Habits and Hustle - Episode 281: Gary Brecka: Human Biologist on Predicting How Long You’ll Live
Episode Date: October 3, 2023In this episode of Habits and Hustle, I chat with Gary Brecka, a human biologist and former mortality expert, who provides an in-depth discussion about an array of topics ranging from how to predict y...our lifespan, insights into longevity, and the impact of daily habits on our health. We also dive into genetic testing, the role of vitamins and minerals in our bodies, and the importance of gut health. This conversation was not only educational but also empowering and it serves as a reminder that understanding our bodies can lead to actionable steps toward better health. As Gary rightly puts it, "Most people have forgotten how good normal really feels. Gary Brecka is a professional Human Biologist, and the Co-Founder of 10X Health System based in Miami, FL. His goal is to empower people to become the best version of themselves. What we discuss: (0:00:55) - The Surprising Truth of Life Insurance (0:09:46) - The Third Leading Cause of Death in America (0:11:56) _ Why It’s Important to Stress Your Body (0:17:52) - The Superhuman Protocol (0:26:25) - Red Light Therapy and Benefits of Saunas (0:37:17) - Photographic Memory and Biohacking (0:41:25) - Deficiency and Methylation in Human Body (0:50:57) - Explaining mRNA Vaccines and Methylation Tests (0:58:12) - Importance of Gut Health and Genes (1:05:03) - From Insurance to Probabilistic Mortality Models (1:08:04) - From Insurance to Wellness (1:13:50) - Blood Sugar and Nutrient Deficiencies Impact (1:19:15) - Understanding Genetic Testing and Supplements (1:26:43) - Peptides and Testosterone (1:32:13) - Understanding Testosterone and Hormone Levels (1:44:44) - Intermittent Fasting and Allergy Testing (1:51:43) - Introduction to Grant Cardone's Health Transformation (2:01:20) - Daily Habits and Longevity Thank you to our sponsors: TruNiagen: Head over to truniagen.com and use code HUSTLE20 to get $20 off any purchase over $100. Ketone IQ (HVMN): You can save 30% off your first subscription order of Ketone-IQ at HVMN.com/JEN Find more from Jen: Website: https://www.jennifercohen.com/ Instagram: @therealjencohen Books: https://www.jennifercohen.com/books Speaking: https://www.jennifercohen.com/speaking-engagement Learn more from Gary Breka: Website: https://www.garybrecka.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/garybrecka/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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I got this Tony Robbins you're listening to Habitson Hustle, Crush It.
Okay, we got Gary Breckett.
Gary, who are you?
Like tell us who you are.
I know who you are.
I know who you are, but how would you describe who you are? Because, you know, I don't think your,
you know, your little two sentence bio really kind of explains the wealth and gamut of
information that you provide.
Oh, thank you.
It's, no, it's, it's true. And with one funny thing, not funny, actually, see, opposite
of funny, what I thought was super interesting that I think I'd love to start with is this idea of you being a mortality expert
and that you can literally pinpoint someone's lifespan by a month.
Can you talk about that?
So first of all, my human biologist, I'm not a physician.
So my undergraduate degrees were in biology.
My postgraduate degrees were in human biology.
So I got a separate degree in human biology.
And then for 20 odd years, 20 plus years, I was in the mortality space for big life insurance companies.
And I get a lot of flack about that, Pete, but people say, well, if you could predict mortality
to the month, you'd be Jesus or you would have won a Nobel Prize.
But the truth is, it's some of the most accurate science in the world.
It's not my science, but it's some of the most accurate science in the world. It's not my science, but it's some of the most accurate science in the world. I mean,
if you want to know how accurate life insurance companies are at predicting death, just look
at what happened in 2008, 2009, financial services crisis. We had what 364 banks failed,
not one life insurance company failed. I mean, a valid death claim in America has never
failed to have been paid. I mean, life insurance companies claim in America has never failed to have been paid.
I mean, life insurance companies are some of the most solvent institutions on the planet,
and they take risk that no other financial services enterprise would even come close to taking,
because they put all of that risk on one variable.
I mean, when they put a $10 million or $25 million, and I worked on the jumbo life side,
which is large life insurance policies, we rarely saw policies below $5 million and I worked on the jumbo life side, which is large life insurance policies. We rarely saw policies below $5 million.
But when they put 10 or 20 or 25 or $50 million
worth of risk on your life,
only one thing matters.
I mean, how many more months do you have left on Earth?
And everybody's on an actual real curve.
You're on one, I'm on one.
Everybody listening to this podcast,
if you're a 35 year old male, you have a life expectancy, general life expectancy of X. But a life insurance company doesn't care
where you are on an actuarial curve. They want to know your specific mortality. And so in order to
come up with that, they look at five to ten years of medical records, they look at your demographic
data, and then they look at a recent blood test.
And essentially what they're doing is they're working backwards because you have to understand
that all human beings leave this earth the same way.
We all die of the same thing.
The definition of death is hypoxia, a lack of oxygen to the brain.
So when you can no longer sustain brain function, that's essentially what we call death.
So if we know that everybody dies of lack of oxygen to the brain, dies of hypoxia, now it might
be a gunshot wound, a car, a boss, a heart attack, stroke, there's lots of ways
that could happen. Then we start from that endpoint and we work backwards. You see
life insurance companies have information that no other university, CDC, the
FDA, no clinical study of any kind has because they know the day, the CDC, the FDA, no clinical study of any kind has, because they know the day,
the date, the time, the location, and the cause of death for hundreds of millions of lives.
So they know what happens when you take a painkiller and unaware that has an addictive
amyloid.
And now you're starting down the track of addiction.
They know that if you take corticosteroids for inflammation,
that initially that's gonna lower your inflammation,
but eventually those are gonna eat your joints
like a termite and they're gonna result
in a joint replacement.
They'll even schedule the joint replacement
behind the scenes for you six years and one day
after you start corticosteroids.
If you wanna watch the trajectory
of what's happening with vaccines,
just watch how life insurance companies start
to table rate people that are either vaccinated
or boosted or double-boosted or quadruple-boosted, because they have mortality data, right?
So they go off of hard mortality data.
You know, I always would say that if the database that I used to work in could just see the
light of day, it would permanently change the face of humanity.
And they cannot obviously release that, right?
Because it's...
No, they won't release that because they're the polar opposite of Google and Facebook,
right?
They collect the luminous amounts of information, but they use it to price financial services
products, but they don't use it for...
For good, really.
For public good.
And eventually, for me, after being in that industry for very long time, I began to realize
that there was human beings on the other side
of these spreadsheets.
It wasn't just data.
And the very interesting thing is that,
one of the ways that you go from being on an actual
real curve to having what we call specific mortality
is there's like a credit and debit system.
So you have diabetes, you get a debit,
it's a mortality factor, if you're obese, you get a debit, So you have diabetes, you get a debit, it's a mortality factor.
If you're obese, you get a debit.
If you have hypertension, you get a debit.
But if you're morbidly obese and diabetic,
it's not just one plus one, plus one,
it's one plus one, plus one equals 10.
And a lot of times we are able to see metabolic syndromes
and coronary artery disease building
in very, very young people that we knew was going to result in a
catastrophic event.
You're not allowed to like tell them or warn them or explain to them.
That was the real downside of that industry.
You know, we were prohibitive by law from having any contact with the patient or the treating physician.
So not even to like, not even to put it in a public setting,
but just call to tell the person, like,
wait, hold on, you're doing this,
which we have the data to show,
if you keep on doing it this way.
I mean, it's gonna be crazy.
And you can't do anything.
Even if we saw life threatening drug interactions,
we couldn't contact the patient.
So I would have been criminally prosecuted
potentially for that.
So when you're looking at this voluminous amount of data and you see for
example somebody has anemia, right? So they're anemic, which means essentially their blood is very
low on oxygen. So they're exhausted, they don't sleep well, they're tired, they have no stamina,
and you know they're being treated over and over and over again with the same sequence of events iron,
you know, B12, folic acid. But you realize that they have a gene mutation
where they can't absorb folic acid.
So if they just changed the type of nutrient
they were using to something called methylfolate, for example,
in many cases that anemia would just eviscerate.
But you couldn't even contact the patient to tell them that.
You know, we would see patients all the time
that were diagnosed with a long-term,
like clinical deficiency in vitamin D3.
You could see it in the medical record for, you know, over a decade.
And now they're exhibiting rheumatoid arthritis like symptoms.
Now, they don't have rheumatoid arthritis,
but in the hands of the wrong primary care physician,
you know, when they give their patient history,
it parallels rheumatoid arthritis so exactly
that they get told they have rheumatoid arthritis,
they get started on a corticosteroid, and we knew that if you started oral corticosteroids,
you had basically six years and one day until you were having a joint replacement.
And so now, you're diagnosed with a condition that you don't have, you're put on a medication
that you don't need, it causes you to have a joint replacement that wasn't required.
And this reduces something called your ambulatory profile,
which is how well you emulate and how well you move.
And as you reduce amulation, right,
as you reduce mobility, remember,
sitting is the new smoking, right?
Sedentary lifestyle is the leading cause
of all cause mortality.
We're really starting to thoroughly understand
the implications of muscle-latin
ages, in late age, fighting something called sarcopenia, age-related muscle wasting. But
as you get six years and one day from starting corticosteroids, which you didn't need, you're
now having a joint replacement. So now you reduce amuletion, mobility, and now you bring
forward diseases from your future, right? You borrow from the future future and you start to bring forward all of the diseases that exacerbate
with reduced mobility.
So you exacerbate cardiovascular disease, atherosclerosis, arterioscarosis, multi-system organ failure,
hypoxia, all of these things that you otherwise wouldn't have had if you had just known that
you had a simple nutrient deficiency.
Clinical deficiency in vitamin D3, the sunshine vitamin, the only vitamin that human beings make on their own. Okay, so I guess I'm still stuck on the fact
that why is it illegal, and this is maybe something you, it's like not really what you do, but why would
it be illegal to tell the person, what's the reasoning behind not being allowed to tell people?
I mean, the reason behind it wasn't so sinister. I mean, the basic reasoning behind it is they didn't
want someone like me who's not licensed to practice medicine
to be contacting the patient and interrupting the care
of medicine if they were under the care of a physician.
Right, okay.
But physicians and modern medicine isn't perfect.
I mean, none of us are perfect.
I mean, there's a medical information bureau
that's meant to catch things like contraindications
and prescriptions or people that are pain-med surfing,
things like that, but it's not a perfect system.
And so patients that move from state to state,
they transfer care between cardiologists,
let's say they live in the Midwest during the summer months
and they live in the South during the winter months.
Maybe they go from Michigan to Miami
and they transfer care back and forth very often.
In the patients' best interest,
physicians are trying to do their best job,
but they write a script that's contraindicated to each other.
Yeah.
You know, I see it a lot.
Again, I'm not licensed to practice medicine,
but more than a massive handful of times,
you know, we've been working with a patient,
our clinical team's been working with a patient,
and they have a kidney doctor,
and they have a primary care, and they have a cardiologist,
and they all have them on either similar
or very dissimler medications that conflict with
one another.
But you know what I find interesting?
There's like a lot of noise around the fact that there's like, I think there was a stat,
like there's medical error is probably one of the top.
That's the third leading cause of death in America.
It was a 2016 Harvard study.
There's a 2016 Harvard study in a 2019 Johns Hopkins study, which is actually worse than the Harvard study,
but that medical error, medical misdiagnosis,
is the third leading cause of death.
So modern medicine is resulting in the death
of more people than morbid obesity and diabetes combined.
Only cancer and cardiovascular disease
kill more people than medical error.
So then, but yet, when there's alternative people talking about different ways to cure
yourself or help or prevent, it's still considered to be alternative conspiracy theory, all of
these like negative connotations, which I've yet to understand why.
Well, I mean, the whole practice of medicine is driven by reimbursements, my first physician to pay.
Again, there's not a whole sinister pool of physicians that are out there to pray on
patients.
They work hard to go to school, to get educated about chemicals and synthetics and pharmaceuticals.
So that's the box that they understand.
We're very good at crisis management.
If I hit a windshield at 25 miles an hour, I mean, I want a surgeon,
I want a painkillers, I'm going to the ER. But we're not good at the preventative side, right? We know
now that cardiovascular disease begins much, much decades earlier in life than we ever thought. We
know that things like the amyloid plaquing in the brain and lead to Alzheimer's and neurogenic
disorders begin very, very early in life.
If we spent more time talking about mental fitness that rather than mental illness, we would
have much less mental illness.
Absolutely.
And we're beginning to realize the astounding benefits of just exercise.
I mean, people don't want to think that exercise can be the greatest antidote to death, but
it is.
I mean, it reduces't want to think that exercise can be the greatest antidote to death, but it is. It reduces your cardiovascular disease,
risk it, it reduces your risk of falls and breaks
and later ages, and improves your cognitive function,
your mood, your emotional state, your digestion, everything.
You're seeing my song right now.
And you know, sedentary lifestyle, like I say,
is leading cause of all cause mortality.
I have a saying that aging is the aggressive pursuit
of comfort.
Oh, yeah.
The more aggressively we pursue comfort, the faster we age.
We have to stop telling grandma not to go outside.
It's too hot, not to go outside.
It's too cold, just to lay down, just to rest, to relax, to eat at the very first pang
of hunger.
This is dismantling all of our defense mechanisms.
There's a process in the body called hormesis,
a well-documented, well-researched process,
where the body is stressed and responds
in a way of strengthening.
I mean, the whole idea of going to the gym
is to tear a muscle.
You don't have muscle hypertrophy
unless you've torn it, or muscle hypertasia.
If you don't load your bones, they don't strengthen.
If you don't tear your muscles, they don't grow.
If you don't challenge your bones, they don't strengthen. If you don't tear your muscles, they don't grow. If you don't challenge your immune system, it weakens.
Is that why the cold plunge, for example, is so popular?
Right? Because it's so jarring to your nervous system.
Yes.
Then it actually strengthens and enhances your immune system.
Is that why?
No question.
And the thing is, the know, the difference between,
you remember, when we use cold water immersion
or cold therapy, which I'm a huge fan of,
I take a cold plunge every single day.
You do.
Even wearing Colorado, we don't,
you know, I can't plug a cold plunge in
because we have solar.
Oh, sorry.
I have a lot of fun.
So what I do is I take the, you know, 43 degree glacier water,
I put it in a cattle trough.
I went to a tractor supply, got $165.10 cattle trough,
and I fill it with glacier water and get in and every day.
The idea is to show a shot.
How long? Three minutes.
Three minutes minimum, six minutes maximum.
Remember, we don't want to be cold adaptive.
We're not trying to adapt the body to cold.
We're trying to shock it.
So, like for example, if every single day
you walked into your house, your husband was hiding around the same corner and he went,
boom, every single day. Eventually you would adapt to that scaric. My daughter does that to me every day.
Okay, so if you're adapted to it. So, you know, cold, you know, when we get in cold water, a whole multitude of things happen,
but there's a massive peripheral vasospasm, right, which drives all that oxygenated blood into the core.
Lever lungs, pancreas, kidneys, up to the brain.
This kind of oxygen flow to the brain only happens during deep delta waves of sleep.
And we activate something called brown fat, which is our thermostat,
right, which actually can raise your metabolism.
It can result in increased fatty acid metabolism.
We also release something called cold-shock proteins from the liver. And these release something called cold shock proteins from the liver.
