Guys: With Bryan Quinby - Guys: Episode 84 -Esports Guys with Felix Biederman

Episode Date: September 10, 2024

We finally went and did it! We brought one of our best friends Felix Biederman from Shocktober and of course Chapo Trap House on to talk about America's fastest growing sport, video games. So strap in... for a guy that went to r/gamer for marriage advice and a lot of goofing off. We also did a good amout of shock jock talk at the end for everyone. It is kind of like when a band gets back together and jams hence the runtime See Guys Live in October bit.ly/top3weekendon 10/11 and 10/12 we will be performing at the Biltmore Cabaret in Vancouver. Come hang out with, Chris an I and the Blocked Party guys!!! There is much more Chris at twitter.com/thecjs and of course https://www.patreon.com/notevenashow And for more Guys content, streams and SHOCKTOBER: a deep dive into shock jocks you can click patreon.com/GuysPodcast twitter.com/murderxbryan and  https://bsky.app/profile/murderxbryan.bsky.social   Guys is on Instagram! https://www.instagram.com/guys.pod Guys has a Post Office Box now! PO Box 10769 Columbus Ohio 43201 .  

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to guys, a podcast about guys. I am Brian. I'm here with Mr. Easy mode Chris James hi Chris mr. easy mode so this is yeah that's um that's a huge gamer insult it's like cutting a samurai's top knot off somebody playing easy And I game, I play video games just to spoiler alert. Well, I'll believe it when I see it. I mean, I literally play it on Twitch. You can actually watch videos of me doing it.
Starting point is 00:00:54 I'm not gonna do that. You only do it for money. You only do it on Twitch. I barely, I don't really make money. I don't do very well. I mostly, I play with Rob Wiseman and Stefan. That's what we get together once a week and play rocket league. And sometimes I'll play on stream, but I just, I just to say, I've played enough video games to be severely insulted by that
Starting point is 00:01:15 easy mode crack. And we have as a guest for the first time, because for almost over a year I've been panicking. Felix Biederman is here, hi Felix. Hello, thank you for having me. It has been a delight to watch the ascendancy of guys. It is, I am gonna say this, analytics on the scene but it feels true. The fastest growing podcast in America. In the history of America is what I've heard, yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:44 I mean, it is the only like new new podcast where like I actually see people organically talking about it. Yeah, it's weird. But we wanted to get you. I've wanted you on since the very beginning, but I also wanted you on a good episode. Like I didn't want to just bring you like there are some episodes where we bring someone on and I'm not going to name any of them, but we bring someone on just because, Hey, this guy's funny and he, he,
Starting point is 00:02:14 he can talk about anything. And I wanted to make sure that when you came on, it was something that you knew about that I don't. So what I do is I bring you on. This is without a doubt of all the podcasts I've done, including real ale guys, the hardest one I've ever had to press. Wow. And that's why is that? Of course. Yeah, that's surprising to me.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Is it just there was too much you didn't really know where to start or? I don't know what anybody's fucking Talking about all that you're welcome to me on every fucking episode No, I I get what you mean. It's like you have to like learn chemistry shit Yeah, no It is an unenviable position to be it. It's like I start looking stuff up and it's like, oh, you know, and then he no-scoped.
Starting point is 00:03:08 And sometimes, and you're just- I mean, no-scope is, you can figure it out. Right, I understand what that is. I'm not that, but there are other things. I didn't know, the thing I learned about an hour ago, actually, that is very funny and I can't personally, I can only find one review of it, is that there are coaching sites.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Oh my God, yeah. It's called Mac, something, there's Gamer Sensei, which I can't find a single review of, but the people on the eSports subreddit are like, if you search Reddit Gamer Sensei, it says do not use gamer sensei. So this is a service to coach people? I mean I guess that makes sense. And these are you'd have to be like a professional or something like that to be.
Starting point is 00:03:56 I don't think so dude. That's sort of the problem with it is that there is no credentialing or certification system as you might imagine and this this was actually, you know, Fortnite is still an incredibly popular game, obviously, but do you remember when Fortnite was like, sort of in the main culture, like guys like when Drake and Ninja did that stream and shit, like when it was really ascending?
Starting point is 00:04:18 When my daughter played it. Yeah, yeah. Like everyone was playing it. And during that period, and sort of the birth of competitive Fortnite, there was a trend of like, content creators who, you know, often were also competitive Fortnite players where they would be like, Oh, I hired a Fortnite coach from Reddit, but then I owned him in a one v one. a Fortnite coach from Reddit, but then I owned him in a one v one. And like, obviously, like, you know, like most, most gaming videos on YouTube, like completely staged, like the coaches just like clearly it like a child, seven year old, or
Starting point is 00:04:58 like a guy doing the worst fucking acting you have ever heard in your life where he's like, what? This is ridiculous. You outbuilt me. Like infomercial acting. But you know, it is a real thing. And like there is like, I did not know about the Reddit, the one where it's like a Sylvan Learning Center for video game coaching. That's dark. It's called Gamer Sensei. And the way that you can kind of tell it's a ripoff is that there are on the website. So I go to the website and I'm like, what are the requirements to become a coach?
Starting point is 00:05:42 And in order to find those, you have to give them your email address and your phone number. Yeah, I just I'm not I know I've been talking about this with hockey like all summer. I was like me and my wife decided we like going to games and there's a hockey rink like right down the street for me and I was like I going to see if we can get some season tickets. I went to the website and they're like, give me your phone number and your address and your name and we'll have a ticket specialist get a hold of you. And I was like, I'm never getting season tickets for anything ever. I don't want to talk to a specialist.
Starting point is 00:06:18 And when I went, I'm on gamer sensei now and it says become a sensei, make money. First of all, kind of also offensive and just like I don't know is a guy who like you know he can float he can kick a fly off your head isn't someone who's just like kind of good at Counter-Strike? And it all it asks you is your name, your gamertag, your email, your phone number, your gender, your birthday, the game you coach. And then it says, please describe your prior coaching experience, which is like. So there you go. So they are making sure that there is some, you know, you have something
Starting point is 00:07:01 world a lie about Chris. Well, no one would lie about it though. I mean, you know, so one would lie about it, though. So at least they're getting something there. They want to see your previous coaching. And I'm sure, yeah, they're probably doing some checking of references, I would imagine. I would imagine, yes.
Starting point is 00:07:15 There are like, so in the e-sports world, where there are seven-figure prize pools and there are all these spots, There is real money in this stuff. Any real team that, let's just use Counter-Strike for an example, any team that is consistently in majors, which are CSGO tournaments where there's a million or multimillion dollar prize pool. How many majors are there in a year? It depends. 2020 kind of threw things off.
Starting point is 00:07:52 I think like two or three usually. But all those to any real team like FaZe or something like that, they have coaches. They have coaches. You know, they have coaches. But like when they're saying previous coaching experience, I do not imagine that like a guy who worked for like a real team like Liquid or FaZe where they're making like probably pretty good money, they fucked up so bad that they have to apply
Starting point is 00:08:21 to be like a game sense. That would be someone who was, they were at the center of like a massive scandal or something, you know, they did something terrible. That's like a movie though. I mean, I've seen a lot of movies and that does have a very similar script to a movie. You know, somebody's right at the top and then boom, now they're having to start from the bottom
Starting point is 00:08:42 as a game sense. I do have some information for you guys though. So for I've found how I could sign up for game sensei, which I will not be doing. Maybe Chris, I'll pay for you to do it because if you need help anyway, you're not very good. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. So I'm signing up as a coach or as a student. Okay. And so you start out with a skills assessment, which will cost you $24.99, which is very funny. $45 or so to tell you suck shit. Or you're good either way that and they're not going to tell you you suck. They're then going to tell you, you could use some advanced coaching, which costs $44.99.
Starting point is 00:09:28 How much do you get for that? How much coaching? Does it specify the amount of hours? That's what's cool about it. It does not, so it's probably about a half an hour. This is one of the greatest schemes to rob children I have ever seen. Great child robbing schemes in my time. You know exactly what they do.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Brian's completely right that these seven-year-olds are sending them their Fortnite clips where they're recording their TV with their phone or their iPad and you barely can make out what's happening. And the scumbags running this are like, hey, you're really good, but there's just like some technique things. Can you go to your mom's purse and get her fucking visa? Our first mission,
Starting point is 00:10:18 you're gonna need to go ultra stealth mode. Well, there is an expert coaching level to which is 59 99. And that says learn from top professionals who've competed at the highest levels of play. Now, so they're telling you that the $45 one is you're not learning from professionals. No, that's just an in game coaching session designed to develop and improve your skills. And then the very obviously extremely fake, I'm going to share my screen. So you guys can see this, the, the, the picture of the guy, like here's some testimonials.
Starting point is 00:11:01 It was, and, and, and it's, you can't read it because it's halfway off the screen. It was absolutely worth it. I'm having fun. Yeah, I can't even read it because they they somehow have it. Yeah, they didn't format it. Format it properly. You can't read the quote. And it doesn't move to the side.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Oh, wait, wait. I can try and stretch it across two screens and see what happens. Hang on. Oh, you had it for a second. This is a very cool. It's sort of like a video game to see this. Wait, a married couple hired coaching. Look at that.
Starting point is 00:11:46 They were they were considering, you know, couples counseling. And then they're like, wait a second, maybe we could spend this money, you know, in a better way. How does that happen? Do you like did like one of them got caught cheating and was like, OK, the real reason I did this and I betrayed your trust. I'm just like not that good at war zone. And I feel really insecure about it.
Starting point is 00:12:10 I try to fill that void by having like random sex. And when we when we play the game just isn't that good. I feel like we're not really like connecting on coms. That would be so fucking great. Well, I do actually. So just to be clear to everyone listening, Brian was never able to get it in a way where we could read any of the freedom. It was impossible. You just very good website, but I would love to have.
Starting point is 00:12:37 I mean, hey, listen, they don't have to be good with technology to teach you how to game. I know. Here's our slash games. This is from user fun filled friend. Oh, this is a man going man coming to Reddit for some advice. My wife says I'm addicted to video games and it's our family or her. I play less than two hours a night if I even play. And only after my kids are asleep and the wife and I watch a show, I need y'all to help me here.
