Guys: With Bryan Quinby - Guys: Episode 51 - Guitar Guys with Amber "@bloodberry_tart" Carr

Episode Date: January 30, 2024

You asked for it and I delivered with Guitar Guys. I had a hard time finding the weirdest guys and I planned to add some Noland to the episode but he wasn't doing it for me so we dove deep into the Ultimate Guitar Forum and R/guitars and The Acoustic Gear Forum, and we learned that these guys love to tell each other to suck each other off. There was a subscription flub 40 minutes in to the episode but I fixed it so I left it in so that you can root for me. You can find amber at Skulltenders streaming at https://www.twitch.tv/bloodberrytart and on twitter at https://twitter.com/bloodberry_tart There is much more Chris at twitter.com/thecjs and of course https://www.patreon.com/notevenashow And for more Guys content, streams and SHOCKTOBER: a deep dive into shock jocks you can click patreon.com/murderxbryan twitter.com/murderxbryan and twitch.tv/murderxbryan

Welcome to Guys, a podcast about guys. I'm Brian. This is the first show on a run, so I got that right. I feel really good. I had a really tough morning this morning. And with me today is the Ibanez guitar player, Chris James. Ibanez. Is that even?

I play Ibanez guitars. Is that how you pronounce it? Anyways, I'm not sure, but I'm sure that's insulting. And Brian, excited to be here excited to talk about shredding this week on the show somebody who i am a huge fan of amber car bloodberry tart on twitter what's up amber hello thank you for thank you for not saying that i play ibanez i appreciate that i would never but do you play an ibanez i my first uh that I play Ibanez. I appreciate that. I would never. But do you play an Ibanez? My first guitar was an Ibanez.

I have one too. Yeah? Uh-huh. That makes sense. Okay, so what is this? Now, what is the significance? You're going to have to help me out here, you guys excluding me right off the bat. So what is an Ibanez?

Is it a bad one? Let me explain one thing real quick. So K it oh god buddy we're one minute into the episode you've already brought up corn come on it's a guitar episode corn came out playing seven string ibanez guitars and it was if you were like a heavy metal person, you were like, that's the fucking coolest thing anybody's ever done. Yeah, that was like their thing. Ibanez is like the working man's metal guitar.

Oh, I see. It's working class. I got you. Okay. So then you were trying to insult me, Brian, by calling me working class. Very interesting. But so seven, help me out here again what is a

seven string guitar versus a standard guitar what does it give you extra string extra low string specifically so it gives you really make your new metal extra heavy yeah that's why it actually like allows you to play like different Yeah, lower notes, additional lower notes. That's why Korn sounds so badass and heavy, Chris. That's why. I don't know, man. Well, that's why Fieldy, their bassist, can play like that, where he just sounds like he's playing the bass

like he's banging on a bunch of trash can lids. Yeah, it's so cool. Because the guitars are so low, it doesn't matter that the bass is doing almost complete nonsense. I agree it sounds like trash. I agree it sounds like absolute trash. Have you ever heard the... Me and John do the POD cast

and we did a... Fieldy has a jazz record. Yes! Fieldy's jazz record. What's that called? Basically? Yes. Yes. B-A-S- b-a-s-s that's like some shit from the chive or something oh man but i actually i have it here on my desk i actually have the uh official corn coffee branded tumbler i'm drinking one too oh you also have your corn coffee mug let's go this is fucking brutal this is fucking brutal so he releases this thing and he's doing

an interview and somebody's like uh what made you decide i mean something about why do you play bass or what kind of bass guitar do you like to hear and he says i don't even really like bass guitar it makes me feel nauseous that explains how he plays right yeah because he just hits the fucking thing he doesn't really play the guitar he just hits it it's so he slaps the bass the bass. But he doesn't, Chris, he doesn't play anything. He really just holds it like this and just slaps it. That's why it sounds so, I mean, at the time, very cool. I would have thought that maybe he would have learned how to play it by now,

but whatever we're going to do. Oh, man. Have you ever heard the live set of Falling Away From Me? Definitely not. oh man have you ever heard the live set of falling away from me definitely not but they're all playing like it's a uh mt not a i think it's an aol unplugged session or something like that so they're all playing acoustic guitars and it sounds like a you know a nice acoustic arrangement until like all the instruments come in and then the camera pulls back and you realize feely is still playing his regular electric bass with the same tone it always has and it's just like these deafening trap like dissonant trash can sounds coming over the song good stuff it's so

good uh i am sharing my screen uh because there's a guy on screen that chris knows do you see him chris there's actually two guys i know both of these these guys. One of them is like Michael Nolan, who is a, he's a rock music critic. And the other guy is what the guy from saw who kills all those people. Well, yeah, maybe, but he's known in this realm as Royce in the house.

And he is extremely old to be using that moniker. If you're wondering, Michael Nolan is an expert on rock and roll and um i mean nobody knows more about rock and roll than michael nolan i'm going to tell you that right now we go to him anytime we have a rock and roll based problem he only knows like he only knows like 11 bands that he talks about and none of them are current bands none of them are active or maybe some of them are doing those sort of reunion tours or whatever but he wants led zeppelin to have a reunion tour and i was like the guy's 80 and this is his last chance

it's like what the fuck dude i love i can see the like also recommended videos and it's like Joe Bonamassa videos Jeff Beck Kiss yeah Motley Crue like this is really like a a murderer's row of albums that dads like to listen to oh and then there's an interesting one there in the recommended videos as well

the Bob and Tom show the woman's song that one is not something we want to be playing we played it once that one is not something we want to be playing we played it once on a patreon you don't want to hear that one no you do not want to hear that one let's see if i did this right can you guys hear this favorite yeah musicians of all time okay it's a little quiet though it's a little quiet is there i know i can oh no i can't turn her up um it's just as fucking mixed. This happens all the time. Nolan doesn't have his shit cranked up.

Well, he will probably be loud enough, but he's got turned down, you know, and we don't have to worry about Royce talking that much with Michael here. Royce doesn't. Michael doesn't let people talk that often. His blues bass guitar playing, and he got into a little bit of a more um he got a little bit away from the blues at times come on let michael talk boys come on i didn't have a problem with it uh he's so iconic i know you're a big fan too michael oh yeah oh yeah yeah i think uh eric clopton when i first of all for a solid decade and we're we're going back 50 plus years yeah we're always

going back yeah yeah you don't have to say that it's understood when we're watching your videos that we're going back 50 plus years you're in a state of arrested development musically sir i mean if you if if if this if youtube existed in 1963 or let's say 1970 this is what the room his room wouldn't be any different oh yeah it would be it would look the exact same and his hair line would be a little bit different he's got the big swoops he's got long hair and then it's like on the side he's got those big hair caves that you could fucking camp under you know so that might like like his hair might be a little fuller but he would essentially look the same as well we're gonna come back he's like uh he's like he's really preserved from like a different era of guy

it's really impressive he's like he is finding a mummified version of the guy who picked his girlfriend up from high school in the 70s yeah well there you go totally yeah he fucking have been fought so episode two was when i found michael nolan of guys and now we're up in the 40s and it's like i can't get enough of the guy because i can't imagine and we're gonna hear a lot of that on this episode too anybody who's spent time in like sort of musicians circles and stuff like that knows that like they really care a lot they're fighting each other basically over who's rated who's overrated and stuff like that they take it really seriously and i said this online the other day i can't imagine being mad because somebody said aerosmith. I can never sit around and be like, what the fuck is wrong with you?