These are reserved proteins that are held in the liver for extreme situations.
When we immerse ourselves in cold water, which is, remember, water is 29 times more thermogenic
than air, meaning it removes heat from the body at 29 times the rate of air.
You can die in 72 degree water.
You can't die in 72 degree air.
You can get hyperthermia. When you get in cold water, the idea is to shock the body,
don't adapt to that process and get out.
That's why three minutes minimum, six minutes maximum,
I haven't seen any research that colder is better
or longer is better.
Really, that's why because people are like,
are always like, I did eight minutes
and they're all proud of themselves.
I mean, I don't know if you saw the big UFC article
going around, you know, the Dana White was absolutely irate.
It was actually my cold plunges,
but Conor McGregor and Michael Chandler were in 37 degree
water for more than 30 minutes because they were taping a show.
And how long were they in for?
That's a long time.
Over 30 minutes.
They were in for over 30 minutes.
Yeah, and the majority of people listening to this podcast
unless you're a, you're a world-class
athlete, could not survive that drop in core body temperature.
So it's dangerous.
I mean, I see people on Instagram all the time, they're going in 37 degree water with a snorkeling,
going under water and trying to stay under there for 10 or 12 minutes.
I go, that's crazy.
Your brain is this far inside the surface of your skull.
It's not good to freeze it.
It's not good to bake it.
So you get into cold water, it's not good to bake it. Right.
So you get into cold water, 48 degrees,
50 degrees is plenty, get in for three minutes minimum,
six minutes maximum, get out.
You'll get a release of cold chalk proteins,
you get a peripheral vasospasm,
you'll get a massive dump of endorphins,
it'll enhance your mood, your emotional state,
you'll activate brown fat,
you'll turn your thermostat back on.
I call it my drug of choice,
you're high from that for five or six hours.
Oh easy. Oh, easy.
It's amazing.
Now, do you find, is there a better time to do it,
is to maximize the benefits, like if you're doing it
on an empty stomach in the day, morning, is there?
First thing in the morning, as early as you can in the morning
before you exercise.
I mean, I fight with a lot of strength
and conditioning coaches about this.
Luckily, humor min, I think,, put out some great information on this.
I think he actually let us hampered study or report it on this hampered study.
But are you friends with him?
No, but I'm a huge fan of his.
Yeah.
Huge fan.
You should be on his podcast.
I should.
Yeah.
You're a man, if you're listening.
You're a man.
And by me, your podcast.
Yeah.
He's great.
I'm a huge fan of his.
And, you know, if you think about just what does the body do naturally when
you exercise, right? So let's say you did a big squat workout and you just tore a bunch
of quad muscle. What's your body going to do? It's going to send more blood flow, more
amino acids, more oxygen to that muscle. It's going to clear something called creatinine,
muscle breakdown product from that area. It's going to bring amino acids. It's going
to bring oxygen. Why would you want to shut that process down? Right? Why would you
want to put yourself in cold water and strip all of that blood out of the vessel?
Yeah.
So now you've shut the healing process down. So unless you have an injury, it's good to ice an injury.
You know, if you have a ligament or tendon or strain, then by all means ice it after exercise.
But getting in cold water will actually inhibit your myofibral repair, the protein synthesis. And so, putting athletes in cold water before exercise is much better than after exercise.
In fact, making them hyperthermic after exercise or putting them in red light therapy will
significantly enhance their recovery.
So wait, so I'm okay, I do all this stuff, right?
So that's why I'm curious, but I have like a, the salt, the outvote. I see that, now I have the, I've got the plung, the plung, the cold'm okay. I'm I do all this stuff right so that's why I'm curious But I have like a the stock the out there
I see now that I have the the plug I got plunge it cold plunges. I have the
Thera with the Thera light 360 no the Thera light 360 is part of a superhuman protocol that a friend of mine actually
Just started like a few days ago now. Oh, it's amazing. I don't understand and can't I'm gonna talk to you
But that because because the bread light for I also, me too, but I'm, isn't
there like a pro the protocol this we're going all over the place. I'm sorry, but the super
human protocol, it's lying on this PMF map, right? And then the ox, you run a bicycle with
oxygen for three minutes, right? And then you go into that red light, right? Yes. Now, in that, is there, and this is the reason why I'm asking you, like, in the order that
you're doing something, in any of these modalities, does it enhance and benefit you?
Yes.
The order enhances it tremendously.
So if you look at the superhuman protocol, first of all, the superhuman protocol is basically
taking everything from mother nature.
Yeah.
That's good.
And bringing it inside.
Okay.
So you can get a superhuman protocol, or I'll teach you how to do it for free.
Yeah.
Teach me how to do it for free.
Okay.
So first, the superhuman protocol is magnetism, oxygen, and light.
Okay.
And you know, one of the fascinating things that I'm finding, you know, now running in
some very elevated circles with some of the top biohackers and anti-aging longevity experts,
some of the greatest researchers on the planet,
is that everything is coming full circle.
And by that, I mean,
we're really realizing that we need to get back to the basics
in order to address longevity,
in order to address aging,
in order to address optimal health.
And by the basics, I mean,
the further we get away from mother nature,
we get magnetism from the earth, we get a oxygen from the air, we get light from the sun.
We were meant to spend more than 90% of our time outdoors.
Now more than 80% of our time outdoors, now we spend more than 90% of our time indoors.
So the light is different.
We're not getting, the truth is most of us are not getting enough sun.
It's not that we're getting too much sun.
And so think about the last time that you had bare feet,
touching bare soil like dirt, grass, sand.
That's the last time you discharged into the earth.
So the pH range of the body is very narrow.
It's about four or five, tens of a point.
We want to be slightly towards the alkaline side.
It's a complete fallacy that you can get alkaline
by drinking alkaline water.
And that's the biggest marketing myth ever sold to the public.
What's the best, well, then it doesn't matter.
We can just drink regular spring water.
I mean, the best water, if you really want the best water,
it's hydrogen water.
You know, you want to add hydrogen to your water.
I use something on an echo water filtration system.
But if you look at the research on hydrogenated water,
I mean, there's an entire class of bacteria
in your gut called hydrophiles.
You can increase hydration.
You can increase the absorption of supplements, of foods, of minerals.
It helps with the enzymatic activity and the stomach.
Hydrogen water isn't a category in my opinion, all of its own.
And where do I get it?
How do I make it?
What do I do with it?
I use something called an echo water filtration system myself.
In fact, in my bag, I have a portable hydrogen generator, and I will take bottle water and
put it in there and hit a button and four minutes later it makes hydrogen water.
But if you don't want to spend the money on getting them under, because these machines
are a few grand, then mountain valley spring water is, I would say, in glass bottles probably
at the epitome of water that you can drink.
Okay, good to know.
But, you know, if we get, give back to the basics, you know, the, the magnetism that we get
from the earth can actually change the pH of the body, right?
pH stands for potential hydrogen, it's a charge.
So if we want to change the charge, we need to run a low-gouse current through the body.
This happens by touching the surface of the earth, or you can do it by laying on a PEMF
mat. Right.
Pulse electromagnetic field.
I have this one by Thereseau.
Have you seen this one?
No, but I'll probably...
I'm not sure.
When I get on my send-in to a third party lab
and I haven't tested, I'm astounded.
There are some great PEMF mats out there.
You know, the one that we use is called a pulse,
but there are several that I've tested
that actually had serious dirty frequency coming out of them
and they even attracted Wi-Fi, microwave, radio wave, 5G into the mat. They drew it into the mat.
So it's important that you know certain PMF mats are meant to actually provide a current that can create a muscle contraction.
Right. Which is great for like a muscle spasm and whatnot. But the one you wanna use daily is a PMF mat
that runs a very low gals current through the body.
It will alkalize all 32 trillion cells in the body.
It will help create some vasodilation
and your microcapillaries, it will reduce inflammation,
and it's akin to laying on the surface of the earth,
it's akin to sleeping on the ground.
And then you get oxygen,
and the second part of the superhuman protocol
is this oxygen therapy called hypermax.
And basically it's a 900 liter bag
that you can fill over and over again
with an oxygen concentrator.
And you get on a cycle
and you breathe this oxygen for 10 to 12 minutes.
A short period of time, so you don't adapt.
You don't actually start to lower your riblet's account.
It's actually called multi-step oxygen therapy.
And there's some phenomenal science behind it.
Dr. Otto Warberg was one of the big lead researchers.
I think he actually won a Nobel Prize for it.
And multi-step oxygen therapy is
profusing the tissues with oxygen, right?
So, but again, people that don't want to spend that money
on a
hypermax oxygen system, which is the Cadillac can learn to do breath work. So, get out,
touch the surface of the earth with bare feet, learn to do breath work, I do a
whim off-style of breath work. Yeah. Again, both of these things are free. Exposure skin to sunlight.
Don't be afraid of the sun, especially first light, because there's a very special type of light
in the first 45 minutes of the day. There's no UVA, there's no especially first light, because there's a very special type of light in the first 45 minutes of the day.
There's no UVA, there's no UVB light, so there's some damaging rays in the first 45 minutes.
What time is this at?
Right as the sun crests are horizon for the next 45 minutes.
So we call it first light.
First light, okay.
First light.
So the superhuman protocol is magnetism, oxygen, and light.
If you want the convenience, get a PMF mat, get a hypermax oxygen, and get a red light therapy bed. If you want to do
it the way that God intended for us, you can walk on the surface of the
earth, you can do breath work, and you can expose your skin to sunlight. First
thing in the morning. And you can do all of those things at the same time if you
have a backyard. Yeah. And stop worrying about whether or not it's too hot or too
cold or it's raining or it's anything else your body will make it for eight or ten minutes.
Right.
You're fine.
So you're doing the PMF mat for how long?
You do the...
So what I do is I put the PMF mat in my bed.
So I lay it right on top of my mattress and when I go to bed I turn it on a setting called
tranquility and runs a low-gouse current through your body.
It helps you get into a deep delta wave of sleep.
And then you...
You not only wake up refreshed every day,
but you wake up alkaline.
And then I walk down the hallway,
or I got on my deck,
and I do 10 minutes on the bike breathing.
And I do two and 93% O2,
which is called EWOT,
exercise with oxygen therapy.
There's an enormous amount of science behind that.
If you go to my Instagram,
I put links to all the peer-reviewed articles.
And then I go immediately into a red light bed.
And red light therapy therapy in my opinion is
the rage in longevity and anti-aging because it has a profound effect on the mitochondria the powerhouse of the cell and
You know when certain wavelengths of light particularly 810 nanometers pass through the skin and and pass through the cell wall
They cause the mitochondria to release a certain gas called mitochondrial nitroxide.
And it causes oxygen to dock.
And I have a saying that, you know, the presence of oxygen is the absence of disease.
And nothing is more truthful than that saying.
You know, almost every disease-e dialogical process that we saw in the insurance space
either had its roots in a lack of blood oxygen
or it was exacerbated by a lack of blood oxygen.
I mean, if you look at all kinds of neuropathic disorders
in mental illnesses, depression, anxiety,
Alzheimer's dementia, they all have a hypoxic component,
component to low blood flow, low blood oxygen.
Cardiovascular disease, afloar sclerosis, arterial sclerosis, all of these conditions,
type 2 diabetes, have a link to poor blood flow and poor oxygen levels.
So red light forces oxygen into the mitochondria.
And if you think about it, 10% of your body weight is mitochondria.
You got about 110 trillion of these things in the human body.
And this is where we get our energy from.
We're not really powered by the food we eat in the air we breathe in the water we drink.
We're powered by one source of energy called ATP.
This is made in the mitochondria.
And if we can enhance mitochondrial function, this is the genesis of how we can reverse
the aging process.
So then if we don't have a bad to lion, right, most of us don't, where else can we get
red light? Like there's all those, like I know I have panels, you have like little panels,
small panels. I can't, I have red light by the same company, Therosage, but it's a
trilight. And it's like, we can put it on your body, you can take it off, put it anywhere
else. Like where else, does it matter in your opinion, where you're getting it from?
Like there's other people also have it.
Yeah.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
We're not the only ones that have it.
Right.
No, no, what I'm saying is like, where do people like the average person, the average Joe
listening to this podcast, who doesn't have access to, let's say the bed or to what I have
or what anybody has.
What's the most cost effective way? Yeah, let's start at zero and then work our way up to. That's say, the bed or to what I have or what anybody has. What's the most cost effective way?
Yeah, let's start at zero and then work our way up to,
that would be great.
You have an endless budget.
If your budget is zero, and then you want to be grounding
or a thing, you want to be contacting the Earth
for 6 to 15 minutes.
Just a red light though.
And then you want to be exposing your skin to sunlight.
Sunlight for sure, yeah.
First in the first 45 minutes of the day.
And that can be your exchange for red light therapy. Oh, it could actually, oh. First in the first 45 minutes of the day and that can be your
exchange for red light therapy. Oh, it could actually. It's going to cost you zero. Got it.
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You want to make sure that it has the 680 to 720 nanometer wavelength.
You want to specifically make sure that it has the 810 nanometers and 940 nanometers.
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So if you can find those in the
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And like the, in like my sauna outside, right?
I have, it's like a red light sauna.
Is that effective?
Yes, because you have, if you have an infrared sauna,
because you remember the fire sauna.
Yeah, it's a nip-ray sauna.
Yeah.
It has two types of sweating, right?
Yeah.
You have passive sweating and active sweating.
We passively sweat to reduce body temperature.
We actively sweat to eliminate waste.
Right.
So you want to actively sweat.
If you're going to be spent time in a sauna,
preferably it would be infrared,
because there's more active sweat,
there's more waste elimination,
than just heating up to try to cool down.
So, I think it was on Andrew Huberman's podcast.
I don't know, it was Andrew Huberman's podcast,
that he was saying that the sauna,
I thought the one outside was not hot enough,
because he was saying the hotter the better like the whole rage right now is
having these barrels these barrel on us that are like at 200 degrees
Versus this infrared that goes to 165 or 170 right is there's a lot of controversy around the effectiveness of this I think that there's a lot of controversy around the effectiveness of this. I think that there's a lot of positive and non-controversial information about saunas,
mean that increasing longevity, reducing cardiovascular risk, improving mood, regardless of the kind.
Regardless of the kind.
The thing that I would caution people against is very hot environments for prolonged periods
of time are not good for you.
Again, remember that your brain is only a quarter of an inch
inside the surface of your skull.
I agree with that.
It is not good to bake it.
It's not good to freeze it.
And so I did.
I sit in there for 30, my friend just standing
in these scenes for 30 minutes.
30 minutes and 200 degrees to me is.
No, 20.
And how did you see these beans all over the place?
I'm going to show them to you off when I get off this podcast
with you.
It's like all the rage.
Here's a good idea.
So set your oven at 180 degrees or 200 degrees.
Put your head in it.
And take six eggs in the shell and just set them on a pan and put it in there for 20 minutes
and take them back out and see what's happened to the egg.
And understand that your brain doesn't have much more protection than that.
If you really want to do a better experiment, then take it and wrap it in a towel that's an inch thick and put those eggs inside of a towel that's
an inch thick and put it in the oven at 200 degrees and leave it in there for 40 minutes. When you
take it out and you unwrap that towel and you look at that egg becoming hard boiled, decide whether
or not you want that same insulation for your brain, you want to expose your brain.
Well, they wear the sonahats. Okay, the sonahats will help. The sauna hats, the wool sauna hats is like the thing, right?
