Guys: With Bryan Quinby - Guys: Episode 53 - Rollercoaster Guys with Jason Sheridan

Episode Date: February 13, 2024

This week on Guys we have Jason Sheridan from Podcast: The Ride (https://www.patreon.com/podcasttheride) to talk about rollercoaster guys. Are you a thoosie or part of the GeePee? How many credits do... you have and how do you position your pelvis to prevent from being stapled? Find this and more on Rollercoaster Guys There is much more Chris at twitter.com/thecjs and of course https://www.patreon.com/notevenashow And for more Guys content, streams and SHOCKTOBER: a deep dive into shock jocks you can click patreon.com/murderxbryan twitter.com/murderxbryan and twitch.tv/murderxbryan

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to Guys, a podcast about guys. I am Brian, and my guest, my guest. Oh, wow. People love when the flubs come early. I mean, you could have just rolled with it. Mr. GP, I have to say Mr. GP, Chris James. Oh, I don't know what that one
Starting point is 00:00:38 means. General public. Us Thuzzies, we call ourselves Thuzzies and you're GPs. That's not that insulting yeah i am part of the general public so that's one of the last ones i appreciate though and i guess a lot of the flub heads are probably wondering right now like why didn't you just introduce the guest first and then roll back around that's what a real pro would have done there but you just kind of ate the flub right at the start i even had to take a minute and catch my breath for that one.
Starting point is 00:01:05 But we have this week the perfect guest for this episode. Jason Sheridan from Podcast The Ride. What's up, Jason? Hi, Brian. Hi, Chris. How are you doing? We're great. I'm feeling really good.
Starting point is 00:01:19 As a listener, it's very exciting to see an early flub in real time. I'm in great spirit that one of our great listeners uh put together what do you know then do you remember who it was brian i now i feel bad not accrediting them maybe maybe paisley fontaine um but created a sort of a scientific graph of a flub and that is one of the that's a true epic flub when it happens that early so well i let me come out right away and tell why that flub happened i had two things in my one of the most notorious flubbers in the history of no i had a thing in my mind that i was going to say about i had two things in my mind that i was gonna call you and i went with gp
Starting point is 00:02:06 and i knew i didn't really have a good way to get the gp and if i would have called you a credit whore it would have fucking been perfect you know what i mean yeah i don't know about that let's start your credit whore right at the beginning though welcome guys a podcast about guys i'm brian i have chris the credit whore james hi chris excuse me not that please don't use that kind of language please introduce me by my by my correct name chris the cunt yeah these are ride these are ride things you know uh jason are you a roller coaster guy because i know you're a theme park guy and i know there's a difference between those two things uh yeah i i believe there is a difference and i will i would say i'm a roller coaster guy i like coasters a lot um i pretty
Starting point is 00:02:54 much will do mostly any of them i don't really like the ones where you're kind of standing up because i am uh five one and that sort of like banana seat just sort of just destroys my genitals on those standing ones i need to ask you something jason do you count credits are you credit guy um do i count credit so this might be too i don't even know what that means for me you can't just ask that kind of question like none nobody knows what you're talking about nobody listening please explain brian well credits are how they count roller coasters now you don't count every time you ride a roller coaster you count the roller coaster once for your credit. So if you have a,
Starting point is 00:03:46 you'll have a list of credits and those are the roller coasters you have written, right? Jay, I'm not wrong about, but there are 800 ways to count them too. Yeah. I,
Starting point is 00:03:57 I have heard of that. I mean, I know like I, yeah, like it's a, it's a whole different world. like the coaster and like did you come across ace the american coaster enthusiast i didn't know i was on so i went to coasterforce.com which is a forum and then i went to there was another roller coaster forum and those people
Starting point is 00:04:22 were some of the nicest people in the world so i had to do what i do and i had to go to reddit and tripadvisor and google reviews to find the real freaks yeah uh reddit there's just something in the air in reddit it's like people joke now like oh reddit that's that's where you go to find actual answers to things because Google's just so fucked up nowadays. But then also on Reddit, people get really fired up regardless of the topic. Yeah, we found that definitely. Well, let's start out with a little bit of credit talk here. A guy, Marcus Graves, on our roller co um said credit coaster credits problem and my solution so
Starting point is 00:05:08 this guy is talking credits here and one of the big problems with credits is that there isn't a a way to count there isn't like a um way to verify it like like let's not verify there isn't a a it's honor system that we're, we're going off the honor system here. And like, Hey, I don't want to pass any judgment, but it's like a lot of the people we deal with, they're not always honorable. So I don't know if that's a great system.
Starting point is 00:05:35 I think maybe, yeah, there should be a thing where you, and it's not that hard to do. It's just every single roller coaster has to get on board with it. And they have some sort of a thing where they can stamp you with a certain thing or i mean people would find a way around it but that'd be smart at least you could do something well let me read this because i think you guys are going to get a lot of insight into what we're dealing with right now okay i'm sure this topic comes up a lot but i would like to talk about something I dislike about coaster credits. Firstly, I think coaster credits are a great idea.
Starting point is 00:06:11 It's a fun thing to collect and it's an interesting thing you can brag about, but I think that what qualifies as a credit should be a bit more strict. These rules I have for sure should be considered universal rules adopted by the coaster community so these rules there's not a universal rule chris that's a little strong to say though like so just his like he hasn't put him through a committee or anything he's just saying these are and they should for sure be adopted by everybody moving forward that's pretty bold that i i like this guy's uh you know his uh he's he's very confident this guy has very flavor is objective vibes to me like he's just like i'm part of the fucking coaster community i'm getting tired of there not being a universal
Starting point is 00:06:58 rules for coaster credits this is this is confusing to me because okay jason you could probably maybe help out a little bit here but like what what what could be up for debate here whether or not something is considered a coaster um i think it's it's kind of self-explanatory what would be considered a coaster yeah that's what i would think i guess i'm wondering what his issue is yeah all right here we go rule number one rule number one a single ride with multiple tracks that are identical should not be separate credits so if you get on a roller coaster there's two sides of it and they're the same that's one credit you can't count that as two well who is that like what who cares i'm sorry i know that it's like we could just say who cares a lot but like really who who cares there's a lot
Starting point is 00:07:54 of guys that care trust me like i get it caring about like i was what in the beginning it's like yes it is kind of a cool thing you know it's a collecting thing we've done all this and these are thrilling things that we've done and we can brag about them but really when you're getting this into the whole like oh if there's a dual split one then like what the fuck identical tracks duplicates should not be considered separate credits such as a vacoma boomerang and slc i don't know what those are i I know Vekoma makes. Vekoma is a manufacturer. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:26 As long as they have at least one significant element that is different, it should be a separate credit. So now you got two rides next to each other that are the same ride, but one of them has like an extra loop. Then they're like, that's two credits. You can count that as two if you rode both sides. But so does it exist where there's just identical ones is it just because so many people want to ride it so they build two identical ones so then that way for the crowds they can have more people riding like or i've never seen that listen i'm not a coaster guy i've gone to playland in vancouver where i live and i've i've rode the coaster there there's a famous old wooden coaster they have and there's
Starting point is 00:09:05 a few coasters there that i've rode for sure sorry crap bunch of crap how do you know because i live in america's roller coast i mean you guys you guys are big like i've never been to a six flags before you know we don't have those here. What do you guys have? We got the fucking big dogs here. What does that mean? Cedar Point and Kings Island. Two of the best. I've heard of Cedar Point before. I actually have.
