Handsome - Andrea Gibson asks about flirting

Episode Date: September 10, 2024

Andrea Gibson blows our minds with their poetry and performance, and they're also one of the funniest people we know. So it's a thrill to have Andrea ask a question with a spicy theme-- flirt...ing! Plus red tents, pick up line impressions, and much more.Handsome is hosted by Tig Notaro, Mae Martin, and Fortune FeimsterFollow us on social media: @handsomepodMerch: handsomepod.comWatch on youtube: youtube.com/@handsomepodEmail the show: handsomepod@gmail.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:02:06 It's me, your dear old friend, May Martin. Oddly enough, it's me, Fortune Feimster. How did we all end up here? I don't know, I just wandered into my room and the Zoom was on and we were already recording. Y'all were recording and I was like, I wanna be handsome. Mm-hmm, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:26 Where's Biggie speaking of handsome? He's downstairs. He hasn't been up here in a minute. There's a small black ball on the floor there next to you. That's not Biggie's. Okay, okay, good. He does have a black ball area. Fortune!
Starting point is 00:02:43 What are we talking about out of the gate here? Well, first off, that's a door stopper over there. Okay, I thought it was a small poo. I did that as a small poo. Oh, it does look like a poo, yes. Yeah, and you were talking about, you thought it was Biggie's testicle or what? Well, so when we first got Biggie,
Starting point is 00:03:00 he was not nude when he was rescued. And when we rescued him from the rescue, he had been neutered. You used them as a doorstop. And that area was black. Oh boy. No balls. But, because he got neutered.
Starting point is 00:03:17 But. Wait, why was it black? Why was it? I don't know. Just a dirty patch? I don't know what made him that happen anyway. Well, you guys are looking handsome. You're looking great. Oh, thank you.
Starting point is 00:03:37 It's a new moon today. Is it? What does that mean? Yeah, I don't know. Means the old one's gone. Yeah, they recast the moon. Does this mean Mercury's out of retrograde? I hear that a lot. Oh, it has been in retrograde.
Starting point is 00:03:51 I don't know what that means, but I'm feeling it. Oh man, am I feeling. Man, am I feeling it. All I ever hear is like, oh, you're having miscommunication problems. Mercury is in retrograde. Yeah, I go, oh yes, that could be something to it, or we just miscommunicated.
Starting point is 00:04:10 But this is where I go back to, aren't there miscommunications when Mercury is not in retrograde? I assume so. Surely, surely. They're always like, don't sign any important contracts. But I'm like, well, I feel like- Who is saying this? Yeah, and also- Your reps?
Starting point is 00:04:28 Don't they know that you're signing important- Don't sign contracts, Mercury's in retrograde. But that's what you do. Every morning you sign something with your coffee. That would be weird in business to be told that, for sure. Yeah, if the person looking over your entire career is like, listen. they do it by astrology. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Do you think? Yeah. What would happen if like, would the world fall apart if we were just like, let's try this. Okay, let's govern everything around. The world has fallen apart. Yeah, you're right. It's already fallen apart. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Like my friend was talking about if you were conducting a symphony and you said, okay, instead of sitting in like the string section and the brass section, why don't we sit like all the Pisces together, all the Taurus is together and just see what happens. And then what happens? And mix it up, I don't know, it'd be cool. Anyways.
Starting point is 00:05:17 If the cancers were all together, we would be sharing feelings. Oh yeah, very emotional. That would be like the woodwinds. And a little moody. Are you a moody person, Fortune? No, only if I'm tired or hungry. And how often do you find yourself tired or hungry?
Starting point is 00:05:35 I'm usually satiated. Do you ever get, if you're moody and then someone's like, are you just tired or hungry? And then that's like super annoying when someone suggests that. And then you're like, yeah probably. No, I don't get annoyed by that. I'm like, finally someone gets me.
Starting point is 00:05:51 You feel seen? Oh my gosh, years ago, I dated somebody that said to me once, she said, oh, somebody needs their coffee. Oh, no, it's like, first of all, I understand that some people are that way. If you know me well, I am not somebody where I'm like, do not talk to me until I have my coffee.
Starting point is 00:06:21 I ate that mug, but first coffee. Well, actually my mug says, ask me about my cat. But I understand that people have that. I'm not, there's no judgment about that. I get it for you and you and you. For me, I am not a get out of my way. Right. Let me have my coffee.
