Hamish & Andy - 2024 Ep 243 - You Spoil Us, Ambassador

Episode Date: March 13, 2024

Hamish & Andy are joined by coin nerd (or expert) Joel Kandiah from The History of Money, who has a massive breakthrough on the quest to get a minted coin. The guys twist the stories in Salacious Headlines, and the chocolate scandals keep coming in, with a Toblerone injury and Ferrero Rocher debacle being shared. Plus, Hamish has a prize giveaway for a lucky listener... 1. Coinologist Joel 2. Salacious headlines 3. Ferrero Rochers and Toblerone injuries 4. Hamish's tiger heads up for grabs 

A listener production. Activate your internet. Because the Hamish and the podcast starts in three, two... Sorry, still buffering. One! Ahoy to me, apple cider, Hamish. Fizz, fizz. Ahoj to me, rice, Jack.

We are vinegar. We are types of vinegar. Well done, Jacko. I just thought we were a... Not a particularly delicious but a passable meal. Apple cider and rice. Everyone. Apple cider and rice. Everyone eat apple cider and rice. I am, of course, balsamic.

That's the giveaway. Hence, hence rounding out the different viningers we are today. Obviously crushed mint and apples, yeast and sugar for him. I don't think I can go through it all. They need ingredients for everything else. But again, a tip of the hat to Mike, we know he spends the best part of a week on that. Connecting those three things.

Can I give you a cool vinegar fact? Can't keep it all deleted. Cut it out if you don't think it's cool. All vinegar has alcohol in it, trace amounts of alcohol in it, but it's so small that our blood can't absorb it. Oh, it's not cool. So you can't see you couldn't get drunk on it.

You couldn't get drunk off it. So it's so small we can't absorb it, we just absorb it, but it's so negligible you'd never feel. No, we can't absorb it. It's like the molecules so small. I don't know on a molecular level, but so we had 25 litres of the stuff you can't get drunk You still don't understand it, but is it because it's so such a small amount of alcohol Or what you keep saying is it's like it's so small your body can absorb it like we have a mesh and it's

Yeah, yeah, like a different the opposite of that, but yeah opposite of that. Yeah, it's a mesh and we can't get into it Yes, yes. I wish I didn't say it now because I actually don't know the details. But I'm sure someone will write in and correct it. No, they won't, I'm deleting that. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Right, Ed. Just know that there'll be no further investigation. Ahoy also to Annika. Just trying to make Darcy, really, we're trying to make Darcy's life easier.

He has to do the edit, so we'll show if there are any and he's got enough stuff to do. We know that Darcy takes liberties anyway, so we'll find out whether that's him or we'll listen back. Ahoy also to Annika from Park City in Utah. Use the very easy to use system at hamishnandy.com. Uploading her audio to tell us what she's up to. Ahoy Haymishnandy and Jack Post-Ballone.

Currently skiing down to Slope and Park City, Utah. Might be thinking it must be nice, but don't worry. I'm still on that student budget, common man life. I paid 13 US dollars for an e-sim that I assume will be sucked up from trying to upload this audio file. Anyway, bye boys, thanks for the good listen down the slope. Mid-skill.

Mid-skill, that's the most, that's what a great little transportation we all got there to be mid-skill run. Shades of a post in that, like, you could tell she has a lot of respect for you, Jack, because she's called you Jack Post Malone, so she's a fan. And you just feel that by saying $13, yet she may be hoping that we'd be like,

oh, mate, let us get that for you. She's just a little bit of a Jack move. Yeah, I do. Being a fan of Jack. Hey, speaking of dollars, speaking of dollars, last week we put the call out for what you described as a coin nerd, but I spoke in host. I think we mean, the coin expert, to join us in the show as we thought we are the number one podcast keeping coins relevant.

We asked, if anyone sees us out there in the flesh, they're welcome to ask us for a dollar if we don't have a dollar on us, we take a bow. And I reached out to the Royal Australian Mint to see whether it's possible that they could make up a commemorative coin or a new coin circulation in honour of our love for the dollar coins. I thought that was a slightly optimistic goal. And it still is, but I thought it was kind of madness when you watered it up. But then the more you educated us,

the more we got to know about commemorative coins and the process behind them, the more we thought maybe this is still gonna require diligence and by your estimates two years of it, but maybe it's possible. But we thought maybe we need a coin, we need a chronologist and expert, a money expert who knows about the way the wheels turn at a mint.

We've got one. His name's Joel Kandai. He does a lot of TikToks called the history of money. He's very into this stuff and he joins us now. Joel Ahoy. Ahoy, boys. Ahoy, Joel. Mate, thank you for taking the time.

