Guys: With Bryan Quinby - Guys: Episode 50 - Jeep Guys with Adam Vilman

Episode Date: January 23, 2024

The Patrons picked it so we are doing it. This week we are looking at Jeep Guys, they have more rules than a single guy at a swinger club and I think we hit everything. Learn about the Death Wobble, t...he wave and the ducks. Also, get a few jokes for your joke arsenal Adam is https://twitter.com/damiataman on Twitter and his show is https://twitter.com/hobbyperverts There is much more Chris at twitter.com/thecjs and of course https://www.patreon.com/notevenashow And for more Guys content, streams and SHOCKTOBER: a deep dive into shock jocks you can click patreon.com/murderxbryan twitter.com/murderxbryan and twitch.tv/murderxbryan If you liked us together, search March Madness on the murder x bryan patreon, we did a whole series together about Sports Talk Radio

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to Guys, a podcast about guys. I am Brian. My co-host is Chris, the mall crawler james what's up chris oh hell yeah we're back to one that i just totally don't understand mall crawler you're a mall crawler i mean i don't know i i literally have i mean i assume again of course context clues has something to do with jeep well it's something us jeep guys say i see when when you have a jeep but you're only driving in a city you don't ever off-road oh i see so so you're supposed to off-road with it that's yes that's what the whole reason to have a jeep ah okay that's cool yeah it was i did not realize that at all that's cool that's cool that's, I did not realize that at all. That's cool. That's cool. That's exciting.
Starting point is 00:01:05 And longtime Brian and Chris Heads will know our next guest. He's from our March Madness episode and Hobby Perverts, Adam Villman. What's up, Adam? How's it going, guys? I'm glad that I did not get branded a mall crawler. No, I don't insult the guest because I'm not. He doesn't insult the guest because he's not he doesn't it's not the guest because he's a coward he just i'm not afraid so i learned a lot about jeeps um i want one now obviously i i after reading about them i was like i think i would if i bought one, I'd probably off-road sometimes. No, you wouldn't. You don't go do anything.
Starting point is 00:01:50 You walk around, don't do anything. You'd think that you'd all of a sudden get adventurous because you got a Jeep. Yeah, I'd go drive it on the dirt. I wish I lived further. I live in the center of the city, so it will take a minute to get to anything. And it's a big, like Columbus, big city area wise. But I think if I got one, I'd be out there fucking, you know, going into mud and dirt and stuff like that. Okay, so this is a new thing we do because we're becoming a more professional podcast is we sort of now brian this one's a you've never had a jeep that's safe to say you
Starting point is 00:02:30 you haven't had one before and afford one have you have you been in one like have you have you like is there any one of riding in the legendary Jeep? Yeah, so some people might know that I am a Miata guy. Wow, that's funny. I'd love to have Yana make fun of you for that. I have not heard about a Miata in some time. My dad is a Miata guy. They don't still make
Starting point is 00:03:05 miatas oh they absolutely still make the miata the miata is is one of the best selling cars in history okay well i believe that i know it had its time i just i haven't heard a lot about the new miata and i don't know that i've seen a lot of them maybe i just don't recognize them i would say you might not recognize it because it's kind of aggressive looking. Oh, I'm looking at it now. That's not the Miata that my dad needs. So it doesn't look like the one that I would know. It's not cute. But yeah, so I do have a little bit of Jeep experience. My father-in-law owns one. He's had two. He does not. He mall crawls.
Starting point is 00:03:48 he said two um he does not he mall crawls uh and uh but i have take i have done some off-roading uh before and it is a shitload of fun like it's oh oh fun dude yeah like i i would love to go off-roading it obviously looks like a really thrilling thing to do and i guess yeah if you were you have some like but isn't there there's other better ones than jeeps that you can do it with right so here's something that i've learned over this time is that jeeps for off-roading it's excellent it's just the best car you could possibly ever off-road in except for i did learn last night the uh 4x4 geo tracker yeah that's what i and there are some like japanese like uh off-roading guys that you know that don't they aren't even allowed because my brother has one or had one um and i forget what
Starting point is 00:04:37 the model is now but like they they don't they get released here like 10 years after they do it. Yeah, so actually we do have one of those. My wife has a Suzuki Jimny. Yeah. Yeah. But a Jeep is better. Yeah, but a Jeep is better than that. Jeep makes better off-roading cars than those. Well, those are very old now.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Okay. But, like, there is a – I'm sure Brian will get into this. There's a hierarchy of how cool your off-roading rig is. And a lot of the guys who are into the Samurais or Jimneys are doing it almost specifically because there is no real other option other than getting a truck. And they hate Jeeps these people are like yeah it's a little bit like they are certainly not as capable as a as a jeep they're kind of like contrarians almost they're like oh everybody loves the jeep but like fuck it i'm you know like like an android user or something yes yes that's what i thought was funny that's what i thought
Starting point is 00:05:44 was funny about like i was on the jeep subreddit and this guy's like i thought was funny that's what i thought was funny about like i was on the jeep subreddit and this guy's like i just traded in my 4x4 uh geo or he said something like i just replaced my 4x4 geo tracker with a jeep and the guys in the thing were all like do you still have it i want to buy it i need this i want it you shouldn't done it it's great it's the perfect car and like they say it's good for like ice fishing because it's uh light and stuff they weigh a lot less so it's like a lot of off-roading is digging your car out when you get it stuck so yeah i see there's a benefit to having it be lighter well there is a thing on the subreddit that i found a person who definitely had a tough day they got stuck in a what they call i think a bog or something i'm i'll that's got some water involved i'm
Starting point is 00:06:40 guessing oh yeah they were fucked dude they were like the car if i have the picture i'll show you the picture the car oh they i didn't have the picture but uh they were up to like the passenger windows in this mud and they were uh they the the thing they posted is got ourselves in kind of a situation after 21 hours bypassing jeepers helped us out um so this person oh that's getting pretty scary 21 hours is not that's not a short period of time to be stuck in uh that amount of mud wow well i don't know how any but if jeeps like the off-roading jeeps oftentimes will have like wenches on the front that would make it easier to get pulled out i think i think like if other cars are driving by you know your ford broncos or something like that i don't think they can pull
Starting point is 00:07:40 them out is is the thing without you know all the equipment so and also like why would you like getting involved in a car situation like this would be i i think i i wouldn't want to be involved with them because it would feel like you have to sit there but wait a second you have to but you have to help them brian no you don't have to a lot of people just drove right by no that's wild they could die you gotta help them they got a jeep though they can get right out of it if it was a suzuki you would you would pull them out or like a geo geo metro or like maybe a Honda CRV. I'd be like all about.
