History Hyenas with Chris Distefano and Yannis Pappas - 28 - USS Indianapolis was WILD!!!

Episode Date: August 19, 2018

Yannis and Chris go over the wild story of the USS Indianapolis with comedian and former navy sailor KP! WILD!Want more Hyena content? Check out www.patreon.com/bayridgeboys where things get... really WILD!Follow us!: 🙆🏼‍♂️🐕🙆🏻‍♂️🙆🏼‍♂️Chris Distefano on Instagram, Twitter, website🙆🏻‍♂️Yannis Pappas on Instagram, Twitter, website🐕History Hyenas on Instagram, Twitter, website Subscribe to the poddy woddy on YouTube, iTunes, Spotify, and HH Clips

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What's up? I'm Chris DiStefano, a.k.a. Chrissy D, a.k.a. King Gay. You're listening to the Bay Ridge Boys, History Hyenas. What's up everybody? Welcome to another episode of the History Hyenas. I am Chris DiStefano, a.k.a. CMMPT, Chrissy Mashed Potato Tits, with my boy and fellow homosexual-in-waiting, Giannis Pappas, a.k.a. Freddy Feta Cheese. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes. Ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k when you don't gel your hair? You know what you look like? What? You look like an Italian kid who's been sitting in outdoor lawn furniture in the middle of a schoolyard all day. Yep.
Starting point is 00:01:29 Yeah. With Reeboks and no socks on. Yep. With Catholic tattoos all over. Yep. And you go get a hero and a fucking Budweiser. If you want to look at,
Starting point is 00:01:38 if you want to get a glimpse into what I would look like with not having my hair gelled and growing up in the suburbs, then Google a picture of our guest, K.P. Burke. Because that's exactly what Chrissy D would look like if he was from the fields of New Jersey. You're from New Jersey, right?
Starting point is 00:01:57 Yeah, I'm taking this as a compliment, bro. Absolutely, dude. You just look like, yeah, Irish. You guys look like cousins. We're cousins, yeah. Somewhere, somewhere. Yeah, like me and you. I see you every year at Aileen's house for Thanksgiving yeah. You guys look like cousins. We're cousins. Somewhere. Somewhere. Like me and you. I see you every year at A. Nightly's house for Thanksgiving dinner. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:02:10 KB's a good kid, KP Burke. One of the two of you is going to die of cirrhosis of the liver. For sure. Well, KP Burke's fellow comic, great guy, was in the Navy. Today's episode's going to be about the USS Indianapolis, and let me tell you something. This story is fucking wild.
Starting point is 00:02:27 And we got a fucking sailor, a seaman himself, KP Burke, on the show. I just worked with KP at Bananas. By the way, thank you for the History Ahina fans and the Bay Ridge Boys fans who showed up at Bananas Comedy Club, which is in a conference room in the Holiday Inn off the side of Route 17 in Hasbrook Heights, New Jersey. Hot show. Yeah. So you really made that, you really made that, you know, made me feel a lot better
Starting point is 00:02:48 when, you know, because sometimes you do shows at the Holiday Inn and, you know, you can't help but say, should I walk into traffic? Should I do this show? You know, that club's been there for a long time. Shout out, by the way, shout out to Bananas Comedy Club. If you want to see a great fucking comedy show in the New Jersey area, I personally think Bananas is one of the better options. It is.
