Habits and Hustle - Episode 201: Lisa Stardust - Resident Astrologer at The Today Show, Best Selling Author, Tarot Card Reader and Energy Healer
Episode Date: December 27, 2022Lisa Stardust is the Resident Astrologer at The Today Show, a best-selling author, tarot card reader, and energy healer. In this episode, Lisa reads Jen's charts, explains what exactly Mercury being "...in retrograde" means, and discusses her work on The Today Show as well as the many publications she freelances in. Taking on the questions of how and why people should look to astrology for a better understanding of their circumstances as well as attempting to make the field more accessible to the public at large, Lisa doesn't shy away from a clear-line discussion about use and misuse as well as the personal responsibility at play when astrology is involved. Maybe you're deep in astrology, yourself, or maybe you've never understood it. Whether it's unfamiliar, or a way of life for you, this episode is filled with interesting info for you to parse. Youtube Link to This Episode Lisa’s Website - https://lisastardust.com/ Lisa’s Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/lisastardustastro/ Find out Jen's secret to getting anything you want out of life 👉 https://www.jennifercohen.com/the-secret-to-getting-anything-you-want-in-life ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Did you learn something from tuning in today? Please pay it forward and write us a 5-star review on Apple Podcasts. 📧If you have feedback for the show, please email habitsandhustlepod@gmail.com 📙Get yourself a copy of Jennifer Cohen’s newest book from Habit Nest, Badass Body Goals Journal. ℹ️Habits & Hustle Website - http://habitshustle.com 📚Habit Nest Website - https://habitnest.com/ 📱Follow Jennifer - Instagram - https://instagram.com/therealjencohen - Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/therealjencohen - Twitter - https://twitter.com/therealjencohen - Jennifer’s Website - https://jennifercohen.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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I hear that terminology a lot like it's mercury
right for right what does that even mean? So mercury butch
agree is more of an optical illusion that occurs in the cosmos.
So when mercury is butch agree, the planet mercury is actually
just moving a little bit slower than earth is at the current
moment because normally mercury moves faster than Earth
around the Sun. So it's sort of a time when you know Mercury is a planet of communication,
travel, thoughts, and everything in between. And we need Mercury to connect with people. We
need Mercury to use our credit cards because it's all about technology and connecting and
When it's much to great, it slows down a little bit. So it has a really big effect on this earthlings. So
You know, we really kind of go a little crazy because we're like we can't think fast, but the hell is going on
But you know, it's a great time to reassess, revisit,
replan, stalker, X's online, or connect with them.
I'm an astrologer, and all I do is stalk my X's online
during Mercury, Rutscher grade.
So check in with people from the past, revisit old ghosts, revisit old projects.
I mean, it's a great time if you're going to like go back, but you know, for starting something new,
it's not an ideal time. There are people who are born with mercury, red sugarate in their charts,
and this is a time when they flourish because normally the world is moving, you know, too fast for them.
So this is a time when like everyone's kind of at their level.
Now, what's weird about this Mercury Wetsch Agreed is that five other planets are currently Wetsch Agreed as well.
So everything is just really kind of crazy right now in the
stars. We have Pluto, which is all about change in transformation. That's
about sugaryed. So a lot of people are having to face their biggest fears in
their shadow side and their past actions.
Here on is, which is a planet of rebellion, is much degraded. So things aren't happening fast for people.
People who want to work on relationships or stay in them,
they don't know what they're doing.
We also have Saturn, which is about commitment and boundaries.
That's much degraded.
So people are unsure about how to impose proper boundary
as Jupiter, which is about expansion
as much as grades.
So that's not a bad brush your green, but what's happening is that people are not really
wanting to open their minds and to hear a lot of what other people have to say.
They're being more stubborn.
And then we also have Neptune, which is all about illusion and illusion.
So, you know, the truth is ever hard to find to know what I mean.
So putting it all together, you know, people are getting caught in lies or people are just being exposed
or like people's truest feelings are coming out.
So, and so it's okay.
So, yeah.
No, okay.
So, for the layman's person, like myself,
how do you even know when you're in Mercury retrograde,
when that's happening?
Because, you know, probably,
unless you're super into this stuff and check it all the time,
most people don't know when it is, when it's not,
what they're, what they stand, what they're,
how their sign affects the mercury retrograde or otherwise.
Well, I always say, no matter what sign you are,
you're gonna be affected, you know what I mean.
So for some reason.
But how do you know when it's happening?
Like how do you know when it's when mercury retrograde do you know when it's when work director is in motion?
Luckily enough, workery, retrograde
has become such a big part, I think,
of the modern lexicon that people are talking about it,
more so than ever.
Harper's Bazaar wrote an article
during the last Mercury Retrograde in the spring
about how like Mercury Retrograde has been so commercialized, how like all
of these big brands now are like promoting Mercury Ratsha grade. Like, oh Mercury's Ratsha grade
have a beer. But also, you know, you can always like look at like read your horoscope and like
anywhere, but Mercury will be Ratsha grade one more time this year and it will be retrograde one more time this year, and it will be retrograde on December 29th again.