Starting point is 00:08:29 But there was, guys, there's so much mud in the picture. They are really way down in the mud. I'm trying to get it up here so I can show you. But it looked like hell. So the first reply to this i found super interesting here um this is from 1977 cj53867 good name and they said another jeep actually stopped to help in 10 years i've been broken down along the road and not one other jeep stopped to offer to help that is insane is there like is there like some sort of like every jeep for itself mentality no they're supposed to be absolutely not
Starting point is 00:09:12 but but this doesn't speak to any kind of a jeep community if these people are saying that the g that i mean that would seem like day one stuff of a community would be to help somebody who's broken down on the side of the road you know i feel like maybe the guy like has something unsettling like that he's not got you yeah some sort of bumper sticker or something on there it's very very racist it's got like the punisher and that yeah yeah yeah and blue blue line yeah whatever it's really popular in like jeep communities is to like make very uncouth statements about like fat women like they'll have stickers that say no fat chicks and stuff like that so yeah listen that that's what i was picturing in my head i wasn't thinking of the off-roading side of it when we were talking about jeep guys i was picturing like a guy with like a tank top on
Starting point is 00:10:10 and like bleach blonde spiky hair you know and sunglasses just like cruising down the sunset strip or no like maybe like uh the beach or whatever you know trying to pick up babes that's what i was it handles like really bad on the street chris and they break down all the time i mean they're i most it's not meant to be driven on the it's meant to be driven off road i know i know well this i see you this person said i even stepped out in front of one guy and he just drove by so this guy might he might have a bad look too you might have a scary look he might he like he might have like like he's like saying it like they didn't even help but like the real scene was like a horror movie you know what i mean it was like
Starting point is 00:10:54 he like stepped out and he's like this terrifying figure like the person is like still terrified of that night like to this day they like talk about it all the time because i grew up different we were taught to never pass up another jeep think you guys should teach jeepers ethics rather than concentrating on what new piece of bling they should add so i see so taking a little parting shot there as well but yeah listen where i was raised as well it's you know the jeeps gotta pick each other up lift each other up they can't be you know pushing each other down you gotta help your fellow jeep brothers and sisters and you never never see this in the tacoma community no no oh the tacoma community? I mean, any type of... That is so tight-knit, like in the Tacoma community.
Starting point is 00:11:47 They would like... Honestly, they would call their Tacoma friends if they needed. They would get like a pulley system set up. They're like Harrison Ford with the helicopter. They just go out there specifically to go find people and save them. Yep, and meanwhile, you got Jeeps driving by. Well, the Jeep enemy, guys, we're going to get into this a little later. specifically to go find people and save them yep and meanwhile you got jeeps driving by well the jeep enemy guys we're gonna get into this a little later
Starting point is 00:12:08 the jeep's enemy is the uh bronco the the ford bronco which by the way i don't know if you guys know this is a little thing ford stands for found on road dead so yeah so you learned that from the Jeep guys? No, I've known that since I was a kid. That's a commonly known thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Space City Gladiator replied and said, really, in my area, we have a Jeep group. And anytime someone posted they were stuck, multiple Jeepers asked where and gave an ETA
Starting point is 00:12:43 of how long it would take them to get there to help. Didn't matter if it was one or two hours away. Someone always says they will be there to help. So that's nice. That's incredible. But our original person replies to that and says, not the point. Oh, this guy. See, this guy is like this guy is like a killer.
Starting point is 00:13:04 He's so mad. He's like a killer he's so mad he's like a killer he's like already so angry he's like you know you fucking talk to me like that you know like how dare you i could squish you i could squish you like a bug this guy's a psycho killer scary right not the point we all have people we can quote call if we have service the point is if you break down alongside of a mountain pass with no service with hood up working on problems for a couple hours and have 10 to 15 quote jeeps drive by and wave one quote jeep i stepped out in front of waving my arms as he said that already if that's the new brotherhood of jeepers keep it i don't want any part of it you guys just keep putting
Starting point is 00:13:44 more bling on your junk and keep trying to impress each other with your 40 inch tires four to five inch lifts jacks across your hood and snorkels i have not seen that so much on jeeps i will say like occasionally you'll see it but i don't know that i've seen like i see jeeps every now and then out on the road you know and i don't know i don't see a lot of them how they're not the type of car that i tend to see with the things that he's describing well it's yeah it's usually like some some other if you know it's a different type of car well playing on your car you know i mean yeah i mean you see it a lot here but you do in like a redneck area so they they so this person i guess i would say it's more it's more i live in a place where we have rich people who think they're rednecks i guess yeah mountains too
Starting point is 00:14:31 right like you're all right where are you where are you sir i'm in north carolina okay yeah he's buying a ton of mountains and stuff there's gonna be cheaper definitely the more you go up to asheville the more you see oh yeah okay so this is. So this is, yeah. Of course, I'm in Canada. Me too. I'm in the city. What? Me too. Me too.
Starting point is 00:14:53 Me too. I see the hat. Yeah. Thank you. This is a question here. That's why I try to wear the hat. And every time I say it, Chris is like, what? Excuse me?
Starting point is 00:15:02 And it's like, I'm wearing the hat, dude. Fucking Otani. Otani, eh, right?ani otani eh right that was the worst day of our lives of our lives yeah yeah we we talked to each other on the phone i'm okay i'm changing it now we're now i'm with brian on being canadian well this guy asks what is a jeeper gpY-K. And it's good to get a definition from them. And he goes, recently, my grandson asked me if he had to own a jeep to be a jeeper. Well, yeah. I'd say yes. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:15:37 What? Wait, wait, wait. It's a mindset. I feel like you're giving a bad advice yeah you gotta get the g he can't call himself a jeeper when he turns like 16 and he has like a a accurate legend or something oh you got it not a jeeper yeah and how and our jeeps jeeps are expensive so god are they and they hold they're hard to get used ones because they hold value really well so people yeah yeah they're expensive now here's that's kind of sucks
Starting point is 00:16:12 sorry just because so it's not it's only for only rich people can really in modern day people they have to be quite well especially all these modifications that they're talking about those are four or five thousand dollars a pop i see so you're putting in a lot of money into like hundreds of thousands of dollars potentially some of those crazy ones you see you're looking at like a hundred thousand ish thousand dollar car yeah he goes are some people born this way or is it just an acquired taste or are some of us just gluttons for punishment or is it a label some people use just to be cool what is a jeeper on the jeep message board um well i mean i isn't a person who drives a jeep
Starting point is 00:16:56 i don't know well j jadmt says uh tell your grandson he absolutely is a jeeper. So they're kind of agreeing, you know? But now here comes our original guy, and he's going to talk about what he kind of thinks about what it takes to be a jeeper. I want to see if we all agree on this. Thanks, and I did. I give it a free pass to all children and family members and friends who have ridden with me.
Starting point is 00:17:24 I think once you've been in the seat of the Jeep, whether it be the driver's or passenger side, it's easy to get hooked. I gave my grandson, who is four years old, his first ride in the front seat. Not safe. He had the biggest smile from start to finish, even tried not to let me go home. I had to run him around a few extra blocks. I hooked him up like a big mouth bass looks like i'll be saving for another jeep so so yeah because i'm just picturing these jeeps that i think of you know like you know the ones i'm talking about like you know
Starting point is 00:18:00 the one that like a zoolander is driving or whatever. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Like, that one. That one is, like, a tremendous off-roading vehicle as well. Yeah. Yeah, they all – Well, it can't – like, that's the thing is, like, so a lot of them you can – like, the mole crawler that Brian referred to earlier, the way you can tell is the tires.
