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So you were saying you hate Runcorn and you want to move the studio to somewhere more palatable.
Hey!
Hey, Runcorn!
Wasn't saying that.
Just saying it looks like your town planner
had a stroke mid-town plan.
It looks like he's going,
and I put a railway station there, and then just fucking went everywhere. Midtown Planner had a stroke midtown plan. It looks like he's going,
and I put a railway station there,
and then just fucking went everywhere.
It's mental.
If it does feel like the place Liverpool has sent all its unwanted people,
to me.
Right.
Like I've said this before,
the least attractive people in the world live in Bramcorn.
It's a weird town, town man it's honestly a weird
and there's some nice houses
but I know they're mega cheap
you know that type of vibe
when you look at a house
you go that's a nice house
I bet that's worth nothing
yeah
you must look at Roncorn
and be like
listen
what am I going to do
am I going to do
two bed flat
in North London
or am I going to do
this fucking hospital
that I could just buy and live in
like a King?
Yeah.
Yeah.
You're the King of sound at that point.
Whenever I tell,
whenever I tell a comic in London,
what I pay.
So I live on my own in a three bedroom house in Liverpool and I pay less than
most comics play for the fucking cupboard in a house shit. It's crazy.
But then it's the same thing of like, you know,
like Liverpool ain't bad.
I'm not shitting on Liverpool by any stretch of imagination,
but it's not London, isn't it?
Yeah.
And I think that's the fact.
I'd rather live in Liverpool, me though.
Yeah, that's because, you know,
even though we, yeah.
Of course, with that accent though.
With me though.
Like, you know, that's obviously a voice
of a guy who wants to live
In Liverpool
No I like up north
I think I lived in Manchester
And that like I get it
Yeah
It's a nice
It's a nice town
I'd live here again
But you know
For what you're paying
In London
It isn't
I'm
And I'm born and raised
In London
I'm starting to think
It's not worth it
Yeah
Where's your option then
Not
If it's not Runcorn
Where would we
I'm not going to do London anymore
What are you going to do
Manchester
Yeah Yeah Or I just go somewhere wild and shit just go switzerland fuck it
yeah yeah let's go oh amsterdam i think back in amsterdam once when i was like about 24
i thought about going to amsterdam but i realized for me to pay rent i would have to fly back to
england five days a week.
There are comics that do that, not from Amsterdam.
Ian Moore lives in Paris, don't he?
I think you might miss a few flights if you live in Amsterdam.
Like, I've got a weekend in Edinburgh,
but I fucking missed it by six days.
Damn you, Amsterdam, with your local produce.
Ian Moore lives in Paris, don't he?
And he commutes back and forth.
He doesn't live in Paris.
He lives in like a farmland in paris in paris in france like he lives out there it's not even
like he lives in metropolitan i can imagine you living in amsterdam you love amsterdam you love
the comedy club there don't you yeah yeah yeah but then but i can only play there maybe once or
twice a year yeah and that doesn't pay like that wouldn't even pay my rent. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's not like, oh, I do a gig there and it's 40 grand.
Like, it's, you know, it's just club money.
Yeah, and if you think industry don't come to Liverpool and Runcorn,
they're probably not coming to Amsterdam.
Yeah.
I don't know, but up north, I think Manchester's the only one.
I couldn't live in Birmingham.
No, Manchester's good for you, like, under normal circumstances for UK comedians because it's actually right in the middle of the whole country.
If you include Scotland as the country,
which we shouldn't because they're independent.
Not yet.
It's coming, though.
It's right.
It's so easy to get to everywhere.
Everywhere's like two hours away, isn't it?
Well, I lived in Manchester for 10 years,
and it was handy as fuck.
I only pussied out just because I got old
and wanted to be like,
oh, I want to go out then.
But it is,
it is.
And you've now moved
to one of the only cities
in the UK
that doesn't have
a comedy club.
Well, yeah, that's true.
But I'm 40 minutes away
from every gig
in the Northwest,
aren't you?
That's the thing.
If you live in the Northwest,
really,
like London is so sprawling
and so difficult
to get round.
Apart from like like obviously there's
the underground everything but if you lived in Runcorn you're as handy for Liverpool Manchester
all of the gigs in the northwest as you would be living in any part of London getting to gigs in
London it's like that's the trade-off isn't it as long as you've got a fucking car yeah you can get
all around the northwest really easy it's quality of life though isn't it because you could get a bedroom house
it's like you're you know just to get to gigs in the northwest
oh yeah i could get to a gig in chester fuck get into a gig
you want to live in london with all this culture i can make warrington in 23 minutes
come on jamali think about it that is 20 minute gig
and I don't really want
a gig in Warrington anyway
if you move to Manchester
you fucking will my friend
you'll be like
Warrington
you'll be doing all of the
shit Northwest comedy
like who's drinking
when I lived in Manchester
I couldn't get any work
in the Northwest
did you start in Manchester
no I started in London
but I moved to Manchester
because I heard
there was all this gig
in the Northwest
and nobody wanted to book me
so I kept having to get
the train back from London
so you were commuting
to London
yeah yeah yeah
to get London games
to do weekend spots
at Comedy Caf
what
why weren't you getting work
I loved the Caf you know
did you do the Comedy Caf
never done the Comedy Caf
no he was crazy man
yeah
he's a legend
he's like an Irish guy
I've mentioned him on the podcast
but on the very first
Steph episode
So right now we're talking about Noel
I can smell his breath
Do you know what I mean?
He had a very distinctive
He had a bit of a click
He'd done too many drugs
And he was just a bit
Dead sound
Born like that
Was he?
What's it called?
What's the thing with
Tourette's
Was he really?
I thought it was a drug thing
No no no It's Tourette's I Was he really? Yeah, Tourette's. I thought it was a drug thing.
No, no, no, it's Tourette's, Tourette's.
I bet he did do a lot of drugs.
He done like, because he didn't,
I don't want to speak his thing,
but I think it's out there.
He used to do like,
he got kicked out of America or some shit for,
he was doing drug running or some shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's like a boat guy.
That's not a good thing to,
when you've got Tourette's,
you don't think drug running.
You know when you've got like nine kilos of cocaine in the back of a car be like fuck fuck shit like he was a good dude man I
remember he said he was a mad guy I remember one time I he booked me for weekends and I didn't have
20 minutes and I said to him I've only got 40 minutes where he goes well you better sort it out
you're on next and I came get your pad out quick next. And I came back the next week. Get your pad out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Quick six minutes.
And I came back the next week,
and I was like, you know what?
I think I've got a 20 now.
He goes, good, you're closing.
They made me close gigs.
Oh, my God.
I love shit like that, though.
Like, I was, like, he booked me.
So I'd emailed, like, everyone.
I was trying to get London gigs
without ever doing the open mic circuit in London.
And I had a couple.
I got in Top Secret quite early.
I got really lucky with how I got in there.
But I emailed them and was like,
and I sent this full,
when you start out,
you send this full fucking life story email.
I started here.
I won the flying pig competition.
And I can wear shoes really well.
And I know places and colors.
It's really like,
I got to the clap off of Barry Chuckle Hudson's
gong show last week and his massive
life story
and he replied
and said
I like people from
Liverpool
Scousers are funny
yeah you're in
and he put me in
for a weekend
just because I was
Scouse
yeah and he would
do stuff
I remember one time
I was there
and someone was
talking about
shitting on stage
and he goes
ah
he goes
you'll never work
my club again
and I go
why
he goes
because he's
talking about
shitting
you don't talk
about shitting
in my club
Andy's wearing blue again. I go, why? He goes, because he's talking about shit. And you don't talk about shit in my club.
Andy's wearing blue jeans.
And I go, I'm wearing blue jeans.
And he goes, yeah, but it's different.
So that was his logic.
And that was it.
It's so funny when you don't like someone's comedy or them,
how you just find reasons to be pissed off with them.
But as soon as you like someone, you're like, yeah,
he just pooed on the stage.
But that closing bit is fucking great
one of the few
like we've talked a lot
about comedy
on the 90 odd episodes
we've done of this
we haven't really delved
into the world
of fucking crazy promoters
because there's so many
promoters
who are just a bit
Noel's one of them
one of my favourite clubs
which is the one I see
you at the most now
is Top Secret Comedy Club
in London
which you've mentioned
Mark's amazing but he's fucking mental.
Who runs it? Mark Rothman
is his name, and he compares it.
He does the bar. Always
the first sign of the
mental promoter, isn't it? Like, I don't need
a compare. I'll
compare you. Like, okay. He started
the club to get gigs, because no one
was booking him, and it's now grown into one
of the best comedy clubs in the fucking world. He does the bar to get gigs because no one was booking him. And it's now grown into one of the best comedy clubs
in the fucking world.
He does the bar.
He shoos the smokers away from his door.
He does the sound.
He does the voice.
He does everything.
Mark's like...
He builds shit in there as well.
Like, he built the toilets.
Yeah.
Shit like that, yeah.
He's...
You know, like, Binti at Hot Water?
Yeah.
It's like if Binti compared and did the bar...
He's like Bugs Bunny.
He's everywhere
you know that like he's just all like you look everywhere he's on the bar and he wears a hat at
the bar he wears you know i'm saying it's like a different character but i got into top secret
when it was in the africa center which was its first venue what there's a place in london in
covent garden called the africa center and they had a room in there's a place in London in Covent Garden called the Africa Centre and they had a room
in there
what a random place
to start
I was in London
to do a tryout
at Sway
for Jonglers
right
and I just walked
past Top Secret
and I was like
I'll just pop my head in
say that I'm a comic
I was only like
two years in
I was like
I'll just say I'm a comic
and just wondering
how to get spots
so I popped my head in
and went to
hey mate you alright
I'm Adam I'm a comedian.
He was like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Move out the way.
And I was like, what?
And he goes, I've got customers, just get in.
So I was like, right.
And then he cleared the queue.
And I went, yeah, so nice to meet you.
My name's Adam, I'm a comedian.
He went, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So have I booked you?
And I went, no.
And he went, oh, so why are you here?
And so I was just coming to introduce myself,
and I'm doing Jonglers tonight around the corner.
And he went, oh, you're doing Jonglers?
Oh, do you want to get on?
And I went, yeah, go on then.
So before I went and did Jonglers,
I just accidentally did this gig at Top Secret.
And then I had a really good gig,
and he'd come over and he went, send us your dates.
What have you got?
And he got his laptop out and he's like
yeah so when do you
want to come back
and I was like
in three weeks
and he was like
yeah yeah yeah
by the way
if you're a young comic
trying to make your way
in the game
that's not usually
how it goes
don't be like
oh that's what
I've been doing wrong
I've been emailing people
what I'll do
is just turn up
be like
hi
hi comedy store
can I get on
yeah it's just mad
I love that story.
And I love the fact,
you want a gig for gigs like the Glee,
which is very professional.
The store, very professionally run.
But you love the nutcases.
The nutcases make it exciting.
That guy, yeah,
he obviously sounds a bit mental,
but he's got one of the most successful clubs
in the country.
And that shit's adorable, isn't it?
And his stairway,
if you go down the stairs to get into the Sub-secret now it's just every photo on the wall is like a huge celebrity that's played it so like jamali's on the wall there's like it gets better
from there
it gets better from there don't worry it's a better list than that. There's John Bishop, Chow, Jack Whitehall,
Amy Schumer,
Eliza Schell Singer,
Michelle Wolfe.
Like,
they've had everyone drop in.
And occasionally,
like,
I've turned up there before to close
and gone,
who's being on?
And they've gone,
oh,
Paul Chow,
Jack Whitehall's just in the middle.
Have a good gig.
Okay.
But one night,
so this is,
he just,
if someone's in town from America,
he wants them on the wall.
So do you know who TJ Miller is?
He's,
have you seen Deadpool?
Yeah.
You know the bartender?
Yeah.
So that's TJ Miller.
He's a stand-up.
Yeah.
So he goes to me,
I'm due to close and he goes,
TJ Miller wants to come down.
