Guys: With Bryan Quinby - Guys: Episode 48 - Magicians with Stefan Heck

Episode Date: January 9, 2024

Abracadabra! We are back with a magical show! This week we look at magicians! Should you bring your own table to a party? What is a good non-1 coin trick to do with 1 coin? Why do magicians hate Criss Angel? You will learn about magic but don't worry, we don't expose any of the tricks. You can hear Stefan on Blocked Party and Go Off Kings and he is great! There is much more Chris at twitter.com/thecjs and of course https://www.patreon.com/notevenashow And for more Guys content, streams and SHOCKTOBER: a deep dive into shock jocks you can click patreon.com/murderxbryan twitter.com/murderxbryan and twitch.tv/murderxbryan

Welcome to Guys, a podcast about guys. I am Brian, and my co-host is the ultimate layman chris james uh and hello okay the ultimate layman i mean i guess you know some of us magicians we don't look down on you our job is to entertain you sorry you're okay so i decided i'm a magician i want to be a magician now we'll get into that in just a second i gotta get our guests on stefan heck what's up stefan hello hi hi guys i'm very happy to be here i'm sorry i'm sorry john couldn't be here that's okay it's that canadian immune system i'm a guy from la it doesn't really wait wait hang on a second so for the purpose of this argument, you're now not Canadian and you're from LA and made up. Okay.

So you're, that's fair. Call it LA. Like they, they kind of, we call it LA. Yeah. I would call it Los Angeles,

but you guys call it LA. You're not. Stefan literally lived there. Well, I called it LA when I lived there, but now I call it Los Angeles. Cause I can't live there. Once you're out,

you know, you call it, but yeah, John's sick. He, he, he caught the COVID. I called it LA when I lived there, but now I call it Los Angeles. Cause once you're out, you know, you call it, but yeah, John's sick. He, he, he caught the COVID. So,

you know, I have to record with him on Monday. Hopefully he's better by then. And I'll, I'll be recording on that episode too. Yeah, that's right. I have to listen to,

I think it's like a nightmare before. Well, I don't want to spoil it. Oh, that's going to suck. It's like a 70 before. Well, I don't want to spoil it. Oh, that's going to suck. It's like a 70-minute album. Yeah. So we are talking about magicians this week.

That's why I called Chris a layman. And I'm just going to start this off right now. From the first thing I pulled for this show, I wanted to become a magician right away. It was literally the first thing that I thought. Is this in addition to all the lego stuff or would this be kind of like would you be like a magician maybe a lego magician where you do like yeah magic tricks but they're all made out of lego like you pull a rabbit out of a hat

but the hat's lego and the rabbit is too yeah i like that maybe i'll add Legos. I could do a lot with my coins. Maybe I'll add Legos. Dude, you don't have an act. Why are you acting like... He might have an act. What's your act? What's your angle as a magician? You can't just hold up a Kevin Smith challenge coin. That's what he's

doing. Can you make that thing disappear? I'm going to. That's one of the things i'm gonna learn is how to make my kevin smith challenge coin uh disappear well you did you did succeed and you did succeed it's like more visible yeah making your kevin it was actually more visible because you turned it around to the side that was like colorful so it was like easier to see my trick was making my money disappear buying a kevin smith challenge and their trick was making it somehow not look like kevin smith

at all like can i get it can i get a closer look at this because i've seen it before but i i do want to so that's kevin smith apparently no it's not yeah i, I know. Oh, he dropped it. Oh, fuck it. I got this new mic. And that's the other side. That's not him either. It looks like a demon. Yeah, right.

Right. Yeah. But this is going to be worth something. I'm going to hand it down to my daughter when she gets older. She's going to she's going to. She's going to hand it down to the nearest trash can. What is it worth right now? Because you bought how much?

Nothing, Stefan. It's not worth anything. What was the price you paid for it? $15 a month for four months on the Kevin Smith Patreon on the Funployee level. Okay, so $60. But really, you were getting other stuff for the $60. No, you don't. No, you actually.

I was not getting other stuff. Kevin $60. No, you don't. No, you actually, I was not getting other stuff. Kevin's been recording an episode that whole time. He never posts at all. How many patrons does he have? Does he have a lot of patrons? Yep. I wouldn't think. They're happy with a coin every four months? Yeah.

It's a one-time thing. I mean, it's a one-time thing. You get the coin once, and then what the fuck? What else? You get a bonus audio when he does it when he act when he does it when does he do it well he does these meditations every once in a while which is like 15 minutes of him kind of talking into the camera about whatever he's thinking about that morning he hasn't been doing them for a couple months because he's making a movie so okay but he it's 50 minutes he could just do that in the morning or like on the set or something like he's got movie stuff to do

he could do like a 50 minute thing where he's like updating the patrons oh gosh these customers are all such prima donna listen he's busy just take the one challenge coin and give him your fucking money every month i don't care how much money he already has i guess it's a big coin so that's that is nice it's not like a regular wait my daughter walked in the room she's like oh that's got some weight i don't know that guy yeah i was like oh it's like it reminds me of uh if you ever played pogs and not hey not that kind it's 2023 it's not that calm down it's not that kind of pop it's pog it's pog yeah um but if you ever played with the slammers and having like the metal slammer was like so cool that was great absolutely well let me tell you i looked up tricks i think i'm gonna go buy a trick or two

brian brian brian brian brian at the magic store don't come on i heard that if you go to the magic store and you can really prove you're a magician see this, this is the deal. How do you do that? How do you prove you're a magician? You have to obviously make something disappear or trick them or something. I do some tricks. I'm going to learn a few tricks. I'm going to buy a few tricks, right? Then I'm going to go to the magic store.

I'm going to do the tricks for the guy at the counter, and then he'll take me into the back room where the real tricks are. I'll suck you off. Wait, that sounds like you were referring to and you're saying tricks as well which i you know it really does known term for it yeah brian you're not beating those sex guy uh allegations magic magic is a sexy thing so i get it you know okay i feel like i feel like being a magician down at hedonism uh like you would you would pull so much like 70 year old that's true you're that you're you're probably right in certain circumstances i guess it would be sexy i think an older audience would respond to it i don't know if like

it's really can like if we if normal people younger people were to watch magicians i don't know if they would find it to be a sex. Well, you have to be like a, you have to be like a David Blaine type. You have to be like a sexy magician, right? Yeah.

Blaine was sexy. Yeah. Or yeah. You know? Oh, they do have a Chris angel, Chris angel. Oh,

Chris angel was just dripping with sex. We've got a lot to talk. We're going to learn a lot about Chris. I'm really excited. Cause I, I do. Did you, well,

we can, we can talk about when we get to it, but he has he has a restaurant in uh just outside vegas and it's incredible i don't know i don't know if you discovered that or not no let's start with the the this is from our magic and i found it interesting this person is it's a nihilistic zealot he goes, parlor tricks. Hello, wall. Friend of mine is hosting a rather dashing Victorian-themed holiday party this year. I had the notion of doing a few effects, but I was looking for any information on what kind of tricks magicians might do back in the day. Any books on the subject I would also be grateful for.

My area of expertise is cards and close-up but i have done a little bit prop work thus far please note i do not have access to a spirit cabinet nor is it entirely portable and i am rubbish with knots so well i don't know because rubbish obviously does that is like british coded but i think he could also be one of those like insufferable north american guys who's really into like old timey shit yeah rubbish would just be something they might say in an old time he probably says like bloody you know yeah bloody hell yeah so so this person wants to know like i'm going to a old party that's like so i want to know old tricks from like a different time period is that what they're asking I think those are probably easier tricks to do too, right? Yeah.

