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I'm Brian Simpson and with me is my co-host Nelson months, but you did the no fuck Martin Prince. Oh Jesus. That's an embarrassing flaw. I had it on the fucking screen and then I had to hide it to do something else. I was going to call you the nerd. I have nerd kid in the Simpsons up I'll show you guys so you're I have oh that's safe to say you you are now Martin that sucks how did I do that see I had it up on my screen this was up on my screen when I was reading the beginning of your show I get our guests on here god damn it you it is interesting that this is this is already interesting because you put a nerd in the Simpsons and there is, there's a few options definitely.

And they're all shown here, you know, obviously milhoes, but yeah, we should, we should get into that. We should introduce the guests and making their second appearance on the show for the thing they actually are do their show about, uh, Henry Gilbert and Bob Mackie from talking Simpsons who we are letting talk about the Simpsons instead of South park this time. Hi everybody. So now am I going crazy or were, were both of you guys on? Yeah.

Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going, I'm going crazy. I'm going to be honest with you. I'm going crazy because in my head, only one of you was on and I don't even know which one. It's not like I remember one specifically and like don't remember the other.

I just remember it being one of the members of Talking Simpsons, but I will take all of your word for it. You're like freaking sideshow Bob over here. Okay. We can, we can now see you, your screen is up so we can see you now Googling crazy guy from the Simpsons. So the joke doesn't really hit quite as hard. You're kind of like sideshow Bob over here. Yeah.

Sideshow Bob homicidal murder. I mean, such a Bob is a serious, serious issue. It child murder want, you know, he wants to be a child murder. Right. Oh, wait, shit. Oh, oh, I'm not going to say that guy's name. His name is the old Jewish man. That's his canonical name. That's what it says.

Yeah, I think it's fine to say that. But so we're pretty, now do you guys, are you guys, we're talking about Simpsons guys, you guys into the Simpsons? They're guests? Not really. It makes us money though, so. Oh, I see.

We're book fakers is what I'm saying. That would be awesome if you guys really just, it was all just to put on, when, how, when did you guys, when did you start watching The Simpsons? Are you old enough that you're able to have watched it from the start? Oh yeah, episode one for me, but Henry goes back even further.

Yeah, I go back to the, not the very first season on Tracy Ullman, but I really did as a, I must have been five or six. I saw the last season of shorts of Tracy Ullman. I remember being so worried that something bad would happen to Maggie Simpson's because they did a two-parter of like, Maggie is lost. And they'd never done a two-parter before.

I was five, I'd never seen a two-parter before probably. And so I thought, well, she's gonna die if I don't watch the next one. I'm so stressed out. And yeah, then I went straight to the, uh, I, I appreciate that you thought that we could be young enough to have been like, Oh man, I was, I was born in season 10. Yeah, no, honestly, you guys look, you guys look younger than, you know, than that. I feel like, cause I think I'm around the same age then because I would have been around five years old when it came out.

Uh, you know, originally brought up, what about you, Brian, were you, I was into the Simpsons. Yes. Not from Tracy Allman. I didn't know about that, but I did first season guy, you know, and I had a shirt, I had the, uh, well, my brother had the cool one. And then I had the one that in retrospect was not really a Simpson shirt.

Okay. What was what was your brother's? My brother had the one that I didn't do it. Nobody saw me do it. You can't prove anything. It's got Bart on it. Now that's a shirt. That's really cool because when you're a kid, it's like you're always wanting to misbehave

in that sort of way. And for some reason, I picked the Bart man shirt where it's Bart dressed like Batman, which isn't even really a Simpson shirt one. And two, he was never, I don't think he was ever Bart man on the TV show. Well, you guys would be able to answer that. He was, but only to reference the shirts. And I thought Brian was going to say he had the either Bart Tracy shirt or the teenage mutant ninja Simpson's shirt.

All the, all the fun bootlegs from that era. Oh, those were, I was just gonna ask. Those were not authorized by the Fox corporation. Yeah. Bart man was. Bartman official character. Official character. Okay.

It's hilarious that you have Batman huge in 1989. So they go like, well, what about Bartman? And it was just a drawing they put on a shirt and it was so popular. And I, I loved Bart man. I should say, I love Bart man so much. I had a Bart man shirt and poster. And, but yeah, it was only by the end of season two, when they go to a comic book convention, Bart dresses as Bart man to try to get in for free or half price. And so it was, it was only them referencing themselves when Bart dressed as Bartman to try to get in for free or half price. And it was only them referencing themselves when Bart dressed as Bartman.

You say you're a big, you loved Bartman. I gotta say, I hate Bartman. And that's only because I'm such a big fan of Chicago Cub Shuttle to all of our baseball fans out there who catch that joke. That's only versus the sports fans. He's the baseball guy, I get it. No, you don first the sports fans. He's a, he's the baseball guy. I get it.

No, you don't explain it. Explain it. He ran the baseball team. Well, you know, the Yankees just had their own mean Bart man like that. Though the Yankee guys put the Bart man to shame. Yeah. They, and for everyone, just so we can give context, of course, most of us know, I would say 95%. But Steve, Steve, yeah, I know, Steve Bartman was a

guy who reached into the staff famously and took the ball away from Moises Alou. I think it was Moises Lou. But yeah, the new the guy had the Yankees would happen back at that. Yeah, that was, I mean, because he ripped it out of the glove. Chris is a Yankees would happen back at that. Yeah, that was I mean cuz he ripped it out of the glove Chris is a Yankees fan cuz no I like the top teams. Yeah, so I went to a website called no homers club Hmm, apparently I don't like Homer. I guess I don't know This seems like the main But they're allowed to hey there I would say I bet you there's something allowed to have one in there Hey Thank you. Thank you. Yes. I mean, when did you you guys still watch the current episodes? I can't you have to right? I

mean, yeah, we do. I mean, so. Oh, good. No, no, no, I was just gonna say I think I ducked out maybe 10, eight years ago or something like that. Is that fair? Is that a reasonable time? Do you think? I think most people, I mean, people are age we talked to, they stop watching in the nineties. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I guess mine would have been late nineties, I guess.

So it's been longer than that. You know, time flies. Sorry. What were you saying? Oh, I was going to say the South Park episode was a lot of fun, but I feel like we this is all entrapment and you're going to play clips of our podcast back to things that we've written because I think we're on the borderline. We could be Simpsons guys.

We're self-aware enough to not fully enter that world. I thought I had since guys, I'm going to tell you why you're not Simpsons guys. So I got two reasons to tell you why you're not Simpsons guys. I can see your background. Not a lot of Simpsons stuff. The only character I can see in Henry's background is Mario Yeah, I can't see any characters and Bob's background That would be one if if you turn this thing on and you had all the Simpsons guys and believe me I'm looking at the action figure guys. So I've seen some fucking rooms I used to have I had some Simpsons action figures,

definitely. Like I was, I mean, I think like most people, I was fucking obsessed with it. So I don't think it's, I think it's reasonable, um, to have a one point been a Simpsons guy, you know, I just, I keep, oh yeah. Now, um, it's not as, it's not as good, right? Got you guys watch it. Is it not as good, right? You guys watch it. Is it not as good or what? Oh boy.

There are different standards for every era of the show. So I think you have to walk into it understanding that they can't make the show like they used to, so the standards are different. It's just hard to keep doing a show for a really long time too, maybe, with the characters and stuff like that. Why, is there on season 36 and nearing 800 episodes? Like it's been such a long time.

And then on top of that, well, you, you may have seen, uh, Brian, I don't know if you've seen this in your Simpsons guys research, but in the discourse in media right now, it is the, there is the discourse of the Simpsons are back. The Simpsons are great again. Like so. Oh, really? I didn't. Yeah, that's been surgeons. They go. Well, congratulations to them. I might have to check out some of their episodes. Some of their new stuff. You know what I watch nowadays? I have to say I watch Bob's burgers if I'm going to if I'm going to sit down with a with an adult adult with a card with an adult cartoon, adult in large quotation marks. I don't watch any cartoons.

He's got a bunch of Legos behind him. Don't get on your high horse. This guy's on his high horse and it's made of fucking Legos for God's sakes. Come on. I am thinking about buying. So ever since I started collecting Legos, I'm like, I gotta buy this Lego Simpsons set. There's a Simpsons Lego set, but it's retired. It's gonna run you about $650, but I think I'm going to buy it.

No, I was just going to say, so you're probably okay. It's a smaller set. That's what is it? What is it? What is the house and the car and the Simpsons? I mean, that's cool. I will admit that is cool. That is that is like a if I were into Lego, that would be something that would I would think would be cool. Let's let's go to no Homer and we're going to see some simpsons. You keep saying it like that and I just I don't know. It just sort of makes you think of the other phrase nowadays that they use. No Homer, no Homer. Ah, good one. This is need to disclose the fact that I read and lightly posted on no homers for about

five years. Pre P 27. So do you think I find you a magic? Do you remember what your username was? Could we look up some of your code? Oh, would you be willing? Would you be willing to do that? Would you be willing?

You know what? In the pursuit of fairness, it is Bob Servo, just like my Twitter blue sky. I made myself very easy to find, unfortunately, having been online this long. I did too. I told people my old nickname, and now it's like, forget about it.

