like and it's at like a meeting like at like a local you know it's just in a meeting room at a hotel or whatever and it would be kind of a character study it would be a cool cool movie that's what i was thinking they could
Starting point is 00:36:01 call it avengers meeting avengers meeting and it's like it's kind of conference call it's kind of shot like one of those like you know like um mockumentary style kind of like with the camera zooms and stuff like that you know with the like the office style yeah office style almost you know it would be i think it could be very funny as well there could be some you know it would and it would save you a lot of money i would say still you want a green screen it probably it would be avengers assemble for a meeting like we're gonna have a meeting now mention some names here hold on let's check in with this trying to find an antidote the army tracked him down couldn't beat the green animal general ross this we're on to uh iron man 2 yeah yeah yeah, yeah. Ivan Vanko wanted to murder Tony Stark, so we might want to hear.
Starting point is 00:37:08 He built an arc reactor fitted with whips and slashes Taro part. He was arrested. Party time. Tony was loving it. Then Rhodey commented on his suit and gave it to the government. After that, Tony met the director of S.H.I.E.L.D. Justin Hammer made a bunch of drones, but Ivan's at the wheel now. All right.
Starting point is 00:37:23 Well, that is the Iron Man 2 story. I was genuinely disappointed in that one. on just a hammer made a bunch of drones but i even set the wheel all right well that's that that is the iron man 2 story so i was genuinely disappointed in that one like i i remember actually having like high hopes i was like oh mickey rourke in an iron man movie this is gonna be and he's got a parrot this is gonna be amazing for like three seconds he's in the movie yeah it's like barely in the movie who leska asked who's gonna who's gonna take who's gonna take minutes at this thing who's gonna take it's just really like tense seeing it who's gonna take minutes sorry you guys keep i'm gonna keep thinking about stuff for the meeting movie but you guys could keep going with the episode four keeps taking the the meeting off
Starting point is 00:38:03 track because he has too many questions. And everybody's getting annoyed with him. Four. Yeah, they're doing that. Yeah. Hawkeye's taking a piss and he thinks he's on mute. Yeah. King Valeska says, which team would you be a part of?
Starting point is 00:38:18 If you had the opportunity to join any heroic team in the MCU, which would you choose and why? How many of them are there yeah there's a i would say the big one is the avenger i mean that should be the only i guess x-men x-men i guess but then yeah and you have to be a mutant as well to even join them yeah they're not mcu yet though this guy says for me i would join guardians of the galaxy i would love to travel the cosmos fighting various alien villains, seeing new planets and having a blast. I mean, listen, that is the right answer, because you're traveling around intergalactic.
Starting point is 00:38:56 In the first movie, especially, there's some really beautiful planets and some really cool places, really unique experiences. It really would be a blast you know well of course the first answer is the avengers for sure which is really the only answer because the avengers can go to space too no i mean we don't we have did no one say eternals no one wants to be no there isn't one there are no i will give you this one uh this person says the avengers or the agents of shield from god there's another one there are no i will give you this one uh this person says the avengers or the agents of shield from god there's another one yeah the agents of shield isn't that aren't those guys just like a cia kind of guys drive a black suv like it's not like you can do that in life yeah walker
Starting point is 00:39:39 said i would join shield and become as an agent so so that guy just wants to be a cop couldn't get in or whatever couldn't pass the exam to get in but dreams of it here's one that they had to lock here's a guy should get into lost prevention he should this is a post that's locked dade lee murphy said uh you're incorrect about the naming of valkyrie as brunhilde you do realize that that is not brunhilde right and not a single scene nor imdb credit is she referred to as brunhilde she is consistently referred to as valkyrie you need to call her by her proper name king valkyrie as stop dead naming Valkyrie. So wait a second.
Starting point is 00:40:31 So this is a character whose name is Brunhilde, but in the queen or something, and then is called Valkyrie now, and then this person is saying, is that what's happening? He's mad because people are saying Brunhilde, and I think it's because in the comic maybe, Valkyrie named brunhilde gotcha it's like her name but this guy's like this is a different person altogether so you and he goes as stated by imdb which is backed by factual info for tessa thompson's credit on both thor ragnarok and Thor Love and Thunder. Brunhilde was killed by Hela and Thor Ragnarok.
