Guys: With Bryan Quinby - Guys: Episode 86 - Mafia Guys with Dan O’Sullivan

Episode Date: September 24, 2024

Heyyy welcome to this thing of ours. It's an episode of Guys about mafia guys. We talked about my (Bryan) attempts to start a mafia which just really ended up being a group of violent rednecks, we learn about why someone would rat, why hasn't Sammy The Bull been whacked? Then we get some important questions answered by quora. Chris and Dan also bully me about how I act at baseball games and we wind up reading gangster movie reviews and mafia jokes  Find everything Dan does here https://www.sullyville.io/ and here is an article that he wrote about the mafia https://www.chicagomag.com/epic/the-last-gamble-of-tokyo-joe/ See Guys Live in October bit.ly/top3weekend10/11 and 10/12 we will be performing at the Biltmore Cabaret in Vancouver. Come hang out with, Chris an I and the Blocked Party guys!!! There is much more Chris at twitter.com/thecjs and of course https://www.patreon.com/notevenashow And for more Guys content, streams and SHOCKTOBER: a deep dive into shock jocks you can click patreon.com/guyspodcast twitter.com/murderxbryan and  https://bsky.app/profile/murderxbryan.bsky.social   Guys is on Instagram! https://www.instagram.com/guys.pod Guys has a Post Office Box now! PO Box 10769 Columbus Ohio 43201    

Hey, welcome to this thing of ours. This is guys, a podcast about guys. It's me, Brian and my rat fink co-host Chris James You're a rat and you're you're a rat like I Okay, you're not even gonna let me retort Not gonna do this the whole episode are you um so our rat is like I know what a rat is obviously a stool pit I mean, somebody who

rats people out and I, I'm not a rat. I promise you I am. I will. I do not have loose lips. I will never rat. I will take every single one of your secrets, Brian to the grave. And you've told me some absolute wall. I've never told you a secret that is it hasn't been on the show I don't think except for yesterday when I talked about my Dad I was texting my dad called me. Mm-hmm. So immediately he's like, oh you've been I've never told you a secret except for him yesterday When I did tell you a secret about my family was texting with Chris while my dad was talking to me about every Cruise he's been on and that's gonna come up on guys plus I mean this was pretty interesting to me because I didn't really have any context for it. He said, my dad called me and he won't

stop talking about cruises. And the stuff that he was talking about was explain what he was talking about. Let's introduce our guests. We have from the mafia, Dan O'Sullivan. Hey Dan, hey, hey, come on over here. Hey, manja. T-shirts. What does that mean, manja? Eep. Ah, yes, oh, I know that's okay.

So that's very, the French. That's like the French version. No, it's Italian. Yeah, but it's like, it's the same, essentially. I'm coming from the same root word. Hey, mama mia, my dad, I called you yesterday. I don't think we should do this type of talk. I think we should get it out of our system.

Okay. I did have a question. Am I the most Italian person on this call? I'm a 16th Italian. Oh yeah. I'm not any Italian. I'm zero Italian, yeah. But I would never know anyway.

I could be Italian, but I don't think so. I think I'm English and Irish and then, you know, I'm a little white trash. So I like to say I'm one sixteenth Cherokee to your you're you're sort of a you're the JD Vance figure of the of the call. Right. Yeah, he is in many ways the many respects see a figure of the podcast. I and I am Scottish and Norwegian, so I'm a European. You're the Tim Walls smore.

I'm more of a Tim Walls. I'm kind of a down home, lovable kind of character. You know what I mean? I people like me and I'm not weird. It's weird because we have the opposite politics of it, because like Chris is very conservative and I'm right. I'm very, I mean, I wouldn't say very, I'm more conservative than you.

No, this is a main episode. We're not going to be putting that type of bullshit out there. No, I am. I'm not a conservative person. Now, Chris, you would tell me before the call that, no, I wasn't. No, I wasn't. Whatever you're saying. I was not telling you that.

Okay. You're sick of taxes. It's fine. Well, they go to poor people. You hate it. No, I'm what I'm poor. And I and I benefit from the taxes. I think like everybody, you know, I get frustrated when tax season comes around

and you have a bunch of taxes to pay. But that's you know, that's a whole listen. Why are we doing this? No, no, no, no. I mean, all I was going to say was you were just excited for Trudeau to be going and you were saying that and that's true as well. I also hate Trudeau. I don't vote for Trudeau. We have a different party here, a third party in Canada called the NDP that I'm also very unhappy with, but that's who I vote for.

Right. Yeah. Well, I spent some time this week on a bulletin board. You know what those are a forum Do those do those really still exist? I mean, I'm thrilled Gangster BB is very oh, yes. Yes. Yes. Okay, so this is gangster This is this is people talking about mafia type gangsters Yeah, I just wanted to just just for everyone, because I'm sure there's some people listening right now who they do want to hear a little just your dad with the cruise ships. Can you just say what your dad was talking about? He just explained

to me the three rules of going to a comedy show. Never show up late. True. Never leave early. True. Never sit in the front row. True. He's he's absolutely three for three. That's what I told Brian too. I was like he's got it absolutely right and I'm sure the reason he's telling you is because he senses that you don't follow or care about those rules. I would say I'm somewhat of a comedian. I wouldn't call myself a stand up comedian, but I do have you wouldn't. Yeah, I wouldn't, but I do stand on stage and tell jokes quite often.

And if there are rules of comedy, I might know more than him. You know, I know what the state to stand ups. I did two shows with stand up comedy guy. Did you guys know what the secret of comedy is? I don't. Chris does. What is it Chris?

I'll let Dan say it. Yeah, Chris knows it. But yeah, it was weird, man. He just he wants me to go on a cruise with him. I don't I was timing. See, I knew it. I was I was waiting in anticipation. He wants me to go on a family cruise and I you know, obviously we did cruise guys already and it's just doesn't seem like the kind of vibe that I would be interested in. So he was trying to go ahead then. No, no, please. I just, he was trying to bond with you. Now that sounds like he's trying to bond with you and connect, but Dan, please.

I was going to say, uh say before we had too far field. I did have a guy's idea. It's sort of a substrata of the Disney adult. And it's coming from advertisements here in Southern California. The Disney Goff adult archetype, because they're we're getting closer to Halloween at Disneyland here, which is a very special time of the year where they have something called the Oogie Boogie Bash and evenings of Gothic pleasure at Disneyland.

It's a whole makeover of Disneyland for sort of a spooky theme. So you're going to be seeing a lot of aging Goths coming out of the woodwork and going to Disneyland. Just might be something to keep in your. Keeping your, uh, wheelhouse. I want to do the Disney adult thing and it is am, it is out there as like just an

ambient thing that there's two things that have been out there. One of them I never thought of in my whole life is lottery guys. I never, it's not on life is lottery guys. I never, it's not on the list. Yeah. I didn't ever think about it. Then I was, and it's crazy because people pitch guys stuff to me all the time. My wife was like, you ever think about lottery guys? Cause apparently she follows a bunch of guys that buy scratch. Just do

the scratch off and have scratch off strategies and scratch. I knew I knew a friend like that. He he used to do that a lot when we were a little bit younger. And yeah, it's like it didn't really work out. He's not rolling in it. Well, and there's a mafia angle to that, which is the lottery is really just descendant of numbers and policy wheels. All these mafia gambling rackets. Yeah, it's kind of I know about the numbers because I lived in the Bahamas.

I think I've mentioned that on the on the on the podcast. But yeah, the that was a huge thing in the Bahamas. Now, I'm like way later than it ever was in America. So there's all these people that we knew that made their money in the numbers. Like guys around town, you know? Right. Well, I mean, they only legalized the lotto in America in like 60s, 70s. And, you know, we would have probably continued on. No problem without that.

You know, but the government did was sports. What they did was sports betting today. They did back then, which is give us we wanted on it. You know, yeah, yeah. Why are we letting this happen in our country and if people are making a bunch of money and we could easily do it? Yeah. Inadvertently killing organized crime, because when you start reading this stuff, you're like, so all that's left is drugs.

Yeah, really. And, you know, I know that the Italian mafia does sells drugs. There's no question about that, but they're not supposed to. They're like, they're supposed to be above the drug trade. Well, it's very, no, it's, it's never really been true. I mean, the Godfather, the plot of the Godfather in so far as there is one is about whether they should enter the drug trade or not. And that's what incites everything. It's very interesting.

I mean, Chris, you might not believe this to me. The most interesting mafias in North America are in Canada. Yeah. Yeah, I believe that we're very, very interesting people. You know? No, no, not you. Not people like you. I mean, people from other places. But we're very we're all very similar up here. Not even the part of the country you're in. I mean, far, far away.

Like Montreal is the one I know. I know all about the Montreal, the Rizzuto crime family. And yeah, I'm familiar with them. They have a big connection, obviously, to New York because they're so close in proximity to New York, so they're able to do a lot of stuff and importing and such and things like that that maybe is easier to do in Canada. And there's a lot of, yeah, I, I, but listen, we got some, we got some gangs out here and but not the mafia in the, on the West coast, really. Yeah. We don't have, it's funny where

I live is like no culture, just the most boring place you could ever possibly live. Like if you make a TV show, literally Joe Perra is making a TV show and you want to pick a boring place. You pick Columbus, Ohio. That is the place to pick. The claim is that the Youngstown mafia owns a bunch of businesses down here that are fronts. And I kind of believe it because like there are bars in downtown Columbus that I have never seen have more than six people in them. Name some of the bars on your popular podcast. Granaro. No.

That's one of my tickets closed now, but it was open for like years. There's never a way there. I was making what I thought was a joke. Yeah. Julip. No, no, it's not. They think that one was weird. And a look at me like who? Why is there nobody ever, ever anybody here? And then people like, is a mob front?

