Habits and Hustle - Episode 257: Elon Gold: The Truth About Achieving Greatness in the Showbiz

Episode Date: July 11, 2023

Have you ever wondered what life behind the mic of a comedian looks like?  In this episode of Habits and Hustle, we chat with the ever-so-hilarious and insightful, Elon Gold. We kick off with a raw ...and humorous chat on the hustle and grind of the comedy world and exploring how he started. Elon also expands on the significant impact of Jerry Seinfeld and Larry David on Elon's career, to a chat about our comedy heroes, the industry's challenges, and how comedy can be a powerful tool against hatred. We delve into profound talks on faith, tradition, and God, underscoring the importance of having a support system. We reminisce on starting out in comedy, the struggles, and the glory. Elon opens up about the success of his 'Funny Quarantine' show and expresses his admiration for Howie Mandel’s comedic genius. There's also a thoughtful exposition on being Modern Orthodox and the essence of keeping traditions alive. Elon Gold is a comedian and actor who has starred in FOX's 'Stacked’ and NBC's 'In-Laws’. His one hour stand up special on Netflix, “Elon Gold: Chosen & Taken” received wide acclaim from audiences and peers alike. It is currently streaming on Amazon Prime.  What we discuss: (0:00:00) - About Elon Gold's Comedy Career (0:10:57) - How important is tradition and belief in God? (0:23:22) - How does the show business work? (0:28:06) - Joining Larry David's Show Journey (0:38:17) - How does making a living in comedy look like? (0:41:02) - What lessons can comedy teach us? (0:51:22) - What can comedy do to help with recent incidents against jews? (1:00:02) - Should comedians cover controversial topics?  (1:12:58) - Which women in comedy are the funniest? (1:18:55) - What type of people should we take advice from?  (1:33:36) - What does Elon like to do to relax? (1:43:43) - What is the secret to a successful marriage? Key takeaways: When you wake up in the morning, it’s important to meditate so you can focus on the beauty and truth in your life. However, it’s equally important that you express gratitude for everything worth being grateful about in your life. Whether you like to observe your own thoughts or talk to your God, spending time reflecting on your thoughts and thanking the Universe or God for everything you have is imperative to a happy and successful life.  In the show business, there’s no such thing as someone helping you out just for the sake of helping you out. In order for someone to give you a shot or a big break, it needs to be mutually beneficial. This is something that may sound harsh, but it is true in other types of relationships as well, such as romantic ones. If one partner is the only one doing all the work, the relationship won’t survive.  Every and any talent you have is God-given. You are born good at something for a reason but you have to work very hard to be great at it. This talent is given to you so you know which craft to work on and become the best at. To learn more about Elon: Website: https://www.elongold.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elongold/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiEzx9WQFf1D2kJkk1VZjSA My links: Website: https://www.jennifercohen.com/ Instagram: @therealjencohen  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I got his Tony Robbins you're listening to habits and hustle, fresh it. So I have Elon Gold on my podcast today. No, no, I'm serious. I mean, to go from Chevy Chase to Elon Gold, this must be just the thrill of a lifetime for you. First of all, a legend in comedy too. I didn't we go to camp together.
Starting point is 00:00:24 That's my level of fame. It's, we went to camp, right? No, I was on curb your enthusiasm and many other shows. You should know me, but nobody does. Nobody knows me. Nobody does, and they should, because you are the most hilarious. If anyone check, you want to check out Elon Gold's comedy, his clips, they are.
Starting point is 00:00:41 Follow me on Instagram, Addylion Gold, yellow in. Like the other guy. Easy lawn musk, Amelon must-do corporate gigs that pay mortgage. But anyway, yeah, follow me. I have good, good clips and good things on the YouTube's and the specials in the Amazon. You're so funny.
Starting point is 00:00:56 You should be like Sebastian. That's so nice. And I love Sebastian. I started with Sebastian. And the interesting thing about Sebastian is that, wait, put a pin in that because I want to just address something to the fans at home. Jennifer, as I come here and she's so lovely and we met once before, right?
Starting point is 00:01:13 Once, Jennifer, as I sit here, I sit down and she goes, you know, you blew me off. And I went, I'm here. We met once. How is the blow up between the first meeting and the showing up? Where's the blowing? I want to know where's the blowing and I've been married 29 years So that's a big question of my life. Where is the blowing? Where's the blood? I gotta know how you did it actually I was I think that you blew me off No, no, no, cuz you're like, oh, you're this you're that whatever and I remember when I first met you I came up to you. And I was so elated to see you.
Starting point is 00:01:47 That's so nice. I was so excited. And you were kind of more like, yeah, yeah, thank you. Like, you're pleasant. I'm a pleasant person. You were very pleasant. But I was actually, I was actually pleasantly surprised how nice you are that you came over.
Starting point is 00:01:59 You were a nice guy, you know. You were very pleasant. Yeah. And then I, no offense didn't know you, even though I know you're huge. And not you're huge. And she's doing so well. She's doing probably better than anybody.
Starting point is 00:02:11 And you look at all these podcasters. And they're not doing well. They're not doing well. They're fakes, they're frauds. And their total disasters, but Jen is doing so fantastic. And you know, she reminds me, when I think of Jen, I think about my wife, melanoma. What is it? Melania, melanoma. Either one will kill me eventually. I will tell
Starting point is 00:02:30 you that. But my wife, melatonin, what is it? It's melania, melania melatonin. They both put me to sleep. I gotta be honest. But you know, you're even more beautiful than my own wife. And you're doing so well. Anyway, we get back to so, so here's the thing, I didn't know you, because I don't list the podcast. Did you just make it up on the spot? I had a couple of those in the bag. I, you did?
Starting point is 00:02:53 You know, you always either pull things from your act or you just improvise. The blowing joke earlier was improvised. I didn't know it was gonna say that. You know, and some things you pull from here and there, and some Johnny Carson famously said, you're gonna use everything you've ever had, everything you got, you just use it, you use what you have.
Starting point is 00:03:11 And when you work on things, for, listen, I've been doing this 30 years, you've got a bag of tricks, and you pull them out every now and then. Here's my point, so I didn't know you, but I immediately took to you, because you're like cool, you have this energy and this aura that's very cool. Also, you're a fan of mine, which is rare for people.
Starting point is 00:03:27 So I was excited. So you're like, do my podcast. My initial thing is, no, I don't wanna do podcasts because, first of all, I don't listen to podcasts because I have four kids and four jobs. I literally, a comedian and writer, actor, producer, just produced this roast of anti-semitism that you were at, we'll get into that.
Starting point is 00:03:46 We'll get into that. We'll get into that. We're still not, we're three subjects behind. Yeah. So I don't listen to podcasts, I don't, so I don't know you, but I'm like, some about Jen, she's got it, she's got it, Jen's got it going on.
Starting point is 00:03:58 I'm showing up to this. And you know how many podcasts I turned down, even at my low level of nobody cares about me, I still turned down podcasts, because what's the, here's the question with podcasts. What does anyone have to gain from them unless you're learning something which we might today, unless you're really being entertained, which could also happen today? 100%. But what do I get out of it?
Starting point is 00:04:20 Well, would you get exposure to an audience that doesn't otherwise know you? Thank you. I'm glad I'm here. The interesting thing that you bring up about Sebastian, so nobody sees the years and years of struggle. Sebastian, four years, we like started out together, four years struggling and I'll never forget about maybe just five years ago, like maybe a few months before he popped. Now, it was more like six, seven years ago because like maybe a few months before he popped. Now it was more like six, seven years ago, because it was like two years before. And he said, I got nothing going on.
Starting point is 00:04:51 I got nothing. He was like fetching, I don't do a Sebastian, but that's kind of the thing. Go on. And he goes, I don't know what to do man. And I was like, dude, dude, relax. Everyone will know what we know, we being the comedians. We being the comedians like me who don't want to follow Sebastian.
Starting point is 00:05:12 Sebastian, as an unnamed, no one, nobody, nobody, would go on stage at any club and destroy. And then when you look at the lineup and you see your after Sebastian, you go, oh, that's gonna be tough. He's a tough act to follow. So when you're at the lineup and you see your after Sebastian, you go, oh, that's going to be tough. He's a tough act to follow. So when you're that good, eventually, it'll catch on. Bill Burr once said to me. He's my other favorite.
Starting point is 00:05:32 Yeah. Bill Burr, if you're funny and you stay funny and you keep being funny, they'll figure it out. So eventually, that's why you can't give up. If you believe in yourself and you have some little level of talent or a gift and you're working hard at it, things tend to go your way. If you have a goal, if you have something that you're aiming towards and you're working your tuchus off at it and there's some innate talent, it usually happens. Now it hasn't happened for me yet, but everyone else I know, almost everyone, Chappelle, everyone I started with is like a superstar now except me. Why is that though? You are you done you do very well. I do okay. You're a great working standup, right?
Starting point is 00:06:11 And your stuff I Your stuff is Honestly laugh out loud funny and when I send it to people Everybody says this if they all laugh literally out loud not just like that's okay, you know move on and they're like How come I never heard of this guy before? Well, that's my favorite compliment because my good friend Larry, not Larry David who's another friend.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Whoops, my good friend Larry, Larry the gynecologist. I do have a gynecologist. I'm not kidding. Not for me to go to, but because he's my friend. And I introduce him at parties, whatever I go, this is Larry my gynecologist. Because he is a gyne parties, whatever I go, this is Larry, my gynecologist. Because he is a gynecologist. And to me, he's like my gynecologist.
Starting point is 00:06:48 And I am a bit of a pussy. But anyway, so Larry, Larry and I have been friends forever. But the crazy thing about Larry is he was a fan first, but we had a mutual friend. And he was like a crazy fan. And then we became very close. And he said, I would always, every Saturday night, I would put your special on.
Starting point is 00:07:06 At the time I was on Netflix, now it's on Amazon Prime. And he goes, I put your special on. And everyone would be dying laughing for an hour, and it would end, and they would turn to me and go, how have I never heard of this guy? How is this guy not the biggest comedian? How is he not doing arenas? And to me, I go, that's such a beautiful compliment,
Starting point is 00:07:22 and maybe one day, and maybe one day, no. But it's nice to hear that at least people don't look at the stuff and go, oh yeah, he's no good. Yeah, but for you being the comedian, doesn't it like, how does that feel to know that all these other people? Oh, a bit frustrating. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:38 Yeah, I mean, seriously. You know what it's like? It's like everyone else is graduating college and moving out with these great jobs and you're in summer school going, what's happening? Hey, where did everybody go? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:50 But also, I have all these little successes in between all the failures and the failed sitcoms and the failed pilots. And the little successes keep you going and compliments keep you going. Two weeks ago, Mel Brooks, does it get better and bigger than Mel Brooks? I got to meet him backstage and he said, I said to him, I sat down and I always have to have an opening line when
Starting point is 00:08:12 you meet a guy like that. You don't want to just, you know, wing it. So I go, I know what I'll say to him. I sat down, they introduced me and they go, Mel, this is an audience. Come here. I go, well, let me just say this. I go, Mel, you and I have two things in common. We're both comedy legends. And he laughed and like, give me a little potch on the cheek, which was nice. And I go, and we both did a few episodes of Kirby. You're enthusiastic.
Starting point is 00:08:34 And he turns to me and goes, you did a good job. He goes, I remember watching. I don't do a Mel either. He goes, I remember watching, thinking, they should give him a raise. They should give him a raise. He did a good job.
Starting point is 00:08:45 And I was just like, oh my God, that kind of compliment takes you, it just lasts years. So every day of life is rejection. It's every day. We show business, rejection rejection rejection. Many times a day.
Starting point is 00:08:59 And a compliment like that takes you through. Chappelle, who's an old friend, he was at the comedy seller, and he was on stage and I walk back and he sees me. And he goes, oh, hey man, he goes, he's on gold is here. It's great comedian night here at the comedy seller. And I was just like, whoa, he just put me with him
Starting point is 00:09:18 and said it's great comedian night because I'm here and he's here. That compliment in a sea of rejection and bad, terrible, like just nose and everything that passes, that you, that frustrate you, that takes you through it. And whenever a fan, a rare fan comes over and says, and especially Jews like to do this, they always give it a little caveat.
Starting point is 00:09:40 They go, I don't wanna swell up your head, you know, but it's always that, I don't wanna give you a big ego, but you're my favorite community or but you're hilarious. And I always say to them, I go, I just want to tell you something that is so nice. And I really appreciate the compliment. You don't need that opening part because nothing will give me a big ego and nothing will swell my head. I live in a sea of pain and suffering and rejection. I daily, daily my life is just full of no and never and we don't like him.
Starting point is 00:10:12 So this actually helps get me through all of that and it doesn't do anything to my head. If anything, it, you know, prevents me from going into a deep dark depression. I don't understand how this is even possible. Why is in Dave Chappelle or these people help you? Well, it's a whole thing. First of all, we as a community, we're all sort of competing
Starting point is 00:10:33 with each other, but in a way, we do help each other. You're not competition for Dave Chappelle. No, no, no. Well, we do go up for the same roles. But, yeah, I don't think so. So why can he include you on his tour? It is an every man for himself thing and it is like, and sometimes it look,
Starting point is 00:10:47 his closest friends, we're friends, we're not close close, one of his best friends, one of my best friends, Jeff Ross, the great, the great, I think he's very funny. He's amazing, he's brilliant, he's the greatest guy. And I just told him this, I said, because he did this roast event, I said, which we'll get to,
Starting point is 00:11:02 and I just told him, I said, you know, the thing about Jeff, he's not just like the funniest guy, but he's the kind of guy where in the worst times, and I'm talking about death, what he did for our mutual friend, Bob Sagitt, what he did for our mutual friend, Gilbert Godfried,
Starting point is 00:11:18 he is there for the family. He was at his best friend, Sarah Silverman. He was on Sarah Silverman's father's deathbed with him in bed, making him laugh in his last few days. Like, that's the kind of guy Jeff is, yeah. Really? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:33 But the point is, Jeff and Dave are best friends, so they're on the road together all the time. I'm not as close. But we do things for each other. During the pandemic, I had a stupid show called My Funny Quarantine, where I went on Instagram live, and I would interview comedians and everyone from Jeff Ross, Jeff Garland, to, I mean, huge people. Jay Leno, Judd Apatow, Bill Burr, Tiffany Haddish, how he mando, all these people were like, oh sure, I'll do it. And that's how they
Starting point is 00:12:01 help. When you ask, when there's an ask, he manned all closing the show, it's a bond to him. He's hilarious. He'll hilarious. Got a standing ovation so well deserved. I admire him so much. You're amazing. I told him my whole act used to be doing him and a few other guys. All right, okay, what? What? And I used to just do him with jokes that I would write in his voice. And he said to me backstage, he goes, I go, I can't believe you're here. This is so he goes, when you ask me to do something, I'll be here. And he goes, and it's for our people,
Starting point is 00:12:27 and it's for a good reason to fight anti-Semitism and hatred. And he goes, but just for the record, anything you ask me to do, I'll do. And I was like, what a man. Who does, who says that? That's so nice. I almost didn't do this.
