Hate Watch with Devan Costa - Victory Lap
Episode Date: June 5, 2023In celebration of our 100th episode we hate watch ourselves. The good, the bad and the ugly. Thank you all for listening. Couldn't do it without you idiots. Cheers to 100 years! Get weekly bonus episo...des: https://www.patreon.com/HateWatchPodcast
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It's good to be in something from the ground floor.
I came too late for that.
I know.
But lately I'm getting the feeling
that I came in at the end.
The best is over.
Many Americans, I think, feel that way.
Fucking be up to this one.
Testing.
It's the hundredth ep.
Test, test, test.
And by the way, guys,
I never do this and I hate this,
but it's episode 100.
It's a big fucking thing, so I'm going to drink.
We should drink.
Let's have a drink on this.
Cheers, guys.
We don't usually imbibe, but it's the 100th ep.
Cheers, guys.
You got to celebrate.
Cheers, everybody.
Thank you for listening for 100 episodes.
Wow, I haven't had something like that in me in about
33 hours. What is that?
It's going to be weird doing it drunk,
but we'll try.
Oh, man.
100 episodes. Kind of crazy.
100 episodes.
You've done way more than 100 episodes, right?
We have about
70 of
the old show okay on the patreon archives um these are from like the ben's garage days yes that's
when all of us were just completely uh we were just losing our minds and living off of uh one
panda express combo meal a day and i was doing well you were always doing well joey's always
doing well but he but he's the only
guy that's doing well that will tell me I have no money
in my bank account.
What happens
is I spend all of the
money that I have, no matter what the amount is,
I always spend it down to zero
and then I get the paycheck
the next day. So there are
days where it's just like, oh, I gotta
eat. I'll get a loaf of bread just like, oh, I gotta eat. I gotta,
I'll get a loaf of bread
and a bunch of peanut butter
or something.
Yeah, that's insane.
Joey has like
Great Depression meals
and I'm like,
but you live in a great apartment
and you have a good job.
Joey's like getting breastfed
by a woman in a boxcar
three days.
Joey's like hanging out
with like low-income people
and they're all like,
I've been living paycheck to paycheck
and Joey's like,
same brother.
I make six figures a year
and I just live paycheck to paycheck. Well well somebody told me like you you spend irresponsibly
you should get this app it's called like rocket money or it's one of these so i downloaded it
and it kind of is just like a database that tracks your spending integrates with your your
fucking bank and it told me that like oh i'm spending about like eight to ten thousand dollars
every single month just on rent and everything combined everything combined yeah so rent is
now it's like around 2700 bucks and then uh yeah with like a lot of it was postmates and then like
ubering and so i got the app and i learned that and then i just didn't change anything you should
be they should make like an alternate captain america where it's joey and it's but it's just about like just feed into
like capitalism like exactly what america wants oh yeah they want you to own nothing and yeah
spend all your money yes just just spend everything you have it's funny it's funny to hijack the
concept of non-attachment and give it to American values.
Debushito believed in non-attachment, not saving money.
I think it's pathetic when anybody's like, oh, let me save.
You can't take it into the grave.
There's families.
They're like, we want to have a kid next year.
They're saving.
Joey's like, pathetic.
Oh, no.
You haven't heard of Postmates, buster?
If you have a family it's responsible to
you have to care for them and stuff but if you don't then you
shouldn't save. As a young man you should be as wild as you possibly can.
Let me ask you this though. If you didn't have
your mom and pop back in
South Dakota and the
freedom of knowing you could always go
back there if shit hits the fan. Would
you not? Would you start saving a little bit? Yeah because then you get to sleep
on my fucking couch bro
what are you talking about joey would kill himself anytime joey has to do anything like that he'd
joey would never no i would if john had a better living situation i would be honored to go like
crash with him and stuff but yeah so like the only so within the last like 10 years since i
moved to los angeles the only time i went back to South Dakota with my parents was during
COVID-19. I got fired from my
job and I
was on unemployment playing poker
and I was like fuck it like why wouldn't I just go
go there.
But so I
I'm not quite as irresponsible as you just
made me sound like you're
you're right
uh oh
uh oh alright what do we do sound. You're at... Uh-oh.
Uh-oh.
Alright, what do we do?
Just tilt it on its side.
You first buy some paper towels. It's one-year-old.
Tilt it on its side and just let it rest.
It's fine. Let it run. It's built to withstand that shit.
Let me wipe some of that off.
They're not built at all to withstand this.
To withstand
random spills, of course.
That's going to be fun. Use the Bryant jersey, dude.
No. Grab something off the ground.
Use your sock.
But yeah.
Take your sock off.
Take your sock off.
Use your shirt.
Use that nice shirt you're wearing to wipe it up.
Yeah.
Use your shirt, you fucking animal. it up yeah use your shirt you fucking animal
sorry about that
I think that was me
you know the one episode we drank on
that's why
this is like a PSA
why don't we have paper towels down here
this is why we don't normally drink
this is why we want to be safe here
that's pretty crazy. Hit the laptop
first, dipshit.
You used up all the good
dry cloth for the fucking
table instead of your precious laptop.
That thing is not absorbing.
It's got to be seeping into the hard
drive while we speak, dude. Devin, you're gonna
lose all your gay porn, bro.
You mean the stuff you sent
me? Yes, Devin, yes.
Very good. Very good, Debbie.
You know I fucking hate you. You're off the show.
100 Fs and you're out. 101 without you.
Okay?
It's gonna get right in there, bud. It's gonna get right into all those
content. He's got
truth. Oh, look, he's playing videos again.
Look at this fucking guy.
Otters just are...
They suck ass.
And they hate tech
and now it's like the worst
of both otter craze.
Put your shirt back on.
Put your wet shirt back on.
Devin thinks he looks like Channing Tatum.
Turn on ignition.
First Joey fucking breaks my phone.
Look at Blame Mothers.
It's like otters when they don't know how to use technology,
they instantly blame somebody else.
It's like they've never listened to Jocko or anything.
Right.
You don't know anything about extreme ownership, you fucking...
If there's ever, like...
Devin does have a massive trough to hair on his fucking chest.
It's really respectable.
Holy shit, look how, like, gray it is.
He's got some grays in there, dude.
That's, like, crazy.
You're like Mr. Fantastic.
Yeah, you're damn right.
It's called character You don't have any grays
Because you don't have any
I have tons of grays
In my hair dude
Not on your chest
That's where the character is
The chest
Here lift it up for a sec
I want to see if there's
Anything on the bottom
Why don't we just do this
Whole podcast shirtless
A little wet
But it's fine
It's a nice shell
But yeah so I was saying
I spent too much money
You're getting the fucking Gerardo thing
in the fucking water, bud.
Come on now.
I mean, come on.
Technology.
That thing's not built to withstand water.
Electronics are made to withstand liquid.
Here, move this forward.
Thanks for keeping it entertaining.
Yeah, I hope, I hope,
I hope this makes it into the final cut.
Look at one of his loose chest hairs got into the fucking water.
What an animal.
Oh, God.
You're fucking disgusting, Devin.
Yeah, you wish you had fucking chest hairs.
Ew.
You want to fucking try me, bro?
You know what it looks like under here?
You and all your crusty chest hairs from all the cum shots you take every fucking night?
Yes, yes.
You have to break them with the flat of a shovel.
Fucking asshole.
That really got me going.
Let's do this.
That was a secret order.
Could you put that over there?
This is actually my trick.
I'm trying to gas you up, buddy.
Oh, is it?
Yeah, I got you, bud.
You know what?
It's been a slow start for you tonight.
Get it out, buddy.
It's been a slow start for you tonight.
I'm fucking killing it.
I'm gonna need more.
I'm fucking killing it right now.
Fucking drinking Pedialyte yeah
i felt dehydrated i gotta enter i gotta zero uh ultra and monster energy don't worry i'm gonna
knock into that bad why aren't you drinking it's 100 drinking uh yeah i don't know maybe i'll have
one we'll see i'm dehydrated i didn't get like went to sleep tonight i don't know i hope you
brought your awake the only reason i'm drinking drinking is because I got no sleep last night.
It's the only reason. And it's the 100th ep.
I never drink. Now I'll have one in a bit.
You gotta drink sometimes. I have a fucking electrolyte.
Everyone deserves to wind down
at the end of an eight hour day.
Guy works with his damn hands.
I gotta go. I'm typing away.
I upload the eps.
I need a damn drink.
Like a fucking steel worker over here. Alright upload the apps. I need a damn drink. Like a fucking steel
worker over here.
Alright. Oh, man.
So, what were we saying before the disaster?
It was just something. I spent too much money and then it's not
that good. We're about to move right on.
Yeah, we're moving on. We're moving on.
Is it Pride Month?
Yeah. I feel like it's literally
Pride Month every other month. If they wanted it to be the way they want it to be? Yeah. Yeah. I feel like it's literally Pride Month every other month.
If they wanted it to be the way they want it to be, it will be.
There will be a straight month.
That's what will happen.
It's like, there will be one month where things are normal.
Why does there need to be a Pride Month since everything on TV is already gay?
Because they want to fucking...
It's year-round gay.
Dude, don't get me started.
We're going to get a fucking move from YouTube.
You could...
I celebrate Pride Month by turning on any show on HBO Max.
Yeah, it's literally just...
Or Max.
It's coming in each other's ass.
You know how I celebrate?
What'd you say?
What do you celebrate?
By coming over to Devin's house.
Yeah, Devin's are...
What does that mean?
You guys are gay.
Because you're gay.
You're gay, dude.
Oh, right.
Very good.
Yeah.
This is great.
Well, how would you know?
Because he has sex with me.
You have sex with John.
Because you're the gayest man on earth
I catch you guys frenching
yeah we french kiss all the time
at this point isn't pride month redundant
I mean like
every month is gay
the thing is man
it's gay gay gay round the clock in this god damn country
and I'm in favor of it
but just fucking enough of the
you don't need any more months.
No more days.
You guys don't need it.
No more parades.
Everyone's out.
Everyone's gay as shit.
Chick-fil-A is gay as shit.
Oh, yeah.
Chick-fil-A is gay as shit.
Bud Light is gay as shit.
Monster trucks are now made by fucking Little Richard.
Wait, what?
Wait, Richard wasn't gay.
Relax.
Oh, not Little Richard.
Who's the workout guy?
Richard Simmons.
Richard Simmons.
I was like, God, don't fucking talk shit about Little Richard.
Richard Simmons.
Everything's gay.
Spike TV is gay now.
Well, in the Midwest, there's stuff that's not gay.
Yeah, it's like the last vestige of fucking American society.
Like what?
The Buffaloes?
That's it.
Everyone's gay now.
You just go out there, and people still are like,
whoa, you're gay?
That's weird.
Yeah.
And you're like fucking... No one's getting dragged behind a truck or anything anymore, but there are still people still are like, whoa, you're gay? That's weird. Yeah. And you're like fucking...
No one's getting dragged behind a truck or anything anymore,
but there are still people...
I bet, maybe.
In America?
There's people getting their asses kicked
for being gay in middle America, bro.
Oh, yeah, they're getting their asses kicked.
There's not like lynchings, though, anymore.
Well, people go to nightclubs.
Do they lynch gay people?
I don't know, dude.
Did you ever lynch a gay guy?
Matthew Shepard was lynched.
What?
Matthew Shepard?
Who the fuck is Matthew Shepard?
He got dragged behind a truck in Laramie or whatever.
What'd he do?
He was gay.
He was just being gay.
And they were like, oh, you're...
Look it up.
Was he Sam Shepard's son?
Wait, didn't something get released that Sam Shepard was fucking a bunch of dudes?
I don't know about that.
Or am I tripping?
Let's stick to one subject here.
Well, you just said Sam Shepard, you fucking clueless.
I don't know.
What do you want me to do?
Tommy Lee Jones is like confirmed gay.
That's what I was thinking of. Tommy Lee Jones fucks dudes.
Also, Robert De Niro's dad fucked dudes.
Well, that's actually opening.
He was openly gay. Yeah, that's crazy, man.
What did Matthew Shepard do? Who's Matthew Shepard?
He got lynched for being gay.
How old? Who is he?
Who is he?
Is he looking up? No, he just looked at Matthew Shepard.
He was a gay American student at the University of Wyoming who was beaten, tortured.
Oh, is he the inspiration for Brokeback?
I think so.
Like Jake Gyllenhaal's death where he gets killed with a tire iron by those guys?
I believe so.
Yeah.
Okay.
He was left to die.
He wasn't lynched.
Well, did they kill him because he was gay?
Yeah, if you're beaten and then left to die That's lynching
They don't have to be there for the kill
Lynching doesn't mean hanging someone
It means a mob
A group of people getting together to kill someone
It's like an unsanctioned murder
That's why I keep losing at Scrabble
Yes
I think he was killed
Because he doesn't know what lynch means?
Oh, God.
Poor guy.
Devin thinks lynching is just like they make an experimental film about you.
Poor guy, Matthew.
Also, Scrabble, you don't even need to know the definition.
That's true.
It was a bad example, and let's move on from it.
This 100th episode is going strong, fellas.
Terrible start.
But what do you want out of me, you know?
What do we got here?
We got some JD.
Well, let's explain the premise.
Should we do that later, or should we get into the playback pit stop?
Get into it.
Should we just make the whole episode a playback pit stop?
That'll be fun.
You should do a song.
Yeah, yeah.
But just do it about how...
Do Nirvana.
No, no, no.
Don't do Nirvana, because it's pit stop.
Do Cake, Going the Distance. It's a racing no. Don't do Nirvana. Because it's Pit Stop. Do Cake.
Going the distance.
It's a racing song.
You know what I mean?
Am I right?
I don't know.
If Devin thinks he can do it...
Car races.
Reluctantly crouched at the starting line.
Cake, the song.
Okay.
The distance.
It's about racing.
It's also about love.
But it's about racing.
If Devin doesn't know this song, it's going to be really hard.
I don't know much, but... You know this song. I know this song, but I have nothing planned. You can figure it's about racing. If Devin doesn't know this song, it's going to be really hard. I don't know much. You know this song.
I know this song, but I have nothing planned.
You can figure it out, bro. Come on.
I believe in you. Reluctantly crouched
at the starting line. John fucks you in the
ass. Yeah, keep going, bud.
I have nothing here.
No, come on. Don't get insecure. You're fucking with me.
Go, go. You can do it. I got nothing.
What is it even about?
Look at him go, dude
John, you have to let him be in his element
He's the musician
Yeah, go, stop yelling at him
I'm not yawning, I'm supporting him
Why would this be about our 100th
Because it's a pit stop
It's playback pit stop
Pit stop is a racing term
This is a racing song
And he goes, we're going the distance?
Yeah, it's about a race car driver
The entire song
Huh
Alright, well, fuck. Play Nirvana.
Actually, go Nirvana, and then there was Come As You Are, and somebody...
I got it.
Okay.
Oh.
I didn't know there was a pre-planned thing.
Well, I just saw this as a comment.
Oh, yeah.
John knows all about...
And he's on with Come.
Come.
Exactly.
There we go.
Very good.
I love our audience.
Oh, yeah.
Thank you, guys. Come in John's ass. Exactly. There we go. Very good. I love our audience. Thank you, guys.
Come in John's ass.
Yes.
Soak it in bleach.
Then penetrate him again.
Doused in mud.
Soak him in bleach again.
Then fuck him in his bleached asshole.
People are fucking my ass.
Coming in my ass.
Soaking me in bleach. They're soaking you in mud. They keep redoing you. is bleached asshole. People are fucking my ass, coming in my ass,
soaking me in bleach,
asking me in mud.
They keep redoing you.
They go freshen him up and then they go
soak him in bleach,
get him back in the room
with me.
But the mud
is a debasing thing.
And the mud,
they debase you in the mud
and they go,
look at you,
you're a pig.
And then they throw you
back in the bleach
and they go,
wipe him off.
Bleach that fucking
dirty asshole.
He's like shitting himself.
I can't fuck you.
You're all covered in mud. We really should have chosen a day to do that
where I could have a, I'll have a great
version of that next week. Yeah, he'll kill it
with that. Listen, I got like no fucking sleep
last night. I was at Ben's forever.
We did a sketch and shit. What a hard thing you did.
And then I just couldn't go to sleep and I got fucked up.
So this is a weird one.
But we'll get into it. Yeah, we're into it,
brother.
I don't like failing at the songs.
This is all I have now.
You got insecure about the last one.
I'm famous for the songs.
How do you think I feel?
You know,
there's tens of people out there that rely on me to have a song so they don't kill themselves.
You see the t-shirts were getting sent in the mail.
People are writing a suicide note.
I forgot to bring the t-shirts were getting sent in the mail? People are writing a suicide note. I forgot
to bring the t-shirts, by the way.
What are they? Are they just soaked in brains?
No, they're just like cool vintage
shirts. It's not even from... Oh, is that our boy
from Florida?
Ah, isn't it? I don't know if...
He wants us to say his name. I don't know. We don't
intend anything, but just, yeah, thank you.
I forget which one, but thank you so much.
But, uh, yeah yeah it's some of
the things you read online for being such a small show 100 episodes hopefully we keep growing punk
rock podcast punk rock podcast okay we're punk rock radio pirate radio we really like we don't
give a fuck you know we have an ad we have an ad now but we're still punk rock we have we have an
ad they didn't hit me back for this week, so it's probably over.