Starting point is 00:13:12 What should be considered addiction with less gaming? And is she wrong or am I? It's actually a pretty good like this. I thought it was usually these are like very clear cut, you know. But this is kind of like two hours a night doesn't seem like that much But I mean I don't play that much Felix would change your mind about this man in a few minutes before you say anything Would you say that you game like currently um, I don't know it depends like I For something like Counter-Strike,
Starting point is 00:13:51 which a coachable game, let's say, a game that is competitive in nature that a ton of people play, like any type of shooter, it depends. If there's, nothing else is going on. I have nothing I have to do. And I have like, there's a group of friends where we're either playing like five V five,
Starting point is 00:14:15 just friends versus friends, or there's five of us on a team and we do matchmaking, either on face it or just, you know, in CS, CS two, I can go like three or three or four hours, probably. But that's, you know, you have people with you. Yeah, you're hanging out with friends at that point. It's like, yeah, that's why I say when I play with Stefan and Rob, it's like we're playing rocket league. But we're also just like we don't live in
Starting point is 00:14:43 the same place as Rob, it's kind of the chance we have to like hang and talk, catch up, things like that. Yeah. With, you know, the stuff that I play, you know, single player, like from soft games or like, you know, flight sims, you know, sometimes, I don't know, I guess like two hours is a decent like that's like a median amount of time before you you're forced to confront like, you know, I'm pretending I'm a real pilot. I'm pretending I'm a cool pilot that everyone respects. You sink into it a bit too much. I have VR and like it's I was not a VR believer until I tried it with flight sims and it's like really fucking good in DCS especially but there is still like a feeling of patheticness when you're putting on fucking gear wearing equipment to pretend to be a pilot. Yeah. You get lost in the mode. I don't use VR. I had VR that I stopped using, but I
Starting point is 00:15:48 would, yeah, you would sometimes get lost in it and you're like, just for that split second you sort of think like, hey, I'm really doing this, you know? And then you're like, cat rubs up against you or whatever. And it does feel very sad at that point. The second you take that headset off is like the most depressed you will ever be because you're you're you're like in the game and like I'll say pilot stuff. I'll be like Fox three slash slash bandit. Yeah, you're having fun. Yeah. And then it's like, oh, I should kill myself.
Starting point is 00:16:22 Well, this is a great place to go for advice. I mean, the only other subreddit I found that gave worse advice for this sort of thing is guitar guys. They are, they bump up against each other. You're going to hear a lot. And I'm Lloyd, I'm Lloyd mate says, if you spent three hours watching box sets every night instead, would she say you were addicted to TV and give you
Starting point is 00:16:44 an ultimatum? I doubt it. So how many box sets every night instead, which you say you were addicted to TV and give you an ultimatum. I doubt it. So how many box sets do you watch? And then our OP comes back and said, that's what I said since Saturday. I'm not touch the games, but instead devoted the same amount of time to movies and or read it. No complaints yet.
Starting point is 00:16:58 Odd, isn't it? So I just love the phrase there, addicted to box sets. Not even the content in it. You're just like, I need that box. Special features, a special features on it. I need to know what Seth MacFarlane thought about this scene, Family Guy. Oh, buddy, we love Seth around here. We don't really know Family Guy though.
Starting point is 00:17:23 We're a fan of his crooning. We like his straight up really know family guy though. We're a fan of his crooning. We like straight up non comedic singing I love when a guy like that is like, okay time to get serious Brian hates his singing so much what he gets into it. It starts with his Sinatra shit I don't like crooners at all. I don't like Sinatra so seeing Seth MacFarlane go out and then also act like one of those guys where he's like snapping his fingers and stuff and It's just like I can't this is not for me. This next guy goes Unfortunately, some women can't handle watching you enjoy yourself in an activity that you're not involved
Starting point is 00:18:03 They're not involved in if you started a hobby working with wood and we're in the shed for a couple hours every night, the same problem would come creeping out. Been there, done it, mate. Now, I'm going to doubt that guy started woodworking. This guy did that. That's such a stretch. It's like, oh, like, oh, you would hate anything I do. It doesn't matter whether I'm playing Fortnite very poorly for seven hours or if I'm building furniture for
Starting point is 00:18:33 you. Yeah, I was just going to say my younger brother does woodworking and he like literally built all the furniture in his house and the shelves and stuff like that. I think that's a little different. His wife was probably pissed, wasn't she? She was very, very, very addicted to woodworking out there. She was very grateful. Stop making stuff for the house and come and watch this fucking box set with me.
Starting point is 00:18:56 So I feel like an addict. He built a crib for their baby. We can get a crib at the fucking store. I'm out here enjoying this Arliss box set by myself Here's a really good Here's a guy with this this guy is probably the best advice for a marriage and still weird you play games by yourself You watch TV with her. That's the problem spend evenings with your wife and get up an hour or two earlier to play games Yeah, I think that is pretty good advice in that he's basically saying like it sounds like your wife
Starting point is 00:19:30 Maybe wants to spend more time with you Yeah, getting up early to game. No, no, that's crazy That's a crazy thing waking up early in the morning before work to game. That's insane 330 in the morning to game and then I'm at work right on time. I'm sorry if you do that and you're listening, but yeah, to me waking up like an hour and a half before work to do gaming is wild behavior. Imagine if you were a kid and you saw your, you like wake up in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom or like get a cup of water
Starting point is 00:20:05 And you see your dad in his full suit with his briefcase next to him playing ballerina With a headset on at like 5 a.m. This is my time Toast hanging out of his mouth as he's getting ready to walk out Hold on I Hold on. I'm leveling up here. This is another great argument. This is this is for for eagle eyed guys, listeners.
Starting point is 00:20:34 This is almost as good as how many ask her how many hair straighteners she has. Yeah. This guy goes, yeah. And funny how you could spend the same amount of time reading a book or being on your phone But no, it's not an addiction. I've had too many of these sorts of arguments over the years Again reading about these guys love like putting putting like things in categories that don't belong together You yeah you oh, oh but it's fine to learn a language or to just refresh Reddit endlessly until you see leaked celebrity nudes. Yeah, they're really, you're right.
Starting point is 00:21:14 They're just putting those two on the exact same level. To them, there's no difference between anything that you do with your time. It's exactly, they're like, like well you're still spending time at the end of the day so it's like the same thing he goes up he comes back says no unfortunately I bought her a PlayStation a few years ago to play with me and it was a waste of money because she played for it's such a bad strategy. She didn't show any interest. You tried to force it on to her. Like she played for approximately two days and then never touched it again.
Starting point is 00:21:51 Yeah, motherfucker. She didn't want the place. She didn't want to. She gave it her best shot for the sake of you. But two days is all she had in her. That is this guy is the king of bad husbands. I love it. Like like giving your non gamer wife a fucking PS five and be like,
Starting point is 00:22:10 pretty cool, huh? She showed no interest in it. You bought it. It's like you probably paid like scalper prices for it. Probably paid like a thousand dollars for it. What do you think? And you got her a game that is traditionally thought of as a game for women that's different from the game you play.
Starting point is 00:22:31 You'll like this one. This is a good one. It's for more for you than me. There are dresses in it. Yeah. I just also what I don't understand as a, as a gamer, it's like, why did you, why did, why did he buy her a console? Like you can play. If you're going to play with someone, you can do it on a console.
Starting point is 00:22:51 You don't need a new console. I don't think I want my wife on my place. I think it's like, you know how cats do that mirroring behavior? Like when you're on a computer, they try to get on it and you like, people will like take old broken laptops and give them to their cats because it's it's very it's very funny. They do mirroring behavior. That's probably what he thought he needed to do for his wife. I see like he thinks he is treating her like a captive animal where it's like I got you this fucking enrichment
Starting point is 00:23:20 box. Yeah. Yes. Yes. It's like when they, the monkey cage, when they give them a button to press, it may be, look, isn't this great? We're sitting next to each other. He must be a PC gamer, but he knows she could never handle PC. Like, you know, the lag situation, all of that. She'd never be able to handle it. So he got her console just to ease into it. Why is you're just not smart enough to use this word?
Starting point is 00:23:49 This guy goes, I'm in the exact same boat. My wife is always on her phone. So I said, I'll quit gaming when she quit social media. I don't feel I need to play. It's my little hobby, not an addiction. Oh, boy. That was what I used to say when I was really addicted to drugs. I think that's a classic thing. Addicted people say it's almost like, yeah, like to be like,
Starting point is 00:24:08 I could quit at any time has become kind of like a joke, you know? Yeah. And he goes, he does come back and says, that's my exact thought. When I get off work, it's usually pretty late. I go home, get my kids a bath and a shower, read them a book. Sounds addicted to hanging out with your kids. Yeah. What? If you have a bath and a shower. And they go, OK, Mr.
Starting point is 00:24:28 OK, Mr. Rockefeller, let's see your water bill. Sounds like this guy's addicted to his children. Because with my wife and watch a TV show for a little bit, then I hop on the games to hang out with my buddies that I grew up with. They live down in Texas as to where I live up in St. Louis, so it's cheaper for us to no shit to hang out playing video games and still have a conversation with one another. I don't understand why she doesn't see it the same way I do. And then we get a reply, bro, you're good. I play about the same. My ex used to say the
Starting point is 00:24:58 same shit. I love it when they say that when the guy pops in is like, my ex was always nagging me in the same way You're totally good man. I've been honestly like after the four-year ordeal. I'm just so much happier now This is this comes up in every guy hobby thing too. He goes um, I And I would always say I could be out drinking and spending money At least you know, I'm safe at home and that had always shut her up my wife now doesn't You just want to shut her up Kind of like games god damn it
Starting point is 00:25:40 Over your headphones if you're really that worried, you know, like it's a barking dog. Oh great Sorry about this. My wife's fucking talking again Let me see. I got some biscuits. Let me see I've got some biscuits in a novel called like the tiny little summer Occupy her I have to say like The move I this is a classic bad boyfriend move. I have to say like the move, this is a classic bad boyfriend move I have done. I have to admit where like, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:10 your girlfriend or wife is like, why are you playing this game that you kind of suck at for like five hours instead of like going to my friend's party and you're like, it's the only time I get to talk to my friends. Great. Like self-righteous move you can do when that relationship is like already doomed. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Yeah. Because you don't hang with your friends. What he said, this is the thing, the key to what this guy had said because of what he said, what you hear earlier about the whole thing is if you're doing something that is taking your time away from your significant other and they feel like they've been kind of like ignored. The best thing that these guys think to do is say I could be out drinking and spending money or famously like on the grilling guys episode when the lady was like, how many grills are you going to buy? And the guy says no motorcycle. So like they're just like, I could be doing something very dangerous and bad, but instead I'm playing video games to ignore you. And they hang out with their friends. Like they say, this is
Starting point is 00:27:21 the only time I get to hang out with my friends, but you don't hang out with your friends every day if you're not in high school. You know what I mean? You just like that's what I'm saying. I have the same thing. Rob lives in a different place. That's the only time we can really hang out that much. And but we just do it once a week for an hour. You know what I mean? Like if you're just every single night, you're spending you're spending more time with your boys than you are with your wife.