Starting point is 00:41:07 So. It's a little interesting for everybody. You know, another thing I looked at was reviews for some of the worst reviewed movies on on Rotten Tomatoes. I was trying to find some like good reviews for you know but so the eternals is one we've talked about i got a two and a half star review here and he goes most people in the comments are confused and unsatisfied because their ignorance serves them well it's being pretentious about the dumbest things on earth how dare you how dare you read fewer baby books uh than i did like what being mad i mean these guys getting mad about stuff i mean i always knew
Starting point is 00:41:55 that like there were the comic book fans that would at times get very mad at um at the movie version of characters but uh here's a five-star review though for um the eternals by jay burman he goes i'm not the biggest marvel fan but this movie took the cake wait what movie it had to be one of the best excuse me it's just eternal it's not the eternal i'm sorry i apologize i even just wrote eternals too vince so yeah i i keep saying the eternals everything worked well to tell this story and it's all star cast stole the show some people in other movie critics have reviewed that the back and forth and time events confuse them but then these same people can't balance a damn checkbook wait wait wait good point good point wait this feels like the director's uncle like logging
Starting point is 00:42:57 into yelp to i'm trying to think of the thing he said. So he meant like they're dumb. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Here, I'll go back. I'll read the whole thing. Because it almost sounds like the way it's being said. It almost sounds like. It's the same thing as the other guy's talking about. Just like the degradation of society and like lowered standards, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:17 Some people and other movie critics have reviewed that the back and forth in time events confuse them. But then these same people can't balance a damn checkbook and nothing makes them happy. So I like the ones that lean into the like wokeness, like using like where it's like, oh, so you didn't like a movie with three female superheroes of color. What a surprise. That's what Brian actually did to me. That's the exact same thing he said to me when I told him that I didn't watch the Marvels. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:54 He actually said that he watched it because he's woke. So the exact thing, that's exactly how Brian acts in his real life. I want you to know that. I feel like they do this like specifically so that the fans like they i think that's like part of the gift to the fans like they get the director of nomadland to come and direct yeah quote unquote direct eternals i'm sure she showed up for like you know five days and worked with the actors after all the scenes were already like finished and then that way they could be like oh real real typical that you don't like the one that's directed by uh
Starting point is 00:44:30 a woman of color and yeah yeah no it does it really feels like they well yeah it's strange that um i mean i guess a corporate like somebody like that will do anything, but it seems really, uh, yeah, it seems like a kind of, uh, a bullshit move to hide behind it like that. But then again, also who cares about any of whether it's, you just said, go watch the movie and it's good or it's not. And then that's it. You know, I just, I just like the, like it's good or it's not and then that's it you know i just i just like the turn like that it does really like represent a sort of character arc because i feel
Starting point is 00:45:09 like when these movies first started coming out the like the the stereotype of the mcu fan was you know like a fat guy with the you know fat guy with like a neck beard uh they covered in cheetos who hates women and is a is a gatekeeper or whatever but at a certain point like they leaned into uh like you know these landmarks in representation and that they were carrying the torch for like representation and they all sort of they all sort of did the like janice soprano thing where you just like transparently weaponize like therapy language and and like the language of representation like it's i don't know it's been an interesting uh turn for them i would say
Starting point is 00:45:51 it is because like the first like 15 movies were just white guys which i i find you know um this guy does have he goes the movie was fantastic and jemma Chan and Richard Manning even pulled tears from this Marine's eyes during the emergency. Oh, hang on. I did not realize. Thank you for your service, sir. I did not realize. Yeah, yeah. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:46:13 This is a Marine we're talking about, and so this is a man who didn't cry too easily. This is a stone cold killer. I'm pressing F to pay respects. I give this movie a total of 10 plus i have seen it alone and with friends and a total of five times now that's what marvel fans do right i can't wait to see the second one at a future date he saw eternals five times this is so this is like 15 hours of eternals of slow missionary superhero sex on the beach i feel like and drew like the the company you know the studio paid for this yeah but they went too far with it like they like you know what
Starting point is 00:46:52 i mean like nobody even believed you just say you saw it twice they went with like a cheap representation management for that guy the guy who wrote it like got reprimanded afterwards like two you know five is a bit much five and you're a marine yeah you don't need to be a marine please that's actually stolen valor we don't do that yeah go see it and understand this is not a fast action packed film but one about humanity and love the underwritten humor between the characters was spot on especially with fast Fastos and Kingo. No, the underwritten stuff. That's why I see events are kind of like furrowing your brow a little bit, but that's, see,
Starting point is 00:47:30 you were looking for the written humor, the stuff that was like sort of in the interactions, in the dialogue, it was the underwritten stuff that you didn't see. That was what was funny. The jokes they weren't writing. Like, that's- They weren't even there. That was funny.