Starting point is 00:09:36 I don't know in what context. 18 roller coasters. That's how you heard. Record-breaking roller coaster. I don't think that's how. Well, Brian uh just recently it was announced that cedar fair and six flags are merging i hope that means good for cedar point i really love that there is one ohio thing that we can be like now we're better than you at we're
Starting point is 00:09:58 better than all of you at this one thing and that's you yeah have you been to it right okay so here's my roller coasters journey okay when i was six i went to king's island with my uh aunt there was a cutout thing of scooby-doo where you could stick your head through a thing and it would look like you were hanging out with scooby-doo and it was right next to a ride called the beastie which is a small version of the beast which is the was one of the biggest roller coasters of all time and my aunt was like oh this is the scooby-doo ride and i was like okay oh no i love scooby-doo and i got on it and as soon as it started to go up that hill i have i've ridden like four roller coasters since i'm so scared of rides it's it's crazy how scared i am of rides like the last one i rode was called tomb
Starting point is 00:10:53 raider the ride at king's island which is in a building and you don't know what it is but on the inside of the building it is a ride that i would never ride outside like i would never yeah and i cursed and screamed and i thought we thought we were getting kicked out of the park because i was fucking screaming at people and somebody's laughing at me i was like fuck you and like i was so why are you wait why were you acting that way because i was fucking scared. Yeah, that was when Kings Island used to be owned by, it was a Paramount Park, Paramount, the movie studio. And they had the Hanna-Barbera licenses. That's why you saw Scooby-Doo. And later on, that's why you saw a Tomb Raider based ride.
Starting point is 00:11:40 But that ride would just be like, would flip. It was like a tomb and the whole thing would flip upside down or like it was so scary it yeah so it it's a little uh certainly seems unnerving with like explosions and water effects and fire effects and you're just constantly be slowly flipped upside down but i could handle it i bet i could handle it no problem i just realized that i have done i wouldn't gone to universal studios so i have actually there's there's coasters there as well you know like the um the mummy one is a coaster definitely and part of the harry potter there's a harry potter coaster and a few others yeah so i've definitely been on a few
Starting point is 00:12:23 coasters before now. And there's one thing that I will say, and it's like, you can go look this up online or try to verify it. I was never once scared. Oh, okay. Not even one time. Look it up listeners. Try to find me being scared. You'll never find it. The number three rule is multi-tracked rides with slight variations should not be separate credits. This will be a ride where two tracks run alongside each other, follow the same turns, but being on the inside of the given turn makes a turn slightly sharper than the turn on the outside,
Starting point is 00:12:52 thus making the track not identical, but practically identical. How many examples could there be of that? Is that like a common thing? That's what I'm saying. You guys who know this better, is this a common thing that happens? i'm saying is you guys who like know this better is this a common thing that happens well he gives an example okay jason's probably written actually an example would be the closed wacky soapbox racers at knott's berry farm where all
Starting point is 00:13:16 four tracks are currently listed as separate credits on coastercount.com give me a break fucking coaster counts got it all wrong here, and I'm normally a big supporter of them, but here they're absolutely flagrantly wrong. It's just despicable. Yeah, Wacky So Box Racers may have closed before I was born.
Starting point is 00:13:40 So this guy, this fucking guy's example is from something that was from 30 years ago it's the only example kind of a kind of a beloved ride out here kind of a beloved ride in the history of knots but yeah i sort of don't understand like multiple coasters for various reasons will have like okay you board on the left side you board on the right side and it's sort of a mix of like all right we have a lot of rooms so we can build two tracks or it's a racing coaster so
Starting point is 00:14:12 in theory the the trains would launch at the same time and they would look like they're racing each other but do you think that you should get separate credits for the or should we one credit is the is the big thing here i mean now he's got me like i'm so in the weeds because it's like it might depend on the number of you know inversions or or maybe it has one as a loop and one has a corkscrew you know true well he has some rules he's not so sure about. And he's genuinely conflicted on whether or not they should be implemented. And that's number one. Mirrored tracks.
Starting point is 00:14:52 Should they be allowed? I was genuinely fooled by Magic Kingdom's mirrored version of Thunder Mountain. I actually thought there were different layouts. But this could also be due to the actually different architecture of the decorations. The landscape is totally different to me and it felt like a new ride it also has a small section of trick track before the second lift hill but i don't think it's significant enough i feel generally in favor of allowing mirrored tracks to count until i think of a mirrored slc if there's even such a thing. Am I even? So is he just talking about like there's some that are just built the exact same? So it's the same coaster and then it has like different decorations.
Starting point is 00:15:34 You know what I mean? Like does a manufacturer make like an identical coaster and then put it at different parks? Is that what he's talking about? And he's saying if you ride one of them and then another one you shouldn't get another coaster credit for riding the second one if it's an identical build even if it's at a different park i think that is what he's saying he's saying that honestly i'm confused and very annoyed by this i know he's not done yet guys he's not done the next one is number two is non-public coasters these are coasters that are not available to everyone while i like the idea of there being exclusive coaster credits
Starting point is 00:16:10 i think that if it can't be obtained by everyone who meets the physical requirements of the ride isn't uh isn't too fat and has legs etc it should be excluded this way i thought he was gonna say just like kids you know like there's a certain sometimes there's you got to be this high he's gone straight in on obesity okay it should be excluded this category would include coasters like backyard coasters and coasters located in places not everyone can go to like north korea oh but but oh i see so so he's talking about private like people build their own coasters presumably really rich people build their own coasters um yeah no i'm down for that that
Starting point is 00:16:52 shouldn't count because in my opinion the only person who's going to be writing you have that is going to be extremely wealthy people fuck them you know well i'm going to give you number three and number three is the whole reason we read this this is the last rule he has okay and this is an important rule and it's an important debate that needs to be had on guys and throughout the country really number three kiddie coasters some of us just don't fit on these rides i'm not fat i'm just a man who is six feet tall i also hang on he's very defensive he's like because he had already mentioned he's making fun of and then he I'm just a man who is six feet tall. I also don't want to look at... He's very defensive. Because he had already mentioned he's making fun of... And then he realizes his next one. He's just like, uh-oh, they might think I'm fat.
Starting point is 00:17:32 I can't ride this. If I say I can't ride the kiddie ones, I better clarify. I also don't want to look like an idiot riding these boring little rides to get credits. I have a sense of dignity after all it's what he says now this is and is that the debate so this is a big debate in the coaster community should kiddie coasters count as a credit and that's where the word coaster whore comes from. It's that when you hear that there is a coaster, like say you go to a, you drive by one of those carnivals that's outside of a church or whatever. You see a roller coaster and you stop and you pull in and you ride that roller coaster and then count it as a credit. Like that's the kind of thing that people do, or they'll drive like six minutes out of the way somewhere to run in and ride a kiddie coaster and get out so a lot of people pad their coaster
Starting point is 00:18:30 credits with kiddie coasters oh i see you're padding your stats a little bit with some easy ones but i mean listen as far as i'm concerned a coaster is a coaster if it if it qualifies on the conditions of a coaster that you've set out then i think that's a coaster they found a loophole you can't be upset at them you just got to be better at finding the kiddie coasters you know i guess i i would say that a lot of people aren't allowed to ride the kiddie coasters chris adults mostly can't fit well you maybe go after hours or find a way to sneak in there or i don't know if it i don't know what your your access to you know uh prosthetics or strong makeup or whatever or you
Starting point is 00:19:13 just maybe you bring a lollipop with you and wear sort of a little schoolboy uniform and you just tell them that you're a little boy and then a lot of people a lot of people and i've read this a bunch of times a bunch of times a lot of people will will pay kids parents to let them ride the roller coaster with the kid if you need a kid to ride it they'll wait by the entrance they say this i this is roller coaster guys this isn't normal people this is like no i can only think of two types of guys that do that one of those roller coaster guys and the other is one that we will not be covering on the program no no that's not i don't know that that's yeah i don't know that i personally if i were i don't know that i would feel comfortable um if some i mean listen some I mean listen I've got a child on the way very soon
Starting point is 00:20:08 the next month or so I don't know if I would feel comfortable if some stranger came up and said hey I need to pad my credit score can I ride the coaster with your boy can I borrow your kid for a few minutes
Starting point is 00:20:23 it's nothing untoward it's just about some online stuff even scarier right i mean technically they are right in front of the parents of course so i suppose nothing crazy is gonna happen it just is i don't want to if i mean if guy gives me 50 bucks i'm probably no no no no i would not do it i would not do it because it's not fair to your child it's it's strange to your child it depends on the age of the kid as well like if the kid's like old enough or they can't be like all right i'll ride with this fucking weirdo you know but if the kid's young enough that it that you can't be letting your
Starting point is 00:21:05 that's strong who knows what the guy's gonna say to your kid that's a good point on the roller coaster like hey you want you want to know something that you really got to understand about the school system you know and then it's like yeah you don't need that going up the lift hill and just fucking telling kids yeah exactly you need to protect your adrenochrome child you know what's scarier than a roller coaster i just thought of it yeah even if your kid is old even if your kid can say fine no i think that's a no-go i'm not letting this strange roller coaster guy get this alone time with my child. Well, you let your teachers.
