History Hyenas with Chris Distefano and Yannis Pappas - 156 - RuPaul, Werk it gurl!
Episode Date: June 24, 2020You better work! It’s Pride Month and Lieutenant Lollipop and Baby Gorgeous are here for it! The boys discuss the artist behind their favorite song “Supermodel (You Better Work)”, RuPaul Andre C...harles. RuPaul has become a beacon in the LGBTQ+ communities by being the figure head that brought the art of drag to the masses. But he wasn’t the first, and so the Cuzzies dive deeper into the history of drag and how “Yaaas Queen” and RuPaul's Drag Race came to be! Listen to another WILD fun ep CuzzieWant more Hyena content? Check out www.patreon.com/bayridgeboys where things get really WILD!Follow us!: 🙆🏼♂️🐕🙆🏻♂️🙆🏼♂️Chris Distefano on Instagram, Twitter, website🙆🏻♂️Yannis Pappas on Instagram, Twitter, website🐕History Hyenas on Instagram, Twitter, website Subscribe to the poddy woddy on YouTube, iTunes, Spotify, and HH Clips
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What's up? I'm Chris DiStefano, a.k.a. Chrissy D, a.k.a. King Gay.
You're listening to the Bay episode of the History Hyenas.
I'm Chris DiStefano, a.k.a. Sergeant Snuggles.
With me as always, Giannis Papas, a.k.a. Lieutenant Lollipop. We have a wild episode today. I want to start it
off by saying Black Trans Lives Matter. Yes, and trans fans are fans, and Beyond Burgers are
burgers. Today's episode's about RuPaul, and we're probably going to say some things that we
accidentally don't mean to say, like calling some people from the transgender community
by the wrong name.
So I just want to say on record
that Black Trans Lives Matters
and we're the good guys, we're your allies.
Yeah, we're going to start off just by Eminem in it
saying, you know what?
We're coming from a place of ignorance.
This episode is just as much about us
enlightening ourselves as it is about us entertaining you.
So go easy on us.
Yeah, this episode's going to be great
talking about the wonderful RuPaul,
who I love so much.
I mean, you know,
if you watch our morning show every day,
Weppa in the Morning,
available at patreon.com slash brayridgeboys.
We have a segment called Work It Girl,
where Giannis and I sing and dance
to her famous song, Work.
Yeah, and that's only part of it.
The real thing to remember
is that segment is all about celebrating women
and those who identify as women
and their accomplishments throughout history.
Guys, let me tell you something.
You're coming on this podcast low energy,
so you've got two fucking options right now and two options only.
Okay, Bubbas?
Listen to me.
Either I'm going to come over there and I'm going to start caressing you fucking nutsack,
or I'm going to give you an Eskimo kiss on your belly button,
even though I know the word Eskimo is derogatory right now
and I'm sorry about that.
So which is going to be?
You want to get
your nutsack tickled
or your belly button
kissed by an Eskimo?
I'm going to go for neither.
Is there a third option?
Yeah, the third option
is just to pick up the pace.
I mean, we fired Mike Suarez.
Now you got to pick up the pace.
I like the girl dad.
That's also a good deflection.
That's like a shield right there. If anyone comes at you, you just let them know I am the dad dad. That's also a good deflection. That's like a shield right there.
If anyone comes at you, you just let them know I am the dad of a girl.
I support women.
I support women.
Let me tell you this.
If anybody ever came at us with saying that we were transphobic, you're fucking wrong.
Giannis and I, Giannis is about to be the father of a beautiful baby girl.
I am the father of a beautiful baby girl.
Tell me, if we weren't, in fact, on the inside, transsexuals,
how could we be giving birth to girls?
How would our dicks make girls if the inside of us wasn't a woman?
That's science.
You can't dispute that.
Yeah, and I'm more known as a transgendered woman.
Yeah.
So you can't say that I'm not transgendered because that's my true personality.
I've been friends with Giannis since 2012.
I only found out he was a guy in 2015. Yeah. And
all of Chris's charm comes from the fact that he looks
like a man, but he acts like a woman. We
are women.
We are women, cuz, and there's been a big cry, especially
in the comedy community, to take down the patriarchy, but
baby, we are safe, because we're the matriarchy.
Here's the thing, cuz. This is why
you're, I think,
the simulators are
having a good time, because you're prime think the simulators are the simulators are having a good time because you're
you're you're you're you're you're prime for superstardom right because we're in an era right
now whereas if you act like a guy yeah if you do anything masculine right it is it's seen as i think
as aggressive and kind of like whoa what's that right okay right but here's aggro it's aggro but
here's the deal If you do get big
Yeah
Then they find something
To tear you down
Yeah
So you're just in limbo
Cuz
Well the thing is with me
Is what eventually
When and if we both do get big
Cuz by the way
The show
The History Hyenas Podcast
Is doing so well
I don't want it to get big
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But when and if we do get extremely big.
Oh, and turn on alerts.
Turn on alerts.
Turn on your alerts.
Absolutely turn on your alerts.
When and if we do get really big
is they will try to take me down
because of my messages,
but unfortunately they're all to guys.
So that's the thing
is the craziest messages I've sent and received
have been to guys.
I mean, cuz, do you know how many times I've opened up my DMs
and it's been a guy's open spread asshole or his dick and balls?
I mean, there was a guy that wrote Christy D on his shaft.
I mean, what am I supposed to do with that?
Well, because, you know, you joke around a lot about being gay.
The gay guys, they're just, you got to give them credit for trying.
They're going like, let me take a swing here.
Maybe it's true or if not, I can push him over the fence.
Guys, and listen,
also, all our gay fans out there,
please stop messaging
specifically at
LongfellowDeeps31
pictures of your beef.
Please stop doing that
because he's starting to say
cuz every time I open up my phone,
I'm fucking at JetBlue
trying to throw the bags
and I gotta look at
someone's cock in my phone.
Yeah, we don't want to scare away
Debra from Squeak of the Week
on Wednesday,
so please, guys,
take it easy.
He's a kid from Ridgewood.
He can't deal with that.
And this is what I want to say.
I always say, you know, tell your friends.
Tell your friends.
That's how we market.
But now, after recent events, I want to say,
tell your friends if you feel like they're cool.
You know?
Just tell your cool friends.
The ones that you think could take a joke,
let those friends know about our podcast.
Everyone else who's a little uptight,
tell them there's some other podcasts in San Francisco
that they'll love.
Yeah, that they'll fucking love.
It's not going to be us,
but tonight we're going all the way to San Francisco
in spirit for one of the most,
I would say, V, would you call him?
Wow.
He goes by him.
RuPaul, that's his pronoun,
as maybe the most influential drag queen of all time.
I would say, yeah!
I think it's between RuPaul and Marisa Rodriguez.
I think it's between RuPaul and Marisa.
Because you know what's so fascinating about this and about the world we live in?
It's 1,000% I can guarantee you RuPaul knows exactly who you are because of Marisa.
100% RuPaul knows who you are because the character is beloved by the trans community.
Yes.
You know, it's interesting. Marisa, 100% RuPaul knows who you are because the character is beloved by the trans community. Yes.
You know, it's interesting.
And it's interesting the world we live in, how in 2011, Marisa comes out and is such a hit and it's all beloved.
And only the past couple of years has not, and very, very little, anybody had a problem with it.
Nobody.
Almost nobody.
Almost zero.
But it was fully zero for five, six years.
Fully zero.
Almost ever.
I mean, I've gotten next to none, maybe one or two throughout.
It's been nine years.
And those have probably been Chris the teacher in disguise.
Yeah, probably.
The thing about Marisa is it's actually Marisa's performed at drag shows all the time.
I get videos of drag performers doing more like in the middle of their songs because they do like these edited.
When you go to like a drag show, they do like these edited like lip singing.
Here's the thing. I just gonna be honest um i got a gay brother and i support the trans
community so i'm gonna say this but um when you go to fire island and you go to uh gay entertainment
it's fucking bad it's just lip singing it's fucking bad one of the you guys like bad music
madonna sucks and drag queens i mean it's fucking yas queen that like bad music. Madonna sucks.
And drag queens, I mean, it's fucking Yas Queen that a guy's pulling that off.
But it's fucking lip singing.
They're singing somebody else's song.
One of the saddest moments of my entire life.
Sorry, V. I got to be honest.
V is not here for that.
Mikey, what camera am I supposed to be looking into?
That one?
Oh, I'm sorry.
Because one of the fucking things I said right to the i was talking
to your island um i uh one of the saddest moments of my whole life is when i was it was i had the
pleasure of being invited uh being part of the wedding ceremony of mr and mrs poppins nuptials
and i was strutting my ass out at the bar poking my ass out for yannis's three dollar bill brother
to see and he walked past me
he gave me the coldest fucking snub of all time all i wanted to do is be sexually attracted to
your gay brother and it didn't happen and i fucking got really sad and i hit that venetian
hour hard yeah i mean look it's what it is you're just you're you're you're lower class than he's
not his type you're not his type you're just not into it. He likes a class of guy.