This is huge. I mean, you know the scope. Thank you for taking the time. This is huge. I mean, you know the scope of what we're hoping to achieve. Straight off the bat, is it madness, or are we in with a shot? It is feasible. It is feasible. Given that we've had coins about the Wallabies who

had probably the worst boing team we've seen in 20 years. We've had the Wiggles on them. We've got Posse and Magic. I mean, why can't we have... Wiggles have won even less World Cup, to be honest. So, Joel, I was told by the Lattruderia at the Australian Mint that you can't have someone who's alive, their face depicted. We want that anyway.

But do you think that's consistent with what you're seeing across all the commemorative coins? No, no. I think the recent one, the Wiggles, was released a set of two dollar coins and one dollar coins, and the both one dollar coins had all eight Wiggles on there from the past and the present in there. Wow. And I was like, that is very contradictory to what I meant to have told you guys. Oh, yeah, yeah. I rose that with her though, and she's sure. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure.

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I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure. the argument there. I mean, they're just making up their own rules and breaking as they go along. Kids just then go, oh, we said they were living. Can you see the promotion was Aussie living legend? Well, Ned Kelly, you know, OK, we can't have him on. OK, so it seems like there's a little we don't even need our faces, though. That's the other thing.

Could we could what are the chances of because it's more of a show? It's more like the Hamshanese shows shows even if it's like three silhouettes. We liked the idea and again, I'm not locking this in as the art, but even if it's, you know, user generated art, for example, two silhouettes of about and a weasel. People know what that means. May as might not be as iconic as the Wiggles, but it means something to our listeners. Potentially, potentially. But it's one thing that you're missing out.

There is another mint in Australia that you've completely neglected. No. The Perth Mint, yes. Why is the Perth Mint different than the Australian Mint? So the Perth Mint specialised in making bull and coin so-called investors, and they released their own commemorative coins, and they're also legal tender.

You might face the same hurdles as what the other mint or Royal Australian mint. So we can play the mints off against each other. If one of you could do it for 90 cents would be interesting. In Perth in Western Australia, yes, that are allowed to put their own coins out. Exactly. They've got to go for the same process that they're going to get minister of approval every new release, but there is also another way which very, very likely you can get your own $1 coin. But it's a little bit of a stretch. If you let me explain the story here. Okay. So Perth Mint also make coins for a country called Tuvalu. Right? Yeah. The middle Pacific. The Tuvalu dollar is pegged to the Australian dollar one to one.

The Perth Mint pay a fee to Tuval balloon government and allowed them to make whatever coins they want every year So they make spider-man coins James Bond coin Yeah, but it will still have the Queen on it because all King Charles depending when they change the energy So there'll still be a roll figure on the head side of the coin, and you can have your design on the back. If you get into the right people at the Perth Mint, I'm sure they could oblige with that. Can I just ask you a question here, Joel? You say the Perth Mint haze the Tuvalese government like a fee.

How can we make your coins? Pretty much. What's in it for them? They get a fee. That's it. So same so they get... I don't know what exact amount is. They get paid for them? They get a fee. That's it. So, same, so they get, I don't know what exact amount is, they get paid, but they get paid a fee and that contributes to the running of the trivially government. It's a very small country.

It's a good amount of money that they make and they happily end the Perfume and Oblige is a re-earned making it. No, I know, but like, but the Perfume, sorry, in my mind the Perfume's there, like making the coins and then paying someone to go, can we give you these coins? No, they don't give it to them. They actually sell them to collectors straight away. So the Perthman makes a lot more money than the fee they actually paid to Tuvalese. So it's legal Tuvalese currency with Spider-Man on it, but as a collector, you might be paying like 20 bucks to get that coin.

Pretty much, exactly. That's it. And the Tuvalu's dollar is legal tenet in Australian dollars. So it's dollar for dollar. It's paid to the currency. So you can use Australian dollars in Tuvalu. So it's buying extension. It is still in Australian dollar. So we could, if we run out of luck with the Royal Australian Mint and Perth Mint, I'm interested, we could contact our pals in Tuvalu and try and get a coin released there.

You think you were confused by Spider-Man? When do you see this coin? Hey, John, quick. Okay, our other option at the moment is Jim Chalmers is the Treasurer. Treasurer. Yes. Have you met him? You're into coins?

Well, actually, so he's a Treasurer, but he gets an Assistant Treasurer to sign. Have you met him? You're into coins? Well, actually, so he's a Treasurer, but he gets an assistant Treasurer to sign off on those coins. Well, can I just, this is the bombshell I'd like to give Andy. I found out the name of the assistant Treasurer, right? The assistant minister for Treasury, okay? He's Dr. Andrew Lee.

