Guys: With Bryan Quinby - Guys: Episode 46 - College Football Guys with SexJ

Episode Date: December 26, 2023

Go Bucks, Michigan Sucks! We invited our friend SexJ (https://twitter.com/MostCrucified) from  twitch.tv/crucifiedscoob to talk about the most pure sport with the most loyal fans and players, College... Football. While I grew up steeped in it, Chris and Sexj grew up liking the less pure professional sports. We spent some time reading grown men crying because players are getting paid, crying becasue their team didn't get in the right bowl game and of course, acting like insane people There is much more Chris at youtube.com/noteveashow and twitter.com/notevenashow and of course https://www.patreon.com/notevenashow And for more Guys content, streams and SHOCKTOBER: a deep dive into shock jocks you can click patreon.com/murderxbryan twitter.com/murderxbryan and twitch.tv/murderxbryan

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to Guys, a podcast about guys. I am Brian, and my co-host here is Mr t-sip chris james what's up chris what wait wash up chris did you just just start the episode can we start over can we start over yeah okay and then the flub heads fucking come to my house and then they fucking carry me out and kill me yeah okay no they demand this type of content wash up to you as well brian i don't know what i don't know what a t what was it that you call me a t-zip it's it's me and my friends on the uh that are fans of the aggies the texas team texas or is that texas is the aggie i'm like that yeah and we call the other team t-sips because they sip tea they're a little
Starting point is 00:01:12 snobby and you know oh i see the other and who are the rivals that are the texas okay but you i should have looked that up the first team was texas, anyways. Keep talking about these teams. Very excited. I just want to say very excited. I'm not a big college sports guy, but I'm a big sports guy. I'm huge into sports, so I'm excited for this episode. Well, and I grew up in it. Obviously, Columbus, Ohio is one of those places.
Starting point is 00:01:40 Ohio State. Yeah. And we got Sexton here, too. Where are you from? First I want to say wash up, wash up everybody. Wash up to you as well, Sexta. I mean,
Starting point is 00:01:54 that is, I'm glad that you're kind of like our friend, you know, because how humiliating would that have been if it was like somebody from the movies or something and he's like, hey, wash up. They would have have been like what am i involved in or bringing bringing on an actual like a college football pundit yeah exactly totally i i didn't i don't know i mean like i could have brought in every single guy that i grew up with for sure on something like this
Starting point is 00:02:21 and i see they're. They're very serious. They're the type of people we're going to talk about presumably on this episode. Sex J, where are you from? Are you from a college football part of the country? I'm from Wisconsin. I'm from Milwaukee. We don't have a college football
Starting point is 00:02:39 team here, but we got the Badgers in Madison. They're usually pretty good. They stink right now but i would consider wisconsin a college football town oh it is milwaukee's a great city but they're also into into pro football as well because they're obviously into their their packers yeah the packers who are winning the super bowl on the way to the super bowl okay yeah okay very cool i hope you're not let down by them i am from from, as people know, Columbus, Ohio. I graduated from the Ohio State University.
Starting point is 00:03:09 We do not have a professional football team. We have the Buckeyes, and that is our team. And, you know, I got the degree there, but, you know, getting a degree there doesn't necessarily, you know, you don't have to get a degree there to be a fan. I would say that 99% of their fans don't have degrees. They just live in the area. So it's still... I guess I'm trying to sort of... As somebody who obviously I'm from Canada,
Starting point is 00:03:37 as you know, we're not into it in the same way. I did used to go to University of of british columbia basketball games with my dad and brother um and they were kind of good sometimes but it did i'll tell you what it was like it looked like you know a school gymnasium and it was half full and it was not a big deal so i'm trying to wrap what it would be like up in canada like college sports it's i think that there are no it's it's it has no i would say it's not even on the level of high school sports in america in a lot of cases honestly um but but yeah i think i guess it's just a regional thing right if you live in ohio in an area where the best thing you
Starting point is 00:04:18 can go watch live is going to be is going to be ohio state you could become their fan. I think one of the things about college football that makes it a little more exciting than pro football is that you can't lose one game. If you lose one game, basically, well, not this time, but generally, if you lose one game, you're not going to the playoffs or the uh and and now every win every fucking game so and and i as someone who only follows professional sports and does not watch any college sports i know there was talk so do they do a tournament now
Starting point is 00:04:57 they do but it's now they do they do you can tell them sex j it i don't quite understand it but it is a very strange way to but you're saying it's only four teams sex j so it's yeah so they're still doing like a bowl format but now there's a bunch of different four game playoff type situation there's one four game play okay all right and then a bunch of bowls and then a bunch of bowls yeah so and and the four games are still technically bowl games. I see. But yeah, so there's four teams that make the playoff, and they play one-on-one, of course,
Starting point is 00:05:34 and then they play the championship, whoever wins the two games. And then there's, I guess they're expanding it to more teams next year? Yeah, it'll be 12, which will be kind of because chris i think something you need to know is that those four teams are chosen by a board of people yeah no i i'm familiar i'm familiar at least as someone who follows sports i'm familiar with how the bowl system is and how it's sort of just selected that way it doesn't seem like the best way to do it but i mean this is an
Starting point is 00:06:05 organization that doesn't pay their athletes either right so i mean i don't know that they're all about doing things the right and correct way let's look at something about that actually it was on the texas aggies uh message board and uh i was just reading a few of the posts about the nil which is the name image likeness rule where, which is the name, image, likeness rule, where players can now sell their name, image, and likeness. They're still getting paid by the schools. But what happens is in the cities with the big schools, like in Columbus, a group of business owners get together
Starting point is 00:06:40 and they pool their money together and they pay the players. You know, guys are getting like 2 million dollars to play and also if they're not getting paid much they can get into a transfer portal and transfer to a different school where maybe they can be recruited and make more money and this is not something
Starting point is 00:07:01 that fans like. They hate it. They hate it. Why do they? Wait, they hate that they're getting paid? Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:07:12 What happens is if your team can't afford to pay someone, someone else's team can. And now with the transfer portal, people are just leaving every year. Yeah. So it's like mercenaries and then there's just rich there's really rich programs that are able to now just kind of swallow up everyone in a similar way to like football like i watch a lot of footy like a similar way to the like the big football clubs can like european chris too it's not like like ohio state gets like the best players out of college no matter what they always
Starting point is 00:07:47 have because they're like a big team or like you know uh notre dame gets a lot of people that people want to play for so the schools are always as a rudy of course they see the movie they're like i want to be rudy yeah i mean everyone sees the movie they're emotionally moved by it it makes them cry in a way that they didn't expect to see themselves cry. And then they want to immediately follow in Rudy's footsteps. Let me read this for you. This is from Lake 08. And he says this is the obvious statement he wanted to make.
Starting point is 00:08:17 And he did this at 854 a.m. yesterday. Oh, yesterday. Wow. This is a. Wow. Players no longer play for a school head coach or position coach they play 100 for their pocketbook that's fine i don't blame them however stop acting like players give a sheet about the school they don't so that is where we're we're mad right is that like in the past because they weren't the the idea was that because they
Starting point is 00:08:46 weren't making money they were loyal to the school they came there so that that not that they have to play in college basically to get into the nfl but that they were loyal to the school and they they they do this for the love of football and they didn't have an option yes yes they didn't have it didn't have there was there was no other there's no other route to the nfl right there's not like it's it's not like you know you can't go to like an alternate you can't go to europe and play or whatever you know well here's decades of european scouted football player that'd be great though i mean i would go there over like like uh ohio like spending your your college years in columbus ohio seems like when you're from like california or florida it's
Starting point is 00:09:33 like uh this is why i won't be at the texas bowl decade plan says he goes the portal noise and coaching vacancies be like a significant lack of loyalty i don't know loyalty it's really all like these guys think they're the mafia like you gotta be loyal to you yeah i mean they really do i mean i see the way people talk about they're all the modder or whatever or like their teams and it really is they think of it as like you know it's in's in my blood. It's the family. Like they're born into it. It's true. They've supported Ohio State for so many years of their life. They can't imagine someone being willing to like hop to another team after one year of it.