Yeah.
Listen, and I just also want to shout out Rudy's Bakery.
And also, cuz, you come with, let's just be honest, you come with baggage.
You show up to the airport of somebody's life, you're carrying a couple of fucking carry-ons.
Cuz, it's what it is.
Yeah.
A guy like Debo has a fucking long day with me, cuz I come with carry-on luggage.
Cuz, make no mistake mistake if you yeah wherever
you show up cuz you're gonna get charged an extra 25 because you only have one bag you can check and
you got three more that you got to get on the flight yeah cuz it's what it is yeah everywhere
i go there's a puerto rican flag following me so what can you do yo i just want to shout out
rudy's bakery in ridgewood queens if you're ever in rude if you're ever in ridgewood uh queens
brooklyn area new york city area, check out Rudy's Bakery.
I was in there yesterday and some hipster
woman came in and
I dropped my mother off
after Father's Day. We celebrated.
Dropped over to Ridgewood. I went to Rudy's
and some woman comes into the bakery,
an older hipster lady,
and she goes,
do any of these
croissants over here, do they have butter? And the woman, Toni, who's the best, who's owned Rudy's for 30 years, she goes, I just want to know, do any of these croissants over here, do they have butter?
And the woman, Toni, who's the best, who's owned Rudy's for 30 years, she goes, we wouldn't be open for 81 fucking years if they didn't have butter, lady.
And then the lady walked out, and I just want to say thank you to Toni.
Yeah, I mean, that's why it tastes good.
I mean, what are we going to pretend like things don't taste good because they have that butter?
I mean, who goes into a fucking bakery and asks if the things in the shelves have butter?
I mean, are you stupid?
I mean, how do you think France became a country?
They became a country because they used butter in their food.
I don't even think France would be a country if they didn't use butter.
They put butter in everything.
Now, let me ask you a question.
Ask me a question.
Ask you a question.
I don't have to respond to ask.
My pronoun, the only way I respond, what if I started identifying as a guy who only responded
to people who asked me questions, not asked? Ask. Don't give me that FF ask. The only way I respond, what if I started identifying as a guy who only responded to
people who asked me questions, not asked.
Don't give me that FF ask.
I want you to ask me it.
So let me ask you, so you celebrated Father's Day out on Long Island with your wife's family.
Yes, I'm a $3 bill.
With your wife's family on an in-ground pool, and it was a beautiful day, and you had barbecues,
and you guys talked about politics, and that can only be described as a white Father's Day.
So how was it?
How did you feel?
Do you feel racist for having such a white Father's Day?
You know, the fun thing about Long Island, New York, if you're listening to this because we have fans all over the world, we appreciate all of you.
Tell friends if they're cool and all over the world. We appreciate all of you. Tell friends if they're cool. And all over the country.
Long Island, New York is one of those places
that is a place unto itself.
It's unchanging.
It doesn't change with the times.
It has a unique culture.
People don't leave the island.
No matter what's going on in the world,
Long Island is Long Island.
I mean, I was, you know, I'm in a pool
just fucking floating around, paddling around
as if the world's not on fire right now.
That's Long Island.
The difference between us is just the difference because it's baggage is you were in a beautiful in-ground pool having the time of your life.
And my daughter was in a pool that I bought from fucking Seatown last week in the backyard in Bay Ridge.
So, I mean, what can you do?
But we both – listen, we had a good time.
Father's Day is great.
Happy Father's Day, by the way.
Thank you, baby.
Thank you.
Am I a father yet technically?
What do you do?
I was hesitant because when I wished your wife a happy Mother's Day, she told me that
I put a fucking kukula curse on her, whatever.
She was yelling at me in Greek.
She was saying that you're not allowed to wish an expected mother a happy Mother's Day.
It's bad luck.
It's this and that.
So I got scared.
I didn't know to wish you a happy Father's Day, but I just let it rip and said it.
And I hope that Mrs. Pappas isn't upset about that.
I hope I didn't jinx anything.
No, I don't think you did.
I don't think you did.
And I agree with you.
And her father said, you know what?
Happy Father's Day to me, too,
because if you got a healthy baby in there,
then that means I'm, for all intents and purposes, a father.
Yeah.
Plus, I have a dog.
Yes.
You do have a dog?
What's the Upper West Side?
How do they rule on that?
I definitely wish you a happy Father's Day.
Oh.
Because you're a father to a dog.
Yeah.
And that's what you're expecting.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Expecting.
So, yeah.
And I think it's great.
And, yeah, I mean, Father's Day, you know, COVID-19, Father's Day.
Normally, me and my dad, we go to Yankee games or we watch the Yanks.
But, you know, there was no baseball.
I tried to put on Korean baseball for him, and my dad was just like, no, couldn't do it.
I almost felt bad about celebrating Father's Day during Pride Month.
It's like, I mean, can we get rid of, look, if we're going to rip down George Washington,
can we also rip down some of these patriarchal nuclear family fucking holidays?
Yeah.
I mean, that's so fucking yeah or even 1777 to even call
someone father or celebrate them what are we celebrating exactly what are we celebrating
right a dad yeah you know what dads did they created a patriarchy you know what that patriarchy
did okay it oppressed people so let's fucking get rid of it i want to send my kid to a school
that teaches that kid how to hate America
and hate the father who pays for that school.
Yeah, that's great.
That's the same with me.
Yeah, I mean, what can you do?
But that's why I'm so excited to do an episode today about RuPaul.
Because should I have a sex change just so my daughter has two moms and no dad?
Because you know how Serena Williams' husband has recused himself
off the board
of his own company
that he started
to make room
for an African American person
so he could tell his daughter
he did something
during this time.
Yeah.
Should I just sex change out
to get rid of the patriarchy
for my daughter?
Yeah, I think, yeah,
just sex change out
or I think, yeah,
or just,
or it'd be funny
like when your daughter's
about four years old
to just show her Marisa videos
and just say,
guess who that is? Is that mom or is that daddy? Yeah, it's, you know, it's good. your daughter's about four years old to just show her Marisa videos and just say, guess who that is?
Is that mom or is that daddy?
Yeah.
You know, my daughter's going to have bring your parents.
What is that?
Bring your parents to work day?
Where they come and talk about what they do.
Or career day, yeah.
Yeah.
So mine's the only one that's going to need a little work it girl music.
Yeah.
And a little light show.
Yeah.
Because all the other guys are going to come and be like, hey, I'm a banker or whatever.
We're going to be living in the future
so one of them is going to be
a hipster father
who's going to be like,
you know what?
I make vegan butter on my rooftop.
That's going to be his job.
How do you make money?
It's like we don't really make money.
Money is such a thing
in the patriarchy or whatever.
Then it's my turn is going to come
and I'm going to be like,
hit it.
You better work
and the lights are going to go out
and I'm going to go,
what's up, kids?
How you doing?
I'm her daddy. I'm her daddy.
Yeah.
I'm her father.
What are you doing?
That's it.
I'm Mr. Pappas, and this is what I do for a living.
I go to stage with a dress, and I talk about rigorosity, and that's it.
And that's it.
Yeah, because, no, that's why RuPaul is such a fascinating person to talk about today.
Listen, because RuPaul, whose real name is RuPaul, by the way.
Would you jerk into RuPaul? Let's find is RuPaul, by the way. Would you jerk it to RuPaul?
Let's find out.
Let me tell you something.
If I never saw, would you jerk it to RuPaul?
As a guy.
You mean would I jerk it to RuPaul again?
Because I already have. I've been alive since
84. So which one of those two
are you more into?
Because if I never saw the bottom one,
I definitely get a blowy
from RuPaul and drag.
Well, RuPaul, RuPaul...
RuPaul is himself
kind of a buzzkill.
Well, it's funny
because RuPaul as a guy
looks like our good comedian
friend of the show,
Reese Waters.
And then RuPaul as a girl
looks like Barbara Walters.
So it's just tough.
Now, if you don't know
who he's referring to,
just go to instagram
go to reese waters if you knew reese waters that is a 10 out of 10 yeah and reese waters reese
waters great guy dc comic we'd love to have him on the show um hope you're doing well um but yeah
rupal andre charles because he's six four he's a tall tall glass water. He's a big glass of water. Let me tell you something. Six-four, that's a big woman who you call he.
That's a girl with a big cock.
Now, V, thank God we have fucking Woken Dope V here to help us.
So, question, question.
When RuPaul is dressed in drag on Drag Race,
is he still referred to as he?
Because his preferred pronoun is he.
And say it loud and proud because you don't have a microphone
and also because it's fucking pride.
Yeah.
Well, he goes on RuPaul.
Well, on the show, he's referred to as a she and he.
He doesn't have a preferred pronoun.
He doesn't have a preferred pronoun.
No.
But I thought he preferred he.
I mean, in the documentary we were watching, they called him he.
Yes, he's he, and sometimes he's referred to as she.
Okay, but he doesn't care.
He doesn't get uptight about it.
He doesn't care.
RuPaul doesn't care.
RuPaul is just one of those people.
He's like, I'm a human being.