Starting point is 00:03:06 Because it's literally been there for 35 years. When you go into that comedy club and you look at the walls of the Holiday Inn, you think all you're going to see is bullshit wallpaper and signs that say employees must wash their hands. But what you'll see is actual pictures of all the celebrity comedians who have performed there at one point in their career. Jimmy Fallon, Louis C.K., Colin Quinn. Everybody's performed there. Amy Schumer. They've all performed there at Bananas. You have to go through Bananas
Starting point is 00:03:31 if you do comedy in New York. You have to. The only route to stardom is through Bananas. So go check it out. And it's impressive that they put up that wall every Friday and Saturday for the shows and then take it down. Take it down because it's just
Starting point is 00:03:43 a regular hotel conference room. So they have to put their shit up. And then the people who were in there for the fucking Geico conference Monday morning don't know the absurdity that just happened the night before. Look, if you want to feel like a real professional stand-up comedian, you have to perform in front of a banana made out of colored paper. Yes, that's what it is. That's when it really hits you,
Starting point is 00:04:06 like, you know what? I'm a fucking, I'm a pro. I'm a pro comic. And, you know, the fans in New Jersey were great. Like I said, thank you so much for the fans of the podcast, fans of Bay Ridge Boys to come out, and thank you for the people
Starting point is 00:04:17 who didn't know who I was, who, you know, the room just got papered, you know, for, you know, New Jersey Trump faces, and I appreciate you guys coming out, too. I mean, there was one guy who kept asking me when it was going to end while it was on stage. And I was like, you're live from my set. And he said both.
Starting point is 00:04:30 Well, here's a good thing about bananas too. If you want a water with lemon in it, you know? Or water that's been marinating with orange peels in it, you can walk out into the lobby and get yourself a nice plastic cup of nice lobby hotel water and walk right back into the showroom. And that's fucking cup of nice lobby hotel water. That's it.
Starting point is 00:04:45 And walk right back into the showroom. It's right there. And that's fucking cute. Yeah, that's cute because the Holiday Inn staff is just, you know, it's just your standard hotel off the side of the highway staff. It's illegal immigrants and Eastern European people that barely speak English. That's who staffs the Holiday Inns. Who the fuck stays at that on Hasbro Kites?
Starting point is 00:05:01 Guys like us. See, here's another thing. So we do that gig. We do that gig in Hasbro Kites. We're, you See, here's another thing. So we do that gig. We do that gig in Hasbro Kites. We're, you know, both live in Bay Ridge, and it's only about a 40-minute drive for us, but the comics who come from L.A., they have to stay at that Holiday Inn. The Comedy Club is great,
Starting point is 00:05:16 and the hotel is clean, but you have to understand, you're off the side of a highway. So if you've ever been driving in any part of the country, and you say, who would ever stay in that hotel off the side of the highway? That's Chrissy D and Yanni P. That's where we stay when we do these comedy gigs for you. So when you guys show up at the gigs, it helps us out so much. How hilarious was it that this weekend you were at Bananas and I was at Uncle Vinny's? We were doing Jersey bad this weekend.
Starting point is 00:05:38 The only thing missing was Soul Joel. Soul Joel, yeah. A.K.A. the Kung Fu Panda. Uncle Vinny's is a comedy club in Point Pleasant, New Jersey, a little beach town run by the great Dino, who knows what his last name is, Dino Mafia Face. Who has the greatest photo in his office of him and his brother. It's the best. With the gold chains out and their dogs.
Starting point is 00:05:58 It looks like the back of a funeral car. Yeah. Yeah. It looks like, well, and again. It looks like they both died in a car accident and then the other side of that has a prayer to St. Mary on it. They got football faces on too, like they're staring through the camera like they don't got the little dogs. It looks like a photo that your mother would make you pose for for a Christmas card when you're five years old. But they're grown men that do it with the dogs.
Starting point is 00:06:18 When I first saw it, you know, because I love Dino. Uncle Vinny's is another great comedy club in New Jersey. Seriously, Bananas Uncle Vinny's is another great comedy club in New Jersey. Seriously, Bananas Uncle Vinny's. Go check them out. I remember when I first walked in, I hadn't met Dino yet, and I saw that picture on the wall, and I thought that that must have been
Starting point is 00:06:33 the owner's brothers who have special needs. That's what I thought. Thought it was a little Frank and Beans. Yeah, a little Franks and Beans. And then Dino walked in, and I was like, wow. Yeah. Yeah. Dino makes great penne alla vodka.