So we have this one, which is from September 9th until October 2nd,
and it's in the sign of Libra and Virgo,
and then the next one, which is in December,
will be in the sign of Capricorn,
and that's going to take us into the New Year.
So.
Oh, interesting.
So my birthday is September the 16th, which is in a few days, right?
So what does that mean if it's a birthday in Mercury retrograde?
Well, you're just saying about Virgo, because I'm a Virgo too.
So you said Virgo and Libras.
So what does that mean for us?
By the way, you look like a Virgo.
Virgo is always happy like the stat, the archety like a Virgo. Virgo's always have, you like the stamp, the archetype
of Virgo is like the blonde hair. You know what I mean? Like, Tanskin, you know, it's very
much the archetype, but really? Yeah, it's the fur of Meiden. You know that. Virgo's either
have no idea. No, I didn't know that. What does that mean? So tell me. So Virgo is the best deal meeting.
And the mythology behind Virgo is that I always say,
I have a lot of Virgo in my chart.
So I love Virgo's.
I have a fetish for Virgos and cancers, funny enough.
This is my chart.
Yeah, and I'm a Gemini.
So I always just get along with them the most
because I kind of like the direct concise communication.
And they also kind of, you know,
got me off the ledge when I'm freaking out.
Because Virgo's are really practical
and they have a lot of patience.
Now, the mythology behind Virgo is that, you know,
when Pandora's box was opened,
everything was let out into the world that was horrible,
except for hope.
And Virgo, the best-ill virgin in the maiden,
she really held on to the notion of hope.
And her whole vibe was that society and life full.
She was hopeful that people would become civil again
and loving and kind and generous.
So she escaped to the mountains
and when no one was do no war
and all this horrible stuff was still going on,
she decided to move to the clouds to be immortal
and she patiently waits on her cloud
looking down on earth until people are loving again.
So the most thing that we have to say about Virgos
is that they're very humble, they're very loving,
they're sympathetic, and they have a lot of patience,
and they're really hopeful that people can change,
and they want to give people the benefit of the doubt.
So I don't know if that rings true to you,
but a lot of Virgos that I have encountered
like, you know, they have like a very kind of sarcastic, some sort of humor. And they're
really like thoughtful, they're really analytical. They like to understand their emotions before
they react. And they love the truth, you know. So Virgos are more like the detectives of the zodiac.
They're the ones who investigate the crime
and who like, they're what we call,
Scorpio is the cause of justice
because it's all about transformation, rehabilitation
through prison, Libra is the skills of justice
because it's all about law and order and Virra is the skills of justice because it's all about law and order
and Virgo is the investigation of justice.
So, you know, you're a truth finder.
So, you know.
It's so true, I am a truth finder.
And I am like inspector Klu So,
I always wanna know everything about everything
and analyze, I analyze everything probably to death, actually.
Yeah.
Who is my, what signs are good for me, our burgos?
Like, our burgos good for good with certain signs or how does it work?
I would say that because you're ruled by the planet Mercury, like Gemini.
You're the mature Mercury.
Gemini is the immature Mercury.
So I just gave myself shade.
I would say that you know you get along with everyone. Gemini's I would say probably a lot
or you're really good friends that you could go on a road trip with and have fun with.
Tourists, Capricorns. I think everyone except Aquarius is a little bit too lost in like their own
beliefs because Aquarius can be a little bit fanatical at times.
What's birthday Aquarius by the way?
That would be January 21st, 22nd until February 18th.
And so, Gemini's win.
Gemini would be May 22nd to June 21st.
Oh, my husband's a Gemini.
Yeah, I mean, because, you know,
burgos always get me in line.
So all of my really good friends are burgos
or they have a lot of burgo in their chart
because they kind of get me, you know, in line they're like you have to stop obsessing over
like this boy or you have to do your work, you know.
So, Gemini's really respect Burgos because they find them amazing.
Gemini's love to be amazed, but also like Burgos teach them lessons and they kind of
meet that, you know, we all need someone to kind of
Tell us, you know, Gemini's like when we're being bad because we're bad a lot
Is Virgo and Lee because I have a like you didn't say Leo are Leo's and Bergo's not good?
Leo's and Bergo's got along quite well as Virgo is in Libra.
Now the reason why I'm mentioning these two
is because Virgo falls in between Leo and Libra.
So what happens here is that if you're acquainted
with a Leo, they probably have a lot of Virgo
in their chart, which makes the connection
a little bit easier.
So if they have a Venus in Vir Virgo, you know, you're
probably going to really like socializing with them or getting a drink with them or going shopping
with them or gossiping with them. But not. So is there different kinds of partners like for example
romantic partners are good for these these groups like for the Sun and that sign. Is there is
there truth in that? Like you're saying, well, like, what I get along with the Leo just
for an example.
Yes and no. I wrote an article a few years ago for Oprah Magazine about how I don't believe
as an astrologer, I really don't adhere to like a lot of the roles of compatibility and synestry that a lot of older astrologers believe in just because I've seen
people with horrible synestry and compatibility last a really long time in
relationships. Yes, having some aspects together can make things a little bit
easier, but a lot of people really like to work on the relationships as well
because without having something to work on things would be a little bit boring. Now classically,
they say that Gemini's and Burgos don't really get along but I've always gotten along with Burgos and
you know every Burgo I know has like a Gemini spouse or boyfriend or girlfriend or partner
or Bestie.
