Hey Riddle Riddle - #353: Rope Bowls w/ Tony Hale

Episode Date: April 23, 2025

Tony Hale?! We talk with one of our favorite actors about Veep, Arrested Development and Toy Story....and oh yeah I guess we do a bunch of riddles of well. Also make sure to check out The Extraordinarians, Tony's new podcast with Kristen Schaal and Matt Oberg on Apple Podcast and YouTube!Starring:Adal RifaiJohn Patrick CoanErin KeifGuest: Tony HaleEditing by: Casey ToneyTheme by: Arne ParrottLogo by: Emily Kardamis & Emmaline MorrisWant more? Get Weekly Bonus Eps on Patreon!JPC's Guided Meditations Volume 1, available now at our Patreon digital store!Want merch? Visit our Dashery Store!Want to mail us something? Hey Riddle Riddle 6351 W Montrose Ave #267Chicago, IL, 60634Want to leave us a voicemail? Call (805) RIDDLE-1 or (805-743-3531)Want to advertise on the show? Check out Hey Riddle Riddle via Gumball.fmSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a HeadGum Podcast. for value. Adol GBC, look. My garden. The riddles are coming in so nicely. Wow, okay. Are those, are those quizzicals? Yeah, they're really beautiful, aren'thmm? I never knew you had such a Riddle thumb I know I mean I don't know I tried I planted them But I don't know what to do are they're poisonous right? Most yes most riddles are poisonous Erin. What are you? Oh JPC you started eating that so fast I

Wanted to get to the dirt underneath, are you watering them with answers? Yeah, and a good attitude because, you know, we run out of riddles on the show. There's really only like a hundred riddles in the world. Yeah. So I thought, why not grow them? From farm to brain or is that? That's something. Yeah, that's something.

That tracks. Well, Erin yeah that's something that tracks well Aaron it's fantastic that you're actually growing organic riddles because one we're running out of riddles and two we actually have a very special guest today oh yeah kind of the perfect person to try out some organic riddles on yeah tell me well Aaron I don't know if you've ever seen shows like Veep or Arrested Development or if you are familiar with the Toy Story franchise. Okay, some of my favorite things on the planet. What's this going to be?

This is... Well, Erin, I don't know if you're familiar with the brand new Headgum podcast that just came out today, which I don't know how you could be because it just came out today. Extraordinarians? Oh, yeah. Did I get that right? Extraordinarians? Yeah. Yeah, okay. Oh, that's why Tony Hale's here.

Okay, perfect. Oh, you know Tony. Okay, oh, you're sitting at your table. He's sitting at your kitchen table? Okay. Okay, perfect. Incredible. And I forgot that you two have actually already met. So, great.

So that's, yeah, so that's a surprise. Yeah, okay, never mind. I love that extraordinary was the thing that you got. That's the best. Oh, yeah, Tony Hale. Oh, okay, nevermind. I love that extraordinary was the thing that you got. That's the best. Oh yeah, Tony Hale. Oh yeah, of course, Tony Hale. Tony, thank you so much for doing this.

Oh, thank you for having me. I like to see everybody's Zoom background. You really get a taste of the personalities. And I will say today, we are shining through in our personality. JPC's sort of a horrible dark void. Adol looks like he's in a cabin that smells like pine. I look like I'm in a bunker.

It does look like a podcast bunker. Oh, it does. Yeah. Thank you. Actually, you have like a grandma's kitchen dishcloth fabric behind you. It's funny because if I have my curtains open a little bit because I have my dog right down here. Oh wait, sorry, I meant Erin. Oh yeah. I was talking to the wrong one, my bad.

JPC, sorry, I got the name screen. You just look like you're in the black hole. The boy. With like subtle little white lines in it as well. Tony, first of all, welcome to the Head Gum family. We're so excited to have you. Aw, thank you. Is there any kind of initiation you need to know about?

Blood packs. We've been here for seven years. Oh, wow. So we know our way around the pack. This is like a White Lotus scenario. All right. Jake and Amir make us sort of exchange our blood. It's a whole thing.

Oh, god. It's nice. I thought maybe just exchange gum or something, but blood, wow. Okay. You can put the blood in whatever you want. I guess if you wanna pass it with gum, hey, it's weirder, but you know what? We don't judge, that's another thing.

Oh, that's nice. That's the most important thing. How's it been stepping into the podcast world? How does it feel? Good, good. I'm doing it with my friends, Kristen Schaal, I'm sure you guys know, Matt Oberg, and it's really fun.

We interview extraordinary people doing extraordinary things that we would never do. This one guy was slack-lined between two hot air balloons, and we just were kind of fascinated with that. Another girl won the national pun competition. Another one won the most summer salts after like on a trampoline, all this kind of stuff. So we're just kind of fascinated and it's really fun. And I don't know, I mean, like you guys,

it's like you have a chance to get together with your buddies and shoot the shit, which is really fun. That's the secret sauce. Yeah. That hot air balloon thing is the craziest thing I have ever heard. I don't, it really, it's one of those, what's that? What's that famous, he climbed mountains,

it was a documentary, I'm just blanking. Not alone, but, oh, a lot. Moses? No, it's Moses. No, yeah. Edmund Hilleloon. But it was the guy that like free rock climbed. Oh, free solo guys.

Free solo, yes, yes, yes. And that there's a part of the brain that's not there, you know, like that fear section is taken out. And I think this guy had a little bit of that. And I was just, I was like, how do you, I can't even get on a ladder without thinking about death. You know, and he's just, I think he even responded, oh, that's sad.

But it's fascinating. Yeah, I guess that is sad. But it's fascinating. Yeah, I guess that is sad. I mean, if you take it in a microcosm, it's like, yeah, for sure. I mean, he's just like, the rush that they get in, sometimes he doesn't even use like a safety harness. Yeah, he's just like, slacklining between these, you know, mountainous areas and without any kind of safety.

I mean, sometimes he is and then sometimes he's not. And you're like, what? Like you're just asking. I don't know, it's fascinating. Feet are tingling. Yeah, just, it's also those people that kind of like jump off buildings, you know, and they just kind of, it's just wild to me.

Should we try it? Yeah. So that means we should do it. Yeah. Has it, has doing the podcast made you in any way want to do any of those things? Like, or? No.

No. Tony, like this is not gonna make me love riddles even more. Oh, no, no. Oh, you're gonna hate them more, for sure, for sure. Tony, what's your secret talent? What's your... Okay, I think mine are just a little more sedate. I like making rope bowls.

Excuse me? Sorry, I've got a bit of a cold, so I apologize. But over the pandemic, I got into making rope bowls and it's something, it's kind of like, well, it's not like pottery, but you kind of, as you sew this rope together and you mold it into a bowl and then I paint them and it's really meditative, much like the guy who walks on a slackline, it's very meditative for him.

But it's really peaceful and I like my dogs and I have a daughter in college. It's like real simple stuff. I'm not like an adrenaline junkie whatsoever. I don't like roller coasters, never have, there's nothing natural about them. That kind of stuff I just don't like roller coasters, never have, there's nothing natural about them. That kind of stuff I just don't like. I thought they came from the earth. Did they not grow organically? They did. The secret of Six Flags.

You dig deep enough and you find ancient civilizations roller coasters that were there before. Yeah, Six Flags was excavated. That's horrible. They're, Erin, they're dinosaur bones that got wet, I wanna say. Yeah. And now we just slide on them? That makes sense.