Because we're so fucking punk rock.
Yeah, dude, we didn't sell out. They can't be associated with us.
What were we talking about before that?
How we didn't sell out.
Oh, the suicide notes.
Yeah, so it's crazy that when you don't even feel like you're anything.
I don't feel like I'm anything with this show.
We're not.
Of course not. We're humble. It's Bushido. Everybody like you're anything. I don't feel like I'm anything with this show. We're not. Of course not.
We're humble.
It's Bushido.
We didn't even announce that.
Everybody knows we're not.
You get 6,000 views relative to how things go these days.
That ain't shit.
But when you think about that, you go, that is crazy.
Like 6,000 people, like that could fill a big, giant place.
It's a cool, small thing.
But nobody thinks in those terms anymore.
Because there's mentally ill
people online with hundreds of
millions of views.
But the
comments
you get sometimes about
I really don't know whether to read into
them on a real level or not, where it's like
are these people okay? Are you gonna
kill yourself? I've had unhinged things.
I actually feel like sometimes I'm like
I better get this John's Gun Corner song
right or Elliot's gonna die.
I don't know if there's like a
YouTube metric to track
like how mentally ill your audience
is. You know they capture
like gender and stuff.
If they captured stats on
how mentally ill the audience was,
I bet it would be like we're like the number one,
like most mentally ill listeners.
Probably.
Per capita.
Yeah.
And then it's a very polarized audience
because we have some of the coolest fucking people ever.
We have also amazing people.
Who was that dude living on a compound up in Oregon?
We all had to restrict him.
It was becoming a lot.
We were a little nervous about it. He just kept going at this the guy who's trying to like be like you come up here
yeah come up here he's like i want you to fuck my mom like yeah it was it was it was a bit much
he's like come up here he's like my dad's primed and ready brother you fuck my family what was his
name i don't remember they're all this it's it's all a bunch of different joey you know i'm i'm and ready, brother. You fuck my family. What was his name?
I don't remember.
They're all,
it's all a bunch of different names.
Joey, you know his name.
I'm thinking
and I don't remember it.
I don't think it's
who we think it is,
but the people are,
you know,
there's a big,
there's a large amount
of difference
between listeners.
Has anyone ever
sent you guys porn?
Not porn, but. I've had dudes just send me like porno. Has anyone ever sent you guys porn? Not porn, but...
I've had dudes just send me, like, porno.
Oh, you mean like a link?
Yeah.
I'm talking about the actual mail, because people hit up Devin, and they're like,
Hey, I'm a fan of the show.
I want to mail you something.
And Devin's like...
Nice try.
We don't have a P.O. box.
And then I'm like, well, just give him my address, because...
Because it's not bombing.
If it's a bomb, it doesn't bomb you.
It bombs your, like, lobby of your apartment complex.
Unless it's triggered to explode upon opening,
which is a common technique on a bomb package.
Yeah, you lose your hand real quick.
But listen, I'm a risk taker,
so I say, Devin, just give them the address.
And I've gotten a few packages now.
Keep them coming, by the way.
I'll keep taking the risk.
What if you test it out if it's a bomb by shaking it?
Does that work?
Yeah, exactly. That doesn't make the risk. What if you test it out if it's a bomb by shaking it? Does that work? Yeah, exactly.
That doesn't make it explode, right? Shaking it?
No. You shake a bomb, that's safe?
Nah, that's totally fine.
So I just got a package
from, it was like five cool
t-shirts, and then it included
a note, a handwritten note, and it basically
just said, like, hey, if it weren't for
Lemon Party and Hate Watch, I would have killed myself that's very nice yeah and i was on the lemon party live
stream and i read the note i like to hear that i like to get them weak and and then uh i like to
gain the fans when they're weak at their lowest standing on a bridge and they hear one joke and
they go i'm gonna i'll save i'll wait till next week. But then the dude hit me up and he's like,
hey man, I wasn't actually gonna kill myself.
Like, I hope you guys don't think I'm crazy.
He's joking. He's just being nice. He's just
saying like, man, I really love the show
or whatever. But listen, I want all
suicidal people, like, you know,
because your money just goes to the government.
Like, it'll just be taken
from you anyway when you die, so you should
donate it to the Hatewatch Patreon. Patreon..com slash hate watch podcast that where is where you're
you're we're heading into a massive recession your money should go and five dollars a month
is is pennies compared to what and if you're planning on killing yourself come on don't be
selfish don't keep it locked up and you should rob a bank account that nobody has access to
you give it to your parents you hate them they wouldn't have made you be all depressed if you liked them.
That's the thing
that always confuses me.
Like, if you're truly suicidal,
like, just rob a bank
and if you get away with it,
then your life's better
and if you don't,
just kill yourself.
Yeah, I don't,
I mean, I've never understood suicide
because, like,
you could always just die
in a fun way at least.
Like, you could just go get fucked up.
You could do, like,
a leaving loss of age.
Like, I don't understand suicide
just, like, that way.
Like, just go do, like, the, like, spend all your money, drink yourself to death, eat a
bunch of food, die in the street.
Yeah.
I suspect that they aren't in the mood to have fun.
Yeah.
But that's probably it.
Yeah, they're not.
They're not in the mood to have fun until they have a fucking Boilermaker, brother.
I think a lot of these guys have tried everything.
I bet they've tried getting drunk and it didn't. Drink through the thoughts. I think a lot of these guys have tried everything. I bet they've tried getting
drunk and it didn't. Drink through the thoughts.
I think a lot of suicide is because they're drunk.
Remember that video we watched
of the guy blowing his brains out? The shotgun?
Yeah, that kicked ass. I hated that so much.
That was really hard to watch.
We can't re-watch that on the
what is this called today? Playback Pit Stop?
We should.
That was amazing.
You're a sick individual.
You've really corrupted the show.
We had like a lovely vibe here before you.
And you've really just taken us down to like a hostile level, like Eli Roth path.
Neo-Nazis, snuff films, murders.
And that's why I abuse you.
That's why I abuse you weekly.
That's why for the last
three months every episode has had a song about how fat game retarded you three cucks before i
came in here and gave you guys a bunch of guys blowing their brains out chinese guys getting
blown up and fucking factory floors that shit kicks ass dude you wouldn't be anything without
me dude you wouldn't be nothing dude if it wasn't for all those guys in Hunan
getting their fucking legs ripped off
by fucking, you know, big cables and shit.
Well, the problem is, John,
you only have like two videos.
Like, John has two examples
that he brings up every, like, constantly.
Well, they're the classics.
He's like, dude, fucking do a Chinese industrial accident again.
I'm like, we've done this.
Well, you know what's actually amazing,
and I love all you audience members,
is a lot of you will send me some sick-ass shit,
and I'll watch it on my own and just kind of relax.
By the way, I think one of the funniest things about this episode to me,
because we just, I put out the idea here where we have people send us stuff,
and we'll hate-watch ourselves or whatever,
and kind of do a reminiscent episode,
but it's so kind of egotistical and hilarious,
because we're such a nothing show, honestly, still.
It's like taking a victory lap after winning.
It's fun to do a whole episode like it's a Lifetime Achievement Award.
Yeah, we're taking a victory lap after not winning anything.
And that's the funniest time to take a victory lap, though.
Yeah, exactly.
So I think it's fine.
Victory lap.
When you take a victory lap.
That's what this is called, victory lap.
And when you take a victory lap after a real victory,
you're showboating. Yeah, see, this is. That's ob this is called, victory lap. And when you take a victory lap after a real victory, you're showboating.
That's obnoxious.
To me, 100 episodes of Hatewatch,
3,700 smackaroos a month,
little to no traction online.
Home run, baby.
What a life we have here.
We've carved out quite a life for ourselves.
So proud of you, dude.
Thank you, brother.
It's a failure lap. We've pioneered a failure lap. We're the first ones to ever for ourselves. So proud of you, dude. Thank you, brother. It's a failure lap.
We've pioneered a failure lap.
We're the first ones to ever do it.
Failure lap.
No, we got it.
It's all, listen, I've always been a grower.
I've always been somebody that comes in at the end.
I've always, I'm a late bloomer.
And I imagine that that's how Hatewatch will be.
So all we got to do is do a couple thousand episodes.
Maybe we'll get up to 10 grand a month on Patreon someday, guys.
A couple thousand eps.
Oh, for sure.
Episode 1,000, by the way, let's promise that we'll do something really big on that one.
Yeah.
Like we fucking...
We kill a chimpanzee.
We blow up a chimpanzee.
We blow up a chimpanzee with an RPG.
That's been an old plan.
If you're a new Hatewatch listener, we've always wanted to do that here.
And that's the type of people you're listening to.
The chimpanzee death farm is like a secret.
That's like my happy place, like Happy Gilmore.
If I could do anything, that's what I would do.
That's your happy place?
Yeah.
When you get really afraid?
Dude, if I had any revenge on society, it would be the chimpanzee death form.
Right.
It's the legal Unabomber.
Because it's the closest thing to killing a human without committing murder.
Exactly.
Yeah, because they have thumbs.
Yeah, and they have these little doughy eyes.
It's really just like you have a-
They're like sign language.
They're like sign, like don't shoot.
They're like God is real, and I'm like-
Don't you hit that RPG launcher trigger.
You have a lust to kill somebody with an opposable thumb.
Yeah.
You want to kill a raccoons, chimpanzees.
Yeah.
All kind of goes down.
Yeah.
You have no follow ups with it, though.
You just kind of say it as usual.
You just kind of say a thing.
And then everyone goes, but why?
And you go, I don't know, dude, because you're fucking good.
Go back to the. I don't know, dude, because you're fucking good, dude.
I don't know, dude. I'm fucking, I just kind of grab my thoughts as they're flying
through my head at 100
miles per hour. I grab them, and then I
go, oh, this is empty. I don't have a follow, because I know
Devin's just going to kill it for me.
I don't like hearing that.
Alright, should we start the pit stop?
We made a big thread on Reddit,
and the Reddit community, by the way, kind of kicks ass.
If you listen and you use Reddit,
look up Hate Watch Podcast on Reddit.
It's a great...
There's like three people online, it says,
but all three of them are really funny.
It's me, Joey, and Devin.
Ooh, that's smart.
Which one should we start with?
I don't care. I think it doesn't
matter. Dude, let's get some Depp in here.
I'm fucking missing. Okay, so a little
trip down memory lane.
We, I don't know how many people have been
listening since this, but the Johnny Depp trial was a big trial.
Was that this year, this last year?
Yeah, it was.
So we got really into it.
It was probably the only good distraction in anyone's life for the last year.
Real quick, though.
Let's just talk about how we had the Johnny Depp impersonator on here
right before that became big.
That is true.
That was the coolest thing about that.
We did an episode called geppetto yes where we we looked into the amber heard johnny depp audio stuff before we even
knew there was a trial upcoming and no one was talking about no one's talking about on the news
so we happened to do that episode and then like a week later johnny depp amber heard is everywhere
yep and it was bizarre i was like what fuck? We did this on a whim.
We were just like sitting around one day like,
dude,
didn't Johnny Depp and Amber Heard have a thing?
Yep.
We had our fingers on the pulse of society.
So then we did a really funny episode called Geppetto.
Um,
and,
uh,
then we just kind of devoted a month straight to Johnny Depp and Amber
Heard.
And,
uh,
it got to the point where we got really into it.
We,
uh,
we,
we hired a Johnny Depp impersonator to come on the show.
We became great friends with him.
Awesome guy.
It was, yeah, no.
So somebody had the, I think John actually was like,
wouldn't it be funny to get a guy who does the pirate impression
and bring him in and have him cover the trial with us as a pirate?
And then so I'm like yeah that would be
funny let me yeah jack sparrow so i started looking up jack sparrow impersonators in los
angeles and i ended up talking about 20 of them yeah there's a whole network of them and they all
know each other they all work together and by the time i got to like the 10th johnny depp jack
sparrow impersonator they like i i now started going like oh well you must know this other jack
sparrow they were all talking
about each other and one of them had a monkey
that he could bring
but it was like a fucking
$5,000 monkey
for one hour you pay 5k for a monkey
what a load of shit
which honestly would be worth it if we could afford it because then we have Geppetto
oh dude I would love
if we get up to 20 grand a month
we'll bring on a fucking monkey
and we won't kill him And we won't kill him.
And we won't kill him
because we only kill chimps.
Yeah, we can get a cheaper monkey, bro.
I want a little capuchin monkey.
Dude, we could buy a monkey
for like 300 bucks.
I want a monkey that stands
on an old Italian man's shoulders
and bangs two symbols together.
Or like a monkey that spins the music.
Or like plays an accordion.
Yeah.
An old man plays an accordion
while the monkey just stands on his head.
I love those monkeys.
Yeah, monkeys kick ass.
I love a good monkey.
I'll tell you.
I fucking love monkeys.
I'll tell you right now, like a boomer.
Like, I'll tell you, I just love my barbecue and my yacht and my monkey.
So we had him on.
The first episode Was great actually
Nobody liked it
A handful of people liked it
People liked the first one we did
With Depp
We didn't act like he was here for the first five minutes
That's always a great gag
Have on somebody and you just don't ignore them
That's hilarious
Ignoring people, always funny
Especially people that you asked to
come. Didn't we train him to only say certain
things? And then we, yeah, and
I think, and that
was a good ep, I think, actually.
I actually kind of, I was like, oh, we actually
still did the hate watch thing. Then we had
him on again when the trial ended.
Disaster. He gave us our worst
episode ever. But it wasn't his fault.
It was just, it just didn't work.
We asked him to come on
as Johnny Depp.
Don't be a pirate. Be the real Johnny
Depp. And so
his impression of the real Johnny Depp
is a guy who just doesn't really talk.
That was actually the problem
was that when he was the pirate
it was fun. Well Johnny Depp wasn't
really talking in that trial. He was emulating
Johnny Depp in the trial. So the real, so then
when we had the real Johnny Depp on, we were like, just do
coke and just keep talking about how you're gonna beat her to
death and shit, and like you actually hit her
and all that and how, whatever.
So, this is the clip. Let's watch it real
quick.
Coke.
If I was going to
abuse her, I would definitely hit her in the face over and over
and over with my rings i definitely hit her after i pulled my fist back i had a hot iron
uh just fall on her face which she was able to cover with um bruce kid i would i would be famous
johnny come on he's nodding off again.
He's nodding off.
Yeah, there's track marks.
Jesus.
It goes back to... Take the mic away.
Shut the fuck up.
What about Hunter S. Thompson?
Do you miss him?
Do you remember him?
Your friend Hunter S. Thompson?
Your friend Hunter S. Thompson.
Fuck Hunter S. Thompson.
Fuck you guys.
Yeah.
To be honest, I don't even...
He's having a bad dream.
Oh, boy.
Oh, God.
Oh, boy. He's got the yips. This might... He's having a bad dream. Oh, boy. Oh, God. Oh, boy.
He's got the yips.
This might be the worst podcast we've done.
Oh, he's up.
There he is.
Johnny Depp.
He thinks he's on TV.
He just really...
I'm just going to take it away.
I'm not going to...
Don't give him the mic anymore.
You're a full-blown retard, Johnny Depp.
So that's a fun time.
It was made for a good clip, but it's a long ep with a lot of valleys.
Honestly, just the screenshot of all the sitting next to a guy looks exactly like Johnny Depp was fucking worth it.
It was great.
And that's great because that guy, I love that guy.
That guy's a great dude.
He's a really cool guy.
I don't want to say his name for fear of him, I don't know, getting fired from some Disney job.
That was the other great part.
When he came out as a pirate, our big goof was,
do we have a highlight of that?
Where he came on as a pirate,
we found out that he does Disney stuff.
And so we started trolling him about like,
cause he clearly was like,
I can't see,
I can't swear cause I do Disney stuff.
So we started doing,
we started going like,
we showed him Lemon Party
before the Lemon Party podcast.
Oh, that's right.
We made him look at Lemon Party.
Let me try and find that. We made a lemon party.
We did do that. I don't know if it's in this, but at one point I said
pirates love maps.
They love treasure maps. You should see this little
treasure map and it was rub maps.
That's right.
Okay, hold on.
This is
us showing
that you need to see Meetspin. Oh, the whole website changed. They don't even do it. Oh, no. Lemon party, fuck. This is us showing that you need to learn.
The whole website changed.
They don't even do it.
Lemon Party, quick.
Captain Jack, hold on.
Watch Lemon Party real quick.
I forgot how classic an image that was.
Oh, it's wonderful.
For our generation, that was the same as the Iwo Jima picture
where they're putting...
So that's a fun time.
And it's hilarious. The guy literally worked for
Disney and he was coming here and he was doing
domestic abuse jokes for us and saying
he hits Amber Heard and he's doing
cocaine. What a champ.
What a champ. So then there was
an earlier time before that gag.
We only had really two gags here on the Hey, Lodge podcast.
We had Johnny Depp on.
And then, I think maybe the beginning of last year.
This was like two years ago.
Man, 100 Eps takes about two years.
Two and a half, I guess.
This was like a year and a half ago.
Joey found a baby with magical powers.
A baby with the strength of the Hulk.
And his
name is Joshua the Super Baby.
And we got obsessed
with him. Joey is just a...
Joey's like the king of carnival barkers.
And I just like martial arts.
Joey's an incredible showman.
Joey loves PT Barnum
level shit. Joey got obsessed with.T. Barnum level shit.