Starting point is 00:10:17 Are you kidding me? Like you want to leave the Ohio State? You know, you do get to play in front of 105 000 people here in ohio state but you know a lot of money or whatever that's huge that like it's a huge arena that's a huge stadium i think that's a stadium it's a uh the horseshoe i live uh like three blocks and you've been to a game no what i've been in the horseshoe that's where i graduated wait wait yeah you went to the school and you never went to a game that kind of that's kind of cool okay well that answers my question because i was going to ask if you played for the team and now i know the answer is no
Starting point is 00:10:58 no he well he had sort of like i don't know if you've seen the movie Rudy, but he had sort of a similar situation to that. I'll talk about it here in a second. I want to read this guy's post here real quick because this is really what it's like living here when you hear about this stuff. The portal noise and coaching vacancies belie a significant lack of loyalty. I don't wish kids who bolt on us good fortune in their new homes. I hope their teams lose. I hope every team loses that's not a and m but this feels like a lot of rats off a sinking ship i'm not gonna board the same ship on the wednesday after christmas so this guy is not going to the bowl game because i mean there's it's probably honestly it's probably like he just
Starting point is 00:11:43 like double booked he like he has something else he has do, but he has to like justify it to all the people on the board and like into himself. Kind of. He's like, this is why I'm not going, you know, because they're expecting him to be there. A lot of the players will probably look up into like where his seat is. And it's like, excuse me, where are we supposed to play well here's a reply to that where the guy goes what's your profession and what company do you work at or are you self-employed depending on your age i 100 blame your generation for creating the screwed up employer employee relationship we have in today's world also i'm not salty i've done just fine post
Starting point is 00:12:22 a and m but i do laugh at boomers that demand one-way loyalty. So this guy's on the team, but now Brian is best replies, and this is really the college football credo here. Player and coach loyalty is gone in college football. Fan loyalty is next. Love of money is the root cause. Yeah, well, I mean, i mean yeah i mean you're right
Starting point is 00:12:48 i wonder if fan loyalty is next like maybe he's just like is he speaking from himself he's like i'm about to just say fuck it he's mad the mad. The players are going to fucking be disloyal. Like they're going to be like, fuck the fans. I don't give a fuck about them. Oh, that's what he's saying. I see. I think I don't care about these fans. I'll go to a different school.
Starting point is 00:13:17 I think probably a lot of them think that already. Dude, if I was in Ohio State, I would think that I can't tell you the amount of parties I've been to. Oh, come on. That doesn't sound plausible. Three. Yeah, he's like, I can't tell you. The number is three. Lifetime.
Starting point is 00:13:34 I can't tell you the amount of Saturdays I spent at somebody's house where Ohio State's playing a football game and everybody's having a good time. And then as it starts to look like ohio state's gonna lose the party is totally ruined and i've been kicked out of the guys like just get out i can't deal with this right now sort of thing get out and like everyone kind of understands people aren't like hey what was wrong with like jared people are just like yeah man i feel that no he had to get out he was the reason we're losing oh yeah yeah kicking people out because they're great people get man i know when i was younger about sports i'd get real superstitious like weirdly trying to like control feel like i could
Starting point is 00:14:16 control the outcome of a game you know it's just ruined that like their night is ruined you know what i mean like i've seen parties end like at nine o'clock that we're supposed to go later because ohio state lost and everybody's just like oh go home but if they win is it like it's a lot of wild and they win a lot oh they win almost every game so that's a good like i would be going to those parties you know what i mean like because there's a probably a good chance it's going to be a great party. But it's a double-edged sword, right? When they lose to Michigan, which they have for the past three years,
Starting point is 00:14:49 people are miserable about it. So maybe don't go to the Michigan party. Well, they shouldn't. They shouldn't even throw a party for the Michigan game. Yeah, just for the Michigan game, don't throw a party. It's too risky, really, because if they lose the whole city, I don't think you understand. The weekend beat michigan week you know uh first of all everybody in town goes around any anywhere where there's an m on a street sign or a business sign or anything like that they
Starting point is 00:15:18 put a red x over it with tape so every if the street sign says m red x over like it says there's a michigan road which we completely cross out and like uh i mean the whole town but if somebody like what about delivery drivers and stuff what if there's a guy named marvin and everyone knew his name was marvin what if you had a marvin you think i kidding? Call him Marvin. At least that's actually still a pretty cool name. Yeah. Bad example. Well, after Treacle asked the question. Madoff.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Madoff. He's the one. You know. Well, our college football mania, after Treacle 210 said, I'm currently going between two college teams. I love San Diego State state university don't get me wrong now i'm starting to like oregon also part of my family is osu fans i listened to the game last saturday and dang i don't really need i i don't think i really need to choose a team
Starting point is 00:16:19 you know and it's like oh yeah i think, I think you do, idiot. Well, Conscious Rooster's loyalty. Well, Conscious Rooster did reply and say, my dad always taught me when it comes to teams, your first loves are your lifers. For me, for better or worse, that's not true, by the way, because my first favorite team in the world was Michigan, and it was just to annoy everybody. Oh, yeah, that's such a little kid thing.
Starting point is 00:16:42 Yeah, that's in Ohio. Like any annoying guy it's like no actually i'm a michigan fan like i was a michigan fan before i ever set foot in michigan i mean i feel like i i think that's just like if it's your regional team then where you were born or whatever that tends to be the case but if you don't have a team like if you don't have one regionally and then you just have a favorite team, I think that it can change a little more easily. I love guys that, I mean, that's the kind of guy that I really like.
Starting point is 00:17:12 And it's really fun that we get to talk about sports guys because some of my favorite guys are the ones that like the rival of the team in the town they live in. Just to be annoying. Contrarians. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it was so and i would show up to an ohio state football game watching party in a michigan shirt and no yeah so they weren't that serious about it then because nobody beat your ass no but they would be mad about it you
Starting point is 00:17:39 know what i mean like my uncle would start getting all crazy about it you know yeah um for better or for worse my teams will always be iowa state and notre dame i knew from the first ohio iowa state game i went to storming the field climbing the goal post watching it go down singing sweet caroline everyone's got that one team when they go to a game and they just fall in love with the team and culture you gotta find a fan you're one of bro it's a magical part of being a fan so he's telling them like dude you can't you know sweet caroline's so corny yeah it's so overdone like why don't you pick that as the song that was like so cool to you that it stuck out that it made you um yeah i mean i i don't know i i guess i'm a what am i a diehard fan i'm weirdly manchester united is the thing team i'm the
Starting point is 00:18:34 biggest fan of and i'm nowhere near there kind of annoying too in that way yeah but i'm no but i have an explanation i always give it and and that is that it's my age. Because when I was a kid, they only played. It was Manchester United was the best team in the world. It was the mid-90s. And the only team that they played one game on TSN in Canada, and it was always Manchester United every weekend. So I really didn't have that much choice.
Starting point is 00:18:59 There's a lot of people in Canada who are Manchester United fans for that reason. I'm a bengals fan because of i said that's my dad what his favorite team was once and he said bengals and i was like okay i'm a fan of that so yeah that's another way a lot of people pick it up definitely yeah i've room for every team because of my dad so yeah it makes it easy yeah and it's nice to have something to connect not that me and my dad connected or anything, but, you know. Texags.
Starting point is 00:19:27 Sorry to hear that, bro. Texags, calm down and have some class, Ags. This is from TorkBulldog85. All the TU, Texas University, hating makes us look so small. Every single time they look good or excel, some of y'all yell, the fix is in, or media bias. Just stop with the envy, sour grapes, and unbridled inferiority complex that everybody outside Aggieland sees. Grow up.