Starting point is 00:47:43 You just rarely hear underwritten used as a compliment, but'm impressed with that bit of it was underwritten humor and yeah i will enjoy this movie for years to come thank you for the experience yeah but brian i guess he did i think he meant like under you know like understated yeah or like you know i don't think and i just sort of took it that way do you know what i mean because i sort of understood what he meant but yeah underwritten is such a good i really appreciated the underwritten it's like he's using half baked as a compliment like you you just aren't sophisticated enough to understand half-baked jokes underwritten humor weren't there but if you were watching the right way you would
Starting point is 00:48:26 have no i just appreciated how they didn't finish writing the jokes like how they never even really made try to make it funny that was what i appreciated it was underwritten bryce disagrees and he gave it one and a half star he says honestly the most boring movie i think i have ever seen i almost fell asleep more times than i could count i found myself holy shit maybe he was tired though waking up every once in a while like listen if you're falling asleep in a movie it's about it could be on the movie a little bit but it's like it is like a movie still with like a bunch of loud sounds and stuff so you're probably pretty tired but that's that's how you know he was a mcu fan the fact that he's falling asleep but counting it like he's cataloging
Starting point is 00:49:11 it he's like that's one oh and then he almost falls asleep again oh that's two he's holding his hand up like this counting it on his fingers yeah yeah yeah that's great so he can log it later and then do exactly what he's doing now yeah he goes uh i i found myself relieved when i had to use the restroom so i could have a break for a few minutes before having to sit through another horrendous hour of this movie i used the bathroom two and a half times in eternals and that is far above my record previous record of one and a quarter bathroom breaks in iron man 2 i mean listen you could he's like i was glad to take a break you could take a break i did that i saw the movie public enemies in the theater and i absolutely hated it and yeah same thing happened with year one i saw year one and i kept getting up and just
Starting point is 00:50:05 walking out and standing in the hallway and being like maybe i should just leave and i was like but i've never left a movie before in my life so i would go back in and sit back down year one was so bad oh is that what jack black yeah yep with michael yeah i kept getting up and standing out in the uh because i was doing what you were doing uh chris when i first got injured at work i went to every summer which job my my last job uh cable guy um not like vince now vince you're a you're a movie critic brian loves to he's his his experience as a cable guy was very similar to the movie Cable Guy what did you think of the film Cable Guy are you a fan of that
Starting point is 00:50:50 and keep in mind this is really important to Brian because it's one of his favorite movies in history I think I was confused by it the first time I saw it I think that was the common thing a lot of people went into it expecting sort of a comedy and it's yeah single white female yeah it's kind of dark and
Starting point is 00:51:10 it's it is a comedy but it's dark and it's definitely not what people are expecting out of jim carrey at that point in his career and i think it took a lot of people by surprise now what do you think would it have been interesting to add to the movie uh if the cable guy would get high on pills and then crash the company van over and over again in an attempt to get fired but then his boss was also a pill head so he never even reprimanded him for that sounds like a better version of that movie maybe like that sounds like the observant report uh take on that cable guy and i would watch that brian i would watch a movie did that would that happen obviously you could probably pick up from context clues
Starting point is 00:51:49 then if that happened to brian and i think i would really in all seriousness watch a movie like you'd have to figure out the like plot line to it but god man brian brian has is a weird life i ran over a guy's uh corvette too that was the other oh yeah he drove over top of the guy's corvette like drove up onto like the hood like on purpose no no i was backing up and i was like why isn't the van moving i think the van's breaking down he was i mean i think that's like the perfect car for me to just immediately think i probably had it coming like a Corvette guy. You're like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:52:26 he probably had to come in. He was like, it was all original parts. And I was like, yeah, exactly. Oh yeah. The guy was an asshole.
Starting point is 00:52:33 Listen, he probably was, but you fucking drove your van on top of his car. He was rightfully angry at you. You should get out of the van. You're probably all filled out. Like, Oh,
Starting point is 00:52:44 sorry, dude. I mean, I wouldn't be fucking mad as well. angry at you you should get out of the van you're probably all filled out like oh sorry dude i mean i wouldn't be fucking mad as well sure but yeah i don't know it's an asshole you say corvette guy and i'm like ah who cares yeah it's true because of the corvette he probably he probably was an asshole but that was that was one of the times when you crashed the car not on purpose right on purpose no none of them were really on purpose they were just very careless behavior because i didn't care i i do want this this bryce guy does take a shot at a different kind of guy so i thought i'd throw it in here he goes it wasn't even horrible it's just so freaking boring it would have been more
Starting point is 00:53:22 entertaining to watch golf on the big screen for three hours. Man, that's I can't even imagine. So listen, I played a bit of golf and watched a bit. But yeah, it's kind of boring golf. I mean, you know, so that seems like probably that's an insult he's making there. Mark says he gives it four and three and a half stars too this is a good review right here he's properly he's properly mixed about it you know yeah but it's better than bad yeah you know what i mean like three and a half out of five is better it's
Starting point is 00:53:58 a it's a good score i've been three out of five every day. But Mark says, had a hard time following the plot. Probably just me. Okay. But he liked it. Just punted. He had to get that in there. That guy was fucked up, I believe. He enjoyed it. That's sort of my review of a lot of them.
Starting point is 00:54:20 I didn't really follow everything that was happening, but I had a fantastic time there. The fact that they're making it,'s cool yeah like honestly i like the fact that like so many people were employed and given you know paychecks to make that is that's kind of cool how they can you know just make this all happen well here's a question and this is something this is off of our marvel studios and this is something they're all wrestling with in the MCU guy community. And I thought it would be important because he goes, do you think MCU is getting too complex for casuals? So I would think that the three of us are casuals,
Starting point is 00:55:01 even though I've seen all the movies. I haven't seen all TV shows. I've seen some of the TV shows. I guess I'll saw wandavision and i watched the first season of loki um i think i i don't know i didn't watch the what's the one with um falcon and winter soldier oh i did watch that i i ducked out of it i ducked out of it uh maybe before the end of it but what was the one with um the really good actor in it samuel jackson secret wars or uh no you come on people know what i'm talking about here oscar isaac oscar isaac oh yeah yeah yeah moon night i did not watch that never yeah i watched the first episode of that and but yeah i would
Starting point is 00:55:36 i would say that's still fair to say that we're casuals and then vince you're a critic so you maybe are i am but chris but i i've never watched any of the marvel tv shows because i was sort of like look i've already watched all the movies for a job i refuse to that's interesting though because you you need to although maybe you quit before the wandavision and stuff because you how the heck you even understand what's going on if you don't watch loki and wandavision you don't even know what's going on i didn't like wandavision at all like i really hated that show yeah i didn't i i hated it me too i hated it and i watched every episode waiting for something good to happen and just getting so angry and annoyed at every single episode they all sort of seem like like they all came off like they were
Starting point is 00:56:21 trying to make an entire series out of uh like the avengers eating shawarma in the deleted scene like what if what if we made this shawarma thing like an entire sitcom and it's sort of like i don't i don't know that i need to watch that level of creative i just got an idea though for my movie okay what are we gonna have for lunch at the meeting? Who out in the Incredible Hulk wants sushi? That's true. That is a good one. He wants something light. This guy goes, Doctor Strange.