Starting point is 00:27:43 Well, this thread gets a little more wild now He goes up pink money says if you only play for a couple hours a night after you've handled all your husband and dad Duties, I don't see the problem. It's how you unwind and it makes you happy Thanks for letting me know that by the way, if you were addicted to gaming you'd be shirking your responsibilities and only playing games are neglecting the Or neglecting the family That doesn't sound like the case now I don't know the whole story, but it seems to me that she's flat wrong or perhaps has some Story but she seems like she has bitch woman disorder
Starting point is 00:28:22 This next guy says and this is the crazy one, he goes, sounds like you're in an abusive relationship. She just wants to spend more time. Listen, when we don't know the whole story, maybe you know, maybe she's really hard on him. But it sounds to me like she just wants to, as we've said, just wants to spend more time with her husband. That's all, you know? Yes. And the next guy goes, I wouldn't go as far as abusive, but manipulative for sure. And then the next dude, the next Johnny Deptrell was like one of the worst things
Starting point is 00:28:55 to happen in history because it's caused all these guys who like have this ambient awareness that they're like bad husbands to go. Yeah. I'm being a gas lit. I don't know what it means either. They're just like, I think it's gas lit that you're doing. I'm pretty sure that's what it is. Yeah. They're like, they're like, I, I, I declare me to like Johnny.
Starting point is 00:29:18 Yeah. He goes, uh, uh, I wouldn't. So this guy goes, the only reason it isn't considered abusive is because it's coming from a woman. If a man was pulling this manipulative shit on a woman, this place would be shitting its pants. Wait, sorry, if a man was like, hey, I think that you're doing this thing a little bit too much, I'd like to spend more time with you.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Yeah, he would be killed. Yes, he would be strung up in the town square. And then our abusive, the guy that says it's abuse goes more mental games like fuck the guy probably works and shit all day. Something you need, some hobby time. Sometimes you need some hobby time. If she gave you more time, you'll get burned out and want to do stuff with her rather than you trying to cram in game time before getting nagged
Starting point is 00:30:06 Like fuck women I gave you two children am my last name so this Yeah, you're welcome Smith's I don't Don't think that guy is like I don't think we can rely on him as like, you know I think I just feel like he has some sort of like his own shit about towards women. And now Joe Daddy says two hours is so little time for an average gamer. I think she first of all, I don't even know if that's true, but he goes, I think she's just trying to get you to stop playing video games.
Starting point is 00:30:39 It's kind of manipulative. And the OP says, that's how I see it. So now he's in here agreeing with these people that are telling them they're doing a lot of time though. I do. I was a trommel. I was not a lot of time for a gamer, but it's just a lot of time. I'll speak as somebody with a family. It's just a lot of time every single day to take. You just don't.
Starting point is 00:31:01 Yeah, you don't get that every single day. I would love to but you just don't get that every single day to do, you know Yeah Well this guy now this little exchange is a good one If you spent those two hours watching something with her at least you'd be spending the time with her if you're spending two hours Engaged in a game without giving her any attention. She could be just looking to connect with you Is it possible she feels like you're drifting apart not to get all up in your business, but you guys still find time for intimacy? You don't have to answer that.
Starting point is 00:31:29 Opie response and goes, yeah, I just fucked her brains out night before. Oh, good. Oh, what? Well, that's awesome, dude. No, high five. He's kind of kind of high school kind of image. Yeah. Well, that was the other problem.
Starting point is 00:31:50 Prepping this was finding people that weren't 14. Yeah, because most people that are posting about video games are not adults and the ones that are adults are not adults. So he goes, uh, the last one here, he goes, uh, find something she likes to do and do the same thing and the op responds It goes. I don't really enjoy knitting or watching YouTube families Then that guy responds it goes. I didn't mean start knitting. I mean use her argument against her Yeah, I was gonna say it doesn't I don't think he was saying you should like you try to do a good thing
Starting point is 00:32:20 I think he was trying to say you should be spiteful I love this. The guy who said, yeah, just fuck the shit out of her. And the guy before that who was like, as long as you're doing your husbandly duties. And I just the image of these guys just giving their wife like a perfunctory, mandated being sash. And then just like they pretend to come and they're like, okay, but okay, have fun.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Thanks for having fun. Okay. Hope you enjoyed that. Hey, are you done? Do are you done up there? Okay, cool. Doesn't finish is get something like this. Ams 700.
Starting point is 00:33:02 We have Wander's over Wander's back to his like ACES Republic of Gamers setup. Would you say like half hard cock just swinging the wind? Here's one I found that said, does anyone know a successful esports player? Well, and this is off of VGR.com. I don't know what it is a forming. Does anyone here well acquainted with any professional esports player? If so, have they told you any interesting stories or shared any interesting insights about their job? Guy replies and goes, Nope, they're just
Starting point is 00:33:32 regular people, some good people and some bad. And I hate guys like that. Nobody's asked for that. Why hate it when people say that about like celebrity thing when they're like, hey, do you know this person is like, yeah, they're all just they all put their pants on the same way. You know, some good some bad. We're all doing it is it is that is it's the exact same thing as like guys who didn't do anything in the army and are like you should never ask an army guy if they killed someone. That always means you didn't do you kill anyone. You didn't you you
Starting point is 00:34:06 you were like a fail army guy actually. No one who actually knows celebrity is like, oh yeah, let me think. You know what? Here's what I bet you were wondering. Do they go to the grocery store? Yep. Because they're just a regular guy like you or me. That's that's what you were asking, right? There was a real person. So a couple of weeks ago, Felix, we talked about death metal guys, and we read a review from ticket master of this guy who went to this concert that was cannibal. Uh, no, it was deicide, but opening, there was, there was a band with women in the band opening and
Starting point is 00:34:47 the review were reading the guy keeps saying stuff like I Didn't take a picture with her because I don't want to be a part of that whole culture And then like a little later on in the review He goes and me and her were kind of standing each other just thinking about the absurdity of it all It was so it made me uncomfortable that he was like kind of like, yeah, they're all just regular people, but he was trying to act that way. And I think a lot of these guys, they try to act that way, but would melt if they stood in front of even the top, even
Starting point is 00:35:22 in front of Ninja. If they stood in front of Ninja, it will 100% just melt and be like, I can't believe I'm standing in front of even the top, even in front of Ninja. If they stood in front of Ninja, they would 100% just melt and be like, I can't believe I'm standing in front of Ninja. This guy's more annoying. This guy's so incredibly annoying because he also like hasn't even met one. I know, he's just like, no, I haven't,
Starting point is 00:35:38 but I know that they're all just regular people. Like he doesn't even have the fucking first part of it. You know? Yeah, you know? You would you would push your wife off a bridge to shake hands with Dr. Disrespect even after even now. Yeah, you couldn't believe you were seeing Dr. Disrespect.
Starting point is 00:35:58 This guy goes, I've not met or been near a player in my time, but I can say I've seen them walking down the street once near an event. They are wearing their team colors and whatnot. I can't tell you who they are, who they are or plan at the time, but they seem to be walking there for break at the time with people and there were cameras behind them. Wow. Is that a six year olds report? Hey, I know you were wondering if anyone knew these guys, but like I've actually seen them and they do walk on two legs and go to places like I have. I did that. OK, like years when I when I was a lot younger, I was at this and I was 16 or 17 before you goof on me. I went to see Korn on Ohio State campus and their drummer, David, yes, their drummer is
Starting point is 00:36:51 named David. He doesn't have a fancy name. That's weird. All of the other ones have such good names. Yeah, they do. He goes to walk, he walks into a tanning salon called Savage Tan for the rest of, I think for 10 years, maybe, maybe 15 years, I'd be like, one time I was standing out there. I saw David go into Savage Tan.
Starting point is 00:37:11 I think he was getting a tan. Like I would, that would be the entire story. Yeah. Uh, this, this person says, I can't say that I've met or been acquainted with any e-sports players that I know of, if I'm honest. If I have, I've been completely oblivious to the fact they were a successful e-sports player. I'd like to meet someone who's a successful e-sports player, though, someone who'd be willing to talk about their experience and who I could ask questions and learn something.
Starting point is 00:37:40 And this last guy goes, I've had the chance to hear about the positive vibes a few pro e-sports players have. Very cool. something. And this last guy goes, I've had the chance to hear about the positive vibes a few pro eSports players have. Very cool. I mean, thank you, man. You're so generous with this fucking information. I heard a guy has I've been privy to stories of the good vibes of Sinatra. That's who he says. What a venom is Sinatra with two A. Okay, slow down. Sinatra was famously me too. Oh, it was like a really bad one.
Starting point is 00:38:13 Really bad one. Like, well, he had a good vibe. So I guess the vibes might have been off. I guess that day they might have been like, you know, they might not have been real because it seems like his vibes turned out to be quite bad. Sinatra is a Overwatch pro who, yeah, one of the first like big me twos in esports and it was truly a bad one. Truly very bad.
Starting point is 00:38:40 So, not so this, so that's a really, really poor information there. The only sort of name we've gotten so far not so, not so this, that's a, that's a really, really poor information there. The only sort of name we've gotten so far, not so, not so good. I met, uh, Tim, the tap man. Oh yeah. He's, um, I like him because he's, um, like really, he's really tight with, uh, Dr. Disrespect or was at like Nick Mercs. And when that whole like controversy started, when Nick Merckx was like, yo, I'm all about positivity and the fam, but if you trans, you not fam.
Starting point is 00:39:12 You can't transition into being fam. You not an infam if you fucking trans. When that happened and they like, obviously they took him out of Call of Duty because it's like, you know, they're a multi-billion dollar company. Tim the Tatman was like, I'm not going to be playing. I'm going to take my custom skin out of war zone out of solidarity with my friend. And all these
Starting point is 00:39:36 like conservatives who didn't know really who any of these people are were like, you are here. You're a modern day Robert Bruce It's like These guys are Tim the Tap man is a professional buffoon He knew we knew him from the ninja Rose. We went to twitchcon I went with like the go-off Kings years ago and we were watching all of these like everyone like we're in a big Airbnb with a bunch of people like John Hendren and like Drill and you know, Dave and a bunch of people and we're just watching the roast all weekend of these guys, the worst roast in the history of the world. And then so Rob and I, when
Starting point is 00:40:16 we went to TwitchCon, we had a plan, we got to the front of the line beside Tim the Tap man, because his line was really long. And then we tried to sneak over and just kind of we kind of said hi to Tim and shook his hand and stuff. And then we got escorted away. It's kind of like being Bubba in a way. I mean like like really important guy. Yeah, this is before he was a disgraced figure. This was many years ago.
Starting point is 00:40:39 He was just kind of a buffoon like feel he was a buffoon at that point. Yeah, Tim. So Tim the Tap Man is like he's a very like. Just like Ninja has a brother like this where they're like I'm a crazy gamer. I love Monster Energy and fucking headshots and I you know watch my funny fail compilations, but they're also like crazy Christian
Starting point is 00:41:02 got like super big Christ guys. Pimp the Tap man, I think, I don't know if he's disgraced. I think when the Dr. Disrespect thing happened, he put out a video where he's like, hey, Chad, I just found out about the Dr. Disrespect thing. Obviously it's a really personal situation, but you should never do stuff with kids. I'll be playing fucking Valorant on Thursday.
