Heart Starts Pounding: Horrors, Hauntings, and Mysteries - 60: 8 Brutal Execution Methods from Ancient Times

Episode Date: March 28, 2024

The waist chop, slow slicing, being thrown to the beasts, and more. Today, we're traveling back in time to check out 8 of the most brutal execution methods from ancient times TW: Suicide, torture Subscribe on Patreon for bonus content and to become a member of our Rogue Detecting Society. Patrons have access to ad-free listening and bonus content. And members of our High Council on Patreon have access to our after show called Footnotes. Apple subscriptions are now live! Get access to ad-free episodes and bonus episodes when you subscribe on Apple Subscriptions. Follow on Tik Tok and Instagram for a daily dose of horror. We have a monthly newsletter now! Be sure to sign up for updates and more. This episode is brought to you by Factor meals.  Head to factormeals.com/hsp50 and use code hsp50 to get 50% off. Heart Starts Pounding is written and produced by Kaelyn Moore

It's that feeling. When the energy in the room shifts. When the air gets sucked out of a moment. And everything starts to feel wrong. It's the instinct between fight or flight. When your brain is trying to make sense of what it's seeing. It's when your heart starts pounding. Welcome to Heart Starts Pounding, a podcast of horrors, hauntings, and mysteries. I'm your host,

Kaylyn Moore. Gather round, my darkly curious friends, because today we are taking quite the dark journey. Capital Punishment has come up a few times in Heart Starts Pounding episodes. In the episode about Harvard's dirty secrets, the professor who killed the businessman on campus was hanged for his crimes, and the upper echelon of Boston all got handwritten invitations to witness his execution.

In the episode about the blunt family bombings, the suspect tried to sell tickets to his own execution on eBay, only for the sale to be shut down and his sentence commuted. And in the ritualistic human sacrifice episode, well, people were sentenced to be ritually sacrificed. Whether obvious or not, capital punishment has been somewhat of a running theme. So I wanted to take some time today to look back on eight different methods of execution from the ancient world. We'll hear about slow slicing, hemlock poisoning, the brazen bull, and more. I will say there were some things in the

research for this episode that surprised and horrified me. You may learn a few interesting things you didn't know before in this one. But before we get started, have you listened to this month's bonus episode on the strange experiences people have had while in comas? This month our Rogue Detecting Society on Patreon submitted different ideas for a bonus episode and our high council tier voted and this episode was wild to do. I talk about ghostly encounters those in comas have had and how some people awake from comas

with new skills. You'll definitely want to check it out. You can listen on Patreon and on Apple Podcast subscriptions. Okay, we're going gonna start by taking a trip back to ancient China to hear about something called the Five Punishments, a form of torture that I don't think anyone would even wish upon their own enemies.

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head to factormeals.com slash hsp50 and use code HSP50 to get 50% off. That's code HSP50 at factormeals.com slash HSP 50 to get 50% off. Our first story starts more than 2,000 years ago during a warring period in China's history in the Qin dynasty. At that point China had been using a brutal form of punishment known as the five punishments for 2,000 years. And to fully understand just how intense it was, we can look to a man named Li Se. Li Se is considered one of the most important figures

in Chinese history, but he's also known as one of the most brutal. He served as chancellor under two different rulers from 246 to 208 BC and as Chancellor he feared the spread of knowledge amongst civilians that could fight against the Qin dynasty. To combat this he advocated for book burning and convinced the Emperor to have scholars in other states killed. Lisa thought anyone who discussed banned texts or used history

to criticize the present should be put to death. Most of the history records and literature, as well as important Confucian texts of the time, were destroyed because of him. One day, Confucian scholars banned together to protest the book burning. It was a last ditch effort to save their culture and history. Lisa looked out of his window to see men in monk garments cursing his name and taking to the street. He didn't take kindly to those who spoke ill of him. It said that Lisa responded by having a giant pit dug on the outskirts of the city.

Each of the Confucian scholars was sentenced to be thrown into it and buried alive while a pile of their books burned beside them. It's said their screams could be heard coming from under the dirt where they were buried until one by one, they all went silent. But Lisa wouldn't have power forever. Eventually, he was betrayed by one of his closest confidants and he was sentenced to death for treason.