Starting point is 00:21:51 So, well, teachers, presumably, but they've gone through some sort of vetting process. But also, yeah, I mean, I think, yeah, that's not always. There's also another whole class full of kids there as well. Well, let's look at another funny roller coaster thread here. It is dumb GP quotes. Have any ever heard anything stupid from the general public? Wait, he doesn't even have an example or does he? He will.
Starting point is 00:22:17 Okay, thank you. My personal favorite would have to be at Six Flags over Georgia on Blue Hawk, a.k.a. Ninja. That was smoother than I expected. favorite would be would have to be at six flags over georgia on blue hawk aka ninja that was smoother than i expected what what's why is that a dumb thing like i don't understand him is that is that some sort of inside roller coaster humor where they're like of course everybody knows the ninja's smooth like is that it's like i don't understand why that's dumb like what a goof like this guy thinks the ninja's smooth yeah get out of here guy standing at the exit from the ninja place a coaster enthusiast standing at the edge of the uh exit and saying how you think that was smooth
Starting point is 00:23:00 and then when you say yes laughing at you yeah okay uh next guy says gp aren't dumb they're just ignorant and many of them enjoy the rides just as much as us they're just not enthusiasts i love that condescending kind of like yo they're not let's let's be nice to the they're enjoying the rides they're just ignorant they don't know any better they're just fools we can't judge them too harshly they don't know the name they don't know any better. They're just fools. We can't judge them too harshly. They don't know the manufacturer of this thing. They don't even know this is a B&M. Yeah, we should pity them.
Starting point is 00:23:34 Surprising all of the roller coaster guys with my insane knowledge of roller coasters. Because I watch roller coaster videos every night before I go to bed. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. i seriously really do like that's not a bullshit i watch videos with guys talking about roller coasters because i'm kind of fascinated with them so you're like kind of like a roller coaster guy well i would say more and this isn't the right way to say it but groupie in a way. Oh, I see. Because you don't ride them because you're so afraid.
Starting point is 00:24:09 I never ride one. But that's kind of the same sort of thing like sport. You look up to the people who do ride them the same way that normal people would look up to an athlete. I don't look up to the people that ride them. I will say that. I don't think they're ridiculous. What about right before they're about to hit that big drop? You got to look up to the people that ride them. I will say that. I don't think they're ridiculous. What about right before they're about to hit that big drop? You got to look up at them.
Starting point is 00:24:30 I mean, they're way up there on the downhill. They're way up there. And then they're going down fast, you know? Yeah. Brian claims to not look up to people who ride roller coasters. Well, how do you see them then, Brian? What is he, 300 feet tall? Come on, Brian.
Starting point is 00:24:45 Give me a break. This guy says, yeah. So he goes, they're just not enthusiasts. I'm not a follower of the belief that we should look down on people who aren't a part of what is free. It depends, though. You kind of do have to look down on them if you're up on the roller coaster and they're down on the ground. Yeah. How many credits do they even have?
Starting point is 00:25:07 They're not up there. So, I mean, you're physically looking down on the ground yeah how many credits do they even have they're not up there so i mean you're physically looking down on them guy just sitting up in a thing like looking at the people that aren't riding saying they're not even gonna get a fucking credit can you believe get your credits down there like what are you even smiling about down there? What is your creditless ass smiling about down there with your family? This guy goes, I agree wholeheartedly. My problem is when people just outright lie about roller coasters. It's totally fine if someone mistakenly thinks a ride is the tallest in the world or something. But if you try to tell me about that time, quote, the lap bar broke off and i had to hold on in order not to fall out that's just obviously not true
Starting point is 00:25:50 yeah that's a good point i mean listen you're gonna get some people in in all walks of life you know they like to tell those tall tales where they were in danger but yeah i mean i doubt very many people have actually been in a situation where a roller coaster, but it does happen. Well, yeah, it does happen, you know, so there's some people aren't lying when they say it. Venbel 121 says, I remember my sixth grade math teacher told us a story about how his friend's shoulder restraint opened mid-ride on the great American screen machine. And to keep his friend from falling out, he had to stick his arm through the handles to keep the restraint down. He said, because of this six flags gave him free tickets to come back.
Starting point is 00:26:31 Back then. I didn't really question it, but now I realize it was bullshit. And then that is a classic tall tale. It is. I mean, it could listen. It could be true though.
Starting point is 00:26:43 Who knows? I like, I don't, I don't think it's be true, though. Who knows? You know, it could be true. I don't think it's that far-fetched. I think it is. Why? Because they're safe. You know what I mean? Like, the rolling coasters are safe.