Starting point is 00:18:23 So, like, when you get those big knobby tires it a you get like the worst gas mileage possible when you have all the shit that they put on there too these guys these guys that are talking about their crazy fucking jeeps like they probably get like eight miles a gallon because the car weighs a million pounds the tires it takes so much you know more energy to move them buddy if i if i only got eight miles i would fucking lose myself in the music the moment and own it i would never let it go thankfully chris there is a voice of reason and that is lucky mac thank you lucky mac yes and he goes i've long stated that in order to be a biker you must own a motorcycle no a bicyclist isn't a biker and lucky mac lingo so i'm sorry
Starting point is 00:19:14 if you're all riding bicycles you can't call yourself a biker well you don't you gotta call yourself someone who rides a motorcycle yeah i feel the same way about jeeps and jeepers but i make an exception for the original's grandson i'll bet he'd be a jeeper once he's old enough it's not a hard and fast rule you can own and carry a pistol and not be a pistolier you can be a i was i was in i was but this guy's saying the same soft shit nah man you gotta have a jeep you can't be some little kid and call yourself a jeeper yeah i agree i agree you know but these people are trying to be nice i guess i hate people who are trying to be nice to kids yeah tell them the truth well let's look at john stevens then where he's he he has a something to say too he goes so i can
Starting point is 00:20:04 buy a truck and be interested in trucks and still be a jeeper yeah I have to have definitions so they mean nothing there's my man our favorite kind of guy the needlessly combative I can call him a jeep he goes uh so the guy that delivers my mail is no longer a mailman i can call him a jeeper and be accurate i'll just call everyone a jeeper and cut down on my wasting of adjectives and nouns yeah well some mailmen are jeepers they there's some mailmen do drive of course that's an interesting point that that there could be a mailman who's but the point he's making is he's just gonna start
Starting point is 00:20:45 calling everyone like oh the i'm going over to the jeepers house to see the jeeper and i have to go visit the jeeper and the jeeper is gonna come with me you know like that's what this guy's gonna do to prove his point well and and he's so mad at like them saying like a teenager can be and then let nut says uh i own a jeep i off-road some not nearly as much as i want jeep spends most of the time in the garage i would best describe my situation as a delusional jeeper okay so even so that person's like i have a Jeep, but I don't even, I wish I were, but I don't really even drive it around. If you knew the amount of people that their Jeep is just something that sits in the garage until like one weekend a month where they get to go out and drive in the dirt, it's crazy. It's a second car for the majority of the majority of these people well like you mentioned they are literally the worst car on earth to drive like on the road yeah they are they're
Starting point is 00:21:54 like i had to drive it when i did the jeep trip i had to drive it on the highway and i was in puerto rico and like so that's like on the sides of mountains and shit i thought i was gonna crash it like what what made the handling and stuff on it is bad like what makes it so bad so so so first it has it doesn't have independent suspension like a car like where the the wheels can move to different angles like separately of the other one it's a big metal bar that crosses to both wheels so the whole car if you go on an angle it goes on an angle um so it's just like yeah it's it's hard to steer they you i can't even imagine having one in the city and having to parallel park it like that would be a time because it has like the worst
Starting point is 00:22:37 turning radius like yeah they're terrible is there any funny videos of jeep parallel parking i wonder i i think they're most of the videos i I watched were Jeeps getting a death wobble, which is something that Jeeps get. It's like a regular, it's like a part of owning the Jeep. What does it mean? It's just when you drive the car at highway speeds, it shakes. Yeah, and it shakes so bad that's a cool feeling that's not scary at all the first time it happens to you it's not like you ever have
Starting point is 00:23:13 to drive at highway speeds no it's really very weird we're not there's not most people are driving in dirt like 90 of the time you know You know, we live in the Old West. Yeah, you just yeah, you keep it out on the dirt farm. You drive it from the dirt city over to the, you know, the dirt supermarket. Well, we do have a list of Jeeps Jeep glossary. So let's let's take a look. A rig refers to any Jeep or off-road vehicle that's built to the gills typically typically featuring a lift kit aftermarket bumpers off-road lights aftermarket
Starting point is 00:23:55 wheels and tires and various other accessories that set it apart from daily drivers so that's what a rig is most of these guys are driving a rig not a jeep but the thing talking about like adam was describing like all the modifications that they do to it put all the money into it and stuff that's what makes it a rig yeah yeah yeah and uh they don't have death wobble on this list i read about death wobble i watched so many jeeps get the death wobble and like one guy just being i was reading like i'd search death wobble in the jeep wrangler subreddit and one of them was like hey you know we gotta rest in peace to uh my grandpa who was driving his jeep on the highway and he got a death wobble and wrecked and killed him and uh yeah it was crazy because
Starting point is 00:24:40 you lose all control of the car yeah i'd imagine it must cause a lot of accidents like you know what's funny too is is that um that's why they stopped selling the suzuki samurai in the u.s is because consumer reports was like oh it flips too easily and it gets the death wobble and i didn't i didn't honestly did not know that the wrangler has it too but the the everyone's conspiracy theory is is that the samurai was out selling the wrangler at the time and jeep chrysler was like get rid of this fucking thing like this is our market it actually does say the jeep death wobble is a mechanical defect in your jeep vehicle the death wobble is caused by loose damaged or misaligned parts in your jeep suspension or steering system due to the mechanical
Starting point is 00:25:26 defect in your car the parts can shake loudly or violently when you travel at high rates of speed now how high are we talking like that's 55 miles an hour yeah i think we're talking 55 to 65 that's it yeah that is that is the speed limit i mean maybe somebody goes a little faster but jeeps aren't fast at all they're not aerodynamic so you're not talking about going like it's like very super super fast not a hundred no like literally like just merging out of the highway yeah oh it can just happen while you're driving Like you could just be driving somewhere and your car could start shaking violently and the steering wheel is shaking violently. How often would something like that happen? I mean, I was reading a thread where basically they were like, hey, remember the last time you got a death wobble?
Starting point is 00:26:20 And they were all talking about like different times where they had death wobbles. death wobble and they were all talking about like different times where they had death wobbles so i think if you're a jeep guy you're probably gonna get the death wobble at some point you know what i mean like because you're driving it so much and yeah of course i would you know i would um i would say that i would get a different car we just got a car we didn't get a jeep and i'm glad now that we did not choose the jeep the other thing you have to remember about like modifying your car so like you know i do this too with my miata and it's like whenever you're putting improvements quote unquote onto your car to a normal person you're ruining the car like because the car that they made in the factory was
Starting point is 00:27:06 like that like real engineers being like well this is probably like going to cover what people expect from a vehicle and then so when you do your own improvements generally you make it unusable for normal things yeah so i'm sorry and like i'm as you can tell I'm not a car guy at all and so I'm I'm interested in this a lot though specifically this death wobble is very interesting to me is that that happens if it after modifications I bet I would guess so the modifications are what caused that to happen because otherwise it would have been, somebody would have stopped. If it was happening in production,
Starting point is 00:27:50 off the production line, then the government would have probably said, hey, you have to stop selling cars that do this. Being a red light, yeah. And you're definitely going to probably get it at some point. But so now we're almost a half hour into this and we got to get to the Jeep Customs. So, Chris, when you're driving your Jeep Wrangler. I don't have one again. I said, well, you know, when you're driving your Jeep Wrangler down the road and you see another Jeep Wrangler, you give them a wave, like a two finger sort of wave.