And I'm like, oh, Brian, not to not to harp on this. Do you have like a cross street? We have an address we could go. Yeah, it's on Park Street. OK, it's kind of in the Park Street Arena district area. It's closed now. So it's not mafia anymore. I see. OK. But yeah. And the neighborhood I lived in before I've talked about this, the school

district lines are drawn in a very strange way. And what it is is you're trying to figure out like what how they work. What what's the rhyme or reason between behind how that because the house next door to the high school is in a different school district. It's not they don't go to that high school. Ah, no, I had looked into it when I was in college and found out that it was an Irish neighborhood that they redlined. Yes, they drew straight up, just drew lines so that they could keep Italian people like drew lines around Italians houses.

Yeah. So there are houses that Italians lived in and like the 1800s or something that are like, well, we don't want you going to the school, but then there's a Columbus Italian club in that neighborhood. And everybody has like, oh, there's all kind of mafia going on in there. But that happens all the time. I think when, when people just see an Italian American club or whatever, like, oh, you mean the mafia? It's like, well, they do other stuff. Not every Italian is a mobster. Maybe they play bocce there.

I mean, they're into football. I know, like they're huge into footy for sure. Like there's other things that they enjoy. Yeah, not here. Mafia is not in there into football. Ohio State University. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Ohio actually does have some good organized crimes. I could Cleveland Mafia has some good stories.

Cincinnati was very important in Prohibition because there were so many bourbon distilleries around it. Happy. Yeah, yeah. Turkey. Well, was it? Yeah, but if it's across the river from it. Yeah, but so you're talking like non-pappy bourbon. I don't know enough about. I don't know enough.

You've done bourbon, guys, right? That's the thing. Disgusting if it's not Pappy. If it's not Pappy, we won't. It's so good. Well, it's happy. It's like I could see somebody like you being able to enjoy another bourbon. But people like Brian and I who have had Pappy a number of times,

it's like the literally tastes like pissed us. Yeah, might as well just drink Jack Daniels. I just felt like Jack Daniels. Oh, he went there. I remember I'm not really a drinker. I tried about probably about 15 years ago now. My roommate back in Chicago had a bottle of whiskey or bourbon called Old Grom's and Old Grom's apparently

was a type of liquor that would only be given out to Chicago City employees. Totally corrupt. Speaking of my. Yeah. Type thing. You can tell there because there are literal family names on everything. We're like, yeah, like the daily. Something going on here.

So I tried it and it was like it was like something you could clean an engine block with. It was just, you know, it was one of the worst things I'd ever tasted. But that also seems to be a Chicago thing of what's the liquor that most is like losing a dare to drag happy is like it's got a high proof, but it goes down very buttery, it's really buttery, super buttery. And it's like buttery down your throat.

Like it's like, let's This is a post on gangster BB. Yeah. What do you guys think? Um, what do you what? What's the most common reason someone's turns a rat? Oh, that's a very easy one. It's because they're being threatened with jail and want to save themselves from jail. Rush Street says, so we all hate rats.

Well, yeah, I think. By the way, Rush, I'm sorry, the username Rush Street. That's the old nightlife corridor in Chicago. Yeah. So already just giving you a little bit of insider information like this guy knows where they hang out. You know, see very, you know what I mean? Like very cool name, very cool name. Thank you for telling me that that name was cool. I didn't even know. So we all, you know. hang out. You know, see very cool name, very cool name.

Thank you for telling me that that name was cool. I didn't even know. So we all, you know, so we all hate rats. I think we can all agree. They're pieces of shit, especially the ones who rat on their friends and own crew. Well, yeah, I think that's yeah. The other one, I mean, yeah, right. As opposed to the other mobsters.

I want to be clear. I mean, you can also rad on other people. That is a thing they do. You know what I mean? They'll like rat on another crew or whatever. They'll be an informant and they're informing on the other crew. Like the boss is a whitey bulger. Yeah.

Yeah. But in a general big picture, what's the real reason or reasons they choose to become a rat? Pyro noid of being whacked and spelled P Y a higher. They might be pyro noid paranoid, afraid of serious prison time. The idea and thrill of being a mobster brings them into the life. But once they get any pressure from the feds, they crack and agree to cooperate. Once they get any pressure from the feds and they just immediately crack

and the crop rate, I picture these guys all like being like, oh, they're going to get a whack. You know what I mean? But they're all like regular guys sitting in front. Yeah, they're just like, they're just like dirty Internet guys who are like fantasizing and who watched a bunch of good fellas and, you know, sopranos and shit. It's really funny to to sort of style yourself as a mafia expert.

So you can go on a web form and say, why do these guys keep writing a little bit of discussion here? Are they asked to kill somebody even though they're not cut out for it mentally? Yeah. Someone not giving them a share of what they're owed and fucking them over, which drives them become a rat. What are you?

It sounds like, it sounds like, you know, the reasons well, and you've just laid them out. Like, is that, did you just want to tell people that you know the reasons you don't have to like frame it even as a question you can just tell people hey I know this stuff. Furio from Naples said uh oh shit. Oh Sopranos. Sopranos. You might get this if you've seen the Sopranos please continue. I have barely seen it and I even get it joined in November 2010. So a little late to the party. Yeah, he goes, maybe in a pyro. No, he spelled it the same way. Pyro. No, I P Y R A.

No, I just had a reference to something. I don't think it is like a mafia thing. One guy spelled it that way. And that guy, yeah, he's copying that guy because he doesn't know how it's actually. No, I think he probably is making fun of him like they're. I don't know. Yeah, I don't think he goes pirate. That's a generous interpretation.

I would say piranoid of being whacked. Maybe in the 1980s when bosses like Scarfo or a moose so can order to kill somebody only for the suspect to be a rat. Now, Scarfo, Vickamouuso, just just to fill you in. Are you not picking up on these? I know. I know. I know. Nikki Scarfo. I didn't know the second name because now because now because mob don't kill anymore.

So you can rat make money with podcast books and walk in the old hoods without risk. If a mobster don't have a son in the life or other reasons, it's unlikely he'll accept long sentences and maybe get out after 20 years and find himself without money, not to mention he risk being killed or injured in prison. So, well, yeah, and also just it's just considered, I think, generally bad to go to prison. I think it's just like I don't think you need a reason for not wanting to go to prison. It's a thing. I want to do. I don't know, Chris. That guy made that internet post pretty authoritatively.

Yeah. I think he might be right, actually. Well, Ralphie Stifforetto says. Another Sopranos character. These guys are like Sopranos a lot. And these names aren't really, it's not like a play on it. Yeah. I mean, it's not like a clever.

That's usually what you do with the username, is you would like sort of do a variation on it or like on it or like, no, it's like Michael Corleone double Oh seven posted. Well, there's a few funny ones coming up, but Ralphie Cifuorano says if I was facing serious time, I wouldn't hesitate to rat. I'd be honored. So that guy, okay. So you sound like you're a rat. I kind like kind of a rat, sir. I like that guy not really getting what the other guys are talking about here. Exactly. He's like, yeah, well, we all would, right? You know, I mean, of course, none of us want to go to jail.

But I mean, truly, he's actually the only honest one there. I know. Because the truth is all of them would rat and avoid going to jail. Yeah. Jay says they're afraid of prison or too selfish to adhere to the oath they took. That is I mean, OK. So when you asked me to come on the mafia guys episode, I feel like that post is sort of the defining type of thing we have here of like

what I think of is the mafia guy archetype is the guy sharing on Facebook a meme where it's like a photo of Al Capone and it's like back when gangsters had class. Yeah, something like that. You know, yeah, like they're not happy with current gangsters. Yeah, because people were like, are you people were like, are you making fun of gangsters? And I was like, absolutely not. I mean, whatever I would. I mean, whatever. I would. I don't care.

Yeah, Brian, Brian, he was naming a bunch of mobbed up locations already in his city. And by the way, I don't really it would be really funny to think of them, you know, like paying. Let's say we're paying Brian a visit listening to a comedy podcast. Hey, we put we contributed to your Patreon and yeah, it doesn't, I don't want to, you know, listen, the idea that they're just searching episodes of podcasts word mafia as well. You know what I mean? Is to make sure that nothing untoward is being said. It'd be a shame if something happened to that bonus episode. You know, I mean, it's funny.

It is like, but it's like making fun of gangsters would be fun. And like, I think it would be very funny to do that episode, but I do think that guys is not necessarily guys is about the fans. Yeah. This sort of thing in a way that like, so it's guys that are too in like Alice Cooper is this guy's name. I think everybody, I think, I think everyone is familiar enough with like mafia guy, like people who are, everyone knows like that who are written. It's a big thing. I mean, Scarface was a big thing that put people into like that sort of like drug dealing, whatever. But yeah, the Sop Scarface was a big thing that put people into like that sort of drug

dealing, whatever. But yeah, the Sopranos was a huge one. And good, good fellows, my era. Good fellows just turned everyone into a fucking laser. Yeah. But but but yeah, I, you know, I want to bring this up. I tried to start a mafia. Oh, sorry. When when I was a teenager. Well, like you mean like in a silly kind of way.

No, we sat down. I was like, let's have a meeting. We'll meet. Let's have a sit down. Were you into drugs already? I don't know what year you got into drugs. I don't know. Seventh grade is when we seven days.

That's the first time we started with grade. So were you taking pills and stuff when you were making these decisions? No, but we're doing acid and smoking weed and stuff like that. Doing acid. I'm sorry to say the two least mafia drugs, you know? But we were like- You were taking LSD, hippie shit. Yeah, you were on the hippie shit and you were- but so who decided to start it?