Starting point is 00:19:56 I'm all for big pride in my school and rooting hard for my team. That said, we try to walk around with an arrogance and swagger we've never earned. Like at the Miami game when two younger Aggies behind me was yelling, this is too easy. Early in the game, I turned around and told them to shut the fuck up. That's why they... Okay, that seems like you are definitely in the wrong. Like it sounds like theirs was some really light banter that you often hear at a football game. It's like you became immediately confrontational with two young people.
Starting point is 00:20:33 They said, this is too easy. And the guy turned around and said, shut the fuck up. Yeah. Can you like, he just is big, like aggressive old man. Like, shut the fuck up. Just do kids. Yeah. These kids are like, just like what? I turned around and told him, shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. Yeah, these kids are like, what?
Starting point is 00:20:47 I turn around and tell them to shut the fuck up. That's why the haters and bias. We act like assholes. And like somebody owes us something. By the way, the media totally loved us back when we actually had something with Johnny Football. Yeah, when Johnny Football, Johnny Manziel, is that? Yeah, we used to get respect back then folks outside aggie land are just over us it would shift if we overcome our long history
Starting point is 00:21:11 of mediocrity to actually win and compete which for the first time in forever i think we actually have a chance to do with the recent coaching changes uh sex jay disagrees and it i don't even i don't know anything about college football this fucking guy sounds like just like a a stupid optimist like a like a um like he's like too optimistic you know yeah this guy's so optimistic that he actually hates what he's saying like he does not believe a word that he's saying he knows it's fake but he's just like trying to be so positive to show that like see we can be positive we don't have to be negative like some of y'all you know and then so he's like trying to fake it
Starting point is 00:21:49 basically gonna look at a few replies here uh 4570ag says get bent talk about having class while telling some kid at a game to shut the fuck up yeah yeah where test says be quiet t-sip which is it's the oh so this this guy who is calling who the aggies are calling texas university t-sip because texas you know this is ohio state michigan thing too ohio state is more the uh um michigan's more of a prestigious private school to go to. Or I think it's public school, but it's a more prestigious school to go to than Ohio State. So it's sort of a snobs versus slobs thing where we're the slobs and Michigan's the snobs. And that's the kind of thing we make fun of them with. But it's not really like they're not really like, you know, on the scale.
Starting point is 00:22:44 If you're looking at the whole thing, they're not that like you know on the scale if you're looking at the whole thing they're not that snobby like compared to like real snobby people like harvard they're nothing like yeah you know what i mean but they are compared to ohio state i got you it's all right hey huerta says be quiet t-zip and uh howdy texas aggie, go away, T-Sip. And then Fire the Wang on Up says, suck start a Chevy. Okay, so that's too far in my opinion. Listen, I think his post was a little bit annoying, but he doesn't need to take his own life. He doesn't want to suck start a Chevy?
Starting point is 00:23:23 All right, so we're at a time that I think Sex J can really help shed some light on. There was a big controversial decision by the bowl committee. Oh, yeah. And I don't quite – I didn't watch any of the games, but can you – I heard that. Yeah, I actually heard about this. I heard about this big controversial decision by the bowl committee. They said they're not going to allow people to use them for haircuts anymore.
Starting point is 00:23:57 That's the committee that makes decisions about bowls. Sorry, everyone. That was dumb. Do you want to say the real one, Sex? Yes, I will. I will. I'll save you. I'll save you.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Thank you. So, yeah. So, they left undefeated Florida State out of the bowl. There were four undefeated teams. They left Florida State out. And Florida State won their conference championship game and they lost their starting quarterback. He broke his leg. It was a bad injury, but they won all the games after they lost him. they they did snub them and i saw people saying that uh ron desantis needs to get involved he needs to he he needs to get involved even trump wrote about it he said he said that it was rigged or something like that so it's it's the answer if trump says it because trump never he'll never say something like that he never stuff is is like uh but but listen if they won all their games they should
Starting point is 00:25:07 probably yeah but there's more teams i think that won all their games that's where the problem comes in how many teams won all their games i did i didn't look it up but there are several teams that win win out xj did you know how many undefeated teams there were this year? I think at the top of the rankings, there weren't that many. So, yeah, the top of the rankings there weren't. Because their schedule is really, right? Yeah, it was Michigan and Florida State, I think, were the only undefeated teams. I may be wrong because Georgia lost to Alabama. Oh, Brian, was Ohio State?
Starting point is 00:25:43 It wasn't? How come? They lost to Michiganigan this is you know go bucks michigan sucks you know uh tomahawk nation is where i went to look at this and they uh they say why even play the games college football playoff committee loses all credibility with fsu exclusion and uh organ organol says uh revoke all espn media passes ban them from florida state university athletics access tow their vans and cars and buses whenever we see them on camp tell them straight away get somebody ready to tell them yeah it's the only that's what
Starting point is 00:26:19 i thought of right away too what's we gotta tell away the espn man if we want any hope of getting this rectified we gotta tell the vans away first i'm just leaving my river you see you see the van coming in why don't you just get a spike strip just tossing the road right in front of them like strip them then they don't even get in there and they think twice next time they try to come in bugs bunny says fsu should boycott any bowl the college football the college football idiocracy puts in front of them screw them you know i mean i think they'll they'll want to play that just for revenue purposes they would want to play that bowl game probably well jw755 says hokey hate you guys, but mad enough to run through a brick wall about this.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Win your fucking bowl game and hang the fucking banner. You'd be the only champion I'd recognize. First off, you can't run through a brick wall. You can run into one like our friend Turd. Turd did that. Turd did that. Turd. Turd.
Starting point is 00:27:21 Turd. Turd. But yeah, you got rival fans coming in here to say listen this is such bullshit that that is when you know something's bullshit in sports truly you know like i always if i'm if i'm watching footy or whatever and there's like a controversial decision i obviously know all the united accounts i have like a sports twitter thing all the united accounts are gonna be you know saying that it's whatever united's way but if the other fans start saying it well here let's listen to this guy too
Starting point is 00:27:51 he's got a lot to say about it approximately five hours into a disney drive so he's driving to disney world with his family in his car oh he said some terrible thoughts in his head during this drive. Just watch the college football playoff reveal. A black day for college football indeed. Pride and hubris rule the day. Hang on a second. I got to get, is this guy doing the, is he doing like a character or silly kind of, you know, it's just not like, is he speaking that way? Kind of like ironically, almost like I'm going to use this hundreds of like millions of college football guys. We're talking like this all weekend.