So anyway, this is Simpsons pet peeves. This is a thread started by the abominable Dr. Lenny. And he's a stonecutter on the thing. I don't know what that means. You really don't. You don't know the stone cutters. I don't know what it means. I know that it's an episode of the sense. I don't know what it means on the board. Like where that puts you. You know what I mean? I would assume it puts you in the higher level. Like it's like you're not elite elite. Yeah. I should, I should also admit that that's

a name of a tier on our Patriot. And so Speaker 3rd-5 It's our stone gutter. Okay. I mean, listen, we're not going to be judging people's Patriot on a tier since ours are called the bull tier and the hot wife tier. Yeah, that's true. But also that is it's sort of it's really ripe for this guy because there's so many references and in jokes and stuff like that. They could just go on forever and ever and ever. So I can imagine you could find some posts where it's just there's just so many references and things like that. And it could become arguably like a little bit insufferable maybe even to people who are fans of the show

Mm-hmm. These are great. I gotta tell you some of these are gonna get you guys I can guarantee it This is the first post in the thing just for little things They do on the Simpsons that annoy you mine is Lisa beating up Bart. She's done it like a million times now It's just annoying Bart has been practically neutered as a character in general. Oh, yeah. Yeah. He could easily kick this shit out if we're thinking about like pound for pound. Why is that?

Are we saying that? Because he's meant to be sort of a you know what I mean? And she's like sort of a studious kind of nerd. Are we really saying that she's like could physically beat up Bart? That is kind of ridiculous. Right we really saying that she's like, could physically beat up Bart? That is kind of ridiculous, right guys discuss. One of the rules of the show is that Homer cannot strangle Lisa. It would just be going too far and be too ugly. So I feel like the same rules apply to other characters damaging Lisa.

So Lisa can't get punched by bar because people will be like, Whoa, Hey, then Bart would get, there's a website you can go to to get your man card revoked. That would definitely get Bart's man card revoked. It'd be at least the Simpson. This is, this is a, is now, is he allowed to, is Homer still allowed to strangle Bart in the new episode? Oh boy, man. You keep, you're stepping on landmines here. It's a, yeah. Is he, is he allowed to, allowed to, does he do it still? It's cause a woke, he can't.

Of course. What was it, how many people assume that they weren't allowed to do that anymore? And then James L. Brooks pushed back and said more stranglings, and that's how the end of the season premiere goes. Exactly, yeah. They did, so somebody noticed

that it had been like five years since he strangled Bart on the show. And then they did a joke in an episode last year where Homer said, and sometimes I strangle Bart. I'm just kidding. It's a different time now. And so then the headlines came, they're not allowed to strangle Bart on the Simpsons anymore. And then James L. Brooks released a public statement saying that is not true. He's going to strangle him forever. And he's the strangling resumed. So that's funny to be like, it's funny to be like, man, it's been so long since Homer strangled Bart. Like what's up with that? Like a guy getting really worried about the

show going woke, which we'll talk about later. Um, a guy getting worried about the show going woke and, and the wokeness is not Homer can't strangle his child. Yeah. A child of it's pretty heavy child abuse if he, but it is like, I guess it's cartoonish and silly. Yeah. His tongue sticks out in his lips. Way. That's not what really happens. He doesn't die after either. He's fine. Oh, yeah. I was in a violence gang and I probably choked. You can't don't try to own it.

No, no, no, no. Don't don't try to fucking own it. Like he tries it now. He's trying to go. Oh, I was in a violence gang. And like, he's like, oh, I had a different name and stuff. He's like, it's this whole new strategy. I promise you when the mics are off, he's just like, God, I wish you would stop saying that stuff. I really wish please. And then you'll say to me like, I'm going to try new before this episode. He's like, I'm going to try new strategies. And I was like, Oh, I wonder what that means. And now we see what it means.

Trab poo casep, pick up Bart. I think it's backwards Me and Bob can translate all these for you. Yeah, we'll give you year production code writer. I Know Yvonne at NIOSH. I do know that because I've been singing that song because the Simpsons before phones before You know smartphones you would come home from work in. No, I get it. And then the kids aren't on their damn smartphones. And I know Brian always says that, you know, because he'll say like, oh, they say there's a zombie apocalypse and it's and it's like, he's like, I actually see it when I go into the mall. That's what I use. Like, what do you even mean by that? And he's like, he's referring to the phones, I guess.

No, I mean, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like I actually see it when I go into the mall. That's what I use. Like what do you even mean by that? And he's like he's referring to the phones. I guess what I'm what I'm trying to say is it was on in syndication on Fox for like an hour every day at like five o'clock and you come home and kind of sit down on a couch and maybe sometimes I'd read the newspaper and watch The Simpsons because like it's on in the background. You've maybe it's an episode you've seen. It's like a rerun or whatever, but it's a good familiar thing to have on in the back.

And I've seen a million episodes, right? And, and then when I got my phone, I was like, well, now I just sit on the couch and look at my phone when I, but then also I don't have a real job that I come home from. But when I finished podcasting, I have to really unwind with my phone. This guy goes totally agree there. I know Bart and Lisa are brothers and sister, but Lisa beating up bark just seems out of character. Another thing that gets annoying is that the fact that Homer only cares for himself in modern episodes. Well, that's a selfish. Homer selfish from day one like that.

Recently, it's become more selfish. You haven't noticed that in recent episode. He only cares for himself. What? Yeah, just is any elaboration on that in the thread at all? Well, there's more stuff in the thread, but no, that guy just said that he's like Homer selfish these days. It's gross It was yes, isn't it kind of like it's like one of his main character traits should be a socialist Homer should be more socialist. He should he's probably done that episode, you know 800 episodes. They've probably done something like This next person goes, yeah, I thought Bart was supposed to be an antagonistic little hell raiser.

And Lisa was supposed to be his little sister, who was more intelligent than him and annoyed by his antics. But apparently, she can just kick his teeth and whenever he annoys her. I was totally fine with him fighting. But now, against all logic, Lisa is just way stronger than Bart because ha ha, a girl can beat up a boy as far as Homer goes. He suffered from poor writing on numerous occasions,

but I actually think he's been written better in these last few seasons. I love that when they start to sort of break it down, suffering from poor writing and like sort of breaking down the process of it, stepping away from it. Yeah, listen, the bottom line is we all know Bart is way stronger and also tougher than Lisa. I think we're, but we're getting away from it. Yeah, listen, the bottom line is we all know Bart is way stronger and also tougher than Lisa. I think we're getting away from the point. If they're having a fist fight, Bart's going to fucking hit her one, two left hook. She's going to be out cold. She's going to be fucking, he would be able to kill her, you know?

And that is what they're saying really is that Bart could kill Lisa if he wanted to fire. Do you guys, again, as the experts, you can't argue with that, right? Bart's got to be able saying really is that Bart could kill Lisa and he wanted to fire this shit out of our do you get you guys again as the experts you can't argue with that right Bart's gotta be gotta be able to beat the shit out of Lisa yeah we assign all the characters power levels in these that does rank below Bart of course that's that's simple I mean oh I'm this is an interesting one though for me that I'm interested in Moe, Syslack and Barney Rubble. Barney, Barney's not Barney Rubble from Flintstones?

Yeah, wait. Oh, I mean Barney Gumbel. Yeah. I, well, I would say Barney seems to be kind of unbeatable. Like, or he, he has been shown to be very tough thanks to his intoxication. While Mo is a dirty fighter, so I mean, I guess he'd fight dirty,

but if this is just like bare, stripped to the waist, no weapons, I'm betting on Barney every time, for sure. Yeah, I mean, there was that scene in Duffless where Homer is trying to knock out Barney and just slamming his head in the car door over and over. I forgot, there was a scene in, uh, in Duffless where Homer is trying to knock out Barney and just slamming his car, his head in the car door over and over. I forgot about that completely. I was thinking he'd be so drunk, you know what I mean? That he might not be able to like fight or whatever, but I forgot about the famous episode where he's like, you can't hurt him no matter how much you hit him. So yeah, not the best example. And also I did,

of course, call Barney Rubble to start. Now anyone that's going to try to fucking pound any tables right now, by the way, I got a note for flub heads because this is an important message because this has been bothering me. You got to look at a tweet that I had a long time ago where I explain it. If Brian does it, it's called a flub. If I do it, if the guest does it, if you do it, it's called the honest mistake. It happens to all of us and we don't need to bring it up and make a big deal of it. Okay. Financial Panther who is an administrator on the site says couch gags that have more

effort put into them than the actual episode. Those make me so goddamn mad. It's more than a pet. Wait, he's mad that the other good ones? Well, I think I see where he's coming from. The basically they, I'd say the last 10 years at least, they invite guests to do a couch gag. And sometimes they can be like two minutes long

and they're just a whole episode. And it is like, it distracts, it does distract from the episode a little bit to see Rick and Morty have like a full on adventure with this. Oh hang on a second Morty and Rick are in town. Now I'm now I'm interested. You know that I'm a big Rick and Morty head. Yeah I'm still the fuck the new speaking of the new season having a research and the new Rick and Morty is just fantastic. Are they still making it? Yeah, it's for five more years. Oh, five years. Thank goodness. Hey, cancel my cancel my suicide note. I've recently canceled that mine. Of

course. So I while back there on Hollywood handbook did promise Hayes that he would not kill himself. So I've been you sticking to that. So good idea. Currently we don't know what's happened in between the recording of this episode. Cousin Merle says a Bart's portrayal in the HD area era as a sociopathic talentless loser who is on occasion treated as mentally deficient that was very on and off not having the entire time and being treated so horribly and undeservingly by the writers always annoys me a lot. So I want to get to this is this is a gets to the heart of a lot of people's complaints about the Simpsons.

