High Hopes: A Phillies Podcast - A Little Phillies Winter Meeting Preview

Episode Date: December 3, 2024

James Seltzer and Jack Fritz preview the upcoming MLB Winter Meetings and react to all of the latest rumors regarding the Phillies and Juan Soto. Presented by Miller Lite. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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This is the High Hopes Podcast. High Hopes! On the Odyssey app and sports radio 94 WIP. The crowd was singing High Hopes Smiling through a broken nose Oh High Hopes High Hopes And heaven went by I feel a little less alone Oh, high home, high home There's a little bit to hide, it's down I feel a little less alone

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I wasn't sure we were gonna get this one done today. No, so yeah, inside baseball, I left, Jack couldn't get in the garage, he's driving around like a psycho. Like a madman. I was gonna go home to record, I see you in the garage, we just walk back in, then the video studio doesn't work. Yeah. And now we're back to where, you know,

it's like an old school, it's back to basics. Yeah, back when I could just be me. That's right. You know? You have to worry about like turning and looking in the camera and doing the whole. I'm not gonna look at. I'm Jack Fritz.

Now I was looking right at you. I know, what? Although I do the thing where I start looking above you, because I'm locked in. Oh, me too. You locked in. You see it, like it'll look right there. I don't like the whole. I don't know what to look at. I'm Jack Fritz. Now I was looking right at you. I know, what I do. Although I do the thing where I start looking above you because I'm locked in. You locked in. You stand like you're gonna look right there. I don't like looking right, I'm not an eisman.

I know, you're so not. I don't like looking people in the eyes. You know what I mean? Again. I do, I get it. Not a big spotlight guy. I have to focus on someone else for one second. But, yes, I might have broken a traffic law

to get in here today. Oh yeah, it seemed from your text that you might have broken a traffic law. Oh yeah, it seemed from your text that you might have broken multiple traffic laws. But, I had to talk about the Phillies today. We're here! Because there is pressing things to discuss! Yes, no I... So much happening, Jack!

Yeah, so... Yeah. So let's... Let's dig deep. Let's dig deep where we are right now, currently, because here's where I currently am at. I'm starting to feel things about the football team. That's never a good spot.

Wow. You know what I mean? What an admission on the high hopes podcast. Well, I, I did substitute as a host on the Go Birds podcast. You did, yeah, you filled in admirably. High level, high level. I was like a backup quarterback. You know what I mean?

That's right, Nick Foles, you were the Nick Foles. There's not that much expectation. I know how much you love Nick Foles and like to be compared to Nick Foles. Again, I'm back in on Nick. I'm really happy. You gotta give me five years and then I'll start appreciating things.

If Moe Homes gets hurt and Wentz is the quarterback of the Chiefs. Oh, don't, yeah, I know. That was a quarterback. I mean, if you wanna hear a guy get weepy, start bringing up 2017 Carson. I mean, bombs down the field. You were talking about the Phillies

were three minutes in, talking about the Wents already. He was Josh Allen before Josh Allen. He was Josh Allen, you're right. That's a really good way to put it, you're right. Miss him. But, so I'm starting to feel things about the football team. So which means, hey.

Phillies need to do something. You better make the trade this week. Dave, I hope you're listening. We know you do. Like, this is like alert. You know, there are alarms going, sirens going off right now. Jack is paying attention to the Eagles. Like get on your horse buddy.

And, and might be in. Might be in on the bird. So besides the quarterback. Besides the quarterback, everything else I'm pretty much a huge fan of. But, the other thing is, I just have Miss Rachel stuck in my head at all times. Did you, did you, did Zoe watch Miss Rachel?

I don't know Miss Rachel, no. So okay, Zoe just missed her. Just missed. Just missed. Zoe actually turns six tomorrow. Which is crazy, I was actually thinking about it yesterday about when you went on paternity leave and we were back at the old studio.

Oh yeah. Which is forever. Dude, I left the old, today is when I left the old studio during the show, because I got a call that Emily went into labor on December 3rd, six years ago, fourth it happened, so there we go. Yeah. How about that, six years ago, I ran out of the studio.

And then, you know, then you became a dad. And then I became a dad. So you just missed it. I got a little six year old. She's into Bluey, right? They Bluey. Loves Bluey. So we're pre Bluey.

We're in the- Got it. Okay, so it's the step before Bluey. Bluey's great, by the way. You got a lot of fun coming, you're right. Yeah, I am semi looking forward to watching those shows. Bluey's great. Like actually great. I want him to go back. I want to make sure you go watch Lion King I am semi looking forward to watching those shows. Lou's great, like actually great.

I want him to go back, I wanna make sure you go watch Lion King and watch all the classics as well. Zoe has been hit or miss on some of those. Okay, well listen, the CGI has gotten much better. It's too good now. Of course it's too good. It's annoying.

So you're lucky. It's not that Miss Rachel's, she's fine. It's just. Oh, Miss Rachel shots coming out. It's just, it's all, it's all I think of it, like, sticky, sticky, sticky, sticky bubble gum, bubble gum, bubble gum. So I had a lot of those.

Sticky, sticky, bubble gum. Yeah, it was like that, like a Coco Melon when she was just starting and all that, and a lot of the, you know, the nursery rhymes, the song, clean up, clean up, we all had fun today. Like some of them are still stuck in my head because we used to sing them all the time. It's unbelievable. It's tough.

It's a tough time. Currently, my mind is just occupied with Ms. Rachel and the Eagles. Need a move. Need a move. Especially because there are Mike Soroka rumors everywhere now. It's like he's the most coveted free agent

on the market all of a sudden. Yeah, I'm surprised how many. You started a movement. Thank you, thank you. No one had heard of Mike Seroca before. Never heard of him. Like all these baseball general managers are like, wait, who, what, what did Jack say?

And now he, everyone wants him. That met his hands off. The fact that Druski was wearing a Seroca jersey was all timed. The Seroca movement has been wild. I think, you know, it goes, again, I wasn't a huge part of it, but the Trey Turner ovation around there,

above that I feel like is now the Soroka movement. Because Soroka was a cast off. No one thought about Mike Soroka, you know? And a guy confronted me at Chickies yesterday, listening to the podcast, appreciates coming out of Chickies. He's like, Siroka stinks. And I said, hold on, he sure got 50% of his batters in September.

You know? There's, I'm not giving him 100 mil. Hold on. I'm giving him like six million. Yeah, might cost more now it turns out. Oh, where? By the way, already stressed about the bullpen.

Already stressed. Yeah. Hoff stressed. Yeah. Hoffman's gone. Yeah. They want to make him a starter. And who in their right freaking mind is saying, hey, Clay Holmes, why don't we shift you back into trying to be a starter?