Starting point is 00:26:55 No, but they do, people, they do have problems sometimes. They do. For the most part, no-fail-safe is perfect. Yeah, there's issues. Think about all the moving parts involved in that all the people involved in manufacturing those the people who are running them and stuff like that you know the upkeep that has to happen i mean it can there's there's there's i've seen videos of people of them falling apart you know well uh bb fan 132 says this isn't a quote
Starting point is 00:27:23 okay but i hate it when the the GP calls every inversion a loop. Okay. So what, like, I think I might be guilty of that. What, what would be an inversion? Like,
Starting point is 00:27:39 what are they talking about? That's not a loop that people call a loop. Like a barrel roll. Like sometimes if it's um you're sort of going upside down and you're spinning more upside down as opposed to like you know a straight loop loop now i think i know what a loop is and i only refer to the loops correctly i believe i've seen some g this person says i've seen some gp call helixes quote loops oh fuck okay how does that and i hope that person doesn't have their teeth anymore i hope you punch them it's square in the face i honestly every time we do a coaster like we
Starting point is 00:28:19 just recorded an episode about philosophy coaster which is a newer coaster at Islands of Adventure at the Universal Park in Florida. And every time we do a coaster, I need to go look up the terms. Like, Top Hat is usually like the highest point, and it's
Starting point is 00:28:40 usually like a straight up and nearly a straight down. But I'm like like as i started reading about it and stuff i i'm like i think that giant hump is called a top hat but i need to double check this because i there's so many terms like in any industry there's just so many like highly specific terms and it easy it is easy to confuse like a helix and a heartline role or whatever are you saying that you somebody who has a podcast specifically to do with theme parks even finds it a little tedious the amount of different the terminology that these roller coaster guys use uh yeah sometimes chris yeah sometimes it's a little
Starting point is 00:29:26 overwhelming uh you know it's it's fun to have fun with it you know yeah yeah but then for for the people where it's like this seems like it's haunting you man are you enjoying this anymore why are you mad at everybody else yeah one here's one that says i was reading the trip advisor comments for hershey park once and some lady went off on a tangent about how sky rush needs to be closed down because quote it felt like i was flying off of my seat then a guy replies and goes airtime freaks the heck out of gp yeah i think it's supposed to that's like the entire idea of a roller coaster is to give you a scary feeling it's to make you feel unsafe where you kind of know at the end of the day you are but you can suspend your disbelief a little bit i mean it's supposed to give you those feelings
Starting point is 00:30:21 and this guy's like oh yeah i guess they get a little freaked out by that part just stop 22 said this ride is so boring the ride doesn't even have loops gp carol wins 2016. okay so that was what a gp said i mean listen that it sounds like that person was just a fan of loops yeah oh here's a good one this one's really good for everybody my favorite are not gp because why should i expect them to my favorite are the new thucys or gp that pretend to be thucys it's been a year but i remember hearing a group name dropping and hoping it was correct i think they said that intamin was the company that rmc'd cyclone it was pretty much a whole lot that intamin was the company that rmc'd cyclone
Starting point is 00:31:05 it was pretty much a whole lot of name dropping and getting everything wrong i never intervene i just stand there silently smiling to myself so this person's biggest issue is posers yeah well like trying to pretend to be but they don't really know i mean it's just like again it just sounds like they're into it like you are but they're like struggling with the fucking terminology because there's so fucking much of it and it's all confusing like just give them a break why don't you help talk to them they're like they're trying to get into it you found like like-minded people you could maybe impart some of your knowledge on them instead of just like chuckling and posting
Starting point is 00:31:43 about it after you know well train man 121 said i in line for val raven i heard a conversation between people saying this ride is taller than dragster i was wearing a coaster shirt and they asked me if that was true i said are you nuts that one of them muttered at least it's taller than the millennium falcon stupid gp stupid idiot gp at least it's taller than the fucking falcon so jason how often do you go to like theme park like do you stand in a lot of lineups for roller coasters like have you have you encountered roller coaster people who are like real like enthusiasts or anything like that you know i i don't i i encountered i went to a couple of hard hat tours when like six flags magic mountain was building some stuff okay so that means so a hard hat tour is just when they're building it yeah i have to you have to put a hard hat on and
Starting point is 00:32:39 it's like an active construction site um so but i knew um uh i was kind of like in a different neck of the woods because uh uh we do get to go to like media events or like tours sometimes uh out here and um you know we have listeners who work for the parks and you know those they'll show us stuff or tell us stuff and um at the six flags was building like this new section with a new coaster and restoring an old coaster and i looked around at everyone all the media on this tour and i'm like usually i run into the same same people at like universal or not berry farm opening a new thing. And this Six Flags one, I was like, I have never seen these people,
Starting point is 00:33:27 but I am in a, I am in over my head. This is like coaster, you know, vlogs or websites and stuff. And everyone was perfectly nice, you know, and friendly and stuff.
Starting point is 00:33:41 But, you didn't cross them. You didn't cross any of them though. Presumably you didn't like, you didn't cross any of them though presumably you didn't like you didn't say anything super ignorant you pretty much laid back in the cut because i mean i would imagine if you kind of tried to pop in and say like oh is this taller than the you know what i mean then they would have is this a is this an aerodynamics or an intimate or a bnm and then somebody just a jackal they all just fucking jump on you. Like, they've just been waiting for anybody
Starting point is 00:34:10 to fucking kick it off, you know? Well, we've goofed on the GPs. Let's goof on the Thussis. And this is from a thread entitled, That was such a Thussi moment. Okay, so this is kind of self-deprecating. They're laughing at themselves a bit here. That's cool.
Starting point is 00:34:27 That's cool that they can do that. Not a lot of our communities can do that. We talk about guys. No, a lot of them. Rockabilly guys specifically, I'll say. Oh, well, just the one guy. Let's not. We had the one guy who is pretty bad at me particularly.
Starting point is 00:34:41 But in his defense, I only halfway through the episode realized that rockabilly was a type of music. And I think that really, really bothered him. He did. It's also a lifestyle, you know, it's,
Starting point is 00:34:54 it's the fact that I didn't even know that there was rockabilly music, I guess was really upsetting to him. It seemed to really get him, you know, I liked it. He called me and you nerds nerds nerd one and nerd two yeah yeah we got yeah i mean hey we got told that day that was a listen it was eye-opening for us we had a meeting afterwards brian and i we sat down for two and a half hours just going over
Starting point is 00:35:17 strategies on how we could you know be better and do a better job and be less nerds the first time rockabilly has ever called uh caused a struggle session this guy goes when was the time you said or thought or heard something and after went that was such a doozy thing to do i'll go first i recently had a thought that putting my hands up on a roller coaster for example lightning rod or thunderhead during the whole ride except lift hills lol was a flex after i thought that i was like that was such a thucy thing to think of so these these aren't these are humble brags or whatever i mean this is like they're this is like under the guise of like such a thucy thing to do but it's just them sort of saying like hey this is like this is how i act because i'm a thusi thing to do but it's just them sort of saying like hey this is
Starting point is 00:36:05 like this is how i act because i'm a thusi like they're not actually embarrassed by this stuff well here's a guy that we're gonna learn something even new we're gonna learn even something new now we you think we've learned everything we haven't watching a guy in the back row of mako lower his restraint one click at a time while he turns and looks at the monitor to see when his seat goes green and then the ride op went and stapled him anyway so now i gotta explain what a stapling is uh it's when they push the restraint down so you're stuck against the seat they staple you and that is the thing that roller coaster guys hate the most is getting stapled and also so they want they don't want it to be secured or they know they
Starting point is 00:36:53 want to do it themselves they want a little wiggle room you know yeah that is really what it is they're they they don't they want to be and here's some guys talking about it uh this guy, I saw a guy having a meltdown at Mako at the end of the night a few weeks ago because ops was making him get off and walk back through the line. And then a guy replies and goes, I'll do that. So this is how they prevent from getting stapled. Okay. I do this also, but I'll push my pelvis up for the op to check to avoid stapling. push my pelvis up for the op to check to avoid stapling so he pushes his pelvis up in the air so that when they think they got him stapled they don't he left some pelvis room so they don't want
Starting point is 00:37:35 to be stapled that's no not at all like getting stapled is the worst possible thing for them. But I would want to be secure. I mean, it is possible to push it too far in where it's very uncomfortable. But also, most coasters are under four minutes. And many of them are under three minutes. So it's not like you're in that for a long time. Yeah, yeah. Not for a full movie or something. This guy goes, I also have my feet
Starting point is 00:38:08 on my toes rather than heels so I can push my legs up a bit higher when they're about to try and staple me. It doesn't always work, but it definitely helps. That's another way to get stapled. If you hear about somebody falling out of a roller coaster
Starting point is 00:38:23 or whatever, it's probably a Thucy. Is that safe to say? you hear about somebody like falling out of a roller coaster or whatever it's probably a thucy i mean if somebody flies out of a roller coaster i'm leaning thucy i'm leaning thucy versus a gp on that one because yeah thucys are going to be trying to avoid that full staple whereas uh you know people i wouldn't even know the pelvis routine to you know give myself pelvis room after the staple you know gps are such fucking idiots they like to get stapled because it says it makes them feel quote secure that's me yeah that's literally what i just said that i want to feel like i'm saved that's how much of a fucking idiot i am here's a little
Starting point is 00:39:02 exchange here argue here's another through c thing arguing with ride ops because they won't let a grown man slash woman on the kiddie coaster without a child and we get a responses or worse asking a random family to borrow their child just so they can ride and a person goes uh i i pray i never see that in person and the replies it's actually hilarious in person watching a grown-ass adult try and explain what's happening to the non-enthusiast or children is hilarious. It's why I don't count kiddie coasters in my credits. They add nothing usually and are cringe, to be honest. Cringe call.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Yeah, fair enough. Listen, I'm pro-kiddie coaster. I think every coaster counts. I'm a purist. But I also understand that point of view yeah yeah i uh i understand why they're like you need to ride this with a kid uh every now and then there is an attraction or a ride where it's like you cannot be a full-sized adult like it is dangerous oh yeah you won't fit you won't fit on it yeah
Starting point is 00:40:07 i saw a guy riding one of those wacky worm roller coasters which is uh it's nothing right like it's just a couple of little bumpies and they go around like two or three times it's one that they can take to fairs and i saw like a 40 year old man squeezed into one of those. And one of the pictures, that's a Thucy. That is a Thucy. My daughter grabbed us some stuff from roller coaster fanatic on Facebook. And Jason, you'll,
Starting point is 00:40:34 you'll be able to speak to this. Velocicoaster is the best roller coaster ever. Sean replies and says, it's my favorite 100%. And then Williams Jones require replies. It's not even the best ride in its own state. That's fucking. So he doesn't even say the best one. No, he doesn't.