Starting point is 00:28:30 Two finger kind of wave. OK. Yeah. Like almost like a peace sign in a way. But it's more like. But it has that third finger up kind of you're doing it with the third finger up. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:39 Yeah. And I'll make the picture for the thing, the Jeep wave. And I'll make the picture for the thing, the Jeep wave. And there's a big problem in the Jeep community and Dirty South Fishing is letting them know. He goes, for probably the last two weeks, every day I drive my Jeep around town and I wave to all my fellow Jeepers. But nobody, and I mean nobody, has been waving back for a few days. I convinced myself there was a holiday within the jeep community well we're not pastafarians okay i didn't know about but now i'm just sure it's just people who don't know about the culture behind owning a jeep i just wanted to throw
Starting point is 00:29:15 my two cents out there a bunch of just people who are just like fucking not complete fucking losers like me what's going on with society these days where everybody's not doing this super fucking lame thing that i'm interested in doing and everyone's just like kind of driving their car around and focusing on the road and all the other things they're not paying attention to trying to stay safe on the road i guess or whatever hey there's there's a jeep challenge coin i just saw um so this is the jeep wave if you know it is three it's like the the two up and then you have the thumb out as well so okay wave uh and and you know this frisbee here says you either get it or you don't you know you either get it or you don't you don't do the jeep wave here's a comeback well this guy brianica says i don't sweat it keep the faith my wife has noticed
Starting point is 00:30:10 that a lot of four-door wranglers driven by women don't have any idea about the wave when those jeeps go off lease and get sold to jeepers they'll be fresh and in great shape for getting built up and hitting the trails so women one problem is women is this guy basically is he saying that they should stop selling jeeps to women that's the thing that irritates them quite a bit well because doesn't uh isn't the movie clueless she drives a wrangler right okay yeah so like that there's like that is kind of their archetype of this nemesis inside the community rotting away the sanctity of using the Wrangler for what it's intended to do. Yeah, I'll say this though, Adam.
Starting point is 00:30:57 And it does kind of suck when you're really into it. And this is all this is, by the way. You're really into something. You is all this is by the way you're really into something you really like it it goes mainstream and then the world's like sort of lamest people in the world are like hey i do this too and you're like god damn it they took my thing away and it seems to me that a lot of course they didn't take it away but i i understand that feeling the feel like you can still do it. And, you know, like, but, yeah, I understand. It's like feeling like.
Starting point is 00:31:30 And sometimes I guess it can be. I mean, I don't know. There can be an issue with getting cars. I don't know. You know, production stuff. So sometimes maybe it would stop you from getting the new, like, Jeep that you wanted to get or whatever. You don't want the new one, Chris. That's the fun part.
Starting point is 00:31:44 No, no no that's the key god i have an old jeep guy you don't want anything past about 2002 oh i i know because you want the jeeps that will kill you yeah they're like anything anything after that is too coddling it's got i don't even have the death they don't have they don't have the death rattle i mean most of these people are sort of like and and this is another there is a hierarchy of jeeps absolutely and uh some of them get the grand cherokee which honestly if you drive the grand cherokee you're not supposed to get away from a wrangler it depends on which one though it depends It depends on which one. Yeah, that's true. But XJ still gets a wave. Should a Wrangler wave at the Cherokee, though?
Starting point is 00:32:28 Is it like a hierarchy thing where it's like in the military where one person is supposed to salute, you know what I mean? You're not supposed to salute. Initiate the wave, yeah. It feels to me like the way I was reading into it is the Jeep Wrangler is the one you think of when you think of a jeep you know what i mean like you're thinking of that specific thing yeah but there are all these other jeeps that are like uh grand cherokee is one where they kind of my brother has one of those actually but they kind of made them more for families like is that like an suv is that
Starting point is 00:33:00 like yeah yeah okay yeah it's kind of an suv but then you know well what are you doing with that jeep you know what i mean you can't take that fucking jeep out to the fucking woods and drive it in the dirt so what i mean what if you rig what if you turned into an you can't rate you can't fucking you can't but even still it's not good enough to the wrangler people who are like we're the fucking jeep guys man so you know there's like a whole thing so like jeep was like start like the first jeeps were made by this company called american motor company and they don't exist anymore so those jeeps anything made by that company that's like the top tier that's like everybody
Starting point is 00:33:42 waves to those people. They always, until 2002, they, they were, so then Chrysler bought that company in the eighties, in the eighties. And then, so then they made another one that they made a TJ, which still has parts from the original of the CJ,
Starting point is 00:34:00 which is from AMC. And the TJ is like considered like the highest level i would say the cj maybe but the tj is tj is like the jurassic park one is there is there a cheap yj yes that comes after yeah that's because that yj is the last like good one okay to a lot of people and then the xj is like the first grand cherokee and that's the only one i a lot of people. And then the XJ is like the first Grand Cherokee. And that's the only one I would ever imagine gets a wave. Because those are like classic now. Yeah, because they don't, they, you're not.
Starting point is 00:34:33 So there is a hierarchy inside of the Jeep world. But there's also just that like, you know, this person goes, there's two reasons I don't wait. Chris, this must be you. Actually, this guy sounds like you. Concentrating on the road and didn't see you until the last second. You might be passing me. I'm sorry. And Clement Weather.
Starting point is 00:34:51 Drove through a big rain and hail snow in southwest Colorado. Colorado. Colorado! Colorado! Float, float, float, float, float. Colorado. That's a good one that's one that just people can just sink their teeth into it's really simple to type out uh why in their colorado baby and it's and it's good you know it's like a nice thank you for that one brian appreciate that and and uh he goes uh in this case grow up safety
Starting point is 00:35:26 first man you know he doesn't wave which is crazy i mean listen i know that like you should be paying attention to the road but it doesn't take your mind off the road to do the way it depends the situation that you're driving in if you pass somebody on the highway maybe you're going real fast you notice it at last maybe then you don't have to be doing it but yeah if you're just like yeah you got a death wobble okay i like to call it the death rattle is it well that would mean it's gonna die it's not gonna die you just have to figure out why it's doing the death i was thinking you're gonna die and it's the worst problem too because it's intermittent chris so like they're like i was reading a guy that was traveling nine
Starting point is 00:36:18 hours for the holidays yeah because hey i got to where i i went and we got a death wobble two times on the way it's like should i have it looked out here or you think it's cool to just drive it back to nine hours and get it looked at there and all of them said drive it you can drive it back it's fine yeah it doesn't need to be checked out right away to be to be clear i'm going to be going in the highway driving the same situation same speeds as when it happened yeah it was three times he got it and uh he said i'd never gotten it before but i got it three times yesterday and it's like you should get that looked at sir i think that's probably something you gotta look at here dirty south fishing is the original poster he goes well when i'm driving through a small town road at 35 miles an hour with not even a cloud in the sky
Starting point is 00:37:09 inclement weather weather shouldn't be a problem haha but i do understand that some people simply don't see me till the last second due to focus and during bad weather i'm focusing just as hard as the next jeeper i could care less about the wave haha now here's the thing he's only saying that because that other guy made him feel bad for not being safe yeah he he does care about the wave is he cares online posting about it this guy says the wave is serious business to some people like it is it's very serious like in hierarchy, very serious to them. Yeah, that's pathetic.
Starting point is 00:37:50 I am solo one. I am solo one says both of the previous posts are absolutely correct. In my opinion, most quote new Jeep owners have the money to own one, but not the passion that comes with the lifestyle of owning one so i can only assume that their attitude is something like well why would i wave at a complete stranger i don't need to explain the answer to a real jeeper so yeah so he's a bunch of rich people basically i mean that's true it sounds like you know especially as stuff begins more expensive and it becomes more like exclusionary you you know, that could be the case. You get all these rich snobs that are doing it. They don't they're not going to be waving at you, you know.
