Guys: With Bryan Quinby - Guys: Episode 7 - Metal Detector Guys with Howell Dawdy and Chris James

Episode Date: March 28, 2023

This week on Guys we look at a real group of sweethearts with an outlaw spirit (kind of) It seems like we might have one of the more famous ones on the show maybe?? I don't know, I can't tell Learn about the inner group arguments about permission and the government and some really funny metal detector jokes and a quiz about metal detector slang Find Howell Dawdy on twitter @howelldawdy and patreon.com/howelldawdy and find Howell Dawdy's Fast Track wherever you find podcasts (me and chris have both written songs with Howell) I am on twitter @murderxbryan Patreon at patreon.com/murderxbryan Chris is @thecjs on twitter and patreon.com/notevenashow Music by Zachary Fairbrother (@avantlard on Twitter)

Welcome to Guys, a podcast about guys. I am Brian. How are you, listener? I brought on, of course, my dad, Chris James. Hey, what's happening? And that's kind of, yeah, I don't know about you saying hi to the listener first. You normally say hi to me first, but okay, I see on somebody that is a very requested guest, which generally I would make way down the line because I know that people want you. And it's just like a way. I know that's one in my pocket, but I decided to do and do a nice guy episode. I got Howell Dottie. What's up, man? I'm coming on to be a nice guy or this will be a

about nice guys i you know they all seem like nice guys i mean there are a few subcultures of we're talking about metal detector guys this week or you know the detectorist that's my impression just where i've been working on that kind of thing impressions and whatnot i don't know that that one hit super hard um but yeah it's kind of like silver i think yeah if you're not over what you're doing there thank you um now yeah i and that does sort of it was interesting you said in a nice guy episode because i kind of got from that like the last bunch of guests we've had have been a real bunch of low lives, you know, like, yeah, finally, we got a nice guy on here. Is that what you meant?

Yeah. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. I didn't like any of those people before. Barely like you, Chris. So this is very exciting for us to have someone nice on the show. Well, I like that. for us to have someone nice on the show well i like that i like setting a baseline of nice guy and that way any any little jabs i can manage to throw in this one will be though it'll be like

watching rudy run like oh wow okay that was that was really something coming from you i mean you know that's how we'll react like oh my god like wow i mean normally i wouldn't really mind that comment but i know you're notorious for being nice wow this guy's going off this nice guy's going off today my goal here is to uh have the entire entire metal detectorist community turn on howell like make him public enemy number one no no don't ruin my relationship with the metal detector so so how well we should then do you you have some because you know we were talking a little bit before we started that we sometimes we'll bring on people you know a real dope just so we can sort of laugh at him like jesse farrar you know we'll bring him on like

oh hey let's talk about drugs this guy didn't know shit and we'll laugh at him and everything but i'm glad i'm not one of those guys that you're bringing on to just sort of uh poke a stick at and well it remains to be seen what what kind of i mean what kind of relationship do you have to um to metal detector guys before before you answer that i also want to say don't listen to the next two episodes after this uh we are we won't say that same thing about oh yeah you know usually we have morons out here like like hell donnie uh uh so yeah i just i this was a completely uh random thing that popped up in my youtube rex like a year ago year plus um it was a video by a guy named chris turner who lives in vancouver uh excuse me sorry and sorry we're talking you just told me this guy's name is chris in vancouver

yeah um okay wow okay not sure the listener is cluing in on this connection but yeah it's not you chris but you guys know i have a monday night twitch stream where i watch game shows uh you guys have both been on it i believe right yeah um joy uh both hung out with me and watched game shows so usually the way i find game shows to watch is i will just pop up youtube and since i watch a lot of them it'll tell me you know here's an episode you haven't seen of something uh and it showed me you know how sometimes you get a youtube rec for something that's like got like 400 views and you're like yeah this is probably interesting why is it showing me this i have no idea why it is it showing me this i have

no idea why it showed it to me but i clicked on it and it was this guy like it was this guy going out and and retrieving a lost wedding ring and it was and it was me was it me it was not you but it was chris in vancouver but it was a guy named chris Vancouver. So we just started watching. We just started in between. Yeah, no. Hey, sorry, Hal. If I could cut you off. I was feeling like, hey, somebody loses their wedding ring. And hey, this is going to be really hurtful for them.

So I go out and what I do is I retrieve them for them because I know it's important to people. That's so nice of you. I was explaining to Brian how this is something that i do and you're and you but you'll tell you've seen the videos you go ahead how no this is a this is a different guy this is a guy who's like super good he's like really good at it like he's like world he's like known around the world for this it's me i do think it's me but you can go on continue he's got the guy the guy he's got an international organization of people who like

drive out to your property to find your to find your wedding ring and uh and he's just an interesting character for us to get to know on the stream uh to spend a lot of time with uh not saying that couldn't be you chris but like well i was just gonna say to brian yeah the when i the reason i got that idea was like i can't find all the rings myself so i started saying what if i got a bunch of other people to go out and get find these rings around the world and i call it rings around the world with chris turner and it is uh it's very very cool but so so how how how is is he is he a interesting guy to watch or is it more just the idea of it is kind of because that is cool i like that i mean it's a pretty heartwarming thing to watch i would imagine

when they succeed at it and return the ring do they show that part yes i mean he focuses the funny thing about him is that he's very, very dedicated and very passionate about... Oh, no. Rosie just started barking. That's okay. People love dogs. My listeners love Rosie, even though she ruins every daytime podcast I do. What is she barking at? Do you think what's her main?

Probably she saw a dog out in the street looking at. I saw a dog. She's caught. Right. Right. As a point, it's going to be. How old is Rosie? Rosie is like eight months old.