So, you know, I think it's interesting.
I think it really just depends like, you're a Virgo, if something was easy, you wouldn't
do it.
Because you like to talk about it.
You're an earth sign and that's the same way with Gemini's, Gemini's, Virgo's, the
reason part of the reason why they get along is because they get the hustle
So they get that you have to be doing 10 things at once or have your hands in 10 different pockets
At the same time and they respect their partner who does that, you know
Like a Gemini wants a partner who's a hustler and a Virgo wants a partner who's, you know,
doing it, making it happen, you know.
That's so true, actually.
So I want to actually get to my chart because you have my stuff.
Does it make a...
So, but number one, are you considered then an astrologer?
Is that what you're...
Like, because you have all these fancy jobs with the today.
Like you're the today's show astrologer,
you work with Vogue.
Yeah.
Are you considered this,
is that what you are in astrologer?
I am an astrologer, I'm a terror reader.
I view a lot of different things just because, you know,
I've been studying astrology since I was a kid.
My whole family is super new, A.G.
And my great-grandmother was a tarot reader during the Great Depression.
So she used to read tarot cards in the lower east side.
So for me, I've sort of grew up with a lot of this stuff around me.
And I just, I'm also a writer.
So I just combine a typical Gemini, right?
Let's just combine everything together that we find interesting and let's just make it
happen.
So then there's a difference, like you being an astrologer and or a terror reader, that's
different than being like a medium or you're not like psychic.
You basically take information you know,
and then read it to them.
Like you'd study it?
Okay, I'm not a medium,
because I don't really like to connect with dead people.
Oh, that's what I mean.
I actually just went to Lillie D'Al,
which is a Hamlet slash town in upstate New York
to write an article for Cosmo,
and that's the town full of mediums,
which is interesting, just because it's literally a ghost town.
Everyone there is a medium,
and they do readings during the summer.
It's a spiritualist community,
but I am psychic in the sense that like,
I do kind of know what's gonna happen next,
but I feel that I've always sort of been really intuitive.
I think that all human beings are intuitive.
I think that we just let the outside world
get in the way of what we're thinking.
So I always say that everyone kind of needs to like
cleanser or like get a good night's sleep,
like keep a dream journal, you know,
like do everything, use flour to water twice a day. And then they use what? Use what?
Florida water. It's just something that we use to cleanse our energy. You can
get it in the Florida water? Yeah, it's like a concoction of like herbs. It has
like rosinate, you know, like a bunch of different herbs, you can get it at CBS.
And you could just put it like on yourself,
like, spritz it on like twice a day,
or spray it in your home just to cleanse the energy.
What's the called Florida?
Florida water, yeah.
And I just spray it in my,
if I sprayed in my room or put it on my body,
it cleanses the energy around me.
Yeah, like I used it as perfume. So like for me,
I like it. Okay.
That sounds good. Like I like it. So I don't know if anyone else has a problem with it, but
because it has rose in it, I put it on my, I like put like a bunch in my hand and then I like kind
of like put it like on my legs and my arms and my forehead
Just to kind of protect me against negativity or even if negativity comes my way
It doesn't affect me and I usually do that in the morning and then I do that at night before I go to sleep
I put a little bit on my pillowcase as well
I put you know an amethyst crystal by my bed just to protect me because a lot of
the times, you know, people, nightmares and stuff are basically people coming to you
in the astral plane trying to kind of attack you or get into your mind. So it's just good
to have that attraction. Yeah. Okay, hold on just like, yeah, yeah, yeah, let me let's
again. So I like that Florida water. That makes sense to me. I can Okay, hold on, just like, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. Let me, let's, again, so I like that Florida water.
That makes sense to me.
I can go to the growth, I can go to the drive store.
People can buy it.
You spray it in your room, spray it in your body,
use it as perfume and that can cleanse energy.
That's a really good tip.
Using, putting a crystal beside you helps also with the energy.
Yeah.
Do you have to, how much of it is a belief?
Like if you believe it will work, it will work.
If you don't believe it, it won't work.
Like what's the,
I've seen some crazy things in my day.
I do go into things with an open mind,
but I also, I'm a skeptic in a lot of things too.
You know what I mean?
I'm a type of person, I'm a Gemini,
and I have like a Burguristelium,
seeing his believing with me. You know what I mean? Like'm a type of person, I'm a Gemini, and I have like a Bergerous Celium, seeing his believing with me.
You know what I mean?
I won't believe in things unless I see them happen.
But I've seen a lot of crazy things in my day,
from working in this industry and from having a family
so connected to the spiritual plane.