It's so much stupider back. That's the problem. I don't know. You can't really be doing those tricks now. I don't know that they would fool a modern audience. Oh, we'll talk about that in a minute. But here's I first thing I thought was, dude, this isn't your party. You know what I mean?

You're going to go in there and just walk around doing magic tricks to everybody yeah that you think that wouldn't be like a cool thing if you were at a party i don't know i kind of think that if i was at a party and someone was going around doing magic tricks to people i kind of would like that but that feels like something they would like hire someone to do specifically oh yeah yeah yeah you think that somebody would somebody would you they would want to oversee who they were having to do that not just they're going to be the center of attention and it's just i do agree with you but i'll be honest with you i kind of like live in a world where i just like

like the idea of being a random party where random guy is doing random magic tricks i do kind of like that me too i don't think i would go to a victorian party ever oh no oh no i was victorian part of it i would not like no that would be so easy to to get out of going to it because you could be in character you'd be like oh i have a scarlet fever yeah i would just say i'm not buying i'm not buying the damn clothes you know you'd have to get the yeah you'd have to get the clothes those are gonna be expensive and super uncomfortable also ain't not gonna be able to wear them again no unless you're one of those freaks who's really into that sort of thing here's some really interesting advice this guy gives our managa he goes uh just do your normal set list but while standing most

of the plots of magic are old anyway anyway just have a table and bring up volunteers their reaction will be the most important part of the show anyway this is the worst advice yeah what do you tell that's just this is general magic advice yeah it's just completely it's not specific to the victorian era not at all he's like so what you're gonna want to bring yeah because they're gonna like being part of the show it's like this guy's this guy's already a magic guy he knows this shit already yeah bring a table bring it walk into a party with a full-size table that might like if somebody came into a party and they had a full-size table they might get stopped by something that's really that's really crazy that's like the um the british fast

food review guy that i watch sometimes who's like genuinely a nice guy and it's his rate my takeaway and his thing is and he's like a big fat british guy and he'll go to um you know chip places or whatever and and then he brings a folding table and he'll just eat outside of the place and it's like but that's kind of endearing right This would bring a magician bringing their own table to a party. If you're outside. Yeah. And even then, I guess at a party,

I don't think setting up outside and doing magic tricks is what if it's windy too. And like the cards get blown away. Right. Like, yeah, you got to come inside, but then yeah,

it's like, you're coming in with the table, bump into the wall. You know, it's like we, we had a the table bump into the wall like we had a table yeah doing all the tables we needed we had organized around

the amount of tables we have now the magician guy going up to the homeowner and be like do you mind moving your dining room table so I can set up my magic table there having to like curve the table through the doorway it's not foldable and like getting the legs around and it's like so there's everyone

has to move y'all just like sitting down like what are you totally stops the party like completely music turns off everyone's trying to like help it come in yeah um so yeah so his he goes uh uh he goes aside from that just tell your tailor your patter appropriately for the theme you're far better off modifying what you already know well as opposed to introducing unfamiliar material that's good advice i would suggest closing with a card stab it plays big and easy for anyone to follow encore with cups and balls from stars of magic hang on a second no now this guy's trying to tell him the entire act he should this is not what he's looking for this guy knows about cups and balls and cards that like buddy you're gonna try to tell him

like exactly the order in which why don't you go and do it why don't you just go well if you said that too i'm sure this guy would go and do it uh so i have this this this other question from reddit is what can i do with one coin besides that one coin routine which is an odd question i guess you could do like a two coin routine yeah if you had a mirror if you had a mirror you could do a two coin perhaps he goes i love coin magic i always have one silver dollar with me when i leave the house almost as a comfort item magical possibilities multiply many times over if i bring two and oftentimes i'll bring a ring designed to look like a silver dollar for some garrett thomas styled spellbound effects but i'm not planning

to perform i usually just bring a single coin anyway just in case just in case i have to perform just in case somebody's like can anybody do do mad close-up magic anybody on this plane do close-up magic we have someone who needs to be mesmerized back to life one guy stands up and he's like uh i only have one coin yeah and then the other guy he's like reaching into his pocket and like the air marshal just like shoots him in the head i've gotten quite good at my own one coin routine but i'm wondering what else i could do with a single coin some ideas that have struck me for instance oh well i got an idea buy buy a bag of chips you could flatten the coin you could flatten the coin on a train track that'd be great or in one of those crank machines crank machines vacation place you know machine is

actually what i call the television. I love these. This podcast is not, Stephan, we don't do stuff like that here. Sorry. We got which hand is one of the ones he does in his routine.

Stephan's right. Come on, Chris. We don't do that kind of stuff. Wait, sorry. Is one of the tricks which hand do I have the coin in? Yeah. We don't do that kind of stuff. Wait, sorry. Is one of the tricks, which hand do I have the coin in? Yeah. 50-50 chance. Or I guess he could have it somewhere else. He did the thing where he pounced them together.

Right. Yeah. Okay. Free will using a coin, a pen, and a watch. So I don't know what that is. These names. Predicting the outcome of coin tosses what how do you do that one this is guessing right this is guessing what it's 50 50 guessing you're

talking about now that's not magic well can you flip it a certain amount of times man you know what i mean maybe somebody's really skillful could like be like he's got like he's got like a fake coin that has like it's like heads both sides or something you know like switch it out you know yeah i'm gonna be like i can do this 10 in a row like yeah but even then it's like it's like okay cool well i mean you could maybe you could maybe get some drinks out of it or like you know win some money or something like bet people yeah here's a little my favorite is an old trick where you place a coin on your toe and then kick it up to your forehead the original is to kick it up to your eye like a

monocle then you would drop the coin into your breast pocket it's more juggling than magic but it's still a good trick and it's like yeah that's not magic no it's a sweet trick it's sweet like i think that is cool that's impressive for sure yeah if i saw someone do that i would be very impressed i wouldn't be like how did you do that no you know how they like they it was a lot of practice and it's like well it was on your toe you flipped it up to your eye or your forehead and then you dropped it on your pocket like i there's no i'd like nothing in the background here personally i'd like to see it in the eye i'd like that monocle yes that's impressive because you have to catch it by sort of like like winking almost but i also i also think it's kind of easier to do it that way honestly

because you gotta it's a little you know it's a little it's an indent sort of yeah yeah yeah well uh i also took a look at oh let's do this uh Do you ever do this? Before I even go into it, I would never do this for another magician ever, but I have yet to perform for another magician. Do you ever learn a really good trick then with layman say, this is something new I've been working on, or this is a new one I haven't showed many people yet. Some very passive statement that doesn't explicitly say, hey, I made this up, but almost implies it to a layman that this is your own creation. See why I did the disclaimer at the top. I would never lie to another performer and say I made something up. But with laymen, it doesn't matter nearly as much to them, if at all. Do you ever

try this? I respect your opinion if you completely disagree with this approach so he's just like lying that he invented the trick well i think he invented the trick okay but he doesn't want to tell them that he invented a trick he's lying and saying like he's worried about them accusing him of lying i see okay because he says this is a new one i haven't showed many people yet or this is something new i've been working on right he's having such weird problems he's saying he's saying that that yeah he's saying that he lies to them and says that it's a new one when it's not basically i mean that's like a comedy thing too and stand up you know i mean this happened the other day

uh you know when it didn't actually happen the other day it happened you know but it's like for i don't really but comedians do that definitely i don't know i don't think it really matters and i don't think anybody really cares yeah just like do whatever you want to do i think well kent says neither of these statements claim that you invented it only that it's new to your repertoire. Now, if someone misinterprets what you said to them, then that's all part of the misdirection. So that's kind of nice. This is just a lie, and then it doesn't matter. I think I kind of agree.