Golly, today's the day we find all this out. The Rote Bowls thing, were you familiar with the concept of Rote Bowls like before you started doing them or what got you into it? Cause that feels like such a very specific- Well, I'm looking for a picture to show you. Yeah.

Just you wait. And Tony, this year, I want to say the Rope Bowl is Clemson in Alabama. That's funny. Well, I will make, I have made Rope Bowls for like football teams, not teams, but people that are fans of certain footballs. Okay, so like these are some Rope Bowls I made. Okay. Oh my gosh, those are beautiful.

Aren't they nice? That's incredible. How do I how do I buy one of these? Oh, I will make you one. You don't have to buy. I don't buy the way when money's involved. It's like the composition of that photo is fantastic. That looks like I'm looking at like a West Elm catalog. Yeah, spent me a little time. figure out that shot. Thank you. It's like Tony Hale is like, I don't really have any talents. And then he shows the perfectly framed picture. I know. That's such a COVID thing though.

It's like sourdough bread making interlople is a straight line. I was on a show, I did the show in Italy for six months and I was, you know, they all kind of went out. I was kind of the old guy that just liked to stay at home. I mean, anyways, it wasn't boring.

But I, so for cast gifts, I was like, I'm they all kind of went out. I was kind of the old guy that just liked to stay at home. I mean, anyways, it wasn't boring. But I, so for cast gifts, I made all these rope balls because I had so much time. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Isn't that fun? One last thing, also do some Christmas ornaments.

Oh my goodness. What the fuck? This sucks. I feel awful about myself. So this is my adrenaline. Wow. That's great. Well, uh, Rope Bulls aside, on this podcast, I guess kind of our Rope Bulls...

Oh, no, I'd like to keep talking about that if you don't mind. Rope Bulls back on the table? Uh, but okay, so the Rope Bulls, they are, are, are... You said they're painted, but they're still rope, right? So you can, you can't, you can't put like a soup. Cereal? This is for like keys and wall, this is like a catch-all versus. Yeah.

Like a basket. Oh yeah, good, good. Well also like I've given them before like on gigs and stuff and they're like, oh, it's like a hat. And I'm like, it's not a hat. I don't know why you keep saying hat. But yeah, it's a catch-all. You don't even have to put anything in it. No.

It could be just like, just a decorative situation. But you can't put liquid in it. But don't put cereal out of those bowls. Now you could if you wanted to like make it and then pour something in it to cement the inside if you wanted to. Maybe that's my next venture.

Yeah. Now, Tony, I'm very serious about, I need to get my hands on all these rooms. Let me just find out your favorite color. Ha ha ha. Zzz, zzz, zzz. OK. Well, our Rope Bowls on the show is Riddles.

And we ask every guest on the show, what is your relationship with riddles, puzzles, lateral thinking problems? I think we've even escaped rooms, we've extended out to these things. Okay, let me think. I don't know if anybody relates to this. I'm all in and I think it's such a fun idea.

Halfway through I'm like, I want a bolt. You know, it's like- One of us, one of us. An escape room is like, oh, this is so fun, let's go. And then You know, it's like, yes. One of us, one of us. Yeah, an escape room is like, oh, this is so fun, let's go. And then halfway through when it's, I'm just like, I don't, this is chaos. I'm asking for more chaos in my life.

They've made this too hard. I don't know what any of these numbers mean. You know, and those people that really like get a kick out of it, I'm just like, this is, just give me the answer. Just open the window, open the door, I wanna get out. And then riddles, it's fun. Now, a little bit of a, I think if I'm doing it by myself,

I don't like it, but if there's like, like you guys, like if it's like a team, it's like, oh, what about this? What about this? But then when you hit that wall and you're like, okay, why? Why, why, why, why? It's also that thing of like, I like puzzles, but I like colored puzzles. I don't want like all one color where it's just maddening

and I'm just like, why am I doing this to myself? I want like the fun experience of like, oh yeah, this is a bunny, let me find the color of the bunny, and then that's the other piece. You know, like it's some fun to it. There's more dopamine in that. Yeah, exactly, thank you. There are a lot of riddles.

We've been going for seven years somewhere on there. Wow, congratulations guys. Thank you so much. That's amazing. The seven year itch. What does that mean? I want a divorce. We all pack our bindles and are out of here.

Ride the rails. That's so funny because today is my wife and I's seven year anniversary as well. Whoa. That's crazy. Did you see, was this podcast discovered on your honeymoon? Yeah, kinda.

It's funny, there were so many things in my life that started around the same time. I started dating my wife, I got a dog, and this podcast started all in the same year, so it's so easy to remember, dog, seven years old, wife, seven years old, podcast, married for seven years. Wife, married, seven years old. Wait a second.

Let's rephrase that. No, it's easy, I can't forget this stuff. What are you guys talking about? Well, we've been going for about seven years and a lot of the answers to riddles, when you hear it, you go like, ah. Like it's, it is, it's fun. Like obvious at the end.

But it's, a lot of lateral thinking problems are like, it's usually shadow, egg, cloud, stuff like that. And a lot of them, there's information missing. So when you hear the answer, you're like, oh, I wasn't thinking along those lines. Like I'm missing a huge chunk of help here. So just know that riddles might be frustrating. Has it helped you in your New York Times games app

doing this podcast? We did for many years before Connections came out. There's a British game show called Only Connect that has very similar concepts to it. And people have been submitting those types of puzzles for years. So by the time Connections came out, I was like, oh, okay. I get it. This is like elementary school. Wait, so one more question. How has this podcast affected

your everyday lives like in problem-solving and what tools have you learned here that is just... It's gotta be a pass. People call our show a fever dream is sort of the feedback that we get, like a chaotic fever dream. I will say, when I see a riddle in real life, not like bridge trolls, but like, if someone tells one, I'm more likely to get it now. Cause I sort of get them. And what is that, what's that first two,

like if you said, what are the first two things you do when you hear that riddle that you would suggest to somebody else? It's like the same as like Jeopardy questions. You like look at the structure of the question. You're like, oh, how are they trying to trick me? Like, what are they trying to get at? Yeah, Connection does that too on New York Times.

Yeah, yeah. I will say I went last year to London and there's a, I guess a popular game show there called Crystal Maze and they have like a Crystal Maze experience and it's all these different challenges and there's like dexterity and skill games and all this stuff. And one of the rooms was all riddles

and I was like, oh my God. And every riddle in the room was one we'd done on the show. Oh wow. You looked like a genius. We were with a group of like people who work together and this was like a team building We were with a group of people who worked together, and this was a team building exercise. So these eight people who were in our group are like, this guy is Mensa level brilliant.

And I'm like, snake, just rattling off stuff. And they're like, this is a beautiful mind. And afterwards they're like, how'd you do that? And I go, this is gonna sound fake, but I do a RiddlePodcast. Ha ha ha. I will say, my experience with it is I read a lot, and a lot of times, and I read a lot of fantasy or sci-fi.

What's that like? It's wonderful. But when I read fantasy or sci-fi, a lot of times there will be, like, for whatever reason, like, riddles will come up in the context of this novel. And I almost always know it, because, like, there are no new riddles. So the author is just changing some words

and borrowing an old riddle as a concept. But it makes me feel so much smarter than the characters who are like, okay, we have to figure out what this riddle is. And I was like, no, man, I got it. I just get free pages. I did this show called The Mysterious Benedict Society. And there was a lot of riddles in that. And it was, I mean, it really, the being gen,

the kids were like generated by it. It was like, oh, rather than kind of paralyzed. And I think like, I can get parallel, paralyzed. I can be like, ah, rather than being like, oh, this is cool, let's see what this is. This is so funny that some days you wake up and you literally can't do them. And some days you wake up and they all seem easy.