Starting point is 00:56:54 That's a good joke. Sorry. That's a good joke from Vince for the movie. They're saying, I want this. I want this. And then Incredible Hulk goes, I'll just have a salad. Huge laugh. Huge laugh. Huge laugh.
Starting point is 00:57:09 Sorry, Brian. Doctor Strange 2 is trendy, so I've seen many comments on a lack of understanding established things in the MCU, such as, why is Wanda so powerful? Or why do they need America Chavez to travel through the multiverse while they did it in Endgame? This is also connected with calling the movies garbage or uh some people are saying listen doctor strange was it was a miss unfortunately i like was that was sam raimi right sam raimi made
Starting point is 00:57:37 that movie and i i liked the first doctor strange and i definitely took mushrooms before i watched it but it was a miss there was just something didn't connect in that movie it did not even feel like a movie really it just felt like a bunch of disconnected scenes it was really a miss for me it felt like sam ramey was there to uh like as like an additional branding but like he didn't really do anything they just like you know more than i and you've mentioned that. You've alluded to that a couple of times now. Do you think that that happens where they'll...
Starting point is 00:58:09 Would a director allow their name to be thrown on something that they don't have that much, like somebody of that level? I mean, these are all rumors and conjecture, but yeah, I think the director in a lot of these movies is just a branding, is just a bullet point on the press release and like the directors will go along with it because it's going to make a bunch of money and they're going to make they're going to make a paycheck on it and not have to do that
Starting point is 00:58:35 much work i don't know it makes sense so i haven't said this yet because i'm slightly a little bit embarrassed about it but uh i've been listening to audio books lately because I just, I don't know why I've just been listening to a lot of what about like show business and stuff like that. So right now I'm listening to the Disney wars and I listened to the old office thing and stuff like that. But the, like one of the books I listened to was the new MCU book. And they talk a lot about like, like Edgar Wright was supposed to make Ant-Man. Oh,
Starting point is 00:59:10 I know that whole story. Yeah. Yeah. He ended up quitting because they weren't letting him fucking do anything. Yeah. So like he worked on it for like nine years or something. So, and they just kind of come in and they're like,
Starting point is 00:59:22 we want to be able to say you directed the movie, but here's what the movie has to be. And we're going to reshoot a lot of it over and over. Yeah, we want your acclaim, but we're not going to like we're still making McDonald's hamburgers here. But like, yeah. Oh, wait, wait a minute. I feel he's going to play the McDonald's hamburgers clip. No, I think I saw his brain going there when he said that.
Starting point is 00:59:48 Now, yeah, that does. Listen, I've never. My dumb ass never really. McDonald's hamburgers? I did that on purpose, Chris. Do you know the Grease Man, Vince? No, no. That's not the Grease Man.
Starting point is 01:00:00 You don't. Hi, McDonald's hamburgers? I mean, that's not the Grease Man, but that's his call no it's not oh is that man cow nope don imus oh i guess you're right that's my fault you know don imus yeah of course yeah yeah well you should learn you should go check out the gree if you like imus your fan i missed it you should checkase. I've been looking for someone who's like Imus, but slightly different. Obviously, Imus died tragically, and we all left a huge
Starting point is 01:00:31 hole in all of our entertainment schedules. So if you're looking for something to fill it, you can go with the Grease man. He's not active other than on Cameo, but you can listen to his Cameos. I'm going to jump back into this for just uh two seconds here um where uh hold on now i fucked up uh then she stood up on her knees
Starting point is 01:00:53 and pushed him back her already bulky physique looked positively titanic at that point the way she was looking at him he recognized that dreamy look in her eyes but that position she looked a little too predatory, too. Just when he was about to say something, she reached under the hem of her shirt and pulled it off. I'm trying to picture that, but yeah, okay. Yeah. And Peter felt his shaking hands. He felled up her hips, moved his hands to her big, beefy ass.