Joey got obsessed with this kid.
Not the kid.
The kid.
His talent.
But that sounds a weird sentence to say publicly.
Joey's obsessed with the kid.
But you developed a relationship with his father.
Yes.
We found out his father is like the sweetest man of all time, even though he is forcing his baby to become a bloodthirsty maniac
at a young age.
But he was a very wonderful Brazilian
man, and Joey developed a big
relationship with him. And why don't you explain how you
kept telling this
dad that we actually wanted
Joshua the super baby, who's like one years
old, two years old? You actually made a video
of the origin, Tim. Maybe we find that.
I'll try to explain it.
This was right before me. I up and i'll explain i have it i have it but just like
why don't you explain what we were uh what what we were doing how it led led to this yeah your
relationship with the father right so somebody at some point just sent me a link of this little
super baby who had it was like it had like a hundred million views on tiktok or something
and this little one-year-old baby had learned taekwondo from a former brazilian taekwondo master to and he could break boards
and he could do these really technical taekwondo kicks and then i noticed that like at some point
the i looked up the dad and he had a thing in his profile where it was like if you want to work with
us just call me and here's my number and it was like a public number or something. So I just called the number, and he answered.
And I'm like, well, hey, listen.
I happen to represent Hasbulla, the little dwarf.
And he's got a big fight coming up.
But we're thinking about just throwing that fight out.
And it's a much bigger fight to have him fight a little baby.
He fully believed it, too.
Exactly, yeah.
So I'm like, okay, they're the same height,
they're similar weight probably.
I think this is going to be the biggest pay-per-view of all time.
And this Brazilian
sweetheart, he's like, oh yes, brother.
Like, Joshua will kill that little
Jesus fucking Christ.
And I kept saying
like, I kept making him
call
Haspilla a fake baby.
He didn't know
who Haspilla was. The way I explained it to him was like
here's this grown man pretending to be
a little baby. He's not pretending to be
a baby. He's just a little dwarf. He's just a
dwarf. Yeah. So now I've
got them all fired up. So we convinced the dad that there's
another baby out there taking all the fame.
And I said I found a venue in Mexico
where they would let us do the fight and
it's going to be like millions of dollars
for you guys. And he was, the dad
was completely in.
To the point where Joey and I were getting nervous.
We were like, dude, what do we tell this dad that there's
no real fight in Mexico?
Like, we don't got a fight set up. It's illegal.
You can't, we didn't know how to tell him
like, it's illegal for your infant to fight.
I remember Joey was feverishly, weren't you feverishly trying to find an actual venue to have this fight at for a minute?
Yeah, so I looked up, like, first of all, I started checking the big gyms, MMA gyms.
And then I found Higin Meshada's gym, which is a celebrity.
Meshada's gym?
Higin Meshada, he trains, like, action culture and a bunch of big celebrity jiu-jitsu guys.
And they agreed to let us have the Super Baby fight Joshua in their gym.
Like the gym that Ashton Kutcher trains at was going to let this happen.
And they agreed to it.
Everybody agreed.
And the dad wanted it to happen.
And then we didn't have Haspelit involved.
But that's what they thought.
So this is the start of us kind of finding out and trying to do the fight promo stuff,
and then later on, we ended up having Joshua on the show with his father.
We'll show that after this, so check this out.
Joshua is one years old.
This baby's doing this amazing stuff.
He's got tremendous power.
I go to his page, and I find out that his dad runs the page.
Joshua, the super baby.
He's trying to monetize this sensation, the super baby.
He is a sensation.
It's an unbelievable baby.
It's remarkable.
So I call the dad.
I can't believe how good he is, how powerful his kicks are,
and his form is incredible.
I've never seen anything like it at that age.
Thank you so much.
It's amazing.
It's amazing.
It's kind of like, it's incredible.
Like, the masters, like the martial arts masters, they call me all the time.
They say, how, how that happened?
That kid, like...
One other question.
Do you really, by the way, do you really think, are martial arts masters calling his dad and being like, who is this baby?
Probably.
You think so? Really?
Yeah, I think you probably got a few, yeah.
Because a lot of these martial arts masters
they're not rich. They're people who now make a living
training at gyms and a lot of them make
most of their money training kids.
So they're probably just being like how did you get the kids
to be that good? If you could show me how to do that
my gym's going to be amazing.
I kind of worry about baby Joshua though because
you got to let kids decide what
they want to do and what they like.
Oh, yeah.
He hasn't had a chance.
He's always going to feel like he has to be a kicking machine his whole life.
I would say that to them, too, where they get into a private conversation with his dad and his mom.
And I would just be kind of in a roundabout way, just be like, does he ever fuck up any kids at daycare?
No, I know.
Should he know these moves?
Yeah.
And they'd be like, oh, no, brother.
Joshua has a great discipline.
Joshua cutting weight, actually, right now.
He's shredded.
He's cutting down to 14 pounds.
I'd let you go.
So I don't know what the legality of this is,
but would you guys be open to putting Joshua the Super Baby
up against Hasbulla, the Dagestani dwarf,
who is popular online right now?
He's like two feet tall, and he's not that strong.
I think Joshua would probably destroy him.
Man, that's no problem, Josh.
Look at that baby go.
Look at those leg kicks on that baby.
Holy shit.
So this is the dad.
Joshua is only one in six months.
We'll be on the news.
Things around will call attention all over the world.
Look at these hidden bottle caps of bottles.
Amazing, baby.
Yeah, it's pretty crazy.
Whoo, look at that.
Yeah, hit that bucket water jug, kid.
Goddamn right.
Uh-oh.
Hey, hey, hey.
Look at that.
Celebration.
100 eps.
100 eps?
100 eps apps Get in there
Take a seat
We're rehashing the Joshua Super Baby days
God you smell good
What's up everybody
We've forgotten about all the ridiculous gags we've spent money on
And everything we've ever spent money on for this show is completely tanked
That's awesome
What's up five people I managed to keep as fans
That's awesome everybody
Let's re-watch me.
Everybody.
Let's re-watch all my worst
memories.
You had a bit of an addiction, Richie.
How has rehab been, by the way?
Yeah, what's it up?
You learn a lot about yourself.
Parents weekend was rough.
How is Passages Malibu going for you?
I mean, it's expensive, man.
I spent a lot of money to be sober.
Are you still sad about Tom Sizemore passing away?
Your friend?
Your close friend?
Your sensei?
Yeah.
Sizemore passed away?
You didn't know?
I'm sorry you had to find out.
I've been coming out of a bottom, man.
What's been going on?
I don't have phones. I don't have had to find out. I'm coming out of a bottom, man. What's been going on?
I'm on phones.
I don't have any access to anything.
Okay, Richie.
How's Bam Margera doing?
Oh, my God.
My God, he's fatter than ever.
Listen, because I know you're still consumed by addiction but like I know you're doing a little better than
Bam Margera like have you ever have you tried to stray
him the right way well no I'll tell you
I tried I mean are you in his ear at all
because like he's really a problem people think he's
gonna die soon I try you know
everybody tries with him Devin
there's therapists there's fucking
AA sponsors there's people
older than me I don't I'm a newbie.
I'm new.
People have years in recovery, and they're more fit to take care of Bam.
But I just want to say-
Bam needs to want to do it himself.
Yeah.
He does.
You can't force anyone into therapy.
Exactly.
Bam, unless he wants to get sober, he's not going to get sober.
Richie can do whatever he wants.
Richie could talk to him.
He could come up with the wheatgrass shots.
Let him stay on his couch again.
Well, Richie's fine.
Bam is running out of money, but Richie's still living off of that.
You were on that MTV show 11 years ago for like seven seconds,
and the royalties are still helping you, right?
That's right, Devin.
That's 100% right.
And I managed to thank God for them,
those royalties was able to go to Malibu Passages.
And I spent a lot of money to get sober.
But I would like a White Claw, though.
Do you actually?
Oh, shit.
Can you film yourself doing this?
I love feeding an addiction.
Have at it, pal.
Have at it.
Drink up.
How many days do you have before you do that? Yeah, how many days? When was the last time I was on the podcast? Give me your coin, pal. Have at it. Drink up. How many days do you have before you do that?
Yeah, how many days?
When was the last time I was on the podcast?
Give me your coin, then.
Give me your coin.
Oh, man.
I mean, should I?
Yeah, you should have one.
You should have one.
It's episode 100.
It's episode 100.
100 calories.
It's episode 100.
Anything for the AWATS podcast.
Cheers.
To 100 years. To 100 years. Haywatch podcast. To 100 years!
To 100 years!
To 100 years!
Oh, cuz.
Alright. So let's get back
to little Joshua the Superhero. So these are the text messages.
This is Joshua's dad. Yes, I think
we can do a great execution of both them skills
and babies don't get hurt more like a cute
demo fight for all the Orions.
Understand that this is just a big motivation
for all babies and kids that everything
is possible. I see. He was trying to be
like, it's just a demo fight. It's not going to be a
real fight. And then I quickly correct him.
Look at that beautiful
baby.
It's like growing up in front of us.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Let's get to the text.
Do you still see anything on Instagram?
Yeah, I do.
I was on the phone all morning with the...
This is Joey.
I was on the phone all morning with reps from Florida's Athletic Commission.
I talked them down in the age requirement, but they wouldn't go under three years old
for full contact.
Sad.
And yes, I agree
with you. This is going to inspire
babies around the world.
I love how you went to Florida.
You're like, I'm thinking America top team.
The only state that would let this happen.
Okay, yup. And so we will probably have to do it in Mexico or another lawless place.
And also, yes, technically it will be a demo fight, according to the paperwork.
But in reality, we will have to let them loose in the cage, or else we'll get a lot of backlash online for doing a fake fight.
Hasbulla has pillow hands and won't be able to do any serious damage to the super baby.
If he can even survive one of those kicks,
LOL.
But, yup,
pain is temporary, and we'll have the Ring
staff bull veterinarian on site
who is actually probably better or as good as
a real doctor. Yup,
I'm projecting huge worldwide
news attention and big money.
Great job,
Joey. I love you so much.
A bowl veterinarian.
And then Joshua's dad goes,
yes, prayer hands.
Like, woo, we need to get
lots of sponsors for three months
for me to be able to concentrate
on Joshua's training
and also we can film.
The whole training can even generate
more drama to the fight. Oh, yeah. Starry eyes. Hell yeah, Joshua's dad and also we can film the whole training can even generate more drama to the fight.
Starry eyes. Hell yeah
Joshua's dad. He sings stars.
God bless this man. Oh somebody made this.
Then we set up a
November 27th and we all saw that happen
at the Plaza de Monumental de Tijuana
Mexico.
It is hilarious seeing a Dagestani name and a Brazilian name versus each other.
It's just two babies.
It's a perfect matchup, yeah.
So then here's, why don't we explain.
So then we kept going with this bit that was generating little to no traction for us,
but that's what we like to do here.
We like to just stay ourselves.
We capitalize on
stuff that never yields any
views or profit.
We love to capitalize on stuff
that has no profit.
So why don't we explain what happened this
next time? So then, at the end of
the conversations that I was having
with Joshua's dad
and his mom,
they told me they're about to move to Los Angeles
because they're trying to get the baby famous and rich.
And they're like, well, we must take Super Baby to LA
for him to be famous.
Famous action baby.
His dad's blasting the Entourage theme song.
And so I'm like, well, this is perfect.
Let's promote the fight on a podcast.
I have access to this great podcast
that these guys do in LA
called the Hate Watch Podcast. It's going to be huge for you guys. You said you have access. You didn't even act like you're on a podcast. I have access to this great podcast that these guys do in LA. It's called the Hate Watch Podcast.
It's going to be huge for you guys. You said you have
access? You didn't even act like you're on the show. No, yeah, I was acting
like I was just a fight promoter that knew
the podcast. And then so
I'm like, here's what we'll do. That's so
manipulative and awesome.
That's so fucking good. And then to still come out of
this with a great relationship with the father.
We're all copacetic.
We still like each other's shit on Instagram.
Little did this guy know that Joey was completely
manipulating him and
using his
lack of knowing the language against him.
Also, he's actively
trying to exploit his own baby.
I'm like, who am I?
He took the baby on Steve Harvey's show
after this. The baby blew up after
us. I'm not kidding. We literally, we're kingmakers
here. We, the baby
was on, we talked about
the baby after he was on
Hate Watch, like
two weeks later. He's on like Steve
Harvey. He's on like Oprah. He's on like all
these shows. ESPN, the Sports Center.
But so, then I was like, and so
on this podcast, I'm going to get us on this podcast.
I think I can get us on.
And I got Hasbro is going to be on.
I said Hasbro is going to be there too.
And then so what we did is we found like a Dagestani actor on like some LA actor.
You could look up actors and just like filter it by guy has a Russian accent.
I did that.
So I'm like, nobody had a Dagestani accent.
Yeah.
So I found this actor and I talked to him on the phone and I'm like,
what could you do Dagestani? And he
lied and said that he could. He just did a Russian
accent. This guy was an oaf.
We found a complete
Russian oaf that
just makes a little extra cash. It's like
an Uber driver just being a Russian oaf
in weird movies and TV shows.
He's a semi out of work actor who's
been a background guy in John Wick
and shit like that, where it's just like they need
a Russian-looking goon.
So I said, okay, your name, I gave him
a Dagestani name, which I can't remember,
and I said, come in, your character
is you, represent Hasbulla
as his fight promoter, and you're trying
to hype up this fight.
And then so I told,
so we got to this podcast studio that
we rented for this one thing and uh the super baby and his dad his mom showed up first and i said
okay so we don't know if hasbro is gonna show or it's a rep might show we don't know for sure but
so let's just do this show you know if they show they show but not, we'll just kind of do a show together. Yeah. And then the fucking Russian guy is now, and he's just such a classic Russian.
On the way there, he's like, brother, I need another $200 for my driver.
For my driver.
He said he had a driver, and then I remember as Joey tells me that,
Joey walks out of the studio that we rented.
We rented a fucking studio for this bullshit we pay we did all these things for
nothing and so i walk out of the studio we rented and joey's like what is his name bogdan bogdan he
goes bogdan wants 200 more dollars for his driver and i go he think i doesn't have a fucking driver
i look over i see bogdan driving a like jal over. I see Bogdan driving a, like, jalopy.
I see him driving, like, an old Toyota Camry down the alleyway.
He was looking for parking.
He was looking for parking.
And I go, that's him.
He's a fucking driver.
One of his windows is Epoch Times.
Yeah, yeah.
Or whatever that fucking paper is.
Did you pay him?
We didn't give him the extra money.
No, I did.
Yes, I did. You did? What a con in this guy's hole. I had no idea. It wasn't give him the extra money. No, I did. Yes, I did.
You did?
What a con, this guy.
I had no idea.
It wasn't like $200.
It was like $40 or something.
For his driver.
Yeah, for his driver.
But so, then anyways, we start doing it.
The baby is there.
And I guess just play it.
It kind of worked out, I think.
It was a fun moment.
Nobody cares.
But it doesn't even have a thousand views on YouTube.
That's great.
The funniest thing is...
What a life I live.
In my...
Here's our clueless...
Great victory lap we're doing.
That's our victory lap.
Yeah, we really shouldn't walk Devin down memory lane.
It's not a good...
It's not fun.
This 10 years of nothing but fun.
This just shows you how out of the loop i am when it comes to marketing and podcasting
and stuff too is because when this happened like as i'm like well this we're gonna be famous now
i'm like are you guys i'm like is everybody okay with being famous i was i literally was like well
fuck this is gonna do like millions of views yeah yeah we were looking at vacations
it was our least viewed i think maybe our least literally of views. Yeah, we were looking at vacations and Barbados and shit. Joey was very bullish on the
Super Bowl. It was our least viewed
I think maybe our least viewed. Literally our most
hated episode. And everybody hated it.
Everyone hated it. Not hated, there was people that
loved the gag. But they're like, why aren't you
guys watching stuff? Because there's always
wrestling fan people out there that get what
we were trying to do. But
for the most part, people are like, yeah, I like
the show, but I don't know what, because it's
not us. This is my favorite
thing we've ever done and the most fun I've
ever had, but everybody else hated it.
Let's do it.
Who do we have?
Is here, folks. What is this?
Oh my god!
Oh my god!
So we had Joshua come in. He did some
practice kicks on us.
He has had his curbs today.
Joshua's antsy though. He wants to bring something.
He's got a bloodlust, this baby.
Look at him.
Oh my gosh!
Joshua!
Joshua!
The strongest baby in the world!
Oh my goodness. I could watch this all day this is I mean this is domestic abuse oh
you knocked him out Joshua I hate has blow he's a fake baby do you agree Johnny Cage over here.
We suck so much ass.
Look at Joey.
Look at Joey.
He's got the polo.
He's got the black power polo on with the Ray-Bans.
Dude, the next big thing is going to kick a pencil out of my mouth.
The next big thing.
I'm going viral.
It's fraud. That's fraud.
His manager, by the way, is supposed to be here, but I don't know if he's going to show up or not. I'm sure viral. It's fraud. That's fraud. His manager, by the way, is supposed to be here,
but I don't know if he's going to show up or not.
I'm sure he's late.
Oh, shit.
Oh, my God, sir.
I don't have microphones in Dagestan.
Come on, I'm sorry we don't have any cabbage soup for you,
but here's a mic.
I will kill your super baby in one minute,
and we don't want fucking dead babies.