Oh! Oh! Oh! Wait, wait, wait, wait. The CEO of the Royal Australian Ministers League, Gordon, so it's Lee and Lee. Wait, wait, wait. You know this? The CEO of the Royal Australian Ministers, Lee Gordon. So it's Lee and Lee. Oh, wow. Okay, so... But here's what I'm thinking because...

So I could pretend I got some mail or something. Yeah, because the assistant minister for Treasury, who seems to be kind of maybe handle more of the currency stuff. If we... Our initial plan, Joel, was to stop Jim Schalmers in the car park one, like 459 on a Friday and go, listen, we don't want to bother you, but just sign this, can we have our own coin? What if we could get someone to him that goes, Andy Lee is cool with this? And he will think, Andrew Lee, he'll think it's his Andrew Lee, the honorable one. Not rather than the dishonorable one.

What he doesn't know who I heard in. So I think Andrew Lee signed off on this, 100%. In fact, he loves the idea. He had the idea. This is a great idea. So what we need, Ham, is still a cow fuck. But we need someone to go, hey, can you sign off on this? Andrew Lee has signed off on this. Andrew Lee fully backs this and will resign if this doesn't work. Yeah, great.

Then we've got Tuvalu in our back pocket to go through Tuvalu. But then we'll need a Perth Mint hookup. I believe there's competing mints. Because you know all the coins. As far as dollar coins go, who do you think deserved one the least? What about it? Was there one at the time that just didn't grab the public's attention? Is there one that... Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, 2011, there was a coin to commemorate Catherine and Will's wedding.

And obviously, they allowed living people as in royal families to have been a coin. And the coin itself has probably been derided the most by the numismatic community. They came to a... Well, that's still a big... I remember this. Wasn't it a big deal because it didn't look anything like them? Exactly. That's exactly it. It just looked nothing like them. It was just this weird outline, lack of detail,

like some scary ghost kind of picture. It's still a big event though, Joel. I'm wondering, is there like some kind of, you know... Because we know we'll be the least famous, like the most underwhelming to a non listener of this show Like yeah, there will be the biggest head scratcher of a coin You know get that yeah, the car boot sale was invented or something You know like is there what one of the worst ones I've seen is the hundred years of the tax office

Joving that's an inside job. That is absolutely someone getting Jim at 459 inside job. That is absolutely someone getting Jim at 450. Who is celebrating? And the tax rate to send off it at the end of it. That's a tax office got one. Yeah. I think that that reeks of nepotism. I think the probably now that's the argument you make to Jim Lixon, when the people back on side give the people's podcast

one. No one was cheering for the tax office. Joel, this has been so informative. Thank you so much for the Tuvalu leads. That goes on the flow chart for sure, doesn't it? Did we get Jim? Yes. Was he angry? Yes. Oh, if so, go to this. Thanks, Joel. Appreciate it, mate. Thanks, Joel. Appreciate it, mate. Thanks, guys. Thanks, mate. See you. See you.

Well, a bit to work through, a bit to work through. And what I love is at the start of this, you gave it a two-year horizon. So I think just take a couple of monthos off. Yeah, exactly. We don't need to. Two years, mate. I feel like we're probably at October by now.

Like the amount of work we've done for our normal level of work, I just want to... We find ourselves with contacts and options. Yes options and position we never find ourselves in. So at least... Do you want me to kick the feed up? Hey, at the start of the year, we like to catch up on what we've all been up to with a small game of the Salacious Headlines game. We do like this game.

People who don't know this game, essentially it seems illegal now to report anything properly. You have to search for- It's kind of a scandal. Yeah, if you're in the media, you have to search for a headline that makes it look like much more of a scandal than the actual story. We're essentially, people that work for the Daily Mail

would be listening to this going, guys, you meant to be, just you meant to be having fun on your podcast. Don't do what we do for a job as your pastime. You could do anything. So essentially we've asked each other to come to the show today with something that we thought was great over the break.

And almost unspinable. You know what I mean? Like almost as innocuous as possible. Yeah. Like, just the gentlest piece of news. And then we'll try to turn to a terrible hit one. The rest of the group's job, yes, is to give it the clickbait treatment. Okay.

Let's jump into it. Oh, that's lovely. Nothing wrong with that. That's perfect. No, it's not. Wait a second. There is something wrong with that. Salacious headline.