And even my mother, my mom's a Pisces,
and she loves all the stuff
So she always comes with me and all of these little adventures and she's seen a lot of stuff too
So you know for her give me what wait give me some other tips like that give me a couple other things we can do
um, I mean you can put Florida water with a lot of people do is a
Take you know like those gallon
bottles of water. You can buy that at the pharmacy. I mean, at the store and you can literally
put Florida water in it. People put Florida water in that and they'll put like rose quartz
or like they'll put amethyst in it and they'll just let it sit for a day and
then they'll transfer that into a spray bottle and they'll use that to kind of cleanser
apartment and you don't have to use a towel for it, you just spray the apartment 21 days,
just be 20 for 21 days except for when you have your period if you're a female.
And because you're also supposed to clean
when you're a bunch of your rating spiritually.
And there's also, you can take a salt bath,
which is epsom salt, which cleanses your aura.
You can take a shower or a bath.
You just put like a cup of epsom salts in the bathtub.
You can put rose petals in there.
And that's really good for cleansing your aura and for detoxing. You're going to feel that.
Epsin salt. Yeah, you're going to feel that or hemolane sea salt. You're going to feel the
ups and salt right away just because a lot of the gunk is going to fall off of you and you're
going to feel more like yourself. So the first two times that you are doing the Epson Salpath,
it's going to kind of make you feel a little bit exhausted
just because you're doing a really big detox
and a lot of the energy is being released.
But then within a week you're going to feel kind of more
centered.
Another thing that I really like to do is I meditate twice a day, just in what my
intentions are and what I want to manifest.
And I just want to be appreciative for what's in my life, for all the abundance and all
the wonderful things, just because the way manifestation works is that you have to be you have to work on it every day.
Another thing you could do for abundance for money is you can buy a rose of Jericho flower on Amazon.
I think they're like three or four dollars and it's a dried plant. My mother thinks they're so ugly, but I don't.
And what you do is you can put it in a glass bowl
and you just put water in it every month
and every month it's going to absorb the water.
You just have to tend to it.
And you just write your intentions on the bot.
You put your intentions on the bottom of the bowl
and put money around it.
And it will give you prosperity and luck around money.
Wow, that's a good one and does it work, does that work?
Yeah, of course.
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So how are you like a, okay, let me ask you a question.
Since you do all these things, are you abundant in money?
Are you making a lot of money?
I mean, I'm, I compared to like, I mean like, is it never, is it ever enough?
You know what I mean? I was was gonna say, it's have the career that you like.
You know, it's so you're not yeah, so you're not just saying go buy this flower. It's about it's basically in addition to
doing the work. Well, everything is you know, it's like it makes things easier. So if you want something to
be like bought or if you're pitching something it will kind of make the ride a little bit easier.
Does that make sense? Or meditating unlike your thoughts can really help you come clear as to what you want to present to someone if you're pitching them something.
So I think that it all adds up is working together. I always say that you can't just be all want
things, but we also have to use our energy to make them happen. So it's like equal parts,
you know, equal parts, manifesting equal parts, like setting the right intention, equal parts,
like, you know, working to make it happen. You know, I always say to people because I am a freelancer, but I get told no
a billion times a day from people that I've worked with for years.
And you just have to, you know, pick yourself up and still pitch to the same
people and still work really hard and give them the same quality work and try
to pitch somewhere else or reformulate it, you know. So it's just more about if you,
it takes a certain personality to do certain types of work as you know. And you
just have to be flexible and willing to try harder. But, you know, but definitely
for me doing a lot of these things
really allows me to disconnect a lot from my ego
and to knock it so upset or to not take it personally
or to have compassion, understanding,
or have other things slowing more better,
other parts of my career as well.
What is the most common question people ask you?
It's like they could be the ones who they're compatible with.
If they do the other part. Like, oh, I'm an Aquarius and I did a Taurus. How come we didn't get
along? It's like, well, you're both fixed signs. It's a hard combination. You know,
long, it's like, well, you're both fixed sides. It's a hard combination, you know, fixed side, kind of like moving muds,
you know, it can get a little, it's moving some, it can get a
little bit hard sometimes.
So when did you realize you had this gift? I guess you said when
you were early on, you had your family was very integrated with
this. And did you have any particular habits that helped you
cultivate the gift?
Well, I was really lucky because my dad, he,
was really, is really into mysticism.
And he would take me crystal shopping when I was younger.
So I was really fortunate that my father understood
that I was really into crystals.
And he would take me to special places all around New York
and even this local occult shop that was called Pastimes
which was in my neighborhood growing up.
And my parents didn't really think that, you know,
compared to what a lot of other people are doing,
like so what, she just, she's into magic and she's into crystals
not a big deal but I will say that my parents just supporting me and not thinking that I was
weird really is the biggest thing that really helps me because you know they're kind of into it too
you know it's nice to hear different philosophies.
So I'm gonna get it.
Well, that's how it sounds.
It sounds like that's how you kind of got involved.
Is that you're around it as a kid anyway.
So it wasn't like, it was out of the blue
that you kind of were interested in it.
Yeah, I mean, there were things here and there
that, you know, I was really intuitive about.
I remember one time, like a few times,
I would see things to my mother.
Like, I would lie to my mom about things
and then they would happen like a month later.
So it wasn't a lie, is it actually happened?