Starting point is 00:28:36 This is the most normal that you can. This happens constantly. And this happens constantly. I think the thing that maybe doesn't translate as well to people that aren't from around here is that it's not just fandom. And it's not the hacky joke about, oh, everybody play. They say us when they talk about the team and stuff like that. People really believe that. That have this like heavy investment and it is the uh most pure sport because the players don't do it for money it's well they do used to not yeah but um now that
Starting point is 00:29:18 it's all they do it for as far as i'm concerned but also i think the people who did go to the school it's like that's when it becomes so easy for you to say us, you know? Because you have real, legitimate... You went there. You went to the school. I had classes with people. I had classes with some of the guys on the
Starting point is 00:29:38 team. They didn't come to them very much, but I did have classes with some of the guys on the team. So yeah, so you would know. You kind of were part. If you said we did it that's kind of no i know but like you would be more you know warranted yeah exactly you are essentially his teammate you same class together you're his team you're basically his teammate and in my opinion you should have gotten to take a couple of snaps i should have gone to the game though if i was really that much of a part of the team yeah you should have gone and tried to you should have
Starting point is 00:30:11 helped out with some of the field work yeah i've never actually been to a football game in my life not even not even any have you been you've been to a sporting event though right yeah wrestling i go to rest no no no no no no no no hang on hang on sorry no disrespect i'm i'm a wrestling fan as well you know i love the old territory stuff i love the 45 minute headlocks and everything you know i love luthas but that is not a sporting event to the same sense like where there's an outcome that like you know that is not predetermined okay i can stop goofing and say yes i've been to a minor league baseball game and to an nhl match you went to the columbus blue jackets yeah it's like really close to my house and my wife can get tickets for like five dollars so so you yeah did you enjoy it okay so i've told this story on the pod cast before i was at a game where a kid got killed
Starting point is 00:31:05 so what the hell i can't really say i enjoyed it that much if i say i enjoyed it that's a problem but you sounds like you did it sounds like you had a great time you had a good time and you now feel guilty about the enjoyment you had there due to uh somebody dying which hockey puck hitting a child oh i know okay so you were at that game for some reason somehow i was at that game yes oh that's horrible that's horrible brian you know what then i was like we should ban hockey and then i went on a big yeah who stayed to ban hockey so something by play on the field in which you earn something by going undefeated by beating everybody you played now it is opinion it is politics that rules the galaxy oh wait wait wait whoa whoa whoa whoa i just realized something his children are in the back oh yeah that's why i had
Starting point is 00:32:02 to play the video uh he is driving his children to every world oh i i did not realize that they are just sitting silently in the back seat behind him as he does this and their wife is in the passenger seat for sure right like the one kid is old enough to know what he's saying definitely understand how crazy it is this is a shaping moment of her life oh yeah she will talk about this when she's older and she's like we went to disney world but my dad was obsessed about florida state university not getting into the uh championship so uh he had to turn all the music off and everything off in the car so that he could tell his twitter followers and all he did was talk about the whole because you know when the video ended he didn't stop talking about this hell dude every person like you know he sees somebody with any sort of like football thing or you know that might
Starting point is 00:32:55 be a fan he's like you hear about this fucking fsu shit i'll i'll read sam k19872020 uh that's a good name on reddit he goes don't tell anyone that we're skipping the bowl show up take a knee every offensive play on defense just stand up and let them run in waste millions in revenue for the tv if we deny it now they'll replace you with someone else and go on now smart that's smart that's somebody who watches like films like movies where like capers and things like that happen right you can't let them onto it because then they'll figure it out you gotta wait until the last minute and then boom you hit them with it and then they'll have no
Starting point is 00:33:33 way to yeah that's good and 100 that would be a very highly rated game oh it would not around it would be fantastic for college football and the revenue of it. I mean, the amount that that would be shared, the amount of videos and stuff. If they came out there and took a knee the first snap of the game, everyone in the world would turn it on TV. Yeah, I would turn it on for sure. It would start spreading around everywhere. Yeah, and then just afterwards, the amount it would be re-shared and stuff.
Starting point is 00:34:07 And it would just, yeah, everyone would be talking about it. This guy thinks it'll tank college football. And it's like, it might be the best thing that could possibly happen to college football. If it happens. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:19 It would be really good for them. They might even be trying to provoke somebody to do that with these egregious decisions they want to see the ratings that they get out of it yeah they're gonna threaten this and do it then well the LSU uh their their message board is called Tiger Droppings and that's Louisiana State University they were um they were chosen for the Relia quest bowl um and they weren't happy what's that how where is that it doesn't sound like one of the big ones no it's i don't even i'm looking up what rely quest what was the record what was the record this year let me look uh hold on i can probably
Starting point is 00:35:01 find out because they've i mean they traditionally they have a pretty good program right the tigers yeah i think they lost two if they were they were nine and three that's pretty fast yes but they're doing the rely a quest bowl which is rely a quest is who are they playing and they're in the relying uh wisconsin okay That's not too bad. I mean, it's the Reliant Quest Bowl. It's not something you can brag about. So here is LSU Rep 864. He goes, I can't imagine any of you people crying about this have any real problems in your life.
Starting point is 00:35:37 Bunch of snowflakes. I'm going to tune out, follow recruiting a bit, transfer portal a bit, see what happens with our staff. Turn on my TV. Tuning out. Saying you're going to tune out and then follow all these very, very nice things. He's tuning out of the game. That's what he's saying.
Starting point is 00:35:58 He's tuning out of the game. And then he's doing the best things ever. Like, yeah, I'm going to check in on the transfer portal every now and then he's doing those the best things ever like yeah i'm gonna you know i'm gonna do tread you know to check in on the transfer portal every now they keep that tab open read up on their staff like what dude what are you talking about you don't know what any of that means you know it's oh they look they got this guy this new equipment guy like you know just stop looking for meaning in all of this stuff it's funny because you will hear guys like saying they need to fire the offensive coach's assistant because they're
Starting point is 00:36:33 they're not taking enough risks special teams coordinator asked i mean there is definitely listen people become when they get passionate they become immediate experts on things oftentimes, you know? I'm going to turn on my TV at noon Eastern on my day off for New Year's Day. Watch LSU pound a bad Wisconsin team. Get 10 wins. Close the season on a high note. Watch the semis stress-free that evening. Then start getting ready for LSU baseball.
Starting point is 00:37:05 So, wait. He wasn't saying he was ready for LSU baseball. So, wait. He wasn't saying he was tuning out of the game. No, no. He was saying. I was wrong. He was saying that he's going to tune out. What is he tuning out then? He's going to tune out complaining about.
Starting point is 00:37:17 Oh, I see. What was I got into is the only thing I can think of. Sounds like maybe he's going to tune out his family. Sounds like he's gonna tune out his like family because he sounds like he's gonna do a lot of like like heavy duty research like it really does like that's when it becomes where it's like yeah you don't work for the team you don't have to look into all that stuff if you can do other stuff you know what i mean like i guess if it brings you happiness who am i to say because i like looking at some silly stuff like stats and shit like that but yeah it does feel like maybe you're investing your or
Starting point is 00:37:50 tying your happiness too much to that that sometimes and that can be dangerous i suppose i used to do it when i was younger with with sports seems like the canucks and shit you know do you think maybe that's why nil and the transfer portal it's taken a lot out of these guys because they have to become accountants to manage the money yeah it's transferring they got to learn all these new names and faces i don't understand the economics of this and it's really yeah but they feel they need to because now it's a part of it yeah i, I think you're probably right. This guy goes, please stop crying.
Starting point is 00:38:30 I don't want some sweaty stress ball of a game that we could lose. I really enjoyed body bagging Purdue last year, laughing and relaxing the entire second half. If playoffs or NY6 is not an option, then it's meaningless. Give me the win and let's call it a day. So he's tuning out the stress of caring who wins because it's not an important bowl game. He thinks it's good that they're in an unimportant bowl game. Oh, that's because if you're in the finals, you would be stressed out because if you lose, it would be a big deal. So it's better to actually just be in a meaningless game because then who cares? And you can relax. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:06 Yeah. That's a, that's a really, really bad point. That's zero zero seven said, I was just telling my wife if there was a bitching and crying contest, they could put LSU fans in the championship round with a playoffs. Wow.
Starting point is 00:39:21 Okay. So, yeah. So that person saying, Hey, you could make the playoffs in one area so that's kind of cool and that guy's wife was like oh god i can't believe he's talking about lsu to me again jesus christ all he talks about to his wife is lsu too you know that when a guy says i was telling
Starting point is 00:39:36 my wife about football that just means that all they talk about ever especially during the season it's gotta be crazy zamarini 2014 says it's a shitty draw in a shitty game better than the duke's mayo bowl which is what our defense deserves so he's pinning it on the defense yeah i will say being in the rely a quest bowl against wisconsin that has to be a low point for lsu like the rely quest bowl wisconsin wisconsin was terrible this year yeah i think that's why they're such a bummer this guy says you being someone who enjoyed quote body bagging purdue last year says a lot about you and the fanless experience you aspire to wow but lsu not has like a good response here. He goes, it's only the can't afford to go crowd that's complaining.