Bart just isn't as important as he used to be now. Back when I used to watch it Bart wasn't the most important character it used to be. Now, back when I used to watch it, Bart wasn't the most important character in the show. Anyway, that was like for like, wasn't that for like a short amount of time where Bart was like the main character that it turned into Homer, like almost immediately, I think that by the second season it was already kind of Homer and then just sort of the whole, you know, just sort of, but yeah, Bart was meant to be the main character kind of, and then they, they sort of changed course. Yeah. So that that's kind of a weird gripe to have if it is your gripe, you know, like I'm sensing

something in common with all of these posts. And I feel like Simpsons fans are about to do their own gamer gate. Yeah, they are. They're getting Matt Volkang dose. I agree with the I agree with the quote Lisa beating a Bart thing. It's another one of those examples of how out of the loop, the middle aged Simpsons writers are since they think they're not even middle age. I just happen to know median age is 50 on Simpsons writers, I'd say. Yeah.

But I know there are some younger ones, too, who are Simpsons writers just because I know who they are. Do you know what I mean? I happen to know them. So you got all Simpsons writers are since they think that a female beating up a male automatically is funny because quote, what's this a boy being weak and a girl being strong? That's not how it's. Oh, how joyfully subversive.

I don't know. I think you're doing it. I don't wire. It doesn't have to be that maybe that's just a plot point that Lisa can beat him up Maybe it's not going to be done for humorous purposes He finishes this out with something you guys are gonna agree with probably goes, please leave that dead horse to anime writers Honestly at this point a male beating up a female on a comedy is funnier because it's at least a bit offensive and unexpected. That is, it is funny. If I see a, if I'm watching a cartoon and I see, I see a guy just fucking

throttle an older woman or whatever. I will. That's funny. That's funny. Brian, you can agree as somebody who used to, you know, attack women. I've never attacked the woman in my life. I want to be clear just that made it sound bad. That made it sound bad. He didn't hit him and his group of friends would like approach an older like elderly woman and with the groceries or whatever and do a stranger attack on her, play the knockout game. Do that. Number one, I never attacked a woman or I always say an or an old person, but that that's not true. That part is a stretch because you always forget that you did do it to an old person and then you get halfway through the sentence and then you fucking

realize that you've made a huge, it was a guy's dad though. It wasn't like an elderly man. We know, we know, we all know the story. We all know the story of how he beat up an older man. This guy goes snorky says, I said it before, but Schmaltzy endings, particularly before Scully, I can take the occasional Schmaltzy moment somewhere during an episode, but ending episodes like this really annoys me. like this really annoys me. And then he puts in parentheses, give me Homer shooting Marge with a tranquilizer dart any day over a quote, heartwarming ending. See that he does keep coming back to violence against women because that was a classic joke of Homer beating up like not he doesn't like punch Marge. It's like, there's also one where Homer around that same time gives her basically a nerve pinch that knocks her out as well and they were really into knocking out Marge then.

Oh, and there was the oracle too. Yeah, that's, but that's funny. Cause it's a man doing it to a woman. I'm now that's, that's double subversive. Do you understand? You don't understand double subversion. Well, you're going to start to see a little bit of a theme coming here.

Scrooge McDuck says no, that it has a lot to do with Lisa. One, she never gets caught on her bullshit or mistakes. I understand. What? These, these guys are, are these guys are misogynist. They might not like women very much is my guess. I don't know. But specifically a, a child, like she's a child.

I know she's played by adults and written by adults, but that doesn't matter. She's a child and I can't look at a child. If you're going to be posting on a fucking message board about her, you're going to have to pretend she's real and talk about her as her age. You know what I mean? I love she never gets called on her bullshit. That is funny. OK, that's crazy, because on our podcast, we have a we have a jingle for the times that they do multiple episodes every season of Lisa gets

called on her bullshit and everybody it's called take that Lisa's beliefs. They hate her beliefs. So you don't like her. Oh, sorry. No, they're wrong. You're saying? Okay. A little bit.

Well, I mean, if you don't like Lisa, every Lisa episode is about her losing or getting a friend and then losing. Every time she has an episode, It's about getting in second place. They make jokes about that where Lisa can never have a victory because it's more emotional to watch her lose and deal with that. So even if you hate Lisa, like she's a real person, she's constantly losing in the show. Yeah.

He does. Say what's what I wonder what this guy would like to see someone who thinks she's morally right and she should be able to admit she's wrong without the bullshit. I still think I'm right. She's basically a hypocrite close to a narcissist and a R a CC IST. So Narcissus, this is a little bit. This is a little, yeah, this guy is, he's lost it a little bit. Number two, her high opinion of herself over others. For example, her mother. What do you want? Oh, she thinks she's better than I think she is smarter than her mother. Right. Number three, the way she treats Bart quote,

my brother is the scab on society's knee. A very uncalled for comment. The writer should be ashamed of themselves. Has has Lisa apologized? Yeah, honestly, honestly, like that they should, that is he called her. I mean, they think about some of the, I mean, one of the characters strangles one of the other lads. Well, he, he brings out up to, he goes, but, uh, he goes, I totally agree with

the, you know, uh, Lisa winning a fight. He goes, but a boy slash man beating up a woman is politically incorrect, but vice versa is okay. I'm not saying Bart should hit his sister, but for fuck's sake, he takes a punch and goes down. Number five. No, no, honestly, like you don't have to like fucking hit her back, dude, but like fucking stand up for yourself and like you're a fucking man,. It's like he's talking to a fucking cartoon boy. And buddy, you're a fucking man.

He's got spiky yellow hair drawn on. Number five, Lisa, stop whining. Number six, how they turned Kirk into a sad sack. Oh, oh, boy. OK. Oh, my God. It's that's Millhouse's dad. Well, what are they being turned? That's that's he had no character until he was defined as a sad sack. He was just a man who looked like Millhouse. Yeah. He was a bald man. He was like Millhouse

when he's older. Imagine what Millhouse would look like when he's older. Yeah, that's true. It was only when he had the race car bed. That's when he became sort of a well-known character. Yeah. The only one you would learn the name of was when he became a sad divorced man. But I, yeah. The second he said Kirk, I'm like, that's the one like non-family complaint you have is that they're too mean to the divorced sad guy. This guy, do you think this guy posting might maybe, I mean, I think cause he says number seven Homer being selfish. Number eight Homer strangling Bart. Number nine Bart crying, being a wimp and not standing up for himself. A boy, a young boy crying. Yeah, we don't like, um, yeah, no, I, but listen, I have,

I don't talk about it very often. Brian hates it. He's an anti-nade nail natalist. Is that what it's called? No, I have a kid. You have an adult, but I have a seven month old and he's sometimes he'll start crying about something. I'm like, not in this house, pal. This is sorry to say we don't we don't play that game around here. Yeah, it's it's pretty pathetic. If he was a I don't want to sound.

You know, politically incorrect, but if he was a girl, I would have no problem with him crying. That's true. This, so we're going to go to a different thread. This is Springfield's conflicting slash confusing opinions towards the Simpsons family. As someone who's currently dealing with a nightmare neighbor family, I'm finding myself a lot more sympathetic to the rest of Springfield and Flanders especially. So they're like a problem family or sort of seeing

they're seeing them as sort of a problem family. Maggot magnet might shine a little bit of on what this he goes, LOL, this has to be a loaded question because it presupposes that I think the community fluctuates in their opinion of the Simpsons family I actually think the town's opinions of the Simpsons family is generally quite the same I estimate most folks have a neutral and negative opinion about the family while some find them weird or mildly annoying others find the family completely forgettable I think the Van Houten's, Moe, Dr. Hibber,

Reverend Lovejoy, Burns, Smithers, CBG, elementary school staff, Krusty, et cetera. Let's say on a scale of one to 10, one being hate, 10 being love. Most people have the Simpsons at a three to five. So despite some held annoyance, they're civil enough to at least be friends at face value, such as coming over for dinner, inviting them with parties or behaving politely at church. However, as soon as any Simpson family member does a bad thing, the reputation drops to zero and the town arrives at their house screaming and wielding pitchforks. It's like a last straw scenario and the Simpsons are constantly on the penultimate

straw. I mean, I think the town has tried to kill the entire Simpson family at least 15 times. So I think they have a pretty low opinion. I agree. Yeah. I'm just happy that no one is calling for March to be punched or saying Lisa needs to shut up. Don't worry.

