Hate Watch with Devan Costa - The Juice Is Loose
Episode Date: April 15, 2024Joey points out the serial killer that broke into his apartment in a police lineup, Devan memorializes OJ Simpson after his untimely death https://www.patreon.com/HateWatchPodcast ...
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It's good to be in something from the ground floor. I came too late for that. I know
But lately I'm getting the feeling that I came in at the end
The best is over
Many Americans I think feel that way
I smell this so that was that was a mistake. God. It's got some buzz balls here
They look delicious. This is for like alcoholics that like the they take baths and they think it's a bath bomb
You guys overreacted it texture kind of
Little box some puberty
You tasted I don't want it
Kind of tasty take a little sip
What a for Vietnam that saw Devon with any thought it was a grenade and shot him in the head pretty wild Yeah, do what if that happened?
Insane what is that? Have they be crazy? Oh my god
We'll talk about it most of the episode folks, but first off rest in peace or in fault James Simpson. Yeah
episode folks but first off rest in peace or in fault James Simpson yeah that of broken heart bright died of a broken heart dude losing your wife that's
it does it it has an effect on people years but he really yeah I'm to it yeah
he was fucking fast as hell he was great in those naked-gun movies physical
comedy and but he had a bit of a temper no I don't know about that I think you
know he was so good in the naked-gun movies I think whatever happened that
night was like a pratfall it was that. I think, you know, he was so good in the Naked Gun movies. I think whatever happened that night,
it was like a prat fall.
It was just like, he slipped.
I think he stayed in character, yeah.
I think he was making steaks, he was holding the knife,
he was chopping, he was cutting the steaks up,
then he slipped and shit.
Try to do a Jerry Lewis act out,
but he like cut her head off.
But, you know, anyway, we'll move on,
we'll get back to that.
Joey, we have some incredible news about
The guy that incredible well, it's the the serial killer
We now know actually I think the that guy that broke into your place was the serial killer
So I used to be 95% sure that it was him just based on the location and all the facts
And I saw his face, and then I there's pictures of the serial killer online. Like they looked extremely similar.
So that's 95% sure.
My detective finally got back to me on the 10th.
My detective.
And she said, hey, she called me.
What she look like, dude?
I've never met her, but.
What?
No, she wasn't there at the station, I'll tell her.
What an asshole.
So she's a grade three detective. What's a grade three? They are senior detectives who assign other detectives
like actual detectives to cases. So if somebody gets killed in your district
then you're the one. He's like Rodriguez you're on that. Sure exactly. But she
calls me while I was at the cafe working and she just said hey could you come
down to the station and I was like playing it cool. I was like, oh, I don't know if I have time in my head
I'm like, I was so fucking have I was like GF court
This is my dream oh gee
I'm so excited about we yeah, and then but so I just said like ah, I mean this kind of short notice
But wait, I'll come down right now. And then so I went to the station. You go. Hey, I mean, this is kind of short notice, but I'll come down right now.
And then, so I went to the station.
You go, hey, I'm not a loser,
but I'll be there right away.
I have a lot going on.
I don't have a morbid curiosity.
I don't watch murder footage.
You get it.
You go, yeah, give me one second.
Let me just tell these Filipinas I'll be back.
But so, I go to the station. by the way have you been to the,
what's the last time you drove by the station on 6th Street?
On 6th Street?
The, yeah, the central.
A lot.
The central division.
On 1st?
No, 6th.
There's a few divisions.
The HQ is on 1st, on 6th is like the central.
I drive by them here and there.
But so.
I bring them donuts, I like to say hi. I love what they do, I love But so. I bring him donuts, I like to say hi.
I love what they do, I love their work.
Yeah, I call the cop just to say hi.
Yeah.
Just, oh, you don't want one?
You just go, hey.
Hey, how you guys doing?
I give him lemonade.
Hey guys, you guys need anything?
I give him a tin foil plate.
It's been in the oven all day for you.
Carl is a Blue Lives Matter guy.
We all are.
Yeah, we are, yeah, that's a Blue Lives podcast.
I like detectives, I'm not blue.
I love the cops. I love the police. I love me
Yeah, I think they're cool. I love them so much because they also they helped oj they botched the whole thing
Furman all of them. I was looking for
Contaminating the evidence they were just a bunch of bumbling idiots the Keystone cop showed up and they helped oj get off anyway back
To the you there was a serial killer in your home.
So my detective goes, go to the station,
to your left, there's a whole wing for detectives.
Just walk into the wing.
It is crazy, the podcast has allowed us
to not really think about how crazy that is.
Yeah.
There was a serial killer in 99%
Place I would like to hear people's take on this if you are affiliated with law enforcement Or if you know if you're maybe you you work for like a DA a local DA and you understand how these
Investigations go please tell me cuz I'm confused about part of this so anyways get the station go to my left the detective way
Yeah, yeah, I get there and like some dudes just like what do you hear for?
I'm like my detective told me to come at 11. I'm you know, it's 50 minutes late
I was like, hey, where's my tech and he goes well, she is actually not gonna be available
She's got called into like a serious thing
That my grade 3 got called away and then but my but my mate, the actual Detective Omni-K is
comes out and he seemed excited.
He was like, not excited, but he seemed like.
Oh, they're, yeah, they're, they're.
He seemed like, oh, I kind of want to see, you know,
what happens here.
He seemed like he was interested in what I could say.
Of course, of course.
So then he brings me into this room and he sits me down
and he explains the process.
I'm going to show you a lineup of pictures of criminals.
And I want you to pick the guy that you saw in your apartment.
It was like NWA and then Jared Powell.
It was five Chinese men and Jared Powell.
And that was all black dudes.
But the weird part was one of the black dudes.
It was the COVID guy at the end of the bed.
That was one of the pictures. With it was the COVID guy at the end of the bed that was one of the pictures.
With his cock out, the COVID guy.
Joey's, Joey sees the line and he goes, it's all of them actually.
Can we put him all in jail?
A bunch of confetti comes from the ceiling.
But no, so I look at the pictures, and one of them is obviously Jared Powell.
Yeah.
Not like the guy, I don't know for sure.
The serial killer.
Right, but here's the thing.
So I don't know if they-
One of them was obviously him, same face.
It was Jared Powell in the picture.
Yeah.
So I don't know, so here's my thinking is like,
would there ever be a situation
where a detective would show somebody a lineup
Where the guy suspected of the crime that happened to them is not in the lineup at all. I
Think they do so like so
Like cuz they know you psychologically want it to be right Jared, but then so what they why what does that prove though?
They're like, I'm just gonna pick Jared Powell. I don't I mean they listen they're willing to put any black guy they go. Hmm. So he's racist
So we offer a job or I bet Denzel Washington and Sam Jackson were in the lineup, too
This one they're like it was Digimon Hanzu
But so I picked the guy and then I was sitting there confused because I've now
online seen pictures of Jerropow who's become like a famous guy in L.A.
So I circled Jerropow and then I'm sitting there
and I'm just like, can I ask you a question to the detective?
And I was like, was that guy in the picture?
Was that Jerropow?
And he's like, well, we can't really say.
We don't.
We can't say.
Yeah.
And then he goes, that's no, he goes by J-Dog.
Yeah.
You talking about JP?
He goes, Powell?
Well, his street name was J-Dog.
But then so I, he's being vague.
And there are a lot of good reasons
why they can't share information on the case.
So I understand.
So I try to give them another question.
They're just being cocksuckers.
There's no good reason.
What's the reason?
I could like hurt the investigation or something.
How?
Well, what do you go do after this?
I could tell, I could go on a fucking podcast.
And do what? I could tell I could go on a fucking podcast
And do what and reveal all this information
About the bad the investigation that'd be who would do that on me
I'm like even though I signed a piece of paper that said I would never talk about this
Is he really signed a paper? Yeah. Jesus Christ.
Listen.
I enjoy the legend.
If these guys wanna play hardball
and they're not gonna bring me into the investigation.
Either bring me into the investigation or keep me out.
Yeah.
But you can't make me sign stuff
and then have best, you know, best both worlds for you.
Yeah.
Bring you into the investigation.
That's true.
They can't use him for help.
They can't have their cake and eat it too.
She always like Dan Bell's area in the Mandalay Bay shooting right now.
He's like give me the gun. I'm on the case.
It was my birthday and I was thinking about going like hey guys can I have a badge?
Can I wear a badge for just this?
It's my birthday.
And then, but so I go, my second less obvious question,
where I was like, I'm gonna make this less specific
so that you could, if you wanted to,
you could hint at the truth without actually being liable.
So I was like, do you, okay, let me ask you this.
Do you suspect the man in the picture
is associated with any other crimes?
And he was, and then he sat there
and he was all fucking flustered. The guy was like stuttering and muttering the entire time yeah they're idiots
these guys and right oh right away he could tell that I was like testing him
because the first thing I said to him he brings I meet him I shake his hand I'm
like and he's like hi I'm the detective on your case and I said oh are you
investigating the home invasion because I wanted him to be like,
no I'm investigating the homicides.
You know what I mean?
Dude it's all that chess you're playing.
Exactly, I'm playing chess with him.
So they-
3D chess.
So he like fucking gets all flustered.
He's like, uh, let me go check the files.
He goes, let me check the files.
He wouldn't even just answer that.