Is that happening to you? Yes. No. The Mets are interested in Clay Holmes as a starter. What? Yeah, I know. 10 years into his career, eight years, what are we doing here?

I know, I know. So if Hoffman's gonna get starter money, we're screwed. Yeah, I know. 10 years into his career, eight years, what are we doing here? I know, I know. So if Hoffman's gonna get starter money, we're screwed. And if that, that might lead to a reset on the S to this, which I don't really want. What is this bullpen gonna look like next year? Again, they're a Sirocco, they're a Sirocco way, but all of a sudden, we're stressed about the bullpen.

Okay, it's good, good. And at least there are one-soto rumors and all kinds of, oh wait. Well, I do love the, I do love the, they'll meet with them. Don't you worry. Meanwhile, there's offers being submitted. Offers are on the table here.

There's a lot of Red Sox smoke out there, a lot of Red Sox smoke, which is, I want smoke. Can I get one smoke? Just a little bit of smoke. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not trying to like, you know, whoa, whoa. Whoa.

All right, hold on, now for the lights. Okay, so in case people are wondering what's going on, we're in the studio and our lights just went out. Is the computer still rolling? Computer's good, we're rolling. Okay. That was weird, I thought we lost power. I thought we lost power.

So I was on the board once when. Oh yeah, I remember that. The station went completely dead, and I'm just in there, I'm like the board once when the station went completely dead. And I'm just in there, I'm like, I don't know what to do here. I was like, this is out of my power. And you know me, I always try to put Salter

in positions to succeed. That's right. That's not a position for Salter to succeed. That is a stress into Salter. It was a horrible position. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so, but yeah, like, can I get one, just one rumor. Just something. Just one, no, but yeah, like, can I get one, just one rumor.

Just something. Just one, no, but not even, not even, hey, they're thinking about meeting with him. I need, I need like Juan Soto misses Kevin Long. So give me- Oh, I like that, yeah. Juan Soto's talked about how friendship is really important to him in this decision-making process.

Something like that. Something. Something that we can like piece together. Right. Yes. Mrs. Bryce Harbour, he talks about how great of a mentor Bryce was when he first got called up. And like misses that connection. Come on. Yeah. Hey, I'll sign Patrick Corbin if you want me to sign Patrick Corbin. Would you really? No, I don't think I would. He still must have years left, doesn't he? No, I think he's done. That contract's done? The contract with Patrick Corbin. Wow. Think about how long we've been doing this podcasting. Real quick, I know that's what I'm saying. That was a real like, wow.

Do you think it was a success? If you're the Nationals? Yeah. You have to say yes or you want a World Series? Yeah. Totally worth it, right? Yeah. It is.

It's a tough one, but it 100%. 100% is. It's a win. We went through literally 10 years of bad baseball. Well, after 11, so. Not 10 years, 10 seasons. Nine years, 10 seasons. So I know what they've been through.

You know what I mean? It was only five seasons for the Nationals. So not that bad actually. Well, assuming they turn it around now, otherwise they could have five more. No, I know. No, I know. I'm not feeling too hopeful.

I'm not feeling too hopeful. My'm not feeling too hopeful about it. My favorite part about the Nationals, I can't wait to see who they do it with. I love that they just signed players who were good five years ago and like, hey, maybe this guy's gonna be all right. Oh, yeah. And he's flipping the deadline.

Found Schwaber that way. That's true. But yeah, I just, yeah, listen, I'll sign Patrick Corbin. The Patrick Corbin thing, I mean, do you remember the scoreboard? Of course I do. How could I ever forget it? What a moment that was.

Scoreboard, the Machado, the construction worker outside of- We've had some moments here. It was one of the most like secondhand embarrassing things in my life was watching Matt Klentzek have to open the door from Eddie Machado. Oh, I know. Like it was a holiday dinner. Horrible, horrible.

It was like, hey, Manny. I'm still embarrassed about it. I wanna talk about it. It was that moment where I said, they're'm still embarrassed about it. I want to talk about it. It was that moment where I said, they're not getting, they're not getting this guy. No, no. First of all, subject them to like walking in with, I am with like people yelling at him. And so I was like, what are we doing here? Sign contract. This is the VIP red carpet that you're rolling out for this guy. It's great.

Hey, man, you want to come in? Yeah. You want to. You're just hanging lots. You can just hang out there and check out the parking lot spring pool right yeah it's like they thought because Tim's cuz Jim told me talk to some construction workers in 2003 they were like oh we're gonna work again every create yeah this is our playbook this is this is how we signed the big boy we've come a long way we have yeah all right so Soto, where are you? Like, where do you think? Where am I at?

Yeah, where are you at? Dormant. I like the Phillies, that's good. Just completely dormant. There's no way he's signing it, right? Like, what's your percentage chance that Phillies are going to win? Like,.0.

Yeah, that's what I would say. I'd say under 1%. Yeah, exactly. I actually, I think he's, I feel like he's going back to the Yankees. I hope so. At this point, like, as long as it's not the Mets, I think he's, I feel like he's going back to the Yankees. I hope so. At this point, like as long as it's not the Mets, I'm good. Yeah.

Yeah. Him on the Red Sox, I would actually wouldn't hate. It's kind of fun. Yeah. But like, thank God the Reds are approaching this off season like you are a big boy. What an embarrassment they've been. Like, I mean the Mookie Bets trade will forever go down as one of the most embarrassing things a big franchise has ever done.

So, hold on. I'm definitely, I'm probably wrong here. I'm probably wrong here. Didn't they trade, did they trade Babe Ruth in 1918? 1919, yeah. Oh, okay. And they traded Mookie in 2019? Oh, wow, I didn't think about the 100 year thing. Or was it 2018 they traded Mookie?

No, because they won in 2018. In 2018. And they traded in the 2019-2020 offseason, rightseason. I'm in 2020 even yeah, but it was somewhere around there He was on the Kovac team. I believe with the first year I don't know if he was actually might have been 2021 when he went he might have been yeah Almost that's pretty wild though. I would have to look it up. I would have to look it up, but if he was traded in Exactly a hundred years. that's pretty wild. Since the Babe Ruth trade. That's so great.

But like at least he goes to those red stocks. I think it just evens it out a little bit. You know, like the Yankees would, it would add a little bit more to Yankees red socks. If he turns down the Yankees to go to the red socks, it would be awesome. It would be the exact opposite of the A-Rod thing. Yeah, it would be.

Yeah. Where A-Rod's gonna be a Red Sox and then whatever happened. And then got put up Yankee. Yeah, well, wasn't it someone like turned down a trade or wouldn't accept a trade or something like that? Something like that. Something like that, yeah.

So anyone but the Mets. And it doesn't, I don't know if it, yeah, so it was 2020, February 11th, 2020. Wow. So 2019 was his last season. That is wild. That's awesome. Love it.