Starting point is 00:40:56 Oh, no, no. He's just telling that guy that he's wrong. I really want to know what I do want to hear what he has to say. I think, you know, this is a thing that happens where like a new ride or a new coaster come out and people are very quick to say like, well, it's best whenever. And it's like, well, it might be the most like technologically advanced or it might, you know, it's only been open for like a year or two. I don't know if you this i feel like this is what is it turn the bias of like no this is recency bias recency bias yeah recency bias so uh but that one is very cool it's got some really cool tricks and some beautiful like
Starting point is 00:41:37 landscaping and stuff and you wrote it you know it's the one you watch getting built right i i was there when they were building it, but I was back a couple months ago, and I did ride it. And I really liked it. Yeah. Is it like Velocico? Is that what it's called? I mean, is it like just for velocity?
Starting point is 00:41:56 No, for Velociraptor. It's like Jurassic World themed. And in the queue, there's videos with Bryce... Is it... Alice Howard? Yeah. Chris Pratt? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:13 Okay, because they have... Universal Studios, the one I went to in California, they do have like a... It's not a coaster, really, but they have like a ride at Jurassic Park. It's... Yeah, the river, Jurassic World. It was Jurassic Park. Then now they kind, the river, Jurassic World. It was Jurassic Park.
Starting point is 00:42:25 Then now they kind of... Yeah, they updated it. I actually went to both. I went before and after, yeah. I'm thinking about going to Universal when I'm out there. Sorry? Oh, you should.
Starting point is 00:42:38 Brian, I know you were talking about, like, I want to do it. I want to get the front of the line and stuff. But the trick about Universal is it's very much a locals park. So if you can go like on a weekday, you don't need the front of the line. Like when I,
Starting point is 00:42:56 when I went there, I was, yeah, I just, we went early in the morning, like when it opened on a weekday and we just wrote all the rides we wanted to no problem, you know?
Starting point is 00:43:04 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I might yeah yeah yeah i might do it i might do it uh here we go from roller coasters and amusement parks facebook group rant time for bush gardens williamsburg well i'm now done with bush gardens they will never get another dime from me no parking lot trams running at the park. Is that capacity? Only running trams to overflow parking. You have to walk to Ireland or Germany lots, which that's crazy to me. Next, only two metal detectors, and the line was backed all the way past the ticket booth. It's just about to the parking lot. This is a review written in line, we can tell now one of our favorite guys love inline reviews yeah
Starting point is 00:43:48 the old phone out and just when i'm at here like i think at the absolute peak of my rage and let's document it and put it out in public next the stupid machines were not accepting passes so you had to stand in a ridiculous line at guest services for the membership perk stuff next pantheon i did get five quick cues for any day till one seven for my complaint at guest services now no loose articles at all period was told i had to leave or buy a locker, I blew up. That was it. Like, imagine how bad it was, too. Like, he's admitting in the review, like, you know, he's going to try to mitigate his responsibility as best he can, but he is, like, being fully, like, forthright with the fact that at this point,
Starting point is 00:44:44 I lost control so you can imagine how out of control he was and like the way he was acting you know this man is about to have a falling down moment jason what's funny about is it an open carry state is that is that that's in virginia i don't know maybe jay the thing about this and i'm sure you guys have noticed this too is that like the reviews for amusement parks are so dramatic they're so different from a restaurant and it's because when you go to a restaurant i mean you know sometimes you have a bad, but it's not like going to a restaurant is a big special thing for a lot of people. A lot of people are going on vacation.
Starting point is 00:45:30 So they've gone on a big vacation and this is like a big center point of the vacation. And if it's a bad experience, it could ruin a whole vacation. And in today's economy, it can be hard to put the money together to go on a vacation. So it might be the only one you go on in three or four years. put the money together to go on a vacation. So it might be the only one you go on in three or four years. And the idea that this fucking horrible line at this place ruined that for you. I might get my ass on Yelp too.
Starting point is 00:45:50 If I, if I could save that money for three fucking years and the thing only had two fucking, you know, I mean, fuck that. So I can get, I guess that makes sense.
Starting point is 00:46:00 Well, if you put it on Yelp, that would be one thing, but this is in a face private Facebook group. Okay. Well, that's just venting Yelp, that would be one thing, but this is in a private Facebook group. Okay. Well, that's just venting. That's just blowing off steam. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:11 And the thing is, it's like, always be nice to the people working on, like, you know, the rides or the get, like, they're not making a lot of money, and they're not deciding who is staffing, how many people. It's clearly staffing issues that we're dealing with. There's not enough people working, and the idea of getting upset with the people who it happens to them all the time. They're like, okay, so I'm the one who showed up to work, and a bunch of other people didn't, so now there's a big lineup. other people didn't so now there's a big lineup and then i'm the one who's also gonna have to deal with all of the fucking pushback for it and all of the anger for it while making yeah not that
Starting point is 00:46:49 much probably it is it's real bullshit yeah you should give them the phone numbers of guys that called in sick you know well that's why i have a little uh system where you know if there's a real issue that i have is that i'll go and find the cell phone number for the CEO of a particular organization. And I'll call them on like a Sunday night at about 945 p.m. And then I'll bother them. I'm not leaving my wallet on the platform for someone to steal. That's just ludicrous. And if you're now forcing guests to use lockers, they should be free.
Starting point is 00:47:27 and guests to use lockers they should feed they should be free another waiting another 30 minutes after waiting another 30 minutes to speak with a manager and security was finally told i could get one time locker for free but that didn't work either this guy is maybe is so annoying imagine his family if his family was with him. You know. Dad can we go. Like I want to ride the thing. We've been waiting for so long. And he's like I have to wait. Daddy needs to wait to speak to a manager. Alright.