Aerosmith sucks great. But I don't, I guess that, I suppose I agree with you there, but then again, I think about it. If someone says a movie is bad, like I'm a big movie head, and if someone says a movie is bad, I would never post about it.

I wouldn't go reply to them, but in my head, I'm like, fuck you. Like, fuck you, you piece of shit. That movie is awesome, and it makes me really mad it makes me really mad really when anyone says anything negative about any movie so i kind of i guess i understand a bit um let's start out with uh our guitar with user wolf puppy who is that okay i thought that was i'm thinking wolf mother that was a real guitar that was a bad right yeah um well this is about gear and he says i have a bit of an addiction to plectrums those are picks right who says plectrums guitar guys guitar guys do if i was like at like like

at a show with my band and i said plectrum everybody would make fun of me okay so how what percentage of them know what a plectrum is they would probably all know what it is um but they would think you're doing like a you're being goofy or silly or like it's got it's got it almost like oh let me go grab it out of my automotive kind of vibe totally yeah absolutely like a like a from a different time almost but also just like trying to sound like you're really knowledgeable about something. Yeah. So just to be clear, so Amber, you play in a band, you are, you're a musician, you do you play guitar in the band? I play guitar and I play bass. I've been in a couple bands, I put a couple albums out with a band called Downtrotter, I was in a band called Solarized, I'm in a band called Nothing Wrong Now. out with a band called downtrodder i was in a band called solarized i'm in a band called nothing wrong now and i've like you know done the touring circuit and all that so i'm not without i'm

immersed in this world to a degree what kind what kind of what would you say is like if you had to say a genre of music that you predominantly play uh i've predominantly been in like punk hardcore and metal bands cool Cool. Okay, sweet. So very much guitar-based. Oh, yeah. Very. A lot of guitar-based stuff. Yeah.

When I was reached out like, oh, we want you for guitar guys. I was like, ah, I'm incredibly qualified. I've been around so many guitar guys. And so just to be clear, with all of that knowledge and all of that experience and stuff, you still would never even dream of calling it a plectrum. No, absolutely not. If anything, the experience would discourage me from saying that. I just wanted to clarify.

You don't have to be 60 years old. You know what I mean? It's really guitar teacher core to say. Yeah, well, he goes, I have a bit of an addiction to plectrums and he goes i fell down the plectrum rabbit hole and i don't even know how i got started a few months ago and i'm closing in on about 800 dollars in various good lord a pack of picks is like a couple bucks yeah that's what you reference you have to have a lot yeah because you'd have to he has a lot of them then well the really high-end boutique

ones could cost close to 100 each oh so he's going he's looking to get ripped off he's interested in being ripped off he doesn't like his money he thinks he has too much of it and he's looking to give it to someone else for nothing i understand yeah this is some real like let me make it clear i'm a mark yeah let me start off my story that way stupid idiot i will pay 100 for the smallest piece of plastic you know and and the thing is i started looking them up to see if there's one that i could maybe buy and check out what the difference is i only got to 35 and i was like i better hold on i have a pic in my bedroom uh that came with the corn shoes and it's like kind of a metal thing so it's pretty cool corn shoes you got corn shoes in the corn adidas shoes oh my god corn adidas shirt

please dm me a picture of these after we're done this i will i will thank you okay uh so he goes uh that are close to a hundred dollars each made with engineering grade thermoplastics used for spaceships he's like he's quoting the like sales pitch that ripped him off you know what i mean like he's like just reading it out like these how does the guy that says plectrums also say spaceships yeah that that is that is really wild to just be posting this i've paid 100 for thermoplastic spaceship it's so extremely like dumb guy's idea of what like high engineering looks like yeah it's like it goes to space which means it's good yeah spaceship is the funniest word i i just i've never heard an adult say oh look you know the spaceship's taken off today the different shapes gauges bevels materials etc all affect

all affect feel some people collect pedals and i collect pics so a question for you amber is that do you find is there some truth to that that like different plectrums uh have a different feel and they would affect your playing to a degree yes there's like different weights and different materials of them and most people like after like maybe a year of playing guitar settle on like okay this is the most comfortable one for me gotcha yeah for me it would be thermoplastic yeah exactly for me it's the $100 one that they use on the spaceships. For me, it's the one where they cut a little hole out of the spaceship wall and turned it into a plectrum. Yeah, exactly.

They actually make them up in the International Space Station. They make them, yeah. It's expensive. It's all shipping. Yeah, the shipping is outrageous. It actually only costs $2. Shipping is $98. yeah the shipping is outrageous it actually only cost two bucks shipping is 98 um so few responses to this and the guy goes uh sy lj he goes i have a nice collection from places i visited normal

that's normal that's totally normal similar to like collecting bought you know like uh postcards or whatever you know just yeah this is like a normal guy's version of this guy it's like oh yeah memories of places you've been totally normal he's like i grabbed some of their store picks i have a rock and roll hall of fame one i know somebody would not be happy with that well yeah that rock and roll hall of fame one's bullshit it's interesting they sell picks there when they just let people in who don't even play the fucking guitar that's true sorry sorry amber it's just my friend michael it's a big gripe he has about the rock and roll hall of fame um he goes i got i have one for the rock and roll hall of fame rock and roller coaster from 90s band picks people have given me picks made of materials that are useless for playing

guitar glass for instance it's a fun hobby i didn't realize that you could get a rock and roller coaster pick. You guys don't know that's the Aerosmith roller coaster in Disney World? Oh, no, I did not know that. Yeah, that's what that is. Have you ever looked at the list of songs that Aerosmith roller coaster? Because one of them, they released an album around the time of the rock and roller coaster. So they wanted to put one of the singles from the new album so you can pick like all their hits and then this one song that nobody's ever

heard uh wolf puppy says uh he's the original poster he goes i have around 300 worth of pics sitting in the shopping cart for a few days now but i haven't pulled the trigger yet these guys are audiophile guys like music people are such audio like they will just spend all the money in the world i was just thinking that this has huge audiophile guy energy yeah this guy might this guy seems like maybe he has some of those crystals or whatever that you put on your chords what are those things that this guy's absolutely got like gold plated ends uh yeah like fourth inch cables for his guitars and thinks that it does something to the sound have you heard of the crystals have you

heard of the crystals no i have not uh brian are they called crystals what are they what is that what they are you mean the pebbles are you talking pebbles they're they're pebbles and they come in little bags and you tape them to your cords on your radio and it does make your it a lot of people have said it makes it sound great it's it's very noticeable these pebbles that you put on there this is a real thing that they sell on these audio are very they're very cool it's so cool they make crystal healing for guys there are two kinds of guitarists those that never lose picks and those that do that all the time i'm the latter oh well it is an listen it's an easy thing to lose one of the easiest things to lose you know out of anything it's so tiny yeah to be clear that the second like the two kinds of

guys he outlined there the second one he loses picks all the time that's the normal guy that's the standard that was like is like 95 percent of people who play guitars well this guy is justifying and another guy is justifying he bought a pretty expensive pick and this is the last pick guy he goes i normally so he talks about first guy says i need a new bag every three weeks or so and then a guy responds i normally am as well but it's easier to keep track of this plectrum because of its size and the knowledge that it is more expensive it stays in the same spot on top of my amp head at home and it's the first thing in my guitar case to and from band practice so this guy has a very expensive plectrum that he has decided he will never use and the thing that people understand about people who buy expensive

things is that they always say they're never going to lose them and they always say they aren't going to mess them up and guess what they do i am i definitely have experience with oh yeah how big is this plectrum he said because of the size you, like he's got a big giant oversized one. Yeah. What does that mean? I don't know. But also I do. I understand his rationale here. This does make sense from like I with sunglasses. This is what I would do with sunglasses. I had the same sort of thing where I would buy these sunglasses that were kind of cheap and I wouldn't look after them. And I end up replacing them all the time.