Did you have kind of a- Me. I saw Goodfell fellas and I was like, have you guys heard of the mafia? And then they saw good fellas and I was like, we could probably, I swear I said this and I even wrote it on paper. Cool. I said, what we'll do is we'll go up to the nerds and we'll tell them, we'll

defend them if they pay us their lunch money every week, got ourselves a little protection racket in your, who are you talking to? I know Porno Sean. Or Sean. The Ray Liotta voiceover coming on Porno Sean was not a guy you'd want to get angry. I mean, honestly, porn, porn, Sean really was the only one who I would because he was trying to start a pornography store by accumulating

OK, large amounts of pornography, which is probably the most mafia thing. Yeah, that is a total. Yeah. That any of the people were doing in the, in that group, I would say. He was my toughest friend. Poor No-Sean. He also beat people up. So he was an enforcer as well. I mean, honestly, he's the only one who sounds like he was sort of cut out to be in the mafia.

I mean, any any head and he has the nickname porno shun. This is good. We're good to go here. You know, I think I gave him that nickname, but still. Yeah. Yeah. But still, he yeah, he has a cool mafia nickname. He was tough and he was enterprising with, you know, having to do with sexual activities. That's very mafia. So we sat down. We couldn't we couldn't get it going. So we just went around the neighborhood beating people

up. What the fuck are you talking about? What do you mean you went around beating people up? That's what we did. Like, like people that you knew or like, like, you would just go to rent you like stranger attacks. Those are referred to as stranger attacks. No, not well, yes, I would

But not in a way. We have a big problem with those in the city They're like on the news and stuff like that. Not only it sounds cuz we would start warm like old old And what we would do is Okay, I would talk shit to him because I have, I'm able to talk. That was my skill. So what would you say to them? Give me an example. Hey, you fucking geek.

Nothing good. I bet you, I'm sorry. I won't make you, I won't make you say what you said because I'm sure it was not good. Or it was just like, you know, look at this guy's Bobo shoes. That's how I got, you know, I said a guy's Bobo shoes. That's how I got, you know, I said a guy had Bobo shoes. He punched me right in the fucking face and uh, it was very, it, I got beat up. I lost the fight. I didn't even get a punch in. He threw me in the car. Wait a minute. Where were your friends to back you up then you were, they did back me up. Pornoshan ended

up punching him in the face and he left. Wait a minute. So your, your job was to start the fight with these guys. So you say you have bubble shoes and the guy punched you in the face. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was quick. That guy was like, that guy knew the score. He was just like, Oh, this guy's the agitator. He can't fight for shit. He's going to try to get in here, talk some shit and get me going. I'm going to fucking make it count. I'm going to violence. Like it was crazy. Cause I was just making fun of you. But you were trying to instigate violence. I know. I know. I was, I was, I mean, I'll tell you the story. This whole thing happened in one day that me and my friends and this dude, Damon, who was a cool guy, he was very

cool and he could fight. He was like the fastest. So we sent Damon. We were, we beat up this guy with the bad shoes and then me and Damon and my friends went and we found this other older guy named less. That was a fucking asshole. He was just the worst. He was just the biggest scumbag you've ever met. But he was like a normal guy. No, he was not a normal dude. It was like, you know, and like Brian's just describing him this way so he could somehow justify him and his friends fucking gang, like gang beating him. It sounds like, hey, less you fucking pussy.

And, you know, we're we're we're getting on less after the after the first fight. And then the fight wasn't really a fight, though. And then the guy that beat me up that porno Sean punched jumped in his mom jumped in the fucking car and tried to run porno Sean over yeah well I mean listen listen and then we were like on this guy totally justified yeah she tried to run over but she ran over over the bike, which was a bike we stole. You stole the bike? Yeah. God, man. You were, you were, there was like, you were a really, you were a really troubled young man.

I wanted to start a mafia. I know. Yeah, but I didn't realize like, so. First I saw boys in the hood, right? When I was in sixth grade and I was like, we got to start a gang that I I did have a question for Brian. Did you see the second half of either of those movies? Goodfellas and Boys in the Hood? I thought it was so cool, man. He didn't he didn't sort of the ending part where it all falls apart register with me that it was bad. It was like because I was like, I'm not going to fuck this up. You know, yeah, when you're young to you don't really like

because I watch those movies and I didn't see, you know what I mean? I just sort of saw the the glorified elements of them. You know, the other parts didn't register. I guess if I may, I came at it from a different angle, being the guy who was constantly getting his ass kicked by roving teen gangs. That's interesting. We have both. I was sort of we get both sides of the embrace the debate. I feel bad about it now.

Sure. Yeah. I thought that even sound doesn't sound like I do. I have to try to atone for several years. I've said it. We've talked about it on guys many times. It's like I've I was a piece of shit kid as well. And I, I had did a bunch of things that I would be embarrassed to even, you know, and yeah, you got to grow up and get a, you know, become a better person and improve yourself. But yeah, Brian, I mean, I, I really wanted to go, I didn't rove around the neighborhoods in a gang and beat people up. But Dan, and I'm really interested because I want Dan's perspective on this as someone who's beaten up often. Right. These gangs.

Well, I, you know, I'm I'm very tall now, relatively speaking. So people never think that I was like like that back then. I got my ass kicked all the time. And it was, you know, it's in like northern New England. So it's like always on ice to it's like a it's like a hockey fight where I'm not I'm not a fighter and then I'm just being ran into. And, you know, so not to get delved too much into psychology. It's great. You guys feel bad now.

I felt bad then. Yeah. About it. Oh, I think you guys feel bad now. I felt bad then. Yeah. I like that you guys, I never beat people up just to be clear. I didn't wander around the neighborhoods beating people up. There was a group around my neighborhood called the Wrecking Crew. Okay. And they were sort of like a gang. Mafia.

They became like gangs. Some of them became real gang members and drug dealers and stuff. But yeah, they would do that. They would sort of go around and it's like they would beat people up and they were, you know, they were known and just to find out that like, I'm now doing a podcast with like a member of the wrecking crew. The Madison Mafia, that's what that is. Cool. I never thought I would get here. But yeah, I mean, listen, we are Brian's the sweetest guy now. He's not like that. And I was in too. I got beat up so many times.

Like let's just put it like this. I took a lot of fucking punches for my man. Yeah. But but it's because you were going in and instigating violence on behalf of your friends. That's that's not, you don't, you're not going to get the sympathy that Dan gets in a situation. You know, I mean, I Brian, I got my ass kicked because I was walking home from school. I'm just saying you see how it's it's different here. You know, I agree. I should and that does suck. That does. You know, I got my ass beaten.

I don't know why I'm like excitedly telling about all this getting my ass kicked story. But I got my ass kicked on Halloween one year by a guy who. Can you guess what his job is now? Police, you have to be a fighter, air traffic controller. Oh, OK. That's hey, you know, that's a good job. He's saving lives by not fucking up. I guess it's not really. Isn't that the weirdest job for a bully to go on to do?

You know? Yeah. I mean, bullies sometimes are troubled themselves. Oh, yeah. You know. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. I mean, almost almost hurt people, hurt people. That's I agree. That is a true thing. Yeah. So what about this guy? Are Ryan? Hey, Brian, man.

Hey, Brian, Brian, I love you, brother. Thank you. Here's a question from I'm sorry. I just want to add, I became a piece of shit later as a result. I should also end up somewhere. And then I got over it. But yeah, that's what happened. The bikers. So here's a question from Furio. The bikers are the new mafia.

Well, they are doing organized crime in a way. So there is certainly where I am in Vancouver, you know, that there's a lot with the ports and the importing of goods that they have taken a lot of the organized crime elements. So I think that is kind of accurate in some places. Furio says today 1% biker club are more numerous than the American mafia at its peak, more violent and able to run lucrative rackets and don't fear the prison. Many Italian prefer to join the bikers. There's a photo of a biker with Omerta tattooed on his bald head. The biggest clubs like Hells Angels, Outlaws and Banditos are also international with many

chapters across the world. Okay. All right. I have a few things to say about that. I'm so glad you brought that up because the bikers have kind of become. It's not a surprise to me that like Trump people are very into bikers now. Like, I don't know if you've seen that, like when I covered the Cleveland RNC in 2016.

Oh, my God. Yep. Did you see? Did you see the bikers for Trump who came there? And they shook, they respectfully shook all of the police hand. Like they were showing up outlaw shit. That's outlaw. Right. So the police have to show up when a mob of people shows up. It happens all the time, but like they, if a mob of people that maybe are left to the left side of they'll smack you in the head with, but if you're on the right wing side and I'll just stand there and get a guy, the bikers all got off

their bike, turn their bike off, walk to the line of police officers and shook their hands and said, thank you for what? Yeah. And I think it look, if you read the Hells Angels book by Hunter S. Thompson, it is not like that in that book at that time. It is very, you know, confrontational with the police. But I'll say this bikers, you mentioned ganging up on a guy. And this is this is true as far back as that book in the 60s. The essence of the biker gang to me is six guys beating the shit out of one guy. That's what that is. They're fucking cowardly

and scummy, and they but they appeal to this right wing sort of sensibility that is very fresh right now. I think, you know, I agree. There's a weird. I think. I know, I agree there's a weird, I think it's so much, they have so much control over organized crime, like the drug market where I am. Yeah, the reality is in Canada, bikers are extremely, I mean, you had that nightmarish war

in the 90s and early 2000s. They were killing like judges and stuff like that. Very scary. But I will say about the valorization of it that this post is doing is not really true. The Hells Angels or whatever in Norway, it's like Al Qaeda almost where it's like, all right, some guys there are calling themselves that. They may have to jump through some hoops to get the name in a way that's respectful to some chapter back in the US.

But it's not one guy is running all this shit. It's not. Yeah, they don't know each other. They might see each other at one event, one world, you know what I mean? Where they like, where they come travel over and they're allowed to come to a barbecue because they have their colors.

But yeah, they don't know each other. And yeah. Well, NY mafia says no offense, FURIO, but I completely disagree. I knew this was coming. I knew this was coming. Yeah. Despite their numbers and all the other rhetoric, for the most part, bikers are mostly dirtbags who have little brains and even less guile.