Starting point is 01:01:26 I don't want to give this guy too many notes, but if we're talking about a sexy story about She-Hulk, wouldn't it be sexier if she flexed out of her shirt instead of pulling it off? Yeah, I would love to see her flex out of the shirt. I agree. I didn't think this guy's a fan i honestly think this guy is just very horny and saw each of these ones as she was still manhandling his
Starting point is 01:01:51 pecker she grabbed the zipper of his teeth and pulled it down his penis still wasn't entirely His penis. His penis. This is such a sexy story. The heat was still locked under the button of his pants, but the shaft was quaking and bulging in his boxer shorts out so badly. It looked like his penis was bending upward. That didn't give her any cause for concern. And in that new position position she pushed right down on
Starting point is 01:02:26 it with her palms um so that is she giving cpr to his boner her palms she's giving him a two-handed palm is it she's doing like a hadouken on there true uh incredible hulk review i only got one of those it's from scott l and it's a five-star review it's worth a rewatch after nearly 10 years of woke nonsense from marvel i miss these good old days where the focus on making a good movie so um ant-man and quantumania is another one i looked at that is the worst reviewed i think even worse than eternals i'm pretty sure no yeah it's so is that the newest one the newest ant-man yeah yeah oh oh listen i loved that one i hated that oh the reason i loved it though i have to explain is because i was on a lot of mushrooms and they go to that crazy world you know yeah and it like looks all cool and shit and it was
Starting point is 01:03:25 just really cool to me i have no idea what happened in the movie at all and i know it was actually bad as a movie but i gave it four stars and he said loved the story great action the colors and characters were awesome didn't like all the cussing no i agree i agree with that i'm kind of with that like it did feel like why did we need cussing in this movie that's obviously for babies yeah get the cussing out of there i totally agree dandre gave it three stars and he said the movie itself was great but the toddler behind me was very annoying i haven't had to deal with excess noise during a movie in a very long time so okay well yeah maybe don't go to a fucking kids movie it's just the the it's like we said it's the declining
Starting point is 01:04:12 of uh societal standards once again people it is the good old days you wore your suit and fedora to go to the movie and you sat there with your feet on the floor and you didn't smoke cigarettes yeah you didn't get your fucking toddler in there i will say like someone who goes to the movie and you sat there with your feet on the floor and you didn't bring your fucking toddler in there. I will say, like someone who goes to the movies a lot, I always say that's my rule. I'll be a little annoyed. I won't say anything, but I'll be annoyed by a child in a movie unless I'm going to a movie that's for kids. Yeah. for kids yeah like if there's a movie that's like meant for kids mostly and i'm just like tagging along like going to watch then hey if they're loud then i'm on the i'm in their
Starting point is 01:04:49 territory i just gotta fucking deal with it well we're gonna look at how they feel about us casuals crash and bash said these people clearly never knew what was going on if they thought the avengers were going through the multiverse and end game. Although I can see more and more people getting confused as the Disney plus stuff is implemented in the movies, seeing as not everyone has a subscription and may not realize the shows are just as vital as the movies to the camp. So that's our fault. Yeah. We're 10 plus years in. It should be complex. Why should those of us who have been following since the start have to cater to a newer audience i would understand if there isn't any way to access the previous movies but we have disney plus now lol it's all on there pay eight bucks and you
Starting point is 01:05:36 catch up in a month you could just see all 23 films and then you'd be caught up and seven shows some people don't have dis+. That was how you started. You get it. You have to get it now. Grim Jal Zaldik says, exactly, if they can't be bothered to stay up to date with the narrative, then they have no business being a part of the experience. Yeah, that is MCU guy right there.
Starting point is 01:06:00 That is wrapped right up there. Listen, you don't put in the fucking 49 hours into this to fucking no way more than that if you include the tv shows then you're not you don't deserve this fucking beautiful thing i know people yeah i know people say this a lot i feel people say this a lot online but like i really do feel like mcu fans are like the perfect nazis like the they're sort of devoted to this middle brow culture and it's all and like the whole purpose of it is that it's like a it's a process of proving devotion and it's like super hierarchical like you trust kevin feig has your best interests in mind at all times and if you don't like follow the the procedures
Starting point is 01:06:46 then that's on you and uh and you know if you if you do you get to experience this like glorious future even his name kind of sounds like a guy you know kevin feig you know sounds like a guy that would be maybe part of the whole hit you. Yeah, instead of calling it Marvel Phase 4, they should call it the Third Feig. Yeah, the Third Feig. I mean, honestly, listen, incredibly inappropriate for me to say that, obviously, but I don't care. I mean, I think that Kevin Feig, I know nothing about him.
Starting point is 01:07:20 I believe his name sounds like somebody who could have been a Nazi. Possibly. Thundercock 780 says, I think Marvel understands its fan base. They're not looking to make movies slash shows for some middle-aged couple. They know what's best for you. They're trying to make the MCU as popular as comics. I would argue that the MCU is orders of magnitude more popular than comics and real fans of Marvel. We want these complex stories.