Starting point is 00:40:26 The real Tiger fans will be there. Oh, shut up, T-Cip. Yeah, it sounds like a T-Cip. It sounds like a T-Cip. Don't get shame working class people in college football. Yeah, you can. You can. You're too poor to go to the Bay.
Starting point is 00:40:42 I mean, if you're too poor to go get a hotel room and fly to a different city, then, you know. That's my mistake. I thought you couldn't. But if you can, then go ahead. I will do it from now on. Yeah, you got to. Even if you're too broke, we got to figure out a way. Sorry for being a college football fan.
Starting point is 00:40:59 Oh, that's nice. I appreciate that. This guy says, sorry for being a college football fan or just having a good conscience. Bama's success does affect LSU, in my opinion. They can't decline fast enough. Anyways, who's crying over the bowl? It's fine. LSU should win. So that's pretty nice.
Starting point is 00:41:19 I don't like how level-headed some of these people are. See, I kind of like how level-headed. Like the level-headed guys that are mean. You know what I mean? Those guys are good. Those guys are good. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean, listen, I...
Starting point is 00:41:35 Can we play some more of this guy talking on the screen with his kids in the back? Complaints of, oh, NIL transfer portal, it's tearing away at college football no no no this is what ruined this legitimately eats away at the fabric of college football yeah fsu gets left out why why okay oh the way he just he just did a little like like eyebrow like his eyebrow kind of came down and why why he wanted to do the rock face but yeah he couldn't quite pull it off and he was like trying to and he kind of thinks he like in his head he looked like the rock there i'm gonna i'm gonna there. That's the one you should use. Yeah, we're gonna use this for the for the thing. Yeah, this guy. This guy. By the way, he's got the classic.
Starting point is 00:42:34 He's got the huge hair tunnels. He's got the hair tunnel hair caves going on. Hair is very high. And he's got the huge hair tunnel. And he's got the huge hair tunnel. way he's got the classic he's got the huge um hair tunnels he's got the hair tunnel hair caves going on his hair is very high and it's tunneling out michael nolan style he's got a very weird look to him you know definitely but the weirdest thing is definitely that he's you know doing this while he's driving his family to his dealer he's driving and he's looking right at the camera with both eyes right now yeah he's he's driving the car definitely or i mean it looks like he's driving the car to me yeah he might be in the passenger seat but he's still in the car with his family he should not be driving because yeah he has not looked away from
Starting point is 00:43:25 the camera i think he pulled over to a rest stop and said honey you're gonna have to drive i gotta do a video yeah he was driving originally but they had to switch out for him to do this well we can stop at the fucking rest area and you can wait for me or you can drive while i do it okay yeah or or i'm sure his wife was like you could should do it at the hotel when we get where we're going. I got to do a different video at the hotel, honey. Why? Why? Because they won a conference championship by double digits against a top 15 team with a third-string quarterback
Starting point is 00:44:00 and just an unreal defensive performance against a great offense. Why did they deserve to get left out? Because think alabama is better recognize this everybody just say the best teams get in how do you define best because to me when you say best i hear the best teams in my opinion well those same your opinions he's getting very he's going wrestler promo now a little bit he's pointing at the camera a lot. He's pointing at his head. He's doing the Rashford head point celebration. He's pointing at his temple a lot.
Starting point is 00:44:33 He's getting very animated right now. He's turning into Louis Black. Yeah, he's definitely... Listen, he doesn't have a whole lot to say. Other than very obvious like, hey man, this seems unfair. He doesn't really have a lot to say. No, no. Very obvious, like, hey, man, this seems unfair. You know, he doesn't really have a lot of points to make. It's mostly passion.
Starting point is 00:44:51 As team Andes, you would have told me, you told me Oregon was going to be Washington on Friday. You told me Michigan was going to smash TCU last year. You told me Alabama was going to smash Auburn. Who did? And how do you explain that? I don't go by the eye test. I don't have to explain close win. No, he's not driving. I go by resort. He's not, but he's got everybody smash Auburn. Who did? And how do you explain that? I don't go by the eye test. I don't have to explain close win.
Starting point is 00:45:05 No, he's not driving. I go by result. He's not. He's got everybody in the car. It's very sad. I think he's meant to be driving, I believe. I believe he was, and I think you guys are right that they switched out for him to make the video.
Starting point is 00:45:17 And fast, okay? How do you explain how bad Alabama looked at Jordan Ayer two weeks ago? I can't, man. Unreal. His hair, man. Unreal. His hair is insane. Yeah. Paradoxically, my bias is rooted in results
Starting point is 00:45:34 and facts, not in opinion, which is what the committee did today. Wait a second. He's biased. He is biased, but his bias is based on fact. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's biased, but this guy is very cool. He just had an argument with himself in his head.
Starting point is 00:45:53 For sure. That's how this came up, the bias. He's like, people online are going to tell me I'm biased, so I need to fucking address that. Yeah, totally. I need to, yeah, swat that away right off the bat here yeah i'm biased but my bias is based on facts uh my bias is based on facts is like that's a hell of a slogan it's good it's almost like the uh again it's almost like our favorite uh a foodie well that's, yeah, that food is the greatest opinion I've ever heard.
Starting point is 00:46:28 So, here we go. Give him the last six seconds. Let him end. Jay's got to get all his thoughts out. Day for college football. They stabbed Florida State in the back. Absolutely pathetic. He brought the camera up to his
Starting point is 00:46:46 face for the end. Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic. It's pathetic. I love that. Again, why did he need to make that video? It was just him being pissed off. It was just saying what happened and how he was mad
Starting point is 00:47:02 about it. Here's an interesting question, guys, that I think I saw on College of football subreddit and uh he goes uh there were some discussions about the qb from michigan being booed and a lot of fans across the spectrum defended the player many going to the lengths of who would boo a college football player to this i pose this simple question now that name image and likeness is a thing can we start booing this guy has just been waiting to boo like you know just like trying to like every he's been booing for a while and everyone hey man you can't he's like fuck you know you just wait your own team they're not getting. He's just waiting in the fucking way. Just waiting in the bushes, lurking, waiting for it to be acceptable to boo these college
Starting point is 00:47:52 aged athletes. That's the other thing, too, is like grown men sending them hate mail is really wild. Like they get death threats like there was a guy on ohio state that missed the ball on the goal line uh uh and they lost the game because of this thing and the guy was a receiver or something he was a receiver he was supposed to and he just missed it's just one of those things where sometimes you miss and uh he got death threats from actual adult men they had to like move his dorm and stuff like that. I know the feeling.
Starting point is 00:48:28 Sometimes you miss. Sometimes you're talking about a bowl committee and you say something that just doesn't hit. You know, I get it. I know about missing. There's a guy I follow on Twitter, and he'll tweet at players, but he won't tweet like mean things. He'll be like, Hey man, you got to put your,
Starting point is 00:48:47 you got to put your right handle two inches to the left when you're posting. He like sent some tips for how to get better. That's so nice. And, and like, he's not joking around. He is fully serious.