He goes, oh, I'm getting stressed out.
He just kills a black guy.
It's like a stress ball to him.
Where's a neck?
Is there a neck around?
Is there a black neck?
My knees are like black right now.
Get this tension in my knee.
OK, I feel better.
I feel better.
What'd you say?
What'd you ask?
Veins are popping out of his neck.
Feels like Dennis Reynolds.
His eyes are like, and I'm back, what was your question?
So he goes, he like gets flustered, walks away,
then he comes back with a big stack of papers
and he goes, oh, this is what I'm investigating this year.
And the top page is like, breaking stuff.
But, and then I was like, that's a big stack.
What else is in that stack? But he wouldn't let me touch it. So I'm like, that's a big stack. What else is in that stack?
But he wouldn't let me touch it.
So I'm like, this is fucking weird.
And then later on I asked this sort of question,
like, is he a, states for other crimes?
And he's like, he goes, well, I know who you think is.
Oh my God.
He starts doing this.
He goes, never have I ever.
Well, I know who you think the criminal is and the guy who you think it is
Committed for murders does he know that that this was in the news that we all know
He's through the great Jared Powell is
He was trying to pull like do a poker face kind of thing
I don't really I would love if we had somebody that listened or if you listen to this pod and you know
Somebody who's a detective or something? Yeah, I don't understand why they're being so weird with you
Come on reddit or like message me and try to explain what you think about this like they should they should feel or
Why what like like you you you you're you're owed knowing you you deserve to know whether
because what if you think that guy's still out there you want to know if the guy is i said that
too i said that was the next thing after his like weird answer i go how about this could you tell me
if you know for a fact that it's not him, because for peace of mind.
Because if I know, you know, then I'm worried about,
I need security measures because he might come back.
Right, because you tell him, you go,
listen, I was rather nice to him.
The guy might think he has a place to stay at this point.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, he left through the front door.
I let him leave through the front door.
He broke in and I let him leave through the front door.
He used my restroom.
What if he just claimed squatter's rights and just stayed?
He kills you then claims squatter's rights.
No, he just was my roommate now and he refused to leave.
Every night at like 3 a.m. he goes,
I'm going out to Skid Row, just don't even worry about it.
Or he kills Joey.
Comes back covered in blood.
Or he kills Joey, wears his skin, learns his schedule,
we go to the gym with this guy every single day
Oh my what if it's me?
Grow like seven inches
Maybe that's why I bench more than Connor cuz I'm JP
We had a big debate on the last patreon about like oh like 225 and
He hit it and then he did do it and then kind of tried
Oh, he did it Connor. Did you see what Connor? We have it in Devin. He tried it nine
So I thought he did. Oh never he didn't do it. I got Connors honest cuz he could have just fucking
Pretty close
Giving you props no no I had to had to do but but that's Evan over here's RPG Ruth Bader Ginsburg
He's with a two pound weight
It's true, but you know I'm not shitting blood like you are every day. Oh, I shot glass of blood
Joey told us the other day. He's shitting shot glasses of blood. That's actually not it so casually
We were like what and then the rest of it
I was like I was worried about you
I was incredibly worried and then I thought both of you and you guys are like no idea I shit blood too
Bleed because I'm on the toilet constantly because I'm an alcoholic and I'm shitting my brains out 24 seven and sometimes your asshole rips from shitting.
Yeah, dumb ass.
Live a little bit retard.
Never take a shit before, pal.
I literally text, I text Connor and Devin separately
and I'm like worried about you.
I'm like, what's going on?
And Connor's like, no, I shit blood too.
And I text Devin, Devin's like, sometimes I wipe
and I find blood on the toilet paper and shit.
Yes, that's, your asshole is ripping.
No, that doesn't, I shit more than all of you.
I know, I'm actually, of all people here,
I'm surprised you're not just free-weeding.
Yeah, you don't even know what we're talking about.
I'm surprised you're like a 13 year old
who just got her period for the first time.
I haven't, I haven't.
You're just leaking blood constantly.
I've had big hemorrhoids too, dude.
Yeah, me too.
Like popcorn hemorrhoids.
I have hemorrhoids.
Same. I have one. I have one hemorrhoid,. Yeah me too like popcorn. I have hemorrhoids that I've won. I've won. I've won hemorrhoid
I've named it. What's its name?
Rufus. Jared Bell. It's Jared Bell
No, but I don't like you pretending you don't know about ass blood. I've had ass blood in my life
Okay, so shut the fuck up. But you're acting like it's a normal thing. We're not. It's pretty normal. Here's what's not normal
It's not normal for Joey to say what he said.
A shot glass is crazy. A shot glass is crazy. That's insane. I picture, I picture. Yeah,
I'm drinking the water and it's like, it's spider webbing. Are you lying? I'm not kidding.
It actually does. Are you lying? The water is red. Like it's, and when I, when I, is
there like more viscous blood and then more like, is it like, no, it just looks like, like it looks like if you cut your palm and just let it like drip in the toilet.
What if Jared Powell turned into Osmosis Jones and he's in your asshole and you just keep
shooting your hemorrhoids. He's like, where's Skid Row with this body to my asshole.
He's like, where's Skid Row with this body? It's my asshole.
Ah!
Ah!
Ah!
Ah!
Ah!
Ah!
But by the way, that stopped, dude.
That stopped, but when it was happening,
when it was happening, you know.
More like Skid Mark Row.
Oh, very good.
Very good.
Hey!
Hey, what if this was a grenade?
Hey!
Hey!
Hey!
Very good!
Dude, we're like a Vietnam Vengeance,
came in here and fucking shot Devan
in the fucking head,
because I saw this grenade.
Dude, we're fucking brilliant.
Subscribe to the Patreon you're a patron
Podcast yeah, these are only free for so long
After a while we put them behind the wall, but I know so we got to get finished that pal for yes
I don't know hang on though. I will this is crazy
I would wipe and there it was it would it looks like you take toilet paper, and you dipped it in red paint
It would be dripping blood.
You keep saying this so casually.
That's insane.
I'm not queasy about this kind of stuff.
I need you to take a photo next time and send it to me.
Yeah, I wanted to, but I was like, that's crazy.
No, no, I'm getting you permission.
I wouldn't give a shit.
Did it stop?
Yeah, it stopped.
Okay.
And I bought a squatty potty and it's smooth.
I've been eating fibers. That's the angle of your ass ass I'm thinking smooth shit dude, I mean right I can't
I can't shoot without a squatty potty at this point. I just I've been
Road to go down
Shit that's what no people have it right.
No, they're fucking weirdos, dude.
They shit in holes in the ground.
Either way.
That's what men were doing before fucking,
they were civilized.
Yeah, before they were civilized
and they had seats. Asian people.
Yeah, believe them.
Yeah.
Dude, I'm just saying, every time I go backpacking,
that's the most efficient shit I've ever taken
in my entire life.
With your knees up?
Yeah, with your knees up, you squat down.
Yeah, but then you become the cocksucker
that everywhere you are, you like,
can't take a normal shit. No, you can't, you have to. I can, but it you become the cocksucker that everywhere you are you like can't take a normal shit
You can see I can but it's not as easy not ideal
Yeah, my body's getting set up now my buddy's used to the squatting position. I bet it is dude this contraption
Just cured an internal bleed of mine. I will not have one dead world. Will you stop using it now that's cured
No, no, I fuck it. You got a squatty potty around your neck, like a neck pillow on a plane.
You're like traveling.
I'm just saying, man, once I get enough money,
I'm gonna make a Chinese toilet.
I have a little suitcase.
You have a suitcase.
It's like a handle that you can put on your squatty potty.
I take great shit.
I don't know.
I've been around a lot of households that have them.
My mom used to have one when I was growing up. Yours is annoying. I'm like, I don't know. I've been around a lot of households that have them. My mom used to have one when I was growing up
And I'm like I'm like I don't get it. Yeah, I mean like get this fucking booster seat away from the toilet
Start shooting a shot glass worth of blood and then you'll fucking-
Well that's your own issue. You keep doing bang-bangs
You're upset you get pizza and ramen in this it within a 20 minute span
You're shitting blood because your asshole's being ripped wide open
by like, I'm sure like those shits that feel like knives
coming out of your ass.
No, it doesn't hurt.
It's a tequila.
It doesn't hurt at all.
There's no pain when it happens.
I really?
Well, there's no like nerve endings
in your fucking asshole that deep.
You know what I mean?
Not worth it.
Your boyfriend wore them all out.
Okay.
Last thing on this is that I also
I love when you do things like that.
Last thing I'm gonna talk about with my asshole.
Is so I was saying like roughly
a shot glass per shit.
Of blood.
Is that true? That makes no sense.
I'll take a picture. If it ever happens again, God forbid.
I hope it doesn't. But I'll take a picture
and everybody will be shocked.
They'll say, he, it's more than a shot glass.
He was underestimating, but,
What the fuck?
But then I looked it up, you know how much blood
you could lose before you actually die?
Two pints.
Oh, before you lose conscious.
64 ounces.
Before you lose conscious.
64 ounces, so I could take, I could do 64 of that
in one day and still live.
It's not an ounce, there's no way. I think you're one day. And still live. It's not, it's not now, just no way.
I think you're complaining because the tissue absorbs it.