And it cost me more money. And I'm buying an expensive pair that I took care of and paid attention to and they've lasted me for a really long time. So I do understand that. Well, let's go to the Ultimate Guitar Forums, which is a place where guitarists meet up and have been meeting up since like 2003. Oh yeah, I used to post on this when I was in high school.

Very cool, very cool. Every person that plays guitar on my timeline was like, you have to go to ultimate guitar forum. Yes, absolutely. Straight nine says I've been studying with my guitar idol. However, I started to feel like he's not a good teacher.

The guitar teachers always leave students to play on their own or stay with the whole time. So this guy, this guy's guy's like hey all right so start playing in a gata devita and then he like goes to the store and coffee or something i had a guitar so i don't talk about it much i tried to learn to play guitar for two months and uh i wish you gave it a good shot well i quit because he wouldn't i couldn't figure out how to play pantera songs that's what i went in like yeah i'd really like to play some pantera you know and he's like well you're gonna have to learn these scales and stuff

and i'm like can't you just teach me the scales that you would need to learn to play pantera god so this guy you're telling me this fucking this piece of shit was trying to give you the actual fundamental knowledge you needed to to be a decent guitar player and do the things you wanted to do wow fuck him in my in my mind in my mind i thought like well if he teaches me how to play a riff that would sound like pantera then i can move that stuff around and play a riff that is kind of like pantera but my own thing is what i thought safe to say you wanted you wanted the accolades and you didn't want to put in the work absolutely not absolutely i am not i i mean i had a guitar and ibanez ax um i had a guitar for a while and I gave it, and this is the worst thing.

This is the craziest thing. So my, my brother-in-law was like 12 or something and I had the guitar and he's like, I'd like to kind of learn how to play guitar. And I was like, you can have it kid, but you're, you know, never going to learn, you know, your pet, his parents weren't gonna get him uh lessons or anything learned he still plays in bands now so i'm kind of jealous about that because i wanted to play guitar you know oh yeah you definitely can it's obviously easier with an instructor but i think there's a lot of people especially nowadays right you can

go online and watch youtube tutorial videos and you can learn how to play guitar without having a teacher. And even without those tutorials, I think there are people who can just pick it up, you know, they can watch other people doing it and pick up what's happening and read mute, learn how to read music or whatever. Yeah. I learned a lot of what I learned was from guitar tabs and ultimate guitar, honestly. Yeah. Yeah. I learned how to do guitar guitar i learned how to play tabs and i did like i learned how to play killing in the name of uh nothing else matters which is very easy to play i mean it's all open things you don't have to use the other hand and i learned some uh i learned

part of a riff of a pantera song and i would get so mad at the guy that was like no i need to know the whole fucking riff i need to know the whole song and you gotta understand those songs have solos in them and everything it would be 10 years for me to learn imagine what this poor guy was thinking like he's just trying his best to impart some knowledge on you and you're a little stupid how old are you at this time uh 20 and oh oh i love because now i'm picturing the way you looked and everything too and the way you used to act and stuff and you were you were probably a real little shit you're probably you're probably coming in there all you're probably a little high possibly as well yeah yeah yeah i was probably high and it was i really would just go in there every week and be like teach me this death song

yeah just gotta learn so high teach me this song and he's like that's not how it works for the hundredth time yeah coming in like i need to learn this cold chamber riff right now right now because it's like in my head dude and i can't get it out he's like on acid or something if i could learn i got a pv triple x in my ibanez guitar here i'm ready to play some fucking cold chamber songs i'm ready to learn how to play loco i would learn how to play big truck okay i would have loved to have learned how to play big truck that would be a jam uh joe go go gone says i think if he leaves you to play on your own or talks the whole time that's bad i had teacher once who would let his roommates band jam in the living room while we did our lessons however i will also say that if you're not a beginner your teacher you absolutely

needs to be first and foremost somebody who's playing you really like that's the most important so i see so you have to respect their play that sort of makes sense you have to respect their abilities otherwise you're not going to really take their word yeah and you're going to pick up some part of their style learning from them yeah well amber i gotta ask you a question uh you ever played a 12 string guitar i've never played a 12 string now so just is this even lower notes no i don't know what that is it's every string is doubled um so the bottom three strings are doubled with a string that's an octave up and i think the top three are just doubled and so it gives like a kind of shimmery sound tom petty played one yeah but but so it doesn't give you additional, like, it doesn't change. It just gives you more sound.

Yes, it gives you, like, a more full sound. Gotcha. Okay. This guy goes, Matt's account says, 12-string owners, how much do you play your 12-string as opposed to 6? He goes, I've sort of fallen for a sweet 12-string, but it's pretty pricey, and I'm just not sure how much I'd use it. Guy responds and goes, the only difference is in expense

and maintenance is it has an extra six strings. That shouldn't affect how much he uses it unless you're lazy, I guess. So people had been saying it takes more maintenance on your 12 string guitar. And a guy responds and goes, on the internet, laziness is a prerequisite.

And then Chum Jumper says, I didn't mean to imply that the maintenance was related to how much it gets played. It won't get played much because it's a fairly niche sound and the instrument itself isn't very versatile and we got a reply that goes i regularly hear people on this website say they haven't changed their strings in years and are wondering if they have to or not so yeah laziness is going to be expected from these most of them spend more time on reddit than on their guitar oh these dads are so sassy yeah sounds like you gotta get those fingers off the keyboard and onto a fender strat all right stat well here's what makes these guys mad

and we'll get into some mad guys and then we'll maybe check in with noland again uh he goes uh who are your top five most overrated guitar players ever ah here we go time oh man this is gonna be a bloodbath i love this yeah because no matter who it was we all i mean this is a classic clickbait uh technique that publications use nowadays where they're like here's a list of the worst or the best or whatever just knowing that it's gonna make a bunch of people mad and post about it it's like blowing a horn that brings people that love to fight together you know what i mean it's like you you post what is the it's like you put like sky wrote everybody fight about so everybody that likes to fight

fight and they will show up national i was just gonna say one of the lists this year like worst movies of the year and they had asteroid city on there you know and it's like asteroid city was good you know it was a good movie and it was well received and everything but they just throw that on there knowing that's gonna give people all fucking fired up to start fighting so let's hear a little guitar fight here's a guy and and amber you're gonna really like these because the first one is a guy that says kirk hammett so that's from metallica yeah zach wild who's that from second guitarist from ozzy osbourne after randy roadside he's playing in pantera now too uh justin guitar well that seems i don't i don't know him but from the name i would say he's probably good like my guess is he invented the guitar no justin guitar

after him justin guitar is a guy that does lessons online that is really well thought of. Oh, I see. I see. Okay. And then John Frusciante. I know the name John. What's John Frusciante from? Red Hot Chili Peppers.

