Habits and Hustle - Episode 235: Bob Does Sports: How He Went From Four Seasons Doorman To Multi-Millionaire Content Creator
Episode Date: April 25, 2023Would you ever take the chance of faking a sponsorship? In this episode of Habits and Hustle, I sit down with Robby Berger, also known as Bob Does Sports, and chat about his journey from being a door...man at The Four Seasons Hotel to being a multi-millionaire content creator. In just a little over two years, Bob has built up an enormous following through different platforms and gigs, such as Bob Does Sports and The Brilliantly Dumb Podcast. He shares with us how he got Yamaha to be his first podcast sponsor, how much money he makes from sponsorships, and how he built a team from scratch. Bob also shares what his morning routine is like and why he believes his audience got so engaged with his content so quickly in the game. Robby Berger is a podcast host known as the personality "Bobby Fairways" that hosts both the podcast The Brilliantly Dumb Show, and its offshoot show, Bob Does Sports, which is popular on Instagram. Both shows focus on comedy and his fandom for sports, mostly the sport of golf. What we discuss: 00:28: About Bob 05:18: Why did Bob get a job at The Four Seasons? 15:31: When did Bob quit The Four Seasons? 18:55: Who was Bob’s first sponsor? 24:40: Who was Joey cold-cuts? 29:28: How did Bob grow his audience? 38:21: What did Bob do when he stopped getting paid? 44:01: What happened when Bob started filming golf content? 45:15: Who’s idea was Breezy Golf? 49:17: How much money is Bob making? 54:16: Who is Bob’s manager? 55:29: What is Bob’s sponsorship pricing? 59:20: Is it a real golf tournament that Bob is a part of? 01:04:04: What ownership does Bob have in these different businesses? 01:07:13: Why did Bob break up with his girlfriend? 01:13:42: What deals does Bob have going on right now? 01:18:26: Where are Bob’s favorite bagels from? 01:20:54: What is Bob’s morning routine? 01:27:56: How did Bob’s audience get so engaged? 01:29:17: What food does Bob eat? 01:46:52: Where to learn more about Bob? Key Takeaways: Sometimes you have to fake it until you make it if you want to experience success. While Bob Does Sports has a huge audience and plenty of major sponsors today, he started by faking a year-long sponsorship with Windex to lure potential sponsors in. This allowed him to play his cards right and lock down his first real sponsor, Yamaha. Building a team that cares as much about the business as you do is the key to building something big and worthwhile. In Bob’s experience, he once reached a point where he had no money to pay his editor and he continued to support his content and work for free because he believed in Bob. If it weren’t for his editor, he wouldn’t have the massive audience and success he has today. Monetizing your audience is something you should look at like any other type of business. There is more than just one way you can generate revenue and it’s certainly not good practice to rely on one source of revenue. In Bob’s case, he makes money through Cameo videos, sponsorships, ads, and merch, and eventually built a Golfing brand. To learn more about Bob: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/brilliantlydumb/ Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@thebrilliantlydumbshow8757 Thank you to our sponsors: This episode is sponsored by Shopify. Sign up for a $1/month trial period at shopify.com/hustle This episode is sponsored by Organifi. Visit organifi.com/hustle and use the code HUSTLE to save 20% on your order My links: Website: https://www.jennifercohen.com/ Instagram: @therealjencohen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Hi, guys, it's Tony Robbins.
You're listening to Habits and Hustle.
Crescent.
So I have a real treat for any guy who's listening
to this podcast because we have, so funny,
Robbie Berger.
First of all, I have to say, you remind me so much of like the Incroman Will Ferrell,
just the way you've been, like the names.
So let me just say this, okay.
So his name is Robbie Berger.
He's a K.A.
Otherwise known as Bob Desport.
He's also brilliantly dumb, right?
That's another one of your things, right?
Okay, but he has like breezy golf.
He has like, he's just kind of like the guy
of the moment for sure with other,
for any guy who's 18 to 80.
Okay, let's put that out there.
He's the guy.
People are obsessed with him.
Full disclosure, I know barely anything about this person.
Normally I do a lot of research and I am like, are obsessed with him. Full disclosure, I know barely anything about this person. Normally,
I do a lot of research and I am like, I like have my notes and I have all these questions
that I want to ask. And I think this one will be a little bit more of a free-for-all because
of just the nature of like everything about you. My husband thinks you're amazing, my
friend, my guy friends think you're great. I think this is like, I'm just,
I'm like super excited to have you on this.
I like the free-for-all style.
The free-for-all style might end up being better
than not having it.
You know, than having it ready to go.
Maybe better that you don't know much about me.
That's why I don't want to know much because like,
I feel like, I feel like just from the ether
of what I hear about you, there's so many moving parts.
And like, even when I tried to research you,
it was literally impossible.
It was a lot going on.
There's a lot going on.
There's like every time I went on your Instagram,
that was the Robbie Burger.
Yeah, so that's the brilliantly dumb side of things.
That was a bro, okay, so can you start from the beginning?
Who the hell are you?
Yeah, it's a good start.
Yeah, exactly, good start.
Yeah, what's your name?
What's your name?
So my name is Robbie Berger.
OK.
But the Instagram that I had been doing before, even Bob Disports and all of that, was brilliantly
dumb.
The way I got the brilliantly dumb name was a lot of the comedy that I was doing was, I
guess you could say brilliantly dumb stuff, really stupid stuff.
Like, I guess you could say kind of like sign felt stuff like every day stuff that people all can
relate to but haven't like thought to really say it was kind of the angle that I tried to kind of hit.
So I'd been doing the Instagram for a while and abriilantly dumb and then I do.
Do you want on it just like doing these little bits about that?
Yeah, so I like all that.
Yeah a lot of like comedy bits sports like with my friends like my friends. When I have quite the crew of friends,
I'm sure we'll get into that.
It's all this cast of characters as well.
So I was putting everything on there through that.
And then at the time, there was no time
where I could do it full time.
It wasn't big enough to do as a full time thing.
So I was working at the four seasons hotel
as a manager there.
And then- You were a manager at four seasons?
Yeah, so I started out as a front desk agent and then worked up to be a manager there. You were a manager at Four Seasons? Yeah, so I started out as a front desk agent
and then worked up to be a manager there.
So it was like living two completely different lives
between Four Seasons wants you to be very buttoned up
and like, then on the side doing these ridiculous
comedy videos, so it was quite the mix
and like trying to juggle all of that
was really interesting.
So a lot of the comedy came from that.
So wait, so you moved, okay, this is what I do know.
You're from New Jersey?
Yeah. Okay.
You moved here to be a comic, a comedian.
Is that what you did?
Yeah, that was the overall goal,
but my cousin was working in the hotel business
and at the peninsula hotel.
Yes.
And I saw all the hands he was shaking
and the people that he was meeting.
So in my mind, the best way for me to get into entertainment
was to go shake all of those hands
and get to know all of these people,
hoping that I would meet a guest
that would finally be like,
you need to be an entertainment.
That was the goal.
Well, that's what a lot of people do when they move here, right?
Like a lot of people, I know actually a couple of my good friends.
They would like basically have lunch every day
at the Beverly Hills hotel, you Hills Hotel to meet certain people.
And it worked out for them.
Like they actually ended up meeting the right people.
And then there are a lot of other things
that they were trying to do.
It actually worked because of that.
Beverly Hills Hotel is the home
of the $35 pancakes.
100%.
Exactly, right?
It's true though, that was always my thing was,
you surround yourself with those people.
And for me, the best way that I knew how was to get into the hotels at the time and the people that you meet from there,
same thing now, like going into the golf world, something that notes as well. And I'm not a member
at a country club yet. I want to be, but like, if you could even find your way to get into a country
club, like the people that you meet in that whatever way you could kind of squeeze your way into
something like that, obviously, you know, it's not easy.
I'm not one yet, but like just being in those situations,
you never know what's going to come from that.
So hotels was the easiest route for me to get into that type of circle.
Totally.
By the way, that's why even like at Harvard and stuff like that, like people go to,
not even like you want the education, but it's the alumni, right?
Like the people once you're like involved in a certain, certain social circle,
that's how it's a conduit to all these other opportunities, right?
Yeah, but wait, so your cousin was working at the peninsula. Yeah, so then why did you not get a job at the peninsula?
Why did you get a job at the four seasons? It's very good question, Jen.
Okay. Thank you. It would it. That's why I paid the big bucks. Yeah, clearly. It would have been.
He's tough. He's a little bit different than me. He's tough. So he was the GM, he's the general manager there.
So it would have been as much as I wanted to be the peninsula because of all the people
that go to the peninsula.
It would have been tough just in the standpoint of God forbid I screwed up or did something
that I shouldn't have done if he would have had to be the one to fire me or whatnot that
it would have been tough.
So thankfully, he used a couple connections that he had to get me into the four seasons.
And even just to get me in,
like I was working before the four seasons,
I was working at the Mandarin Oriental,
and I was just a doorman there,
and I was used even being a doorman
just to kind of get my way in.
And thankfully when I came out,
he was able to get me into the front desk at the time.
And you know, at these hotels,
it's like these people,
a lot of these people,
they stay with you for like a month.
So like you get to know these families with the people's celebrities, at these hotels, it's like these people, a lot of these people, they stay with you for like a month. So like you get to know these families
and people's celebrities, so many people,
because they stay with you all the time.
So he helped me out.
But yeah, it would have been a little bit
of a conflict of interest if I was over there.
Okay, so wait, I've got a million questions just on that.
So by the way, I had an old friend who worked there.
She was ahead of PR, her name was Kim Kessler.
Did you ever meet her?
No.
Okay, she ran like four seasons PR for years.
So what year was this about when you were doing all that?
Had to be three years ago. Oh, okay, so that's actually when she left.
Three years ago? About three years ago. Yeah, she was there for like 10 years.
Yeah. Who did you meet there that was the most influential that actually helped?
Did anyone really help you that much? Like, Did you meet one person that impacted your career? And who was it?
This one stings for me a little bit because he's had a rough stint the last few
months, but by far the person who just handled himself the best day to day would
take the time out for you and just inspired me to just seeing how good he was to
people and he knew he could affect us by doing the smallest things.
Will Smith was one of the nicest human beings I have ever come across.
And you know, that whole thing happened up to the Oscars and obviously people could see
it.
And he was the nicest one of all.
Yeah, that's why it stung so bad when I see that because I knew it was, you know, obviously
that could maybe, you know, stain that a little bit.
But he was, he stayed with us all the time,
and he just, he looked in the eye when he talked to you,
he would shake your hand, and it just inspired me
that like, here's a guy who's so big,
and you have on the other side of it so many people
who just won't even look at you,
and like, they're so in their own world
for a guy of his stature to do what he did,
and know everybody's name.
That's one that always hit me so hard. world for a guy of his stature to do what he did and know everybody's name.
That's one that always hit me so hard.
You know it's so funny. I had a guy on this part. Well, do you know Mark Manson? Have you heard of him?
No. He wrote the book The Settle Art of Not Giving A Fuck. He also wrote, yeah, is it good?
Oh my god. It was the most popular book of the decade. He sold like 20 million copies.
Anyway, he also wrote the Will Smith biography.
And I was asking him about this,
just like a few weeks ago.
And he was like, it's really sad
because he really was genuinely
when the nicest people at that level
that I've ever met.
And then like this whole thing happens
and it's ruined his entire career
for or his reputation, right?
When that night happened,
my dad actually came and woke me up after that because
he had been watching it and he knew it was going to hit me hard.
And obviously I was so shocked when it happened because it's just, it's so unlike with him.
But I just felt back because you know what, he really messed up and I think he'd be the
first to tell you that.
But just knowing him the way that I did and seeing what he's done for me, it sucked for me.
And I'm pulling for him to, you know,
get it back on track.
That is so, that's terrible when that happens.
Cause like, it's like, I can totally feel what you're saying,
you know, especially if he was so nice to you.
And at the same time, there's no, you can't deny
that what he did, it just, it was off there.
There's no denying it.
It's brutal.
Yeah, there's no way around it, you know, like you can't not get.
That's what sucks.
You can't even like, you know, point your finger to this and that like he just he messed
up.
There's no other way.
Have you watched the Chris Rock special that just came out?
Yes, and boy did he go.
Oh my God.
He went in hard and funny and like he that was not even I felt like that wasn't even
a rehearsed bit.
Like I felt like he was emotionally like talking off the.
I agree.
There was something behind that tour. You could tell.
Totally.
It's almost like it still bothers him.
And yeah, look, he has a right to be upset.
But yeah, you could tell that the way he was delivering that, it still hit him.
That was not a practice bit.
Like I think part of it may have been like practice.
Totally great.
And then he started talking about it.
He was just like, he got just as mad as he was back then.
Yeah. And I was like, oh my God got just as mad as he was back then.
And I was like, oh my God, because he also
think I'm not going to hold tangent.
But for good reason, also, if you heard the whole evolution
of Will Smith, he went on that show
and his wife humiliated him.
She's like screwing around with the kid's friend.
It's tough.
It's horrible. I felt like there's been a the kid's friend. It's horrible. Like what?
I felt like there's been like a whole thing of events
that he's done, that that's why he just like lost it
at that moment, you know.
It was, it was, it was time.
I'll give you a quick, Will Smith story
when I was working at it was a hotel in Miami
where I met him.
And then another hotel that was opening up for creative.
But you were also at a hotel in Miami.
Yeah.
Which one was that?
The Mandarin Oriental. Oh, in Miami. And opening up for creative. But you were also at a hotel in Miami. Yeah. Oh, God. Which one was that?
The Mandarin Oriental.
Oh, in Miami.
And then here for seasons.
Yeah.
Well, the Faeanna in Miami is a hotel that recruited me to go over there.
Oh, okay.
So when I was in Miami, I went over there to be a dormant over there.
Okay.
The boss that I had at the time over there, I didn't want to leave the Mandarin Oriental,
but I knew I should.
The boss that I had at the time over there, he was brutal to me.
I mean, he was awful.