And if you're referring to running drugs, that's about the only thing they fully immerse themselves in. 95% of them have no finesse and little sophistication about them. That's so funny to defend the mafia by saying that, like in their mind, right? Cause they're wearing suits. What do you mean? They're wearing beautiful three-piece suits

and they got their hair pristine. And so what do you mean? They must be smart. I mean, this is- The dumbest guys in the world, by the way. I watched- Some of them are incredibly dumb. I watched that documentary about the world, by the way, I watched some of them. Some of them are incredibly dumb. I watched that documentary about the C the series on Paramount plus about the CIA, uh,

hiring mobsters to kill Fidel Castro. Yeah. So funny because they do everything except for say they were too stupid to kill. Well, that was the whole thing. I mean, really the story of that. And that is a real thing. You mean, really, the story of that and that is a real thing. You can look up involved the Chicago mob and Sam, Giancana and Tampa and all these guys. The really funny thing is, as best I can tell, those mobsters, the CIA hired to kill Castro, had no intention of doing that and just were doing it to use the federal government to help reduce some of the pressure on them so it's just these stupid guys outwitting the CIA which is kind of funny yeah right the US mobs depleted numbers and the dismal

condition they find themselves in for the most part many of us many of those still operating have the ability to conduct sophisticated scams, frauds and other rackets. Generally speaking, but that's NY mafia. I hate to say this. I sort of agree with NY mafia. I think I sort of have to concur with him that even in a weakened form, I'd rather be in one of the mafia families and the biker all the way. Me too. Definitely. I would rather be in one of the mafia families on the bike. You're all the way. I mean, I mean, I mean, too. Definitely I would rather be with the bikers than the mafia. Just like fucking their outlaws, you know, they don't care about rules. Yeah.

That appeals to me more. No, mafia is all about rules and fucking you got to abide by this and do this. That's my nightmare. I hate that shit. So I like to like cool, Chris. You know what I'm talking about? Like a biker guy, you get to wear that leather thing. No, she will just look at you like, yeah.

I mean, he might get me, you know, I, I, and it can like, I, it's a little bit more difficult for me because I think that like the hell's angels around here, there's like a bunch of the top guys who are like really, you know, smart and who, you know, they're very successful. And I don't think that's the case a lot of places. I think it's pretty unique to like Vancouver because it's the big port on the West coast

and they have like so much control here. But also, I don't know, they're just, I don't really wanna hang out with any of them. I don't either. If I pick, though, I'm going know, they're just there. I don't really want to hang out with any of them. I don't even I don't really have bikers over. Yeah, if I had to pick, I would pick bike. All that says Hollander says the Hells Angels and other clubs do have very serious people with international connections. They will also look after their brothers and help.

Yeah, right. I have angels in Canada can go to Australia or Germany and they welcome them with open arms. A very powerful Australian fugitive, fugitive Hells Angel, for example, lives in Europe. In a pic, he was wearing a Hells Angels Motorcycle Club Belgium shirt. So I mean, that can I mean, I guess that is one truth is that you can go to non extradition countries and you probably you know, you might know somebody in a Hells Angels place there and they would at least hold you up, but they're not going to like help you kill something like, you know, there's no. I mean, I think that post is kind of good in that it gets at how much of this is

cosplay. Yes. You know what I mean? Like that. Well, they can go over there and wear a shirt there. It's like, yeah, I know, I know they can, you know, that's like not as impressive as you maybe think it is, you know. Might even be by, you know, me and Chris saying, you rather, you're buying into branding.

I mean, the Hells Angel has much better branding. But I disagree with Dan on this, I really do. And I don't usually disagree with a guest. I don't think I ever have before, but Dan, I disagree with you because I really do. And I don't usually disagree with a guess. I don't think I ever have before. But Dan, I disagree with you, because I really do think that it is a thing where you at least have somebody where you could like go to a place. And that is it's really meaningless in almost every

single instance. But it's like, hey, I'm going to go to Australia or whatever you have people that you know there if you need to like, you'll never find the mafia. The mafia is like hidden. Yeah, there's another there's another side to that, though, Chris. Just consider this, which is and this is very funny because they probably would never make a post like this. And your.

Motorcycle clubs being very judgmental of every other motorcycle club, including ones with the same MC. So it's like, they don't wear their rockers right in the Netherlands. You know, like shit like that, which is very funny or like, you know, there have been cases of motorcycle clubs getting a bandito's or outlaws name,

and I'm not joking where the guys do not ride motorcycles. So that's a problem. Well, yeah, I think that it's honestly like, they're talking about it like it's some big like gang thing where it's like you have all these gang connections all over the world that makes you them really strong and powerful in this way, which I don't think is the case in most cases. I just think it's like, hey, it's this club where you know people in a lot of different places that you can go somewhere and hey, it's this club where you know people in a lot of different places that you can go somewhere and drink at a bar or whatever. You know, so it's like kind of just nice for being like a low life.

If you're traveling around the globe or something, that's about it. And to your point, they very, very much in seriousness, like the flips, the banditoes head, I think his name was Jeff something in Texas. Like he's in prison for decades right now. Like this was a very serious gangster, you know, at least according to the federal government. So, you know, look, there there are those guys, too. That's right.

Rush Street wants to know modern day mobsters versus old school. What change? First of all, revenue streams change. I think we all know that like that there's no way to make money being a gangster. He goes, yeah, let's take a look at the state of the mob in 2024. In your opinion, describe the modern day mobster and how they compare to the old school. Describe how things have changed in regards to qualifications to be a made guy or associate in 2024 compared to let's say 1974. How have the rackets changed and what kind of business these guys prefer to be involved in compared to 40 or 50 years ago. Also, how do they prefer

to handle things in regards to their business matters? Now I know that there are, I know that there, I, what I had seen was maybe what I had heard was, was a lot of credit card schemes if I'm not mistaken. That's like what a lot of these guys are into now because you know, again, there's, there's drugs and credit cards schemes, I think is what it seems like is going on with these guys. The new New York mafia said what changed LOL in my opinion, everything forever.

That's such a great response, by the way. Rusty goes, explain further, please. Yeah, please go on. Yeah. And New York Mafia says it would take a year of Sundays and I would. But as I say, it's so multifaceted that you'd have to be prepared to hunker down on your couch, grab fruit and drink and be prepared to spend the rest of the week reading in my response. So I don't think he knows anything.

This is... Because I'm not joking you. Okay, I'm doing the... I'm just in a plug. I'm doing my last season of my show. I'm not even going to say the name of it because it's not a plug. But I came up with this new character that I figured could annoy radio hosts more than anyone.

And this guy is that character. He's called Al Esplain. And he basically says, like, you know, you guys aren't really getting it fully. You're you're like not totally getting it. You're like 50 percent there probably. And then refusing to ever elaborate elaborate on what it is that they're not getting. And I tried it out and it just made some hosts just so incredibly enraged right away. And this guy is that real person that I created in my mind.

He exists here on this floor. What changed? Everything, brother. Everything changed. Everything, you wanna elaborate on that? Buddy, I could, it would take me every day on Sundays, but I could, but I'm not, you know, the problem is you'd have to do,

and then going into this long, like grabbing a cup of coffee. Yeah, sit down and drink this. Okay, all right, name one thing. One thing, if I name one thing we're going to be going on. I can't even name one because there's so many of them. The totality of it. I even said like even he said something that I said in my call, like the complexity of your oversimplifying the complexities of things.

Fasted it. Yeah, I think multifaceted is the thing. It's multifaceted. Furio from Naples says in the old days, you must like it. There's four guys on this. This is just one thread. We're really the third thread we've read. But oh, so it's really these guys are heavy posters that yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Free. Furio has 7,337. In the old days, you must be full blooded Italian carried a murder for the family to be made was the best thing because it was more easy to kill people. So the fact that must ask, must ask the okay for your boss can save your life. The families was more connected so you can take a job in a union and made many money. Also, the dope business is more profitable thanks to the tons of H from Sicily. And the best was that it was no wit sec.

There were there was few rats. So. So, I mean, what what this reminds me of is, I mean, I know, I feel like if we went on like IGN and looked up the discussions of like Skyrim. Like, uh, the dark elves are actually work with the Dwemer often. Uh, blah, blah, blah. It would be, you could just plug in the words and it would be the same shit essentially. Sorry, Dan. I, I have a thread that I think gets way more to that right here.

I have a thread that I think gets way more to that right here. Serial killers who would have made good mobsters. This is like the Mark Maron. Who are your guys? This is great. This is something that I've thought of a lot. So I'm interested to hear what they're like. I do want to hear the answers. Let's let's do this. Let's go.

I mean, then honestly, you can admit this does sound like a bit of fun for this. This is the first This is the thread I'm most interested in so far Yeah, some guys off the top of your head who enjoyed killing that would have made excellent associates or members of organized crime Ted Bundy Maybe one guy that comes to mind is the night stalker Richard Ramirez Definitely would fit in quite well with the cartels in Mexico. Okay. So he's a first round draft pick, Richard Ramirez. That Bundy would have made an excellent member. I easily could have seen him as a guy who would have taken great pride working for the mafia and being an excellent hit man, which

he would have taken great pleasure in carrying out some of the brutal murders that most guys wouldn't even been able to do. Ted had a very, very high IQ and not only would have made a great killer as we all know he was good at, but also a good earner and white collar crime or whatever they wanted them to do. That's very cool, man. That's very, very, yeah. Yeah. Hey, don't show me the lie, Dan, please. Hey, hey, Ted Bundy, it's the mafia. We're very we're very impressed with your work. We want you to come join us. It's actually kind of I mean, I guess they did a little bit.

They they got serial killers. The Iceman Richard. But he's a liar. I know he's full of shit. Yeah, I was actually going to say this, just my opinion. Yes, mafias have had guys who are so are disturbed and almost crossover being more serial killers. That has happened, in my opinion, just as someone who's, you know, read a lot of work a lot on this.