There's more of that later on. The family as a whole is under attack, Not just the women. Yeah. Yeah. And lunacy says all you have to do now, he's talking to the person who said they have a nightmare neighbor. He goes, all you have to do now is forget diddley of them neighbor, you know, that's a reference to Ned Flanders. Yeah. Yeah. And then she replies. Go ahead, Henry. Oh, no, no one would disagree that like you'd want to neighbor like Ned. It's a good neighbor. Like, yeah, he's the good guy. Although I don't know. He is like, he's like super religious. You know what I mean? So I don't know. Like I would be a little bit freaked out having like someone who's

like so religious, but he is, you're right. He's just nice. He's kind. He's like, yeah, he's not going to have a party or anything. He's not going to be disruptive. He's a pretty ideal neighbor. Having been the Simpsons of my apartment building. Well, I lived in this apartment and the next door neighbor was always mad that we were being loud. Well, that doesn't make you the sense you're having. Yeah, I am. There's all the time and a new job every week and so wait guys always calling the cops on me.

What what on calling the cops how loud? So what what era was this like? How old were you? When Glenn was in like first or second grade. So how what job are you working at? Uh, this is, this is actually after job. This is like college. I was doing the college thing after job after job. Yeah. Okay. This is all after job. Well, era like, okay. Okay. So I, I would play loud music, but during the day and the lady would

pound on a wall. And then one time I just punched a hole in the wall on their side of the room. I was so mad at her. You were mad at her. Yeah. I was listening to a master P really loud. Oh, middle of the day. Christ, man. So like real heavy bass, like dude, that you're a fucking asshole. Like I would be pounding on the wall. I would come over to your house and tell you just turn your fucking music during the day. Yeah. During the fucking day. Just cause it's during the day doesn't mean you can fucking pound music as loud as you want. Like it's a fucking rock concert. Jesus. I don't know if I heard that building man. You're you have neighbors. You gotta be a little bit. People are fucking

some old ladies sitting at home trying to relax. These were young people and they were always being mad at us all the time. I'm going to have to I know you and I know your tendencies and I going to have to side with the people on the other side of the wall. And then you punched a hole in the wall. Not through their side though. Just on my side. There was a hole. So strike the person with the bad neighbors goes last night. Just on my side, there was a hole. So strike the person with the bad neighbors goes last night. They woke me up at 3 a.m. Diddley diddley diddley and then 4 a.m. Italy Italy diddley. And then at 7 a.m. in the week where I have an insane level of work to get through, which is going to require a decent

amount of focus. Oh hell, diddley ding dong crap. That's so you can see he's kind of like short circuiting. He's trying to keep the diddlies and the, you know, the good naturedness going. Yeah. Hey, hey, let's say anyone on the pot ever have any, you guys ever have a nasty neighbor situation? Yeah. Yeah. No, I'm asking them a question, Brian.

No, I'm asking really, uh, I do want to hear more about what's going on with these neighbors because if it was truly living next to the Simpsons, the noise would be coming from hilarious schemes like beer in the basement or, you know, make guarding a sugar pile, something fun. Homer would be something they call the police because they thought I was doing a growing weed operation. You were, I bet. I bet I wasn't. I actually wasn't. I was cooking weed and the whole place smelled like, yeah, that makes sense. Like it does make us strong when you like make weed butter or whatever. Yeah.

Well, I was making what are called fire crackers, which is what I ate for several years. Um, what is it? So you get a Nutella and you get townhouse crackers and you put the Nutella on one and you put the weed in there and then you make a sandwich. Then you bake it at like 350. It decarves the weed and all that stuff. The problem was sometimes they were very strong. Like you wouldn't, you wouldn't measure them out super well. Didn't have any idea how to do that. It would just put as much Keith as I had in it. and then I would have a meltdown.

Several times I had meltdowns. One time I had this crazy meltdown where I went up in my bedroom. I had to get away from my wife and kid for a minute. Oh fuck, I forgot that you're not like a child or a teenager here. You're a fucking adult with a family when you're... I forgot. Like in my head, I'm like, of course you're cooking what you're a fucking adult with a family when you're forgotten, like in my head, I'm like, of course, you're cooking what you're doing, like not even cooking weed, you're doing it in

this like, it's like back alley kind of way, you know what I mean? Like a prison method of cooking your weed, basically. So, yeah, I do this thing, I eat this one, and I'm sitting there watching TV with with Katie and Gwen. And like, an hour in, I eat this one and I'm sitting there watching TV with with Katie and Gwen and like an hour in I just am in a different world. Like I am I am freaking out. I can't hear how old was Gwen? Probably like three. Thank goodness Katie's there and responsible right? Like do you know what I'm saying? Like

thank goodness because you're just like you're literally just told me you're in a different world and you have a toddler there that you're taking care of. All right. So I was trying to calm down. I was trying to get calm down. So I went up in my bedroom and I took my shirt off and I paced in front of the TV and my jeans with a NPR with a what's it called? A PBS on the screen because I couldn't handle any other stimulus that was higher than PBS and I got past it. You know, when I got past it and I lived and everything ended up good. This here's a question for everybody. Okay.

Cletus and Brandine is the weirdest relationship in the show because you know those two hillbilly characters. I feel like Cletus Spuckler and Brandeen's relationship kind of makes me uncomfortable. Am I the only one that thinks that? I mean, they're technically related and our brother and sister. I mean, I understand how he could be attracted to his sister. Listen, we've all been there, he says. This guy's like, listen, we just know you're not allowed to. He wants to hear that it's not weird. Yeah, yeah, that's what he's looking for. He's looking for people to be like, it's not weird at all, man.

Like, I actually think this is very cool, and I think people who act this way are very cool. He goes, I mean, I understand how he could be attracted to his sister, but the creepy fact about it is that he had 60 children with her. Yeah. I don't get why they make clean. You can't, you can't forget about that because memory names all the kids. And so he had to have sex with her a number of times. He, well, it's also his mother as well. Like it's a sister and his mother based on,

on jokes. That's, that's something in, in recent season Simpsons, they, they wrote like a, well, not a serious, but like an introspective episode about Brandine and the life choices she's had. And she's like, she's deeper than you think. And I, I, it was not a bad episode, but I kept thinking the whole episode, are you going to address the cheese Cletus's mother and sister when they're dating in the past? Here. It's, and then the guy goes, I don't get why they make Cletus and Brandeen related. Is it a stereotype about hillbillies?

Yeah, it is. I may have said some of it first. First he says, I get it. You're attracted to your sister. And then he's like, is that some kind of thing about hillbillies actually, or do incest? I don't know. Uh, oh, and let's not forget the Kirk and Louann are technically cousins

too, according to an episode. No wonder why mill houses such a weird kid. Yeah. And yeah, our Bob has a good theory about this actually. What theory about they're related? The Kirk and Louann the the Shelbyville theory. Oh, oh, well, that's his attractive cousin, right? That was a something that was I think retconned because they were

designed to look like each other. And then we find that that she is from Shelbyville. Right. Later. Yes. That's probably, maybe that's why the No Homers Club is saying they're related to. But there's your canonicity of them potentially being related. Well, Bart and Lisa are awesome says, they are odd.

And then Jackamon Simpson goes, no, you're not the only one. It's a pretty weird relationship, honestly. Yeah. They're like, I mean, you're not the only one. It's a pretty weird relationship, honestly. Yeah, no, I mean, you're not the only one who thinks that this person who's married to his sister who's also his mother and had 60 children with her, that that's a little bit odd. Yeah, and then Strike goes, yep, it's a curiously mean depiction of a stereotype

for the Simpsons, which is usually more playful and a softer touch than shows like South park and family guy. I get the occasional nicer more sympathetic moment with them. Uh, but generally it's just laugh at the dumb incestuous pig blinking poor people who have too many babies. That's I hate it when people listen all of those things pig boy. I hate it. Cause this is just, they threw poor people in there to make you, Oh, I guess I can't argue against that. You know what I mean? I guess I can't say that, you know, these hillbillies are, are weird because it does have sex with pigs. It's true. Yeah. Yeah. Well, Jack, I'm on Simpson says, I won't lie. I feel like the Simpsons depiction of hillbillies are very accurate somehow. Although I'm saying that as someone who doesn't know much about hillbilly culture or hillbillies

in general and just assumes negative stuff about them. Oh, okay. Well, they didn't do the research the Simpsons writers did to create Cletus, a very deep rich character. Yeah, essentially, it's just all the hee-haw jokes put into one person. Yes. Yeah. I mean, that person is right. It is, it is a really, it is kind of a mean sort of depiction of a stereotype because they are just sort of hammering it super hard and it's mostly negative stereotype stuff. but I don't think most people that would be considered hill bellies or rednecks are really hurt by that depiction.

Like I I'm probably on this show, the closest to a redneck and it doesn't, no, you think so. You think you're, you think I might be closer than the three of you to being. I mean, I was born in Arkansas. I'm kind of close. I have read that family. Yeah, but you for whatever reason, I just don't get that from you at all.

Well, I've worked very hard to be. Yeah. Yeah. You I mean, from Brian, I definitely get it. I get it. The way he acts and stuff like that. And some of the stuff that he does and the way that he like talks and acts and the things that he does and the way that he like

talks and acts and the things that he's done. Which adult female character do you have the hots for? Oh Marge. And here's our list of characters first and then we'll have the results of this poll too. This is a poll so we'll be able to give you guys the results if you're curious. Marjorie Simpson, Luanne Van Houten, Kumiko Albertson. I don't know who's that? Who's that? They mentioned her a lot. That's comic book guys Japanese wife. Oh, yeah.