Call me he.
Call me she.
RuPaul's famous quote is, one of RuPaul's famous quotes is,
can you scroll down a little bit, V, so I can just find that thing where it's just,
because it's hilarious.
I love it. He said, we're all down a little bit, V, so I can just find that thing where it's just, because it's hilarious. I love it.
He said, we're all born naked, right?
No, not that one.
That one we're going to, yeah, but go down just a little.
You better fucking snap when you read it.
Go up.
Oh, there we go.
Yes, snap through it.
He said, you can call me he, you can call me she,
you can call me Regis and Kathie Lee.
I don't care.
Just as long as you call me.
Cur. I like that cur. Cur as long as you call me. Kerr.
I like that.
Kerr.
Because being gay is fucking fun.
Here's the thing.
If you're gay, you're lucky you're liberated.
You're liberated from these fucking straight goddamn limits.
Fucking love it.
I mean, the best fucking Instagram pages, my friends who have the best Instagram pages,
Mateo Lane, Mr. P Joey P Joey Kamasta
I mean these gay pages they're so
fucking funny full of life I
love it I if listen if
I if there wasn't
Corona this year I would
100% be going
to the pride parade I've went the last three years
and it's fun fun fun fun fun
I learned my lesson I will go with goggles
this time because make no mistake,
for some reason,
I always leave that parade with pink eye
because I'm getting cocks to the face.
What can you do?
They're spraying, but it's beautiful.
I love it.
I mean, some of the best,
one of the best dates I ever went on
was one and done date.
She didn't want to date me.
She didn't want to go on any more dates with me after this,
but we went on one date.
This is four or five years ago.
We went to the Stonewall Inn in the West Village,
which is the most famous gay bar probably in the country,
and it was just so great to go to a gay bar
and kind of just feel what it is
to feel like a girl a little bit,
but I think because I was enjoying the attention so much,
the girl left.
I mean, she just got an Uber and left.
It was one of those things where she said,
I'm going to go to the bathroom
and then I never saw her again.
She made a mistake.
Was that her idea to bring you there?
It was.
I mean, what a stupid,
that's a stupid move.
Yeah.
That's like walking into a bear den
and being like,
hey, I got a jar of honey.
Yeah.
Yeah, because you're a hot hunk.
I'm a fucking hunk.
But what,
I got to know,
you know what it is?
You guys want to glue you down.
I got a hot head.
It's just my head.
Yeah.
Everything else is just kind of falls apart, even though I've been getting shredded, getting
shredded in the shed.
Venmo Jasmine Cadualis to get jacked.
Yeah.
But yeah.
So, yeah, no.
And by that, you're talking about the weather girl, right?
The weather girl.
The weather girl.
Weather girl. Absolutely. The weather girl. Her name is the weather girl. Yeah. Yeah. So by that, you're talking about the weather girl, right? The weather girl. The weather girl. Weather girl.
Absolutely, the weather girl.
Her name is the weather girl.
Yeah.
Yep.
And she's great, and it's all beautiful, and I've been exercising a lot in shed, so it's
all good.
You look good.
You think so?
Yeah.
See, I don't feel good because I had a bagel today.
I mean, it doesn't matter because everyone appreciates and just embraces your energy.
Your energy is just 100% chaos.
I'm one of, yeah, Chrissy chaos.
Since quarantine's happened, it's been, Steel Pipe Chrissy has hibernated for the winter like a bear.
Yeah.
And Chrissy chaos is out to play.
Yeah, because I put down payments on houses in New Jersey, Connecticut, Florida.
It doesn't matter.
I'm just putting down payments on houses.
Yeah, because, yeah.
Yeah, I mean, my mom,
yeah, it's chaos energy
and my mom's afraid again.
Yeah, it's what it is.
It's just what's going on.
Here's the deal.
I mean, what can you do?
We're having a good time.
Having a good time.
We're fucking untethered.
We're untethered.
We're untethered.
It feels good to get rid
of the truffle pig too.
Also, here's the thing.
We're only really here
for a couple of decades.
Yeah.
So everyone's just got to relax.
At tops, we're only, I mean, even Binky Mike, even Muffet Chops.
Yeah.
He's 27, but I mean, the kid's not going to live past 55.
And by the way.
I mean, his body's not built.
I mean, once a kid has a sip of fucking alcohol, his genes are telling his liver to give out.
He's come from a long line of alcoholics.
Yeah.
We're all going to die soon, guys. We're all going to die soon, guys.
We're all going to die soon.
And by the way, Dr. Andrew Agos,
probably he's going to be one who does it to any of our fans
at patreon.com slash bayridgeboys to bring to the hyena.
Can you please make a meme of Mikey Muffin Chops
and have muffins on the side of his head?
I just want, because it's Muffin Chops.
Yanni says Muffin Chops, and it's staying as Muffin Chops.
It's sticking there because reality is a suggestion.
We do what we want.
We identify who we want.
Today, we're two drag girls
talking to you about drag.
Now, we're going to do this in two parts.
First, we're going to give you
a little history of RuPaul himself.
Yes.
Yes.
And then we're going to give you
a little drag fucking culture history.
Okay.
We're going to do a little bit of both
so you understand a little bit of both,
but make no mistake,
RuPaul's bigger than life.
He and she or her is bigger than the whole drag world.
RuPaul is bigger than the cock he has.
Would you say RuPaul's kind of like...
You think RuPaul's circumcised if we had to guess in the room?
What do you say?
Circumcised, yes or no?
Whatever it is.
Just one word, yes or no?
Yes.
V?
No.
Mutton?
No. Wow. know whatever it is one word yes or no yes v no mutton no wow he's saying that from experience from the darker shades of penis she's seen well i haven't she said no quick i said i said yes
because i have no idea what black guys do v knew v knew right away she's went absolutely not yeah
they're not cut no i i uh yeah i know Chris, you can pretend like you don't know.
Yeah, I was going to say, I've had a few interactions with RuPaul in the DMs, and I could say he
is circumcised.
Because you've DMed with Boy George.
No, I've texted with Boy George.
I had the pleasure of doing the nightly show with Larry Wilmore a few years ago.
Snoozer.
Snoozy woozy.
Jordan Carlos is looking for work.
What can you do?
We all are.
We all are.
I love Jordan Carlos.
Absolutely.
I love Jordan Carlos.
Yeah.
And so I was on with Boy George and Cam'ron, the rapper Cam'ron.
And Boy George and I just kind of hit it off in the green room.
And then we just exchanged numbers and we texted a little bit.
And then he just ghosted me.
So it's just what it is. The thing is when when he goes to you like you just stopped texting back one day
right and we were talking about like you know he's gonna he was like in new york he's gonna
come to the show it's like it'll be fun to hang with boy george and then he just stopped texting
me so i mean what can you do you really want to hurt me yeah do you really want to make me cry
what yeah now is he still, is Boy George,
come a, come a, come a chameleon.
Is that George Michaels or Boy George?
No, that's Boy George.
Yeah, that's a Ridgewood kid.
You're struggling to keep up with this gay culture.
Yeah.
It's hard for me to tell.
I always confuse Boy George, George Michaels,
and George Jefferson.
Here's the thing,
because after this fucking episode,
don't worry about it.
I'm going to toss you a fucking basketball.
We'll dribble a few times
and we'll get rid of all this gay shit.
Yeah, yeah. I got to go do some fucking sit-ups or something.
No, Boy George
did those songs. He's still performing as Boy George.
Drag culture, we learned a lot.
V made sure we learned this episode.
Yeah. She said it's important
for the culture that you learn.
She wanted us to really know.
My hair's moving again. Yeah, your hair's fucking moving.
That's how I know you're Chrissy Chaos
Cause since quarantine
It's
I mean I'm fucking wild
I got back with my baby's mama
Yeah
More than that
Cause
Chrissy Chaos is out to play
Yay
I got my house on the market
It's a stupid move
Cause we are definitely
Yanni Longdays and Chrissy Chaos
Just let me ask you a question
Let me ask you a question.
Ask it to me.
I only identify someone who responds to asks.
When I put my house on the market and it gets sold
and that thing's blowing up in my face again,
can I sleep on this couch?
You can't sleep on this couch.
Even though it's in the studio?
We can't.
You can't.
Yeah, yeah.
All right, thank you.
Yeah, because, I mean,
you've been having a pretty consistent life,
so you might be chaos on the inside,
but on the outside,
you just look like a
regular like you're having a regular domestic life but on the inside you're probably fucking
going wild your inner spirit's probably kicking around like a baby after eight months yeah it's
what it is you want to get out yeah cuz yeah mrs poppers is pregnant so am i yeah yeah it's what
it is what can you do but listen tell talk the people. If there's anyone who can teach people about drag culture, it's you.
Go.
It's time to learn.
So first of all, I want to talk about what drag queen actually means, where that word drag comes from.
It actually comes from back in the 20th century when all the – because it was very – women would not play their own parts.
It would be a man dressed up as a woman to play the role.
Patriarchy bullshit.