Starting point is 00:12:40 I was gonna say, I know, I got lucky. Yeah, you are blessed. But then I get the, what did you say at the beginning? You let me down. No, I just said you let me down. No, I said you blew me off. I didn't mean that I met more. The other way, did you show up to this podcast
Starting point is 00:12:54 with his son's fillin bag? No. That he just got fixed by a khabad rabbi? No, is that for... We're to fillin' people. Do you know what to fillin'? Of course, is that why you're... Why is that why you brought it? No, I was at a lunch with a guy and a thing in the rabbi? No, is that for... We're to fill in people, do you know what's filling in? Of course, is that why you're, why is that why you brought it?
Starting point is 00:13:06 No, I was at a lunch with a guy and a thing in the rabbi show, I go, I have your to a great. You are like a legit, observant. Are you an orthodox, Jew? We call it modern orthodox. Okay, modern. And I even have a joke,
Starting point is 00:13:19 which only like sort of orthodox or conservative or reformed Jews would get. And I say, I don't do this in my regular act, because I have like two acts. I have a secular act, and then I have like a Jewish act. You do? That goes really deep, that you wouldn't even get.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Really? Yeah, like I'm talking like Sukah jokes that like, you know, you might not, like, what's a Sukah? You know what a Sukah. Of course I do. Okay, fine. I need me to insult you. Anyway, I'm more of a conservative person.
Starting point is 00:13:42 But you don't know what a Sraakh is, which is the roof of a Sukah. I do so. Okay fine Sorry, I went to I went to a private Jewish school my whole life. I speak Hebrew fine. Good good for you I'm not I know a tissue be yet, but I mean who is I'm anyway so so so but I'm there And I saw she had first row tickets and I didn't so just so you know, okay, not through me So she had first row tickets and I didn't. So just so you know, not through me. Okay, just make it fair. Another quetch by the way, when I just walk in,
Starting point is 00:14:08 I sit down again, I don't do podcasts usually, so I'm like, yeah, sure, I get nothing but quetching. She goes, hey, those nose bleeds were really great. I hook her up with tickets out. Let me just say this, you know what my response there was? I said, you mean you were sitting in the row with my parents, wife, and my children? Those nose, like I have, it's the Saban theater,
Starting point is 00:14:27 and I, yes, I'm producing and hosting it, but I'm not working who's sitting where in the 1900s theater. That's beyond my pay grade. Oh, hey, hey. But anyway, I have a joke and I say, I am modern orthodox, right? And after all these years, I finally figured out
Starting point is 00:14:42 what modern means in modern orthodox. It means not so. You know, it's the nice way of saying, I'm not so orthodox. Then I have the punch on it. It'd be great if there are other areas in life where you have the nice way of saying things like you're going to blind date. What's she like? Oh, she's very smart and she's funny.
Starting point is 00:14:57 What does she look like? She's modern, pretty. So anyway, that's me. That's great joke. It's a good joke. Well, you know, it's a good joke. Can I take a joke? I'm doing let-on out. Anyway, it's a. That's a great joke. It's a good joke. Well, you know, it's a good joke. Can I have a good joke? I'm doing let-on out.
Starting point is 00:15:06 Anyway, it's, all right, joke, tell joke, get checked. You know, that's basically it. But anyway, I do love keeping a lot of the tradition and heritage and customs and rituals of our people. I think it's important to keep that alive. I think without observant people, which I really consider myself just observant, because I keep Shabbat and I keep kosher,
Starting point is 00:15:28 but I go to restaurants that aren't kosher, but I don't eat kosher, not like me. You wouldn't have that coffee because it may have had a milk product. Because I just had a kosher steak for lunch, I wouldn't follow it before three hours waiting with this, if this had dairy, and it turns out it's all not good. Right, so you are kosher full-on, very kosher. before three hours waiting with this, if this had dairy, and it turns out it's all not good. Right, so you are kosher, full on, very kosher.
Starting point is 00:15:47 Full on wouldn't go to a sushi restaurant and have sushi that's not kosher or go to a pasta pizza that I do. I'm not the perfect Jew, that's why it's modern, not so. But I am observant, and I love the traditions. That's why I was coming here also, pitching to you. I was like, it's almost Shabbos here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Do you keep it? The thing about Shabbat's, it is the greatest gift that God ever gave us because it is, I call it connecting by disconnecting. Everyone's phones are off. So my kids, I have four kids. They're all like teenagers or 20s. This is them at any dinner table.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Who's up there? You know, it's just like, it's funny. Or just whatever. And then Shabbat, Friday night, sundown. Everyone's up there? You know, it's funny or just whatever. And then Shabbat, Friday night, sundown, everyone's phones not only off, but just away, not in their pockets, not. And we are just connecting by disconnecting. We are connecting. We are laughing. We're telling stories. It is a beautiful Friday night dinner. I look forward to it every single week. And sometimes we have guests. We had a few big shots. I'm not going to bring it up.
Starting point is 00:16:45 No, tell me who you had over. Well, it's not important. No, it's not important. I have some big people. Tell me who you have. Tell me who you have. I can't think of you. It's a... Jeff Ross. Of course, always. Jeff Garland, a lot of big, big people. Jeff is supposed to be on this podcast. Well, he should do it. He's supposed to. I have the text. I don't ask. He'll do it. But anyway, I always say my three top. I only care about three things. That's life for me is three things. God, family, and comedy. That's everything to me. And someone asks me the day, why is God
Starting point is 00:17:16 before your own family? I'm like, because without God, I wouldn't have a family. I wouldn't have me. I wouldn't have the world. I wouldn't have anything. Like, I'm a real believer. I have major faith in God. I mean, there's this thing called the Revelation at Sinai, where 600,000 people witness God giving
Starting point is 00:17:32 the Torah to Moses and people witness this, not just one or two or three, but like 600,000. And when that goes down generation to generation, you tend to believe it. And you go, okay, this was actually a real thing. And if you really look at the Bible and everything, there is so much beauty and truth in it. And I know there's so much issue, so many issues with the organized religion and all that stuff and I hate that crap too. But again, the rituals, the customs, like Shabbat, like all the stuff that can put on to fill in every day.
Starting point is 00:18:00 It's a meditative, I take 20 minutes every day and just meditate. And some people do the whatever meditations and I just say hi to God a little bit every morning, 20 minutes. You wake up in the morning saying hi to God and you thank God that you woke up again because so many people don't wake up in the morning. Yeah, it's so true. Cut to tomorrow morning. And it's crazy because he died the next day. He was talking about how much he loves God and God and he dies. This will be a podcast for the age of that. You should actually hold by die, just so this podcast will blow up.
Starting point is 00:18:32 That's 100% true. It's already big. You don't need me to die. No, no, no, God forbid. Plus for shalom as we say. But anyway. Is your wife, why the hold on? When you married?
Starting point is 00:18:43 No, no, were you? Were you? I don't wear a ring by the way. You know what I say about my ring. No. Would you? I'm married. No, what were you? Were you? I don't wear a ring by the way. You know what I say about my ring. No. Here's my theory on rings. And I've been married 29 years last week, June 5th, 29 years, 29. But if I wear a ring, if I like advertise that I'm married, how am I ever going to find
Starting point is 00:19:01 my soulmate? Anyway, I know she's out there somewhere. That's a little joke. It's when I use high school sweetheart. That's a whole other podcast. We'll get into that. Really? Did you grow up?
Starting point is 00:19:12 I am happily married. By the way, you know, who is it, my wife? Yeah. Yeah. I tell you folks, it's rough in here. You know, and it's hot. It's hot as balls. Oh my God, you are amazing.
Starting point is 00:19:23 I'm doing Robin, Mr. Happy. Yeah. And I'm all over the place. Yes. Oh, I'm doing Robin, Mr. Happy. Yeah. And I'm all over the place. Yes. You're so quick. I'm okay. No, you gave me this juice that I've juiced up now.
Starting point is 00:19:32 No, honestly, you're taking this. What is this? You took the ketone IQ at- Ketone IQ. Get your IQ higher than high. Yep. What? And you're drinking this.
Starting point is 00:19:43 And I'm drinking this. Oh, this is going to be a real wild ride. Oh, my God. Yeah. I mean, honestly, it's crazy. What are we talking about, though? God. Yeah, it's nice to like God.
Starting point is 00:19:54 By the way, if I'm wrong and there is no God, what do I have to lose? I had a better life. I was more spiritual and meaningful and connected. What's the downside of believing in God? That's a good point. Thank point. So did you grow up modern orthodox? It was my question. So great question. So yeah, I did, but my parents never enforced it. They never forced it. In fact, both my brothers went away from it. Younger brother was gay, not saying was because he's not gay anymore.
Starting point is 00:20:21 Sadly, he's not alive anymore. You got it? You got it? Yeah, it's a horrible thing a few years ago. So still trying to process, get over that. But he was gay in a proud ju, such a proud ju, but grew up in the 80s when the gays were like, not totally accepted by, especially orthodox Judaism, by the community, it was like sort of shunned.
Starting point is 00:20:43 And so he always had that conflict about like, mm, I love being Jewish. And I'm so proud of my identity, both my identities. And, you know, it's interesting because I always used to talk to him about like being, he was more gay than Jewish. His gay identity took was one step ahead of his Jewish identity, even though we were like a Jewish star and all that.
Starting point is 00:21:05 And I said, I figured out why, because in your life, you faced more adversity and hatred about you being gay than you being Jewish. This anti-Semitism that's been rearing its ugly head over the last few years, and we got to talk about the roast, is it was almost on pause for a bit. We almost had a good run between, you know, the Holocaust and like the recent few years where it's sort of rearing it's ugly. We had again. So he didn't face a lot of Jew hatred, but he faced a lot of homophobia.
Starting point is 00:21:35 So he had to fight against that by being more proud of his gayness than his Jewishness. And he agreed. But anyway, he left religion, but again, stay connected and would still come to family, saters and shabbat dinners and all that and loved it, but just wasn't for him and had that conflicting, you know. How old does he when he died? Oh my God, he was only 44. So I've been sleeping on these blissey pillowcases lately,
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Starting point is 00:24:29 It is so good, enjoy. So I'm gonna ask you the obvious question. Yeah. So you believe in God like you do. Yes. So in your mind, how do you reconcile? Oh, that's easy. Okay. There's one thing.
Starting point is 00:24:42 First of all, there's two things. One is you could never figure out God and why bad things happen to good people. One day we will all understand why all these terrible stuff is hunger and wars and famine and all that stuff. But there is a Talmudic thing that sort of explains it, but it's too long to get into that makes me realize,
Starting point is 00:25:03 oh yeah, that makes sense. The short end of that is, it's about how like a beautiful loaf of bread is made and it's first with like this wheat field, but then you have to chop down the wheat fields. Like why are they chopping down the wheat field? And then you have to burn the, and if to burn the grains, and why are you burning the grains?
Starting point is 00:25:17 It was a good one to burn it. And then what comes out is this beautiful loaf, but you don't see the loaf when you see all the negativity. So we don't know what the loaf is, whatever. That's number one. But number two is, you know, Ari, was his name. Ari, like, was a blessing, and even for 44 years, and was a blessing that while he should have and could have lived to 100, whatever, he really did fulfill his purpose on Earth.
Starting point is 00:25:40 And he was a singer songwriter, and he was a pioneer. And Billy Porter even said, who was his boyfriend for two years, Billy Porter said, we're all standing on the shoulders of Ari, because Ari was like the first to ever do love songs with a man, another man that was never been done. Even Elton didn't do those. Really?
Starting point is 00:25:57 So yeah, so it was like, he was the first recording artist that came out and he had a big gay following. He never broke in mainstream and you don't know who he is, but he had a following in that world and that community. And I mean, everyone from Boy George, Billy Porter, your RuPaul was a good friend of his. And oh my God, he would introduce me to trans people
Starting point is 00:26:14 before I knew what that was. And it was like, he was such an eye-opener. He just taught me so much about love and acceptance. And he fulfilled his purpose. And he even one of his songs was called Leave the World Changed. And that's what he did, meaning he left the world, he himself was changed, and he changed the world
Starting point is 00:26:32 by, you know, with his music and his work and his life. So anyway, so you don't go, God, why did you do this to me? But then again, I can't speak for everyone. There are so many tragic cases of people who are children gone for being all this stuff, where there are no answers. I would never give that person an answer.
Starting point is 00:26:47 You know, your child was a buttono. There's nothing you could tell that inconsolable parent. But we just don't know. We don't know anything. We don't know why we're here, little on why we leave here. Why are we here? Why am I doing this podcast? I said, you're mentioned it's almost shabbat.