Oh, okay. Yeah. And the guy responds and says, you leave Justin out of this. Oh, I see. So that's a Justin stance. He's got his, he's got a shoot. Justin's got shooters.

Yes. Justin's got shooters. And to be fair, the you leave Justin out of this comment is like almost four times as upvoted as the original one and it's like kind of true too because it's like you're naming a bunch of very famous like uh you know people who are in bands and then you throw in this guitar teacher from youtube it just doesn't seem to fit you know yeah uh he goes seriously and he goes you leave justin out of this guy goes seriously that's like kicking santa and justin sanderco is a really good guitarist so uh guys i have to upgrade to pro i thought i was uh he goes uh this is funny this is funny everybody i just i want everyone

to know how funny this is please as you're listening. Brian, we're doing this on Zoom, and Brian has not paid for the premium. And so now it's just flashed up a thing saying that there's nine minutes left in the meeting. This is incredible. The Flubheads are having an absolute blast right now. I thought I signed up for Pro yeah i know that's that's known as a sign-up flub that's known as a that's known as a sign-up flub i i don't believe in that i don't know i have a question for you though brian do you think you're going to be able to fix this i don't know that that's going to happen if you sign up for pro is it going to

retroactively work for this particular call or are we going to have to? It says upgrade to pro right here. Yeah. Clicking it and it's not taking me anywhere. Oh, this is a real flub. Yeah, this is a massive flub. Well, I mean, it's not a big, what we'll do is when it gets, we, at least we see the timer and then when it gets down to it, you know, I'll start counting it down while you

guys are talking and then we'll end it and then we'll send another link and then we'll restart it. And then, you know, you can, you can maybe send a message to your old friend, Chris, and see if he wants to toss those together and make it an episode. Oh, wait, I think I got it. I think I got it. Oh, Amber, by the way way he often says that and he rarely has it i would consider just doing this on discord where you wouldn't have to pay for your call to be as long as you want no i know it's for gamers and that's cringe but the reason no no the reason is ember uh listen i i'm with you we could have this conversation the reason is because discord does

not record it okay yeah you're talking about if you if we were doing local recordings then you also have to get your guests to do a local recording and send it to you it's yeah a little more of them and then someone has to put it together after brian prefers to record it and then just be able to put it up which streamard is really good for that because it records each side. It does record each individual track. So it comes down to it. It allows you to adjust those and it's a little bit better audio wise than, than zoom, so it is, it does work fairly well for us generally.

That makes sense. We use a Zen caster to a similar end on my, uh, yeah, we've, we've used Zencastr actually when we had Chris Locke on because on their Evil Men podcast, they use it. So yeah, when we were having issues, we used Zencastr once ourselves. I think I'm-

Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. We just got a note. This meeting has been upgraded by the host and now includes more minutes, everyone. Give it up for Brian. All right. Now that might be, dare I say, the first ever flub fix. Yeah.

That is the first time we've ever had a flub and Brian actually fixed it and negated the flub, folks. We're going to have to go back. That was not a flub. They're calling him the Paul Gilbert of fixing flubs. Oh, we're going to go to, oh, hang on on you know that like clip like oh no no they're saying it didn't happen oh no oh wait they're saying he caught it oh no old man learns old man says uh seriously that's like kicking santa and justin sandico is a really good guitarist can you um can you show us the can you share the screen again?

It went away when you were being chastised for not signing up for pro. Well, yeah, I mean, it's so mean. Okay, so he goes Nashville hot pick and says, I beg to differ. Why doesn't he have any albums if he's such hot shit? So, okay, hang on a second. I mean, listen, that's not. Why doesn't he? Well well he doesn't need him he teaches guitar lessons on the internet i guess different things but i would just it does it is i guess i just don't identify with the a person who's like taking that art and being like all i

want to do with it is teach it i don't want to like do it myself or whatever I just don't sync up with that but I guess there are people like that right he just doesn't have any yeah okay I mean why I mean if you're a teacher because like the guy I had that was a teacher would be like you know I I he was like really into like Gangve Malmsteen and and those guys which we'll hit here in a few minutes. Oh, hell yeah. Yeah. I know him even. We get a reply that says,

if releasing albums makes you a hot shit, then you think Kirk Hammett, Zach Wilde, and John Frusciante are hot shits, right? That's what's called a false equivalency. Oh, but you don't like them, so there must be other things we can use to judge guitarists besides album releases. Maybe you can be a good guitarist who hasn't released an album spoiler you can also justin's band has

released three albums and he also released a solo album so oh wow okay so that guy that listen old man learns old man is very very sassy he is like a all-star message board all-star you know like that's known as false equivalency like he's fucking absolutely laying people out on this message board this guy's a real yeah this is like a classic guitar forum guy absolutely yeah he's been around for a long i mean his name old man learns old man he's an old guy he's probably been here since the start of the forum and he's like sort of this he sees himself as this all-knowing figure kind of you know well our friend nashville hot pick and does have a reply and he says uh holy fuck you're annoying yeah yeah yeah so that confirmed i think probably too that people know this

i'm sorry i offended your man crushes why do you even give two fucks who i believe is overrated suck justin some more so he said justin guitar off so he's basically saying if you love him so much why don't you fucking have sex with him and suck his cock which is like totally fair uh very mature thing to say he raises some good points he does raise some good points if you're like so obsessed with him why don't you have sex with him and suck his dick that sounds like the the swinger world would would totally agree with that right that's true and some of the people we know that's actually appropriate like hey if you if listen if you're such a fan of my wife why don't you eat her you know such a huge fan of tom suck him off why don't you suck him off for four hours because that's

how long it takes them to come i like this like implication it's like a swinger guy who's ended up in a non-swinger social situation but only has the social skills he built up there yeah anytime he hears anyone say anything good about somebody's like well you should at least be and sucking them then yeah well you got to be careful though around vanillas and in reality vanillas it's it can be a difficult thing to like oh I'm at a party with mainly Vanilla sometimes you have to wait till they leave before anything happens I love the idea of a guy who's trying to make it work in normal friend situations. Yeah.

Desperately trying to be normal. Oh, okay. So I guess we'll 69 now or? Oh, no, no, no, we won't. Oh, yeah. We'll just have some. We'll just watch. Keep watching.

All right, cool. The two worst people you can. There's like two things that you do not want to be called. They're basically slurs to me. Vanilla and single guy. Single guy, Amber. In the swingers community, in the sex club community, there is nothing more despicable than the single man. First off, they can only go into certain areas with a couple.