Starting point is 00:06:46 That means if you're annoyed in the mornings because you're legit annoyed about something. Yeah, there was something going on. I was like, how dare you try and pretend that I haven't had my coffee. Probably every single month, there's like a couple of days where I'm like, I think everything's really bad and nobody likes me and everything is against me
Starting point is 00:07:10 and I think nothing's worth it. And then I get my period and I'm like, how do I every month, not for my whole life, I think that my whole reality has shifted for 48 hours and nobody could convince me that it's my period. Can't you get one of those apps? I'm sure, yeah, I gotta do that. I kind of don't wanna even acknowledge that it's my period. Can't you get one of those apps? I'm sure, yeah, I gotta just do that. I kind of don't wanna even acknowledge
Starting point is 00:07:27 that I get my period. I thought I wouldn't by now, cause I'm on testosterone, but let me tell you, my ovaries are chugging away. They're strong guys. Chugging and lugging. So you didn't wanna acknowledge that you had a period just cause you're like, I'm past those days.
Starting point is 00:07:43 I'm just like, it freaks me out. It doesn't. And so I just didn't engage with it in the way that I was like, oh, this is my reproductive system. I'm kind of like, I'm not gonna look too closely at it. I'll just let it out. You're like, I'll just wait till I have a podcast with hundreds of thousands of listeners
Starting point is 00:08:00 and then just mention it there. Yeah, exactly. Jack started into a little bit of a different person and I'll be like, is it that time? Yeah. And she's like, how dare you? Dare you, yeah. And then like two hours later, she's like, it is,
Starting point is 00:08:15 but I don't like that you assume that that's what this is. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh my gosh, I am past all of that. That sounds nice. It is not as nice as it sounds because I have all of that. I think I've talked about it on here, but like medications and like with hot flashes and like the kind of cancer I had and the kind of medication I can take and the, it's just so like trying to figure out what to do, how to do it, when to do it, try this, these kind of, you know, my body is responding so crazily.
Starting point is 00:08:59 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's just a science experiment. Yeah, keep talking about periods. Just two just a science experiment. Yeah, keep talking about periods. Just two seconds, hold on. Wait, what? Did Fortune just get her period? Wait, what just happened? Fortune said, you guys keep talking about periods
Starting point is 00:09:15 and then stood up and walked away. Went and changed her tampon. Wait, what is, and now she's bringing in a plant. Fortune. What is happening? This is so mysterious. I don't. Fortune.
Starting point is 00:09:36 It's bringing in bushes. Fortune. Fortune, Marie. Why did you stop the podcast? You didn't even stop, you said- I'm gonna keep talking. You two keep talking about your periods. I ordered all this period talk to continue.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Then you stood up, you ground everything. Maybe he's subconscious about my background just being a black dot that looks like poo. So I was like, you know what? I do need to juice this up. And I got a bush. Oh man, does that look sweet. So does this change everything?
Starting point is 00:10:08 Oh yeah. If you guys aren't watching this on YouTube, you're really missing out on my background at the moment. Yeah, it went from poop to bush. But wait, was that the whole, was that all for that punchline? Like that was all leading up to? Oh, I didn't even know that punchline was coming
Starting point is 00:10:24 until I sat down. Oh, Portia's just such a comedy master. Wow. That she was able to fold it in. Wow. Without us knowing. Does it feel more complete though, my vibe? It's like you've drawn so much attention to it
Starting point is 00:10:39 that now it's like my brain is finding it very- You can't concentrate. You seem like an erratic woman on her period. It's not happened, it's not happy with. I'm gonna change the vibe around here. Yeah, yeah. So are you on your period, Fortune? I'm not actually think the baby Jesus.
Starting point is 00:10:59 I don't like it. You don't like it either, eh? No, I don't wanna, I'm never having kids. Yeah, that's how I feel. That wasn't towards kids. Hey! That wasn't towards kids, that was for periods. Tired of all the kid bashing in the world. No, that was not for the kids.
Starting point is 00:11:18 How dare you? No, I don't need this happening in my life. Do you think anyone loves getting it? Like it's like, can't wait. Some people probably are very like, I'm being reborn. I like this card. I don't know that anyone's. I'm cycling out of this and cycling into that.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Yes. With that voice. That voice. Yeah. I'm cycling into this and now the red tent. Now I'm cycling back in. Have I talked about the book, The Red Tent before where they all got sent out to a tent?
Starting point is 00:11:54 You go on and on and on about The Red Tent. No, I don't know about this. I just think that if it's a book about, was it, what times were they? Egyptian times. Olden times, I bet. I think it was the 70s. Is there such a thing as Egyptian times?