But you know, again, we're not trying to adapt to heat,
just like we're not trying to adapt to cold,
we're trying to shock the body and have a whor medic response, right?
Yeah, everyone's extreme, right?
It's like a bad, if 170's good, then 220 must be better, right?
We don't think that with weight, we think that with a lot of body movements,
why there's so many injuries in sports that are not supervised like crossfit. I used
don't across fit gym. I finally sold the gym because I realized it's very hard to teach an
average person compound Olympic movements. And I don't have an issue with heavy weight.
And I don't have an issue with speed. But I do have an issue with speed and heavy weight.
You know, deadlifting for time, overhead snatching for time. And, you know, this has a severe risk of injury.
And because a small, small part of the populace
can accomplish it successfully,
does not mean that this should be put to the masses.
100%.
And so, I feel the same way about sonas and cold plunging.
You know, it becomes like an ego contest.
Well, I got in at 37 degrees.
I got in at 32 degrees. I got in at 32 degrees.
I got in and solidized.
Well, that's what's happening though.
Seriously, that's what's happening.
People are now are just like screw that.
I'm just going to get like 10 bags of ice and put it in.
And that's what I'm going to do.
And like, it's becoming very, it's very, very trendy, right?
That's what's like all these things,
even though they've been done years and years ago,
have become super, super popular popular and and hashtag worthy now.
I think they're it's great they're becoming popular because I think the more that we do
to challenge ourselves and stress the bodies it's so that it strengthens and responds.
It's it's excellent for us.
But again three minutes minimum six minutes maximum 48 degrees to 50 degrees Fahrenheit.
You will do just fine and a cold plunge every day in the morning before your exercise.
Even before your coffee.
I love that. Don't negotiate with yourself. just fine in a cold plunge every day in the morning before your exercise, even before your coffee.
I love that.
Don't negotiate with yourself.
Get up in the morning, brush your teeth, wash your face,
walk to the edge of the cold plunge,
take four deep breaths and get in.
Is it a good, just for someone who just wants weight loss,
can it help, can it help just improve your metabolism
enough to increase it down?
No, no question.
Anything that heats the body up, you know,
or cools it down, is it?
Yeah, well, this is gonna cool it down. Well, this is going to cool it down.
It's the return to body temperature
that's where you really burn the fat.
And thermogenesis, which comes mainly
from something called brown fat,
if it increases your metabolic rate
and you maintain the same calories,
you're going to lose weight.
In my opinion, there's nothing that will strip weight
off your body faster than getting in cold water.
A calorie is a measure of heat.
Yeah.
It's the amount of heat that it takes to raise one cubic centimeter of water, one degree centigrade, measured in cold water. A calorie is a measure of heat. Yeah. Right. It's the amount of heat
that it takes to raise one cubic centimeter of water, one degree centigrade, measured in
jewels. And so, if a calorie is a measure of heat, then when heat is leaving your body,
what do you think is leaving your body? Right. The equivalent of calories. So, you know, this,
I don't believe there's anything that will strip that off your body faster than getting the cold water. Wow. Like, so if you were have to pick a sauna
or a cold plunge in terms of overall health,
what was the one which, if you had to pick one,
which one would it be?
No question to cold plunge.
Really?
Absolutely.
No question.
Hands down.
You can do it every single day, three to six minutes.
Cold plunge in my opinion will do more for your mood,
your emotional state, your endorphin levels,
your fatty acid metabolism,
you know, oxygenating the brain in the core, and in my opinion, it's significantly less
risky than high heat.
So, wow.
Okay, so what if, how much of the people who like to go in the sauna for 10 minutes and
then work out versus what you said, but the cold plunge?
Now, because I would think that, oh, you're getting your body warmed up, it's helping you
to obviously sweat and da-da-da-da-da.
That's just like kind of like just old school thinking or a myth.
Yeah, that's old school thinking.
So, when if we get cold before we exercise, now don't get out of a cold punch and go straight
into lifting heavy weights.
Let your body to warm back up.
It's actually better to warm up before exercise than it is to stretch.
Actually, a lot of good physiotherapist will tell you, don't stretch before exercise,
just warm the muscles up. So, what we don't want to do is get in cold water immediately after
intense exercise and shut down the repair process. So, in my opinion, if you were hypothermic before
you exercised and hyperthermic after exercise exercise you have the best of both worlds.
The ideal situation would be cold plunge warm up exercise and then either get into a sauna or
get into a red light therapy bed even better. Even better. No question. You know someone was telling me
a bio really well known one that if you want to keep muscle mass or build muscle mass don't do
the don't do the cold plunging.
Don't do the cold plung after exercising.
Yeah.
I don't believe that there's any physiologic downside to cold water immersion after, I mean,
prior to intense exercise.
So is that like a myth in your opinion?
It's not really a research back that.
I'm not aware of any research that would say cold plunging in the mornings after having
an intense exercise the previous day would have any negative physiologic effect.
In fact, most of the superhuman athletes that I work with
and they're very well-known athletes,
they get into cold water in the mornings
and they get hyperthermic
or they use red light therapy after exercise.
Yeah, to build muscle though?
To build muscle and recover from it.
Yeah, the recover for sure.
This one was telling me, when I'm talking about
that he was told that, or he's been trained to now
because he's trying to build mass, not to do the cold plunge.
I would say not to do cold plunge after a mass building exercise, but I'm not aware of any negative impact on muscle hypertrophy or muscle hyperplasia,
given its distance from when you exercise.
So maybe it is after he works out.
It could be that.
It's probably immediately after.
It probably is immediately after the work,
but that itself.
There's a lot of negative evidence to say
that cold plunging immediately after workout is not.
It's not the greatest thing.
It's not going to help you repair.
Okay, so now let's get back to all the other stuff,
because like, I mean, these are all,
like, I can go into a million tangents here.
So, like, you're so knowledgeable.
Is it true that you have like a photographic memory
and you remember, you can memorize everything?
Yeah, well, just what I read.
So I can remember voluminous amounts of information
that I read.
So you know, when I was in, it really happened
in around the eighth grade.
They thought that I was either a savant
or a autistic or something was wrong. But they found out that I was either a savant or a tis-tik or something was wrong.
But they found out that I was just clinically photographic.
So I'm very cautious about what I read.
So I only read peer-reviewed journals, only read science.
I don't read for pleasure.
I can't really read for pleasure.
Because you'll just remember everything.
Yeah, I don't look at menus in a restaurant.
I can't read the seatback magazine on an airplane or...
You can't look at a menu?
No. Or I'll tell you,
you know, the entire breakfast menu for a, you know, a nominal restaurant that maybe I just stopped
in to eat once. So it wasn't in your brain, you can't get it out. Yeah, so I don't have a really
a choice over what I record. I just, you know, I record the luminous amounts of information. I used
to get, queues a lot in school of cheating because I would take my test and flip it over, I would
write formulas on the back of my test.
And you know, my physics professor would say,
can't bring formulas into the class.
I would say I didn't bring them into the class.
I wrote them on the back of the test
so I could refer to them during the test.
They do it.
Are you serious?
Oh yeah, and he would say, if that's a fact,
could you turn your paper over right now
and rewrite all those formulas right here
in my office in front of me?
I got a zero on a physics exam one time for that.
And when he called me in my office, he made me do exactly that.
He said, so I guess you could rewrite all of those formulas right here in front of me.
And I said, sure, give me a pen.
And I sat there with a pen and I rewrote all the formulas for my previous physics test
and gave it to him.
And he was like, wow, okay, got an 98.
Are you serious?
Yeah, so when I was in grad school at National University of Health Sciences, I was the only
one that the dean approved to tutor the class while I was taking it.
So I was taking gross anatomy.
We had nine hours of cadaver anatomy a week.
And now I think back, I'm like, gosh, I breathe for maldehyde for nine hours.
No, yeah.
I mean, being the biohacker, I'm now probably would have taken a huge issue with that because
it was just a giant room full of cadavers.
Wow. But I would take the class for three hours huge issue with that because it was just a giant room full of cadavers. Wow.
But I would take the class for three hours
and then I would tutor it after the class.
So wait a second.
So was photographic and photogenic the different?
They're similar.
I mean, photographic memory is just an extraordinarily
ability to recall information that you have viewed.
We have information that you've seen.
And so my auditory memory is terrible.
My wife will tell you that.
Really?
I can have a...
You're a guy, I'm not surprised at all.
You're like, you know, you're gonna eat me.
We're going to such and such a place for dinner tonight.
I'm like, great babe, what time?
Seven o'clock and it's like 7.45.
She's like, where the hell are you?
I'm like, what do you mean?
I'm at the gym.
Oh my God.
I told you we're going to dinner.
Oh my God, yeah.
So she writes things down if she wants me to.
Oh my god.
It has to be like just a male thing.
No matter how photographic photogenic, it doesn't matter.
Really, it's like unbelievable.
But if I read it, and then I'll never forget it.
So if you read it, you'll always remember it.
So you know, a lot of times people are like, you're so smart, but I'm not actually that smart.
I'm just recalling generally other people's information, information that you've either
read or studied.
So there's no, you don't have a cap, no matter what you read, no matter what, it will
always remember it.
Or does it fade after time?
I mean, it barely fades, especially if it's a topic that I'm interested in.
I have just a voluminous capacity to recall,
you know, I was in a contract negotiation recently
with my current company,
and I recalled every provision of every version
of every contract since the day they acquired the company.
So I didn't have to actually have the contract in front of me.
I was able to have a, you know,
a realistic call with all of the attorneys on the phone
while I'm driving,
because when we first started the company,
I used to commute from Naples to Miami.
It was a two and a half hour drive.
And so during that drive, I would lay all of these lab results
and gene test results for multiple patients out on the table.
And then I would just record all that information
and then I would get in the car
and I would talk to the patients for two and a half hours
going across the alley and I would walk them through their laps and I would talk to the patients for two and a half hours going across the alley,
and I would walk them through their laps,
and there were hundreds of lab values on there,
and I would just go through them sequence.
It's amazing.
So, could your photogent, a photographic, you said,
photographic?
Okay, so let's give back to,
we went on a real-long tangent about cold plunge and the sauna,
but we were at the place where you were telling us
about actually vitamin D.
And when you were at a life insurance company.
And I guess I would love to know the origin of your life,
because here you are, I know you're a human biologist,
you're obviously a biohacker.
You've done extraordinary, like your whole idea
and your whole concept, if I'm not mistaken,
is your body,
the raw, you're basically, if someone is deficient in a mineral that their body has, and they can replenish
that particular raw material, or whatever that is, you can, you know, for lack of a better word,
become like superhuman, or really exponentially increase your health by 10 or
100.
And no doubt.
I mean, most of the people listening to this podcast right now are probably walking
around it, about 60 to 65% of their true state of normal.
They've forgotten how good normal really feels.
And you know, most of us accept so many things as a consequence of aging, you know, waking,
water retention, brain fog. You know, a consequence of aging, waking, water retention,
brain fog, I can't sleep, I have anxiousness, I have some anxiety.
I've got hormone imbalance.
I don't have the same waking energy I had a few years ago.
My short-term memory doesn't seem to be as good.
And we chalk it up to a consequence of aging or stress or environment or our careers.
It's actually none of those things.
It is a consequence of missing raw material.
And what I mean is, when you deprive the human body
of certain raw materials, certain vitamins, minerals,
amino acids, you get the expression of disease.
So in other words, rarely does disease run in families.
Rarely do we actually have genetically inherited disease.
There are some exceptions, there are some genes that pass disease from generation to
generation. But the majority of the time, what we pass from generation to
generation, if you have hypothyroid and your father had hypothyroid and your, you
know, grandmother on your mother's side had hypothyroid. A physician is likely
going to tell you, you have genetically inherited hypothyroid or genetically
inherited hypertension or hypercholestralemia or hyperchraglisidemia.
And very often it's not the genetically inherited disease.
It is a genetically inherited inability for the body to take a raw material that enters the body.
I'm a vitamin, a mineral, an amino acid, a nutrient, and converted into the usable form.
This process in human beings is called methylation.
It is the most important process that our bodies go through every day.
You do it 300 billion times a day.
What is it?
It's the process of taking a raw material like folic acid, comes into our diet.
Folic acid is useless in the human body.
You can't use folic acid in any physiologic transaction.
The body takes folic acid and it converts it through a series of steps into something
called methylfolate. Now the body can use that mineral. It's just like we pull crude oil
out of the ground. But you can't put crude oil into your gas tank. The car doesn't understand
that fuel source. Crude oil has to be refined in the gasoline and now the car can run.
Well, if you couldn't refine that crude oil, that vehicle would never run. Human beings are no different.
If you don't know what your body can process and what it can't, then you don't know what deficiency
you have. It is this deficiency that leads to some of the most common ailments that we face as
mankind. You know, we define, for example, depression, one of the most common ailments that we face as mankind.
You know, we define, for example, depression, one of the ways we define depression in this
country is an inadequate supply of serotonin.
So if you're low on serotonin, you're by definition depressed.
So you would think that the fix would be to raise serotonin, but that's not what we do.
We take people that are low on serotonin and we put them on something called SSR highs.
Serotonin re-uptake inhibitors. So what these do effectively is they ration
what little serotonin you have.
They reduce the uptake of serotonin, so they ration it.
So by definition, they never raise serotonin.
So by definition, they never end depression.
That's why I see people all the time
and I say, well, how long have you been on any depressants?
And I say, 12, 15 years.
And I go, well, when did you think it was going to kick in?
But if we understand that serotonin is made in the gut,
90% of the serotonin in the body is in the gut.
If you don't have it here, you can't have it here.
Depression rarely begins in an outside environment.
That may be what triggers it.
But it is exacerbated because of low serotonin.
This is why most people that are depressed also have gut issues.
Because serotonin is also responsible for gut motility.
It is very easy, in many cases,
to turn the serotonin factory back on.
So how do we create serotonin?
We take an amino acid called tripdaphan
and the body methylates it in serotonin.
So if you're deficient in certain B vitamins,
methylfolate, certain amino acids,
you can't make this conversion.
So now you have low serotonin, so you're depressed. But you're not depressed because you have true
depression, you're depressed because your body is deficient in amino acids, B
vitamins, and certain light metals, magnesium, and zinc that are required to
make this conversion. And just by putting those back into the human body very
often, you can raise the level of serotonin and depression can eviscerate. And
this is true with anxiety. I mean, most people that have anxiety
have the same characteristics.
You can prove that it's not coming from their outside
environment.
And if you ask somebody that's suffering
from anxiety three questions,
if you say, have you had it on and off
throughout your lifetime?
Most of the time they'll say yes.
Okay.
Yeah.
It's your first sign that's coming from a gene mutation.
And do you ask them, can you point to the specific trigger
that causes it?
I'm very often they'll say no.
I don't have to be afraid of heights and walk to the edge of a 30th floor balcony.
I don't have to be claustrophobic and get on a crowded elevator.
I can just feel anxiety sitting here in a podcast with you right now.
So, that's your seconds.
I'm very intimidating.
That is.
Well.
So, that's your second sign that is coming from your physiology.
And then if you ask them, have you ever tried any anxiety medications?
They'll say, they don't work.
They just make me feel like a zombie.
Now, you take that person, test them for these five genes that I'm a big fan of, one
of which is called MTHFR.
And you find they have this gene mutation.
They have a deficiency in methylfolate.