Starting point is 00:38:32 Well, this guy says I've stopped waving to JKs and JLs unless they're obviously heavy, heavily modified because they never wave TJ and earlier wave every time. And so there you go. Yeah, the real Jeepers like that And so there you go. Yeah. The real Jeepers. Like, like, yeah, that will kill you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:49 Yeah. And now I know what the important part is, is dying, driving the car. Now I'm going to read you something that is from our Bronco. So Jeepers and Bronco drivers hate each other. Yeah. One bit. And this Bronco guy says uh we need
Starting point is 00:39:08 to wave at jeep drivers for the uninitiated jeep drivers have been waving at each other since 1946 for cool reasons we should start doing the same thing to signal willie's amc dodges end of their 70 years supremacy of customizable off-road dominance i've been doing it since i got my bronco in may 2022 and it's quite fun i'm never sure if jeep drivers return the wave out of habit or respect but we should wave regardless so now you got these bronco guys doing the wave and that is an attack on the jeep guy but it doesn't sound like it just sounds like this guy's like trying to get it going you know what cool said had a jeep driver give me a thumbs down it's a hostile jeep yeah old school guy that's old Well, here's how we look. We got to look at how the outside world looks at him.
Starting point is 00:40:06 And Jeremy B. 1986 said, I intended a charity ride for the local fire department recently. All vehicles were welcome per the flyer. However, the Jeep owners thought it was just a Jeep only event. Apparently, they were butthurt to the max that me and one other Bronco owner showed up and several were incredibly disrespectful. Well, when was that posted? 92 days ago. They're saying butthurt to the max. I will say,
Starting point is 00:40:36 so we have this giant like car show that happens every month. It's called cars and coffee. Lots of people might be familiar with ones in their own town. It's like in the mornings and people show up in a parking lot and people sell coffee and you look at each other's cars right so they do a theme every month of like what like to try and get like more people out for certain things and january has always been jeep month and yeah and people got they were like well we feel excluded like you know there's other things like jeeps like why can't we come blah blah so they changed it to like all rigs basically
Starting point is 00:41:13 oh i bet the people they're probably agreeable i thought they were going to be totally agreeable and just be accepting of everybody else share the day no they've had to turn off comments on like every instagram post that they've made like since they announced it because it's just like turn it into jeep people just like flaming the fucking account it's so funny they must have been so mad when at the when the oj thing wasn't that he was driving a bronco right that's true yeah he was, they must have been like, why couldn't he have been in a fucking Jeep? You know?
Starting point is 00:41:50 A nice TJ. What do you mean? It was still this, and it wasn't great, obviously, but it was, first off, it wasn't OJ's car. It was Cowling's, and it was showing it all the time, and it was like, look at this thing. This thing's hauling.
Starting point is 00:42:05 It looks like it keeps going. Bronco sales went through the roof. Yeah, it's getting good mileage and stuff. Nah, yeah, it was definitely good for the Bronco. I'm a Bronco. I would be a Bronco guy. We have a Bronco guy that's a regular guest on this show. Who's that?
Starting point is 00:42:20 Tom Sexton. Oh, that's awesome. One of the Broncos? So I love Broncos. I'm trying to say one of the new Broncos. So I love Tom. So in that case, fuck Jeeps. I'm not.
Starting point is 00:42:28 I hate Jeepers. I'm going to thumbs down Jeepers. If next time I see a fucking Jeep, like a fucking YJ or earlier or whatever, any mods on there, I'm going to fucking thumbs down or I'm going to yellow Broncos for life. Even though I don't drive a Bronco. Well, there's another one. Another big thing that Jeep drivers do. And before we get to that, I want to read a couple of funny Jeep jokes that I got from a website called Fit Captions. And these are good.
Starting point is 00:42:59 These are jokes that they tell inside of the community. I thought you guys might like it. He goes, why do Jeeps make such good off--road vehicles here we go here's the punchline you guys are gonna love this because they're always ready to jeep going i don't even know what's the point like keep sounds like yeah yeah yeah it is kind of yeah it's one of those thinking it's one of those jokes you really gotta think about that's very that's i mean the reality of it of course is it was actually too dumb for you that you're like your brain wasn't able to wrap itself around how stupid it was because they like that didn't even present itself as an option for you because it would be so unfunny to say that why did the jeep cross the road to get to the other side i guess no it's to
Starting point is 00:43:52 get to the off-road trail on the other side oh yeah there's an off-road trail there i saw i see it now they do do that like literally yeah they'll just cut across yeah what do you call a jeep that's been stolen um let's think about this i don't know i'm trying to think on their level too like you know like i'm trying like what what is there what are the different a jeep uh wrangled yeah well i'm to tell you you're not going to get it because it is a grand theft automobile. What? That's the answer. And one...
Starting point is 00:44:30 I don't understand the answer. Hang on, hang on, hang on. Where are you reading it? Where are these jokes coming from? Bitcaptions.com slash funny jeep jokes. Because I think this is a... This is is an ai generated ai generated or a baby or not a baby but like a kid or something you know what i mean like 12 years old or something check this out why do jeep owners always wave at each other well they don't they don't always. Sometimes we've learned. Well, it's a way of saying Jeep going, fellow adventurer.
Starting point is 00:45:08 We already heard that. As long as I get that one this time. Yeah. Because now you know that Jeep means keep. All right. There's another huge tradition in the Jeepep world and that's rubber ducking people sounds nasty it sounds like a nasty sex thing you would do rubber rubber ducking you know not surprised if the swingers were like yeah like yeah it does have a really swinger vibe to it i
Starting point is 00:45:40 was rubber ducking last night it does sound like something like maybe like rubber rubber ducking last night. It does sound like something like maybe like rubber, rubber ducking would be like maybe having an orgy in a bath or something or tearing through a bunch of condoms. Cause it's like ducking, you know, rubber. Yeah. Yeah. Well,
Starting point is 00:45:55 we do know we have a friend who's done. Yeah. Tom did like how many condoms they say he went through 20, but he said 20, 20 exaggerating. Yeah yeah we don't know if he was exaggerating here oh uh what ducking is is that uh people carry a bunch of uh ducks in their car rubber ducks like a bunch of them and uh they put them on jeeps when they see them parked in a parking lot they they'll put them on there with a little card that says you know maybe jeep going or something
Starting point is 00:46:33 like that you know keep you you just made that up right i did i did no i didn't make up the duck and the card yeah but what it's supposed to be it like started it was supposed to be like jeeps you thought were cool but now the casuals have found out about it and they're like more into it than the real jeep people you know this is this is me i'm adding a little bit of commentary yeah i'm like i'm feeling the pain of the real jeeper right now but now they just stick them on any jeep. People just get the jeeps for the ducks, it feels like. And the jeep guys hate, do not like it.
Starting point is 00:47:11 I would say probably 60% to 70% of the jeep guys hate it. And I think it's because a woman came up with it, would be my guess. It was like a woman that drives a jeep that thought it was cute. Well, I mean, listen. my guess it was like a woman that drives a jeep that was like thought it was cute and well i mean listen i don't want to defend the jeep guys but it is extremely lame but it makes me think that they would like it you know what i mean like but i don't like it at all like i i don't find it to be it would be it would you know it'd be funny though is if you went and put a uh a rubber duck on there and then the card said broncos rule well now chris i gotta tell you broncos are trying to start their own thing broncos are like listen i will say i love broncos because my friend tom
Starting point is 00:48:00 drives one and i'm broncos for life always Always. I hate Jeeps, but they should stop trying to like take Jeeps things, you know? Yeah. They have a koozie, a beer koozie thing where they put that on the car and it says like Bronco up or something like that or buck up or something. So they're doing it now. And they're also doing a new way,
Starting point is 00:48:22 which is the hook them horns thing from the Texas. You know what I mean? Cause it's Bronco yeah okay that's cool that's cool yeah i mean yeah it is very funny the duck thing leads to i've seen a lot of pictures where people have off-roaded their jeep into like a river and the jeep floods and then all the ducks shoot out, and they're flowing down the river. They'll have 50 ducks on the dashboard. It's just like these things are pouring out of the Jeep. They leave the ducks on.