It's just lies. Yeah, I think I kind of agree. Who cares? I kind of agree like who cares that's this is like a little innocent little thing to say like hey this is something that I just can't you know started doing the other day or whatever it just sort of adds to the it's all bullshit yeah everything you're doing is bullshit so it reminded me a lot about pre like 90s wrestling where it was like the good old days yes it reminded me of when they still had to pretend it was real you know what i mean and then it was like i mean wrestlers i don't think ever cared if people thought they were lying because that's what they do they lie

and that's what it feels like magicians do it just feels like their job is to lie yeah they are lying they're being dishonest they're pretending that it's magic and they're not like yeah they're pretending it's like a real like serious lie it's not like you know it doesn't make them bad but they are lying yeah they're pretending something is is like magic when it's not it's a liar's job it's great if you're a liar and you get job you you've reached your pinnacle if you're a magician like that's the highest level that a liar can aspire to uh oh i don't know maybe president of the united states yeah i went more specific i think going specific was the right move here's a question how do i

respond to layman sometimes after doing a card trick that requires a force once the card is revealed the spectator feels the trick impossible and is quite impressed however when they get to the how did you do that phase i'm always asked what if i picked a different card would it still have worked i never know how to respond to things like that what do you guys usually say yes just say yes i was about to answer that but yeah you know how these guys what they mean is they they want some line like oh doesn't the want the fence to fill to no i don't think this guy's a victorian guy is the same guy? They all are, Stephan.

They fucking all are, man. Some of them are sexy magicians. All of them talk all fucking stupid. No, actually, that's not true. There is people who are known as cool magicians. Oh, yeah, David Blaine. And they're just like, whatever, man. Did you fucking think it's

fucking this card or that card, brother? You know, that was Hulk Hogan, I think. Yeah, brother. Hey, brother. This is Jim McDonald. And this is a very sweet answer. How do you respond to layman with respect and with genuine warmth? Oh, you mean the question?

What if I picked a different card? Would it still have worked? The answer is yes, absolutely. And move on to your next effect. Thank you. Like, we know that. And we're not, well, Brian's a magician, but Chris and I are not magicians. That's, yeah, but we're just laymen.

We're laymen. Yeah. Doug, you're a total layman. This guy says, wouldn't it be better to say yes, absolutely, or I don't know? So he's asking between yes, absolutely, or I don't know. Saying I don't know would be so, just like completely rude. I don't know. Fuck, I don't know saying i don't know would be so just like completely rude oh i don't know i'm not sure what no one's ever asked me that before what i don't think it would have worked oh i have no idea oh it's all fake it's all that would be that would be a good character the stupid magician who like doesn't know how he's like what oh my god he's like

shocked by his own tricks yeah he's trying to find the rabbit. He's trying to look around the room. Where'd the fucking rabbit go? What if I picked a different card? And the guy's like, oh. I have no fucking clue, actually. The answer would depend on your character and persona. What works for you? My answer would be yes your character and persona what works for you

my answer will be yes absolutely remember the line from ghostbusters if somebody asks if you are a god the answer is yes so ah ghostbusters yeah some ghostbusters information next guy says lie to them in bold letters um and then the last guy says can't emphasize this enough magicians have a free pass on this as long as it isn't hurting anyone take advantage of it and lose the guilt yes that's exactly what i'm saying yeah you're in a liar's game that's exactly what we were saying before yeah take advantage of it you're not hurting anyone they kind of understand there's this understanding that there's lying happening you know the suspension of disbelief or whatever so it's all just everyone's kind of playing along right yeah well let's go to amazon and look at

have you guys ever had a magic kit no uh i feel like maybe i had like like maybe they're like stocking stuffers or something i was like oh yeah you get like little like single like trick things or or you get them in like um like christmas crackers you know you like pull apart there'd be sometimes there'd be little magic trick things in there but that's about it yeah i never used them i think maybe i would yeah same thing possibly got it in a stocking stuff but never never like wanted it and or used it right i mean i i think when i was a kid i would have liked to have gotten one but then like my dad i would always ask for them and my parents would be like they're stupid that's just it's mostly a book that's good parents good parents

people are gonna get mad at me i'm sorry i'm not no i'm not listen i I think magic is kind of cool. I have a friend who's a magician and he's cool and he's good. And he's, you know, he's also very funny. I think that's important. If you want to be a good magician is you have to. Who's that, Chris? Is it someone that I know? That's Wes.

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. That's, that's what I thought. He's, he's very funny and like very good at magic. Very good at magic. And if you're like, you know, it's, it's very fun. I, Hey, I went and saw, I went and saw Sieg went and saw sigfried and roy they do magic right well not anymore one of them got

ate by the tiger i saw that like i saw the tiger i wasn't at the show that it happened but yeah like i i i thought it was cool i think it's cool to watch magic i really do like i'm interested by it do you think that people at the show where he got eaten by the tiger at first they were like yeah this is such a fucking cool this trick is honestly incredible yeah when he's just getting screaming in pain yeah it happens at wrestling all the time if somebody like gets really hurt i mean even i'm sure you know for the first like hour after owen hart died people were in the audience was like that was a work he's yeah yeah totally totally yeah um this is for 50 amazing magic tricks from marvin's magic store um he has 50 i'm gonna show you guys a picture of the

set so you can see it i'm gonna tell you how much it costs here i so this is the magic set it looks as cheap as possible yeah this looks like a cheapie there's like some rubber bands in there a couple of rubber is that a laser pointer what is this two or three decks of plague like cards it's the it's the shitty cards that have like that almost like waxy sheen to them you know what i mean oh yeah mostly cards like you could i wonder if they count the cards as one piece oh they probably do yeah each card is one oh my god that's so funny so how many how how much is it this one is 60 dollars um that's almost a dollar per piece that's pretty good but i yeah i found some bad reviews uh this one is is titled marvin's greatest trick was convincing me convincing me to buy this awful garbage it's almost as if someone designed this kit to make magic tricks more difficult to learn chintzy cards boring instructions and an all-around

confusing experience save your money and search youtube if you want to learn parlor boring instructions what is that i know he wanted the instructions to be more exciting well they didn't have any pictures i'm guessing they were only in oh maybe it's only words but but this guy listen these have this this kid has very good reviews overall so i'm wondering if this guy maybe might be adult like he just couldn't figure out how to do the damn tricks and then he's just like well this thing sucks you know i do think a lot of the good reviews are parents that bought it for their kid yeah and their kid probably didn't want to say this this thing sucks that you bought me you know what i mean it's like it's i think as in terms of gifts it's probably on the less annoying end of the spectrum because like it's

not like loud or anything really right and it's like it does force your kid to like sort of be quiet and like concentrate and practice this stuff you know they like it. I watch their show all the time when they come out. My daughter used to make plays. And you get out there and she'd be like, oh, we've got to start over. Hold on. And I'm like, you shouldn't invite an audience until you have it all the way down.

Because it makes the plays more... It's harder to watch. Of course. Takes you out of it. of it yeah out of it when you gotta start over i guess that that would happen if you gave a kid a magic kit too is like they would be like practicing the trick on you and it wouldn't work a lot of the time and they'd be like oh let me go again you know and yeah and yet this one has good reviews that's what i'm saying i think this might be a good kit i really think it might be a good kit well jeff man says uh don't buy this piece of junk the box supplies

instructions for just five tricks to get the instructions for the rest of the 50 promise tricks you will need to install an application on your cell phone okay so this guy this old guy can't figure out how to fucking work the iphone store, and now he's giving a bad review. Again, I still see nothing to indicate that this is a bad set. And then to use the application, you'll need to give access to your camera to nobody knows whom. Oh, shit. Yeah.

Then all of a sudden, the guys at the Magic Castle are fucking watching you in the bathroom. They will take pictures of you and use them for nobody knows what purpose. Oh, what do you mean? Jack and to him. Either Jack and or, like you said, the guys at the Magic Castle are like goofing on it.