You want your kid get killed.
We don't kill the fucking babies, don't you understand that?
First of all, if anyone dies, it's going to be Hasbulla.
Your fake baby, he sucks.
And don't even talk about death, because the athletic commission is going to be on me about that.
You kill babies, you fuck babies, you all this shit.
Oh my God. Oh my God. Universal remote. commission's gonna be on me about that oh my god oh my god universal remote this guy fucking sucks
so remote on docking station don't you know that daghestani now are the old
champions of the world okay what are you bringing here okay
joshua watch out there's a there's a creepy dagastani man behind you
this guy right there yeah Yeah. Very good.
Look at him.
That is fantastic.
Play to the crowd.
That is just more showmanship than Hasbulla.
Oh, absolutely.
This is not the baby.
What?
Here.
What do you mean that's not a baby?
The baby starts like wailing.
This is the fucking dwarf baby.
Do not curse around the baby.
Hang on.
He broke it fair and square!
He broke the board!
You made him cry!
You are a fucking chicken!
I will see you in court!
Hey, take that info off!
We know you don't have technology like that!
This is a lawsuit! This guy's trying to sue us!
Hey, here's what I think about that!
Get out of here!
That's what we think about your fake lawsuit? Get the fuck out of here. That's what we think about your fake lawsuit.
Get out of here, bitch.
Get the fuck out of here.
Get the fuck out of here.
Get the fuck out of here.
Get the fuck out.
Get the fuck out of here, pussy.
I'll kick your ass, bitch.
Touch a baby?
Fucking pussy.
Fuck you.
The promoter guy, you see, the promoter guy run away
when he said Josh is not a baby.
He's not a baby. He's not a baby.
He saw Joshua kick the board.
His dad really thought the guy thought that he was claiming that Joshua was a fake baby.
That's a thing that we made the guy say.
Can you believe that guy thinks he's dwarf?
Yeah, afterward we had to like calm him down.
Yeah, we did. He was like wanting to pee
that guy's ass. We were like,
we paid him. It's okay.
No, we never told him. Oh, we never told him?
Oh, to this day. Still thinks that all happened.
We're just like, he's trying to promote the fight. He's just doing what he can do
to promote the fight.
Don't take it personally.
He said Josh is not a baby.
He thought Joshua was an adult.
He's got the Brazilian toxoplasmosis.
He's freaking out right now.
Oh my God!
Joshua! Joshua!
Joshua! Joshua!
Joshua!
Joshua! Joshua!
That's probably the most
traumatic experience of that baby's life.
Standing at a table
looking at a bunch of strangers chanting at him.
It looks like a human sacrifice.
A Dagestani man
was just saying
that he's going to get killed
by a midget.
There's a giant Dagestani oaf
in the room
going,
we fucking killed babies!
We all did it for a gag
and just traumatizing
a thug and infant.
Well, that's what we do
here with Punk Rock.
By the way, somebody on the internet, I saw a comment said, why do they
have to piss so much? The answer is
I guess because we're drinking
beers all the time. I don't know what to tell you.
I bet they're constantly hydrating.
That's the answer.
I just can't believe that
guy couldn't have worn a shirt or
a tie or he came in like a fucking
tank top.
He looked homeless, man.
So been going through some stuff.
There's a couple things.
I don't want to start some of these without Joey here.
But Judge Joe Brown is he's in the news.
Apparently he was on a show with Kwame Brown.
Really?
And he what did he do?
He said something
where he hates,
Talking about Michelle Baum?
Kamala Harris.
Yeah, he's going off
on Kamala Harris.
Yeah.
And,
we'll play that another time,
but like,
we had a big
Judge Joe Brown period
of the show.
This is kind of when
John first got out,
I think.
And so apparently,
somebody told me to go
to this episode.
Why didn't you tug it, son? on the Devon Costa channel when we were we
used to have our hate watch episodes and I don't remember what this is but
somebody said it was funny so we'll see let's go and gets away with anything in
my court I will find you $25 if you don't have a collar on your shirt it's $50 $50 on life I think
this is when you started with the light chilling at my house we were supposed to
go hook up with some girls it was me him and his cousin and basically Michael he
got upset well he wasn't even upset but but he just was playing too much. He still got that puffer jacket on. All of a sudden, he ended up pouring out.
Oh, you know I got that jacket, pal.
So, I guess nobody that listens to the show doesn't know what the Tuggett guy is by now, right?
I think there are people who are out of the Tuggett loop.
They're out of the Tuggett loop?
Yeah.
Let me explain it real quick, John, for a second.
Because this is like, this is,
we're just doing jokes.
This is the period of time
we were doing tug-of-the-guy jokes.
Yeah, cum jokes.
So the tug-of-the-guy was like,
John and I went on a road trip.
We drove out.
I drove him back from Atlanta.
We went to a Cracker Barrel.
We were sleep-deprived,
hungover,
wacky.
Came up with this big bit
where, like,
there's a crazy man.
We had the worst meal ever
at a Cracker Barrel.
We were thinking about ways it could be worse. And the way we thought we could be worse is if devon got a country fried steak and instead of just eating the country fried steak
an old man came out from the kitchen pulled his cock out asked if you wanted extra gravy
then came on the steak and then shot you in the head and then he goes time to die
he comes out he goes you want some gravy and his cock
is rock hard
and he comes on
your steak
and then he goes
time to die
and he blows
your brains out
for like a 30 day
that's what we
thought of that
cracker
this is the type
of stuff that we
do here
and this is the
type of
this is why
we fucking
are killing it
because the
consumption
of alcoholic
beverages
that was going
on
right
I had some
liquor in my refrigerator.
But you're over 21, so what?
You're entitled to.
Yes, sir.
He's not, but go ahead.
And basically, he got my lotion off my kitchen table
and he just started pouring it on the floor.
As you can tell, we were really concerned
about the listeners at this period of time.
I'm literally playing I'm just like
playing with a can. We don't even have
the video on the screen.
Dead homies. Then he got my
liquor.
This feels like it's somehow community
service.
This looks like
detention for podcasters.
A judge sentenced you to do 100 podcasts.
That's your point.
You have to do 100 podcasts.
This episode kind of feels like we're getting a big release.
We're finally done.
Yeah, like we walk out, there's going to be a bunch of other white losers that are like,
you popped your cherry.
At the end of this, we're all taking our ankle bracelets
But little do these people know we've become institutionalized
Stop
Tommy act like it was not important. So I felt disrespected.
There's a reason for everything, dude.
Devin, fucking pause the video.
Make a joke.
There's a reason for everything.
And Judge Joe Brown, basically, he poured the liquor and the lotion on my floor.
Said it was for his dead homies.
So basically, he put the lotion in the bucket.
Yeah, that was great, Devin.
You suck.
I told him that I was... I'm like nodding off in the fucking corner. I wasn't even on it no more. Yeah, that was great, Devin. You suck.
I'm like nodding off in the fucking corner.
How come you look like a gay lumberjack?
Look at you.
You look like you fuck logs. Look at my fucking hairline, dude.
You look like you shove logs up your ass.
It looks like I got brain surgery.
This dude came out with an apron on.
No pants. He pulled his apron up so he said
you want some more lotion on your carpet you want some more lotion on your carpet
so i was there in the living room and he was pouring out liquor for his dead home
is this when he came out with tugget-It-Cut? Or Tug-It-Cut. Tug-It-Cut. Okay, lovely. The Crip Tug-It guy.
He's defending himself.
So I said, do your dead homies want some gravy?
I'm at my establishment, right, Judge?
I'm at the crib, Judge.
This fella right here.
I'm at the crib.
So I look at him and I say, I'm at the crib, Ma.
I'm at the crib, right, ma?
And my partner over here says he wants to give me some gravy.
My co-defendant says he wants some gravy on the carpet.
And this other feller to my right says he porned it out for his dead homies or whatnot.
And I say, you know what you would do?
I'd dunk my pecker for our dead homies. I'm so happy that our fan base has put up with this bullshit.
I can't believe the people.
Devin and I have thought that was the height of comedy for like three months.
Was an idea of an old man.
I'm not kidding.
John and I were like, yeah, life sucks, but the tugget guy guy kicks ass weird joint just literally only to stop
i mean people seem to like it i guess i don't know shorts on this guy's socks real high he goes
he pulls up he pulls up one of those bicycles
big handlebars. With the high handlebars.
But he still has
snow pants on.
He has an apron
and snow pants
and he has a giant erection.
He rides in his car room.
He's got Air Force Ones on.
I saw it.
And no pants.
But he's got pigtails.
He's got Snoop Dogg pigtails.
Oh, no.
The evolution of the Tughead.
This is when John was running the show.
You got to get back to this level, buddy.
I'm going to make this an uncomfortable moment for you.
I know you're having a good time watching yourself.
You need to be better like this.
Listen, bud.
Maybe it's a Native American thing
where they said if you cut their hair,
they could no longer navigate the woods.
Did you lose your powers with the hair?
I think that was Samson.
When you shave a dog.
Maybe he lost his hair.
Go back to the chemo hair.
Yeah, go back to this. Grow my hair out again Yeah. Go back to the chemo hair. Yeah.
Go back to this.
Grow my hair out again?
You have enough hair to grow it out, dude.
You kind of...
Well, no, I think that's...
You overdo the...
I'm balding.
No, I think that you
should buzz your head
for looks,
but for the show,
it might be better
if you bring back
the late-stage...
I legitimately don't think
John looks better
with a shaved head.
Well, I have an oddly shaped head.
He looks better with his hair.
No, cut to him where you can see the balls.
He's not like hip hop.
He goes, I told this.
I told this.
I'm constantly self-soothing.
That's the thing about it.
I'm constantly rubbing my head.
I do that too.
It's insane.
Well, does that have anything to do with growing your hair back out?
He self-soothes all the hair out. I? He self-soothed all the hair out.
I'm fucking self-soothing the hair out.
I'm rubbing my fucking hair out, bro.
So then you don't want to be bald.
No, that's not why.
I'm bald because of genetics. My father's bald.
But actually, no. John looks way better
right now, obviously.
I disagree.
...to tug it for his
homie.
You know what else is w for his homie. You know what else is?
Gravy.
You know, we need to have another like week or a couple of days where we just go off and we howl at the moon and fucking come up with some other unhinged fucking fantasy.
Yeah, let's do it.
We haven't had anything like that in a while.
It's going to fucking road trip.
Yeah, we'll go on a road.
I mean, we're going to come up with one in South Dakota for sure.
Oh, yeah.
By the way, if this isn't a satisfactory 100th episode to you fucking maniacs that are judging
a nothing show like we're the Sopranos, we're trying to do a trip somewhere for maybe July
4th or something.
We don't really know.
I've got one of the days secured.
I'll be good.
We were thinking Rapid City, but Joey kind of is like at odds with everybody in that town.
Yeah, Joey's got a...
I'm at odds with all my friends from South Dakota.
Brock from the show who's been on the podcast.
He's called in on Bone Crusher.
I said, hey, July 4th, plan something fun.
We're all going to come.
And then like two weeks later, he's like,
oh, dude, we're going
to Denver
to drink in Denver
on that time instead.
That's like what
the equivalent of people
in South Dakota, that's their version of
backpacking through Europe.
I'm driving to Denver to see what the denver bars are like
and now they all it sucks denver fucking sucks denver's terrible everyone there looks like they
cut their own hair it's yeah it's probably fine but uh it's not a vacation and it's not nearly
a good enough excuse to to ditch fucking devon john anyone on earth ever said I'm going to vacation in Denver?
It's,
they just,
they're six hours away.
Snowboarders.
You go to Aspen.
It's really,
you go to Aspen.
Yeah,
you go to vacation in Denver.
Yeah,
nobody goes,
you go to Denver,
you stay there
and then you drive
into like Breckenridge.
vacation in Denver,
everybody.
Come on.
Vail,
Colorado.
We're doing so well.
We're all,
so I can't tell
if this gets funnier,
but we'll play for like,
like 15, 20 more seconds.
Earlier today, I felt disrespected.
When he made me tuck it.
He goes, tuck it.
I was like, I don't know what this dude up to.
We all were supposed to see some girls.
You know what I'm saying?
All right.
I've had enough of this.
Next clip. I did it. I saw your thing on Reddit and to see some girls. You know what I'm saying? All right, I've had enough of this. Next clip.
I did it.
I saw your thing on Reddit, and I went to it.
Thank you.
Show biz party.
I think in this clip, Joey threatens to kill the president.
Or the mayor or something.
And now, because it's on Patreon, I'm wondering if we should put it,
if we should listen to it.
We're protected by 1A, as we all know.
Okay, 1A.
I don't know how to tell her that it would be over for us if anyone were to try something.
Oh, no, no.
This is about me telling my girlfriend that if somebody were to break in, she would be
raped and killed.
I would be killed in front of her, and then she would be raped, and then I would have
nothing to do.
There's no point in waking you up to go do something or look for something. What do you think I would be killed in front of her and then she would be raped and that I would have nothing to do. There's no point in waking you up to go.
Yeah.
When she's like,
somebody's there.
I'm like,
what do you think I would do?
So this is like a big joke about that.
And that like event,
like the,
the guy would eventually just like start like embarrassing me in front of her.
I think she,
you know,
it's hard.
It's,
it's tough to deal with the fact that you're not a real man.
That's a tough thing.
I don't know what to tell her.
I'm like,
what do you think?
I'm going to fucking go learn something. It's like, I get tell. I don't know what to tell her. I'm like, what do you think? I'm going to fucking go learn something?
It's like, I get a gun.
And even if I get a gun,
it's like if somebody,
if something were to really happen suddenly,
you don't have time to like run in
and grab the gun box and undo the code
and then load it.
Like you'd be dead by then anyway.
You know what I mean?
Even though I'm pro-gun.
So I don't know.
I don't know what to tell her.
When she asked me that question, I really wanted to just look at her
and be like, listen, I will be killed
in front of you. You'll be
raped and then killed.
And I don't know what else to say. I have
no plan here.
Well, you'll live. You know, it almost happened
to Kim Kardashian. You know, it could happen to you.
Maybe we'll live. Maybe they'll let us live.
Those fucking hooligans. Let's hope they just come in, you know, it could happen to you. Maybe we'll live. Maybe they'll let us live. Those fucking hooligans. Let's hope
they just come in, box you
in, slap you around.
Yeah. Rape everybody.
Knowing me, they'll come in,
they won't steal anything, they'll just give me a
wedgie and like low bridge me.
And then just be like, they'll just like
fuck me in the ass in front
of my girlfriend, like deliverance.
They'll just be like, squeal! squeal like a piggy and i'll be like
like looking like my eyes are locked in with my with with with my girlfriend's eyes i'm staring
right into her soul as i squeal as i get fucked in the ass by home invaders and then they'll
they'll leave nothing happens to her they compliment her looks and they go like, you should really find a new boyfriend.
And then they
leave. That's probably
how it's going to go, knowing my luck.
I won't even get killed knowing my luck.
Like, please kill me.
Yeah, I'll be, after
they rape me, I'll be like, okay!
I'm ready! Do it!
And they'll be like, we're not killing
you, fag.
And then they leave. We, we're not killing you, fag. And then they leave.
We're just gonna rape you, freak.
And then they leave
and then the rest of my life
is even worse
because I'm now,
my girlfriend,
like she packs her bags
the next day.
She's like, I couldn't.
That was just too hard to witness.
You're not a provider.
They raped you.
Yeah, she'd have to leave you.
You did nothing.
You looked right into my eyes
as they raped you.
I mean, I'll-
I have to leave.
And then the rest of my life,
I'd have that on my conscience.
I'd be like, yeah, I mean, I wish I was killed.
This is the laziest thing.
This is the laziest part. I like how we're acting like
we're doing a big special 100th
episode. So we've put all this work
in. Joey, do you not understand the
concept? We put it out there and they
sent us these things to watch.
Yeah, but we asked them to send us stuff.
It was our idea.
And they were like, okay, we'll play along.
What else are you supposed to do for some bullshit like this?
This is fine.
You didn't like Devin's rant?
I love the rant, but I don't love us listening to the rant
and just going like, yeah, that was a funny little goof.
So you want to change the narrative?
We've already shitted ourselves throughout this.
We've done this like three times and it's been fine. This is just
one where... It's funny when
we're making fun of ourselves.
Alright, why don't we get into it?
You remember when you had a terrible COVID opinion?
False argument, episode 14.
You and Richie, you were proven
wrong. Time has passed and I was correct.
I feel like my opinion got muddled a little bit.
Before you play.
Can't wait for this shit. Mine got tied in with Joey's, and at a certain point, I veered from Joey.
And then even Richie was against Joey.
And then Joey still brings this up to this day.
He's like, I was talking about business rights.
I wanted to save people.
Or private companies having rights, and they can do whatever they want.
If I could save a life, I would save a life.
Because you actually were a libtard cock in this clip.
You a libtard cock? L this clip. You broke the blue wall.
No, so not true at all.
And what you're about to hear, and Devin's such a fucking brain dead moron.
The reason this episode is called False Argument is because I introduced a hypothetical situation.
Oh, you're playing devil's advocate.
But it had nothing to do with what we're talking about. I'm playing devil's advocate.
No, and I'm trying to explore just how crazy
Devin is because he kind of became like
one of these alt-right Trump dudes that was just
I'm not crazy. I was completely correct and I've been
deemed correct now. I was
completely right and you guys were wrong.