Starting point is 00:48:53 They put it on the dashboard. If you ever see a Jeep now, look. You'll see people have them all over the dashboard. Yeah. Some have them a lot, and some people don't. I'll read you this this jeep guy talking about i hate this shit a girl down the street has a bikini blue jeep all snazzed up with paradise theme stickers and whatnot named her ride tiki in that hawaiian script on the signs
Starting point is 00:49:20 her entire dash from side mirror to side mirror has at least two dozen little rubber duckies lined up under the windshield they just all appeared one day so i think either she went to a jeep expo or bottom all doesn't seem like she gives them out to other jeeps they just hang out there blocking the defrosters don't feel strongly about it one way or the other just seems like a hassle especially if you take it on a bumpy terrain and they go flying all over the cabin so that's just a regular jeep guy talking about you know the pitfalls of having a bunch of rubber ducks on i don't know they all appeared pretty quickly so i find it hard to believe that they were actually legitimately earned i believe those were purchased
Starting point is 00:50:03 and placed there by the owner he did also mention not being that really angry about it but yet he wrote this post again he's writing a post but he's like all they're doing is basically blocking the defrosters through a little fucking ribbon there like
Starting point is 00:50:20 your functionality of your automobile is not yeah that's a real listen i i do think it's extreme that that is that sounds like a pretty cool ass jeep though you know oh yeah well here's one uh that this is the first ducking one i i saw and said someone just didn't understand what the duck duck jeep was tried explaining some just can't hang and uh so they posted a text uh thing right and it goes uh this woman says there's a duck you know i i guess she says there's a duck on my winch on my car and she goes and he responds and goes that's actually a
Starting point is 00:50:58 really popular thing among the jeep community that people have been doing for a while i didn't know about it until recently hey it's a good thing not a bad thing and she goes it's uncomfortable someone is touching my car and i do not think you or funny and uh so that is that is her reply now let's go some people just can't hang and she's just like completely normal she's just like this is fucking weird and bizarre like she's expressing like the normal attitude towards it and he's like i guess some people just can't hang so there is a uh picture you can see part of her steering wheel okay and it is bedazzled in the middle she did some bedazzlement on her steering wheel and this person goes uh
Starting point is 00:51:42 it's matt 03 says is that bedazzled steering wheel opinion discarded oh i hate i hate opinion discard you know are you with that hey can you show us brian can we see it uh it'll be hard for you to see but i will show you yeah yeah yeah it's it's like um it's a picture of a text so i see i see i see okay yeah i don't know how to zoom here but yeah it's just you can see the little bedazzlements okay so uh this person so opinion discarded to tell you the truth i don't even know why i would be worrying about what this lady's saying this guy called it an airbag claymore uh because that is true yeah it's kind of true and then this guy it will explode into your face i will hit you with a bit of a death rattle
Starting point is 00:52:36 mikey mikey says in the trash she goes so oh yeah cool running cool cool running says been jeeping since I was 21 I've had several now doors are always off same with the windows second vehicle only for fun use I've never been ducked not once I'm more offended about that touch my damn jeep I don't care actually keys are usually in it so just take the damn thing it's actually a running joke with my friends who have all had or still have wranglers they've all been ducked except the one guy who got them into jeeps which is so this guy's got a shit jeep it sounds like like it's unimpressive it's so shitty that he leaves the keys in it and no one's bothered to steal it like there's must be something wrong with that well he does say what's a guy gotta do she's rough around the edges from being
Starting point is 00:53:28 used and abused mud typically always on the dash dash bedline lifted no back seat as the dog is typically my only cargo the whole nine so people are disgusted by it it's a fucking mess your fucking jeep is a mess it's. It's and people hate it. Yeah. Legitimate peach. Nine, nine, four, six. As a personally, I wouldn't mind. I was ducked twice and I wave at everyone.
Starting point is 00:53:53 Some people either don't care, just don't want to be part of the Jeep community. Some people just want to drive their fucking car. Yeah, that's that's the truth of it. And like, but I guess if you're modding your shit then it is different you know but like some people just want to go off-roading they don't want to be part of a community they're like hey i like the idea like we talked about in the beginning it seems really fun to go off-roading adam you said it is really fun you know incredible so like yeah there's people who are just like hey i want to get the best car for that and i want to put mods on it so i can go do that i don't want to fucking get ducks on my
Starting point is 00:54:28 fucking shit i don't want to be three finger waving at people when they come by i just want to go and do this fun thing with a good car yeah well this guy does say though a part of me wishes that salespeople at the dealership could explain to new owners why jeepers wave slash duck each other no they're trying to sell the car like can you imagine that it's like the sales like certainly do though they almost certainly the dealer almost certainly mentions that no i don't know i think i would not try to sell it that way like you know some people maybe there's an appeal to that but i don't know that that's appealing to everyone some people are like oh i don't want that i just like like we're talking i just want to fucking drive my car you know i don't want to like well do this extracurricular stuff it is like a weird thing where like so like lots like miatas we have our
Starting point is 00:55:21 own customs and practices like so's the wave look like? So what's the wave look like? Well, it depends. If you pass a guy in the first one with the pop-up lights, he flips the pop-ups at you. Oh, I like that. Like, you know, like flash them at you. Yeah, like they pop them up at you.
Starting point is 00:55:39 It has the wave. And it's cool. Yeah, it's like the greatest feeling. Yeah. But some cars, it's like they're feeling yeah but uh some cars it's like they're so specific for like what they're used for it's hard for some people to imagine that a regular person would just buy this like and i get why the jeep people are like why aren't you trying to do the ducks why aren't you doing the wave like that's the whole point like of having
Starting point is 00:56:02 this is but it isn't for everyone right and the jeep is even more because the jeep is definitely a car functional like normal people will buy yeah and whereas the miata if you're what you know if you're modding up a miata you're probably wanting to be a part of some sort of community because what's the benefit to it not like a jeep you can go off-roading in it you can do all this sick shit what's the benefit to it? Not like a Jeep. You can go off-roading in it. You can do all this sick shit. What's the benefit for a Miata? You can race it on the track.
Starting point is 00:56:32 All my modifications are to make it faster, handle better. Yeah. Some people own a Miata and don't want to be a part of the community at all. Like my dad, he doesn't like people at all, but he has Miata. But do you street race it you could you wouldn't but you could uh yeah no well you go to tracks like uh like you can just go to the track with your car and i do i do that yeah how fast how do you how fast like what's your top speed you've hit on the track uh like 140 ish some miles an hour damn yeah hey hey i got a question for you uh does that feel pretty fast uh you know wave at that speed
Starting point is 00:57:19 yeah yes yeah you know i mean if you don't wave while you're out there it's still at those speeds yeah you are shunned by the community uh coming bears coming bears galore which is not a great name but you know what that's his name he likes all right what did you say the name was so people can clip the audio out coming bears galore so uh he goes i'm a big jeep guy i wear jeep stuff have an old grill in my garage i wave at everything but i hate the ducks and the angry eyes which i'll explain in a minute oh then it's the eyes like the thing you put on to the front of the well you put them like so they're like like a slanted piece of metal or plastic or something that you put on the headlights so that they look like angry eyes instead of the big round.