Starting point is 00:06:43 Shout out to Dino. Actually, you know what? First night I got there, they were like alla vodka. Shout out to Dino. Actually, you know what? First night I got there, they were like, you want anything to eat? And I said, you know what? Chris told me to get the penne alla vodka. They said, you want that with chicken? I went, came out piping hot. Yep.
Starting point is 00:06:53 And it was fucking delish. Yeah. So you were right. The penne vodka at Uncle Vinny's, delish. And it's a cute little town. It's really cute. It's not brutes. It's cute.
Starting point is 00:07:03 It's for sure. Point pleasant. Ka-ka-ka-ka-kaw. Ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw-kaw Casino. And we also did work with KP Valley Forge Casino. Yeah. So, yeah, dude, you've been doing comedy how long now? Six years. Six years. And you served the United States Navy. Yeah, I did six years in the Navy, too. Give me a fucking salute, cuz.
Starting point is 00:07:31 Thank you for your service. Thank you for your service. I clean toilets all six years, guys. I really feel terrible when people thank me for my service. Somebody's got to do it. Somebody's got to do it. It'll have to be you. Yeah, somebody's got to do it.
Starting point is 00:07:40 Yeah. Chrissy would have done it with his mouth, because he loves men. Yeah. Yeah, and that's why we really are joining the show. You thought we were going to talk about the U.S. as Indianapolis, but it's not. We just want to know if you ever suck some dicks below deck. It's on or off the clock. That's the real thing, man.
Starting point is 00:07:51 Yeah. You guys ever smuggle beers onto the boat? All the time. Really? All the time. Interesting. Now, as a seaman, sometimes you get in international waters and you might get caught by the enemy. Do they teach you whatever secrets you have on you, you stuff them them up your butt or no that's the best place to hide secrets no
Starting point is 00:08:08 i like i really couldn't be trusted with any of that shit man right i give shit away like on accident like i'll just mention it you know i really can't i was an engineering department too so we're below deck okay so it's like literally i was responsible for like making sure the urinals like flushed down because it's all like vaccine powered on there but if shit hit the fan and you were ever attacked, you had a fucking piece on you. Yes, that's true. You walked around with a piece. Yeah. It was weird
Starting point is 00:08:32 because we had the general workshops. I was telling you, man, in the Navy, people don't realize it's like a job. I walked around with a wrench all day and everybody just thought I was busy. They never gave me anything to do. Was there any puss on the boat? No, it's the Navy, dude. No, but there's girls in the Navy. They changed it as soon as I got on board dude. No, but there's girls in the Navy. Wait a second, there's girls in the Navy? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:48 Yo. Yeah, a lot's changed. Yeah, a lot's changed since fucking, yeah. Since I came out of my coma. Yeah, after 9-11, they let women into the Navy. I didn't know that was legal. Yeah, it's legal, yeah. ISIS, what do you think about that? Completely against. You're against that, right? Yeah. They ain't gonna do shit when i get on that boat that's right yeah dude yo it's
Starting point is 00:09:08 scary to have like an 80 pound woman like being behind you on like like the at sea fire party like you're going into an engine room that's on fire like yeah this 80 pound chick can get me out of here that's great what's an at sea fire party oh that's like uh there's no fight like it's the boat's fire department pretty much so it's like if something goes down like we have to respond so that was like my department that was like what we did what's anything what's the craziest thing that went down while you were at sea anything fucking wild happened honestly not too much crazy shit happened on board over there like i had i did like a break in service too so i was on the uss carney which is a guided missile destroyer yeah and that's good for you because you're an
Starting point is 00:09:40 irish kid and corny's an irish last name that's why they put you on there when they saw you they saw you coming in like a fucking walking potato especially this kid's going to the carny yeah yeah so wait so you were that means you're smart if you were in the engineering department yeah he's a smart look at the size of his head he's got a big brain you do too yeah you both are smart kids yeah damn so that means you're smart because you're in the engineering department yeah it was like but it was weird because like have people in the trades or whatever. There's a guy on a union job site that sounds like a fucking moron when he talks. He's a genius and he can figure out how to do.