It's out now. It's over.
I was right. You were wrong. No, but you keep
pretending like I was on the side of Fauci. I spoke truth to power.
You guys went with the sheep. Bah! Bah! That's my friends here. No, but you keep pretending like I was on the side of Fauci. I spoke truth to power. You guys went with the sheep.
Bah.
Bah.
That's my friends here.
No, you were like an 8chan retard.
I wasn't.
I was correct.
We were going to agree with you.
I literally was correct.
We were going to agree with you on January 6th, but you were nowhere to be found.
I ended up being correct.
Where are we now?
Jamie Foxx is in the hospital because of the COVID booster.
Oh, fuck off.
Jamie Foxx is like dying right now.
Really?
They're killing Foxx?
I saw an MSN.com article saying it's after the COVID vaccine. He has a brain clot and he like dying right now. Really? They're killing Foxx? I saw an MSN.com article saying
after the COVID vaccine he has a brain clot
and he's paralyzed right now.
They killed Jamie Foxx.
Here's what happens in this episode.
Devin keeps trying to do a retarded straw man thing
where he's pinning all of Fauci's opinions
on me.
All I say, and the reason this episode's titled
False Argument is because I introduced this scenario.
It's a funny joke. I made a funny thing.
It was funny. No, it wasn't.
But you're retarded. Like, logically, it makes no sense.
Devin, don't give in.
No, I'm just, I'm satisfying him.
Okay.
Oh, his ODD's flaring.
He's upset about being wrong, and he's got to get more comments when we listen to this,
more than he got on when we originally did it.
Because there were less listeners.
Right, so he's doubling down on his
bad opinion on this.
I'm correcting Devin's
imagination about how
this actually went down by introducing
reality to people and telling them an
accurate account of what actually happens here
because Devin's going to keep trying to spin it.
Why don't we fucking play this thing?
We got it right here.
So Devin's allowed to
weave a narrative about how this goes.
And I'm going to do that too really fast.
So I introduced this.
I go, okay, listen, I think the vaccine's stupid as fuck.
I agree with you.
It's similar to just being a regular cold.
I was also not saying that.
I'm saying it shouldn't be mandated,
and it shouldn't be a thing where businesses care whether you're unvaccinated or not because we had there
was no difference in spreading covid it made no sense this is fucking america and i totally agree
well in america private businesses should have the right to make decisions on their own like not
hiring black people or something no it's not a private decision uh decision they can make
you could do whatever you want that's like a stupid thing well no it's not a private decision uh decision they could make that's bad business like yeah you could
do whatever you want that's like a stupid thing well no like uh discriminated against groups do
have right discriminating against unvaccinated people yeah discriminating and and pretending
that they're gonna kill people yeah when we went on to find out that it has no effect
if you're unvaccinated that's that person's decision. They're allowed to go have a fucking drink,
and you turned it into a thing where it's like,
we need to be afraid.
Like, we can kill that guy,
so we should leave the bar
because he's unvaccinated if he's in there.
Like, that matters.
People decide to do things all the time.
Well, there are protected classes.
Like, for sure, people who are minorities
that are getting discriminated against,
they should have protection
and they do so there are like there are new laws that have been introduced that say like you're
allowed to kick people out of your business if they are you know they don't have a shirt on but
you can't do it if they're black right so there's a reasonable standard for who you're allowed to
kick out of your business based on hey you own a private business if this is going to hurt your
business then don't do it.
So in America at this point in time, especially in Los Angeles, there was a huge population
that was saying, we don't want to go to places that aren't taking these certain precautions
to avoid this disease, which is maybe dangerous, maybe not.
In my opinion, I thought it was, I always stood by similar to like a common cold, but
I said they definitely should still have the right to open a business, own a building, a private business, and make rules like this.
No matter how retarded these rules are.
That's what it turned into after you knew you lost the original point.
No, it was always this.
Why don't we play the argument?
I wasn't arguing private businesses being able to have their own laws or whatever.
I was saying this thing where all of a sudden in the country at this time, they were pretending like, well, we're vaccinated.
We get to go into the bar, but no unvaccinated people because unvaccinated people kill you.
But it doesn't make sense because if we're vaccinated, we're protected.
It made no fucking sense.
Why would the business care if you're
unvaccinated and you want to come in?
It makes no sense.
It was all bullshit.
My point was, it doesn't have to make sense.
They should be allowed to not make sense.
As long as it's not discriminatory
against disenfranchised...
No, as long as it's not discriminatory...
It was discriminatory against
half the population.
That's not a disenfranchised
group of people.
I think the argument here now is
It is.
A lot of people that maybe
didn't want to have blood clots
and didn't want to get a vaccine
that was forced on them.
They have the freedom
to not go to private businesses
just the way that private businesses
have the freedom
to not allow them in.
Since when do you,
if you know,
if you,
if you're drunk
and you're not allowed in a bar,
you throw a fit.
You guys could do a whole episode on this.
Yeah, this is pretty crazy.
I think the argument is what happens
when there's a new protected class being born, essentially.
I haven't listened to this since we did it,
so I don't remember,
but I remember feeling like Joey pivoted the argument
to a private business thing,
and even Richie then turned and was like,
well,
I,
you were actually kind of,
you were a libtard too,
but like,
don't say two.
I was saying the virus is dumb the whole time.
There's nothing wrong with being liberal or conservative.
You know,
I don't know why.
I think you're both.
That's very weird.
I love both.
I love both.
It seems like you're not in the middle.
Devin's not in the middle.
That's fine.
I'm okay with that. I love both. I'm just like a fan of politics and like people's opinions. And I just love both. It seems like you're not in the middle. Devin's not in the middle. I'm just a fan of politics
and people's opinions.
I love them all.
I'm like a guy that loves the NBA.
I love every team.
I watch it all the time.
I'm pro-freedom.
I don't want the government
telling me what to do
in any circumstance.
I wear politics.
I got Republican, Democrat.
I got a big back-to-back
championship jersey. Republicans, Democrats. I love the government and politics, Democrat. I got like a big back-to-back championship jersey.
Like Republicans, Democrats.
I love the government and politics, baby.
Hey, if it's a crime to not want the government to tell me what to do,
take me to jail.
Go ahead.
You were in favor of that in this argument.
No, I was saying the government shouldn't be allowed to tell private businesses
what they're allowed to do for their policies about letting people live.
You had some whole thing about killing people or saving lives. This was a
policy enacted by a government.
No, the government didn't. That was never enforced
by the government. Private businesses,
federally. There was a period of time where every single
place had to abide by
you have to be vaxxed. It was never
federally enforced. I didn't go to a single place
where I didn't have to show my vax card throughout that period.
It was never federally enforced. I could have gone
into fucking Bubba, the Love Spes fucking rib fuck shack fucking we fuck
hookers all night and do coke on a pool table they made you show your vax card i was in the
deep south they made you show your fucking back we had to show our back that's well in south
dakota there was never any required for an ass-fixing.
You live in a lawless land.
You might as well live in international waters.
You live in a bullet farm in Mad Max.
It's a completely different place.
And so I'm defending places without those requirements,
and now it's kind of like a foggy, murky argument.
All right, let's listen to this, then.
Relax.
I'm just saying you're trying to spin this into a thing that I wasn't arguing.
We can listen to it.
Because it was the first place I've been.
I went to a place in San Francisco with Brian.
All my brothers who support freedom, sound off in the comments.
They wouldn't let me walk to the bathroom.
Or they wouldn't let my friend walk to the bathroom.
Because Brian was vaxxed
but he didn't have it on his phone
and we walked up to just go into this place
and they, I had it
but they wouldn't let him in. They wouldn't
let Brian go use the bathroom, like walk down
these stairs. Shame on you for giving them
your business. You should not have done it.
We went to an old bar.
It was the only way to do anything.
Take a shit.
If you're sitting in your private bathroom at home,
stop supporting a goddamn
private business with crazy policies.
San Francisco's covered in shit.
These places have crazy policies
and you're supporting them.
Have a backbone.
Don't support businesses with crazy policies.
Joey's ODD is kicking in.
This is wonderful to watch.
It's like Irish coffees. This's called the Buena Vista.
This is like the ODD watching the ODD.
This is like the Terminator watching the Terminator.
It's the C-1000 and the T-2000.
Who's this fucking drunk idiot?
Oh, what a... Shut up!
False argument. What the fuck is a hypothetical
situation, you fucking idiot?
And they have this outdoor seating,
but the inside's great.
And we go up to the front, and this little fucking twerp
comes up to us, and he goes,
proof of vaccination.
Oh, jeez.
And I was like, whoa, this is happening?
This was already, I was getting real
stop the steely.
I was just revving up. I took my shirt off like Superman, and I had a stop Stop the Steely. I was just revving up.
I took my shirt off like Superman.
I had a Stop the Steal shirt on.
It made me a little upset.
But I did have my proof.
My friend didn't.
Because it's like, what the fuck?
It is.
We're now being asked to show our papers.
This is Nazi Germany, folks.
I was waiting for that.
I was waiting for that.
What's the difference between that and Nazi Germany?
Tell me!
I went to a bar,
they pulled out my fillings!
It was insane!
It's crazy! That bar,
I had my grandfather
in a wheelchair there, they took him to the top
floor, they threw him right out of his wheelchair.
Nazi Germany, I tell you.
No, it was just kind of creepy, you know?
And then I asked if I can go to the bathroom,
and the guy, like, made a point to say, like, multiple times, like,
mask on, over mouth, and nose.
And I was like, this is fucking...
I know you hate what we're doing here.
Not this clip, but just, like, the watching.
This is interesting.
This one is. Because this is... but just the watching. This is interesting.
It's crazy to even remember a time like this.
This is interesting. I didn't like us
just being like, hey, remember Tug of Game?
I like that.
Well, it's a celebration, folks.
Didn't the fans send the clips?
They sent me that clip.
Yeah, that's the thing.
Yeah, let's go on one commenter.
Let's base the show on that.
No DD kicks in again.
I was going to say, no matter who says anything to him or what it is, you're wrong.
All right.
A little gross.
It's just annoying.
I don't like that.
With a mask?
No, I don't like the mandate thing.
The attitude.
I don't like the attitude.
Also, who the fuck are they protecting?
The attitude.
I don't like the attitude. Also, who the fuck are they protecting?
If you're unvaccinated and you're going out to bars,
what the fuck does a bar care if you get sick?
Right.
Why do they care?
Like, literally, if my friend wasn't vaccinated,
why do they care if he comes inside and gets COVID?
Are they saying he can spread it more?
Well, now you're generating the urge.
Well, they don't want him to die.
Who gives a shit about him?
Now you're generating the urge. They serve they don't want him to die. Yeah, now you're generating Who gives a shit about him? Now you're generating
the argument.
They serve alcohol.
They care about people's health.
I mean, they might not want
somebody to die
a horrible death.
Yeah, now you're generating
the argument for the vaccination.
They'll never know.
This whole idea about
knowing where people get it,
nobody knows where they get it.
Who cares?
It's a free-for-all.
Well, they have it.
I don't know, Devin.
You lost me there.
No, I didn't lose anybody how am i wrong
so far i don't disagree it was completely well no i make a point at that time saying that being
honest deemed you completely fucking insane so what i say is like i'm being completely honest
that's a fucking fact all all anything in this country is if enough Mondays go by,
we just forget what we fucking
fake cared about.
Everyone tries to start acting like they were never a part
of this cult.
Joey, are you the ones going up against the grain?
Everything. Thank you, John.
I'm loving you tonight. Love you, buddy.
Devin, you're a real bipolar
with me tonight. It's pretty enhanced.
I'm kidding.
The point that I actually make is not that, oh, this is a deadly virus.
What I introduce is if it is possibly, let's just pretend.
It is a deadly virus.
I knew that at the time.
I wasn't unaware of it.
If it's as deadly as some people, as these hysterical people think, if it is, why take the risk?
But go ahead.
Because they were virtue signaling.
These are liberal virtue signals and they like control. They like the risk? But go ahead. Because they were virtue signaling. These are liberal virtue signals, and they like control.
They like the government.
They like mandates.
They like forcing things on people now.
They've completely flipped.
Liberals now are like early 2000s fucking Republicans.
They're into war.
They're into government.
It's nonstop.
They just want, you know.
It's a practice run for fascism.
That's what the fucking COVID is.
I'm heavily against all government sanctions in this whole podcast whole podcast listen to it at home by the way if
you don't get this but listen to the whole thing the whole my biggest point throughout the whole
thing is uh being against government control so whether that means the government's allowed to uh
you know not let people test if they want to at a bar or see a card. I said, okay, listen, that's crazy.
Let them do it if they
want to ruin their business.
I lose you. Listen to
what I am saying.
If you're vaccinated, Tim got
it. He's vaccinated, but he didn't get super
sick. He's not in the hospital. And they say the vaccination
is keeping you from having
it, you know, the old COVID where it really
fucking almost kills you. Is that about Tim Robbins? We all got vaccinated, right? Tim Robbins. say the vaccination is keeping you from having it you know the old covid where it really fucking
almost kills you was that about tim robbins we all got vaccinated right tim robbins so this is
an indoor bar and they're asking for proof of vaccination so everyone in there's vaccinated
so what do they care if an unvaccinated person is in there they don't want them to die a horrible
death what are you talking about what that's exactly why they care because they got vaccinated
yeah they don't want...
Just because somebody's, you know,
irresponsible and they didn't get the vax,
that doesn't mean they want them to die. But everyone can spread it
the same way. If you're vaccinated, you could spread...
Yeah, it's pointless. You guys are...
You guys are wrong here. Keep playing.
You're just simply wrong. Just as easily
as an unvaccinated... No, not wrong
because my... The subtext
here is... Vaccinated people, the subtext here is vaccinated people.
I think it came out
vaccinated people are dying
more than unvaccinated.
It came out,
but their immune systems were.
But at the time,
with the info that we had,
it's saying like,
hey, if this is deadly,
then they don't want that.
At this time,
we had the info
that it spreads just as easily.
If you're vaccinated,
it spreads.
If you're unvaccinated,
it spreads.
Being vaccinated
doesn't stop it from spreading.
We had that info at the time and that's why I was like, well, then what do we care? If a you're unvaccinated it spreads being vaccinated doesn't stop it from spreading we had that info at the time and that's why i was like well then what do we care if a guy
if a guy's unvaccinated and at this time we did this episode if somebody was unvaccinated they
made the decision to not be vaccinated they don't want it but they should they want to go out because
they're living their life which a ton of it's everyone's doing now so there's no fucking
difference you're wrong no the implication here was that if it is a very
deadly virus which i don't know that's what i'm saying i don't know if it is but if it is
perhaps we should prevent people from you know killing themselves by irresponsibly hitting no
it i okay there was an info war going on at the time ultimately it had nothing to do with that
it was about looking at unvaccinated people they want them to die all vaccinated people at that
time that were
on to this type of shit making you show your papers really proud of turning people away that
weren't vaccinated they they laugh at you dying they loved it they took glee in it it was sick
and we've moved right on from it but that's the same fucking mentality that that these people
running this place have yeah it made It had no logic put into it.
It was just a us versus them thing.
And you guys are right wing assholes if you don't want to shove something that was made in nine months into your fucking arm twice in a month.
The actual logic that was going into it put forth by these businesses.
I agree with you.
It wasn't some altruistic.
I want to protect people
from dying. What it actually was
is I want to make the decision
that is best for my business.
Is there a liability issue? It was a political thing.
It was that we're better than you.
If you're unvaccinated
at our door, you're a right-wing lunatic.
You're a fucking hick, piece of shit,
retard, and you don't deserve to come
into our bar because
you're gonna kill we're gonna make up we're gonna we're gonna redefine the facts we have we're gonna
make up that you're gonna make us sick even though we have the shield yeah that absolutely no you're
gonna kill my grandma it was a political fucking like it was just a show of like virtue and bullshit
and it was a it was liberal nonsense it was i'm better
than you you're lower than me you can't come in that's not true at all so that is 100 there was
a lot of virtue signaling happening but the the reason virtue signaling is bad is because it's
people practicing what they didn't actually preach in this scenario with these private businesses
if you know anyone with the private business and and all these guys are like, oh, they're already probably not making that much money on these businesses.
They're choosing.
So they're not making money, but they can afford to lose business off of a political stance?
From their point of view.
They can afford to turn people away from their bar, but they're doing badly, and it's hard.
From their point of view,
they're basically saying
right now in Los Angeles,
where everybody's all,
San Francisco, even better for my point,
these ultra-liberal places,
they, our customer
base wants precautions.
So we're going to lose business.
They would never know if they
ask for your Vax card, they show it.
And if they're not vaxed, they let them in.
Who's at the bar standing around going, who was asked?
Who was vaxed next to me while I get hammered on poison?
This is nonsense, Joey.
You're just defending something for no reason at this point.
No, no, no, that's not true at all.
So the people who are saying that are yuppies from San Francisco,
these super liberal, sensitive guys,
where they get together to plan their weekend with each other,
and they go like, well, what's the bar?
Is there any bars that are being safe about this?
And they go, okay, that bar is.
And so that's where they all go.
If they were still allowed to do this to this day,
they'd do the same fucking thing.
They would literally be putting unvaccinated people in fucking cars.
They ended the fucking, like, it's not a national emergency anymore.
They ended, they repealed all the things.
And they also ended it with all the...