Starting point is 00:58:11 Because they usually, Jeeps have like a face sort of situation and the eyes look really happy because they're round. Yeah. And that's part of one of the things the Jeep goes. They like that it has that kind of, and so people will do the angry eyes and it is the most hated thing in the entire community there's not not a cool like if you do that you are not gonna get a lot of you look like a blue lies matter guy yeah all of the angry eyes have oh maybe that guy in the beginning nobody's like stopping for him or whatever maybe he's got the angry eyes remember the guy who like had like nine or ten people drive by him it could
Starting point is 00:58:51 yeah he could have had that share chris i'll show you the angry eyes oh yeah let's see um and uh so they this is what they are they're like little things you put over the thing that's how i pictured it it makes the jeep look like a mad person which they hate they just don't like it it's not yeah i mean it's they want to have a good like it's not good for the optics of the community they don't want jeeps to be thought of as angry at all exactly he goes uh this guy goes i'll never say anything out loud because it makes someone else happy altrano says uh someone's never taken their wrangler off the pavement and it shows and then the original poster goes she's definitely a pavement princess oh shut up that's where you fucking drive a car.
Starting point is 00:59:46 Most of the time, yes. Like 90% of the time, you should sort of drive your car because of it. Yeah. I mean, I get it because it's like they are very expensive, like we mentioned. So I don't really understand buying one if you don't want to use it for that because that's why they're so expensive is because they're very capable cars and like i mentioned too they're horrible to drive on the road but they do look cool like i mean i get their convertibles you can't really buy a convertible anymore you can take the doors off and shit like they're fun like yeah like i mean so i get it like i it goes both ways but you know like i yeah leave people alone like let them just like if they
Starting point is 01:00:27 just want to drive around with a stick shift and and yeah hop off their car like there's nothing wrong with that we know we deal on the podcast guys exclusively with people who don't think it's okay for people oh you know do not do things exactly the way they do. Well, here's from the Wrangler subreddit, which leads to a very good exchange. But this guy goes in the process of buying a 2018 JL. I just have to finish the paperwork when I pick it up. In the meantime, I've been reading. It's a really bad year. I had it inspected before I bought it, and everything's perfect. Only 24,000 miles on it. I can still pull out if I want to.
Starting point is 01:01:11 It's got all the options I want totally decked out. Is it straight up a shit year, or are there a ton of good ones out there too? It's $40,000, so I'm not trying to make a bad decision here. Now, here's the reply. Tell me if you'd want to buy this car after you hear this. I bought a loaded 2018 JLU in 2020 with 13,000 miles for 44K. The whiny 2.0 turbo took a little getting used to. Had a nasty case of death wobble after 5,000 miles. Found paint corrosion on almost every hinge. Some wonky electrical issues with the infotainment
Starting point is 01:01:46 screen all in all i still love the damn thing and almost regret taking as long as i did to finally purchase a jeep so you're happy with that you know like there are yeah there definitely are cars that aren't gonna do the death wobble thing at 5 000 miles dude 5 000 miles is such a small the thing is with jeeps is you have to remember they're made by chrysler which is the worst car company on the planet well so that's why they have all these horrible issues they get recalled all the time but like part of owning a je Jeep is that it's supposed to be inconvenient. They like fixing it, right? Like they love fixing the goddamn Jeep.
Starting point is 01:02:33 The Jeep breaks down, they get a chance to fix it. That's what's exciting to them. That's the, that's the fun part of owning a Jeep is that it's definitely going to break down and you're definitely going to have to fix it and uh that's how you build a community in a way because everybody is like going through kind of the same thing now it's self-imposed you know so here's here's some bronco guys that made it onto the subreddit now oh and uh and brute uh-oh bronco bruisers in the subreddit he goes uh this guy goes uh just empty every pocket right jeep and then this guy replies back and he goes fix or repair daily that's far got him then pack leader says somebody driving a chrysler product
Starting point is 01:03:22 probably shouldn't be throwing shade about reliability oh yeah the one it's like you're you're driving a car made by the one company worse than for next time fix it again tony that's a fix that's that's a that's a king of the hill joke yeah and and and what's fiat have to do with it that's the king of the hill joke it's yeah what is that in this context i think he just wanted to say oh he just knew that joe and it's like hey i know a joke where it sort of has a similar sort of feel where you use the letters and everything that i remember from the show king of the hill great show one of my favorite shows all time well this guy says just expect every problem yeah there we go how many more are these jacking every you know like imagine they just started getting like really nasty with it well the last
Starting point is 01:04:26 one is junk every existing part so the junk car jacking every existing pervert okay i mean i will say you do see a lot of upside down pineapples on jeeps oh i would imagine i believe about pineapple i see it all the time on jeeps i believe that there would be a crossover between jeep community a little bit and swinger community i could see that i had a few people actually yesterday uh reply to me on twitter that said like my neighbor is a uh jeep guy and a sex guy yeah and like somebody sent me another jeep with like porn hub like saying it's the porn hub audition mobile and uh here's the angry eyes talk and we're getting out of here is the apparent disdain for angry eye grill satire are you guys actually
Starting point is 01:05:21 serious now this post makes me laugh so they seem to be very popular i see them on every other modded wrangler i was kind of surprised when most posts i see from here and on our heap which is a heep great subreddit very funny cars there are about them and how terrible they are now we go edit i digress the hive mind of this community has me cringing even more than when I found out about the Jeep wave very unfortunate that this is my wife's dream car hope we can have a decent interactions in the wine so I think some people gave him some it sounds like he got absolutely torn up and he's like now just like so upset about how like he sounds like he's being forced into the
Starting point is 01:06:06 community by way of his wife because his wife is like we need to get a jeep and now he's like so this is what i have to look forward to hey he's obviously a tacoma guy you know oh yeah values reliability you know well-descripted machine and now he's being dragged into angry eyes waves ducks yeah cost of repairs death wobbles he wants a dronko this guy he's like i like dronko you know revolutionated gas 551 says i think they make people look like assholes and honestly i think they make people act like assholes too or at least over inflate their ego insane it doesn't cost any money to do it guys i want i want to tell you it costs uh where's the angry eyes that's 17 they're saying that the angry eyes over inflates people's egos yeah okay that seems car with 40 inch tires on it. Yeah, the most. The guy with the angry eyes, no, that's the guy who took it too far.
Starting point is 01:07:08 My opinion is that they are antithetical to the Jeep spirit and lifestyle. Jeeps are supposed to be fun. Enzo Ferrari called the original Willys and Ford Jeeps the best sports car ever made. Adventurous and most of all welcoming. I think sporting a Grumper makes a jeep the exact opposite of all those things again this is just my opinion i certainly wouldn't hold it against anyone a very nice lady at work has one but it's certainly not my thing so he did just call them grumpers but uh yeah i mean let's remember they are military vehicles like you know what i mean
Starting point is 01:07:44 like that i don't really get like a friendly vibe necessarily from a jeep yeah that's not a miata miata is very happy car you know i get a friendly vibe from miata honestly i only like there was they have a cheery kind of vibe to them you know they often are colorful as well i found before they used to there would be a variety like red like bright blue miatas like you know i really yeah yeah like i do think the jeeps without angry eyes look very nice and pleasant and like a it's like almost like the car smiling to you or it's not it but it's not a car that it's true it's absolutely like a military slash off-roading like brutish kind of vehicle it's not like the idea of these angry eyes is like oh my god like can you like this is so like
Starting point is 01:08:33 opposed to what we're about but i mean i guess maybe some i don't know i hate more chris oh the eyelashes are the word i i'm with him on that one that looks really yeah yeah so the jeep guys we we uh uh we looked at them what there will probably be more on guys plus as we learn more about the jeep guys I think we hit all of the stuff. We hit the angry eyes, we hit the ducks, we hit the wave, and we hit the death wobble, and the car's breaking down all the time. I was so shocked.