Starting point is 00:47:55 Dad mom's crying. Can we just go share a pizza or something. No. No. Dad needs to go feature himself in an online viral clip that's going to be shared all around twitter later i'm just picturing his family like sitting on a bench while he's fuming outside of a manager's office yeah they're just desperately want to go and then he's got like all this stuff too he won't even give them the passes
Starting point is 00:48:24 he wants to utilize his kids in the argument you know oh yeah the manager so he won't let them go ride rides my wife used to go out to lunch with this woman all the time back in this is a very long time ago now go to this place called max and irma's which was a uh chain restaurant that really didn't get much out of ohio and they would go every day or once or twice a week and every single time this woman she went with would yell and scream and make a scene to the manager for some reason so she could get her food for free and my wife only went like two or three times before she discovered that was what was going on but i always think of that lady like man there's somebody who learns the wrong just learned the wrong lesson there's better ways to get free food
Starting point is 00:49:12 than that oh yeah i just feel it just to go take it from a store so i've waited 30 minutes to speak with a manager and security was finally told that i could get a one-time locker for free but that didn't work either then was given a voucher for the movable ride locker. I couldn't figure out how to work the locker. How did it present? Then they took my quick, then they took my quick cue, but then Pantheon went down for the rest of the night,
Starting point is 00:49:37 which you can't man. That's that's, that's just how that's so that's a real unfortunate thing, but certainly not the fault of the park yeah rides go down all the time and it's always unpredictable you know unless it's built into the calendar like hey this is going to be closed for a week for seasonal maintenance you know but even that that's part of it that's they can't help it it's not their fault it's just like part of running the a park they're gonna you know they want to
Starting point is 00:50:09 make sure that they're in good they gotta keep you safe yeah it's especially if you're a fucking whatever they're called the thucy and you're gonna fucking you're not even gonna get stapled in they gotta make sure that the ride's safe i brian i'm not gonna lie you have found such a niche i have never heard the term through c before or even gp like yeah yeah that's what's so that's what i'm saying that's who these people are so wild that they're so like outside of like anything that exists other than them you know like that even even a podcast about theme parks would not like touch on their weird little fucking you know terms oh we like i mean i i mike um my co-host read once and and we had talked about that we found he found this like 10 years ago where there was like a message board post
Starting point is 00:51:06 about making like fan art for duffy the disney bear duffy is mickey's stuffed animal and there's a whole universe of different stuffed animals and stuff and people were arguing about someone's like all right this is gonna be the rules of the fan art contest and someone was like i i can't do all that i have a job and i also have fibromyalgia is that okay and the original poster was just like yes okay that's not what i'm talking about it's fine whatever you can do is fine and for years we have just been like just this just haunted us like so very similar to the credit ranking system which again i don't know what the end game is is there like a worldwide is there a worldwide ranking board or something is no but there's a
Starting point is 00:52:00 wise no there are several different apps where you can count your credits, and I think they make them available for other people to see. Is there any sort of... Is there any rollercoaster credit leaderboard? No. Maybe in the app, and then there's a handful of
Starting point is 00:52:19 Guinness World Records, I think, but those are insanely specific. Yeah. Then they took my quick cue but then pantheon went down for the rest of the night had to wait again for another supervisor to return my unused quick cue then by that time verboten went down and as did dark oster but i finally but it finally came back up 45 minutes later alpha geist was supposed to be open nope closed as was invader all the shows two plus hour waits the train three hour wait i left thoroughly disgusted this guy spent so much time talking to supervisors that
Starting point is 00:52:59 like i can't even i would have just kicked him out that's what they should have fucking done they should just kick the fucking guy out give his money back kick him out. That's what they should have fucking done. They should have just kicked the fucking guy out. Give his money back, kick him out. It's not worth the manpower. The employees are going to have to deal with this guy. You're not going to make your money back on it. If that's not the name of the game they're playing with Pantheon and forcing you to buy the locker,
Starting point is 00:53:20 I will now be leaving my wallet and phone in the car and won't spend another dime in the park. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Yeah, they can actually get your wallet easier if you leave it out in the car. What if somebody goes and grabs it in there? I love whenever I hear these posts, I always think about the Simpsons. You just lost yourself a customer, you know, and he's like getting drowned out by all the like, like, dude, they're fine.
Starting point is 00:53:43 They don't need they're they're very successful.... Dude, they're fine. They're very successful. They're doing okay. I always think about the cable news guy that says, you just lost my traffic. Yeah, you just lost my traffic. Because, of course, they're not actually buying anything. The other thing to think about, if you look at everything this guy is saying,
Starting point is 00:54:01 parking lot trams are not running. There's only two metal detectors it takes me 45 minutes to talk to a supervisor this is going down this is going down this is going down operation wise this sounds like a terrible day for this park and everyone has bad days like when we were down uh uh the the the three of us, my girlfriend, we went down to ride a bunch of new stuff and check some other stuff out. The one day we walked into Universal Studios Florida and there was an announcement that I've never heard playing, which is like, at this time, a lot of attractions are currently down. A lot of rides are not working. So maybe go next door to islands of adventure and i'm like i
Starting point is 00:54:46 have never heard an announcement like having a tough time today maybe go to the other park like that was a freak like made the local news that it was like so much shit was breaking and it's like where did you put where did you go to post about it oh um well i everywhere everywhere like okay good good i waited two hours to talk to a manager to get a voucher for a free bottle of coca-cola yeah yeah of course how many years would you say you talked to that oh so many yeah buddy you should see my how many fucking managers credits i have for the managers i've talked to me if you talk to one manager it'll you have to talk to a different manager supervisor's a half credit manager is a full credit manager credits for
Starting point is 00:55:38 every time you ask to speak to a manager um by the way i did find a thing on CoasterCount.com for the highest rankings of ridden coasters. This is updated recently, so it does have a list here. And can I tell you the number one with 3,149 credits is George. Nice. So just one name on there, Georgeorge who appears to be from england number two is richard from ireland with 3062 and then number three is bruno from germany with 2856 so that's the current rankings just how many of those are kiddie coasters well how many you know what i mean like you know how many of those are mirror coasters? You know, he rode two sides of the same coaster.
Starting point is 00:56:27 It's just. Yeah, no, it's tough to say. It doesn't have any of those details. Yeah, because they wouldn't. Here's a guy that came up with a good solution for. He goes, full disclosure. I hate parks that have methods where people who can afford it can pay to cut the line. It makes the line much longer for the rest of the ordinary folks also
Starting point is 00:56:45 full disclosure i've been happy to have those systems in place when i'm at a new to me park and it's crowded okay i like them when i like i do use them and i like them but i'm against them when i'm not using them and i don't benefit from yeah there's no way i could get all the rides in otherwise i have a better solution so we got a guy here we go we love a solution and the solutions are always so good by they're they're always so good they're always based in reality oh yeah based in uh staffing and budgets yeah you know attainable well thought out. Sensible, yeah. Considered all angles for sure. Every person who enters the park gets five skip the line tickets.
Starting point is 00:57:33 Each ride has a separate queue for ticketed riders, and those trains fill first. If you want to use your five tickets on five different rides, great. You're not going to get five credits. If you want to ride the same one five times, great. That's only one credit. The thing is when those tickets are gone, they're gone. This means that everyone has the, some opportunity to skip five lines. And it also means that people aren't going to be able to just keep clogging up the lines all day. Potential add on visitors from outside the region who are likely going to try to ride everything might get a couple extra tickets.