And as soon as the couple leaves that area they have to also leave and somebody comes and like shoes them out it's truly there's like all these different rules for single guys and shit because obviously they they would ruin it otherwise but there's like almost two sets of rules at every sex club one set of rules for the couples and one set of rules for the single guys oh yeah single women are the top of the they're known as unicorns genuinely and they are like the top best people in the you know in the lifestyle so it's very real treatment an old man learns old man says you have to believe me when i tell you i really really really don't that's how you can tell he took three reallys he typed out really three times that's how much he doesn't care you in fact began this by

begging to differ with me i only take offense at the lazy reasoning and the tinge of homophobia so i don't think it was a tinge of it yeah it was very damn it was quite overt he's telling you if you like him you should suck his god a kind machine is mad about a different person in this guy's list he says zach fucking wild overrated good grief and uh nashville hot pick and replies and says you must love you overused pinch harmonics um yeah he got him there i mean really did get him there yeah oh yeah we all we all know what that means and we all agree what's funny about this though is i posted that two guys were fighting you can look at this on twitter right now i posted that two guys were fighting over zach wilde one of the responses was like let me guess it's about overused pinch

harmonics okay so tell so let's let's for non-musicians what what does that mean to a lay person a pinch harmonic is a kind of sound you can do with a guitar you mostly hear in metal um badass probably and that is like uh probably and that is like uh yeah well we like that that's the what we're all looking for us later uh a kind machine says not really he did go all out with that shit but the guy is a phenomenal guitarist you just don't like his use of harmonics and that's why he makes your list well yeah well yeah that's how a list works yeah i don't like an element of his guitar playing and therefore find him to be overrated yeah yeah uh then nashville hot pick and let you know uh that the fake biker shtick the fact he wrote dime bags nuts pride and glory was awesome too bad he didn't make any more

southern rock albums so this guy might just like southern rock and he was wait wait i didn't he was writing dime bags nuts he did he rode dime bags nuts they might have sucked him fuck but wait a second yeah so what band was dime bag in again pantera pantera damage plan okay okay i got invited to that damage plan concert but i ended up having to work overtime so the damage plan concert yeah i had a buddy that got he got shot yeah because the tickets were not selling well so everybody had a couple of extra ones and a guy messaged me i was like you want to go see damage plan and i said uh yes and then uh i got stuck on a job at the cable company and uh couldn't go i i didn't get off work until like two hours late.

That's actually kind of wild to me, though, because I've heard you talk about your time at the cable company. You did not seem to be a good employee. You were often on pills. You crashed a car a lot of times. So did you ever consider just going to the concert? You could have saw a man die. Yeah, it was great. Was this before you were actively trying to get fired from the job yeah and it was a time where i was like a lead there was this small period of time where i was

a lead at the cable company because and i've said this before and i feel like this makes me look so bad but like people just wanted to be my friend there so they would like let me get away with all kinds of stuff and then my boss was just like you should be a lead yeah and i was like your boss who is also addicted to pills right different boss different boss okay so uh he goes uh so a kind machine says so you don't think he's overrated as much of a player you just don't like him and he nashville hot pick and says no his playing is overrated in my opinion i'm sure his legion of fans think differently well yeah so you don't think he's overrated as a player you just don't like him as a player no that's what it is to think someone's

overrated other people like him and you don't like him at the same level like yeah that's like what that means we'll come back to more uh arguments over overrated but something that people will know about the bourbon guys episode uh we have to hit this i think uh discussion wife says i have too many guitars ah yes oh this is a classic guitar guy just as a classic guy thing yeah this is not just guitar guys this is a thing that happens yeah bourbon guy just spending too much money on whatever the thing is you know and it's like you can imagine there's these situations where it's like a family and they're like you know they need extra money for some really important thing and it turns out the husband's spent 1400 on a bottle of

pappy van winkle and now they can't afford it. So yeah, very common. There's a few of these, but we're going to start with this one. The guy goes, I just count it. I have 15 guitars. My wife complained that I had three in the living room. So I moved all but one to the basement. Now I have a jam space and a happy wife. So your wife sounds pretty cool. Yeah. That's pretty good. Yeah yeah three in the living room is excessive it's a living room not a guitar room allowing you to leave one in the living room is pretty nice and yeah sounds like she had no problem with you jamming hey i'm really happy for you too seems like they really made it work yeah they did i love that seems like his wife doesn't know he has 12

more guitars though to me no she knows you know what i mean she's been down there i think they have a very happy marriage and this is this is the dream of a guitar guy to have you know a wife who's kind of like this like she can't fully embrace it what about i mean because it can't be your two your thing together with her that's not what these guitar guys want no they want it to be their thing yeah but she has to like allow you to do it you know like this it's like the audiophiles that were so excited that their wife like the guy that kept we read on the audio files guy episode that there was a guy who bought his wife these really expensive headphones and she didn't like them and she was sort of just sticking with the airpods

and he was like mad about it well you can't make her care about that this guy goes uh low-end penguin says buy all instruments in one color and she'll never know the difference so that's that's a nice thing that's kind of cool it's like that's like kind of old school just sort of like sort of old thinking about you know gender roles that's wild yeah that's yeah it's just like listen you know women they just care about decorating and how the place looks and like so if you just put them all in one color then and that one's got 77 up votes by the way oh yeah our guys are like oh you know it you know how women be as long as you're financially sufficient in your hobby

wife should mind her business lol yeah well i don't know whatever i guess people have a different idea of marriage but some people would say that your business becomes shared yes well you should respond by telling her you have too many wives says harlow when that's funny that's probably gonna go well yeah well the divorced guitar guy is like another genre of guitar guy because the ultimate top guitar guy is divorced because he has too many guitars like oh yeah oh yeah he's the king on the throne yeah his his wife was accepting of it but he just like pushed it so far that it was like too much for anybody to deal with you know that's why there's so many like like not just guitar guys but like famous rock guys if you're like i wonder what so-and-so

from metal band from the 80s is doing it's i guarantee you it's like he's got a wife that's like 20 years younger than him and she's got like a rat tattoo met her at a show was like oh it's just you know we just she's a really old soul i love her and really what it is is like they get divorced the first time and they're like i need to find someone enamored enough with me to tolerate the amount of guitars i have in my home absolutely i need somebody who will just let me buy a hundred guitars on a whim here's a really good bit of advice for material landscapes he goes uh you could say it could be worse some hobbies are expensive i have by the way guitars are very guitars are expensive to be clear yeah like to buy buying a lot of them very expensive i have

co-workers with 100 000 trucks even more expensive boats for fishing an rv what's a few thousand in guitars compared to all that worked for me uh well yeah okay well yeah you could just say to your wife like um jeff bezos has like a freaking yacht and you're worried about me buying 75 guitars at a thousand dollars a piece yeah and the thing is even if like you're a real tone head right you could probably get just about every sound you want out of a guitar with like maybe four maybe five if you want acoustic in there i remember i saw weezer like for the green album tour it was weezer and tenacious d and rivers cuomo had switching guitars through the whole fucking thing like he literally between every song would have somebody bring him another guitar i was like there's no way