The manner would be something fitting for a man who ordered the executions of hundreds, maybe even thousands. He would suffer the five punishments. The five punishments were exactly what they sound like. Five different types of cruel and unusual punishments for different types of crimes. Sometimes they were mixed and matched, and sometimes, like in the case of Lisa, someone was sentenced to suffer all five.

Five was regarded as the most mysterious and powerful number, so it was important that there be five distinct types of punishment. They were mua, tattooing the criminal's face or other visible parts of their body. The tattoos were usually words to describe their misdemeanors People were forever marked by their petty crimes The next one was I should say quite the jump from a tattoo It was known as Yi or cutting off the offenders nose Next was Yueh foot am amputation. Whichever foot was removed signaled the severity

of the crime, right foot for serious crimes, left for lighter offenses. We actually know about this punishment because in 1999, Chinese archeologists unearthed a female skeleton with her right foot missing, a victim of Yueh. The missing right foot meant she was a serious offender, but archaeologists could also tell that she lived around five years after the amputation, which suggested she was cared for afterwards and that the punishment was not intended to cause

death. Next was Gong or castration. For men, it was exactly what you're thinking. But for women, this sometimes meant pounding on the abdomen with a stick to attempt to damage the womb. This punishment was typically used for infidelity and promiscuity. And then the last one was Dapi, death. This punishment took a few different and creative forms. Strangulation, decapitation, boiling alive, tying each limb to a different horse and ripping the body apart amongst others. One by one, Lisa suffered through each punishment. His nose was carved off, then his legs. Next, he was castrated, all without any form of anesthetic. And finally, Lisa was given his last form of punishment. Which brings us to our first form of execution, the Waste Chop. He was sentenced for it to

occur in the public marketplace for all to see. Waste chop was the act of cutting someone in half in a way that maximized the amount of time it would take for them to die from the wound. The accused would be cut in half at the waist but below any important organs, resulting in a slower and more painful death. There was no regard for how cruel or unusual a punishment was at the time. Actually, the more cruel and unusual, the better. And this form of punishment was used for a longer period of time than you would imagine. There's a legend of a man named Yu Hongtu,

who was executed by Waste Shop. It was said that he was able to write out the Chinese character for cruel in his own blood seven times before dying. It was after this that the Waste Chop was retired as a form of capital punishment, but that wasn't until 1734. But they weren't done punishing Li Se. Next, as was sometime common in ancient China, his entire family was rounded up. Everyone, brothers, their wives, parents, cousins, anyone with any relation to Li Se, watched as officials came to their front doors and dragged them from their homes into a public square. They were to be executed as well, by a decree known as the Nine Familial Exterminations.

This meant that anyone related to Lisa by nine degrees would be executed. And their method of capital punishment? Well, that brings us to our second method, something known as slow slicing, or death by a thousand cuts. This was when the subject would have small pieces of their body cut off of them until they died. It could take up to 3,000 cuts if they were small enough, if the knife went layer by layer through your skin, then your tendons and then your muscles

down to the bone. This would take days to complete. So each of Lisa's family members had small parts of their body slowly sliced off until they eventually died. So that's a fun fact for you, actually. When people use the phrase, death by a thousand cuts or, I don't know, saying it, they're actually referring to an ancient Chinese execution method. How morbid. Familial exterminations, by the way, didn't always end at just 9 degrees. The most egregious form of familial exterminations was done to a man named Phong Jaru, who was sentenced to die by slow slicing in 1402.

Phong was sentenced to death as well as extermination of 10 degrees of kinship. This meant that 10 groups of people with connections to Phong were to be executed via slow slicing. The groups were Phong's grandparents, his children over a certain age, and their spouses, any grandchildren he had over a certain age and their spouses, his siblings and their spouses, his aunts and uncles, his first, second, and third cousins, his wife, and then all of his pupils. It's estimated that 873 people were sliced up over a thousand times because of Fang's treason.

And it might be worth noting here why some of these punishments were so brutal, a little bit of historical context. So it wasn't just violence for violence's sake. It was violence so one day China could know peace. China was in a time known as the Warring Period and there had been brutal battles for 200 years between the different Warring Kingdoms. There had never been one China, a united nation of China.