It truly just is like, however much water you drank that day, depends on if these riddles are gonna come natural or not. Adel, I don't wanna step on your toes, but if we wanna do some Only Connect riddles, I do have a few Only Connect that might, we could kind of use as warmups to get us in. Let's do it. You wanna do it? Yeah.

Okay, so- Guys, I'm generated. I'm not my last. This is a new one for me. So again, I'm going to give you four words or it's not always a word, but it's like a word or a short phrase or whatever. And then you have to tell me what the connection between all four of those things is. Okay, great. So here's your first one.

Snake, Macy Black, that's one. Snake is one and Macy Black is one. The Stripes, Red Floyd. Now these are all, it should be Pink Floyd, it should be White Stripes, it should be Macy Gray and White Snake. Uh-huh. These are all bands with the color scheme slightly askew?

It is the color scheme slightly askew, and you are so correct with all that, Addle, but it's, the answer is slightly different than that. Oh, they all need white added to them. Yeah. God damn, you guys are really good. Because red was white made. We normally don't get them that fast,

that was crazy, Addle. And Tony, I guess you crush it in the comedy and acting game and the rope ball game and the dog game. Do I? Can't have everything. But I, but I can solve a riddle. Damn, that was impressive. That was so fast.

The guy who's been doing it for seven years is like cocky about it. I do wanna see a scene. Aaron, Tony and JPC, the three of you are starting a band. And first things first, you're trying to come up with a name. Okay. No, I think that one's already taken.

Let me, hold on. The Beatles? You're sure? That's already taken because I just gave it. No, I mean, I think that's already... Okay, this is just brainstorming. Let's not get so bogged down on one name. Let's just like try to generate like other band names. Okay, great. Okay.

Beach Boys, Rolling Stones. Um... What if it's just... Okay. Beach Boys, Rolling Stones. What if it's just- Okay. It could be just like churches. You know how churches nowadays are just one word, like haven, rock. Yeah. Yes. Yes.

Okay, I'm writing these down, but maybe we're missing like the forest for the trees. Like we're trying to do like new unique band names. Okay. Maybe the first letter of each of our names. R-E-N. So, there you go. That worked, right?

That's something. By the way, it didn't just work. It did work for several decades. Yeah, that's a band. Yeah, it's a band name. It's already a band name. I keep hearing that. T-H-J, that's too close to T-H-C.

Yeah. Well, is it? But, I mean, yeah. Oh, actually, I just said H, but that's the podcast name. I meant to say. Let's see, let's see,, but that's the podcast name. I meant to say. Let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see. T-E-J. What about Maroon 5?

No, that's something. By the way, Jett. Jett, guys. Okay, no. J-P-C-T-T. Yeah, we could do Jett. Jett, and I, yes, that is a band name. So it is already a band name.

And a magazine. Okay. See. All right, that is a band name. So it is already a band name. And a magazine. Scene. All right, here's your next one. Filling a line in any direction. So that's your first one. Filling a line in any direction, clearing four lines at once,

having all five dice be the same, and having one card left. It's like when you say the name of the game. Yahtzee, Poker, Blackjack. Well, Eric, you're correct. But do you know what those what the four games are? No, I'm still trying to understand the question. Filling filling a line in any direction.

Bingo. Bingo. Clearing four lines at once. Tetris? Tetris. Oh, okay. Having all five dice be the same. Sorry, sorry, Tony, did you have a note for me? Wait, I thought it was, I thought it was XO.

It's Tic-Tac-Toe. Oh yeah, Tic-Tac-Toe. That works. Shit, that's right. Nope, having all five dice be the same. Yahtzee. That's Yahtzee, and then having one card left. Uno. Uno.

Mm-hmm. Whoa. That's how I got that one. But Tony, I didn't know the first three. They made no sense to me, and that way I got it was- First of all, I just think it's so sweet that you guys are really trying to not make me feel so bad. Because I hear the question, and I'm still processing the first line

of what you're asking. All right, I'm going to go slower. Okay, so the first one. I don't know if that's going to help. Okay. It might not. It'll help me. Copper wire.

Okay. Second one, silver paste. Okay. Third one, Leonard Bernstein. Oh, good. Fourth one, a train manager. Whoa. Okay, copper wire manager. Whoa.

Okay, copper wire, silver paste. Is everybody else envisioning these or is they just thinking of the, is everybody picturing it? Oh, I'm doing panicking. I'm doing Yakety Sacks in my head. I think I might know, but I wanna give, let's give people. I'm mostly refraining from yelling

these are all characters from Metal Gear Solid, I guess. Right now I'm doing the Scooby-Doo thing where they're all chasing each other through hallways. What was the last one? What was the last one? Leonard Bernstein. A train manager. Leonard Bernstein, a train manager. Those two are the most helpful.

I think the last two are the most helpful. Yeah. Okay. All conductors? Yep. Wait. No, that was Tony. What's the. All conductors? Yep. Wait. No, that was Tony. What's the musical with the train?

Train, train, train with the trolley. Trolley. Is that Leonard Bernstein? These are conductors, electrical conductors. Leonard Bernstein is like. Orchestral conductors. Bradley Cooper, right? And train conductors.

Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait, Bradley Cooper played Leonard Bernstein? Yeah, in that movie. Okay. Maestro. Maestro, yes, yes, yes, yes. Is that the answer?

The answer was Bradley Cooper. Your next one is Bullwhip. Wait, what was the answer to that one? Oh, conductors, they're all conductors. They were all different types of conductor. Copper wires. Copper wires, a conductor, train managers. This is all conductors. They were all different types of conductors. Copper wire's a conductor. Train manager's a conductor. This is not so well.

They overpay. Guys, I need that rope bowl, please. Let's ease up on Tony. You still haven't told me your favorite color. Green. Which type of green, please? Uh, hey, Tony, excuse me. Addle, what's going on?

That felt like, I know you. That felt like a panic call out. It is green, it is green. Honestly, Kermit Green is probably my favorite color. Okay, so a Shamrock. Yes, a Kelly Green. Yes, Kelly Green. Beautiful.

Adel has always just seen K Green and it's like Kermit Green. Yeah, it's Kermit Green. That's gotta be Kermit green. Cause Kelly Green is John Travolta's wife, right? Yes. Tony, can I ask you a question? I was actually sort of a dream come true.

Anything to distract from these riddles. Yeah, do you have a favorite Muppet? Oh damn, I love this question so much. I collected Muppets when I was a kid and Beaker was my favorite. Whoa. And actually, side note, I did this cartoon called Archibald's Next Big Thing that came from a children's book I did years and years ago.

One of the best jobs I've ever done. And I was attracted to Archibald because he looked like Beaker. And my favorite color is yellow. And so Archibald was yellow, so he was like looked like Beaker. And my favorite color is yellow. And so Archibald was yellow, so he was like a yellow Beaker. Oh my God. And I also really loved Fozzie.

Of course. And Scooter. Oh, Scooter's underrated. Classic. Scooter is underrated. I think I'm a Sweetums guy, but Beaker's probably my top five. Why am I blanking on Sweetums?