Starting point is 00:12:11 Ancient Egyptian times. You're the history box. Yeah. You tell us. It's been a while. In the times of Abraham and all the things, they would, the ladies during this time. Abraham and all the things. Yeah, this is from ancient Egypt.
Starting point is 00:12:30 And all that stuff. They would get sent out to a red tent when it was that time of the month, because ugh, gross. The men didn't wanna, we didn't wanna be privy to that. Yeah. And they were just like, I imagine they braided each other's hair and put lotion on each other and shared feelings and I was like, if I had to be in those times,
Starting point is 00:12:57 send me to the red tent all the time. Cause that's like when I was a closet lesbian, that was my dream scenario. Being in a tent on pillows. You were never closeted by the way. Closeted to myself. I just want to be in a tent with pillows, someone's laying in my lap.
Starting point is 00:13:17 You're putting lotion on. There's change, hair braiding, there's lotion rubbing on arms. This is like my college experience. Yeah, yeah. Cause I bet in those olden times too that it's not like the women were having a great time in the home.
Starting point is 00:13:32 So they must've been like a- Yeah, they were having to cook and you got a break. It's a break. Go to the restroom. Yeah, let me be with ladies and we're gushing blood, but we are happy. I would just, yeah, you could just fortune. You would just be like, I've got my period for three weeks this way.
Starting point is 00:13:46 Yeah, I'd be like, it never ends. What if this is somebody's first time hearing this show? Oh, gosh, oh, God. Send me to the red tent, is all I'm saying. Fortune loves a red tent. My fat husband with his beard and gross smelly body is trying to get near me and I'm like, it's that time. I have to go to the red tent.
Starting point is 00:14:11 And whenever Fortune's in her red tent, she always brings a little bush to put next to her. I bring this bush with me for the vibes. But yeah, anyway. Is that a plastic plant? Oh my God, it is? Fortune, please. You're blowing up my spot.
Starting point is 00:14:29 You're blowing up my spot. This is a fake plant. Do you have your period in that plant? Gross. Gross. Oh, I'm the gross one? I'm just talking about a tent. I don't even have my period anymore. You're both disgusting people.
Starting point is 00:14:46 Wait, Fortune, why do you have a plastic plant? I travel too much to keep this alive. Oh man. Think of it, May, as a plant that has been taxidermied. Okay. Now, do you understand now that we're speaking your taxidermy language? Just imagine that this plant has been stuffed.
Starting point is 00:15:07 I wasn't confused or lost. You're like, think of it this way. May, it's like this. It was a plant and now it's been stuffed. Also, it's fake. I just took, just took. Oh, all of a sudden there's a lawsuit. I'd love to be in that courtroom, by the way.
Starting point is 00:15:27 Yeah. I'm trying to circle back to say there are women that enjoy getting their period and they feel connected. They feel connected to being a woman. Right. And that makes them feel feminine and powerful. Yeah. And it makes me feel. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:18:26 Wait, what are you saying? You'd wanna be on your period strumming a horse? No, no, I'm like- Strumming a horse? Not in the red tent, you wanna be on a horse? Yeah, I'm like the equivalent, the thing that would make me feel very gender euphoric would be, I don't know, strumming my guitar on a horse.
Starting point is 00:18:40 Yeah, strumming my guitar. That would be an embarrassing moment, honestly. That's like the people that take the pictures, like a saxophone player that has like a sideways beret and they're leaning against a brick wall with their one foot up against the wall. Listen, let them live. They love, they see those pictures themselves.
Starting point is 00:19:01 They're like, I nailed it. That is me at my best. And that's what I'm saying is you strumming a guitar on a horse. I think I'm sitting side saddle too. I'm sitting side saddle with dainty cross legs. I was gonna say a little too femme, a little too femme to be side saddle.
Starting point is 00:19:18 Yeah, a little cowboy. I'm a, it's a complex and nuanced gender. Are you riding bareback? I'm riding bareback side saddle. That's what I love. Bareback side saddle strumming my guitar. Little cowboy. Yeah, shirtless, but wearing long dangly earrings.
Starting point is 00:19:33 On your period. On my period. On the horse. Bareback. Oh God. That poor horse. Poor horse. Again, welcome to your first episode of the Handsome Pod.