They would just be, like, literally killing their business as they do now.
At this time, they were riding the wave of momentum.
Exactly.
At that time, it was the most, it was the profitable decision.
You're acting like it's for the reason you're saying it's not.
It was to feel better than people.
I don't think you know enough business owners.
You don't know enough business owners.
When it comes down to making money, everyone's politics go out the fucking window.
They go like, okay, we're deciding our politics based on what's going to make our lives the most comfortable.
And that's why if you go out into like Brentwood, in the heart of the most liberal fucking city in America, everyone's a Republican.
Because they're all rich people, and they're all protecting their own interests.
Yeah, no rich people live in San Francisco.
They're making the same decisions.
That's what I'm saying.
They're doing the exact same thing.
They're like, we own a business.
We know it's fake.
It has nothing to do with the actual reason that you started with.
Right, yeah, but they're just...
But that's my point.
No, they're making decisions based on this is the most profitable decision right now no
small businesses in america vaccine mandates almost eliminated
businesses they're not making a business decision they're making a political decision to look good
and look like they're virtuous and they actually don't care that they're hurting themselves because
they'd rather look good in the eyes of the people at this time
when you were looked at by the majority as like,
I'm better than you.
No, so the way this unfolded...
John, shut the fuck up. I'm trying to make a point.
So the way this unfolded is that this worldwide crisis came out,
and because of that, everyone is now... it's a fear-mongering tactic.
You know, not tactic, but it was a definite fear-mongering happening with the media.
So because of that, all of the businesses that have, like, street traffic instantly got fucked.
And there was a government mandate to shut them all down.
So that's what killed small businesses.
When they opened back up, now these businesses... They made it even harder
on them. No, no.
Put the knee on the neck a little more.
Oh, that's an odd...
That used to be a
saying before fucking George Floyd.
Oh, my bad. Okay, my bad. Can we stop?
My bad. I didn't know. I know you love
porn stars that tried to kill pregnant
women. What?
I'm kidding. Oh, whoa, Debbie. Whoa? I'm kidding. Oh, oh, oh.
Whoa, Debbie.
Whoa.
I'm kidding.
I actually like George Floyd.
Okay, but it's...
Actually, I really like George Floyd.
You check off to his porn.
I did look at it once.
He checked off to it.
It was rough to watch because I knew he was dead.
It's hard to watch dead people.
At this moment, soundboards are cheap, but it'd be great to have, like, he died crying
like a little bitch.
Yeah.
I was just –
Yeah, watching George Floyd's porn is like watching a –
I just said that for the sake of saying it, but, like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, so, again, like, I'm being very –
Love Floyd.
I'm the only one being consistent with my arguments here, but so when the government made these mandates to shut down businesses, that's what killed businesses.
Let me finish.
Okay. And then when they reopened them and they had these recommended sanctions, now in these liberal cities,
these private businesses had to make a decision about the best way to open
back up.
They didn't have to make a decision.
They loved that.
They had to make this decision.
They loved it.
They were all miserable.
Not these places,
not in San Francisco,
not in LA.
They loved it.
They felt like they were like,
like getting a personality out of it.
Maybe there was a couple of guys that were so rich
they were like, hey, let's flex our politics.
We're so rich
that we don't care about our business. Let's flex
our politics. If they didn't repeal this shit, these people
would still be wearing masks. They'd be fucking loving it.
They cared about moral equity more than actual
fucking money. It was insane. Can I throw a curveball
your way? Yeah, sure.
Hang on. No, no, no.
They did it.
Well, no, because i'm in the
middle that was confident i'm on fucking trial here go for it i'm not putting on trial i'm
putting my opinion i wasn't here for this fucking argument right but so i think that you couldn't
find me one example of somebody who had a private business with they were they were struggling with
money and they decided to make a decision that would hurt them more? Yeah, dude, what are you kidding me, dude?
Yes, half these bars are owned by trust fund kids that, like, don't care.
Half these businesses are open from 3 to 5 p.m.
It's, like, fake.
They're owned by, like, rich kids that, like, don't know what to do with their life,
so they're like, oh, I'm opening up a fucking Jewish deli that serves one sandwich and a pickle,
and we're open for two hours a day.
What are you talking about?
None of these places are owned by these struggling,
some Korean family that's like,
we need to make rent.
You think those Korean places were turning away on vaccinated people?
No, they go, come in.
Exactly.
So that's what they did.
That's what I was saying.
They go, come in.
What did they say after that, buddy?
The small business.
They go, hajima.
Hajima.
So that's your paro, white bitch. Devin keeps agreeing with me, What do they say after that, buddy? The small piece. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that.
Why are you itching?
Devin keeps agreeing with me, but he does it in a cadence where he's like arguing.
So that's exactly what I just said.
It's the guys that were trust fund kids.
They were the ones who were virtue signaling and being like, I'm so proud.
Yeah, but it was wrong and stupid.
Yeah.
Of course.
You didn't say that.
Yes, I did.
That's my whole fucking point.
We get pretty heated here. Listen, that's what they've said. It's like it doesn't stop you from spreading it. Yeah. Of course. You didn't say that. Yes, I did. That's my whole fucking point. We get pretty heated here.
Listen, that's what they've said.
It's like it doesn't stop you from spreading it.
Right.
So they don't want you to come in if you're not vaccinated.
This is like bizarre.
This is the same exact thing we digested.
I keep looking around.
It's an argument within an argument.
How is Devin talking to me right now?
This is like Inception.
Yeah.
From the people that have it.
And you could die a horrible death.
That are vaccinated?
Yes.
But people were allowed to do things before there was a vaccine.
Like, people were going and doing things.
And they weren't asking for proof of anything.
You just replaced Richie's worst argument of all time right now.
But back to back.
I can't even believe it.
The two worst arguments I've ever heard in my life just happened back to back i can't even believe it the two worst arguments i've ever heard in my life
just happened back to back are they afraid to get sued there's been a million people that have died
and who knows the last place they were who fucking cares at this point like i don't understand what
is this like fake you just said a guy infantile like tim dylan got it right and he's vaccinated
so what so if they asked him he got it right And he's vaccinated. So if they asked him for...
He got it.
Right, because he's in Texas and going on tour.
He's not a regular person.
He's not just somebody in San Francisco going to bars.
That's a qualifier, Richie.
You're wrong there.
You want to make sure you're vaccinated if you're going to go in.
Why?
Rich, what's been going on with you lately?
That sounds like a big problem.
Troubling.
Troubling to hear.
Well, what happened?
I don't know.
You said something that I thought was stupid for a second.
Devin, stop looking at it.
I'm trying to save Devin.
What's been going on with me?
I got EBT.
That's been big.
So good.
Is that it?
How much?
A lot.
Skip ahead a little bit.
That can't be it.
Maybe compassionate.
Maybe compassionate. Maybe compassionate.
Maybe scared to get sued.
Either way, great reasons.
At the beginning of all this, they signed something.
See, so even right there, I was just saying like their motivations are possibly being afraid of getting sued.
At no point ever in this whole podcast do I ever go like I think that the deadly virus
is dangerous
I'm just saying like
I'm trying to describe
how private businesses
they're not afraid of getting sued
that's wrong
so let me just end
don't waste your breath
I'm saying if that's why
that's not why
no
you don't know
how do you
what are you in their way
mind you
if they were gonna
early on into COVID
when they opened businesses back up
they signed a thing
that said you can't sue places for getting sick there.
So that has no
value. No, that's not
true at all. It is true. They said you can't
sue businesses and say you got sick there.
I never claimed
that they did. I just said
if people are afraid of that
irrationally, then that's a fine reason.
It's not.
That's wrong. You're wrong right now. That's not a fine reason it's not and that's wrong and you're wrong right now so
then that's not a fine reason so they're making no sense why are you defending dumb people that
own businesses i'm saying people should are dumb they're irrational and that's they make dumb
irrational decisions jimmy mcgill it's like saul goodman right here it's like what is what do you
what about what you think we can't this is right is right. What are you arguing exactly?
What are you arguing for?
What are you arguing?
You can't operate under the assumption
that all human beings are going to
constantly behave in a rational way.
But the majority of these types of people
did this as a show.
As a show of virtue.
And it was bullshit and fake.
That's the point.
You're acting like they have their own personal issue with it and they hey they're
making their own personal decision no they're going with a wave they're going with the dominant
wave at the time which was this type of thinking and i was looked at like a psychopath for having
any fucking thought about it no like all private businesses they're going with the wave that they
think is the best for their business there's, there was a ton that weren't doing this
that were fine.
And jobs did that too.
So they're like the greatest of all time.
You're like the greatest bar of all time.
What is this compassion thing?
Why do you hate compassion so much? Who cares?
It's a personal choice.
Because if everyone's vaccinated,
then the chances are so much lower
instead of having to deal with the like,
I got vaccinated, so I'm slightly less much lower instead of having to deal with the like, I got vaccinated
but I'm slightly less sick, but
I'm still got it. Why even deal with that?
I actually kind of like that.
I got vaccinated. I went through the whole
process and I don't want to deal
with people who are still playing bullshit
politics. At that time, they were also
bad. No, but in retrospect, you were
consumed by the fear.
The fear got to you. It did. It didn't get to me, but the retrospect, you were consumed by the fear. The fear got to you.
It did, it did.
It didn't get to me, but the reason I'm ashamed is because...
Oh, you're ashamed, fucking asshole.
What I'm doing is I'm playing such a devil's advocate.
That you do, bro.
I'm like, here's how logically you're wrong.
Yeah, but to the point where you get angry at me.
I'm getting angry now.
That's why it's a good party.
Go ahead.
I got vaccinated, so I'll show my proof.
I'm pro-vaccination.
Would you be afraid to be around an unvaccinated person?
Oh, Richie sucks ass.
I was trying to bait you at that point.
I know.
That's still funny to have on you.
That's like you saying the N-word.
I'm pro-vaccination.
You have his N-word tape.
Yeah, that's my N-word tape.
I'm going to release that on Twitter in like seven years.
Cancel you.
I guess I'll have to stand by it and I'll pull
some sick person I know out of thin air
to be like, oh, you can't say that now
because I was taking care of someone
and you're a piece of shit. And by thin air, was taking care of someone and you're a piece of shit.
And by thin air, I mean my girlfriend
and you're a piece of shit.
You know what?
I don't know.
She's healthy now.
She's a strong person and I think you...
I don't think she needed that.
Just press the fucking space button.
I don't think she needed that.
I don't think she needed the
Jamie Foxx paralysis shot. Care about them?
If they made the choice to be unvaccinated,
who cares? I would. Yeah, actually, yeah.
You still care for them. You still think
their choice doesn't matter.
I'm going to be honest with you real quick, though.
You're the most neurotic, sickness-avoiding guy
on earth. I'm extremely surprised
you had such a strong opinion at the time.
He got political about it.
This is a year and a half in. I thought about it logically. I'm like, are you kidding? a strong opinion. He got political about it. This is a year and a half in.
I thought about it logically.
I'm like, are you kidding? This is absurd.
This is what I wanted to ask you. Do you think, looking back,
bartenders and bouncers
and those people who got to enforce
it were having a lot of fun with it?
And the owners, maybe, a lot of them were like,
oh, I have to do this. It was an abuse of power.
But that's where the feeling's coming from.
So you're like, going to the owners. De this. It was an abuse of power. But that's where the feeling's coming from. So you're like going to the owners.
Devin has worse ODD than me.
Why would the owners love it? They all had those chalk
signs out on the front. Everyone was
really proud of themselves.
Wear a mask on your mandate
to vaccine day.
If you think you're going to come in here and get
an Allagash white for $13
without being vaccinated,
you got something else coming to you, brother.
That's this time.
That's this time. And they should be fucking
killed. Because they're responsible
for a lot of fucking lost lives and
businesses. They were playing to the majority.
They were playing to the consumer.
We should open with this. They probably hated it, honestly.
They probably were like, God, I have to write this.
The blue shirt consumer.
Yeah, in San Francisco Francisco Not half the other countries
Not the other 83 million that voted for another retard
Right but I'm saying in Alabama
That's not a country
That's like coastal thinking
I'm asking in Alabama at that time
If they were catering to the consumer
You cater to 100% of the population
Well it wasn't federal, as Joey said.
So it was like the customers in San Francisco. Just between you guys, don't bring me into this.
So these business owners are politically radicalized retards.
Right, but the owners just are trying to make money.
I mean, that's all they're worth.
No, they're not.
They're trying to make a point.
In San Francisco?
If they wanted to make money, they'd let everyone in.
This is what I'm asking you.
The bouncers got to have fun with it, and they got to enforce.
The bouncers were told, though, by a guy.
Yeah, but you don't know service industry workers like I do.
And they like the opportunity to tell you no.
I know, and they wouldn't have that opportunity if their boss that owns the place goes,
yeah, everyone can have wings tonight.
I don't care what their profits are on things.
Because if they don't enforce it at that time in San Francisco, nobody comes.
We're acting like, by the way, this is not six months in.
This is not a month after the vaccine.
I know there was a few months after the vaccine came out where we still didn't know.
We thought, I'm good now.
There was a whole period of time where the news said that you will never get it.
And then they just hit all that once everyone started still getting it.
This is a year
and a half in. We were done with this shit.
It was like you either get the vaccine or you don't.
And it doesn't matter either fucking
way. It's a personal decision.
If you think it'll give you an easier time with COVID,
you get the vaccine. If you don't want
to put something in you that you don't know about,
you don't. And that's it.
And it's everyone's decision. I wish I disagre that's it. And it's everyone's decision.
I agree. It's everyone's decision.
The private businesses
have a decision too. And they're allowed
to make it.
I guess you don't want it.
I don't care.
All these businesses didn't have the decision.
They're vaccine mandates.
They were forced by the fucking city.
They had no decision. All their employees were
forced to get it. They would be fired. All their employees were forced to get their fires.
They would be fired, Rick Joey.
I had fucking chairs thrown at me because I was enforcing
vaccines. I got no money for like six fucking
months. It was horrific.
It is a miracle the place
I work at is still around today. It is a
fucking miracle. It's a miracle that it's around
without the virus. It's the worst
bar in the fucking city.
But no, so the federal mandate was that when they closed businesses down,
your bar, if they would have had balls,
they could have kept it fucking open with no restrictions.
What are you talking about?
But they didn't.
There was no federal restrictions.
If your bar had any balls, they would say, fuck it, we don't care.
You guys can come with no masks.
But they didn't do it because they're fucking cuffs.
There were LA County people coming in,
checking that we were enforcing vaccine mandates.
Fight them in the fucking courtroom. You're right County people coming in, checking that we were enforcing vaccine mandates. Yeah, fight them in the fucking
courtroom. You're right.
No, no. There were restrictions.
There were mandates.
There were mandates. Yeah, there were mandates.
City-wide mandates.
City mandates?
You have a fucking choice.
Take people to the Supreme Court, you cocksuckers.
Okay, Joey. You fucking cowards.
Every single
big freedom case that's ever
been won in the history of freedom
has happened at the
Supreme Court level.
And you guys are like, oh no.
Who's the guy in the Chicago Five?
The trial of the Chicago Five.
What's the guy's name?
Which one? The main guy.
With the curly hair.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I support Fredo.
What do you mean?
He obviously, the person
has some weird reason they don't want to get it.
Also, you had a very low chance
of dying from it before there was a vaccine.
So, go ahead. Roll the dice.
I don't care. I got it so I can feel
more comfortable and go
do things. But if you're hanging out unvaccinated, all right, whatever.
So you're willing to let somebody die just simply because they don't like, you know.
I'm not doing it.
They have their person.
They have Joey.
Yeah, fucking.
That's what?
What does that mean?
John, what does that mean?
That's a big that's a big cock opinion.
That's a terrible opinion.
That's a big cock.
No, it's a hero opinion.
I'm saying if a virus could kill somebody, if it could, I don't think it could, but if it could, I'm going to be a hero and let them live their lives.
It didn't go.
COVID.
Look at this dirty, sweaty eye tie.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Don't.
Don't.
Let people live.
I'm a hero.
Hold on.
Let people live.
Hold on.
Freedom.
COVID didn't go away, Joey.
Freedom for the country.
Let's save as many lives as we can while keeping this country free.
COVID.
Hey, listen.
Is that crazy?
Think about the list.
Hold on.
Let me say my point.
COVID didn't go away.
We just decided we knew people were fed up with it
and we had to let it go.
We realized it's not that deadly.
There is not much different now than then.
You're at a bar going,
hold on before I have this drink.
Is anyone unvaccinated around me?
When you're hanging out with a group of strangers, you go, are you unvaccinated?
Because I don't want to kill you.
This is a bullshit faggot opinion to have at the time.
Like I was saying in this, it's probably not deadly.
But if it is, hypothetically, in this scenario, I would probably try to avoid.
But we don't care.
We just added it to the list of things you got to fucking watch out for.
But we don't care.
We just added it to the list of things you gotta fucking watch out for.
If it were as deadly as some people are implying, perhaps then I would make this decision to not infect people. There's no difference between then and now.
Over their life and choices.
You don't give a shit about anybody around you now.
The only difference now is that we have the information available to us.
Or now we know.
That you were wrong.
I suspect, no, not that I was wrong.
At the time I was just proposing this idea. The New York Times released a statement. They go, Joey LaF That you were wrong. I suspect, no, not that I was wrong. At the time, I was just proposing this idea.