It also depends on size.
Tissue absorb it and also you drop any,
you drop any blood in water, it's gonna look,
it's gonna look like more than it actually is.
Oh, I like how Joey's logic here is he's planning
on this happening like all the time.
He's like, I'm fucking, I'm golden.
He goes, I'm fucking clear.
I need to be doing that 64 times a day to die, retard.
The cancer will eat my brain, but listen.
He goes, yeah, it's once a day.
Shot glass full of blood from my ass.
It's like the movie Speed where instead of staying
under 80 miles per hour, it's like,
I have to stay under 64 shits.
Dude, which at my rate would be nearly impossible.
That 64 shits is like maybe a week for me.
No, I'm talking about, I could do that in one day.
I could, no, 64 in one day to kill me.
Oh, got it, got it, got it.
But guys, where did I leave off on pal?
Oh, dude, trick questions and stuff.
And then so I said like, can you tell me that
if it's not him?
And he goes like, he was like all skittish again
And he goes well, you know, it's like proving a negative, you know, you can't really do that
Also, you can though if you know where Powell was on the day where the crime happened to me
You can prove that that it wasn't him you could rule out
So it's just like oh, yeah sure and I gave a break and we'll have but so listen
I now am 99% sure it was JP in my apartment.
Please, if you know, thank you.
I 100% think so too now.
If you guys saw his face,
you'd be like even more confident.
But again, if you're an expert on this stuff,
or if you know somebody that you could ask,
please ask and get their opinion,
because I'm a little bit confused still on why they would,
if that would ever happen,
that they would show me a lineup without
The criminal and then why show me one with the killer? I that's it anyways because he's obviously the guy
Yeah, he was obviously he he was invading, but he would break into places
Yes, final kill was a breaking and entering think about how rare a break-in is in the first place
And then you find out that right down the street. There was a serial killer that also broke other places. It's not racist. I'm not saying like oh, they all you know
It was black guy and that was a black guy
same exact build same exact height same very similar looking weight and
The face is almost identical according to like what I saw you know mask like on his chin
Yeah, but I was like God wait in I saw. He had a mask on his chin, but I was like, God damn.
Wait, in the picture he had a mask on his chin?
No, no, no, when I saw it in my apartment.
Yeah.
But anyways.
No, by the way, I told my father-in-law this story
three times before he could grasp what I was telling him.
I was like, no, no, the guy climbed over the balcony
into my friend's apartment,
and my friend was just in bed.
It sounds like bullshit. And he was like, wait, so your friend wasn't home? I'm like, I and my friend was just in bed. It sounds like bullshit.
And he was like, wait, so your friend wasn't home?
I'm like, I just said he was home in bed.
They're like, okay, so this is security footage?
I'm like, no, he was inside his apartment,
they locked eyes.
He goes, this is your friend?
And I'm like, yeah, man, it's crazy.
People can't fathom a home invasion.
Until I fucking do it, too.
Until I do it.
No, it's true though, like it's a crazy thought,
but like Joey just is Joey, so Joey's casually
shitting like two liters of blood a day.
He stabs you like I could 64 more of those.
He's watching people break into his place
and he's just like who gives a shit.
He's like, he looks at the guy, he goes like help yourself,
he's like ordering Postmates.
Joey's like an anomaly here. The fact that happened to Joey's the reason he's alive because Joey's Joey
Yeah, if it was anybody else that was like
Right in the head, but instead he was like this guy
This guy is will be me some I will say the detective the one time
He seemed like he was like hey, this guy's pretty cool. He was like so wait the guy he was you were at home
Right. Yeah, and he's like see you like what he's like kind of trying to suss out if I was scared or what?
Yeah, he's like so you confronted him and I was like now it's like I was laying my bed
I'm like I looked at him. He just took off
They had to explain that I just stayed in bed and my friend made convinced me to call the cops
You're kind of sick brother. I think I think you've got a lawsuit on your hands. You definitely
Sue your apartment apartment fuck them dude, and then you'll get so much fucking give you the TV that you broke dude
Put it in the last like a bonus
Yeah, you can you can you can knock off this much money if you give me that fucking T.V.
And that dog statue you cocked something.
You go, give me T.T.
I want that statue.
I want my own statue, exactly.
But he goes, and then I said,
well, okay, so I'll let you guys get back to work and stuff,
but if I hear back about this ever, when will it be?
And he goes, the DA would be contacting you.
Do the DA himself?
Or like whatever, I don't know.
He just kicks ass.
Yeah, no, I'm like me and like Commissioner Gordon
are doing biz on a rooftop.
But then so.
It's a bad signal, but it's a shot glass full of blood.
Shining on the night sky. Joe's like, they need me.
But so, and then, because they'd want me to,
if I ever find out he's saying it's because
they'd want me to be a witness in the trial.
Oh, that's gonna be so great.
I would love that if that happens.
I'm gonna fucking put a lavalier mic on you.
Can we- We can you. Can we go?
Yeah, we can go watch it.
The best would be if like the...
Can we film it though?
What if the defense...
No, no, no, no, no.
Well sometimes they film, it's...
Well, Jace do courtroom sketches.
Sometimes they do film though,
like the actual court films.
Yeah.
Like that's why the Coburger shit's all on TV.
That'd be pretty incredible if we get to go to that and then we just splice in the actual court films. Yeah. Like that's why the Coburger shit's all on TV. That'd be pretty incredible if we get to go to that
and then we just splice in the actual court footage
and then in between, like if we get to dismiss
for like a break, we go record really quickly.
Yeah.
In the bathroom.
Yeah, in the bathroom.
We're like, dude, he fucking did it.
He's gonna kill Joey.
If he ever escapes, he's gonna fucking slit Joey's
fucking throat and kill him.
If they try to stop you filming, you're 1A.
1A.
It's a public place but um
Captain Jack comes with us
It's fucking it's him
We should fill the courtroom with every hate watch and yeah, it'll be great. Yeah, by the way speaking of hate watch stuff
spots the butler he
He's losing his mind.
What happened?
What'd he do?
He sent me a video the other night of,
he goes, good hate watch material,
and I click the video, it's a guy walking into a liquor store
and getting shot like 40 times.
He's like, like a snuff film, like brutality to the max, like something that we could never ever watch
that I felt horrible for having just watched.
The guy's yelling on the ground like, God!
And he's dead and the guy's still unloading and his legs are moving and shit.
And I go, haha, yeah, we can't watch this.
And then the next day he goes, yeah, I was drunk.
I just accept that.
Spats is like, hey man, great, hate watch material.
It's the opening scene from RoboCop.
Dude, I'm not kidding.
It was like, it was insane.
That's the thing with butlers is that you see them.
You see them on the job and they have the tux on.
But who knows what's going on inside that.
When they're off the clock they're up to no good.
You see how buttoned up he is.
He's so buttoned up and he's fucking full of rage because he's holding it together because
it's his job.
He loves Liz.
He's got to be calm and tempered.
I love Spots.
I miss Spots.
Is there a new one?
Oh yeah.
I love Spots.
I bought that on the walk home from the station.
What was that beep? Is that the thing? No, no. That wasn't that. Yeah, it's a new one. Oh, yeah, I love spots. I bought them to walk home from the station
It is was a beep is that the thing no that wasn't that is it beeping that's crazy
It's never be I've never heard it beep. What is that for black people? It's like a smoke alarm with no battery. Why is it got the predator readout?
It'd be that was an age detector
Well, you got me there.
Pretty good stuff. Pretty good stuff.
Pretty good stuff.
Pretty good stuff.
Anyway man, I don't know,
I honestly the other day when I woke up
and I looked at my phone and ESPN sent me a message
and it said OJ Simpson's dead at 76.
I personally don't wanna talk about that.
Literally, okay, I'm not even kidding.
There's no humor in this.
I got, like my heart sunk for a second, I got sad.
Cause he's been so unkillable for so long.
Well we also were like a little too young
for the actual OJ trial. So we only had this like we know about it
We didn't live that and since then all we known is the home invasion thing and then him being hilarious on Twitter
Yeah, not a home invasion. He invaded a hotel room. He stole my ability back
Why do you relax okay, I really will defend the the fuck out of him. I know a lot about it, I know a lot about it.
So much so that I'm worried that you guys
will be like out of the loop.
I think Joey might be the only one that can keep up.
I might be out of the loop.
But it's, he provided America,
the great Orenthal James Simpson,
provided America with the greatest story of all time.
And I think the forbidden N-word,
which was a part of the trial a lot,
which is Nicole Brown Simpson.
Nicole should feel proud in the afterlife
as should Ron Goldman because they were almost,
they were like Jesus figures because they needed to die
to sacrifice themselves for the sake of entertainment purposes. There are martyrs
Really would you guys rather have not had the OJ trial? Yeah
I'm pretty in different, but I'm pretty, I'm pretty, I'm pretty indifferent to it.
But I'm not thankful for it by any means.
It was like one network series.
You are a liar.
Well you guys are frauds.
Here's the thing most people don't understand, okay?
OJ, okay, okay, OJ was a man of God.
He didn't like cheaters.
And Nicole cheated on him with Marcus Allen
and many others and
And Ron Goldman
Listen OJ was very pro-palestine
Yeah, and
He they got in a little tiff if you get into a karate stance
You over there or in fault you're gonna get your head chopped off.