That's it's kind of not good for business to have guys like it's actually not. I would say most gangsters are not psychopaths, which is kind of more disturbing in a way. Yeah. Well, yeah, because you have to be able to trust them in a way, you know, you have. Yeah. They can't be so like, yeah. The guys who are more like this tend to bring everything crashing down on them. Yeah. Lupara says, God, I'm sorry. Can I explain what that is? Yeah, please.

So the Lupara Bianca, the like white shotgun, Lupara is a Sicilian like son of shotgun. OK. So very we know we're dealing with a genuine mafioso here. And then the Lupara Bianca, the white shotgun is like a disappearance where someone is abducted and disappears. They're only like a real mafia kind of real Sicilian mafia head is going to know that. Well, yeah, it's got to go with Manson on this one. He put together a crew that were rabidly loyal to him.

He convinced other people to not only kill, but use atrocities. Yeah. For example, he kept his own hands clean for the most part. You know, of the guys we've mentioned, he's the probably the closest thing to a mob boss we've heard. That's true. Yeah. Yeah.

He, but then, yeah, he would be like a boss versus, you know, we're thinking more, oh, they would be a hit man, of course, because they're serial killers. But yeah, he would be like a boss versus, you know, we're thinking more, oh, they would be a hit man, of course, because they're serial killers. But yeah, he could be a boss, although he's I would. I've seen a couple of interviews with him and he's got a couple screws loose. I think he might not be a great leader. He thinks he's I think he might be a little high on himself to be. And you know, it's interesting when he went into prison for the last time. I remember reading this in a book.

He was like on the low end of the totem pole inside prison. He was like beat up by the Aryan Brotherhood and used by them and stuff. So. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I guess his sort of cash, it sort of wore off or whatever. People that really care about it. Lou says he had contacts in criminal gangs like the straight Satan's, a 1% MC gang. Charlie could

have made a fortune in a drug business. I'd eat. Okay. What do I need money? What do I need money? I got all the money in the world, baby. I got all the money in the way. You know that quote. That's Charles Manson. He, uh, so about that, I mean, I can't believe I know this. Uh, he constantly tried to lure bikers into the gang to be cool. And they would come and have sex with all the girls and then leave. Yeah. They thought he was the least cool guy on the planet. And he is.

Yeah, not very cool. He's definitely not very cool. You know that he's sort of he's freaking out the ladies, you know, when you bring them when you bring them to a party or whatever. He's a very uncool guy. Well, man's man's had a problem where this guy would come by nickname donkey Dick, uh, who was a biker. Hello.

And then like, like after a while it was like, this guy has to leave. I, I, I, Charles Manson can't compete with donkey Dick. This guy's going to take over my fucking gang. You know, he's got to go. Uh, going to take over my fucking gang you know he's got to go. Uh too doped. Uh says uh John Wayne Gacy would have been a great caretaker for the families of someone from the brotherhood ended up in jail or death. I'm not sorry what what no no I don't think John what was that say that again?

John Wayne Gacy would have been a great caretaker for their families if someone from the brotherhood ended up in jail or death. Okay. I think that's a right. Cause he's, I mean, it's not, that better be a joke taste, but it's, I think it's a reference to him being a killer. Let's look at what C note things rush. Do you really believe a howdy duty looking motherfucker like Ted Bundy would command respect on the street without being connected to someone with legitimate power. First thing I was doing as a good as Shil. I'm not going to say that a loan. I don't know if that's a bad thing to say, but I know what you mean. I know what you mean. Yeah. It's good as a loan from them and dare them to come collect it. How many times have you read about John Gotti or Roy DeMaior slapping civilians in the street, never getting slapped back, killing a bunch

of sorority girls doesn't make you hard along history at dealing with people used to violence does. And that's one of the laws. This is an incredible pose because this guy's like just going Mark Wahlberg, imagining him like fucking with like Ted Bundy trying to fuck with him. Just try that shit with me Ted. Hey, Ted Bundy kid, what the fuck you doing? Yeah.

You fucking starting shit with me? Yeah. You kidding me? You're in a whole different fucking ball game now, Teddy boy. You know, this ain't the fucking minor leagues. Yeah. This guy is really hardcore. This guy.

Yeah, he's core. He ain't, you know, he knows what the next question the last question from from gangster BB Is important to the guys audience are most mob guys bourbon drinkers or scotch? I hope it In the world of organized crime what has been the more popular of the two over the years a good scotch or a good bourbon I personally prefer a good bourbon neat. So that's what are the odds this guy snuck in that he happens to like bourbon as well. You know, that's kind of interesting. Malavita says Tommy DeSimone would only drink a certain brand of Canadian whiskey. He always wanted to show he was tougher

than everybody else. So that's a very niche brand to show. And that's that's the Joe Pesci character from Goodfellas for I wondering. Very cool friend. And Henry says back to the original title of this, right? Because they ended up getting into a big fight. Wait, what was the fight about? I don't remember. I but they were arguing about the drink. It was the most heated thread. So it became a bourbon whiskey argument in the middle of

thread Okay, but I love friend of Harry because he goes back to the original title of this thread that turned into another attack on New York mafia. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah Okay, these guys were goofing on New York mafia because he's the guy you goof on on the board. We did. We saw some of his posts. His posts are pretty bad. And he goes most of the most of the Pittsburgh guys I had cocktails with preferred Chivas Royal salute. Very good. Oh, that's very. Oh, you had cocktails with some made men. Hey, excuse me, but could you please elaborate and tell us the whole story again? 35th time on this forum. This

is, this is great. Just slipping that in there. Well, now I went to a site that you know, everybody's a dork, our mafia, the subreddit. Oh yeah. Okay, here we go. I'm reddit.com. Why hasn't anyone taken out Gravano? Uh, this is an age old question in the mafia circles. Dan, I'm sure you've heard this a million times. Of course, everyone said, I know the Sammy the bull. He ratted out John Gotti rat, you know, and basically then went out and was living like a free life. And so, yes, I got to read you the thing because you'll play. He talks. You guys are going to love the way this guy talks. Kind of hard to believe why no one has clipped Gravano after he was released from prison. He has such a high profile now or what or was his testifying so long?

No one's alive from back then or no one really cares about him. He's getting clipped. Pick up. Pick pick them slick says clipping people ain't easy as it used to be. Wait, wait, wait, wait. At the end of that one, the original post that he said he's getting clipped? Well, no. Okay, so he goes why no one has been, he's saying why nobody's been clipped and he says it's because nobody cares about him and all the people he's ratted on with

the jail and then pick pick them slick says clipping people ain't easy as it used to be. What would be the point of it now? Life without parole for what if he flipped in 1960 and it was now 1990, he wouldn't be around. So. I think that's true. I think that's basically true. But I will say in the 90s, a Gravano was in Arizona and the they did figure out where

he was. Yeah. And and that was a very interesting story. It involved two NYPD detectives who were working for the mob, but it was a different family. But they had figured out where he was. And anything that would have gone further ended because Gravano got arrested for running an ecstasy ring. I remember that.

I thought I got it mixed up with Henry Hill, but I knew somebody got busted for an ecstasy ring. Yeah, it was like it was with this like it was with the sun. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. And that's that's a very interesting. There's a guy, English Sean, who was it's a very interesting story. I know that story. Yeah. Or no, Sean, not porn or ecstasy, Sean. Yeah.

Where is do we know where porno Sean is now? I know Sean is what you do in his house. In the witness protection program here, I think last year he invited Joe over. Is he taking a walk? And I walk by the minor league baseball field where I go to get my ice cream and a baseball helmet. Mm hmm. And wait, wait, wait, well, I'm sorry. I'm sorry to blame.

Do you go there? Wait, do you go to the minor league park specifically just to get the ice cream? And that's a big part of it. He doesn't even know what's going on in the game. Everybody's taking photos with the mascot and his little ice cream helmet. You know, wait, I'm confused. Are you going to the game or you walk? Close to the game. Yeah, he pays for a ticket.

He pays for the most expensive ticket. Yeah. Yeah, I buy expensive. So if you ever if you give Brian like a scale of prices and the top prices within his price range and he can buy it, he will pay the top price no matter what. He can be can be a worse thing even. But what do you wait a minute? Wait a minute? Wait a minute. Do you watch the game? Yeah, kind of. I mean, I chat with the wife, we kind of sit there.

His wife and daughter comes with him. You know, not when does it always come, right? If somebody hits a home run, I get up if it's the right team. Well, like I said, I want to clarify, that's not true. He gets excited that every home run, even the other teams home runs. So the other people hate him in the sense because he's cheering for the, uh, the way teams home run. I was really hot under the collar last game cause they were down by four. So, and then like a guy hit like a double and everybody started clapping. I was like, I ain't clapping.

Right. And Kurt, yeah, he has these weird things that he decides to like, I'm not going to clap until they come back all the way. Like he's he's he's he doesn't seem to understand even how to watch the game. It's very clearly about the ice cream helmet. There is a lot of it is the ice cream helmet and the hot dogs. But but the cool I mean, listen, these are cool collectors items, Dan, these so where you want to show all the collectors items you got from there I throw them into recycling You throw them away. Yeah, okay. I just like

People keep saying I'm like a toddler. Listen, listen people keep saying that Baseball helmet because I think it's because you're wearing overalls you're wearing overalls Like Oshkosh, bagasse overalls, carhartt whip, working on and eating ice cream out of a baseball helmet, smiling with the mask. You look like a little boy, but people only say that because of you saying it. That's true. It's true. You're like, oh, but the reason I get in a baseball helmet is that is the large ice cream and I don't care for cones. So I like to get a vanilla ice cream in a baseball. And he likes the novelty of it as well. He just doesn't want to wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute.

You could go to Baskin Robbins and get the same thing in a cup. They don't have soft serve. They don't have soft serve. They don't have soft. We got software going for soft serve. OK, you can get soft serve at McDonald's. I'm still not as good. It's not as good. I'm with Brian on that. I do understand the ballpark's got some fantastic soft serve. You always you know, and it's you know, it's a bit of an atmosphere as well.