Starting point is 00:41:29 And you know, that's the most you can expect out of a guy like that. But he is- His roast was like, it was so legendary bad that it like stuck out in our minds for many years, you know? He just seemed to not really understand the concept of what a joke even was, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:44 It's funny because like all of the pro gamer stuff that gets to me which is way outside of the whole thing. I don't I don't I only know like five Twitch streamers and everything. Every single time it's about like either texting with teens or accidentally doing something racist. Like they really could use some help with the people that like keep people in line. The like disaster publicists, maybe have them sit down and take a course and say, if somebody messages you
Starting point is 00:42:20 and they're 15, just don't mess with them, Mac. Don't goof with them at all. That's how I think it's a really gross sort of group filled with a bunch of gross people messages you and they're 15 don't just don't mess in their Mac. Don't goof with them at all. I think it's a really gross sort of group filled with a bunch of gross people who are interacting with kids constantly just by the fact that they're doing video games and stuff. And it's a really sort of yeah, I mean, it's really shitty. All of this stuff is really shitty. Think about it like that. There's kids and they're watching that stuff. You know what I mean? They're watching those creators as like children and just sort of learning life
Starting point is 00:42:47 lessons and stuff like Logan Paul and shit like that is kind of shitty to think. I, when, when I think when, when I talked to Gwen, it's like everybody she's ever had a time where she liked this person is now canceled. So as a zoomer, it's basically like you get to like somebody for awhile. Then you find out they, they, they get called out for some kind of me too thing. And then you have to go to another person that you're into. That's what seems to happen with her or she's a poor judge of character.
Starting point is 00:43:21 But I think she likes all of them. You know, she's a smart, she's a smart kid. And she knows- You wanna go through some of the list of the people? Cody Ko, Cody Ko got me. Okay. Cody, he was really popular, right? I don't know that, but he was super popular. A lot of people were fans of his.
Starting point is 00:43:38 Not anymore, he's not. He did something, I don't remember what it is. He slept with Tana Mongeau when she was underage. He was like 23 or 24 and she was 17, which is just like, you know, a illegal, be incredibly fucking gross to do. Yeah. And the way she cried. Yeah. The way Glenn put it was like, well, the Tana Mongeau thing was like, oh, he did that.
Starting point is 00:44:04 But we don't know how true it is. Cause Tana mojo sometimes is a little weird. Like my daughter was being evil. And I said, well, uh, you know, you gotta trust women or whatever. Saying that to a woman, 20 year old woman. But, uh, then she goes, uh, she goes, um, but then I found, then we found out he was texting with another 14 year old a few years ago and we're like, Oh, and she was found, then we found out he was texting with another 14 year old a few years ago and we're like, Oh, and she was like, well, that's when I
Starting point is 00:44:28 was like, he's definitely in trouble. But there were just a few family. There were just a few family bloggers that ended up being kind of bad that she was really into when she was family. Yeah, she wasn't, she was into the ACE family. I don't think she was. What about the ones? There's that really horrible one with, I don't think she was. What about the ones? There's that really horrible one with.
Starting point is 00:44:46 I don't think she was into any of the only evil ones. Yeah, the the the 10 passengers. Yeah, Frank. Yeah, she is like, um, that's the one that you want to just like, if that one's tough to even you don't want to get to the details of that one. Let me tell you that really, really awful, nasty. Is that another woman that she did it with? I watched some of their streams and stuff. Oh man, weird stuff.
Starting point is 00:45:09 Yeah, I think when that happened, I thought, I'm not voting, but I thought if you're a Democrat, one of the best pitches you could do when Biden was still the candidate is to point out that like Ruby Frank and Jody Hildebrandt, the two people there, those are the exact type of people where Trump would pardon them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:31 You know, like that is the exact type of person that Trump pardons. Yeah. I don't know if this is a young person or not, but it is a, this, I'm going to give you guys and you, you guys are both going to appreciate this. This is an incredibly dumb guy post that I just love so much. It's it's exactly like if you had to write a dumb guy, you would put something like this in there. A question is by Smokey, would you ever want to be a pro gamer on a team for a living? The answer is no, everyone's probably going to be like, no. No, everyone's probably gonna be like, nah.
Starting point is 00:46:06 Well, just this is such a fucking dumb guy answer. Would you? So he goes, say Call of Duty like guys from 100 tier optic. I don't know if I would. Sounds great on paper, but I think the stress and pressure of having to always be on your a game will get to me. It's hard to say though, if I would enjoy it or not, do you think you'd be able to make a living like that?
Starting point is 00:46:27 I love shit like that. Where like there were guys when I was in high school, it's like, yeah, I mean, I wouldn't have minded playing baseball, but I don't know if it would take all the fun out of baseball, really? That's what I thought. That's what I think is so funny about it is that it's like the
Starting point is 00:46:46 hypothetical is basically like, would you like to be one of the most skilled people in the world? And would you like to be at your hobby and your obsession or addiction or whatever? Would you like to be better than 99.99% of people who've ever done it and make hundreds of thousands of dollars. I don't know. I mean, just like, sure, it sounds fun on paper, but the strain on your voice, the touring schedule and everything.
Starting point is 00:47:13 Yes! I mean, come on, I don't know. Yeah, just people who are just deciding in their head that they're not really interested in things they could never accomplish. No, that's exactly it. They like, they imagine themselves being like way more skilled than they are.
Starting point is 00:47:30 And they're like, yeah, but like the thing, the sad thing is it took away my love for the game. And it's like, it didn't happen. This will never happen to you. This will never happen to you. You don't have to worry about this. I went to a website I'd never been to, but have been posted about on Twitter
Starting point is 00:47:48 for all the years I've been on there. I went to Game Facts. That's game F-A-Q-S, and I've heard a lot about it. And they had a question in the PlayStation 5 forum, when is e-gaming going to be in the Olympics? Now this set off a firestorm on this website. At one point turned into arguing about JK Rowling, but I kept it I kept it to the
Starting point is 00:48:13 the stuff that did people got banned in this thread because they started talking about JK Rowling and said like just because she said It's crazy. Basically. They like, just because she said one thing means you shouldn't buy her books anymore. She didn't say one thing. She said several things. It's all she talks about now. It's the only thing she ever says now. Her only issue is this, and when it's not this,
Starting point is 00:48:36 it's like, Israel rocks. Yeah, it's like something, it's like, oh. Those are her two things. Oh, your other thing is somehow worse? There's like, she is like, yeah, she's one of those people who's become completely obsessed with it. And like, obviously, I think we all are on the same side of the issue and that we disagree with her 100 percent.
Starting point is 00:48:58 But like, I think even the people that like agree with her to be like, you got to do something else sometime. Every once in a while, have another belief. Have something else to say. It actually adds to the validity of what you're doing. If you can show that you actually think about other things as well. Well, that was the Graham-Lyman thing. Graham-Lyman, I know a a lot of us speaking generally, including myself, like people on Twitter,
Starting point is 00:49:31 like in this general sphere, like. Were like mutuals with him because it was like, oh, he did these like TV shows and he seems like, you know, like a regular, like, British left lib. And then, like, around 2015, you would see these re he would retweet these really weird accounts that were called like, just a girl Stephanie or something, or like, you know, human biological truth. And you would go, that's kind of weird. What the fuck is this?
Starting point is 00:50:05 And then he would, you know, make some insane like rationalization, be like, actually trans people agree with this, blah, blah, blah. And you would think that's kind of weird, but maybe it's just like, I don't even know what he's getting at, but maybe it's just like a weird, you know, thing about him. Who knows? And then that just became it's his it consumed his life.
Starting point is 00:50:29 He lost every he gave up everything in his life to pursue this. I have one for all three of us that we would all agree on is huge fucking opium Anthony fans. And then like right after Obama became the president and we're not the only three people to say this. People have said this to me for the years I've been doing shocktober that like all of a sudden everything became the racism. Like where before, before we were all like, yeah, he does some race,
Starting point is 00:51:02 racial humor. They it's edgy. It's an edgy show. That time, that was a normal thing to do. Because my daughter keeps saying like, well, she's right, but she keeps saying like, Howard Stern's like always been a real scumbag. And I'm like, well, things were different. And like you have no concept of a world in the 90s.
Starting point is 00:51:23 Right now I'm listening currently to exclusively listening to Howard Stern from the 1990s. I do got to say though that she's got a point because there is some really, really bad stuff on there. With Anthony, I think we all were like, he tells racist jokes in the character of a racist. So I can put that aside and enjoy the rest of the show. And then we all, all of us stopped listening at pretty much exactly the same time in like 2009, 2010, when it just, that became his entire act. Now we're at a point where it's that's all he does he like his whole entire thing is just saying the n-word a lot.
Starting point is 00:52:11 It was. It was to be clear. He let's not and we shouldn't be too he obviously a month there's two months ago or whatever did he passed away and yeah he's to him. I know we didn't agree on everything and he was one of the most racist pedophiles in the history of the world. But, you know, he didn't deserve to die so horrifically. Yeah, it is.
Starting point is 00:52:32 Look, I don't care what anyone's done. I don't care how many girls they took to promise a 60 year old. Oh, God, he's the fucking oh, my God. He is crazy how bad he is. He's dating a really hardcore Christian too. I don't know if you guys know that his girlfriend now is hardcore Christian and he's going Christian. Great. Great.
Starting point is 00:52:57 I can't wait till he has a fucking kid. That will be perfect. That will set him on the right track. It is time for him to settle down and they start thinking about having a family now. That will be perfect. That will set him on the right track. I like it. It's time for him to settle down and they start thinking about having a family now. Yeah, his kid will be entering high school when Anthony turns one hundred and seven. If we're going to like at our current rate, like he's in his book of world records for most racist person at that point.
Starting point is 00:53:21 Yeah, he's an old guy. I he's so like he's He's the most racist person at that point. Yeah. Most racist old guy. He's so, like he's, what he is and became is so, it's so fascinating to me because it's like he is sort of like a living straw man in a way. Like whenever you're arguing with someone about like the, you know, the moral standing of an entertainer or a political figure or something, you know, the moral standing of an entertainer or a political figure or something. You know, the go-to is always like, well, you know, I'm not saying they're a racist pedophile. Like it's the most ridiculous thing. Like this specific type of person, a virulent
Starting point is 00:53:58 racist who dates 14 year olds. But that he is that he literally is that. Unapologetically. And he's one of the most physically grotesque man ever as well. Like I agree, you know, he's just so gross to look at. And yeah, he's he really is one of the slimy is most evil kind of creep. He's not fun anymore. That's the thing. And listen, I understand if you're one of our stream listeners or stuff and I know how you feel, but I like, I'll listen to some OPI.