But, you know, if that was when I was a teenager
and one time when I was a kid,
I could feel my great grandmother, she was in a nursing home and I literally felt like I could feel my great grandmother, she was then nursing home and I literally felt
like I could feel her energy while she was sleeping. So like, or she was like talking to
me like it was a really freaky, surreal experience that I'm never going to forget. And it made
me kind of feel that like, you know, very, that sometimes there are some people who I can connect to without
having communication with. So you were saying, oh sorry. But like I say to people
like you can't turn it on or off. So sometimes you know like you have a vision
something's gonna happen sometimes you don't you know it's just it's just it
just happens you just you know like I wish I could turn it on.
So I make some mistakes, but we all make mistakes in life.
So it was part of learning and growing.
How accurate are you?
Like do you, do you have like a percentage
or like if someone comes to you and asks you,
like you don't know, like, I bet you,
I get asked all this time, all the time. But like, if this was, if don't know, I bet you I get best get asked all this time all the time, but like
if this was, if you knew everything, why don't you go buy a lottery ticket and win a lottery?
People knew.
People use my services for that.
I have a client and that's what he does.
So, you do it.
I do it just because I don't, like every time I play the lottery, I've won money.
I just, I just, my whole thing is just like,
I don't really like, I'm so busy with everything else
that like I wish I could like predict the numbers,
but I usually win like the scratch offs.
Like I usually get a vibe as to when to buy those.
Does that make sense?
And every time I do do those, I do when
like some money or my money back. One time I want a whole plane ticket, like the cost of a plane ticket
to visit my sister in California. But you know, I also don't really like to
use to exploit my own gifts. But I do horror re-estrology, which is a very specific type of astrology.
And it's an ancient form of astrology.
And basically, you ask me a question, and it's like the burning question on your mind.
And I'll give you kind of the whole tea regarding the story or a guess or no answer.
It kind of tells you what's going to happen in three months' time.
So, you know, my usual questions, unfortunately, are like,
are they cheated, God be?
And I can tell them what type of cheating it is.
Or like, well, I got this job, well, I got the promotion.
And, you know, am I getting fired?
So, you know, am I moving? Well, this, you know, well, we fired? So, you know, am I moving?
Well, this, you know, we'll go an application, go through.
So, you know, you can kind of ask everything and it's my job as an astrologer to help articulate
the real question and to answer it.
And that is a whole other type of astrology.
And I would say, regarding both chart readings and
horary, I have like a 99.7% accuracy, you know. Seriously? Wow. So can I, okay, so can you,
like if I said to you right now, because you know, this is a podcast, I don't want it to say I mean something like should I be pursuing this one
Opportunity that I've been really interested in
Is that enough information or is that like job right? It's a job right? It's not a job
I mean what I do now is a very different right like I work with a lot of different people doing lots of different things
but um
So I would say like I would be like,
what will happen and it will tell us the answer that way
because we always want to start the question with Will.
So or like Will has to be involved in the horror question.
So I think like what will happen with this opportunity?
And I can tell you if you're going to like it or if
it's going to be successful or not. Okay, can you? Yeah. Are you looking at it right now?
Yeah, on my phone. Do you need to know what the opportunity is? I should ask you afterwards?
is, I should ask you afterwards? No, I can figure it out. I mean, here's the deal. You're probably going to take the opportunity
because the ascendant ruler, who is you, and the moons square each other. However, I do
think it's going to take a long time to come to fruition, and there's going to be a lot of back and forth reverting the situation. So will you, well, it's going to be fine, like you'll
like it and you are going to take it, but just be prepared that there's going
to be a lot of back and forth. Does that make sense? So if you're looking for one
outcome, I would say, look, like by, by the end of October, you're going to have
like, you're going to think it's going to go one way. But then Mars, who is, Mars will
be much agreed from October until January. So things will be a little bit back and forth
in the meantime. So just be prepared that it might change a little bit what you're going to do. But should you take it?
Yeah, and it looks like it's gonna be good.
So can you read my chart?
What's my chart say in general?
What do people get out of charts?
If you read someone's chart, what do they get out of it?
Like kind of like when they should be looking for...
when they should be looking for,
when they should be looking for love,
stuff like that, like, where is a relationship going?
I'm just,
sort of kind of like that,
hold on, I have your chart here,
your point at seven,05 a.m. rate.
I don't know.
I have it.
It was just in Canada, by the way.
Yeah.
It was a buffalo.
We went to Canada.
Oh, nice.
Are you married?
What's your situation?
Fortunately, I just was involved with someone for a really long time.
And I finally ended it.
I knew it wasn't going to work.
That's the problem with knowing things.
Is that it's not going to work with That's the problem with knowing things is that, you know, it's not going to work, but then you still want to be in it anyway.
You don't even have to be psychic for those things to happen.
Yeah, well, you know, like I kind of just, I think that like, you know, I just was kind of over
it, but I also kind of, I have a Sagittarius man, so I, you know, like,
I guess I'd like being single, but I also like Emma Gemini, Gemini's love of partnership
because that's a dualistic sign, so we like having a right or die, so, you know, don't worry,
I'll still torment my ex, so.
You're right, you told me, you're stalking him and Mercury retrograde.
Well, all the other ones.