He's Jack White's old mate.
So he's put him in touch
and he's going to go on after you've closed.
We're just going to say,
oh,
we've got a special guest.
So just do 10 minutes
and wrap up and then we'll get TJ because he'll be here in a minute. So just get you on, you do 10 we're just going to say oh we've got a special guest so just do 10 minutes and wrap up
and then we'll get TJ
because he'll be here
in a minute
so just get you on
you do 10
and then TJ
so I go on stage
and I get 10 minutes in
and I go right guys
that's just my time
and from the back
he goes no
he's not coming
I just had to carry on
take the mic back out
I was like oh
he's not coming
they were like who was it
I was like
I can't tell you that now
were people were people excited that you were staying longer or were they just sort of ambivalent about it I think there was like, oh, he's not coming. They were like, who was it? I was like, I can't tell you that now.
Were people excited that you were staying longer or were they just sort of ambivalent about it?
I think they were sort of like, oh, we enjoyed you, mate,
but we were done.
I remember I was in Switzerland, right?
And I was with Elliot still.
And he opened, he done well.
And I went on, I'm into an hour and I've got,
I've died on my arse
it's just horrible
how many minutes in
have you called
I done
maybe 35
oh that's a valiant death
and I said
you know what
let's just wrap this up
you know
they ain't liking it
I come off stage
and the promoter's like
you know what
you ran a little bit under time
I'll bring you back on
right
so he goes on stage
he goes on stage
and he goes
you know what something happened with jamali's watch but
he's gonna do a little bit more time for you guys everyone's like what and they had to go back on
and do another 25 minutes of to death why did he want that though fuck no because he's like
there's an old school thing of time is very important it's not matter what the show is as
long as you do your time yeah i think they think you're shortchanging their money if i don't do a time yeah non-comedy people think like that
corporate gigs think like that well we've got this money it's a lot of money why not do 50 minutes to
our bunch of cunts at this company like that's the worst they don't even want any comedy equate
uh quality yeah it's you know it's what the show is I mean you could do it like I think sometimes having this a good
10 minutes
is better than having
a mediocre hour
oh totally
you know
watching it
you know Bobby Mayer
so Bobby
he won't mind me saying this
and I'll text him
if
and double check
but he told me so
he got a bit of telly
a few years ago
I love Bobby
he's a fucking
proper comic
you know I did
Antique Roadshow
with Bobby Mayer
did you not know
about that
if I'd have been
asked to guess
what was coming out
of Jamali's face
did you know about that shit
bro that was so
fucking funny
was it like celebrity
or was this just
no no no
it wasn't just me
and Bobby Mayer
you were just
applying
I got booked for it
they asked me
do I want to do it
and my agent was like
you know this came up but you know he was telling me more it's like isn't this funny I got booked for it They asked me Do I want to do it And my agent was like You know
This came up
But you know
And he was telling me more
It's like isn't this funny
And I was like
Okay
And they said I can pick
Who I want to be with
And I said
Well I have to do it
With Bobby Mayer innit
Oh yeah
Because watch the world burn
Yeah yeah
I thought I have to
But I know
Jamali do you think
Your future audience
Buying like
Ticket buying audience
Are from Fantix
I love agents like jamal this is perfect
for you what is it songs of praise yeah he wasn't even like he was like look i know you don't want
to do this but it's just he was telling me more like isn't this funny that they asked you to do
it yeah i think because he goes i know you won't do it and i was like i'll only do it if i can do
it with bobby may and they said yeah and probably been bobby May nearly made my expert cry.
So hang on, Antiques Roadshow or Bargain Hunt?
Because Antiques Roadshow is stuff you've found in your house.
Oh, yeah, it's not Bargain Hunt.
Is Bargain Hunt the one where you have to go round and find stuff?
It was not from a car boot sale.
We had to do it from antique shops.
Oh.
Oh. You know what I'm talking about.
Under the Hammer.
No, what's it called?
Oh, there's's gonna be people
going road show something road show celebrity antiques road celebrity antiques road trip
celebrity antiques road trip oh there we go yeah and i did it so it's basically like
the same it's they're all the same premise isn't it yeah yeah uh but antiques road show is the most
stuffy yeah i've honestly when you said antique shows i was like what it's like i've got a vase i think it might be worth 150 pounds like oh i'll just in my head I was like, what? It's like, I got a vase.
I think it might be worth 150 pounds.
Like, oh, I'll just, in my head I was like,
how are you turning up?
Like, right, bruv.
Yeah.
I came with a knife and a bong.
Yeah.
I've got this North face jacket.
I can't be honest, putting it on eBay.
I've got these Supreme crepes.
What do you say?
I've got these Supreme crepes.
No, but yeah, so we did it and Bobby was,
oh, Bobby was so funny
And Bobby kept on calling
My expert
Radio 4
And kept on taking the piss
At Radio 4
And it was
And she
What can she
What can she say to him
He's just mad isn't it
And my expert
Kept on getting mad at me
Because she would say
Oh for the TV show
Don't you want to buy
This lovely
Rhodesian
Vase
And I was like
Yeah I just want to buy
This knife
And I was like I want to buy this and i bought a robocop toy
that actually made money surprisingly and everyone was like this is not going to make money and i was
like yeah i will spend 50 pounds it weighed like 100 and then the other thing i bought she had this
lovely chair and she was like oh don't you want this lovely chair and i was like now i want that and it was a clothes it was a coat hanger that was made from rowan oars
and it was fucking horrific and she was like are you you want a bat and i said yep what do you buy
that for oh i spent like 150 quid on how much did it sell for i think it sold for like 125
oh that's not bad like i didn't do too bad because the things i bought were so
out there that either people really wanted it or they hated it jam's in it was like a really weird
profit you made was that going to charity i think so but you just didn't give no
what are they getting comedians on fucking antiques like what are they doing i think you
should buy this i think you should know more about comedians and it's just
like it was just a real weird booking choice and there's and even like the people who were doing
the show like the producers they were just like you could tell they were kind of just like why
why is he here like you could tell them just like i do feel like you are as far away as possible
as who the target of the Antiques Roadshow is.
But maybe that's what it is.
Maybe they were like,
we've got all
the old Brexit vote
and white women.
Yeah, so they want
a different market.
Now we need
some young black men
to watch it.
Yeah, it's where diversity
really bites in the ass.
Yeah, I'm bringing them over.
No, I think what happened was
is that they were like,
you know,
someone said in a meeting,
we need to make it young.
We need to, who's the young guy?
Jamali, he wears baseball caps.
That's him.
And then, you know, you know, yeah, I don't know what it was.
I think it was a, I think it was just someone in the meeting went, we just need a thing.
And it went too far.
And then they probably asked me to be like, oh, we don't really want to do this, but let's just ask him.
He would say no.
And they didn't go like,
I didn't go, all right, Bobby Mayer.
Imagine if it fucked up all your tour shows for like a good year.
Every time you were like,
what's happening in Manchester?
Like, oh, hello.
We saw you on Antiques Roadshow.
Well, that happened a little bit to Paul Sinner,
didn't it?
Because Paul Sinner is quite sort of,
he's quite rough
on stage and he's you know he's a lot of gay jokes a lot of gay jokes a lot of dick jokes a lot of
asian jokes about his parents and stuff and then there's these old women who just i've seen him on
the quiz show on tv one at five o'clock and i love him and then he's like yeah i love fucking men
and it's just see these old women i saw him in i was with him in Middlesbrough Doing a
Peter Vincent's gig
You know that massive
Yeah
And
When I say like
They didn't even buy tickets
You know like those people
That are like celebrity hunters
And they wait by the back door
Yeah
There was about six old women
With photos of Paul Sinner
That he didn't even know he took
Oh okay
Waiting there
And like
And they were like
One woman went
Oh my god
Oh
Like going blushing red Because she saw Paul Sinner Like really like and they were like one woman oh my god like going blushing red because
she saw paul sooner like really like but they don't laugh they don't laugh they got so i've
done a gig with paul it was when he just got on the chase within a year or two of him being he's
been on it for five ten years it's been a while yeah front row because they're there first because
they're diehards but they're not diehard of his comedy they're diehard
he's one of the chase guys
and they don't get
any of it
they don't even get
Paul's bit
they fucking
didn't get my bit
they're just like
sat there going
you're not Paul
you're not Paul
you're not Paul
and then he gets on
and does a few blowjobs
Bradley Ross looks really different
in real life
if I get any bigger
I'm the beast mate
have any convinced some wiggy ways
they're just the worst people in an audience i think you know you can get to a point i'm not
saying paul but you know you can get to a point where people don't even realize you do stand up
anymore like they just think that you're going to do a live thing of what you're known for
i'm saying though like they probably don't think he's probably even doing stand up they think he's
going to do a live chase did you get anything like that Do you know what I'm saying though? Like they probably don't think he's probably even doing standup. They think he's going to do a live chase.
Did you get anything like that
when you were doing,
did you get that sort of vibe?
Cause you,
one of your catalysts
was your Vice documentary,
wasn't it?
Yeah.
I did stand up in the doc,
but I kind of got away with it,
but they thought I was way more woke
than I was.
Yeah.
I got that a bit.
Yeah.
You know,
people thought I was going to just talk about
isn't racism bad for an hour
yeah and it's that's not my act no sorry if anything that sounded like you were just going
but racism's all right in it i mean yeah i had these good points no um well i made a career
off it for two years but uh gone six road show yeah but you know i mean you know but yeah no i
had a lot of people thinking i was gonna be be mad woke. I think because people also came from clips and not seen the show.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Cause in the show,
the standup,
I met,
I wanted to make the standup out there to show that comedy can still be out
there and not be,
you know,
put in a catalyst of racist.
And yeah,
just cause you're saying bad things.
It doesn't make you a bad person.
That's literally our whole MO on this.
Yeah. That's important point. Not to make it like a, you know, too altruistic, doesn't make you a bad person oh my god that's literally our whole mo on this yeah that's an
important point not to make it like uh you know too altruistic but i think we've sort of taken
away saying bad things from good people and giving it just to bad people yeah i think you know we
sort of there is there is you know shock and and being uh too and being extreme with your words has
um some artistic value.
Do you know what I'm saying though?
And I think we sort of gave that away
and we sort of make out that if you say something bad
and it's not funny and it's not...
We talk about this quite a lot.
Because I've been called a right-wing comedian before
because on stage I'll say something that I don't really believe in
just because it's funny.
And then I'm like...
That's a valid comedy position to have, I'll say something that I don't really believe in just because it's funny. And then I'm like, I'm all about social.
That's a valid comedy position to have is to say something that you know,
I don't believe in.
Yeah.
But it's funny to say.
Yeah.
That is valid.
It's getting to the point where you can't,
we talk and joke about race.
And I've had a couple of people message me going,
I don't think they're your jokes to make.
I don't think you should be talking about it because you,
you two white guys, you're like, I don't think. I mean jokes to make i don't think you should be talking about it because you you're two white guys you're like i don't think i mean you are cutting into my work yeah
i want that fucking road show money yeah you want that road show money
have a word on the antiques road show tour though oh my god insane yeah that'd be the end of one of
the shows but but the the snapback is now from all the comics
or anyone with a brain going,
we can make these jokes.
You can be controversial.
You can take the piss.
We know you're on the knife edge
of what's politically correct
and what's just plain wrong,
but that's a comedian's job.
And now it looks almost like alt-right
even to defend your position of,
I'm a comedian
i'm allowed to take the piss out of certain things to get upset about it and i used to be like well
i'm a comedian i want to say what i want to say but i something happened it doesn't matter what
happened but something happened where someone complained about something i said uh on a big
forum and i got sort of pissed off about it but then i realized that that's their job like some
people's job is to be upset and to be offended like that's their job like some people's job is to be upset
and to be offended like that's their job my job is to tell pussy jokes and be ignorant that's my
job that's my job my job is to be ignorant in the hope that is truthful jamali welcome but you know
welcome home let's talk about disabilities but not like but do you know i'm saying though right
but that's like their job is to be like well well, I don't, that's their job. Let them do their job.