Starting point is 00:48:59 He believes that he's like, Hey, I am sort of helping out. And I wonder if he ever watches the game and he's just like oh somebody saw my tweet you know like he like does something and he's like telling people that he's watching it with like look look pull up my tweet show it look i told him to do that i totally believe he does that this guy goes uh uh where are we at here oh did i okay yeah he goes uh to this i pose this simple question now that name image and likeness is a thing can we start booing
Starting point is 00:49:31 caleb williams signed a 2.4 million dollar deal there are people that will work their whole life and never see that much money so now they can boo the guy that little do they know that this is like the first time in history that a guy that, you know, like gets a career ending injury when he, his, his potential was millions of dollars and he, he does it not yet. He's not getting paid. If he gets injured, then that all goes down is, uh, you know, that seems like justice now. and i don't think there's really any justification for booing someone for performance related reasons even the coach you should always support your team during a game i can get behind an exception for laziness general jackassery but not if they're being they're trying their best so yeah okay yeah don't boo someone who's trying their best i mean i
Starting point is 00:50:22 don't boo people on my own team like i support the white caps in the mls i go to the games i have season tickets and i but i'll tell you what like there's a guy max crap oh who he forced his way out to go to lafc and so he came for the playoffs and they played and we booed him every single time he touched the ball. I would have done some crap-o jokes, like crap-o. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I never even. Okay.
Starting point is 00:50:50 Yeah. That does sort of sound like crap-o. But, yeah, it is fun to boo people collectively. You have to go to wrestling. Yeah. Yeah, totally. Wrestling is all about that. Yeah, like all the people booing everything they see at an AEW
Starting point is 00:51:05 event or whatever because it's all such fucking trash. So there are a few things... Have you ever seen this AEW shit? I've seen the AEW. I've seen the crowds. They're dwindling. They're all dwindling. What do you dwindle from when you
Starting point is 00:51:21 ain't got no dwind to begin with? These are tiny, tiny crowds to begin with. Brian showed me an image one time. The whole one side wasn't even filled. No, that's not true. And here's the thing. Their audience has dwindled for sure. And that's because of bad booking.
Starting point is 00:51:39 And because the headlocks aren't long enough. And they disrespect the sport as well. They don't disrespect the sport. They probably respect the sport way more than other companies. Oh, yeah, definitely. Yeah, it says as the guy wrestles with his hands in his pockets. He's a very good wrestler, Chris. I don't think we need to make fun of orange
Starting point is 00:52:05 cassidy doesn't respect the craft doesn't respect the crowd he may well be he may well be a good wrestler but he has a disrespect for the craft and for that he deserves the electric chair i do want to say because chris has gotten me in trouble chris has told me that i'm getting in trouble now when i don't defend aew well i didn't say i just people noticed that online some people were messaging and saying in the discord that you're like your defense of aew has gotten less and less as you become less enthused with the product yourself and it's harder for you to defend it which is really fun for me i've been i've even i've noticed in my YouTube recommendations a couple of Cornette videos
Starting point is 00:52:48 that I might have to watch and co-opt the opinions from to make you mad. Don't do that. So there are some weird things, some weird traditions. We talked about the,, we absolutely talked about the, um, what's it called? The crossing out the M's and jumping in mirror Lake and stuff like that. And I'm looking for this because I forgot that somebody did explain this to
Starting point is 00:53:17 me. There is a football team that grabs their balls, uh, to hurt them. So, uh, yeah, they have to throw them to the receiver would you say to hurt them yeah uh that
Starting point is 00:53:33 to hurt themselves as much as the team oh never mind i guess not uh somebody was explaining stuff to me are you are you saying misinformation i'm probably saying misinformation i had a very hard time man what are you that what's that guy's name from the um h uh james somerton i hope he doesn't get me i do i do oh i hate i hope h bomber guy doesn't get you i'm gonna send the tapes don't don't because i did spread misinformation i know and you're and you um what a piece of shit i am i messed that up uh so here is another guy from fuck where is it okay so the ohio state quarterback is headed into the transfer portal this year uh kyle mccord uh they went 11 and one so he's got to get out of there because they had that loss
Starting point is 00:54:26 oh that's an embarrassing season yeah when you have an 11 and one season you gotta you gotta look elsewhere you gotta go to a better program yeah yeah yeah and uh or the time and the guy says buckeye starting quarterback kyle mccord and transfer portal and then uh the guy captioned it and says or the title could have said everything that's wrong with college football or when 11 and one isn't good enough and roadkill barbecue. Wait, wait, do they get don't doesn't Ohio State get a lot of people in the transfer portal? You have no idea how. I mean, the team is great every year. They don't.
Starting point is 00:55:07 they don't so so the one time it sort of goes against them then this guy's like well this is everything that's wrong with this whole fucking bullshit organization you gotta shut it down yeah you gotta shut it down it's like yeah it was great before and they didn't even like him they didn't even like him they hated him all year and then he enters the transfer portal and now they're like well this this is outrageous well roadkill barbecue said free agency the new area era of college football has dawned no one will be immune those who prosper will learn to use the portal and recruiting simultaneously while understanding loyalty is a thing of the past. Oh, man, that sucks. Because for me, it's all about loyalty, baby. And, you know, I think, of course, it's a thing of the past. But can it be a thing of the present and a thing of the future as well? Come on.
Starting point is 00:55:55 You don't know how many guys have also said it's all about the pocketbook now. It's all about the pocketbook. And it used to be about loyalty. That's the bottom line. Now, I do want it. People are going to say,ris why aren't you pointing out brian's flubs this episode because they get mad at me when i don't point them out because i think oh he's you know letting them go and the reason is because he started off with such a just an incredible flub that is going to obviously dominate all of the comments. It's not even worth bringing the other ones up.
Starting point is 00:56:25 Okay. I am tired. I am messing up. I'm flubbing. It's okay. No, you're not. No, it's Brian. It's okay.
Starting point is 00:56:33 We're here with you, man. We're not getting mad at you. We're just, again, I don't even know if anyone's continued paying attention after the beginning. I think a lot of them just went to the message boards. They started messaging the other flub heads, planning out parties and so on. So I don't even know if we've still got them. Hi, guys.
Starting point is 00:56:54 What did I say? I think you said, how's shit going? How's shit going? How's it going, Chris? No, you said wash up. Yeah, wash up. Wash up, Chris. Yeah, wash up. Wash up, Chris.
Starting point is 00:57:05 Wash up, Chris. Yeah, wash up. Wash up, Chris. Yeah. So, yeah, the only thing I had left was, you know, we talked a lot about the Florida State University situation where people are very angry about that. I talked about some of our fine traditions here in Ohio.
Starting point is 00:57:28 I did get hipped to a guy that runs a thing called Message Board Genius that I thought we could run through real quick because he has a lot of really good posts. And here's one about the FSU thing. And this is from Ozzy Matt Diaz. And he goes, some chatter in FSU circles about federal government intervening to remove Bama. And the guy responds, he goes, federal. Federal.
Starting point is 00:57:55 It's going to go federal? It might go federal. I guess NCAA is federal, right? Well, it's not federal. Well, it's got to be federal. Well, yeah. It's involved RICO federal. Well, it's got to be federal. Well, yeah. It's involved RICO violations. Yeah, there's RICO violations.
Starting point is 00:58:10 I mean, this is honestly, in my opinion, like maybe the UN should get involved. The United Nations. And it's good because this fan of Florida State says this. He goes, not sure what the reality of such action is. FSU is prepared to work with congress slash the executive branch in court supposedly so that's very cool with the executive branch excellent i would love to see this sort of i know there is some others there's
Starting point is 00:58:37 whatever there's other sort of shit going on i guess in congress and stuff that is a little has some importance but i'd like to see that stuff taken back see and congress to get working full time on this particular situation with sfu fsu and uh and what's it what's the other what's the bama is who they want out right yeah we got to get bama out of here bama doesn't deserve to bama bama wasn't even they lost a game they lost one full game so yeah as far as i'm concerned i keep saying sfu because that is the other university it's ubc and sfu is the other one locally here in vancouver here's one from war champ which i think that's war eagle that's auburn right yeah this guy says uh
Starting point is 00:59:19 why is deon's number still retired he says he craps all over us at every turn. Give number two to one of the breakout freshmen. Dion shouldn't get any special treatment anymore. And then the Fandingo24 responded and goes, glad to see his fiance broke it off, hoping his son doesn't heal from his injury and he loses another toe. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:59:43 Sorry. Sorry. You hope another toe. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. You hope his son loses. Yeah. You hope his son loses another toe. He got hurt during a game this year. Yeah, yeah. But you hope he loses another toe?