Sweetums is a- He's the big guy. He's like a full size, he's like a guy in a huge costume. Hey, wait for me. Gosh, I don't remember him at all. He's kind of like a- Was he in the 80s or was he a later Muppet? Early Muppet, he was like in the Muppet movie. He's like the size of a human

and he's always running after him. Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. I also like the shrimp guy, who's the shrimp guy? Oh Pepe the prawn. Pepe the prawn. Oh go change, okay. Yeah, he's the best. And the chefs, knowing to match the chef.

Horty, horty, horty, horty, horty, horty, horty, horty. We love the Swedish chef on the show, we do. We're big Swedish chef fans. I think the Muppets need a real comeback. I think they do too. I would love to see you, have you ever acted think the Muppets need a real comeback. I think they do too. I would love to see you, have you ever acted with a Muppet? I want you just to stop at acted.

Have you ever acted before? We get real on this show. What are you doing up there, Tony? Exactly. Have you been on Sesame Street? Roples in my bunker. I have never been on a Sesame Street, but I, on a Sesame Street, I've never been on Sesame Street,

but I would love to. Every city has one. Yeah. I think you would do very well acting with a Muppet. I'd love, I mean, doing, my friend did a, Jack McBrayer did a kid show for a little bit and I guessed it on his show. And it's just so simple and sweet and just so fun.

Well, I want you to have a scene with Beaker before you die. Okay, I do want to see a scene. You two solve mysteries maybe? I do want to see a scene. Tony, would you like to play Beaker or would you like to act with Beaker? I'll play, he doesn't say much. So I'll be Beaker.

Great. So Tony, you're gonna be your version of Beaker. So this is sort of like you were cast as Beaker, so this is Tonya. Which is pretty much Buster Bliss. Yeah. Wait a minute. Oh my God.

Uh-oh. Oh my God, oh my God, oh my God. So you're Beaker and Erin. Your favorite Muppet is Miss Piggy? Oh, I might say my favorite Muppet is Gonzo, but I'll play whomever. Oh, Gonzo. So I want you to play Gonzo. What a nose, what a nose.

What a nose. I actually don't think, I don't feel confident in my Gonzo impression, so I can be Miss Piggy, or I can be a human, whatever you need me to be. I would like you to be your version of Miss Piggy, and this is sort of like, so this is like a B movie, this is like a, just some college kids

kind of putting together their version of the Muppets, I guess, so sort of an off kilter, just left of center version of the Muppets with you as Miss Piggy and Tony as Beaker. MMM. MMM. Eh? MMM.

Oh, damn. MMM. MMM. I don't know. I don't know. Beaker, we gotta bury the body. Oh. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh. Beaker, we gotta bury the body. Beaker.

Beaker, grab the shovel, Beaker. Beaker. Slap, slap. You look at me. We killed him together. Kermit's lifeless body's at their feet. That's okay. Beaker.

He was our leader. He drew too much attention. bodies at the... That's okay. Beaker. He was our leader. He drew too much attention. Oh wait, wait, here comes Fozzie. Wake, wake, wake up. Hey. Oh shit. We killed him!

We killed him! Beaker, Beaker! Get all the ears off Beaker! Um, okay. Okay. Get all the ears up, Beaker was Sexy Fuzzy miss piggy Bingo, That's fine. I see. I see. The count is pretty sexy.

I actually did have this conversation recently about who the hottest Muppet is. And someone said that guy who throws the fish and I just about died. What's that guy's name? Lou, Lou Zealand? Yeah, Lou Zealand. Lou Zealand, yeah.

I don't know if I agree with that. Oh, actually, and also the Swedish chef threw a lot of fish, didn't he, also? Yeah, I think it's like throwing a lot of fish in that, Joe. He's the guy with the mustache and I was like, Pasquale from Chuck E. Cheese? Oh, Chuck E. Cheese. Tony, I appreciate it at some point.

At some point, Tony, I really appreciate that Beaker was almost sounded like a, hey, badda, badda, badda, badda, swing the badda away. No hater, no hater, no hater. That reminds me on, when I was on Veep, they called me a bitchy mime because I was never allowed to speak. So I could just stand behind Selena

and just make weird noises. My nonverbal got pretty good. Truly one of the best performances of all. I mean. Comes from so much time. I mean, it comes from so much pain. I mean, unbelievable. And almost true to life, no. There is something about a show like Veep where they're like, hey, so the whole vibe

is that we're gonna be making fun of you as characters, but we're actually just gonna be making fun of what you look like physically, which is the real human being is you. Dude, Timothy Simon's got it bad. Like, he played Jonah. what you look like physically, which is the real human being is you. Timothy Simon's got it bad. Like he played Jonah. They called him like, what was it, Plato on a flagpole? Yeah.

You're not even your mom's favorite Jonah, Jonah. That's my favorite. And there was one time, like the sad thing is wasn't even when it wasn't even scripted. So we would be in a scene and like, I remember Reed Scott turned to me and he goes, hey, Cow Eyes.

And I was like, sorry? Excuse me? I was like, what is that in the script, man? That's incredible. Just getting too lost in it. Hey man, I'm really sorry about Cow Eyes. I uh. Easy trigger.

I feel like just in Chicago in general, like when I first came to Chicago for improv, I would absolutely stand up Dan Bacadal's way and Dave Esquazy where I'm like, what? Easy trigger. I feel like just in Chicago in general, like when I first came to Chicago for improv, I would absolutely stand up Dan Bakadal's way and Dave Esquazy where I'm like, I don't want to be perceived by them because they're so, I can't imagine being on set with all those people and being like, everyone's a sniper and their target's on my head.

And also Dan Bakadal, the stuff that came out of his mouth, the crassness and how we treated his assistant. I mean, it was just so fluid. And also David Pesquise. If you get a chance, watch the blooper reel from Veep. I think it might have been season one or two when David Pesquise is taught, they're at the family dinner and he just goes off

and it's just magic. It's magic. He's unbelievable. Yeah, it's very fast. Tony, I was so excited to get to tell you this last time I saw you, but my favorite scene in anything is Veep when Selena finds out she's gonna get president, be president and you get a nosebleed. Yeah, I get a nosebleed. It's the funniest fucking thing.

Do you know what actually, that happened to the writer. That's how it came about. She was laughing so hard that she got a nosebleed. Oh my God. And they gave it to Gary. Holy shit. They gave it to Gary. They gave it to Gary. And we were actually really sick that day, which is wild. That's so funny. Well, you were cracked open

and then the good comedy juice poured out. That was fun. Well, thank you, editing. Tony, all this talk about behind the scenes and Veep is really actually fun and interesting, but we're gonna take a break and get back to Riddles, which I think is depressing and hard and sad. So let's take a quick break

and we'll be right back with more riddles. 1934 hate riddle, riddle, riddle behind you. You are staring at a picture of me. That's a picture of me that you're talking to. I'm behind you. You look so sweet. Oh, wait, is this an aura frame? Yep, yep, that's an aura frame. That's the one that I got you guys for Mother's Day.

Aw. Kind of a subtle hint. I love aura frames. I mean, what a clear picture. That's beautiful. It makes sense that it was named the best digital photo frame by Wirecutter and featured in 495 gift guides last year.

Yeah, Aura frame makes the perfect gift. I gave one to my mom, I gave one to my sister. They're absolutely obsessed with it. It takes about two minutes to set up the frame using the Aura app. And my favorite thing is you can share photos or videos from any device and they will instantly appear on the frame wherever it is in the world, no memory card required.