So now their body doesn't have the raw material it needs to make serotonin.
It doesn't have the raw material that it needs to degrade catacolomines, fight or flight neurotransmitters. And so when you put this raw material back into
the human body, something as simple as methylfolate, SAME, magnesium, zinc, the complex of
the vitamins. What's SAME? Esadenosolmophinein. For people that have a difficult time sleeping very
often, they're low in a nutrient called SAME that the brain uses to quiet the mind.
And so a lot of people will lay down to go to sleep at night
and their body tired, but as soon as they try to go to sleep, their mind is awake.
And their mind starts to replay the day. And if you ask them,
That's me. Well, kind of things you're thinking about. They'll say,
I'm thinking about the most innocuous little things. Like, you know, did I get everything on my grocery list?
Did I bilmatch my shoes?
Did I return that email?
Nothing that couldn't wait till the next day.
This is excess catacolamines in the brain.
This is a category of neurotransmitters similar to fight or flight.
And when they rise in the brain at night, we can't degrade them as quickly, so it keeps
us awake. So simple vitamins, methylated vitamins,
and minerals, and amino acids,
can very often fix that.
I mean, people that get a gene test
and they find where their gene breaks are,
and they supplement for deficiency,
not for the sake of supplementing.
When I go to most people's supplement cabinets,
I see it's like a myriad of nonsense.
It depends on what they read last week, right? So it's like N MN, nicotine my robocide, nicotine my acid, my
form and, you know, I read this on this guy's website, I read this
on this guy's website.
100%, I 100%.
So your whole take and that makes that makes sense is that you
should be supplementing for where you're deficient, not just
supplementing for the sake of supplementing.
You want to see magic happen in the human body. Yeah, start supplementing for where you're deficient, not just supplementing for the sake of supplementing. You want to see magic happen in the human body.
Yeah. Start supplementing for deficiency,
for your deficiencies.
And you can, it's called a methylation test.
I'm not the only one that does this test.
There are hundreds of great companies that do it.
You test your methylated genes and methylation.
They're out.
And there's five main ones that I like to look at.
And this will tell you what raw materials
your body can convert into the usable form
and what it can.
Watch what happens to your body when you give it the raw material it needs to do its job.
Just imagine if you were clinically deficient in vitamin D3 and you took vitamin D3.
What if you realize that you can't process folic acid, you have to take methyl folate,
or you realize that the folic acid in your diet is actually the cause of your anxiety and your ADD and your ADD.
How would you know, though, like, how do you know?
Well, take this test.
By the way, I've been taking vitamin D for years.
Mm-hmm.
Right.
But I feel like everyone now is like over vitamin, like everyone's taking so much vitamin D.
Well, the majority of the population is clinically deficient in vitamin D3.
I mean, between 60 and 80 nanograms per desolateator, you know, if you go on most blood tests,
I mean, the low end is 30, the high end is 100.
Between 60 and 80 nanograms is the perfect,
you know, optimal sweet spot for vitamin D3.
I mean, the second leading cause of morbidity in COVID
was clinical diagnosis in D3.
I know.
Can I tell you something interesting though?
Like, again, another side note, really.
Someone was telling me this years ago
and they were like laughed out of town when they were saying if people took more vitamin D they wouldn't
have COVID, they would reduce their their chances of COVID and they were like shunned and
became ostracized. Oh my gosh, I got lamb- based it during COVID because I was telling people
to fast, I was telling people to take vitamin D3, magnesium zinc and even some of the antivirals
that are now they're realizing that the antivirals, Ivermectin and some of these other antivirals
were the panacea.
Exactly.
You know, we have a pretty large clinic now,
and we have a lot of physicians that work for us,
and a very large part of the patients we treat
are long COVID and vaccine injury.
Isn't that exactly?
I'm saying,
I do think there's even a correlation between,
I've noticed just in people I know, not in my close friend circle,
but definitely people that I are around my periphery,
who are very young, like in their forties,
who are very active people, doctors,
a few doctors who are like dropping dead of heart attacks,
literally like five of them.
Like, it's really, and they all,
is it be cut, and people are wondering if it's because
the only thing that they all, like they are all,
obviously, they, everyone took the,
what do you call it, the vaccination and the boosting,
is that a correlation between the heart?
Well, I mean, if you look at,
I should be careful what they say.
I mean, yeah, we're gonna get canceled back.
I always get uncomfortable talking about that.
I get uncomfortable too, if I edit the part out, because I swear if I even put this in a teaser,
I'll be like shunned. Yeah, well, I mean, the thing is, if you look at, you know, a lot of the
design of some of these vaccines, they're mRNA, messenger RNA. Yeah. And, you know, if you look inside
of a cell and you look at the nucleus of a cell inside of there is the DNA. That's the boss.
Okay, that's the CEO. That's the CEO.
It's running the show.
And it basically has two functions.
It has a lot more, but it has two basic functions.
One is replication.
It makes a perfect copy of itself.
But the other one is something called transcription, where it's actually giving commands
into the cell.
So like a CEO sitting at their desk, writing orders into the cell, telling all the minions
what to do, throw this protein out, bring this protein in,
throw this waste product out, bring this through the ion channel.
It's, you know, make this protein, don't make that protein.
It's basically writing orders, okay?
Those orders are called messenger RNA.
They leave the nucleus of the cell,
they go out into the cell, and they give a command to the cell.
One of them is make a protein.
Only in a few hours that command disintegrates. Okay, so that messenger
RNA gives a command to the cell, it makes a protein and then that message goes away.
Yeah.
With the mRNA vaccine, they made that message permanent. So now what happens is it's an
imposter. It's stolen the CEO's notepad and it is sending commands into the cell as if it were the CEO.
So the cell responds. One of the commands is make each spike protein.
A type of protein. Only as soon as the cell makes the spike protein and it gets
and that minion gets back to their desk, the same command is on the desk. So it makes the spike protein again.
And then when it's done making the spike protein, it goes back to its desk and it makes the spike protein again.
And it makes it again and again and again and again
And so this is why we don't know whether or not that's going to be shut off or not because right now a lot of these mRNA vaccines are
permanent messages to the cell to create a spike protein
So this rise in spike protein then causes these proteins to embed themselves in the arterial wall
You get something called diffuse
vasculitis or dystonia vasculitis, which is inflammation in the lining of the
artery. And you can also, when you get these proteins, you get abnormal platelet
clotting, something called thrombolytic thromocytopenia. And you know, we
like to think that the skin is the largest organ in the body, but the truth is
that the surface area of the skin, the inside of your blood vessels, is about six
times the surface area of your skin.
You have 63,000 miles of blood vessel in your body.
So just imagine if you had inflammation
in the lining of that blood vessel.
And I was talking to a cardiologist about this the other day.
He's like, well, we have this diffuse inflammation
throughout the body.
Why don't I see it on imaging?
I go, well, why don't you see a sunburn on imaging?
I don't think you would argue if I had a third-degree sunburn
that there's damage to my skin.
But if you did an image of the skin, it would look normal. Right? I mean, if you did typical imaging. I don't think you would argue if I had a third-degree sunburn that there's damage to my skin. But if you did an image of the skin, it would look normal. Right?
I mean, if you did typical imaging. So that's why if it's, you know, you have this inflammation.
So now nutrients can't leave the blood and enter the tissue. Ways can't leave the tissue
and enter the bloodstream. And this is why the whole focus for these types of conditions is blood flow
reducing inflammation, repairing the arterial wall.
This is crazy.
I mean, I'm even scared to delve into it, right?
Because it's so much easier for us.
I haven't been able to have time on social media.
For sure.
And look, that's not my opinion.
I'm not an anti-vaxxer.
I mean, but even if anyone has a God forbid, people have their own opinion.
People get so enraged about it.
And I don't understand that. I have my social media account completely deleted for it.
Yeah, completely deleted.
Because you said this?
Because I'm not making a teaser.
I'm just kidding.
No, but completely because you said this particular part.
Well, because, you know, I was really telling people, you know, during COVID before the
vaccines were out and as they were emerging, you know, I was saying, like, don't sit
on around in your couch and just wait
to stop breathing.
All right, first of all, sunlight, grounding,
breath work, vitamin D3, zinc, magnesium, vitamin C.
Just please start taking these things.
Because-
But even if they're not deficient,
what if they are not deficient in magnesium?
It's hard to overdo it with normal pathocytosis
of those types, like, not-
Okay, so those are kind of benign.
They're super benign.
And a lot of the water soluble vitamins
that just spill over into the urine,
they don't have toxicity doses that you get in those levels.
And so the downside risk is significantly less
than the upside risk.
Very, very rare that someone that's not
supplementing with magnesium is high in magnesium
or somebody that's not getting a ton of sunlight
is too high in vitamin D3. Right.
And so these are basic things that can bolster your immune system.
They can improve the body's response to pathogens.
Because at one point, getting on a ventilator was a kiss of death.
Yeah.
A higher chance of dying from ventilation than you did from the COVID vaccine.
I mean, the COVID infection.
But the real challenge is that we try to outsmart mother nature.
I mean, I just personally believe more in what God gave me to defend myself than an unproven.
But why is that a bad thing?
I keep on coming back to that.
Well, we know now that there's clear definitive evidence that a natural infection, a natural
immune response, gives a longer duration of immunity and a broader,
you know, level of immunity.
Okay, so let's get off the cover thing.
Okay, I know our vis also.
And then I want to keep that, that's that methane test then.
So, would you bet the methane test?
That's one test.
Every human being should do once in their lifetime.
You get so much information from that, you know, it's a problem.
Where do I take, I can't go and talk, call you and be like, hey, can I have this, how much
is this test, first of all?
It's 599 bucks, about 600 bucks.
You do it once in your lifetime.
That's it.
You do it once in your lifetime.
You do it once in your lifetime.
You take a Q-tip, you rub the inside of your cheek, put it in a test tube, you send it
to the lab, the results come back, it will tell you exactly what your body can break
down and what it can't.
And then you can supplement for that deficiency.
How accurate is that thing, though?
Absolutely accurate.
It's a PCR test.
It's polymerase chain reaction test.
It uses your DNA to give you your results.
It's a very easy test for a laboratory to perform.
And these methylated genes are responsible for these conversions, like the folic acid
and the other derivatives of folate
into the form that the body can use. So for example, 44% of the population roughly has the
genetic mutation, MTHFR. And if you want to have some fun, just Google MTHFR, make sure you
capitalize it or you'll find yourself on some really colorful websites
Cuz I won't tell you what the nickname is for that James right sure you can figure it out
Skull the mother from a genius
So if you don't capitalize it you'll be down with the wrong rabbit
But capitalize and
capitalized M to you. I can't tell me to do this.
He's a sicko.
But you know, you put that into the Google search engine, put the word and and put any
condition here.
Did you just say into the Google search engine?
Yeah, put it into Google.
That's what they all like, like, you know, everyone puts Google.
The Google, the why buy it.
Put it into the Google, put it into the Yahoo.
Yeah, put it into wherever the heck you want.
AOL.
But just search it.
Oh, whoa, AOL, really dating.
Really, oh, I'm really aging you.
Yes, exactly.
But, and just put and anxiety and depression and gut health.
And you're going to be astounded at the peer reviewed published clinical studies human
trials, and that have been done or surrounding supplementation for this gene mutation.
And the capacity of the human body to recover from some of the most chronic conditions you
could imagine.
You know, a lot of people that have, you know, real severe gut issues, gas bloating, diarrhea,
constipation, irritability, cramping, crones, irritable bowel syndrome, diverticulitis.
All of these conditions of inflammation are that we think come from an autoimmune condition or
they come from food allergies. In many cases are related to the gut motility. The motility,
the pace of the gut is more important than its contents.
What do you mean?
So you can think of the human intestinal tract as a 30-foot-long conveyor belt, right?
Just like a conveyor belt in the factory, right? So you put a contents on it at one end, and as this, let's say, auto part, traverses this conveyor belt,
every few feet, somebody tinkers with the part, so that by the time it reaches the end of the conveyor belt,
it's fully assembled. This is very much how the inhuman intestinal tract works. It's a 30-foot-long
conveyor belt. You put parts on it at one end when they exit the stomach, they're very acidic. By
the time they exit the rectum
They're very basic and there's instead of people standing along this conveyor belt working on a part
These are bacteria. The sequence of this activity is very important
So if I'm supposed to pass something to you and you're supposed to pass it to the next person and the next person
I can't skip five of you and hand it to somebody further down the line.
So the sequence of events is extraordinarily important.
So imagine, remember Henry Ford was actually made famous
for the assembly line, not for the automobile.
Right, it's a big claim to fame was the assembly line.
So imagine if he walked into his factory one day
and doubled the speed of the conveyor belt.
The entire assembly line would break down.
There's nothing wrong with the conveyor belt.
There's nothing wrong with the people working there. There's nothing wrong with the people working there.
There's nothing wrong with the part that's on there.
So there's nothing wrong with the human being.
There's nothing wrong with the intestinal tract.
There's nothing wrong with what you put in it.
The challenge is the speed.
If I accelerate acidic contents into a basic media function
perverts, gas, bloating, diarrhea, constipation, irritability,
cramping, people that are listening to this, that are starting to identify with it, these are people
that have chased allergies for their lifetime.
They're like, I'm allergic to wheat, soy, gluten, dairy, soy being corn oil.
I'm like, slow down, right?
Yeah.
First of all, there's a certain series of allergies you can't have, or you'd be allergic
to all the essential amino acids you'd be dead.
So the reason why you think you have all these allergies is because each time you have a gut
issue, you correlate it to what you last ate.
So you go, well, wait a second, I ate the same thing on Monday morning and I was fine.
I ate the exact same thing on Wednesday afternoon and I blew up like a tick.
Well, how can I eat the same thing and have two totally different reactions?
Because it's not related to what you're eating, it's related to the pace of the gut, the
speed of the gut.
People that have anxiety generally always suffer from gut issues because the serotonin depletion also affects the gut, the speed of the gut, people that have anxiety generally always suffer from
gut issues because the serotonin depletion also affects the gut motility.
This is why gene testing is so important because if I can fix the serotonin deficiency, I
can fix the gut and the mood and the anxiety and the emotional state.
When you deprive the body of certain raw materials, you get the expression of disease.
It's the same thing and very often in thyroid,
when it imitates disease.
It imitates disease.
Like for example, some people have a very difficult time.
They have a gene mutation that doesn't allow them to
metabolize an amino acid in their blood called homocysteine.
Okay, homocysteine is found in everybody's blood stream.
It's normal amino acid, but when it rises,
it becomes one of the most inflammatory compounds in the human body. If you haven't been tested for
homeostean, you should do a blood test for that. So let's say that you know, you
come from a long line of people that have inherited hypertension. You know, my
father had hypertension, my grandfather had hypertension, my grandmother, my mom
side had hypertension, I'm making this up. When you talk to your physician, they're
gonna say you have something called idiopathic hypertension.
Hypertension of an unknown origin, it's probably genetically inherited.
Okay.
Well, my first question would be, what gene did I inherit that gave me hypertension?
Because their face will go blank.
They won't be able to tell you what gene in most cases.
But what you inherit is an inability to metabolize homocysteine.