no fucking possible way that's necessary and yeah probably a little bit for show a little bit kind of a cool yeah it depends there's gonna be a couple reasons it's like maybe they're in different tunings i feel like for weezer that's probably not the case that would make sense that's like the legitimate reason is like that and i was in band with a guitarist who would bring two guitars to every show in case one got messed up um yeah and that those make sense but once you get past that it starts to be like the tunings make sense if you're playing a concert you're playing a concert you're not going to sit there and just tune your guitar you know well i have been to a concert once you guys know the brian jonestown massacre i do yeah so i i used to be a huge fan

of the bjm and i went to a concert once where they were drinking um out of full finlandia bottles of vodka like they were just drinking out of the bottles and finished them and by the concert went on for three and a half hours and by the end of it they were tuning their guitars between songs and taking like 30 minutes or so to do it as they were just kind of and yeah so i would have said it would have been probably better for them in that instance if they had a guitar that was you know pre- pre-done for them. Yeah, like Sonic Youth used to tour with like a dozen guitars because every song has some stupid tuning that they made up. Well, my wife was there too, and she got really bothered

because in between every song, Rivers yelled at the guitar tech because the guitars weren't set up the right way or didn't get out of there on time. And it's like, you know what, what motherfucker if you got 15 guitars on stage you can't like expect everything to be perfect and and and it's superfluous you don't need that many for sure you don't not weezer yeah not rivers either is he's a rhythm guitar he doesn't even need to fucking switch guitars uh this guy says tell her she has too many shoes yep women do be shopping for shoes women love shoes and then love shoes and they're probably

all the same color too the best part is like this is literally a thread about how men be shopping it is it is I like this guy this guy is my favorite comment he goes a string reaper says it's probably an underhanded comment on your playing she's probably got a problem with the plectrum you're using yeah like honestly like yeah if it was a little crisper and you were you know that i think she would be fine with you spending all of the fucking family money on guitars money it's probably because you suck at playing guitar sir yeah she's like she's like oh yeah spend our retirement fund as long a fund as long as you can fucking hit the notes and as long as you can fucking play the song correctly gibson maestro says a while back someone was able to trick his wife by buying similar looking guitars uh Reply goes, oh, that's brilliant.

Why is that brilliant? Why would you then, why would you, wouldn't the idea of having different guitars be that they would look different and be different? Maybe the look doesn't matter. Amber, I mean, you do a type of music where the look matters. But on some things, I understand that. But if you're buying so many guitars, you're just going to buy a bunch of them that all look the same. I get the only thing I can think of is that you want like different pickup configurations in them. It's like, OK, I want this to have a humbucker.

I want this to have single coils. I want this to have P90s. And those all do have like slightly different sounds. Not enough that I would say it'd be worth buying a whole bunch of guitars that look exactly the same for them. But that is one thing i can think of do you have to trick your wife though i do not have to trick my wife x372 says just make sure to get new gear when she's at work took a few months for her to realize there were a couple more cases so you guys don't share finances am i awake or says in my situation

i'm allowed to own one for each day of the week there may or may not be an eighth guitar hiding in the guest bedroom closet in a quote empty case so so you're lying to your wife yeah so that's cool you're hiding stuff from your wife like some sort of a addict yeah exactly yeah very cool very good behavior it sounds like uh things are going well that's not the only running the cheating on your wife playbook so that you can buy more guitars that's right that's so funny she's like cheating on me and it's like no he's just buying guitars yeah he's at the guitar he's at guitar center she follows him like thinking he's gonna be going to some woman's house and he ends up going to guitar center so anyone have issues with your spouse there's another question goes there was

just in general that that we found in these forums that for whatever reason there's a lot of marital issues let's talk through this is this is the bourbon guy this is the same thing the bourbon guys were doing he goes there was a post earlier today about a guy who had his new guitar mailed to his office because of his wife resulting in people telling similar stories this is quite personal so maybe not everyone wants to share their experience but how many people on this subreddit do have a spouse that has a problem with you owning slash playing guitar? Maybe also buying new equipment. Quote, stop buying that stuff. It's a waste of money. Maybe also disliking the way you play.

Well, you suck at this. Just stop making noise or even hates the music you make slash cover because of different taste of music. I've never had such an experience i'm single at the moment but i never had such an experience i've never felt the touch of a woman i'm single at the moment but my ex loved when i played and she even started playing guitar herself so we could play together we had the same taste of music she used to look up stuff i could practice and she always gave feedback on how it sounded what she didn't like etc that was an incredible just dunk he did on these guys he like set them up so you know all our wives all hate that we play

guitar and they hate that we spend money on it they don't like our music well not me because my wife kicks ass yeah well to be clear though this is his ex so something something happened he is i don't know if he even mentions it but something broken out what does he say at the end of it doesn't say anything he just says uh he he just says that actually i really was that naive to think it's totally normal to have a supportive spouse who would try to help tolerate the passion that's the conclusion and this guy also it sounds to me like he's just a lot of this as well as he's like he wishes he was still in that relationship oh yeah oh he's still in love with that woman i mean that woman that woman in my opinion if that woman saw this post she should be concerned. I think that he might have like, you know, he might be obsessed or whatever.

Maybe a little. And he goes, today I learned that's not always the case. I wonder how many of you actually have issues and how do you cope with it in general? Ruckus answers and says, my wife doesn't understand that there's a difference between quality and guitars. They don't look any different. So what makes that Strat copy different than a custom shop she owns several straighteners of different quality but says my guitars all sound the same anyway wait straighteners hair i think it's hair straight that's my yeah that's all i can think of that can't be comparable

i mean the price wise it's definitely not can't be right i mean it can't be that that's the only thing you could pull out was that she has a couple different straight what that does 200 bucks no not even a bunch of them yeah come on man this is right now he's really reaching here you have a chance the guy goes uh you have a chance between a store brand straightener and a really nice name brand straightener which one is better that's how oh i see so yeah just explain explain to her in terms of something she can understand hair straightener yeah yeah just explain to her like this stuff is so like massage is that yeah look babe when you're buying tampons is it like the store brand tampon or is it like yeah when know when you're buying your

pots and pans for cooking you know what kind of a vacuum cleaner did you actually buy when we got one you know exactly all right here's what the dyson or do you want like yeah we're gonna read a big fight here and amber i think you'll like this because i think this guy is uh uh i think these guys might be opposite from from you because this is a very non-punk guitar and this was the guitar i wanted growing up i saw this the name of this one when you scrolled by earlier and i've been waiting for it i i was googling the info that i needed to refresh myself i am ready for this one this is this is for all the guitar heads out there because this was the guitar I wanted

when I was playing, but they're like three grand, you know? He goes, Am I crazy or is Paul Reed Smith overrated? Okay, so today I walked into the Sam Ash. I sit down. I want to get a new edition of my guitar collection. I decide, you know what, PRS?

I hear a lot of good things about them. So I take a PRS SE single cut down. Then I play some licks of various genres, metal, blues, classic rock, jazz. I did not like it at all. The quote tone was not nearly as good as what I have read about or heard about in the shops. I ended up going home with an Ibanez Prestige. Listen, I would have done the same thing. I love it. Get one now. So PRS is overrated.