Starting point is 00:54:27 Well, yeah, that's the thing, Felix. We have been having an issue on our stream as of late where every time we put on OPI clips, we get like 50 or 60 people will leave immediately. I have seen that. I have seen that. I look. It is the most, so you see what he's doing now. OPI is now talking to random people from, you know, his like Facebook group about
Starting point is 00:54:48 bugs and shit for hours for 11 people. It's so fucked up because like, I, I get why it, it, it upsets people to the point that they would leave because it's like, I think we talked about this the first time that we talked about Opie's current output. The thing that makes it so incredibly, evocatively depressing is that you get to see Opie's intent with everything he does. And with this, it's like, he clearly thinks like, oh, the new thing now is to do like a Joe Rogan
Starting point is 00:55:23 kind of free form thing where you express like the wonderment at the natural world, but it's like a very naturalistic conversation. I'll just do that. And I have so much experience in radio combined with my modern tech savviness. I'll probably have like a $50 million deal with Spotify. Like this is my comeback. He's transparently like pathetic. Yeah, it is like a person. You can really tell exactly. You're right. You're so right. You can tell exactly what he's going for. And you can so you can see how much he's failing at it. You know, he's finally admitted that he's broke. And now all of that stuff is becoming not like broke broke. I mean he still has the big Manhattan apartment and a place in the Hamptons in the hampton but he says he's
Starting point is 00:56:11 running out of money and then Anthony selling compound media was like man I think these guys are really running out of money and they're going to start doing some very desperate stuff which I smell a reunion this could be reunion. This could be the time. This could be the moment for Opie and Anthony. Oh, god, if they got back together, nobody would care. Holy fucking. That would be the greatest thing ever. They missed their window.
Starting point is 00:56:36 If they had done this literally, if they had done this even four years ago, they probably would have been able to do it for three years and retire and never have to talk to each other again. But now they'll make thousands of dollars. It would be awesome. It would be so awesome to see it just completely flame out. So, I mean, that's my dream. My dream now. I was we were talking. We know somebody who auditioned for the role of Bubba the love sponge and the Ben Affleck Hulk Hogan movie. And I was like when I found out that they were actually doing that story, I was like, Lord, please just fucking make it a fat jock shock jock and never say the words Bubba the love sponge in the entire movie because it would destroy Bubba because Bubba's now Bubba's looking at that movie development
Starting point is 00:57:30 and being like they're going to come calling as soon as this movie comes out because Bubba's not we're not going to get into this either we should get back to gamers of course because Bubba's doing poorly I will say Bubba's not doing great either. Felix, we do not. Yeah. Yeah. The fast food reviews, man. He's in the fast food review game with like Joey's World Tour and stuff, and he's he's not really finding his audience there.
Starting point is 00:57:55 It's not very good. No, it's all uncomfortable. Lion of Gemini says there are so many different sports and activities already played in the Olympics that are even less deserving. With e-sports being a billion dollar industry, there's no good excuse to not start incorporating them. Now, I want to start this by saying from my research in this, there are many people that believe that e-sports is not a billion dollar industry. It's an industry that's getting billions of dollars pumped into it
Starting point is 00:58:23 and may never see it come back. Yeah, it's a very, it's a very popular celebrity investment. A lot of, you know, well-moneyed celebrities are buying like minority stakes in teams like Faze and Liquid. Faze actually is experiencing a massive restructuring because they sold too many parts to too many celebrities of restructuring because they sold too many parts to too many celebrities. And there was really no one at the wheel. And so Faze Banks, who is the star of my favorite video of all time,
Starting point is 00:58:53 the Moms Basement Memorial XXX Tentacion podcast with Adam 22, Keemstar, and Lil Xan, I think the greatest video ever. Okay, I got to, I have to, those are all people I would love to see together. So I have- It's so good. It's so good.
Starting point is 00:59:14 Like it's, it was recorded like hours after they found out that XXXTentacion died. And like half of the people on the panel are 40 years old and they're like, I was around for Pac. This is like even crazier than that. And then FaZe Banks is there and he's so keyed up that like he he like tries to talk about how real X was, but he just gets it. He just it turns into a spiraling diatribe about fake people in L.A. It's so good.
Starting point is 00:59:46 Lil Xan gets it back on track. Lil Xan gets it back on track by performing an acoustic performance with a guitar slave that FaZe Banks owns. FaZe Banks brings out this ponytailed man and is like, yo, this guy doesn't have social media. We just found him. And they do a guitar performance to memorial social media. We just found him. And they do a guitar performance to like memorialize X. Oh, that's beautiful, though.
Starting point is 01:00:09 That is it's the grip. But Faze Banks is in the e-sports industry. He is like Jamie Dimon of JP Morgan. That's how real of an industry. Yeah. Yeah. And he got Rizzeroth. I love this. This is one of those times like we talk a lot on these shows about like,
Starting point is 01:00:30 what do these guys think of themselves? Like what do they see themselves as in the world? And Rizzeroth answers. He goes, because unlike other sports, gamers like their independence. They hate tough regulations. That's part of the reason that the so-called quote billion dollar industry of sports and gamers like their independence. They hate tough regulations. That's part of the reason that the so-called quote billion dollar industry of e-sports is a money dumpster fire. You want to lose all your money, invest into e-sports or set it on fire. There's no difference.
Starting point is 01:00:56 And I really love him saying like, the reason we're not going to be in the Olympics is because we're too independent and we love our freedom so much and we don't like regulation What would that even mean? What would like what do you what are you worried? What would the Olympics do? No more headshots. They're too cool well that that is a question that a few people have pointed out like
Starting point is 01:01:25 a question that a few people have pointed out, like the reason it. And I know they're doing an Olympic thing with e-sports next year in the kingdom of Saudi Arabia. So funny. Like every time you hear of something that's like a money pit that is never going to pay out to anything and it's like in the kingdom of Saudi Arabia, they gave it a good Jillian dollars to make it happen. Golf countries have sunk billions in the East sports teams and they will never fucking see a return.
Starting point is 01:01:54 It's hilarious. This guy goes, uh, at Sim says, which Olympic sports are less deserving? He's asking. And, uh, guy answers and says, curling. So take that Chris. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. This is one of our big fucking sports and I'll have you know that my dad was a competitive curler and curled at the provincial championships. And so I'm huge into kind of course Brian, you're John Colin, of course, Curler.
Starting point is 01:02:25 But yeah, we love curling and it's not I don't. But it's I mean, listen, you can say what you want about it. It's a fucking sport. You got to do. Yeah. Yeah. And the sweeping is like genuinely difficult to do. And you have to be there. What? So that's what you tell your wife. That's why you don't sweep the house.
Starting point is 01:02:42 I clean up the house. Actually, I have a fucking newborn child. I clean the house all the time. I tell my wife is sweeping is a very tough sport, says Chris James, curling fan. I don't see her vacuuming. I think yeah, when people sweep a lot, they do seem to experience addiction.
Starting point is 01:03:04 Yeah, and what's the difference between that and like being on your phone or playing a game? You're, you're, you're, you're just using a device at the end of the day. This guy starts his. So I want to say this. This guy I think is the same age as me because he, his name is LOL Sports 1979, which generally means he was born in 1979, which is when I was born.
Starting point is 01:03:30 And he goes, he opens this with the world's greatest sentence. I've played fighting games at an international level. Video games, I love guys that start like that. I don't know what that, at an international level seems to mean It could mean that he flew to Japan and played Mortal Kombat I'm not really that that if someone's is that big about it It means they drove to Canada for like a Street Fighter tournament with a prize pool was in the hundreds of dollars That is fair. It's like somebody saying this is in my top eight of things.
Starting point is 01:04:06 It's like, well, that means it's eight. Exactly. Exactly. Like it is international without like specifying the country is driving. Not you tell. Yeah. International without saying the country is drivable 100% of the times. This guy gets on it, though, because video games are not a fucking sport and should not be at the Olympics It's fucking embarrassing that people keep bringing it up the effort and dedication needed to compete It's not on the same level if you think it is and you've never actually played a video game at a high level
Starting point is 01:04:37 I have And I'm telling you it's not on the same level I mean the entitlement of people now is scary. Everyone wants recognition rather than just enjoying what they do. You let e-gaming sports, whatever the fuck you wanna call it, when you open up the floodgates for everything to be recognized at Olympic sport,
Starting point is 01:04:56 card games like Rummy, why not? It's been around for a hundred years, way before video games even, fucking existing. Cribbing. He goes, well, that would be a good Olympic sport. 100 years way before video games even fucking Existing cry baby He goes well that would be a good olympics work cribbage by the way I do have a guy asking some questions about some stuff cribbage off fellow monopoly hopscotch Okay, we get we get the point. I mean not you Brian. I'm talking Because I mean why not sink even lower and have the loudest wet as far as an Olympic sport might struggle to find judges for that one.
Starting point is 01:05:27 Okay. Now he's I think he's I think he's joking. Yeah. Yeah. He's not serious about that part. I with this post, I think I'm going to work backwards here like he did. I think he did not have this opinion or any opinion about this until he saw this thread. I think he went into the thread wanting to build on his legend as an international gamer. In his words, he wanted to tell people about how he went to, you know, a Street Fighter tournament in 1997 or something and build his own forum mythos. And he just saw this as a great vehicle to do that through. Yes, yes. I think if you ask this guy, hey, do you still believe that about like gaming
Starting point is 01:06:16 in the Olympics a month from now? He'd be like, what? I've never talked about that. That's true. That we're all like that on forums. Yeah. here's a question from form factor on our gaming. Would you play a competitive sex game modeled after fighting games? What does that mean? The idea has me pretty excited.