Way to go, Socks. That's baseball. How could you not be ranting about baseball? Is that right? But it really doesn't seem like he wants to be a Met. It just doesn't feel that way. It doesn't. It feels like he wants to be a Yankee.

The Yankees, I don't think really want to go, apparently they don't want to go above 550, but I think they- What a trakee. The Yankees, I don't think really want to go, apparently they don't want to go above 550, but I think they- What a travesty the Yankees are. What an embarrassment. New York freaking Yankees pinching pennies. I know 500 million is not- But come on, like you're the Yankees.

Like if George were alive, so it would be a Yankee. Wouldn't you be a question? Like, what do you want? Here's a blank check, sign it. I'm George Steinmer. I don't care. Hal's like, ooh, I don't know. Yeah, I don't think he, yeah. Move the decimal point a little bit, and then, oh.

I wonder if Soto's going to get 700 at this point. I don't think he is. It feels like 650. Yeah. I think it might be six. Really? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, because there's not.

700, never. I never bought that. Like, you can't. He can't get what Shoei got. Like, that's insanity. He pitches and hits. Like get what Shoei got. Like that's, that's insanity. He pitches and hits. Like, and he's a better, maybe he's not better. Maybe he's as good a hitter.

Maybe better, he might be. Maybe, I was probably- Same range as a hitter in the guys, a top 10, top 15 hitter in the sport. Like, like no one should get what he got. And- End of sentence. And I don't think that the way, if you're reading tea leaves, it doesn't seem like Cohen wants to get, he doesn't want to, you know, have to feel like he's the bit against himself.

So if he's out, he's out, you know, I don't think he's. So that's where I think it might not get to 700 million might be like in the 600 range. But Yankees, Yankees, Red Sox for for soda. That'd be awesome. But I just maybe we sneak in there. I'm not counting. Yeah, maybe we sneak in there. I'm not counting. Yeah Maybe we sneak in there. I'm not counting the meds out till they're out. That's all. Sure. I think that's totally fair I I do hope that you know, maybe they they they have the internal conversations down at

They talked about it Seriously, yeah, should we go meet with them? Hey, maybe maybe we have a meeting I don't know again. I think the one thing that has to be factored in here with the Soto thing is, so Boris is obviously very powerful. We know, and he's looking for a bounce back. It's a revenge off season. Yeah, it was a horrible off season last year,

the Montgomery thing, the Snell thing, all that. So it's a revenge off season for Scott Boris. What the Phillies can't do with him is show their hands on multiple fronts. So we know about the Harper contract thing, whether we want to talk about it or not. I mean, Boris wants to do the contract extension. If they show, if they show Juan Soto and Scott Boris that they have $600 million to offer Bryce Harper, guess what the next conversation is? Or just to offer Juan Soto. Where's my money? Where's Bryce's money? to offer Bryce Harper, guess what the next conversation is? Or, just to offer one, so the next conversation is.

Where's my money? Where's Bryce's money? You have the money, you can't cry poor, you just want to do this. I know, this is all starting to sink in for you. I hate this. I know, I'm just telling you what could be happening. I got it, I got it, I got it.

And the other thing that has to be factored in, and I think arguably more important than the Bryce thing, is a possible pursuit of Alex Bregman because they're gonna want Bregman to get top dollar too and if they only want to go let's say to 180 150 to 180 range they can't say they can't put an offer out there for Juan Soto saying here's 600 million. But why not? Like you could say to Scott Boris he's Juan Soto and he's Alex Bregman. We're not dumb, man.

Like he's 30, he's 26. Like I get what you're saying. But just because you have certain money for a player doesn't mean you're spending it on the other player. Like I get your point. Unless it turns into negotiating against yourself. You know what I mean? Unless it turns into that.

Like on Bregman you're talking about? Yeah, because that's not going to be on Soto obviously. Of course not. Yeah, of course not. I just I wonder if that's a factor. I'm very nervous about the Alex Bregman thing. Like, I like Alex Bregman. I think if I had him for three years, I'd be very happy with it. The idea of giving him 7-180 or something sounds crazy to me. It sounds, it sounds like a horrible decision.

So, I mostly agree, but I also would really want him for three years. Of course, I know. So it's so we're just committing to this and saying, all right, either win now or we're screwed. I mean, we might be there already and it might just be like a pot committed thing. And you just say, you know what? I don't care that 20 that you're joking about 2026 fillies. They'll be good. The 2029, 2030 fillies or 2030 fillies. They might we might have to start joking about how that, know the time for the first pick and all that like it could

Get bad, you know really bad and again all I'm saying and I know you're not gonna resonate with this And it might be only for about three of our listeners Would love that's how five pick again So You're presenting this to me. No, I get it. You're looking at a. I went the wrong angle with you.

A hundred percent. Yeah. I played right into what you were doing there. Now, now full disclosure, you're speaking for a lot more people. I'm speaking for maybe me, Brian, Barbara, a couple others. Yeah, that's about it. And like, and like five people that care about the draft. So again.

Cause you're thinking about the one big, I'm thinking about the, the 55 win season that leads to the one big, I'm thinking about the 55 win season that leads to the one big. Just dodge and weave, baby. That's right. Just dodge and weave, but that's where, that's where I think it's so fascinating the whole crochet angle of this.

Because there is definitely a part of me, and maybe it's because we've reached the point of the off season where it's starting to sink in that they might be- Where it's like, this is the best thing we got.'s like a shift my perspective short moment Yeah Sure Where it's it's that and I'm just starting to get excited about the idea of bringing up the kids and bring up the prospects and

Seeing if they can play or not. We've reached it baby. Oh my god, Justin Crawford Hayden Miller like like there's guys that I would I want to see in a Phil's uniform. So it's the cat and mouse game of what are you prioritizing? Are you prioritizing the window, which feels like three years. It feels like the next three years is their window to win a World Series. Wow. Or are you prioritizing right now or are you prioritizing the window? No, I get it, yeah.

So, and I just wonder where they're currently at. If they're- You're prioritizing the small aggressive window now or are you trying to extend the window and maybe be less aggressive for each year of the window but try and expand the window? That's basically the situation. And I, it feels like the expanded window.