Starting point is 01:07:51 We want new, amazing content. I want to finish the movie and think, holy crap, what the fuck just happened? And then spend hours digging through content to figure out what I just witnessed and where we go next. But to answer your question, yes i think the mcu is too complex for casuals that's so weird that is so weird that's such a weird attitude towards watching something that you want to watch it and then dig into hours of content like discussing it and delving into it and where you're going next and i don't know that seems like escapism at a level that's like alarming to me that you want to escape so much so from this world and like live in the mcu no it's an excuse to be
Starting point is 01:08:33 it's like not even you're not watching a story to watch a story it's an excuse to become more devoted to lore and become like the most uh expert at the lore yeah revolutionary rip 5151 says absolutely not however it is getting complex for people with short attention spans which many people surprisingly have of course yeah yeah and today's day and age today's day and age yeah people like take a tiktok and they can't even watch a movie Oppenheimer destroying box office numbers classic MCU guy defense is that you're defending like a movie that's full of like explosions and cgi and a giant battle scene every 30 seconds but if you criticize it it's because you have a short attention yeah a short attention span you're just sorry because the movie was so long you just
Starting point is 01:09:23 couldn't sit through it sorry it wasn't one of your little tiktoks vince yeah yeah well sorry you didn't understand all the themes and the mythos yeah sorry you didn't understand all of the stuff that we put on some fucking disney plus show that 19 people watched you know well this guy says some of these comments on this thread are on crack. We got Spidey 3 and Doctor Strange 2 and Thor 4 and Guardians 3 and Blade and Fantastic 4 and all that juice coming down the pipe, all leading up to probably Secret Wars. Y'all just need to hit the hash pipe and put a warm washcloth over your eyes and chill the F out. That's a Tumblr guy right there. I'll just need to hit the hash pipe and put a warm washcloth over your eyes and chill the F out. Yeah. That's a Tumblr guy right there. I'd say keep calm and chive on, baby. Just keep calm and chive on.
Starting point is 01:10:18 Just fucking smoke a big fat bowl and just relax and let Feig take you down. You know, we here's another Ant-Man and Wasp review from Ronald. He says Ant-Man and Wasp Quantumania is a quintessential Marvel Studios production. The leading superhero powerhouse. But we shouldn't overlook the occasional entertaining offerings from Sony and Warner Brothers DC Universe. Oh, that's very generous. That's nice to throw him a little fucking bone, the DC. Wait, DC made, did they make a a good like a successful one recently oh i mean the batman the blue beetle was actually good oh yeah blue beetle i like the blue beetle i like
Starting point is 01:10:50 the blue beetle yeah i didn't vince you didn't like it no but again it could have been like the theater i was that was like too dark because like honestly like like the battle scene or the fight was boring as hell to me but they do make it too dark. I didn't love the fight and action scenes, but I thought as one of those movies with an emotional arc and stuff, I thought it was decently done. I enjoyed it. I had a fun time. Again, I was on mushrooms, so you got to keep that in mind.
Starting point is 01:11:16 Marvel's shared universe of superheroes is set to introduce the formidable villain Kang the Conqueror, who disrupts and shapes the journeys of our less renowned heroes in a way. Well, what are they going to do about Kang? Well, I've seen a lot of opinions. I've seen a lot of opinions, and most of them are, well, we can't just kick a guy out because he got some accusations. This whole thing is supposed to be based on Kang.
Starting point is 01:11:43 By the way, this is off- like off topic but did you see that that fight that jonathan majors broke up supposedly uh outside of uh in and out next to a high school in oh the setup yeah they're like yeah like yeah oh i did it that seems i gotta i mean talk about like great moments in celebrity crisis management PR. Someone convinced him. It was like a Nathan Fielder bit come to life. Okay, so you've been canceled from the MCU. Here's what you need to do. We need to see a video of you that goes viral being a nice guy.
Starting point is 01:12:22 People got this bad feeling about feeling about you got all these charges when you're the character you're very bad guy so everybody very much hates you as a character as well we need to see you being a nice guy you hurt a woman and people know this but what if you kept two other women from being hurt wouldn't that balance out and you could just be back to even it's wild to me that these mc event because they're like they just don't care about it at all they only care about their mcu thing and so then he's so important to the mcu you know that this character that listen he would have to do so much probably to make any of them think that he should be gone you know like he would have to do so much probably to make any of them think that he should be gone. You know,
Starting point is 01:13:05 like he would have to do something crazy, like post something woke, you know? And then they would be like, get them out of here. So like, yeah, I honestly,
Starting point is 01:13:14 that is so wild to me that like, they would just forgive so much because it's like, listen, we got to keep our little MCU together. We need to have this. I have a couple more. I just want to get through like two more things here was peter parker and iron man 2008. i was sitting here watching iron
Starting point is 01:13:32 man one just now specifically the first flight and i saw this kid on the ferris wheel that i never paid much attention to before is it possible that this was the first true appearance of Peter Parker in the MCU, even before he was retconned into Iron Man 2? Let me explain. The boy in Iron Man 2 was retconned to be Peter Parker. This we all know. What if this boy on the Ferris wheel was also Peter? He looks younger, and he resembles Tom Holland a lot. So this is possible.