Oh, so Rosie is still getting used to the idea that dogs are going to be walking by quite often yeah yeah she goes crazy when that when there's another dog around every single every single time so i think sorry yeah brian i'm gonna close the door okay how's gonna close the door um but brian i'll just ask you would you call what would you if you lost your wedding ring would you consider going this route um here's the deal number one it's gotta be mad expensive right okay good point but i don't have a wedding ring actually i don't have any jewelry i don't have any jewelry at all you know yeah i'm not have you never had a wedding ring no we didn't we were really when i got married to my wife uh it was 2009 and i was about to lose my health insurance

and she was like we could just get married you could be on my health insurance and so the next day we got married in my living room so there wasn't a lot of thought actually my anniversary is as of this recording tomorrow uh that's 14 years i've been married wow happy anniversary yeah no rain that's it yeah i've actually been with her for 20 fucking long years not long that's not what i mean let's get an edit point there we'll get a point no it's like does she listen does she listen to you it's hard to tell a lot of times i know she listens when she knows somebody so she knows you howl uh so i am almost positive she will listen to this episode okay cool wow yeah oh it doesn't listen to anything

anything i put out there yeah and i meant not 20 long years like as in it's long i'm saying for most people 25 years is a long time journey it's felt like 10 minutes you know journey to take with someone 20 years yeah and here's the thing i i don't i i don't think i would go this route now that's because i don't have sentimental attachments to things you know i see yeah so i mean i guess it would bum me out if i lost it i lost an airpod recently and uh one of them not both i lost one airpod that happened to me on my old pair of air pods i just had the one pod so i lost it and i was fucking searching all over my house for it with the find my app which by the way never works it is literally is never once found anything

for me i wonder if the metal detector guys are like kind of find that cool you know yeah they're probably pretty you know what i mean they're like they love to find mine probably you know i mean they're probably like losing their shit on wait how's that app work what's the app do i think it's like you're sending a signal back and forth between the two probably bluetooth or something maybe right it says it's going to play a noise as soon as you get close to it so you sort of just walk around the house it's kind of like metal listen very close for the noise yeah oh that's that is very much like metal detecting it's like digital metal detecting i wonder if there is anyone any people who sort of do that type of you know they set up like a little course

and then you just like put you know you lay down these things and you use just sort of a device to find them i guess there's no point in doing that i mean that sounds like that gps thing that people do where people put a gps marker on oh yes like a little box and they'll stick it under a tree somewhere and then you yes you go out and i wonder i don't know if people still do that but that was that was the thing i guess that is that's similar to that that's sort of digital you know metal detecting i lost i lost an ear an ear it wasn't an airpod but it was one of the one of the in-ear bluetooth things i lost one of them on a walk with my dog and it was just went into

this like field of clover and i could i could i i looked for a while and then i had to walk away and then i heard when it just when the one disconnected and then for like two or three days after that when i would walk that past that spot with my dog it would reconnect and then i would have to walk away and like say goodbye say goodbye to it again while i was like listening to one to one did it did it fall out because was your dog did you get distracted maybe because your dog was like barking a lot this guy had his gate open no actually it's actually i wasn't this was before i had rosie this was i was just walking danny it's actually i wasn't this was before i had rosie this was i was just walking danny and uh this is my older beagle and uh this guy had his gate open and his dogs ran out and i just was it was two dogs and you never quite know when two loose dogs come up what the

vibe is going to be so i immediately popped one out and thought i put it in my little that little that little upper smaller pocket of my jeans and instead i just dropped it straight onto the ground well yeah i'll say this about my airpod thing i have two pairs at all times like so yeah uh yeah i have two pairs of air and i lost that one jumped in my car i looked for it for a half, then jumped in my car and drove and bought another pair of AirPods. Like, immediately. So you need your pods. See, I had AirPods, and then I had AirPod Pros when I lost the one for the AirPods, and then I bought new ones.

Those ones were defective. And then I actually got a new pair. They replaced them, but they don't replace the case and the case is also defective and the case costs 129 and i was just so mad at apple that i just went and bought a different type and then the different type didn't fit in my fucking ears let's talk about metal detectors yeah so i found fucking dare pods do you know this is kind of close to the idea of metal detecting. That's true. How old, do you know Dally, Dall, M-Y-D? I think D-A-L-L-M-Y-D. Jake Cole.

This is the metal fishing guy you've been posting screenshots of. Yeah, a.k.a. Scuba Jake. His name is on. A.k.a. Scuba Jake is the largest underwater treasure hunter on YouTube with over 10 million current subscribers. This is his description. Hailing from Columbus, Georgia. Jake is a skilled and passionate scuba diver who sets off on adventures to explore what may have fallen to the floors of lakes, oceans, canals, and rivers.

So I was looking at his and, and his, his, uh, uh the videos are like we can't play them because it's just like you know audio of a guy like oh yeah in the water we couldn't play him because he like says a bunch of crazy problem problematic while he's finding stuff in a yeah he's just like oh man finding this reminds me of going over to you know he said some country and you're like oh no here we go his videos kill me right because it's like uh if you read the titles uh this one is i found eight guns seven iphones six gopros and five apple watches underwater in the river uh i found a fidget spinner five phones and a bike underwater in the river now the thing that he seems to be an expert in is uh finding murder weapons and he found a leg in a uh in the water so he's a snitch he did he does call the police every it seems to me that he calls the police every single time

he gets in the water here we go uh is it gonna be i did i did watch one of these i watched one of these videos one time where a guy found a gun and he called the police on the video and they were just like yeah okay, they didn't even care. That's what happened when he found, so he found a human leg bone. Like, well, he said it could be a cow leg bone. So, I don't know. I don't know what any leg bone is. There would probably be a pretty big difference between those. I think they might.

I've seen a cow. I don't know, man. I've seen a cow's leg. I've seen my leg. I don't know man i seen a cow's leg i seen my leg i don't know those two things ain't the same i'd be able to tell the difference between those guys this guy doesn't sound too good and also fucking bone leg bone doesn't have no metal in it well he was digging around underwater and he found a gun cheating and then he was like somebody shot somebody shot a leg bone out with the gun and it fell in the well then he's like i did some google i did some googling and i hear that you

found a right leg on the other side of this bridge so i think i found the left leg which he didn't know if it was left but he he called 911. He called the police. 911? That's not an emergency. That's not the type of one they deal with. Well, first he called the police, and he said the police department closes at 5. Okay. He called 911.