Listen, listen, who are you to be bringing back
my fucking wife her fucking credit card, okay?
Yeah, that right.
And at the end of the day,
we don't even know he did it, honestly.
We really don't know he did it.
I've heard theory.
Well there's a theory, but it's his son doing it.
His son, Nicole was a drug addict,
and she owed a lot of bad people a lot of money.
And there was also a serial killer in the area at the time,
the happy face killer.
People have seen a white van out front, God knows.
God really, really, it's only God knows at this point.
You were around, you know?
I was around.
No, I'm kidding, but like seriously,
the OG trial was so unbelievable
when it's all said and done, you almost go like,
yeah, this had to happen in a weird way.
And I know I brought it up in a really callous way,
but like, it's much like when you hear the Beatles.
A cultural phenomenon.
You hear the Beatles.
It's Shakespearean.
You hear the Beatles for the first time and you go,
yeah, of course this is music.
Of course, like you go, wasn't this already here?
Weren't the Beatles like, you hear the,
when you hear the Beatles, you go,
yeah, I already know this.
Like I heard this in the ether.
I was in the womb hearing the Beatles.
When you, when you, when you were born,
you find out about the OJ trial, you go,
oh, of course this was a thing.
This was just life.
This is a mountain.
This is the Grand Canyon.
This is already supposed to be.
And I'm saying that Nicole and Ron,
rest in peace, it's absolutely brutal.
I don't believe you when you say that.
No, I believe it, because I do have sympathy for them,
but I'm just saying, if they were to know the-
So sincere.
No, he's pulling it back,
because we pushed back for a second.
Devin, five minutes ago,
it said, rest in piss, Nicole Brown Simpson.
If they were to know how entertaining
and contentious the aftermath was
and what it meant to this country.
They would have sacrificed themselves.
And how many people had ate pizza and watched that trial.
If they were to know that he was gonna get
in the white Bronco and try to run off
and all the things that happened,
you kinda gotta go like, I don't know.
You know, you start wondering if people even really exist
and you go, maybe they were just meant to be pawns.
This in a game, they were pawns in a game.
Because if the OG story never happened,
life is so bland.
It's like, who wants to, what are we, If the OJ story never happened, life is so bland.
It's like who wants to, what are we, are we eating unseasoned food for the rest of our lives?
It was unbelievable.
It's the greatest thing to ever happen
in the history of this country is the OJ Simpson trial.
And it couldn't have happened
unless OJ slipped with a knife one day.
Would you rather have OJ Simpson trial or 9-11?
Yeah.
OJ Simpson trial.
9-11 is annoying.
9-11 kick ass.
9-11 gave a bunch of fucking retards,
just a bunch of conspiracy ammo and shit.
I get it, it is, it's all fake.
9-11 was fake and all that.
But like,
but I'm saying your argument's whole like, your argument's cultural impact and I think 9-11 has was fake and all that but like But I'm saying your argument is all like way more interesting your arguments cultural impact and I think 9-eleven is way more
There's way bigger cultural impact things. Yeah
Storytelling that was talking about story. I love story. Yeah, it is Shakespeare and there's like a murder of something everybody's talking about
I love development you got OJ. He's part of it. No one scandal
OJ OJ now would be like, if LeBron killed his wife.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Or like, not actually his wife's wife,
it would be, it's different,
because it was a white woman.
Racial element.
It would be like if LeBron killed Amy Schumer
on the set of Trainwreck,
but then actually everyone would just like
give him an award.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They wouldn't even go to trial.
They'd just be like, hey, thank you for that.
Furman's like, hey, let me botch another one, huh?
What do you?
I just I really don't think you guys understand how absolutely
astonishing the OJ case was and how much
how it came from the from the racial tension in L.A.
It encapsulated Los Angeles in one trial.
It was the it was it was it was the embodiment of Los Angeles.
That could only happen.
I was living in South Dakota at the time.
I would walk upstairs.
What year was it, by the way?
Well, he went on the run June 12th, 1994.
I forget when he killed her.
But June 12th, 1994.
So I was about a month old.
I was born in 89.
I was two years old.
And I remember the riots, by the way.
Yeah, right, you remember the riots.
You remember the riots?
No, I don't, but I remember my mom talking.
I remember my mom talking about the riots
and driving through all these crazy things happening.
And I go, thank God for that too.
Thank God for the riots.
It's beautiful.
These things need to happen.
You can only come, listen,
a fire has to start for a rebirth. Mm-hmm
Somebody has to die and then their body gets turned it gets like a Phoenix goes into the soil and then a beautiful flower
Comes from it. Yeah
Unfortunately some crazy things need to happen. I'm calibration. I
Understand what you're saying, but I'm not relishing in the
Either but their afterthought I don't death of a man. That's all I'm saying. I am not either, but they're afterthoughts
at this point, Connor.
But I don't think that's true.
It's accelerationism.
I think you have a blood lust.
It's horrible, I understand, you're pro-white.
You hate women, you hate women, you hate Jews.
I love black people.
I love murder.
People don't know this about me.
I was actually juror number six on the OJ trial,
and I was the guy when they acquitted him
that raised his hand doing the black power fist, and they found out that I was the guy when they acquitted him that raised his hand doing the black power fist,
and they found out that I was actually
a Black Panther at one point.
I used to hang out with a fiendish occur.
You are dressed like a Black Panther right now.
Bobby Seale.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I stand with the black community, I always have.
You would titty-fuck Dan Schneider in the day.
Hey, listen, there's, listen, I always have and You're a titty fuck Dan Schneider
Listen did the the prosecution botched the botched the case
You know and so at the end of the day
You're innocent till proven guilty. He was not proven guilty and OJ. You know like dr. Umar says you know he didn't do it
If you want to blame if you want to get mad at somebody, get mad at the justice system. Get mad at the justice system? I'm not mad at anybody. You want to argue with God's fate? I mean,
this is he... Connor's not being honest. You'd rather have a waiter be alive than have
the OJ- No, I didn't say that.
No, it's nonsense. I mean, I didn't say that.
That's what you're acting like. No, no.
A lot of people acting like we're not doing a comedy show here.
It's time to lean in and be excited about OJ.
Sorry, forgive me, my mind is elsewhere.
Alright, listen, Satan collected his memorabilia yesterday.
He was the creation of Lucifer. Yeah. We the people of hell find the defendant, Ornithal James Simpson, welcome.
He was an avenging angels.
I'm just saying, man, that people, everyone needs to check out the Made in America documentary
by the great, what's his name, Ezra Edelman, I think.
I've also watched very little OJ media.
Once you do, you'll understand where I'm coming from.
Yeah, I didn't even watch the American crime story.
It was the, it's an unbelievable timeline.
It's a Pandora's box.
It's like that movie, it's like once you're aware of it.
John, are you in a third tall, like fucking relax.
No. They're not even helping you speak. You still stink this week too. aware of it Relax
You're still stink this week too. You said last week you suck cuz you didn't drink you suck this week, too
I'm just revving up, dude
I'm killing it right now. My knees are
No, my knees and back are I still gonna buzz ball in the in so we kind of lift with the big boys
No, no, it's I'm carrying
Let's watch some of the this is when Oprah they announced the verdict on Oprah
unbelievable in case number BA 0 9 7 2 1 1 we the jury and the above in title action find the defendant or
211 we the jury and the above entitled action find the defendant or
Orenthal James Simpson not guilty of the crime of murder
You know Johnny right here when he when he was whispering in his ear he goes you're going home juice you're going home
You're going home juice. That's like a fact. That's literally what he said. And Robert Kardashian is just standing there like,
I think my daughters are whores.
He's sitting there like,
I think O.J.'s fucking my wife.
He goes, you know, Chloe doesn't look anything like.
My wife just gave birth to the biggest bitch of all time.
It can't be mine.
Look at Oprah.
Yeah, look at Oprah.
Look at Oprah's defensive stance.
Oh my god!
Woo!
Superior Court of the State of California.
Well, there's a lot of thoughtful black people
Oprah's like, yeah.
And then there's a lot of black people that are like,
I don't give a fuck.
Oprah's like, look.
This is for everything.
The thoughtful black lady is sitting here just going like,
I can't cheer right now,
cause there's a camera on.
She's like, I'm a principal of a school,
there's like white kids there,
I can't be on camera doing this.
She went home and she was like, WAAAAAAA!
She goes, Everybody!
She's doing this, she goes, I have a confetti gun in my pocket.
I can't set it off until the camera turns into your boo-boo's a la.
She goes, you're on national TV, she goes, just pretend it's a really complicated issue and you're not excited and then the minute she got home she goes power
Power to the people power to the people don't put your party head on
Don't. Don't.
Don't.
Whatever you do, don't put it on.
No man, people really, if you're out of the loop
with the OJ stuff, you don't understand.
I'm not completely out of the loop.
I've seen all this footage.
How much bigger it is than just.
I know.
Unfortunately, other than just the murders
that he committed obviously,
and he's a psychopathic person,
but it became another thing
because of the great Johnny Cochran,
the great Effie Bailey, the great Barry Sheck,
the great Robert Shapiro, and the great,
Robert Kardashian can suck my ass, but.
He wasn't good as a lawyer or just because?