Oh, really? And he really made my job tough, and I really at the time over there, he was brutal to me. I mean, he was awful.
And he really made my job tough
and I really regretted going over there.
Anyway, he was a big Will Smith fan
and Will Smith was gonna check in that day
to try out the new hotel in Miami.
Oh wow.
So he's kind of all giddy throughout the day
and I'm wondering to myself,
I'm like, if Will Smith comes out of the car
and remembers me in front of my boss
who I can't stand, it would be the coolest thing.
So he pulls up and everybody's out to greet him all the executives, the owner of the hotel,
and there's my boss and he's all giddy and wants to meet him.
I'm standing there with my welcome cocktails and my door man outfit.
And I look ridiculous. I got towels and I'm just standing there.
And he pulls up and I'm like, I don't think he's gonna remember me.
He comes out, he sees me, he disregards all
of the big executives with the suits that were there.
Comes up, I put down my all the refreshment drinks
and he gives me a big hug right in front of the boss
that I don't, it was unbelievable.
So yeah, just to go to show you how much I like the guy.
The wonder, I totally get why you like the show.
Yeah, it hit deep, it hit how much I like the guy the wonder I totally get why you hit it. He hit. Oh my god. Totally. So then who was it someone you met that was like such a dick or like
the worst person you met? There's been different. I had a football player that was pretty tough. Who would
I know them? Yeah, I mean, look, like Tom Brady or look, maybe he was having a bad day. So I'll
give him the benefit of the doubt. But Cam knew and I had an interaction with.
Oh really?
Again, something like that,
you always want to try and give them
the benefit of the day out that he's having a tough day.
So just a tough little interaction,
but you see it all at the hotel, the way you just kind
to keep it moving.
And then again, just hope that you caught him
at a bad time, you know?
Right, but you see these people,
like a lot of these people, like you said, they stay for like months at a time.
Why would Will Smith, though, be at a hotel?
Like, wouldn't he be at a house?
Doesn't he have a house in Miami?
Does he have a house?
Like his whole song about Miami, like,
kind of, or when he was staying in Miami,
he was filming bad boys too.
Okay, so he had a house there for like,
to, he could say. You would think, you would think that.
It doesn't make sense.
He would prefer that, but yeah, he would stay with us,
so he was filming there.
A lot of times too,
you had the different actors or actresses
as well that when they're filming a movie,
they stay there for a little bit.
So, I'm with you.
I would prefer to go to a house, but.
I mean, exactly.
I'm just like,
that's just a logistical question.
Yeah.
How about the wife?
Have you ever met her?
Because she's the one I have a problem with.
Not even so much him.
It's her that was, I think,
is the, is the one that is the instigator.
Did you see her?
I did a couple of times.
All the times that I met her, it was really brief,
and she was really nice.
So just for the times, but again, it was very brief,
kind of just like, in and out,
but will we knew much more on a personal level
because he had been with us for so long
and would spend time down there with us?
Right, very nice.
Okay, so did anybody you meet while at these jobs
help ricochet or put you in a position
to get another position that helped you in your career?
Because obviously you're not doing that now, right?
So I want to hear about the evolution
of how this whole thing became now this,
but is there someone that helped you?
Yeah, there was a manager that I had at the time
who he said to me and like, you know,
I was taking the path of being in hotels.
He would watch all my videos on Instagram and stuff.
Right.
Were you kind of getting more popular on Instagram?
Yeah.
So it kind of got to a point where,
and I don't think the four seasons,
and I love the four seasons,
I don't think they necessarily liked it
just in the sense of,
it got to a point where fans would be coming to the hotel and they knew that I worked there. No
So in a way it kind of became a distraction not to say that they were like lined up across but like
Over time like fans would come over and they would come take pictures and for if you're a guest and you know
They employ you there all the sudden like people would be confused And then when I was a manager, I had a...
Ballet in their car.
Yeah, they were very confused.
And then I had about 50 employees under me
when I was a manager,
because I ran all of guest services.
So the employees as well, it was weird for them
to where they didn't really know what was going on.
And then it kind of caught on to where
they're watching the videos that I'm doing.
So it kind of became tough to juggle both.
But that manager said to me, he's like,
you know, you're not going to be doing hotels much longer.
There's something like you're not going to be doing this much longer.
I was like, I agree, but I don't know when that time is going to be.
Oh my gosh.
Okay, so when what, like what was the use of three years ago
that you're at four seasons?
Okay, so how long, like, so does you, when did you quit? So I quit. So, okay, so I had're at four seasons. Okay, so when did you quit?
So I quit, so okay, so I had been at four seasons,
I would say I started five years ago
and I quit three years ago.
So you were there for two years?
Yeah, I was there for two years, so not too long.
Okay, and then how long were you in the Miami ones for?
That was a while, I dropped out of college.
And I-
Oh, you did.
Yeah, and did the hotels full time.
Okay, how old are you now?
So now I just turned 30.
Oh my God, you're like a baby.
Am I though?
Because I kind of, when I hit the 30th birthday,
it's stormy.
Oh my God, you are.
Look at what you've accomplished.
And you're 30 years old.
Thank you.
I appreciate it.
Crazy.
It's pretty wild.
By the way, we haven't been gotten into this weight weight for people who are listening.
You have no idea what you're in for, I swear.
Okay, so wait, so then so you only worked for the four seasons for like a couple of years.
Yep.
Okay.
And you were starting posting on your brilliantly dumb.
Correct.
Okay, and then like how many followers would you say you had around then?
I would say it got like before I left, I would say it probably got up to about 250,000 I
would say.
Okay, but were you making any money?
Do you have any brand deals at this point?
Or you just had a lot of people who thought you were like, you know, the engaged, engaged
audience.
Yeah, so I was not enough at the time to leave my job.
Okay.
There was some brand deals
coming in here and there, but what I did for the podcast
and it really kind of framped it up
and it might be a little bit ridiculous.
I was doing a podcast on the side too,
so I'd billiard on my did the podcast.
Was it called brilliantly dumb?
The Brilliantly dumb show.
Okay.
And I created in order to show sponsors,
because whenever I would reach out to sponsors,
I didn't have anything to show them of previous work
that I've done with other sponsors.
So I created a fake sponsor on the Berlin-Lindem Show,
and I read out ad reads as if they were sponsors
on the show when they weren't.
Stop it, look at me in an example.
So like Windex, I had Windex for a full year,
and Windex never paid me.
So I'd be like, the Berlin-Lindem Show
is brought to you by Windex, Whip it,
Wipe it, Clean it, Spray it, I put Windex on everything.
And I did that so that I could show other sponsors
that I had worked with Windex,
I never worked with Windex.
So for a year I was doing that.
Oh my God, I love you, are you serious?
Yeah, yeah.
So I did that and it's like a running joke now
to where like even all my friends say that Windex sponsor,
but it helped me for the brilliant,
I'm sure it helped me actually get sponsors moving forward. Did Windex sponsor, but it helped me for the Brillian Amshow. It helped me actually get sponsors moving forward.
Did Windex ever contact you?
No, I don't think they cared enough.
No, they don't care, but even to give you a real sponsorship,
it would have been nice.
It would have looked, if I ever get a Windex sponsor,
I would take it regardless of what it is just because it's come for
a circle. 100%.
100%.
Why did you pick Windex because it was just funny?
It is funny. It was so ridiculous and it was so before it was the dumbest thing of all time
It was brilliantly done exactly
Yeah, it really was it was the dumbest thing of all time and I don't know why like you would think I did like a anything else
But a lady and but yet actually helped when I would go to sponsor me like yeah, you know
We've had windex so like I want you to get on board.
Windex is reaping the benefits.
So like, yeah.
Oh, I have me listeners as you even have at the time
like on your pie.
Yeah, I would say it was a, it averaged about like,
7,000 in an episode and it's grown.
But like, yeah, at the time, it wasn't a crazy amount.
So who was your actual sponsor?
Like, the first one you got, Like, because of the Windex?
The first one that I got was Yamaha, like their speakers.
So like, no, yeah, yeah, I think they thought, you know, what Windex is so bad, we might
sleep as well.
Yeah, so sorry, Yamaha, if you're watching.
That's a great tactic.
I know, it's bizarre.
That's a great tactic for this podcast.
That is hustle. Okay, first of all, so this, like, I was thinking, what am I going to I know, it's bizarre. That's a great tactic for this podcast. That is hustle.
Okay, first of all, so this,
I was thinking, what am I gonna,
I mean, there's lots to talk with your business stuff,
but that to me is like so smart,
and that is basically putting you in a position to win, I think.
Yeah.
And you're creating your own opportunities.
There was always,
I love it.
No pun intended.
There was always a side hustle to it pun intended. There was always like a side hustle to it.
And like I just it was like for me,
it was like whatever it took to get out of doing hotels
and get into that, I was going to do it.
I love that.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
Okay, so then like so then you're now still working there.
And then what you said 250 or so thousand.
Yeah, it's okay, but you weren't making money yet.
Or you can't was the Omaha paying you yet or not.
Yeah, you worry it was all like one off side deals
here and there. So nothing that was going to get me out of the hotels at the
time. So even when that manager said that to me because they even had had me on
the overnight shifts as well, which was just running me down. And like it was
it was awful. Like you go you work from 11 to 7 in the morning, you go back,
you wake up at like three in the afternoon when everybody's finishing their days at three and it was starting to wear
on me.
So I was starting to get a little bit frustrated and kept saying to me, you're not going
to be here much longer.
And, you know, he was right.
So what was your first job after the four seasons?
So I was always a big fan of bar stool.
Bar stool and sports was always my dream to end up doing that.
I'm surprised you're not, well now I mean we'll get to that, but you're not even there,
which is you are everyone, by the way, just side note.
The couple people I was telling that kind of was like familiar, they're like, oh yeah,
like he reminds me of like the new bar stool.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That was always bar stool was always my thing. And it's pretty great.
So towards the end of my hotel career,
this girl that I followed on Barsou,
I really liked her name, was Liz Gonzalez,
and she did a show, and she ended up filming the show
at the four seasons.
Okay.
So I had to take her up to the room
that they were going to do it.
I had to escort her up, and I said,
you know, I got to since the grand page,
I've been doing it, you know, for a little bit.
I'd love if you could take a look.
And I said to her, I really feel like I'm gonna end up
working for you guys one day.
And she couldn't have been nicer.
You could tell she wasn't gonna look at it.
She had a lot going on that day.
But what did she do at bars?
She was a host.
She's not there anymore, but she did a host.
She was a host.
And she was one of the bigger names there.
She was really good.
So she had an athlete that she was doing the show
with at the time.
And she said, yeah, like he's pushing,
like I'm sure one day it'll come or whatever.
She ends up leaving and a month later,
I got a DM when I came back to my office.
I got a DM from Dave Portnery, a bar still sports,
and you know said what's it gonna take to get you
to come work for me.
And then it just hit me.
I was like, wow, I'm not, here we go, like it's time.
So what happened? Why didn't you, what happened, why didn't you go?
So he wanted me to-
So he actually himself DMed you?
Yes. That's hardcore.
Yes, and that was always my dream, Jen.
Like that was where I wanted to go.
You have to, any of my friends,
like that's where I was gonna go, was Barsal.
So when he messaged me, it was almost a no brainer,
but a company called Bro Bible reached out to me
at the same time, horse neck medias behind them. They're called Bro Bible reached out to me at the same time.
Horse Neck Media's behind them, they're called Bro Bible.
And who's buying them?
Horse Neck Media is what they're called.
They're like a media company.
They have like a lot of blogs and stuff.
What's called Horse Neck Media.
Horse Neck Media, okay.
And yeah, like Bro Bibles, they're main page.
And the thing with Barsdol was he,
they've wanted me to, I just moved out, I'd only been out in LA for two years
then I had one bedroom apartment I really liked
and I had this crew of friends, Joey Coldcuts,
we mentioned like these ridiculous cast of characters
that I was so close with and was helping me grow my channel
and that I mean, we were like, I had to have them to where he wanted me
to then just move to New York.
On a salary that, look, I wasn't asking for a ton of money,
but like for a salary that, at that time,
leaving to go to New York with how expensive everything is there,
I would have had to get roommates,
and I would have had to change a lot of, you know,
my life to go over there.
How much did he offer you?
Don't remember what it was.
I think it was like 65,000.
That's it?
Yeah.
To New York?
That's a thing.
And the thing is too, at the time,
you're doing something for me,
why I would have been able to justify it.
It's something that I love to do.
So at the time, it's like, okay,
if it's 6,500 living in New York,
that's not ideal, but I'm doing something
that I love to do to work in the work.
This company, Bro Bible, offered me to where I could stay in LA
and I could stay with my friends
and they would kind of let me run wild.
Barstool wanted me to be in the office and stuff.
Oh, yes.
So you don't have the same type of autonomy.
You would have.
Yes, and it was one of the hardest decisions I've ever had
to make because I'm thinking to myself,
I'm like, I'm turning down my dream.
Totally.
What am I doing?
And honestly, it ended up being the best thing I've ever done.
And no disrespect to bar stool, it's just having the freedom to kind of experience and
explore what we were doing in that realm changed a lot.
So what did they allow you to do?
Bring on your gaggle of friends, basically.
Okay, name your friend.
Okay, so go through these friends of yours.
Joey Colt cuts.
Who is Joe?
Who are these people?
So Joey Colt cuts was working at the four seasons and he was the manager at the restaurant.
Okay.
This is real name.
It's Joseph DeMar.
It's a circus, Jen.
It's a total circus.
But this is why people love it.
Okay, it's crazy.
Joey Colt cuts was working.
Was the, was the, was he like a manager?
You said it, the rest of the, okay.
Yeah, so he was the, he was the GM of the restaurant.
Okay.
So like all these antics are going on at the hotel.
And meanwhile, we're at the four seasons.
And you know, we're like, you have employees under you and one
not so it was, it was crazy.
Like, yeah, I have, um. You have Joey Colt cuts.
You had a guy named Maddie Rigatoni,
who I knew from New Jersey growing up in New Jersey,
Italian guy.