Starting point is 00:10:11 Yeah, but you are a smart kid and I knew you were an engineer because you wore a button-down shirt that looks like graphing paper. Yeah, you want to fucking do event diagrams on your tits. Yeah, no, you want to do a fucking line graph. Because you got a fucking penguin on your shirt. Yeah. Frank Sempades. Frank Sempades. And you got a fucking penguin on your shirt yeah and you got fucking mickey mouse on yours yeah we're a couple of gay kids so so so did anybody ever like go overboard or was anybody die on on the boat or anything like that we had to uh our ship had to respond to another ship having a guy go overboard so they give you these infrared goggles and and we were just standing out there
Starting point is 00:10:46 looking for something like thermal goggles. You're looking for a body floating in the water. Because, let me ask you this. If you went overboard, would you get sucked into the propellers and cut in half? Is that true? Because that's what I think happens if you fall off a boat. I mean, not everything in the Navy happens
Starting point is 00:11:02 just like the movie Titanic does. Yeah, but we don't know. Have you ever, I've never spoken to a sailor. I mean, if you fall off the boat, you know, I mean, you'd have to be like directly in front of it or behind it, right? For the propellers to get you. They put a guy on watch in the back too, because like on the destroyers, they got the helicopter pad back over there.
Starting point is 00:11:18 So that's like the flight deck area. So there's a guy who's, his whole job is like, he has headphones on and he just sits there making sure nobody like floats past the boat or whatever. Interesting. So that's his whole job is like he has headphones on and he just sits there making sure nobody floats past the boat or whatever. Interesting. But if you fell off that boat, it's high enough. Could you make it off? Would you die on impact or no? Especially on a destroyer because they're
Starting point is 00:11:35 smaller. I think you'd die from a fucking aircraft carrier for sure. Like you would die just to fall off that boat. It's a couple stories up. It's like a floating city, man. It's like a splat kind of a thing they do. But it's like, because people who go overboard on some of the other ships, people don't realize this, man. Like when you go into the water and they come back to save you and it's a successful rescue, you're still in the water for like two hours. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Really? Even on a successful rescue? You're sitting there floating. Like they can see you. It just takes forever to get the ship to kind of change course. And then they got to drop like a, they call it a rib boat. So it's like a little motorboat that's attached to the side of them. And they come out and get you or whatever.
Starting point is 00:12:06 But it's like probably like a 90-minute process at best. So for you. I'm definitely peeing and shitting in the water 90 minutes. 100%. Yeah. So for you, like in training, did you have to like simulate that, jump in the water and they would save you? It kind of upsets me how many people join the Navy and don't know how to swim. Really?
Starting point is 00:12:23 Like that would be the one that would, you know, you'd think that'd be like a check in the box. Yeah, you'd think it'd just be the blacks. I would say there's a lot of Filipino people in the Navy, too. They can't swim either. I'm joking. No, I mean, come on. It's a fucking joke. How many blacks have I known?
Starting point is 00:12:36 For some reason, a lot of them don't swim. I can't swim either. There. I can't. I'm just kidding. They'd go for lessons. Like, they'd get, because if you didn't pass the initial test, like, they'd hold you back until you could pass, like, the bare minimum test on stuff.
Starting point is 00:12:47 Right. So, there'd be, like, some jacked dudes, like, in-shape dudes who'd probably be, like, just killer dudes in the Army that couldn't swim. So, they were, like, getting held back in boot camp for longer. What made you pick the Navy? Did you just want to be on the ocean? What did you want to do? Did you want to look for mermaids?