Yeah, I sit in the best seats in the house. And I'm most expensive. The most expensive seats in the house, which are the best seats in the house and most expensive, the most expensive seats in the house, which are the best seats in the house. Not all. And they're called low seats. And they give you these chairs that recline and you got a lounge, right? Oh, loge. I looked it up. I didn't say it until I heard somebody say it. But now the guys know me.

The cop there that guards the loge area because it's where the VIPs go. He knows me and he's just like, come on in, man. He lets me jump the line. Oh, that's cool. You're friends with the cop? Not friends with the cop. I've never spoken to him, but he knows who I am. And he knows I have you guys have an unspoken. He knows I have the best seats in the house. And you know, a big thing in the mafia is communicating orders without saying anything. Oh, yeah.

And also working working with law enforcement as well. Yeah, right. Yeah. Like, you know, having people on the payroll or whatever, you know, I'm having a relation. Yeah. And I'm the guard of the fucking baseball. But I know how it works in America. Those are real cops. They just they get off their mood like, oh, they do a different thing that would happen here. And it's weird to me, but keeping people out of the VIP area that aren't VIPs.

And that's a really that's an important job for how full this is an honest question. Like, how full are the are the games like how I mean, sometimes very full of the weather's nice. It rained last week when we went so. And then they fucking started late, which really pissed me off. Well, rain delay. Let's call the rain delay. Yeah, they started late. So it's getting late.

I got it now. I like to go to my. I get I like to go get my ice cream and a baseball helmet. Seventh inning. I always go at the seventh inning. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait a minute. Wait a minute. You're going. Wait a minute. Hold on.

Wait anticipation, Dan. Exciting. I'm not. You're going to these baseball games just for the ice cream and you don't get it till the seventh inning. Well, if he eats it right away, what's he going to do? He's sitting there the rest of the time. Yeah. Also, it makes him tired, probably, I would imagine. Doesn't make me tired.

I just get it at the seventh inning when the game is like, you know, it's like, Hey, we're winding down the game here, but not necessarily with baseball, by the way, but extra innings. Have you ever, have you ever been in an extra inning game? No, but the game was so long last week. I was starting to be like, man, if I was on the Clippers, I would just strike out on purpose because they were winning by like so much. I would just start striking out on purpose to get, get the game moving along, get off work early. Yeah. I think they think of it differently in that they're in minor league baseball players trying to get a job in the major league. So they want to get as many hits as possible.

Maybe the umpire could just call everything a strike. Yeah, I think he might, he might be held accountable for that. They're starting to close the goddamn concession stands early. Well, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no beer or ice cream or whatever to get the one thing you went there for. I ran as fast as I could to get the ice cream and I was so happy that I got the ice cream. But most of the guys he flipped on are dead now. It's a new generation. We have close connection with them. And now he's all over social media. He's too high profile. And murder is so hard to get away with now. So yeah I it is sort of right it is harder to get away with murder definitely of course with all of the technology Keep in mind everybody. This is on reddit

DB no fear says uh Because he's true cosinotra cosinostra He's fucking bulletproof people came to kill him shot him a hundred times and he kept coming They stopped and said damn bro. This guy's true. Croissant. No, tra Did you take No, chan No, chan we can't kill him. It's impossible Cozanotra

I can't say it. I can't say that's close. Cosanochra. Cosanochra. Yeah, it's Cosanochra. By the way, just just not La Cosanochra. That's often done. That is grammatically incorrect in Italian. That's a fun fact. Problem or Spanish. I shouldn't have said Mexican, but you know what I'm saying. Bruno 123 499 says I pay Sammy $25 to walk down 18th Avenue with his stupid hat glasses and his quote, the Salvatore shirt on and see what happens. I don't think he's not going to take that. That's also not that much money. It's not, it's not enough money for it to

justify it. You're not giving him like a, he doesn't even think about that. He's like, it's obviously not worth that. Yeah. I wouldn't do that even if I wasn't trying to be killed. It's just like a weird, I just don't want to be involved in it. He's got money, you know? Don't think he'd get clipped, but I'd like to see him shit his pants. When a few hang around guys roll up on them and invite them into a bar for a drink. Not a thing. I mean, look, the fucking guy murdered 19 people and he has a podcast now.

That's a whole other element that we haven't even really gotten into of the ex mafia lowlifes launching media careers. That's been a big thing and becoming influencers. And one of them is Gravano. And it's really kind of sickening. But look, the these guys, they're all dead that he or in prison that he ratted on and they got other things to Really? It's like one of those idiots said they got other things to worry about than than these guys and then then Dan It's interesting you say that type of shit on a public podcast by the way after saying those types of words

I'd love to walk with you down 18th Street Yeah, and 20 how you fucking shit your pants when a couple hang around guys I mean, I'm not even talking made men. These are guys trying to prove themselves They just kind of ask you to come into a bar and you literally I mean look your pants Over here, but they might mean a little something else for your ass like a whacked I think I'm on the record as having my ass kicked the most by guys on the street, you know? So these aren't your little high school bullies. These are real serious, tough guys that I around guys. Listen to Hansi Dent 86. He, he, yeah. He

goes for all you fucking mafia want to be gangsters on here we go. Exactly as successful as I'd expect a Reddit mobster to be. Yeah. Kill one of the highest profile fed witnesses ever as a member of the organization of which they were prosecuting. Yeah, that'll go fucking great. Fucking do not around here. So that's not as a fucking do not over here. Well, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy over here. What are you buddy? Buddy, who?

What are you doing? What is he doing? How is he? How is he looking down his nose at these people? He's doing this. Does he not realize he goes fucking student out around here? It's about being as low profile as you can and be earning money. Any chump can pull a trigger, smack your knees with a pipe. Those guys are the pro away.

This is getting that one in particular is getting very close to you ever see the Connor O'Malley video about restarting the Irish mob? It's like we need we need to start running numbers and we need a we need a bunch of dogs running around a bar. Because the real gangster is the one in the background pulling in tons of cash while no one knows the wiser. So this Reddit guy, no one knows the wiser. Well, this guy goes, he's wrong. It don't take much strength to pull a trigger,

but try getting up every morning day after day and working for a living. Let's see him try that. Then we'll see the real tough guy is the working man is the, Let's see him try that. Then we'll see the real tough guy is the working man is the okay. That is very interesting because that is a guy going on to the mafia subreddit and doing cosplay as like the honest guy in a mafia movie. Yeah. Like Frank Svaka before he gets like, you know, yeah, like, or like De Niro in a Bronx

tale where he's the honest bus driver. Yeah. That's so funny to do that. Nobody's standing in the world and he's putting himself in that world. Right. He is that this is very. Yeah, this is good. Let's go to Quora. How do people even join or come into contact with the mafia?

It's a good question. Now, I'm going to read you this answer guys. This might be one of the craziest things I've ever read somebody say on this show. He is so high level crazy. He goes, uh, this guy goes, uh, okay, sounds tragic to have a group of people make you their fall guy. But honestly, I look at people every day who are concocting some way of setting me up that might benefit them. No one with power over you has ever been honest. They're not just thinking about setting you up for bogus crap.

The plan was already in place the moment they met you for your mother, father, wife, husband, etc. It's even earlier. Altruism isn't real. Your family is the mob. Ask too much from your father and you might see a man put you out of your misery when you're behind bars as an innocent man finally realizing how cold life can be. I've had my father explain this to me once men and women get that old the ego is so enlarged and calculating there's no deviating from their plan and there's no getting honesty out of them. Old people aren't peacefully

drifting out of life they're plotting your death happening before theirs. And if you think they're calculating enough to avoid that, they're plotting you being plotting you being put behind bars. The ego does not stop inflating. This goes on for a very long time. Keep going right now. My mother has a health condition and I'm living with her and my father to help deal with it. It's terrifying the way he looks when I explain actual physical problems I'm going through. It's not even humorous to him. It's a guy salivating at the thought of me dying first. The way he looks when he managed to instigate me into anger.

It's a guy salivating at me someday maybe going over the edge or possibly being able to make me look out of control to someone. Okay, this is not okay. We're going to have to stop. This is yeah, this is very obviously alarming. This reminds me of do you remember the Donald Sterling deposition where he's well, I like to have fun. I do when women are in the back of the limo and they start sucking on me and licking me. Sir, the question was, is this your handwriting? You know, yeah, well, let's look at Vincent Aveeno's answer. Cause we need a true answer on how to get

the question is the question. Yeah. Just to clarify that was to how to get in the mafia. Wait, I'm sorry. Did you guys not think that was a good answer? Cause I liked where he was going with it. I mean, I think maybe he brings it around at the end. We don't really know. Oh, it gets darker and darker. Uh huh. He just goes, these guys in a dark place. But Vincent says, there's no joining the mafia. Usually you're related to someone or have a longstanding street

reputation and a good earner. So other than that way of those ways of joining the mafia. That's right. That's right, though. That's right for the most part, right, Dan? Yeah, but it's also that's how you join. There is there is joining the mafia. You just described it.

Growing up, I came in contact on almost a daily basis, but I never wanted that life. Very cool. That's very cool. I have now mod quora answering questions about the mafia. Yeah. I'm on Quora. Answering questions about the mafia. Yeah. I have, I have many friends who took that road and paid dearly for it.

I had a good friend I'll call Joe. He was a made man and I really liked him. Respected him. His real name is Joseph. I've changed it for the purpose of this Quora answer. He had a beautiful home, drove a Mercedes and had a stunning wife. We played tackle football together. I liked that he, that he says, not flag touch. We had pads, we had pads, but if there was a problem, he could solve it all however he wanted. He had a gangster

written all over him. I used to occasionally go to his club. The feds built a Rico case against him and it took everything. He did about seven years. His wife and kid had to move in with their mother while he was away. The family left his wife broke. He came home and could have no contact with any gangsters at all as part of his parole.