Yeah. It does. Now- But then Bregman doesn't make sense. No, I totally agree. Yeah, I totally agree. Now, would you rather have a domus or Bregman? So that's what I was going to ask you next. I'm very torn on it. If you told me a domus was going to be my shortstop,

but he's not even he's having great. He's not he's better than Trey. Maybe, maybe I think he's definitely better than Trey. I don't know. I use defense decline Yeah, regardless. I don't know. I would rather a Bregman than than a Dom. I would rather have pregnant now Dom I just think a Dom is a bad fit. I mean he's he's he's what everyone else is He's a he's a big swinger. He's got pop obviously not like He's not gonna go up and not swing a pitches outside in the playoffs

like I mean, it's just a bad it feels like a bad fit for this group, so I This is 100% recently biased on Willie Thomas cuz I've seen how the Phillies pitch to him this entire year I believe he didn't get a hit against the Phillies and they struck him out nine out of eight anecdotally, right? I just remember him there was some streak during the middle of the season where they play the Brewers and I think T Mac was like They've struck him out like 50% of their time. So I was I'm scarred from that 100% because he's he's pretty much like you just said. He's just a carbon copy of what we have.

We have 30. Wow. Cassianza is supposed to be 30. I was about to say it's like Nick Cassianza is the third baseman like all right bring him in. Another another now he'll walk more. He'll walk more. You're right. He will walk more. But the strikeout thing is still there. I just, Bregman from the standpoint of, won't strike out, can hit 25 plus. He's a freaking winner.

He's a winner. He's been through it, has, you know, like, I. I do find it so funny though. I find the Bregman conversation so funny, because while I mostly feel all of that, we are acting like he's a 300 hitter every year. Oh, he beat 260 last year. I know.

And he's been around 260. Yeah, yeah. Oh, I know. And it's not like he like walks a ton or anything like that. Like he walks a ton. He used to, but not anymore. Like he's just not the player he used to be is the problem.

You know? He's a fine baseball player. And I do think he's a winning player for, you know, that like a phrase that, you know, he does feel like a winning player, not just because he's won. He's a winning player for, you know, that, it's like a phrase, you know, but he does feel like a winning player, not just because he's won. He's a playoff rising. He does things to help your team win,

but he's just, you're paying him at 30 for what he did from 23 to 30, instead of paying him for what he's gonna be from 30 to 37 or whatever it's gonna be, and he's already been declining the last couple years. Like this last year was his worst year of You know like he just he's going downhill like it's just very evident when you look it Sometimes the only counter I would say only counter

I would say is they might have been dealing with an elbow injury that he clear up in the offseason and his final His final three months. I believe he had an 880 OPS. Okay, so he had horrible first. Look at you, finding the way to spin it. That's good. No one better. No one better. You really. Listen, we talk about spin, we talk about spin rates on the films. That's true. What about spin rates on this podcast?

You're like RPMs non-stop. Yes, yes. Very good. I'm the Lucas Sims. Seth Lugo, by the way, second in Cy Young. Which is, I guess. Insane. Maybe there is something to turning all these

relievers into starters again for every Jordan Hicks there's a Seth Lugo about that now clay homes will not work unless unless they think he's just like Derek Lowe then Derek Lowe's see if they what 30 some games in 2000 and they turn back into yeah ended being a starter I did the clean homes doesn't been a starter and exactly was a starter before that, at this point. Yeah, exactly. Clay Holmes has never started consistently at the Major League level, ever.

I can't believe John Smoltz was a closer. I know. At Lee, where 50-something saves. Why did they make him a closer? I don't remember why it happened. I feel like he's on my side of it. Maybe. I think he might have been coming off an injury

and had an innings limit or something like that. There was something. But he was a closer for most three most of my childhood John small No, it was like three years wasn't it of my childhood. Yeah, your childhood you you're thinking about Yeah, I remember John small 91. Those are mores right? Yeah, I remember well in game seven My smalls growing up was the closer. Yeah, and then the tough and then the Philly trying to sign him in 07 I believe about a winner Smallty I think I like listening to smalls on the broadcast

So I know where I used to I there he has got a lot Yeah There was a period where he just sounded so like he didn't tell me he was having fun doing it and it took Away my fun of watching it, but I agree with you I think the last couple years like I haven't people rip him and I'm like I think that was unfair I think he's fine. He's fine. Yeah He's fine. You know, they must find glad that and smalls Philly's yeah, they must they must I don't remember that no more. I'm glad I remember I remember I vaguely remember this

Well, I don't remember they tried to get him in the tomy offseason really. Yeah Tell me and gladden. How about it? Yeah, they also of Famers. Do you know what, they were like really, they were preparing, they already had done physicals, I believe, for Andy Pettit. Really? I remember the Pettit rumors, I didn't know it got that far along. It was like far down.

And then Cashman, Cashman nixed it because Steinbrenner like all of a sudden changed his mind, didn't want to trade Andy Pettit. But it was done, like it was done. Facts. Been reading a lot. I know, yeah, it's good work. All right, didn't want to trade any better, but it was done. Like it was done. Facts. I've been reading a lot. I know, yeah, it's good work. All right, let's get to the Boehm thing,

because the Adamus Bregman thing only play, like they're not signing Alex Bregman if they had decided to move, not move on from Boehm. Here's my question. Is it too far gone? Like I think they're gonna move Alex Boehm this year, or this off season, I think all the smoke, there's too much smoke, but I don't want them to just treat him.

Like, I don't want them to just be like, we've gotta go. Like, if they can't find the right deal, I would rather they not just give him away. Can they? I mean, we know how, like the big issues with this, the mental fortitude, the toughness, all that stuff. Like, can Alec Bohm hear and see what has happened this off season and come back and be a filling?

I don't think so. Oh no. I just, I don't think so. I don't know how you do it. I just, cause they could have easily come out and squashed it by now. Immediately. And most teams do.

Alec, yeah, we're not trying to move him. I know, and they've been very, they haven't shot any rumors. No. So, from the outside looking at it, I don't know how you do it. I don't know how you do it. So my big like.

Now to be fair, this has happened. It has. There are times where players names are out there and then they come back and they can work it out. It's just with Bo, it feels like with, especially with the issues he's had, it just seems unlikely that he's the type of player who's gonna be able to handle it.

Yeah, I just wish there was, I wish there was a guy right below Soto as a free agent. I know. Which it's really screwing the whole thing up. It's a really bad off season. Because keeping Bum's fine, they just need a real four hitter. And if you can bump Bum down

and then bump Cassianus down, it's just, there's not that guy out there. You can talk yourself into Tyler O'Neill. Like I would. Yeah, but he's not like, he's not a discussion. Like, there's no, there's, you could put T. Oscar there. But even. I think he'd be the closest name to it,

but he's also 31 and you know, he's also a free swinger. And he strikes out a lot. Strikes out a ton, yeah. And he had a career year. He had a career year. So it's just, there's not that there's not there's also not obvious trade guy unless you just go full defense and you and This guy's not he's more serviceable to play than just a defensive player

But unless you just make a trade for like Jake McCarthy, you know what I mean who I really like by the way is a baseball I like I'm a big Jake McCarthy fan But like you're going for defense. Yeah, yeah speed. I mean the guy can move but you can move Yeah, I know it's it I really do like Jake if they if they acquired even Carthy I won't be upset with that. No, but I agree with you. It's not they need a they need a bad They need a big dude. I know they need a bopper They need a bopper or if they don't then you got the if they don't go get a true four hitter Bopper type that can hit 30 plus home runs then and then I think the discussion shifts to

Change in lineup around putting Bryce at leadoff or putting Bryce at second so that you have a Shore burn in the middle of a lineup that can hit a home run every once in a while Yeah, look, I'm I'm a sure we're at leadoff guy, but like at this point after the last two post seasons, like whatever. Well, especially what we've seen. I'm willing to mix up anything. Of course, me too. And especially what we've seen with Bryce in the post season

where eventually teams were like, well, you're not gonna beat us. Yeah. Like we're not gonna let you beat. Anything else but that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Except for that one at bat against me. I know, I know.