He was like, you have to tell them up front it's not an emergency. Yeah, and then they hang up on you that's kind of the uh then they tell you to call 411 or 311 or whatever the yeah it depends on where you are i'm in canada so it's probably different for me what's the number there i don't know i mean it's 9-1-1 you guys use 9-1-1 as well we use 9-1-1 as well but they don't because they don't in like england they use a different they use like zero which 999 maybe somewhere it might be there and somewhere uses 999 i think i will tell you this guys did you you know here's a quick fact uh metal detecting is illegal in uh in england and and uh europe and most of europe wow yeah it's illegal no i would love to see the like history of that law

if it's been around forever if it goes back if it's like a like to when it started or if it like became a problem you know what it might be it might be that uh people are like people were going over there and uh either finding the king's precious treasure that's buried it's buried out behind the castle yeah or people were legit like stealing uh like archaeological stuff of importance and so well that's something i learned guys i can teach you guys all right this is a teachable moment um in archaeologists and metal detector guys don't like each other there is like a a sort of war between them you know that makes sense archaeologists think that they're just coming through and looting and metal detector guys are like well if i didn't fucking go find

the coins then who would find them they would just be there i have a whole a whole guy talking about that actually um here i'll read you this little thing uh plus plus uh as an aside like archaeology is just finding lost wedding rings from a thousand years ago you know if there was a if there was a chris turner back then that's true like the archaeologist wouldn't be able to retrieve the the it's only one of the important historical fact and you're looking at him buddy you're talking to him right now and he wasn't alive back then but i know an archaeologist no way i swear to you i do his name is big jim fridge yeah and i and he and i definitely know him and he is like he's like the head of the archaeology department at a university now he's a

very smart guy and he's an archaeologist yeah nice well he asked him about metal maybe he's not maybe i'm wrong maybe he's not maybe i'm wrong maybe he's i think i think you're right about no i think i'm right but it's something if if not that it's something similar like maybe i'm getting it a little bit wrong and now he's really mad at me because in that type of world you got to get things precise exactly right but i think he's an archaeologist so illegal metal detectorists over in the uk are called night hawkers um so when they go out they're not saying night hawker or night hogger night night hawker i don't think you would want to call yourself a night hogger i don't know no and then

in england if it's not an issue if if you call yourself a night dogger in england let me tell you you got if you look that up what dogging is oh i don't want to well look you should have a dogging episode well we kind of i mean we had sex guys yeah episode is the first one those guys dog so here is the uh this is from our metal detecting larry jr k and his he's a canadian fella god we love it eh yeah you got you guys are so into it and he he titles this play by the rules please and he just posts a story a gang of five night hawkers banned from metal detecting at all britain's historic sites so uh this gang of five metal detector guys were night hawking out there see how i use the lingo pretty good and they got busted great and they got like time in prison

you can get like 10 years for it and uh but who, who is a metal detector guy, a true metal detector guy, W-H-O-O-Z-E, he replies. And he says, ugh, I get it. I do. But to call it robbery when those artifacts would have continued to deteriorate without anyone knowing they even existed is a little ignorant. They're stealing history that we never cared to look for ourselves go ahead and down vote i'm used to it oh shit i'm i'm i'm a i'll be your bad guy i'll be your punching bag if you want i'm used to it this guy's fuck i love that what's that guy's name who said that that? Who's? He's the dark knight of the

metal detectorist community. I know I'm hated. And he's probably hated for some heinous reason. It's something that makes him feel fucking bad. Everyone hates him. Like raiding some African temple. Or no, I mean, yeah.

He said that women can't even hold a metal detector it's like yeah like something he was like really really sexist or something like that and now he's just like go ahead like downvote me like i know you guys but in this in this case i don't know does he have a point maybe or what was was that stuff going to be found by archaeologists? That's my question. It seems like if your problem is a bunch of guys with a bunch of spare time and metal detectors going out and searching all your sites for artifacts and things. Those guys are kind of working for you.

Yeah, just employ them employ them and then get the thing pay them money and get the artifact see what yeah either employ them or do what they're doing in your in your spare time you know like i agree yeah do what but this guy who still has a little bit to say oh but it's like when some poor asshole finds sunken treasure worth millions off the coast of america and then the country who lost the ship in gold like spain says oh hey you found our lost gold we didn't care about it for 200 years but we will claim it as our own now thanks so uh that is yeah i mean he wrote poor and you said it like he was talking about an impoverished person.

A poor person. He meant like some poor asshole. Some poor assholes out treasure hunting. Someone's off the coast of America. That happens a lot where some really poor guy is out there searching for sunken treasure in his boat. I got to find the gold. The Spanish gold I heard is out there searching for sunken treasure in his boat i gotta find the gold the the spanish gold i heard is out here he's just happy and that's such a such a horrible tale as well because this man he spends his whole life he loses his whole family because he's desperate to find the spanish gold

and he finally after the age of 71 he finally gets his hands on it. And then Spain comes back and says, nah, we're taking it back. And this guy's got nothing again. It's a tale as old as time, but it's very sad. And I'm glad Hoos is telling it. Well, PEDS 4x4, P-E-D-S 4x4 responded. And I don't like PEDS at all. Hater. Yeah, I know.

Hold on. and i don't like that at all yeah i don't hold on hold on why don't we do a little um a little gary glitter here um peds four by four said uh it's the law as you probably know all land in uk belongs to someone and anything buried in that land belongs to the landowner so yeah it's still technically theft even if the legal owner has no knowledge of it mind you how the landowner gained ownership is also probably theft if you go back far enough in history so i like peds you like i don't this guy just wants everyone to be guilty of theft you know i, I mean, he's right about the second part, but it's like, come on. I feel like he's being a real. He's being a bit of a. Can I say it on?

He's being a bit of a Karen. He's a little bit of a Karen. He's being a bit of a male Karen in this instance, I would say. Wait, do we even know? We don't know. The whole world is in jail. Everyone is in jail. Wait, do we even know? We don't know this person. Until the whole world is in jail. Everyone is in jail. Well, guess what?