Comic book guys been married for years now. Nice. To an Alba Booyay. And to a Japanese wife but like, okay, that's interesting. That's an interesting little plot point. That what's the like, where did they meet? I'm in. Oh, it's a crummy episode.

Honestly, it's a cheap. She's like a photographer who comes to America to photograph fat Americans. And then she just falls in love with him for poorly explained reasons. Gotcha. Okay. I like it. Ima Bouvier. Who's Selma but not Patty? Patty. Patty's here. Bernice Hibbert. Helen Lovejoy. Ruth Powers. Mindy

Simmons or other. The big winner here is going to be Marjorie Simpson. Marjorie Simpson. I mean, she's the star as far as that was, you know what I mean? She's like, you just can't help it. Even if she's not the most physically attractive, maybe it's. Yeah, well, she's not. We can agree it's obviously Helen Lovejoy. She's obviously the most banging. But but just as far as like intrigue, it would be like, I got it. You got to try to, you know, get in bed with Marge.

I think we all agree on that. Number two is, wait, wait, wait got it. You got to try to, you know, get in bed with March. I think we all agree on that. Number two is, wait, wait, wait, wait, we should see Brian. Who would you who would you think? Who do you want? I'm not going to fuck a Simpson. Okay. So don't play the game at all. That's really fun for a podcast. How about you, Henry? Who would you want to have sex? I mean, of the women out here is as a gay guy, I guess. Oh, well, I didn't. I that's not fair. No, hang on. Which male Simpsons character would you like to? That's that's first. I will answer on this one to the women. I'm going with Louanne because I think she's she's probably got some skills. But but on the gate on the guy side to just have to pick one Willie Billy, I guess

Willie Willie. No, what? Well, he's handsome. Keep her Willie and grasskeeper Willie's got a good body. He is very, very, very shallow though that I'm going with the guy with the biggest spot. I like though what man's really hanging dong though, if I'm going on just pure size queen who is who's who's hanging Miflanders this is another oh, yeah, of course and Flanders is Flanders is good-looking dude as well He's a handsome older man. I think it is just like 14 inches like that's what the hell Canonical this guy is stacked up 14. Holy I'm like well. He's like one less than me Bob Bob who would you want to have sex with?

Character. It's going to be Marge. If only I can whisper in her ear, make sure Bart hits Lisa more. Let it out. Oh, yeah, yeah, you got to ask. And then number two, I'll give you a quick second place, Mindy Simmons. Who's Mindy Simmons?

I do not know. Fourth's a one off character Homer is going to cheat on Marge with, but does it? Oh, I read about her. Is that the one? Is that the singer? No, that's a different character. That's like old, old, old Lurlene Lumpkin. Yeah. Cause if she was on the list, who I would add to think twice. Oh, yeah, she's hot. She I actually Mindy Simmons is who I would. Oh, so you look like can you show us Mindy Simmons, please? Nice titties. What the fuck? She's undeniable fact.

I mean, yeah, I agree. Oh, I remember at work at work is coworker, right? Yes. Yes, I do. I do remember. I remember Mindy. work his coworker, right? Yes. Yes, I do. I do remember I remember Mindy she was she was beautiful and then she had Michelle Pfeiffer's voice, of course And yeah, she was very very hot. Bloody Simpsons Chibi says Sophie's mother to be honest Booberella also counts because let's face it. I like spooky stuff That's just Elvira. Yeah. Yeah, saying, let's face it before saying I like spooky stuff.

I love that. Like just framing it up like, hey, let's face it. I like spooky stuff. No one. I have the hots for Linda Belcher though. Not playing the game. Linda Belcher. Linda Belcher is well speaking of voices, Linda Belcher is not voiced by a woman at

all. Linda Belcher is voiced by a man actually. But Linda Belcher is, I don't think she's sexy at all though. She's not like, you know, I like her as a character, but I would, no, I would never, obviously Lois. No, I mean, hey, if we're bringing in Seth MacFarlane shows that American dad, uh, the, the mom on that she's Francine, Francine, Francine's beautiful. And I also like Francine's like just sort of like a wild child. Like she's just, I really have a lot of time for Francine. You know, I, uh, no, I, I do love America dad. It's my favorite show of Seth MacFarland's.

I've said that many times. Strike says mine's the Orville strike says I've actually never seen the Orville, but it's just funny to say strikes as I'd have said none before last week, as I don't find the style of the Simpsons really lends itself to women. I find to be attractive. But yellow, this is is this is insane. He's just like he was sure he would never get horny for the Simpsons. Like he's been watching for so long. He's like I would this will never happen. And then fucking I'm so excited to hear what yeah. Yeah. However, the Simpsons history

on Lindsay Nagel has reminded me that she's had some moments of being a lady who very much knows what she wants. And I can very much dig that. What is what who's Lindsay Nagel? I have no clue. She's the stand in executive character dating back to the mid 90s in the show. So she's been around for a while. But this this guy wants to be bossed around. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, he was he was watching some sort of compilation of her. They call it compilations. Jesus.

Oh, yes. Oh, I don't I don't know. I mean, I know this character, but she's she's not like a main. Like she's she'll rarely have a big. I wonder if he's sorry, Bob. I think at this time, this period the show, but she's like on the same level as I don't know, Doctor Hibbert or not. Not so much Moe, but she's like C tier I think. Yeah, well, let's go to the subreddit.

We haven't been there yet. Oh boy. R slash Simpsons and the question is asked., um, the question is asked, why is March still with Homer? Why is she with me? This is what the guy's really wondering. Why is it with me? I can, why Homer he's fat. He's bald. These are the guys. I got a fucking good amount of hair. You know, I'm in good shape. Like I could treat her. I could show her what a real man's like is I would show her true love of true affection, true appreciation. I would I would fucking worship her like the queen that she is.

Well, snooze snooze snooze snooze says you saw what happened when she tried dating in the episode where she lost her memory. Season 17, episode 20, regarding Margie? So you guys have seen this one, I'm guessing, right? It's been a very long time. We're only on season 15 now in our timeline. I see, okay. I vaguely recall that she starts dating,

she couldn't love Homer and ends up with like a Marine biologist type dude, I think it was. And then she remembers why she likes taking care of Homer, I believe is how it ends up. Yeah. Oh, I see. That's okay. So that's not really that great. Then it's not like she doesn't remember like how, how he lives her of it.

One of the best Simpsons endings is the, the, the one of the marriage class sees, where Marge realizes Homer can only offer her complete and utter dependence. And she accepts that they are a codependent relationship and she doesn't want him to die without it. Mega Ben does say for the most part, because for the most part, because all men except Flanders are terrible in Springfield. All men are terrible in Springfield.

Not Flanders. Dr. Hibbert. What is it? What does Dr. Hibbert do wrong? Nothing. He's a doctor. He's offered to sell babies at certain point. Oh, that's kind of wrong.

You know what I mean? It's like he's part of the like core group of Springfield Republicans too. That's kind of wrong. You know what I mean? It's like over the course of the core group of Springfield Republicans too. That's true. He's a Republican and all of a sudden now he's just a bad guy just because he's a Republican, Bob. Okay. I didn't write the meeting in Dracula's castle in 1995.

This next guy goes status quo is a powerful drug. What does that mean? But first of all, it's hell of a drug. Yeah, wait, that's getting it wrong. Anyway, the Chappelle show sketch thing. Yeah. Yeah. What is it?

What does that mean in reference to? Well, then she's the status quo. Homer's the status quo. Like nothing has to change, you know. Oh, I see. They, they can't divorce. Yeah. That wouldn't happen. Well, didn't, didn't like default name says, I would imagine a lot of it's the kids also some sync costs, fallacy, cognitive dissonance thrown in there. And frankly, it's obnoxious and downright terrible as Homer can be. There

just is not one person more interesting in the Springfield verse. So she thinks, yeah, it's the sunk cost fallacy. But she, how, how large is the city of Springfield? How many residents are there meant to be? Well, they're horrible no matter what. No, but like how many, is it like a city? Is it like a town? Is it like, how many does she have to choose from? Do you know what I mean? Are there new people moving in regularly? Is it really like a small enough town where it's just like because that is a thing in small towns, right? You're just like hey, okay

I guess I'll fucking stay married to you because there's only like Ben and Darien are the only other guys and they're fucking I'm not gonna go out with them So do you guys know the the amount of people it? It changes based on whatever story they want to tell. It could be a Manhattan-sized city or a small town. Are you saying this is some sort of cartoon where they just play with reality and change it around or whatever? The rules are a little loose on the Simpsons. They're a little askew.

I don't like that. I want to know what's happening in the house when they're not filming it. There needs to be a consistent census of Springfield that starts every episode. Yeah, I want to know, like just the basic statistics of the town. Yeah, it should say that at the start. Maybe just show the sign. This feels like the South Park episode we did where people wanted to know where Kyle lives in relation to other characters. And yeah, well, yeah, well, this gets a little weird.