Hey, give us your news first. Okay, what can you do with this? We got two kittens called Potato and Jimothy. That's it. Okay. Salacious headline, Salacious headline in three, two, one. Draw me to go, Jack. There you go.

Blake family continue their hatred for dogs. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Blake's house are revealed not to be his children. That's good as well. That's really good. And always naked and made to poo in a box. I thought I'd eat off the floor. I thought I'd also Blake family caught buying exotic animals. Pretty good. Pretty good. I also thought another one to help you future games.

A possible flank I had open was, you know, you know another impulse by Her just made hastily. I mean you could really go anywhere, but I love what you've done. Well done Jacko, do you want to go now? All right. My good news was my son Gordy his favorite animal is a cow So for his second birthday everyone was invited to dress as a cow and we had a Moo Party. Okay. Here we go. Celatius headline, Celatius headline in three, two, one.

Notorious Weasel, Jack Post, Shun's much loved Aussie icon, Blue Bluey and saves money by using generic license-free animal for birthday party. I like it. Mine was simpler. Jack Post and his wife Bianca Court treating child like farm animal. To be fair, we're all treated like farm animal. That's true. Well, to be fair, it's not a phrase we're using this game. That's the opposite of the game.

Good. All right, what have you got for us? Well, back and over the break, we realized that that last Christmas was our 10th one together. Congratulations. The most recent Christmas with our 10th one together. Congrats, Hando. Congratulations. The most recent Christmas without tenth one together. Congrats, hand over. Salacious headline, Salacious headline in three, two, one.

I, doing the maths on this, I realise if that's your tenth anniversary together, it's also another anniversary. That's what I've chosen too. because they're journalists that do this stuff. So they can deduce stuff by facts. Right. Andy and Beck celebrate two year co-vaping anniversary as the Weaver. Surprises his lover with plum-pood-centred vape bomb. Don't take it as slight liberty. He was eight years before vaes came on the scene, and so they have just done the math. I would be interested to see the accompanying photographs.

Well, it would be the photo you posted of the vape on the table. This is the headline I have for 10 Christmases Together. Couple Andy Lee and Beck Harding emit to 10 encounters with bearded old man. Oh, I could miss. You've been in midst of that. We got it out of them. Gents, in the old, is this what we stand for in 2024, canopy? One of the things we decided we definitely do still stand for is chocolate investigations, purely because no one else has got the guts to do it, I think. I totally agree.

I don't want a hijack. I've got one quick one. Please do. This is literally in the middle of saying we're the place for it. Yes. What we're not going to, can I say though, we're not going to get every individual company on for a please explain when there's a certain aspect of a chocolate bar left out. We kind of gather that it happens across the board. We had the kit without the cat. Yeah. Love hearing about him. This came in from a nuke he was working through a Ferrero share. Small job.

I've been put too long aside for it. Good news guys, I'm through the crust hazelnuts going through the way for now. I'll let you know when I hit the main hazelnut. Well that was the thing. What happened? No, no main hazelnut. So on one hand you're going to work through it a lot faster. or not. Well, that was the thing. What happened? No, no, no main hazel nut. So on one hand, you're going to work through it a lot faster. Yeah. Because you've taken out the main piece of friction from the center. Yeah.

But do you know what was in there? Air or just? Yeah. Now, they're light to begin with, aren't they? So I can't blame him. That is very light. Can't blame him for picking up the whole frera rushia and not going, oh, hang on a minute. Yep. Yep. There also, it's a roasted hazelnut, which is lighter than a raw one. The other thing that happened, so anyway, we're just saying that happens. You can leave out something we weren't, we're not going to get a big space for the Ferrero Rocher. I would be interested to know if it was from a box or one of the pyramid assortments. God, who are we talking to over the break? I think it was my brother-in-law.

Just while we're on Ferrero Rocher, so this just popped into my head. So what I was going to say was like, was it from a box and they were all missing the hazelnut or was it just an odd one out? Or did he treat himself to a single Ferrero from the. Can you buy a lone Ferrero? Maybe not above board. Maybe I feel like I've seen him for 50 cents each, but that might be a shop that's getting a 24 pack and. Yeah, this is the amount which they're told specifically not to do on the package. On the package.

Yeah, yeah. The old find for you guys next week, because it just popped back into my head, but it's my brother-in-law, friend of ours, Andy. Friend of all of ours. Andy is his name. He is English, lives out here. But we had Rochers over the Christmas, the mandated break during the Christmas film. Have they ever gone with Cher Rocher?

Not first. Good. But he won't really... I've never even really heard someone just call it a Rocher. Rocher, yeah. Well, we know you make some. But you do always. I find you always. I can't. Rocher, yeah. Well, we know who makes them. But you do always find you always. I can't believe Rocher is it.