Starting point is 00:58:09 I don't know or care enough to consider if that would work. Maybe. I don't. The people from out of town thing, I think, is really. This is a guy that doesn't understand that, like, a lot of parks. And, Jasonason you probably would know better than me but a lot of parks depend on like kind of the backbone is local yeah yeah um i i would say so especially in southern california i mean even down
Starting point is 00:58:39 in central florida and orlando there are big uh you know attempts of like okay um here's an annual pass but you can only get it if you live in these zip codes yeah so it's a little cheaper but also it might not have as many days you know um so but like yeah, Universal Studios Florida, I was saying, like, that is a park where it's, like, well, maybe don't go Saturday. You know? That's a way, like, don't go Saturday at lunchtime. But some of this stuff, too, when people get so hyper-focused on, like, the actual riding, and it's like, hey, hey man maybe take a step back and like plan a little better you know like if you get there right at opening or you go right at closing you're gonna have less lines and like i tried to eat lunch at 12 30 and the restaurants were packed
Starting point is 00:59:41 well yeah that's when people like to eat lunch. I found so many people complaining about the restaurants being busy at noon. Yeah, of course. So it's like, well, man, maybe eat an early, eat at 11 or eat at 2. Like that will solve half of the problems you have, you know? Jason, just because we do have you here as an expert as well i thought i would ask this is it's true as well because you know theme parks very well is that it's it's also true that the disney theme parks they're actually quite geared towards adults and it's pretty normal to base your entire life around disney still as an adult and go there
Starting point is 01:00:23 and even maybe get married there and maybe ariel hope you're listening have your wife give birth in one of their new birthing facilities that overlooks the park well i don't detect any lie chris that all sounds right to me i will tell you this is this is gonna date the episode but me and i have received a link to a Disney swingers app. So, oh, yeah, right. Somebody tagged us in that on Twitter. Swingers app. I mean, not not surprising in today's day and age, unfortunately, because that that
Starting point is 01:00:57 is everybody. It's such a huge. I mean, are we we haven't done Disney adult guy. I mean, are we going to do that, Brian, at some point? I think. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Disney guys would be a good one. Disney guys would be a good one.
Starting point is 01:01:09 You know, it's the sort of thing where there's the majority of people are plenty nice and just trying to enjoy themselves. And then you get to a point where it's like, am I talking to the Zodiac killer? Am I going to die you know that's the ones we're looking for that's that's brian's task every week is to find the ones who you think well this this person might actually be really scary well i found a real sour puss here before we get back to some more reviews uh they say uh herschel park or lake mount park will be allowing adults to ride their
Starting point is 01:01:47 kiddie coaster this season this is a big deal the original poster goes silly but i figured a few people here might appreciate it i'm legitimately excited about this after getting denied a couple of times oh just coming back like he's cock of the walk, like so arrogant to the person, like, well, I guess I win in the end, you know? How do you turn them down? Oh, man, you showed that 16-year-old here for the summer, you know? The kid's like, whatever, man. It's just like, well, look who it is.
Starting point is 01:02:21 Hello, Connor. You told me I would never ride this ride i've heard idea oh i guess i'll i oh what am i doing connor oh looks like i am riding it on a related note it's nice to see lake monk doing a better job of maintaining an active online presence and actively working to promote the park so then this person replies god damn it god fucking damn it. God fucking damn it. I thought I was the unique one around here with little leaper as a credit. I have gotten the nice ride ops gave us teenage Thuces and exception.
Starting point is 01:02:56 Teenage. Then we get a reply from the lather daddy. It's a good name. Okay. Your credit count without kiddie coasters is your real credit count. That's my bumper sticker. That's what my bumper sticker says.
Starting point is 01:03:15 Your credit count without kiddie coasters is your real credit count. I just love that there's a sentence that features the phrase both Lil Leaper and God damn it. Imagine those 64 says, if that's how you want to count yours, then go for it. And then the lather daddy replies and says, I will keep assuming all y'all just have 50 or so less written. So take a 50 off your fucking credit count.
Starting point is 01:03:44 Hey, post your address say we'll discuss this in person address lather daddy then we get a reply to him and they say uh what's your line name the largest ride you wouldn't count and the smallest ride you would count and uh he replies and says it's pretty obvious what a kiddie coaster is yes love how tight people get about being clowned on for riding roller coasters exclusively designed for literal children yeah lather daddy is like he's a he's a message board uh regular and like he's he's been around for a while he's an old school message board guy we we encountered some of them in our last few
Starting point is 01:04:25 episodes too the ones who are just kind of like yeah okay like that's their whole thing you know oh yeah okay that's that's very cute of you yeah well let's look at a couple more reviews before we get out of here i have uh i have a international guys international review we We have... This is from the UK, from a place called Alton Towers, which, by the way, I've never been there because I've never been to the UK or anything, and I don't ride roller coasters, but Alton Towers has some of the coolest themed rides of all of the parks
Starting point is 01:04:59 because it seems like it's geared for teenagers. So it's like they have Saw the Ride and the Wicker man. Oh, yeah. The wicker man coaster looks awesome. I've seen that one before. Yeah, it is cool how it looks. But this person went and they said fast track tickets were defective.
Starting point is 01:05:19 I visited on Friday, the 22nd of September with my partner and two sons aged 9 and 13 years old for their joint birthday gift. We arrived at 10 a.m. and it was extremely busy. Most queues were showing at 45 minutes on the app for the big rides. The weather was showery and rides were frequently closing, so we purchased. So, first of all, this is a very common thing where if you go to the park and it rains, you give it a one-star review. I don't know. It's so many. If you look at the one-star review of any amusement park, almost all of them will say that it was raining.
Starting point is 01:05:59 And I thought about it. And I thought about it. And a few years ago, we had tickets that my wife had bought for the local water park, Zumbizi Bay, which is next to the zoo. It's about 25 minutes away. And then Brian told her to return those because he was all excited at first. But then she was like, no, no, no, a water park. We're not doing water sports. Oh, sure. Yes, I was mad, no, no, a water park. We're not doing water sports. Oh, sure. Yes, I was mad because I couldn't piss on my wife.