He started a small business and I helped him for a little while. He did okay but died pretty suddenly. He was 62, I miss him. So okay and then at the end of it he like died you gotta get by a car or something Related to any what about what about this question guys? Why were so many mafia dons impeccably dressed? I think a lot of money They have they have a lot of money and a money that they can just spend because they can't really you know

They have to buy things with it because they can't put it in banks or whatever, you know? John says, uh, remember the opening monologue and good fellows? That is my faith. This is that's no, I don't for as long as I can remember. I always, I wanted to be in the mafia. Yeah. Well, a gangster, he goes, uh, and he'll join the mob because I don't even remember it. Yeah. Dan doesn't make, cause it's not normal to remember it I don't I mean once he said once he said that line I remembered it but I didn't even get it right and I've seen that movie a million times That's just the only line. I guess that's not that I thought they meant It's a whole monologue and they remember the whole thing

It's like the beginning he says it when he slams the car trunk Whatever talking about a bunch a whole bunch of shit and stuff He goes he was not unlike hundreds of associates who saw the disparity of wealth between the mob guys and working class parents. The mob cop captain distinguishes himself by wearing a suit and tie. He, like his financial district counterparts,

dresses for success. Shut up. Shut the fuck up. Fuck. This is the first time I'm really doing that to one of these. Shut up. Fuck, this is the first time I'm really doing that to one of these. Shut up. Fuck you. And then half of them are dressed in tracksuits, man.

This is not a thing, you know? Alternatively, it can cause one to stick out like a sore thumb. John Gotti put a target on his own back by wearing $1,000 suits and flaunting it before the FBI surveillance agents. I wanna say that they were most definitely more than $1,000 suits and flaunting it before the FBI surveillance agents. I want to say that they were most definitely more than a thousand dollars. Like, well, it was a different time though.

They were Brioni suits. They were like thousands of dollars. I do have one detailed sort of interesting, which is that John Gotti is the only person I ever have heard of who got his hair cut every day. Yeah. Oh, I would love that. I would do that if I really really that would annoy me to know. Like it would just be like a little I don't even know what there is to cut, but he would get his haircut every day.

I hate getting my haircut because I have to, you know, it gets itchy. And yeah, there is all of that, I guess. He just but he probably had a real good system, you know, I guess. Because in this day and age, most bosses will blend in with the locals by dressing business casual. The biggest giveaway is the pinky ring. This is a sign of distinction which most cannot resist. Unless you're looking- Have you ever seen an Italian?

They all fucking wear this shit, you know? Unless you're looking for it, you won't notice the $10,000 diamond ring on a boss finger. When you do, then you know. So, also- I'll be looking. I'll be, do, then you know. So, um, I'll be looking, I'll be, Hey, when I'm out at the cafe, the Italian cafe, I'm going to be looking at the pinkies now. Everyone who's listening, don't lie to yourself.

You're going to be at the Italian cafe down the street looking at everyone's pinky by tomorrow. Here's another cool Quora question. Uh, why do people think the mafia is cool? Yeah, that is this is actually I mean, I guess it's it's you know, lawlessness and like the criminality or whatever but yeah, there is that thing of People really do find it to be cool. You know James Anderson a guy with a BA in liberal arts in 1980 Says the mob has always been cool because a lot of people have a sneaky admiration for them. Granted, they've done that.

That's true. He goes, granted, they've done some really horrible shit, but most of the time they do it to each other. They rarely ever go after people outside of their world. They have a cool factor because they're willing to take what they want by any means necessary. And we wish we could do the same. I think he got it. I think that nailed up.

Crime and crime. And like the same as like from outlaw thing is same with like the bikers. It's just sort of a different way. Less rules involved. But it's that same sort of like ideal of just not listening to the rules and just doing whatever the fuck you want. And really having your own rules, right? That I mean, that's what I think that's what defines like a organized crime group. Like they have their own justice system, so to speak,

their own authority and yeah. I will say that almost, I took some criminal, I'm not saying I'm an expert, but like almost all shootings and killings and home invasions are between guys that know each other and are sort of in a life where that can happen. Uh, so like the mob does exactly that. I mean, if you're in a gang, you're more likely to kill a bunch of guys in a gang. He goes, plus a lot of those mobsters wore some serious shit.

Did you check out some of the tailored clothes? Those men wore during the twenties, thirties and forties. John Gotti topped the list. He always looked like he came out of a GQ fashion shoot. When have they when they have also proven the saying of everybody has a price. They have used big money to bribe and turn otherwise good people to the dark side. I would love to hang out with a mobster for just three weeks. That's a long time. That's a very odd period of time.

It's a very long like, you know, like going on vacation with someone for three, like a couple of weeks and it's just, that's, that's, you know, long enough. I don't think I've told this story on guys, but porno Sean one time went to do a ride along with the police. I think you might've. I mean, I've, you may, I, I, I kind of feel like I've heard it. So maybe you told it to me in private, but we worked together at the cable company and a porno Sean was like, I'm going to take the day off and go ride, do a ride along with the police. And he got there to do the ride along and he had a warrant. So they put them in jail and he had to miss a day. It was like a benchmower.

One of those like, but it was so funny because it's like, he basically turned himself in like in a way. Uh, so he goes, can you imagine the stories those guys would tell you now before we get out of here? I want to read some good fellows reviews and maybe some Godfather reviews and then the, and while here, I'm also going to sprinkle in some jokes I got from Dr. Psychotic. And Brian, you didn't hurt anybody really badly when you were part of the Maryland's gang? No. First of all, no.

Nobody ever got hurt. It was literally just teenagers fighting. Okay, okay. Yeah. You know what I mean? Nobody ever- Just the way you say it does sound like sound like, like how many of, be honest here, how many of you were there and then how many of them were there?

I mean, there were times where, most of the times when we got into- So he's really taking a long time to answer. Most of the times when there was a group of us, it was another group. Yeah, yeah, too. But we. We had a thing in 10th grade with these hillbillies that we didn't like, that that like they lived in Groveport. We lived in the suburbs by it. And like, oh, that's already a recipe for those Groveport guys.

That's a that's a recipe for disaster. We thought of ourselves as like the more hardcore people. We thought of them as illbillies. Yeah, we hated them. Really, you guys were very similar, probably. Oh, yeah. Yeah. We ended up hanging out a lot over over that. After that, we.

Yeah, I mean, that happens. That happens. Definitely. I remember that, you know, you fight with people and then you become friends with them later on or whatever Me and Pee Wee Fields have hung out. We used to hang out a decent amount That's one of the guys that was the other side And your podcast is pretty big now you You shouldn't. That's not his full real name though. Okay, okay. You think that guy's name's Peewee?

I don't know, maybe he goes by that though. He does go, we called him that. Well then it's his real name for all intents and purposes. He might be dead though, I think he's dead. Wait, he's in Peewee. We're just hated each other because we hated hillbillies. You know what I mean? Like I grew up really hating hillbillies and rednecks and stuff. Now, the fact is, I was all of those things.

Yes, I know. That's why I was going to I've seen photos of you and it's very odd to hear you say that. You hated them. Hated them. Little self-hate, maybe perhaps. Let's check this out. Where do Italian gangsters live? Italy. Italy. New York. In the Spaghetti. Oh, these are jokes. Oh, it's a joke. Okay. What do you call a gangster with clean teeth? Oral G.

What? Excuse me. Oral G. Do you get it, Brian? I do. You do. Ever heard of oral B? Yeah. You change that B to a G because they're gangsters. Oral G. Oh, oh. So the G is the G is just it's the same letter

that's that gangsters start with. Sometimes you call a gangster. Oh, wait, wait, wait. Or is it or is it like, oh, gee. Yeah, kind of like a G, but oh, gee, is a gangster. Oh, so it's a play on, oh, gee. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What about this guy?

I didn't even get that. You can't you got that. Never bother a gangster the night before he goes on vacation. He's probably packing. That's funny. That one's the first one that's actually I'll get. I'll give him that one. That one's right.

If he delivered with like real good sort of volume and timing, that would really. This is a really good one, guys. Where do gambling gangsters go after they die? I don't know where to the gangsters pair a dice. Hmm. I don't like that one. Here is a review of good fellows, five stars, but four and a half stars, I'm sorry.

Oh, excuse me. Why? Excuse me. The greatest film in the history is enlightened. Enlighten me as to what was could have been done better on this fucking film, please. Mamma Mia. Grant says I love this movie. The story is amazing and the characters are very well portrayed.

My favorite part was the beginning when it was about Henry's childhood and teen years. My only reason why this movie is not a five star is because I felt the ending was rushed. If you asked me, I feel they should have added an extra 20 or 30 minutes to the end. Oh, okay. Thank you. Thank you for your opinion on that guy named Grant. Wait a second though. He also just like the reason that the is because I wanted more. it was so good that I wanted to keep watching it and that's why I'm not giving it five stars. I take a half star off. I mean as we long movie I think too it doesn't it's like two hours right?

I mean didn't feel rushed at all. As we said before four and a half stars is zero stars. You know what I mean? Like anything that's not five stars is zero stars. Well, we we we're on a three we're on a system. We use a three star system, three star system here at guys, which is like one star is bad. Two stars is like pretty good. Three stars is really good. That's it. And I would give three stars. Yeah, I give I give good fellows three stars. Yeah. I give, I give good fellows three stars as well. I, I used to, I watched, you know, I was like that. I've, I mentioned on a past episode that I thought I was the

dude for a while. I mean, I watched good fellows a hundred times and I definitely, you know, I felt, yeah. I wanted a suit so bad, which is so funny now as an adult where like, I even had a friend that wore a suit to school. Sometimes he would put on like a, he bought a nice suit and would just wear it to school with like a tie and all that stuff. And you were part of, you're part of the cool group. That's part of the Madison mafia. I was, I was, I, you know what the, the way the, the hierarchy there worked was that the, the bad drug kids were sort of the top of the social. Yeah, no, I get that totally. I'm not doubting that, but I'm just just the guy kid who wears a suit to school is not usually in.