But because their costumes would normally, and dresses would drag on the floor,
that's where the word drag comes from.
Drag queen.
So, you know, and it's a thing that's been around a long time.
I mean, I think, what, even in Shakespeare times,
you had men dressing up as women to play the parts.
Right.
Women were not allowed to perform in the arts.
So yeah, these men would put on these costumes.
And women's clothes just tends to drag on the floor.
Yeah.
It's what it is.
I've a couple of times put on girlfriends the muumuu dresses.
I've just put on those muumuu dresses.
And they fucking feel fun and free-flowing, but they do drag on the floor a little bit yeah i mean
scottish kids just wear wear dresses yeah they just come out with kilts with no undies i mean
their their their soldiers used to wear dresses i mean in war i mean there's a 100 guarantee if
you fought a war with a scottish clan in the 1600s before you died you were getting t-bagged it's
just what it was that's maybe you were gonna get nuts on that helmet one way or another.
Yeah, and it was also like a good strategy because imagine you're an invading army.
Let's imagine you're the invading Brits or the invading Romans, right?
And you're going to Scotland.
Because I hate that you're saying invading.
Just say invading.
Stop making it two syllables.
You're in New York.
You know, say you're an invading army and you're coming to Scotland and you're coming
to invade and you look over the hill and you see what looks like 500 ladies.
Yeah.
You're not going to get like all prepped up ready to war.
You're going to be like, let's go talk to these ladies.
You're going to march up next to, you know, it's fucking dudes in skirts.
Yeah.
And you're getting teabagged.
It's chicks with dicks.
It's a good fucking strategy.
Well, you know what's interesting is why I'm also so excited to talk about RuPaul and the drag queen community and also the transgender community and all that is because the history of hyenas, hyena is the original chick with a dick.
It is.
It's a transgender animal.
The female's got a pseudo penis.
So it kind of fits who Giannis and I are is because we are absolutely sexually confused people.
Yeah, and hyena is just, we've always said,
is the most fascinating animal
because the women are in charge, and they're fierce.
And when we say fierce, we don't mean like work-a-girl fierce.
They will eat you alive and pulverize your bone.
Yeah, we mean that they pulverize bones.
They have the strongest bite.
Hyena has the strongest bite in the animal kingdom,
and they give birth through penises,
and sometimes the penises explode and they die so it's just what it is the hyena ladies act a lot like guys yeah they just act like guys like guys yeah they like to kill and fight like yeah
it's like you know ladies it's like yeah i know it's hard to push your baby out of your vagina
try pushing one out of your penis and that's basically what hyenas do they give birth out of their pseudopedises
yeah i mean the chicks are so they're such chick with dicks cuz that they their vaginas are at the
tip of their dicks yeah now listen the increasing popularity of speakeasies where drag was welcomed
during prohibition so in prohibition it was big big big uh thing and of course like 1920s 1930s
um speakeasies had it and it was called the pansy craze so the
pansy craze and make no mistake my father has called me a pansy 1 000 times so that's where i
guess the pejorative pansy comes from yeah like you're a pansy ass because the pansy craze i don't
know where pansy actually comes from um but interestingly enough because the thing is with
new york city we're vet we are always first in most things and
it like these little you know you watch tv shows and it's like even like a great show like the
sopranos right you're saying like oh they were first and kind of making like a member of the
mafia gay and do that but they all steal shit from real life because in 1966 a member of the
genevese crime family purchased the stonewall inn where i told you i took a girl on a date and she
left because i was having too much fun with the boys um in manhattan's granite's village which then
became the hub of the gay culture and you know the riots of 1969 civil rights rights and all that
which we've done an episode about the history of yas check out our episode the history of yas
yeah we talked about marsha p henson and and we talked a little about the stonewall riots he's
given it the kind of uh but the jenna vvese crime family kind of was the first ones to push drag shows forward.
Yeah.
The Mafia kids.
Well, you know, Mafia kids were always in the cash business of nightclubs.
So that was just back in the day where they just owned the club and they didn't care what
was going on that night.
Yeah.
They're like, whatever's making money.
You know they dropped a couple of F-bombs in the back rooms when they were counting cash.
Now, cash.
Now, let me ask you this.
What do we got tonight? It's F-night.
What are the chances?
No, he would say, they would say this. They would
always put, like Colin Quinn's got the great joke.
The joke is not in the
offensive word. It's in the
denomination. It's in the numerical
value that you're given. So they would say, yeah, we got a couple
of F-bombs in here. So they would say
that. So
what do you think, though, in 1966, when the Genovese crime family bought the Stonewall Lane,
what do you think the chances are that a couple of these mafioso guys took some of these cross-dressing drag queens
and made them their gumades?
How many gumades were actually cross-dressing guys?
I'm going to say probably 50%.
Seriously, right?
I'm going to say 50%, yeah.
Yeah.
Because there comes a point when you're so...
It's kind of how funny this simulation
is. Right. There comes a point when you get
so high up, you come back
down around to the other side. Right.
It's very limited. So, as you can tell
in jail and things like that, when guys get super
super masculine, like the top
of masculinity ends up coming
back around to gay. Like John Travolta.
Like John Travolta, like ancient Greece, like jail.
Right.
Jail.
The guys who are doing the banging, like if you're getting banged out, it's by a dude
who's like as dude as you can get.
Now, let me ask you this.
If you ever had to go to jail, God forbid.
Being treated like a lady in jail means you're dealing with a man.
If you ever had to go to jail, God forbid, to avoid the rapes, would you just go in there
and fuck somebody in the ass?
Would you just take the precedent and just say, i'm the one banging you because here's here's
the situation if me or you ever went to jail yeah i mean we are instantly three dollar bills yeah
we are walking in and our pronouns are being given to us yeah and those pronouns are not
masculine it's just what it is yeah we we walk in, somebody's going to say immediately welcome ladies.
Yeah, it's just what it is. And we're just going to assume
the position and we are going to
be somebody's bitch for the remainder
of our term. It's just what
it is. There's no way me and you are fucking anybody
because we don't have the upper body strength.
It's what it is. Now V is pulled up the movie Dog Day
Afternoon. Why do we pull that up? Are you
doodling?
You said about the mafia and this is
actually a true story about
what Dog Day Afternoon was based on
because his wife wanted
a sex change.
They met in New York and they wanted a
sex change and he didn't have money for it.
Can they hear
V off camera at all, Mike?
We can hear you.
Can you go back to the notes?
Thanks for letting me know that there were
notes there.
Can you scroll back up to my
memory?
We're going to cover
drag culture first, and then we're going to get into RuPaul
because RuPaul... I would say
RuPaul is the Babe Ruth of
drag culture. She made it
mainstream, baby. Just the way Babe Ruth made baseball culture. She made it mainstream, baby.
Just the way Babe Ruth made baseball baseball.
Well, let me ask you this because it's very interesting because obviously,
because the same way that when you do Marisa, it's essentially a character piece.
It's not really you.
These guys could say it's just a character piece.
So in many ways, seriously, you are, for all prospective purposes, a drag queen
because you've dressed up like a woman so much that you're a drag queen.
So let me ask you, do you feel better sitting as a guy or do you feel more comfortable as a girl?
They're both fun for different reasons.
Character pieces are always fun because you can think like somebody else, which is fun.
Right.
you can think like somebody else,
which is fun.
Right.
And so,
but she's a lot funner,
I think,
than,
because,
it's just not that she's a transgendered character
that it makes it fun.
I think it's her personality
that makes her fun.
She's a rigorous chick,
you know what I mean?
Do you feel,
are the DMs for the
Marisa Rodriguez.zip page
fucking lit?
They do light up.
But you know know the thing
is i also get the it's not it's not as liberating as you think it's more because her the character
is is sassy like that the character is rigorous but actually like being a feat like when i get
into that female brain kind of stuff and trying to think of like what women think is funny and
things like that it's like it is kind of a it's not as liberating as you think because women got
to think about looks and shit all the time.
Being a guy is actually more liberating.
Right.
Because when you're a guy, you just wake up, like you fart, you don't give a fuck, you go meet your boy, your hair is not combed.
Yeah.
Women have to go through this mental checklist before they live to have, like I love watching my wife.
It's like a mental checklist that they have to go off before they even decide to see anyone.
It's like, what is my, do I have, before they even decide to see anyone. Right. It's like, what is my...
I got to at least put eye makeup on.
Listen.
If you're not going to do your hair, you fucking pull it back in a bun.
I mean, do you think this kid, Professor Muffin Chops, has ever thought for one second how he looks when he goes and meets his friends?
Not a fucking chance.
I mean...
No way.
I mean, because the kid looks like he was reanimated out of the Civil War.
Yeah.
He looks like he's wearing what he slept in.
Yeah, he's got pubes on his face.
Yeah, but Venetia, she actually had the thoughts coming over here.
And I think that's why Maurice is so funny.
It's because I've always been, women are beautiful to me,
and I'm fascinated by the way they think.
And you're scared of them.
And I'm scared of them.
But not anymore so much.
But anyway, women, it's just funny.
They think.