An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind. Peds. And again, I do hate your name. And we don't know that it's, I realize, I don't know. It could not be a guy either. It's a very ambiguous name. Well, then there was a reply from Ass Dan. s s d a n ass tan okay ass dan what do i understand your position on the spain thing but it's not a fair comparison since that took a serious investment and time and money a better better example is that a metal detector survey

was done in 2013 at james madison's estate what if i had snuck onto the property that a metal detector survey was done in 2013 at James Madison's estate. What if I had snuck onto the property with a metal detector in 2000 and removed a bunch of gold coins because I decided the government would never get around to it? Okay, so he's basically saying, hey, it could potentially down the line be something that their family or their whatever a state wants to try to dig up or the or the the government like maybe it's just in committee somewhere whether they can get it yeah well you know what i hey you know what i always say fuck the government yeah i mean when it comes to metal detector laws i do kind of i'm going back to my old anarchist roots here where it's like come on man let me metal detect i agree you should be able to anything that's under the freaking ground like that you know and it's all buried up anybody

once you bury something you have to understand that it could get dug up and taken from you that is that's why you're burying it you understand someone who wants to take it you know it's a good point that's a good point i did find out that like these treasure hunters that's what they you know are coin shooters they call them coin shooters or ring or ring finders sometimes i mean that's a funny thing about all the all the ring finders guys is they all do metal detecting like they all also go out and search and do treasure hunting and it's like this weird i always wonder about this weird ethical line that they're walking where it's like they're all they're trying to find stuff for themselves but they're also helping people retrieve stuff and there's got

to be some weird gray area in there well if you want to ask one of them about it i mean you got a ring finder one of the most famous what how do you walk that line and also what how much uh how much does it cost to get a ring retrieved to get a ring retrieved because you're six hundred dollars okay that way no matter what the ring is no matter how no matter what the ring is and no matter how long it takes you doesn't care it takes me five seconds and it's from a pack of bubble gum and you're paying me six hundred dollars you're paying me cash and then guess what you're paying me installments after that and you're fucking working for me as well i'm only allowed to rent the ring back from you that you found of mine yeah i mean listen your ring's gone your ring's gone you're not getting the ring the ring's

gotten sold a long time ago well guys this is actually when you talk about uh when you talk about that on metal detecting.com which is the message board of metal detectors. That's actually really cool to have the message board just on metal detecting.com. Yeah. I do appreciate that. Um, he,

uh, smooth 23 asks, and there's a whole section of the forum to, for asking permission, like the debate around permission to metal detect um and he says when is it better to ask forgiveness instead of permission and uh he goes farm field whose owner is nowhere to be found presumed owned by a development company and leased usage to a farm crops are down just go until asked to leave or avoid so he's asking uh i mean you

know nobody's here why would i ask permission and real foot relic says if you owned it or was part of a group that owned it would you want someone to ask for permission i would reply no well okay i would say no i wouldn't i wouldn't want that actually thanks for asking would you be mad if somebody i know chris you don't have a backyard how you have a backyard right i have a backyard yeah i know i need you to pretend you have a backyard there's no i've had a backyard there's no need to sort of i mean i also live in vancouver let's remember you ever had a front yard chris oh yeah i mean when i was growing up i had a front and backyard yeah okay cool oh i played out there a lot i mean i had some nice yards definitely i had a side yard like it wrapped around you know i had the side yard and the backyard okay all right yeah well

it was still just a rancher it wasn't like a big house or anything it was still just like a one level ranch or whatever but it was in a cul-de-sac and you know some very cool skateboarders skateboarded out i've mentioned this before skateboard out in front of my house because my neighbors had uh like quarter pipe and a full like almost skate park and so some people skateboarding fans will know this people colin mckay sluggo, Moses O'Connor, all came and skateboarded out in front of my house. Did they give you like a wedgie and kick you back into the house?

In your driveway? No, no. First off, both of you were saying, I think one of them was insulting. One of them was just a question. You guys can guess who was doing what. But no, they, I mean, they were't really they were already established they were already professional skateboarders when they came you know but anyways let's get back to metal detecting well real foot relic said uh if you deliberately well when he replies to this smooth replies this he goes if you deliberately divest

and hide assets behind an llc do you have a moral right to be angered when people can't find you to ask? I'm not saying using an LLC is wrong, though. So I was kind of his answer. You were sorry. I derailed that. I apologize because you were asking how about the yard. Did you what were you going to say about the yard? If somebody came out to your house, if you looked out the window and somebody was metal detecting in your yard,

what's your response here? That's a great question. I don't... This is the best question he's ever had on the podcast. Thank you. I appreciate it. Can I tell you, what's amazing about this question

is this literally did happen to me wow like one month ago fucking question keeps getting fucking better even after he asked it that's what's so crazy about this and i didn't even think about it when we i have not thought about it again until until just now but uh i woke up one morning and heard my gate opening. And that freaks me out and pisses me off because mainly not because I think someone's going to steal my precious gold treasure in the backyard. And because that means I can't let my dogs out. And the idea that someone might just open my gate means that my dogs could be let free at any at any time. In that sense, you're very much you're like Mark Maron when it comes to your gate.

Lock the gate, yes. Lock the gate! Lock the gate! That's actually from Almost Famous. Yeah, I know. I'm a what the fucker. I'm a what the fuck, Nick. What the fucking here.

I used to say that shit at the beginning of the show. That very day, we went out and got a bike lock to put on our gate because we didn't want people just opening our gate anymore but here's the thing you had the bike lock so you could lock the gate lock the gate mark maron style and uh they were from our sewer like our whatever metro sewage people they were from there were surveyors from the city looking for the sewage pipeline under my yard which was built incorrectly years and years and years ago and now goes under my house which is apparently very bad they're good they're for a good reason they're for yeah yeah yeah Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But it was a guy metal detecting, trying to find the pipe in my backyard.

Oh, I see. So they were metal detecting on behalf of the government. On behalf of the government. Well, that's interesting that government's talking shit now because I'm all pissed now because the government themselves is metal detecting. They are using the technology. They have the detectors.'re and they're using them they don't just have them they're using them and yet they they dare to say like oh you can't metal detect on this area or whatever nah fuck that well let's look at uh metal detector.com elite member bigalicious had something to say big bigalicious that is like this guy delicious it's not digalicious it's digalicious yeah yeah yeah digalicious yeah that's a great name

digalicious we're saying digalicious yeah he's an elite member and he said in my city there's a city park right in the core of downtown it's exactly two blocks by two blocks and has been the home of concerts fairs games sports etc etc for the last 120 years i've been reluctant to hunt it mainly because of the amount of addicts in the park this guy the police are often there or driving around the perimeter and the park has two security guards from 9 a.m to 9 p.m daily i definitely wouldn't go there at night this guy i mean this guy's very scared all the time in his life i feel like yeah yeah i wanted to hunt there during the day so last sunday i put on my yellow and red safety vest and dived in okay so never mind i i misjudged him so he's very tough

he's very cool and tough that's my my apologies the reason i wanted to read this is putting on like a safety vest and driving into the city during the day because you're scared if you have the vest on it like they do you think it gives you like safety like it's it's called a safety vest just because it has a reflection on it right it doesn't keep you safe from like danger in other ways people can still beat you up and assault you you. Someone is hunting for deer in the tiny city park that has no trees in it. I've actually been robbed in a safety vest, actually. I guess they didn't see the vest. They definitely saw the vest.