Yeah, that's kind of why I got you guys the Aura Frame because we would do a lot of like, we would meet up in real life and like you guys would give me like coffee orders and I would be like, oh no, it's JPC, like from friendship and like the podcast. Ooh yeah, actually and it sounds great. And I would take a grande latte. Yeah, so this is the big problem.

It's like I, like this isn't even, like we're all at home recording. This isn't like the context where you would order a coffee. It's like, I got you the frame with pictures of me so you'd remember that that's your friend, like a person you know. Like that's pictures of us hanging out together. Not like you guys taking a photo with a waiter.

Hmm. You know? These photos look like real prints They have meticulously calibrated high resolution displays unless you look really closely or see photos transition. You'll never know. It's a screen Oh look, there's me and my barista No, see that again. That's okay. I'm sorry. Well, that is a picture of you your barista Wait, you guys take pictures of you and your baristas Here's me holding my cup of coffee.'s like, I would say, 5'9", maybe, 162? OK, that is an exact description of that barista, but it's not of me.

A little taller, a little heavier than that. OK, now I'm getting the confusion because it seems like you guys do a lot of barista pictures. Huh. Mm-hmm. Anyway, Aura has a great deal for Mother's Day for a limited time listeners can save on the perfect gift by visiting AuraFrames.com to get $35 off plus free shipping on their best-selling Carver Mat Frame. That's AuraFrames.com.

Promo code RIDDLE. Support the show by mentioning us at checkout. Terms and conditions apply. And honestly, a message to everyone out there listening, if you want to take a picture of you and your barista, get consent. No creep shots. Say come out from the counter, take a picture with me. It's for my podcast co-hosts.

Oh, you wrote Abdul on my coffee. It's Adil. Whatever Abdul, Enjoy the coffee We're back and we're gonna be doing some let's just let's go into the we had an appetizer we had the maz sticks Let's get into a full entree. Did you say maz sticks like mozzarella sticks? Yeah That's my childhood, man. That's Applebee's. I love mozzarella sticks.

That should be an ad for Applebee's. That's my childhood. They should use that. Instead of, yeah. What is Applebee's was eaten from a small neighborhood. Oh yeah. I thought you were about to say what is Applebee's? Like you've never heard of it.

Well, this would have ended that podcast. Now, Tony, I will say, where are you from in the country? Like, Tallahassee, Florida, jealous. Here's the thing, Tony, this works perfectly because I'll tell this story very quickly. Please. I went to Florida to visit a friend. His brother came to pick me up from the airport.

Yeah. I've never met his brother before. So I get in the car, but his brother is one of the funniest people of all time, this guy named Joey Romain. Well, I'll be in charge of that. He'll come on later. So his brother picks me up from the airport, never met this guy before.

We get in the car, he's like, how was your flight? I'm like, good. He's like, yeah, Joey's excited to see you. I'm like, I'm excited to see Joey. He's like, I'm Justin. I'm like, I'm Adil, so nice to meet you. He's like, I heard a lot about you, yeah, yeah. And then at some point, we're kind of sitting in the car and he goes, are you

hungry at all, or do you want some wawa? And I'm like, Oh, this is Joey's brother. He's got to be also funny. So I go, yeah, I want wawa baby firsty, baby one wawa. And his brother goes, what? And I go, what? And he goes, do you want wawa? And I go, yes, baby firsty, baby wet Wawa.

How do I hate this? And he goes, what are you doing? I go, what are you doing? And he goes, I'm asking if you want Wawa. And I go, I'm saying baby firsty. This is a nightmare who's on first. Cause I, cause Tony, I grew up in Illinois, never heard of Wawa in my life.

Yeah, I don't even think we had a wah-wah in Tallahassee. This was in St. Petersburg? Oh, that is cool. Florida is its own, like, strange microcosm of life. I don't know if we need to say strange. I think it's... Yeah, you're right. We shouldn't put that stigma on Florida. It's a beautiful swamp.

Yeah. Do you have a Whataburger? Oh, that's in Texas, right? That's Texas. Yeah, that's a real Southern thing too. But I do think that a lot of- But some people may say that's fast food breakfast. It would not be surprising to me if there was Whataburger in Florida,

because people move to Florida from the places they're from and then they bring with them their fast food chain and they say like, this now exists in Florida. Yeah. It's a great place, Florida's a great place. It gets a bad rap. My wife is from Miami and she'll tell people she's from Florida and I'm like,

you gotta stop telling people you're from Florida because you're not, like you're from Miami, which is like way different than Florida. Yeah, well I will say that is, if I looked at it, I think Miami is more Florida and like Tallahassee is more Georgian. Cause you're right on a panhandle. Yeah, that makes sense.

And kind of Miami and Boca, those do feel Florida. Whereas Tallahassee kind of, those on the North, they kind of feel a little more Alabama, Georgia. And Tony, you said you were in Italy recently for six months. What would you say is the number one difference between Florida and Italy? In Italy? Italy, oh man.

The people just in Italy, they're so wonderful, but they just sound mad. There's a lot of like, but I say, why, why, why? You just like, are you mad? I told this story on a talk show once, but I remember the costume guy who was the wardrobe designer, I had this, it took place during the Black Plague,

and so I had this medieval kind of look, but I had this belt and I said, can you tighten this belt? And he goes, no, you have an odd shape. And I said, I'm sorry. He goes, why do you do? Cow eyes all over again. Yeah.

Cow eyes. But they're just, and like when I was like in hair and makeup, you know, they're speaking Italian but it's just this like, but it is, it is, it is. But they're just like saying, would you have a breakfast? Like it's not, you know, it's not, but it sounds a little

angry. That's so funny. Very combative. It's one of the romance languages, languages I believe but it sounds very combative. That didn't sound very romantic to me. No. Different people have different conceptions of romance.

That sounds very romantic to me. That's very true. So you and your wife have a very aggressive love life. Yeah, exactly. Dave Vasquez, I think lives in Italy six months out of the year. That's crazy. Oh yeah, he also shot Da Vinci Code. Wasn't he in Da Vinci Code?

Yes, yes, yes, yeah, yeah. Or Angels and Demons, I think. Oh yeah, yeah, he also shot Da Vinci Code. Wasn't he in Da Vinci Code? Yes, yes, yes, yeah, yeah. Or Angels and Demons, I think. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So this is gonna be a main full-on riddle. What if the riddle is just my life? What if I'm being punked and it's like, Tony Hale is the riddle, and it's just like, this is my life where all my bullies are coming in

and it's just explaining everything. It's like, oh yeah. Well, you figured it out. That makes sense that Sean did that. Woo, you solved it. It could be a nice direction for the show. We've been doing it for seven years. We've got to find some fertile ground somewhere. Yeah.

I want to ask about Sean. What did he do, what did he do? Because that's got to be, he didn't hesitate. That's a real name. that's a real name. Yeah, I didn't say his last name. Real person's last name. I can only assume Connery. So let's see here, the main riddle is,

what ring is square? What ring is square? Gosh, I immediately think of Lord of the Rings, but that's. Oh, oh, I think I know it of the Rings, but that's... Oh, oh, I think I know it. Yes. I might know it too. Oh, oh.

Well, then I think about an alarm system. Wow, okay, yeah. That or a ring light or like a ring camera. What is it called? Well, a ring light is called a ring light and a ring camera is called a ring camera. But then I was thinking of ring camera. Okay, got it.