Starting point is 01:06:43 It seems like you're horny, man. I'm not going to. I don't know how to judge you, but it seems like you're horny, man. I'm not gonna, I don't know how to judge you, but it seems like you're currently horny. Is this like the death metal guy that says, why don't they ever have hardcore porn as the cover for the album? Just look at porn, dude. Because this idea came up among some friends and we just, they should have just jerked each other off for real. This idea came up again among some friends and we just they should have just jerked each other off for real This idea came up again among some friends and we just kept escalating to such awesome heights of possibility So it's Mortal Kombat in the bedroom
Starting point is 01:07:13 Rated probably M But so much more than a controversy cash grab if taken on as a real project on the surface. That's good to hear. Yeah Yeah, I was concerned it was gonna be just just kind of they're going to put some real serious Coding into this and make it a really playable game. It's a triple a game. Yeah on the surface It's two characters fucking each other until one of them finishes But then there's just oh so much more to explore what dastardly deeds could you do to finish that nasty little opponent of yours? Okay, I don't like the way Gross yeah, this is, the way they talk. But listen, I mean, it's a stupid idea,
Starting point is 01:07:51 not the stupidest though. I could see how it would work. I don't think it would be popular, but I could see how, you know, like, oh, you press this for this move and there's like combating that. But it's like the difference is, sex is not a thing you're doing against your part. You'll move on each other. And so we have the difference is your sex is not a thing you're doing against your part. You'll move on each other. And so we go. So we have the entire urban dictionary for ideas on all the special moves and characters can do. I can't believe a man and this is a 2022 post is still like that. I've talked about this before. That is our Bible that sheet that like three sheets of paper that people printed off in 2002 that said stuff like dirty Sanchez
Starting point is 01:08:34 That is like the founding text for a lot of humor over the years that came later But he goes, uh, oh, I'm gay someone please make this I want to so play it. We're all so proud of this idea I'm curious if you would play this now, of course, we would play it I mean we would play it of course like we wouldn't get horny for it though We would play it as like gamers and just appreciate the you know, they the gaming, you know It wouldn't I like that shit to it. I I don't know about you guys, but I've had sex internationally It isn't a fucking game. It's not something you can be good at. In fact, no one's good at it It's impossible to get good at it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, there's yeah
Starting point is 01:09:19 There's like pornography films which are similar to you know films you would see that are not real, you know? Well, yeah, you wouldn't call them porn actors for a reason. Yeah. You wouldn't think that I would be able to find anything on TrustPilot for eSports guys or gamers, but I did. I found Medify.gg. This is Medify.gg is another coaching website. Very cool.
Starting point is 01:09:45 Yeah, it seems like that would be a big industry. It does make sense. Big, easy way to make money, kind of, you know? There is a whole thing about like gamer lexicon, gamer terms, famously gamer names. Gamers younger than myself, like zoomers and Genelpha, they love picking a word that they think is real. And then making it their name like goulosity. Yeah, that is a great get like that's one I've seen. But when they start companies like this, it's always something fi. Yeah, that is
Starting point is 01:10:24 always there. They have the same constructions for everything. it's always something fi that is always there. They have the same constructions for everything. It's always like, yeah, something fi. And it's always a dot G G, which is if you are investing in something that has dot G G as a domain, you are losing everything. What does that stand for? Is that good game?
Starting point is 01:10:42 Good. Oh God. I'm looking at some of our coaches, the top coaches on Medify.GG under Smash Brothers ultimate, we got Dubuz, Dark Wizzy, Mewtwo King, Elzal, Tweak, Apollo, Apollo Cage. I'm going to click on one of the ones that has $3 signs and find out what that's going to cost $100 hundred dollars an hour. So you can talk to tweak. He has three dollar signs for a hundred dollars an hour.
Starting point is 01:11:11 I'm going to make Chris, you have to do this. I'll do it. I'll definitely do it. We need it. We need someone. Maybe they can help me with rocket league. That's the only one I play regularly. So that's why some reviews are that not a good game. But anyway, let's read this review talking about it. It's like one of the most popular games in the world.
Starting point is 01:11:26 For idiots. This is the... Agree. I agree. What the fuck, Felix? Look, if I was good at it, I would agree with you, but I'm fucking terrible at that game. I like to pretend to be a cool pilot and not a fucking loser driving a car like anyone else could do. I do. I do. I do like flight simulators are proper fun, like in VR when you like escape into it like that. But yeah, it's just because I have, you know, my situation, I have so
Starting point is 01:11:55 little time and rocket leaks great for it because you play games so you can just like get three, four games in and like a 25 minute period that you have. No, that no, that I honestly, yeah, that makes complete sense. Like my my brother-in-law plays I'm going to be a pretty bad father one day. Exactly. You're going to be just not there. Yeah. I'm going to keep doing the flights himself. That's a really cool thing. I'm going to keep doing the flights. I'm going to keep doing the flights. I'm going to keep doing the flights.
Starting point is 01:12:14 I'm going to keep doing the flights. I'm going to keep doing the flights. I'm going to keep doing the flights. I'm going to keep doing the flights. I'm going to keep doing the flights. I'm going to keep doing the flights. I'm going to keep doing the flights. I'm going to keep doing the flights. I'm going to keep doing the flights. I'm going to being like a pretty bad father one day. So I'm good. You're gonna be just kind of not there.
Starting point is 01:12:26 Yeah, so I'm gonna keep doing the flights himself. That's a really cool thing to just keep, that's what I've learned too is like, I had some friends who were kind of like, oh man, you can keep living your life, you know? And it's like, you realize that you just can't and then you're like, oh, you're terrible. Oh, you're a bad carrot.
Starting point is 01:12:43 My brother who took me to buy drugs the night I found out that my wife, Katie was pregnant, I found out she was pregnant, called my brother, immediately went and got drugs, and the whole drive there, he's like, everything changes, it all fucking sucks. And it was like, not a good first night for me to deal with that kind of feeling.
Starting point is 01:13:03 Everything does change, but I would argue it doesn't suck. There's a lot of really positive You asked me to prove you asked me about why I think rocket League subs Let me let Yolo man's subs. Let me let Yolo man 66 tell you Okay, I'd rather work unpaid at a Chinese dirty factory and starve every day rather than play this game ever again. A dirty factory, that's the worst kind. Yeah. I would rather work at one of those Chinese factories that just makes pollution for their reason. The pollution factory.
Starting point is 01:13:36 I really wish that the devs would have to live in a world where the game's physics apply and get cancer. So that seems like not a good game to me. I think that person might be upset, like, like might be a physicist. Sure. You know what I'm saying? It's like there is a lot of physics in the game that you have to learn, and I'm sure they're not 100% accurate to like real world physics. So I think that's a physicist who's upset and that I do understand. Well, then, well, like, obviously, like this is it has bullshit physics because you would not be able to have a bunch of cars playing soccer with each other without everyone involved in everyone in the stadium dying.
Starting point is 01:14:17 Yeah, that's what makes it the best game. That's why it's the best eSports game, because it's like thisbelieve game That would be really fun to do but you could never do in real life Oh, well listen to this one then Chris two biggest facts Game is full of only toxic people true not only but there is a lot of toxic people in the game I will that's every game though game punishes you for sticking up for yourself yourself. Sounds like you said it's a bunch of slurs. Yeah, there is a story behind this one. There is a definite story because I'll tell you something.
Starting point is 01:14:50 Listen, you can say for some pretty dastardly stuff, we would joke around, we would on stream and stuff, we would fuck with people and have really nasty names and stuff. Not offense and not racist, obviously, but you can say just a lot of shitty stuff. The only stuff that will get you banned is, yeah, if you're saying slurred, if you're saying, if you're being like bigoted, you know, he says, he says you're banned for five to 30 minutes at a time. You play two V two and have no teammate. They never move three minutes in the scores, 10 and nothing. I abandoned the match case. Nevermind. So the minutes for leaving my teammate. This is a different thing and I agree with him completely.
Starting point is 01:15:25 This is a bullshit thing in the game where truly you can't, if your teammate fucks you over and isn't playing, if you can't leave the match, they have to both agree to leave. So then if he's just sitting there and you just abandon the match, it stops you from matchmaking but only for five minutes. Well, he says game is boring and made for toxic people to rage on. Avoid. Again, it's boring. Knock the same ball on the same goal over and over again.
Starting point is 01:15:50 Numbs of the brain, I guess. That's sports. What are you doing? Footy is the most popular sport in the world and that's all it is. The ball going in the net over. I know. It's boring. You have to get good at this game to enjoy it, truly.
Starting point is 01:16:04 It is a game that's early on, it's kind of frustrating other things good at this game to enjoy it. Truly, it is a game that's like early on. It's kind of frustrating and it sucks unless you put a bunch of hours into it. So let's read this last review of Meta Gigi. This is from Sahil. It's one review. It's one star. He's from I think he's from India and he goes horrible, horrible coach. I got in history of coaching. Oh, wow. So it's not surprising though, not surprising because my friend Felix here told me that
Starting point is 01:16:30 every GG site we should segue from. So he goes and so he starts out. This is a great line. You guys are going to love this. So I ordered coaching for Tekken 7 from a guy called Pepper Beef Too Spicy. I ordered coaching for Tekken 7 from a guy called Pepper Beef Too Spicy. God, what's the world coming to? You can't even trust Pepper Beef Too Spicy. He was a jerk full of ego.
Starting point is 01:16:58 I ordered... I love him just being this hot shot fucking gamer. Tekken 7 coach He's a hot shot Tekken 7 coach I ordered 30 sessions from him Maybe do one just to find out if you vibe with them. It's similar to like a therapist, I think, you know? Yeah, I don't think you want to do 30 pay heads for spicy, for pepper beef too spicy. He was not even off.
Starting point is 01:17:35 He goes, he stopped. But after a few sessions, he stopped responding. He was not even offline on Discord. He was not only online but playing games because he enabled the game notification feature on his discord. I will not recommend Metafy because their coaches are jerks. Also, they have banned Metafy across India. This is pure racism on their part. However, I have checked through proxy that the same coach is still providing coaching
Starting point is 01:18:00 services that date of experience was October 15 2023. So I would not sign up for Metify. And if you do watch out for pepper beef too spicy. I would love to listen. I think it's only fair. We give pepper beef too spicy. It's tell his side of things, you know, if he wants to reach out because yeah, who knows? Cause it sounds to me, it's like he stopped showing up. It's like, maybe there was some type of an issue on one of the coaching sessions, you know? Yeah, that's true. You never know. I found him. I found pepper beef, too spicy, passionate
Starting point is 01:18:32 gamer and tech and fan boy. He has, I'll tell you what he has on, he has 17,000 subscribers on a, on YouTube and he's just does a lot of teching. Okay, so he is like, 17,000 is not bad. He has a following on there. So he's a bit of a player. And he's a coach. So I'd love to hear. I mean, maybe we'll reach out to him and see his side of things and why he abandoned and
Starting point is 01:19:00 didn't do the remaining 28 sessions. So can I can I can I just say that like, you know, out of every, you know, I think every language has their own interpretation when people are ESL. Like every, yeah, every single language, it adds its own distinct character to it. which it adds its own distinct character to it. I think my favorite added value add for ESL is Indian guys. They add the most. Full of ego is such a good thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know?