No, Ferrero. That's true, actually. I've never realized that. So, is Ferrero the maker? So is it like it? Ferrero is the company. Ferrero make Raffaello, they make Rocher. I think they might make that.

So, Volkswagen and Tiguens, the Rocher. Yeah. Or does everyone make a Rocher? Can anyone make a Rocher? I don't think Rocher would be patented wafer ball, crushed hazelnuts, chocolate roasted hazelnut. That's why it's Nutella in there. That's why Nutella tastes a bit like Ferrero Rocher because they're both Ferrero.

So they couldn't go at Cabri's Rocher? They'd have an absolute hornet's nest on their knees. They could. It would be one of the biggest shots fired in the confectionery world. You're like Ferrero bringing out a curly whirling and going, you didn't invent the notion of curling and whirling. It would be big. It would delight us. We'd say we heard of it. We would follow it. It would be big. It would delight us. We would follow it. There's half a year taking care of it.

Once Jack's finished doorstopping Mars, we get him to start doorstopping Cabrion Ferreiro. Ferreiro, yeah. I was going to say, and I will get the ad for us next week if we can still be bothered, because I offered him, we had some Ferreiro Rochers at Mum's house. We're all staying at mom's. And he said, it goes sort of like quite a posh accent,

oh, you spoil me, Ambassador. What? Because he had the Rocher. Rocher, okay. What's that about? He goes, you know the ad? He goes, I can't have a Ferrero Rocher without saying, oh, you spoil me, Ambassador. I don't know the ad. And he found the ad. We, the ad, he goes, I can't have a row chair without saying, I don't know, you just spoiled me a mess. And he found the ad.

We found the ad on YouTube and he bought it up. And I vaguely remember this. I would, we would be talking like early nineties. That was the, in Britain, it was a very famous ad. And I reckon it did make it out here because it rings a bell, but not to this, not to the immediate recall that he had. Yeah. But the concept for, because remember, Rers was sold in his like, the luxurious toy.

Oh, yeah. Because they were gold, we didn't question it. We were like, yeah. Mum and Dad may have them at an important dinner party. And if we looked at them, they'd be like, what are you doing? Don't even think about it. Get away from the Rochers. Absolute Rolls Royce of chocolate.

Yeah. And that was cleverly done to us by the marketing geniuses at Ferrero, A, because it's gold and it just had that air. But then you look at this ad and that's what they've gone for, too. The concept for the ad is it's a function at the ambassador's residence. Oh.

It's like this black door, man. Everyone's swanning around. So not only is it being, it seems like it's like this black time, man. Everyone's swanning around. So not only is it being, it seems like it's like, you know, it looks like an embassy in London. Like not only does it seem to be a bit of a hit, but as if a butler comes past with the pyramid of Ruchers. So it's a room full of people that already are used to nice things.

Obviously, you know, laid on you would have assumed everyone's been driven there in a show third Bentley. Hard crowd to impress. Yes. Butler comes through with the old pyramid of Ferrero Rochers. It does the job. I think it's a lady who takes one off the top and looks at the ambassador who's sort of a Pierce Brosnan type character.

He's like, oh, you spoil, I lost ambassador. That makes sense for me as well because- And he nods. Yes, I am. So I was like, kind of like, don't get used to it, but Kiki heals I'm tonight. Christian O'Connell, who I do the Booker show with here on goal. He's English, obviously. He uses that as a punchline sometimes.

And I thought it was just always a fun thing he made up. So sometimes just in the show you'll be like, oh, you spoiled me, ambassador for something posh. And I just thought that was something he made up. It's from the wheelchair. Right. That's amazing. Amazing.

Hey, one other quick one, just before you go to your major one, so I know you're on the floor. Sometimes you're eating too fast and you go, this is a pinot naminem is obviously my crotch. I can't start them without finishing the whole thing. Beck now has a system where she rations them to me. If you know where the rest are, you'll get them.

Exactly. I'm plowing through them. Could this ever happen? This is just for one for ongoing. I throw the question out there. Throw it up, land in my mouth,ed down, swear it was a Sultana. But you ate it too fast to really know. Yeah.

Oh, gosh. You're mouth would be an over-draught. But why is that? So creepy. In a Sultana? Oh, gosh. To my knowledge, there is no Sultana M&M. No, no, yeah, there wouldn't be on the same machine.