Can it be a boxing ring? It is a boxing ring. That makes sense. Oh, golly, you guys are damn good. You gotta go lateral with it. I'd like to see a scene. JPC, you're a boxer in a movie, and Tony, you're like his,

what's the guy who like pipes him up? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. His coach? His coach before the big fight. Okay. and Tony you're like his what's the guy who like Yeah coach his coach before the big fight, okay. All right, you got this man. Come on. Let's go. Yeah. Yeah Hey, listen, you got beat up bad, dude. You got beat up bad, but this time who was that guy? That's your opponent man. That's the but that's the reason you're here That's the reason we're about to man to you two million dollars and you're about to screw us up Was he supposed to hit me while I was just peeing before the match? What the living hell man? No, he's supposed to he's supposed to hit you in the square ring is what he's supposed to do

Well, that's what I thought was gonna happen today, but he beat the shit out of me I know cuz all you kept was asking was why is this called a ring and it's a square You got to focus on the fight man. Well, but I didn't know that we were in the middle of the fight I thought we were just two guys hanging out does he really hate you like in real life? what we had this whole that we had this entire conversation you know that big famous guy Jake whatever his name is the Jake Ball or what's his name the guy who's out of his mind you know yeah you know he made like ten million dollars on a fight let me tell you what I wasn't thinking yeah I made ten million dollars you a fight. Let me tell you what he wasn't thinking. Yeah, he made 10 million dollars.

You got the same publicity for this. You've been told this a thousand times. Jake Paul, that's his name. Jake Paul. You've been on Good Morning America talking about this. I don't know how you show up today and you don't know what's going on. Okay, I just... My thing I think maybe is that I'm so confused when it's a fight and when it's a talk.

Because I do remember going on Good Morning America and beating the shit out of that little guy. Good morning America, we are here. Not for you motherfucker. Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. Scene, scene. Scene. I'm in the back going, show, show, show, show.

No badda, no badda, no badda, so wing. Tony, how pissed off would you be if at some point you realized the three of us are looking at a shared document No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no shared doc, it's just. Old and ancient, it runs for centuries but never moves. It has a mighty roar but no lungs or throat. What is it? Oh, I went to the wall of China but then it didn't add up towards the end. Yeah. A roller coaster.

Old and ancient. Old and ancient, it runs for centuries but never moves. It has a mighty roar but no lungs or throat. What is it? I was thinking like an old Roman aqueduct or like a cistern. And the roar would be like the roar of the water moving through it.

By the way, this seven years of doing this has really come in clear, guys. You're so good at this. Is it a waterfall? It's a waterfall. My gosh. It's so obvious and that's so good you got that. I gotta tell you.

Maybe it's because we really are blown away that you agreed to be on our show when we're panic getting these, but in every other episode we are flailing. We have never done this well ever, ever, ever. I want you guys to completely receive your gifting because you are gifted at this and I need you to accept it and say thank you Tony, you know, we are good Context Tony does a show where he talks to like really interesting accomplished people and he's giving us compliments

So it does track that like it's got there's got to be some sincerity in here He has a baseline to compare it with. Yeah. And also I don't, I feel inferior to those people and, or I feel, what is it, less than, I feel less than those people, but you guys I feel like, wow. Oh yeah.

Superior. These are huge bags. I'm doing it right. I can give them compliments. Tony, here's the next riddle. Let me see here, I'm squinting a little bit. What, uh, this snake can give you a burn and when coiled up, it's the opposite of a plate. This snake can give you a burn.

Oh, it's on top of a stove. It's opposite of a plate. You could also smoke. He's making this up. It's opposite of a plate. You could also smoke a... He's making this up. As he goes. I just got what you were trying to do, Adel.

I was so fucking confused. I still don't have it. I still don't get what you're trying to do. He's trying to create a riddle that only you would get based on an interest or hobby you may have. Oh, damn it. It's a rope bowl. Holy hell.

Tony, you got one. Oh, you are just... That's very kind of you. That's Oh, damn it. It's a rope ball. Holy hell. Tony, you got one. Oh, you are just, that's very kind of you. Very kind of you. But can we just acknowledge that those two got it before me also? Tony, I gotta get my rope ball, please. Let's just, oh, you're getting it. But like, even that, they got before me.

Oh, brother. Adel is panicking so much. But like even that they got before me. That's sad. Oh brother. Addle is panicking so much. He sees the RoeBall Tony's making, being thrown into the trash, being like fuck that really mean guy. Not at all. This guy was not gonna be.

I got that Kelly Green RoeBall in vision. I mean, I will say Kelly Green RoeBall's a good band name. Yeah it is. Oh, okay. Kelly Green Rope Bowl's a good band name. Yeah, it is. Oh, okay. Kelly Green Rope Bowl. It's a hit. It's a hit. All right, Addle.

I'm ready for another riddle. Addle's about to be Googling, how do I get milk out of a rope bowl so fast? Oh yeah, Kelly Green Rope Bowl's got a big, steely name. Now, if you eat your cereal out of it, I'm gonna be pissed. Hey Tony, the bowl got ruined, but not because of me. Yeah, bitch, I'll tell you why. It's made out of real pie.

Hey, Tony, I love the hat that you made me, but it doesn't hold milk, is that? Yeah, bitch, I'll tell you why. Yeah, bitch. If you ever open a store, like, what's his name, open like a camera shop, Jason Lee opened a camera shop, Tony, you gotta open up, yeah bitch, Rope Bulls. Oh yeah, you would have my business.

Wait, Jason Lee, he opened up a what store? He opened up like a camera store. Really? In Arizona or something, but it's like, Jason Lee's cameras, like he's just like, I love photography, I love cameras. And he just opened up a camera store. Wait, does he work there? He doesn't work there?

Yeah. I mean, he has other employees. Good for Hogan. It's sort of like Hugh Jackman's coffee shop in New York where it's like, he might be there. Hugh Jackman has a coffee shop in New York? Erin, wake up. Billy Corgan has a tea shop in the suburbs.

And then Tony hails at your local farmer's market. Hey bitch, have some radishes. So robo. Tony, I would, the people of Los Angeles. I think Buster Bluth just called me a bitch when I was shopping for eggs. No, yeah, Buster would go, hey, bitch. Hey, bitch.

Hey, bitch. Hey, bitch. Hey, bitch. Hey, bitch. Hey, bitch. Hey, bitch. Tony hails hey bitch robo. Hey, bitch. Oh my God. That should be Applebee's new slogan. Yeah, Addle that should be Applebee's new slogan for sure. That was amazing.

Okay, okay, okay, okay. Okay, this one's just for Tony. This is a real one, I'm not making this up. This is just for Tony. The spoon feeding that's happening is really fantastic. An archeologist found a coin dated 81 years ago and he found a coin that was made in the same year as the coin that was made in the same year as the coin. This is a real one, I'm not making this up. This is just for Tony. The spoon feeding that's happening is really fantastic. An archeologist found a coin dated 81 BC,

but knew it was a fake. How did they know? An archeologist found a coin dated 81 BC, but knew it was a fake coin. How did they know? Is it something that coins didn't exist before Christ? Wait. Yeah, Jesus Christ invented money.

I do wanna see a seed. Wait, 81, okay, wait, 81 BC. I do wanna see a seed. Tony, you're Jesus. Follower, yes. Aaron JBC and I were sort of your followers. And today's the day where you pitch us on the concept of money. Wait, what's the answer?