As this compound rises in the bloodstream and it's cruising by the arterial wall, it irritates the artery and the artery clamps
down. If you make the pipes smaller in a fixed system, pressure goes up. And so
you get you go to the doctor and your EKG is normal, your stress EKG is normal,
your cardiac cath is normal, your diet contrast studies normal, your stress
EKG, your heart and lung sounds are all normal, but they still put you on blood pressure medication because
they can't figure out the source. Well, this is in some cases, this is because
your arteries have narrowed driving the pressure up. It's very easy to bring
homocysteine down. If you know that you have this inability to convert
homocysteine, you can supplement for it and drop your hormone cysteine, relax
the arterial wall and very often return your blood pressure to normal.
So what if people can't, you know, what I found, this is interesting, like some people
aren't able to even digest properly, like they're not digesting their supplement or their
food, like they're- Got motility issues.
That means that all the- Because what happens is is so if I speed the gut up too fast,
I take a sit at contents I accelerated to basic media. Well, first you do the gene test and once
you find out what's your deficient and you supplement for that deficiency, restore the normal
parasitaltic activity to the gut and very often you when you restore the normal parasitaltic
activity, the pace of the gut, you'll also restore the proper strength to
the sphincter muscles that protect the stomach. So as food goes down the esophagus, it goes through
something called the cardiac sphincter, it goes through a muscle that opens, lets the food in,
and then it closes. And then another one at the bottom of the stomach, called the pyloric sphincter,
opens and lets the contents out into the intestine. So normally these things work in opposition to one another.
When they get weak and they relax,
acid splashes out of the stomach into the esophagus.
We think this is an excess production of acid.
It's not.
So we start taking antacids or proton pump inhibitors.
That is a disaster for your intestinal tract.
Because now you are dumping alkaline contents
into an acidic media, into bacteria that are meant
to receive acidic contents.
So now you've screwed up the entire intestinal tract, right?
So when you supplement with, depending on your gene deficiency, magnesium, sinks, the
complex of B vitamins, certain amino acids, you can very often restore that sphincter strength
and gastro-soffalgeol reflux disease goes away because it's not really a gastric disease that you had. It was a weak
sphincter. The same thing with the, you know, the hypertension. It wasn't really high blood pressure.
It was, it was constricted arteries. Same thing happens in the thyroid.
In the thyroid. So wait till I mean, okay, so you leave this, I'm still only leave the insurance
company after 22 years and then what
did you say to yourself origins let's get for it?
Can I want to I want to show like how I want to kind of explain to people who are listening how you became this guy right because we're working at the insurance company
So I have all this information obviously got a photogenic memory you remember every factoid about the human body that's possible.
Did you quit and say, I'm going to start seeing people and helping them get healthy?
Like what was your step?
It was the process.
It was kind of a very specific case, actually.
So for decades, I was working in this industry and you kind of brainwash yourself to think
that it's just data.
Right.
Because you're not allowed to have contact with the patient.
What did you do actually there?
Were you like the one saying, okay, this person is going to live until January 1966.
This one's going to live until January 1966.
That would be going back in time by the way.
I'm just making up shit.
9.00.
2047.
I'm just making it up.
Among other things, I did life expectancy predictions.
And there are some major companies that do life expectancy predictions, American Biatical
Services of Fassano, if you Google these companies, I mean, they're extraordinarily accurate
and good at what they do.
But I would do a medical record extraction, so I would take the medical records.
I would read all of the patient history, all of the meds that they were on.
I would put all of those things into a table.
I would look at all of the meds that they were on, I would put all of those things into a table, I would look at all of their conditions, and then we would look at models of,
if someone has this level of atherosclerotic disease or this body mass index, or they have this
gene mutation and they're not being treated for it, or they have anemia that's not being treated,
or any number of other conditions, vitamin D3, as we put these things into a model,
it would actually extrapolate out the impact on their life expectancy.
But that was your job. That was actually the job you did.
That was actually the job that I did.
Yes, that was actually the job that I did.
What's the third?
I read medical records for a probabilistic mortality, probably a mortality model.
That's what I did. I built probabilistic mortality models.
Do you remember every single person that you read about because of that memory of yours?
I remember a lot of them. I'll tell you there was a very, very, very strange incident that happened
to me and my wife. She'll remember this. I was never allowed to have any contact with
the treating physician or the patient. And I was working on a case. And it was a very,
very large life insurance policy. And it was a really important case. And we had gotten all their records and all their blood work and all of their testing
and all of their personal information.
And I combed through that and I had completed this probabilistic model.
And then by some crazy stroke of serendipity, we went to dinner with another couple, and
this gentleman was at dinner with us.
So, I sat down next to him, not I had never met him before, but I knew every medication
he was on.
I knew his cardiovascular risk score, I knew his blood pressure readings, I knew how
much met for him and he was saying, I knew everything.
I even knew that he was treating his children differently in this trust and estate, the way
that his will was structured.
Get out.
It was very freaky.
When wasn't it?
Haven't years ago we were talking about, so it was about 10 years ago.
It was right before I left the industry.
Wow.
We showed up at dinner.
That's why I was.
And he said, we're bringing a couple and he gave me their names, but I didn't correlate
the names in the case.
And then when we sat down, I was like, oh my God, you're so in so.
So nice to meet you.
And I so desperately wanted to pull him aside.
It was a very emotional time,
probably getting an emotional talking about it.
But I desperately wanted to pull him aside
and say, you have these modifiable risk factors.
You need to change these five things in your life,
or you are accelerating your pace towards the grave.
And it was a very emotional dinner for us,
and when we left, I think I cried that night,
and I just felt so helpless,
and I, that in another case that we had,
where I began to realize that there were
human beings on the other side of these spreadsheets.
It wasn't just data.
And so, you know, there I was, I wasn't able to, you know, I wasn't able to really do anything
to help these people.
And I just said, you know, how much, how much more time am I going to spend predicting
how long people are going to live until I start helping people live healthier, happier, longer lives.
And so I resigned from that industry and I came home and I told her I wanted to start a
wellness company.
I'm getting emotional.
Oh my God.
Is that really how it happened?
Yeah.
So I came home and I told her I said I quit my job today, babe.
And I want to start a wellness company.
I said I can't.
I'm not going into that office one more day.
I'm looking at another spreadsheet, predicting how soon somebody's going to die.
I really want to help people live healthier, happier, longer lives, and I have the capacity to do it.
I'm the licensed of practice medicine, but we need to find a physician, and we need to open a clinic,
and I need to start looking at this blood work in these gene tests and start
communicating with people how we can help them live longer.
And she was all for it.
And so we started a company called Streamline Medical Group in a,
I don't know if we've ever even told this story,
it was a former vitamin shop in a little strip mall in Naples, Florida,
right next to the busiest LA fitness in the country.
And it was just her and I and a doctor in town and anesthesiologist in town.
And we started doing blood work in gene testing.
And it just started to grow and grow and mushroom and balloon.
And then I started training other physicians.
And I started, you know, sharing my knowledge that I'd learned
in the insurance industry.
And a lot of the doctors initially, there was a lot of friction.
But then when they saw the changes in people
over 10 or 12 weeks, what we could do with their blood work and with their gene tests, they were astounded.
I mean, now we have 120 employees and we've got offices all over the country and it's
just exploding and I'm so blessed because I feel like I found God's purpose for me.
I know because I found something that I would do for free and somehow monetized it.
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Like, I never run out of energy for this because I feel like I have such a whole to fill
because I wasted 22 years of my life enriching an insurance company, helping them predict
how soon, you know, their insureds were going to die and had I just been able to pick up
the phone.
Wow.
I could have added, on average, seven years to the lives
of those people that I did life expectancies on.
And I know, because in the tail end of my career,
I started manipulating the model.
What if I fixed the D3?
What if I deleted the anemia?
What if I fixed the congestive heart failure?
What if I went back and fixed the misdiagnosis
of rheumatoid arthritis?
What if this person knew that they actually
didn't have hypothyroid?
They just had a methylation issue in their gut and they could take these supplements and
they could get off thyroid medication.
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That's it.
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I looked at how medications would impact other causes of mortality, like statins impacting
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communicate and exchange with their outside environment, making people sicker.
I looked at the real research because we had to make decisions based on valid research.
Right? We couldn't just put something into the model because we thought it was cool.
We would actually look at real peer-reviewed research and extrapolate that with mortality data and come up with a real number.
And it's astounding to me the paucity of understanding of the human physiology in the medical community.
You know, we study chemicals and synthetics and pharmaceuticals,
but we barely study human beings.
We've lost so much faith in humanity and mankind
and the ability of this to heal this.
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the power of frequency and mood and emotion
on healing ourselves.
We're also starting to understand the importance
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itself.
Sunlight, vitamin D3 grounding whole foods.
People argue about keto or paleo or vegan or vegetarian.
None of that is really as important as the quality of the food source that you're eating.
It's not a carnivore diet or a keto diet or paleo diet or a vegan diet or a vegetarian
diet.
It's the caliber of the food source.
It's the distance from the soil to the table.
You know, I was censored a few months ago
for talking about the massive negative impact of seed oils.
It's not necessarily the seed oil itself,
that's harmful, it's the industrial processing of seed oils
that's harmful.
You know, we know now that no amount of fluoride
in our water is safe.
You know, we have to be filtering fluoride
and chlorine out of our water at a minimum.
No amount of seed oils are safe.
We blame cholesterol for crimes.
It doesn't commit because polyunsaturated fatty acids cause oxidation in cholesterol that
causes it to be caustic.
Cholesterol is basically harmless.
You don't even absorb cholesterol from your diet.
Right, right.
To your intestine.
Obviously eat a lot of eggs.
It's on a big. Yeah, me too. Grass-fed meat. I're interested. Obviously eat a lot of eggs. I ate a ton of eggs. Yeah, me too. I eat grass-fed meat. I eat
eggs. I mean, pastorace chickens. I mean, you know,
pastorace free range eggs. I eat all the things you're not
supposed to eat. I assume some. Do you like fruit? Are you
into fruit? I eat fruits that end in berry. So, blueberry,
blackberry, raspberry, strawberry, mainly. I don't blend fruits
because you're quadruple. Look like a seamack profile. I mean,
the difference between a banana that you eat and a banana you put in the blender
is night and day.
What?
Four times the rate of blood sugar increase.
By putting a banana in a blender?
Putting any fruit in a blender.
Why?
Because you, first of all, you disperse the fiber that's in the fruit.
So if you take a banana and you puree it and then you mix it with milk or not milk or something
like that.
You're basically quadrupling its impact on blood sugar.
The glycemic ineptic, which is the rate at which blood sugar rises.
And the truth is blood sugar is the root of all evil.
Really is.
I mean, the Bible should say blood sugar is the root of all evil, not the love of money.
That's a joke.
I have to say a joke.
Don't worry.
We're getting canceled for five other things already.
Yeah.
We've talked about religion, the vaccine.
All we got to do is hit politics.
They won't even be on it, exactly.
That's what we did.
That's what we did.
What podcast?
They won't go be there.
But, um, you know, you don't have to hire me for a job.
You know, we know Alzheimer's, for example, we would, we, you know, when I was in the, in
the insurance industry, and we, we would see early onset Alzheimer's patients,
not once, in 22 years, did I see an early onset Alzheimer's or a demented patient for that
matter that did not have 10 years of elevated blood sugar prior to?
And now, there's a lot of clinical studies.
You can get them at the National Library of Medicine, National Institute of Health and
PubMed and other big places where you can search journal articles.
We're calling Alzheimer's type 3 three diabetes insulin resistance in the brain.
You know, the big lie about Alzheimer's is that people are losing their memory.
That's actually not true.
They're losing access to their memory.
And access can be restored.
Not a blood flow.
Hypoxia.
I mean, if you look at the neural entanglement in Alzheimer's, we used to say, well, this
is all related to amyloid plaques, but we haven't.
We've actually seen, you know, brains where ent, this is all related to amyloid plaques, but we haven't, we've actually seen, you know,
brains where in tangolence and animal,
these amyloid plaques are significantly more progressive
than patients that have Alzheimer's
and they have no exacerbation of the disease.
It has to do with blood flow.
It has to do with the way the brain communicates
with other hemispheres, the brain.
When people have a lot of these neuropathic conditions
like Alzheimer's, they'll have periods
where they do something called sputter, right? If you've ever had them as fortunate of having a loved one that
has Alzheimer's, they'll all of a sudden have this recall of an incident with such such a level of clarity.
Wait a second, that was my fifth birthday. You remember the birthday cake, the color of the
balloons, who was there, you recognized me. So that proves that the memory is not gone. The access
to the memory is gone. When we start to reduce blood flow in the body,
this is why I say the presence of oxygen
is the absence of disease.
We get the expression of disease that is not that disease.
So for example, if I put a tourniquet around your calf
and I restricted the blood flow to your foot,
pretty soon you would have to have some serious neurological signs.
You'd have tingling numbness, eventually pain,
it would go completely numb. You'd have tingling numbness, eventually pain, it would go completely numb.
You'd have burning itching. You'd have all of these
neurological sensations, and I would say you have peripheral neuropathy.
You don't have peripheral neuropathy. You have a decrease in blood flow
that's causing you to have peripheral neuropathy symptoms.
This happens in thyroid. Very few
physicians that I'm aware of even realize that the thyroid only makes
we diagnose people with hypothyroid because they're low on T3, very often.
But the thyroid only makes 20% of the T3 in our bloodstream.
So when T3 is low and we call it hypo thyroid, there's an 80% chance it's something else,
because the other 80% of the thyroid hormone is methylated in the gut.
We actually convert T4 into T3 in the gut.
So if you don't know if you have a gene mutation that impairs that conversion, then you spend
a whole lifetime on thyroid medication for a condition that you don't have.
We hold organs in the human body responsible for crimes they don't commit all the time.
This is why we have the definition called idiopathic, meaning of unknown origin.
Because I say your thyroid is low, but there's nothing wrong with your thyroid, I'm still
going to medicate the thyroid.
Your blood pressure is high, but there's nothing wrong with your heart, I'm still going
to medicate the heart.
You know, and we do this over and over again because we don't go down into the roots below
the soil and we say, what nutrients could be missing from this person's body that could
be causing this condition to exist?
You know, right before we got on this podcast, I told you if you had something go wrong in that tree
that's outside that window,
and you called an arborist, a botanist over here.
They wouldn't touch the leaves or the trunk.
The first thing they would do is court test the soil.
And they'd say, hey, that soil's deficient in nitrogen.
Then they'd add nitrogen to the soil and the leaf would heal.
But we don't think about human beings this way.
We go straight to pathology, disease, chemicals,
pharmaceuticals, synthetics.
And the truth is that optimal health will never be found in a laboratory.
We found on Mother Earth by what God has surrounded us by, and the more we get back to the basics,
whole foods, sunlight, grounding, breathwork, exercise, challenging the body, not seeking
aggressive comfort aggressively, the happier, healthier, and the longer we're going to live.
So then, why are you selling exactly?
I sell a gene test.
Okay, so I'm going to say, because everything you're saying, people don't have to be spending
a lot of money.
Right.
You know, the only reason why I don't talk about what I sell on podcasts is because then
I get attacked and they're like, everything has an angle, he's just trying to sell a blood
test and just trying to sell a gene test.
I hope you do get a blood test in a gene test.
Most people know more about their businesses than they know about their bodies.
I mean, I meet with a lot of entrepreneurs and they'll tell me their income statement,
their balance sheet, their P&L, but they know nothing about their blood sugar.
They don't know what vitamins they should be taking.
They have no idea what's going on in their genes.
And it's astounding to me that this is the temple that's going to take you where you want
to go.