Starting point is 00:27:03 I, well, you're going to be here for a little bit. So God family comedy is everything. Who is your other brother? You said you had- Steven is my older brother. He's another brilliant musician and he does composing and producing music for TV shows. One a Grammy for Cobra Christmas special that he did. He works on SNL.
Starting point is 00:27:21 He did. Chappelle show. Are you serious? And he can't help you. No, it's not, again, let me tell you something about show business. You know who my biggest fan ever was, even bigger than you?
Starting point is 00:27:33 Me, yeah. No, even bigger than you, my biggest fan ever. Steven Spielberg's mother. And Steven Spielberg, I always wait for the other. Are you serious? Serious. And Steven Spielberg, I always wait for the other. Are you serious? Serious. And Steven Spielberg's mother, may she rest, was my biggest fan.
Starting point is 00:27:50 And we would hang out all the time. And with Steve, to a point where they hired me when the dad had a hundredth birthday. And literally Steve Spielberg introduces me, and it was probably goes, Dad, this is the funniest comedian on earth. And he was just trying to be nice to me and then show his dad that he knows funny people,
Starting point is 00:28:08 whatever, I think his dad knew. But anyway, and I was just like, oh, that's so nice and everything. And I'm just like, thinking in my head, if I'm the funniest guy, why haven't I, not even like, give me an under five role, give me something, throw me a bone, but show business doesn't work that way.
Starting point is 00:28:22 And I understand that and I have no ill feelings towards Steve or anyone that I've been. Steve and? Steven, we call him Steve. Schmoole. Anyway, because here's how show business works. It's a microcosm of how life works. It's a give and take.
Starting point is 00:28:36 I will offer you something, but it has to be beneficial to both of us. If I am perfect for a Steven Spielberg movie, he actually will consider me, he'll bring me in for a read, but I am probably not the best actor that Steven Spielberg knows. I have a feeling. So he, who is the best, has to work with the best and the most perfect for the part. So that's what Steven Spielberg is. Now, if I am the best for the part, and I nail the read, and he's like, then he'll be happy to help me
Starting point is 00:29:08 because I'm a friend of a family, his mom left, but it has to be mutually beneficial. It has to be, there is no, I'll help you, I got you, I'll help you. It's all, well, what can we do for each other? What have you done for me lately? What can I do for you? What can you do for me?
Starting point is 00:29:21 It's just a give and take, but so is marriage, so is friendship, so is life. We don't even realize it, but everyone is just in a constant, you know, you do for me, I do for you thing. It's a constant. If you're in a relationship where the other person isn't giving anything of themselves and you're not benefiting from them,
Starting point is 00:29:36 that relationship bends quickly. That's 100% true, however. So you're saying, okay, even with the mom loving you, he loved you. He could, but there are times in people's lives when something happens in something shifts. Like Sebastian, you told us. Like two months prior, he had nothing going on.
Starting point is 00:29:53 Right. What happened? Someone has to give him a break somewhere. You're right. Well, first of all, he gave himself a break by working so hard and- You too. Yeah, and running around the country, and then-
Starting point is 00:30:04 You too. Yeah, and okay, and here, and then he put it. You too. Yeah, and okay, and here's the thing. Here's where I'm at and the difference where he was at. He did one special and I said, once people see this special, they're gonna figure out what we all know. They're gonna see it, they're gonna get it.
Starting point is 00:30:15 The special comes out, nothing happens. And even I was in shock. Which one was it? It was his first one, I think it was on comedy center. Does it stay hungry? No, it was that. No, it was before that. And only now are people watching and going,
Starting point is 00:30:26 oh my god, this is an amazing special. Nobody really watched it. And I'm sure that made him even more miserable. Then it comes out with another special. And meanwhile, he's on tour and still making more and more fans by the comedy club before he became theaters. By the second special, things were starting to tip. Then, sign fell to season.
Starting point is 00:30:42 And like you said, Seinfeld goes, I love this guy. I'm going to put him in comedian and cars, which was a big bump. Or like, who's this? Jerry Likes him. It's like being called to the couch. Johnny Carson's going to be like, this is a big deal. And then by the time he had his third special, it was like, boom, and everything. It was a confluence of events that just, you just said, Jerry Seinfeld liked him. And he was powerful enough to make a change. Absolutely. So Steven Spielberg has that power too. Yeah, so I'm one and a half specials in now and it really does take Burr also, not till
Starting point is 00:31:11 his third John Malaney had a special or two before anyone knew him and now he's like the biggest and most respected guy. So it does take a few. John Malaney, you know what I mean? Oh, I know, I know. I don't think he's in my top. You know who's exploding right now or exploded? Theo Vaughn.
Starting point is 00:31:25 Theo Vaughn, who I've known for years, and he's such a warm funny, and he's just naturally hilarious. Yeah, he's funny. I could listen to him just riff. But anyway, but then you look at break. So okay, who gave me the recent break? The great LD, the king.
Starting point is 00:31:40 Larry David, he put you in. Yeah, he put you in. And that's a whole literally hour podcast, and we're not gonna get into how I got in, how I got on that show. What do you mean, I want to know? No, I know, but it's too long and boring of a story. But again, the short version of the story is for,
Starting point is 00:31:56 I don't know, 15 years, I just wanted to be a part of that show. It's the greatest comedy in the history of television. There is no one smarter, brighter, funnier, comedic genius to the highest levels. And I just wanna be some small part of it. So I woke up on my birthday one day and- How long ago?
Starting point is 00:32:15 Like six years ago. When's your birthday? September 14th. Don't start giving me this sign crap that I'm a- No, no, no, no, I'm not gonna say. I'm a Virgo, but what is it? No, I'm a Virgo too. September 16th. This is why we're meant to be together. I'm telling you, that's for a year for an hour, and then it's over. So I wake up on my birthday, now mind you, not only do I admire this show for years, and not only, you know, and I met Larry before, I'm a blah, it's too long to get into,
Starting point is 00:32:38 and my son who became like obsessed with curb when he was like 1516 and just said to me, Dady, Dady, I have a bit about that by the way. He's 22 now and he's taller than me, taller than me, 64. He still calls me daddy, which is adorable. But usually when you hear daddy's like a little like you have, you know, looking up in my house, it's like, Dady, yo, daddy. I'm like, what? Dady, can we get ice cream?
Starting point is 00:33:04 Anyway, so he said to me, Dady, Dady, you should be on that show. I was like, oh, that's so nice, Brandon, but maybe one day into my head, I went, that's never gonna happen. And then in my head, I said, but it could happen. And if you will, it, you never know.
Starting point is 00:33:19 So again, one day, I just, the short version is I wake up on my birthday, and I turn to my wife, Sasha, and I said, I was getting all these emails and texts and very nice, it's nice, but I'm like, oh my God, this is so much work on my birthday, I just want to relax and I'm not working, returning calls and emails and thank you, everyone, for saying happy birthday. Yeah, thank you.
Starting point is 00:33:38 Now I got more work than an average day and I'm like, what kind of birthday is this? And I realized that's Larry's observation. He put that in a movie. I hate birthdays, it's like work, I got to work though. And I went, I love that guy. I went, Sasha, I'm gonna go say hi to Larry David. She goes, what? I go for my birthday. My birthday gift to me is 10 minutes with LD.
Starting point is 00:33:51 Were you friends with him? No, not at all. And she goes, how do you know where he is? I go, well, I know where his office is because the two idiots, Jerry and Larry, when they did their comedians and cars, I was like you know where he is? And I go, well, I know where his office is because the two idiots, Jerry and Larry, when they did their comedians and cars, Jerry picks up Larry in front of his office that is such a recognizable building on Bundy
Starting point is 00:34:15 with the big three, they moved out, so I can say it now, with the big three in front of it, a big number three, and I go, I know that office, it's like eight minutes from my house. So I go, I'm just gonna go there, well, you know, he's there, I don't know, I'm just gonna go, so I just go, okay, you're gonna get arrested. Have fun trespassing Larry David that office, it's like eight minutes from my house. So I go, I'm just gonna go there. Well, you know, he's there. I'm just gonna go. So I just go, okay, you're gonna get arrested. Have fun trespassing Larry David's office.
Starting point is 00:34:29 See you in about what, six, seven years, eight years? So I go, I don't care, I'm saying hi, Larry David. This is my birthday gift and I gotta say hi. And I just, whole lungs literally, it's, I could, hours of it. But thank God, when I finally got there, and I was telling everyone from the guards, everyone was like, I have a meeting with Larry.
Starting point is 00:34:49 And they were like, okay, it's right this way. And literally everyone was like, what are you here for? You have a meeting with Larry? Yes. I would just go, yes. Like security. Oh, where's Larry David's office? You have a meeting with him?
Starting point is 00:34:58 Yes, it's right there in the front. It's on Mark Doran. And then finally, bargin and luckily, as I'm ready for the cuff, you know, Jeff Schaeffer, who's a showrunner, the brilliant, Jeff Schaeffer goes, he lawn, what are you doing here? Because I had known him from Seinfeld
Starting point is 00:35:12 because I worked on a terrible sitcom on the same lot. And I used to just go from my terrible writer's room to the brilliant geniuses at Seinfeld, just hang out and do impressions for them and make them laugh. Jerry and everyone love me. So Jeff knew me from there. And I would just, you know, whatever. I would always try to be funny. And then Jeff goes, what are you
Starting point is 00:35:28 doing here? And I go, funny story. I woke up my birthday and I was, come on back. Cut to, I'm riffing with Larry and having the best time. And he was like, he was like, he loved the fact that I had this. And I'm crazy enough to do, like, it's crazy person. But it's also tenacity and all that. Look what you're talking to. Yeah, and I just said to him, I go, you got, I go, I'm such a fan of yours that I just want some sort of mutual admiration society. So I want you to watch my special, because I'm not watching your special,
Starting point is 00:35:56 I'm gonna figure out you were here 10 minutes from now. And he was just busting my balls, playing all the time. Cut to a year later, I went back on my birthday, they were in New York, waited another year, year three. And again, a whole other long story, but hit it off so well, and finally in that meeting, I said to him, I don't know how much longer you're doing the show, but I need to be a part of this.
Starting point is 00:36:15 And I said that to Jerry, when he was doing his last episode, there were no speaking roles, so they just threw me in as an extra and the diner in the final episode, so I was in that. But just to be a part of it, I'll be a waiter, I just wanna be on set. It's like rarefied air to be on a set like that. It just comes once in a generation.
Starting point is 00:36:31 Like it's just, I just wanna be a part of it. And he goes, well, I know what you could do and I know what you can't do. And I go, what can't I do? He goes, this thing's you can't do. And I was like, whatever. And I leave, I find out, he's talking about me, he's literally trying to find something for me. And like another year goes by,
Starting point is 00:36:51 cut to, he throws me a bone. So you ask do people help? He actually, the cast director goes over to him and says, we have this big actor that wants to do this role, it's one scene, and he goes, ah, why don't you want to do it? Like, what? Yeah, you wanna go? He's really funny. I want, I this role, it's one scene, and he goes, ah, why don't you want to do it? Like, what? Yeah, you wanna go, he's really funny. I like him, get him.
Starting point is 00:37:07 So I do it and kill it. And it's two hours back and forth, improvising. And improvising with Larry David is like tennis with Mac and Row. You hit the ball to him, he hits it back much harder, and then you hit it back hard, then it ups your game, and you're just playing the best tennis of your life. And it was just like, oh my God, I can't believe I'm on curb. And then I get the call. This is what a man she is from Larry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm like, what? No. No. I'm sorry. No. It was cut.
Starting point is 00:37:36 Oh, I'm like, I'm in physical pain and he starts laughing. It was cut for time because when you have an episode that runs long, you know, any scene that doesn't move the story forward, it's gone. And he goes, we were both so funny in it, and it bothers me that it's cut, but there's nothing we could do. But I'll find you something in next season. And I go, how likely is another season? He goes, likely. And then he does another season, hires me for two episodes. My manager goes, you know how you were cut from one, you're in two this season.
Starting point is 00:38:04 Killed it, brought me back for a third, and as the best time of my life, it's my favorite things to date that I've ever done. I'm so proud of it, but that's years in the making and years of just willing it and working it, and going back and showing up, and not waiting. Can I get an audition for Curb? They don't want to see you.
Starting point is 00:38:20 Again, rejection. They don't want to say they're not interested. Come on, just get me in the room. No. All right, I just get me in the room. No, all right, I'll get myself in the room. You gotta do that sometimes. You have to do it all the time. Yeah, all the time.
Starting point is 00:38:30 So you basically, you are bold enough to go there in an office, meet him personally, and that's how you ended up on the show. But again, going back to what I said before, someone does give you a bone once in a while. But also I have to do something for him. So what am I going to do for him? Deliver. Be funny on the show.
Starting point is 00:38:49 Be good. Because if he didn't recognize that, oh, this is a guy that I could riff with on the show, he doesn't care. It's my birthday. It was a put random people on the show. Jeff said, oh, he lawns are really funny. He's been on this and that.
Starting point is 00:39:00 He's so talented. And when he saw it for himself, he went, I could see what you could do on the show. I get it, I see it. So that was my audition, but I couldn't get the audition. So I had to go in an audition by being funny just on the couch with him. But if I didn't have something to offer him,
Starting point is 00:39:16 if I didn't have that rapport with him, he never would have, but it was again, a two way thing, we both mutually beneficial. I kicked ass on the show and he did, you show and he did me a bit of a solid. How has that changed your trajectory in the comedy world? Not in any way, so it hasn't really moved the dial. Larry asked me that. I go, not yet, but it's given some nice recognition
Starting point is 00:39:39 to casting people and network executives like, oh, he's really good. I got so much positive feedback from being on that show. And it was, oh, he's really good. Like, I got so much positive feedback from being on that show. And it was just like, he was really good. You were the Hulu executive. Of the Hulu executive. I called it Julu.