They fucking saw a guy with a job. a job right ready to come and get me um but uh yeah i was i was up on top of a ladder working on the cable and my safety vest and two guys stood at the bottom of the ladder waiting for me to come down so that they could they could rob me i was like uh man it'd be nice if i didn't have that safety vest wow um but he goes uh the first thing i noticed was that the addicts ignored me numerous of them walked right by me i said hi and they said hi back now he's acting like he's like the weird thing was they were these people they were acting like uh people They were people. It was weird. They were interacting with me as if they were just similar to me,

just possibly falling on hard times and dealing with some struggles in their life and just trying to get through it in a way that I don't necessarily understand. It was quite odd. I have to say the shitheads were the cops and that surprised him the most, right? No, no. He goes, plenty of non-addicts walk by me too, were the cops and that surprised him the most right it's gotta be something no no he goes plenty of non-addicts walk by me too but just ask if i found anything or had some questions about detecting that i happily answered it's like a service like in one way you're like he's out

there providing a metal that he's out there with his metal detector answering questions about metal detecting to maybe try to get people into the metal detecting hobby but he also is kind of like one of those guys that's afraid to go into the city so it's hard to tell how i feel about it old he seems old i don't want to be judgment but to me he seems old um ditto for the two security guards the security guards thought the vest was a great idea and the only reason why i wasn't being bothered by the addicts was because they were thinking i'm a city worker oh yeah yeah yeah and only the 1.5 hours i was able to hunt there on that first try and he if you guys need to know he did it with a six inch coil or a six foot coil so that was

what he used he said i bagged the usual clad wonder when you with a six inch coil or a six foot coil so that was what he used he said i bagged the usual clad wonder when you said a six inch coil i was gonna six foot yeah to me a six inch six inch coil that sounds fucking massive to me that's like funny wait yeah i mean that's humorously large to me six inches i mean that's just you kidding me i can't imagine something of that size it does six the two things is six inches it's inches definitely yeah so six inches so i you know i think i don't never think i've seen anything smaller than six inches to tell you the truth i've never seen it what i haven't seen anything smaller than like eight inches i've never seen a thing so what kind of what kind of bath houses are you going to

i constantly have seen i've seen anyways so here's what he found he found six pieces of bling. Now that is metal detector slang for jewelry. Metal detector. And also used to be, you know, hip hop 2003 hip hop. Is that where they got it? Or like where, where,

which came first? I don't know about that. I actually, there's a, there's a jewel video from when jewel went from folk to pop where she's like dancing in front of a big uh sign that says bling at one point maybe they got it jewelry bling maybe they got it from that jewel video yeah you think it was jewel i mean how you how i mean i gotta ask you here you know we're on record you really think it was jewel yeah i think they're all

big jewel i think they're all big jewel fans and they loved it when she crossed over to the pop charts they uh who will save your soul that's her right yeah yeah i thought it was a night hawk guy that listens to rap you know what i mean like yeah you could be get the night hawker out there he's like hey i heard this fucking rap song about bling bling and you know we find a lot of bling bling here so i think if you're a metal detector guy though and you're not listening to metal you're really missing an opportunity to go into the record store with your with your rig and be like beep beep beep there beep beep there it is there's what i want right that's fucking funny dude that's what you do that's what i would actually do yes yeah

i found a do album oh it's this fucking iron maiden you don't turn it on because it might fuck up something in the in the store but like uh you know but you definitely make the beep sound with your voice as you wave it over the you do it as a joke but you really turn it on and yeah you fucking ruin a bunch of like the equipment and shit we do know authority hates metal detector guys so the worker there probably wouldn't love that they're doing it you know yeah um he goes he goes so this is what he found he found uh six pieces of bling one of which is a 14 carat ring with stones one is a gold colored leaf pendant that is heavy and definitely looks like gold but has no markings one of the other pendants is silver and hefty, but has no markings.

Anyway, the potential of this site is incredible. I can't wait to get back there. And he goes, what would happen if I asked someone at City Hall to detect there? Guaranteed they would have said no, which would mean I created a damn good reason not to hunt there. So this guy, he fucking went in there

and found some stuff, and he was like, I'll never ask. I mean, that is that is kind of true anytime you ask city hall if you can do something they're gonna be like i mean something like that i definitely agree he's done the right thing and just going and doing it i think you wait until someone stops you from doing it then you plead ignorance you know at that point is your best best way to do it but i do i i just it feels bad agreeing with this guy because i feel like i would really dislike him yeah oh no i shouldn't say that

like i would be annoyed by him like i would find he would probably be a sort of an annoying guy but these people are pretty harmless as we've discussed these are pretty nice sounding people generally that we're dealing with here and one of the things I've learned from watching Ringfinders videos from various people in that organization is that they are worried about that kind of guy

because if like it's been two weeks since the guy lost his wedding ring and you gotta go to Kitts Beachcouver or something kits beach wow it's so you know places oh i know places now i know i know little bits and pieces can you tell me some other vancouver places uh let me just go over uh yeah chris's house stefan's house john's house those are all very close to each other, by the way. For now, John's moving.

Calgary. I know that. But they're worried about one of the things, if time has passed, one of the things that Chris Turner, the other Chris Turner, will mention is like, oh, well, it's been a few weeks and people do treasure hunt on this beach. So, you know, it might be a lost cause. And that hurts

him because as i've as i've said he's very passionate about getting people's rings back to them getting them back well i did find some metal detecting jokes oh you guys would be interested in yes some metal detecting jokes number one a metal detectorist walks into a bar he was quickly kicked out when he asked why he was told quote discrimination is not allowed so i don't i don't get it hang on you know what okay i think i can parse this i think i can figure this out so Really? Yes. I think probably. So they use different frequencies when they're looking for different kinds of metals. And it's probably called discrimination. Like determining, like getting rid of.

Oh, it's a term. Yeah, it's probably a term that for like if you're looking for something and there's like rebar in the concrete around where you're looking, you want to that whatever frequency or whatever you want to eliminate that probably right probably discrimination is probably what they say uh when they're when they're filtering out metals so these jokes are for metal detector people these are not like jokes about metal detecting for the general public okay once you've heard that thing i just made up it's pretty damn funny right yeah pretty yeah now now i am laughing yeah number two why was the metal detector always so unhappy why it was because it was constantly feeling metal. Now, everybody's in their car like, this is, I'm dying right now.