They're like, we have this access to all these cameras of guys we sold uh yeah they're just having a laugh at your expense and yeah they're yeah they're basically using it to denigrate you and to make you know yeah they're all making fun of you totally there's nothing you can do about it jeff he goes i he goes i immediately returned the set shame on marvin burglass who agreed to take part in this dubious affair oh he marvin must be like a famous magician or something i do think so yeah shame on him shame on marvin for somebody as respected as marvin burglass to put his name behind something like this.

It's sort of a statement on how far capitalism has gone. If they can get to someone like Marvin Burglass. Graham Gibson says, what a joke. I bought this thinking these would be the 50 greatest card tricks like it says on the outer

tin. Oh, that's your fault. Yeah. Come on. They all say that. You can't be like, what the hell? Like, I thought this was going to, you know, I thought this was going to be the, you know, come on. Everything's called that.

I thought this was going to taste better because it says it tastes really good on the front of the box. Yeah. Even though the packaging is different, it actually says it's, it's the same great taste that you've come to expect, you yes packaging yeah so it was different but it said it was the same because i think a lot of the times and this is not about magic but going to a grocery store and you see there's an item that let's say you buy all the time and they've changed the packaging in your head you're like well they changed the packaging they probably changed the actual food itself yeah but i agree graham gibson says what a joke i bought this and he says i bought

this thinking these would be the 50 greatest card tricks like it says on the outer 10 instead what i got was a bunch of ridiculously unbelievable tricks that are for a fifth grader this is a joke do not buy okay so what does it say on the age oh take a look like does it is it maybe meant for a fifth grade well i think a lot of times i feel like magic kits i i consider those to be for children a lot of like a lot of children it doesn't have an age on it let me look it up though i think it is it does tend to be for children right because if you're me look it up though i think it is it does tend to be for children right because if you're like starting out in like i think there would be a different way to start out in magic if you were a you know 45 year old man looking to get into the industry

in a serious way yeah i don't think they think that you know what i'm saying like i don't think they think eight years and up. Okay. Yeah. Oh, let me give you the price. I messed the price up. I said it was 60. It's 1799.

Oh, it's not even. So that's what I'm saying. That's why it has a good reviews. It is good for what it, you know? Yeah, of course. But also it's like, you can't expect something incredible for that price. $17 is a nice little thing that you can get you listen you don't have a lot of money money's really tight and your kids like a young kid is showing interest in magic and you get that kit for them and all of a sudden they're having so

much fun doing magic tricks for you it's bringing you together as a family i mean yeah nothing wrong with this i think i am pro this magic kit yeah this is a good kit chris i think it's ridiculously unbelievable the tricks are for a fifth grader so yeah they are one star yeah we're in agreement they are we agree it seems like if you're an adult there so for adults i think you go to the magic shop and you start to work your way up until the guy trusts you. And then you can go back again in a back room sort of thing and buy a trick for like $1,000 or something like that. That is like a really impressive trick. But they want to make sure they're not selling them to just fucking anybody that walks in the place you know

like what do you say a thousand dollar trick you mean like one that like a big extensive trick like a box to like cut a woman in half or whatever like that type of one of those big cupboards or whatever yeah all that kind of thing you know or even like it doesn't have to even be like a big it they could just because a lot of them say that they come on a pdf so it's literally you're just getting like here's how the trick is done don't show anybody it's against the magician's code oh i see so you're not talking about them the actual equipment even you're talking about like so why do they have to take you into the back room so it's so funny it's so funny for them to be all mysterious about it and be like,

these are like unexplained mysterious powers or whatever. And then it's like, it's not, it's not a PDF. Can't they just, you can't, you just give me your email address. Why do you have to go into a back room?

Well, you have Adobe acrobat. You have to, you have to open it. That's. Oh, well, yeah,

you might be able to open it with like a different, you can open with preview but if you want to edit it which you wouldn't even need to edit you're just going to be reading it so you don't but if you want to add your own spin to it maybe you'd want acrobat that would be you can get the trial period for acrobat you know you'd have to buy a printer that they'll do they sell nowadays are i mean they're expensive and they you have to get like the ink subscription a lot of the time too it's totally bullshit you're not gonna want you're you're not gonna want to get a printer because you shouldn't be printing it out unless you're prepared to burn it right you don't want someone to yeah i see if someone if you dropped it

and someone just a layman found it then lord knows what could happen let's say a layman's digging through your trash and i'm sure that listen that doesn't happen to you or i but we're not magicians i'm sure magicians have layman digging outside the trash constantly looking out for printed out magic tricks that they can steal yeah that's been one of the downfalls of magic over the years hey get out of here, you layman. You don't get shooing him away with a broom or whatever. I also had a, I'll give you guys this. You'll like this picture.

It's another thing from Amazon. It is a fake thumb. It does not look real. a fake thumb ah it does not look real and it's got the classic amazon thing of like the the brand name is like a brand that doesn't exist yeah i know fake made oh it's so good oh everyone for that is is kufandi kufandi is always so good this is this, would not fool anybody. Well, maybe if they're really far away. Yeah. But yeah, like you're standing on stage, like making your thumb. Yeah.

If you were doing it on stage and like a stadium and there was like a good amount of distance between you and the audience, you could possibly. Is the idea for this one. It's not to be like, I cut my thumb off. Is it? It's to, it's to be like, to be like hiding stuff in the thumb maybe? Maybe. I couldn't figure it out.

It's $8.99, and it doesn't have age on this one. But it says package includes six thumb tips, six handkerchiefs, two sizes for your option, three pairs. You got three pairs of thumbs. So you're going to have two for your thumb size. And then it is ages under 12. So keep away from ages under 12. Place in hot water to reshape if needed. So let's take a look at some reviews of this magic not it's 3.9 that's not

great that's not oh i know it doesn't and it and again it does it does it looks so incredibly fake and obviously fake yeah yes and it also is 8.99 and again that's the thing i learned you know we've learned that through this show right is that like people will never hesitate to buy the cheapest version of something it's cost like five cents to make for sure it's a it's a little handkerchief and a fake plastic thumb like yeah but it's no they'll never hesitate they'll be like i'll buy the one that's 8.99 and then they get it and they're like what a piece piece of shit. It's like, dude. You got to get the second cheapest.

I always go most expensive because if you want the best one, you buy the most expensive one. That's true, Brian. I get the second cheapest one always. I got my first smartphone that way and it wasn't an iPhone. I walked in to T-Mobile and they were like, what kind of phone do you want?

And I was like, I want the most expensive one. Which one was it? What was the brand? It was like a Samsung or something, maybe. They said this is the best, most expensive phone, and sold it to me.

And then I learned later that you shouldn't go into a place and ask for the most expensive thing. They're happy to do that. Sorry. Hang on one second. When did you learn that? 10 years ago.