Starting point is 00:39:51 Welcome to Julu. Yes, I remember that. Yes. And so wait, so it hasn't moved the needle at all. But the other thing is, because he's a fan of yours and he saw what you can do, doesn't can't he tell other people? Yeah, and he does and who knows what happens and who knows what it would lead to and when.
Starting point is 00:40:06 The fact is, it's its own great moment in my career and life that even if it doesn't lead to things, you know, and you make new opportunities for yourself, whatever, it's its own thing. I can't believe I had a recurring role on curb your enthusiasm to this minute. So it's its own thing, whether it leads to things and people see and go, he was good in that.
Starting point is 00:40:24 He's funny in that. I don't know. We'll see. So how do you make your money now? Like what's your main income generator? Are you from a mail prostitution? I offer handies. I do. I do really well with my, I'm a lefty. Okay, I'll keep that in mind when someone asks. No, if someone comes to me and is looking for someone like you, I can always recommend. I do stand up and I do projects and I sell scripts. And I, you know, I'm always working and developing shows. How often are you standing up, like doing stand-ups?
Starting point is 00:40:55 I'm like, almost nightly, you saw me Wednesday night at the Saban Theater, sold out, not important, 1900 people. Anyway, and those gigs pay, you know, and I do drive it. Did you get paid for that? Yeah, I get paid. I don't leave the house without getting paid. Although this was a mistake. Yeah, I do gigs and fundraisers and corporates and Jewish gigs. And, you know, I do. What's the price range? I come up to you making when you leave the house.
Starting point is 00:41:18 Like, what's the price range for someone at your level? You're so Jewish. I don't know. This is like what people say to me when they say, we saw you on curb you with fabulous, what do you make for a show like that? No non-Jewish fans can over and ask that second part. They just go, you were good on the show. What do you get for a show?
Starting point is 00:41:36 I mean, it's a recurring role. It's not a series regular. Now that my agent negotiating what I should've made, it varies. But it's good enough that I have a nice house, thank God, and for kids to support. But it's a struggle, life's a struggle, I'm not a multi-millionaire, but I'm doing okay,
Starting point is 00:41:55 I'm paying the bills. But you're constantly, consistently working. Constantly, I'm working right now. This is work, you think this is fun for me? Yeah, I was gonna say. I can be'm working right now. This is work. You think this is fun for me? Yeah, I was gonna say. I could be napping right now. Because you're on all, are you on all the time?
Starting point is 00:42:11 I asked my kids, so my kids get this question. Is your dad funny? No, no. But again, if I'm still. Because you're funny now. I'm okay. And it's you're pretty funny. I'm all right, but I'm also trying to speak truth here
Starting point is 00:42:23 and maybe give a lesson of life for two. You are, you think? Listen, I'm thoroughly enjoying this. By the way, so much better so far than Chevy, right? Oh, you're the best. You're one of my favorites. I told you I was looking for, I couldn't sleep last night. Wow, we were that excited.
Starting point is 00:42:39 Yes, wow. I was thinking about you last night too, but in a different way. Anyway, I was scrolling through your Instagram going, oh, I get to see her tomorrow. It's exciting, though, but you're so funny. Thank you, I try. So wait a second. My wife doesn't think so anymore.
Starting point is 00:42:57 Well, wait a second. I was going to ask you a couple of these questions. So, okay, was she brought up to be orthodox? No, not at all. Like conservative. And she, like, you know, mall every Saturday orthodox? No, not at all. Like conservative. And she, like, you know, mall every Saturday, she's like a scars day, I'll go, I did well.
Starting point is 00:43:09 Beautiful, smart, funny, and like, came from a wealthy family. Oh, that's why you're okay then. No, because they pretty much lost everything. So thank God I didn't marry for money. Oh God. And don't let that be another lesson, kids. Don't marry for money comes and goes.
Starting point is 00:43:24 Do not marry for money. I married because I fell madly in love with her the night I met her when I was 15 years old on the eve of my 16th birthday and I turned to my friend Leon Lowenstein after spending three hours with her and I said, I'm marrying that girl. And she was like, no, you're not. Really?
Starting point is 00:43:41 And she ended up marrying her. Yeah, and then six months of best friends and courtship. And she's like, you know, you're ugly and stupid. And then, which I am. And then finally, you just keep working it. And then one day she just woke up and went, yeah, I like you and you're kind of cute. And let's go out.
Starting point is 00:43:56 Did she work too? Is she a comedian? No, no, no, she raised the four kids. Yeah. Oh, and I would not marry a comedian. Oh, no. I was gonna say, are you, are you, do you have depression because I find like a lot? No, I'm not. would not marry a comedian. Oh, no. I was gonna say, are you, do you have depression
Starting point is 00:44:06 because I find like a lot of... No, it's zero depression. I get down and I, you know, when showbiz and rejection and life gets you down, I get down, but I always get through it and my kids make me so happy. And I'm a happy person, genuinely and generally, I'm happy. I'm not one of those tormented souls.
Starting point is 00:44:25 I don't do comedy. And a lot of my heroes are like that. Billy Crystal, Martin Short, Eddie Murphy. These are like Howie Mandel. These are not people who are just depressed. You know, and then I have a few heroes that were like, Richard Lewis comes out of depression. Gary Goldman is one of the guys now,
Starting point is 00:44:41 who talks about depression and his specials and everything. But that's not me. So by the way, so does how he manned out. Yeah, and then he has, yeah, definitely issue. Yeah, how he was a bad, yeah. But they're all. Because he's very depressed, a lot of anxiety.
Starting point is 00:44:53 And he is one of those who has that. And he has to distract and also deem. And he has to distract. And he has to distract himself constantly. But then she is a sweetest guy. But also, just generally happy and just wants to make other people happy. But I have no, I was making my dad crack up last night.
Starting point is 00:45:12 He's in town, they're both in town, my parents, and they're staying at our house, and I was doing like these funny voices, making him crack up, and I literally had the thought, it's so nice to see my dad laugh, but I'm not one of those comedians that grew up going, I just wanted to make my parents laugh. And once they laughed, I said, this is what I have to do. I always made them laugh. And they always laughed at other things, other people. And they weren't depressed. And I wasn't depressed. And it was a happy childhood. You seem like you had a really nice life. Such a nice life. And I got to say, it's weirdly being passed on because my kids are so It's weirdly being passed on because my kids are so, thank God, happy and mentally healthy.
Starting point is 00:45:47 It's crazy how much people point out your kids are unbelievable. And the perfect example is last week at my daughter Emily's graduation from eighth grade, we were in this school. What school? My monodies. It's a private school,
Starting point is 00:46:02 I'm called my monodies, or as I like to call it, my money dies because it's expensive Anyway, these private schools are crazy So we spent 20 years there and every parent gets like a it's like a tank top that has the number of years their kids were there So my first son is 23 now was there at three and then another daughter and then another son and then Emily So yeah, we spent what 800 grand get a freaking t-shirt. But anyway, so the head of school stopped the ceremony and said, you know, we're gonna honor the parents who were the 20 year parents, we have a 19 year parents,
Starting point is 00:46:35 and then we have a 23 year parents. But I just wanna say, he goes, I don't usually do this. The gold family, Sashinilon, I don't know what you did, but your four kids are like the sweetest, happiest, near perfect kids I've ever seen. I was bawling.
Starting point is 00:46:52 You really? The nachos, I was sitting there like this, just shaking, like so happy tears of like, I can't believe he's saying this about, nothing makes me happier than accompaniment up my kids. When people come over me and they go, you're the funniest guy, that makes me happy when they go, your kids are the best, that's the best.
Starting point is 00:47:11 I totally, as a parent, I totally agree. But you have a beautiful energy about you. I'm trying. No, you do. That's what's so unique about you being a comedian because the most of the comedians I know. Yeah, have a dark side. You know that, I don't know, you don't know this.
Starting point is 00:47:24 I'll tell you this. I've made it to tell you when we were like back and forth the team, before I blew off. Yeah, well, in the middle of the blowing off, yeah. Oh yeah, right, yeah. I was telling you I was from Canada and I came here and I worked for three arts and I was working in the comedy area.
Starting point is 00:47:37 Yeah. And it was so interesting to me because I was always a huge fan of comedy. And when I started meeting all of these people who I loved so much, and they were so miserable and so down, and they were like these clinically depressed, every one of them was more clinically depressed than the other. It was so sad to me that like the other end of the pendulum
Starting point is 00:47:57 was the comedy. But it's so much of that is chemical biological you can't control it. So I take no credit for it. But why are they going to, why is that, why is comedy the, because what gets you out of depression more than writing jokes and telling jokes
Starting point is 00:48:10 and laughing yourself at what you're working on all day and making other people laugh? I mean, that really can get you out of depression. But it does it because you need, it's also the concept of validation. Nothing gets out of depression, but good medication and some therapy and all that. But it just helps.
Starting point is 00:48:23 Yeah. It just helps. Who do you find to be but it just helps. Yeah. It just helps. Who do you find to be really funny? You. Yeah. Right now it's, rock is my favorite. Chris Rock and I get to be friendly with Dan. Chris Rock's my absolute favorite.
Starting point is 00:48:35 He's just like of all time. He's his energy and his master craft. He's a brilliant genius. Of course Dave, all social'll well what kind of question I know this is gonna be like I wasn't gonna like be down like screaming at yeah, I never found him to be so hilarious Yeah, I think he's like clever. Okay. No, so have you seen she'll show back when I did it I wasn't a huge fan back then either. Okay, so Dave is also masterful at sketch comedy,
Starting point is 00:49:07 at being, you know, the Rick James character, the characters he does. The sketch comedy I got, I get. But then his material, his writing, his phenomenal, and he has a cadence and a rhythm that is so original, unique. And he also sort of doesn't care, so he takes his time and those kind of comedians, Cosby was like that too.
Starting point is 00:49:27 Take me, if I'm not getting a laugh every second, I'm like, nerve, I start freaking out. I'm so relaxed on stage. My nerves are before. You are? Oh, once the nerves are before, you should have seen backstage at Saban, you were at the theater, but you weren't backstage.
Starting point is 00:49:41 Backstage, it's Michael Rappivore, just pacing, going, oh, fuck, I can't do this. Just everyone's a wreck and we're going over our stuff. Eli Lanner was like, I don't want to go. Everyone's going, I don't want to. We all just want it to be over. We also want it to be over before. But the truth is, the second you get out there, for me at least, my nerves completely
Starting point is 00:50:01 come. I'm in a zone. I'm having a great time. And I'm just like, especially when you're rocking it, it's the best thing in the world. But there's no nerves. I'll never forget hearing Frank Sinatra was nervous before every show.
Starting point is 00:50:13 And I'm like, why? You're the most iconic legendary singer that ever lived. So everyone there is dying to see you. You could stand out there and fart, and they'll just have a long nuts. You just have to sing a few songs, which you've done 80,000 times enough to come up with stuff
Starting point is 00:50:30 and make people laugh. Just sing your stupid songs for crying out loud. What are you nervous about exactly? If he was nervous, then I could be nervous. And I am nervous before, not during, and then after it's euphoria when it's good, when it's bad. And I never get depressed.
Starting point is 00:50:44 It's like you're never as, sometimes you come off stage and you just say, I'm the worst comedian in the history of comedy. And sometimes you come off stage and go, is anyone better than me? I don't think so, it's not possible. Who's better than what just happened in that hour of just destruction and standing-o?
Starting point is 00:51:01 Nobody. So you're wrong on both counts. You're not the worst, You're not the best. You have a good set of bets and you're usually good. Like, I was born good. That's the thing. People say, you do these impressions. I don't take credit for that.
Starting point is 00:51:13 That's an innate God-given talent. Oh, you know what? I tell a joke. You know what I write a joke. I don't take credit for that. I work at the craft, but I don't take credit for it. It's talent that's God-given. Like, you know, the guy that can nail the violin or the any talent. Any that's God-given like, you know, the guy that can nail the
Starting point is 00:51:25 violin or the any talent. Any talent is God-given. But then you work at your craft and you become good. So I was born good. I really, really worked hard, hard on being great, really worked hard on being great. I think right now I'm at the cusp of great and the goal is to be one of the greats. And whether or not I ever achieve that, who knows? But that's what I'm working towards. So you start with this, okay, I have a little talent. I'm already funny. I know how to do an impression, make people laugh.
Starting point is 00:51:53 That's easy. That's easy. And I didn't work hard in my first few years as a standup because I had this natural gift and I would just get up and riff and do impressions. People were like, ooh, this is so good. Because it's like a magic trick. And you impressionally, how's he do that?
Starting point is 00:52:04 So I just did that and then coasted. And then I went and then Chris Rock and Seinfeld actually inspired me to work at the craft and go, oh, no, every word is important. And everything you say and bits are everything. And let me work at this a little bit and stop doing voices and impressions and get a voice of my own and have a point of view.
Starting point is 00:52:21 And that's when after 10, 15 years, I became where I'm at now, almost great. And now I just wanna hit great, pass great, and maybe one day in another 10 years be one of the greats. Yes, but you are great, but I know, so how many? I was waiting for that. Well, that's a good one.
Starting point is 00:52:40 How many hours do you work a day on new material? I try to do a few hours a day to pens. If I just did a big thing like that roast of anti-Semitism, which we still haven't discussed, you know, I thought you were a good interviewer and you still haven't asked me. I've been trying to, okay, go on. No, I know, but like after a thing like that,
Starting point is 00:53:00 which is just a ballagon of I'm producing it, I'm hosting it and you wanna take a day of like, I'm not writing a joke todayogon of, I'm producing it, I'm hosting it, and you want to take a day of like, I'm not writing a joke today and I want to relax or like Thursday and today, I'm not, I didn't do any work because Wednesday night and leading up to Wednesday night for weeks of preparing for that big show and it's a TV taping and all that. Who are they going to be aired, by the way? They're going to try to sell it to a streamer. Oh, they haven't sold it yet.