And would it, Maggie Rigatoni, is his name?
Maddie Rigatoni.
And what does he do?
What's his role in this group?
So he was like a union, nine to five hard worker,
but like we all connected through Instagram.
Like we would do videos together through Instagram online
Zoom and all and like his name kind of we built him up. How did you find him?
Him I knew growing up, but then there's a guy Jersey Jerry who's a total not
Jerry. Yes, I saw him on YouTube with you. Who's this guy? He ended up going to bar stool after work
So we started doing the Berlin Liedum show.
I brought him onto the Berlin Liedum show.
Yeah.
And right around the time Dave offered me,
he also came back for Jersey Jerry as well.
No way.
And is he happy over there?
He's killing it.
Yeah, he's doing really, really well.
We always wonder like what could have been,
but he's dominating.
He's doing really well.
Wow.
So he's not part of your real click anymore then, right?
Not anymore. Once he went to Barça, we still talk, but, but not in like the content.
And then there's, I don't know if you've seen him fat Perez.
That was a guy. Fat Perez.
This is the one I love the most. Fat Perez.
Yes. He's amazing.
Okay. Fat Perez makes me laugh. So who is fat Perez?
Who?
By the way, it's hysterical to watch this go down and just because he really is.
There's so many moving parts still.
I don't want it.
That's why I'm so excited to have you.
And I didn't want to know any,
I didn't want someone to break it down for me properly
because then the authenticity is not there.
I'm loving just watching you go through this is awesome.
It's so fun.
Okay, so fat Perez, is he like your right hand?
Is he like your main guy?
So, or Joey Cole cuts the name.
Cole cuts I knew longer.
So, me and Cole cuts really started brilliantly dumbed together.
He was bringing, didn't start brilliantly dumb together,
but he helped ramp brilliantly dumb up
because he formed into this character.
So he wasn't like this before in real life.
No, he was.
That's the thing.
All of these guys, which is the craziest thing
and I think why it works is exactly what you see.
I mean, you could even ask, like, no, he's,
he's meant it's, it's all the exact thing,
and I think if we weren't, it wouldn't work.
But yeah, Colkuts is like this crazy Italian guy
who's a character, but the Joey Colkuts name,
like we built up, and then Fat Perez came aboard as well.
But Joe, to answer your question,
Joe was with me, like at the four seasons,
Fat Perez came a couple of years down the road. Okay, oh my gosh. Okay, but Joe, to answer your question, Joe was with me. Like at the four seasons, fat Perez came a couple of years down the road.
Okay, oh my gosh.
Okay, so what you say, like as a gaggle,
like is it kind of like the on-tourage crew?
Like you have turtle.
You have, you know, the whatever,
what age you're in Grenier,
what's his name, Vince, Vinnie,
who also was on this podcast.
But like, did you guys all have a character?
And you guys all kind of entourage together.
Like, do you guys do everything together?
Like build it together?
Like who does what?
Like are you the visionary?
Is this one the marketing?
Like tell me what people do.
Yeah, it's a good question.
Each of us, we all feed off each other
to where each guy brings a different part to.
Like for example, fat press is the wild party guy
yet at the same time
and we have the golf show he's an unbelievable golfer and so he actually can golf.
He's a Jenny's unbelievable and with all the respect to fat press and he would wear it,
he doesn't look like a guy who you would think would be an unbelievable golfer and he's
incredible.
Is he very overweight still?
He's was.
Yeah.
Yeah. No, I mean, look, his name is fat
for a reason. He owns it. I mean, he takes a lot of action. Yes. Yes. Yes. To answer your
question. Yes. He'll be the first to tell you. Okay. And again, he's like this in Nigma. You
watch him. He's an unbelievable golfer. Joe brings a little bit of a different to where he's
kind of like a crazy off the rails kind of lunate. So he's got a really rough temper
and he could just go off at any moment.
And then you have me who I guess kind of like keeps it all afloat
and I'm more of like the positive,
like keeping it all together in a way.
So like each guy it all kind of revolves around each other.
And then again, the beautiful thing is that everybody
is exactly what you see on it.
So we don't have to like, we don't have to act.
It's all the same thing.
It's unbelievable.
So then, so what do you guys do as a group then?
Like, how did you guys grow?
So you have this brilliantly dumb
and you're doing bits on Instagram.
Yeah.
Okay, are you on TikTok too?
I would imagine you would.
Yeah.
Okay.
And then how does it then like,
it's kind of butter like snowball?
Like how do you kind of grow?
Because you have this golf, you have like, then what?
Yeah, so during COVID,
so I was always doing like the comedy bits.
Like I wasn't even really playing a lot of golf.
The reason.
Do you know how to play golf?
I do, I'm not great,
but during COVID, me and Joe started playing golf
because Joe had been playing,
Joey Colt cuts had been playing golf for a while. I'm like, all right, I kind of want to get into it.
So we'd go out on the golf course and we would post these golf videos
right around covas when golf started to pop off.
So we noticed whenever I would put out a golf video, the numbers that it would do
would do three times the numbers as I would do with a lot of the other stuff that we were doing.
Right. Right. Right. Right. So I was like, all right, like I got to start playing golf a lot more.
So I started playing more and we started putting out golf content.
And then from there, we started Bob to sports.
Okay, so right, so then because of the golf success,
you're like, okay, we're going to do like,
is it like a separate handle Bob to sports or is a separate company?
Like what is it?
Yeah, so it's a company called doing things media
who has a really big platform and, right. And they own over her LA. Correct, yeah. Right. Yeah, yeah,'s a company called doing things media who has a really big platform and right and they own over heard LA correct
Yeah, right. Yeah, yeah, that's exactly right. So they're kind of all over and they have okay
Don't they own like they they're buying a lot of meme like a yes
They have meme pages they have like pages that you wouldn't even know that is theirs. They they're behind so they can build these shows up pretty fast
Okay
Wait, so when then what happens to your deal with the bro Bible guys, are you still with them?
No, so with bro Bible, it just,
it came to a point where I wanted to go on my own
and end up doing my own thing.
I felt like it was at the point where we definitely could.
What did they do for you though?
You said they gave you autonomy of what though?
Yeah, they were really good to me.
They brought different deals my way.
They funded a lot of what we were doing.
Oh, okay.
But it did come to the point, like they helped start my Patreon
and whatnot and as great as they were.
And I was doing what on Patreon.
So we would do these happy hours during COVID,
during we would do Zoom happy hours,
because we needed to find a way to bring more money
into the channel.
So for the people that listened to the Brindley Dumshaw,
we did an extra podcast a week where we would put it behind the paywall of
Patreon and then we would do these happy hours. And that's how we met fat Perez. That's
how you met fat Perez through those happy hours. Okay. So this Patreon is what my friend
Brett was telling me. Yeah. He was one of the first to like, that was amazing when you
told me that by the way. That's, that's OG. That's OG. That's what I'm saying. Like you
would not be sitting in that chair if it wasn't for him. You have to get this out.
Yeah, shout out, Brett. There you go. Shout out. Okay, so let me understand this. So here
you're like, okay, we're going to go on Patreon and then your Chargy people, how much to do
this? So at the time, there was different tiers. Okay. So there was a $20 tier, $9 tier,
and $5 tier. Would it get for $5 or $9?
$5 tier was the extra podcast.
Okay.
$9 is you would get the happy hour as well.
$20, you would get all of that,
and then be an executive producer on the show.
Which is more of like, and we let them know,
it's more of like a support thing.
Like what's crazy on Patreon, and I found a while,
like people will pay extra just to support you.
And like with our audience, it was so loyal
that there would be more $20 members
than you would probably think, which is pretty cool.
How many were there?
I don't know an exact number,
but it got to the point where it was pretty big.
So like these zoom happy hours that we would do,
and we would go all out in a minute.
Okay, we would run the podcast on there,
but we'd get hammered on there.
Like we would really let it rip
and get people like a behind the scenes of all of that.
I mean, there would be times
that there was over 100 people in one happy hour
and like, you know, you start to recognize
the faces on there and we would run the show on there.
So you had to have your like,
so what you guys are just all like drinking on hammered.
Yeah, we would go.
Hammered on Patreon.
You wish the people that paid to be.
So does that mean that they're like, does that mean like bread or whoever else was like
drinking on Zoom with you?
Yeah.
So that's even like with bread the way we found Perez was we were on one of these happy
hours and you're on Zoom.
So I would control the Zoom and I could see everybody up there and I see a guy in his
cubicle with the name.
You know, it has like the name.
Yeah. Yeah. It says fat Perez. a guy in his cubicle with the name, you know, it has like the name in it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It says fat Perez.
He's in his cubicle, so he's clearly working and he's chugging beers, Jen, like inhaling
beers and he's eating pizza.
And I'm like, who the hell is this guy?
So I brought him on and like he crushed it to where a lot of the names that came up came
from those happy hours or like it became like this die hard, loyal following
that translated and really helped kind of kick it off.
But, but-
I can't even believe I'm listening to this.
It's insane.
The whole thing is insane.
Do you have one female who follows you guys?
I wish.
Yeah, I do wanna up the female audience for sure.
Which are yellow.
It's 90, I actually saw it the other day.
It's 94% male.
Which I would like, like, look, it's great
because they sported with the golf and whatnot.
Would I like more females on there for sure?
But it's unbelievable.
And like the fact is, it's across the board.
It's from like 18 or 15 to like 100, like literally,
what is the demo?
Like, when you saw it.
I'd say the main demo is like 24 to 30,
but then again, like we were talking
even before the show.
We have people that are, you know, I do cameos.
Like I cameos are guys that are 45, 60.
Like my dad's friends love the show.
So I think what helps us a lot is we really do hit all
demographics, you know. And like do you have like how about socio-economic? Is it
like people who are educated, who are professional, who are like what is your
demo that way? The big thing which we've noticed that's really helped is the
golf world and the golf demographic tends to have a lot of money to spend.
Yeah. So like the demographics it's higher and like they can afford like you and the golf demographic tends to have a lot of money to spend. Yeah, that's right.
Like the demographics, it's higher and like they can afford,
like you know, when we come out with golf polos and stuff like that.
Well, we don't say that, yeah, I want, okay, I should have asked you that after that.
No, no, okay.
But yeah, but basically they, that demographic we've known really, really does help.
And of course, we'll take anybody, you know, that we can get.
But that's something that we've known to that golf world and that golf demographic
helps so much and it pays to really have that golf audience.
Well, you said that what happened was,
okay, so I was like getting excited
and getting ahead of myself,
but when you were with the other people,
they are helping you with the Patreon and all that stuff.
So like, okay, so then you have this Patreon,
all these different levels,
and then you decide to leave the bro Bible people.
Were you guys making enough money with Patreon? So it was that the Patreon's really what helped it.
Where I was like, I don't necessarily need
bro Bible to do this Patreon, but at the time,
and there's like another wrinkle into it,
I got an offer from a company who wanted to just have
the podcast where I could own the Patreon,
I could have all of my stuff to the side,
and they would solely just have me for the podcast and can help ramp me up for the podcast
Which one what company is that company called action park media action park media? Okay, yeah
And
Unfortunately when I got over there and they were willing to bring Jersey Jerry over and have him do that as well
So it meant a lot to me
But when we got there we realized pretty fast that it was not for us and it just wasn't what we had agreed upon and
It was the toughest thing I've ever had to do because I knew once I left there
I would lose Jersey Jerry because I didn't have the money to afford them all I had was the patreon on the side
Right, so I would lose the regular salary that I was getting from action park media
I knew I was gonna lose that and then the only income I had was Patreon and my editor as well
I knew I was gonna lose him because I didn't have the money to afford them
Right, but with that being said, I knew I had to get out of there and I knew I had to leave
So that was one of the toughest days. I think I've ever had is when I when I leave when I left and just knowing that a
That I had to leave but there's a chance that I lose Jersey Jerry and my editor who was really my right-hand man
because I didn't have money to pay him at the time.
So what happened then?
So you were now, but by the way, at this point,
you didn't have the Bob does sports, right?
No.
This was just brilliantly down.
Correct.
So then how did you, what did you do?
So I called the jet and I told them so right after
Jersey Jerry left we left action park media Dave comes Dave Porton and comes and snags Jersey Jerry right away. Okay. So Jerry's gone
Gone back. It is brutal because he was such a crucial parts of the show. So I lose Jerry right away. Oh, he's gone
And I don't blame him because I didn't have money to pay him. I wish I did. Did he try to get you again?
Dave Porton. No, not at that time. I think once did. Did he try to get you again? Dave Portnoy?
No, not at that time.
I think once with Dave, once I said no,
the first time that was kind of it.
Okay.
Jerry came back for and Jerry was gone,
which was a huge, huge blow for me.
And then I remember calling my editor the jet
and I was like, look, this is the situation.
Like, I need you bad.
Yeah, we call him the jet because he's so fast with clips.
Everybody's got a nickname.
Yeah, it's, it really. But's so fast with clips. Everybody's got a nickname. Yeah, it's really
But yeah, so I called them and I said look, I don't have the money to pay
I promise this thing is gonna pop off and when it does I will do right by it and whatever I got to do
Thank God for him because when when I called him and did that not only did you know a lot of people in that situation when they stopped
Then getting paid they would slow down on their work.
The jet believed in it so much that he ramped up.
The clips he was doing, he turned it,
he kicked it into another gear.
Really?
And then once he did that, he's like,
I'm gonna fly out to LA and I'm gonna stay with you
and we're gonna take this thing and really go all out.
So he came out with no money, nothing.
Wasn't being made, he was working for me for free.
And then... That's amazing. Yeah, it really is't being made, he was working for me for free.
And then-
That's amazing.
Yeah, it really is.
Oh man, I'm so thankful for him because I really did need him
and he's so good at what he does.
But for him to take that chance, come out to LA
when he's working for free.
And he just, he trusted me that I was gonna,
A, that the show would pop and B,
he knew that I would do right by him.
So I'm forever
loyal to him.
That's amazing.
And then how did it happen for you?
Then what happened?
So then...