Dude, that match there, he sucked, man. It sucked. I hated it. I don't even want to think about it. Like, it's like, honestly, to your point from the beginning of the pod, like, thank God the Eagles are good, because I, as a sports fan, I needed it. Like, I actually, I was so down, like, I need to be picked up. Like, that's how upsetting it was.

And it's right around this time where they pick you up. Yeah, maybe the Phillies will pick us up. Whoa! Yeah, well, it's just, it just, this is the cycle of us, Philly sports fans like, oh, they'll pick us up and then they'll let us down. And then no, they'll pick us up. At least this time we don't have to think about, oh, the

Sixers will pick us up because we just know that they won't. What about Mich? What about Michkov? I love Michkov, man. I mean, look, we got rookies in this city at least. I mean, you're the rookies. I mean, Quinian Cooper, Jared McCain, Michkov, painter coming.

I mean, those are five freaking studs, dude. Let's go. The future. Yeah. This is definitely not the same conversation we had in 2016 when we had Carson and V and Wentz and Ben. I can't remember that long ago. I'm sorry.

Nolan Patrick. I can't remember. Nolan Patrick. Who the Philly or they got the rights to, I believe, the night that Nares allowed three home runs in Los Angeles. Oh, in LA? What a horrible night that was.

And I will never forget. Oh, God, I will never forget that. That was horrible. I think me and you were together. We were at a vent, I think, right? Or something, yeah. It was horrible. And I just, no one was watching the Phillies,

besides, I believe me and you. Yeah. Just watching Hector Nares melt down in front of our eyes. So, I got. The Nerys, the Nerys meltdowns were unlike. Anything I've ever seen. It's still to this day. The Pablo Sandoval home run. Oh my God. Down in Atlanta.

Oh my God. And for some reason, JT called it the fastball. Good times. It's nine hectares. No. No, no, no. We finally reached the Hector. No. No, no, no. We finally reached the point where you. No, no, no, no, no.

I just, we can, it's not a shot at Hector. We can do better than that. We can do better. Especially because we're gonna be losing possibly, probably Jeff Hoffman. Can we do better? Mike Soroka, can we do better? Dude, he's, come on, he's the guy.

He's gonna be the highest paid player. I mean, Soto or Soroka, he's gonna get more money. It's a question of the off season. Again, the Mets, this is a message to you. You can sign Soto all you want. You don't have to sign Soroka. Yeah, it's fine. That's a great message.

Thank you. I think the vast majority of the pod fans will get behind that. I agree. Who cares about Soto? Leave Soroka alone. As the world's population grows, so does the need for resources like Podash to support sustainable food production.

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Probably the right word. Yeah, but is Thinking about the future top five draft that we're gonna have when we have all these old players. That's exciting. This is great I'm really really lifting lifting up the audience right now and Don't touch Soroka. Yeah, good. Yeah, Science Odo, Mets, we'll take Soroka. That will not be the title of this podcast. All right, before we get to the take bag. Is there?

One other thing, well there better be. One other thing I wanted to get to, cause you sent me this yesterday, and I am so excited to hear your thoughts on this. I have no idea what you think about this. You just sent me an article about it. I'm like, what the hell is this? I looked into it, I've read about it.

I wanna talk to you about the Goldenip Bad. So for those listening who do not know what this is, like I didn't until yesterday and Jack sent me this. The Goldenip Bad is a rule proposal that is apparently gaining some traction. Bob Manfred giving it some love. The idea would be that you get, each team gets one golden at bat per game,

and in any situation in the game, they can use the golden at bat and bring anyone up to the plate. So for example, let's go to like, game five of the World Series against the Astros a couple years ago. That big at bat with Johan Roas up, runners on base. The Phillies could have said-

You're talking about the Diamondback Series. Diamondback Series. I was thinking that the Brandon Marsh- The Brandon Marsh- Yeah, either of those at bats, we could be like, you know, oh, oh, oh, hold up, Bryce Harper, step to the plate, sir.

There's a lot of logistical things with this, like what if Bryce Harper's on second base at that time? They haven't, I don't know what if price harpers next in the line they want to pop them up then what happens in the night to see back twice like there's so it happens in the sixth and there's so many logistical issues with this but apparently it's something they're considering Jack your thoughts I mean Rob Manfred is no I knew your thoughts are gonna be there is you do not need to make the sport of baseball a gimmick and this is not a shot at the Savannah bananas

Let them do their own thing. We don't need to make baseball. They're the Harlem Globetrotters. Let them do it. It's fun baseball it would it would ruin the sanctity of the sport there There is, I just, we've adjusted to the Ghostrunner on second base. If you want to stop having 20, 20 in the games, I get it. Holy cow. You can't just have the be like, Hey, you know what? Nah, we're going to bring this guy up. I just, I think it's, I think it's beyond lame.

I think it's beyond lame. And I think it's totally gimmicky. I think it's one of the worst ideas I've ever heard. Like one of the worst ideas that has ever been proposed as a change to a sport that I love. Like it's nonsense. It's a different thing. Like, is there anything better?

And like, look, it might not work out for you sometimes, but there's nothing better than a player coming to the play, your aether coming up and coming through in a spot and getting a moment or whatever it is, it's just the sport. It's the way you play the sports, how you pitch around guys. Like you'd have to, it just would completely change the structure of what the sport is. And look, I get the thought in the ninth inning, you'd rather have Aaron Judge going up against closer X then, then, uh, you know, Alex Verdugo or whatever it would be like sorry it's

baseball so it's so non-sense and what it would it would they have in the postseason of course I think they would right I think it is again the dumbest idea ever that is my official stance well and there's a reason why I texted to you and not in the group chat with Elliot because you know Elliot loves it. Oh, this will be so exciting guys. Think about it. Bryce Harper coming to bat anytime in the night. It's exciting.