Do you know what I'm saying?
Because I'm not going to stop doing my job.
Exactly.
Isn't that the beauty of the internet though?
The beauty of the internet is
they have to come and find you
to bitch and moan.
Like on the BBC,
on any terrestrial TV,
you're like,
well, I just turned my television on
and you're in my living room
and they almost have this right.
Up until now,
they had this right to go,
I want to shut this down. This't allowed government-funded tv now you have to come and find us to that's like bitch and moan just fuck off go to go to one of the other million
places on the internet where someone says the boring shit that you like we've had this conversation
like if someone complains about something in the middle of this podcast it'd be slightly
different if we put
a clip out
because we put
quite a lot of
clips out of this
and like there was
something in it
where someone was
like I didn't like
that and I'd go
oh sorry about that
yeah soz
not for everyone
not for everyone
but if anyone
watched a full
episode of this
and picked something
from the middle
and was like I
didn't like this
I can't tell you
the speed and anger with which I would like this i can't tell you the speed and
anger with which i would tell them to go fuck themselves it's like it's like it's like the
difference between playing a circuit gig on a weekend where you get a party people going i
didn't like that and you're like yeah you haven't booked to see me but when it's like a do you find
that you when you're doing a one-man show like you guys do more than me but is there a different
tone in the audience like they're like we know you they know what they come for at that point especially now
i think i've done my third one and so the people that came back kind of knew what they were coming
for but um yeah i think i think that's the that's the good thing about touring is you can just do
what you want because people have paid to see you specifically so even if they don't go over it at
first they will eventually and you have an hour where clubs it's just kind of he's got to
go and bang it out yeah and um and the the the further line of that is why i brought bobby may
up in the first place is oh yeah sorry we've done a right all around the fucking house it happens
and it was fucking great um when you get a bit of TV, you get more corporate inquiries.
So Bobby was getting corporate gigs.
But Bobby's not a corporate comic.
But he's also living in Brixton.
And you need to be earning a lot of money.
So he was taking them.
And he said it would never go well.
And he would go on stage.
And he'd be like 12 minutes into a 40.
And people would be hating and booing.
And he would literally do the little lost girl voice
and be like, guys, I'm really sorry,
but I've got to do me 40 or I won't get paid.
And he said every single time he did it,
the woman organising it would always just come to the side
and be like, come on, love, we'll just pay you.
And it worked every fucking time.
What voice?
Like the little lost girl voice
I'm really sorry
I've lost my mum
I think imagine
Bobby Mare
with a big doe eye
at this point
pause this pod
go on YouTube
some of Bobby Mare
stand ups
just so you get
how fucking
ridiculous it is
to put him in a
fucking accountant
it's our Christmas
do come and
play it Bobby
Bobby Mare has an ability to remain him at all times accountant it's our christmas do come and play it bobby bobby may
has an ability to remain him at all times you know i'm saying though like he don't change
do you know i'm saying so what what he his act is his act and he's not gonna go up there and go
oh fuck this bit ain't working let me nah you're getting this act that he fucking does he will i
saw him do this one bit where it was about why do we tell blind people they're blind
and it was like a 10 minute bit and people and it's a funny bit but people were just like and it was just like he goes he
goes my eyes you mean my eye wet my finger wetness people were fucking furious and i couldn't stop
and he just didn't stop and he's like this is the bit we're doing it and there's no there was
if you ever want to know the Edinburgh Festival is like
it's for people
finding those guys
isn't it
you know
those ones are like
oh you can play any room
you want to go and watch those
like comics want to go
and watch guys like Bobby Man
who comics comic Bobby
100%
I um
yeah I've got nine four
but I
I've only done
two corporates
and they're both fucking
I wasn't meant to be there
who four I did one four this is early in my career and it's you know it's sellout shit I've only done two corporates and they're both fucking, I wasn't meant to be there. Who for?
I did one for,
this is early in my career and it's,
you know,
it's sellout shit,
but I did one for the,
you know,
those money lenders.
I did one for the money lenders.
Payday loads.
Yeah.
The awards.
Who's the biggest cunt?
This is the big one.
I did the,
I did my standup bit and they hated me.
There was like two tables that liked me of young people
and the rest of them hated me.
There was this one guy who was just absolutely sweating
and with his shirt undone.
And every time he spoke, he came and got his wood.
I was like, well, this speech was sponsored by cocaine.
And he just started grabbing the mic.
We ain't thanking no one.
And I said to the promoter, I said, listen,
when this hits 10 o'clock, I'm gone.
He goes, it might run over five minutes.
I'm like, well, you better wrap up the show
because I'm doing 10 and I'm going.
Like, it was fucking bad, man.
I did five.
Oh, that sounds brutal.
It sounds awful.
Do you remember a few years ago
when Steve Harris is a Northwest comic,
a stalwart of our Northwest circuit?
Do you know Steve?
You work with Steve.
So he set up a little business
getting private gigs
did you do any of them
I know exactly what you
mean and it became
famous with comics
because it was
cash pickup
yeah
corporate
cash pickup
there's two things
you should never hear
in the same sentence
corporate
cash on the night
how's he got three grand
no it's not three grand
it's 220 quid
so he'd he'd he'd set grand? No, it's not three grand. It's 220 quid.
So he'd set this business up, and it's not there anymore.
And he... It didn't survive.
He'd made this website, right?
But he'd built a website in a way where...
With, like, wicks.
No, it was what's called, like, a spider web website.
So what you do is you give it like a million pages.
So if people say it's comedy, I want comedy.
Because it had so many pages, it would link to that site.
But it's illegal to do it that way.
It's tricking the Google algorithm.
So I think it got kicked off Google, right?
And then you're done.
And that killed the business.
How did you get kicked off Google?
Because Google go, well, they don't kick you off,
but they go, we're going to put you on the 25th page.
It's like people file websites.
You probably get on Google, but they'll kick him off.
Fuck me.
Yeah, but they don't build a spider web website.
Yeah, that's true.
They stick to the rules somehow.
They do it the traditional way.
They've got a square space.
I'll touch kids, but I won't fuck with algorithms.
Who says they ain't got morals?
Oh, my God.
So they push them onto, like like page 25 of Google or whatever.
But initially he was getting all these inquiries.
So people were getting in touch going,
do you know what X Christmas do?
I want a comedian to do 20 minutes.
And he was going, right, I'll get you one for 400 quid.
I'll get you one for 300 quid.
So he's asked me, it was a Tuesday night in December
and it was 400 quid to do 20 minutes
for this works party in Yorkorkshire that sounds that doesn't
sound too bad so far right so i was like four ton cash on the night all good i'll take that this is
about five years ago right so i get there and it's a shit show oh they're all hammered already they
haven't started eating yet what any mic a radio mic but they went um so just we just want you to
just be in the room while you do it i was like where's the stage they're like in the room as
opposed to you know be here in it walk around literally walk around while you're doing your
like one of the waiters yeah it's like one of those 1930s Just like Hey how you doing Hey Let me do the mood
Try the fish
Yeah yeah yeah
Like a table magician
They wanted a table comedian
Come on hang on
Hey guys how you doing
Nods
Nods
It was a nod
So I went
Right so when am I on
They went after the awards
I went
I'm not hosting the awards
Am I
They went
No no no
I was like
I'm not fucking doing that
For this movie
So at what time
Will I be on
Because I've got another gig Back in Liverpool What time is your other gig And it didn't exist I was like I'm not fucking doing that for this movie so I went what time will I be on because I've got another gig
back in Liverpool
what time is your other gig
and it didn't exist
I was like
it's at midnight
it's a nightclub gig
it's a famous late night
midnight Tuesday
but I was just looking
at the stream going
the longer this goes on
so she went
so what time do you need to leave
I was like half ten
I've got to be in the car
by half ten because my stage time? I was like, half ten. I've got to be in the car by half ten.
Because my stage time initially booked was like 9.30.
I got there at 9.15 and it was like, I'm not going on in 15 minutes.
So it gets to 10 o'clock and I was meant to do half an hour.
I was like, look, you're going to have to put me on now
or I'm going to have to cut my time down.
I've got to be in the car by half ten.
She was like, yeah, yeah, we'll do it.
It's fine.
Got to 25 past ten.
And she went, right, we're going to get you on now
because you need to go,
don't you?
She's hammered the woman on.
You need to go.
You need to go.
I could see the woman's face.
So,
no,
no,
listen.
We've got a comedian.
They didn't even know.
No,
shut up.
Just shut up.
His name's Adam.
He's come from Liverpool
and he's doing some jokes for us.
So, go on Adam
and that was it
so I've got them
I'm stood next to her
I didn't know
I'd gone over to her
to go
I've got to go in
and she'd go
you need to go
everyone
go on comedian
his name's Adam
he's come from
Liverpool
go on babe
right
and I went
thank you
right
so my mate
I didn't drive at the time
Tony Cooper took me.
You know Tony, who I used to work with?
Yeah, yeah.
And he's like, you know when your mate's embarrassed for you?
Oh, yeah.
He's like, oh, what the fuck?
So I'm doing me five minutes.
And I got to five minutes in.
And it hadn't gone as bad as it should have for that room.
Because there's people walking around.
The bar's not even still open.
There's people queuing at the bar, like for eager bombs there's about 20 percent of the
room looking at me but the ones looking yeah and i just got to five minutes and i went ladies
gentlemen that's all i've got time for tonight enjoy the rest of your night and i i went i give
her the mic and she went when are you doing the rest of it and i went what you mean the rest of
it she went you half an hour We paid for half an hour?
And I went, yeah, but I told you I've got to go a half ten.
I was meant to be on a half nine.
She went, so we just don't get the other 20-odd minutes?
This is a, you're a thief.
You're a fucking thief.
And I went, I haven't stolen anything.
And she went, I want my money back, because I'd made her give me the money before. Oh, yeah, yeah,'t stolen anything she went I want me money back
because I'd made her
give me the money
before I went off
she went
I want me money back
and I went
you're not getting
your money back
and she went
he's taking my money
and I went
guys
I'm not taking any money
I've been paid for this job
and then
her boss come over
and was like
just fucking let him go
go on lads
you get off
and I got off
but she was fuming
and then
they did write a complaint
To Steve
Asking for their money back
And he just told them
To fuck off
That makes Antiques Rocho
Look a lot easier
Doesn't it
Yes Rojo
Bro that's hilarious
Oh my god
Come on mate
He's a comedian
When she doesn't even say
For some reason
Where she didn't say
Adam Ro
She goes just Adam
It makes you sound like
A guy who just
Walks off the street
like there's a real
lack of just like
oh just some little
kid called Adam
I don't even think
it was disrespected
I don't think she'd
ever learned me
saying anything
the other one
is where they've
got
have you ever
done a round table
one where they do
too much intro
and you would
give half the fee
to prize the
microphone out
of the speaker
I had one
in Shropshire,
the Chartered Surveyors or something,
round table, it was great money.
And he was in a full like,
you know, like a,
hear ye, hear ye.
It was mental, red,
like a town crier outfit.
Ruffle shirt and shit.
Fuck it, like the mayor's thing.
I was like, what is going on?
And he started reading out the
blurb from my website on my biography that i'd written and it was one of the cringest i can just
see suits suits suits and like you can see future hatred come in and he's literally like out of the
17th century like hey hey with cutting observations one of the 17th century like hear ye hear ye with cutting observations
one of the
brightest stars
on the northwest
comedy circuit
and I was like
he works well
on his own
and as part of a team
he performed
the Edinburgh Festival
in 2012
and 13
I don't know
given anyone
if he'd just gone
go on babe I'd have been like much better
oh mate the shit we do for money man fucking birthday gigs and shit anything essentially
have you done birthday gigs i've done one birthday gig all on the way up in it all on the way up
and it was for 150 quid and it was in this sort of um above a pub. And the guy said to me, you know, we're going to have some curry.