We'll find it. Maybe we'll find it. Maybe we'll find it along the way. OK, wait, can you back up? What was the what was the game again? You're Jesus. The rest of us are your followers. And today's the day where you came up with the bright idea of money, the concept of money and you're pitching us on money. There he is, there he is, there he is. Hi, hi, hi. Hey guys, sit down, sit down, sit down. I got some fish and some bread.

Oh yes. First of all, thank you so much for being here today. Did you guys know how much I love you? Oh my god, so much. We love you love us. We love you too, Jesus. I do love you very much. Just one fish and one bread. Well, there are 5,000 people. I noticed that you were down at the shop and you stole the apple. You know, I'm not a huge fan of that. Yeah.

So I'm going to today invent a little process called money. Money. Money. So I'm going to today invent a little process called money. Money. Money. And I need for you to take out some of your sack cloth. Jesus. In front of everyone? Well, no, just your spare sack cloth in your bag. Not wearing.

Okay, great, yep. Here we go. I thought he meant underwear. Did anyone else think he meant underwear when he said sack cloth? I did not, sack cloth Yep. Here we go. I thought he meant underwear. Did anyone else think he meant underwear when he said sackcloth? I did not, sackcloth. Here's a fabric. Here's about six inches of my sackcloth.

All right, well, okay. We don't need six inches. And if you could just, so actually let's take that. Oh, that's so nice. You only have five pieces of sackcloth and we have about 5,000 people here today. I got the fish in the mic I'm gonna do something where if you Jay PC could you rip the sackcloth?

Put it back in the bag plant audience plant. They knew each other I've never met this man. I mean, no, I know I know he's Jesus Because you you specifically asked for the first letter and the last letter of your name to be my name and then you wanted Paul's to be in the middle? Jesus, Paul Christ. I just love Paul. Okay. I wanted a little something from Paul.

Thank you. Well, I know and I appreciate that. He is a rock. I don't want to overstep. That's Peter. I don't want to overstep. I think Paul could be the rock of your church. I know you've tapped Peter.

I know you've tapped Peter, but Paul, sorry, Paul's giving me the look. I have to say this. Paul is the best, Paul, you're the best disciple he has. You know it. Okay. First of all, I'd like to label this gossip, but let's get back to the sackcloth. Okay, so who wants to reach into the bag

and what would they pull out? Sorry, I'm writing all this gossip on a piece of cloth to send to Dumois. Okay. Dumois. Okay. Dumois, how do you say that? Judith's here, I will pull it out. Great, and oh wow, it's still happening. Oh man, still happening.

Whoa, still happening. Oh wow. Could you pass out the sack cloth to everybody? And I would just like to deem that sackcloth is the new money, and who's gonna be using that for apples from now on? We. And by the way, I would like to rebrand apple from the first apple. So we're gonna make apple a positive fruit.

Oh. Wait, wait. Oh, Jesus, look, the Roman soldiers, they're breaking their way through the crowd. They're coming up to you. Oh. Jesus, Jesus of Nazareth, is that you? Yes it is, thank you for coming. What's your name?

Oh, my name? My name is... Caesar? Oh, gosh. Caesar, Caesar, prepare to have your mind blown, this guy's amazing. Yeah, that's why we're here! He turned water into wine. Caesar, do you... Do you recognize... You know what, Caesar's here, and turned water into wine. Caesar, do you recognize, you know what?

Caesar's here. And give to Caesar what is Caesar's. So everybody, if you could just give proportion of your sackcloth to Caesar, let's keep on the rules. OK, I mean, this is cool. Yeah. I feel like this is sort of going to cause a lot of evil in the world, Jesus.

And that's sort of the opposite of what your whole branding is. I know. But I think there is something about, like, you know, let's say the government, like, he's sitting in. What is it? Of course, I'm thinking of all these parables in my head. We cut to 300 years later, whatever

was running down the Bible. Does anyone remember? I remember Jesus, from what my grandpa's grandpa used to say, he was really bad at making a point. Really bad? Yeah. Great at magic. Well, he did speak in a lot of parables. Parables. But they had like, they did make you think.

So, I mean, are we storytellers? Many times when people tell stories, they remember more than they do if they just heard a talk. That's true. Speaking of parables, I got a pair of rope bowls here if we want to have some cereal. Hey! Scene, scene, scene, scene, scene, scene.

Hey, bitch. We were in the middle of a riddle. An archaeologist found a coin dated 81 BC. Yes. But knew it was fake. How did they know it was fake? I totally forgot about the riddle. Now, Tony, the scene we just did is a bit of a hint.

Is it? The sort of main character in that scene played by you is a big hint. I think I might know what it is, but I'm gonna hold off. I don't want you to hold off. I don't have any clue here. It wouldn't say.

Are you gonna give us a hint, Erin? Yeah, well, I don't know if I can give a hint. Tony, I'll give you a similar question. A person going through their grandpa's belongings found a flag that said World War I, a tattered flag that said World War I. He immediately knew it was a fake flag, or a fake World War I flag.

When I described to you how my armpits are sweating right now and how I can't feel my body. We'd say that happens a lot on this show. We're so, so sorry. Wait, didn't Tony say before we even did the scene that there couldn't be a BC? I don't, maybe. Oh, did Tony say that?

I did say, oh wait, before? Well, okay, so 80 BC is 80 years before Christ. Yeah. Black and black. And we are 80 BC. 80 BC, come on, come on. It wasn't there. Right, and if you, you wouldn't call it World War I

as it was happening, is your point about the other. Yeah, oh, okay. So if you found a coin that said 81 BC on it, it would be fake because? It would be, it would be fake because at the time you would, Christ was not born. Yes, you would know that Christ was even coming. Yeah.

They didn't know that Christ was coming. At first, when you pitched that riddle, I thought it was just dated. I didn't know that it, that there was like a stamp on the coin that said 81dle, I thought it was just dated. I didn't know that it, there was like a stamp on the coin that said 81 BC. I thought they were just like, this was probably roughly 81 BC. And then I was like, I don't know how you would not.

So good. Does it carbon dating not work? I don't know. How do you, how do you date the coin? Good, good point. Forgery, forgery. Well, this is one big shame game. Thank you for inviting me.

A new name for our podcast, One Big Shame Game. The big shame game. A new name for our podcast, One Big Shame Game. The big shame game. Kind of new branding for us, One Big Shame Game. Rather than RuPaul's Snatch Game, it's Shame Game. Um, Tony, I'm just gonna sort of intersperse my nerdy comedy questions I've always wanted to ask you in between these riddles. What's your favorite like busterism?

What's your favorite buster line from the show? My favorite line, well, I immediately think of my favorite. One of my favorite scenes, even though I'm asthmatic and it was not actually my favorite thing to do, but it's my favorite scenes, is when my mother, Lucille Bluth, Jessica Walter, was on house arrest and she couldn't smoke. And so Buster had to, she would light she would light a cigarette and inhale and I would,

she would light a cigarette. I would inhale the smoke out of her mouth and then exhale it on the porch. And I would run back in like a baby bird and then inhale smoke as she exhaled and then exhale it on the porch. It was such a picture of the depth of co-dependency of Buster Bluth that it just framed him in such a beautiful way. That's perfect. Incredible, that is incredible. How do you not die laughing?