Women think it's everything. They're thinking everything. Like, what am I looking like? Okay, I'm going of them But not anymore so much But anyway Women it's just funny They think Women think
It's everything
They're thinking everything
Like is this
What am I looking like
Okay I'm gonna be biking
Oh my god I'm gonna stink
So then Vanity went
And she brought some spray
Which I smelled
When she brought out
Cause everything is calculated
If I go to your house
And take a shit
I'm not gonna be like
Oh I'm not gonna say
If I go to Chris' house
I ate before
So I may take a shit
So I should bring some potpourri
In case I shit Or another shirt in case I shit my pants.
I'm just going to shit my pants and shit your house.
One time, remember, you came over to my apartment.
You came over to my apartment, and you sat on the couch, and you had like a 5% clean ass.
And I had to call Stanley's fucking steamer service and get my couch professionally clean.
Because your fucking ass smelled like shit.
You didn't care, and I didn't care either.
I just fucking asked you to Venmo me 50 to split the cost.
Yeah, that's it. I mean, women, they planned that whole thing i mean veneti was going
like she in her brain she went and this is what i do as marisa i get up and that's what the ladies
love it because they know that i'm telling the truth i'm trying to do a venetian when she left
today she said oh shit look i'm going to bike down there because like i was going to take the car
that had air conditioning i would have a totally different outfit if i had air conditioning i can't
do it because dimitri taking the car so what i gotta do all right i gotta save a little money because i don't know if they're gonna cover
my cab i'm going to bring it up in a right about way i'll do that later but anyway i'm going to
bike downtown and tell them i took the cab but they're going to make me sweaty so that means i'm
going to have to take another shirt because i'm not going to be sitting around with fucking sweat
stains on my shit then i'm also going to change in the bathroom and bring some poperitos press on me
so they don't smell my body odor she had to have all this mental fucking thing just to come here you know what i did cuz i fucking wiped my
ass and threw my shorts on and got in the car that's what it is same with me cuz same with me
i mean listen listen we've been doing wepa in the morning every day on patreon.com slash bay
ridge boys every monday to friday not one time has mrs popp Venetia, or my girl ever- The weather girl.
The weather girl ever even remotely come close to the screen.
Venetia's been Blackout Tuesday since fucking day one.
She was doing that way before the movement.
She had Blackout Tuesday on.
That's what the Zoom screen is always.
The weather girl, she'll yell, but she will not even come close to the camera.
And, I mean, Mrs. Pappas runs past the background of that camera like she's in Vietnam getting close to the camera and i mean mrs poppins runs past the background
of that camera like she's in vietnam getting out of the way of bombs i mean she will fucking sprint
and dive before she lets anybody see her without makeup on yeah it's just that's just it's a
different thing and you know so drag culture has evolved over years obviously it started
as uh you know guys playing female parts like chris said in shakespeare and eric etc and then
it was gay guys dressing up as women to perform.
Like I said, what I think is sometimes, I'm just going to be honest,
it's bad entertainment.
I don't want to see a lip singing contest.
But it's fun to watch guys dressed as women do that shit.
I get it.
It's not for me.
I guess I'm a straight guy.
Whatever.
But anyway, so the thing that RuPaul's Drag Race is about
is really what drag culture is, is how far a guy, they usually are gay, they don't have to be, dresses a woman with the makeup contours and the dresses, can actually like pull it off.
Right.
So you're looking at this guy going like, holy shit, this guy's in fucking eight inch heels.
He's working it.
He's dancing.
He's lip singing, whatever.
eight inch heels he's working it he's dancing he's lip singing whatever and so that's what drag culture is is guys um fulfilling themselves right as performances as women right right right
did i did i kind of get that right yeah and then in 1980s it was a real tightrope walk and the word
to what that's why it's black transgender lives matter yeah. Yeah. It was the famous phrase, yas.
That was the 1980s drag ball culture.
And I just want to let, because I don't know a lot of people know this,
but in LGBTQ plus context, drag is used as a way to explore gender.
Okay, so we got to know that.
It's a way to explore gender.
It's often understood as a breaking down of the limitations of masculinity and femininity.
So it's because a lot of people like, don't know can you say cross-dresser
is it transsexual
is it transvestite
all these different words
I just go LGBTQ plus
and whatever
and then you tell me
what you are
and that's how it is
yeah
and drag is most commonly
associated with gay men
dressing up
and embodying a larger
than life female
so that's
you know what
that's unfortunate
that a female can't go into drag as a male wait is that is that. So that's, you know what, that's unfortunate that a female
can't go into drag
as a male.
Wait, is that appropriation?
That's unfortunate.
Is that guy's appropriating
female culture?
Yeah, it could be.
Yes, it is
and it's fucking fierce
and awesome.
Yas!
Yeah.
I mean, that's where we get Yas.
Actually, Yas is from drag culture
when drag queens
would get up there
and start performing,
the audience would go, Yas, queen, Yas.
Because they were so moved by their lip sync.
Yas.
So what can you do?
I want to talk specifically about RuPaul.
I mean, cuz.
Now, RuPaul.
Because we fucking nailed drag culture.
I mean, you don't have to go to school.
Everything you need to know, we just fucking nailed it.
Drag culture.
Yeah, cuz.
Yeah, RuPaul, who's fucking the most famous drag queen of all time, who famously said the first dress he ever bought in Atlanta, Georgia,
only cost $3.
So what can you do?
I mean, the kid's a $3 bill.
He was born and raised in San Diego.
His mother taught him how to sew,
and he was inspired by her fashionable outfits.
Cuz the thing is, just like our good friend of the show,
Joey Camasta, when RuPaul and Joey Camasta came out of that mother's is just like our good friend of the show joey camasta when they when rupaul and uh joey camasta
came out of that mother's birthing canal the first words they said were either yachts or work they
were never in a million years going to be straight you would say you know joey probably said let me
get one thing straight it's not me so it's just what it is and that's the same thing what rupaul
said is that honey let me get one thing straight it ain't me yes so and that's that's the same thing what RuPaul said. He said, honey, let me get one thing straight. It ain't me. Yes. And that's one of those things where it's like, you know,
it's like because now there's all that talk about like,
are you born gay or not?
It's like, of course you are.
Yeah.
You know?
You can't look like Joey Comessa and then choose to have that type
of fashion show in your living room.
I mean, it's just what it is.
The main thing to remember, which is interesting about this, is drag queens are gay men who
identify for the most part.
Do you have to be gay to be drag?
No, you don't have to be.
But it tends to be that's who's interested in doing it.
That's good news.
Yeah, I mean, there's never really like straight guys who go like, you know what?
You know, I was into baseball till eighth grade.
And then, you know, ninth grade to 12th, I just really got into drag contests.
Yeah, the only straight guy I know who does drag is Giannis Popper.
That's the only one.
There's the guy sitting here to my right.
I'm the only one.
Yeah.
So it's guys who identify, for the most part, as gay men dressing up as women, and that's why RuPaul's Drag Race is a contest.
and that's why RuPaul's Drag Race is a contest.
And that's why RuPaul came out of controversy a little bit from the LGBTQ community
when he said,
look, you gotta be a man to do drag.
Like trans aren't drag queens.
Transgenders are actually women
because they see themselves as identifying as women
whereas drag queens are guys
who make up this display to look like women.
So there's a difference.
Came under fucking controversy
because there's a lot of gray zones in the gay community,
but ultimately everyone kissed and make up,
and hopefully we can have a gay solution to this country.
I would want to live in the world
where the first drag queen president of the United States is RuPaul.
I want RuPaul to come.
Were you allowed to say that while your dad's still alive?
Because it's, I know.
Well, yeah.
Did you just put him in the grave?
I mean, I was with him yesterday for Father's Day.
He's on the runway.
So he's getting close.
He's sitting in the plane in the air and he's just getting announcements from the pilot going, we're sixth in line.
Yeah, I mean, every single night he talks to a different black family
from the 1950s.
So I don't know what is happening, but it's just –
The kid's in his 70s, but he doesn't have one gray hair.
No, he looks young, young, young, and yeah, it's what it is.
But what I want to say, I forgot.
I don't know what I was going to say.
You were going to say something about how if you want to pick something up
in this world, it's going to cost you four, eight, 12 quarters.
12 quarters?
The kid's a 12-quarter role.
Well, no.
What RuPaul, you know, or what I'm saying about the president is, yeah, I want him to be the first president, first drag queen president because he'll just be the president and the first lady at the same time.
That's a great point.
Yeah, we wouldn't have to worry about, like, what is Melania thinking?
It's like, no, RuPaul's just, they're thinking at the same time. Yeah. Because it's all one, bitch.
That's a great point.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We should have a, yeah.
I mean, he could, when he came out, he came out as a drag.
So he can answer, on certain days he can answer as a guy, on certain days he can answer as a girl.
It's like Joe Biden's having all this trouble.
He's like, oh, I have to get a female vice president.
She has to be black.
It's like, there's no problems with RuPaul.
I'm the president and I got, I'm a female vice president and a male president.