At the age of what? Probably my 30s. In your 30s, you learned that you should not go into a store and say, I would like the most expensive one? Yeah. Come on, man. Some people told me. Some people were like, they'll rip you off and it's like oh yeah yeah i think you could go in and be like what's the best one and then for my needs or

whatever right and then they'll probably give you a few options i'll be honest though let can we be honest stefan i think it it doesn't matter what this guy says he walks in i think they smell it on him it's an absolute mark on the street you know every all the salesmen are just like fucking just just absolutely uh attacking him i saw it as a shortcut at the time yeah what do you mean a shortcut shortcut faster and also he did well he was tired of having you know enough money and all money yeah i didn't have to do research i was a cable guy at the time my wife had we were both working jobs and stuff like that it's just like i'm gonna sit around here being you know wow with the different but the research oftentimes is just like you i mean 10 years ago maybe it was a little harder but it's oftentimes is just like you, I mean, 10 years ago, maybe it was a little harder,

but it's oftentimes you just Google like best phones, 2023. And then, I mean, now you have to sort through all the AI generated shit, but like, um, you know,

and then you just pick like the best one from the list or it'll be like, Hey, here's, here's like the best phone. That's not like super expensive, you know? But you, your whole thing was like,

like what was, you were like speed running, buying a phone. because i just brian would google it too but he would google most expensive phone i just thought that i mean i still think and i haven't broken this habit or anything but the most expensive one is the best one and in some instances i think you're right that's true sometimes but it's not always true it's definitely not always true well it wasn't have you ever have you ever gone um to one of those restaurants where they serve you steak and it's like wrapped in gold foil no i would though so fucking so there's also such a thing as like superfluous stuff right so it's

like there's there's certain things where it's like yeah it might be the best one but there's also such a thing as like superfluous stuff, right? So it's like there's certain things where it's like, yeah, it might be the best one, but there's a lot of the functionality or whatever that is unnecessary to you as a user. And so you're overpaying for it. True. And that phone sucked. I didn't like the phone. How long did you have the phone for? For like two years.

Okay. And then I went and got an iphone and then i've just been on iphone okay you know i'm not gonna switch that so super super says uh one star so fake a very fake magic finger even you can obviously tell you're wearing it on your hand not even a five you should be able to tell you want to be tricked is this guy going into magic being like i want to fucking this is this reminds me of like lucid dreamers or whatever sort of where they're like i want to believe this is actually happening but i want to do magic that's so good that i fucking trick myself a magician that tricks himself is even better yeah the dumb guy the guy who's so good at magic that he fucking

fools himself and he's like holy shit imagine saying shit what happened to my thumb he's standing on stage he's like panicking the trick is ruined not even a five-year-old could be fooled very poor so i think a five-year-old could easily yeah five-year-old could be fooled you go like this and do this or whatever you can fool a five-year-old by doing the fake tennis ball throw you do to dogs yeah that's yeah that's true don't oscar says do not buy it anyone can see that it's fake only magic was to see my money disappear uh that seems like that's how many times that is used in the reviews i think that is the most common phrase

in all of these and they're so proud that they've like oh on it up on their own one feels this incredible pride it does show that you you sort of understand magic and magicians will see them be like all right yeah this guy got duped but clearly they know magic and he's got a little bit of that humor funny sometimes you need as a magician unless you're like a serious magician you know well here we are we're at our part here uh this is from you user death of cake and he says why is chris angel generally regarded as a horrible magician by magician and as a wonderful magician by layman so okay so i mean i'm gonna take a stab at it and say that it's because he went so mainstream.

So he had the show and he got so popular that, of course, everybody knows him. I don't think lay people like him, though. That's one part I would disagree with. I think he doesn't have a lot of respect from the general public. I think he's sort of like the kind of guy you would make fun of. I mean, it's it's very funny to have a tv show where you're doing magic because like you can just do so much stuff with like cameras and like oh and he did and he did yeah it wasn't it was what i specifically remember he's like drive he's supposed to like drive into a wall and disappear or something and if you watch the trick there's just like a gap in the wall that

he drives through and that's and that's such bullshit because that's the thing you can actually do because i know somebody i know like a friend of mine named yeah named turd who works for man cow who actually drove into a wall and he was pretty hurt but he was okay i could play you i could play you the the clip of it and he's still alive now. He's still alive to this day. Oh, really? He has a frozen yogurt shop, maybe. And was that a trick he was doing? That wasn't a trick.

That was just a radio stunt that he was doing. Yeah. He's driving his car into the side of a factory. Can I see this? Can I? I do actually want to see it. There's no video. There's no video.

But Man Cow was watching it live, and he was describing it as it was happening. Yeah, that was cool. Well, this guy goes, I was just thinking about it. I personally think he's a terrible, not only on his show, but in real life, just a shitty type of person from personal experience and from the experiences of various people I know who have met him. But how is it that the masses love him so much why is the shittiness not obvious to the layman so um elias takes a stab at it and he goes uh we went to the same high school i love guys like this this is like my favorite opening sentence for anything at all about a famous person we went to the same high school and I can tell you that as a person,

he's always been self-centered jerk. I think magicians generally, I think magicians generally resent how absurdly over the top he is as if magicians didn't already have a problem with taking themselves too seriously. It's like corn does magic, which that's cool. That's the cool thing. That's what is that. Did you reading this for the show? Did that sentence make you want to become a magician, Brian? Yeah, I know that he did magic with Korn, which I think is that coolest magic thing you can do. I think this person's using it as an insult, though. No, I don't get why.

I mean, it's a cool idea. I saw his first big break when he did a show at the WWF Theater in Times Square. It was terrible. One or two cool illusions like the robot that comes alive after it's built. But the finale was him floating and obviously not random person from the audience. And he had to make it so dark that I literally couldn't see the performance from 20 feet away. The lights came back up and only those people five feet away were clapping. Everyone else just looked confused. He was continually told by the magic community here that he wasn't cut out for it.

They're another profession. He certainly made a good living at it, but I'm not sure that that should be a measure of success for an art form. Now, I love the idea number one that chris angel went to a high school with the magic community with a magic yeah they're talking about like hogwarts what are they talking i don't know i couldn't i don't i guess like i don't know this guy seems to he could be lying i mean i went to high school with the guy is a classic lie yeah it's like the best lie sentence you can do well it's also funny because

like to be like i went to high school with him and he's the he's the same now as he was back then it's like so the personality that you like know from watching him on tv and it's like an obvious lie where you're like guess what he was like that i know this is hard to believe he was like that when he was younger also if you can believe that you know yeah well the klaus says layman see chris angel and think magic it's so impressive but during the first few seasons a mind freak which is the best name for a thing he was using a lot of camera tricks editing tricks confederates and stooges it's easy to fly above a crowd at the camera fame crops out the crane and everyone in the crowd is paid to look amazed and

pretend well yeah that i mean listen can you can you pull up on YouTube right now? Chris Angel Shaq. Because there is this is the one I always remember where he levitates. Chris, that's something you would love to see on GeoGuessr. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's true. But watch this. Play the audio. But this, watch this. Play the audio. So right now, a bunch of people are lifting up Shaquille O'Neal. He's not the largest person ever also, by the way.

I guess they're saying maybe the largest person to be levitated. So there he is. He's floating. He's really floating. He's up in the sky. Crazy. What? What. What? What?

How does he do this? That's nuts. So Shag is like floating like a flame of flame. I can't believe it. And Shag is floating like over houses. Can we see the comments on this too because i do this is his official channel yeah such a sad day really beautiful way to send them off though oh that's a joke yeah i'm wondering if there are any any comments where people believe it but i do feel like everyone's acknowledging how fucking stupid

it is right yeah that's what that's what's so bizarre about this that i found about chris angel is so i guess this is probably to me why he's hated by the magic community because he's not trying to even pass it off as being do you know what i mean like no there's no one is being fooled by that nobody in the world is being fooled because if you if you see that and you believe it that like changes your life yeah of course you're like oh my god this guy has powers like you guys you guys how you have to go watch it just put in chris angel shack and it's the first video that comes up and you have to watch this video of him levitate he's literally floating over floating over top of two-story houses yeah nobody believes it in

the comments yeah of course how could you how like like stephen said if you believed it you would have to like it would it would then dictate all of the choices in your life you would have to stop doing what you're doing and you'd immediately start following chris angel and like a god of yes yeah um brian can i i'm gonna post this in the chat here but this is um so well before you click it um his restaurant is called cabel c-a-b-l-o i remember that you guys know what that stands for no uh chris angels breakfast lunch and pizza well pizza i guess they only do pizza at dinner i guess java freak b.e.s java so if you go to the menu i don't know and if you can bring this up and we can look at the menu is one of the funniest things i have ever seen in my life because