Starting point is 00:13:00 Yeah, you got to be near water with the Navy, man. Yeah. So, that part's always, you get, like, oh, I live in Florida or Wichita, Kansas. What are you gonna pick? So you pick Florida. But is that where you were stationed, in Florida? Yeah, Jacksonville, Florida, all six years. If it was Jacksonville, I might have picked Kansas, to be honest with you. Jacksonville's a
Starting point is 00:13:15 shit city. That's a lose-lose right there. Geographically, it's the biggest city in the United States, geographically. Yeah. Not the most people, but mileage-wise. My buddy always says it's just five small towns holding hands to have a football team. That's what it is. I think that's what it is. It's all about the Jaguars, right, down there?
Starting point is 00:13:32 Who dat, man, right? Yeah. It's about the Jaguars trying to rape Crocodile. Florida's a weird place. Yeah, yeah, yeah. One of the last articles I read about Florida was some guy who was giving the crocodiles some sort of drug that would put them down unconscious, and then he was raping the crocodiles. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:13:52 I mean, Florida is fucking crazy. Let me ask you, when you would get nuts for Fleet Week, you got any nice stories there? Were you just dressed up in the white suit? We were talking about it at Bananas, man. Frigging, when you're in uniform in New York City, you can't buy a drink. Nobody lets you spend a penny. I had this weird thing where I showed up
Starting point is 00:14:13 on September 9th and my girlfriend would salute you and it would emasculate me. Every time fucking Fleet Week, my girlfriend rolls down the window, thank you for your service. And they're like, you're welcome, little girl. Fucking tzatziki tits right there. Yeah. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:14:26 And they just talk about what they would do. Yeah. It's brutal. Yeah. Thank you for your service. Yeah. Thank you for your service. People want to take pictures with you and shit, man.
Starting point is 00:14:32 It's fucking crazy. You ever get a toot on the boat? A prostitute? Toots. You'd be surprised, man. Dude, you know what was weird? Is that when you go to different parts of the world or whatever, if you go to Europe, the black and Spanish guys would clean up over there because they'd never seen, it was exotic to
Starting point is 00:14:48 them. Right. But then the inverse of that is there's this island called Seychelles out in the Caribbean or something. Yeah. Every chick looks like Rihanna and they're obsessed with blonde hair, blue eyed dudes. So you cleaned up out there. I never got to go, man.
Starting point is 00:14:58 That's my one major regret. Wow. Really? But it was like fucking nerds on board the ship were going home with prom queens over there. Did anybody on the boat, maybe it wasn't you, but did any, like did sailors hook up with each other? Did anybody know anything? Like when you're just out to sea, you're just like, fuck it.
Starting point is 00:15:12 We had gay dudes on the boat and everybody just kind of knew it. And you just kind of just like, okay, whatever, man. You think they were pounding each other's asses out? Oh, without a doubt. It was like. 100%. It was so obvious. Like one of them is, I'm still friends with both the dudes, man.
Starting point is 00:15:22 It was like the one guy is like, he would like be doing cheers on like the mess decks and stuff like that. He teaches gymnastics now. Like we one of them is, I'm still friends with both the dudes, man. But, like, the one guy is, like, he would, like, be doing cheers on, like, the Mesa decks and stuff like that. He teaches gymnastics now. Like, we all knew, you know. So, for him, that was great. I mean, he's just, yeah. Out at sea with a lot of men. Most men-shaped dude, too, man. He was, like, ripped up. What's the seasickness like? You just get used to it? Because seasickness is a real thing.
Starting point is 00:15:39 It's like, seasickness is one of those things, like, you don't consider in the military. You're on a fucking boat. You get seasick? I've, yeah. You're from Greece. Yeah, but you ever been on, like, a boat that's rocking a lot? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:50 Yeah, you get seasick. I never got seasick. I guess the smaller the boat. Smaller boat, yeah. Yeah, but I guess the big ones feel like a city just moving, right? Yeah, it's like, like, I used to be on, they had an elliptical and a treadmill on the front of the ship, and, like, if you were going over the waves, that's, like, all of a sudden you're just running downhill on the elliptical.