And you were so you were the one who was on that episode. I think it was me. Henry was there. OK, yeah, this guy goes, Homer must be a demon in the sack. And then he gets a reply where a guy goes, remember when he took Viagra shop for Mr. Burns and carried Marge to bed and just plowed her, she was like, Oh, homie. I mean, how do we get into this? I guess I do remember that, but how do we get into it? Just talking about how, why are they married? Why don't they divorce? He, he fucks good. They're saying that joke is

dependent on Homer is normally not good at fucking until he gets the shot from that, from the burn shot. Yeah. The guy says he really is a demon in the sack. Have you seen any other sex scenes? Homer shakes the house. What? No sex scenes.

Only when I want a potion or Viagra. Yeah. Yeah. I will say that I did. I did consider doing what I do with a lot of these episodes and read some erotic fan fiction. But a lot of them involved like Bart or Lisa. And I just felt weird about reading that. You think you think it's weird to have the sort of fantasy about having sex with Bart? You think it would be weird for a radio host to

radio show Greaseman alert anyone who hasn't listened to this year's Shocktober? Greaseman did an audio routine in the 90s where he he's basically I mean he's having sex with Bart Simpson in it right Brian is that yeah yeah yeah I still have it if if anybody's interested in hearing it it's very disturbing it's very disturbing. It's very disturbing. It's genuinely disturbed. If we run out of episodes to cover, you're going to be hearing us doing things like that. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I was, and then I did read a really good one that I should have. I should have put a link to. I wish I would have where, uh, Homer needs some money, uh, because he did some silly thing that he did and he doesn't want March to find out. So he goes to Marge's sisters to borrow the money and then they do kind

of like a, you know, BDSM thing with them for to get the money. So they put a butt plug in him and say he's not allowed to take it out. They put one of those chastity cages on his penis so that he can't, he has to explain. They put one of those chastity cages on his penis so that he can't, he has to explain. Yeah, it's a lot. It was a lot. This is not a vanilla one here. This has a lot of specific markers on it. This is not just vanilla. It was very crazy. The next question- Sorry, Homer said he uses Viagra or potions or whatever and sort of you guys are inferring that that means he's not good at making love I just want to say some people They have to use some sort of assistance whether it be

Injection or pumps or the ams-700 and it doesn't mean they're bad at sex They could actually still be amazing at sex and that could be the reason why they need those because they did it so many times That it stopped working in the normal way. I just want to put that out there. They could burn through 20 condoms in four hours. And when you're doing it like that, it's like, yeah, most people who are using Viagra or something is because they're not good at it, but some people, there are a few of them who are using it because they got too good at it. Hey look, and if you want to find out about this, it's twitch.tv slash murderexperience.

You don't even have to pay for it. Yeah, you don't have to pay for it. It's on the Patreon. We put the, you know, VODs up there on the Patreon, but you can just go to Twitch. Great story, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This guy goes to show frames that is true love,

but there are alternative reasons. Pride, the bouillais have always believed Homer to be a poor choice for Marge. A divorce means she has to admit her mom and sisters were right. And then financial clusterfuck. Separating the finances would be very messy. The biggest asset is the house, but it carries a lot of debt and that it has the issue of Abe's 15K. Homer would destroy the house in a few weeks without Marge there. Marge would be- Oh, we've been saying that with a deer was in there and the school thing swung open and there

was a deer. This is early Simpsons episode. Marge went away. Marge would need to ask her family for help to keep the house. Well, it depends on what the child support situation is like and how much alimony she's going to get. We need to break down. I mean, how long it-

What kind of laws do they have? And what kind of home... Well, we've got to find out which state it's in first, right guys? I mean, that's Ohio. What? It's Ohio. It's Ohio. Yeah. Oh, I choose to believe that. There's some who think Massachusetts, but I... Well, okay. Well, here, if we really... I think it's Illinois. I think I figured out a way to, on that, uh, the child support thing, just view it as how it works with Kirk van Houdin because he's Homer. He's like if Homer got divorced and in an episode, uh, Kirk van Houdin is looking to get, he is being paid alimony payments by Luanne, not the, like instead of the other way around. So that's funny.

He's so sad that he's got to get the alimony, but Homer is the breadwinner here. I mean, Marge is a, is a, is a, you know, stay at home mother, right? She has no income of her own. So she would be dependent on Homer and you know, you hope it's not going to be a messy situation cut custody. What are we talking about? Cause I'd like to see the case laid out in me. And I mean, and not like a funny version of it. I mean, like, yeah, like a Kramer versus Kramer situation.

Like a Tim Heidecker, Tim Heidecker trial, like the trial of Tim Heidecker style, where it's like, you know, done in a very, very serious way. And it's very long. Let's mix two guys together here. Rotten Tomatoes, the review of the Simpsons movies we're going to look at. So it's Rotten Tomatoes guys and Simpsons guys. What did you all think of the Simpsons movie? Oh, we talked about it on now three podcasts. And I don't know. I mean, I I was a Simpsons guy in my youth posting on the Homer's Club.

I really hated it and now I just think I wish it was better. Just like a B minus C movie, but not bad. I loved it. I loved it. I loved it. The only reason being is because I loved The Simpsons so much when it came out, I feel like. It came out in the theaters. And I was like, so so I was still when when did the movie come out? It doesn't have it.

See, I was still into it. See, I'm not wrong. I was still into it. I stayed into it. I stayed. I thought you were wrong, though. We had told you you were wrong. Yeah. So I stayed into it. So I was really excited. And the fact that I got to go to the movie theaters and watch the Simpsons on the movie theaters screen, it was just so exciting. I that I got to go to the movie theaters and watch the Simpsons on the movie theaters screen.

It was just so exciting. I don't remember what happened in the film. I don't remember it all. Well it, let's give the scores first. Uh, 87% on the tomato, tomato, WAM meter. I can't still tomato, tomato, tomato monitor, tomato, tomato meter. Okay. Yeah. And then our popcorn meter, which is what they call the audience. They changed it. I honestly think they changed

it because they're not even allowed to call it legally the audience score anymore because they're fucking, they found a way to circumvent the whole thing. It's one of my big conspiracies. And I think that the SEC or whoever regulates that stuff said, you can't even call it the audience score anymore because it's so it's such a perverted system now. And so now they have to say pop. It's AI. It's it's yeah. So anyway, 87% and 77%. The first one is a four star review. And it's from 2024. And the guy just goes a movie who is simply a adventure of cartoons. Agree. Agree.

Yeah. You can't argue with that. Dane says The Simpsons, five stars. The Simpsons movie is amazing due to its lovable characters, incredible story, and all the comedy that comes with it. Okay, so. Sure. These are very cool.

People are very interesting these days. These new brands. Yeah. Sorry, different AI models are just describing the movie. Yeah, most definitely. And this is what has happened. I'm telling you, these movie that's the companies, they've figured out how to game the system.

So now every fucking movie you see has like a 98% audience score. They've just fucking gamed it completely with these AI fucking bots. I do wonder this one, this next one, we're going to have to probably judge whether it's AI or not. Jeffrey gave it four stars and he said the Simpsons movie was an amazing movie. It was worse than the show, but it had really good messages. The Simpsons movie was an amazing movie. It was worse than the show, but it had really good messages. The Simpsons movie was a really funny movie, and guess what, I love comedy.

Also, the Simpsons movie is really interesting. I've only watched The Simpsons season one through four. I'm still on the fourth season, and this movie has more idea than the seasons I watched in the show, but the seasons I watched are funnier than the movie, though. My favorite Simpsons season so far far season four. What a good movie. I give it a 76% gave his own percent that's

We love that when they don't use you like I reject your scoring system, and I'll be giving it my own scoring system Yeah, don't you think we should But then it's all you think. Yeah. Don't you think we should be able? That's how you should. The audience score should be that right. It's a percentage, you're saying of 100. Yeah, I know. Not just skits consumer too confusing to a normal person.

Just give them five. I say three. We go on. That's true. We're going to start a system where one one is bad. is like pretty good, and three is really good. That's it. That's it. That's all. That's all people can handle, in our opinion. Man, the person has not watched past season four.

I give it a chance. I don't know if this is a person. We don't know that for sure because some of these AIs, it did sound like AI, then it went back to sounding like a person, but it was really unfocused. It was worse than the show was the part that was incredibly confusing to me. The way he says, yeah, Tyler says Tyler says four and a half stars. Amazing. But there are better movies.

That's true. Enough. That's true. You guys you've you guys seen like Hey, they live I've a shirt on that's a good movie. What else? Shawshank redemption. I used to watch a lot never seen it You know what a movie I used to really like when I was a little kid? It was called Field of Dreams. No, not Field of Dreams. It was called a perfect, now what was it called? It was with Kevin Costner. Perfect World.

Perfect World. Yeah, Perfect World with Kevin Costner. I think it's about him abducting a kid or something. I don't know why as a kid I would like that film, but I watched it over and over again. You know, you want to take you on the road. That's I get like, he seems like a nice guy and, and also crazy. So who knows? Derek L says whilst the plot for Simpsons, the movie remains almost as ridiculous and comedic as it's TV shows series counterpart, it's still somehow works. That's a three star review.