he tries to make it like funny and like about magic and stuff so the the this is my right right off the bat it says you're getting sleepy and sleepy is like sort of half crossed out and then underneath it it says you're getting appetizers it's not even a pun of on you're getting sleepy you're getting appetizers that's yeah chicken poppers is good just like this is crazy oh he must have a star in a rock walk of fame he does salads for the stars for the stars yeah and then b-sides which again is like that's like a music thing yeah and sandwiches raps and rock and roll r-a-p-s and then the the kids meal section is called chris's bag of tricks and it's like an anime chris angel for some reason oh cool this guy um famous burgers and this i mean this is not a

so the pizza one is not that has nothing to do with chris you want a pizza me in quotes you want a pizza me don't be hangry eat an entree yeah it Yeah. It's really, it's not desserts to death. So death is like a thing. It does feel like he knows his audience. Do you know what I mean? Like they did some market research. Oh, like stupid people? Yeah.

Right. The people who are like fascinated by Chris Angel, who are real fans of his and were like, oh my God. Yeah. I will say they have a, they have a frozen drink called the mind freeze which is great the drink section is called get your drinks on but if you scroll down the alcoholic section is don't wine drink beer oh but it has wine in there as well don't wine implies that they wouldn't i know it's a it's like a pun obviously but it says uh i'm looking at his gourmet italian ices and the little thing under it says manufactured in chris's mind foods

plant in las vegas foods you mean books um if you scroll down to the bottom there's a quote i would love for you to read family is everything it's how i discovered this amazing place in the incredible moapa valley family community i'm so honored to share with you the incredible talents of my family and friends by providing a wonderful dynamic selection of the highest quality foods, desserts, and spirits for you and your family's enjoyment. We look forward to dining with you at Cal. It's pronounced cab. Okay.

Yeah. I would have just called it cab lip, but know that's my this is uh i'm gonna i mean listen i i bet it does pretty well right i would go i would exactly like i would like just like on this sort of like bizarre kind of you know i think it actually doesn't do that well because it's like pretty far outside of vegas i believe that and the reviews are not i see because i was gonna say vegas has a lot of tourists and i was thinking if you're going on you know a trip it would be kind of a funny place to go you know yeah uh it's it's not let me let me look up exactly where it is it's like quite far outside las vegas well i actually

have a uh few reviews of the chris angel live show okay in las vegas okay so that's what he does now he does a live show in las vegas he's got an hour it's an hour drive outside so you'd be driving an hour to go to chris angel's restaurant no i mean i i would do it but i mean i think i think yeah but he's not they're not paying the bills from ironic yeah no it's like when i wanted to go to the shonies that was owned by scott steiner and found out it was like 45 minutes out of atlanta or whatever and i was like yeah that far to go to a showings yeah i would have gone yeah big papa pump you kidding me holler hear me man uh s wilson says save your money paid extra,

almost $400 for front row seats. That's your fault. Well, I will say if there is one show where it is worth getting those front row seats, it would be a magic show. Yeah. Yeah.

Truly, you know, where it would be like worth that money to get up close. It would be magic. And you can try, because I know all I do when I see magic is is like try to figure out how they're doing it you know and if you're in the front row you can be a real investor totally totally i'm gonna show up sitting in the front row with binoculars yeah bring some binocular i wonder if they'd boot you if you brought some binoculars they don't want you looking that close they make you put the

binoculars in like the the dave chappelle like they're called yonder bags and they also have them at the comedy mothership joe rogan oh i can't go there now yeah i had i need my phone i went to look at the aurora borealis and looked at my phone the whole time. But what if you're watching fucking Tony? What's that? Fucking Kill Tony guy? Tony. Yeah.

Well, my wife was like, shitty comic. And then you'd want to be totally focused on his jokes. When we were coming back from Alaska, there was a woman in front of us that watched Kill Tony on on her phone the entire time and my wife was like what's kill tony and i was like there's no way you'd like it just don't even worry about it kill tony is like can be can be funny i think maybe because it's like the live version of it or whatever but that guy who hosts it tony hinchcliffe that's his name oh i i always say i've never ever in my life seen a comedian do so badly in a and like he was at the rio theater at like the dirty show big jay okerson was on a bunch of and tony hinchcliffe just came up and just got zero laughs like not a single laugh and he was just doing all this like real edgelord shit.

And anyways, maybe he's good. Who knows? But I'll tell you on that evening, he was the worst standup I've ever seen. Call it a gut felt. When you do something like that, you go out there, you do a gut felt. Nobody responds. The wife and I were extremely excited to see such an icon of the industry. The show started off slow with a bunch of fire smoke loud effect musics and a few women walking around in bikinis now that doesn't seem slow to me it

seems like there was a pretty crazy that seems pretty yeah that seems right up your alley bry yeah this well the show started off slow and he's talking about fire smoke loud effects and women in bikinis this guy's a babes well they were probably babes yeah but the this this person to sound is is a is like a big magic person because that's slow to a magic you know what i mean that's all like oh all the fire like that's bullshit get to the fucking tricks you know the real shit. Chris finally arrived and did a few tricks with birds, a cell phone and a bottle and a few levitation with obvious cables. About the time we thought the show was gearing up, Chris started talking about his kid beating cancer and how to donate. There was confetti falling down, a ladder walk trick, and the show was over. One tenth of what

was expected. my wife and i were extremely disappointed with this so-called show possibly the worst we've ever seen unless you're easily impressed save your money and find something else to do chris has gotten way too comfortable with the success and has forgotten he's an entertainment forgot the little people yeah it sounds like it sounds like he made this guy's money disappear yeah fucking guys money has all it disappeared this performer chris angel seemed really out of it and not into the show and very preoccupied and then at the end of the show he had the audacity to ask for money for his sick child who is as sick with cancer that seems to be a big complaint among the bad reviews because there's this other

one too uh from chris he gives it one star and goes there's nothing magical about dead children whilst i understand that chris has a personal connection to the issue of childhood cancer i feel that he should keep that message personal and away from his residency at play oh my god yeah we don't need to be hearing about that there's nothing magical about dead children did he actually start off with that first sentence there's nothing why he's right but that's like yeah okay so so he's saying that these children from are dying from cancer and that ain't magic tell me about it late tis do you think do you think i mean this this seems like a missed opportunity if not but you have to imagine chris angel would be like now you guys know i love magic but what i'm really here for is we need to work together and try and make childhood cancer

disappear oh yeah had to have said it right. Chris McNamara would hate it. The guy that's doing this review. It's like, let's not talk about that. Okay. He says, I feel that he should keep that message personal.