To some extent, the brutality was justified to create peace. There was a real fear of slipping back into an endless war. Does it really justify it? Probably not, but this was at least how they tried to justify it. Unifying China and maintaining that unity was more important than anything else. containing that unity was more important than anything else. This kind of excruciating punishment did fall out of favor over time, however. And we have evidence that the first time

corporal punishment was outlawed was due to an unlikely hero who arose about 30 years after Li Sa's death, a teen girl. So 30 years after Li Sa's death, Emperor teen girl. So 30 years after Li Sa's death, Emperor Wen decided that corporal punishments were just too harsh. He changed tattooing and cutting off the nose for a more mild punishment, hard labor or just flogging.

And the reason he rid the empire of corporal punishment was because of a young girl named Chenyu Yi. Chunyu Yi was devastated in 176 BC when her father was accused of medical malpractice. He was a famous doctor in the area and because of that he was busy and highly sought after. He didn't have time to treat every family in the community which resulted in some really angry residents accusing him of neglect and malpractice. As a result, he was sentenced to prison where he had to await the ruling on which of the five punishments he would suffer.

This caused his five daughters so much distress, especially Chen Yuyi. She saw how much good her father had done for their community, and so she wrote a passionate letter to Emperor Wen, begging him to not take her father's hand or foot. She even offered to be sentenced to hard labor so that her father could go free.

Emperor Wen was already not a huge fan of corporal punishment. It permanently marked people for one wrongdoing, and so many people died from corporal punishment. It was almost as if every crime carried a death sentence. Remember, they didn't have antibiotics back then. Getting your foot removed was a lethal sentence. This letter was his last straw and he did away with the punishments. He also changed cruel death sentences, like being ripped apart by horses, to hangings

or beheadings, which was found to be less cruel while still being effective. This change in punishments was said to revitalize the population and bring about a period of great productivity. Turns out, when people don't constantly fear being cut into a million pieces, they do better work and care about their community more. Okay, we're going to take a quick break and when we get back, we're going to start to explore some of ancient Greece's forms of execution. Outside of Jesus Christ, the execution of the philosopher Socrates is probably the most

talked about execution from the Old World. In 399 BC, it was decided that Socrates' ideas were corrupting society and that he should be sentenced to die. And this is our third form of execution we'll explore. Famously, Socrates drank poisonous hemlock while he was surrounded by his friends. But you may be surprised to learn that hemlock was not often given as a sentence to people in ancient Greece. No, people drank hemlock when they wanted to die before their execution date, when they wanted to forego worse forms

of execution for something a little less painful. Tumlok is officially described as a herbaceous plant that can grow anywhere from 3 to 5 feet tall, but really it looks like a tall vertical growing fern covered in small white flowers. The stem is sometimes splotched with purple or red, hinting at its poisonous nature. Every part of the plant is poisonous. The stems, the seeds, the roots. And if it's ingested, it will disrupt your central nervous system in a way that makes you stop breathing. That won't happen right away, though. At first, you'll just feel drunk. Maybe you'll even enjoy the feeling, so you'll take a little more. But sometime, within the next three days, your body will go numb.

You'll become paralyzed, and eventually, you'll take your last breath. Legend has it, Hemlock grew at the sight of Jesus' crucifixion, and when his blood dripped down onto the plant, it turned it toxic for the rest of eternity. But if we look at the case of Jesus' crucifixion, and when his blood dripped down onto the plant, it turned it toxic for the rest of eternity. But if we look at the case of Socrates, we know it was poisonous well before then. The ancient Greeks figured out how to turn hemlock into a tea, but it was so expensive only the wealthy could afford it. So Socrates, who was famous for saying things like, he is richest who is content

with the least, for content is the wealth of nature, got his rich friends to buy him hemlock and then invited them to his prison chamber to sit with him while he drank it. Slowly the poison took over his body, but he was lucid throughout the poisoning and able to describe what it felt like to his friends. First, it caused numbness in his limbs until he lost use of them. The poison slowly crept towards his heart, paralyzing it as well. It wasn't particularly painful, and it's said that Socrates' last words were just a reminder to one of his friends to repay a debt that he had. He was thinking

out loud. In the ancient world, though, where people were dying of horrible diseases and infections all the time, where wars were brutal and often, drinking hemlock was a relatively chill way to die. But that's not what the Athenians typically chose. That leads me to our fourth form of execution. One of the most common forms of the death penalty was death by tympanon. A tympanon was a club-shaped board. And there's two ways this style of execution could have gone. One is that the person was simply beaten to death with the club, and the other was more similar to crucifixion, a method popular in ancient Rome. This version saw a person attached to the board by their hands and feet and then left outside in the elements until they died of thirst.