Starting point is 00:19:47 Chatting with friends on the Handsome Pod. Oh boy. Well, who else is talking about these things? I dare you to name one. I dare you. And you can't. Do you think a prosecutor in court has ever said to the jury,
Starting point is 00:20:04 I dare you to find my client guilty? I would think so, yeah. They would at least say to the jury, I dare you to find anyone else that's gonna prove what I've proven today. They're like, hey jury, truth or dare? Jury's like, dare? I was always reluctant to play truth or dare.
Starting point is 00:20:24 You were reluctant? Yeah, because I didn't have a lot of beans to spill anyway, but I didn't want to be dared. So if you said truth and they're like, Fortune, how come you always try to put lotion on us? I would just be like, and I wouldn't want to say back then because I'm a lesbian. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:42 So I would be like, dare, and then I wouldn't want to do the dare. Yeah. So wait, what do, dare, and then I wouldn't wanna do the dare. Yeah. So wait, what do you mean you didn't have a lot of beans to spill? Truth or dare, usually you're revealing some kind of deep dark secret, right? Yeah, or some spicy.
Starting point is 00:20:53 Right, you have no secrets. I don't have a lot, I'm sure I have some, sure, yeah, but I don't have a lot of spicy things. You wanna tell us a secret now in the pod? Oh, should I tell you guys a secret? Anything that you have never told anyone before in your entire life. Is this truth or dare right now?
Starting point is 00:21:09 Anything about your period? Any specifics about your period that you told? Mine's very short, only three days. Really? Really? I've never told anyone that. That's a secret. Jax doesn't even know? No, she knows.
Starting point is 00:21:22 Oh, no, she knows, okay. Three days, every 21 days though. Hey, that's very regular. Again, if this is your first episode. And May, how long is your period? Thomas, we don't know that. In total, it's stretching between four and five. Do you think we've lost any male fans?
Starting point is 00:21:43 There's nobody listening at this point. Do you think this point. What do you think the males are doing that are listening to this? Are you talking about baseball or something? I think people underestimate men and I think maybe there'd be some guys who are interested. There's gotta be a part of them that want to hear this. Oh my God, dudes wanna hear that fortune bleeds for three days.
Starting point is 00:22:03 Oh God. Every 21 days. Yeah, there's not a guy alive that doesn't want to know that Fortune, do you use Maxi pads, Fortune? We have to get off this topic. Yeah, we gotta move on. I refuse. Fortune's trying to distract us
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Starting point is 00:23:19 Colorado's poet laureate. Their most recent book is titled, You Better Be Lightning. My dear pal, Andrea Gibson is asking today's question. Hello, handsome pod. My name is Andrea Gibson, and my question for you is, how do you flirt? What are your unique flirting skills?
Starting point is 00:23:42 How do you woo your dream boats? What flirting moment in your life are you the most proud of? And was there ever a moment in your life where your flirting or somebody else's flirting went very, very wrong? I mean, this is right up my eye. I love this. You seem like you probably were a big flirt, alley. I love this. That's a question. You seem like you probably were a big flirt, May.
Starting point is 00:24:07 I think I still am probably. I feel like it's like a life force. I feel like I can guess you're flirting. Really? Yeah. Well, let's try it. What do you mean? Oh, you know when May's flirting?
Starting point is 00:24:20 I feel like I would picture May being like, hey, my period runs about five days. Oh my God. No, no, no. I think I, I don't know. I don't wanna like overanalyze it too much in case I lose my power. I think I go low status.
Starting point is 00:24:43 I imagine your flirting power is strong. Thank you. I think I go kind of low status, but then I flip the script. Like then I'll. Here's what I think you do. Go on, yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:24:58 Again, this is very visual today. Who should I be? You're the, I'm a bartender. You're the person I'm flirting. I'm May. Yeah. You're the person that I'm flirting with. Okay. Hey, what's up? Whoa. You were, wait a second. I'm just over here hanging out in the corner and I just felt some energy across the room and I just felt some energy across the room. And I just, I don't know, I felt compelled to come over here
Starting point is 00:25:30 and just really look you in the eye and... What is happening? Really fortunate. I just really wanted to connect because I just, I don't know, there's something about you that's really cool. I would call the police on this person. This is what you think I'm like?
Starting point is 00:25:47 Like Demir, kind of like, no eye contact. No way. No way, no. I'm like, let's play spin the bottle. Oh, you go right for it. I feel like it's a little bit of a D-shucks, aw-shucks. Let's play spin the bottle. I think, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:02 I feel like there's a wall of shucks in there. If an adult asked me to play spin the bottle? I think, yeah, I feel like there's a lot of jokes in there. If an adult asked me to play spin the bottle. Well, we all have our people I guess. I feel like I have parties in my twenties. When my cats are healthy, they're happy. And that makes me happy. But since I'm not a mind reader, I don't always know when they're unwell. Helping me keep tabs on my cat's health is just one reason I use Pretty Litter. Pretty Litter's ultra-absorbent crystals trap odor instantly. No more cat bathroom smell.