Starting point is 01:19:41 They have added to the English language more than native English speakers And it's it is just really funny to imagine this guy. He's just like Uh, i'm gonna learn how to play tech in seven like by the way still I mean, I guess you could go to combo breaker, which I only know about because they invited me to go one year and I didn't Um, but I wanted to I just didn't want to go to chicago Or was going to Chicago at a different time or some shit like that. But like, I don't even think they play it
Starting point is 01:20:09 there. I don't know. I don't know why. I am still mystified as to why a regular person would get a coach. But I think it really is. Felix, he doesn't get it. He doesn't understand. It's not about you're not trying to become a professional. You're just trying to succeed and become very efficient and good and feel, you know, it becomes more fun when you're able to win at the game. That's all it is. You just want to succeed. The most fun thing possible is to, you know, use your, you know, hypothetically, let's say you had a podcast and
Starting point is 01:20:45 you get to live the lifestyle of an unemployed person, while being able to buy the absolute best peripherals and equipment. The most fun thing you can do from there, like it already sounds fun. But you want to make it even more fun. Use your unemployment skills to get better at the game than any of your real life friends, and then get kind of mad and shitty with them when they're like not as good as you and just sigh the entire time.
Starting point is 01:21:11 But you personally are achieving like your frag movie. Terrific. And talk shit on them a little bit. Yeah, that's what it's all about. Yeah. I wonder if there's ever, if there's gonna be like a professional gamer version of the Fox catcher farms. I just watched that movie like a couple months ago.
Starting point is 01:21:33 I that's like I that I've always loved that story. I wish that movie was better because it's such an interesting story. And it was really big in MMA circles because of the Schultz brothers. They were, Oh yeah. He fought, he fought in MMA, right? One of them. Yeah. Yeah. He was a very early fighter and they were also like, um, the surviving brother became
Starting point is 01:21:54 like a very prominent coach and like, uh, very influential coach at that. He changed a lot of things about how people do like front headlock series of jokes, but I The you know after that movie came out I thought is there gonna be like a du Pont or Rockefeller Like just a crazy Guy who inherited three billion dollars and is like I want to be a fucking League of Legends pro, but he sucks So he starts his own team like this, but he's able to pay like $10 million to get like Faker or someone like that to be his Dave Schultz
Starting point is 01:22:33 and then he kills him. It does make me wonder like, there's, and I don't pay attention to the news and maybe you know, you would know of some of these Felix, but it does feel like there is a chance that something bad is going to ha like several bad things are going to happen. Like because sports bad shit happens too, but like not enough people are paying attention to e-sports for it to be this thing.
Starting point is 01:23:01 Oh, but no bad, big bad scandals have happened. There have been like, Oh, cheating bad big bad scandals have happened. There have been like in. Oh, cheating. It's happened a lot. People people get caught. Oh, that's like, well, yeah, yeah. Tensions and stuff. I know that.
Starting point is 01:23:12 Well, there was a cheating scandal at a CSGO major, I believe, where the cheater in question had a text file of the computers they were using for the tournament called Cheats. Text. the computers they were using for the tournament called sheets dot text. And there have also been like competitive, significant matches that were thrown by professional players. And they were thrown like not even for like money in and of itself, but for skins. They would get certain skins if they threw it. This is great. I just I can't wait to see where this goes because I know it's going to turn very weird. I just pictured a scene in that movie, the you know, the gamer DuPont
Starting point is 01:23:55 movie where like the Steve Carell character, they're like playing in a big room on computers and then like fucking he's like star guy friendly fire fucking caps him. And it's just a really tense moment where he looks over at him and he's staring back with like dark eyes. Yeah, this could be this could definitely be a thing. I feel like. Dude, I don't I bet you didn't Chris, but did you ever hear that show gamers that was on? No. Fuck Columbia, the, the, the fucking Paramount plus streaming service.
Starting point is 01:24:28 That's not a big, that's not big in Canada. Well, I have it if you ever want to watch, but it was a show called players is what it was. And it was kind of supposed to be like a mockumentary of an e-sports team. And I thought it was pretty well done. It has Paul Giamatti's son plays the coach. What? Giamatti's got a son in the game? Oh wait, maybe Giamatti doesn't have a son.
Starting point is 01:24:57 I'm not familiar with him. Or Philip Seymour Hoffman's. I don't know. He's got a son, but this would have to be very recent then because his son is like he was in that That whatever the Paul Thomas Anderson movie, right? It was fairly recent. It's from I Got 2022. Yeah, so it could be him then it definitely could be it could be Philip Seymour Hoffman son. I yeah. Yeah, I got it right here. It stars I get the stars Yeah, yeah, I got it right here. It's stars.
Starting point is 01:25:23 I get the stars. Misha Brooks, Nathan Resnick, Frugar. Oh, no. Yeah. I can't find the guy's fucking name. So this was this is completely just made up in your head. Make it up. I didn't make it up. There is a guy because there's a guy named Cree. There's a guy in the fucking show. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:41 But there's he's not related to Paul. I think he is, but I'm fucking up and I can't find it. So well, thank you, Felix, for doing the show now. My pleasure. The seal is broken and you have to be on it all the time. So it would be my pleasure. I know. I like I said, there's a reason the guys is the fastest growing podcast in America. I would be happy to return very soon.
Starting point is 01:26:10 I mean, we love I mean, of course, like I think the first stuff I ever did with Brian was Shocktober with Felix as well. So yeah, it's always fun for us three to talk. Yeah, it was so fun. Shocktober is like that is one of my favorite things I've ever been involved with. Like those are seminal broadcast for me. I mean, really also, I mean, shit helped me so much, but now it's starting to get, yeah,
Starting point is 01:26:35 it's starting to get kind of interesting because now they're all because the cameo exists and stuff like that. Like the Grease Man pops his head out now to do cameos. Yeah, who are Grease Man's, like, who's buying those? Well, people buy them for us. Well, yeah, I meant in earnest. Maybe a little bit in earnest because you do kind of like grease man. I
Starting point is 01:27:06 find him. He gave us one of the most incredible cameos you've ever heard. It's so fucking disgusting. He looks disgusting. Oh, he's so close to the fucking camera. And it's like, you can see his like dried skin on his face. Oh, and it's so long and he's just going into his bits. I think he sings the tuna fish song. Yeah, he's like going into his bits, but he's also like just saying really naturally, yeah, give it to, oh yeah. You know, he's just being really disgusting and all.
Starting point is 01:27:38 You do. He's like 18 out, but do you think that he's like, there's a part of him where he's like, oh man, if I had gotten started in podcasts, I could do all my gross sex stuff. You know, without like the FEC. I got him up on the screen now for you. He's very red. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:27:55 Very red. He looks like when, you know, Canada or America, they find out that like a 97 year old in Ohio or Calgary was a concentration camp guard. This is always what they look like. They always look like the Greece man looks. He's definitely German as well.
Starting point is 01:28:14 He just looks very crowded, man. It just looks bad. But yeah, somebody sent us one. And you know, the thing I think of about cameos is like, I kind of feel sorry for the guys that go for a long time. And I think I'm kind of like, look at the guys that are like, you know, they do two minutes and they're fucking out of there so that they can get some, like the guy, the band Margera, somebody said one time they got one and he walked
Starting point is 01:28:42 out of a casino and did it in two minutes and then went back in and withdrew his money. That's a bit different. But I think the guys that do short ones I respect the guys that do very long ones. I don't think he was doing short ones. You know, I don't think it's like it was a respectable. I'm a big Bam Margera fan. I love Bam as well. I love him. I think he should dumb Maddie wasn't in the jackass movie. Um, he goes more about it. I'm the dude dad daddy, the highest of hobble, the Sultan of speckling. And so if you ever want to get a cameo for somebody, I think you'd really do well to get one from the grease man. And I think man cow's going to do it eventually. He started to get,
Starting point is 01:29:23 he's getting desperate. He's been posting a lot more and notice that. Yeah, he's been posting a lot more. And he recently said, you know, he was one of the last people to talk to Scott Weiland before he died. Yeah, he is a new person to the list of people he spoke to right before they died. I have really been considering. I've been trying. I've been like if I had more time, I want to put together a video. You know, one of those like investigation videos like on YouTube, those serious ones
Starting point is 01:29:51 about man cow, like talking to all these people right before they died, as if he's like a suspect in their death. And just kind of put it together and present to like how it like really serious music. Listen, one of the great moments that we ever had on Shocktober, all three of us were on it and we were listening to Man Cow and he was talking and he said, I was the last person to talk to Brandon Lee before he died. And that moment was one of the greatest moments
Starting point is 01:30:22 of that show. It fucking murdered me And then he said he before he hung up this phone. He said I don't feel good about this scene set Yeah greatest person who's ever lived like Last person to talk to him like the day before or whatever. He was like talk to him like a one minute before it the day before or whatever. And he was like, talk to him like a one minute before it happened.
Starting point is 01:30:44 Man cow. Like he brought man cow to this set of the crowd. We're like, hey, you're not in the movie, but we just like having you around. Yeah. You just make it like a better atmosphere. I'm going to get, I want to get all the man cow parts of death wish and do that on the stream sometime.
Starting point is 01:31:04 But that's one. Cause did you see death wish with Bruce Willis? No, I did not know of man cows in it. Man cow is a runner through the whole movie. He's a radio guy in the movie. It's like this death wish guy is really helping out the streets and stuff. I don't know who he is, but he's quite a vigilante. You know, I like I know what I'm watching after this.
Starting point is 01:31:28 I was going to say for man cow, like I agree with you. He's 100% going to cameo. I am so excited for the lies about cameo. He's going to tell where he is going to say. They said I was one of the first people to pass a million requests in a week. He will. Yeah, he's going to have the he's going to have the most verifiably fake numbers. Justin is lying bigger and bigger and bigger now in a way that is like and like every little person on Twitter that says something like, oh, he's just a Howard Stern knockoff. It pisses him off. And he starts fucking yelling at him online.
Starting point is 01:32:11 And I'm like, what's going on in your life, man, Cal? I don't think he's going to do cameo though, personally, because I think I just have a feeling I think he's doing well. Like, I don't know what the explanation is, but I think he has a lot of money. Like when you show those clips of him in his house with his collections and all this stuff, I just think somehow he's fine and he has enough money. He likes being famous. He did do. He did radio like in Chicago for a very long time. And like one thing we do know about radio is that like oftentimes if someone was a probable success in one era, they will keep
Starting point is 01:32:46 paying those people like, you know, maybe he wasn't making like $3 million a year like Obi and Anthony were at one point. But maybe if you were, if you do that for like 25 years and he probably made millions for like the peak of his career, but for the last like, I don't know, 15 years of his career, he was probably still making like half a million or even more than that. Even though we didn't have the numbers just based on his legacy or whatever. Exactly. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:33:15 Or it could be one of those things where this is true with like whole Cogan's lies where there's always one and it's always the one that sounds the most easily proven to be bullshit. There's always one that's like true for some reason. And maybe Mann cow like he really did like buy Bitcoin in 2014. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He did one smart thing in his entire life, but it was like it like set him for the effort. Yeah. That's the exact type of guy where it was like it like said him for the. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:45 Well, that's the exact type of guy where it's like he would buy Bitcoin in 2014 because like he was at some like Ron Paul event and someone told him about it. And he put like a hundred thousand dollars in it because he's like, this is money Obama can't touch. And then it's you know, he forgets about it for seven years. And then he's like, oh, my God, I have a billion fucking dollars. And he tells people he has two billion. Yeah, I'm the worst, worst billionaire.