Starting point is 00:53:20 No, no, they, they put it up, they, we produced it and, and, and put it on, but no, now they have to edit it and show it around town. It'll never sell. People hate Jews. But that's weird because don't Jews run the whole thing as Jews in the media. And because of that, it's not. As I said in my act, if the Jews ran Hollywood, don't you think I would have hosted the Oscars by now and not the Khabad Telephone.
Starting point is 00:53:42 If the Jews ran Hollywood, wouldn't I have had a series regular role in the last nine years and not these little bit parts of the phone? That's what I just said to you. Right? I mean, if not for Larry David, I wouldn't have health insurance, okay? So the Jews don't run anything.
Starting point is 00:53:56 Nothing. Again, Spielberg, yeah, he's a successful guy, but there's also Scorsese, who's a successful Italian. A major person. It's like Jews don't run anything. There's no cabals, there's no meetings, there's no nothing.
Starting point is 00:54:07 Because if there is, where I gotta get in on that shit. I agree. Get me in on that banking and Hollywood. Where is all that? Well, why am I not doing that well? Also, I feel like because of all the anti-Semitism, it's gonna be harder now to even sell it, to be honest. Well, that I disagree with.
Starting point is 00:54:24 Because it is so zeitgeisty and popular, it really is in the culture. So pop culture has to reflect culture, and we have to show that, listen, it's been a lot for us, and I mean, she's been beating up on the streets. There was a hate incident against my family that I wrote about. In 2014 or so? Yeah, where we were like threatened to hope you'd die and a whole thing, a carful of guys. It was rough. And when it hits home, you go, oh, I've heard about this anti-Semitism
Starting point is 00:54:56 thing. Well, it's hit home for a lot of people now. And a lot of plays from Pittsburgh where so many people were murdered. Terrible. There's a lot going on. So we needed a night to take a break and to laugh and then to get back. We called it, you know, we punched back at hatred with punch lines. And that's what we did. And everyone in the room, it was just under 2,000 people there,
Starting point is 00:55:18 feeling that like that sigh of relief of, just, oh, we needed to laugh about ourselves being hated and laugh at the haters and how ignorant and biased and dumb they are. So who did you try to get Jewish? By the way, do you hear my, you know, my favorite joke of the night was? Which one?
Starting point is 00:55:35 I said, you were moody. I said, no, my favorite joke of myself. I'm not gonna quote his joke. You're good friends with him though, aren't you? We're best friends, we're comedy brothers. He's very funny. He's hilarious. So he killed it that night too. He killed it that night. He was like him how he had it was him and how he yeah and Jeff were good. That's it.
Starting point is 00:55:52 Let me tell you the truth. You're excellent. Thank you. Modi was excellent. Thank you. Jeff was good really good. Yeah. How he was really how he was excellent. Thank you. Anyway so oh my favorite joke and then I actually there were a few one was So I started by saying welcome to the roast of anti-Semitism. We're celebrating 5,000 years of fighting hatred and allergies That was hilarious. Yeah, and then my favorite I go, but yeah, I go Why is this night different from all of the nights, which is just a famous thing from the saider?
Starting point is 00:56:25 You like that? Yeah, and I go, because tonight, we're not roasting a brisket. Tonight, we're not roasting a flunkin', which is a piece of meat. We're roasting a farrican, you know, and I go, and we're gonna take a page out of Jesus' book, but except we're gonna walk on Roger Waters, which is such a great joke. Because again, Roger Waters is out there doing concerts in Germany, wearing like Nazi stuff and talking about Anne Frank. This is insane, it's insane.
Starting point is 00:56:50 Can people leave this happening? This is absolutely insane and it's acceptable and there's 30,000 people cheering and it's crazy. So again, fighting back with jokes. Who's this your idea to put it in? No, no, no, no. I got a lot of credit, incorrect, displaced credit. We see you produce it. So who's whose idea was it stand up comedy?
Starting point is 00:57:10 There was a guy that you don't know who just said we got to do something and he raised money. I don't know what it was. Half a million, whatever, not a lot of money. And most of the comedies did it on the, you know, on the cheap as we say. And we just put it together quickly and as best as we can. How long did it take to put it together? Like five, six, seven months. Yeah, I didn't see much advertising for it. No, we just knew who was doing it. I like got all my friends I called in favors,
Starting point is 00:57:37 which are Bloom and how he manned hell. And all these people that I've known. Did you ask Sarah Silverman, did you? Yeah, but Sarah's grieving. So, Sarah said, I wish I could be there. I was doing another benefit with Sarah and Jeff Ross and I go, so you can't, she goes, I've known. Did you ask Sarah Silverman? Did you ask Sarah's grieving? So Sarah said, I wish I could be there. I was doing another benefit with Sarah and Jeff Ross and I go, so you can't, she goes, I'm grieving. I shouldn't be here tonight, but you know, this was a commitment and I keep my commitments
Starting point is 00:57:54 from months ago. So Sarah would have been perfect. I wanted her to host also. Yeah. She's the perfect because she does all that stuff. Yeah. Who else did you ask? I didn't know.
Starting point is 00:58:03 Who else did I ask? Oh, Deborah Messing wasn't available. I wanted to hear the host. She's a big outspoken advocate. Right now, she's for sure. Yeah. Right now, she's doing great. And we didn't even need a comedian.
Starting point is 00:58:12 We needed a figure to just host it. And the comedians will make the jokes. Yeah. Who else did you ask? You want my... This is... Aren't these podcasts usually about like, what's your to-do list? Didn't you just have a podcast?
Starting point is 00:58:22 What's your bucket list? Yes. Now it's the, who was your rejected list? Who hates you so much that they said, we don't even want to help you or your people. I want to know the people. People like to know the nitty-gritty. By anti-Semitism.
Starting point is 00:58:35 I want to know who, yeah, who else was on the list. Honestly, most of the people that said no, great people like Billy Crystal said no, because Billy's in New York, so he can't do it that way. I love him too. He's the reason I'm doing com. I said on stage, it's him, Eddie Murphy, and how he mandal are the reason I'm on the stage.
Starting point is 00:58:52 Did you ask Eddie Murphy? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, like, when I would watch Eddie as a kid, I would just be like, I know I'll never be that good, but I could strive to try to be almost as good. What happened, though? He was hilarious, and then people lose their edge. I still think he's hilarious, and when you see him, he'll never be that kid again, because of age, because of fame and money just gets into your head.
Starting point is 00:59:22 And you just can't repeat that level of greatness. And he knows that. And that's why he keeps saying, I'm gonna go back to stand up, but he never has in what, 20 years. Yeah. Because he knows he'll never be as great as that. Some people get better with age.
Starting point is 00:59:35 He was at the top of his game, the most brilliant, amazing, powerful rock star comedian in the history of comedy at 19, 20, 20, once, 22. I know. And he knows, like, can't recapture that. So, but he's still hilarious. He still goes on, like, Kimmel and all of a sudden,
Starting point is 00:59:50 he starts riffing, you go, oh, there's Eddie. He just doesn't need to be funny. Yeah, yeah. He's got nothing to prove. So, he's just much more chill and relaxed, but when it comes out, you just go, oh, Eddie, you're just the best. He's just the best.
Starting point is 01:00:02 I think Eddie is, to me, top five most talented humans that ever walked the earth with prints and Sammy Davis Jr. And who else is the most talented humans on earth? Now Jamie Foxx also is one of the most talented humans on earth. Jim Carries up there, Robin was up there. There's like top two.
Starting point is 01:00:23 These people aren't even human. They're just talent in a human form. Yeah. They're just talent. That's why some of them lead these sort of lives, or a mysterious or all, or a different person. Well, because they're so domineering in one area,
Starting point is 01:00:36 that leaves your other stuff to be blind spots in the world. Yes, correct. Because you're so good. Correct. So who else? Like me. Yeah, you are, but you really, but you maybe not. Take it easy. You're very good. I'm not that level, but I're so good. Correct. So who else? Like me. Yeah, you are. No, but you really, but you maybe not.
Starting point is 01:00:47 Take it easy. You're very good. I'm not that level, but I'm all right. OK, who else would you say right now are your favorite stand-ups or at that top? I love Sebastian like you love him. Yeah. And I love Malini, John Malini, Gary Gullman, or I mentioned, Burr. All these guys.
Starting point is 01:01:02 Burr is amazing still. He's been consistently good. And he's been consistently great because he works as Tuch still. He's been consistently good. He's consistently great because he works as Tuchas. He's amazing. Yeah, he's amazing. He's hilarious. And Louis, I know we're not allowed to say we like that. No, I think he's he came. He's he's back with the vengeance. He's back with the by the way. Never touched anyone but himself. Okay, I was going to say he knew. Well, no, but he never did. He only assaulted himself. No, listen, what he did obviously wasn't right.
Starting point is 01:01:23 It's also to me. I'm'm not gonna defend what he did, but I will say you can't conflate the Weinstein's and Cosby's with Louis. These were rapists, and he's a guy who was raping himself. He's a guy who did this really weird thing to women that he shouldn't have done. By the way, he did ask, what a mensch. Hey, do you mind watching?
Starting point is 01:01:42 I mean, this is a mensch. Anyway. But again, it's not a salt and rate, which is unforgivable and inexcusable. There's no like sympathy for Louis going, well, maybe as his weird sexual picadilla, we should try to help him and say we just want to cancel him. But he wasn't assaulting.
Starting point is 01:01:57 He was hurting those women doing a lot of trauma to them, but not the kind of trauma that, you know, rape victim God forbid experience for the rest of their life. And that's why it came back with a vengeance. Yeah. Way easier to get over a guy going, want to watch me jerk off than being raped, which you never get over. One million percent. Yeah. Okay. Who else do you like?
Starting point is 01:02:15 By the way, you want to watch? Yeah. Anyway. Why are we talking about other comedians? I want to know who you're favorite. I'm here. Are you one of your favorites? I want to know who you're favorite. I want to know who you're favorite. Yeah, it's all rock.
Starting point is 01:02:28 And it's, yeah. Again, I get to go and it's weird because I get to go and hang out with Chris backstage. Are you friends with him? Yeah, and he's doing an arena. I'm like backstage with him for an hour and just going over bits with him and he's looking at all the bits.
Starting point is 01:02:42 And it is amazing that how much work he puts into and how he still cares. Again, you would think I have to 30 years of being a rock star. You don't put that much where you don't care that, this is what he's doing with Vorschau. Like this and then he's cracking some jokes and talking to people and then studying the list.
Starting point is 01:02:57 And he's going, who's going on the bench tonight? Who's sitting on the bench tonight? He's picking bits that he's not gonna do and bits that he is gonna do. And he's going over stuff. And that's how you have to do it. Did you do that too? I'm made fun of for my obsession with just,
Starting point is 01:03:10 I have my, I literally have a bullet point on an index card and I bring it up on the stool with a drink, and anytime I take a drink, I'm cheating and just looking at where am I and what's next and whatever. It's like a little safety net, and I'm always studying it. I'm always going over. And also some of your best jokes come to you right before you hit the stage
Starting point is 01:03:30 because your mind is on hyper focus. And Steve Martin famously said, like never talk to a performer just before they're going on because they're in such a zone where they're going over things and they're trying to, you know, psych themself up and remember jokes. What am I gonna open with?
Starting point is 01:03:44 People who come over to me before a show and I'm standing back there and like, hey, you like, I just himself up and remembered jokes. What am I gonna open with? People who come over to me before a show, and I'm standing back there and like, hey, you like, I just wanna tell you, there's a funny thing, I go, no, I just gotta go over this, sorry. And then you come off as rude almost. I'm like, I gotta work, I gotta work, I'm about, there's 2,000 people, I gotta work.
Starting point is 01:03:57 And you have to focus before you go on. And if you don't, but again, then there are guys like Chappelle. And I've said this about Dave. Chappelle transcends comedy. He's almost like a poet with punchlines because he doesn't even have, and he puts in a lot of work, but he can just walk up and riff for four hours and it'll be like the funniest show you've ever seen.
Starting point is 01:04:17 Surprise that you have such good taste. You love me. And you don't like Dave. That's surprising. You're like, do a deep dive. I don't dislike him. I don't, he's not one of my absolute favorites. He doesn't make me belly laugh.
Starting point is 01:04:27 I, he's just not my style. Well everyone else is calling him the goat. I'm, everyone thinks he's the best thing in the world. And you know, his cadence, it's the style, it's the delivery. Like, I don't think he even holds a candle to Chris Rock. I don't, I think you're- It's different styles, but yeah, they're both to me the goats
Starting point is 01:04:44 and getting to see them both doing an arena tour, like a few times, last six months is just so fun. So you wanna get on the tour? Yeah, it would be nice, guys. I mean, I'm around, I'm doing this, I'm not doing much, come on. I love it. One thing I love doing is taking ideas
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Starting point is 01:08:22 Mass I'm not anti-mask. I wore them and they helped. And I don't know about vaccines, although I am triple-vax, I have no evidence whether they worked or not. We do know that people stop dying, but we don't know as did the virus become less and less deadly. So no one knows, anyone that says they know for sure whether vacks or not are crazy.
Starting point is 01:08:43 So that's why I'm a moderate in my politics. I see both sides of everything. Me too, I'm the same way. The vaccine, I have noticed something though in my, in like around, in people's in their 40s. People are dropping dead of heart attacks. It's weird. They have vacks.
Starting point is 01:08:59 We've been vaccinated. So then you go, is that vacks? And by the way, I have a doctor friend who, and every doctor says take the flu shot. And we all take flu shots, but it's like my good smart doctor, not Larry Gannick College, it's not the guy who got the heart, or the surgeon guy, the general surgeon friend, even smarter than the vagina doctor.
Starting point is 01:09:17 Oh, was he the one in the first row that you put in there or no? I didn't put anyone in the first row. My family was with you in the back of, even my mother said to me, I mean, that's what you, I go, do you think I put you there? I said, hook these 38 people up with seats. And the truth is, I never like anyone I know, especially no one love, like you and mom.