Starting point is 01:14:04 So many people that resemble tom holland yeah he's a very normal looking guy i would say that this is the example of somebody who's maybe run out of things to like pick out and they're sort of really searching for stuff now you know like wait i got a theory here that nobody's come up with yet because everyone's come up with every single one you know well uh the first reply is dude this was in california by the way not new york and peter parker has never been on any other plane before so this isn't him um joey does respond and say ever heard of a bus or a car oh wow dude cross-country trips northwestern guy says no but the kid in iron man two during the last fight is him and uh our original poster replies i'm aware of iron man
Starting point is 01:14:55 two i was implying that this could be the same kid for a more cohesive timeline that he sees iron man for the first time here then years later is in that scene. And then our guy responds and goes, yeah, nah, Peter is so New York centric. There's no reason to have him in California. Yeah. You really have to draw a balance between being a faithful enough fan to come up with fan theories, but not have your fan theories be so wild as to take away from the fidelity of what kevin feig has given you that is interesting right it is you have to keep that balance because people will really appreciate it and like yeah we love it when you come up with these theories and try to expand on the lore but yeah if you fucking say some stupid shit like fucking peter parker was in los angeles you're you're fixing to get fucking
Starting point is 01:15:40 smacked up a bit by the comment section you know, here we go. That fight was in California before Iron Man moved to New York, so it wouldn't have been Peter. And then we get another reply that goes, you ever hear of someone being born in one place then moving to another? I love that he's backpedaling now. He's like, oh, ever heard of a bus? Dude, you ever heard of people being adopted?
Starting point is 01:16:01 Yeah, let's see. Well, then this guy goes, Peter didn't move, though. He's been in New York for a long time. And then the same guy replies, who knows? Maybe he did. That argument. He's kind of given up. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:19 Who knows? Maybe he fucking did. Maybe he did. You can't go against the hive. This is the last thing I wanted to do because it really ties into something Chris just said about Kang, too. Tom Holland prediction thread. Like most people, I find it hard to believe that Tom Holland wants to relax for a little while. It's not like he's in his 30s with a wife and kids.
Starting point is 01:16:40 As far as wanting to party like a 20- old he's a millionaire hollywood elite i'm sure he can party better than the rest oh he's probably got fucking babes galore he's got as many babes as he wants yeah it's all over his pecker babes all up and down his penis so many babes manhandling his pecker with their palms yeah my prediction is that he wants a percentage of the movies producer and director in the end i think he'll get 250 million dollar contract that includes three solo movies four supporting roles in a movie with a role as producer maybe even executive producer for spider-man 6 is this person like a contract lawyer why are they what like how do they have all this insight into what part of the part of the
Starting point is 01:17:26 part of the joy of being an mcu fan is playing fantasy studio exec because like it's not about actors it's not about story it's not about directors what it is about is about the studio head who has the grand master plan for how they're going to roll out all of your favorite characters because he'll also get the ability to be a director for another sony film that puts him at 32 with a lot of experience behind the camera money in the bank they really are this is this is really like yeah like playing like career mode with an athlete you know like you're saying this will put him at 32 he's still in pretty good shape i'm guessing at this point maybe still doing some action stuff yeah this that's really he's gonna need to he's gonna need to dress himself down a little bit maybe do some uh an oscary movie like for a little prestige and then he can come back and get a
Starting point is 01:18:14 higher salary and bring an extra bit of gravitas to his oh that yeah and then he's like 35 and he sort of you know he gets into a polycule, you know, starts going a little wild. You thought he had babes before. Starts getting wild with it. I 100% agree. He had said that he wants to slow down to start a family, but he's young and has time to worry about that later. Besides, the world needs Spider-Man. Yeah, he's young.
Starting point is 01:18:40 You can worry about that later. You got to do the Spider-Man. He's still an O. young he's got you can worry about that later you gotta do the spider-man our last oh our last reply is the fact that i'm 28 and still nowhere near thinking about starting a family and this dude is 25 had me scoffing in my head like it had you scott well listen man all day i'd be scoffing in my i will say this you do there is a tendency for you know mega rich celebrities and athletes and stuff like that to start families earlier because a lot of the reason that in today's modern society i think that people don't start families earlier is because of the financial
Starting point is 01:19:14 constraints and it's impossible whereas those people don't have those financial constraints so they often do have you know a lot of athletes have really kids when they're like 21 22 or whatever yeah so i think it's normal do you really want to start a family at 25 does zendaya want to start a family right now is she even the one you're going to start a family with that comment is just so weirdly out of place in my opinion for a 25 year old that that's just settling into their success that is such a weird thing for this person that i've never met or spoken to say you know it's just settling into their success that is such a weird thing for this person that i've never met or spoken to say you know it's just like for what from what i know of him which is like entirely you know if just like listening to him give interviews to press i would say this is
Starting point is 01:19:57 very out of character insane thing that insane way to act it's an insane thing for a guy to want to settle down like i mean i spent all day trying to imagine him having sex with she hulk and now here he's talking about starting a family he's got so many he's got so many sexy interludes to have with other superheroes and yeah how is he i mean now all of a sudden he's got a family now all of a sudden he's got a kid he's not he's not not getting any well he did here's this the whole time he was mindlessly chowing down on her tits. This is back to the story. Mindlessly chowing down on her tits.
Starting point is 01:20:37 You should end. I'm not going to go anymore. Mindlessly chowing down on her tits. Mindlessly chowing down on her tits. Mindlessly chowing down on her tits is like, is the least sexy phrase. Mindlessly shoveling spoonful after spoonful of her tits into his mouth. So Vince, tell people where to find you.