Did I get a defective guitar? I played this out of a Sirius amp, H&K, brand new. So I know it wasn't the amp. What is your insight? It's spelled I-N-S-I-T-E. And he also said defected guitar. So this guy seems like he might be a bit of a dumb dummy he's flubber okay so chris the paul reed smith guitar is handmade and they are very fucking expensive and oh yeah they're considered right amber like the basically the best i i think a lot of people consider them the best

you can buy i think a lot of people argue against that too because of the price who plays them i find them a little tacky personally oh really but they sound great like you can get a nice tone out of them and everything i find them to be uh they all have that like not all of them but they all have a very like flamed maple real guitar guy type finish to them they got like birds on the inlays it's like it's some real like my dad loves prs these are electric guitars right yes i'll show you one chris you'll recognize it when you see it so okay yeah yeah yeah yeah they are ugly so ugly there's only there's there's the prs uh starla which is the only one that i think looks good because it looks like a gibson or something yeah so i could see playing one of those so he actually this guy yeah yeah that one does that one does have a better look to it definitely

so this guy played the mass-produced version of the paul reed smith which is the se and that costs like 600 bucks it's just one like it that costs like 600 bucks. It's just one, like it's not in the prestige brands. It's just one for people who want a Paul Reed Smith. Yeah. And that's common for these brands, like to have a high end. It's like Fender has Squire and that's their cheaper one. Gibson has Epiphone and ESP has LTD and PRS has PRS SE apparently. Well, the people in Ultimate Guitar Forum were not happy with this post. It did not thrill them. He goes, play a real PRS, not an SE, then revise your statement.

Revise your statement. Sir. How dare you? Revise that statement. HDAP 101 says Paul Reed Smith se equals okay medium budget guitar quite nice not great but okay prs standard worth every penny i'm currently saving one over the gibson fender and fernandez i was originally considering so yes you are crazy for making judgments of a very respectable brand based on their se model so this guy this guy is dumb because he thought he was playing the

real deal shit but he was playing the the bums version right yes that was correct somebody sent him different guitars that he could look at i and we wouldn't know that i mean a mirror electric guitar with burden lays on wide thin neck a custom 24 there's pop 10 guitar the cardi hollow body yeah and he goes uh the guy responds that this is suggestions for this guy that originally started this thread and he's responding to these suggestions all of these are significantly overpriced for thousands of dollars i don't think so to me prs will not become respected by me until they become more reasonable with the prices. Sure, they'll be made by hand and all that shit,

but come on, it's a guitar. And for me and many other guitarists, I have rent to pay. To me, Schecter, Ibanez, and ESP are the top, but that just may be because of my type of music. That's interesting considering this guy was like, oh, I've been played some blues and jazz licks and then his top three are like all brands i would consider to be like heavy metal

brands yeah yeah yeah yeah all the ones he said are straight up like schecter was one i was gonna buy they do like flying v's i think maybe i don't know they do like the the pointy he basically wants to play all the most pointy guitars yeah he wants to play jazz on pointy i would call those like the respectable spread of metal guitars uh as opposed to like uh oh man someone's gonna kill me for this but like you're bc rich yeah because you're like not respectable metal guitar uh neb g says uh less money equals less quality could have i could not agree with him more on that and he goes if you want to shit guitar spend less money on guitars that's and if i go get a guitar now we all know how i'm gonna pick

i'm gonna go in there i'm gonna walk up to the first salesman i see and say point me to the most expensive guitar here what did you say you're gonna what no when i go into the store i don't fucking pick a guitar i plectrum a guitar thank you very much yes otm80 says here's a fun fact that three thousand dollar prs you considered overpriced will never lose its value your ibanez and schecters will drop like a rock play what you come forward. That's cool. I'm not knocking you down. Some deals are better than others,

but in the end you get what you pay for. Everyone knows that the Schechter loses half its fucking value. As soon as you drive it off the lot, everybody knows that. Well, here's an interesting take on this though, from Dirk gently. We live in a country with a mostly capitalist economy,

meaning generally... The rest of the sentence really goes off. One second here. I just got to get my pen out here. This is interesting. I'm Googling capitalism right now. It seems to me as if he's correct. This post is by a Mr. Karl Marx.

Oh, interesting. me as if he's correct this post is uh by a mr carl marx oh interesting it's very funny that it's a guy's bringing up capitalism i love it we live in a country with a mostly capitalist economy meaning generally speaking things are worth what people will pay for them guitars are commodities like cars sometimes the exclusivity is part of the attraction there's a guy on this site who i haven't seen in a while who has two guitars that are worth almost ten thousand dollars each not to mention several other guitars worth thousands each just because you personally can't afford something or don't want to pay that much for it doesn't mean it's overpriced uh this guy responds metal militia says it may not be your type of music but that doesn't mean it's overrated you stupid asshole this is this is ultimate guitar all right relax under this

some people actually get these things they're called jobs these jobs bring a steady source of income now considering the person said job isn't a dipshit uh and knows how to make money how to save money how to make money, how to save money, how to save money within a few months, that person will be able to buy a $3,000 PRS, which will over the years gain more and more value. Well, it's more value.

That's what they're saying. If you buy a high end guitar and you keep it in good condition, it'll gain value over time. Yes. Really? That's cool. Yeah. Like a vintage instruments is like a totally like a

market so so how long how much time are we talking do you know what i mean like is it only like for old older stuff or is it like something 10 years ago this guy takes 10 years like yeah 20 years okay 10 10 you may maybe a little bit but definitely like 20 you'll start to see some value in it that's cool uh and then here's here's our last response from this guy goes how about you ponder upon this i have to work i have to pay rent and i don't live in my mom's basement so i have a lot of shit to pay for okay that's a basement shout on my channel anyas my prank channel whenever somebody mentions the mom's basement we have a special ding ding ding it's called a basement shout i'm a guitarist talking

to guitarists in a civil manner if this is too much for you get off the internet please and i'll play what i can afford not what my daddy buys for me sorry we don't have the daddy's daddy's money mom's basement combo i know i've never heard daddy i don't think i've heard daddy's money since. Cause you can't, cause I think you're supposed to make fun of people for being poor too. Yeah. You know what I mean? So it's really hard to say daddy's money and make fun of it.