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Starting point is 00:28:40 Aw golly gee shucks. It's more like if I'm drawn to someone, I'll focus my attention really on them. Yeah. Like and- I imagine a lot of eye contact. Slightly prolonged eye contact, sure, sure. But I was with my friend the other night and we were like, we used to flirt a lot with each other and it was, and then we were out for dinner
Starting point is 00:29:04 and we were kind of like, isn't it funny? We can just choose not to, like not to turn on that switch of like spiciness. Like it actually, I think I got a lot of myself worth in the past from being like flirty and having people flirt with me and being like, that's. Yeah. And people being like, oh, Mae's a flirt or like there's this like, and now it's like, oh, I could just be like, oh, May's a flirt or like, yeah, this like, and and now it's like,
Starting point is 00:29:25 oh, I could just be like, oh, hey, how are you? I could just imagine in your single days, you were like a flirt machine. I didn't think of myself that way, but I definitely I love it. Like, I love well, it's more it's not even even with it doesn't have to be sexual even even with friends. I just love when someone you're in the group or something and then you connect with one person so hard and it's like Electric, you know. Mm-hmm I like when people trickles over there. Okay. I don't know what I like when people wink at me, that's what I can't handle. I love, because I can't effectively wink really coolly,
Starting point is 00:30:09 but if someone gives me a subtle wink across a room, I'm like on the floor. Wow. I like any attention really. So you enjoy the flirt. You like when people flirt with you, but you're not always, obviously right now in your life, but at another point in your life,
Starting point is 00:30:28 it didn't have to translate to anything. You just enjoyed the experience of flirting. I feel like, you know what it is? It's like, there was definitely a time in my life where multiple friendships had that energy and I had a lot of gray area friendships where we would sometimes hook up or we would at least like really,
Starting point is 00:30:47 that energy was there and flirt and it was like, or people I had been with. I don't care that people know I was one of those. Yeah, TIG was one of them. We would text late at night. It was just like every time we saw each other, it was like a friction. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:01 And then we just decided to turn it off before we started this podcast. Yeah, let's crazy. Friction, yeah, yeah. And then we just decided to turn it off before we started this podcast. Yeah, we were like, let's do a podcast. Yeah, let's just actually be calling. Do you still flirt now that you're in a relationship? Good question, T. Thank you, Fortune, I'll take it from here. I wonder if I do. I don't think that I do, but I probably,
Starting point is 00:31:21 only in the way that like, life is full of joy and connections and people. Yeah, what is flirty? Like I don't flirt in a way that. Well, you're not saying let's place them in the bottle, but you're like, you have nice eyes. No, or in any way that would indicate like this is gonna. Hey, take your shirt off. Hey. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:31:40 You guys think I'm a creeper. Never said creeper like that. All right, you don't talk like that, but it's fun to just. Never said creeper like that. All right, you don't talk like that, but it's fun to just, for us to talk like that. I've never said creeper. I think you both would be excellent flirts. And I'd be powerless. What do you think my flirting technique is?
Starting point is 00:31:56 I know exactly what it is. Oh yeah, do tigs. Tell me, why, because I flirted with you? You tigs, Mae. Well, first of all, because I've seen your documentary. So I've seen you flirting with Stephanie, like pre-even you guys being a thing. And it was like the most charming. Like it's, I feel like with maybe, I might be wrong, but I feel like if you're really flirting with someone, it's just like,
Starting point is 00:32:19 or I feel like it's like a director has said action and suddenly you're more alert, you're funnier, you're like, everything's like more vivid and heightened and you're like, you know what I mean? Where did you see me flirting in the documentary? What was I doing? I'm trying to remember like. Like smiling a lot when Stephanie was around? Yeah, when it's telling the love story
Starting point is 00:32:41 and it just, it shows you guys. It's a great doc. But I think you probably make fun of people a little bit, like in a in a. Oh, like a teasing of them. Yeah, yeah. And you'd be very good at that. Is that part of your flirting? Teasing? Yeah, I like to tease a little bit. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:58 Your biggest flirting, your biggest one was OK, Dyke. Yeah, there's probably a little subtlety to it. You know, with Stephanie, when I was really interested, I started texting her once a month. So that was me. What do you mean? Because y'all met on a movie, right? We did, we met on a movie and we started texting, but I don't know.