And then finally four stars. I like how Maggie Simpson's doing big things to save her family, even though she's a little baby. That can't be denied. She does. She's pulled off so many incredible things a baby couldn't do. And she says doing things. Yeah, she is doing big things. So the final thing we're going to go to is Quora, the website Quora, which we love. And the question that's being answered is why is the Simpsons becoming so woke? I feel like the whole purpose of adult animated shows is to be as raunchy and absurd as possible.

So what gives? Wait, okay. Correct me if I'm wrong. Well, to the Simpsons guys here, Bob, was it ever a raunchy show? I think it was considered, you know, anti-family, anti-family values by being center, center left. Yeah. In HW Bush's America saying, eat my shorts or I'm Bart Simpson. Who the hell are you? Like that was sure as seen as, you know, I guess more raunchy, but this, I mean, by 19, you know, the Beavis and Butthead comes so soon after the peak of the Simpsons. Like

that is so much raunchier than what you'd call the sit. Like what a word I'd attached to the Simpsons. Well, and then what year did two girls, one cop come along? Cause after that happened, it was like, you can't just be throwing that word around anymore to describe the cartoons. You know, that was in the nineties or the 2000s mid 2000s. I'll trust you on it, Brian. It was during my opium Anthony days.

They were watching it all the time. Remember? Did you watch it? Did I watch it? Yeah. Somebody told me the theory that I heard about it was that, uh, so this is what somebody told me. I don't know this for sure.

Uh-oh. That the women put putting up their ass. was that, uh, so this is what somebody told me. I don't know this for sure. The women put pudding up their ass. So it's not even shit that they're eating. Yeah. Believe in nothing. No more. Yeah. If I found that out, that would fucking destroy me. If I, if I found out that the fucking shit stuff that I thought was shit and two girls, one cup was actually chocolate pudding that would destroy my world. I'm not somebody did that. That was something somebody told me and I, I tended to believe it then after a while it was just kind of like nobody eats turd. Well, except for that one guy I saw

you. I mean guys, nobody else eats turd. People do. I'm afraid to say Brian, you know what I mean? Like when most people not, I am thankful thatds. People do. I'm afraid to say Brian, you know what I mean? Like when most people not, I am thankful that when that became popular, I had stopped hanging out with my edgiest friends who made me watch things on the internet with them. I didn't, I saw similar things that I was made to watch on style project by friends, but yes, style project. God damn it. I remember style project. I was just, I never watched Two Girls, One Cup. I still continue to hang out with really awful, awful guys and stuff, but they never managed to trick me to get me in, because I just wouldn't. I knew I'd

be sick from it. The ones we watched a lot more than Two Girls, One Cup. Don't say from it. The ones we want the one we watched a lot more than two girls Won't say it don't say it. Are you gonna say the one? Not that one. No, not the one where the guy ate the turd. No, no, no, no, no But there's there's a one that I have to take my headphones off if he starts got a little bit on his teeth Yeah, that's not even it. Okay The one I watched Was we watched all the time was like, I think it's like a, like

part farting porn. And it was just ladies farting in each other's mouths. And we thought that was the funniest thing anybody's ever seen. Like, cause it looked like real porno. It looked like they were really getting down to it, but it was more farting. But you know why or no, why? Because it was, it was real porno because there are people who jack off to that. So it was the consult a porno expert that I know. Now, I mean, was there hair being blown back or was this added in post? Were these farts real? I don't know.

I don't know if they were real farts because I know there are guys and women that can suck farts in and then fart it out. Like that they can still a real heart. That's still a real fart. It's different though. It's not as it's not like, um, that's still a real fart. What's the word? It's from your own like used by your body. It can't just be air put into that. It's like, you know, but you're doing fart porn. You have to you're going to have to manufacture a little bit more action back there. You know what I mean? That's fair.

I think wait until a fart's coming. I mean, people fart like five times. Well, you're going to have the whole crew waiting around all day for it. Like that's right. Yeah, right. And you fart five times every hour. Maybe is that an abnormal amount of fun? Yeah. You should regularly farting. In my opinion, I don't like maybe I'm wrong about that,

but I wouldn't say that I wouldn't say that I fart five times in an hour. It depends if I if I ate something that makes me do that, but I wouldn't say that that's like a consistent thing for me. I think I go something that like makes me do that, but I wouldn't say that that's like a consistent thing for me. I think I go many hours without farting. So I'll be too. Yeah, he's lying. You guys should see his face.

What? So here's our first answer from Edwin. Sorry. Well, we were talking about the porno and then farting. It just this show sometimes gets to gross places. I don't even know. It's Chris. Usually he's brings up the poop and the farts and the say, I don't even respond to it because everybody knows, you know, how preposterous that is. Well, this guy is the lead washer at us. Lenin, Lenin, like he, I guess washes

towels. Um, it's owned by Disney now, like everything owned by Disney. It's all super woke now. Look at Star Wars. Look at Marvel. Now look at the Simpsons. Oh, excuse me. Look at Marvel. How about look at a certain Ryan Reynolds who's actually fixing that problem with Deadpool

being anti woke. Sorry. Why am I quoting Mike Zero? I got to tell you Mike Zero zeros latest few posts are so funny What is he talking about now Mike? I was a guy who's all over Disney stuff he makes his YouTube videos and he just makes up he lies about stuff. He says it's true, but it's not It's all I'm gonna read you guys just a few Jimmy Kimmel says the worst thing in years. This is embarrassing few. Jimmy Kimmel says the worst thing in years. This is embarrassing. Robert De Niro says the worst thing in decades

with instant regret. Oh, fuck. What? Robert De Niro fired by studio after the worst comments go viral. Oh my god, Robert De Niro has been fired by the studio like as if that's some you know what I mean? Like, oh fuck, what's he going to do? He's his career will never recover. Like 82 year old Oscar winner going to do that. They made him clean out his desk. He was walking home with a banker's box.

He's like fucking, he, he, it was like kind of a rainy day and he was walking too close to the sidewalk and a bus came by and like sprayed a bunch of water from a pot a lot to him. George Clooney says the worst thing in history. This is a disgrace. Okay. So it's Jimmy Kimmel worst thing yet. Then above that is worst thing like yet for, and then worst thing in history that is, they're just, they just keep, they keep outdoing themselves with these things. You know what I mean? They're crazy. because there's another one here from three days ago. Jimmy Kimmel mental breakdown after losing millions of dollars now.

Oh, fuck. He's probably in trouble financially. I'm guessing. Oh fuck. Okay. We will look into the Goldberg yells at Disney with instant regret. This is embarrassing. Okay, let's Brian.

Let's give It's official. Right. We just lost billions of dollars. Right, and let's get back to the thing. Anyway, once Disney bastardizes something, it's never the same. Disney was racist. Now it's repulsively woke.

That's interesting that the person takes the stance that Disney was racist at one time, which that's a woke stance to take Isn't it? Oh, he you know, no he was happy when it was raised. Oh He thought it was good That's been meant in a positive way. Okay Alan says, uh, he's a former handyman weird thing to call yourself He goes, I don't know. That's the trend. All the episodes end

up being about Lisa and her ever more aggressive and humorless activism. There's always, there's literally an activist lease episode every season of the show since the beginning, or if not activists, it's her against the system. Like it's always, I know I'm, I'm, I'm shouting into the void. This is meaningless. I know that I know, but this is, that is, this is incorrect about Lisa. Yeah. And she's made to suffer.

Everyone hates her and she doesn't win. So if you hate Lisa, you're going to love Lisa episodes. You guys are going to love these, these last three here. First of all, Zach just says, yeah, Disney ruins everything. Screw seasons 31 and up. I'll just stick to rewatching every season before the Disney era. We're going to watch them on Disney. So it doesn't even fucking matter.

Disney doesn't give a shit where you watch. So 20 through 30 great seasons to this guy. That everything the last five years, that's the bad Simpsons. Wow. This guy is only going to only gets to watch 30 seasons of it. He's making a sacrifice for his principles. You know what I mean? It's like you got we're all sitting here like, you know, we're not doing shit. This guy's like, I'm only going to watch fucking.

I'm I'm only going to watch six hundred and eighty of these episodes or maybe more, seven hundred and ten of these episodes or maybe more 710 of these episodes. That sounds right. Raymond says I grew up on the Simpsons and not only are they so annoyingly woke these days. Here we go. This is one I know is funny. Not only are they so annoyingly woke these days, but what's with all that musical crap that actually plays into the whole woke crap I guess no doubt new extreme feminist and simp writers driving through their own personal narratives sigh wasn't one of the most famous episodes a musical

episode about a monorail oh yeah monorail episode yeah before the 90s ended there were two complete soundtracks based on full of songs from the show. Yeah, there was a lot of music through the show, even when I watched it, definitely. But why is that part of woke as well? I think musicals are well, are inherently woke. Oh, it's gay. I think they're saying I forgot that I forgot. That's what they're saying is that it's gay and then if it then gay is woke. I mean, yeah, it's not even like they're Hamilton musicals. But again, it's like I, you know, we mentioned the Simpsons movie. I remember this was another

smart one Bob known as first was that the Simpsons movie for all the Simpsons predicted it the Simpsons movie predicted that Hillary would win in 2007. Like that she did. She did. She did. It's a popular vote. And she wrong year, Chris. Sorry, I just met Obama. Everybody knows. Everybody knows that. I mean, we don't talk about a lot because we don't talk politics on here, but Chris is big. I'm still with her. I'm still with her. I'm still with her. Yeah. He's a big I'm still with her Yeah, he's a big Democratic donor I live in Canada. I donate illegally to the American Democratic Party. Yes. He loves them last one last message This is from so now

SONAL and he says notice how the Simpsons wokeness was racist They cut a poo from the show because he's Indian. Never mind that real Indians love him and don't find him offensive at all. Indians don't care if he's voiced by a white American actor. They don't mind him working at the Quickie Mart. Appu was a real character, not a racial caricature, unlike characters like groundskeeper Willie and Luigi Risotto. Since The Simpsons makes fun of everything and everything.