Robert Kardashian just sat there the whole time.
Like, he thought O.J. was gonna go away
and then he was all, you know, horrified.
He didn't do good legal work?
Was he researching or anything?
No, he's a fuckin' scumbag.
Dead weight.
Also what happened in 1994?
Like, wasn't Waco in 1994?
Lot of things happened.
Yeah, 1994.
June 12th, 1994, a million things happened that same day.
OJ was on the run.
North Hollywood shit was in 1994, right?
Yeah, I think so, yeah.
Northridge earthquake.
The 90s were unbelievable.
The 90s were amazing.
God must have kicked ass. I mean, the riots, I think so. Yeah Northridge earthquake the 90s are unbelievable the 90s were amazing
And the riots, I mean people the riots people really need to understand how
Amazing way goes a year before it was 93 didn't Tupac died in 94
Wasn't fucking uh, oh 94 might have been
City bombing. I actually don't know dates that well enough enough of your white tragedies
Well, I'm saying you know like
It was a good three years the Oklahoma City bomb a two-pack
Completely dominates the Oklahoma City bombing. Okay. I'll take okay see dude really a lot more people sure they were all really charismatic
Did they make hit him up
That daycare center didn't make hit him up
No, I'm obviously being a psychopath tonight, but because because OJ is gone, and it's it's it's a lot to deal with
It's still new for Devon I
Can't fucking believe it. It's crazy. Well did anyone know you're cancer. No, I didn't tell anybody
I just thought of the best movie idea of all time
okay, okay, and I need to stop setting stuff up like this cuz I
Just myself up for failure. No, no, no, So you know that movie, the Beatles movie, yesterday,
guy wakes up, Indian dude, Deb Patel,
there's no Beatles in the world.
He's the only one.
So here's the movie, Deb wakes up,
no one's heard of OJ Simpson.
And it's me trying to tell people.
Nicole Brown Simpson's alive.
Yeah, exactly.
And I keep trying to tell her, like, he's gotta.
No, no, he doesn't exist.
He doesn't exist.
So you take it upon yourself.
Yes.
Kill her.
And then, but everybody's just like,
well, nobody cares because you weren't in the NFL.
Now you just have blood on your hands.
You're trying to recreate culture, but you can't.
No, he tries to join the NFL.
Oh yeah.
He does in the college football.
That's perfect.
No, no, no, yes.
He's trying to get in.
It's yesterday meets invincible.
Yeah.
And that's what it is.
You're like a Mark Wahlberg type. I love this. Just so you can kill Nicole Hackelberg too. It's a Meets Invincible. Yeah. And that's what it is. You're like a Mark Wahlberg type audition for the NFL,
just so you can kill Nicole.
It's a sports drama.
He's an NFL underdog.
I play everybody on Mark Furman too.
I'm like super racist.
And you're in blackface the entire time.
But the movie starts and Devin's training for the NFL.
And the second he gets to tryouts,
he just gets hit and killed by another NFL player.
Instantly snaps his neck.
And he's on his dying deathbed.
He's like, you must kill Nicole Brown Simpson.
I go, the timeline's off.
I go, it's not right.
The timeline's not correct.
I go, racial tension will just manifest
into a much bigger thing.
We need this.
The balance is off.
I go, I'm like, the blacks need this!
Devin, Devin shows up.
I'm literally like, I'm a vegetable, I go,
the blacks need this!
We need to let a black guy off!
Who never gave a fuck about black people?
Final scene of the movie, I just thought of it.
Yeah.
Devin, he's dead.
Died in the accident on the field.
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. The cuts to Nicole Brown. Devon Petty's dead. Died in the accident on the field.
The cuts to Nicole Brown. No substance to call back.
And she is, she holds the newspaper and there's a tiny little article.
NFL underdog dies in freak hit.
And then she goes, hmm goes hmm throws the newspaper
Then Ron Goldman walks into the room he's man he goes you want to fuck again no you're dead
Yeah, and he just goes hey Nicole you want to suck my dick again, and she goes yes, please and then a credits I know walk a life by guys
And then a credits and then walk of life by guys plays and then yeah
Paper it goes NFL player died say his name was OJ Simpson, and then it's a photo of Devon in blackface
Yeah, I mean I just I'm telling you guys the riots were also another beautiful thing
Yeah, yeah, they were the riots were beautiful. They're sick dude. I mean it was a race war. Oh sad. It was a legitimate race war. That was a physical race war, this was a like
metaphorical race war. Yes, yes. And this was all that OJ got off. And then actually
you know what I'm saying about cultural impact that was like that happened and
then 9-11 happened it was it was Reunity. Yeah. Kind of an incredible timeline from
94 to 2001. Incredible. Wow. And okay, the fact that OJ didn't give a fuck
about black people.
OJ used to call black people the N-word.
Cause I'm not black, I'm OJ.
Yeah.
In fact, when he was being brought home after the trial,
there were all these black people.
I'm not black, I'm OJ.
You ever heard that?
No.
But that's not even the worst.
There were all these black people cheering for him
when he got acquitted and he was driving home
and he asked one of the people in the car,
he goes, what are all these N words doing here?
Really?
Yeah, he literally was like.
I'm sorry.
Yeah.
Oh no, no, I think before, right before it went to trial.
I think he was thinking, like,
oh, they're making me look bad.
Yeah, he didn't like black people at all.
Then Johnny Cochran.
Hard R when he said that?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Johnny Cochran and everybody had to be like,
we have to play up race.
So they brought race into the trial.
They allowed race into the trial. Lance Edo, big celebrity, really wanted it. Johnny Cochran and everybody had to be like, we have to play up race. So they brought race into the trial. They allowed race into the trial.
Lance Edo, big celebrity, really wanted it.
Judge Edo.
Yeah, Judge Edo, honorable Judge Edo.
Sorry, sorry.
Okay.
But yeah, man, I mean, this was all a culmination
of the Latasha Harling killing,
who was the black girl that got shot in the back of the head
by a Korean liquor store owner.
There was the Rodney King beating.
There was a couple other things.
And yeah, it was just everything was building up.
The riots had happened and then he's on trial
and he's like the white black guy.
He's like the whitest black guy alive,
but they're like, he has the greatest defense team
of all time.
And they're like, we're gonna fucking use race.
You killed a white woman.
Or they say you killed a white woman. This is this is in the historically in America allegedly sure you know like
Oftentimes been a lie like Emmett you know so oh yeah, no it's unbelievable shit
I didn't realize that the riot so you know
When how far away the riots were?
is that the riot, so do you know when, how far away the riots were from?
If it's within like three years.
The riots were like 92, and the case happened in like 94.
Also, this is like the height of like modern,
like racist violence, I think, in the United States.
Like post like Jim Crow shit,
like I know we're joking about Tim Timm-Timm-Muve
and everything, but like the Aryan Brotherhood
has never been more powerful and like neo-Nazis
than like the early 90s, mid mid 90s and shit, you know?
No, it was when, yeah, shit was really like 1960s-ish
in the 90s.
Yeah.
Like shit kinda came back and it was very like,
like Turner Diaries.
I think culturally from like 92 to 2001,
that was like the most like insane cultural impact
that like the United States has ever seen.
It's like most insane period of time.
Yeah.
The footage of O.J. getting acquitted and everyone in the streets and all the black
people cheering and the white people being like, oh, I'm part of this. I mean, come on,
listen, that might be necessary to even out hundreds of years of bullshit. It's horrible.
He did it. Black people are retarded for believing he didn't do it.
You know, Devon, I'd like to publicly retract the nice sentiment from earlier.
They're being willfully ignorant.
Yeah.
Because they're like, fuck you.
No.
They're like, I know we did it, but I don't give a shit.
That's a good way to put it. They're not retarded. They're like, we know he's guilty, but we're not going to say it.
We're not going to say it because fuck you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's not, yeah, you're our enemy.
It just sucks it was OJ and not like a real, like, act.
Dennis Rodman.
Like a black, black guy.
But he wouldn't have gotten off as your black, black guy.
He wouldn't have gotten off.
He wouldn't have gotten off as your black, black guy.
He had to have, yeah, he had to.
He had to be OJ.
He had to be OJ.
Cochran would have been working overtime
if it was a really black guy.
That would have been much harder.
Yeah, he would have been having to pick him up,
he'd be like, you're late.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Judge Edo's like, if you are late in my courtroom
one more time.
Dude, even the fact that Judge Edo's an Asian guy.
It's like the riots in one courtroom.
Judge Edo was probably on her fucking rooftop
shooting a black people two years earlier.
It's amazing, it's unbelievable.
That's what I mean when I compare to the Beatles, Connor.
You're going to make it so fucking funny.
OJ's better than the Beatles.
I think the trial is bad, I think the whole story.
Blackbird is actually about OJ Simpson.
The whole story in the trial is better than the beat.
But it's one of those things when I was a kid
and I found out about it, I found out about the riots,
it was just one of those things that's like,
yeah, that's supposed to have been.
Much like when I heard, Hey Jude.
I go, yeah, I feel like I've heard this.
So every time you hear a Beatles song,
you go, haven't I heard this before when you were a kid?