Like it's so funny. Like two political jokes. Childhood cancer. Yeah. Like getting mad about that is so funny like straight up like like a basketball player like just saying like you know i'm just been struggling a little bit lately because my son is dying of cancer and they're like shut up and dribble you know stick to sports the show itself was nothing we haven't seen before mostly filler no killer floating on a cable for 10 minutes grows

old quickly that is a long time to do the float trick i'm gonna agree with chris there uh phone in a bottle trick escaping from a there going doves up the sleeve really uh this guy i love yeah this is this magician magic guys are awesome yeah this guy rules he says uh he goes day one at magic school kind of stuff time to call it a day mr angel time to retire yeah yeah go take care of your kid yeah it sounds like you got a lot of responsibilities with your family that's so funny to get mad like the one thing to get mad about oh man just leave that out of your review like if you're feeling like angry or whatever just leave it out you at least recognize that the general public is not going to be on your side

no i couldn't believe you know what it reminds me of chris the mcu episode where they were saying that spider-man that tom holland he's like he says he wants to start a family but oh yeah he's a little young to be thinking about that right now we need our spider-man they were saying he said he wants to start a family but he's too young for that and he should make more spider-man he needs to make more spider-man chris angel invites you to pay to watch him kiss most of the women on stage throw dubs out of his oversized gown moan a production that the markers are in the wrong place and he couldn't find the planet actors to join him in a quick enough manner he tried lighting something three

times in his hand it didn't work so he threw it the cancer talk and posting focusing on three children's names without explaining who they were felt off man these people are mean. To me, it just felt off. Yeah, it just was like, I don't know. I have seen Copperfield, and while Copperfield doesn't have the noise, the lighting, or the energy of the crowd, he's better. Surprise how poor this was, and yet we got told it was filming for TV. Possibly time to reinvent this show without the sofa seen as that was just insulting to the crowd's intelligence so that was obviously a trick way to add something

yeah um so before we get done i i promised this on the cable news guys episode because i was um you know i was kind of prepping this and this is from the magic forum which you guys might want to check out the magic forum it is uh cool i know i'm not i won't i'm not gonna this is a question for those who perform gospel magic i i used to perform gospel magic i stopped i'm still a a Christian and I still perform magic, but something doesn't feel right about me using the art of illusion, which is inherently deceptive, to communicate a spiritual claim I believe to be true. How have you who perform gospel magic resolved this apparent contradiction to yourself? I'm not asking the question as a way of criticizing what

you're doing. I'm just curious. Obviously, no gospel magician would ever claim his or her tricks are real, but surely some of the more skeptical folks in your audience might wonder things like, if you're not really restoring the rope, but instead you're just doing a trick, then why should I ever believe your claim that God can restore life? Indeed, how can I trust that Christians, or worse, God himself, won't trick me? Again, I offer the question as both food for thought and because I'm genuinely curious how others have resolved this potential issue. Now, Chris, was Brad Stein a magician at one point, or am I misremembering? Yeah, he was. He definitely was was and i know a lot of christian

magicians because i watched them on hawk watch all the time i have a question for brian though and that is did you think that because that sentence went on for so long that i was not going to bring up the fact that you said compunicate at the beginning compunicate i believe you did if club heads let me know i might've misheard it. He's got that, you know, it could be a miss here, but I almost made it through the entire episode. Actually.

I heard punicate. He's had it. And he's had a couple of really rough. Yeah. Recently, Bill Murphy. He called Bill Murray, Bill.

Don't you have his coin? No, no, I should. That was a, wasn't there a chive coin with bill murphy oh there's a million of them that's that's how he came up we were yeah we were looking at the chive stuff and and he called him william murphy yeah yeah and i think murray is short for murphy no i missed up

it was really bizarre yeah it's the same thing with matt damon like i said matt diamond one accident and now every once in a while on twitter somebody will be like they should star matt diamond the best part about it is that the episode hasn't come out yet so like it hasn't started yet stephan but like when this one comes out it it's already yeah you know and he did he did a lot of like he he had a really horrible one on the christmas uh episode to start as well. He really embarrassed himself. So he could use a good episode with not many flubs.

And also, these people are wild, man. These magicians who are like, can I still do magic if I'm religious? Am I basically pretending to fool like is they're worried that they're like playing god kind of or like oh and i think they're worried about the lying part yeah of doing magic so it's kind of like because it's you know not biblical or whatever to lie but oh hang on a second this is my new character the atheist guy oh they have a problem with lying and yet their whole bible does so many times in its in its entirety and everything about it is one that's a good point atheist chris thanks great thoughts jamie i agree 100 i've never done a straight gospel magic show but if i ever do

magic for any faith-based organization church or otherwise i always give a disclaimer thanks ladies and gentlemen this is not magic this i am not jesus this is not i'm not gonna do real magic this is all gonna be fake all the people are like oh thank goodness oh thank goodness they're all so worried yeah oh i thought he was gonna he was a wizard at least he's not a wizard yeah they were right yeah honestly saying that probably saves your own life yeah because if you end up if you end up just doing the magic you know religious people may well they know what would kill you well he did hear harris the third say during his live show that what i do is taking a lot of hard work and study so don't give the

devil the credit for my hard work that's probably not vermatum um veratum. Okay. Vermatum. Vermatum. Brother, what happened at the end? Just like, you know, just running a perfect race. Yeah. And then on the final lap. It's like us playing Rocket League yesterday. Yeah. Straight away.

Just Brian just absolutely falling over himself, tripping, like breaking his leg, falling on his face. I always really liked that because it said, said hey this is me doing the tricks and it's taking a lot of work on my part and there's nothing supernatural going on here i guess you were reading a quote there though right so you could have you could have said that's what it says on he does that sometimes yeah yeah he lies and he says like oh that's what it said on the thing but it's's like, I'll go look afterwards. And it never did. The church originally frowned upon many forms of entertainment and a pack of cards used to be considered the devil's playthings. I guess there are plenty of contradictions in this world of ours. Some say the stories of the Bible are allegorical.

Others believe them. Elyse them. Well, That's a place at least, I guess. I think what he's doing, he does this sometimes too. When he does like some flubs, he'll just start laying flubs out. You'll carve.

You're like, nobody knows which one to even post. I'm going to go ahead. I'm going to go ahead. And I'm going to say, we're going to make the call. We're going to go with vermate. I was going to say, that was gonna say that's the one that's the one that we're gonna we're gonna go with this vermatum vermatum is the one that's gonna get posted on this one this

fucking january 9th and i haven't seen the word for vermatum yet and then it's just i'm gonna wake up just put it in your calendar this is i'm gonna get fucking all these vermatum messages yeah totally brian yeah brian fucking called him william murphy and he said that vermatum on september fish yeah let's get one more here getting the applause going chris you're a comedian stephanie oh yeah yeah i've i've done some actually yeah i don't i don't talk about that a lot i don't like to bring it up but yes i used to tread the boards of stand of the stand-up stage well let's let's get some advice here uh about getting the applause going i'm looking for ways either verbal or using body language to tell the audience that

it's time to applause after an effect is over oh boy this is a please now not not to not to not to like pick on brian here did it say applause or applaud it does say applause okay okay yeah they probably hey stephan it probably doesn't but he's smart enough now at least to respond quickly gave him an out yeah yeah he's smart he's smart he's uh time to applause i put it up on the screen okay fair enough i'm gonna this is gonna be the image i use for the fucking episode i've never really thought about this before but what i do is smile raise both my outward hands towards the audience and give a short bow usually that's all it takes to get some applause going any tips or suggestions you could give would be appreciated

now so this is i have one do something that impresses them yeah do something that elicits a response a positive response i've been asking that one anytime i've done any performances like how do i get them to clap like listen i can there's actual trick like there really is tricks if you're performing to get people to clap like you just like you start talking really really passionately about something and you ramp it up so you like start off at one level then you get more and more heated about it and then you let it plateau at a level and you sort of like hit a big line at the end of it and then let it sit and it often like tricks an audience into applauding and people use it all the time in comedy and performing you can say the city there that you're currently in also you could say that you could say oh yeah you had a personal milestone you could say hey i

got married recently or most definitely recently like there's a lot of but they're talking about they're this person talking about at the end of a trick specifically they want you could do that you could do you could do the car trick and be like by the way i just had a kid that's a good point that is by the way uh yeah you finished the job uh 10 years sober today do not mention if your kid is sick oh oh yeah that's not yeah that's honestly it just doesn't like i like i'm one of the most passionate people compassionate people that i know but it just doesn't have a place in a magic so i don't want to hear about your fucking i don't want to hear about your damn dying kid you know it feels off to me it just felt off to me honestly feels off to me i when i'm hearing about a kid it's like i want to hear about them alive otherwise