Another form of execution popular at that time was simply throwing someone down a large chasm to their death. This method was easy, fast, and it was cheap. You didn't even have to buy a board to attach someone to it. So the Greeks loved it. It seems though, eventually,

there was a little moral panic about how cruel this form of death was, because eventually the person would just be killed first and then thrown down into the chasm. Though I can't imagine that was any better. Both methods are hypothesized to have ended around the 4th century BC. I will say here though that there's a reason these types of executions don't seem as brutal as those in ancient China. The Greeks thought that killing a person under any circumstance caused

religious pollution. An executioner just doing their job would be tainted by the act of execution. So as a society, they rathered that someone just die of exposure or drink hemlock themselves or simply be exiled rather than risk polluting themselves. In ancient Greece, it was also common, if not expected, that those on death row would escape into exile and live out the rest of their days separated from the community. It was actually really common to just let prisoners escape so that they didn't have to deal with killing them. But that wasn't the case for Phalaris, the sixth century Greek tyrant who implemented a form of death so depraved,

it feels like a myth. Phalaris's execution manner of choice was something known as the Brazen Bull. Maybe you've heard of it, though you definitely have not seen an original. None remain. All we have are drawings of what this form of execution could have looked like.

During his reign, Valerius had a sculptor make him a life-sized bronze bull statue that had a small door on its side, big enough for a person to get in and out of. He would then have an enemy shoved inside the hollow bull through the door, and an executioner would light a fire underneath the bull, heating up the bronze and basically turning

the inside of the statue into an oven. Apparently, the acoustics of the bowl made it so the screams coming from the person cooking inside sounded just like a bowl mooing. The Brazen Bowl was maybe another case of a creator being killed by their own invention. As the legend goes, Valerius was eventually

overthrown by Telemachus, who ordered him to be cooked inside of his own brazen bowl. And the legend also says that this method made it all the way to ancient Rome. Saint Eustace is said to have been forced into the brazen bull with his wife and children after his first form of execution failed. Emperor Hadrian threw Eustace and his family to a pack of lions when Eustace refused to make a sacrifice to pagan gods, but the lions bowed at the family's feet. So instead, he was slow-roasted inside of the bull. The Romans were no stranger to cruel and unusual punishments. They didn't believe that killing led to moral pollution.

In fact, they believed public executions made people behave better. And just like how no brazen bulls have survived in today's world, one of the most infamous forms of execution in ancient Rome also has no physical evidence of its existence either. We're just left with writings, illustrations, and our own imaginations to understand how gruesome it was. It was a type of execution known as poena cule, which roughly translates to penalty of the sacked.

It was a punishment reserved for those who killed their parents or close family members. Though that type of crime was rare, it was judged especially harshly. Killing someone who gave you life was proof of social corruption. It was said that the blood of the person who killed a parent was so tainted

that it would make any animal who feasted upon their corpse even more savage. And there was a ritual associated with executing these kinds of criminals. First, a wolfskin bag was tied over the offender's head and they were publicly whipped with red rods. Next, wooden clogs would be placed on their feet, and they were shoved into the coulis, or large sack. Live animals were then thrown into the sack with them, snakes when they were available, and sometimes chickens, cats, monkeys, or dogs.

The offender was then carted to a running stream, and the sack was thrown in. Usually, the sack was tied so tight that the person didn't actually die from drowning. They would die from asphyxiation, much longer after they would have died from drowning. Or at least that was the plan. There were stories of the bag breaking and everything inside spilling out into the river. When that happened, the people would be captured

and killed in another way, but the animals would be let free. This method of execution was outlawed in the 9th century. However, it did make a comeback in medieval Germany because, well, you know, the medieval times. More after the break. Our final form of execution you may be familiar with. Though it occurred thousands of years ago, it's remained in the cultural zeitgeist, most likely for its brutality. Here, imagine this. You're sitting in a 250,000 seat arena in ancient Rome. It's a beautiful, sunny day,