So then there's a company that doing things media company, I reached out to, because I'd
been wanting to do something with them.
I knew the platform that they had.
So you knew of them already?
Yeah, but we can never work together, because I always had deals with Pro Bible or Action
Park Media to where it...
It never worked, yeah.
There was nothing we could have done.
So I finally called them and told them,
look, I'd love to do something with you.
What year were you talking?
Like give me the chronological of.
Little over a year.
So this is only a year ago.
Yeah, so Bob Disports, a lot of people don't realize
that Bob Disports has only been going for,
we started of September of last year.
So a year, a year and a half.
That is it.
It's crazy.
Yeah, it's crazy.
I'm glad I got you now, because you're gonna be so big
in like four years.
You're never gonna be-
I'm near regardless.
You would have never, you would have even answered
my text message in two years.
I would have said no to you, that ain't true.
I wouldn't say, I'd be here for you.
Oh my God.
By the way, I can see why people like you.
You are so likable.
You are so likable.
Like your energy is so lovely.
Appreciate it.
No, it's in your smile and it's like the cadence in your voice.
Like now I'll definitely come back.
You better come back.
I'm coming.
I'm in.
Okay.
Good because you have a very nice way about you.
Thank you.
So then how did you kind of like then what happens?
You call doing things media.
Yeah. But they owned like, they owned but they owned like
Okay, so they own like the over heard L.A.s and all those
Yeah, so they owe they have all these accounts. They've it they started a show called all gas no breaks, which was huge
So they've been dating one too
They they probably do recess therapies another one that they have that was that was that
That's really really big and then again
They have all these Instagram accounts is account's a kind of like shit head Steve drunk people
doing things. They have all these a crowd counter. Yeah, it's it's great. Yeah, that's literally
the name of the account. It has like millions of followers. There's another one that's similar.
It's not shit head Steve. It's another one that's out. It's like they get they have so
many. It's insane. But yeah, they they had the ability to really blow up the show.
So they funded the show, put everything into the show.
Okay, in what way?
When you say they funded the show,
it tell people what that means,
because I think that people don't understand that.
Like, are they giving you money for?
Yeah, so travel to go originally with Bob D'Asportz
was gonna be, it wasn't even gonna be a golf show.
It was gonna be me going to different stadiums
and these different games and kind of doing man
on the street type interviews
that like they're super bowl
and all these different events.
That's what it was gonna, oh, okay.
That's originally what it was gonna be.
And then what was your other friends do?
Like the cold cut guy in the back of the red.
He was still working at four seasons at the time.
And until like a year ago?
Yeah, so Joe, maybe just hit a year of being out of work. Oh my God. That Perez
Maybe just hit six months of being out of work and he's popped off and it's pretty crazy
But they also then the biggest thing was got the jet paid the editor. Yeah jet paid
So and then they would fund us to travel to all these different stadiums produce the show cameras everything
They funded all of that while also giving the platform
to blow it up to really get it out there.
How did they do it?
Like, what do they do marketing-wise?
Do they pay for digital ad spends?
Like, did they put a budget towards it?
Yeah, so they're so good to wear,
and they have such as big platform
that they promote it on all of their channels.
So they can really pop them off.
Like, should head Steve would promote it?
Should head Steve would promote it.
All of these different channels that they have with millions. Like, shit head Steve would promote it. Shit head Steve would promote it. All of these different channels that they have
with millions of followers, they would use to promote it.
And that's kind of,
Frost promote the stuff.
Yeah, all of it.
So that's kind of how they're able to pull a lot of it off.
And they would be promoting the brilliantly dumb
and the Bob does sport.
So what would they be doing?
Because brilliantly dumb was separate.
And that was something that I could do on the side.
All right, okay. Bob does sports is what they be doing. Because it's brilliantly done with separate, and that was something that I could do on the side. All right, okay.
Bob Desports is what they started together.
They bought it, yeah, and what they were investing into.
Okay, so if only Bob Desports.
Correct.
Yeah, and just have a day, the hat that you're wearing
and that I wore, and it's over there.
Yeah.
Is that only a Bob Desports thing, or is that a Robbie Burger thing?
Bob Desports thing.
It's a Bob Desports thing.
Yeah, okay.
So they have taken it to another. So So and when we started then doing a lot of
the golf stuff on Bob to sports, that's when we realized same thing with my videos prior,
like this is what's hitting the golf stuff. So we kind of just pivoted to doing just a golf
show. So even though it's Bob does sports, it's only golf. Yes. And it always will be
we're gonna we'll throw other stuff in there there But we almost kind of funny find it funny that like it's Bob to sports, but all we play is golf all you and I hurt
Okay, well get to that. I don't want to even I get myself so excited here. I'm not gonna even do that
Okay, so here is okay bob to sports the golf thing you now they're funding you to do all these things
Yeah, then what happens? So they're funding to do to do everything and it gets to a point where we start doing the golf content
that Joey Colt Cuts was literally,
he would come and he would film with us in the morning
for the golf.
And then he would at the golf course put on his suit.
So at that time then he changed over to Wolfgang Pocken.
He was the general manager of Wolfgang Pucks Restaurant
called Cut in Beverly Hills.
No.
Yeah.
So this guy is going and filming these ridiculous videos that we're doing, all these ridiculous
different videos, and then he would put on a suit and he would go work for Wolfgang
Puck.
And like, he caught it even more than me as far as it being kind of a conflict of interest
because Wolfgang Puck, it's a Michelin star restaurant, he's in charge of the restaurant
and he's, you know, people are coming in
asking for Joey cold cuts.
So I can't even believe this.
It was crazy.
So the show was popping off while he was still working
for Wolfgang's Duck.
And so he's working.
People are recognizing him.
Like, it's getting big.
Did people talk when he, when you guys were doing
your stuff, you know, together?
Did he mention that he also works at Cut?
Yeah. It just kind of had to come up because so much of what we did, know, together. Did he mention that he also works at cut? Okay.
Yeah.
It just kind of had to come up because so much of what we did, like, even when he would
come to the golf course, he'd be in a three-piece suit, like before he would tour.
Oh, my God.
It was, the whole thing was bizarre, but then doing things, the show was getting big enough
to it there.
I was like, look, I'd love to have Joe on full time.
He's a huge part of the show, and they didn't even hesitate.
And like, they, right out of the gate, they're like,
all right, we're gonna set up a salary for him.
And he was a little worried at the time
because even to call and tell his parents
and his parents are awesome.
And they're like very old school that like,
it's new to them.
They haven't really heard of such a media thing.
So that was tough form, but it was right out of the gate.
And then it just, he came on full time and anything that, with doing things,
anything that I suggested they took my word for it and they were willing to back with
dollars and just their full support on it and like their advice and guidance where they've
been so crucial to helping it all explode.
And they've never, they've never said no, they've really trusted me in decisions that I've wanted to make
And I just have such a good relationship with them that it's amazing
So where did breezy sport a breezy golf cup? That's the golf
Yeah, and you're doing it all over the country, right? Yeah, okay, so whose idea was that was that your idea?
So that was it was something that we always wanted to do and I had mentioned to them
But they were the ones who were able to get the pieces to do one of these golf tournaments.
As you know, your husband's the one who does it for us.
Now he's been awesome.
They were able to go and get like, no,
it'll help us execute it.
Cause like, we wouldn't have known what we were doing
to where like doing things did it.
Yeah, of course.
I mean, that's like a whole thing.
It's a whole thing.
So you had the idea, let's do a golf tournament
and then doing things like, oh, I have the break, I had the perfect person for you,
so to speak.
Yeah, it was something that we had talked about for a bit,
and then they had the perfect people and pieces in place to do it,
but then also, too, they have a sales team that you have to sell.
Like, Corona sponsors a lot of the breezy tournaments,
so they go out and they have their sales teams go and do that.
And again, it's something that if I tried to do it on my own,
there's no way I would have been able to do that.
So these sponsors, like the Corona Celsius,
I heard you have a massive Callaway deal.
Yeah.
Callaway as well.
Is that your deal?
Is it Bob does sports deal?
Is it like, who's deal is this?
Is this a breezy golf deal?
So yeah, it's a good question.
It's interesting how it works, because now we all
have our personal pages that are big and very golf oriented.
So could you have your pay?
We've got Robbie Berger, brilliantly dumb.
Yeah.
Breezy golf.
Breezy golf, the Bob D'Aespoorch, you have Joey
Coldcuts personal page.
Right, all those guys.
All of that.
So it all kind of works in and all falls
under the same umbrella to where
when deals come in
we're able to do
X amount of posts and whatnot for our personal channels
Kalloway gets a certain amount for the personal channels and then also
Bob's sports and then the Bob to sports team does a really good job
Which is doing things of kind of funneling that all in and making all of that work putting the pieces in place to where they're able to go out and
And get these deals for us.
So like the Callaway deal is not just with you,
it's with cold cuts, fat parrots, all you guys.
Yeah, across the board.
And so you get like a lump sum of money
and then it has to be dispersed amongst all of you.
Yeah.
So you yourself don't have like a deal,
like you're not the Callaway guy.
Like I feel like you guys all like a team,
like in terms of like, or is there anything
where it's just now you yourself as well?
Yeah, so like me and doing things,
maybe it started the show together,
so we have certain ownership in the show.
But yeah, it all funnels throughout everybody.
So I think the coolest thing for me seeing
between Joe and in fact, President,
they left their job and even the Jett editor, of course naturally they were worried.
I mean, Joe had a good salary at a Wolfgang and so to Perez and these guys that they were
a little worried.
It's like, we're going to go do this.
Like, I don't know if I necessarily can go back to that after to watch them reap the
benefits from it and see how great and see the money that they're making now to me is the most reward.
It's literally the coolest thing. Okay, so I have to ask you and you could be like kind of cagey
if you want, but like how much money you guys making around. You could be like kind of, you can
give me like a range. You don't have to be like exactly 1.7 million dollars. Like what's a kind of
money you're making now? It's, I'll tell you this, it's more than I could have ever imagined.
Are we talking nine figures, seven figures?
What are we talking?
It depends, I would say, it varies.
I think as the years go on, it's definitely going higher and higher to where I think.
All the years has been like two years.
Yeah, I know.
Yeah, I know.
A year.
What kind of car are you driving now?
Where are you living now?
I don't think I mean the exact address.
Like how is your life changed?
Yeah.
Literally, like two years ago.
To be honest with you Jen,
so I have a car that I like my parents passed down to me.
It's a Lexus.
It's one of the older Lexuses, but I like it.
And you know what it gets me for me to be?
I'm not a big car guy.
So I don't need a crazy car.
I love that.
Good for you.
I'm pretty simple, but the only things
that I really like spending my money on and I'm not a big fashion guy is you could probably see. No, I love that. Good for you. I'm pretty simple, but the only thing that I really like
spend my money on, and I'm not a big fashion guy,
as you could probably see, is this OK?
Yeah, you look like you're like a golfer, actually.
There you go.
Yeah, I like your shoes, although, you know, clean.
No, they're great.
I was going to say, like, you should get a shoe sponsor now.
That'd be nice.
I like your hood.
I like your hood a lot.
I like your hoods a lot.
Of course.
So what I do there.
Yeah, it's, but it's all, I'm simple. Food, I love food. We're here to do that. Of course. So what I do there. Yeah.
Bobby.
But it's all, I'm simple food.
I love food.
I love going out to dinner.
So I love spending my money on going out to dinner.
You're a man after my own heart.
Okay.
So what's your favorite restaurant?
There's a restaurant in Hollywood called Reos.
It's an Italian restaurant.
Of course.
They have a host, the sauce.
It's a very popular place.
Oh, I love it.
Do you do the sauce?
Do you buy the sauce? I love the sauce. They're the best. Do you not buy the sauce? You must buy the sauce. It's a very popular place. Oh, I love it. Do you do the sauce? Do you buy the sauce? I love the sauce. Do you not buy the sauce? You must buy the sauce.
I buy the sauce the problem is I don't cook much.
Yeah.
Often I spend all my money.
Yeah, I'm single to where.
I'm going to ask you. So you're single.
Mm-hmm.
So this is interesting because here you are, you're popping off,
but on for guys. Do girls even know who you are?
It's, again, I would love the girl demographic to go up for guys. Do girls even know who you are? It's, again, I would love the girl demographic
to go up for sure.
But like even so, like you're,
like if you're walking down the street,
guys would be like, oh my God, I love him, he's great.
But would a girl even have a clue of who you are?
One side to me now, I guess.
I would say once Bob Disports started, yes.
Brilliantly dumb, not as much once Bob Disports, we yes. Brilliantly dumb, not as much.
Once Bob Disports, we've noticed
that the female audience definitely did grow.
A lot of it is girlfriends of guys
that get cameos from your, what not the AC?
So they follow along, but definitely more so
over the last year.
Cameos, a big thing for me too, is well
to work their girlfriends by cameos from me, which is a big thing.
How much Cammity Camio's are you doing a week?
I do about 25 to 30 Camio's a day.
So I was,
Are you serious?
Yeah, yeah.
I don't, yeah, so there was a few times
where I was number one on Camio to wear it.
I make a big thing out of cameo of like people coming in and
But so I'd I'd been leading cameo for a while to wear a lot of them and I got to take to the math
Yeah, how much you charge for a cameo? So it's a $95 a cameo, but 95 times 30 okay, but day
So you're making just three grand a day about just on these little cameos well
So the thing is that's the $95 one, but there's a thing where if like say you forgot
about your boyfriend's birthday or whatever,
there's a 24 hour request to where I have to get back
to you in 24 hours.
So that's 95 plus, so that's 150%.
So 95 plus, it ends up being like 150,
around 150 for what they charge for that.
So not every cameos 95, some of them are 150.
Yeah.
So wait, so because you could make your own prices
on cameo, because yeah.
And then what's the, is that cheap for cameo?
I feel like it is.
It is, everybody tells me to go up, but you know what?
I don't mind doing them.
It takes me a little bit to do them,
like the, because it's a lot per day.