Starting point is 01:09:15 The first few Reddit threads I read really were like, oh, it broke down, but I got to put new tie rods on it or something like that. It sucks. When my car breaks down, it broke down, but I got to put new tie rods on it or something like that. And it's like, that sucks. When my car breaks down, it sucks. When I saw you post that, I was like thinking, I was like, Brian doesn't get the point of having like a project car is that you want, like you love the fact that it breaks all the time.
Starting point is 01:09:38 Like you, like, you're like it. Cause it's a, cause a, it's a story you can tell about the car, which is like the thing that you really own the car for is to talk about how big of a pain in the ass it is to you and then yeah and then you can be like you're every time you like buy it you're like okay well i'm going to do this and this and this but i'm going to do this part after this part breaks and then when it breaks like i finally buy the part so yeah and maybe you're just like yeah you're wanting to do all these things but you've put all the mods on there and you loved it so and maybe you're just like yeah you're wanting to do all these things but you've put all the mods on there and you loved it so much but you've like modded it out as far as
Starting point is 01:10:10 it can go and now there's like nothing else you can put on there but then something breaks down so now you gotta pop back into the garage you know well the other thing is people always sell their car after they get to like a finishing point they keep it like they build exactly they'll be like i built the dream build and then like three months later they're selling it well i had two friends i had two car friends growing up two guys very into cars they even went to college at northwest college which is uh college in lima ohio for high performance vehicles and stuff they learned about high performance vehicles and they each had a car like a a wonderful car um and one of them was kind of building it from scratch he was like learning how to work with
Starting point is 01:10:54 an engine and taking it apart and cleaning all the pieces and trying to get everything going the other one got some money for his 18th birthday, went and bought an old Camaro, then took it to a guy and said, make this thing go really fast. And I never respected that guy for the, the, the one that just said, that's you got to, that's the big thing is if you buy not, not built, then you're, it's two different things. It's, I mean, I think, I guess it's a phony,
Starting point is 01:11:24 but it's also like that person just guess it's a phony but it's also like that person just wanted to drive a really fast car you know what i mean they weren't interested in like being a mechanic and doing that and like they didn't have that interest they were just like a thrill seeker obviously so i think it's different things you know i sort of feel like for the money you put into this like camaro this i don't remember what year it was definitely a camaro i feel like the money you put into this you could just buy a fast car that's always the case that's always like every time someone is like i could do this to my car and make it like this fast it's like dude just sell your car and buy a faster one yeah so that guy sounds like he was dumb then
Starting point is 01:12:02 maybe just kind of dumb. He just had money. He was the one kid. Well, it's sad when you talk about it, but his dad died when he was really young and he got like some money when he turned 18. I see. And he used it for that. Oh, very cool.
Starting point is 01:12:18 You want to talk about how he died as we end the episode? Christ. It's how all my friends died. But that's it. That's the show. it's how all my friends died um but uh that's it that's the show that's the jeep guys oh come on say something funny and nice oh okay let me do something i'll get i got you i got you because i can't leave everyone on that let's do some jokes we'll do a couple more yeah do a couple more of these classic jeep jokes where they just replace the word keep with Jeep. They're good. They're very funny jokes.
Starting point is 01:12:53 Why didn't I put the link like where I put it, you know, all the way at the bottom of the page? I don't know why you do a lot of the things you do, brother. Oh, man. You know, I'm just a head here sometimes. But sometimes I'll be honest. I can't make heads or tails of some of the things you do what's the most important accessory for a jeep everybody in a car screaming right now i can guarantee it what do you guys say what a sense of adventure this just looks good. Ad copy. That is incredible.
Starting point is 01:13:26 That is a joke, folks. That is how you do it. Beautiful. Why do Jeeps always have the right of way on the trail? Oh, people love this one. Because they're the trail boss. What? Let's leave, please. Why do Je leave please great dates why because they'll take you anywhere you want to go these are not shows what's the best way to keep a jeep owner happy what just fill up their gas tank
Starting point is 01:14:06 this person doesn't even understand what a joke is this is like a this is like a suggestion yeah these are wild man i can't explain it why those are so how many jeeps does it take to change a light bulb? How many? None. They prefer to do it there. What? Pick that one apart, motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:14:33 Because I don't know. What in the fuck? That's a good one. Only one more. Why did the Jeep go to the eye doctor? You're like, what in the fuck? That's a good one. Okay, one more. Why did the Jeep go to the eye doctor? Why? Because it had four-wheel vision.
Starting point is 01:14:56 That's a joke. Adam, tell people where to find you. Well, you can find me on twitter uh i am da miata man d-a miata man uh and then uh yeah like brian mentioned we do i do a podcast with my friend dag uh kind of uh i guess in the in the same universe as guys but we talk to the guys themselves straight up uh about uh hobbies and like you know what got them into them why they keep doing them stuff like that so yeah we were we were gonna do that but we find when we do that it becomes hard because we make fun of them too much i was gonna say i uh i i had a lot of people go, Oh, like I was surprised you didn't get asked to do bowling guys. And I was like, in retrospect, I was so glad that I didn't. Cause it wouldn't have been
Starting point is 01:15:51 funny. It would have just been me getting very mad at you guys. Like, yeah, you know, we're like, Oh, should we have like a magician on or whatever? And we decided not to. And like, there's some, I think that it could work for, but some it's just awkward because it's just like we can be i i can i could be quite mean to the guy i also like it just depends like if you have somebody on that's like sort of proud of what they do but also has like a sense of humor about what they do, which a lot of guys with hobbies do. Like most people that listen to this show are they they goof. They don't mind it. They like if we do something.
Starting point is 01:16:35 Yeah, most most people have been caught. You've been caught at one point after 40 something that we've done. Like at one point, one of them sort of hit close to home and we haven't really gotten a lot of legitimate we get some people who are kind of goofing and of course we had the rockabilly guy who got really mad but that was also because i had zero understanding of what rockabilly was and i think that really upset him uh yeah brace acted like maniac brace acted like a maniac through the whole thing but it was so we don't really get so i think people are pretty yeah it's pretty they they understand and as we discuss all the time it's like i think very it's okay you know there's very few people that really where you're like i am this guy
Starting point is 01:17:17 and this is all i am and i'm the kind of person like the kind of people you guys are making fun of. That happens very rarely, I think. Yeah, I'll say this. I do, two weeks from now, this episode's release, you will get, because we're on episode 50 right here, Chris, we got one more episode, 51, before episode 52, which is Lego, guys. So I will go in the barrel as they call it for a whole episode chris will be prepping it and uh two weeks you know i gotta i gotta take this guy's crap we'll see you all next week with we don't know yet actually so goodbye bye

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