I mean, we're trying to start a mafia. I mean, I wasn't I wasn't wearing a suit to school and I was like till like ninth grade. I was getting my ass kicked. It just doesn't seem very cosmically fair Yeah in ninth grade. I remember this guy started a street gang because he saw the movie South Central Interesting not even started a game Yeah, he started a gang called deuce and he was like jumping they were jumping people in all the time and They were like do you want to be induced and I was like, well, we'll see how this thing works out before I let you just beat me up. Dan, why don't you both then why did not to bring up memories that are negative

in your life, but like, like, why would somebody beat you up? Like, was there like, I really precipitated it? I know. I mean, I think back on it and like, I could, I think I can honestly say I didn't, I don't know what I did to invite it and like I could I think I can honestly say I didn't I don't know what I did to invite it other than I just was it I was slotted into that category for like three years. Were you smart? Were you smart? I guess maybe that was

I Dan can Dan won't want to say this. I mean, you guys can probably tell from listening to him that Dan's a very smart guy. And yeah, definitely when you're younger, if you're super smart in class and stuff, that's enough for people that where they're just like, oh, this fucking nerd. But it's like, no, he just knows the stuff and he's good at this. You know, yeah. He and Aaron had a real fight because I said, apparently once. And he was like, well, you just use apparently what do you do?

We got into a real fucking fight. Then I said, I heard you don't have any hair on your balls. Oh shit. What did what what happened then? It was going around that he didn't have any hair on his balls. So I said that and pissed him off. Then we were swinging at each other. He's our says 29 and first watching it was last week. You can see the formula made from his film for other great movies like Wolf of Wall Street and the Irishman Because if the formula is perfect don't change it

I just honestly wish I watched it when I was younger But glad I seen it with a mature brain and seeing it fresh so he gave him five stars I guess that's okay. That's like yeah, he gets it. That's a kind of a Stupid guy, but he's still getting it. You know, what about Benja? Hey, he gives it four and a half. So AK zero because I would like to live as a good fella. OK, here's Ryan Ryan.

More review. That's a good review. That's honestly an acceptable review of the film. I would like to live as a good fella. I felt when I was a teenager and watched it. Yeah. Ryan B says personally my favorite movie of all time filled with actors that actually represent and know how to play the people they're based off of casted for. You don't see that much anymore.

Really? I haven't. I get like in all the issues with films, I know things are changing. That's not really one. I mean, that is that is sort of what actors do, right? They got to be like the person they're playing. I wonder if he's got some issue like he saw like that is the house of you know, the one where Adam, what's the guy's name, the big tall guy from Girls originally is very fat driver.

Adam driver. He does the Italian accent or whatever. It's like, I think he's probably seen one movie where I, I think that's the generous interpretation. The less generous is he's just hinting at not liking certain people being in star Wars movies or it's a woke thing. I don't even know if it is a woke thing because I can zero style. It might be if it might be a lot of stuff nowadays is a woke. I think he's just hinting at that a little bit in there.

Back when, you know, white guys played white guys in movies, I think he's sort of getting at that. But I could be wrong. Ryan B says four and a half. He goes a brilliant tale of the precarious nature of the mafia criminal underworld. One moment you're the cock of the walk, the next you're a feather duster. Springs to mind when describing this movie.

That's very annoying. And I think I know the origin of that. That's is, I think it's some soccer player said that, that line. And I know that Only because it was Piers Morgan's Twitter bio Many years, so it's probably a gunner an arsenal player then because he's a fan of the gooners, right? So it's very annoying to hear that quotation invoked with regard to good fellas

Yeah, well, it's just annoying with regard to good fellows. Yeah. Well, it's just annoying. Alex says five stars. Prepare for a new you prepare for a glance into the life of the mafia, where loyalty is important to survival with a talented cast of memorable characters playing wise guys. This film serves as Martin Scorsese's magnum opus. However, it never sheds away from the glamour of crime,

showing that everyone is an above getting whacked. This isn't possibly AI written. It's possible this guy goes this is the only movie I've ever seen twice in the same day. If if fun was a movie, this would pretty much be it. It's endless. If fun was a movie, if fun was a movie, fun was a movie this one would be it I I get what he's going for but I don't think that's what you're supposed to take away From no, but also yeah, it's yeah, it's not fun. I mean if fun was a movie I just saw Beetlejuice Beetlejuice now it would probably looks fun. Yeah, that's a fun one. I want to go see that

now it would probably looks fun. Yeah, that's a fun one. I want to go see that. Yeah, we've mentioned it, but you know, there's some pretty dark elements of this movie. Yeah, yeah. Martin Scorsese is a great evil and gangster world explorer. Okay. Oh, okay. Evil and gangster gangster world. One day you have all you wish for and tomorrow you have nothing. Great true story film so maybe english second language i think probably but yeah like i understand what that person's saying as well is that like yeah good representation of the reality of it you know let's look at the godfather josh gave it three and a half oh i'm sorry oh a guy named josh has some criticisms of the godfather he's gonna air i can't wait to hear them. Let's go.

This film obviously has a sense of realism in it that is not always seen in a movie. That's what makes it one of the best films, according to critics. I wanted to see this movie mainly so that I could find a better understanding of Italians and discover a reason why. Oh, wait a minute. Are you doing a bit? That's like a thing. That's a thing people would say as a joke. Is it maybe a joke?

Is it maybe a joke? I don't think so because it doesn't indicate that he's being funny. He goes, well, he's being funny. So that I can find a better understanding of Italians and discover a reason why this movie is so highly favored. I think I found that reason. So overall it was good. But he only gave it three and a half stars. Yeah. I mean, some people, Wendy gave it three and he

goes, I found it very underwhelming compared to the decades of hype. You're going to love this, Dan. I promise. I enjoyed the offer much more. It's a mini series about the making of the Godfather. After watching the offer, I figured I'd finally watch Ba Humbug. I watched some of The Offer and couldn't get through it. So it was that. Listen, I have this show that I love called The Offer, and it's about them making I'm thinking about like watching the little thing. I found out it's a real movie that I'm making in my show.

And so this movie that they're building the whole time called The Godfather, that is actually a real movie and you can go see it. Yeah. It's pretty underwhelming. It wasn't that good though. The offer, right? That is remember the show on Paramount plus that I was loving the offer. It's not as good as that. Yeah. Sorry, Brian, Brian, we can't end yet. We're going to talk about the offer a little bit. I know you're I have not seen the offer I have no interest in watching that at all

I I will watch a dramatization of like behind-the-scenes shit like that, but this is a documentary, right? No, no, it is a dramatization. I mean, normally I would watch that I would I would have interest in but that one that one never even never even registered for me. Listen, I've read I've read books about the making of The Godfather. Like I even find that interesting as a subject. I have I have I mean, I'll watch any mob. I have zero interest in that. And part of the reason that's so funny is Paramount was launching a streaming service.

They were racking their brains for what they could make for it. And they thought, well, we made the Godfather. Let's make a thing about making the Godfather with my teller, with this fucking worst guy out there, you know, as already the producer, it's just like, Oh, you know, dramatization. It's so fun. I got to the point where the mob found out he was making the movie and then he had to fly to New York and have a sit down with the mob,

like Joe Colombo or whoever. And yeah, it'll be, I was, I thought it was, it just comes off so fake. It's very funny. I made it, I think four episodes in. And I was like, I don't know if I can finish this. It's not good. The, the, the, the, the Francis Ford Coppola scenes are really funny because they all take place in like the same house. And he's just arguing with another guy about how to write the Godfather. He's like, Oh, we're going to write the Godfather. Hey, what the hell? I think it's Mario Puzo. He's in the room. It is not a good show. Even if you look up the offer online, I think Rotten Tomatoes, which is the official website of guys, a podcast about guys, it's got a

very bad score and we just really hard to do for a TV show. Almost all of them have high scores. There's a lot of fraud. Yeah. What is it? What is it? 57%. 100%. That's a bad show. If you ever see a show that has 57 in between 50% and 60%, I guarantee it's a bad show. If it's lower than that, it could be good. If it's higher, it could be good. Audience is 96.

Then it's terrible. It is brutal then. Yeah. I didn't like it. So I didn't finish it. Maybe I'll finish it and see if it gets good at some point. Whatever, man. You got a lot of stuff. We're pretty busy. I don't have that much to do.

I'm pretty, you know, they're making a Reacher spin off. So I might have to. Oh, really? Yeah, I'll be watching that day. Dan, where can people find you? I want to plug where can people find your fantastic article that you wrote about Chicago organized crime in one person specific, which is what made us think of you. You might get well. Well, thank you. Yeah, it's Chicago Magazine. The Last Gamble of Tokyo Joe came out last May.

So you can go find that on Chicago Magazine. And I do have a couple organized crime related things in the pipeline. I just unfortunately can't announce yet, but look for that. And you got to keep a I know how it is. I'm here with the road dogs, they know. And but keep an eye out for next year, hopefully. Yeah. And read that. I know people I know reading is really it's kind of a bullshit thing to do.

I'm not really into it, but I read the whole article It's like a long article that Dan wrote and it is genuinely fantastic in the same way as like a movie or something You know, thanks, man Wait words, what do you call gangsters living in the woods? Something like Rambo Rambo. Gangster Chris. No, but because he's in the woods and maybe a combo. I was thinking like like an animal like deer men, like something like a bear.

Oh, like that. Not close. Cottage. Geez. What the fuck? Wow. Cottage. Geez. What the fuck? Wow. Cottage. Geez. We will see you next week on guys with more jokes like that. Really? I think. I hope so.