But I'm like, yeah, it's pretty crazy. Cameo's cameo's a big thing for me to wear. I because it's a lot per day. But I'm like, yeah. Yeah, it's pretty, it's pretty crazy.
So cameos cameos, a big thing for me
to where I fire on that a lot.
You know it's funny.
So I should really give you $95
because I asked you to do a cameo type for my friend.
I'm sure that you're, that's a, that's a full comp
for me. You're having me on the pot.
Thank you. I appreciate that.
So wait a second.
So just on that alone, you're making that kind of,
like you're making a lot of money.
Do your friends fat parades, cold cut, Joey cold cuts?
Yeah.
Well, are they doing that many a day also with Camille?
No, but they don't push it as much.
You push it a lot.
I do, like I make a big thing out of it to where like,
I think they could, you know, like fat parades
gets Camille's all the time.
A lot of times he just like, I don't know, like it's not necessarily.
He doesn't really like enjoy doing it too much.
Yeah.
I think he could, but they don't, they don't push it as much as I would.
Okay.
So then do you have it your own manager or do you an agent?
Yeah.
You do.
Who's your manager?
Who's your agent?
So my manager is a guy named Cameron Cattison who at the time he, he has his own company.
He has like his own
management company, Mortar LA media, Mortar LA.
But he was a friend of my cousin who works at the hotel.
So when he originally, when Dave Porton came to me, he was kind of doing it for me as a
favor.
And, you know, he's kind of like family to where we're very close to him.
But he has all these big clients to where
he wasn't making any money off me.
Yeah, it wasn't, but then as time grew,
now it's a different ball game to where I'm like,
and he's been with me from day one.
Right.
But yeah, they answered your question.
I mean, as much as like two years ago, day one.
Yeah, that's exactly right.
Yeah, day one started in like 2020.
Exactly, 2020, right? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, right around COVID. Yeah, a whole lot of areas. Okay, who's exactly right. Day one started in like 2020. Exactly, 2020 right.
Yeah, right around COVID.
Yeah, a whole lot of areas.
Okay, who's your agent then?
So I actually, I just recently
have been looking into possibly doing agents.
So I don't have an agent as of right now.
So right now, she's manager, lawyer,
and then a business manager,
which is who's been awesome.
And I never knew that I would need something like that,
but that's something to me that was the most eye-opening thing
for me of anything.
So then how much, when someone comes to you
for a sponsorship deal, what is your range now?
Of what all?
I know when Dex was free.
Yeah, full comp, just like your candy.
Just like my candy.
That's exactly right.
Exactly.
So if I was a company, how much would I have to have
Approximately to like get you on board. It depends because with depends on the deliverables
Yeah, well, we've done so a lot of like prior
It was I would do like a lot of one-offs like one post
Per Instagram like one post and that ended up getting to like $20,000 for for post
Yeah, and but now what we've tried to do,
which I've really preferred more is we've had companies
where we do like a year-long deal.
And we find that both the company gets more out of it,
we enjoy doing it more, we get more out of it as well.
To where we've done that.
And then there's been deals too,
where I have certain equity in different companies.
And that's something that I love doing now
is somewhat smaller companies are on the come up,
being able to get equity into it
and really feel like you're a part of it.
Totally.
Totally.
Totally.
Totally.
Which ones are you involved with?
So the one big one was prize picks,
which is like a gambling style company.
Like far still less, you're doing the whole,
you're following in there footsteps.
There you go.
You're picking up what I'm putting down.
I've picked it up a long time ago.
Exactly. You really are.
I'm like kind of following your vibe.
You got your finger on the pulse.
I do have my finger on the pulse.
So by the way, does that mean that David Portnoy
after you said he didn't come back to you
when he came back for Jimmy?
Was he named Jimmy?
Jersey Jerry.
Did he come back to you recently again
since now you're at another level
or he just is not even bothering?
No, he has bothered.
I think at the same time too, I think he kind of, again.
He sold most of it, I think, at this point.
Yeah, I mean, he's, he's at a point now too
where he's so well off to where like,
he's not looking at you guys like that.
Yeah, I think he kind of, I don't even know if he does. I mean, he probably does somewhat of the hiring, but like, he's made his mark to where like he's not looking at you guys like that. Yeah, I think he kind of I don't even know if he does.
I mean, he probably does somewhat of the hiring, but like he's made his mark to where like
I think he's very happy to where he's at.
And then at the same time too with Bob to sports, it's kind of like my it's my thing now.
Like it's my baby.
Like it's my company.
So wouldn't really make sense for me to go over to a different, you know, company.
But who would but like if it strategically But if strategically, you would think sometimes,
they would want to do a merger.
Because I think, this is my opinion,
I think that you're going to grow to be that level.
Like you're going to be the new bar stool.
I'm for sure.
Now that I've met you, I totally get it.
I get it.
Especially with the whole cast of characters,
you can have so many brand extensions. Yes, especially with the whole cast of characters, you can have like so many brand extensions.
You know, like, yes, you're doing the golf right now, but I can see once that like hits and you're doing all that,
then you can start like rolling out so many other things, you know?
You should be smiling here to here.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because you know what I'm saying is true.
I, I, I, you're doing it. Yeah, I definitely, I really do.
I feel that.
I really do.
I think what we do is it's definitely different
and I think it's definitely unique.
But at the same time too, and we were talking about a prior,
every one of the guys and myself included,
it's still so surreal to us.
And I don't think we're ever going to lose that.
And all the guys really stay very humble about it. And like, I don't think I'll ever get lose that. And all the guys really stay very humble about it.
And like, I don't think I'll ever get tired
of meeting fans or stuff like that.
Like we legitimately love what we're doing
to where it didn't matter how much we're getting paid.
And I really mean that.
And I think with that being said, it'll just help us.
And that's what's help us grow and grow and grow that I think.
And I hope that people see that we're just having so much fun.
And a lot of it, we don't even know,
we were winging it from the start
and just throwing stuff on the wall
and seeing what worked and yeah, that's cool.
Like even with this breezy golf thing, right?
So now you're doing what?
How many cities are you,
is it a joke of a golf tournament
or is it a real golf tournament?
I still don't even know is this spoof?
It's no, is it like a catty?
I feel like it's very catty shack as.
Yeah, so like, it's like a golf term,
but it's not, it's not like crazy competitive.
It's much more people coming to have a good time
with the fan base and all of us.
Like who gets invited?
Can I go?
Can anyone go?
So it's tickets get sold out.
So it's a ticket cell of people that can come and go.
So how many people?
Give me an example.
Give me an example.
So for example, we had the first one we did,
and we didn't know, we had no idea how it was gonna work.
We didn't know if it'll do well or not.
We really didn't know.
It was $750 a person, and the total amount of people,
I wanna say was $144, and we had no idea,
and look, we totally understood that that's high.
Like, it's not easy for people to spend $750,
not including the airfare that they got to get,
hotels, all that.
Where was the first one?
First one was in Miami.
Yeah, I am.
So I was really, really, I was really worried about that.
And like, again, just at that price point
and doing things media really said they're like,
look, for everything in the way that the tournament's
gonna run, they're like, we promise you,
people are going to get their money's worth.
And Noah, with what he was able to do, they're like, people are going to get their money's worth.
Mark our words on it. I took their word for it. We sold it, sold out in 20 minutes.
That's why I heard 16 minutes. I heard. Yeah, but it's 16 sounds better than 20.
Yeah. So, are you rounding up?
Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, 16. You'd be like a learner, PR mode.
Like, what are you doing? It was 16 minutes.
It was 16 minutes. Yeah, like, what have been 15?
That's very, maybe.
Could have been.
I mean, listen, that's very Justin Bieber-esque.
Like, that's like selling out, like,
Justin Bieber concert sold out in like four minutes.
I think it was.
Crazy.
But like, you're selling out, I mean, yeah,
granted, not as many tickets.
Yes.
But it's still a little different.
A little different.
Yeah.
But still, like, that still says something.
It's crazy.
And then the craziest thing that the most rewarding thing was,
okay, even after you sell out the tickets,
I'm still worried because I'm like,
are these people that are spending their money?
And a lot of them that saved up just to be able to do this,
are they gonna get the most out of it?
And when we did the Miami one,
from the time we did the run-through,
we did the walk-through, I was like, okay, I get it.
Really?
Open bar, food, sponsored by Corona,
there's drinks everywhere that you go.
Is everyone just trashed the whole time?
It is a fucking blast.
And yes, people are, by the time you're done with it,
because mind you, the golf is four hours,
little over four hours, there's an award ceremony
when people win awards and different drivers and clubs.
It was the most rewarding thing I think I've ever done
to see all of that come together
and all the nerves that were brought into it.
Wow.
Yeah, I went after to know and give them
the biggest hug I said thank you so much.
It was the coolest thing.
And so that's, again, he's saying that it was very successful.
It was unbelievable.
And you guys are doing all,
hey, how many more are coming up though?
So we're going to try and roll out as many as we possibly can.
We have one that we're announcing soon that's coming out in June.
And we want to keep these things going on.
So with the breezy, it's crazy.
It's crazy.
It's the tournaments as well as the apparel.
So we saw golf polos, sweatshirts, the one that I'm wearing now.
So it's the apparel.
And then we call it breezy for the breezy, twern, and some selection.
You like it?
Yeah, that's actually a breezy one?
It's a breezy one.
You're good to me, Jen.
You're really good to me.
I'm good to get your sweatshirt.
I thank you very much.
I'll wear it for sure.
A couple more hats on the sweatshirt.
Yes, so then the hat, those hats must be selling well.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay, now that hat is a, that's not breezy. That's a bob hat. Yeah, that's exactly right
So that's sports bob does sports. Yeah, that is okay
So how do you define like you have a different percentage and breezy than you do in like bob
Yeah, so the bob does sports is it is there's so much I
I believe realize yeah, there's so much much of a as everything is, there's so much that goes into it.
It's unbelievable.
You know, it's funny before you even tell me
what your deal structure is that normally
when things are complicated and like too many pieces,
it like fails because people get confused
and they don't know what's what.
But for whatever reason, it's not happening over here.
It's a credit to we have the right people in place,
like the doing things media.
They are, we have such a good relationship with them.
And I think a lot of these deals that you have, a lot of them end up falling through,
like you said.
And there's so much that goes into it.
And with the guys, they're so unselfish and everybody's so, it's such a close-knit group
that I think all of it, although you have different hiccups and challenges, it really, really
works.
That's amazing.
Okay. So then what's your percentages and all the, not, you know,
give me a, yeah.
So well, with Bob Disports, it was a 50, 50 thing.
And then there's so much to get into like the breezy thing
and the apparel and all of that, that there's
so much to put in and doing things funded, all of that
to where, for me, breezy is is 20%. Of that, of breezy.
And how about the other guys, cold cut, fat parés,
do they own a piece of this?
So another great thing with doing things,
they want them to be a part of it.
So as do I, that's a very meaningful thing for me
to have those guys be into it and really be bought.
And they're so bought in as is now,
but you know it's best for everybody involved,
myself included that if I give some of my percent,
they give some of their percent to the guys.
It helps everybody.
So we're in talks now to get everybody a piece of it,
which will be the happiest day of my life when that happens.
Oh my gosh.
Okay, so then, how about the girl,
like to say back to the girl situation.
Sure.
You said like, you don't have a huge girl demo, obviously.
Yeah.
But girls are now because of the Bob Dessboards,
blah, blah, blah.
So then you're not dating. I thought you had a have a huge girl demo obviously. But girls are now because of the Bob D'Aespoir's, blah, blah, blah.
So then you're not dating.
I thought you had a girlfriend.
I saw somewhere online.
I did, yeah.
I saw that online.
It's amazing that that's online by the way.
Can you believe it?
I saw that recently, by the way.
That's what I saw too.
And they put like what, like when we split,
and that was wild.
Because you're like famous now.
It's crazy. That was nuts. See, I feel like. Because you're like famous now. It's crazy.
It was nuts.
See, I feel like yes, you're so humil-
You have so much humility now,
but I really hope you stay this way.
You stay your voice, but it doesn't happen very often.
Yeah, yeah, I mean, you see
with a lot of people where it doesn't,
but I'm confident that it-
Your confidence is going to stay?
That it will, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, okay.
I don't see it ever changing,
because I think once you lose that,
you're done, you're toast.
Yeah, yeah. Because part, I'm telling you don't see it ever changing. Cause I think once you lose that, you're done. You're toast. Yeah.
Cause part, I'm telling you, your likability is your,
like this whole, the humility thing is like,
yeah, if you lose that, that's it.
I just feel like you're done after that.
And the people will see that.
And then we won't have as loyal of an audience as, as we do.
Because I think it's like kind of funny how you,
you can tell like you're like, how the hell is this going on?
Like you're like just as shocked as everybody. It's true. We really are. It's
it's and you can imagine the guys who were so recently just out of their jobs like Joey Colgaz
and Prez they still can't wrap their it's it's surreal. It's crazy. Yeah. Okay. So then when you go
like a tell me what the girl situation. Sure. Are you dating a lot of girls then and you're not
you don't have a girlfriend. Do you want a girlfriend or you don't want a girlfriend because
why would you at this point? Yeah. Like tell me what kind of girls do you you're not, you don't have a girlfriend, you want a girlfriend or you don't want a girlfriend because why would you at this point?
Like tell me what kind of girls do you like, give me all that.
So the girl that I was dating prior, she was very much, she was into the influencer type
thing.
She was a golfer.
And she was a golfer.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So she was big and she was awesome and it was really interesting to me.
How would you guys date for like a year?
A little over a year.
Okay.
Yeah. and it was
it was definitely probably the most serious girlfriend that that I've had, but what was interesting to
me and it ended up not working out, but to see the fans get behind us the way they did it, because
she was in a lot of the content and a lot of the podcasts that we did and we were very compatible.
So I think a lot of the fans really got behind us and enjoyed us. And I know a lot of them thought we were getting married and whatnot
They really got behind it. It's great. And we ended on very good terms. Thanks.
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To be completely honest with you, I think from my, from my side and she might tell you something
different, but I think she would agree with this.