I can't even breathe. That's because I'm constantly feeling metal. It's very hard. See, metal, I guess, is now, this I feel like is, because I'm not familiar with the term metal, meaning something negative or sad or having that different, maybe M E D a L. Even then though,

I don't metal M E D D L E. I don't think, I don't see any of those as meaning what it's the joke is inferring. So I'm very, I am confused by this one and I don't think it's a metal detecting issue. I do think that like feeling metal must be a thing you say like i'm gonna go out and feel some metal but i think they're saying like metal as in heavy metal is unhappy yeah that's what i'm saying i maybe i can get to like i'm

out there feeling metal that i can wrap my head around but i just don't know how that means that they're unhappy what about this what about this i i got one really quick on that and that just to piggyback on that one i think uh uh um why do why does a metal detector hate its mother-in-law why because she's always med meddling oh she always meddling in things that's in their relationship you say neighbor too like nosy neighbor yeah why why does it yeah it could you could really because he was always meddling yeah that's fucking funny what about better what about this why did the metal detector go to the bar answer we've been to a bar twice because we love going to bars uh to search for lost coins in the couch cushions yeah no that's just kind of like a good idea that's sort of

changing course joke wise there that one was no wordplay yeah that was very directed to the point and i don't know that i would call it a joke call it a joke i wouldn't i wouldn't it's somewhat delivering it if they were like to search for coins what about this what about this in the yeah cushion why did the metal detector go to the library okay to read a book to search for lost keys between the books ah yes yes that's how people generally would uh keep their place in a book is by putting their key into it wait no that's there's got to be something in the library there's got to be to look for literary gold you know to yeah yeah yeah there's got to be some something you can say about a metal detector walking into a bookstore. Yeah.

Something about someone with a silver tongue, perhaps. What about this? Why did the metal detector go to the garage sale? To get some items. Get some items at a good price. To search for hidden treasures among the clutter. I mean, that's what I... That's i mean that's what i that's basically that's what i said that's such a cute joke i mean that's really good i love that

that one is like that one is like very very nice that one is very nice that joke sort of acts like it invented the idea that there are treasures to be found at a yeah you know it's like it's acting like actually if you think about it there might be some treasures there in the clutter i love that joke because it's so nice it reminds me of uh my friend howell doughty one of the nicest guys i know not like some of the not like some of the fucking swine we've had on uh so far on the according to brian i've enjoyed all of them i find and all all of them are my friends why was the metal detector feeling so restless uh i mean there's a lot of it you know issues. Diet could be a diet issue.

Not enough sleep is obviously the first thing you go to there. Because it was beeping because there was metal nearby. You were close. You guys were kind of close. The punchline is it was experiencing metal somnia. Yeah. I was going to say that. I was going to say that. I was going to say that.

You were like, that's an awesome joke. I was like fucking dancing around Metal Somnia. We both were. We were just like doing the dance around Metal Somnia. If you would have given Hal and I probably 30 more seconds

riffing, we would have gotten to Metal Somnia. Where are these compiled? Where are these? Oh, it's 27metaldetectorjokes from metaldetectingtips.com. Hell yeah. So I got a Quora thing here that I wanted to do here.

Somebody asks, do people judge you for metal detecting? And Amberlee Brown, who has been active in the hobby since 2015 answered yes something you some think you are just destroying ground and stealing history some think you are treasure hunting and don't care about the land or history some think you are rich something some think you only find gold some think you're working for the city or a contractor to find utilities and are confused that could be good fun and ever heard of a park where there's a

lot of uh you know uh people that you're scared of there and you might want them to think that you work for the city by wearing a vest i mean would you like i think if i saw somebody with a metal detector walking around i would 90 percent of the time think they were at work so that is a good point and yeah like howell's story they were right it was working people who were doing it so it would make sense that yeah they would be the ones who would be doing it but i mean i guess yeah because if you're only seeing them briefly like if you saw him just sort of wandering around the park doing it i would be less inclined to think this person's working but yeah you're not going to be if you're sitting in the park watching the guy do it you might think oh this guy seems like just a treasure hunter you

know what i mean like he's just although maybe not even maybe you think he's looking for something on behalf of the city so you're right it is i think that is definitely you could easily get away with it just putting a vest on i think the vest is pretty critical to looking like a worker because a lot of times you just see a guy in like bermuda shorts on the beach with a metal detector that guy's not at work although i think it's funny for people to assume that these guys that these guys are rich that's very that's like sitting there thinking like ah he's got everything he's got that little thing that finds money on his vacation he must be rich

i think they're rich i agree with the people i'm not just trying to be contrarian i i really do think that they're rich the people do it i just think that it's like it's a hobby or old and retired i guess but it's just like the hobby of somebody who has like a lot of free time and is like looking for some like weird excitement or something. I don't know about rich, but I think like well off. Well, he also says this, which we learned from the last guy. Some are judging if you are worth attacking for your fines. If you are the dangerous person, if they should let you hunt their yard humans judge it's in our nature i don't like when a guy says that at all you know like when they editorialize

on that type of thing about human nature i'm generally hunting alone on friends property so i get a lot of strange looks from the neighbors i'll usually say hello and explain what i'm up to if i have time what else are you doing like if you have time you're metal detecting i'm sorry i have so little time i am scouring every inch of this ground for a coin for something yeah for like a quarter yeah he goes uh dump uh i'll show them some clad and a nail or two which i don't that's some slang i think we don't know and if that's i mean i i would i wouldn't be surprised if that's like literally he just means he like pulls out a nail and says hey i found look i found this nail a nail though right let's look what clad is i do have a uh oh no clad isn't even oh clad new coins

which have been formulated with mostly non-precious metals so that's what clad is uh so like crap like stuff that's like not exciting for them like they don't care about it or whatever it's like not a penny would be clad yeah like just like a new coin yeah yeah absolutely that could be a cool thing you could you know like this it's like saying something's mid be like this shit is the shit's clad hey man this is clad like my friends in the metal detecting community say yeah um he goes uh so he gets uh he goes uh if i have an interest no value item like a lock hot wheels car anything with local business on it i'll show them that i don't share silver coins jewelry jewelry or rare item if someone makes them because they will just beat you senseless right there and take it like like smiegel in the lord of the rings

it will beat the living fucking shit out of you and steal your bling um if someone makes a fuss and i'm not hunting a permission yard i.e if i'm at a park or hunting the grass between the sidewalk and street i'll just moved on to reduce friction the cops in my old neighborhood got used to seeing me in empty lots and would drive by repeated to check on me. Being friendly with the local officers helps a lot if someone really misjudges you. So he's been doing it for four years. I want to know how old the people are. To me, it's all old people, right?