Starting point is 00:59:56 Auburn fans can be pretty nasty. I mean, that's nasty. Yeah, yeah. They're very nasty. They wanted their head coach fired last year and i remember they were posting on the message boards like maybe we can make him the janitor and he'll just like quit on his own holy fuck i don't think the program would do that i think they would fire him i don't think i don't think he would accept the job yeah as a janitor i think he would actually well i think he would basically say like well this is
Starting point is 01:00:26 highly unusual and i think probably even a labor board would get involved at that point it is truly one of the this reading these guys try to figure out ways out of you know these situations that they find themselves in um here's one from Duck Territory. That's Oregon. He goes, we should have declined this bowl game and opted for Alamo or Holiday Bowl. Is that how it works? Could you just decline a bowl and opt for another one?
Starting point is 01:00:56 Yeah, I think so. I mean, you can ask. Kirk Herbstreet, which was an Ohio State player who is a pundit on college football. Florida State fans are kind of mad at him. And he goes, ban Kirk from Doak. Seriously, he should not be allowed anywhere close to our campus forever. I like that.
Starting point is 01:01:16 It's like, what would that even matter to him? Do you know what I mean? Like, how is that even a good punishment? Like, he's like, even if you were able to enforce it, how would that really, like, he's like, oh, I guess I can't go there anymore, you know? Well, he's, and this is, I hope he breaks out with a thousand, and I don't know what the thousand things is and dies of the drizzling shits they want him dead they'd like him to be dead Warrior Noel48
Starting point is 01:01:52 says he's got a red dot sight on his forehead okay this might be taking a little too far that seems like that seems like it's a threat that he say got i'm gonna shoot him in the head i don't think you could say that beech knoll said getting
Starting point is 01:02:13 the opportunity to tune his arse up would be worth every second i spent in the leon county pokey this guy would serve jail time to assault him. What did he do? What are they still mad about? Did he hurt somebody? Oh, no, no, no. Brian, what did he do? Can you find out what he did so we know what this is all in response to, please? I think that's important for context here to know what it is that he did to upset these fans. Looking. Okay. at these fans looking um okay so he shared his uh reaction to alabama making the playoff over
Starting point is 01:02:49 florida he took to social media and he says herb streak acknowledged that many people were upset with these rankings the undefeated florida state seminoles were left off in favor of the one loss alabama crimson tide the veteran analyst veteran analyst acknowledged that Alabama should have and did get the edge over the Seminoles. That's what he said. That's the end of it? Very reasonable response. Somebody said they were going to
Starting point is 01:03:15 shoot him with a sniper. One guy was thinking about tuning him up. And turning himself in afterwards. That's the best part. He up and like turning himself in afterwards that's honorable that's very honorable and well you know what it's about it's about loyalty at the end of the day here's another guy with a kneeling thing here both teams know they got screwed fsu went undefeated if the committee was going with the four best teams and there's no argument that georgia isn't a better
Starting point is 01:03:50 team than michigan or texas the only logical solution here is obvious both teams must come together and decide to kneel it every single play the game would never end and would go on for unlimited overtimes until they would never end the game would never that is that's fucking smart they couldn't start a new season even because the game was still the new transfers are getting put into the game they're working in the transfer portal and bringing in new people and yeah that is a that's one of the most brilliant plans I've ever heard. The game would never end. The season would never officially end, and the future of college football
Starting point is 01:04:30 could never continue. Oh, he said what I was saying. The joke I made, he said seriously after. He said college football could never continue. It would be the end of it, because they, listen, and like, honestly, yeah, they would just would be the end of it because they listen and like honestly yeah they
Starting point is 01:04:45 would they had to just keep playing the game forever this is smart the game as it will come to be known will become a beacon of hope that harmonizes and unifies not only the country but the world so that person might be you might be joking that person's joking i think i don't know i don't think so i want to believe the part at the end sort of tips it as a joke but who knows yeah yeah yeah um and here let's see if we can uh okay here's here's one uh this is another uh this is another florida state plan norville amps the guys up beat the sec monster and uga show leadership and no quit uga is actually a good matchup for fsu fight to get as many guys to play as possible finish undefeated to hope bama wins the title
Starting point is 01:05:40 openly challenge them to a non-nca double h sanction oh we're talking call out i mean yeah you make a video call out on youtube and you send it to them and if they don't respond they're considered to be soft well watch bama decline and run for the hills make saban look like a bitch win over recruits yeah yeah that's that's what it'll do people if if one program goes and makes like a uh challenges them to an unofficial non-sanctioned mat a game then and then and then the other the other coach says no we're not going to do that everyone who's watching will be like oh that guy who didn't want to do it is such a bitch yeah well i'll be sitting around talking about how nick saban's a bitch for the rest yeah we'll be like why wouldn't saban play that game and like risk
Starting point is 01:06:35 injury you know for all of his players for like a unsanctioned game that would probably get them in a lot of trouble i would imagine i don't even. I don't think they would be allowed to do it. They'd have to do it, like, spur of the moment. You don't announce that it's happening. It just starts, boom, it's happening. That's how good parties happen anyways. It just spreads word of mouth. Like, you have a couple people that you just call and tell them
Starting point is 01:06:59 that the game's on, and they, like, tell their friends, and then it slowly starts filling out. By the fourth quarter, it's going to be totally totally full um and then of course of course the game will go on forever because in that game i would imagine also just kneel the whole time so yeah i mean this is this is rick flair showing up with the real world title yeah wwf like totally this is the real this game is the real national championship because understand fsu cannot avoid this orange bowl game they must finish the season undefeated and posture from that end then have road maker in front of the cameras and tell the committee to suck it that how's the oh like to literally do the dx thing
Starting point is 01:07:45 from wrestling they suck it maybe this guy does watch yeah this guy watches wrestling he's a wrestling guy for sure uh this guy says fsu needs to buy a section at the michigan game and send the marching chiefs we need to troll these scumbags oh marching band to the other game that's not allowed there's no way you're getting in with your well actually they would sneak the instruments in you know you pass the tuba sort of under the fence and you'd get the big drums would be the hardest but yeah you would find a way to make it happen it would be listen it's actually i don't know if you've seen uh comedy films have you seen any comedy i this i believe a lot of these people who are writing these have seen a lot of comedy films
Starting point is 01:08:30 that are sort of picturing these scenarios in a similar way you know that you would like there would be some funny scenario where they would be able to sneak in as the band some hijinks but yeah you're right it might be difficult in reality to have your entire marching band go and sit in a section of the stadium and troll them and even then i think it would probably be so loud with the actual band and all of that stuff that really the six figures of people there could probably and also what are you gonna troll you what are you going to play bad? What's the troll even if you get in there with the band? Like, are you just, oh, I guess you're going to play like Florida State songs? Yeah, you play your March songs.
Starting point is 01:09:14 Yeah. Here's an interesting theory I found. FSU silently is hoping to get passed over by the college football playoff. Wait, hear me out. Without Travis, they aren't winning a national championship. Just isn't going to happen. So they take the PR hit of getting screwed over as an undefeated P4 champion and put that out to their donors and the justification for bolting from the ACC. If an undefeated FSU can't get into the college football playoff, then there's no reason to stay in the ACC. They'll be screaming and yelling in the press and
Starting point is 01:09:45 whipping their supporters up into a feeding frenzy all while working for an exit they'll be talking to clemson as well as proof that's going forward they no longer control their destiny as an undefeated acc champ so that's maybe a suggestion that they did it on purpose well listen i don't that one seems the most believable just in the sense that there would be like some corruption and they want to leave that and they would do this but isn't the reason that they would want to leave because they weren't selected by that same committee that they so if they were working with the people why didn't when they just have them select them for the playoffs? Well, here's our last guy.