And we don't spend any time getting information on it.
So I think the problem I think is a little bit
even different now.
I think the problem is there's too much information
and people are now are confused.
I think it's not a lack of information.
I think it's an abundance of information.
I'll tell you what you need.
You need to do a gene test and you need to look
at five major genes of methylation.
OK, this is a test you do once in your lifetime. You'll never repeat this test. Yep. Okay, it's called the genetic methylation
test or genetic methylation profile. Once you have that information, you'll never guess again on
what you need to supplement with. You'll be supplementing for deficiency, not the sake of
supplementing. And then where do we get so like, then do you sell the supplements? I also design
my own supplements. It took me two and a half years
to design a supplement to fix these genetic breaks.
So I make multi vitamins,
they're specific to these chain breaks.
To gene breaks.
So like, because I want to explain,
so you were just basically,
you started this company, wellness company,
with your wife, say, chalose,
and it was obviously like,
you're getting a lot of traction
because people were seeing a lot of results, right?
And then like how long was it going on for like it's been you left the yeah, it was five years five years
So five years you were kind of just trekking along doing a lot of your thing in my business
I mean we actually sold our primary residence to make payroll and build out this office and you know in higher
PAs and physicians because again, I'm not licensed medicine. And then I train them on the blood testing.
I believe there's 74 biomarkers we need to look at
in the blood and five genetic markers
we need to look at in the body.
That's where you start.
74 biomarkers, you look at glycemic control,
how well you're controlling your blood sugar,
your hormone balance, and your nutrient deficiencies.
You need to know those things.
You have to know those things so that you can address them.
They're very simple, easy things to address, but they're catastrophic if they go unchecked.
This is amazing.
And so I watched what happens when people have no idea what's going on with their blood sugar.
They'd have no idea what nutrient-intefictions they have, and they don't know what's going on with
their hormones. So those three things are a must. And then you get a genetic test that you do
once in your lifetime, and you should do it on your kids as soon as they Contune swallow because so goes purity so goes the adult so if we can get kids in their prepubescent years
There's a much more significant chance that they don't have any of these ailments when they get when they get older
Really so I've an eight year old and a 10 year old. Oh, that's a great time to do it
They're both prepubescent so then you get I would give them a genetic you do a cheek swab
I mean you have a different child around the house if your child has this empty
HFR gene mutation
It is a full contact support to get them in the car to go school tomorrow
If you're feeding them anything with folic acid which by the way is an entirely man-made chemical
You can't find folic acid anywhere on the surface of the earth even though in the United States
We spray our entire grain supply all all pasta, all white flour, all white rice, all breads, all cereals of any kind, grains of any kind, we spray it with folic acid,
a man-made chemical. And we call it fortified or enriched. When you feed 44% of the children,
fortified or enriched foods, they go nuts, right? So if you give them pop,
tar, it's white bagels, cereals, things like this in the mornings, but this is, you know,
the standard American diet.
It's high in the food pyramid.
I know.
And you feed these kids this stuff for school.
First of all, it's a full contact support
to get them in the cardigan school in the morning.
And then as soon as they get to school,
the call comes home from the teacher
and they're like, little Johnny's not paying attention.
He's disrupting, he doesn't follow directions.
It's none of those things.
Folic acid can be like cocaine for six year olds.
It makes their mind race.
It's like that's the last time I've cared about.
Yeah, that's right.
I was doing cocaine when I was six.
Yeah.
But they were rattled, that's kidding.
It just makes their mind race.
And then modern medicine says, well, if the mind is racing,
then let's pump an infetamine into the body
to race the central nervous system
to match the pace of the mind.
Which is a terrible idea, because eventually this causes
something called tachyphylaxis, which is the medical term for
desensitization. It burns these receptors out. It can actually permanently
changed the neuroplasticity of the brain. If you look at the study that actually
just came out on antidepressants, the long-term use of antidepressants and the
skyrocketing risk of suicide and the skyrocketing risk of prolonged and
permanent depression, you would realize that we're going down the wrong route of mental illness and we should
be talking about mental fitness, exercise, and clean whole foods, and the supplementation
for deficiency can change the trajectory of people's lives, right?
Listen, you're preaching to the conversion of what I do.
I mean, I could not agree with you more.
And I mean, I feed my kids every day for breakfast eggs,
you know, because of that reason.
Whole eggs, your body will absorb zero of that cholesterol.
Whole eggs.
And then, but I'm gonna, I also, because I have to be,
I, you know, I don't want to be a total devil.
I do give them a piece of whole wheat bread,
because I have to eat some kind of carbohydrate and fruit.
It's the 80-20 rule.
I'm trying, you know, to give like eight in a man.
Fruit and an in berry.
I try to have them eat the fruits. But I give them a banana, I don't I'm trying, you know, to get fruits in an Embarry. I have their eat the fruits.
But I give them a banana, I don't blend the fruit.
You know, banana, I, this blend, by the way,
I'm listening to this podcast, I'm not joking.
You are, I've gotten, so I'm like literally
have so many notes that I'm taking
that I haven't, I haven't even asked you the questions I have
because.
Well, let's go through.
I mean, this, so I have so many.
And like you're like giving me so much amazing information
that I think I've never heard about putting a banana
in a blender or whatever,
whenever you put a fruit in the blender,
the glycemic load is four times higher.
No question.
I've never, but it makes sense
because you are mixing it with the milk and the this.
People think they're doing themselves a big service
by having these smoothies and shakes every morning. Terrible.
But it's the worst possible...
Skyrocketing or blotcher.
And it's the rate at blotcher, which blotcher rises that's very dangerous, right?
I mean, because remember when glucose, sky, spike in blood, insulin spikes, so it's the rate of that spike.
But they think, oh, I'm putting college and powder and protein powder, and so it must be good.
Like, that's the whole myth around it.
Again, it's the further we get away from the natural state of the food.
Right.
So, you know, do you think that we used to pick bananas and berries and then we put them
in the blender and then drink them?
No, we would actually eat them right off the tree or we'd wash them and eat them.
So why not a peach?
She has it just too high in sugar.
Yeah, I mean, fruits that don't end sugar. Yeah, fruits that don't end in berry
are very high on the glycemic end.
So I'm not saying you can't eat them.
I'm just saying, if you are eating a lot of fruits,
it's better to eat fruits that end in berry.
Most people like strawberries, blueberries,
blackberries, raspberries.
I mean, there's plenty of fruits there that end in berry.
And they're lower on the glycemic end.
How about a cherry?
Sounds similar.
Cherry, blackberry.
A cherry is a very hot.
I love cherry.
I know it's super high in sugar.
But what about stuff like for hormones, right?
Are you a believer in hormone replacement like testosterone?
Because that's also a rage.
Everyone I feel over the age of 35 is now increasing.
They're all on testosterone.
But the truth is that 70% of the people that are on the hormone therapy don't need hormone
therapy. They need nutrients to supply their body with hormones. So for example,
I want it because you look good. I'll thank you. You're welcome. I do. I take testosterone.
I'm 53 years old and I have something called primary hypogonadism. So initially I tried to
put pressure on the testicles to stimulate the testicles to raise the level of testosterone. So
for example, when you look at a blood test, just like every organ system in the body,
just about every organ that secretes a hormone has a boss. So in the case of testosterone and
a male, it's the pituitary. The pituitary is the boss of the testicle. Testicle does not decide
how much testosterone it secretes. The pituitary does. It's just like if you walk into a room and
you can't hear the music because it's not loud enough.
You don't go over and mess with the speaker, you go to the tuner and you turn the signal up.
So in this case, you can go to the bituitary.
And the bituitary secretes two hormones.
It creates something called luteinizing hormone, which stimulates luteal cells to create testosterone.
And something called follicle stimulating hormone, which stimulates follicular cells to create sperm.
So if you want to raise the level of testosterone, you can mimic this hormonal pathway,
HCG, gonadarelline, there are peptides
that mimic this hormonal pathway
and raise the level of testosterone naturally.
So you're high on your own supply.
So is that like, is that like a peptide,
like CP1295?
CJC1295?
Yeah, that one.
So CJC1295 is a class of peptides
that are growth hormone-releasing peptides. Oh, okay. So there's two of peptides that are growth hormone releasing peptides.
Okay.
So there's two of these.
There's growth hormone releasing hormones and growth hormone releasing peptides.
If you want to raise your natural pulse of growth hormone, because growth hormone and
a human being is pulsatile.
Okay.
So if you don't want to take growth hormone from outside the body and put it in, which
I am not a big fan of, because you do what's called upstream regulate, right?
You have the growth hormone level rises in the bloodstream, tells the pituitary, there's
enough growth hormone, tells the hypothalamus, there's enough growth hormone, tells the brain,
there's enough growth hormone.
That's not the standard chain of command, right?
There's a captain, a first mate, a second mate.
It goes brain, hypothalamus, pituitary, growth hormone.
You want to obey that command hierarchy.
So when you use a peptide, all right, and growth hormone peptide, there's basically two classes. There's one called a growth hormone
releasing hormone, one called a growth hormone releasing peptide. So if you use CJC 1295,
you want to use another peptide called hypermoralin. You want to use those two in conjunction or
surmoralin and hypermoralin. And this way, if you've recently had a pulse of growth hormone,
and your largest pulse of growth hormone is night at night, right before you go to bed, your largest circadian
pulse.
This is why most growth hormone peptides you take at night, and you can either take them
by injection or sublingually.
Okay.
And what you're trying to do is increase that amplitude by having the pituitary naturally
increase its pulse of growth hormone.
Okay.
I'm a huge fan of peptides.
I mean, I think peptides is the next rage in anti-aging because there's peptides for
healing, there's peptides for anxiety, there's anti-anxiolidic peptides like selenque, there's
healing peptides like BPC157.
Right, we talked about that one.
Do you think they work?
Oh, I know that they work.
I think they're phenomenally effective.
You know, BPC157 is a gastric pentadeca peptide.
It's synthesized from gastric juice.
It's tolerated very well orally.
You can inject it into the site of injury,
or you can take it orally,
and it will find the site of injury.
And basically what it's doing
is enhancing the body's ability to heal itself.
Right?
So if I can increase this signal
from a tissue that's damaged into the bloodstream,
then I can recruit more of the healing power
of the human body,
namely platelets that are bringing growth factors to the site of injury.
I think when we talked before the break, I said, well, if you...
Before the break, this is it.
Before the podcast.
You got me on a science family.
So let's say you step off a curve and you twist your right ankle.
How does the body know to heal the right ankle and not the left ankle?
This is what we were talking about before the podcast.
What happens is when you injure that tissue,
when you have a tear in the tendon,
you injure a special type of cell
called a fibroblastin.
It starts to send a signal into the bloodstream
to say, hey, I'm hurt, I'm hurt, I'm hurt.
And then there's a component in the blood called a platelet.
And this platelet is cruising by,
and the platelet's like a piñata.
But the confetti that's inside is growth factors, right?
So just like a pinata, you want it to burst.
Right.
All the candy to drop out.
You want the platelet to burst and release the growth factors.
So as it cruises by this site of injury, it hears this inflammatory signal and it bursts
and it drops off growth factors.
Now this is a little bit of a simplified approach.
You science nerds don't attack me on this.
It would be happy to go toe to toe.
Right.
But so it drops off growth factors and this starts the healing process.
BPC157 accelerates that process.
It's fantastic for leaky gut, for healing,
you know, the gut from injury,
or from recovering from prolonged antibiotic use,
or recovering from inflammatory conditions,
like urinal bowel syndrome or chronic crones
or ulcerative colitis, you know, very often BPC can be.
Is it good just for like a bad ankle, like, 10 to 9 is?
No question.
I know.
People swear by the BP at 1-5-7.
It's a huge fan of BPC-157.
Okay, let's get back to the testosterone
because I feel like so many people I know,
my friends, girls, too, are on it.
And I'm like, am I like the last of the party?
Like, I'm not on it.
So what they should look at first is,
does their body have the raw material it needs to
produce testosterone?
So if we look at how testosterone's produced in the human body, the deepest that you go
into the roots is vitamin D3.
So first you want to make sure that your vitamin D3 is between 1680 and anagrams per desolate
or then if I move up the tree a little bit, you want to look at something called DHA,
dihydreepin, drosterone.
This is a precursor for hormones.
If you are clinically deficient in D3 and clinically deficient in DHA,
you will be clinically deficient in testosterone.
So the first thing we want to do is give the body the raw material to do its job.
So we give it adequate levels of D3, adequate levels of DHA,
and very often the hormone levels will come back.
And then the second thing you want to look at is you want to look for a specific protein
in the blood called SHBG, sex hormone binding globulin.
It's a fancy way of saying a protein
that binds to sex hormones.
Very often in testosterone deficient men,
especially if they are deficient in free testosterone,
they have this very high levels of this protein, women too.
In fact, this protein is what they use
as a birth control agent. So if you see high SHBG in females very often, it's their birth control, that
crushes their testosterone level, especially their free testosterone.
What is this free test? What's the difference? So testosterone, your total testosterone
is the total amount of testosterone is produced by the body. And free? The free testosterone
is the amount of unbound testosterone
that is bioavailable for the body to use.
That's really the number that matters,
because it's what's bioavailable to be used
in all of the transactions in the body.
I mean, a guy that's walking around
with a testosterone of 1,000,
but a free testosterone,
we can use numbers after a second,
but a free testosterone of seven
is not gonna feel nearly as good
as a guy with a level at 400, but his free test Osterone is 18.
Now, do is it as, because I think with men, it's been clear to me that the benefits far
away the negatives, right?
Like, no question.
They're like all like super or energy.
They're more muscular.
They look better.
They have like whatever.
They're libido's up through the roof.
Yeah.
But women, I can, I see more mass sometimes on women.
They don't, I mean, you have worse side effects
with women.
Well, because you don't want to take men or women
to what's called super-physiological levels.
I mean, women's testosterone, you know,
I see women's testosterone in the hundreds, right?
I mean, it's like when...
Is that too much?
Yes, it's too much.
I mean, women's testosterone in the 30s to 60 range,
and they're free testosterone,
which is where their libido is gonna come from.
It's where something called urethra-poesis,
the pressure on the bone marrow to produce red blood cells.
In fact, in 2018, the Journal of American Eurology
issued new guidelines for testosterone therapy.
And if you scroll down to 13, line 13,
you'll see that it says,
guidelines for physicians in the administration
of testosterone therapy, it's line 13.
If you actually read from 13 through numbers 20,
so Google Journal of American Eurology
Space Testosterone, scroll down to line 13.
Yeah, in the Google.
And just read that section.
So they updated all of their clinical guidelines
on hormone therapy.
They just spelled all the myths that testosterone
increases the risk for cardiovascular disease.
In fact, it's the opposite.
They just spelled the myths that testosterone
exacerbates prostate cancer.
They just spelled the myth that increased levels
of testosterone increase the risk
for thrombolytic events, stroke,
heart attacks, what have you.
It does thicken your blood.
So you need to do therapeutic philbotomy,
you know, blood donations. But that's also very, very good for men.
All right. Right. Right. Right. Right. So women too, you have to do that.
Well, if you look at the incidence of cardiovascular disease between men and women,
you'll see that men lead women by a huge margin until women stop menstruating.
And then there's a parabolic hockey stick spike and they begin to approximate men in the
incidence of cardiovascular disease.
The reason for that is that they stop turning their blood over.