Last thing we're going to do here is anyone else think that John Mayer is a severely overrated guitarist. Do you guys think? I don't know. I don't, I don't know how, how well, how high he's rated. Very. I guess he is considered to be good. I think he's just pretty average as far as I can tell. He's technically proficient,

but I wouldn't say you really hear it in his music. Yeah, he's one of those guys that like... Well, I think we'll get a little explanation and go the guy goes i'm ping-ponging off the other gary clark jr overrated thread from another poster today and i just thought i'd try to get another overrated thread going because i was having so much fun on this other overrated thread screaming at each other me and me and the guys were having so much fun screaming at each other and before any john mayer fans lob my head off i do think john is an artist and he's written popular songs many love but as a technical hendrick hendricks ask future hall of fame

guitar genius oh he's getting in the rock and roll hall of fame i'll take that right now uh some neo fights already make him out to be just because he can improvise some simple blues melodies i have to facepalm myself that's just my opinion i'd like to hear from others in the gallery on this topic so first off sir i think you will find that you meant lop and not law okay i didn't know what lob was actually it's lop off my head like it's cut off their head so he lob is to lob something up so he's just used the wrong word there well the first reply is from blues noodler which i guess this guy probably likes john mayer yeah i think people i think people in guitar forums like to whine about him because he's rich famous

fucks hollywood starlets and plays better guitar than they do oh shit yeah sorry i think you got a problem because of all the babes he hooks up with a new babes guy yeah sorry he gets so many freaking hot babes you're so jealous of them famous babes uh guy replies and says i think people want to suck john mayer's dick like the warship and fucks hollywood starlets yeah well i mean let's be guys are all sucking each other off on here so much sucking off in the guitar world the insinuation here is very very disgusting too and i hope you guys will allow me to be disgusting for a moment do you guys mind i love it all okay so i will i think the insinuation here is that they you would suck his dick and it would possibly still have some famous starlets pussy juice on it did you say a double deuce a double doozy oh i thought you were saying

you were giving a grease oh no i didn't i should have gotten grease daddy do you know do you know the grease man i didn't know the grease man oh you don't know you should check him out he's a such a talented man uh an old radio an old radio dj who was uh fired for extreme racism in the 1990s twice i just assume that when i hear something through brian like it's like oh have you ever heard of you know jimmy fuck and it's like okay is he like a radio host that was banned for racism basically all of my uh expertise is in guys that got fired for racism also no we haven't discussed we have a alarming expertise in sex clubs now because of all the sex club tours we've watched where it's like we just know everything about the the lifestyle and all of it that is true that's

an alarming thing though infinite ad says he's outrageously overrated and people who can't play fawn over him to look like they know what they're talking about like everyone in these comments there it is final word well joe bonamassa did a video called the heart that never waits um i watched this and listened to it it was not good that's joe bonamassa ever heard of joe bonamassa chris i haven't this has a 1.7 million views though yeah dads love this guy. This guy. I have a Joe Bonamassa shirt that my dad got me. I've never even listened to him. So what was he like in a band before or.

He was like a former child blues prodigy. Ah. And so he plays blues. Yes. Yeah. But. He plays like Stevie Ray Vaughan. Okay. Blues rock. Yeah. Dads love Stevie Ray Vaughan.

They do. He plays the white guy blues. Oh, yeah. You would be on a Goldwing motorcycle and listening to this after life is a highway. He's not like a blues blues guy.

Dads love him. I just thought I'd read a couple of his replies to the heart that never waits first guy goes amazing example of why joe is one of the top goats that solo playing was just out of this world christopher says uh easy now he's a great guitar player subpar singer not in the top goats easy now hey you don't want him in the top let's calm down he's not top goat status yet he's a good player he's got the top goat status i think uh he goes easy now yourself he's a genius first class he is beyond category so beyond category

and then the last guy goes don't forget about stevie ray faul just in general to be clear nobody who is listening to joe has even for a moment ever forgotten about stevie ray faul yeah well he's next on the playlist right after yeah i i i think on guys plus we're we're gonna listen to some joe bonamassa and uh also that that nolan video that we didn't get to because we're having too much fun goofing on guitar players me and chris will goof on the nolan video on guys plus i'm sure um yeah that's that is guitar guys oh there is more joe bonamassa, if you're up for a little bit more. Okay, sure. Well, let's check a little bit more. I just wanted to mention as well, because this is Guitar Guys episode, the best guitar player I ever saw play live.

Maybe you guys is a guy by the name of Derek Trucks. Yes, he's a big popular. I've never heard him. But they played in the Allman Brothers band for like the reincarnation of it because he's a nephew of like the allman brothers drummer or something like that um i think he played with clapton as well on tour and stuff but i i he was the only person i've seen live play where i was like mesmerized by his guitar playing are you a fan of the allman brothers no i don't know i mean i listened to this but i wasn't like a big fan. No, I got my younger brother is a guitar player and played in rock bands and stuff. And so he got me into Derek Trucks. Well, let's check into Joe Bonamassa.

Hey, drunken heart surgeon says, I don't think I've seen it around here too much, but I've heard tell of many folks hating on Joe Bonamassa. I've only recently become aware of his music. And personally, it sounds like world-class blues to me what exactly does he catch up for it's basically world-class blues i'm not sure what else you would want i don't think in real life ever i've heard somebody say world-class to describe a piece of art or something like i've also never heard of the guy joe bonham

awesome oh you've loved it it's quite incredible to me he's great you've heard stevie ray vaughn yeah he's like that very goaded very goaded goaded higher and that's the thing uh no employment 77 20 goes he wears shades and armani suits he hasn't really got true background for blues poor little rich boy blues he's right in line with today's gop i mean you kind of cooked him there honestly let's turn it political let's get this argument political yes well hand sewn 77 777 says and this is going to be a new guy's insult, I think, that's going to come up. Are bedroom guitarists always this jealous and hateful bunch? Whoa, bedroom guitarists. Yeah, why don't you play with your little guitar?

Play with yourself in your bedroom on your little guitar while the big boys get out there on stage. Very cool insult. He's got more experience in his little finger than this whole thread will ever have and anybody you seen some of the fucking babes he gets can't about it we get he'll never be one of the greats name one original guitar song from joe that has the same effect as voodoo child pride and joy whole lot of love smoke on the water seven nation army my point is that the guy doesn't have one recognizable riff lmao and his fan dads think he's the greatest ever i don't think he plays riff based music does he he'll never get there 100 i do like fan dads

one fan like fan girls yeah that's actually really good it's really good and it's yeah pretty appropriate here isn't it this next guy goes they are truly pathetic bunch in here judging one of the greatest blues players of the last few generations uh here's another guy that does not like him and he's going to explain because he's a dorky white boy who's probably never had any real hardship in his life playing the blues, the suits, the sunglasses, and goddamn if he doesn't have incredibly punchable face. The multi-million dollar rigs, it's so unbearably ostentatious. He's incredibly talented, no doubt about it, but his music is so laughably trite. His voice sounds like Kermit the Frog. He's more

of a circus act than a musician musician if he plays in a band where he just did guitar solos and someone else wrote the riffs lyrics etc it'd be amazing first reply is uh jealous and you are racist so okay perfect perfect perfect that's a good i think that's that's a good one to end there's just there's another little fight here he goes uh hey suck on my 93 strat ultra kid and he goes uh this guy replies and goes you probably have plenty of practice sucking on it why are they all about sucking the guitar guys are all about like why don't you go suck we talked more about

sucking people off on here than we did the sex guys yeah it's outrageous how that's like their first that why don't you suck his dick like that's their first thing they go to and then it's like barely contained with these guys i know i well you know just two guys coming over to practice playing yeah one gets in a fight with the other one he's like don't fucking suck me off okay why don't you just why don't we just stop playing this damn guitar and just suck each other for crying out loud that is guitar guys amber tell people where to find you uh you can find me at twitch.tv slash bloodberry tart where i stream and i'm also on the uh sort of actual play turned radio play podcast skulltenders yes and chris i love you next week tentatively roller coaster guys relatively rollercoaster guys so yeah and probably hey check out my podcast is probably available now

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