And you come on after the curry.
But the curry was like, and he was like, but this curry is good curry.
It's like this award.
He kept on going on about this fucking curry.
And I was like, so I've got to follow the curry.
All right, cool.
I mean, the curry's won awards.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Come on, mate.
And it was for his son's 21st.
And it was all like, it was like sort of his friends. And it was only like, it was for his son's 21st and um it was all like it was like sort of his friends and
it was only like it was his birthday but there's only one table of his friends it was on you know
i'm saying like there's like a lot of older people and only one table of 21 year olds which i find
weird like a business meeting yeah around uh yeah yeah if it's a 21 year old's birthday
party there should be other 21 year olds not just one table's worth that i find that weird
i don't know but it's rich people banter though isn't it they were rich oh yeah he must have been
he was a music producer what i found him anyway so i was booked for 20 minutes and i've gone on
stage and i've just started material it's bombing so i started doing crowd work i'm taking the piss
out of everyone it's gone okay It's not great
But it's survivable
And I've come off stage
And the guy's counting my money
He's got a fucking wad like this
He goes you know
You went a little bit under time
But I'm gonna give you your money
But you know
You just went a little bit under time
I thought you'd do longer
And you know
You enjoyed yourself
And I was like
How long did I do
He goes 19 minutes 30
Over 20 minutes
And he was complaining about 30 seconds.
Do you rule a 10% that in it?
You know.
Fucking hell.
You're doing a 20, 18 or 22 is fine.
Yeah.
That's how you get a wad.
Yeah.
By being that much of a tight arse cunt.
I remember the stand and I was like, what?
And he goes, you know, I thought you'd want to stay longer and enjoy yourself.
And I was like, why do you think I want to stand here with your weird fucking friends?
And your curry.
You cunt. And hang out. Give him the money. Yeah, and hang out. He thought I wanted to stand here with your weird fucking friends? And your curry? You cunt.
And hang out.
Give him the money.
Yeah, and hang out.
He thought I wanted to hang out with him and, you know,
hey, let me, you know, stay around for a little.
You ever been tipped by one of those douchebags?
Never.
I've had it at gigs, private parties.
The guy that's not even paying you comes over,
go work that kid.
Yeah.
And then you're like, oh my God, I've got 20 quid in my hand.
I've just been
douchebag tipped
like I'm gigging
for good fellas
like hey
you're alright
here's 20 quid
I had a Jonglers
in Huddersfield
and it was
five pound coins
I'm not even messing
it was a Jonglers
on the road
I did it with
Doug Seagal
Silky
and Jim Smallman
and me and Jim Smallman were sort of at the side of the stage.
Someone come over and put £5 coins in my hand.
I heard you get tips in Dubai.
That's where people would tip you.
That's what I heard.
People come up and give you, like, you know.
If you say, apparently, if you sell merch,
someone would say, oh, here, you know,
they'll give you, like, 100 quid for your fucking DVD or whatever.
They are a bit, yeah.
I've done gigs in Bahrain where, you know,
sometimes a promoter goes, oh, we're going to film tonight.
And usually now you're like, oh yeah, yeah, fine.
Maybe use it as a clip.
And they were like, we're going to film tonight.
We might use it as an advert,
but obviously we'll pay you an extra 200 quid.
You're like, okay.
FYI, that doesn't happen in fucking Huddersfield.
On the time thing, there's a legendary story.
Now I've heard this about three different comics, right?
I don't know which one it is.
I'm not going to name any of them because I don't know who it is.
But it's about Alex.
Do you know the story I'm about to tell about Alexanders in Chester?
So Danny McLaughlin now books Alexanders.
Have you played it?
No, no, no, no, no, no.
I know about it.
It was Steve Walsh's name ran it, but it's Danny's.
Yeah, so it used to,
back in the day,
it was ran by the people
who owned Alexander's
and her name was Pauline
and she had a reputation
amongst comedians
for being a bit of a twat.
Right?
She's out the game now.
She can't affect my career.
So they used to run it.
There was no compare.
The opener did 20.
The middle did 30 and The middle did 30.
And the closer did 40.
Fucking hell, man.
And what would happen is the headliner went on before the opener to go,
ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Alexander's.
I'm your headliner.
I'll be back on later.
Your opening act is Dan Nightingale.
Right?
Then the opener had to stay till after the interval and bring the middle act on.
And the middle act had to stay till after the interval and bring the middle act on and the middle act had to stay till after
the second interval
to bring the headliner on
and that's how they did it
the headliner didn't have
to do that
the headliner was asked
and if you did it
you got an extra
20 quid
oh right
I didn't know that
yeah
that was
that was the deal
they knew you didn't
want to do it
as the headliner
so they said
obviously if you do that,
we'll give you an extra 20 quid.
Why don't you just give that, say, double that 20 quid
and just let an open mic emcee them?
It would be a lot better.
Why would you do that when you've made up your own batshit crazy system?
That is a mad, that is a mad.
So the story I was told was a Northwest headliner comic
was closing Alexander's.
This is early noughties, think maybe late 90s and uh he gets
there and he goes on and introduces the opening act and then the opening act was like i've got
to go and get me train like whatever so the headliner dead sound went i'll bring the middle on
i'll bring the middle on fine so the headliner goes on in the middle and goes ladies and gentlemen
next act is jamali maddox here's your middle act then goes on at the middle and goes ladies and gentlemen next act is Jamali Maddox
here's your middle act then goes on at the end
told the middle to get off
and just went on and did 37
minutes
and the woman who booked the gig
was like did fucking 37
it's 40 for a reason
so he literally the audience
was still there and he told them all to
sit back down went went back on,
stood in silence for three minutes exactly,
and then left, got his money, told us to fuck off,
and said, I'll never play your club again.
That is a G, man.
That, honestly, I've never heard that,
but I love those legendary stories that are like...
They just go round and round.
Yeah, that's the story I hear
that's great
I mean that guy's got
fucking balls man
to stand in silence like
I respect that
2 minutes 58
because I feel like
that's a situation
that if I was in
I would be in a shower
and be like
I should have done that
you know what I'm saying
because it's one of those things
of at the moment
you don't think
yeah you don't
you don't think to do that
oh and on the drive home you're like oh, I should have said all of these things.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm sorry about that.
It's not that you don't even say it.
It's just that, because sometimes the situation is so shocking, you don't know what, it's
not that you don't have the ability not to say anything, but you just don't know what
to say.
The level of country takes you by surprise.
Yeah, yeah.
You kind of go, oh, because you just don't expect such a, like a situation happened the
other day where I did a gig
and someone was kicking off.
So I got them kicked out.
And as a joke, I said from stage, I said,
how much did you pay to get in?
I'll pay you to leave, right?
And then the promoter then gave the money to the people out of my money.
And I was like, no.
And I was like, okay.
And I left. And then I was like, and I was like okay and I left
and then I was like
wait a second
no
and I rang him
and I was like
I want my 20 quid back
actually
and he goes
yeah alright
as he's there
cleaning the toilets
yeah yeah
but then
but you know
because I just didn't
because it's such a weird scenario
you kind of go like
and it really was
bothering me all weekend
I was like
why did you give him my fucking money like obviously's obviously just boot them out and then i was like
so i rang him and i was like you know what man like i'm not happy with that situation like i had
it all built up and he was like yeah i'll just give you about 20 quid mate and i was like ah
fair enough you know i did that at my tour show in blackpool when that guy was a cunt to you and
then was even cunty with me oh Oh, he really lost his temper. Yeah.
At that Blackpool Comedy Club.
But it was my tour show.
So what had happened was,
did we talk about this on a Patreon or a public?
I honestly can't remember.
About a month and a half ago, wasn't it?
So, sorry for the repeat for anyone,
but I had a tour show that was rescheduled
from March until September
at the Blackpool Comedy Club.
And it sold quite well.
It was fun.
But because I hadn't done an hour for like eight, nine months,
I was like, what I'll do is I'll compare it.
I'll bring two support acts and I'll do like 40, 50 at the end.
So they get a full night even though I'm not gig fit for an hour.
In the end, I ended up doing over an hour at the end
didn't I
like an hour and five
or something
or 55 I think it was
but you did stuff
in the previous night
but I'd compared
20 minutes at the top
before Dan
and they were sound
they were fun
everyone was enjoying it
it was a great gig
Dan goes on
and you know
the typical comic thing
you're ripping it
but you can see the one guy
who's having a shit time
so he'd done a bit about
was it seagulls
he had been laughing yeah but he'd done a bit about Was it seagulls He had been laughing
Yeah
But he'd just got a face on
About one thing
I'd said something
In passing to him
Offhand yeah
He was talking to his missus
Going
And I was like
Basically went
Fuck you're loud
You can't whisper
It was real
He was like
Just to keep him quiet
Yeah
Yeah so
He had that real blackpool face
You don't say that to fucking me
and you went mate if the seagull bit's not gonna get you don't know what it is
so then he went to he went to dan uh i come to see adam i didn't come to see you lot this is
doing me fucking head in so i was like right so when i went back on to bring dan off i went mate
come on what's the matter you're gonna still see well over an hour of me you're getting more
than you've paid for really but no that's not what i paid for and i went well no one says that at my shows so
because he was saying he was getting off i went you can have your money back i don't know whether
ryan gave me because i don't really look at my breakdowns to be honest with you my my agent could
just take all of my money and be like it's just 25 30 quid from that but i i told him i was like
if you want to leave you can fucking have your money back i'm not gonna like i'd rather give
someone their 12 14 quid back whatever my ticket price going to like, I'd rather give someone their 12,
14 quid back,
whatever me ticket price was,
to not have them be able to say,
I went to see Adam Rowe and I didn't get what I paid for.
You fucking peep.
My favourite bit of that was,
as he was going,
well,
I didn't pay for you,
I paid to see Adam Rowe.
This woman at the other side went,
well,
we're enjoying it.
So shut the fuck up.
And the whole room,
it was the most Northern moment
And I bottled
I literally got the table down
And hid behind it
Like let's kick it off
Let's get an extra
Northern
I do like when that person
Does take your side
Because sometimes
I'll go off on someone
Because I like to
Be mean
And I'll go off
And sometimes I'll go
Am I in the wrong
And then someone just goes
No she's been a cunt
All night
She fucking has
Isn't it
Yeah I don't like that Should we have an advert Yeah man Good shot And then someone just goes, no, she's been a cunt all night. Oh yeah. She fucking has, hasn't it?
Yeah.
Should we have an advert?
Yeah, man.
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I haven't listened to it
Do you know the last album
I listened to that was
Fucking really good
Was um
The guy who's in Get Out
You know Little Realm
Oh
I'm gonna get out
Mate
His album
Is so fucking funny man
It's just like a
Little Realm Little Realm How We And it's uh Album is like Live from Compton or something His album is so fucking funny, man. It's just like a little rel, little rel Howie.
And his album is like live from Compton or something.
He does it in Compton.
And it's kind of like somewhat of an Edinburgh show,
but more American style.
But it's just like wall-to-wall funny.
Just, you know what I mean?
It's not talking about politics and shit,
but it's just fucking funny shit. I'm more and more getting into this yeah yeah he has this one it's
based the story based around him having to pay for his uncle's funeral and because now he's rich and
famous his family trying and it's just like i was creasing man it's such a good look when you
get those guys and then and they've still got the sharpness of when they were circuit acts yeah yeah
well you know when like
they're 10, 15 years in,
you get a lot of drop off
with the big guys, don't you?
They're just kind of a bit soft.
You realise how that,
because I did one club in America
where it was like the weekend
and you realise how you have to get good
because those club weekends
are so fucking hard, man.