Oh, it's right.
Stop menstruating.
Yeah.
Mestration is extraordinarily healthy, right?
And it's also good for men to donate blood, right?
Because something called our hematocrit, our blood viscosity, begins to thicken.
So we measure the blood by the viscosity of the blood, which is called hematocrit by how
closer you to water or how closer you to motor oil.
Okay, so as we approximate motor oil as our hematocryt thickens, then it affects
every organ system in the body. I mean, you could loosely put the body in
you know, organ systems into two categories, pumps and filters. A pump would
much rather pump water than pump oil. So the heart, the vascular system, the filters, the kidney, the liver, would much rather filter water than filter oil.
Right. So if we can keep the blood viscosity low by checking your hematocrit and when it gets high,
doing something called therapeutic philbotomy, actually dumping blood, it's extraordinarily healthy
for you. Your body replaces every one of those
red blood cells with healthy new red blood cells.
Right.
So this is why I say everybody should be doing two things. One, getting their blood
worked on in a minimum every six months, and they should look at blood sugar control, hormone
balance, and nutrient efficiencies. Just start there. If you want to know exactly what
panel I would suggest you pull, and you don't have to pull the panel through me, I'll put
it on my Instagram at Gary Bracka, and you can just take my male panel and take it to
your doctor or the female panel. And then the second thing is you've got to look at these five
genes of methylation. You have to know what your body is able to convert into the usable form
and what it's not. If you start there, you're going to feel a state of normal that you thought
never existed.
People say to me, all the time,
I mean, God, I feel amazing.
I'm like, well, you don't really feel amazing.
You just feel normal.
That's how normal it's supposed to feel.
Okay, so before you move on to testosterone,
what should a woman's, like, what should the number be around?
So, age dependent, it should be between 30 and 60.
And what age group?
So, women between 28 years old and 55 years old. 30 to 60. And what age group? So, it women between 28 years old and 55 years old.
30 to 60.
That is amazing that you said that.
You know why?
There's been a million, mine's like so much less, but like I feel that there's such a rampage,
people are on these pellets.
That's like the biggest thing.
That they're pumping up like people my age, like in their 40s are doing like 200, 300 women.
You have to look at their free testosterone number one.
And then secondly, you want to look at the level of free testosterone.
So into control free testosterone number one, I need to have low S H B G. And then secondly,
to stimulate the production of testosterone before you start to take any hormone from
outside the body and put it in. Because when I take something exogenously from outside the body and put it in, I'm potentially creating a dependency, right?
It can shut off my own endogenous production. This is why I'm a huge fan of peptides. They usually have you
high on your own supply. They usually have...
But why you want testosterone then? Because of your issue.
I have what's called primary hypogonadist, which meant that I used a luteinizing hormone
my medic called HCG to try to raise my testosterone level.
It didn't work.
So I replaced my hormone, right?
But we go to replacement so fast, but I'm also 53 years old.
There's a lot of guys that are, thank you.
There's a lot of guys that are doing this in their 20s.
In the 30s.
Yeah, I know, I know.
I know.
Creating permanent dependencies. Crazy, I know.
I also sit on the board of the NFL Alumni Association,
Athletic, one of their health services directors.
So I see what happens when people prolong potentially
abuse exogenous hormones and growth hormones
and other things that shut down their body's production.
So first thing we want to do is find out
if the body has the raw materials to do its job.
D3, DHA, SHBG out of the way so that we can allow these hormone levels to return
to normal.
Because the issue with hormones and the little known fact about testosterone is one of its
primary roles is not male characteristics.
One of the primary roles of testosterone is something called urythro-poesis, which is
the production of new red blood cells.
So as your testosterone drops, the pressure on the bone marrow to make new red blood
cells drops.
So your red blood cell count and hemoglobin level drops.
What does that mean?
Just think of the, you know, red blood cell is a tennis ball and hemoglobin is the fluid
that's inside that tennis ball.
It's actually inside that fluid that oxygen is bound.
So there's a normal range for red blood cells, right?
So if you're in the bottom 10, 15% of that range, okay, you're low on red blood cells,
but you're normal, okay, you're going to be low on blood oxygen.
Then you look at your hemoglobin and there's a range for hemoglobin.
Let's say you're in the bottom 10, 15% of hemoglobin.
Well, you're not anemic, but you're exhausted all the time.
Your doctor says your blood works normal.
Right.
Right.
And this is the problem.
So you go get your blood worked on,
the doctor says there's nothing wrong with you.
Your red blood cells normal, your hemoglobin's normal.
You know, get stressed out of your life,
get some more sleep, you know, drink more water.
The truth is, that's not normal.
It's certainly not optimal.
You know, we want to be in the upper range for red blood cells, the upper range for hemoglobin.
How does this happen? You go to the factory that makes red blood cells, which is the bone
marrow, and you go to the bone marrow's boss, which is the hormone testosterone. If you are
clinically deficient in testosterone, you will be low on red blood cell in hemoglobin,
and you will be tired all the time. And not only will you be tired during the day,
but you won't be able to sleep at night.
And this is one of the hardest questions that is hard for physicians to answer when you
say, why is it that people that are the most exhausted sleep the worst?
Because you would think that somebody that's exhausted with the one thing they would do
is sleep, is because they're both related to blood oxygen, right?
So if I reduce the amount of oxygen in your blood, you're gonna be tired.
But now when you lay down to go to sleep at night,
and your respiratory rate starts to fall,
and the blood oxygen level in your blood begins to drop,
has that blood oxygen level
gets to a critical level, your brain,
which is monitoring your blood oxygen panics,
and it wakes you up.
How does it wake you up?
It pulses cortisol.
So you look like a bouncing rubber ball going down a hallway,
right? Your brain does not allow you to get into deep sleep, right? It pulls
you out of deep sleep to raise the oxygen level in your blood. So if you fix the hormones,
you can very often fix the blood oxygen level, you fix the energy and the sleep. That's
why it's so important to get blood. It's so important. Okay, what about fasting?
So you know, fasting is like anything else, like keto or anything else.
It's not for everybody.
Right.
I don't like it.
I like to eat breakfast.
Am I a horrible person for it?
No, not at all.
So you don't like it.
No, you would be, you know, if you like to eat three meals a day, that's fine.
It's people that have blood sugar control issues should be doing fasting.
But people that have very reactive blood sugar should not
be intermittent fasting. In fact, some of the worst endocrine disasters I've ever seen in young
females are young females with a very tight feeding window. If you really want to jack your metabolism
up, narrow your feeding window if you have good blood sugar regulation because let's not forget.
What do you mean to get it again? So if you want to increase your metabolism,
or increase your...
So when, so there's three things that,
you know, we should look at it.
In terms of how well you look at,
we regulate your blood sugar.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, there's something on glucose,
which is the amount of sugar in your blood
at the moment your blood was taken.
There's something called hemoglobin A1C.
It's a fancy way of saying the three-month
average of your blood sugar.
And then we look at insulin.
How much insulin it takes to regulate that.
So if your hemoglobin A1c is low.
But you don't know if it is.
No one can let you get it.
Well, this is why you need to test your blood.
This is why everything's not for everybody.
100% and that's why it's so important.
Like that's where you're like the people,
you're trying to be as like specific as possible
with the, is being and being generic,
like just for to help everyone, you can't be tired though,
because everyone's, like the numbers are different.
Exactly, like you need information about yourself
to make decisions on how you should eat
and whether or not you should intermittent fast.
So for example, if you have,
yeah, where you're gonna say
about the figure or all the,
if your average blood sugar is very low,
so if your hemoglobin A1C is between 4.8 and 5.1,
even 5.2, you should not be intermittent fasting.
Because this means that your average blood sugar is very low.
Okay, so when you fast, it will get even lower.
The pituitary, which is the master regulator in the body,
it's regulating your hormones, your menstrual cycle,
if you're female, it's regulating your body temperature,
your metabolism.
The pituitary perceives prolonged periods
of low blood sugar as starvation.
So it starts to throttle back your metabolism, right?
It also can make females, what's called monophasic,
it can are a phasic, it can actually throw
their menstrual cycle out of phase.
So as they transition from follicular to luteal to ovulation phases, the one hormone enters
that phase before the other one, estrogen leads progesterone.
And now you've got a wicked temper, you've got emotional control issues, you've got weight
gain, you've got water retention, you start to become estrogen dominant, you start to put
a little band of water, actually.
It's water retention in the interstitial space,
the space between cells below your belly button.
And you think you're doing everything right.
You know, so I have women that I see all the time,
they're like, Gary, I don't get it.
I wake up in the morning, I'm fasted.
I have a couple black coffee.
I go to orange dairy.
I go hammer down for 55 minutes.
I do that five days a week.
I've been doing that for three months.
I haven't lost a single pound.
Like, what is going on?
I'm not even eating.
I go, well, you're not eating, but your body is.
It's just eating you.
Yeah.
So intermittent fasting, like keto, like any other diet,
is not for everybody, right?
And the people with poor blood sugar control,
obesity, hyperinsulinemia, you know, high insulin,
elevated blood sugar, we're prolonged period of time.
Intermittent investing can be the best thing
that ever happened to them.
But especially when women tighten their feeding window.
So women eat in a four hour, six hour, even in eight hour
window, if they have very aggressive blood sugar control,
they will send their hormones into a tail spin
and they will begin to slow their metabolism down.
It will have exact opposite effect of what they're after.
That's why I always say people need information
and you need information on yourself.
Don't get your information, even from your doctor,
your girlfriend, your neighbor, your trainer.
Get it from your blood and your own genes
because it will be a fact pattern.
I always like to say, you know what's not in your blood
is somebody else's opinion, right?
That's a good one, actually. And that's why I like to like, you know what's not in your blood is somebody else's opinion, right? That's a good one, actually.
And that's why I like to, I love the blood work.
And like I said, I'll give you the male and the female panel that I pull on clients.
You look at that panel, it's not paralysis of analysis.
You look at blood sugar control, nutrient deficiencies, and hormone balance.
And that's where you start.
And you get a road map.
You get to understand your body.
You look at the five major genes of methylation,
you start supplementing for those genes of methylation,
it is astounding what will happen to your body
when you just change the two things,
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I went and got my blood work panel.
Like it was insane how much blood was taken.
I like, and I spent hours on it with the phone,
with this really renowned person.
And I eat eggs every day, the phone, with this really renowned person.
And I eat eggs every day, right?
And for like 25 years.
The same my whole thing is like routine habits, hacking, blah, blah, blah.
And so I eat eggs every single day, from almost my whole adult life.
And he says, no, well, you're allergic to eggs.
That's why you're having all these other allergic reactions.
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basic physiology
nutrient deficiencies blood sugar control what is my body deficient in we should always start there and put the raw materials back into the body that it needs to do its job and then get out of its way and you will see
either the expression of optimal health or you will see the expression of other conditions
and you can continue to go down the rabbit hole.
A lot of times, I mean, if you get a 23 in me,
you're gonna get paralysis of analysis
with that much gene information.
That's a great question for me.
You know, you're gonna know that you have to touch
to your lows and you have green eyes,
you have all the skin, you have dark hair
and you have a propensity for hypertension,
but there's nothing you can do with the majority
of that information.
You want actionable information.
The challenge.
I need actionable.
What can change?
But then why is it though the allergy part?
Could we be everyone now, like you're saying, I'm a gluten, I'm a...
In my opinion, most allergy testing is very 1998 science, unless it's mediator release
testing or some other type of testing, which...
So in most allergy tests, what we do is we take your blood, we wash it down a membrane.
Okay, see, we wash your blood down one side and we wash an allergen down the other side,
blueberries, wheat, corn, soy, dairy, whatever it is.
We wash it down the other side and we look at the level of inflammation.
In other words, how pissed off does the blood get jumping across that membrane?
So how much inflammation does it cost?
And you measure that between a one and a ten.
Okay, so if it's a one to three,
that's a mild allergy.
If it's a three to six, that's a moderate allergy.
If it's a six to 10, that's a severe allergy.
And we say eliminate those foods.
The challenge with most allergy testing
is it does not take into account
your already inflamed state.
So in other words, what if you're already at a six
and you test something, it shows up as a two in
your blood, but on the test, it shows an eight. In other words, let's say I have two people
standing side by side and I go, okay, I'm going to press in on each of your backs and you
tell me how much pain you feel. I'm going to push in with a pressure of two. So I push
in on the first person's back and they go, yeah, I barely felt that. And I push in on
the second person's back with the same pressure
and they go through the roof.
They record a pain level of 10
because they had a pinched nerve.
So they were already at an eight.
So do you see that pressure of two in one person
wasn't felt, the pressure of two in somebody else
recorded as a 10, okay?
It wasn't the actual pressure that caused the reading of 10.
It was their existing state being at an 8.
So it makes sense.
Yeah, it does make sense.
So when you have inflammatory factors in the blood,
certain cytokines and things like homocysteine,
which is what I was talking about,
you're already in an inflamed state.
So you're going into the test, let's say, at a 6.
So things that just show up as minor allergens
jump off of this test and then they bring this allergy test into me and they're like, I'm allergic to wheat, soy, dairy, corn off of this test, and then they bring this allergy test
into me, and they're like, I'm allergic to wheat, soy, tari corn, blueberries, bananas,
and gluten.
And I go, whoa, slow down.
Right.
The very surprised, if you actually had this entire myriad of injuries, I mean, not of
allergies, not injuries.
Allergies.
And so, first, we want to look at, got motility.
Right?
Is the conveyor belt moving at the right pace? Because if the conveyor belt's not moving at the right pace,
you will chase allergies for the balance of your lifetime.
And this is what happens to most people.
They go, I don't get it.
You know, I eat the same thing Monday morning
and the same thing Wednesday afternoon
and I have two completely different reactions.
Sometimes I can eat corn and I blow up like a tick
and sometimes I eat corn and I don't have any reaction.
Okay, right there, I know you're not allergic to corn, right?
Allergies are not transient, they are consistent.
So if you were allergic to eggs, you would have a reaction every time you ate eggs.
Maybe I do, maybe that's why I wouldn't-
Maybe I'm bloated because of eggs.
I don't even know.
Well, you won't bloated to me, but-
I don't, well, I feel it, but thank you.
Okay.
I was- thank you.
So, you know, it's important too that we get back to basic physiology.
If the intestinal motility is off, your allergy test is going to be off because contents
are going to putrify in the intestine.
Yeah.
And we're not going to pass things properly along the sequence of events in the intestine.
If we remove too much water constipation, if we add too much water, you know, diarrhea.
And so we get all of this myriad of symptoms.
And then we put it in a bucket where we just give it a name like irritable bowel syndrome,
which is not really a thing.
It's just a name for a bunch of symptoms.
And we don't have a way of treating it.
And so we wander around trying all of these diets
and yes, very often going carnival
can cure all kinds of challenges you're having in the body.
But even on carnival,
you want to make sure that you're your intestinal motilities.
Correct.
So I'm curious, what's your slush?
Or keto or vegan?
Or whatever it is, right?
Two questions I'm left with.
Poor stage.
You've been sitting so patiently and so kind, same with you, Ed.
I know this is like godly going on forever, but two other questions.
Well, the first one's going to be about all your habits, what you do from what time
you wake up, what you're nothing.
But before I even get into that, I wanted to really ask you like, I've noticed
I had no clue who you were until very recently. I would say within a year or so, carry case
in as a very close friend of mine. She's talked, she's actually talked about you before. But
you know, but it was like kind of like chirping in my head. But then all of a sudden, I saw
you everywhere. Now, is it because you got involved with this 10X?