OK, so you have Eurovergo with the Virgo Rising
and your Boon is in Libra.
So those are what we call the big three.
So your son is in Virgo, which, you know, as we said,
you are a thinker.
You're an investigator. You have big thoughts, you're really smart,
and you're really hopeful, you're really kind, really practical. Your ascendant is based on the time
that you're born in the day, and your son is on your ascendant. So when we see people who have
their son on their ascendant, they're really meant to kind of be dealing with the public. They're
meant to have a larger than life persona and you know you have a podcast. So it's
in Virgo, so you're meant to communicate with people. Your moon is based on the
day and the month that you're born and your moon changes every two and a half
days.
And that represents your emotions also the way you connect with the maternal influence
in your life, like the parts of yourself that you can express and your moon some leap
across.
So, you know, being that you have a leap of moon, it makes sense that you are attracted to kind of
area type of people to partner with, like, Gemini's, maybe Aquarius's, maybe, Leifra's
just because, you know, you like talking about your emotions, you know, and you like
partnering. And contrary to what people say, Erisans love to be in a partnership because
they like to talk to someone, you know what I mean? in a partnership because they like to talk to someone you know
what I mean.
They like to, they like to gossip, they like to share secrets.
Now you were talking about having a Leo person in your life, a friend, and your Venus is
in Leo.
So that makes sense that you would be connected with Leo's just because you like to, you know,
you like to do things with them.
You like to have a lot of fun and you like to get things started and you like to share
a lot of secrets with them and you like to party, you know.
So that would be like your bestie.
By the way, your moon is an Aquarius,
not me at the brine, I've missed from that.
So with an Aquarius moon, you would probably,
you would be someone who connects with the world,
which is what you're doing,
but still a relationship oriented.
Now what's interesting about your chart
is that your Mars is a
Now what's interesting about your chart is that your Mars is a Gemini and you were talking about how your husband is a Gemini. So you know, I mean, he's very attracted to you. Mars is the
planet of like action and like sex and passion. So I mean, the first thing he noticed about you
was that he's like,
well, like I want her. I don't know why, but I need her in my life, you know. And I think
that a really big part of your relationship is that he really likes the fact that you
kind of, you know, get him like fired up and like take action and really passionate about
a lot of causes.
All right. I like the. How about a cat perform?
Like do I like cat performance?
Yeah.
Oliver goes like cat performance and toruses.
Yes, cat perform rules your fit house.
So the chart is divided into 12 different sections.
So cat perform would be like the fifth house of like
fun speculation like you like to hang out with calf recordings, you know like well my kid is a
calf recording. And that is a child that is a house of children. So that makes sense. Do you see how
I have my other one? Yeah, but my other one's Mars 23rd and that's the Pisces and your second child is
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So my first child is Capricorn in my chart?
Yeah, so your fifth house is also your fifth,
sorry, your first child, and that's rolled by Capricorn. Your seventh house is your marriage partner,
but also your second child, and that's rolled by Pisces. So yeah. What can I say, like, what kind of
is 2023 going to be a successful year, a shitty year?
Can you tell by that?
Well, I think that what's going to change, first of all, is that last year, and we had that
Saturn, Uranus Square, and Saturn's all about constructiveness, right? And Uranus is all about
freedom. So they were clashing each other. And this year, we kind of had the're on this is all about freedom.
So they were clashing each other.
And this year, we kind of had the end-to-all of it.
Now, life progresses, planets change.
So next year is going to be a little bit easier,
just because we're going to feel that,
like things are settling down a little bit.
There isn't that much friction between us and the government.
So I think that's going to be the number one thing that we're going to feel more of an
anything in the middle of the year.
So, I think that we're going to kind of really see like a lot of things changed and a lot
of things get better, I think, in terms of the relationship
and the role of the government, please, in our lives.
So that's the first part.
Okay.
Do you work with business people a lot?
Yeah.
And they say to you things like, should I hire this person?
Should I not hire this person?
What's my year going to be like?
Does that ever happen?
I've heard everything.
I've put everything. For the key decision.
I've heard everything.
J.P. Morgan famously said,
millionaires don't use astrology, billionaires do,
because he's astrology for every decision that he's made.
I work with a lot of celebrities who,
they're into astrology.
I just check their work because they want to know if this project is going to be successful for them.
You know, if they're going to get a job,
like why their fellow cast members aren't talking to them.
You know what I mean?
Like I've heard it all under the sun, which
is why when I say to people, nothing shocks me anymore,
there's nothing anyone can see that would shock me.
But I guess my question is, what is, like, okay,
so let's say I'm a business person.
I want to know, because a lot of these responses are vague,
to be honest.
Like, if I say to you, you know,
how is my podcast going to do in 2023? What kind of numbers am I going to you, you know, how is my podcast going to do in 2023?
What kind of numbers am I going to get?
Am I going to make money from all these other projects?
Like, if someone wants much more specifics, are you able to provide that?
Because I want the business people want specifics.
Yes.
I mean, I've worked with people from the launch state of defining the launch state for their
business because a lot of the times
astrology is all about timing,
particularly. So I have to find like the
best date to start something, right?