I am honest to got him obsessed with what I'm doing and I think she was at a stage where
she really wanted to have a family and, and move in and speed things up understandably
so.
She was a little bit older than me, which I told her.
How old is she?
She was three years older than me.
Okay.
So at the time, she was 31, 32, I was 28, 29.
Yeah, you were like, yeah, I can totally understand.
Yeah, and she would be so good with that,
so I really did.
I thought that that would be the Ralphress,
but I was so into what I was doing that I wasn't ready
to make that step.
And she understood that, you know, 100%.
She understood it and it just was best.
Like I didn't want to hold her back because she wanted to go off
have a family and what not.
And I wasn't there yet.
And I just think over time I got there.
And I felt that we had so much to do on Bob D'Aesports.
And that was like, yeah.
Literally addicted to that
and like it just, I wasn't there yet.
And so we just both knew that it would be best to split up.
With that being said, the craziest thing for both of us
and we still talk, so we still talk about it till this day.
How you do?
We could not believe the response as far as like when we broke up,
it was like a public, I couldn't wrap my head around that,
like people messaging us all the time,
you know, where's Lauren?
People would be messaging you.
Really?
Yeah, it was wild to us.
Yeah, and we would like, we would talk about it.
We still talk about how crazy that is
and we still get messages what happened
because they were really bought into it.
Invested, they were invested in the relationship.
Yeah, it was, we really did.
We had a really great, I have nothing but good things
to say about her.
And I could see why people really got behind us because we did the same stuff.
She came on the show.
She was amazing on the show.
Gorgeous girl, but it just didn't work out.
So then what kind of girls do you date or do you like to date?
What's your type?
To be honest, what I noticed from that, the thing that I would definitely do differently
is, and again, it's nothing to get in, but I would prefer to date somebody that isn't necessarily in, like,
I wouldn't be as public in it, and isn't necessarily in the same field that I'm at.
So, I like somebody who very motivated, has their own thing going as well.
Yeah, totally.
And then, at the end of the day, you're able to come together and do things, and I think
it's the healthiest thing to have that. So, I like girls with
with a lot of passion, a lot of drive for what they're doing, because I know how driven I am
and in what I'm doing. And I think it really works that way. I love Latinas.
I heard you say that on the three minutes I live into some like silly thing. I was
with some interview you were doing, told you before.
You said latinas, you just love latinas.
What do you like about it?
The fiery personality.
There's a little fire behind it for sure.
I just find them very, to be very, very attractive.
In what way?
I love the latina look.
I know, part of the look, I want you to say it.
What do you like?
I guess you could say like the darker complexion,
does that make sense?
It makes sense to me.
Does it?
Yeah.
It makes sense, right?
Yeah.
It makes sense to me.
The darker complexion, and like you said, they have fire
to me.
And the biggest thing too, I notice the teens are very
family oriented.
Do you disagree?
Yes.
No, I don't know.
I don't disagree or agree.
I'm like, I don't know. I feel like are they? Because I don't know, I don't disagree or agree. I'm like, I don't know.
I feel like are they because I don't know.
I know the ones that I've met you know.
Yes, very family oriented from what I've seen,
which is a big thing for me,
because I'm very family oriented.
Right, because they're Italians and Jewish people
are family oriented.
Yeah, I should say that there's not a,
there's not necessarily a race that you could say
isn't very family oriented. Well, there family or maybe who are not as fam but you know Indian
Asian there's a lot of very family Indians are very very very much so I mean so it's not I don't think that's why
Necessarily you like the Latino you think it's a look I maybe like, are you more, do you like more voluptuous,
do you like more skinny?
Like what's your look that you like?
I know you said darker complication.
I'd say in between,
I'd say in average size.
Yeah, a short tall.
Could be either.
You there?
Yeah, could be either there.
I think more than anything, Jen,
when push comes to shop at the end of the day,
it's the look.
The look, the Latino look.
Even since, you know, I was even in high school and stuff,
all of my friends would always go for like the popular,
I lived in a very growing up in New Jersey,
it was like a very suburban neighborhood
in high school and whatnot,
and all of my friends would go for like the big like popular girls.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The American popular girls,
and I would always go for the Latina girls to really kind of had my own market
Yeah, let them you know hash it out over over the
Yes, yes, you had your own niche that you liked right? Yeah, there's a time in everyone's life when you wake up in the morning
Take that first sip of motor oil out of that old mug steer out the window and realize it's time to upgrade your vehicle That's so, and a girl that you were dating was not like she was a blonde girl. Yeah. Yeah.
So that it was it was different than than what I but but she had such a good personality on her
band. So you're like, I'll just do it this time. Yeah. Yeah. So it's pretty girl. She had an
amazing family and yeah, just we were so she got she really understood me. She understood me
better than a lot of people
I think which really made me like her a lot yeah, but everyone likes to be understood right she got it
Like she really did she really really got and she was so good about letting me do
My thing and understanding it and then she also was a great cook too. Oh, yeah
It's good to probably wonder why we broke up. That's gonna say she sounds, oh, Dator.
She sounds pretty good to me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
She sounds great.
So, okay, so now we covered that.
What else, okay, Breezy Golf, we get that.
Is there something that I haven't asked you
that is kind of a part of your thing
that I, like a big chunk that I missed?
I mean, I think you've.
You don't have a water deal, I know that. No, but I like what I got going here. Okay, that's good. Yeah, like that I missed. I mean, I think you've. You don't have a water deal. I know that.
No, but I like what I got going here.
Okay, that's good.
Yeah, maybe that'll work.
Maybe it'll go figure something out.
I like where your head's at a lot.
Yeah, I like that.
So you basically have Callaway in Celsius.
You have Corona.
And Draft Kings?
You've got Draft Kings too.
Yeah, Draft Kings, Corona, Celsius.
You said you have a little bit of,
you know, a piece of that company picks something. Yeah
I've priced picks as well which there is this like daily fantasy sports so there is a little bit of a difference between
Draft King similar no doubt about it but but different and not that you can make money from both. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Got it. Okay. You know that works too. What other ones?
That's the cameo of course is a big thing not a not a big one not an ad deal but cameos a big one
Yeah, that's basically that's all nothing else. I see there's more deals that come in through
Bob to sports I had chilies that a few things with chilies. I can totally see that like that's so your area
I love I'm obsessed with food. I
Obsessed I that's okay, I agree.
Why don't you have a food line?
Why don't you create your own food line?
That would be something that I would love to do,
and I'm just gonna throw this out there, maybe I'm wrong.
I feel like you're a really good cook, like healthy food.
Very healthy.
Yeah.
I had a feeling.
I could cook healthy.
Yeah.
I just felt the need to throw that out.
No, no, I appreciate that.
I felt that.
I appreciate you for noticing those things.
Yes.
Thank you.
I love food to wear, wear an ideal sponsorship for me,
especially being from Jersey.
Yeah.
I wanted a Jersey Mike sponsorship more than anything.
Be perfect.
Okay, that would be,
well, how come your agent or manager,
the family friend is not working on that?
That would be perfect for your breezy golf tournament.
They can basically provide Jersey Mike sandwiches.
That would be a dream come true. That's right, That's how I could get yes absolutely and I hope he's
listening to this right now. No, I think that's like I actually think that's actually a possibility.
I think so. Is nobody working on these things? I've done a couple posts for Jersey Mike's not
for them. They didn't ask you to do it. Are you pretending again? Like I wouldn't. It's kind
of a windex thing that I do that to where I put out a put.
So what you should be doing is subway, so then Jersey Mike's comes for you.
I kind of like that even more.
The problem is and not to bash him, but I'm going to subway food.
Let's call space.
Bade is terrible.
Terrible.
It's dope.
Oh, it's terrible, but you can do it.
It's awful.
It also, I feel like it got worse over time.
I totally agree with you.
Really?
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and if you want to, I'm gonna call you out on it.
Don't you, don't you worry.
I wouldn't be saying that if I was.
Yeah, just, I find like, it's like one of these fast food
companies that is under the guise of being healthy,
which is so not healthy.
Like, their tuna is all mayonnaise,
with like maybe like a sparkle of like tuna fish in there.
That's not even tuna. They can fool you too. There's so many companies that fool me to where I
actually think that I'm eating something healthy. A hundred percent. But I'm not. You know what I mean?
Totally. That's a hundred percent. I totally agree. Yeah. What do you eat? Like give me the day
in the life of you, Bobby. You're not going to be. You're not going to be. You're not going to be. I swear, increment. Why do I keep
what's thinking of like Will Farrell
from increment? I don't know why.
I like, I'll take it. I'll take it.
I've done a bad one. You're not going to like this.
Because it's not the most healthyest stuff, but like I'm a huge
bagel guy. So usually start my magic.
I heard you like bagel and lux and cream cheese.
I heard that already. I love it.
Yeah, bagels are my thing.
Where do you get your bagels and lux and cream cheese from? Tough to find it out I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it.
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It's a, K-4, so they have like a million different
like fresh bagels every day.
And then you could pick your, if you're into this,
like they make their homemade cream cheese is
and then you get the locks, you don't like that.
I love that.
Okay.
Oh, I love that.
It's called New York Bagel.
It's called New York Bagel.
Is it Brooklyn Water Bagel by chance?
No, it's New York, it's called New York Bagel.
New York Bagel, okay. And it's a bagel by chance? No, it's New York. It's called New York bagel. New York bagel, okay.
And it's a bagel, it's a breakfast place, basically across, do you know where front runners
is and that little small, it's right there?
No, I'm telling you, anytime somebody gives me a bagel recommendation, I take that.
Yes, okay, it's called New York bagel, I promise you.
I'm going to be honest with you if I like it or not.
No, I'm telling you better tell me this for you.
You can handle the honesty.
Do I look like I can't? No, not by any means. I know you can. I know. I'm sure be honest with you if I like it or no, I'm telling you better tell me this you can handle the honesty Do I look like I can't no not by any means I know you can I don't damn well
You can exactly come on so that's the one I would suggest okay, so you love bagels
Mm-hmm. So where have you found one you said here that you like besides the one I do of course mine will be your new favorite pop
Pop's bagels is amazing. There's a place called courage bagels. That is really good
Where's pop you said in Brentwood popwood? Popps is in Brentwood.
Where in Brentwood is that one?
I don't think I'm so bad, like...
In direction.
The worst.
You were a guest services guy at the hotel.
I know, why would you...
I would send them to Consciers.
Oh.
That's exactly, I would send them right to the Consciers, that's exactly.
And then I'm a big pizza guy.
I love pizza.
Yeah, I... Which kind of pizza do you like? I like the regular, like, I love it. And then I'm a big pizza guy. I love pizza. Yeah.
Which kind of pizza do you like?
I like the regular like New York slice.
Yes.
And I like the places that sell pizza by the slice.
You do.
Where?
Vitos, or Flosie Enigas, one of my favorites.
Okay.
I love Vitos.
Prinsory pizzas really good.
Joe's is really good.
Joe's is good, yeah.
But so many places, my issue with the dough gen,
so many places, and it seems to be an L.A. thing, New York, New Jersey, Joe's is good, yeah. But so many places, my issue with the Doge and so many places,
and it seems to be an LA thing, New York, New Jersey,
that's the beauty of it.
They don't do it by the slice.
Like you have to get a pie, which, to me, growing up,
I'd always, for lunch, anywhere throughout the day,
you stop somewhere, you grab a slice.
You can get one at like Mulberry, though, can't you?
Yes, you can, Mulberry's another good one.
Yeah, it has to be fresh, though.
Yes.
That's the problem. It's sitting there, it doesn another good one. Yeah. It has to be fresh though. Yes.
That's the problem.
It's sitting there.
It doesn't taste good.
No, it's got to be fresh.
Yeah, pizza is a big thing and I always go out to dinner.
Okay, so besides that one restaurant, where are all
Raios you said, where else you like?
Raios, I absolutely love.
There's a steakhouse in Beverly Hills.
It's an older school one called Grill on the Alley.
Oh, my God, I love the grill. Is it not unbelievable?
Amazing.
I love it.
They do a big power lunch too.
A huge power, by the way, that was a place to go for lunch,
back when.
Yes, yeah.
Is it still?
They have such like an older, it's like an older Beverly Hills
crowd.
Every time I go on the youngest guy in there for sure.
Oh, yeah.
But I love it.
So I go there all the time.
I love their sourdough bread too. Yes, yes. So you are there all the time. I'm sourdough bread to yes
Yes, you are big on the grill. Yeah, I love it. It's it's so good. So I love steak
I love steak. I don't necessarily eat very healthy, but I was telling the good thing
I try and even it out by working out that's good
Well, they thought that if you don't have like I am a big protein person
You just like the pit like the greasy potatoes
I know when I always gotta do the sides Oh, yeah, that's the part I like the greasy potatoes. I know when I always
gotta do the sides. Oh yeah, I have to do it. I have to. I can't say no. I know it's
hard. Yeah. But you gotta, if you gotta like do swaps, like if you're gonna have this,
then you can't have that. Fair. You know, fair. Or like looking for it for in the morning,
then you said you work out now. So what is your like day to day? You wake up at what time
you eat? What? I want to know, I want to know your habits for the day out now. So what is your day to day? You wake up at what time, what, I wanna know your habits for the day.
Yeah, so lately what I've been doing,
I've been working out for a while.
I do that class.
I was telling you about F-45.
F-45, yeah.
So I wake up at about 6.30.
I go to sleep really early.
I'm kind of, I'm a very old soul.
I love, maybe that's why I like you.
You don't seem 30.
You seem like you're in your 40s.
Yeah, I'm an old soul.
I really am.
I go to bed at like 9.30.
Yeah, I'm out early.
My friends know too, like if they try and get me out.
I'm happy.
And they used to feel bad.
Like, you know, they would guilt trip me.
Totally.
They know now, and when I say no, I'm just not going.
I'm not going.
Good, too.
Are you a drinker that not really kind of?
I am.
When we go out to dinner, I could have dinner
and sit at the table and drink all night.