Starting point is 01:06:30 Well, no, you can do that anytime. You're mad because you weren't able to piss on a different couple. I'm sorry to Brian's wife. I'm sorry. You shouldn't get caught up in any of this. I apologize. That was very rude. Brian is the only disgusting one. Yeah, I am disgusting the pineapple on on the website was uh correct it was not upside down and it was solely for the tiki drink bar you know pineapple day at disney or at a theme park is something i wouldn't go to
Starting point is 01:07:01 but tom and bunny being the host of it and everything would be beautiful. Here's a guy from the UK. Lots of rides were broken down and kept bouncing between rides and he goes, the theme park should be called quote, Wake Park because he's waiting. Ah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:19 I was trying to put two together on that one. That's kind of like any complaint where it's like, I had to wait so much. Like, man, that's part of the implicit agreement. Like, when you buy the ticket, there's going to be some waiting. There's two things I feel are like, you're going to a theme park or an amusement park,
Starting point is 01:07:44 and this is what you're going to get, right? And one of them is you're going to a theme park and or an amusement park and this is what you're gonna get right like and one of them is you're gonna have to wait in line and the other thing is it's expensive it's not cheap it's never gonna be cheap there's not gonna be a day where it's cheap and like you go in there and you're like oh my god i paid 55 for two hot dogs and you're like that's what shit costs there yeah yeah waiting in a long lineup and you're all but you just have to go in and understand that and be completely prepared for it if you're not then you will have a bad time because it sucks waiting in a line you know exactly and there are ways there are so many ways to sit like use triple a discounts like go to
Starting point is 01:08:21 costco and buy a discount ticket like there's so many ways a better time like you said plan it out better look it up because nowadays i will say this uh universal studios in california of course is the one that i went to that's what i'm thinking about going to and so and so man well you i've been a bunch of times because i'm just like la is a second home type thing so it's like yeah well i'm gonna be going to la in a couple you've never gotten you've never even been in la several times i don't you've never been to the park before so it's like yeah well i'm gonna be going to la in a couple you've never gotten you've never even been in la several times i don't know you've never been to the park before so it's like it just shows what you know about being in la but anyway so so there's an actual website and i'm sure they're they have this for all kinds of things where it will show you the
Starting point is 01:08:58 exact you type in the date and you can look at the calendar and it will show you the time of day and the day and it will show you how busy it is it has like a thing where it says not busy at all and it has like a like a color system so if you do your due diligence and look ahead and plan ahead you can find a time to go also at that at that part one thing they do which i was extremely impressed with not to give too much credit to the universal corporation but it was that they they were clearly aware of and understand that this huge line issue and so they created situations where the line is feels like part of like the mummy you're in a tomb and you're going to different rooms and it's always moving and it feels like now you've made progress you're into another room and there's something playing on
Starting point is 01:09:43 the tv and like they did that very well so the line didn't feel like you're just sitting there waiting and it sort of flew by so they're like yeah yeah the cue is part of the story it enhances the experience yeah exactly and obviously that's like when you're building a theme park that is so popular like that that is like gonna be a big thing for you because like like we see here people hate the line so it's like what do we do to make the line experience less horrible so they're working on it all the time and i think yeah i don't know about other parks but it's pretty good there well here's our last review from steve um this is for six flags magic mountain and steve gave it one star and He said, my second favorite
Starting point is 01:10:25 ride was the ride home next to my boyfriend, who was the best ride of this experience. Could have got that for free. So you fucked up. Yeah, that's a pretty nasty review. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:10:42 I'm glad you're happy. Glad you're both happy uh so you fucked at the at the plate and okay is there more right yeah could have got that for free every single coaster we tried to go on said quote biohazard or secure access only or simply no entry biohazard yeah did they go during fright? Were those like thematic signs? Were they? Because they will put up those biohazard signs around Halloween. The whole park was overrun with ghoulies and goblins.
Starting point is 01:11:16 They couldn't do anything. I was getting spooked left, right, and center. I mean, it's ridiculous. I called the police. Security. And then I call a security guy over. Well, what do you know? He's got a goddamn ax and he starts chasing me.
Starting point is 01:11:24 I'm like, what? I'm like, what? I'm like, what? I'm like, what? right in center i mean it's ridiculous i called the police security and then i call a security guy over well what do you know he's got a goddamn axe and he starts chasing me could have got that for i love that he did have sex there uh secure access only or simply no entry because of this we were stuck writing only the kiddie coasters zero credits while waiting in line for the goliath before once again getting turned back around and off the ride we saw a morgue we also saw an electrocution ride and had to get off before it even started this guy seems really mad about it would have been funny if he was like yeah we couldn't even ride the goliath the only goliath i got to ride was my boyfriend
Starting point is 01:12:05 his cock is just fucking massive and that's a good ride i wish everybody at the park could erode my boyfriend honestly like they're all like a bunch of people are like riding this one roller coaster and they saw them get off and they're like this was a lot of fun and then i was like you should try riding my boyfriend's cock. It will put these to shame. Sir, can we talk to you? Oh, what? Sir, come with us, please.
Starting point is 01:12:37 Oh, you're taking me to a VIP area? New ride at Six Flags Magic Mountain. My boyfriend's cock. My boyfriend's cock my boyfriend's cock that's a good theme i think yeah you know and i've seen some instruments on tom and bunny's uh sex club tours and let me tell you jason we ain't talking about guitars talking about huge nasty things after uh he uh so he rode the kiddie coasters and he said we saw more we also saw an electrocution ride and had to get off before it even started after this trip i will never be returning to another amusement park wow and then in parentheses he goes unless this location would like to give me a season pass once all the rides open back up to compensate for this awful experience.
Starting point is 01:13:25 It's not going to happen, man. That's not going to happen. He's like, I'm never going to go to any theme park ever again. I like that, though. That's putting your money where your mouth is. That's actually very chill, too, because you might like, even if they don't see it, one of the other theme parks might see it and call them and be like hey man we don't want to lose out on this guy's business can you give him a damn pass please that's exactly like everybody's panicking yeah like this guy knows that he doesn't need our rides i mean i mean
Starting point is 01:13:57 he has a huge cock on his boyfriend well have you seen his boyfriend's damn cock i mean we're lucky to have this guy in our facility we were talking about at the last conference and we're really we don't know how to work around this how are we supposed to build a ride that compares to having a huge cock yeah they won't let us do the any sort of ride where something goes in your ass he goes and after that he just says 50 year anniversary more like 50 years wasted good riddance it's like he's just discounting their entire history everything they've brought to the community yeah it was a waste of 50 years he cares you know i love all these reviews we'll do more on guys plus because i have a few more
Starting point is 01:14:46 that are just yeah it rained today zero stars and it's just like you can't that is like that fundamental misunderstanding of what a review is that we we talk about a lot on on guys is we're like i just don't think people understand what a review is. Somebody replied to me one day on Twitter, and they said there should be a high school class on reviews. And I kind of think that's true now. Yeah. You know, there are a lot of seasonal places
Starting point is 01:15:22 where it's like we have to close because of winter. When there is a freak rainstorm in the middle of summer, in the fall, they will give out make good tickets. But then in, say, Orlando where it rains every day
Starting point is 01:15:40 or every other day, that's part of the agreement. You're not getting any make good tickets there. Let're not getting any make good. Oh, I'm not Jason. Well, let me please speak to a manager. Well,
Starting point is 01:15:49 we'll see what we sit. We'll see what they have to say. I've got the trip advisor app open right now. Holding it up. Holding it up. Yeah. Yeah. I mean,
Starting point is 01:16:00 trip advisor is really the bane of these parts. Like, cause if you go to trip advisor and and start reading through the bad reviews, you're like, none of these. None of these reviews are legitimate at all. I don't think, honestly, it's affecting. It depends on what it is. People go to these Six Flags Universal Studios.
Starting point is 01:16:20 They don't fucking care. They're all five stars. Yeah, totally. All right. Well, that is Rollercoaster, guys. There's so much stuff left, though. We're going to have to hit them on Guys Plus. And next week, I don't know what's coming because
Starting point is 01:16:36 this is episode 53. So Lego Guys was last week. It's just a whole thing. I've got a whole mess going on. You can go to patreon.com slash murder x brian or twitch.tv slash murder x brian and jason tell people where to find you uh well thanks for having me guys uh i love this show i always listen um you can find me uh podcast the ride wherever you get your podcasts uh we're on all the social media podcasts a ride and um We're on all the social media Podcasts of Ride and
Starting point is 01:17:05 We're on Patreon at Patreon.com slash podcast The Ride for our second gate And club three tiers Which gets a little into the nitty Gritty you know that if You if you are interested in Kitty coasters we might cover
Starting point is 01:17:21 Slider rides there or Just whatever You know our pet obsessions are you know well i'm hoping you guys you know get into the weeds about credits yeah if you could sort of just like talk a little bit on there and about the credit system and whether or not the kitty coaster and just about the split in the mirrored stuff and it would be cool to hear some of that coverage you know yeah you know when it's a busy month i might just do a long rant about the foolish gp you know yes it is the the i watch a lot of theme park stuff and like you guys and defunct land are so yeah my two that's my two
Starting point is 01:18:02 faves i've watched some of the Defunctland things twice. No, he's great. Yeah, Kevin's great. He makes some really good stuff. Well, thank you so much for the compliment. And, yeah. All right. We'll see you all next week with something.
Starting point is 01:18:16 Goodbye. Bye.

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