Starting point is 01:09:38 In the front or front. I don't, once I see a face I'm familiar with, I'm now thinking of them and I'm thinking, what are they thinking and I'm thinking? Really? When it's a sea of strangers, that's all I want. I never want to see my parents, my wife, I never want to see them.
Starting point is 01:09:52 Who were in the first few rows? I have no idea, I had no control of receiving. She can't get over the fact that this big macho big shot who's got around podcast half a million followers, why was I in the back? That's not true. I did control that. You weren't in the very back, were you?
Starting point is 01:10:08 I was, yeah, I had to move on the balcony. Do you know what I said? On the rear balcony, I was in the back, back, back. I had to like, finagle to get to the second. Finegal is Yiddish for. Push. Yeah, be pushing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:24 To the front middle of the balcony. And it was very difficult. Someone came around and they're like, I think, Mr. Irwin, my seat. And I was like, really, on the balcony, and they're like, Jennifer Cohen. And I'm like, oh my god. It was a someone else I know.
Starting point is 01:10:38 Well, when I am backstage again, going over jokes that I've never done before, which is the hardest thing to do. Which one, the Roger water? Yeah, so the first few minutes were just roast jokes. Yeah. And I can't go try out. And you integrate other stuff.
Starting point is 01:10:51 Yeah. And then I did bits that I'm used to, and that's just fun. And that's fun, yeah. Yeah. But people love when you did Donald Trump. Thank you. Yeah. And we did very well.
Starting point is 01:10:59 But when you do like jokes that you've never done before, I just apologized to Howie. I said, how you killed it, you got I just apologized to Howie. I said, how are you killed it? You got the standing ovation you deserve, but my one regret of the night is when you were in the green room, which is so gracious, as he had his own dressing room, but instead he sat with all the comedians, just hung out.
Starting point is 01:11:14 Oh, that's so nice. I go, when you were in the green room, I didn't get to, I would pop in, but I didn't get to hang. All I wanted to do was hang with my comedy brothers and sisters, and I couldn't hang because I was so, I don't know these jokes and I've never done them before. And if you go out unprepared, you're just gonna die,
Starting point is 01:11:30 you're gonna flubby. Jokes that you've never tried, a whole point of doing comedies, you hone it for years and then you go out and tape it or whatever. But if it's a big deal and they're taping it, you don't just try out new jokes, but I had to because it's a different thing
Starting point is 01:11:42 than my act as a roast of anti-semitism. So I was just so focused, I said, I'm so sorry to get to hang with you. Can we hang it? Calls me, he called me into the office. jokes, but I had to because it's a different thing than my act as a roast of anti-semitism. So I was just so focused. I said, I'm so sorry to get to hang with you. Can we hang and call me, call me into the office. We're going to come hang out next week. You are? Yeah, you want to come? Yes. You're not invited. He is though. What's your name again? Williams invited.
Starting point is 01:11:57 I can't go. I was going to ask him. By the way, he'll appreciate the mass thing. You would actually. One joke I didn't do about howie in the intro, Howie Mandel is a well-known germaphobe. You know, he's afraid of Germans. Anyway. Did he live in LA? He does. You want his address?
Starting point is 01:12:14 Yeah. It's 49, 32. Burton Way. Yeah. I don't know his address. Can we be friends? He gave me his number. You know, exciting.
Starting point is 01:12:22 He has to have a number. Well, how did you get his number the first place? So weird. He gave it to me. This gave me his number. You know, exciting is to have a number. Well, how did you get his number the first place? So weird to, he gave it to me. No, not his number. I mean, how did you get this number, not his number? But when he was on your core. Good question. He was on your core and team show.
Starting point is 01:12:34 Yeah. You didn't connect back when he was on your core and team show. Correct. I found out through an agent friend who his tour manager wasn't emailed him. And then he goes, how he's a fan of yours and you guys have worked together. And we did like just for laughs and Montreal together,
Starting point is 01:12:46 but we weren't friends at all. I was just admire and we got to work. He hosted this big Gallaud. I was one of the young comedians on. He was very nice like from day one. How did I get Larry David's number? That's a question. Wanna hear that?
Starting point is 01:12:58 I know it. No. How? You don't know it? Yeah, I do. You're on the show with him. Doesn't matter. You think he gives out his number to every guest star Schmuck that comes on that show?
Starting point is 01:13:06 He liked you. You had a... I don't care. He's not giving me his number. You developed a relationship. He has never given me his number. What do I need to do to get his number from you? That's what I want to know. And how we mendell. We'll discuss after when we stop rolling.
Starting point is 01:13:20 How are mendell's honestly my favorite also. Yeah, I'll make it happen. He's my... You have such good taste in comedy. I'm not just saying that because you love me. Other than the Chappelle thing, you really get it. Like how he is so genuinely funny. Beyond.
Starting point is 01:13:35 Right? And that's why when he rips a lot of it's just improv. He, he, he improv on the stage. About 40% of his stuff. Because when he did that thing with the surgeon, the woman and the sleeping, I was on It was unbelievable. And he had bullet points. He knew what he was gonna do and then he veered off and just He killed it. That was his whole act. Larry David's number. Larry made a
Starting point is 01:13:55 Critical, what's the word? Crucial mistake. What's the biggest kind of mistake you could make? Big no like a like a critical on your mental. Monumental error. He called me. And always number was on it. And he called me. This was weird because he was on Christmas vacation with. Chevy Chase. No, with his friends. And he calls me on the phone rings. I see a 310 number. What was the rest of the number? 555555. So he calls me up 310 number. What was the rest of the number? 555555555. So he calls me up 310 and I go, I don't know this number, usually I just hit ignore.
Starting point is 01:14:30 I don't know why I answered it. I don't know the number I just went, hello, and he goes, Mr. Gold? Yeah, this is Larry David and I go, no, it isn't. And again, I'd already worked with him, but he just, he doesn't call other comedians. He just doesn't call anybody. He calls for the Obama.
Starting point is 01:14:48 He does? Yes. He doesn't seem like he'd care about Obama. Right, but my point is, he's what I said to him. I go, at lunch on curb, I said, you know what you are. You're the Godol Ha-Dor, which in Hebrew means the great one of this generation.
Starting point is 01:15:04 And he didn't know what it meant either. I go, he goes, what is it? I go, well, like in every generation there's a rabbi that everyone admires, everyone goes to and everyone follows. You're the great one of this generation. So the great one doesn't give out his number to the okay to good ones of their generation.
Starting point is 01:15:20 That's me. But you know what I mean? You just don't give out your number. And he's a reclusive, he doesn't. He's a reclusive. I thought he isn't reclusive. Yeah. So he calls. He goes, I'm hearing whatever. And vacation with a few friends. Can I you mind if I put you on speakerphone to do your Howard Stern for us? We were just talking about how good your Howard Stern is. And I go absolutely. And then just right away, oh, well, this is very exciting, Rob. And let
Starting point is 01:15:41 me tell you something. This Larry David, he's got some hot wife on him. Oh, what is she a deacup? Anyway, so I started doing it, they're all laughing. And then he goes, thank you so much, sorry to bother him. Oh, they call me, I'll entertain you and your friends whenever you want. And then I, he wouldn't divulge. Probably like Howard's, maybe even Howard's.
Starting point is 01:16:00 So I hang out, I go, this is Larry, I'm saving this. And then I'm very careful in the text. It's every few months. I'll send them like I just said, a James Corden set. And I went, I think you'll like this. And he's quoting it and going, great set, which again, means the world to me again,
Starting point is 01:16:17 back to our original. A compliment from Larry David, quoting my jokes and saying, great set, cuts all the depression, not depression, the rejection and just makes everything go away. It lets you ride for three or four months. It gives you more time.
Starting point is 01:16:32 More than that from a guy like him or Dave or yeah. He's like to me the best ever. He changed the way people talk on television. 100%. I felt no one talked about minutia and little observations. Exactly. How much of it you think was Larry David versus Jerry in that Because Jerry is very much about observation it is and you're I'm not gonna discredit Jerry
Starting point is 01:16:53 It's a Yin and Yang so any friends. Yeah, of course Yeah, yeah, and I would I would put it at and this is just my Guest of mitt which I don't know why people add the myth when you could just go, this is just my guess. Maybe it is sound smarter. Yeah, I don't know why you know. What an idiot I am for saying guesstimate. This is my best guess.
Starting point is 01:17:14 That's also you didn't need the word best. 65% Larry, 35% Cherry. Because when you watch Curb, you go, oh, I think it's all Larry. Yeah, because that's exactly it. So Larry ran it. He was the showrunner and co-creator, but the two of them wrote it together. And again, that is Jerry's act and without Without Larry and you without the two of them there wouldn't have been signed felt so they'd helped each other and there wouldn't have been curb. Okay. Again, mutually, we're all full circle. Beneficial. Yeah, it's all full circle. This will be your best podcast ever.
Starting point is 01:17:47 Oh, easily. How about women? Which ones do you like? Women aren't funny. That was a joke. Imagine if you just took that clip out and went there. No, I would never. Ali Wong.
Starting point is 01:17:56 Ali Wong. People who say that, it really makes me sick to say that because I grew up on Carol, but not like hero worship of Carol. It's great. Ali Wong is very funny. Ali Wong is a genius and I remember seeing Lily Tomlin, of course. No, not Lily Tomlin. I'm talking about Tamp.
Starting point is 01:18:09 Oh, yeah, yeah, she's very good. I know you're talking about it. So, Allie Wong, I saw at the laugh factory. Again, another month before she popped, not just her, but her special came out. I had never seen her in my life and she comes on on the laugh factory, and I'm watching her going. And the audience says, dying and every joke is just perfect and the way she hits it in her timing.
Starting point is 01:18:32 It comes with, say, I go to her. How have we never met? She was like, I don't know. We all know how I go to see her. Like, you're amazing. Like, you are so top of your game and already, and I've never seen you or made you, so I was like, yeah, I have some things going on.
Starting point is 01:18:47 I'm writing on a show and I have a Netflix special, all you do, I even know that. And then the special comes out, and again, the whole world recognizes what you see at a laugh factory in one minute. Yeah. You go, that's greatness right there. Well, it's so many funny women, Sarah. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no I mean, there's so many. I mean, I think there's a harder to find.
Starting point is 01:19:05 I think that Tamlin, what's her name again? I always forget her name. I'm literally blanking on it now. She was Sam Morales girlfriend. Yeah. She's very good. Eliza's really good. Yeah, very talented.
Starting point is 01:19:17 I called her up after a script. I was gonna say she did, but she's also a Jewish girl. I thought you'd ask her. I called her up after a script. I did. She was unavailable. I did ask her. She's filming something. I called her up after, I did. She was unavailable. I did ask her.
Starting point is 01:19:25 She's filming something. I asked my good friend Tiffany Haddish. She was filming. And again, when you're filming, it's like, you gotta be up at four or five. You're not gonna be working until 11 at night. It's gonna mess up your whole shoot day. Yeah, I get it, okay.
Starting point is 01:19:36 So, and Tiffany also is someone that says, yes, it's almost anything I ask of her. And she's so sweet and she's amazing. Eliza, it said, filming can't focus that it I went fine. But I called her up after her special and I said, that's special made me angry that I'm not that good. That's how good she is. So yeah, women and women are hilarious.
Starting point is 01:19:54 She's good, but you stop saying that. You're just as good, if not, I think maybe even. That's so sweet. She's really good. You like Whitney Cummings? Yeah, she's also someone that's like, she's funny, yeah, I'm not gonna say anything. I can't, you can't get me a tux, shit. Okay, no, I'm trying to think of that.
Starting point is 01:20:10 I like Whitney. I like comedy, comedian to comedian. I'm trying to think of Whitney. By the way, there are comedians, male and female that I have disdain for both as people and as comedians. There are super successful comedians that I think aren't funny at all. Who? And I would never say that because I got to run into them with this comedy store
Starting point is 01:20:29 and the laugh factory and the comedy seller. And I'm not going to be the guy that, that, I don't want, I don't like confrontation. Did you think, I know it's true. Do you like, do you think Michael Rappaport took good stand up? Anyway, we're going to be back after these. No. The truth is Michael is new. It's he's a fantastic actor who learned how to do stand up well. Is he a better comedian than an actor? No way. He'll tell you that he's been acting for 30 years doing stand up for I don't know five years. We've been doing stand up. Yeah, he didn't just get up there and wing it. Oh, I thought he just it was a big act was hitting the stage for I don't know how long. He's a big actor who's been hitting the stage for, I don't know how long. Four years at least, eight years maybe, nine years, and he's getting really good,
Starting point is 01:21:08 but it takes a good 10, 15 years to get good. Unlike me, he was born good. Right, that's a whole lot of things. We've established that. So what's coming up for you? Nothing, this is coming out soon. I think this is coming out very soon, coming soon to a podcast near you.
Starting point is 01:21:26 Habits and hustle like that. Would you come back again by the way? Of course I would. We didn't even scratch the surface of my life, of my comedy, I didn't even do any fun, I did Howard for a second, who else I do? A little Trump, I didn't do my repertoire. I'm exhausted by the way, because I had a big lunch
Starting point is 01:21:43 and this didn't help me. This gave me a mental boost, though. I like this. You wanna have it? I think this kept me a little sharp. This is better than the lion's mane mushroom from Whole Foods that I get. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:54 Do you wanna have it with you? See how old I am? I'm 52. I know I look amazing, but I literally... You do. I'm at the age where I have to do this. Do you wear glasses? No, I can't get that too.
Starting point is 01:22:04 I can't get that too. I know it's like, you cannot admit. You cannot admit that you have. Let me tell you something else to the people at home. Listen to older people. Listen to older people. Everything older people tell you is true and follow that advice and live by it. When people said to me, and I have four little kids at home,
Starting point is 01:22:23 save her every second. It goes by like that. I go, no, it doesn't. It's torture. It's painstaking. It's endless. It doesn't. And then like that, they're out of the house.