So this isn't even a real argument,
but I'm just saying my counter to that
is the fact that like the Beatles change music
Oh, just how didn't really actually change anything between like white and black people's relations in the country. I mean like it's still I love that
You're like
No, there is there is he is being sincere. Yeah, what the fuck is with you, Paul? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
No, there is, there is a, there is a,
there is a rhythmic history.
Oh, come on, don't do that to me.
All right, black people, don't do that to me.
Don't do that to me.
There's a rhythm to history, and Devin's talking about,
there is a rhythm to musical archetypes, and the Beatles,
and again, there's certain things that come around.
There's certain things that come around.
They made a soundtrack to life.
There's certain things that come around in life,
in our culture, where you go, that is perfect.
Yeah. Yeah. And there is is often there's obviously always somebody that suffers from it all those dominoes
There's always a victim but also perfect Rachel dominoes where it's like
7-eleven
Korean kills the black lady
Ryan's oh the city bombing
Boom and then just like a perfect like if you don't think Timothy McVeigh was
Really seeding over fucking OJ Simpson. Oh big time. Oh god. Yeah, I know OJ
No, McVeigh. Yeah, I would know 100%
Cuz that was proof in the pudding like he was like, okay
They weren't just like fucking you know, the blacks weren't just you know, they could just say it all day
But OJ's getting off of murder. So he's gonna blow up a building. Yeah.
Let me get called a faggot so many times in the comments.
No, it's okay, dude.
No, no, no, no, you're not.
Before I heard the end of that sentence, I thought you were just talking about like after
when we turn the button on.
When we go head out after.
Connor, you can avoid all the comments if you join the side of black people.
No, he kind of was. He was. He kind of was. You can avoid all the comments if you join the side of Black Mabel.
No, he was, he kind of was. Yeah, he was.
He was.
He was.
OJ?
Great.
Didn't do it.
Innocent or guilty?
Didn't do it.
There we go.
Actually, I was defending Black Mabel
more than you were in my last interview.
What was I saying about Black Mabel?
No, I was just saying the fact that OJ didn't change anything.
That's all I was saying, and I don't even mean it seriously.
I just mean it didn't really actually have an impact.
It didn't change anything.
Okay, you're right.
It was like a minor victory.
You're kinda right.
You are right about that.
I'm saying it just changed entertainment.
Yeah, we got a TV show.
You're all about entertainment, dude.
It changed what was on Devon's TV.
So entertaining.
For the last.
It changed the channel for me.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You guys ever see this?
This is him on a nude show talking about it
This is this is what oh, Jay, you know, he's got a good sense of humor and stuff about it
You promise that you will not ask me another question about
He's funny, Nope. Oh my God.
No, no, no. This is the best.
You see this? I don't think so.
Jay said to me that he had a surprise for me and I genuinely was surprised.
I think it was his idea of a joke.
And this is it.
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Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Right, if you were guilty, you'd be like, I'm never making any jokes. I'm sitting tight.
I'm not talking about this.
My lips are sealed.
I'm missing.
But he's also an athlete, and he wants to flaunt.
All right?
That's true.
This is a victory dance.
This is a touchdown.
Oh, that is true.
This was the greatest touchdown of all time.
It is.
That's why when he won, he goes like this to the jury.
He goes like.
Yes.
He literally acted like he scored a touchdown.
Yeah.
It's amazing.
Yeah.
It's amazing. You know, you guys ever see him fucking? Whoa, he gets a touchdown. Yeah, it's amazing. Yeah, it's amazing
You know what you guys ever see him fucking whoa you get some metal the lost confession. Oh, I've seen this I think
This is just him doing when he when he wrote his whole book called if I did it
By the way the if I did it the if is so small the if is so small because of the civil case
Yeah lost where the
Goldman's were allowed to or the Brown family.
They inherited the rights for the book. You have to make the if very small.
That's funny.
And interrupted minutes.
O.J. puts himself hypothetically at the scene of the crime.
The chapter, chapter six is called The Night in Question.
Oh, yeah. And you write in the book, now picture this and keep in mind that this is-
Purely hypothetical.
Hypothetical.
Yes.
Why don't you tell me what might have happened on the night of June 12th, 1994?
And let's just walk through the night.
Well, first of all, this is very difficult for me to do this.
It was very difficult for me.
So it was June 12th, 1994.
I guess June, I guess the next day
he then went on the run.
Because it's hypothetical.
I know and I accept the fact that
people are going to feel whatever
they're going to feel.
They're going to nail some,
whatever they want to feel.
In the book, the hype-
He goes, you know white people.
I can't be controlling how white
people think of them crackers.
I can't control the crackers.
That I call it is-
Charlie.
Charlie.
This guy Charlie shows up,
the guy where I recently
become friends with.
And I don't know why you had been
buying the Coase house, but
it told me you wouldn't believe
what's going on over there.
I love how he created a guy named Charlie that is him.
Like he's like, it's like Flowers of Algernon.
Like he's like retarded.
He goes, well, I was thinking it was a man named Charlie.
I can't believe you remember that fucking book.
And I remember thinking, well, whatever's going over there has got to stop, right?
Yeah.
So we kind of hooked up together and, you know, kind of broad stroking this.
We go over, get into Morocco and go over.
Let's just go back and do the details.
Where did you park?
I'm not going to do the detail.
You park in the-
And the hypothetical in the alley.
Right.
You park in the alley. Yeah. Which, by the way, in the court case, they all knewothetical in the alley. You park in the alley. In the alley.
Which, by the way, in the court case, they all knew he parked in the alley.
He's literally just, he did it.
Yeah.
He completely, obviously is.
You put on.
Admitting to her.
A wool cap and gloves.
In hypothetical, I put on a cap and gloves.
Right.
Put on some great Bruno Magli shoes.
And he put on a skull cap.
He really dressed, he dressed like every movie
you've probably ever seen of like a boogie man.
Like a guy.
Like a Brinks commercial.
He put on a whole outfit.
Yeah, he looked like he was in an ADT security commercial.
He goes, yeah, hypothetically I put on a long hooded cloth
and a robe, if you will, and
I grabbed my scythe and I proceeded to my house.
And you reached under the seat for?
A knife.
I always kept a knife in that car for the crazies and stuff because you can't travel
with a gun.
He goes, hypothetically, by crazies, I mean Nicole Brown Simpson.
He goes, you know, I was keeping a knife in your car in case the crazy people come, you
know, come after you.
Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman.
Jewish waiter, my wife.
He goes, hypothetically, I'm talking about my wife and the Jewish players. I believe he took it.
Charlie took the knife.
Yeah.
He goes, Charlie was crazy as hell, boy.
He goes, by the way, Charlie was really good at football.
He goes, Charlie told me he rushed for 2,000 yards in one season.
Book.
Yeah.
Yes. So the back gate, you go through the back gate.
Yes.
And it was open or broken?
He just admits it.
When he doesn't say hypothetically,
Charlie goes through the back gate.
When he goes, she's great, this interviewer, by the way.
She just keeps going, you, you, you.
Oh yeah, yeah.
And then he eventually slips up.
Imagine me, Johnny Cocker, and watching this
and just going like, motherfucker, OJ.
Well, here's the thing, real quick, Connor, by the way.
Everyone did get karmic justice.
Johnny Cochran died shortly after this of brain tumor.
I think that's a plot.
He was just doing his job, that's not fair.
He was shitting a shot glass of blood every day.
He did 64.
He did a couple bang bangs,
a serial killer came into his apartment.
And he was shitting glasses of blood.
But no, Johnny Cochran got a brain tumor
shortly after this, which I kind of,
I do believe is like a little karmic,
because Johnny Cochran went a little too far.
Johnny Cochran was like comparing,
he was comparing white people to Hitler
by the end of the game.
That's his job.
It's literally his job.
Yeah, but I think that was a bit too far,
and even a lot of people on his,
in his defense team were like,
yeah, that was a bit much.
Who ends up winning, though?
Robert Kardashian died of colon cancer after this.
He deserved it.
He deserved it.
I just think some things happened.
But F. Lee Bailey and Barry Sheck and those guys,
those guys are just yet
No, yeah. Yeah. Yeah his impact. Oh
Wait, they should die way before Robert Kardashian is a huge loser and he can burn in hell
Say things You just say things. You just say shit. It's so funny to be, it's so funny to grandstand here
and be like, these people got their karmic payback, dude.
Colon cancer.
And then I go, they can burn in hell.
Edo's still kicking, right?
My favorite joke ever.
Edo's still out there.
He's alive, yeah.
Is that Edo?
But my favorite joke ever about OJ ever,
is, cause you're about to be talking about OJ's in hell
Is what did what did Ron Simpson say to Nicole when they met up in heaven? Here's your fucking wallet
No, it was here's your fucking glasses
It was her mom's glasses that she left at his restaurant. Oh, well, that's bulls. Those were like his cum shot glass. Yeah
He would put him on her and cum on her face.
That was the truth.
It was the shark in glasses.
It was his shark in glasses.
Anyway.
Let's get, look at that stare.
I don't recall.
Okay.
I go to the front and I'm looking to see what's going on
and I can see that it appears like Nicole had thought I had candles all the time.
She really did to keep her overhead down, I think.
And music was on.
And while I was there, a guy should keep her overhead.
That's such a funny, subtle thing.
We were struggling financially at the time.
The power bill.
No, that's such a funny, subtle thing to say.
You know what that could mean?