That is so funny. I did. I just broke the whole time. I broke the whole, she didn't really break. Will made me laugh really hard, Job. It's just like, it was so funny. Like it was just David Cross. My favorite David Cross line was, oh what is it, like Jason asks him something and he goes like, how's it going? Or something he goes, good. It's going to be good. That was a good David Cross. That was a good David Cross.

I just love David Cross. Anyways, there's so many, it was really hard to, hot ham water. The most quoted thing in my house is, there's a bird, it walked on my pillow. And she loves birds. I love them, I love juice. Love this juice. Now, Tony, on the rest of development,

correct me if I'm wrong, was there a Sean that worked on that? Oh, yeah, Sean that maybe wronged you that you've sort of Know we're going back to like middle high We're going back to tally Tallahassee Sean there's always a tallahassee Sean Sean. Yeah, but you know you get older Sean's got his life, and I've had a shitload of therapy.

Yeah. Yeah. Anyway. Let's do, we're gonna do one more riddle, and I'm gonna switch it up just slightly. So this type of riddle I'm gonna pose or posit is going to be, I'll call this a trio. I'm gonna give you three

things this is similar to the ones JBC did but not quite so I'm gonna give you three things you have to tell me what they all have in common the gap singing in the rain the movie and chromosomes the gap singing in the rain and chromosomes they all have something in common they all they all contain one The Gap, Singing in the Rain, and Chromosomes. I have no idea. They all have something in common. They all contain one thing. Okay. The Gap, Singing in the Rain, and Chromosomes. Oh wait, um.

Uh, I know. Genes. They all have genes! Gene Kelly, Gap Genes. That's the first one I got! Wow. And the last! Is that what you were gonna say, JPC? No, I had no idea. I was like, oh, it's still on like X and Y. And I was like, yeah, the gap have that has X and Y or yeah.

Well, I was never gonna get that one. Damn good one, Tony. Thanks guys, thanks. Now can we have like Forky say, hey bitch or something? Yeah. Can we have what? Can we have Forky say hey bitch? Forky would never.

Tony, would you mind just one sentence? Could you say something as Forky to my wife Gemma? My wife Gemma loves Forky. Her name is Gemma, right? Mm-hmm. Hey Gemma, this is Forky from Toy Story. Listen, I'm talking to your husband right now and woo, I got some gas.

But Gemma, you hang in there. Bye bye. Bye bye. That's perfect. That is perfect. Telling my wife to hang in there is so appropriate because living with me is a struggle. That's about to be her outgoing voice.

Honestly, though, she's sick right now, Adel. You just said before we started recording that she's sick right now, Adel. You just said before, we started recording that she's sick right now. So a hang in there message, I feel like, is a great message to receive. That is incredible. Does she have the flu? We don't know what she has.

Actually, you don't need to get into it. I don't even know why you asked. That's not funny. Nevermind. You keep that to yourself. What are her symptoms? Poor thing. Gemma, feel better.

I relate to Forky because I'm also trash. I'm trash. Do you know what I love about, there's so many things I love about Forky, but he obviously asked so many questions. And do you remember Gabby Gabby, the little doll in the antique shop? Of course, it was scary.

It was very scary. But Forky, since he was new to the world and didn't know anything, he was just like, she's got pretty hair, and went over and just started brushing her hair. And because she was not deemed the evil doll by someone, it enabled her to have kind of a redemptive storyline, and she found someone to love her.

And it was because someone crossed the line and went over and saw into her world and didn't see her as a bad person, which we need to do more in life. That's beautiful. Wow. And Forky is JP. Well, hey, Tony, you are the MVP of this podcast. Oh, I love it. One riddle, right?

Hey, you still win. Tell people about the show, which releases today. Now, this is a little peek behind the curtain. We are actually recording this on April 23rd, the day the show comes out. Casey is working all night to edit this thing to get it out immediately. I don't know how the math works out.

Don't lie to people. We have no good little laughs. We talked about Jesus today. This is not the time to lie. Tell us about the show, a little more about the show. And yeah, I guess that's show. It's so fun. So yeah, so you know, Kristen Shaw, Matt Oberberg and I, and it's like just what you mean.

It's a joy to do and I think hopefully it's going to be a joy to listen to. And it's honestly like it's an opportunity for us and me to meet people that are doing things that I have absolutely no idea how you do it. You know, it's, I mean, I'd absolutely no idea how you do it. You know, it's, I mean, I, I be honest, I struggle with anxiety. I do not like heights. And we're meeting these people who just do crazy things. I'm like, do you think about death? You know, do you wake up and you can't wait to do it again?

Does it even just things like this, just maybe the opportunity to ask. And, and we laugh a lot and it's really fun. That's incredible. That's a great idea for a podcast. It really is. A lot of people who've like beat Guinness records and all that kind of stuff. That's so cool. Yeah, it's cool. Listen to Extraordinarians.

Extraordinarians. Extraordinarians. Thank you guys for having me. This was really, really, really fun. This is a real honor for us. We are big nerds for your work. Oh, please. Same.

Addle, Erin, do we have anything to plug? I got nothing. I wanna plug Tony Hales, hey bitch, Rope Bulls. Coming to I believe. Hey bitch. Rope Bulls. Sedona Farmer's Market? Yeah, Sedona Farmer's Market near you.

The only farmer's market that would accept me of the entire world will take him fine We'll get a tax write-off Check out the show on patreon patreon.com slash. Hey riddle riddle It's still April of the penguins over on patreon penguin baseball all month long Erin Erin Erin, I know that you I don't want to give too much away, but you know, you've done some Pixar work You know Toy Story's adjacent. Would you like to introduce your new character? Wait, I don't wanna give too much away, but you know, you've done some Pixar work, you know, Toy Story's adjacent.

Would you like to introduce your new character? Wait, I'm sorry. We didn't even, I didn't hear about this. What Pixar work have we done here, Erin? I did some voices and wrote some bits and bobs for their new TV show, Winter Lose, that came out a couple months ago. Yeah, I saw that advertised, yes.

It was so fun. I mean, it was like my, I actually am full of existential dread because it was my dream job and I had no other dreams. So now I'm like, what do I do? New dreams, new dreams. Have you been able to go up to the Pixar headquarters? I've been there a couple of times. Isn't it like the most magical place in the world probably?

It is just so cool. If you guys get a chance to go up and have you been able, like the offices each have like a theme and stuff like that? Do you have a favorite one? I went to one that was like a jungle theme that was really cool. If you guys get a chance to go up, and have you been at like the offices each have like a theme and stuff like that? Do you have a favorite one? I went to one that was like a jungle theme that was really cool, but they're, it's like they get art directors in there to kind of, you know. That's pretty cool.

Yeah, it's pretty cool. I like the crashed plane one a lot, but the witches cabin one, I don't know if you've been in that one. Oh, I didn't see that one. It is the coolest. That'd be hard to work in every day. It's for new hires. it's for new hires.

Oh, okay, okay. If they can't hack it in the witch's house, they bounce out. The coldness. I keep spitting over and ruining my papers. It is the coolest place in the world. It is, and the food's good. It's so good.

I truly, when the first time I went and I was walking around, I was like, did they think I'm like a camera crew? Everyone was so happy and sweet. I would be walking by and they'd be like, I'm working on the lighting for Inside Out 2. Do you want to see what I'm working on? And I'm like, what the heck is happening? You'd be my friend?

Yeah, that's awesome. Congratulations. Thank you so much. Um, we were trying to end the show. What was I saying? Oh, Jupiter. Yes, that's how we ended the show. I forgot that you were trying.

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