That's what I imagine. It's like old people doing it, but maybe that's not the case. I don't know i i couldn't get a uh i mean it's a lot of like the squarest people in the world compared to the other people we've talked about even compared to the hot sauce guys yeah which oh yeah hot sauce guys can be kind of cool i think though do you know i mean like i know a lot of people who are cool who are into hot sauce yeah they have like a uh a kind of a sick sense of humor that the metal detector guys don't don't really have you know well if i can bring if i can bring up chris turner uh once again the founder of ring finders uh global organization uh so he has been posting

around the world YouTube videos for like 14 years and at the start of it he just looked like a guy in his he just looked like a guy in his fort like a very regular white guy in his 40s right uh and then he he's he now after all these years of being a uh of being a metal detectorist and ring fighter he's like in it he's in his 60s and he looks like a guy in the future that like builds bombs or something like he wears these crazy like round uh sunglasses with the that have the the part that goes over your face and he has like he has a he has like a gray ponytail he has i think he has like gold teeth now he looks awesome he looks so cool now and i find the teeth like out like do what acting did do you think he found the tea i don't know he probably did he probably did use collected metal yeah to make his gold teeth i'm sure he makes all this stuff out of that you know i'm

sure he does if i know anything about him and i do because it's me and yeah i do well what about this look i gotta say you just it's amazing been watching your evolution over the last like decade and a half important to evolve he became a star uh the treasure hunter is so awesome well i saw the guy i was watching and now he's you he's so clearly like using his youtube channel as a way to write things off which is hey i do the same fucking thing so that's smart that's very smart now he's like now now he's like i spent a week metal detecting at a very expensive resort here's what i found that's the way to do it uh here he goes no here's is that mr beast sangle is that what he is that all how he's able to do all these things is because he

writes all that shit off is that what oh another mr beast hater oh so sorry that he helped so many people i just don't i i don't understand where he's like he's like i ate a i ate a twenty thousand dollar pizza today and i'm like is that is that just a full write-off he's weird oh i i'm sure in some way i don't know mr beast is a fucking weird part of the society that we live in do you guys want to hear a silly metal we got another mr beast hater okay all right i do hate mr beast let me tell you if i had the chance oh man kiss him so here's a silly metal detecting song and then we'll uh get out of here all right verse one i wake up early on a saturday i grab my metal detector and head out the gate i search the

fields the forest and the beaches too i'm on the hunt for hidden treasures old and new here comes the chorus i'm a metal detector a treasure hunter too i'm always on the lookout for something shiny and new i love the thrill of the search the excitement of the find i'm a metal detector and i'm one of a kind oh so that's just like a blog post where someone typed out the lyrics to a song is that right is that a real song it's a real song verse two i found coins no no it's not a real real like someone hasn't recorded the song that is a great art form is just writing lyrics to a song that doesn't exist and posting it somewhere for people to send this to howell and then yeah no no how how wait wait when does the

episode come out yeah because don't don't save on here i guess but we can talk about maybe maybe if we maybe how and i could just like do something quick you know like we'll do us do the song and song for him if if it's a little lead up afterwards and then put it at the end of the episode how much yeah how much time is there before how much time is there left before this comes out i mean before it comes out oh uh tuesday the 20th you, this could come out in three weeks. Three weeks. Three weeks. We wanted it.

Three weeks. We could do this. We could do this. Next week is. Well, let's not say. Don't say on the episode. So it would be the 28th is when this would come out. Okay.

That's two weeks. That's two weeks. Well, I could do it. We'll see. We won't promise it. We won't promise it now. We're not going to promise it. But if it happen who knows could be a little surprise here's the bridge i've traveled far and wide to find my treasure i've braved the rain and the scorching sun

i've searched in valleys and on mountain peaks i'll never give up till my treasure's one yes yeah go to verse three i've found artifacts from ancient civilizations i've uncovered secrets from the deep i've discovered treasures that were long forgotten i'm always amazed by what i keep and then we got us you're the one who keeps it why are you amazed by now what oh you're you're amazed at the ones and then you keep them okay amazed at how good the ones i keep yeah actually continue to be they they don't age uh so what style are you guys hearing this in i mean i mean to me it's a fucking hardcore rock and roll but it's like to be honest with you that's what's always fucking coursing through my veins because i'm fucking hardcore rock and roll kind of guy you know like

or metal or rock i would think metal you know what i mean i mean we're talking metal detectors i'm hearing like an iron maiden type of yeah i can do the scream vocals you know like i i'm killer at it so i just texted you guys texted you guys the page with all the jokes on it. One last thing here. We're just going to look at a couple of metal detector slang words, see if you guys can figure out what it is. What do you think a zink in it? Z-I-N-C-O-L-N.

That's when you shit and a little bit of blood comes out of it with there in there okay spell that again for me one more time z-i-n-c-o-l-n zinc and these are about these are about metal detectors oh oh i know what that is that must be like a that must be a special uh what penny from like a wartime where they didn't have enough copper or something and they mixed zinc in or something that's gotta be what that is okay zinc and i can tell by the way brian responded that that's just dead wrong it's just not even close he's like okay you know like okay that's an interesting and wrong uh answer that's what that's what i heard uh i'm like talking to a child i'm gonna say that i i mean a zincum is what it's zinc zinc z-i-n-c-o-l-n i would say maybe is there

like a type of metal detector that uses like zinc or something and so you're out there you're zinc and you're using the zinc kind that's my guess that i know is wrong at least canadian so we can't really blame them it's a zinc formulated lincoln scent often in poor condition not a desirable target so uh i don't know i think it was like i was like as bad as dead on as you can you were right yeah yeah what about this one what what is that what's the never mind i don't understand what's this one down down here a penny is a cent yeah and we don't have pennies we don't have our pennies okay well down here a cent is true we don't have pennies anymore we used to but we don't anymore you still have two cents no we don't have two cent pieces five cents