So they're like, what is the best
date to launch this or make this
announcement?
Should I take this job?
Should I hire this person?
Should I go through with this lawsuit?
Should I make this investment?
Before COVID began, we all knew that something big was going to happen. We all knew, but they're
pretty much like every astrologer, because we all knew that a lot of what happened was going to happen.
What's interesting is that I gave a reading
to someone who is very wealthy businessman
a month before, you know, in January.
And I remember saying he asked me about an investment.
And I was like, I think you should get out of that investment.
I think you should kind of not take on any new business
right now based on the horror,
recharge, and the tarot cards
and everything that I pulled.
And I found such saving him a lot of money
if he would have lost because the stock market,
whatever happened happened during COVID.
So sometimes you can get answers,
but you don't get explanations.
And it works both ways because the person has to believe and have faith in you based
on things that have happened.
Or one time I told someone to pull out of an investment, and I didn't get a clear reason
why.
I kept some pulling with seven of swords, which is a deception card.
And like, I don't know, something weird is going on, like blah, blah, blah.
And they're saying I can't know, something word is going on, like blah, blah, blah, and they're saying
I can't imagine what it is.
It turns out like there was a lot of issues with the company that people weren't upfront
about that they found out down the road after they pulled out.
So, you know, we can only see as much as we can see and we can go really deep and we can
get really deep, but it's all based on the way the astrologer or
terror reader wants to interpret the information.
That's interesting.
So, the basically, a friend of mine is very into the moon.
Is the moon very much a part?
Is there like different, like if I'm not pulling right now a terror card, you're just kind
of reading my birthday, I guess, and like what time I'm
like around, born, or whatever. Do you want to someone need to pull cards that then you
can interpret for them to really be as accurate as possible?
Not after doing a horror recharge. Horror recharge is a little bit more accurate than tarot.
Just because tarot, you have the will to change the course of the action. Horror recharge most of the time,
I would say 99% of the time it's set in stone.
So the answer, although it may not happen today or tomorrow
within the next three months, you will see that it's correct.
So a lot of the times, Taro,
you do have the things can change,
the energy can change with tarot.
You know, if you make one decision, if you're asking me, like, should I take this job, right?
And the tarot is saying no, and the horridory is saying yes.
It's like, maybe things need to change and the agreement you have with them in order
for that to work out in your favor.
But most of the time, if you have a really good terror reader and a really good astrologer,
you are going to get consistent answers.
The only time you're not going to get consistent answers is that if the person asking the
question is not telling you the whole story or lying.
How do you know when someone's good or bad, like as a consumer, right?
If they're just like, if they know what they're talking about, if they don't, like, how do
you know?
If they're making you have anxiety during a reading, what's not a good sign?
If they're really pessimistic or if they're really pushing you to buy more services, that's
not a good sign.
Don't forget that we all have to do it here
as to an ethical board as well.
And a lot of astrologers and terror readers don't do that,
so that's why they can get away with being shady
and not being good.
But for those of us who are like we do have an ethics board and
they're very strict and you can't push products on people you can't push
readings on people. Sometimes if I have a client and they keep on asking the
same question or they have anxiety I'm like I'm not gonna charge you for this
reading like let's talk about why you're upset or why you're freaking out.
You know, like it's just if and that's what an ethical person would do.
You know, so can you say to someone like, Hey, um, uh, is my not like is my partner
cheating, but like, am I with the right person?
Is there a better person out there for me?
Am I doing the right stuff?
And will you say yes or no to those things?
Yeah, I mean, I think that some transists
affect people more than others.
And I've seen people that needed to get divorced
based on their charts, you know?
I've had to say to people, look like I got it,
you're gonna try to stay with this person
because you're a tourist, you're gonna give it all you can give
but ultimately I just feel like you're gonna break up with this person and around this time, you know, and I've had people
who don't take my advice who reach out to me and say that I was correct, you know, so
yeah, to answer your question.
So yeah, to answer your question.
Like how do you, like, okay, so like, when reading someone's charts,
can you tell somebody based on just reading the chart,
what they're meant to be doing?
Like, let's say they're doing one thing.
Can you be specific and be like,
I think based on your chart, you should be doing this
and you should be with that. Yeah. I mean, for instance, I have my planet Venus is in my 10-pals of career.
And Venus is all about feeding, closing, or helping people, and with this sympathetic year.
And, look, I used to work in the fashion industry. I used to work in the food services industry.
I also give people advice and I listen to what they have to say.
I genuinely want to help people.
I would say it's just more about if you're aware and if you listen to like your chart, you know, so I believe for you you have your
10th house is ruled by Gemini and Mars is there so
You are on the right path of what you should be doing
I would say that the thing about having Gemini ruling your 10th house of career is that
You can be doing a lot of things at the same time.
And I would say just watch out because you can get burnt out really fast if you're not
doing what you love.
So yes, totally.
Can you can you work off of energy like it's like if two people are beside are talking
and can you say this is a bad match?
It can be both professionally or personally. I'm talking.
Yes.
I don't do work off of energy ever more.
I'm laughing because I just had a discussion
with one of my best friends about this.