I'm the fucking president
and the first lady.
Bitch, work.
Do you know how scary it is
that we are the most powerful country
in the world
for like another couple of minutes
or a month or so?
And that's actually
the most important criteria right now
for who's going to be vice president.
She has to be a person of color.
Is what she looks like in the gender.
I mean,
It's so stupid.
If you,
look,
it's hard to see,
the ancient Greeks have an old expression that look, it's hard to see.
Ancient Greeks have an old expression that says,
the camel can't see his own hump because you are the camel and you can't look back there.
Let me just be crystal clear for you for a second
because I'm a comedian
and I'll do it like Donny T just so you can understand.
Yeah, just do it like you're in Tulsa.
We are through.
Our empire is on the decline.
When you have presidential candidates
who are auditioning to be the most powerful person on
the planet saying the person who's going to fulfill this job is going to fulfill this job
under me if i die is going to take over and become the most powerful person it has to be certain
criterias based on their gender and their ethnicity that's the most important thing that's when you
know the reality of what made us great is over and now we are the show has begun yeah this is a show
now that was a segment brought to you by yanni long day snickers hungry why wait yeah we're
brought to you by cafe bustelu make no mistake yanni long day segments are going to be sponsored
by snickers because they used to have those commercials why wait snickers hungry why wait
and you're in for a long day we're in for a fucking long days because Yachty Long Days is out to play.
He's out to play.
Because I love RuPaul.
Me too.
I fucking love RuPaul.
So in the 1980s is when she came,
because make no mistake,
the kid RuPaul,
she came to New York City
and in the 80s she started-
He came to New York City.
No, but she said she doesn't matter.
RuRu doesn't matter.
She wouldn't give a shit.
Yeah, RuRu Baby doesn't matter.
In the mid 19801980s,
Roo-Baby left the South and headed to New York City and became part of a new festival
known as Wigstock.
And then Roo came to New York
and became that popular fixture in the nightclub
because the nightclubs in the 80s must
have been fun, fun, fun. Your brother, your
$3 bill brother was probably bopping around in the
1980s nightclub scene. He may have bumped into
Roo-Paul. Seriously. He might have. What I love about the gay community is how variegated it is. There'sopping around in the 1980s nightclub scene. He may have bumped into RuPaul. Seriously. He might have.
What I love about
the gay community
is how variegated it is.
There's so much
in the spectrum.
It's like when you're
a straight guy,
it's kind of boring.
We're just kind of
straight guys.
Some of us read
and some of us don't.
Some of us like sports
a little more.
When you go to a gay club,
it's like you're going
to see bears.
You're going to see cubs.
You're going to see twinks.
You're going to see Tim Dillon.
You don't know what's coming at you. You're going to see Chrissy D. You're going to see drag queens. You're going to see Twinks. Yeah. You're going to see Tim Dillon. You don't know what's coming.
You're going to see Chrissy D.
Yeah.
You're going to see drag queens.
Yeah.
You're going to see transgenders.
You're going to see bull dykes.
Yeah.
You're going to see lipstick lesbians.
Yeah.
I mean, the list goes on and on.
You're going to see little cute Taiwanese guys.
Yeah.
You're going to see the whole gamut.
I mean, because the gay world is really a Vegas buffet of what's possible.
Yeah, there's so many options. When you pull
down somebody's pants in a gay club, you don't know what's
popping out. It's a spin the wheel.
There's so
many
levels on the spectrum
because it's so vibrant
and fun.
It's appropriate that the flag
is the rainbow. They should add colors to it.
100%.
I agree.
Because guess what?
That kid Takayashi, 96.7, he fucking stole their shit.
I know.
I mean, Takashi, 90.00.
I mean, that kid's got, he took the rainbow flag.
That's the gay flag.
Yeah.
And now that kid's performing rap and talking about bitches.
That's not right.
It's not right.
I'm not an advocate for the gay community, but that's not fucking right.
That's not right.
I think he should be leading the gay pride parade from now on.
So kids are squeak.
Kids are squeak.
Yeah, we're going to make Debo give him squeak of the week.
Because I would fucking, a boxing match between Tekashi 6ix9ine and Debo?
Sign me up.
Because the kid grew up in Ridgewood Bushwick.
He did?
Tekashi 6ix9ine.
Yeah, he grew up about four or five blocks away from me.
Yeah, he's a fucking squeak.
So in 1993, RuPaul recorded the Dance House album,
Supermodel of the World.
The dance album was called Supermodel of the World.
Work it, girl.
Work.
And it was released through the rap label Tommy Boy,
spawning the dance track hit.
You may have heard this on Weppa in the Morning,
every day at patreon.com slash bayridgeboys.
The hit was called you better work turn
to the left turn to the right do your let's play it on the runway work it girl do your thing on the
runway Turn to the right.
Work.
Sashay.
Shantay.
Work.
I mean, because it just makes you want to be fierce.
Wow, Sergio, she comes in this music video.
So this is what made RuPaul famous.
I remember in the 90s, you kids were too small,
but I remember RuPaul blast onto the
scene this was a massive hit right she's not even a recording artist she's not even really a musician
but this song was so fierce became such an anthem that she just skyrocketed to success and cult pop
culture fame she got a talk show on MTV yes she was interviewing big time celebrities. RuPaul was here. She has arrived.
Yeah.
Y'all.
Yes.
So she made her feature film debut in Spike Lee's Crooklyn.
Good movie, Spike Lee's Crooklyn.
She had her talk show, variety show on VH1 in 1996.
It went through 98.
But then she really popped.
I mean, really fucking popped for our new fans in 2009 with the debut of the long running
reality TV competition,
RuPaul's Drag Race, which I was a fan of.
Yeah, here's the thing about-
I tried to get in.
RuPaul skyrocketed in the 90s.
Make no mistake, she was on the cover of magazines and stuff.
She skyrocketed in the 90s.
Then there was this plateau period.
She put out a couple more albums.
They didn't do as great, even though one of the songs hit the charts.
She was making music.
I mean, she did like three albums.
A girl can't sing.
She can't play. In America, you can be anything you want to be somebody just made her a musician and she's a musician this is america joe rogan one of the
greatest uh podcasters um of all time andrew schultz is the biggest black podcast in the
country i mean roop i mean spotify fucking gave joe rogan a 100 million dollar deal for doing a
one of the longest podcasts.
He's been doing podcasts 12 years.
Been a famous guy for doing exactly that medium for a long time.
And then just the next one they gave is to Kim Kardashian.
Just immediately the next $100 million deal on Spotify for a podcast is just Kimmy K.
Because nobody cares.
Nobody cares.
And you can do anything you want and be whoever you want.
So RuPaul was uh she was a singer
she put out a couple albums didn't really pop she kind of plateaued she but remember she skyrocketed
plateaued usually it's over at that point right for people to skyrocket twice it's like boom
rupaul's dragon because she also had that show on mtv that didn't work it failed yeah well the only
way that you're ever going to be able to skyrocket twice is you have to have one thing and one thing
only in your tank and that's sugar sugar in that tank you gotta have
sugar in that tank yes and then rupaul's drag race came back and bubba's it's been what 12 years
well how long has it been gone it's uh rupaul's drag race uh 2009 2000 11 years yeah 11 years
been on and in 2018 she became the first drag queen to receive a star on the hollywood
walk of fame yeah i mean she is massive we were sitting in la and rupaul without the makeup was
having breakfast rupaul as a you know because he's he dresses as a as a guy he's rupaul is in men's
clothing um when he when he when ru is not in in drag and me yanni p our friend don depeda and
fucking tim pokebow dylan were eating uh breakfast, and RuPaul was right there.
Yeah.
And it was great.
And I was trying to eavesdrop on Ru's conversation,
but I couldn't hear it because Tim was yelling about aliens.
Yeah, he was yelling about, yeah, whatever.
Give me more fucking gum.
I like the way he doesn't stop eating.
I gotta get out of here.
And then he's instructing you, eat that.
That's the best thing. And he's instruct you eat that that's
the best thing and he's always right yeah always trust a fat guy on food if you just and word to
the wise because i know i know the phases phase two phase three is starting to happen all across
the country you're going to see timmy dylan out at your restaurants if you're a waiter or waitress
right now do not even think about giving tim dylan a menu he's going to tell you what he wants if you
give him the menu he's fucking insulted yeah and he knows what he wants. If you give him the menu, he's fucking insulted. Yeah. He knows what he wants. He's looked at the menu.
Yeah, and he's also got quite a high standard for your service and food.
The kid comes from that, and his family, his grandfather,
his uncle owns a lot of restaurants.
The kid will not spare your feelings if the food's not good.
Yeah, we were on the other side of it.
You were not comfortable in that scenario.
I was not comfortable when Timmy ripped some restaurant in the city.
I mean, he ripped it
and then and then he was right and then he was right about every single thing he went to put
his hand down uh like behind me like because i guess i just you know give off that vibe like i'm
just a scared little girl so he just put his arm around me because he could tell i was scared and
then right behind me there was a shard of glass to cut his finger and that was the ice cream on
the cake i mean the kid fucking flip true story crazy. Now, Tim is one of those kind of old school gays where he doesn't get bent out of shape
if you think he's straight or say anything.