The New York Times released a statement.
They go, Joey LaFleur is wrong.
I go, what if there's a 5% chance
that this is a virus that is deadlier than we think?
Well, there still is now, and it doesn't matter
because it's not a political issue.
We have a lot more data.
And again, listen, I'm a hero.
We have more data that there's no way of beating this.
And you still don't care.
You don't have that same opinion.
If you did, you wouldn't go out.
No, I'm saying if there's a 95% chance still that this is a...
If you actually thought that you'd never leave your apartment.
This virus is comparable to a flu.
If you actually thought that you'd never leave your apartment.
No, I'm saying 95% chance that this is a...
Like, it's not much more deadly than the common cold or flu or whatever.
Well, it is, but, like, that's still... It's, like, relative, and it's, like, at the end of the day, it's, like, we than the common cold or flu or whatever. Well, it is, but still, it's relative.
At the end of the day, it's like, we have to just move on.
So the reason this episode is called
False Argument is because I'm proposing
a hypothetical situation
where if it is deadly,
would you then avoid
doing it? And you didn't
understand the concept of a hypothetical situation.
Let's go through the room.
We'll finish this and then we'll go through the room.
We'll grade this.
Something that everyone knows about and is readily available.
I'm saying if you knew they were unvaccinated.
Yeah.
You don't care still?
I don't care.
What am I not supposed to hang out with them?
No, I don't give a shit.
Yeah, that's insane.
The whole reason I got the vaccine.
To this day, we've hung out.
We've been hanging out with people and they say they never got it. it and i don't go oh no i'm gonna kill you instead what devin bullshit
argument devin sits around nothing has changed devin kovac still kills 2 000 people a day
probably devin goes i can't wait till they activate the clot i've been anti-vax. Devin's like, me and my mom have been anti-vax way before COVID.
I'm vaccinated.
They're like, hey, listen, we thought.
They got a button.
I'm vaccinated.
Activate the clock.
Activate the clock.
They turn a key and they hit a button.
If they were up to Devin, polio would still be around.
Damn it, Joey.
I think the person...
Take the shirt again.
Use my shirt.
This is like the worst violation
of personal liberties.
Guys, we need him.
This whole thing
is the worst violation
of personal liberties.
It's like the fucking Patriot Act
and the precedent set
by the COVID vaccine mandates
is going to cause more...
It could potentially
cause way more loss of life in a way more dramatic
violent way in the future.
I have consistently bet against mandates
the entire time.
Freedom.
That's what I am.
I never cared.
In fact, I'm pretty sure that I had the virus.
My toes turned all fucked up.
I had COVID toes. So I had a cough and I'm like, I don't know, maybe it's COVID.
I was in South Dakota.
I was at a titty bar.
It was a biker bar.
It's a strip club, and there's pregnant strippers.
And I was basically a super spreader, by the way.
I go to this place, and the next day, like, the next couple days,
I got a cough and stuff.
I'm like, I don't give a shit.
Like, whatever.
I really never at one point was ever scared., got to cough and stuff. I'm like, I don't give a shit. Like, whatever. It's not, I really, never at one point was I ever scared.
My toes turned purple and red.
You don't care about yourself, but with other people, you think you're like Mother Teresa.
Well, so this is evidence that I clearly didn't have the hysterical beliefs that you're trying to pretend that I had on the podcast for the people.
Go ahead, Blake.
Well, we'll see.
Purple and red.
That fucks you up.
Yeah, you know, but I up. I look it up online.
The point that I'm making here is that never
once was I concerned about my own health.
The reason I got the vaccine is
because I was scared
of giving it, you know,
affecting some old lady.
And now it's been five months. That old
lady has gotten it. If anyone hasn't gotten
it, they just don't want it. There are a massive amount of people that...
And by the way, I don't want to kill somebody that doesn't want it.
We were hanging out with unvaccinated people long before the vaccine.
We were going to bars in the middle of COVID.
There's no difference.
No, but if I knew, if somebody came up and somebody said...
What's wrong about that?
I was going to bars in that...
I just left a titty bar where I was super spreading.
And that was my point.
Super spreading.
At that point in time, you were acting like it's different now.
But before they had the vaccine, we were going to bars.
We never cared if we were getting somebody sick.
I never cared ever at any point.
You did only when this argument came up.
I'm giving you a hypothetical scenario.
This is a false argument, according to you.
You don't understand.
This is wild.
Logical principles.
Hey, Joey, by the way, that person
has... We should literally listen to this
argument every episode.
Because Joey and I would just become...
This is like the route.
This is like how we become famous.
We gotta argue more. We gotta argue a lot more.
He's like someone who takes acid to have a bad
trip on purpose.
You could kill them.
They're at risk.
I would say,
oh, let me get away from them.
I definitely would not.
Why would that person
be in a crowded bar?
Because they're dumb.
Why is Stephen Hawking
at the nightclub?
I don't want to kill
dumb people
just because they're dumb.
I don't want to kill them.
This whole thing,
like, I'm killing them.
You're not making any points here.
No, it's like I'm hanging out with unvaccinated people all the time.
You don't hit my shoulder like you got something on me.
I continue to break down.
You don't get to do that.
You're like, see that, bub?
I continue to break down your false argument about how I am this conscientious objector because out of morality.
I'm saying, listen, these fucking people are dumb.
It's not a political stance.
I'm saying they're dumb,
and the virus, anyone who's scared of it is dumb.
You do say that,
and then you say the polar opposite five minutes later.
You're like a guy in basketball
that just can't stop traveling.
No, it's because you can't understand
what a hypothetical scenario is.
And you can't understand just being wrong and
relenting to being wrong about something because you have
a mental illness. No, I'm exploring
logical techniques.
To win an argument
like a scumbag lawyer.
Scumbag lawyer?
I think lawyers are great.
And I think...
Devon's an enemy of logic, is what
we're finding out. No, you are.
He's like, I go by feel, dude.
And I don't care.
He's like, fuck all that stuff, man.
I don't care about your logic.
He's like, in my gut, I think Fauci's a queer.
You know logic?
Okay, what's logical?
We should kill half the population so we could have a better future.
Would you go with that?
Oh, look at Oz. Ozzy Mandia. population so we could have a better future. Would you go with that? Like an Ozymandias scenario?
Do you think we should
kill most people so we can have great lives?
Because that's logical. There's overpopulation.
Is that logical to you?
You think we should start killing people?
So now he understands hypothetical scenarios.
That's what I was like.
Let's give you one.
This is your first tour
I love these
so
your first tour
down a distracting
hypothetical
that goes nowhere
just because you can't
like lose
something that you know
you're wrong
I'm not an anti-intellectual
psychopath
dirty Italian psychopath
anti-intellectual
so I can
I can answer this question
you act like you have
a big bookshelf
at your apartment
are you kidding me I I have a big bookshelf at your apartment. Are you kidding me?
I study.
You study.
You study.
Just in general.
I study a lot.
I study.
He studies the blade.
All right, let's finish this up.
Hey, I kill 500,000 people and then a million.
That's not half the population.
No, 1.5 million.
What was your hypothetical?
You start putting half the world in camp.
So we stop global warming, we stop everything
and we all can have a good time.
Because that's logical.
Should we do that?
It doesn't save anything. It saves you personally.
It's selfish.
It's selfish.
I wouldn't do it.
I take it back. He doesn't understand.
We say we have an overpopulation issue.
What's the solution to that?
Killing people against their will, right?
And then how does that save?
That's logical, technically, but it's wrong.
So you'd have to say like overpopulation.
But Joey loves logic.
You'll say overpopulation.
Not feeling.
Doesn't your feeling tell you that's wrong?
Don't do that.
Overpopulation would have to kill like X amount.
You'd have to give me that.
And then I could make...
But you would have no feeling come into play for that one.
Oh, no.
It'd be a tragic...
If there was a button where it's like, hey, you hit this button, 150 million people die.
But it will save 200 million.
In the future that haven't even been born yet?
Sure.
So then I would have like a really difficult
decision. No, you wouldn't. You wouldn't press a button to kill
half the world.
If it saves humanity from being
eradicated. Sure. Yeah, that's
a better hypothetical. And you know what?
It's an Ozymandias and thank you
John for understanding, you know,
false arguments. Joey's trying to get me back on his side.
I love Ozymandias.
I just... I love Ozymandias. I love Ozymandias.
That poem we all got forced to read
when I was a junior high.
Oh, it's a poem. I thought it was a Breaking Bad episode.
It's in the air.
I don't know what you want out of me.
You were here, I guess,
and you don't want the vaccine.
This whole idea now that it's like,
I'm personally killing somebody
is like, I just feel like it's nonsense.
It's not the same as shooting somebody in the head,
but you definitely have to be responsible
for the consequences of your actions, for sure.
Wow.
Who is this guy?
Who's this genius on your podcast?
You're not doing that now.
Nothing's changed.
You're not being responsible.
Who's your genius on the podcast?
This is flavor of the week politics.
Was that Lex Friedman?
Yeah, that was Lex Friedman.
...to conspiracy theorists that don't want a vaccine.
I'm supposed to give a shit?
Why am I supposed to give a shit?
Why am I supposed to hold up my life anymore
because some person is a conspiracy theorist
and doesn't want a vaccine?
Okay, more power to you.
I respect that.
Why were you asking about AI stuff?
I don't think that I should still be harassed with this shit if I went and did it.
I don't understand why I'm supposed to care about somebody that's unvaccinated hanging out.
It's a private business.
They can make their own rules.
It went from caring about the person, you lost that, so you go, oh, let me talk about my
private business.
You lost, lost, lost.
Gay, gay, gay.
I'm going to go pee, and you guys run the show.
Oh, perfect.
No, yeah, this is good.
Run the stage, Joe.
I can attack Devin without any defense.
So what I just said very simply was like, hey, it's a private business, which is what
I was echoing.
I've been so consistent.
There's going to be a lot of dumb political
idiots out there that go
into the comments and they go like,
Joey, how dare he was a
cuck like he believed in the virus?
At no point did I ever believe in the virus.
I thought it was...
I knew it was a virus. I was aware that it's a virus.
But the entire time, I thought
this was a heavy overreaction
to what is just essentially a slightly more deadly version of the current viruses that
we face all the time.
Then why are you so pro like this kind of like these mandatory, you know, these vaccine
mandates where it's like you had to force and go and see and you had to show a vaccine
card to get into a business and it and you had to show a vaccine card to get
into a business and it wasn't up to the private business it was up to like usually like the city
or the county or so again i was fully against any kind of government mandate and oh so you're
saying like this is like it would be like an nap violation libertarian you'd be more pro it if it
was like a libertarian like each business had its decision to make. Which is what. So, yeah, the city coming in and giving sanctions and pretending like they had authority over private businesses.
That fucking drove me nuts.
Yeah.
And so and that's why I was saying, you know, if the city did that, you should have fought it in court because it's fucking bullshit.
Yeah.
But, you know, these people are already their businesses are already suffering.
And like, imagine how like imagine how much more they
would suffer if they had to hire a fucking constitutional
lawyer to go to the fucking Supreme Court
or something. And they could have banded together for
like a class action. Yeah, you could have made like, yeah, you could have
done a class action. But the
ACLU is not going to help them.
You know what I mean? Like these companies,
like, you know, these. There are a lot of conservative
lawyers that would have been happy to help.
But my point is, I've ever, from the beginning of this i've been against government mandates
and it's easy to hear the argument and then try to put it into a slot or a box where it's like oh
this semi aligns with the point that they're making on cnn so now i'm just going to lump it
in with that yeah but if you take a little bit of a deeper look, the entire fucking thing, it was an
ODD freedom thing where I'm basically saying everybody should be allowed to do what they
want to do.
I've always been against every single government.
I think, Devin, Devin, you might be...
Except in that clip.
You don't care what people say.
Chug them.
I think, Devin, like Joey's saying in like a hypothetical...
Joey was saying it should be up to the private business to decide whether they want to let
someone in or out as opposed to like a vaccine mandate.
But I think you guys like spinning in circles and arguing in retarded ways.
But it's good.
I mean, if you should be up to it, I mean, I mean, in my opinion, this made the episode.
Why don't you shut the fuck up?
No, no, no, no, no.
Mediating piece of shit.
No, no, no.
What I'm what I'm what I'm what's fucking bothering me this whole time.
Do you see what a cocky is, the way you stepped out for one fucking second
so easily shut the fuck up i wouldn't be
question this is the fucking question your brain is your filthy gay otter there's a uh
fucking question this is the fucking question your brain is your filthy gay otter there's a uh
filthy gay on what i'm what i'm trying to what i'm trying to figure out though is you obviously can as a private business even in like libertarian world where everything's up to you know anybody
which we're never going to reach but the thing is is like this is a like vaccinated non-vaccine
people it's such a polarizing group now like it is essentially we're now trying to enforce
a brand new protected class out of nowhere imagine if like african-americans sprang from the ground
you know what i mean that's the question i think that we're all having right now is like
how do we no i'm saying like i just i just said yeah humbling in like a pre-packaged way
cruise control and then i was like wait what african-americans spring from the ground no no
imagine imagine imagine like all of a sudden you have a new class of people
in the United States out of nowhere
in a year. All of a sudden, half the
huge chunk of people in the United States
can now be considered a protected class.
I don't think that's ever happened before.
So it's like, obviously, it should be
up to private businesses what they want to do
inside their business, but the thing is
should it be up to private businesses?
If they can't deny service
to certain ethnicities,
certain religious groups,
then what are we going to do
when a brand new protective class
comes out of nowhere
and all of a sudden
they have to make a decision
to, oh, they can't.
It wouldn't be right.
If they were all of a sudden
to say, no,
we can't let vaccinated
or unvaccinated people
in this business
because it's a brand new
protected class.
That's actually a good point.
So John was a cuck
and he instantly flipped
as soon as he walked out.
Fucking losers. God, you guys can't talk.
Keep going. We've been carrying
the whole episode. Real quick, let me just get this out.
What? Maybe it wasn't
mandated, but it was
zeitgeist mandated.
It was culturally mandated.
You were an evil
person if you didn't do this.
And that was bullshit,
and I didn't understand why Joey was defending that.
It's not a private business decision.
It's not like no flip-flops, no shirts, no servers.
It's not some basic fucking thing.
It's turning down people based on whether they shot their arm up
with a fucking experimental vaccine.
Look how fast you got it back. He's such a fucking experimental vaccine. Whether their DNA is different now, yeah.
Look how fast you got it back.
He's such a fucking malleable... I have my own fucking opinions, Kosh.
You know what?
I can fucking think.
He's got no back bone.
John should be called the bisexual juror.
I'll go both ways.
Who knows what I believe.
I'm flip-flopping over here.
I think he's a murderer.
Naturally.
I can comprehend fucking concepts like, you know,
concepts better than either of you,
and it's like watching two fucking...
Yeah, keep going.
1.7 GPA.
Very broad definition of reasonable down.
1.8 GPA, cocksucker.
Well, too bad none of that gets used in your life.
In the pedophile ward of the dorms,
because he's such a simpleton from his GPA.
The pedophile ward. Did you say the pedophile ward? the dorms because he's such a simpleton from his GPA. The pedophile ward.
Did you say the pedophile ward?
Yeah, I saw this story.
It's a burn victim
ward, the pedophile ward.
They're going to put him with the other pedophiles with
1.7s.
That's cancer, that's burn, and that's
the pedophiles over there. But last point
on this that we can get off this is
human beings
should have the freedom
to be sheep
if they want to be sheep.
And that's it.
I would rather they
don't make that decision.
But if you want to be
a dirty little sheep cuck,
then do it.
But so last point,
I guess let's go to Goof Thread.
I feel like we kind of hammered it.
Let's move on to Goof Thread and then we'll like, then we should, I mean we have a lot more we didn't get to feel like we kind of move on to goof thread and then we'll like,
then we should, I mean, we have a lot more we didn't get to,
but we should go to goof thread and then we'll get out of here.
Cause like, yeah, we've done two hours and we still have to do a Patreon.
Do we have a video?
No, we have no video of goof thread.
Oh no, we do.
We do.
We do.
Actually I got to it.
Okay, here we go.
Oh, do you want to explain Joey?
How about you explain because so we uh goof threat was an episode we did um that we put out on patreon because we did a public episode at this
time and it was a it was good and then at the end we called a famous law office in, I won't tell you.
Maybe one day you'll get the full thing.
But we called a famous law office.
Joey gets in an argument with the lady on the phone,
and he keeps being like, send me to the big man.
Like, send me to the lawyer.
The famous lawyer.
So what it was at the time, we just started talking about Brian
Koberger, and we were saying
he's obviously innocent, which he is.
Now it's kind of similar
to the fucking... It's the COVID vaccine.
It's like people are starting to realize how right we are
about Koberger. He's a scared
little puppy dog, and
the whole world's framing him. When the news
first came out about Koberger, a lot of people
thought he was guilty. A lot of people thought he was guilty. A lot of people thought he did it.
A lot of people thought he was guilty,
but now you walk around,
you go to places,
and everyone's like,
man, we gotta free this guy.
And you're like,
oh, your only evidence is this DNA.
DNA is such bullshit, by the way.
His DNA's fucking retarded.
His DNA.
Oh, your finger prints were found
at the scene of the crime. Oh, were they, bitch?
Some fucking nerd.
If that's so true,
why don't you explain to me what DNA is?
That's so true.