Starting point is 01:21:09 Yeah. My podcast pod yourself we started with pod yourself a gun which was about the sopranos and we finished off all the sopranos and we're now four seasons into the wire and uh the second iteration is pod yourself the wire and we don't know what we're gonna do next but we still got another season left of The Wire. That's cool. I love that. I'm trying to help you. I like The Wire. It's a unique thing. Personally, I feel like it's one of the best shows.
Starting point is 01:21:35 What about Podge Yourself Some Luck? Like the horse racing show? I was actually sad when they canceled that. I was too. I actually liked that show. Or Podge Yourself Some John from Cincinnati. Yeah john yourself some cincinnati i have one book i listened to was the hbo book i don't know if you guys have heard of that one but there's an oral history of hbo i listened to the whole thing and they didn't mention mr show and it still makes me mad this um just before we leave i didn't want to ask you what you see you when you're a movie critic did you get to see the movies before everyone else i did yes that's incredible and
Starting point is 01:22:09 do you still get to um i i do get the invites i moved to fresno and they used to have advanced screenings here and what about like you know just like if they could send it to you or whatever so i do get screeners like i do i gotta find out okay i gotta talk to you but i gotta find a way to get screen it's my the only thing i care about in the entire world not from you i mean like to like legitimately figure out a way where i could like do something maybe brian can i do a movies podcast once a month on the patreon and then somehow find a way to get screeners that way i don't care they're not they're not as good as you imagine them because a lot of times, either they'll send it to you
Starting point is 01:22:47 on their bespoke screening site where you actually have to sign an NDA and then half the time it doesn't work. And then other times, like holiday season, they send the actual discs, which is great, except a lot of them don't have subtitles. So you're watching a non non blu-ray quality rip of
Starting point is 01:23:08 this movie that doesn't have subtitles so you like really can't tell what the hell people are saying half the time okay well thanks for telling me that that makes me feel good it's like it makes me feel like i'm not missing out on something because it's always i always just want to see movies before other it's the only thing i care about like getting before other people is to watch movies it's a weird thing i have i was like and and like i would love it to there's one time a year when they're sending you the award movies i'm so insanely jealous of that yeah yeah yeah yeah there was that time um in in history where you could download them torrents remember when they would get released on the internet and so every every holiday season you'd get all these
Starting point is 01:23:52 movies that didn't even come out yet and they'd be great rips that was a couple of years it was amazing yeah i love yeah some of them have switched to like they have their own like app that you can put on like your roku or your Apple TV or whatever. And then you get an actual streaming quality screener with subtitles and everything. But the other night I watched Ferrari on a disc, a screener disc. What the hell? And it's a movie where everybody's doing an Italian accent. And the audio is not great quality.
Starting point is 01:24:22 And I'm trying to watch it in bed with my wife who's asking me to turn it down every five seconds and unless it's cranked all the way up, I can't tell what they're saying half the time. Does she not know this is a screener? You're getting to see this movie early. People don't know how lucky that is.
Starting point is 01:24:42 Sometimes in Vancouver, they'll have a movie, they'll show it beforehand at some small that like will get it before it comes out streaming or something and it just makes me feel so good you know it's the bump the thing that bums me out and it probably is way better in california and vancouver but like a lot of the movies a lot of those award movies don't even fucking come out here until like after the oscars a lot of time like i i remember i i would go nuts because i used to try to watch all the oscar movies before i realized i'm too stupid to enjoy them and i'll just watch uh tv shows i mean it's that way everywhere except for new york and la every other market gets them like later too but
Starting point is 01:25:23 we but we i can watch all that because i do it i always watch all the oscar movies before the oscars and i definitely can do that in vancouver and another cool thing they do here is they at the film center as well as they'll show uh all the shorts every year they'll do that the drama and then i can't stand a short movie oh no they show them all in a row, though, Brian. So it's like a big movie. It's too short. It's like yeah, I'm now even like when I see a TV show is like
Starting point is 01:25:51 actually, you know what a good TV show is, Vince? Pod yourself a monarch. Yeah, I've watched the first two episodes. It's so good. It's my favorite thing. I like it better than the Nathan Fielder thing, which makes me feel kind of bad. I had a hard time getting through the second episode of that Nathan Fielder show.
Starting point is 01:26:09 Oh, I love it. I love that show. It's right up my alley. I like the first one a lot. I'm feeling it. I'm feeling it hard. I like it. But I just like the other one more. I just fucking really love that monster show. All right. We will see you next week with College Sports Guys with uh sex jay and um what's the
Starting point is 01:26:29 patreon oh god damn it uh you know what patreon.com slash murder x bride just go back a couple of weeks and there's a video of man cow being interviewing sebastian gorka yeah i saw you i saw you tweeted that i can't wait oh it's really this thing is really crazy man it's not it's like you'll never you've never seen man cow this way i don't really want to spoil it but it's like it's this is like man cow's hero no no no definitely not i would say not they are not they do not necessarily get along on the interview. I would say. It literally feels like a comedy sketch.
Starting point is 01:27:09 It feels like a comedy sketch as well because there's a long amount of technical difficulties to start as well that feel very sketch-like. It's really quite incredible. All right. We'll see you all next week with College Sports, guys. I'm an expert on those, so that'll be fun. Goodbye. Bye. Bye.

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