Like I love that. So yeah, I am a drinker on the golf course for sure, but I don't like I'm not a big party or I don't I don't you're not a party.
No, I'm done with the clubs.
Good for you.
Yeah, just I don't I don't know it doesn't you.
You're so menchie I love you. Okay, okay. I'm just I'm like loving you. I see it so much. I see it. I see why all these people like you
Thank you. I keep on saying that come back here anytime. I feel good. I swear it's so true though. I like I'm like in my head
I'm like this guy is so likeable. Thank you. Now I appreciate that smile. It's like my veins. Yeah, it's smile
It's amazing. You're smile. Thank you. Okay. So you wake up, so you go to bed at 9.30, then what?
Yeah, I go to bed at 9.30, I wake up at about like 6.30.
Okay.
And then immediately go to F-45.
Yep.
Which one do you go?
Not too.
No, no, no, no, you're fine.
There'll be a whole like a little bit.
There's one in Hollywood that I go to.
Okay, I used to live on the building above it,
so I used to just walk down there.
Now I moved, so I still, right now I'm in West Hollywood.
You know the same thing else, West Hollywood.
Yeah, yeah, thank you.
I appreciate that.
Yeah, thank you.
Okay. Good save.
I'm right at number 24, so you said it.
You lost the end of God.
Yeah.
No, but so I'll wake up, I'd go to the gym right away.
And now it's at the point where I go so much that,
if I don't, I mean, I'm sure, you know, even better than me,
if I don't go to the gym, I don't feel on.
No, I feel off totally. Yeah, I feel massive go to the gym, I don't feel on. No, I feel off to the gym.
Yeah, I feel massive.
Like I just, I don't feel good about myself.
I feel lazy, I'm a little targic.
So people don't understand that like the gym
also energy gets energy.
That excuse everyone always says,
like I don't have the energy.
I don't feel well.
You'll feel so much better.
And you're so much more productive after you go to the gym.
Yeah, I'm crazy. I've noticed that that and I almost, I have to do it. I will take like one day off a week,
but the reason everyone's like, yeah, I don't like going to the gym. I don't like going to the gym,
either. What I love is that feeling walking out of the gym. Yes. I'm like the serotonin. I'm
on like, I'm on cloud nine. 100%. It's the best. I agree with you 100%.
Yeah, so I've loved that.
I go to the gym.
I go back home.
What I've been doing lately is I go to this place
Joe and the juice.
Oh yes.
I can't stop doing a gym.
They do these tuna wraps.
They're like paninis.
It's like a tuna.
In the morning?
I know.
I know.
We've got to work on your eyes.
I know.
I know. That comes at like 10 o'clock.
Okay, wait.
So that's the first thing you eat as a tuna panini.
Is that bad?
Yes.
You laid on me.
Yes.
I thought that seat seat to me, I think tuna's healthy.
Tuna is healthy once in a while.
But there's a lot of mercury in tuna.
You gotta watch tuna because there's a lot of like,
you gotta be careful.
I love tuna too, but I have to like I have to pace myself
because of all the mercury and all that like there's a lot of heavy metals in
that right. And I'm sure they're using it Joe and the juice like are they putting
mayo in that like a huge I gotta ask them it's a if it's avocado and then I do a
strawberry banana smoothie which is that is that okay? Well it depends what's in it.
That's problem. See that's that's. To me, I think strawberry banana smoothie, I'm good.
It's fine.
Yeah, but I'm not.
It's not, I mean, I wouldn't have that as my first meal,
but that's me.
But I,
You were sick to your stomach when you found out
that I knew you were doing it.
It's a weird thing to be,
It's crazy.
Like, in the morning at 10 o'clock.
Sounds disgusting.
I'm gonna have a tuna panille.
Yeah, it's like you just brushed your teeth
and now you're having a tuna panille.
It sounds a little bit off. Like, what's like you just brushed your teeth and now you're having a tuna panilla. Yeah, it sounds a little bit off.
Like, what did you rather have like an omelet or?
This tuna is so good that no, usually yes.
Do me a favor.
Okay.
You make a promise to me that you will go
and you will just try that tuna panilla.
Okay.
Hey, let me know if it's healthy or not
and be, let me know if you enjoy it.
And I think you might understand a little,
you might get it a little more if you try it.
I know how ridiculous it sounds, probably is ridiculous.
It kind of is, yeah.
But you have to just do that for me one day.
I totally will, but you know it even better.
Have you ever had the Carla Cafe to Nassau?
I've heard about that.
And the sandwich apparently, yeah.
It became very popular, like you did in like during COVID.
Yes, that's exact, it blew up.
It blew up during COVID, just like you.
I've had, you guys should do a collaborative.
Yes, yes, the COVID, I like that a lot.
I'm telling you, because you both had your moment
that started in COVID.
I came alive right around the time
that the Carla Caffé, tuna sandwich, and tuna salad came alive.
I'm telling you, you have to try that salad.
It is like amazing. If I love it, I gotta try the salad now'm telling you, you have to try that salad. It is like amazing.
See if I love it.
I gotta try the salad now.
Are you worried about the mercury in that salad?
So you and I have the same thing.
I'm obsessed with tuna.
I love tuna.
For sure?
Love it.
And so I have to back myself.
I would eat it every day if I could.
So now I only will let myself once or twice a week.
And that's by the way way too much.
You should only eat tuna once a month. Are you serious? Yes, but I love it too much. Yeah once or twice a week. And that's by the way way too much. You should only eat tuna like once a month.
Are you serious?
Yes, yes, but I love it too much.
Yeah, it's a problem.
But I don't drink and I don't do this
and I don't do that.
You could have a vice here in there.
Right.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, if, look, if tuna is your vice,
you're doing a okay.
I think I'm doing okay, right?
No, I mean, it's not bad.
For sure.
I could do worse.
No, right?
Yeah, you're doing a okay.
I'm doing okay.
Okay, so you have your sandwich in here.
I have my sandwich and then it's a lot of
Bob D'Aesport's calls with different.
What time does it start?
Like at 10 o'clock, 10, 30.
Even before, even before breakfast.
So after lunch, it's right away.
Call, it's just call, after call, after call.
Yeah.
Setting up where our next Bob D'Aesport strip
is gonna be like, there's not a day I goes by
where there's not phone calls. different different things like that and then I
Probably takes me about an hour maybe a little over an hour for cameos
That's it. So you do you do 20 in an hour?
Yeah, maybe it probably go shouldn't say an hour probably goes a little bit over an hour
But I'm so used to doing that now that I can I can
mow through them pretty fast. And then each cameo I do for it's like a 45 seconds
a cameo. So I do mow through it. I take a little bit of a break here and there,
but that's crazy. Yeah, that's a great revenue stream. No, it's yeah, it's it's a
amazing fact that you're number one cameo. It's what we make a thing out of it too,
like with the fans that like they try and push me to get to the number one on Camille.
And as ridiculous as it is, I kind of make a spoof out of it,
but they love it to where when they book the Camille,
they feel like they're really...
They're helping.
What's they are?
They definitely are.
They are.
How did you get your audience, by the way, so engaged?
I think it wasn't even. You didn't try, it just happened that way.
Yeah, I just, you know what,
I just, I think that they can see,
even like what you said that,
like, we're just kind of winging it.
Like, I think they see that too.
And they just like it.
Yeah, and they like really appreciated that.
Like, we're not stuck up,
we're not, we're very aware of how insane that this is a job for us.
And I think that they're able to see that
and we have noticed that it is a very loyal audience
and more importantly, like on the internet today,
like there's so many, no matter what you post,
you're going to have people that are going to comment
that are going to control your stuff.
If you look at Bob's sports videos
or you're brilliantly dumb or whatnot,
there are so few bad comments in there
to where we just have the best fans.
They're so supportive, you meet them outside
and like they're just the best.
They're not annoying, like they're just, they're awesome.
Wow, that isn't, that is amazing.
Yeah.
It really is.
It's, it's really, really cool
and we're definitely thankful for it.
But yeah, like even like meeting them them, it's not even like,
it's so much fun to meet them.
The interactions are great.
It really is.
It's really cool.
It's, and you can even tell them how you're talking about it.
It's just that it is that way.
OK, would you have for lunch and your snacks?
I want to know your food.
So I'm not getting away from this one.
The amount that I postmates is sickening.
It's crazy.
What a waste of money by the way.
For sure.
No doubt about it.
I wish, or even if I had a girlfriend that,
like my ex loved to cook, it was awesome.
I love home meals.
Like we go to the grocery store, I love that.
Now I'm single postmate, two to three times a day.
Yeah.
How do you post mating?
Any and everything.
Like, okay, what?
Last night, I mean, this was kind of ridiculous.
Well, so like sushi, but like last night,
this is a wild postmate order.
I did catch L.A. for postmates,
which my cousin thinks she's the most ridiculous thing
of all time.
Wait, you postmate catch L.A.?
Crazy move, I'm not happy about it.
Yeah, I'm not, I'm not happy about it.
And it doesn't even do good sushi.
The sushi's okay, yeah.
No, sushi, Fumi, have you been to sushi?
Love sushi, Fumi, enjoy it.
That's my favorite.
But the problem is, you know, the lineup,
it's crazy.
It's crazy.
Can't make a reservation.
You can't make a reservation.
You don't understand.
First of all, do you know how,
you have to be there at 545 or else you're just like you're done? I know. Who goes at 545 for dinner? What time do you
go to sushi for me? So before what I would do is I would have to like, it would give me like
Agida and anxiety the day I know I'm going there because I know I have to finish my day so early
to get there on time to like to get in. Yes. So I would say I would get there around like,
I used to be like, if they're like 6, 18.
Okay.
Okay.
And maybe, and like I would,
I would like kind of give a guy a little bit of money.
Of course you did.
You know the game.
You know the game.
But now only one guy can take the money.
So the, if you're not there before, you're screwed.
So now I don't even go there unless I know I'm gonna get
there around 545.
Right. But like, I know. And then even to get there I know I'm going to get there around 545. But like 545.
Right.
I know.
And then even to get there at 618, like you get there, which if you say you're
getting there at 618, you get there at 618 because you didn't say 620.
I did not say 618 because you said 618.
You know I said 618 because it's not because of me because if you wait that those extra
two minutes will make you wait in line for 45 minutes.
Crucial.
Crucial.
It be crucial. As I'm walking up to the door, I see a whole like herd of people going to put their names
down.
That's what happened.
I know and it's such a good sushi spot.
It really is.
It's amazing.
What's your other sushi spot?
Okay, so I found this other place.
I'm going to shout them out.
It's called Suri Sushi on Melrose.
Okay.
Sure.
It's never heard of it.
It's very good and a lot of people, when they can't get into Fumi, now they know
it's over there. Go over there. And it's really good. And a lot of people who can't get into fume, now they know what they're there.
And it's really good.
Now sushi's healthy, right?
Well, no.
I mean, anything.
Oh, she's genuinely.
It depends on what you're eating.
What are you eating at sushi?
What do you get at fume that you like?
I mean, I don't get this at fume,
but I love to fill it off your rock.
Oh, you're awesome.
I know because it's kind of like a big one.
That's exactly right.
I know.
You when I said that, it really is. It really is. It's like a locks and crimpy sandwich. That's exactly right. I know, you and I said that, it really is.
Yeah, it really is.
It's like a locks and crampies sandwich.
That's what you like it.
That's hilarious.
Right, I don't get that.
You know what I love?
I love the albacore with fried onions.
Now that is healthy, right?
Well, besides the fried onions, but that's okay.
And also so much sodium in there.
Like, listen, it's not great.
All the parasites and raw fish.
People assume that sushi is healthy.
It's a farce.
It's like subway.
People think it's healthy.
They do.
But it's not really healthy.
Sushi then, if that's the case,
that's the big cause every time I think I mean sushi,
I think I mean healthy.
Well, if you went and got just fit,
like just like sashimi, it's clean.
But is it healthy?
I mean, yeah, it's healthy.
But again, you can't eat that every day because of all the parasites, especially it
depends on what level of health we're talking.
Are we talking clean that you're not going to like feel bloated and you're not going to
gain weight?
Are we talking healthy in terms of parasites and toxicity?
Okay.
Yes.
You got to be more clear.
That's a good scale.
I would say all I want is clean.
Clean. It's clean. Yeah, I just want to be
somewhat look somewhat fit. Yeah, you look good now. By the way, do I? Yeah, I appreciate that you look at you're getting fit
Thank you so much. I'm definitely trying really works for you. Beautiful. Yeah
Whenever you want to have me back on I'm here. I'm enjoying this. I want you to be a regular. Maybe you can be like a serious regular
I'm like this. I want you to be a regular. Maybe you can be a serious regular. Sure, I'm my co-host.
I'm telling you, my, you should.
My, my, my downloads would like spike.
I'm telling you, you can, you can have this.
It's part of your own bra, you'll be like,
Bob does sports.
I'm in.
Breezy, go.
Whenever you want me.
Yeah.
You have like, you could have a whole litany of stuff
under your name.
I just made myself the co-host.
I just, I just turn myself.
I'm Kiddaki.
Maybe you could come once every six weeks.
Sure.
And we could do a solo together.
I'm on the 20 minutes.
Yeah, I'd say the word.
And we could do reviews like a food or of whatever.
Yeah, you are a foodie, huh?
I love, I'm like, I'm like really an obese person stuck
in not stuck in a normal person's body.
The only thing that I will say though, I like I would be very curious, okay, like what's your cheat meal?
There's no way your your cheat meal is actually probably my healthy meal.
No, it's not. I'm okay. I'm okay. This is the truth. I am obsessed with food. I think of food all the time.
Me too. It's like in my brain, like even while I'm talking to you, I'm of a food all the time. Me too.
It's like in my brain, like even while I'm talking to you,
I'm like, I'm thinking about it right now.
I'm thinking about it right now.
Yeah, I'm having sushi, though.
I'm thinking like, when can I go to sushi food?
Yeah.
I can be able to go again in soon.
6, 18.
Which I have, I won't be able to be like,
get there by 6.
I'm like, this is what I'm thinking about in my head.