Like to do an hour at a club
is not fucking easy man
And with the noise
And like you realise
Oh that's why
They're the top percentile
But one thing
I would put
I think our hacks
Are better than their hacks
Oh I think
Their hacks are fucking bad
Here's my theory
Our hacks are better
Than their hacks
Because our hacks
Will have a
80s
Alternative to them
Do you know what I'm saying
No they kind of have Some 80s alternative And they You know what I'm saying they kind of have
some 80s alternative
and they
you could tell one time
oh this was a good act
but now it's just bad
but you did it
25,000 times
dickhead
but
yeah
I think we have
um
America has
shitter shit
but
better good
yeah better good yeah
we're like a nice
we've got a
we've got a smaller spread
are we doing the podcast yet is that no i'm sorry it's great i was like yeah but no club
weekends ain't no fucking no fucking hard oh by the way i'd love to do live at compton
i don't know how it'd go i don't think it'd be the perfect place to do an edinburgh preview but
i'd give it a crack i think they got a uh like someone was telling me about a comedy gig they have in compton or one of the inglewood or something
and uh it's like a clown i've seen the videos online it looks like if you're gonna bomb it's
gonna be the worst bomb ever but if you do well it looks like it would be you know i gig him wrong
i'll be all right i know the brothers i don't think Compton's going to be as bad now
as it was like
apparently gentrified now
yeah
because you hear Compton
and you hear
Boys in the Hood
and like
same as Brixton
what's the other one
NWA
what's the other film
Boys in the Hood
where about do you live
we're back on by the way
you just have to figure out
where we started
East London
fine
it's your job innit
East London where like Hackney Base is that East London near What? Fine. It's your job, isn't it? East London.
Where, like, Hackney Bays?
Is that East London?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sweet.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think if I did do the London for a year thing.
London for a year.
You're not doing it.
Don't do it.
Don't give me a fucking panic attack on it.
Well, I'm not coming to turn Pike green just so you can record a fucking podcast.
You never leave in Liverpool?
Don't think so. you love liverpool like i could see myself just to give him an actual stroke
i could see myself doing like new york for a year yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that makes sense
i could see my wife's face when i'm like i'm going to new york without him
i'm not gonna get off the word but we're gonna rent studio space in new jersey
i can imagine you yeah because you you i've never seen someone rep a city as hard as you do I'm not going to get off the word, but we're going to rent studio space in New Jersey.
I can imagine you, yeah.
Because I've never seen someone rep a city as hard as you do.
Like, you really go in for your city.
I would think you was in a gang.
How hard you go for Liverpool.
I think you're mistaken tweets about Liverpool as being the city and not the football club.
No, it's just you have a love for that city that I've never seen.
Like, I'm from London.
I love London. city That I've never seen Like I'm from London I love London
But even I go
Eh I'm a bit
You know
But you
Are through and through
Do you know what's really funny though
There's
I'm not that bad am I
Like there's so many more
Professional Scousers
Compared to me
Okay
We talk about this quite a lot
It's a Scouse thing though isn't it
Yeah
It's a pride
It's pride
Yeah there is a
There is a mad
sort of
parochial nature
even like even the
black cabs still have
the stickers of like
we ain't buying the sun
and it's like
no one's selling it
but it's still that
fucking really
you know
yeah that's it
it's next
yeah if you look next to you
on the left
there's a sticker
see on the light box
yeah I'm saying though
it's sort of that real
like in London
we just kind of
we sort of shift and change it's not a good thing but you sort of shift and change a lot and it's sort of you real Like in London We just kind of We sort of Shift and change
It's not a good thing
But you just shift and change a lot
And it's sort of
You know
Is it because London
Is so many things
Yeah
Like it's
It's every conceivable
Yeah
Like creed, colour
Yeah
Social spectrum
Yeah
There's the ultra wealthy
Of the world
Along with some of the
Poorest people in
Yeah yeah yeah
Europe
It feels like it's
Changing now
Where it feels like That sort uh changing now where it feels like
that sort of you know that that the people who are the working class are getting driven out hard
you know i'm saying where yeah where before it all ended up in like kent and yeah yeah they're
really pushing them out you know like you can see it now where you go hackney and you don't see that
many working class people you see a lot of erpsuppies and shit. I mean, Brixton got mentioned.
Brixton 25 years ago was rough, man.
Now Brixton's like, it's properly on the way.
You can't afford a parking space in Brixton.
That's how fucking bad it is there.
Do you know why I once rang?
Do you know when I was like 17
and I was looking at moving out
because my dad was doing me a zing
and I'm fucking moving out.
I was on Zoopla, right?
That's it, I'm going to the next thing.
No, Mayfair.
I'll try Mayfair.
I like the fags.
Kensington.
There's one of them in Liverpool.
That'll be cheap.
Do you know that Buckingham Palace is large?
It's so much cheaper than what you think it is.
I've seen an advert for a city centre
spot
and it was
125 quid a month
and I was like I can afford that
so I rang them and I was like
I want this, 125 quid a month
I work at Mackey's
You even called it Mackey's
for professionalism I'm earning like a few hundred quid a week 125 quid a month. I work at Mackey's. You were called at Mackey's for professionalism.
I'm earning like a few hundred quid a week.
I can, 125 quid a month.
I want this fucking,
I thought it was a one bedroom apartment.
It was a parking space in Liverpool.
You were living in a parking space.
I thought you meant you were,
you were doing,
your dad was doing your editing
and you were going to London.
No.
What a fucking,
what a 17 year old move that,
dad, you're pissing me right off.
That's it.
I'm going Amsterdam.
Fuck you.
Oh my God.
That's funny.
Yeah, the woman on Iron Man.
I honestly thought you were on Zoopla in London.
I can remember the woman's tone of voice on the phone.
She was like,
what do you mean you want this place?
She was like,
where do you live? And I was like in West Abbeybey at the minute but like always wants to live in town you do know this is a parking space and i was like i remember going for the 125
it's one of them phone calls where she's like this has not been worth my time in terms of the
waste of time but it's worth it for the fucking anecdote.
She dined out on that for three years.
Carol, tell the story about that guy that rang up about the parking space.
Anyway.
He said it's messed up.
I'm earning a couple hundred quid a month.
I could make this work.
How's London Town been with the old fucking Rona and the lockdown?
Has it felt more mental?
Does it still feel quiet?
What's going on? You realize that paying a lot of money for a flat when you can't leave it ain't worth it.
Do you know what I'm saying?
You realize that you are buying it for the city and not the home because your home is shit.
Do you know what I'm saying?
You're paying the extra money for all the shit you can go out and do.
Yeah, but then when that's not there,
you realise, oh, this is my house and there's not much here.
In the lockdown, I was taking pictures,
my daughter would be in the garden,
and I'd be like, oh, I'll send it to a couple of mates
that lived in London.
Yeah, yeah.
And I stopped myself and just didn't send them the picture
because it had my garden in the background.
And I was like, I feel like I'm going to be gaslighting my friends
via WhatsApp because they're in a two-bedroom flat friends man because this is a hammer smith
horrible i mean and uh you realize that like as well that you don't need to be in london like the
idea of being in london for showbiz just doesn't exist anymore like there's nothing i didn't do
on zoom that i couldn't do from anywhere in the world. That whole idea of
like, if you don't live in London, it's good. I just don't think that's true. And I think
kind of like, I think I dispelled that myth. I think this is, this is, this podcast has
become an advert to get Jamali back to the north. I just, I just, I do. No, I think the
getting no work left a bad taste in my mouth. Like frog and bucket was not having it. What
the fuck happened there? Like there's loads of jamali's knocking about like the northwest comedy scene we got
too many of you just too many because that's what i remember i i did the frog and bucket uh
you probably don't remember you've done so many but the gong show and i won i do remember you
and they never gave me spots yeah they wouldn't give me spots and i don't maybe i did bad there maybe my my uh
yeah i know it's a really serious point about maybe even like racism within northern booking
and adam's just put a i found a hole um not a serious point but um yeah man i'm gonna tell
you but they just a bunch of craps just weren't having him you know he's what is uh yeah it's
it's a fucking it's a shame innit And it's probably endemic
Of a bigger sort of like
We just bought what we like
And what we know
And it's a failing really innit
It's alright
The next time I saw you
Was at the
Festival in the Alps
Remember
Yeah the altitude
I think I literally saw you
At Beat the Frog
And I was like
This guy's quite good
And then six months later
He's one of the featured
At altitude
And I was like
Yeah turns out
You don't need that work
In Manchester
Because you're one of the featured I was like I basically was like yeah turns out you don't need that work in Manchester because you're one
of the featured
I was like
I basically got it
as like we need to compare
for a couple of those
early shows
there's a tier system
at Altitude
if you've never heard
of Altitude
it's a ski gig
it's the weirdest thing
it's one of my biggest
fucking bugbears
with this fucking
COVID thing
okay there's death
okay the economy's crashing
but I was booked
to do Altitude
for the first time
this year
and it obviously
got fucking panned
and it sounds mental
but a comedy
small comedy festival
takes over part of
what's it called
Alpen
Meinhofen
it's a really nice
like ski resort
and you're just bumping into
one of the weirdest things
that's ever happened to me
in comedy was
my flight was getting in
at the same time
as Sean Locke
and Bill Bailey and the guy who rang the festival was like so Dan if it's alright you to me in comedy was my flight was getting in at the same time as Sean Locke and Bill Bailey.
And the guy who rang the festival was like, so Dan, if it's all right, you're getting in first.
Do you mind waiting around 40 minutes?
Because Sean Locke and then Bill Bailey will come and you'll get transported together.
And I had to be like, yeah, yeah, cool.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, I'm going to go, no, fuck him.
I'll get the flight.
I'll get the wrong car, bitch.
So I was having a beer at Munich airport.
This beautiful, like, German lager going, this is weird. You get loads of these moments in stand-up, don't you? Where you're like, this is weird. so I was having a beer at Munich airport this beautiful like German
lager going
this is weird
you get loads of these moments
in stand up
don't you
where you're like
this is weird
this is my job
this is my life
Sean Locke taps me on the shoulder
like you Dan
and then proceeds to join me
for a beer
Sean Locke by the way
is as sound as you think he is
he's a fucking good guy
then Bill Bailey
and his like
techies come
because he goes everywhere
with people that
set up his instruments they turn up and we have one of the most batshit semi-pissed drives from
munich to austria bill bailey has got a bottle of the strongest peach snaps you've ever fucking
seen from munich airport me sean lock two techies and bill bailey get fucked up on peach snaps on the weird autobahn into the
austrian hills and i was fucking steaming by the time we got there at one point bill bailey at a
service station got out and we're all like going for like a half cut piss he comes back with and
this is the this is the bonus of being a wealthy person you know when you're in a service station
with your mates you're like i just buy this to be funny but obviously you're not a millionaire so you've got a limit on what you
can spend he spent at least 350 euros on tat for he came back with fucking toys he had we were
hammered drink like such a surreal moment where i'm talking to sean lock pissed on schnapps about
chelsea and then like a toy dinosaur comes into my view because bill bailey's like amazing and i we got there they were so sound and that was the first time i'd seen you
since beat the frog and you we were in we're in fucking austria in the hills you absolutely
smashed it was great yeah it was a good festival that time yeah i um it's weird as well as i it's
funny you say that because i realized this the
other day that uh i was uh i was thinking about the place i've been i've been oh i've been more
countries with comedians i hardly see than my own girlfriend yeah you know what i'm saying though
like we've been to austria yeah yeah yeah we've been to somewhere really like you know what i'm
saying like we traveled like you and me have been to beat the Frog in Manchester, Austria and Runcord. Yeah, man. We've literally seen the world together.
It is weird, isn't it?
I love those moments.
Because you can go on one of those abroad trips
with a comic who you're not really mates with
and by the end of it,
it's like you're brothers in arms from war.