How about you fucking
sit down and you tell me, oh, you know
what DNA is?
Retard.
It's the guy that you gave
a swirly to in high school and now he's blind. I got a microscope now. retard. It's the guy that you gave a
swirly to in high school.
And now he's blind.
I got a microscope now.
Mr. Prosecutor pushing your glasses up.
Nerd.
Actually, we're prosecuting you.
We have DNA evidence.
Oh, hooey.
That's what I say. Hooey.
Enough of that rhubarb.
Enough of that bullshit. And then he sees... That's what I say. Hooey. Yeah, right. Enough of that rhubarb. Enough of that bullshit.
Sure, guys.
And then he sees...
Horse manure.
And now he's looking at Koberger, who's the fucking prom king.
And he's...
Trying to take down a prom king.
Koberger was like the most popular kid at his school, okay?
Yeah.
Let's be honest about that.
Take one look at him.
You look at that guy, you go, wow, jock.
Like, fucking just strapped.
Tall drink of water. Radiating charisma. Yep. Yeah. Super, you go, wow, jock. Just strapped. Radiating
charisma. Beautiful gaze.
Compassionate eyes.
Very compassionate.
There's a fucking reason why he's getting
10,000 love letters in the mail.
There's a fucking reason for that, folks.
God damn you.
Yeah.
But so...
So we decided to call Like one of the best
Most infamous defense attorneys
He's represented like a lot of famous
Can't say who
Devin thinks we're going to get sued by him
If we say the name
It's Johnny Cock
I care about your freedom retard
You committed a federal crime
In public
On a publicly broadcasted show.
It was very funny.
It was hilarious.
He still gives me shit about not uploading.
I'm like, Joey, I'd like to keep seeing you.
Yeah.
That's a federal crime.
And I know it's an off chance that anything happens, but it's still.
I'll tell you what.
Yeah, it's a federal crime.
He can't make bomb threats.
He made a bomb threat to a famous law office.
What about the whole it was a joke
coverage settled you know what i mean so i don't want to do another argument no i don't want to do
another argument about this stuff but yes i might bleep i might bleep it out to the best of my
abilities and release it and then if anything happens i could just like deem it like it was
parody it was fake but it's it's it was real but yeah so right before But yeah, so right before this. They did do it. Right before this started being recorded,
we called like a Johnny Cochran level infamous law firm,
got a secretary.
It's such a big law firm now.
They're famous now.
It's like Cochran level.
So they have 24-7 secretaries.
Sweet lady answers the phone and she's like,
okay, hi, this is X law firm.
Like what, you know, how can I help?
And I said, well, our friend Brian Koberger has been wrongfully accused of a crime.
And we need your big lawyer, the most famous lawyer in the world, to get him out of this.
And she was, she was like, well.
She was difficult.
Well, no, she was like, well, he's not in the office right now because it was 9 p.m.
PST or whatever.
It was late.
And so she tried to hang up on me and be like, well, just call back during business hours.
And then I said, no, no, no.
Whoa.
Our friend is behind bars.
Yeah.
GoBurger.
Our friend, Brian GoBurger.
He's behind bars. I said, he's cold right now.
He has such OGG.
We've got upset at her for not believing in your face.
You're lying.
That's insane.
He doesn't have a blanket.
He can't see his family.
And then she goes.
And then so lawyers have a thing where it's like doctors.
If it's an emergency, you could patch it right into their personal phone.
Right.
So she goes, well, is this one of those?
Is this like an emergency?
Do you need to talk to him right now?
And I said, yes, of course.
And so she did it.
And the phone started ringing, and he didn't answer.
He was just like, what?
It was late.
Why would he answer?
So then it goes back to her, and I start, like, I go, what's he doing?
You go, what's he so busy with?
And she goes, like, sir, like this and that.
And then she calls you a loser.
Before that happened, so this is a hint.
I think we explained it in this clip.
We could just play it. So the guy this is a hint. I think we explained it in this clip. We could just play it.
So the guy dresses like a cowboy.
And so in the prank call, I said, what's he doing?
What is this fake cowboy doing?
Fly fishing?
Brian Kober.
He's executed.
Yeah.
And then so, yeah, play there.
You're asking for it.
You want something to happen.
You want some threats, Joey.
Who do you want to call?
No big deal.
Tell her.
Okay.
This is Joey.
I'm a fucking retailer.
I just realized, then after she said that, I said, there's a bomb in your house.
Yes, that was the whole point.
No, I didn't.
I meant to say that.
She gave you a little pushback, and you go, oh, really?
Well, there's a bomb in your office.
Right, so now, like, yeah, everyone's... Kevin and
John are freaking out because I said a bomb. This is
the redo episode we did where we then
berated Joey by like, dude, what the fuck?
Like, that was hilarious, but what are we supposed to do?
So then Joey calls a lawyer
he knows, and then he calls another
his sister who's a lawyer and asks
like, if he's okay.
Calling, but
ain't nothing happening.
Are you sure, like, the audio's...
Patreon.com slash hatewatchpodcast.
This is where you can get this there.
Even if it's, like...
This is bullshit.
Is this even a real number?
It's working on mine. No, that's mine.
Why is it working on mine?
All my lawyers...
Much like your fucking... I'm protected by the First Amendment
because of, like, parody law and stuff like that.
Also tell them we're not allowed to prank call people
outside of California.
No, yeah, so...
Let her speak.
So recording a prank phone call is illegal,
but it's probably, like, a $500 fine or something.
But Devin's concerned that he's going to get sued
for his entire house about this.
Because we don't have a teller.
We don't have an LLC.
I think she knows.
There's no LLC.
Logan, do you have any insight?
I mean,
you said this
on his podcast.
For sure, you're going to be, you're exposed to liability.
Me?
Yes, exactly.
That's what I've been trying to say.
For sure.
Thank you.
So I'm liable.
I'm obnoxious.
You hate yourself watching yourself?
Now that I've heard like three of my own arguments back to back, I'm like, how do you fucking deal with it?
This ODD is obnoxious.
Joey, if you weren't so charismatic, you would be dead by now.
I'm running off with pure love.
Joey, you would have been hog-tied and thrown in a shuttle.
I love you guys.
You're the most charismatic man on earth.
Happy to hear you say that.
It's all pure love.
But yeah, you really make me suicidal sometimes.
Thank you for putting up with this.
This is so funny.
This is such a funny realization.
Joey realized he has a problem.
Yeah, this is like a... Good for you, buddy. Thank problem yeah this is it's like
thank you guys
it's like immersion therapy
this is hilarious
you guys have been
dealing with a lot
oh my god Joey
it's all the time
I can record
every night
we hang out
to the point
where you get drunk
and if I showed you
what you did that night
you'd be like
well when I get too drunk
a lot of time
I just get tired
but like
this is a dangerous medium where I just start getting argumentative and annoying yeah you got more
energy than you think pal yeah you got more yeah you're a little duracell battery sometimes
that's what i'm white claws you know joey believe it or not i'd rather have this version
of you than the other guy that you know you'd rather have somebody owning you logically
the other guy that, you know.
You'd rather have somebody owning you logically.
Very good.
Even back to it, he goes, God, I hate myself.
I'm wrong. And he goes, well, I'm right
and you're wrong.
Worst case scenario, could anyone
ever be sued? Are there damages
that could ever be imagined that would
take a house
from a person on this?
I would imagine there are no damages.
Thank you.
Thank you.
By the way, what law does your sister practice?
She does a lot of different kinds of stuff.
She knows about this stuff.
Did anything bad happen?
No, I just...
He threatened violence against a famous lawyer.
So...
Did the lawyer... Was he harmed in any way because of that? He threatened violence against a famous lawyer. So, Devin's saying that there might be psychological harm.
Like, I'm scared.
That doesn't count.
That doesn't count.
Thank you.
I mean, okay, so it depends.
Sometimes you can get some kind of damages.
There might be per se defamation
but it would be a very
small amount.
Also tell her that you named
the podcast to them.
I said the name of the podcast.
And if we post it publicly, it's already
illegal. That's like committing a crime.
You break in, you tie people
up, you commit a horrific crime and then you go
and you can find me at the
Hate Watch Podcast!
It's like when Jeremy Leonard takes his hockey
mask off because you see my face.
Legal to call somebody. I think that
settles it. Thank you. Ma'am.
Ma'am. We have more questions.
Wait. What can happen
to Joey?
Small fine.
Joey, there's probably some to Joey? Small fine.
Joey, there's probably some criminal liability.
Small fine.
They said a minimum six months in prison.
Now, yeah, John looked something up on the internet.
He thinks everyone's a lawyer.
He looked something up on Google.
Logan, you probably know about these kinds of people. Let her speak.
Honestly, John, he sounds like a reputable
source, honestly. He's a good guy. I love him,
but he's going on the internet.
Joey acts like getting some
FBI just knocking on his door.
What is she fucking hearing?
How does that ever make sense?
And it makes you question her
legal abilities. I hate to
say it, but that was not a good look for her
when she just said that.
Yeah, your sister. Yeah.
A bomb threat
to a law office. One of the most famous law offices
in America is like a no big
deal. Tell her it's
an extremely famous law office.
Thank you so much. I'm going to hang up. Thank you
so much. No, no, I want more info. Nope.
She said what she said.
We're safe to post it.
That's your own flesh and blood.
She always sides against me, to be honest.
We argue.
Our good friend we met at the bar the other night, he just...
I'm just thinking about right now, Matty Rat in the comments.
How gay is he going to get for Devin with no shirt on?
Oh.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Who knows?
He's going to be licking his chops. It's going to be the gayest message
ever about your chest hair
and your arms.
I'm into it. Matty Rat's hot.
I love Matty Rat. I think he's one of
the funniest commenters ever.
He probably belongs in a facility
or something. Yeah, he should be on Shutter Island.
He's been a Pakistani friend.
I don't know who that is.
Who the fuck are you talking about?
Who does John call?
This is going to be like your friend.
Who do you call him?
Don't say his name.
Oh, right.
It's going to be our friend. It's going to be like Richie or something.
Yeah, it's going to be Richie. I thought going to be like Richie or something. Yeah, it's going to be Richie.
I thought John was going to call Richie.
Can you hear this?
Welcome.
Legal advice.
It's the name of this episode.
I don't think he picks up.
Back when those vapes were still legal.
He still picks up.
Yeah, man, what a time.
He's a reclusive man.
Puffin man-thal.
Oh, I guess we did drink before this episode.
The one other episode we drank on.
Gives you back. Pushback.
Oh.
Alright.
There's a funny line.
John's lawyers don't even answer his calls.
John's lawyers don't even answer his calls.
She called a family member.
She's a lawyer.
For what?
Go back to the 1A part.
When do I start doing 1A?
Go to the beginning.
People told me to go to
15 minutes, so I'm just going off of the people.
I don't know.
The thing I just said to Joey, I go,
Joey, you called in a bomb threat
to a massively famous
legal company.
Law office.
Law office.
There's a fat Midwestern secretary.
And Joey has his fingers like this.
He goes, no.
He's a defense man.
He goes, I'm the only one liable.
He goes, you don't understand bomb threats these days.
Nobody will be.
Nothing will happen.
Bomb threats are pretty simple.
Bomb threats, no one gets in trouble for a bomb threat
no no no so what what they didn't hear the listeners is that before we started this
devin and john were both saying like oh we could get sued for everything i'm gonna give a play by
play as to what happened just don't say the people person i'm gonna i'm gonna give a play
by play as to what happened we call very famous everybody's suit go ahead We call very famous law... Why everybody's suit... Go ahead. We call very famous law office.
You know what, Joey?
You really are.
You might be the first person
in America to fight for his...
I thought it was that.
You might be the first person
in America to fight for his right
to have a possible federal crime on his hands.
Yeah, it's pretty wild.
I've never seen anything like this.
You're actually...
You're such a fucking...
You're like a unicorn.
Pro-freedom.
Like, watching you fight us.
Like, all John and I are doing
is like, yeah, but we care about our friend, right? Unicorns care about freedomedom. Like, watching you, like, fight us. Like, all John and I are doing is like, yeah, but, like, we care about our friend, right?
Unicorns care about freedom.
And Joey's like, you fucking assholes!
Send me to prison, please!
I want to die!
Because I was willing to challenge them in Supreme Court, like I was my fucking point earlier.
Jesus Christ.
The court offers to pay a significant amount of money to represent Kohlberger.
pay a significant amount of money to represent Kohlberger.
And they want to talk to a very famous,
probably one of the most insane,
insanely famous defense attorneys in the United States.
It involves a huge...
Because, well, it's not like Post-it that we gave out.
First Amendment.
We're not NRLC.
They could take everything from me.
My name's on the show.
Private citizens are protected by the First Amendment.
It's satire.
Joey, the First Amendment doesn't cover bomb threats.
We already committed a...
It doesn't cover bomb threats.
The First Amendment does not cover bomb threats.
If you make a bomb threat as a goof...
Okay, Joey, I'm playing devil's advocate.
I'm playing devil's advocate.
Joseph is correct.
We have a long history of satire and goofing on this show.
But we don't have a long history of satire and goofing Thank you But we don't have
A long history
Of making joke bombs
We haven't done that
I'm literally
I'm here to keep
The peace between you
God damn
Flapjack
If it wasn't for me
You guys would
Have a spine
If it wasn't for me
You guys would be
Taking pot shots
At each other
With a sniper rifle
Fucking flip flop
And piece of shit
I'm capable
Of complex thought
Unbelievable Capable of complex thought. Run away, Jerry.
Unbelievable.
Capable of complex thought.
Unbelievable.
Anyway, let's wrap this up.
I'm going to look at things from different angles.
Wait, wait.
There's like... You want more?
There's like a minute left of this
where it gets kind of funny.
Prank phone calls are an established part of talk radio.
It doesn't matter.
It's illegal in the state of California
to call somebody and record them.
It's illegal to make a podcast.
Let alone a massively famous
law office. What's the punishment?
What's the punishment? 500 bucks
or something? 500 bucks.
A prank phone call. Take me
to jail. I got a ducked up go.
You're acting like I'm going to get a life
sentence for a prank phone call. It's not
that. Financially crippled?
Yeah, probably.
What? Bomb threat legal.
Financially crippled?
What do you mean?
It's like we called the people that do the thing we're afraid of.
They're not going to.
We weren't even pranking some regular guy.
We were pranking a law office.
They're not going to go to court to hopefully win some insane trial for damages.
Hey, our secretary is scared because
somebody said there's a bomb in her house.
You act like it's so silly.
They're getting paid.
My dumb secretary, oh, there's a bomb
in my home. Okay, well,
no. Come on.
It's a little scary. If you are considering
making a bomb threat, do not. You will
be caught and will spend a considerable portion
of your life in prison.
Where did you find this?
If, on the other hand, you have been accused of making a bomb threat,
you should seek immediate assistance of a qualified and experienced attorney
familiar with both state and federal law.
Let's do it.
Let's seek it.
Let's call them.
I'll say I've been making...
By the way, I've been making bomb threats for like years now.
Joey, do you know they have averages?
Yeah, I do.
One day something's going to happen, bud.
I don't think so.
Joey, you're making silly Billy.
Joey, you're not fucking catch me if you can.
You get drunk and you make bomb threats.
You're not Frank Abagnale Jr., okay?
You're a drunk that makes insane threats over the phone to people.
First of all, he's scared about getting sued.
That's slander.
What if we all start suing each other?
We can get in there.
All right.
Okay.
All right, folks.
Patreon.com slash hatewatchpodcast.
That was our 100th episode.
I apologize.
We just put the lowest effort possible in.
That was great.
That was fun.
I don't know what you're talking about.
No, we argued.
I think it was good.
It was a fun time.
We did that the best of our abilities,
and now it's time to sell.
100 episodes, baby.
Yay, we did it.
It's a meaningless achievement. Woo, woo, woo, woo, woo. Yay, we did it. It's a meaningless achievement.
Woo, woo, woo, woo,
woo, yahoo.
Celebrate
gay times, come on.
Four retards in
a room, making
fun of people, hoping they don't
get sued.
Yahoo, yeah.
You got a drug addict who's taking time off.
You got John who's fat and gay.
I got Joey who's a drunk criminal.
You got me.
I suck off truckers at the shops.
Yeah.
And that's who you're dealing with every week.
You listen to the Hatewatch pod every Monday.
And then whenever I release the Patreon, I don't tell the day.
Because I don't like the responsibility, yeah, of owing you a specific day.
When we release the bonus episode, celebrate good times. Come on! Uh, uh, uh, hell, yeah, yeah.
Tell your friends, tell your girlfriend, tell your wife, tell your auntie, tell your grandma, tell your family.
Tell everyone you've ever met about the Hatewatch pod and then get excited when they come back to you and tell you,
I don't want to talk to you again.
I don't know what you recommended to me.
That's the worst show I've ever heard.
Don't come to Christmas.
You're not invited to Christmas now.
You can't come to Thanksgiving.
In fact, you can't come to my child's baptism.
You can't come to my wedding.
You can't come to anything anymore.
Because I heard they watch pod. Come on. Yay, 100 episodes. I wedding. Can't come to anything anymore. Because I heard the A-Watch pod.
Come on. Yay. 100 episodes.
I love you guys. I love you all.
I love you. I love you.
Cheers to 100 years.
Yahoo.
We're retards.
Retards.
This is meaningless. We know that we're being goofing.
We're goofing.