I'm just wondering could it happen? Maybe. Maybe. If you're at the M&M factory, we're all working there. I go, and we're looking at like the VAT that's like, you know, there's like, you know, tons of roasted peanuts flying into the machine. I go, hey, boys, boys, boys, boys. Just show you quietly a saltine. I'm like, with my back to the security camera, just ping, just flip it onto the conveyor belt.

Maybe that could happen. You'd like to think not. Yeah. But that could have been what happened. Or you can get a dud peanut. I've had that. I know that. I know that.

This was salt. It was a salt hammer. I just was like, can that have happened? Had this sugary tang of a saltana. Yes. Bizarre. And I only had a single. It was the one M&M in my mouth at a time.

And they're definitely not doing like a Willy Wonka's golden ticket type thing where you get the saltana and you've won a prize. Well, I hope not because it's hard to... It's hard to know. It's all of an honesty system. Or a fecal sifting system, both of which you aren't as attractive. Both of which the marketing team would have been going,

damn it, we should never have done this. Yeah, you just got a report back from Legal Skies. There are a few holes in the Salton Island, Golden Salton Island right here. Hopefully someone comes in. If someone has worked it deep inside Eminem. Because I'm just going to say, I don't remember ever seeing a fruit and nut

mix there is not a rum and right. There's not a But it's the next logic which we all know that chocolate go to peanuts around 900 times better than a chocolate saltana. Yeah as we've discussed on the show before They're just a waste of a time coding a saltana you get people continue to but you wouldn't have thought Eminem would Because they know the game and they know what people like. Yes. I know we are meant to move on. That does remind me though. When we were away over the break, went on a family bike ride with the kids, just while we're talking about M&Ms. And this is evidence of how little people like Sultanas. One of the things when we do blakes on bikes, our family bike riders, whether the kids

make their own Scroggen or Trail mix. Right. So I don't know. You have the chocolate on a match. Well, we do. Yeah, we do the thing where we go to the supermarket and they can pick a few of the things to go in. And it's just all like, you know, lollicoke bottles and M&Ms and stuff and means I like trying to like jam banana chips and Sultanas, which aren't even that healthy, but something something that's not an M&M in there.

We were out on the trail day one, we stop at a little hut chips and saltons, which aren't even that healthy, but something, something that's not an M&M in there. We were out on the trail day one, we stop at a little hut, Scrogg stop, and I'm saying to my daughter, hey honey, come on, you can't just have the lollies. I'm like, no idea of Scroggers, you take a handful and there's a selection, just picking out the lollies. I was like, have some nuts. She goes, I don't want any nuts, because we've jammed like almonds and, yeah, cashews and peanut and stuff in there. She goes, I don't want any nuts. Cause we've jammed like almonds and, yeah, cashews and my peanuts and stuff in there.

She goes, I don't want any nuts. You have to have a mix of everything. Otherwise it's just candy. She goes, all right. I'll have a peanut M&M. And this is how like beaten down I am as a negotiator with Rue. Cause I was like, have some nuts.

She's like, I'm not having any nuts. I was like, please something. Have a banana chip. Don't like them. Okay. Have a pretzel. I've like, have some nuts. She's like, I'm not having any nuts. I was like, please something. Have a banana chip, don't like them. Okay. Have a pretzel. I've already, I think I had one before. Okay. She goes, I have a peanut in M&M. Okay.

Puts the peanut in M&M in her mouth. She goes, sorry, Dad. It was a crispy. I appreciate her honesty. Oh well, we nearly ate a nut. We got very close. We got close to a trace amount of nutrition. Is there a chat with you? Huff rice, I think.

Huff rice. So maybe it's not. There's no nutritional real difference. It was just theoretically it would have been nice to know she had one nut that day. And we do have to play this. It's got to say a couple of weeks ago, Theoretically, I would have been nice to know she had one nut. And we do have to buy this. It's got to say a couple of weeks ago. It definitely falls under chocolate investigations.

Quickly, Jack, you obviously have a stance on the show against Toblerone. Too sharp, too tough, no need. Yeah, I mean, they can sell them all they want and people can buy them. But personally, I don't like to buy it into. Absolutely. It's like people that aren't interested in skydiving or climbing Mount Everest. Like I'm not saying we shut the activity down. You won't find someone with my risk appetite partaking in that activity. Does Jack think people should need a license to eat one? I don't think we have to go that

far. I think people could. Will that be the case? There should be some kind of rule, though, giving them to kids, I think. Sorry. I'm just thinking of a recap of the Rocherad, whereas, oh, Ambassador, you suppose, get down, he's got a Toblerone! And then it all goes, all goes to hell as terrorists burst in holding Toblerones. And everyone just puts their hands on the ambassador's kidnapped. goes to hell as terrorists burst in holding Toblerone. Just puts their hands on the ambassadors kidnapped a couple of people wielding the 360 gram Toblerone, the biggest and sharpest.