If you do an Edinburgh Festival package show
with two other comics who you don't know,
by the end of it,
they're your fucking
Best mates on the planet
Hashtag never forget
You'll
You'll always remember
The guys who do those
Packard shows in Edinburgh
Did you do a Packard show
I did Big Value
In 2004
Oh damn
Yeah
Who was on with you
There was two shows
The early shows was
Hills Barker
Kev Dewsbury
Josie Long
And Seymour Mace
Yeah
And the late show
was me
Mark Oliver
Will Hodgson
and Mick Ferry
it's a bit of a laugh
the year before
had been
I don't know if it was the year before
had been like Jim Jefferies
Steve Hughes
and the year after
I think was Manford
yeah
like
it's so weird how it works
but
I never did
I did
the reserve
Pleasant Reserve
bombed
that's the golden ticket
that though
who is your
alumni of that year
I was on with
Tom Little
I love Tom
you know Tom Little
his videos are smashing
at the minute
just a little side note there
check
this is Tom Little
on Twitter
he's been doing
some amazing work.
Jordan Lockdown,
he's got really creative with his stuff.
Just got your lover's videos.
Go and check them out.
He's a funny guy.
Yeah.
A poet guy
who doesn't do it no more.
No shit.
Yeah, a poet guy
who doesn't do it no more.
And yeah,
I can't remember the other one.
I can't remember.
Not a good sign, is it?
It's not a good sign.
No, no, no.
If it was Joe Lysa, you'd remember, wouldn't it?
Yeah.
That was fucking that long ago.
Who was your big value?
You did big value, didn't you?
Yeah.
I did it with...
I did it twice.
Did you do it with Dane?
No.
What if I...
We did it with Dane.
Right.
I did it with Elliot Steele, Ed Hedges, and Vin Satter. The first time I did it. And then the second time I did it, Dane right I did it with Elliot Steele Ed Hedges and Vin Satter
the first time I did it
and then the second time
I did it
they just
they were like
we've got a gap
like
I was already doing
the festival
and they were like
we need a comp here
someone's dropped out
and I was like
I'll do it
it's a way to sell tickets
because you're showcasing
and that one was with
Harriet Dyer
who I've become quite close
with across that month
eh Alistair Williams
and
George Rigdon
yeah
so I'm trying to look online and see who I did it with because I feel bad
I forgot their names
and they'll remember you
no no no one of them's still around
but the Pleasance Reserve is a golden ticket
because you get paid to do the month they put you up and you get guaranteed a spot to do your debut hour at the
pleasant oh yeah yeah it's like a scholarship made the big big value when i did it back in
you know 1812 you got you got 500 quid accommodation it was it was it was great
and it just gradually over the years those, they've depreciated in value.
Is it weird that the day we found out
we're probably not going to be gigging for about six weeks,
we've come in here and romanticized about stand-up
more than we've done on this podcast for ages?
Well, I apologize if I made it too comedy-centric.
Oh, mate, we don't.
No, that's not you.
That's us.
It's us.
Our listeners are fucking well-intentioned.
We get so many questions sent in about stand-up Oh that's not you That's us It's us Like our listeners Are fucking well We We sort of
We get so many questions
Sent in about stand up
That we
We tend now
To only talk about it
When they come in
But when it happens
Naturally with a comic
It's some of our favourite
I miss
I miss
Nerding out about comedy
You know
There is a sort of thing
Of miss talking to comedians
And miss
Talking shit
And you know
I'm gonna go
I went
I'm at this weekend off But last night I went down to Hot mistalking shit. I'm going to go. I've had this weekend off,
but last night I went down to Hot Water to hang out.
And I'm going to go back tonight.
Brennan Reese is doing the Late Show at Hot Water tonight,
so I'm going to go meet him for food
and then go and watch the Late Show.
I went down last night.
Danny McLaughlin compared,
and he's, as far as I'm concerned,
a top three compared in the country.
He's so fast.
He's so fucking ridiculously quick.
His nostalgic references that someone heckled last night
and he said, shut up the witches of Eastwick.
And it just fucking levelled me.
Also, his shit out at one point.
Like, if you haven't checked Danny's stuff out,
he's got loads of clips on the Hot Water channel.
He's also started a podcast recently called
The Damn Daniel Podcast.
Go and check it out.
It's brilliant.
But you know when you see a comic go to say something on stage and they sort of reverse
out of it.
So he was talking to a girl and she was like,
I'm a makeup artist,
but he'd already spoken to these five loud Scouse women.
And he was like,
that's definitely one of them.
Statistically five Scouse women have got Muir in the Facebook name.
They've got MUA,
one of these.
And one of them went,
no,
we're not Muirs
and he never said it
and when he came off I went you nearly called them
Muirs didn't you and he went yeah
I was like I seen you just go
no I'm not going to go with that part
he's so good with the word play
like that he was in the back of the Nottingham
where I was doing a bit of crowd work and one
one guy was like what
do you do for a job? And the guy went,
I work with diggers.
And I literally,
I got a hot flush.
I was like,
you really don't want to get any of those letters wrong
in that job description.
You don't want to say that too fast.
I know.
And Danny was at the back going,
mate, you've got to go back on and go,
digger what
digger please and it's just how his head works i i just saw it firsthand and went
and he's there doing oh you need to do a little bit of word play with it
i did a gig with danny mack and manchester and we both came in dressed in the exact same outfit
and he went and then he went i knew this would happen and he
bought a different jumper because he knew we were just like he preempted that we were and we had
exactly the same jumper it was like a thrasher jumper like black i was about to say he preempted
it preempted it so he compared last night nick page opened is sort of got that posh english
older guy about him simon was in the middle and i I went down because Danny was on No Ones to Hang Out
with a mate and talk to him,
but also because, and Deliso Close, just a great bill.
But watching Simon Wozniak again, he's just got it, you know.
I think Wozniak is a future.
I saw this a year ago.
Like three years ago, I gigged with you,
and you were on in the middle,
and it was the most difficult night of my fucking year.
And I got pissed off with the frog and the guy, like the tech call. I was like, why is he in the middle and it was the most difficult night of my year and i p i got pissed off with
the frog and the guy like the tech call i was like why is he in the middle i like did it in
front of it i was like get him the out of the middle he's a headliner and you're being a
bellend stop ruining my night give the crowd what they want and and i think was the acts get into
that point yeah you were like thanks for that mate but it sounded aggressive because I'm trying to compliment you
and also
make my fucking life easier
yeah
should have headliners
headlining
Midlax
should be Midlax
and Wozniak's at that point
where you're like
we need to get him on
he'll be great
but Wozniak
needs to be headlined
he's not far off
being like
funny man
he's
very funny
he's so
because he's got a similar accent to me
and a similar style to me.
He's one of the acts I most worry about following.
I did a weekend there a couple of weeks ago
and he was in the middle and I was closing.
Not ideal.
I had good sets all weekend
because it's hot water and it's fine.
But Carl was there one night.
Do you remember?
We were just watching and I was like,
he's just...
I'm crying laughing.
He used to be shit as well.
He was shit
he was really
he got gonged off
twice
in one night
it was me
me and him
ran a gong show
for a bit at Baby Blue
on a Wednesday
and he got gonged off
and he went
oh I didn't get to do
my meal deal bit
so I went to the audience
do you want him to
should we let him do
the meal deal bit
and he went back on
and then just didn't do
the meal deal bit
so he gonged him off
you ran a gong show
at Baby Blue.
Yeah.
That is honestly sounds like-
He hustled.
That is, man, that sounds terrible.
That sounds like the worst sentence in comedy, isn't it?
I would-
Gong show at Baby Blue.
I remember I did Baby Blue
and hecklers were tagging each other's heckles.
Like they were like tagging it.
They were like, and then you could say
have you thought that you could also call him a cunt like this
two seconds we're gonna mug you up yeah yeah but they were like tagging each other's heckles and
like it was i remember like walking off and being like i never again and then they booked me for a
weekend this one i needed weekends and it was looming in my diary for six months.
You know,
you just see it every week.
It's one week closer to doing a weekend there.
Five more sleeps till death.
And then luckily it got pulled.
Such a shame as well.
Cause baby blue could have been,
it's everything about the room screams comedy club.
I also think what we all sort of glossed over there
there's everything about that bit of the docks has a dark dark history that is soaked into those
walls like it like the history of that bit of slavery yeah mate you're like oh god that you
can feel the history in it you're like not all good though we used to have to smoke the room
before the gigs what we used to have to smoke the room out before the gigs what we used to have to get flavoured smoke
and smoke the room
out for an hour
so when there's a guy
in the corner with a
shisha pipe or something
that's what it looked like
because the smell
was that bad
because of the history
we'd have to smoke
the room out for an hour
before the gig could start
just go
hear the ghosts
get out
oh my god
but it looks
like
it looks like a good room
it's got personality.
I remember they had that one female doorman
who would just-
Oh, Anja.
Who just used to fucking-
Anja.
Anja.
Anja.
Fucking put people in headlocks.
Yeah, she was-
I fucking loved Anja.
She did not fuck around, did she?
She's lovely, Anja.
The blonde one?
Yeah.
Oh, she's great.
I loved Anja.
She was a teacher as well.
She was always just dead sound.
And she could twat you.
Oh, yeah.
You love it.
Yeah.
Jamali, you're...
I didn't want to make that a fancy thing
because I didn't, but yeah, that is...
Your bill was Malcolm Head,
you, Tom Little, and Joe Sutherland.
Joe Sutherland, that's the name.
Joe Sutherland.
Shout out to Joe.
Big respect.
Sorry I've forgotten.
No, no, no.
Speak to you later.
I'll give you a call.
See you at Christmas.
Yeah. I'm a shit with names names who's the guy that you we've got we're going to talk about some of the
stuff carl's got some bits but who's the guy that you see on a bill and you go like adam did with
wasney i can go i have do you know i don't have that but i do have the bad luck omens
you know those ones every time i see him i bomb oh that's so funny jeff in the sun
every time i see jeff if he's in the room i die i don't know what it is about i'll be killing all
week and then jeff will be and i'll just die like i think he's my bad luck charm he's a good comic
it's not that he's a bad guy he's a fucking great comic nothing to do with that he's a great comic
but i'm just saying it just it's just bad luck me Yeah yeah Whenever he's there It's just my bad luck
I just seem to always die
When he's there
And Dane for a long time
I would always die
If I was on the field
Dane Baptiste
It's just your bad luck
You know
My bad luck charm
It's just
For whatever reason
It was like an omen
Yeah I know what you mean
Have you got any of them
Where you just gig with them
And you're like
I've been some once
Dan Evans from Brighton Has literally had him turn up in a dressing room
and go oh god oh i never have a good one when you're here you're like hi mate nice to see you
i like both of those dudes you know what i'm saying like me and dana called it but it's just
for whatever reason it's just it was just bad luck it was just not my night when it happened
i don't know why man but it's just that weird i don bad luck. It was just not my night when it happened.
I don't know why, man,
but it's just that weird. I don't have that,
but I've told you before.
I have that with York
as a town.
Yeah.
York can just eat a bag
of fucking dicks
as far as I'm concerned.
Do you know what my town is?
Oswalt Twistle.
Oh yeah,
the Manfred's gig.
That fucking place.
How many times
have you done Oswalt Twistle?
Once,
because it was that bad.
Yeah,
but that's not a bogey town.
You had a bad gig.
I've done York ten times and took a fucking beating ten times.
Have you been to Oswald Twistle?
No.
You haven't been?
I see then.
That's why you don't know.
Oh, Lancaster as well.
I'm not good at Lancaster.
Have you got a problem with historic northern towns that have named their county?
Yeah.
Right, okay.
Like Lancaster, sunday gig in
lancaster i just get fucking slapped every time i do it last time i did it you were meant to be
doing it and you had like a car breakdown and i was like brilliant that's worked out great
and about eight minutes in i was like fuck you adam and fuck your broken car because i basically
ate my balls instead of you eating your balls i did did that gig with Jamie Sutherland comparing, Alan Cochran opening, me in the middle,
and Gary Delaney closing.
And we all died on our arses.
Now, I'm sorry, that's not our fault.
It's not all, it can't be all of you.
No, you can't have a bill like that.
Like, it's just not possible for that bill
to collectively decide to be shit that night.