He's not sensitive or anything like that.
So, look, I understand gays have really been oppressed for a long time.
Absolutely.
They're out now.
It's great.
Drag culture is such a beautiful thing.
RuPaul is such a massive, massive star with RuPaul's Drag Race.
She's so big.
AOC was a judge on it recently.
By the way, AOC said that the reason why Trump didn't sell tickets is because TikTokers flooded buying the tickets.
So that's what they're saying.
That's why he wasn't sold out, Trump.
Oh.
So it was an AOC move?
They're saying it was an AOC move.
What was it, V?
Because V is like, do not talk about Queen AOC in the wrong context.
Yeah, no.
Like, I just want you to know that I love AOC.
I'm just preparing myself for her dictatorship and for when we go into left-wing programs.
Yeah, no, Greg.
I like AOC.
Make no mistake, that never ends good.
Yeah.
Make no mistake.
It never ends good.
I love AOC.
I love AOC as well.
But as soon as she gets Chuck Schumer out of his Senate seat, I'm moving to New Jersey.
So I'll go to the next state over.
No, I'm kidding.
The extremes have taken over.
What was wrong about AOC with the tickets and the Trump rally?
It was just like a secretive TikTok challenge that you would say, go buy the tickets and then delete it.
If that's true, that is hilarious.
That's what happened then.
That K-pop kids in Korea bought all the tickets to the Trump rally.
Yeah.
That is fucking funny, dude.
That's funny, funny, funny.
It's also amazing that that could happen in our lifetime.
Something like that could happen.
A big politician can have a...
A big politician.
I mean, he's the president of the United States.
He's bigger than a big politician.
a big politician can have a,
a big politician,
I mean, he's the president of the United States.
He's bigger than a big politician,
can have a rally and some kids can decide,
let's troll it by buying all these tickets.
They're over in,
K-pop's in Korea, right?
Yeah.
Well, I mean, look,
it's like the way,
like you can just digitally fuck with elections.
But I mean, election meddling has been a thing.
I mean, you know,
Boss Tweed in New York used to have dead people vote.
I mean, it's just different ways.
It's just whatever.
But to finish about drag queens, because RuPaul is a drag queen.
She's not transgender.
Transgender people have no, some transgender, many transgender people have no interest in
drag whatsoever.
Even some transgender people even say, such as India Willoughby, who'll get cracked open,
even dislike drag because they feel it wrongly implies being transgender
is just about dressing up when
really it is about living in authentic
gender identity. So just
FYI. Drag shows are guys
doing this amazing
thing of performing as these
larger-than-life female feminine characters
whereas transgenders live
as women, identify
as women, and actually transition
into women
by taking female hormones
and testosterone blockers
it's what it is
the only thing
that's not women about them
is they don't have
vagis
they don't got wombs
but everything else
is chemically
they start to become
very close to women
especially if they start
transitioning younger
well on 2nd Avenue
in the East Village
I don't know if you guys
remember V
I don't know if you
might be too young for this but there was a place called Lucky Chang's.
Do you remember Lucky Chang's?
I remember Lucky Chang's.
It was a transgender place.
I did a comedy show in the basement there once.
Yeah, I would go there with an ex-girlfriend of mine.
Our friends would go there.
We would go and hang out.
We would come from Ridgewood and go to Lucky Chang's because make no mistake, we were all fucking in the closet.
We would have a good time at Lucky Chang's.
You'd get a lap dance at the end.
It'd be fun, fun, fun.
I've never truly in my,
some of the best times
I've ever had in my life
is going out at Lucky Chang's
or hanging out
with my gay friends.
It's just,
they're always 100% energy,
positive, good, great.
They're fun.
The thing is that
they want to crack,
you never got uncomfortable
knowing that they wanted
to crack you wide open?
Well, I'm very naive
because you're the one
that's told me,
hey, some of your gay friends want to crack you open and i'm like why and they're
like well you have pictures of his open asshole on your phone that you hoarded i'm like yeah but
we're just friends i mean which one which guy who's not gay who hangs out with you is not going
to think about cracking you wide open i got a lot of gay friends just like i'm not just talking about
a little squeeze on a nut yeah open it up and eat what's inside the nut, a nutcracker.
I'm talking about fucking take pliers and crack you the fuck open.
Yeah, crack me.
Because you're a hunk.
I'm a hunk.
You're a fucking hunk.
And those kids, you think they're just ignoring it?
Joey Camasta wants, what did he say?
He wants you to treat his prostate with the same gusto you did when you did a rant one time.
Yeah, when I did it.
Yeah.
So that's Joey Gusto wants you to smash his asshole. Yeah, he wants you to smash his prostate with the same gusto you did when you did a rant one time. Yeah, when I did it. Yeah. So that's,
Joey Gusto wants you
to smash his asshole.
Yeah, he wants you
to smash his asshole.
Yeah, he says like,
wreck my guts.
What did he say?
It was funny.
It was something
that he commented in public.
Yeah, he said,
I want you to treat my prostate
with the same gusto
that you did that rant
or something like that.
And then he said,
he wants,
he has visions of you.
What he jerks off to
is you coming home
from a long day of work
and making you, making you you making him cook for you.
I mean, Joey's just the best.
He's a funny guy.
The best.
I mean, it's just great.
I mean, here he is just doing his little rendition of drag culture.
But again, Joey's not trans or drag.
No, he's a gay man.
Oh, yeah, look what I wrote.
What did I comment?
What did you comment on there?
I just put $3 bills.
Joey's a gay man.
Because gay guys, they appreciate, they love female stuff.
They love female performers.
And that's what drag is, is gay guys taking it to the next level.
Because dude, there's a whole art form to putting on that makeup, the contours,
hiding a lot of the masculinity to appear feminine
and the real talent.
And the judges judge based on how feminine you look
and perform knowing that when it's all off,
you're a guy.
RuPaul's got a great quote, by the way.
Yeah, let's end it on RuPaul's got a great quote, by the way.
Let's end it on RuPaul's quote.
There it is.
Yes.
Go ahead, Yanni. His quote is, we are all born naked, and the rest is drag, baby.
Very true.
As soon as you put clothes on, you're in drag.
We're in drag right now.
It may be a different kind of drag than what you're used to, but we in drag, boo-boo.
It's kind of like the modern form of what Shakespeare said.
The world's a stage, and we're all just playing a part.
Because we're all just dressing up for each other.
What's the true us?
What's the true you?
The true me?
The true you.
You're pretty close to the true you.
I'd say I'm pretty close to the true me.
I think the true me is a guy who is very comfortable with himself i think
uh getting turned on by men but you know sexually attracted to what does that mean you're turned on
by men you always fly by that yeah i mean what is that what does that mean let's let me see the text
what does that yeah because i sent you a text yeah i was drunk yesterday and i give you permission
for this one yeah yeah i i text on father's Day yesterday, and I said, he was underwater.
He was a little drunk, and he said, let's just admit it, right?
Yeah, I said, I was drunk.
I said, I'm banged up.
I'm gay for sure.
No, like you know me well now.
I certainly prefer men.
No.
You said you're a conflicted kid because SLO KS, you said you're a true hilarious kid who
will chase his tail and is a stone cold $3 bill.
And then you said, yeah, make no mistake, you're a pancake.
And you said you're three euros, muchacho.
You're three euros, muchacho.
Yeah, you said you're three euros, muchacho.
And it's just what it is.
And then if I reach in your pocket, I'm pulling out three crumpled up dollar bills.
Yeah, and then I said,
we should have Tyler Fisher,
our good friend of the show, Tyler Fisher,
put on a gay voice and call in his $3 bill bar.
It's just real funny.
Yeah, yeah.
And then you said,
and then you said,
and what else did we say?
And then some of the other things I can't read.
Yeah, they could just put the phone down now.
They got it.
The people got it.
Yeah, you said,
yeah, you said, my friend,
you said one of your family members just bought a beautiful home.
And you said, kid grew up middle class, but he's the sweetest, humblest guy.
And I said, yeah, in Ridgewood, we got a term for that.
And it's called something I can't say.
So it's S-Low-K.
But yeah, cuz.
For a kid who grew up in Ridgewood, you really are yourself.
I mean, you wear the Ridgewood.
It's in the way you sound. It's how you move around. You're a Ridgewood, you really are yourself. I mean, you wear the Ridgewood. It's in the way you sound.
It's how you move around. You're a Ridgewood
kid. It's in your politics, for
sure.
But you're yourself
because you're free spirit.
You're three crumpled up $3
bills. You're a three bill.
Yeah, I'm a three bill. And yeah, watch.
I did an interview on AOL Build with
Monet X. That was a lot of fun. She's a drag queen. And yeah, watch. I did an interview on AOL Build with Monet X. That was a lot of fun.
It was a...
She's a drag queen.
Drag queen, yeah.
So couples, copes nice with this.
And yeah, it was great.