Starting point is 00:33:34 I just, I didn't think she was interested in me. So I didn't want to like go full throttle. But that was like a pretty big deal for you to be, like that's vulnerable to be texting once a month. Well, yeah, I really liked her. Yeah, right, right. But yeah, I think obviously humor and laughing and, I mean, I like teasing people just in general,
Starting point is 00:33:57 like in a friendly way. Yeah. And I like when they do it to me as well. And I think when people can deal with that. That's the best. You can dish it and take it. Yeah, I think it's, well, as long as, you know, to a certain degree.
Starting point is 00:34:13 Right, right. Fortune, I can imagine you being a good flirt. It's humor, right? I'm not, I really am not. So with Jax, how did you? Well, pre-Jax, I was like never, I never knew if someone was into me. I always assumed they weren't.
Starting point is 00:34:31 Well, I was, and so was Tic, and the ship has sailed. And Thomas, we were all chasing your skirt. That was part of my confidence, just having to build in general as a person. I just always kind of thought they were looking at the person behind me. And in LA, a lot of times they were indeed looking at the person behind me. Uh, cause LA was a tough place to date.
Starting point is 00:34:52 Um, and I, you know, put myself out there a few times and I, and got told no. And I was like, okay, good day. Um, and then sometimes it did work. Okay, good day. And then sometimes it did work. But it usually had to start as like, meeting them as a friend and letting it kind of getting to know each other in that way. But rarely was I like going up to someone like in a random place like, hello, what's your name? Like I could not. I had to just talk to people normal and real. And make a connection. I was always shocked if I found out they liked me. Yeah, I guess I feel similar to that.
Starting point is 00:35:31 I wasn't out picking up on people. So when I met Jax, it actually was kind of funny the way it worked out because I got a false sense of confidence out of nowhere. Um, she came up to me with a friend, a friend knew I was in wanted a picture. And so we took a picture and they went, they were nice, but went away and I was like, Oh man, that the blonde was very cute, but I just assumed they were together and didn't think anything about it. Well, the picture didn't turn out good or Jackson like herself in the picture or something, so they came back.
Starting point is 00:36:08 And then in my head, and I never thought this way, I was like, Oh, I think she, I think she likes me. And it gave me a false sense of confidence, which I never had with women. And it made me be bolder with her in a way that I never was with anyone. And so I took the picture and I let my arm linger for a while and we started chatting. We exchanged numbers. And-
Starting point is 00:36:35 Who asked for whose number? Old confidence pants. I think maybe me or it was kind of a both. We said it, but we kept running into each other all night. Did you say it at the same time? Like, could I get you to find her? And then you laughed together. Oh.
Starting point is 00:36:50 And the ultimate thing that happened that night, which was so out of character for me with a woman, is that she had this girl that was kind of flirting with her and would not leave her alone all night and I was having a hard time talking to her, getting to know her. And I had some friends that were like, let's get out of here because it was Pride weekend so it was crazy busy. And they were going to go to a bar away from the craziness.
Starting point is 00:37:19 And I walked up to her and again, when I tell you I've never done anything this bold or talk like this ever, I was always the goofball when it came to dating. I went up to Jack's and I said, my friends and I are going to another bar. I called an Uber. It's coming in five minutes. Are you coming or not? Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:37:42 I left. Wow. And I walked out. I've never done that. I left. Wow. And I walked out. I've never done that. Acted like that. I don't act like that. I don't know what came over me and she thought it was so attractive.
Starting point is 00:37:55 And the Uber pulls up. I'm sitting there. I open the door and she bolts out of the bar into the Uber. And I was like, it worked? Oh my God. Couldn't believe it. Couldn't believe it. Head to Los Angeles.
Starting point is 00:38:14 And that was the start of us hanging out all weekend. Wow. That's amazing. When did you have your first smooch? That night? Later that night. Later that night. That's gosh. Later that night. That's okay, don't worry about it. But I was so bold in a way that I just,
Starting point is 00:38:31 when I tell you I had no boldness in dating ever. And did you put the smooch move on her or did she put the smooch move on you? I think again that ended up being mutual. Mm. Oh, man. Wow. That was my most successful flirting, clearly.
Starting point is 00:38:48 I had plenty of unsuccessful ones where someone I thought they were flirting and then I asked them out and they're like, oh, no thank you. Oh my God. Okay. Oh my God. Sorry to bother you.