Starting point is 01:22:35 And they're taller than you and they're going, dirty. And it's a nightmare that, and again, now I get to hang out and I'm smoking cigars of my oldest boy. And whatever. Crazy. So whole different thing playing golf, whatever. But listen to them.
Starting point is 01:22:45 It does go by. And when you're in the thick of it, you can't even imagine that this is gonna go by in a second when every second feels like a lifetime in an eternity. But listen to older people, because then now looking back, I went, oh my God, it's over.
Starting point is 01:23:01 I have no little kids. That's it, that's life. That's the whole being a dad thing. And of course you're always a dad, but not I have no little kids. That's it. That's life. That's the whole being a dad thing. And of course, you're always a dad, but not a dad to little kids. Listen to people and they go, you know when you're in your 50s, you're not going to be able to read anything. I'm like, what are you talking about, my eyes? You're just going to stop working?
Starting point is 01:23:18 What are you nuts? I will always be able to read. And then you're like, wait a minute, but I'm not getting glad. What is it? Listen to people when they tell you and you especially, Jen, one day your penis will have some issues. Now that day has not yet come for me. Thank God. Barakha Shem, as we say.
Starting point is 01:23:40 That day hasn't come for me. But now that I know that the sage advice from my predecessors and my elders that that day is near. And one day I'm just gonna go, hey, what's happening? Hey, how come this isn't working? And it's like, you can't imagine your 20s and 30s that that's just not gonna work.
Starting point is 01:23:59 Listen to people, your eyes, your penis, your kids. It doesn't count. It's all gone. It's all gone. Eyes, penis, kids, gone. Uh-oh. No, no, I'm kidding, not yet, thank God. No, and again, they're all there, and they're all home right now for the summer, which is the best when they're home from college.
Starting point is 01:24:17 My daughter did a year in Israel. The best is having all her kids home, but again, they're not little kids. I know, my little ones going to sleep away count for the first time. Yeah, but that you get over. That's like a month or two. It's a week. Oh, God, what are you fetching about? You are a Kvetcher.
Starting point is 01:24:32 I will know. I love all these 10. But anyway, the important thing is my penis still works. Okay. And I didn't know. I wanted to ask you more questions about the beginning. You know what it's like in your 50s with the penis? Well, go ahead. I'll tell you what it's like in your 50s with the penis? Well, go ahead.
Starting point is 01:24:45 I'll tell you what it's like. I just thought of this recently. It's like, yeah, because your 20s and 30s, you wake up with it going, you know, what are we doing today? You know, yeah, it's so different. In your 50s, it's not like dead, but it's in sleep mode,
Starting point is 01:25:01 like a laptop that's in sleep mode. So it's still on, but you have to tap it for it to really wake up and turn it in. That's like rate analogy. Yeah, but it's not like, and then like, probably in your six or seven days, it shuts down where it's a reboot or something. You have to restart it.
Starting point is 01:25:16 Restart it or something. In your 20s and there's it's always on. It doesn't sleep. So it sleeps now, but it wake, it just tap it. And it starts up again. Yeah, it's not a problem. Is it a bit that you do? I'm thinking of it.
Starting point is 01:25:30 It's some, it's almost a bit. Oh my gosh. It's a good analogy, because it really is like that. Is that what you're working on right now? I don't say I'm working on it, but it's a thought I've had that I wrote down somewhere and I'll figure it out at some point. I don't usually like to talk about my penis in my act.
Starting point is 01:25:43 No, but that's a really good bit though. Can you think of another bit or talk about another bit that you're working through? Yeah, do another bit that you're working through. Oh my God, there's so many bits that I'm working through. I'm always working. How do you get your ideas just by life? Life and observing, the best way to get ideas though,
Starting point is 01:26:00 is like before a set, at least for like an hour or two, I'll go over stuff, especially when you're doing an hour. I'm doing like 10, 15 minutes or a new bit or something you have to get in your head. Whenever you go over it out loud, like people go, do you look in the mirror and never look in the mirror, especially when you're doing impressions, when you're doing impressions, you really feel like the person you're doing, you feel their aura and it's like it's weird to do impressions.
Starting point is 01:26:23 You're channeling them. So the second you look in a mirror, you used to see you, but if you're doing this and you're feeling it, you know, and I feel like him, and it's not a good guy to feel like you don't want to feel like this, believe me, but for a minute, it's okay. And if I look to the mirror, I'd just say, oh, that's a lot. It's not done. It's not done. Yeah. And the same with like going over material, I go material not in the mirror But I pace in my office. I have a back office detached from the house So I'm so it doesn't they don't hear me talking to myself like a lunatic and when you're saying things out loud and going over them New thoughts always pop in once you're in funny mode and you're saying funny things
Starting point is 01:26:58 Then oh and I could add this or a separate completely new observation and sometimes it's just like You're talking to an Israeli guy and they're literally saying every word that's plural add this or a separate completely new observation. And sometimes it's just like, you're talking to an Israeli guy and they're literally saying every word that's plural, they're saying in the, what's the opposite of plural again? I don't think this stuff works. Yeah, when they say something plural, no, because my mind went somewhere.
Starting point is 01:27:21 When they say something plural, a plural word, they say singular. And a singular word, they'll say plural. Like they'll say to you, a plural word they say singular, and a singular word they'll say plural. Like they'll say to you, you know, I heard a lot of story about this, but it reminds me in particular of this one story. Like one story. Today in Los Angeles, it was 83 degree,
Starting point is 01:27:37 but on the same day in Chicago, it was only one degree. And I'm listening to this guy, like, switch every plural and singular thing going, that's funny. I'm going to talk about that. I always really do this plural singular weird thing. So sometimes it happens to you and you just go, oh, and then you have to write down, write everything down because you forget anything. And sometimes it's just wall riffing or wall, you know, whatever. But material is good materials, not easy to come by. And when you have a gem, that's why I love having like classic bits. And some of my viral bits,
Starting point is 01:28:07 like the accent bit about the English and their tea, you ever see that bit? Which one, out of my way? Sometimes they over-pennunciate the letter, like that, and sometimes they ignore the letter completely. So what happened? Where did the letters go? And there are two teas in the word letter.
Starting point is 01:28:22 And yet they're nowhere to be found. So that observation, they're like, oh, the English say, have this weird thing with letter T. Sometimes they overpronounce the letter, and sometimes they ignore it. That's a good option. And just heard it one day, and that's a good observation. Talk about that.
Starting point is 01:28:34 Yeah, I heard that a bit. Yeah, sometimes it's like, something that goes on between you and your wife. She tells you to take out the garbage, and then you go and take out, which I do every day, by the way, you're welcome. And I take out the garbage, and then I open the front door, and I hear, she says to the kids, oh great,
Starting point is 01:28:48 he let a moth in. And I'm like, how am I, I'm just taking out the garbage, and I get blamed for the moth, and I'm going to this crazy place of like, imagine one day God forbid, someone comes in and just kills our entire family. God forbid, I promise you my death dying moments, I will hear, oh great, he let a murderer in. It'll be my fault that I opened the front.
Starting point is 01:29:15 But anyway, so things happen and you go, that's so funny. I just got blamed for letting this moth in. I got to write that time. You try to make it something. But then sometimes it's just analogies, like my parking bit. You know, I say I don't like to say that I'm married because that's not socially acceptable,
Starting point is 01:29:32 completely correct, and I apologize, I'm not married, I am sexually impaired, and I go being impaired, it is like having a disability except instead of being able to park anywhere, you only get one spot to park in, and on most nights there's no parking allowed. And then it goes on, the difference between single guys. Mary guy is single guys just looking for a spot.
Starting point is 01:29:50 They just go around, looking for a spot. Oh, I did hear that, yeah, yeah. Yeah, over in my park. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I heard this. And then Mary guys, we have a spot, but you gotta, you know, it's a legal spot, you gotta read the signs on her face, you never, you know, like, was it no Monday to Thursdays, taping?
Starting point is 01:30:04 Anyway, those Google a bit. Those are good bits. I also like a bit that I get. But those bits take months and months to craft and write. It does. Sometimes it takes 20 minutes, sometimes it takes months or years. The Jewish bit with the... One, I have like a thousand.
Starting point is 01:30:17 I know, I know, the sex, I know, the sex, the food. Sex, 20 and food, yeah. That I did on my first James Corden and it killed and then... That's a bit... Did it kill? And that's a bit that I love doing because it Dispels a negative stereotype about our people so if I could teach while making them laugh Choose love money. No you idiots. We love food food is number one You ask any Jew if they'd rather have a hot briskets sandwich or the cash value of a hot briskets sandwich
Starting point is 01:30:40 They would take the cash by a hot briskets sandwich at a cheaper place and keep the profits That's how we do it. But food is our number one. And it's like a teachable moment, too, where it's like, oh, we thought they loved money. No dummies. We only need money to buy food. That bit to me. Yeah, because it's true.
Starting point is 01:30:55 That's why. But 100% like, and when they go to the counter and they're looking for, um, yeah. Well, you know that you know. I say, no, I say, and I go, I go, sex, money, and food is for the rest of the world in that order, order sex, money, and food. And then I go for us number one, and I literally take the mic and I go like this to the audience.
Starting point is 01:31:13 And on the James Gordon show with like 250 people in the audience, pretty much all non-Jews at the same time yelled, what's number one? They yelled, money! And I go, no, you're wrong, it's food. And then I go into the bit and I go, food is our number one, then money, because we need money by food. And then sex is last.
Starting point is 01:31:30 I go, you know, if you see a Jewish guy be like, damn, I gotta get me some of that. He's standing over a deli count, and, you know, we're obsessed with cold cuts. But anyway, let's not, I'm not going to sit here and do my act. I know why. Did Chevy do his act? Did Chevy chase to his act? Actually, we did a few bits. I'm not talking about Chevy Chase. act the Chevy chase to his actually we didn't he did a few bits I'm talking about Chevy chase sure
Starting point is 01:31:46 Top 10 heroes growing up me too. That's why he came on the show. Yeah Chevy chase for me like Fletch and three amigos and anytime he hosted the Carson show anytime obviously SNL vacation and vacation I Worship Chevy chase so much because his screen presence obviously SNL vacation and vacation I worship Chevy chair so much because his screen presence he's just funny without saying anything he's funny with a look he's funny he's so funny did you talk to Chevy about how he stays funny
Starting point is 01:32:16 if he is still funny or is he not still funny I can't tell you I know that Chevy's one of those guys that you reference Eddie you were referencing Eddie Murphy that did Eddie Murphy lose it. I don't think so. Do you think Chevy chased lost it? I can't tell. Well, I think he was a guest. He was in your home camp exactly last week. Yeah, I know. I saw it. I mean, I didn't watch the whole thing because I don't watch podcasts. No, no, no, that's why I didn't watch it. Well, yeah, I distinctly remember not watching it, you know? You know what that is?
Starting point is 01:32:46 Woody Allen, I like Woody Allen. You're not gonna, you're not gonna, like, I'm gonna get every single one of these people. We can play this back and forth game, I like all of them, and I know you have Shabbat. Okay, you know, I will wrap it up because I know I can talk to you literally all day. We can talk for hours, we should date.
Starting point is 01:33:02 I mean. We should just go on a few dates. I mean, tell our spouses and go listen, we have a lot to cover. We didn't cover it in the podcast. We're just gonna go off from the dinner. Do you want it? No, I don't cheat.
Starting point is 01:33:12 29 years ago. No, could we be friends? No, could we be friends? Of course, we are already friends. Okay. Isn't it crazy to be faithful to 29 years? Don't you think after a certain amount of time you get like a get out of jail for a new time?
Starting point is 01:33:23 Yeah, that's a long time. It's a little too long. That's a long time. What are you doing tomorrow night? Yeah. Your face is so funny. I think you like him, right? I always turn to it because it's like you have to get the reaction from the audience.
Starting point is 01:33:37 I know. What do you think? Well, because you're not Jewish. Well, he's a little too Jewish for me. Yeah. That's what we'll say. What do you think? You know what he hears when I'm talking?
Starting point is 01:33:45 He hears Jackie Baeser that makes me dush. I love that a place such as myself has to sit here. I'm luring a besk, but I don't have to spell my own breath. This is a dushy disgusting. Gek, gek, gek. You did a great Jackie Mason. By the way, he is very funny. Top 10 that ever lived.
Starting point is 01:33:59 I think he's one of my favorites, actually. He is so, was so brilliant. You know what I was Gilbert also. Gilbert just passed last year. I know he dispelling. Gilbert was like, it's like, I'm not gonna just do impressions. I didn't love him.
Starting point is 01:34:10 It wasn't one of my favorites. Oh, if you ever saw him live, do you know how I was? Yeah, I never did. Oh, you know what I was good, oh, Jim Gaffigan's good, though. Polarious. He's sweet guy, too. I like him.
Starting point is 01:34:20 And Brian Regan's good, too. Oh my God, Brian Regan's, I'll see you have great taste. Thank you, I do, actually. You also good. So you have great taste. Thank you. I do, actually. You know what doesn't have great taste? This super espresso triple show. Is this a, this is a, what, who makes this?
Starting point is 01:34:32 Is this one of your products that you get? No, it's not. It's not what I'm like. Isn't it fun being an influencer and people just send you free shit every hour? Not every hour. I mean, but a lot of the things I don't, like if I don't like it, I'm not going to like allow it
Starting point is 01:34:43 to be promoted. You don't even allow it in your house. No, no, I give it away. But of the things I don't like, if I don't like it, I'm not gonna allow it to be promoted. You don't even allow it in your house. No, no, I give it away. But some certain things I love. Like I love trunniogen, trunniogen, by the way. What is it? It's a NAD precursor. I'm gonna give you some.
Starting point is 01:34:54 You better, because you're not paying me for this. I'm gonna give you a bunch of it, because you're 52, it's amazing for you. How dare you say my age. It's amazing. You just said it really. I know joking, yeah. For your energy, for your energy.