Starting point is 01:34:13 That's one of the things that I am like kind of super interested in now. I mean, obviously I've always been interested in radio, but I'm so interested in basically the welfare, the the the, the DJ welfare system that sort of going on now where like the DJs that are doing morning radio right now are the last DJs that are ever going to do morning radio after that. They're going to programmed the, they're going to program music because why wouldn't they? They, they, it's cheaper and easier. So like a guy, like the guy in town, Loper and Randy,
Starting point is 01:34:47 he's it. There's not gonna be another one, but he's gonna get to do it until he quits, you know? And making like way more money than people would assume. I know. Like there is so much more well enumerated than people would expect. There's gonna be one guy left
Starting point is 01:35:03 looking like fucking Craig McTavish without his helmet on This shitty radio guy. They're still busting about cuz he just won't die, you know We gotta make sure we take care of them. I mean they offered Opie a fucking show. Can you imagine? They were only offered him five hundred thousand dollars. And I was like, oh, my God. He overvalued himself at the time. In hindsight, I think he probably would have taken it now if he realized what he would be up to now. But at the time, I think he might have overvalued himself.
Starting point is 01:35:40 This is you need to have a realistic appraisal of like your abilities in place in the world, because it's like I feel like if I were Opie, which is difficult to get into his head. It's very and what did he if he turned down 500,000, he thought there was a five to $10 million. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Most of what he was saying.
Starting point is 01:36:05 He was saying, like, I know how much I'm worth. You know? No, you don't. No, you don't. You know how much you were worth when you were part of a team that people liked. But you look the same now. Yeah, because he's like, you know how much money I brought in for radio stations? And it's like, yeah, dude, but you're not, it's not going to happen anymore.
Starting point is 01:36:22 You don't have that thing. It was 10, 10 wins. They offered him a spot was 10, 10 wins. They offered him a spot on 10, 10 wins. And he turned it down. How much money I brought in for radio stations back when it was the only thing you could listen to and the internet didn't fucking exist. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:37 Yeah. So yeah, that, that he is, he's a weird, they're all there. It's just like when we started it, they were all in hiding basically. Like it was all like you couldn't find them. Now because of their need to be famous, they're all on the internet and they're all trying to get something off the ground and they're all failing miserably at it.
Starting point is 01:36:58 Like Anthony made money, okay, fine. Nobody, Anthony is the only one. Anthony found a way to get money from like the most. Yeah. Yeah. Anthony Anthony is a subscriber base of like, you know, truck truck drivers who you can link to several disappearances across the Northwest. You know, the few remaining members of like the order or like other other like Nazi bank
Starting point is 01:37:27 robber gangs from the 1980s. Yeah, he really. Can you just I would imagine seeing that group? I wonder like, you know, at live events and stuff, what that truly looks like. He's like it's they always talked about when he was like, you know, part of Obi and Anthony and they like made way more money. They were making millions. Oh, yeah. He was he was like famously like Patrice made fun of him because he did. Anthony still lived like paycheck to paycheck. He was famously like a horrible spendthrift who was terrible with fucking
Starting point is 01:38:01 money. And he was only really bailed out by the fact that he had this enormous cash flow that he was making, you know, probably like 70,000 dollars a week. And that's why he moved. That's also why he moved to. He didn't move to South Carolina because he wanted to leave. I just don't think I don't believe that for a second. Yeah, I think he moved to South Carolina because it's cheaper to live there than
Starting point is 01:38:26 it is to live in New York and you get to have a bunch of land and stuff like that. Cause he then, I mean, then he said he moves there and then he sells compound media to Gal Gavin McInnis for $60,000. I actually don't know if that's the price, but it probably wasn't very much. I actually don't know if that's the price, but it probably wasn't very much. I can't. I I have a decent appraisal of like when someone acquires something or wants to acquire something like that. I have a decent idea of valuation. And like it, I would be shocked if it was
Starting point is 01:39:02 above like the low six figures. Yeah. It is not worth that. You can't really put a number of price tag on getting to work with Owen Benjamin, who's really like, I want to tune into his shit. He's like, he was out in some old rundown shed, doing some stream on Rumble. There was like 11 people.
Starting point is 01:39:23 It was really hot. That is it. Like compound media has had people that have gone on to do like incredibly successful shows, but they all famously left. They realized that they had to get away from compound media and that it was horrible. I just want to clarify here, Paul Giamatti does have a son.
Starting point is 01:39:44 He's not an actor. All son. He's not an actor We're gonna get out of here, I know we're gonna get out of here But this is this is a thing I didn't know probably a lot of people knew this But I did discover this looking Paul Giamatti son is it Paul Giamatti is the fucking son of the disgraced MLB commission That or maybe I didn't I just watched the rep doc. So I know he rose guy I love. But I love there's nothing I love more. And I wish there was a word for this. When a disgraced guy has a beloved son, you know,
Starting point is 01:40:21 where it's you know, everyone hates the dad for some weird thing they did. But the son is, you know, where it's, you know, everyone hates the dad for some weird thing they did, but the son is, you know, a beloved actor or something. That's great. I hope to foster that dynamic one day. I'd love to be someone's disgraceful dad. Yeah, you get so disgraced as well that it's just like people are like,
Starting point is 01:40:37 I kind of feel bad for the son. Yeah, I want to do something terrible. I want to get caught spying for a country that sucks. It isn't even paying a real enemy country. Literally once you dead. My my I have gotten to this point now where where my daughter who will be listening to this so she's gonna hear this. But she's gone to school for journalism and I'm not saying she can't make it on her own, but if I, you know,
Starting point is 01:41:09 maybe if I don't get disgraced, I'll be able to help her find a job. So I think once you get to that, you'll get to that age where you have a kid and the kids a little older and you're like, well, I'm not very smart and I can't help her with school. I'm not an engineer. I don't have any connections to get her any sort of a real job. But if she decides to be an entertainer online, I think I can help her out. That's tough. You have to decide whether or not to be disgraced or not then because it's like on the one hand you become disgraced and that could, but it's like, or you don't become disgraced
Starting point is 01:41:46 and you use your connections. Are you better as a sacrificial lamb or are you better actually being there? Yeah. Brian, I just have to say that journalist is one of those fields where being the child of a disgraced person actually seems to be an asset. A lot of very well known journalists, Ronan Farrow children of Ronan Farrow, Mike Allen from Politico. Mike Allen from Politico's dad wrote a famous like Bercher, right? Track, he wrote.
Starting point is 01:42:19 You can't even call them books. They're more like screeds where they're like, you know, he he would write these pamphlets that are like the Jews are ruining the fucking dairy industry. And like, so he was like a real, a real baddie. Yeah. Well, I mean, I am, I'm paraphrasing. He wasn't like, um, a Nazi, but he was like a bircher guy, like real crazy still. And Mike Allen went to become, went on to become like the swamp creature, you know, Mr. DC. So it's really, they really, it doesn't matter what your, your, your, your dad or your mom did. And in fact, being disgraced, I think gives
Starting point is 01:42:58 you like a little bit of an edge. People who have non-disgraced parents, they don't have to fight for anything. But when you come from a disgraced household, you're all ready. It's like training with weights on. What about does it, what it count? What would it count as like if just like their dad ate like six king-sized caramelos in the middle of the night? I thought you were going to say one of the bad ones about me. That one is just over. I look wonderful. I think it's a curve ball. If your dad drove to Mexico to try to get Xanax and got pulled over four times and then
Starting point is 01:43:34 gave up and went home. Yeah. And what we decided was a Mr. Bean like scenario. It was Tom Walker. Tom Walker said it was so, he pictured it like Mr. Bean trying to buy Xanax. All right. We are, I would tell this story, but I can't. It maybe would get us in trouble.
Starting point is 01:43:56 Maybe I'll do it on a bonus show or something. Sweet, sounds good. It would get me in trouble. All right. Oh my God. We should do that as a bonus. We should all tell our disgrace stories. Oh, I will.
Starting point is 01:44:08 A bonus episode. Yeah, we'll get ourselves fully disgraced, but it has to be behind the paywall. Yeah, I've always said whatever will happen behind the paywall. We do. It doesn't come out this week. We just did an episode where me and Chris said the C word like nine times a minute. It's ridiculous, actually. I feel bad about it.
Starting point is 01:44:29 I realize it's a very I was mom listening to stuff because it was somebody who's a poster was using the C word to actually like refer to it in like a sexual way, you know, and then we just thought it was funny. We kept saying it, but it's really hard. Felix, he said your wife's. Yeah. In a. What was the advertiser? But in a complementary way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was saying in a convention, but I was like,
Starting point is 01:44:53 it really threw me off that he was using that term to actually describe in a positive way a woman's vagina. And then so we kind of got hung up on it. And then, of course, if I say like, I'm like, oh, we should stop saying that. Then Brian just keeps fucking saying it over and over again. It's it's I am so confused by that because it's like I've never that's not even in like the dirty talk repertoire. I feel like if you said that you're not in the pineapple lifestyle, though,
Starting point is 01:45:20 I think when you're in that lifestyle and you're fucking all the time constantly, you like got to do new words. You got to switch it up all the time. Yeah, I get. I feel like, though, if you said that to your wife, she would call the police. Oh, yeah. If I said it to my wife, oh, yeah, she would not respond well. Yeah, I would be hot under the collar if we were getting intimate.
Starting point is 01:45:40 And I was like, let me get in that. And I'm not going to say I'm a free fit. Let me get in that c I'm not gonna say I'm a free for let me get in that cunt. Something like a really mean person would say gross. You licking suck on your cunt. All right for real. That is the end of show Felix. You anything you want to plug?
Starting point is 01:46:01 It's always we check out patreon.com slash shop a trap house. We have new merch up in the store. Nothing. Yeah, the Chicago show is sold out now, but if the audience dies and we have to sell new tickets beyond lookout for that. Yeah, this will come out after that. Actually, this comes out. Oh, OK. Never mind.
Starting point is 01:46:28 Then you were at the show and you died. You rest in peace, but the terms and conditions you signed up to have bought those tickets, you would you weren't even going to say rest in peace before you went into the terms and conditions. It was it was implied. But I'm just saying like, you forfeited the right to sue us if you died at the show that you attended,
Starting point is 01:46:51 but your family will be able to arbitrate with us in Patreon Court. Yes, it's wonderful. That extra dollar 50 is gonna go a long way. All right, we'll see you all next week. I give you science guys. Goodbye. Bye.
Starting point is 01:47:07 Bye.

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