Oh, yeah.
OK.
There was a friend of mine was seeing someone
and from the very beginning before I even met this person,
I was like, this person has really bad energy.
Like I just have a vibe and I was right, you know?
I just think like you can feel energy a lot of the times
if you're doing this type of work
and like you deal with a lot of people,
you can, you know, feel like if they have good energy,
if they're bad energy or like if they're just
to need like a cleansing
or the flu or the or the or the or the floor the Florida water right yeah like
a little bit yeah is like the Florida water with like an egg cleansing like they
need a lot of work you know. What's it called an egg? It's a
little bit yeah L.A. and then the next word is L.I.M. P.IIM PIA and it's a lot of the times you can use a
broad egg and you just roll like the hard egg around your body and it cleanses your
auras and your chakras. Interesting. Yeah a lot of Cuban country, Cuba does that.
A lot of countries in Africa, do the Olympias, a lot of countries in the Caribbean.
Yeah, a lot of places, you know, Afro-cuban communities do it, also in South America and
Mexico.
So, so far, for abundance and money, you told us that we can buy that flower.
What kind of flower is it?
Rose of Jericho.
Rose of Jericho on Amazon and then put money around it and...
Right?
Yeah, you just put it in a bowl of water and it's going to grow and expand.
My mom's rolling her eyes because she hates the Rose of Jericho. She thinks it's like so grow and expand. My mom's rolling her eyes because she hates the rose of
charcoal. She thinks it's like so unattractive. It's just to try, it's like dried twigs that
are like put together nicely that look like your bro. I get it. Yeah. I get that. Okay.
And then that expands and you know every month you're going to want to add more water to it.
You're not going to want to throw it away. it's just going to absorb the water every month. So you're going to want to continuously add.
So, because it's going to struggle up every month. Okay, one more. And for single people who want
to find love or people who are not single, who want to find love, whatever, is there like a thing
that you can do to bring that energy into your life? Well, I also made a love deck,
which is about love manifestations and meditations
and crystals, but if you're looking to find love,
the one thing that I always say is that
you've got to be clear about what you want, first of all.
And I know that everyone says that,
but setting the right intention
and manifesting the right type of person
is the most important thing.
Because, you know, in the movie, Practical Magic, she manifested Aiden Quinn and like that
was in the other one manifested that criminal, you know.
So you got to be clear as to what you want and who you want to bring it, like Sandra Bullock.
And, you know, if you are looking for love,
you gotta put yourself out there.
Unfortunately, the right person isn't gonna show up.
And I think that if you're really ready
and feel confident enough and good about yourself,
they're just gonna show up like that, you know?
So, how many times do people say,
I wasn't looking for love and I found that person,
but I was just in a really good place in my life. So the first thing we have to work on is
loving herself and not settling for bullshit and putting ourselves first and being confident
and strong enough. And then the right person will find us.
And then the right person will find us.
Is there any, okay, great. Is there any other, is there any other practical,
actionable things we can do that you can share with us?
Rose quartz is really good.
You can wear a Rose quartz necklace.
For what is that dude?
It brings in love and happiness and confidence.
Yeah, or you can wear a Rose quartz ring or you can even carry rose quartz with you.
Or, you know, you can even have rose spray.
They have rose special spray.
That's really good because rose is a flower of love.
So anything that's then did rose will kind of help bring that energy into your life.
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So that we covered love and compatibility,
success and abundance, money.
And I guess actually actually that's great. So for more information, people can do what? They can follow you on Instagram, they can find
you on the Today's Show. Yeah. I write horoscopes for Teen Vogue. I write weekly horoscopes for
Teen Vogue and I have a practical magic column, Burteen Vogue, which is sort of like a little witchy column
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So yeah, I find the answer.
You're everywhere.
I am everywhere.
You've got a lot of jobs.
But Gemini slash Virgo person, you know.
Yeah, that's a me.
Exactly.
It sounds very familiar.
You really know that keeping busy is only can keep us
to some real people out of trouble.
Totally true.
I need to the busier I am, the better it is.
I like to be busy.
I don't like to have that much downtime.
Exactly, because we're doing time things at once,
and if we're not, we feel like, like, what?
We don't. Exactly.
Like, we don't just, like, you know, my sister is a Scorpio,
and she gets it, and my dad's a Scorpio too.
So, like, I kind of come from like this like,
you know, like hard hustling family where it's like you want something you have to earn it.
You have to work for it. So I believe in that, you know, and yeah, you know, that's what I say where
it's like half like spirituality and also half like you know, like nothing in this world just free and, you know, no matter what,
like I get told no 10 times a day by people
and I still, you gotta just pick yourself up
and not cry over the past and persevere.
I get told more than anyone else, but I know.
But really?
Oh yeah, but like you just got to move on,
you know what I mean? It's like, that's why I say that.
You know that it's hard to like compartmentalize things,
but you know, you have to.
And that's why Virgo's in Gemini's got it
because we can compartmentalize things in our brain.
So.
I love that.
Well Lisa, it's been a pleasure.
You can also find her on Instagram. It It's Lisa. It's Lisa. What is your handle?
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