Starting point is 00:39:03 Okay, cool. I didn't know that that's how you met Jax. So it was through someone coming up asking for a photo. Kind of like I didn't know Parvati won Survivor. That's crazy. I swear I've said that. It was always tricky navigating flirting for me because I just am a friendly person. So I'm chatting with everyone, I'm talking with everyone.
Starting point is 00:39:26 So I never, I really never knew if someone was flirting with me or just being friendly back. So when I did like get that courage to ask some of these people out, and I only a couple of times I got a straight up no, but those were hard. Oh man, the worst. Oh wait, I totally misread that.
Starting point is 00:39:47 Then you have to go, wait, you thought I was serious when I just asked you out? I was joking. I was totally kidding. I'm a comedian. I'm totally kidding. Don't you know comedy? I was a late bloomer.
Starting point is 00:39:56 I came out at 25. I really didn't date for a while even after that. So it took me a long time to build that flirt confidence. Well yeah, I mean, you don't have that experience as a kid, you know, in your teen years, sometimes when you take a while to come out. And it's also equally, if not harder to reject somebody that's flirting.
Starting point is 00:40:20 Oh God, yeah. Yes, yeah, yeah. People are very forward with me sometimes. I'm sure I've said this, but like after shows and stuff, because I think I present as like very approachable or neurotic or something. Very sex positive, right? And like a little vulnerable or whatever,
Starting point is 00:40:37 so they come up and are sometimes so forward. And then that's awkward. Like they're saying things that if it was a guy saying that, you'd be like, I'm calling the police. Yeah. So many phone calls to the police during this episode. Boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop. And you're like, yeah, I am, that is a part of me
Starting point is 00:41:02 that doesn't necessarily mean I'm just, you know, doing whatever willy nilly. Yeah. Well, should we hear what Andrea has to say? Yes, definitely. I have so many answers for when my flirting went very wrong, but this one, I don't know if this is wrong or right. I'll share this one. So years ago, I had a crush on a woman named
Starting point is 00:41:25 Julie. And my therapist name is also Julie. So we were texting back and forth one night and I said, Hey, you have the same name as my therapist. I was wondering if I could come lay down on your couch sometime. That's cool. So proud of that. The text back said Um, I don't think this was meant for me. Oh no happened was I Accidentally sent the text to Julie my therapist What a good line, what a good line. That's a really good line. No, Andrea I feel like would have been in the pocket
Starting point is 00:42:11 because Andrea is a poet. And I feel like that's a good way to use for flirting, right? Not just a poet, one of the greatest poets walking the planet today. So Andrea has a leg up, like Cyrano de Bergerac or whatever, just language at their disposal. And an attractive person. I mean, a lot of things are hitting.
Starting point is 00:42:38 I saw Andrea do like spoken word kind of type thing, right? Is that what you would call it? Poetry. Before Ani DeFranco performance and it was like, holy cow. Were there any gay people in the audience that night? Every gay person got their ponies into tizzy over that. The words Andrea was using were so unbelievable and like powerful and poetic. And it was quite amazing to watch.
Starting point is 00:43:12 Yeah, I'm a big fan. And Andrea performance, prepare yourself. If you are listening, watching, seeing Andrea live, whatever, you will go on a roller coaster of, I always say Andrea is truly one of the funniest people and could easily be a standup comedian. So deeply funny and so deeply deep and moving. And you are just riding that wave as Andrea goes
Starting point is 00:43:46 and delivers it all. Yeah. And Andrea has an incredible partner, Meg, who is also a great poet and person and clearly. Then why is Andrea flirting with us on our pod? I have no idea. That's what I was about to get to. I think this is completely inappropriate.
Starting point is 00:44:03 Lay on our couch? Yeah. I would be curious to know if Andrea did eventually get that text to the right person and did it work? Yeah. And we didn't even really answer the flirting going wrong, did we? I did.
Starting point is 00:44:19 You guys haven't. So what you got? Yeah. Mine was just that I thought someone was flirting with me and I asked about it. They said, no. I don't have a good story other than, I think I said it on here once. I was like kind of flirting with someone. I thought we were both mutually flirting and that was heading somewhere.
Starting point is 00:44:40 And then she said, can I make you dinner? I said, yeah, this is amazing. I'm like, here we go. The start of things, someone making you dinner, that's very romantic. She informed me that she had feelings for someone and didn't want to pursue things, try things with me. And then she was like, should I still make dinner? And I was like, should I still make dinner? And I was like, well, and any like normal person
Starting point is 00:45:08 would have been like, no, I'm good. Like that's okay, thank you. And I was like, what were you gonna make? Oh my God. What were you gonna make? Tacos and I was like, well, I do like tacos. Oh my God. And I had true still made dinner.