it feels very off to me yeah if they're you know healthy kids let's talk about healthy kids on the show uh polite says jeff mcbride and tommy wonder were inspirations for me i agree with gaddy as well sladini is another good one to study i personally do not like strategies similar to the following this is for for stand-up that i've always felt this way take your time do you see this all the time or thank you to the one person who liked it and i'm like i feel that way about stand-up like where like if they don't get it and then you're like take your time you know to get the clap to happen i uh that doesn't that's a classic uh pathetic comedy move and pathetic performing move for sure is just like i'll wait uh yeah you guys will be you guys

will be laughing on the car ride home you know there's all these fucking lines it's like sometimes you do just have to accept the fact that it it it was funny uh but i mean so i guess it does come from the fact though i think for comedians that they'll tell the joke a bunch of times so like really good audiences you know who just like sort of get into the set and they're laughing at everything so they're used to getting a laugh at that and then when they don't they don't accept the fact that this audience didn't find it funny because the other ones have in the past you know i i do feel like rat other like magicians have a way more obvious place for applause than comedians i mean yeah you know we've watched greg gutfeld just bomb over and over again and we've learned now that it's because nobody in the audience knows who the fuck he is or what he's talking about

yeah and like uh uh but i feel like when you like this guy's saying he bows to get the applause so like he finishes it and then he bows i have a suggestion for something he can do. He could say, ta-da! Yeah, that's kind of old school, old school ta-da. But when the trick is completed, if the trick is impressive, the audience should applaud regardless of what you do afterwards. You can't save a bad trick, which sort of. That sort of sounds like what he's asking. Yeah.

What he's saying is if the, if it doesn't get the applause on its own, how do I get that and have it not be uncomfortable? And I would say you got to get rid of that trick or you got to figure out why it's not getting that response is how I would go about it personally. That's what a lot of them ended up. A lot of it ended up being about was like you know it's more about what you say then because you do have to kind of draw their attention away from

stuff you know what i mean so you have to really be able to talk to do to do magic so i don't know i like magic now i don't know how much i like magicians but i do like magic i think i'm gonna learn it i'm gonna spend some money on i'm gonna go to the magic shop and say what's your most expensive trick i'm so i'm so excited for this so funny that he's like oh that's a funny callback joke you know but he really is like he was like that's actually what's gonna happen yeah and his head he's thinking like i wonder what the most expensive trick is like it's probably so fucking there's just like a there's like a there's like a mummy's like casket behind brian next time you guys record brian please don't listen i don't listen i don't you we we have

independent finances obviously you're free to spend your money on whatever you want i think i what did i have to stop you from buying on the christmas uh episode a coin it was a coin of so i'll show you and you got to see these coins so i had to actually stop him he had it in his basket and he was ready to check out he was actually ready to check out. You're lucky. I mean, I didn't do it. So let's take a look at the coins at the end of the episode with Stefan. We got the rare coins. Okay.

Is it still available to buy? It's in the cart. Is it in your cart? Yeah. It was the Chris Farley legal tender for $150. What? And then I was also going to pay $1.99 for coin transit insurance. Well, you got to do that, of course.

Obviously, you get the insurance if you get the coin. But listen, can you click on the Chris Farley so you can see it? Because this is my favorite coin ever. It actually looks like a fat Grinch. He looks like a fat Grinch. And it's supposed to be Chris Farley in some movie. I don't even know which one. but yeah it's so ridiculous and brian was genuinely going to yeah republic of palau yeah it's legal tender stephan it's what if you go to the republic of uh palau then you can actually spend that that's like an island okay it looks like an it's an island near

australia i mean they do that kind of thing to like you know as part of the scam right so that they can call it legal tender you go there well how much is it how much would it be worth there like if you went to five dollars so 150 us you go to palau you bring this coin and you can get like a bill yeah how can you look can you look up uh like how much a flight to put like what is palau have have like a tourist industry like is it a like how many people they just use the u.s dollar there yeah this is just five u.s dollars but they also they also use uh the chive coins yeah you can use the chive coins though Yeah, you can use the chive coins, though. And that seems to me like,

you know, why wouldn't you? All right, we got a flight. I'm going to look January 2nd return January 9th when you're done so I can go there now and spend the money and make Chris look like a fool. Okay, so how much does a flight cost? It's it's taking to be a it's going

to be a lot because it's if it's by australia oh three thousand forty eight dollars that's round trip though although i do like to fly premium economy okay so you're how much is premium economy i'm looking i'm looking four thousand eight,815. Nearly five grand. Then you're going to pay the hundred. It's $150 for the coin. I'm looking at some of them. This is from Vancouver, of course.

$3,400 for a trip. That's 19 hours 40 minutes. All the other flights are 58 hours. It'd take a little bit of your time but yeah yeah go and spend your coin on the person i'll give you five bucks if you give me my coin back i just can't i just and like i'll be honest like i bet you it's so it happens so infrequently that like everywhere you try to spend it, it would be they'd have to

go get a manager and they'd have to contact the consulate. It'd be fun though. It'd be fun. There's only $2,500 of that one too. It's a collector's item. Wait, a mystery gold coin for $3,000? Yeah.

It's sold out. They sold all those, unfortunately. I could have got that for $3,000? Yeah. It's sold out. It's sold out. They sold all those. Unfortunately, I could have got that for $270 a month. Yeah. Yeah, that's what I've... We've discussed this before, like talking to your accountant and discussing a monthly payment to a Chive coin. Stefan, do you want to look at the shirts for just one minute before we get out of here?

Because Chris really likes the shirts too They're all old Lord of the drinks Lord of the drinks It's a Lord of the Rings logo It just says Lord of the drinks What's the Goodfellas one? Is it just Goodfellas?

Just figure that out Oh it's No it's Tommy DeVito and his agent because they went viral recently his agent is the guy on the left there and he looks like a like a weird mob guy but he kind of looks like mikey miles as well okay oh i do crafts and it's got craft craft beer okay uh we got uh oh there's the napoleon dynamite one man it's so funny to see i guess because it's napoleon because the movie came out but it's so funny to see oh no no napoleon

dynamite shirt with new next to it no no stephan it's it listen they might say that but a lot of their stuff is from that era okay these are princess bride shirts with no jokes at all right like as you wish and inconceivable which by the way if you're wearing the inconceivable shirt nobody knows what that is nobody's gonna be like oh from the movie it's just a fucking work they have so many of them now princess bride shirts holy shit this is another row of them This is another row of them. Mawage. M-A-W-A-G-E.

You're going to wear that shirt. They got a bandit. Yeah. Oh, shitter's fool. Die hard as a... No, you can't do that. It's a Christmas movie. I heard it is, but I disagree with it.

I think if you played Die Hard for Jesus he probably wouldn't have loved it this is my opinion that is the show we are going to look through the tribe website I love the tribe website you just know it we have Stefan from the Go Off Kings

and Blocked Party and thanks for doing the show Stefan yeah thank you guys for having me I'm on Blue Sky I deleted my twitter account and blocked party. Thanks for doing the show, Stephan. Thank you guys for having me. This was a lot of fun. I'm on Blue Sky. I deleted my Twitter account. Well, I reopened my Twitter account this morning and then immediately deleted it again because you have to do it every 30 days

so that you keep the name or whatever, which is so stupid. Chris isn't on Blue Sky. He won't get over there. I'm not on Blue Sky. It's nice over there, Chris. It's nice. A lot of really horny freaks oh that's true yeah you should do blue sky guys

should but all right we'll see you guys next week with weed guys oh whoa