You know, it's just great.
It's just great to get to know.
Because what I love about society today is there's people expressing themselves in ways that have never been expressed before in history and been accepted before in history.
So we're getting to meet like new kinds of personalities that I think is fucking dope.
Yeah, because right now, why not?
I mean, we're so comfortable and so safe.
People can just reach down deep and explore and perform whatever they want.
You know, this would be great.
Hopefully, humanity evolves to a place where this is the mainstay and it's not just an
indication of an empire kind of getting too comfortable on the decline.
Hopefully, that happens in the future.
We're headed to a digital place with AI and stuff like that.
My daughter's going to know it.
Your daughter's going to know it.
I'm only here for a couple more decades.
I'm going to do some blow.
I want to do some blow.
I've never done blow.
I want to try some blow before I check out and see if my dick can stay up.
Yeah, because you're a fucking, you're just going to be, it's going to be wild for your daughter
because when you're about seven years old,
you're going to be so many people to her.
You're going to be her father.
You're going to dress up like Marisa,
be her mother.
You're also going to be her grandfather
and her grandmother.
So you're just like,
you're four people in one
where she's like,
who is this guy?
He's everybody.
Ru Paul, what an amazing episode.
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Well, no, I'm just saying because Tom Segura said to specifically just say one item.
He said that's the screwed up thing to do. Oh, okay. And he fucked it up. Yeah, so that's what I'm just saying because tom segura said to specifically just say one item he said that's the screwed in thing you do and he fucked it up yeah so that's what i'm just saying just pick one edit me out because it's i'm just trying to be screwed in
here well you're more screwed in than i am i i thought it was better to have options fuck it we
got one shirt well we got options but i want a three dollar bill shirt i want a guy's dick
can we get a three dollar bill shirt all right yeah all right let's pause it for a second oh no
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Okay, so let's start it off.
First off, JJ.
Second, Canadian Cousy.
Then we have Dr. Chrissy Crooked Toes
cured my foot fetish.
By the way, we encourage funny names
and we pick a PPW pseudo-penis of the week.
Yeah, he's going on the list.
That's a funny one.
He's on the list. Okay, then funny one. He's on the list.
Yes.
Okay, then we got, this is a long one.
Then we got, my roommate listens to this every day, and once in a while, fucking, she beat
my balls like a speed bag, and I want to say, ease up next time, or have an ice pack ready
or something.
Yeah, I mean, you know, almost there too long.
Too long.
Too long.
Too long.
Then we got, if you think I'll climb ladder 14 to crack open Chrissy Hammertoes and Lieutenant
Lollipop, you got another thing coming.
See you, M-M-I-N-G.
Yeah, I love it.
Then we got
Constancio
Rodriguez Jr., the third, but make no mistake, I'm
half Greek, half bean with no fumare.
S-O-K-S, Trump 2020. There we go.
Then we got fluffist Afro
Latino with a tattoo on the left hip, physically
taken down. Leroy pieces, yeah, I mean.
On the list.
Then we got Mazuramia, Owen McCormick.
Then we got Father Bill de Blasio.
On the list.
On the list.
Then we got Caitlin De Rocha.
Then we got Eduardo, Yanni P, and Chrissy D.
Tuck it back.
I'll make you queef so you make me squeak of the week.
On the list. Yeah, Jesus Christ.
This is another tough one. Then we got
Brandon Truesdale. Then we got Christian here
for the content, but make no mistake, if you come to London,
I will tickle your pickle, Charmin.
Close.
Close. Close to a Drexel.
I can't give it. Almost. On the fence.
Then we got Monique Castro,
Ken, Matt Clark. Then we got
Call Tony Ball's father, Bill Bill is throwing a no-no.
Not quite.
Not quite.
Okay.
Yeah.
Then we got Luke.
I love the hyenas.
I want to shoot my farina on your pubic arena.
Riccardi.
That's for the rhyming scheme.
I'm throwing it into the Drexler category.
Drexler.
There we go.
Good for you.
Congrats.
Then we got Jennifer Jacob.
Then we got buy my safe. I'll take away Sean Sheehan. Two physically because it's just what it is. A Drexler. There we go. Good for you. Congrats. Then we got Jennifer Jacob. Then we got Buy My Safe.
I'll take away Sean Sheehan
to it physically
because it's just what it is.
A lot of 14.
There we go.
Thank you.
Then we got Casey DeYoung.
Then we got Yanni's mother
used tights.
Oh, Yanni's mother's used tights.
Yeah, yeah.
It's a Drexler.
It's a Drexler.
Really?
Drexler?
Used tights.
I mean.
But saying because it's the tights
that you used to smack your monkey till.
It's a Drex. Okay. We got two better ones. It's's the types that you used to spank your monkey to. To Drex.
Okay.
We got two better ones.
It's a good one, though.
It's a good one.
Fair enough.
You make the call.
Then we got Jonathan Mathey, Patrick Ryan, Cord Nelius Price.
Then we got here for Weppa, but I smelled arepas.
Now staying for Yanni's tetas.
Ladder 14.
You know where that's going.
Catapulted onto the list.
Then we got Travis crack me open and slap my bladder.
Then we got Amber Manitoban.
Then we got Evan, Evy Wevy, bang too many toots and poop shoots
so I won't make it into heavy Nicholas.
Okay.
Then we got Gary.
Then we got Lil Marky, long dick, French fumes, size 18 shoes.
You know I got a peace fan of the tram like Jim Norman.
Mom, I'm not a $3 bill.
Okay, you're wild.
It was funny, though.
Just long.
The long ones are tough.
Then we got amenities and modernity.
Writer's block.
Rain check.
My shout out.
Thanks, Bubba Lee's.
Crystal clear.
Cara.
Okay.
Hey, Cara.
Welcome.
Then we got Adam Wall, Jason Rolfano.
Then we got Sal.
How many words do I have to rhyme for Chrissy to respond to my dick pics on Instagram?
Drexler.
Drexler.
Then we got Mott.
Young Lord Q.
Alexandria Splendor.
AD.
Anthony.
It's not gay if your eyes are closed.
Ortiz.
That's going on the list.
The originality.
Congrats.
Then we got Justin Wiesling.
Carter Neely. Chris Ain't Sis,
when Yanni's tongue in his bung on the last rung of ladder 14.
Then we got Ja Rule, Colin Marrick, Brent Watts.
Then we got Jim Rome's a douche.
Then we got Father Bill gave me Stockholm Syndrome in the coat closet a few times.
Then we got scrotisserie chicken.
it a few times uh then we got scrotisserie chicken uh lc mehan this guy fucks steel then we got no fumes and trapped out from pushing down the gay but make no mistake two-term trump
it's what it is then we got lorcan hanafee the bulldozer then i got then we got i want to lick
chrissy d's ring piece it's what it is uh joe R., Michael Rehar, Christian Adams, Davon Fitz, Guz, Pete, Scott Smalley, John Clap.
Then we got Two Fruit Loops in the Poop Shoot.
Then we got Move Over, B-A-B-I-Y.
Chrissy's my daddy now.
Then we got Joe Muslo, Dane Dimmick.
Then we got Brock.
Not gay, but make no mistake, I'll let Chrissy stimulate my prostate,
so definitely not straight.
Mason.
It's right up your alley right there.
Kids in the gray zone.
Yeah.
Then we got Richard Huntwork, Emily Sassano.
Then we got Zach's empty chair.
That's a goodie.
That's going on the list.
Yeah.
Then we got Lane Howler
Then we got
Michael not a faji
But a male nurse practitioner
And likes to fill the love sack
With fettiches
And spin my pseudo penis around
He's here for a good time
Then we got Pat Flanagan
Austin Roberts
And then we got Robert
The HPV pick
Is going in for another lick
Junior
Okay
Borderline
Okay good
Borderline Alright Okay, good.
Borderline.
All right.
Well, Mike elected.
I'm going to throw it to Drexler just because Mike elected.
So then who do we got?
I mean, who do you like as...
Oh, that's it?
Yeah.
Oh, wow.
Vanity is making the list shorter.
Yeah, what's the list?
No, who got on the list?
Okay, Dr. Chrissy Crooked Toes,
Curred My Foot Fetish,
Father Bill de Blasio,
Eduardo, Yanni B, and Chrissy D.
Tuck It Back, I'll Make You Queef,
So You Make Me Squeak of the Week.
Yeah.
Then we got Here for Weppa, But I Smell the Repas, Now Staying for Yanni's Tethas, tuck it back I'll make you queef so you make me squeak of the week then we got here for
weppa but I smell
the repas
now staying for
Yanni's tattos
a lot of 14
that's the one
then we got Anthony
it's not gay
if your eyes are
closed Ortiz
and then Zach's
empty chair
Zach's empty chair
is a goodie
that's a chicken finger
that's a real good
chicken finger
I think we should
give it to Zach's
empty chair
that's kind of
alimony payment
for Venetia
that's what
it's a divorce
settlement for me
you made the call
it's going to
Zach's empty chair
Zach's empty chair you Zach's empty chair.
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