Starting point is 01:35:04 Yes, I need energy. It renews your Self. It's amazing. Okay. I'm gonna give you some of that. That's a lot of stuff. I got a lot of stuff to give you. Oh, have you heard of Therasage? The portable sauna. I'm gonna send you have you have you tried you ever have it's red light. I would love that. Have you not had any time? No, and I don't do the cold bath thing. It was cold. You do the cool. Oh, you really do it all. I do a lot. How do you learn about all these things? It's what I love. So it's like, how did you study it?
Starting point is 01:35:30 You study it. Yeah, and I also. You research stuff. Yes. I mean, I'm a big, and I also am a big fan of anything for optimization. So. Well, whatever you're doing, to me, from my perspective, you seem to be in, let's just say because nobody's perfect, near perfect mental and physical health.
Starting point is 01:35:53 So whatever it is you are doing, keep doing it, and then teach everyone else how to do it. Are you joking? That was the... I was dead. I've got serious here a few times. Okay, well, I probably probably making fun of me. William, can you back me up here? Why would I know?
Starting point is 01:36:09 That was a genuine moment. Where you have all this nourish kite that seems to be working, all this, this facaccacta, things of products, all this shit. And it turns out you seem to be in great mental and physical health. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:36:27 So keep sharing it with the world. You know what I don't do? I don't drink alcohol. Crack. You don't? Nothing. I'm wondering if there's something interesting about me. What?
Starting point is 01:36:37 Didn't drink in college, didn't drink in my 20s, and then finally in my mid 30s, someone said, you gotta taste this, it's Scotch. And I go, I don't like alcohol to me It's like rubbing alcohol everything vodka. It's all because try it's McCall in 18 I was like oh this is like chocolate milk This is good and then I got into that a little bit then I get into wines and great wines. You don't have good wine every now I don't like wine. I don't like the taste of alcohol see I agree
Starting point is 01:37:00 But then I started having good alcohol like I won't just drink vodka, I don't just drink, I don't like drinking. I don't get it. I don't get it. I'm getting drunk, is the worst thing. People gross after it. It's just not great, but now a good glass of wine, a good shot of whiskey, and there's good things. There's good tequila's out there,
Starting point is 01:37:19 but in moderation, I really do it, but I don't live by it. You know, my vices are cigars, I love cigars. I love cigars. See, really? See, but I don't live by it. My vices are cigars, I love cigars, I love cigars. See, really? See, I, yeah. Oh yeah, Jerry. What? Yes.
Starting point is 01:37:34 I've never, you're so funny right now. OK, these are a couple things. You don't like cigars, your husband doesn't smoke cigars? No, but I'll tell you what I love. Then we're not hanging out. OK, well, sorry. I mean, your husband will hang out. OK, good, that's what matters. Any man that doesn't smoke cigars, I'm not chilling with. Yeah, well, sorry. I mean, your husband will hang out. Okay, good. That's a matter.
Starting point is 01:37:45 And he made it, doesn't smoke cigars. I'm not chilling with. Yeah, no, he... Not vibing with. If you don't like cigars, it's something wrong with you. Cigars are the greatest gift, besides the Sabbath.
Starting point is 01:37:57 Cigars also, it's also... Is that for? You said it's God, family, comedy. And cigars, cigars. It could be. Cigars also like Shabbos. It just relaxes you. Everyone goes, comedy, and cigars. It could be. Cigars also like shabas. It just relaxes you. Everyone goes, this is dangerous for you.
Starting point is 01:38:08 And who knows? But Milton Burl and Sid Cesar and all these guys that I admired smoked 10 cigars a day till they were 98. But cigar, I go, you know what kills you? Stress, you know this. Stress kills you. Cigars is a de-stress. You know what's crazy about me and my wife?
Starting point is 01:38:22 What? You're supposed to go, you're married? Anytime I'm talking to anyone, it could be a man or a woman, and they'll go, you know my husband crazy about me and my wife? What? You're supposed to go, you're married? Anytime I'm talking to anyone, it could be a man or a woman, and they'll go, you know, my husband, you're married, like as if some, you know, because I like to do that, it's fun. But anyway, me and my wife,
Starting point is 01:38:35 I got one of those lucky women who, you know, many women, the test the smell of cigars. So now I'm having cigars, and they're like, get away from me. She always love the smell. So she'd be like, eh, get away from me. She always love this smell. So she'd be like, mm, I love this smell. Then listen to the progression of this. Okay.
Starting point is 01:38:50 Then she starts going, I want a puff. So I give her a puff. That's how much she likes cigars. Cut to about a year ago. I want my own cigar, absolutely. Now, a few times a week, we smoke cigars together. Do you know how, and I end with friends and whatever it just does?
Starting point is 01:39:06 You know what's fun it is to go out and vacation or just on our back here? Just have cigars with your wife. It's relaxing, it's fun with friends. cigars are everything. Why'd you smoke a joint? Are my kids watching this? We may have just gotten into that as well.
Starting point is 01:39:21 By the way, 50 years and no weed, either. 50. And all of a sudden, you waited weed either. 50. No weed. And all of a sudden, let's say I didn't inhale. I'm not a drug guy. I'm just not a drug guy. No, I'm not a drug guy. So, I'm anti the main big drugs, but I'm not anti weed anymore. I used to be a little bit judgmental because I didn't know about it and also I was worried
Starting point is 01:39:42 about the gateway drug thing. Is it going to lead to more drugs? I was worried about, am I going to become dependent reliant on it for my comedy, which is like my work? I'm also trying to raise kids, or I just want to be stoned all day. I'm not raising kids anymore. I'm not raising anything. Right, you know.
Starting point is 01:39:56 I'm trying to raise a penis is all I'm trying to do. Keep raising the penis until I hit, what is it, like, 68 it goes down? What happens? How do I know? I'm not a guy. Nor am I dating it. I'm so not looking forward to being older.
Starting point is 01:40:08 I'm feeling up. I'm telling you what to do. I'm not looking forward to being older. I'm giving you some biohacking and to aging. Are you doing the song? You call me a hack? Well, no, I'm not doing the song. Okay, this, by the way, this is the best one.
Starting point is 01:40:19 If you're going to have a portable, oh, do you have any aches or pains yet since you're old for 40 years? No, I'm not that Jewish. Do you work out? Yeah, I try to hit the gym once or twice a week. I do running, and I try to eat right. That's why, you know, I look so damn good.
Starting point is 01:40:30 Where do you eat? Where do I eat? What? Usually in the kitchen of the dining room, sometimes I'll eat at a restaurant. There's a lot of places you can eat. You can eat anywhere but the bathroom. We really eat.
Starting point is 01:40:42 I don't eat on the toilet, but most places I eat, I eat it. Even at a diner I will eat sometimes. I will eat at... Would you favorite restaurant? Moistures, pets? How dare you? You anti-Semitic. You know it's a restaurant called Pat.
Starting point is 01:40:59 I know, I love pets. But why would they have to say Moistures? Like that's where he... I bet you eat it like a place called moishas I don't even know what moishas is it doesn't exist and you just made it do you eat it? Chiam smuckles is that where you go for your Jew food? Is that where you enjoy your gafilt a fish? Yeah, I know I like all rest I like no boo just Malibu just like you do just can't afford it like you can Have you seen this house, ladies and gentlemen?
Starting point is 01:41:26 I'm looking at a pool. You know what I look at at my back yard? A pool table. That's great. A ping pong table is what I have. Do you play pickleball yet? Love it. Pickleball is Jewish tennis.
Starting point is 01:41:36 You don't have to schlep too much. You stand in one place. You're hitting it. It's so amazing. I play with the kids all the time. I love pickleball. Oh my god. Okay, you're hilarious.
Starting point is 01:41:47 And it has pickles in it. It had, well, in the name. It's in the name. I don't want you to be late for Shabbat. Thank you. It's Shabbat to you. Guys, no matter what you believe in, take one day a week, turn your phones off.
Starting point is 01:41:58 Not one hour. 24, we do 25 hours because it starts an hour before something that ends at dark. So what do you do do the whole 25 hours? Are you kidding me? Pickable. Ping pong and basketball and reading and napping and laughing and talking and eating a lot of eating, eating, eating and snacking and fun and hanging and going for tonight. We're going to friends for Shabbat dinner. So we're gonna be with 20 people hanging out.
Starting point is 01:42:23 No one famous is so now you don't care. No, I do care. You shall I want to know. You know, I thought you were deep and I thought you were real, but all you want to know is what stars house house. No, I want to know where you're going. What star are you familiar? Are you familiar with?
Starting point is 01:42:38 I thought me was David Svisa or? I love David Svisa. Well, I'm gonna show you something. Are you familiar with Tom Cruise? We're going to him for Shavas dinner. Really? No, he's not Jewish. Anyway, no, it's just a friend in the neighborhood. Can we?
Starting point is 01:42:51 I have a dinner. I'm not kidding. Open invite. Unless you're going to say is this sincere too? Like my compliment was so sincere. No, I'm going to come over for free. For doubts, a sincere compliment. From a comedian?
Starting point is 01:43:02 I know who does. The same person. Oh, here we go. The blow off. The same person who meets you once for four and a half minutes and then shows up two weeks later, your podcast goes, you blew me off. That's the person that goes, this compliment is disingenuous.
Starting point is 01:43:17 You got to work on that. I said you're near perfect, but we have what to work on and you know that. You know what's, you know your homework. I love you. I love you too, not in that way. I, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:28 Along, are you doing anything that people can look at? Just follow me on Instagram and go watch. You know I did a special, it's on, it's on, no, Amazon Prime has chosen and taken, which is what I did years ago, but still holds up and still fun. I did a new special, I shot at the Comedy Cellar one summer, just by myself. It's a half hour. It's like a mini special. Yeah, I went out and it's called Sets in the City. And it's and it's
Starting point is 01:43:52 long gold's favorite people. And it's kind of a journey of who my favorite people are. And it opens with me talking about Jews are my fourth favorite people. And it's all just a joke. And it's all just hilarious. It's a it's a way to make fun of my people, other people, and with love and no hatred and racism and all that. And you wanna hear something super funny? I can't wait. You were on Adam Corolla's show,
Starting point is 01:44:14 like the day after me. Oh wow. Yeah, not funny. By the way, never preface something with wanting here something super funny and then just state of fact. That's not really humorous in any way. It's just interesting. Oh, coincidental. Coincidental. That's, you wanna hear something super funny and then just state a fact. That's not really humorous in any way. It's just interesting.
Starting point is 01:44:25 It's coincidental. Coincidental. That's it. You wanna hear something coincidental? We did the same show and it was like day after. Super funny. I'm primed. I'm like, oh my God, I can't wait to fall off this chair.
Starting point is 01:44:38 This is exciting. Hey, you wanna hear something hilarious? I was at Whole Foods yesterday and I ran to a friend of yours. Wow. You wanna hear something hilarious. I was at Whole Foods yesterday and I ran to a friend of yours. Wow. You want to hear something hilarious? This keto. What is this? What am I having?
Starting point is 01:44:52 You love those things. I gotta send it to them. Can I have, can I steal this? I'm gonna give you some. I'm gonna get them to send you a bunch. I swear. Yeah. Because you.
Starting point is 01:44:59 I think my mind worked sharper. I mean, not usually this funny. Also, I got four hours of sleep last night. You thought you were funny? I thought I was for. Also, I got four hours of sleep last night. You thought you were funny? I thought I was for a minute. I got four hours of sleep last night. I need eight to really be sharp. So this was helpful.
Starting point is 01:45:12 I'm happy. I'm gonna give you some. Yeah, I got four and I didn't even get any last night. It was very upset. Why are we four? You know, sometimes you just fall asleep. A lot of nights you fall asleep. But we were out late, but then we came home and you know,
Starting point is 01:45:25 what? What? Anyway, it's not important. Am I getting too personal now? No, I'm not. We'll cut before that part, or my wife will never get me actually. Why?
Starting point is 01:45:32 She'll, please, this is, you're so polite and lovely with your wife, so I feel like I know her. Yeah, we're high school sweethearts, which is like, and the joke about if I'm not wearing my ring, how am I going to find my soulmate, is even more meaningful because I actually did find my soulmate. We're one of the lucky few that found each other. I know, it's amazing.
Starting point is 01:45:54 And we're soulmates. So it's like, it's a life for a matter of, with the fighting every now and then and the disagree, whatever it is, like, you have to know, okay, so you're in this for life, so you gotta just get past this, whatever this is. But if you know you have your soulmate, you know to know, okay, so you're in this for life, so you gotta just get past this whatever this is But if you know you have your soulmate, you know to work on it And if it's not your soulmate get rid of it and start again and find your soulmate That's why I love that ring joke because I found my soulmate But the fact that I'm not wearing a ring because I'm looking for my soulmate. It's funny
Starting point is 01:46:19 I also think that I don't necessarily agree that there's just one soulmate for every. Oh, I don't, I didn't say that. I think there are lots of people who you can... There could be. And I'm right now thinking about opening up my marriage. So, are you my other soulmate? I told you, 29 years of a closed marriage is a lot. It's a long, long... It's a long hole.
Starting point is 01:46:40 It's a long hole. I feel like I've got to go to a good marriage. I feel like I've got to go. I feel like I've got to go to a good marriage. I feel like I've got to go to a good marriage. I feel like I've got to go to a good marriage. I feel like I've got to go to a good marriage. I feel like I've got to go to a long haul. If you want to know the secrets to a good marriage, Sure. Three ways. Anyway, I gotta go. Uh, yeah. You are so funny. Okay, listen, actually,
Starting point is 01:46:50 Well, I was gonna go. Let's wrap it up like Howard Stern. Oh, well, this is very, we've said it all. We've said it all. Jen, we've done it all. There's not much more to cover, Robin. But this Jen, let me tell you, she's got it going on. All right.
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