Now it's 10X, like, because you said you had this business, you started to kind of get
a lot of recognition because of the results you had, then what happened?
Like, was it, what was the kind of the evolution of how people started to really know about
your information and understand, like, kind of, how did people,
how did people on a grandiose more bigger scale
know about what you're doing, I guess is my question.
Well, I think, you know, in the fifth year of our business,
we started training a patient named Grant Cardone.
Oh, so it was a grant or is it Dana, white?
Well, we met Dana after grant.
Carrie Kase, I'm introduced me to Dana White.
Dana had done so many things for her and she was like, I don't know how I'm going to
repay Dana.
So I'm going to introduce you to Dana because he needs you.
And Dana, when I first met him, had no interest in talking to me about his blood work
hurts gene tests.
All he wanted to know was how many more months he had left on Earth.
Why?
Because he read the same thing I did?
Because he sick that way.
He'll tell you.
I'm just sick in the head.
I just wanted to know how long I had left to live.
And he was so curious about it.
So by the way, can you still do that?
Can you tell me how long I'm going to work?
I mean, I could, but I don't do that anymore.
I left that industry seven years ago.
You could still do it.
I could still do it.
Yeah, I'd have to go back into a mortality database
and have access to that information.
But I could still do the problem.
Is still a lot of time. Did you tell it to him?
I did.
He's the only one that I've done since I left that industry.
I've done one person that was day-to-day.
Why did you do him?
Because I knew that would be the access to me getting
hold of his blood work and his gene test.
Oh, got it.
And so I told him those two things were a requirement
for me to predict his life expectancy,
which in reality they weren't.
And I got in 10 years of medical records on him
and some demographic data.
I could have modeled
his life expectancy.
But I could look at Dana.
I mean, the first day that I met him,
he was actually very sick the first day I met him.
And I said, would you like me to come over there
and knock that out of you in 45 minutes?
And he was sniffling and like really stuffed up.
And you know Dana, he's very straightforward.
He goes, yeah pal.
Come over here and knock it out of me in 45 minutes.
He's being very sarcastic and I said,
no, Dana, I'm serious, I'll come over there
in 45 minutes, I'll knock that out of you.
And I brought a nurse with me,
again, I'm not licensed to practice medicine.
I brought something called a hypermax,
which is 900 liters of oxygen and a mask.
That's a superhuman protocol.
Yeah, from the superhuman protocol.
Yeah.
I actually called the venti medical.
I'll never forget this.
I called my buddy Jason at the venti medical, the CEO of the venti, and I said, listen, I'm
going to see Dana White.
There's got to be a hypermax within five miles of the UFC Apex.
And he was like, let me make some phone calls.
And he called around and he actually found a doctor that had a hypermax in his clinic.
And I was like, I'll pay him 500 bucks to bring it to the UFC right now.
And to the performance center.
First time I met Dana.
And so this car pulls up with, you know, it's a 900 liter bag of oxygen.
It's like six feet tall.
So I dragged this thing into the UFC.
Through the lobby, onto the elevator, they thought I was out of my freaking mind and it
had an oxygen mask.
I had a nurse with me.
You know, there was a licensed Nevada.
And I dragged in this 900 liter bag of oxygen,
Dana's sitting there, he sniffled in his eyes,
her swollen shut, he's super stuffy,
his throat's super scratchy.
And I ran a specific vitamin cocktail on him
with high doses of vitamin C and karnacine and some other things.
The nurse starts to sigh V. And at the same time, I put this oxygen mask on him. with high doses of vitamin C and karnacine and some other things.
The nurse starts this IV, and at the same time,
I put this oxygen mask on him.
It's about 93, 95% O2.
And I had him breathe down all 900 liters of that oxygen,
the nurse ran the IV, and he takes this mask off,
and he looks at me, and he goes,
exactly where it's, he goes, no fucking way.
And I go, what?
He's like, is there any way I could feel this good that fast?
He's like, I'm not stuffing anymore at all.
I'm like, he's like, I feel freaking great.
And he was like, started jumping around his office.
And he was out of his mind.
He was like, that was crazy, man.
I said, well, all it was was vitamins, minerals, amino acids,
and oxygen.
And so then I convinced them to get the blood work
and the gene test done. And that then I convinced them to get the blood work
and the gene test on.
And that's when things really took a crazy turn
because we got a call at one o'clock in the morning
from the lab saying that we had a life threatening
alert on a patient and it was day-to-night.
What was it?
What was it?
It was this triglyceride level, almost at 800.
And so he had something called hyperinsulinemia.
He had elevated insulin.
He was almost diabetic.
He was pre-diabetic.
Again, all of this public information, Dana and I,
we've done a podcast with his medical records.
I would never talk about a patient on a podcast like this.
But not a patient, a client.
But he had hyperinsulinemia.
He had elevated blood sugar.
He was hyper-tripleasuride.
He made his triglycerides were nearly 800.
His thyroid was a mess.
He had one of the highest levels of homocysteine
I'd ever had.
There was no wonder he had hypertension.
You know, all of these different conditions,
you know, his kidney filtration rate
was actually an early stage kidney failure.
His blood urination creatinine really elevated.
I mean, it was just, everything was a total mess.
And I said, look, if you just do what I tell you to do
for 10 weeks, you're gonna be completely different person.
But if not, right now you have 10.4 years to live.
You gave him that a number, 10.4.
10.4 years.
So if you assume that none of those issues change,
when you do a mortality prediction,
you assume that none of those are gonna change, right?
He didn't change the trite glycerides,
he didn't treat the hyperinsulinemia,
which was on his way to type two diabetes. He didn't treat the hypertension,
you know, better than it was being treated. So now you have metabolic syndrome. Basically,
you have high blood pressure, you have high blood sugar, and you have high body fat around your
middle. I mean, this is a really bad sign. It's called metabolic syndrome. And you don't actually
have to be obese to have metabolic syndrome. I mean, very young adults are getting metabolic syndrome,
and we can catch it early and change the trajectory of their life. Modern medicine waits for it to
exacerbate itself and show up as type 2 diabetes or as severe hypertension or as morbid obesity.
But in any case, he had all three of these conditions for metabolic syndrome. His adrenals were shot.
And so I told him, I said, if you don't turn this around, you know, you've got
10.4 years to live. But if you give me 10 weeks, give my clinical team 10 weeks because art
physicians are the one that are the real geniuses behind the scenes, I'll completely change
your life. And we brought his homocysteine down, his blood pressure started to normalize.
We fixed the thyroid by fixing the methylation in the gut, so his T3 levels started to rise,
his thyroid normalized. I put him on a prescription ketogenic diet. I don't do that with everybody. I
call it a prescription ketogenic diet because I wrote a diet right down to his grocery list. So for
10 weeks, we did what's called a ketogenic reset for 12 weeks. So he intermittent fasted and a
full clean keto. And we put his body into a state of ketosis. He started to metabolize
the triglycerides right out of his bloodstream. It's kind of a hard concept for people to think,
I have high blood fat, so I'm going to go on a high fat diet to bring down my blood fat.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's truly what you want to do. You want to switch the fuel source
to beta hydroxybutyrate and have the triglycerides start to fall. And in 12 weeks, you know,
blood pressure normalized to triglycerides were were 140 from almost 800. He went from
hyperinsulinemic to normal insulin. He went from diabetic to non-diabetic to normal
pathic blood sugar. I mean, it was a phenomenal change and he lost so much weight and got
off a CPAP machine and stopped having these narcoleptic episodes during the day. It just
completely changed his life. So he stuck with it until the end of five months and then when
we looked at his labs at five months,
I mean, his kidneys, his liver, his lungs,
his pancreas, his immune system,
I mean, just everything that strengthened.
So because of that, it just kind of seemed like-
Yeah, between, so Grant Cardone bought our company
in September of 2021 and he bought us for some cash
and some stock.
So we, Sage and I became Grant Cardone's partner
and Brandon Dawson's partner, his and I became Grant Cardone's partner and
Brandon Dawson's partner, his CEO, who's also the CEO of 10X Health. And they are scaling
experts. So they basically took our brain child and said, we're going to put systems in place
to scale this business. And we went from nine employees to 112 employees.
Do you like those clinics everywhere?
Yeah, well, we have mega centers.
So we have one in Aventura.
We have, we actually have two in Aventura.
We have one in Dallas.
We have one in Beverly Hills.
We have one in Arizona.
Do you know where Beverly Hills?
Where?
San Vicente and sixth.
But what do you mean?
Is it an office where people can go in there?
It's a 10x health clinic.
Yeah, and we want to open a thousand of them
around the country.
What's in the clinic?
We're at like therapy bed.
So the PMF, the oxygen, the light,
and you can get your blood work and
your gene test on there. Wait, did you have the superhuman?
We have the sole superhuman protocol. Got it. You have it there. Okay. What else you have
in there? So then we do a lot of joint injections with stem cells and exosomes.
It's just like a meds ball. Yeah. And we do, we also do topical, you know, exosome facial
treatments, exosome hair restorations,
stem cell hair restoration.
Things that think, you know, like a med spa, but the core of what we do is we do a 74
biomarker test in the blood and we do a, we look at the main five with their alleles
eight genes of methylation.
And that I believe is the foundation from decades of reading medical records
and looking at the trajectory of what could you most easily change to completely change the
trajectory of somebody's life, nutrient deficiencies, hormone balance, blood sugar control.
I love that. Now, okay, I gotta go, I gotta go, I got to go at 730, my kids. I cannot believe this.
I love talking to you. Yeah, this food buy. And And I know and I feel bad, my kids probably like starving upstairs.
But I have one fact, in case they ate within like two minutes, what is your daily habits
start?
What do you do?
So my daily habits are really centered around my morning routine.
Never, ever, ever, ever do I ever miss breathwork.
I mean, I will actually miss a commercial flight to not miss breathwork.
So I do eight minutes of breathwork, three rounds of 30 breaths with a breathhold in between.
Like clockwork, that's how I wake up.
I drink hydrogen water.
I actually carry a hydrogen water filtration
to bottle with me.
I supplement for my deficiencies
and I get natural sunlight at first light
every morning that I wake up.
No matter where I am, tomorrow morning,
I'll wake up here with the sun.
I'll be outside on my balcony, I'll do breath work,
and I'll expose my skin to sunlight.
I generally will try to ground every day
get my feet touching the surface of the earth.
Three days a week, I do heavyweight exercise,
the other days of the week, I do basic
steady state cardiovascular exercise.
I do not exercise, not three days heavyweights.
So I try to take each muscle group to failure
What's called the drop set and I try to use heavier weights because we know that muscle is our metabolic currency
Right, and so if we can actually you know, it's it's almost like a retirement account
We actually need to build more muscle than we need today so that by the time we start to get to the years of sarcopenia age related muscle
Wasting we can actually afford the muscle wasting and still be functional because you lose you lose every year for L.T.
Is the greatest risk to longevity.
Absolutely.
So three days of heavy,
why don't you do five days a week?
Because I also don't want to over stress my body.
You know, I don't.
That's what's good about it.
I would have noticed as sequencing
is very important with you,
like in order of things,
and like keeping things so you're not overdoing it,
not underdoing it. Like it's like kind of like the Goldilocks. It's like the perfect amount.
Right? Yeah. Goldilocks, the Pro. It's not your new company.
Obsessive about it too. Right. It's so true. It's so hard though not to become obsessive.
Yeah. It's what I do. It's not who I am. Right. So you know, I don't do it necessarily to look
good taking my shirt off. I do it because this is the recipe for longevity.
Right.
You know, if you want to live a long time, lift every way.
Do you think you could overdo it and do it too much?
Well, like, like, work out too much.
No question.
I mean, a lot of extreme athletes have reduced life expectancy.
We saw a lot of, you know, when we would see really extreme athletes in the mortality
space, almost invariably we would reduce their
life expectancy because of the amount of free radical oxidation that's going on in their
body.
And they're also more prone to cancers later in life and they don't live as long as people
that don't exercise intensely because the stress or high intensity exercise will not
only where the joints out over time, but it produces a lot of free radical
oxidation. And these oxidative species damage tissues. And so I'm not saying that, you know, in your
younger years, if you want to be a Spartan athlete or you want to be a triathlete, I was a triathlete
in 2010. I was the age group champion for the state of Florida. I was a really competitive, not a
professional. I was a amateur, but I was very competitive, but I remember after my last half Iron Man
and then Chesapeake Bay,
I hung my bike up on the wall,
I didn't get on my bike again for three years,
because it was just the amount of intensity
was too much to keep up with.
So we need to make longevity something
that we can do for a long period time.
For a long period time.
So things like grip strength and functional movements
and you know, aero squats and you know,
learning how to dead hang just basic movements that are proven to have a correlation to longevity.
But you don't think doing weights every day is a good idea.
No.
Even if it's, forget about extreme, how about just intermediate, like moderate.
Well, if you're going to do it intermediate or moderate, you're really kind of defeating the purpose.
Right. Right. So the whole idea of doing weights is to tear muscle. intermediate, like moderate. Well, if you're going to do it intermediate or moderate, you're really kind of defeating the purpose.
Right.
Right. So the whole idea of doing weights is to tear muscle.
So if you're going to go into tear muscle, go into tear muscle, don't go into just move
the weight around.
Right?
Or else you're just wasting time.
Yeah.
And so, you know, three days a week, if you do heavy weights, you take each body part completely
to failure.
And I'll start with the heavy weight and I'll do what's called a drop set to failure. And when you're done, you're exhausted, you've really challenged
your body, you've created a lot of muscle hypertrophy, torn muscle that's gonna
grow back larger, you've created some muscle hyperplasia and new tissue growth,
and you haven't worn your joints out and you haven't stressed your body. You
know, I mean, look at the most, look at the past, you know, Mr. Olympias, you know,
these guys go up on the stage to hand trophies out to each other in wheelchairs and walkers.
I mean, you don't want to borrow from your future.
I'm trying to push the future out and not borrow from it.
And so, you know, the more extreme you are with these diets
and, you know, by the 80, 20 year old,
the more extreme you are with dieting and lifestyle
and even spiritual wellbeing or exercise,
the more you are borrowing from the future,
the less like you are to be able to sustain it over a lifetime.
Well, you promise to come back?
Yeah.
I'm serious.
You promise?
Yeah, promise.
No, I'm serious.
I'm not.
Even if I say it all the time, I don't.
I mean it with you.
Okay.
Gary Breckert.
Okay.
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I mean, you are like literally a wealth of information. Oh, thank you. I appreciate you coming on this podcast. Yeah, I've really had a lot of fun
I mean the time flew I mean have it's in hustle. Have it's in hustle. Don't forget it and
Anything else you want to share like where people come I mean if they wanted you can find me at Gary Breka
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I don't have a bunch of stuff to sell,
so if you like what you heard today,
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I'm starting on my own podcast called The Ultimate Human.
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I've got about a dozen episodes filmed so far.
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Oh, I love him. Yeah.
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Thank you so much.
Yeah.
It was amazing.
Awesome.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
That was great.
It's Gary Breka.
I am telling you a wealth of information and I'm not just saying that Gary. Thank you. You're welcome. That was great. Scary Breka. I am telling you a wealth of
information and I'm not just saying that Gary. Thank you. Cheers. It was a great podcast,
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