It's a classic divorce thing.
He's not giving her enough money
to keep up with the house, you know?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
That's like a, you know.
Yeah, yeah.
Wait, they were divorced at the time?
They were separated.
Got it.
They were separated.
Then she was banging Marcus Allen to get back at him.
And then they, and then she was banging this other white guy
who O.J. would flip out about and be like,
you suckin' his dick in the living room and,
and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and,
which is, you know, every man gets angry.
Was she ever on the record for like him being violent before?
All the time.
Yeah, really?
Tons, the cops were called there a lot.
Damn. Jesus Christ.
He used to brutalize.
The cops would come,
the cops would come and she'd have like a black eye
and they'd be like, oh my God, it's OJ,
he's like, this guy, get your, ah.
Yeah.
Poor woman.
No, they, yeah, they, she'd have like a,
like her face would be like.
Yeah, this is necessary.
Her face would be black and they'd go, that's racist.
And they'd go, OJ, great to see you.
You're canceled.
And they'd go, you're canceled, Nicole. You're canceled, great to see you. You're canceled. And they go, you're canceled, Nicole.
You're canceled, nice to meet you.
Nice to meet you, OJ.
And they go, OJ's like, I'm wrestling consciously
with the fact that I'm dating a white woman,
so I'm trying to darken her up a little bit.
Yeah, no, he definitely did it.
He's one of the worst people to have ever existed.
Now you're backtracking a whole lot. Yeah, you're really cucking this up, Debbie. He's being of the worst people to have ever existed. All right, now you're backtracking a whole lot.
Yeah, you're really cucking this up, Debbie.
He's like being fake about that, you can tell.
If you, after the show, he's gonna-
He's a bad guy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
OJ was terrible.
Oh, OJ did bad things.
He killed two people.
He used to beat her.
He was accused of rape multiple times at USC and then people at USC had to sign NDAs
to not let it out and so he got his Heisman and then he had an amazing career.
And then he went on to kill two people.
Oh boo fucking who?
You know how many fucking great documentaries we have over this shit? You want that deleted?
There used to be a comedian who bought uh, or maybe he just had a white
Ford Bronco and he would he was a shitty comedian, but you could pay him 50 bucks
You get noticed white Ford Bronco and he would drive you around like Brentwood.
Yeah, and he would just tell you the story.
Who?
I can't remember his name, do you?
Well, I don't know his name,
but I do know that Nicole was known
for something called the Brentwood Hello,
which means she would suck off strangers for drugs.
Don't act like I have, I've been on,
I've been on the I've been on.
That's the Brentwood hello.
Brentwood hello, she would give sexual favors
to strangers in randos.
In Brentwood at parties.
It's also known as the Recita hello,
the Van Nuys hello, the Watts hello, the Compton hello.
A lot of people don't understand this.
Okay, she was a, she was a floozy.
She was doing drugs all the time,
she owed the cartel a lot of money,
and that's why they gave her,
that's why they gave her and Ron Goldman
the Columbia necktie.
You've been to one, hello, it's the Columbia necktie.
You've been to one, hello, it's the cartel.
It's the cartel.
You go, this course all the way back to the cartel.
This is all jail chabo!
This is all chabot, man.
In Devon's room, there's just like red yarn
and Polaroid photos of Nicole Brown in the cartel.
I mean, come on.
I look at this like the Woody Allen Mia Farrow thing.
Another innocent man.
They're both a little crazy.
Who knows who did what?
They're both wild people.
Who could really say?
Who could really say?
Yeah, unless you were there, I don't know.
I wasn't there.
But I mean, listen, I've been on black Twitter
and I believe a lot of things right now.
Mm.
I went down the rabbit hole last night.
I watched the O.J. documentary a couple times a year.
I think it's the greatest piece of media ever made.
Jason and I both agree on that.
And I watched it again last night.
I watched seven hours of OJ.
Jesus Christ, dude.
Last night.
And then I went on Twitter after.
I was up till 3 a.m.
I'm taking care of Ben's dogs and I was there alone.
I was just with the dogs watching OJ.
And I'm having a great time.
And it's, you know, and I'm remembering a friend.
Something a nice day.
You light some candles.
Thanks for the memories.
Yeah, I see you with a candle and some wine.
To keep the overhead low.
Thanks for the memories, all the gloves you owned
and the bloody shoes.
Thanks for the memories, the white Bronco,
the chase we watched, my parents got pizza,
everybody came over, it was a national story,
it changed the world.
That got nicer to you.
I think we should do a little corner.
All the t-shirts that were made.
Hachacha.
All the people that were entertained.
Woo hoo hoo.
Ba ba ba.
New idea though. Devin's lawyer corner.
Yeah.
Devin's lawyer corner, we have you defend
the worst person of all time.
We give him a black criminal who's obviously guilty.
Let's do it.
I like defending black criminals more than whites.
Okay.
You know, whites are boring.
Next week, Jared Powell.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, listen guys,
I really didn't think I'd get this much pushback today.
It's kind of upsetting. Well, you know.
Neither did the Cool Simpson
when she started doing the Brentwood Hello.
Maybe don't.
Fucking, Ojo didn't think he'd get a pushback on that neck
when he was shoving that knife into it.
Jesus Christ, John, that's too much.
Sorry, buddy.
Chal John.
Sorry, guys.
It's two people dead.
Yeah.
Well, she was known for the Brentwood Hello. She was known for the Brentwood Hello. O she was known for the Brentwood hello.
She was known for the Brentwood hello.
O.J. was known for the Brentwood goodbye.
Oh.
No, but in all honesty,
Nicole and Ron were killed by the cartel.
Ron Goldman comes in the back gate.
Yeah, a guy I really didn't recognize, I may have seen him around, but I really didn't
recognize him to be anyone.
And-
He keeps saying I, a guy I, a guy I.
In the mood I was in, I started having words with him.
He says to you, I just came by to return a pair of glasses, left them at the restaurant. Yeah words to that effect. Yes, and they were at Mezzaluna
A lot of weird things used to happen at Mezzaluna and Brentwood
What was it just there's a lot of shady characters that used to dine at Mezzaluna
I wonder if you find an old menu or something
We it's I think it's my still open? Let's go next week.
I don't know if I believed it or didn't believe it. It was pretty much immaterial because
you know I was more concerned about everything that everything that was going on you know and
was fed up with it I guess. You get into a fight Nicole comes out. A verbal fight.
you get into a fight, Nicole comes out and-
A verbal fight.
A verbal fight.
Got a little loud and by that time,
Nicole had come out.
And we started having words about
who is this guy, why is he here?
What's going on?
And she says this is my house,
get the F out of here.
Yes, and which I didn't like
because once again,
this is the same person.
And if you read the book,
you'll see some things that happened in the two weeks
leading up to this that were very, very irritating.
So he's talking about, you know, she was,
she called the cops on him weeks earlier.
He was going crazy because she was seeing this white guy
and he was going nuts.
He broke into the back door, kicked the door down.
But that's just an angry guy.
No one's the judge of domestic,
what goes on in somebody's home
and what goes on in the interpersonal dealings
of a relationship.
And so he kicked the door down, he was angry.
He was just, you know, he was just,
he was like seeing how strong a lot of the furniture
was in the play.
So he was like throwing it around me like,
oh, that breaks.
Oh, that, look at that.
That's pretty durable.
That broke pretty easily.
He goes, wow, that's pretty strong.
I guess we, what I paid for that is that was worth it.
And he was just trying out knives.
He was like, yeah, he was trying out knives.
He was juggling. He was going around the house.
And she was locked in a room afraid.
She was calling the cops.
And they came and whatnot.
And then after that, Nicole was done with him.
Like no love whatsoever.
Like I'm fully finished with you.
And he could sense that.
And that made him angry.
Because he didn't have her under his thumb anymore.
And every woman out there should understand,
never be in that position,
never let your man feel like you're not under his thumb.
Yeah, you'll be under his knife.
Because something bad could happen.
So, so, now I'm just letting you know
what happened two weeks earlier. And so for those two weeks, OJ was stewing and upset.
And then he went over there with Charlie,
and then Charlie, Charlie there with Charlie and then Charlie
No one can wrangle Charlie no one no one no one has any idea what Charlie will do it when Charlie sees red
Oh my god, it's like a bullfighter
Crazy so anyway, I'm just giving you a little details
about the last two weeks, what he's referring to.
You know, and I think Charlie had followed this guy.
That's so fucking stupid, dude.
That's so fucking funny.
As things got heated, I just remember the coal fell
and hurt herself.
And this guy kind of got into a karate thing and I said well you think you can kick my ass and I remember I
grabbed the knife
He's not fully saying he did it he's not even saying
Hypothetically goes I grabbed the knife so he's saying he's now also
He's now also like making Ron Goldman look like a bit cartoon character
Double jeopardy I just realized that's why he's so double jeopardy. I forget about that. Yeah
Yeah, yeah, cuz I'll sit there thinking like goddamn Cockra must hate this but no he has double check
I bet the civil suit this heart the civil is very sick that guy trains karate and like this like ready to fight and then
He realizes he has to fight
Oh, J. Simpson with a knife
Marshall Lynch just killed his wife in front of you the last thing I'm doing is
You can't run he's's a fuckin' run.
He's gonna chase you.