This is not what I want to talk about. We had a listener of the show. We get again though, Jack, perhaps you're a bit of a trailblazer here because how's this? I would get an email in this guy, Joe, where he actually his family going, hey, our brother has had a mishap with a Toblerone. He's had an injury. And I was like, right, would you like to come on the show and talk about it?

Then Carly produced the car, he goes, oh, look, he's actually traveling at the moment. He's overseas. The times don't line up. Yeah, right. She'd be passionate about it, though, because I think you find Toblerone's also. Carl's is in, I think she's in Jack's camp. A bit worried, yeah, worrying, yeah.

So they're traveling at the moment, I think they're in South Africa. So I'm like, yeah, we don't want to, it's like a, we're like 2am. All right, well, we're interested in the story, but obviously not to the point we have to ruin one of your days on holiday. By waking up in the middle of the night to talk to us for 10 seconds. I go, could Joe do a 15 second video, just explaining the injury and maybe just telling us what happened, I think we'd all like to hear about.

Carl's, I don't know if Kelly expressly said 15 seconds to Joe because when Joe once asked, I think she said do a short bit. Yeah, just do us a quick summary. So already there's a bit of lost in translation. By the time it came back, it was nearly three minutes long. Joe's like deposition. I've listened to it very funny.

We probably, I'm aware we've talked about the Frera, Rachea, around for about an hour. So I'm not claiming we're time poor, but it also becomes apparent. You're here at the start. He's had a few beers when he's made the video because that's what he's sending such a whopper. So instead of playing the full thing though I've just gone through with Darcy and just sped up the bits that aren't they're funny

But we didn't need them for the story. Okay, I've tried to create a condensed down version here of Joe's story Oh, very sorry almost forgot to send this we are holiday in South Africa and I have South Africa and I have about eight beers. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.

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tooth extraction surgery. It was 18 hours in the store. Probably never in Toblo again. Okay, bye. Wow, and I'm not surprised. Another cautionary tale. What a sakejako. I mean, look, it's and he... Because that's the thing. They're pointy and I didn't say this last time, but they're so

dense. Like you compare that to a Ferrero Rocher soft entry into a chocolate. You're more likely to crack your tooth on your own tooth as on the other side of your mouth. Yes, with a Ferrero. Or the hazelnut, which is maybe why they take some out. And maybe there's a special addition that we haven't noticed, which is, you know, denture friendly or softer on mouths or something like that, like a trainee Rochette without the density of the nut in the middle. Oh, boy. Either way, Yes, you spoil us.

You spoil us. That's it. And I've got something that we can, that I think is a juicy, juicy, juicy prize for a listener of the podcast. Now, we don't need to do that. Well, we have given away some great stuff in the past, the Incinerator. That's right.

Toilet. Please don't compare them. Because I think there was a market difference in the demand for the Incinerator versus the toilet. That's true. Obviously, your tooth was a hit. So there is a certain threshold you have to meet in terms of interest and public desire. Here's what I've got. And there's a reason that it's now surplus to demand.

Sticks. Sticksmas. We did Sticksmas. Sticksmas. No, Sticksmas was a far bigger. They had a lot more cut through than I think we gave it great for at the time. I still get people referencing Stixmas because there is

something great about a good bundle of nice sticks. Anyway, it's not Stixmas. Stixmas has only occurred once on the show. Yeah, it's fine about a stick. I mean, I probably if we ever ever get super long content this year, I could rummage around the bush. Another batch of good sticks. I think we're OK.

I think we're OK. I think we're OK. So just before Christmas, the other holiday, last year, Zo and I had a Vegas theme party at our house. Yes. You were sadly unable to make it. Jack, you've got to tell me about it. You got sent two emails.

Yeah, neither of them came. So you say... Did you hear that, Jack? That's what happened. I'm out, I feel like I'm hearing both sides of the story. Well, we've said you got the emails, you said you didn't get the emails. Zo sent screenshots of the sent emails to Andy. That doesn't mean I got them.

You got to send the screenshot of me, either in my email inbox. We don't know what happened. Habish goes to me, anyway, what are you wearing this weekend? I'm like, what are you talking about? And it was like, I was like, oh, I guess we've just never talked about it.