There's a thing about that dying in silence.
Like, I don't mind going down that dying in silence like i don't mind
going down in flames like i don't mind everyone being like fuck you and like yeah the blues
brothers moment yeah yeah i'm good with that like i love that but like i love it but i can deal with
that but when it's just that i'm just we don't want to hear it silence that's just yeah that's
like that's disappointment when you hear someone clear their throat when you i remember i did leads and it was so bad that i had to do half an hour and i was doing my
closing bit and i looked at my watch and i was 10 minutes in and i was already doing my clothes
rushing through bits where it's just all dying and then i'm doing crowd surfing i said i said
who wants to see me crowd surfing i And everyone was like, not really.
And I did, and I jumped in the crowd.
And there was these two girls that were there,
and they went, ugh!
And they both jumped to the side.
And I just kind of...
Like the opening scene of School of Rock.
Just Jack Black, just face black.
Died and broke your ankle.
Yeah, it was fucking horrible.
The passage of time when you're having a bad gig,
it's just like...
It's literally like time slows down. It's when you get that really bad one, it's just like, it's so painful.
It's literally like time slows down.
It's when you get that really bad one,
you can feel the tingling in the back of your throat.
I remember once I did this show in Rotterdam.
It was my first international show.
And the first, so I had these two sets in the same venue.
The first one went all right.
Then after one of them, Tom Rhodes gave me a joint
and I was blasted.
Tom Rhodes. There's a legendary name. And he gave me a joint and i was blasted tom yeah yeah there's a
legendary name and he gave me a blunt and i was blasted and i went back on stage i'm doing my act
and i'm just dying and i'm high so paranoia is kicking in and i'm dying and i look out in the
crowd and it was the same people from the last show and i'm just doing the same jokes and i didn't
realize and then where i'm high if i was sober i would have been like oh i've doing the same jokes and I didn't realise and then where I'm high if I was sober
I would have been like
oh I've done the same bits
and done the same
but where I'm high
I'm just like
anxiety
and I can feel
you know like that old school
fear that's in your stomach
yeah
it tastes like a battery
and I was just like
and apparently Dutch audiences
will just go
oh yeah yeah
oh no we don't think this is funny
so we're just going to sit here
and just
they will stare at you
I've heard they don't laugh
yeah they do now yeah they never when i first started going there they didn't but i think now
with the internet they started laughing but they will just like it's notorious like you'll do a
show and it will go bad and they will come on stage and they will quote jokes back to you yeah
be like i love that bit you did about yeah because they come from cabaret so i think they think it's
rude to make noise right okay so they sort of like you know they watch cabaret where it's like comedy
and music so their whole thing is like we'll watch a show yeah the culture of a crowd is a weird thing
they love a premise yeah oh really like if you have a good premise they clap a premise they go
oh we want to hear where this goes they punch lines they have no interest
that's weird because i got to new zealand 12 years ago and i was all like observation caricature and
like they love a punch line i was watching the guys who were like that's a joke that's a joke
and they were like we get it that they fucking love the jokes and i quickly realized i i had to
really start stop fucking around and get to what I was calling
the punchline
it's a weird
cultural thing
do you think
New Zealand
is worth
that travel
in terms of a city
like in terms of a country
is it worth flying
all that way
when you get there
do you feel like
yeah
I feel like
when I go to New Zealand
for a 24 hour flight
I go
I know you mean
because it's not 24 hours
door to door it's 48
okay because i was like i lived in chester at the time this is 10 years ago i had to get the train
to manchester connecting flight to london london to sydney and you connect from sydney to all
london to dubai then sydney yeah of course and you stop in dubai for the weird like i'm not slept
and i'm like i ate a cheeseburger at five in the morning. And when I was 10 years in and did it for the first time,
it was one of the best things I'd ever done.
I thought it was like the comedy festival.
I loved it.
But I went again and had another good time.
And then I went the year after.
So I went in like consecutive years.
And that third time, because I'd done it the year before,
I was like, yeah, I'd rather be in witness or warrington
like because then it becomes a bit of a schlep like it's not something you do every time i know
this is like old hat as well but i feel like once you've been australia you get it the same way when
if you like say we have me in canada i've been america i get what you're doing right
they would vehemently argue that point but once you've been to france you get belgium
i get what you're doing
but like you know but rotterdam it's like i've been amsterdam i get what you're doing in rotterdam
i don't need to see at this point just i'm what I'm saying though And I feel like that For me New Zealand is that Kiwis are particularly sound though
Like it's a
Like I got there
And I fucking love them
Like they're so sound
And I had a great time
But I know what you mean
It's a long old journey
To just as well
The first night we went out
Do you remember Mickey D
Australian comic
He was like
You're in the fucking
You're in fucking Auckland
You're going to have a fucking great time
You're like
Yeah
You're dead excited
But you haven't slept properly
For two days
And your body clock's off
And we were out
We're like
Let's get fucking shots
And you're like
And I fell asleep
Propped up
I wasn't even like
Sat properly
And I fell asleep
Mid-body
He's like
Ah you dickhead
Fucking
There's a bit of jet lag
And then you're out again
See one argument
I have to that
Is that You're going to New Zealand With some of the funnest people In the world there's a bit of jet lag and then you're out again see one argument I have to that is that
you're going to
New Zealand
with some of the
funniest people
in the world
right
if you just went on
holiday to New Zealand
would you be happy
with the city
that's his question
you're mistaken
he's saying as a country
oh as a country
I'm not shitting the festival
the shit festival is great
is New Zealand worth
two days
oh you think
I'm not shitting on the festival
I love the festival
my whole experience is the the the classic comedy club in Auckland,
Wellington, where you stay in that amazing art house hotel.
I can't see New Zealand out of the prism of that festival.
But yeah, New Zealand seems sound.
It seems sound.
But Wales is nice.
Yeah, yeah.
Isn't it beautiful mountains and a very relaxed point?
That's the point of the bit I was making.
I wasn't at the festival.
I love the festival and I love doing comedy there.
I wasn't shitting on the festival.
Please book me back.
I live in Chester.
I'm an hour and a half from some of the nicest mountains in Snowdonia.
It's just that, I don't know.
I feel like some places I go there and I go, oh, it and i get it australia i get yeah once i've been
you know new zealand is like i you know i didn't need the extra yeah right for that i think it'd
be easy if you got to fly business class as well because giving yourself a way upgraded
not to australia but yeah to the middle east yeah and that just ruined the flight back
yeah oh really oh make and, who was it?
Just a comic that I didn't know well, but again, you're on a foreign trip,
so you're like, Evans, Simon Evans, who's like,
hello, I'm a fucking Tory dad.
But as soon as the boy's on tour, he's a great laugh.
We got a gulf air.
They were like, oh, we're going to upgrade you.
He was like, fucking spot on.
He looked like he'd been upgraded every flight of his life. a golf air they were like oh we're gonna upgrade you it was like fucking spot on he he he looked
like he'd been upgraded every flight of his life i look like the bell end who shouldn't be there
but he acted like he acted like how you and carl would act he was like oh fuck there's free cake
i just kept eating cake and then he watched a bollywood film from start to finish and i was
sat next to him i was like are you watching a bollywood film he's like it's absolutely fucking mental it was great fun we went we did a forces gig and on the way back
we were we were both like please upgrade us again please because when you've flown like 72 hours
before business class the thought of going like in the fucking bus and it was the time of year where uh everyone had been going to mecca
and so it was the mecca bingo the mecca crew
saudi arabian mecca
so there's something called uh what's it called mecca flu get it right yeah I think it's called
foreign something
I think it's called
mecca flu
where all these Muslims
from around the world
come and bring
their fucking
coughs and splutters
and colds
into one space
then they're it
they're it
the mecca
and then they do
the fucking
walking around the thing
the bingo
oh the cabal
yeah the cabal yeah nice one someone's worked for vice and then they do the fucking walking around the thing the bingo oh the cabal yeah
yeah the cabal yeah nice one
someone's worked for Vice
and then go round
and they literally just give each other the cough
and on the flight back
it was the
so far from the
we're eating cake
we're watching Bollywood films
we're lying back
it was just me
surrounded by a load of Muslim people
coughing like fuck
it was horrible
it was just
it just ruined the
flight back that you're looking at me like i'm saying something terrible yeah i can feel yeah
don't you try and cancel me i'm just i'm just wondering why muslims yeah yeah muslims that's
what i'm saying it sounds like if it was white people coughing go okay yeah yeah
It sounds like if it was white people coughing,
you'd go, okay, well,
but it's like Muslim coughing. I have a British cough.
Breathe it in.
You said the word Muslim so much there
that it was like that was part of the problem.
Not all of it.
It was just, it was weighing on your mind.
Bloody Muslims coughing.
Can we go back?
You don't get this at Lord's.
There's no fucking Lord's fountain flu.
I'll give you a clean edit.
There's just loads of really good people
and I felt like there was great diversity. on carl have you got anything you've got any features
what do we follow and and the ode to comedy uh yeah i have hang on sorry um right so this is
from keenan uh it's following on from the sleep eating Sleep walking thing Remember what we did
A couple of weeks ago
Yeah yeah yeah
Doing stuff in your sleep
You really have an amazing
Like
It's kind of a skill isn't it
Once I'm done with an episode
Once I leave today
I will forget everything
We've spoke about
Yeah
And then people write in
Like do you remember
When you talked about that rabbit
That you ran over when you were seven
It was eight days ago
So he said
Basically
Him and his missus have found
out he's got sex omnia so like insomnia is that a real thing i don't know it sounds like an excuse
i think it does sounds like uh what's he saying sex on like insomnia it is you can't sleep
where basically while we're while we're both asleep, I'll wake up, in quotation marks,
start playing with my missus and wake her up and have sex.
Okay, so he wakes her up, they have sex.
First of all, sound missus, by the way.
Normal sex.
Not unfunky, he said.
But then he'll fall asleep and wake up in the morning
and not remember.
Wow.
So he has, like, sleep like sleep sex he says for context
uh we found out she said last night was amazing and he hasn't got a fucking clue what she's going
on about uh i didn't know what you say about this but i thought it'd be an interesting funny topic
sex omnia it's actually it sounds like he's not doing a bit it sounds like he's genuinely going
this is a thing yeah so what's the question it isn question. Oh. It's just a follow-up on sleep eating.
Oh.
So he sleeps,
he sleep fucks.
Is it possible that like,
you sort of wake up a little bit,
have a horn,
have sex,
but then go back to sleep straight after?
To have no memory of it.
That's the strange part in it.
Also,
it'd make cub camp really fucking dangerous,
wouldn't it?
Like,
tent B got a bit rapey
do you reckon like a nonce
could get off of this
like you know
if he was on trial
sleep noncing
just like hard
sleep noncing
I don't remember it so
would it happen with like
would he pass a lie detector
people killed
people in their sleep
and have
not got off with it
but like been put into
like mental institutions
and shit
what got manslaughter
yeah
sleep murder
yeah
some place in America
I don't know sleep noncing I don't know yeah I'm just wondering would that stand up in court institutions and shit what got manslaughter yeah sleep sleep murder yeah someplace in america i
don't know sleep nonsense i don't know yeah i'm just wondering what that stand up have you seen
the fall now was it about sleep nonsense no it should be because that should be made it's your
serial killer we just had a big pitch me right now yeah because i like i'll be honest I'm probably not
going to get the
travel show
where I get to
go to Mecca
I think that's
now off the table
it's a serial killer
who kills loads of
women and then
loses his memory
and they're like
should he be tried
or not
yeah
oh yeah
he should
oh mate he's got
no recollection
let him go
he's got no
capacity to defend
himself
doesn't matter
he did do it
he shouldn't be
free though should he that's not how trials did do it He shouldn't be free though
Should he
No but that's not
How trials work is it
He shouldn't be free though
Just because you
Can't remember something
Totally
But the argument is
We can't argue
That we didn't do it
Because I can't fucking
Remember if I did or not
No
No you can't do that
It's like me going down
The pub and having too many
And it's like
Oh I thought
There's ten people killed
Ah I was pissed innit
And everyone goes
Yeah alright
Fucking
I was just standing there.