and a huge portion of the city is in this arena with you, cheering and shouting. Everyone you know is here to watch the Gladiator Games, the Super Bowl Sunday of ancient Roman times. You've just finished watching the chariot races, a relatively family-friendly race where two chariots pulled by horses race around the arena to see who's faster. But now, it's halftime, and the mood starts changing. The arena is cleared of the chariots and a door off to the side opens. A group of terrified, barely dressed men and women exit out into the screaming arena

and the crowd goes wild. Not with excitement, but with bloodlust. Not with excitement, but with bloodlust. These men and women have been rounded up by Roman officials. They're a mix of captured soldiers, criminals, and other types of offenders. And they've all been sentenced to die for your entertainment. Just as they all file into the arena, a trap door opens. And you watch as all of the people below cower. Just as they all file into the arena, a trap door opens. And you watch as all of the people below cower. They can see what's under the door, but you can't make out what it is through the shadows.

The crowd gets quiet in anticipation. And then, slowly, a form materializes in the doorway. Then, slowly, a thorn materializes in the doorway. It's big, hulking, and covered in fur. A lion emerges, followed by three more, and the crowd goes wild again. The lions look sluggish and tired at first. They've been crammed in cages for some time, and they need to stretch and adjust to the sunlight.

Also, they haven't eaten in days. They've been intentionally deprived of food for this moment. The prisoners and soldiers below all turn and run back towards the door. They know what's coming. In fact, some of them were instructed by lion tamers how to behave so the lions would eat them quickly and their deaths

wouldn't be slow and prolonged. The prisoners have no weapons, no way to fight back, and these lions have been fed a diet of human flesh since they were captured, specifically to prepare them for these executions. They're ready to eat these people, and all at once the lions pounce on the prisoners, devouring them bit by bit. For some, it's a quick death. For others, the lions take their time. But no one survives this massacre. And the worst part is, the crowd loves it.

This public display of punishment has now become part of the games for them, and they expect it. And as with anything, over time they grow bored with the same ritual. So the game masters start inventing new ways for the animals to kill the prisoners. And those new ways include the animals to kill the prisoners. And those new ways include the following.

Structures were built in the arena to give prisoners a place to escape to. They could climb up a platform, giving them the hope that they were out of harm's way, only for the structure to collapse right as the hungry pack of lions surrounded it. And animal tamers would sometimes train the animals to reenact death scenes from famous myths and legends. This included spending months teaching an eagle how to properly remove a man's organs while he writhed on the ground. Betting was also highly encouraged.

Sometimes prisoners were wheeled out into the arena attached to various objects, sometimes tied to a wheel, sometimes nailed to a board, and viewers could place bets on who would be devoured first. The deaths were so horrible and so violent that prisoners often looked for ways to end the suffering before they even had to go out.

One man shoved a bathroom sponge down his throat right before he was set to face the lions, suffocating himself. Another man who was being carried into the arena on a cart because he refused to walk in, stuck his head in between the spokes of the cart's wheels to snap his neck. His death was far faster than what awaited him. Ultimately, the increasingly violent nature of being thrown to the beasts was what led to the game's abolition. By the end, Romans were throwing many Christians into the arena as a way to discourage the

people from following their religion. However, this only empowered those across the empire to join. Rumors of Christians surviving attacks, of lions bowing at the feet of believers, spread far and wide, and only showed those who had converted what the power of Christianity could do. When Christianity became the official religion of the Roman Empire, many of the Christians who braved the games were considered martyrs, and the games were swiftly banned. were considered martyrs and the games were swiftly banned. Researching this episode, I couldn't help but feel like if I were alive in the ancient world I would have been on my best behavior, just out of fear that someone would throw

me to a pack of lions or slowly slice off pieces of my flesh until I died. You could have told me to do literally anything and I would have done it just to not die a horribly painful death. But I do want to add one final interesting fact to this episode. So I intentionally said that the Brazen Bull was so brutal that it almost didn't sound real. That's because it's highly likely that the Brazen Bull is a myth. You would think that with all the ancient Greek statues we've recovered, we would have found a single Brazen Bull, but no, we never have. It could have been

a myth conceived of at the time to get people to behave, or it could have been invented over the years because of human nature. We like to look back at history and point our fingers and say what the hell were they thinking. We like to believe that we're so enlightened now and we would never do the things those brutes did back then. But not every horrible thing they did back then was true. And the brazen bull might just have been a way to accuse Phalaris of being the most monstrous leader in all of Greek history. But maybe we'll never know.

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