But yeah, you coming to the party? He's like, no, I'm busy. I was like, oh, okay. Well, and then I told him, I was like, was I meant to tell him email Andy? I thought you were sending out the inbox. She's like, then I was like, no, this. Well, and then I told her, I was like, was I meant to tell email Andy? I thought you were sitting at the end, right? She's like, then Zoe was like, no, this hasn't happened on my watch. And was like, here is email evidence.

So I've sent it out. Anyway, so sadly, yeah, you were in Melbourne. This was in Sydney. Jack, you were, you did get the invite and it made it into the calendar. You came in a wonderful outfit. Thank you. That was a little bit tight around the crotch. Okay.

I heard from others at the time. Yeah. But you know, hey, it's Christmas. Okay. That's what they, oh, it was from a proper costume shop. So that's how they dress. You would be rude to say. Oh, it's something.

Anyway, pressing on. Wow, congrats, congrats on the other SP. Yes. I, me and Ryan, our buddy, when it's Ziegfried and Roy, the well-known Vegas magicians from sort of the 90s and 2000s. Now they had white targets. That was their own white lines.

And so they did stuff with big cats. So then another couple of our friends came, that was the idea, they'll come as the tigers. So in the lead up to the party, we're trying to sort this outfit out and so it was Whipper and Tommy coming as the white tigers. They were like, what do you think we should do? We was like, I will make the tiger outfit out of like a morph suit, like a onesie and put carpet on it, like stick fur and stuff on it. So, but we need the head. You need, you can't get it. It's hard to make a tiger's head.

So I was like, I'll hunt that down guys, Dore. So I got one of these sites like Timo or Xi'an, like these sites that just have everything and it comes from China. Right. The party was three weeks away. I find for like about $200 each, two tiger mascot heads, white tiger heads.

This site that sells me a channel. I was like, and it's like delivery nine to 10 days. Yeah. It's like, well, we're within the window here. Boom. Boys, I've got your tiger heads. The party is approaching, still no sign of the tiger. It's like everybody were like, oh, they've got to be at the post office today.

They don't come, they don't come. Last minute, day before scramble, costume shop, they managed to find targets. We just, targets just never showed up. Yep. About February 10th, two quite large packages appear on the door. Like these massive round packages.

Huge. Like the size of a footstool each. Like wrapped up and then stamped. They've been through like every port in the world. It's the Tiger Heads. Yes. They've shown. Did you know immediately or did you've had you forgotten about? Took me a second. Yeah. Cause it was like that part was a month, like over a month ago.

So I go and look, I'm like, I think this is the Tiger Heads. They've finally arrived. I completely forgot about these. So now I've got six, seven weeks after the party, two white tiger mascot heads. I don't have a use for them. I would be willing to donate them to the show. But then of course, you go, a, what a, what a special treat for someone to get two white tiger heads. But B, you wanted to go to a good home. Yeah. I think the right way to give these away would be to someone who can explain why they want them to the tune of Eye of the Tiger.

Right? Just the first bit. Like don't get too carried away. So I think the first thing has to be, cause I want the tiger. Dot, dot, dot. Okay, okay. Okay, cool. I get you in. Then you just get one chorus. So one chorus, cause I want the tiger, I've got this party coming up, whatever.

Yeah. I thought you meant to start over like that. Then I've got a party coming up. That's not really the lyrics though, is it? Because I mean, you could put the instrumental on, but we'll be listening to that a lot. So I think just fast forward to the guts of it, which is the chorus. Yeah, I want the tiger. That is what I'm willing to give away. I'll take the financial hit. Are we asking them to upload audio?

Here we are. Okay. Gee, I'd like a, wouldn't it be great to have a WhatsApp for that? Yeah. This is simple. Upload audio, will we make our own? I've just realized what I'm asking you here

because it won't be next week. We're not, we've got a very easy to use system to upload audio at thehamshae.com. I was gonna take two years for the coin to come, so maybe we'll take two years for the audio to come. Well, will we have a dedicated page or they just doing it on? Just attach it. I think it is.

I think I think this is probably in each market like the tooth. OK, I think I don't think everyone needs to white tiger heads. But if you did, imagine there's a footy club or something out there that could have that there are the tigers. That's what I mean. The white tigers. Anyone ever the Tigers. That's what I mean. The white Tigers. Anyone ever the white Tigers?

That'd be incredible. Would you give two different ones away if they, if people only want one tiger? They come as a pair. Um, to be honest, there's probably going to be someone else sending them out. So it's no skin off my nose. I would only give away a pair if it was just a labeling issue.

Okay. Yeah, they were in separate. They are in separate canals. So two winners. Well, I'd love to know if you needed both because that was the I bought two. So I'd love to give away two if I have to. I'll split them. Can split.

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