I don't blame it.
Like, and if I could, if I allowed myself,
I would have french fries, pizza, I would have bails and cream cheese all the time. I would have all of the shit all the time. But I've now, I've basically disciplined myself
to a place where I won't allow myself,
because I've created like parameters for myself,
like that I won't allow, that will now stop me from doing it,
because I don't like the after effect.
Like I don't want to feel gross.
That's the thing.
I want to fit into my clothes.
I want to be able to do something.
I want to be able to do something.
I want to be able to do something. I want to be able to do something. I want to be able to do something. I want to be able to do something. I want to be able to do something. like parameters for myself, like that I won't allow, that will now stop me from doing it
because I don't like the after effect.
Like I don't want to feel gross.
That's the thing.
I want to fit into my clothes, you know what I mean?
So I've now created these parameters,
so that doesn't happen.
It's not crazy too, like, okay, so like football Sundays.
I'd be fat Perez.
Yeah, yeah, probably.
I would do your female fat Perez.
It's crazy though, like I even like on football Sundays
are really when I go nuts, like for us.
But then by the end of the day, mentally,
I feel like almost like depressed
in the sense of a football's over.
But B, I ate so shitty
that I feel just awful about myself, you know what I mean?
Right, and it's like, it's like,
it becomes like really a psychological thing.
Yeah.
Where you beat yourself up. 1,000%. It's terrible. Or even the next morning, I don like really a psychological thing. Yeah. Where you beat yourself up.
1,000%.
It's terrible.
Or even the next morning, I don't get the same workout.
I don't get as good of a workout in, like last night,
I'd be healthy.
So this morning, I got a great workout and you feel,
and again, I'm not a big health nut by any means,
but I've noticed a lot of this stuff, you know.
Well, what happens is you condition yourself now
to feel a certain way.
And when you're off-kilter, that's when you feel it even more.
Yeah.
For me, my life has been, most of my life.
Like, I know you don't know my background that much,
but I've written a bunch of health and fitness books.
I have lots of DVDs, I've created fitness companies.
Like, this is what I do.
And so, for me, I live in breathe it so much
because I am like addicted to the feeling
of what happens after.
Like I'm just like, you know what I mean?
Like not the workout alone is like the feeling after
and all the accoutrements that come with it.
So do you not look forward to working out?
Well, I've been doing it for so long
and like at every modality, right?
So like, it's not that I cannot not work out
because psychologically and mentally,
I would not be able to like, I would be worse off.
Like, I would not, my mental acuteness
wouldn't be there, my cognitive like,
focus and energy, I'm way more alert,
I'm just on point more.
Like that's the, for me, it's become way more mental
than it has like physical, but then also physical.
Like I feel, I feel gross.
Like I need to sweat like multiple times.
Like for me, I like to be active.
I don't like to sit in like be stationary.
Yeah, you certainly mentally just getting your head
and like, oh, it's awful.
The thing I worry about is now I got you
eating this tuna wrap to where I'm gonna damage your day.
You're not gonna damage my day because it's not,
I mean, if you say wrap, I can do that.
Like the wrap is not bad.
You have to, I'm gonna be so curious
for what you say about that.
I'm telling you, I think that,
I mean, if it's ad Joe's juice, whatever,
it can't be that bad because it's like a supposedly
a healthier.
The mayonnaise thing bothers me though. The mayonnaise. Cause you're right, it probably does like a supposedly a healthier. The man-a-thing bothers me though.
The man-
Because you're right.
It probably does have a lot of mayonnaise in it.
It probably does, but it's a kind of bread it is and how often you're doing it.
I would personally like to see you doing more like a turkey scramble, maybe an eggscrumble.
I can get behind that.
Like in the morning, I would see that.
You know what I want that I would spend money for on no problem,
but I have not been able to find a good one.
All of the ones, the food is not good.
If I would pay top dollar for a meal prep service.
There's a million of them.
But yes, but everyone that I've had, the food isn't good.
Or they get sick of it after a few days.
Yeah, it's not a good mix and like.
That's true.
There's a lot of, I have a guy,
do you know, have you ever heard of a guy named Don Saladino?
No.
Okay, so he's this guy that is like a trainer too,
like he created, he basically trained superheroes,
like he does like Ryan Reynolds for,
you know, all their, yeah.
He's like, he's a friend of mine who I adore.
He lives in New York.
And he started a food, or not he started.
He had the food line now through this other company
that he's very involved with, or he owns,
or I'm not 100% sure of the deal.
But he sends me stuff from that food thing.
I, he had these mud bowls that were like protein,
like overnight oats.
Yeah.
So amazing. So that's what I need. I like overnight oats. Yeah. So amazing.
So that's what I need.
I'm telling you.
I'm telling you.
You need something like that.
You need like a real situation where you're going to now, you're going to take your health
and your fitness to the next level.
You have to, but nutrition is 90% of it.
Like, fitness will get you so far.
And then if you're not eating like on point, I'm not saying you gotta be clean all the time
and I'm not saying that,
but you have to be at least like nutritionally,
like eating the right macros, eating the right fat,
in the right, you know what I mean?
I think it mean you did a deep dive
which we kind of just did,
you'd be pretty sick over what I'm eating.
And probably Yark's, we kind of just did deep dive.
I mean, you're going to sushi
and having a Philadelphia roll.
Yeah, exactly. And it's kind of disrespectful to do D-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d- and then getting that, like you can get that at like any cheap sushi place. I think it's what you said, which really hit me, it was true.
It reminds me of a bagel.
Yeah.
So like I love bagel so much that that's probably why I'm getting the fill in all for you.
That's why.
We have to like restructure your food.
I know, just some tweaks.
I just want to be in a position where I'm fit.
I can afford to have a cheat mail here and there.
And you know, I don't need to be some, you know, I don't want to be too shredded. Just just not too shredded. Well, I'll tell you the good little
trick, whatever I do is I put my first meal, which is breakfast on autopilot. So I never think about
that. I always have the same breakfast. That way, it's not something that I'm like craving,
thinking about. And that gives me a lot of room like that in my day. So I can like have like the dinner
I want or the lunch I want. So if I'm, so in the morning, I can like have like the dinner I want or the lunch I want so if I'm
so in the morning I'll always have eggs and great fruit before after you work out before because
if I'm not eating I'll get nauseous right yeah and so if I drink coffee and then I'm not working out
as hard and all the research has shown and people people can say one thing or the other and the
people who are on both sides it does does, there's almost zero difference.
If you eat before or you don't eat before,
because people are like, oh, fasted cardio,
then you can burn the fat.
Right, yeah, there's old,
if you're different than every day.
It's not.
The only thing that I will say is nice that I do like,
is like, or even for you when you get to your lunch,
is like after you work out,
you feel like you earn the main tear.
I know.
I enjoy eating after I work out,
because I'm like, all right, like I earn that,
and I know I need to recover.
So I'm like, I'm doing right, whereas if, you know,
I have.
And by the way, that turkey's the thing,
I'm giving you some shit,
but there's way worse things you can be eating.
You're not going to have like a stack of pancakes
and cereal.
Yeah, but it's in my head now,
to where I do have to think about it now,
which is why I need you to go do the research for you.
Okay, I'm going to, where is there a Joe's juice around here?
So it's Joe, I think it's Joe and the juice.
The one I go to is off La Siena Ga on, I think of where it is, but there's so many.
They're across the board.
So you're just typing Joe and the juice, you're going to find a Joe and the juice.
I think there's one on Melrose.
I know there's ones on that side of town.
I'm trying to think around here.
Another thing do you ever drink like shakes
or greens or super foods?
There's a company that sponsored us
that sent me something and I love doing it
and I finished it and I forgot to just ask them
for more athletic greens.
Athletic greens, they're one of my sponsors on this podcast.
They're really good.
You should be.
I really liked it.
We'll flip this by the way and give it to them.
Yeah, there we go.
You got to do it for me.
Listen, we're gonna clip this.
I like that.
Athletic Greens do not say I don't do anything for you.
We have Bob does sports on here.
I love it.
And he just said that of all the Greens,
he's drinking yours and he loves it.
So use this clip on your social media.
It's true.
And now here's the thing.
Maybe I'm ruined and at all.
But I always wondered with those green juices,
like obviously this.
The edit is fart.
Yeah, it's good.
Like I always wonder,
because I feel, like I have the athletic greens,
I feel so good after it.
I always wondered if it's just like in my head
that I'm feeling so good,
because I know I'm putting such good stuff into my body,
or if physically I really do, you know what I mean? Of course I know what you mean. Hey, I'm putting such good stuff into my body, or if physically I really do.
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I'm going to tell you a little yesterday on the podcast.
I had this guy, do you know what lane Norton is?
Mm-hmm.
He goes by biolane.
He's really popular on social media,
like I think a million thought,
like something a lot, right?
Yeah.
Very popular.
And he's got a PhD in nutrition and fitness.
And he debunks all these myths and bubble blood.
Anyway, so he was on yesterday,
and we were talking about a study that he met
on analysis study, where he was talking about placebo
versus real.
And you know the placebo of people thinking that they're doing something good for them
is actually turned out more effective than the physiological.
So like if you psychologically believe that you're drinking athletic greens and it's really
doing something for you, then it will benefit you more than even the physical resources.
I believe that by the way, a thousand percent.
I've never heard that take over.
I agree with that a thousand percent.
Yeah, it's true.
Just knowing, like, I feel, if I work out, take the athletic greens, to go in about my
day, I feel, my energies through the roof, like I already have a lot of energy as is.
It's, I totally read that.
Yeah.
I actually am a big believer in that stuff,
but like I think those things do help.
I think that's why I think also though,
like knowing, like nutrition to me is giving you the fuel
that you're gonna have to even take it to the next level
in an energy and in terms of like,
plus like psychologically thinking that you know
you're eating better and doing these things
will make you work harder and better and different
just because you think you have the overall capacity
and energy to do.
That's what I think.
We should work, okay, so we're gonna work out together.
I wanna see.
You're gonna bury me.
No, well that we know.
Yeah, yeah, that's on the record. But it's on the record. But I want to see where you are,
because I think that we can like definitely take it up like just a little bit. Sure. I would.
I would. Yeah, that's the thing. And we talked a little bit about it. Like at 45 is that 45
minutes. So where they do the weekend classes, they do an hour, the difference between the 45,
that extra 15 minutes is a big 15 minutes to where I do think I'd be in a lot better shape
if I did more like hour classes, but it's a grind.
The hours are grind.
It's a grind, and also I should say to everybody,
as long as you're doing something,
it doesn't matter what someone does
as long as you're doing something,
because it's the thing you like the least,
like the one that you hate the least
is what's gonna actually actually work. Yeah.
Because you're going to do it. Right. Yeah.
If I said you go do Barry's bootcamp, which is so much more intense, but you absolutely
hate it, you're never going to go. Right.
And therefore, it's not going to help. But if you go to F 45 every day and you're
putting those calories and you're feeling good and then you're making other good choices
because of that, then you're like off to the races.
Yeah.
I do and I enjoy, I'm at the point now where like,
shouldn't say I enjoy going to the gym,
but like I enjoy the instructors there,
I have a good rapport with them and shocking.
So many people like, they use the gym
and it's like a social club for them.
Totally.
For me, that 45, you're reading your route.
I just wanna get in and I wanna get out.
I know. And I wanna move about my day. 100%. With me, that 45 year in and you're out. I just want to get in and I want to get out. I know.
And I want to move about my day.
100% out.
With that, you're in, they start to instruction,
and you get on out there.
Yeah, that's exactly true.
Because when I go to Equinox, it's like a whole product.
Oh, you're in Equinox.
I go to Equinox.
OK.
But listen, because I created a class that they bought,
and I part of my deal.
I mean, this is like a whole, I feel like I know
I'm on your podcast, is that I would teach that class
once every so often, this was years ago.
And then I kept on going because I got my memberships
all over the world, I got this and that.
So now I still go.
Oh, well, I'd be going to Equinox for you.
I mean, I go.
Yeah.
But it's a whole thing.
It's like I got to go in, I got to park the car.
Totally.
I got to say hi to everybody.
Yes.
By the time I'm out of there, it's like dinner time.
And I'm like,
My cousin would take me to his gym
and everybody's like socializing after and stuff,
which fine, that's what you're gonna do.
I just, I don't wanna go to the gym.
I mean, I'm out.
Yeah, and done.
And then I go get my tuna right.
And then you get tuna right.
Which is what really you wanna do in the first place.
Simple man, James, that simple man.
Oh my God, okay, so listen, I don't know how long,
I don't even know how long this podcast has been.
How long has it been because my watch is gone?
Holy.
Oh, two hours, okay.
That's not bad.
So when you do our solos, you'll see it.
We have a nice rapport.
You see this?
I went to the time flies.
The time flies.
Two hours talking to Bob Desvars.
It was good.
Not bad.
You're very good.
You had a very good story.
Thank you.
I love to hear all about the food.
This is my favorite part.
Yeah.
For people living under a rock, where were they find you? Thank you. I love to hear all about the food. This is my favorite part. Yeah.
For people living under a rock, where were they find you?
So you two, you two Bob D'Asports.
Yep.
Instagram Bob D'Asports were on all platforms, brilliantly dumb, across the board, and then
the brilliantly dumb show, the other podcasts we have, as well, same thing, across the board,
Instagram, YouTube, all of that good stuff.
A lot of content going around.
I'm telling you, this guy is the real deal.
I'm so happy you came on this podcast.
I'm not joking, I do want you to come back
and do these solos with me.
I'll be ready for you.
And by the way, I thought you would probably
say like an hour or so.
I really enjoyed it.
I really flew by.
It was a lot of fun.
Thank you.
I feel like I think so too.
This was, I'm so glad my friend told me about you.
Like, basically not just told me, basically said,
you have to have this guy on the podcast
or else you are fucking idiot.
And my husband also agreed.
So I'm happy that we did this.
This is great.
It was a lot of fun.
Thank you so much for having me, Jenna.
Appreciate it.
Thank you.
Thank you.