It's not. It's, it's, it's, it's, you're just changing, you're changing. It's too much of a change to the structure of this sport. And we've, we've accepted a lot. And I do miss, I, by the way, I'm back in on the, the, I missed the pitcher hitting nationally. You're back? Yeah. Congratulations, that's good. It was just, that's baseball.

So, look, hey, it's an automatic out, which means a little quicker to bed for me. The thinking man's league. Every decision I make is based on when can I get to bed these days. Yeah, well, listen, maybe one day you'll- Hence why the Ghostrunner. I'm like, sure, bring it on, buddy.

Now, let's say theoretically. Yes. You ever change shifts again? Ooh. Have you done with the tires? Of course, this only is the fact that I wake up three in the morning, like that's it. So the ghost, I've accepted the ghost runner.

I would not accept the golden rule. No, I would. Golden at bat or whatever. Again, like the worst idea ever, don't do it. It is such a, I'm trying to think of like, I'm right now, I'm trying to I'm trying to think of like I'm like I'm right now I'm like on the spot training of like in football or baseball like an exam basketball like an example of If I could come up with something that I thought would be as dumb I was trying to go if you like you know switch the quarter. I'm trying to think there's nothing is dumb

I can't even come up with a fake example of something as dumb as the real idea that they have yeah I mean, it's kind it's not the same thing. It's similar fake example of something as dumb as the real idea that they have. Yeah, I mean, it's not the same thing. It's similar to the Eagles' proposal that they keep putting out every year, where instead of not psychic... No, that's a much better proposal. This is way dumber than that. You're talking about the fourth and 15 thing? Which I like.

That's a way better idea. I don't hate that at all. Like, this is not... This would be like, all right, there's eight seconds left on the basketball in a game. You're down one. Hold on pause We can pause the game for a second We want to hand the ball to Joel Embiid Joel you we don't have to do it. He gets the ball one-on-one It's one-on-one. We're doing one-on-one now Joel one-on-one to end the game. You get to go against him

That's what it feels like. It's that dumb. It will get that dumb It's kind of it's kind of actually brought mulligans to golf Sure. Yeah, and what's it bad or even better. No, it's even better than that. You know what it is? It's if you can go up here one time you can ask the the tour pro who works the thing to come out and take your shot. Oh, I'm down a stroke at the end. Guess what? I'm using my tour pro to come out. He's going to put it right on the green and up. I gained three strokes there. Ha ha I win. Like it's so nonsensical. Yeah, it's like the old celebrity shot in Beer Pong. Exactly, it's exactly what it's like.

Yeah, it's just so dumb, it's so dumb. It's very not baseball. And I don't like that they're saying it's gaining traction. Like I'm not cool with that. Manfred, no one better. He's the worst. No one better. God, let's Gary Bettman look good. Than Rob Manfred.

All right, take back. So, there's been a, you know, whenever I tweet about crochet or whatever, there seems to be like a, oh, they have enough starting pitching and- I think, even I've said that to you before. Sure. So, I think that-

I think you need to make the case. I even made it for you. I was talking to someone yesterday, it was the Baltimore trip, and they mentioned the crochet thing to me, and they're like, you know, is he that good? And I was like, well, Jack thinks he's the second best lefty in baseball.

Like, so I was like, I used you as an example of what you had said on the midday show with us to kind of illustrate how good crochet actually is. He struck out 30% more batters than he walked. So, it's pretty good. It's pretty good. Now, it's what you're looking for. And I've watched a couple of his starts.

Again, not to be totally hyperbolic. Hyperbolic, hyperbolic here. Yeah, never a doubt. I got there. I got there. Yeah, it was great. It was in. He reminds me of

O-Nine Cliffley, but with 98 and 90, like he doesn't really walk people and it's a power fast ball. So now the last, now this is all the, to manage his innings. He's the worst pitcher, worst team in baseball. So we don't need to run him into the ground and they want to maintain his trade value, but they didn't go like more than four innings and it starts since June. So they- Wow, really?

Yeah. You still throw 145 innings, but you know, and that would change obviously a year. Like they wouldn't be doing that. But I just- So he's got one more year of control and then he has to be signed, right? This year and then another.

And then that's what I mean. One more after this season was I trying to say, yes. That's correct. Yeah. So maybe if he's cool, we'll pay him. He'd actually, yeah. We'll give you a contract after this year. Yeah, probably not. Probably not.

No, you didn't seem very cool about it last year. No, no. Especially because he wasn't saying like, I won't pitch for you. He's saying, if I get traded to a contender, you gotta pay me if I'm gonna pitch for you. Yeah. Yeah.

Now, I have heard- People in Philly loved that. Yeah, but I've heard he's like a, he's tough. Look, I don't blame pitch for you. Yeah. Yeah. Now I have heard people in Philly it loved that Yeah, but I've heard I've heard he's like a he stopped look. I don't I don't blame him I get it. Yeah, you Tommy John's I know I think the injury concerns real. Yeah, that's what I say like Lisa Coming up to Tommy John's and then move on like how how concerned are you that he's coming off to Tommy John's? I mean like that something worth worth worth including in the whole discussion, you know? It's worth including. It's worth including. But... That second one really got it though. It's good. We're good.

Yeah, the second one. The second one fixed, but the first one didn't. Exactly. So... One of the odds he has three Tommy Johns. No shot. No shot. I guess what? Hey, even if he does, be a dominant reliever. There you go. He'd be a dominant reliever. So he reminds me of O'Ni Cliffley and Zach Wheeler. So you know, no big deal. Not hyperbolic at all.

Not at all. Right down the middle. But again, strikes out a ton of guys, doesn't walk guys, power stuff, all the underlying numbers suggest that like his ERA I think was 3.5. I think it should be in the 2, 5, the 3 range. He's awesome. Like I think he's awesome. I think Dave used it as his Chris sale trade all over again. Now sale was much more durable at that point.

But again, he's 26 years old. And when you're thinking about the future of- Yeah, sale was the worry of it. Like with sale, it was everyone saying he's going to get hurt more than him actually having been hurt already. Sure. Which is, I mean, hit- That's what I mean. Remember sale, like it, hit, hit. That's what I mean.

He didn't waxing his locks. Dude. It looks like it hurts. It looks like, dude, even from the jump, first time I saw him pitch, I'm like, how does his arm not snap off at the, like how does it just not pop, it looks like it's gonna pop off.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so I just, I think the crochet, I think we're underrating him a little bit. I think the case to go for him is two-part. Again, Soto is the biggest difference maker you can get. But like Crochet, I think is behind him. I think he's more of an impact than Bregman would be. I think he's more of an impact

than any of the outfitters would be. Outside of a trade for someone who I can't even think of right now. It would be someone we haven't talked to. It'd be an onyx, which happens, but. Sure, and it's not as if, I think it's more impactful than trading for a closer. Helsley, Devin Williams, you know, I get it.