Starting point is 00:45:24 So you sat there, I like tacos. Oh my God. And I and Drew still made dinner. Oh my. So you sat there eating tacos. And we never were officially dating, but it was like, we were headed, I thought we were headed towards trying maybe. Yeah. And I had just been given the kaput and she's still making me dinner.
Starting point is 00:45:46 Oh man, were you sad during the meal or did you think actually it will be fun? I think I wasn't sweating it too much. So clearly, I was fine, but it was like the least romantic dinner of my life. Yeah. I can't think of any specific, I'm pretty focused and targeted with like when I actually
Starting point is 00:46:08 pursue someone. Yeah, that I asked me to help carry her things out to her car one day. And I was like, oh yeah, sure. And carried it out to her car. And then when we were standing there, she was like, so, oh, I know what she said. She said, I don't mean to be like a Bill Clinton, Monica Lewinsky situation, but.
Starting point is 00:46:51 Oh my God. I just thought it was a good time to talk about the elephant in the room. And I was truly like, I was so confused. Yeah. Oh my God. Nothing clicked for me. I was like like, I was so confused. Yeah. Oh my God. Nothing clicked for me. I was like, what, what?
Starting point is 00:47:10 Oh my God. Baffled and that's awkward. She said that she had feelings for me. And were you into it? No. I was like, it doesn't appear so. This is not good then. I was not into her and I was so-
Starting point is 00:47:25 She's your boss. Well, yeah, but also I just, she was my boss. I wasn't into, I was so confused. And I was immediately like, get me out of this situation. I didn't even show up at work the next day. It was so uncomfortable, so uncomfortable. Was she embarrassed? I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:47:48 She used to call me from her car. She was married. Oh no. She used to call me from her car and she would say things like, oh, I have to do a speech. Can you help me with the joke or something? Yeah, I have to do a speech. You know, can you help me with the joke or something? Yeah, I have to do a speech.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Can you give me a bath? She would do things like that. And I thought that it was because I was a comedian. I was still an open mic comedian at the time. And I was like, yeah. And I thought we were kind of friends, you know? Yeah, yeah. And she continued to keep calling me.
Starting point is 00:48:27 Oh, well, all right. Oh my God. I didn't have caller ID at the time. Oh, I wonder who this is. Ugh. Well, this person sounds like chaos though. Like married, calling from the car, carrying the boxes, elephant, it's all adding up to.
Starting point is 00:48:47 But I truly, it was so weird because I don't know what was going on in her mind that she thought everything was so glaring that we were finally gonna talk about this. I have had that once before after I was opening for a band on tour and then at the end of the tour, the singer texted me and was like, are we gonna talk about this thing between us? And I was like for a band on tour and then at the end of the tour, the singer texted me and was like, are we going to talk about this thing between us? And I was like, what?
Starting point is 00:49:10 Yeah. And I this my old boss, I have run into her once or twice since. I mean, it's been like 25, almost 30 years. And is it awkward? Well, I truly have moments where I'm like, does she remember? Remember, yeah. She has to remember.
Starting point is 00:49:33 She has to. Yeah, she has to remember. But what does she think I think? Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I have, ugh. Anyway, that was so uncomfortable. I loved that story though. It's not fun.
Starting point is 00:49:48 Well, this has been a great time. Yes, it has. We've learned some new things. Wonderful question from the incredible Andrea Gibson. Check out, I think Andrea's got eight books. Wow. And Andrea's Instagram is so just. So on point.
Starting point is 00:50:10 I mean, I always, you know, people always say like, yeah, you need to be more present in life. And with Andrea, I'm like, when are you not present? Are you ever not present? Like Andrea's insights are just remarkable. So just follow everything. They do seem like an evolved type of person. Like another sort of, like we've made a genetic leap
Starting point is 00:50:35 or something as a speech. They're just one level up from us. Yeah. And the way their brain works and the connections that they're able to make. And yeah, I'm a big fan. Yes, same. Well, speaking of a big fan. Yes, same. Well, speaking of smart present.
Starting point is 00:50:48 Oh, there's our poet. There's our poet laureate. The handsome poet laureate. Yeah. Oh, Biggie. Oh, Biggie, Biggie, Biggie. Well, what a podcast, as always. As always.
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