That fifth pint, I always got to be fucking.
That's insane.
Of course he should be tried.
It is a TV show.
Yeah, of course it is.
But I feel like it sounds quite dangerous,
fucking people in your sleep without remembering, though.
Oh, consent.
Yeah, it sounds.
It does sound like he's waking her up
and she's a bit of a horn dog.
And she's like, I'll fucking game for anything, mate. Yeah, she comes. It does sound like he's waking her up and she's a bit of a horndog and she's like,
I'll fucking game for anything, me.
Yeah, she comes out of this story
looking like an absolute champ.
What do you reckon would happen
if you did this to Laura?
To Laura?
First of all,
I'd have to sleepwalk from my room
in the spare room to her bed.
So already she'd be suspicious.
And then she's 14 weeks pregnant.
So I don't think it'd go well i'd have
to get over her pregnancy pillow and then round her fucking like and then be like babe and then
i think is then i'd get an elbow to the face what about like if she wasn't preggers though
not and you're not trying it's just general time the kids five now etta's 21. Right. Some fucking awful after. You're whacking numbers out here, aren't you?
I'm a time traveller.
Yeah.
She's Doctor Who.
But you're in bed together.
You've slept together because one of you's...
It has happened.
It has happened where...
What?
In the night, I've just woken up and I've been like,
God, I fucking love her.
The thing is, when you really love someone,
you like the fucking smell of them don't you i
know that sounds a bit aggressive but when you're lying next to missy's like oh fucking come here
it's um pheromones and chemicals and shit but they say that like there's a certain points of
the night where testosterone is the highest so you probably have a highest it's like why you
wake up with a hard dick it's because your testosterone is higher in the morning so that's
why you wake up with a boner because you've had a suppression of it in the night And then it's
Yeah mate I don't know
I don't like suppression
But I know that's the reason you get a boner in the morning
Is because of your testosterone levels
And that's me being very basic
No it's true
Same with alcohol
Same with alcohol
If you don't get a boner
Like alcohol suppresses your testosterone
So when you
You know when you're hungover in the morning
You feel horny
It's because you've had so long
Of your testosterone being suppressed And then you're In your in the morning you feel horny it's because you've had so long of your testosterone
being suppressed
and then you're
in your most rancid state
like ah fucking
you've got like
I just want to bang something
and no one wants to
even look at you
how often do you get
fucking morning
most mornings
yeah most mornings
most mornings yeah
Dan
yeah no
most mornings
right now
fuck off
yeah
yeah sometimes yeah well I mean how old are you you're my age isn't it 28 yeah so we're still at our peak of testosterone how old are you Right now Fuck off Yeah Yeah sometimes
Yeah well
How old are you
You're my age isn't it
28
Yeah so we're still
At our peak of testosterone
How old are you
104
104
How old are you
29
29
Yeah
Hey
Can we fire the question
On him the 50 quid
Or the
Oh yes
Alright
Oh
Very excited
Mate
Touche today
Touche
Okay
I nearly did it
So would you rather
Right
Every morning
When you wake up
You get 50 quid
Or
Every morning
When you wake up
You get a blowjob
No questions asked
You don't have to do anything
You just get to lay back and enjoy it
Who's giving me the blowjob
So the caveat was
Dream woman
Your dream woman
Comes into your room
She either gives you a blowjob
Or she gives you 50 pound.
And it's fire ahead.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And also like,
I know you're in a relationship,
but for some reason,
your girlfriend's just fine with it.
Oh yeah.
It's a part of the thing.
I'll show her just this clip.
Like baby,
so we're out.
I'm just letting you know,
if this potential happens.
So what are you taking? I'll probably take the, sweet. I'm just letting you know, if this potential happens. So what are you taking?
I'll probably take the blowjob.
Yes!
It's £18,000 a year, though.
How much?
£18,000 a year.
Tax-free.
Every morning.
But as well is, do I have...
Because it might be a morning I'm just not in the mood.
No, see?
Oh, no, she's still...
Bing bong!
It's you either have the blow job forever or the money
forever you can't go today and if i have 50 pounds can i still get blow jobs yeah oh i'll take the
50 pound thing because i can still get blow job i would want to say yes fuck off adam
right answer there you go i don't think you ever wait i've i've never like been receiving a blow
job and being like i wish this wasn't happening no no no but have you never been in the mood for
like for whatever reason you might have had a shit day or whatever and you're not in the mood to have sex
or you're you always in the mood in the morning though are you always ready to go in the morning
yeah every morning yeah every morning yeah hungover feeling it mostly hungover so you get
you get covid right you're like you literally and then you're like oh god it's really heavy on my
chest and fucking i should have taken it more serious.
Coronavirus.
Bing bong.
Here comes fucking dream girl.
Like,
don't give a shit.
You said a blowjob.
But then,
I see,
no,
I don't know if I'm in the other way.
Who's your dream girl,
Jamali?
Like celebrity or actress or?
Do you know what?
I've gone through so many phases.
Who's your current phase?
Who's your current phase?
I don't know.
Do you know what?
I'm so...
I don't really know pop culture.
Yeah.
You don't have to.
It could be like...
No, no, no, no.
But I understand what you're saying,
but I don't know...
The Queen, circa 1953.
I don't really know pop culture enough
to throw a name of reference,
to be honest with you.
Or Cat Deely.
Or Misty from Pokemon.
They were my two.
I'd say was that a question for Misty?
Was that one with the big lips?
No, she's Ash's boy, Ash's mate.
Like the-
I think she's like 14, mate.
The water trainer.
Yeah, she was then.
Pokemon's old now, like you're not even asleep.
You invest early.
In fact, I see potential.
She was also a cartoon.
What?
She was also a cartoon.
Oh, there's nothing wrong with that.
You have imagination, you fucking idiot.
Who's like the...
Like Margot Robbie.
Well, for people my age, Helen Mirren.
But who's the...
Banging.
Who's like the big babes right now, though?
Like, I don't know what's the...
Margot Robbie.
Who?
Margot Robbie.
Nah, she's about 33, though, isn't she?
Yeah.
Why not that?
Is that too young
or too old no i'm just saying surely there's like hotter hotter younger stop being so ageist
oh you're disgusting at times you know i don't i don't know any like younger ones really like
margot robbie's mad she's okay i can't believe anyone can look at a picture of margot robbie and
go no no no no these are different there's a picture of Margaret Robbie and go, No, no, no, no. See, these are different.
There's a real difference, though, yeah.
And this is, I think, of preference, right?
I can appreciate she's beautiful, but I don't know if she's like...
No, she's not.
Do you see what I'm saying?
There's a difference.
Wolf of Wall Street did her the world of good.
There's women that are not...
Okay, you know you go Sweden, you go,
Wow, they're beautiful women, but they're very clinical.
There's no, you know.
You like them a little bit.
There's an edge.
Yeah.
Okay, I summed up like this.
I like a late afternoon to an early evening stripper.
I think that's the best time.
You know what I'm saying though?
Like a late afternoon To an early evening
You're not bothered about
Saturday night headliners
No no no no no
So it's like
It's not a cheap lap dance
But it's affordable
And I think that's the peak
Yeah
You want the one
That's had to sort out
Child care to get it to itself
Yeah yeah yeah yeah
Dan likes them to look like
His porn searches are not
Like classical
He's sort of on the same vibe
You like to look like
They might not have
brushed their teeth
or something
you know
genuinely
I'd like to find my
porn on like
Facebook marketplace
I'm like
I want some realism
yeah yeah yeah
we've got a fucking
cabinet to sell
and look at Jill's tits
I think there is
something attractive
about realness
and reality
because I think
some of these
you know
sort of women that
are sort of look fake it's kind of like but i'm never going to see that in reality yes that's
what i'm about and i think there's a difference between you know beautiful this is like attainable
no it's not attainable it's that thing of like because like beautiful and sexy yes beautiful
and sexy two different things Also the supermodels
Are aesthetically pleasing
But Scarlett Johansson
Is stunning
She's got an amazing figure
And she's incredibly talented
Like who's that
Like there's more
There's more going on
Who's that
Who's the Latino actress
Eva Mendes
Eva Mendes
She was my first
She was my first love
That was a valid point
What happened
What was the point
He's just ripping the shit out of me.
What did you say?
For being a nonce.
It was like you were talking about someone you're in love with.
He went, yeah, so, you know, all these supermodels are amazing,
but Scarlett Johansson is beautiful and she's really talented.
Yeah, I was a bit shout out.
Yeah.
Margot Robbie.
Margot Robbie is attractive, but she's a bit rough.
She looks like you could see her in the fucking Runcorn Asda with trackies on. But she's a bit rough She looks like
You could see her
In the fucking
Runcorn Asda
With trackies on
She's got a bit
Scally about her
I just think
She's very clinical
She's very
You go like
Oh yeah
Do you like Eva Mendes
Then yeah
Yeah
She was my first
I think Eva Mendes
Is like
You look at Eva
And go god
Like she's not
Maybe as like
What you would
You know
If you had a scientific
Graft of what pretty is in terms of the symmetrical face.
Sexy, sexy.
Blah, blah, blah.
Not having beauty spots, but she's sexy.
My first one.
That's the point I'm making.
She's a lesbian, actually.
Is the girl from SWAT.
Have you seen the film SWAT?
No, no.
With Colin Farrell.
Have you seen it?
That classic.
It's not Colin Farrell.
It is Colin Farrell?
Yeah.
She's not even a lesbian.
What's her name? Lena Esco. Let's see Colin Farrell. It is Colin Farrell? Yeah. She's not even a lesbian. What's her name?
Lena Esco.
Let's see.
That doesn't sound right.
Do you know what?
My absolute favourite,
Bobby Mare.
She got like a bowl of lead?
No.
Is it Stephanie Sigmund?
No, she's like
Colombian or something.
Are we doing Wank Bank now?
Lena Esco sounds
very South American,
doesn't it?
No, it's not here.
Oh, God.
This is fire, this bit.
As we google fucking
it is
I know what you mean
get the fuck out
it's not
Leonardo
well you don't know
what it is
how you doing mate
you alright
yeah bro
talk amongst yourself
mate this one
has hit the height
like all episode
and then we've just
slightly gone off the rails
at the end
as Adam Rodriguez
oh yeah yeah yeah
she's in Fast and the Furious
what?
Fast and Furious
anyway
she seemed like she would be
in SWAT though
to be fair
can you pop her up
Carl on the video
just so people get the satisfaction
of knowing
yeah
she's attractive
yeah
I'm in love with her
she'd smash it out of the air as well
yeah
she'd bat it
like you wouldn't get it back
yeah
should we call that a
pod because that has
been.
Let's call this a
podcast.
It's been a beauty.
Jamali that has been
that has been
phenomenal.
Okay.
I've loved that.
It's been very very
good.
Have you had any
shit ones though?
Yeah we've had a
couple.
Okay yeah we'll tell
you.
We'll tell you once
that camera goes off
and that button goes
green.
If you really enjoy
this stuff,
there's an extra episode every single week on patreon.com
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We've got new merch coming soon.
Go and check Jamali out everywhere.
It's Jamali Maddox.
J-A-M-A-L-I-M-A-D-D-I-X.
Did I nail that?
Yep.
And oh, I've got a podcast coming out
where I'm recording it with my friend in prison.
Okay.
What?
He's in prison and I'm going to record a podcast.
So that's going to come out.
Boring.
Yeah.
Boring.
That's going to be this year.
That's going to be amazing what you're calling it.
Do you know?
No, we ain't worked out the name yet,
but it's going to be out this year.
Call it reverse charge.
I don't pitch me.
Oh, I like that.
That's actually really good.
That's not a bad one.
Thank you.
Well, that makes up for the Muslim racism.
Bye, Felicia.
Bye, Felicia.