He's gonna run your ass.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That is so horrifying.
That should be, I'm sure this is probably Ben Dunn,
but like a Jason Voorhees.
O.J. Simpson.
But it's a running back, and he's super fast and strong.
I think that has to happen.
O.J. Voorhees.
I bet.
O.J. Voorhees.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Voorhees the Juice, man.
All right, let's just, we'll wrap this up real quick.
Portion taking a night from Charlie.
And to be honest, after that I don't remember.
Except I'm standing there and there's all kind of stuff around.
It was all kind of fucking, it was like somebody's.
He's like a shot glass of blood everywhere.
I'm looking in the toilet, it's all pink and shit.
I don't really remember what happened.
We had just come back from Mezzaluna,
so like there was marinara everywhere.
I did a bang bang in Mezzaluna.
I blacked out and I was like,
whoa my God, there's so much marinara sauce.
I woke up and I was like,
is this marinara bolognese?
Did Joey take a shit in here or something?
I don't know.
I don't know.
And um.
What kind of stuff? Butt and stuff, wow.
A spinal cord was visible.
What?
It's like Predator, it's hanging from the fucking tree.
Jesus.
He's like, he's like, it was kind of like, uh, it was kind of like, I'm trying to find the words.
Have you played Mortal Kombat?
You know Fatality?
It's kind of like a fatality, it's almost like, uh, it's almost like Kung Lao, like, through his, like, head.
You know, I just had to finish him.
By the way, it's so funny, even with O.J.,
the whitest black guy to ever exist,
we're like, man, motherfucker,
so I was there for shit, right?
This is how I would battle for my life.
Dude, he's crazy, oh my God.
I know, we gotta back up again.
That's okay.
I wanna back up.
This is hard.
I wonder when they test is a
His brain how much seat like how how didn't they get what I thought they did test it or no
I'm thinking about somebody else died Aaron Hernandez like they have to do that. I want to I want to see them now study his brain
Oh, you're right
He's dead now we get to see like how how severe his CTE was I don't think they're gonna. Okay that there's no way
Why wouldn't they who can because that's in there?
Oh, they have to give permission. Yeah, his family definitely has to go to test his brain for CTE
Yeah, dude, they're gonna family has to be like yeah, you may take this to a medical lab. They probably do it. Why not? Yeah
Because it's just gonna really members of his family like no he did it
But still loved a like because they just don't know how to like not I doubt it and also it can help
You think they're all delusional. They're just gonna bury his ass. That's what's gonna happen
They're gonna send his brain to a medical lab, but that's not gonna happen. They're just gonna fuck
Oh, they'll be like one little chunk. It's not like it's take the whole brain out. Just take a little bit even that it's fucking
Yeah, just fucking
They're like maybe this will explain our dad,
they're probably curious, they're probably,
he was crazy our entire lives.
Maybe, I mean, that's maybe, but I wouldn't do it
if I knew my dad was a murderer.
I'd be like, he's going down,
like just fuckin' don't even look into it.
Do you think he's killed again?
Since then?
Yeah. I hope so.
There could be a guy in Vegas he killed.
He was doing a lot of weird shit in the later years.
You think he just like snuck down like Skid Row,
Jared Palisade?
He might, honestly, literally he might have.
He fucking knows.
Cause he is one of these guys that,
no but that's-
Was he in the line up?
He actually didn't.
He didn't, I can guarantee he didn't.
This was a crime of passion.
This was built up through,
he has an anger issue that he never solved.
Yeah but what if somebody else pissed him off?
Like a homeless guy pissed him off.
No one can piss you off like a fucking woman.
Why would anyone ever piss OJ off after knowing about this?
On accident.
Well, he has CTE.
Some guy could just bump into him
and he could fucking lose his mind.
Now, I think he has-
But that's nothing compared to what Hugh is doing.
No, I know, I know, I know.
But here's the thing also, and I'm saying,
he has shown almost zero remorse.
That's why he's so good he won the case
because he looks so innocent. His composure is on the edge. I think he's gotta touch autism. So I think maybe he's just like, and I'm saying, he has shown almost zero remorse. That's why he's so good he won the case because he looks so innocent.
His composure is like that.
I think he's gotta touch autism.
So I think maybe he's just like,
I got away with that, why not fucking do it again?
He fits the profile.
He fits the profile of a psychopath
who was capable of murdering possible.
There's something on the spectrum there with him.
There's something weird and odd.
You know he was supposed to play the Terminator?
That would have been so-
Are you serious? What?
He was supposed to play the Terminator, but James Cameron was literally afraid
that he didn't seem like a killer enough.
That's so fucking-
Wow. Literally.
And then they gave it to Arnold.
Once again, Connor, what I said earlier,
that story doesn't exist unless he does what he had to do.
Yeah, the Terminator.
Dude, you've converted me.
Unbelievable stories.
You get a behind the scenes Terminator anecdote.
When you're at a party,
and you're eating charcuterie,
and you're bored as shit,
you get to tell some guy,
you go, you know, James Cameron.
Spitting salami.
And you get to talk.
You know, fucking.
Yeah.
That would have been a quiet, awkward moment.
OJ.
If he hadn't done anything,
no one has any dinner party banter.
Everyone's quiet and looking around.
There's nothing to say.
There's nothing to fucking say until Trump gets elected.
True.
At which this boring shit.
It was boring until Trump.
How about this?
Here's a question.
No OJ, no Trump as president.
Yeah.
I'm comfortable saying that.
Yeah, probably.
In a weird way.
Butterflats.
Because it just made everything so ridiculous.
Yeah.
And people were like used to anything happening.
No Obama for sure.
Huh?
No Obama presidency for sure if OJ wasn't fucking...
I could see that too because...
Oh, if Trump no then no Obama at all.
I could see that.
Well, Trump wouldn't have happened without Obama.
But Obama wouldn't have happened without OJ.
Yeah.
But in all honesty...
We're going back to the future shit now.
Yeah, this is...
The picture of Obama, I have a polaroid photo of Obama,
it's just disappearing as I'm looking at it.
Let's write a butterfly effect two,
and it's about the idea of trial.
There already is a two, but I love that idea.
Three, let's write it.
I think there's a three, but listen,
four, whatever the next one is.
No McVeigh, no Obama.
No McVeigh, no 9-11.
Who's time traveling though?
Who's the one going back and trying to,
oh, you know who it is?
McVeigh. No, no
It is Cato Cailin
Travel who used to run a comedy show open mic or we knew Cato
Yeah, um, let's copyright that but uh, yeah, man, I don't know it to be you know, an honesty like I feel fucking my I feel
The Goldman family it's like one of the hardest things
to ever watch is, you know, watching like any footage
of that and them go through what they're going through
or what they went through and it's horrible.
It's really, it's like unbelievable what he did.
I don't buy it.
But how do you think, Joey, I don't think,
do you get Al Cowlings?
You guys know Al Cowlings?
His best friend, O.J.'s best friend.
The guy that was in the white Bronco
that was calling the cops in the chase.
He was driving, or was he?
He was driving, O.J. was in the back
with the gun to his head, but it was like fake, probably.
And I don't know, the other day,
I just couldn't stop thinking of like,
Al Cowlings was like the only guy
that will show up to his funeral,
the only guy that still likes him,
because he was just so, he just loved him,
he was just his best friend of all time,
and he was a good guy, Al Cowlings.
So I kept picturing Al Cowlings calling the morgue
two days ago, and being like, is O.J. there?
And they're like, who is this?
He's like, put him on a phone, who the hell is here?
He goes, you know who this is, god damn it!
This is AC!
Who else would it be?
It's AC, god damn it!
And they're like, sir, it's 2024, you are old news.
Man.
Well, you know, rest in piss, bozo.
Rest in power, actually.
Take a look at him rest in piss bozo
rest in piss
rest in piss
funny you are one of the worst people to ever live
In history flopping all over the place
John Kerry over here. That's why cuz nobody could fucking nobody could fucking get their hands around me. I know what if you slippery
Fuck I know to navigate a grease pig over here. I can navigate any fucking road. Okay. They call me Debbie Traverse
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You gotta get Fridays off by the way soon.
Shut up, pussy.
I'll do what I want.
You also dissociate throughout the show constantly.
It's kind of crazy to me.
I thought I was great today.
You were okay.
I was good.
You know what?
It's like there's this fine fucking line. I'm not doing, yeah, no, Connor said okay. That was good. You know what? It's like there's this fine fucking line.
Okay.
I'm not doing, yeah no, Connor said okay.
Let's fucking end this shit.
No, I'm not doing this.
I'm not doing this shit.
I kick ass.
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I think in June, I'm gonna buy some equipment.
We'll start, we'll do the movie shit and we'll do a I think a bar hangout. Yeah
At the best bar on earth. We'll podcast from a bar. I think we can do it in other places for 20
Coming one a yeah, well one a anybody
What were you saying just to show you plugged it but I was saying
I've been a lot of people have been talking to me yeah going like oh that's
gonna be the big show and Connor said that he's going to drop a few bucks and
he's gonna buy weed he's gonna put you gonna buy weed for everybody at the show
and put some weed under their chairs that's Dopra. Yeah. Are you serious? Are you serious?
Like Dopra.
Yeah.
End it on that.
That's come on.
Bye.