Crochet a future rotation of, and Wheeler only has two years, by the way, so you have to think about the future after him. A future rotation of crochet, painter, Nola's still here, older Nola, and then Chris Sanchez, whatever. It's just, Noel's still here, older Noel, and then Chris Sanchez, it's just, there's not another arm coming behind painter that you can like, that's a guy.

Abel, we'll see, we'll see, but after that. I mean, I don't think, yeah, you can count on Abel. And yeah, so you have to think about the future rotation if you wanna keep building this core out, and I just think that if he gets out of Chicago and gets here and gets around these guys that you're going to see a different level of Garrett crochet to where he is competing for the National League site young I think they trade for him he's going to finish top five in the NL site young he's just there's a lot of underlying stuff with him that I think is is gaudy. So I understand that they don't quote unquote need starting pitching, but it's almost, and he's not this player, but it's similar to the argument of you can have anyone run behind

the Eagles offensive line. Why do you need to go get Saquon Barkley? You know what I mean? I get it. So, and look what Saquon's done to this team. It's not that the Phillies can't not go get hitters You can get Garrett crochet and also go sign headers, but having a Wheeler crocheted Nola Sanchez playoff rotation is pretty disgusting and I still don't trust Nolan a playoff start. So, you know, what?

Yeah, I think he's awesome and I think think, I think we underrate, I think we're underrated. You're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're excitement about him has, has made it so that if they do make a move, I will be more excited about it than not. It's just hard. It's hard to watch.

And I'm, I'm speaking for many, as you acknowledge, like it's just hard to watch the playoffs and be like, Oh, go get a starter. Like make that your big move. And that's all. And I get it. I get get make your team better. I get that. And I am all for move. And that's all, and I get it. I get, make your team better. I get that and I'm all for it.

And that's why I'm not, I don't hate on it. It's just, it wasn't what I was expecting. I know. But you have to make the team better. I agree. And I just don't know what the bad, I don't know who the bad is. It's a little bit, it's a little bit like

when they let Worth walk and signed Cliff Lee. I mean, it's, they kept doubling and tripling down on pitchers. It's a little bit like when they let Worth walk and signed Cliff Lee. They kept doubling and tripling down on pitchers with Oswald and Lee. It's a little bit reminiscent of that, but I think he's phenomenal. So we'll see. As a Fizz member, you can look forward to free data, big savings on plans, and having your unused data roll over to the following month, every month. At Fizz, you always get more for your money.

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so I think it's us, I really- Who knows who don't know the winter meetings start in three days. Can't wait. Very soon. Can't wait. And we'll be on standby. We'll be on standby.

For anything. You know it. Good it says we get another one of those in Baltimore, that would've been annoying. Need the Red Sox to sign Max Fried, to take them out of the curve. We'll be on standby. We'll be on standby. For anything. You know it. Good it says we're getting out the one that was in Baltimore. That would've been annoying. Need the Red Sox to sign Max Fried to take them out of the crochet running.

But I think the Phillies are the leader in the club to ask for Garrett crochet. I think they want Garrett crochet. I think he's definitely gonna get traded. 100%. Like he is gone. And I think the trade proposal is gonna be Crawford, Cabbaba and maybe Bum.

So like, I think it's. Yeah, I just Bum doesn't make a ton of sense. It doesn't. But maybe they could flip him. Yeah. For something. Well, Crawford and Cabba, that's two top 100 prospects. I mean, that's that's something. Yeah. And and then I think that what they would be determining is if they want to put Taiwan on the deal

and then take back Benetendi, who has the same deal as Taiwan. If it's another year. You'd rather have Benetendi than, I'd take the extra year and have a guy who could play for you at least. I know Benetendi wasn't very good last year, but at least he is, you know.

He left last year. Yeah, I'll do it again. I would take him. I'd rather have an outfielder who maybe doesn't suck than a pitcher who definitely does suck. Sure. Is that fair? Sure, for an extra year, 15 million,

I think I looked at the other day. So I just, I think it has a pretty good chance of happening. I think the Phillies are being pretty aggressive about crocheting. My thing with the crochet sweepstakes or whatever is, and this is my problem last year, is that I just want them to, if you want Gary Crochet, then just go get Gary Crochet and let people be like,

all right, they're confident. It feels like they're always waiting to get the best deal possible, where of course you wanna get a good deal. I'm fine with that, get a good deal. I know, but it just leads into some doubts of why are they kind of hesitant? Why are they now?

So I get what you're saying, but that's us. Like as long as internally they are, it's, that's not the reasoning. As long as internally they are like, we're getting him. We're just going to get the best deal we can to get him. You know what I mean? I know. It's just for us as fans, we want it to feel like the,

but like I ultimately think that's a perception thing. It doesn't really matter. If they make the move, they make the move. You know what I mean? No, I do have another pitcher idea that has not been thrown. This could count as perfect off season 8.0. Okay, good, you may as well. I mean, why not keep the big going?

Why not trade a similar package? And it might cost less to trade for this guy than Crochet because a little bit of injury concerns, but I mean Sandy Alcontra is right there. Oh wow that's a fascinating name I think they would move him I'm sure they don't want to pay him long term. No he's under contract or he signed an extension so he's paid for Marlins money. For Marlins but yeah not like big-time money. He's under contract for the next two years. I mean I would be

very intrigued by that very intrigued by that. Very intrigued by that. Sandy Alcantara. I think it'd be cheaper too. I think it'd be cheaper prospect wise too. Like maybe one of Crawford Goblin. I agree. Rather than both. And I think I'd rather do that.

Yeah, maybe. I mean, again, I don't know how, I mean, miss the year. So I don't know how bad, you know, I would- And they definitely would not take on Taiwan's contract. No, that's something they're not going to do. No, that's a good point. That's a really interesting name. I'm surprised his name hasn't been out there more.

Yeah, Alcontra, Alcontra would be very, very interested if they'd be interested in moving in. Especially if it's cheaper. Yep. I like that. They're probably going to trade Lazardo. You know I love Lazardo. Your boy, Jesus.

Yeah, so I don't know, but we'll see. And then the other thing is, I know he doesn't wanna move, but if they strike out on Bregman, and they strike out on any of the left-fielders, and they strike out on Adamas, the best path for them to- Is to move Bryce to right. Is to move Bryce back to the opposite side

and sign Christian Walker. Would you rather sign Bregman for seven years, 180, or three years, 60, a Christian Walker? I'd sign him for question. I'd rather have Christian Walker. What about, hey, or three years, 60, of Christian Walker? It's not even a question. I'd rather have Christian Walker. What about, hey. Bring him home. Well, hey, what about the polar bear?