is the smallest small that's against the poor people for real well not really inflation is against the poor people and that was we want to get into that inflation is meant the penny is now useless and yes inflation as the concept does it goes against poor people i And that was, we want to get into that inflation is meant the penny is now useless. And yes, inflation as a concept does, it goes against poor people. I agree on that. Next question. We had this old president who you guys would call a prime minister and he had a top hat, which I don't know what you guys call that, but his name was Abraham. Okay. So he had a big flat toque and he was, he was the prime minister aka president of our country and we put him on our one what do you mean the queen in the queen one fifth of five

cent piece you mean the queen that's what you put on the money you put the queen on the money no he was our queen briefly oh i see okay now it's true what do you guys think a tot lot tour is t-o-t next word l-o-t last word t-o-u-r tot lot tour tot lot tour that would be oh i know i know it's when you bring your kids to go metal detecting tots they'd bring your tots and you take them out to metal detect with you on a tour show them a lot that makes sense i'll i'll offer an uh an alternative one which is it's when you go uh to all of the children's playgrounds in town to see if anybody dropped anything at those tot lot holy shit how you're a metal detector guy it is arriving from park to park to quickly detect the children's

area for valuables especially popular on monday mornings which that is such a sketchy thing because that's like moms who dropped their fucking shit while they were trying to get their kids out of the park that was not so good um but i also i can see i don't want to like call howl up but i can see like a reflection off his face like he's got Google up he's doing sort of a Googling thing here but it's all good if it's that important to you to win you just take it man it's not to me it doesn't even

matter I don't care about this shit I got more important stuff to worry about what about this here you're taking this really well yeah it's fine listen I don't want to i don't want to get into how things went on the dough boys episode with the real or fake but i did not i did not fare well at that that's all i'll say this might have something to do with that still looking at

how i can get a hot sauce out called hot fart juice for everybody that is uh listening i'm going to surprise that's not a real that's not a real one oh so was i i was fucking sorry sorry i'm really you were about to call me a fucking something you're so bad what about this one here here uh let's let's find a good one so is that you idiot hot rock hot rock hot rock wait is this a hot sauce real or fake there can't be a hot rock okay a hot rock i mean i'm gonna say a hot rock is I'm going to say a hot rock is I mean just a rock maybe just a rock that's hot

you know what I mean like the sun heats it up and it gets it all hot and therefore you can't step on there with your little tootsies so you have to put on your special shoes to cover up your little tootsies am I right? that could be it I don't think i'm gonna be don't condescend me i'm gonna go a little i'm gonna go a little i don't think i know what this is but i'm gonna guess something

out a little out of the box i guess but like a hot rock could be like a metal detector or a rig that's like especially that's been very lucky for you like your hot rock could be like a metal detector or a rig that's like, especially that's been very lucky for you. Like your hot rock. Like you pull out. That's a good guess. You're both wrong. Yeah. I figured that's a rock.

It gives off a metallic signal and makes detecting difficult. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I should have guessed that one last one here. I think we will go with Coinball.

Coinball. Now I know this one. So I'll let Hal go first on this one because I know this one 100%. Coinball. Coinball. Coinball. Actually, let's do a different one. I sorry i well wait coinball here i'll guess

something for coinball and that is that it is a sport where uh two guys on either sides of a of a stretch of beach will throw a coin down into the sand and the guy who finds it first wins the game of coinball oh i would love that i would play that i it's a i watched a new segment where the jersey ring finder guy who's a very funny italian guy in jersey uh like got the got a newscaster to walk along the beach and he threw pen he like threw nickels or pennies into the sand and like made her try to find him uh it was pretty pretty charming little video uh what is the oh chris you gotta you gotta guess well he already said what it is it's a coin inside a big ball of dirt which i already knew yeah okay here's the last one before we get out of here guys uh can

slaw pan c-a-n slaw s-l-a-w oh i hang on can slaw i mean to me it seems similar to the rock one i'm gonna guess which is that it's like where you think you found something and it turns out to be fucking cans or whatever you know um because i would imagine they find a lot of cans that those would set off the metal detector so that's when you hit a hit some cans or whatever that mistake for treasure howell what do you think can's law is i think he's i think chris is right on this one i think uh and maybe maybe there is some way that they've been like shredded up like through maybe it's just referring to like a big cluster of them or something like that holy shit oh you're a metal detector guy well cancel is when you run over a can with a lawnmower and it makes it hard to search the area oh wow well i was kind of right no no chris you were totally right he basically wouldn't

have even got that idea had it not been for mine. So it's just like he was in many ways piggybacking off mine. In many ways, it's like I'm like sort of, I guess, the innovator of the idea. And then he sort of, you know, my point being that, I guess, call it even. We'll call it a draw on the game. Yeah. Well, how one, but we'll call it a draw. I know. I definitely won. I definitely won that one. one it doesn't matter who wins it's actually pathetic to care everybody

gets a trophy on guys everybody millennials though it's actually so sad to care about this kind of thing it's such a loser thing yeah care about well guys that was metal detector guys howell tell people where to find you uh well you can find me on uh twitter at howell dot e h o w e double l d a w d y i got a few podcasts twitch stream big howell dotty uh howell dotty's fast track a big how impossible podcast um yeah and i and i do recommend look chris the the ring finder the main ring finder guy he's only got like he's only got like 6 000 uh youtube subscribers and his videos are so charming and enjoyable they're uh uh they're very funny but also there's a lot of like heart put into them

yeah there is i'm glad that comes through very terrible editor wonderful ring finder so uh i recommend checking him out uh but i don't i don't recommend fucking with him or giving him shit the way that the way that people tend to ruin every like weird guy that they find i don't recommend doing that we don't we don't fuck with people on guys chris cool been fun not even a show yeah i do not even a show i um i haven't made youtube videos chris made everyone mad oh no we can't talk about that because it was a long time ago then. But wait, I'll make everyone mad again. Okay. Well, here's the thing.

Here's the thing. Patreon.com slash MurderXBrian. That's where you can find my shit. And I think I'm going to do a Jeff Dunham series after I finish this TED series. So we're going to have some Jeff Dunham talk. And Twitch.tv slash murder x brian for twitch streams and uh we will see you next week with probably discovery channel guys unless we decide to release this in three weeks and you just heard discovery channel guys goodbye