Starting point is 01:10:27 These are some Florida Seminoles people. And this is from Knowles247. Florida State Seminoles, by the way. The Florida Gators. This is the college. It starts with a link to the collegefootballplayoff.com slash sports slash selection committee slash roster and this is just say you have names it's easier to find their emails and addresses to vent considering
Starting point is 01:10:52 they signed up to be public finger figures in this joke of committee public fingers i will call that one out their names are not protected i really do hope fsu sues and drags the texts and emails out into the open. So docs, he's not, he's going docs job on them or, I mean, not, it's not like a,
Starting point is 01:11:12 but you know what I mean? He's like trying to basically, it's not an actual docs because it's public stuff. Right. But he's basically saying contact these people. Well, he's sure Fox and ESPN would ship bricks and it would be great for college football to see who was lobbying and bribing
Starting point is 01:11:26 The committee That would be good yeah I personally think It's inappropriate to Find somebody in that sort of way Track them down and contact them This guy is saying what about addresses Asking for a friend
Starting point is 01:11:41 Come on brother Is it the same guy with the red dot on herb street yeah i hope not here's this guy mjl3413 he goes yeah i need home addresses kids and schools their kids go to wives place of work it's a school project so that person sounds unwell brian you've just brian just casually throwing in these like deeply disturbed like homicidal individuals guys listen i think they're probably right that it sounds to me like florida state probably should have got picked for it but it sounds like you know it's up for debate and the system itself is probably not perfect and allows for this type of thing to happen i don't think anyone's children need to be dealt with well luckily somebody did come in and say uh can we
Starting point is 01:12:37 stop with the threat of bodily harm to the committee members esP-N I don't know E-S-E-C-P-N Talking heads That user That user has been banned I know we're all mad as hell About getting screwed over But threatening physical abuse Sounds like something We should hear from
Starting point is 01:12:55 S-C Scum fans You know Actions and consequences And bad things Should happen to bad people I'm not condoning it But I sure as hell Ain't gonna to lose sleep over it, says this guy.
Starting point is 01:13:09 And this guy goes, I don't advocate bodily harm, but I certainly advocate doing anything and everything possible to ruin their professional careers. At the very least, they deserve that. Karma is a bitch. That's worse than bodily harm. Like, you know, getting punched in the face or like having your entire personal and professional life destroyed i think i'll take a pop in the cheek over that you know this guy says karma's a bitch and karma needs to ruin their professional careers so so these people this is like these are ang this is an angry internet mob well this guy actually twins 4b
Starting point is 01:13:45 pile says i since i seriously would lose no sleep if crazy caught up with any of the committee or pundits in bristol my response oh dang crazy done got him hell hell in a hand basket we go how's that for meeting the original poster yeah that person probably has like a wife and kids grandkids maybe do you know what i mean like pop pop pop up you know can you swing me around on the swing pop up and he's like on his phone posting this shit on this message talking about a red dot alpine no somebody did respond to one of these and say you're proving that some of our fans are no better than Scum and Gate fans. Sad day for our program. Scum is in South Carolina? Scum is in South Carolina? Yeah, I think it's
Starting point is 01:14:30 SEC or South, yeah. And this guy responds to that and he goes, sorry, I'm a firm believer in karmic retribution. Evil people who screw over hardworking people for their own power and gain belong in the seventh circle of hell. Like, the only people that are being really screwed over are like i guess they probably make less money right yeah like like like
Starting point is 01:14:54 it is serious do you know what i mean like playing in a bowl game or whatever like that is it probably won't have that much of an effect on somebody's ability to play like in the nfl you know like it's not going to affect any of the players in that way so really it's a thing uh where they're going to lose a little bit of revenue yeah well he says uh and if that happens to them while they're still living so be it turn the other cheek was created to convince powerless people to bend over and take it so they wouldn't bring out the guillotines now listen there's some truth to that we've heard of the guillotines and and all of that stuff and and we you know that would be great but you know i don't think it's for college football it's not for college football
Starting point is 01:15:37 stuff and for if anything it's maybe for the payment of college football athletes by the programs making mass amounts of money and not by these private individuals who then like perverted and make it all bizarre because yeah that's something worth fighting for because it's like the the rights of workers people who are like literally putting their body on the line for entertainment and all this money is being generated they should be compensated for it you guys it's not worth it for florida state not getting to the you know to the final four of the college football shit you guys want to hear what fsu's best recourse is from the buck nuts message board that's yeah my guys uh i'm if i'm the fsu players i demand
Starting point is 01:16:21 that i get back paid for the season and nil from ESPN and any other networks that use my likeness for their broadcast games. That's not... Okay, and then it'll be immediately thrown out in court because you don't have any sort of contract that says that you're entitled to that. So what do you do next? And the lead-ins where they show players' faces, et cetera, to drum up coverage. the lead-ins where they show players' faces, etc. to drum up coverage. The entire discussion before NIL was that players were supposed to get paid some of the billions that the schools and networks are raking in in their likeness. Instead, they legalized anything goes NIL to shut the players up, and it worked for now. Oddly enough, the players aren't getting NIL from the networks
Starting point is 01:17:01 that use their likeness all the time to sell coverage to the games but the players were also led to believe they're risking bodily harm for a reason to win a title oh oh i see i was gonna say how is this tie into florida state at all because it just sounds like he's making a good point about players in general that they should be demanding this money but he's saying that as part of this idea they thought they were gonna have a chance to win a title now they're being screwed over a chance to win a title. Now they're being screwed over. So it's like a breach or something. The challenge, win every game in P5 league and you get in the playoffs. When UGA beat Bama, it was clear Texas was going to get in the playoffs over Bama because they beat them by two scores head to head at their own home.
Starting point is 01:17:41 They had to switch the argument to take out FSU so the SEC didn't get left out. at their own home. They had to switch the argument to take out FSU so the SEC didn't get left out. So once again, money is trumping player pay and safety by getting left out of this. This is the perfect opportunity for FSU players to use their platforms to demand they get paid for playing and for all the networks using their likeness.
Starting point is 01:18:00 They've already been left out, so what more harm can they do to them? Listen, i'm coming around on this guy's point this might be the first this is kind of like hey listen you've already been screwed over why don't you become like sort of a trailblazer for this whole idea i don't know the how all this works well enough to know if he's talking complete shit but it sounds like his heart is in the right place because i guarantee once they come out a million lawyers will come to represent them just for the free advertising alone let alone the big payday if they win in court
Starting point is 01:18:29 while it won't fix they're being screwed over out of the playoffs it will be ultimate fu to espn the college football machine that essentially use them in their bodies especially jordan travis to make billions all while screwing them out of the money they should be earning so that is the most reasonable it's not gonna work oh yeah because they don't have any legal standing i don't think probably like they would protect themselves espn they have very expensive lawyers and legal departments that would look into all of this shit unfortunately but yeah it's that that that person seems like a reasonable individual at least better than the most better than the guy who's like hey i'm i'm gonna get a sniper rifle and kill the guy who said that it was fine that fsu didn't make it in yeah he wasn't doing
Starting point is 01:19:16 he was kind of doing amateur lawyering but whatever you know that's a message board thing so totally xj tell people where to find you thanks for doing the show with us yeah it's actually thanks for coming on it was fun to talk with you about it because you're you actually know college football you know i do too i live in ohio no you don't know it though because you don't understand sports so you only understand the fandom side of it you don't you don't know you know about the sports side. I watch sports every Wednesday night at 8 o'clock on TNT. No, you don't.
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Starting point is 01:21:04 Alright, we'll see you guys next week with MCU Guys with Vince Mancini, which is also a very fucking funny episode. Bye!

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