What wrong with the show making fun of Indians? Wait a second. I don't I wouldn't say that Luigi risotto is a caricature. Listen, Italians love it though. Yeah, that's like they love it when guys like oh mama mia I'm sure you can find a lot of you know Indian people and Indian American people who don't care But there's probably people who do care about it. I think it's just like a general I don't know. I'm not smart, but it's just like a general idea of like it's probably good We have plenty of actors of all different backgrounds now

It's just you know give opportunities to have them voiced accurately by the people who I think that's generally a good thing to do. But yeah, also they didn't get rid of him because he was Indian, right? No, they got rid of him because he was voiced by a white guy, right? Yeah, Hank Azaria, right? But why didn't they just have him voiced by... Did they get rid of him? Is that true or did they just have him voiced by someone else? I think he's mostly gone from the show. There was no ex, a poo leaving the show kind of episode. They just realized, well, this is a relic of when the show was created and it's uncomfortable to look at him and talk about him. We're not going to recast him. He's just going to

go away forever. And you'll see him walking around silently in the background at times, but I think it's been a long time since he spoke. I think they see it's just a third rail. They don't want to touch anymore. They ran past many characters, but I think without poo they're like, but I'm shocked it took this long in the stuff you found pride to see somebody complaining about up who being not in the show anymore. I knew that was going to happen because I know about the movie, which I didn't see.

But I do know about the movie. I did go to a party that W. Kamau Bell was at. Do you mean do you mean the movie like the poo movie? Yeah, the one by W. Kamau Bell, right? No. Well, he produced it. He produced it. But what's his name? Ari, the other blue guy. Well, he produced it. He produced it, but it's, um, what's his name? I don't know.

Yeah. The comedian. It could sound. Okay. I made a fucking, we made an ass out of ourself at some party. Cause there was an open bar for the nib. Do you guys remember the nib? Oh yeah. No, it was a cartoon website and it was launching in 2016. And when we were in, when we were in, uh, Philly for the convention, we were all nasty and sweaty and gross and had been sleeping on a floor and doing drugs all week. Who are you with? We were with Brad or were you with like him and Stefan and, uh, will Felix and Matt and Rob Wissman and there's a ton of us. Yeah. And we all walked in there and everybody by the five minutes after being in there are standing

around with two drinks in their hand, just drinking like, and I didn't drink. I just got high. I was just really high on drugs. Responsible. What kind of drugs? Probably not pills at this time, because I was still kind of being like, I shouldn't do pills back then. Now I'm like, I should probably do some pills. I love them. Just to be clear, though, only when you're away and you're not like because people do, I think they get concerned, like when you had your broken foot and you were sort of making up your own schedule of how to take your painkillers and people do maybe worry. So just because you don't, you don't take any weird. Yes.

Well, it's not weird. It's indicative of somebody who, uh, has a, is addicted to, uh, pills perhaps. Oh no, I just wanted to get as high as possible with the, I wanted to like get as fucked up on Oxycontin as possible with the amount that I had. I didn't have like, Oh, okay. A lot. Oh, okay. I misunderstood. Yeah. No, no, no, that's totally fine. Um, all right. Give me six. Give me, you give me six or you give me nine of them. I'm going to do three at a time instead of spreading them throughout the day. Like what does that even do for any? It keeps the pain away for the day. Not from me. It doesn't. Well, you didn't take them.

So you had to endure the pain for the entire day so that you in fact endured a lot of physical pain in order to get high. I have a high threshold. Well, thank you guys for doing the show. I am currently searching for the Bart Tracy shirt and I think I'm gonna purchase it. I Didn't know about it. I found it for $94, but it's a woman's shirt. So that's not gonna work for me We we once Somebody at a live show we went to brought in a classic like Bart 420 shirt from like 1990 or 91 and And they asked us to sign it and we did it. But we were like, really? Like this is, this is a work of art. You don't want

our signatures on this. I do the same thing. When, when somebody, when we had posters we were selling and they'd be like, sign this. And I was like, I think, uh, I think it'd be better without my signature on it, you know, and no one's ever asked me to sign anything. It happens. I'm fine. I'm seeing air Simpson. Do the Bartman. Yeah, I'm going to find a Simpsons, a bootleg Simpson shirt and

spend an absurd amount of money on it. Do you guys have anything you want to plug? Like, well, you have talking Simpsons, but anything else or that mainly talking Simpsons. If you like our Simpsons, our vast Simpsons, but anything else or that? I'm mainly talking Simpsons. If you like our Simpsons, our vast Simpsons knowledge, that is not embarrassing. We are not Simpsons guys, but we talk about them and we can help you translate them. Check out Talking Simpsons and the Patreon's patreon.com slash Talking Simpsons. All the podcasts are there ad free.

We've been doing this. We're in our 10th year now. So we've covered so many of the episodes and we also do episodes about shows like Futurama and King of the Hill and the critic and mission Hill and other animated sitcoms like that. I've been on it. I love King of the Hill. I love King of the Hill. King of the Hill is the best shit.

I have, I have been on the show. I always have fun and uh, yeah, listen to the show. Yeah. If you're not Simpsons guys, but they are frustrated with the depiction of Lisa Simpson and a little bit. She's just a little bit getting too much screen time is what they told us before. But the you guys are from the left. That's how we see that smart. That's the way I do, too.

If you want to, I think it would be a good where would you if someone wanted to get back into the Simpsons Do you know what I mean? Like they're like, oh I've lapsed or whatever like I since the late 90s Like I want to get into modern Simpsons. Is there any advice you'd have? Oh Boy, I mean the tree house of horrors are usually pretty good They usually put a lot of energy into making those funny and high concept I don't know. I feel like the recent season premiere, it's called Bart's birthday. It's pretty inspired. It's not like a normal episode, but it shows you that they're trying to do a lot of new things. I don't know.

Okay. I did hear that they did a thing that was like pretty clever. It was like a series finale, maybe that's like, that's it. Yeah. Yeah. And it's funny. It's funny because there were several posts on no Homer of people saying, I don't like what they're doing with the new series. Cause they did not understand that it was a joke that they were doing a series for now. They don't, they don't get high concepts anymore, but that's mainly, mainly that is if you're, if you watch simpsons from the last three or four years Most of the best ones are high concept episodes, though. It also is them taking Big swings that don't always hit but uh, they they have they at least are having fun and are being creative as opposed to just uh, kind of stagnating for for a bit like uh, wow, wow

Yeah, what the fuck Ryan on ebay just pulled up his shirt it says crack kills san Felipe mexico and Bart is stuck in a gigantic woman's ass and what is he saying i can't read it he says just say no dude to crack That's fun and on your patreon do you guys you guys ever talk about? Spending money on like really stupid shit like a bunch of money on stupid shit So the people who are giving you money to listen to you're thinking here that you're gonna buy a bunch of dumb stuff. I Try to hide my shameful purchases. Yeah

of dumb stuff. I try to hide my shameful purchases. Yeah, that's a way to go with it. Definitely. I do. I'm the most guilty of it, I suppose. But I've I should say, like I Brian, I'm going to need to ask you for tips on being a Lego person because I have not bought this. This was gifted to me though by my husband. Oh, this is heavy. Oh, I have that. I have not bought this. This was gifted to me though, by my husband. Oh, this is heavy. Ooh, I was like, I have that. That's a beautiful set. It's a daily bugle Lego set of all the Spider-Man characters at the daily bugle. My husband just gave this to me. It's a very nice set. It's a very nice set. I have it. I had to disassemble it and I'm using it for parts now. Yeah. And I would build, I would suggest that as well. It's a good set. I have it. I had to disassemble it and I'm using it for parts now. Yeah, I would Build I would suggest that as well. It's like you build it

But then I'd say like, you know strip it and see if you could do a little mock You know what? I mean, I'm not a Lego guy like this is the oh, no adult Lego said I've been gifted so Yeah You want your own creation base? I I have I'm working now on like a big tall mountain from Lord of the Rings. And when I'm done with that, the X-Men 97 mansion, I already have it in the waiting. So that's see, this is the bad. I don't, I have no space. I am surrounded by DVDs and blue rays. I have no space. I don't have any room either. I'm gonna

tell you what, Henry, I don't have any room either.. I'm gonna tell you what Henry. I don't have any room either I have the Titanic in my bedroom right now just sitting on a thing. So Believe me. Yes, check out talking sims is wherever you you listen. Yeah, I really appreciate appreciate both you guys coming on this time It was really great to have you Yeah, thank you for doing it guys. We we love you. Goodbye. Bye