Bring him home. Oh, no. No, no, no. Nope. What about the polar bear? Can you imagine having a root for that guy? No, I know I would. It's like the, so.

It'd be like rooting for Wes Almsley. Well, it's like Major League Two. Did you know Major League Two at all? I'm a big proponent of Major League Two. I think it's very underrated. It's very funny. But Bob Euker, when they signed Jack Parkman, he's doing this whole thing about,

he's like, oh, it's amazing how a new uniform can change your old perception of the guy. And then he goes, he's still a D. He's like, he's still a D, covers his mic. And it's like, that's exactly what it is. It's like, I root for him. I don't think I could love people. would have a tough time room for I would really it'd be like like out the side of my mouth you know I mean like

Then he has 50 home runs when he's our guy and he's my love he's in the all-star game Yeah, our guy if they Then making me root for Alonzo. It would be dark. It would be rude. Honestly, it would be rude. That's the word that comes on in me. How rude? That's the Full House.

Yeah, look at you. You're Stephanie Tanner there. But, I just, if you're gonna strike, if you're looking for an impact bat, there's impact bat first baseman's out there. Yes. I mean, Vlad Guerrero is gettable impact bat first baseman's out there. Yes.

I mean, black Guerrero is gettable, I would say. Yeah. Bryce, you might have to have a conversation. I would just be, it wouldn't even be a conversation. It'd be Bryce, you're going to run. If you're worried about your arm, put him in left. Deal with it. Put him in left.

Honestly, here's what you do. Here's what you do. You throw him the extra years at the end of the contract. We'll give you, all right. Hey Bryce, here you go. I'm gonna, we're gonna, cause you know what? Can we all be honest? They're gonna give him to him at some point.

I mean, if he really desperately wants those years, Bryce Harper will probably get those years at some point. Say, hey Bryce, we'll give you the extra two, go to right, we're billing it in five. Let's go. Win. I, I hope. Win! I hope it's on the table.

Cause it's, it's probably actually the best option. When you look at it, it is the easiest way to help this lineup is that. Yes. Hey, need you get. Need you three. Come on, buddy. I thought you cared about Philadelphia.

Need you three. Need you three. You loved us and want us to win. You know? First base is fun. Money where your mouth is. First base is fun. Oh, I'm sure it's way more fun. You're just standing out right field doing nothing all the time. First base, you know? First base is fun. Money where your mouth is. First base is fun.

Oh, I'm sure it's way more fun. You're just standing out right in the field doing nothing all the time. First base, you're involved all the time. Yep. So I get it. Oh, I totally get it. And look, he's phenomenal at first base.

Especially for someone who's played it for a year. He has gotten very good, you know? Need it. Uh, so real quick. Real quick, and then we'll get out of here. Yeah, I don't need to nap or anything. Real quick. Uh So real quick real quick Real quick real quick and not to bring everyone back to 2009 but they are very lucky they won in 2008 because losing games three and four and going back and like reading and like breaking them down Just all-time bad losses. I know I was there all times. I lost three was it game through the

Just all-time bad losses. I know I was there all times. I lost three was it game through the I wasn't was when handles is up three nothing and a lot of my yeah that was that that was the game I was at the first use of instant replay in World Series history huh yeah I was there that game was horrible horrible I have the worst memories Andy patted a single in that game worst memories of that game and then they followed it up with Lidge not covered covering third base and that's night I forgot about that yeah you're right he's hit the I forgot about that memories of that game. And then they followed it up with Lidge not covering third base the next night. Oh, I forgot about that. Yeah, you're right.

After Phillies hit the. I forgot about that. Yeah. Phillies tied it up off Jabba. Yeah. Back when Jabba was like Jabba Jabba. Jabba was so good. For a second.

For a second. But for that second, like he was nasty. They had, it was supposed to be what him, Hughes, and. Remember the freaking Nats in Cleveland, too? Yeah. But they were supposed to be Phil Hughes, Jabba Chamberlain, and Ian Kennedy. Yeah, look at you. to be Phil Hughes Java Chamberlain and Ian Kennedy Yeah, look at you. What a pull leave for the big the other two good careers

I mean also when all the years that I've been all right Yeah, and so they can't even Kenny stuck around like he had a career the point is when all the like look at that Paul Wilson Bill Paul so far Jason is ring housing is ring housing the only one who had a career and it was his closer They were supposed to be they were the three like supposed to be superstar Mets remember that no that was before my time I was before my my word that that was like the whoa look at the Mets They got these three guys. It's gonna be the best trio ever. That's the same thing as when they had it was like Yeah, it was like your arm hard exactly except those guys end up being better Ian Kennedy a former Philly great by the way, of course, you can forget the in Kennedy moment we had

Another good. He was a great great reliever we had here. Dude, Kenebel. He's fine in Texas, came here stunk. Kenebel. How the guys were fine wherever they were and came here and stunk. Well, Hambry, Workman. All of them. Kenebel, Kennedy, Robertson.

You mean we can go through a Litany, Jerry Sommelia. Oh yeah, big time. Wow, he was god of. Carlos is definitely. Yeah, Jerry Samilia. Oh yeah, big time. Wow, he was got off. Carlos is definitely. Yeah, true, honestly. He wasn't that, he was fine. He was fine here, but he wasn't good. So winning in 0-8 really masked the pain

of what 0-9 could have been. That's a really great point. You're so right about that. If they lost 0-8 and then lost that way in 0-9, like we're. It's like if the Eagles didn't win in yeah well that's why they need to that's why this Philly team has to freaking win dude that's why we can't look at this era like that could have been so she when you you know it honestly the worst part of this podcast for me was thank you no I'm not I know where this is going

do you know what it was no there was one thing you said throughout it you know that we'll only has two more years left when you said that today's podcast in today's pod no I'm saying in doing today's pod like when you were like well only has two more years of it I you said that- Oh, today's podcast. Yeah, in today's podcast, no, I'm saying in doing today's podcast, when you were like, well, it only has two more years left, I was like, I got really sad thinking about that. I'm like, are we not gonna win a title with Zach Wheeler? Like this guy who's the freaking playoff superstar,

like this guy's not gonna get a title? That can't happen. That can't happen. Well, they didn't win one with Alda. I know, buddy. I thought about that too. Yeah, I know, I know. All right. This is great. It definitely didn't happen one with Halda. I know, buddy. I thought about that, too. I know, I know. All right.

This is great. Definitely not. But now you got anything else? What a way to end the pod. Uplifting podcast here today. I thought you were going to bring up what I said after they lost the World Series. Oh, well, you were so right about that, too.

That killed me. Yeah. It's really hard to win, buddy. It's really hard to win one. This was the one. Go Phelps! Go Phelps! Winter meetings, baby.

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