Starting point is 00:16:04 That's all it felt like so it was like really relaxed motion but if i go on a small boat like my last unit was a 34 foot patrol boat and we were doing like guided armed escorts for ships in and out in dubai and uh well we're over there like you have to qualify in a 50 caliber machine gun from the boat so the boat's rocking while you're trying to like aim with the waves i just started vomiting out of my kevlar man it was insane that's the worst feeling in the world yeah it's one of those things you don't think about, man. It's like, you know,
Starting point is 00:16:27 it's one of those like aspects of how the military makes you tough that you don't think about. It's like sickness, all those things we always talk about in wars and stuff,
Starting point is 00:16:35 people get sick, germs. It's like seasickness is a big, think about back in the day. Right. Like before they had aircraft carriers and shit when all the boats were like that.
Starting point is 00:16:42 Imagine being on a fucking Viking boat, one of those, what are the long boats? Yeah, fucking nuts. People, they were probably just throwing up the whole time. Yeah, and there was fucking infested rats on there and dead bodies. It was brutes, my goats. Brutes, my goats.
Starting point is 00:16:55 You have to bring the food the entire time for the journey, too. You have to make sure you had enough food. Yeah. So overall, we play this little game called Cutes or Brutes. Overall, would you say your experience in the Navy, was it Cutes or was it Brutes? Cutes, bro. Cutes. Cutes?
Starting point is 00:17:08 100% Cutes? Without a doubt. Yeah. All right. That's good. That's good to hear. That's good to hear because you know whose experience was definitely Brutes? The USS Indianapolis.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Wow. That crew, July 30th, 1945, is what we're going to be talking about today. The USS Indianapolis was sunk by a fucking Jap torpedo in the middle of the ocean in the middle of the night. And the U.S. Navy did not get notified of the boat. They didn't know about it for four fucking days. Four fucking days, cuzzy wuzzies. What you're about to hear is one of the wildest stories in American history. First of all, I think you're telling me this, KP Burke.
Starting point is 00:17:49 We haven't had a ship lost. The U.S. Navy hasn't lost a ship since when? Since like the 60s, right? I want to say it's because, yeah, that's the biggest American naval catastrophe we've ever had was the Indianapolis. Was the Indianapolis. And it's the biggest loss of life due to sharks that we've ever had. That's the biggest shark attack, biggest human shark attack in history of the world is USS Indianapolis.
Starting point is 00:18:09 So what happened was it got hit, and it must have gotten hit. You're in fucking Navy. Where'd it get hit? Right in the deck of the boat? Can I just say something right now? Yeah. That nobody mentions in all the research I did? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:18 Those sharks? Yeah. Were definitely fucking Japanese sharks. Mm-hmm. Because they were attacking our boys. Yes. Nobody ever mentions that. 100%. Those were fucking fucking Japanese sharks. Mm-hmm. Because they were attacking our boys. Yes. Nobody ever mentions that. 100%.
Starting point is 00:18:26 Those were fucking fascist sharks. Absolutely. And they were Japs bad. Yep. Yeah. Exactly. They were fucked up. And you know what?
Starting point is 00:18:33 I did hear- They were American sharks fucking off California. They're not attacking our boys. No, they would salute with their fin and that's it. They keep swimming out. Those are fucking kamikaze sharks. That's it. That's it.
Starting point is 00:18:41 They keep swimming out looking to eat Trudeau's. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so this is the greatest, like you said, it's the greatest loss of life at sea that we've ever had in U.S. military history. Wow, Chrissy Cackle's got notes. Yeah. You got into
Starting point is 00:18:59 this one. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I always wanted to be a sailor, cuz. You did, right? Yeah. Was that part of you? That would be big in Ridgewood. That's big. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I always wanted to be a sailor because- You did, right? Yeah. Was that party, that would be big in Ridgewood. That's big. Well, what happened was is when 9-11, when the towers went down, everybody in Ridgewood was going, we wanted to sign up.
Starting point is 00:19:14 We were like, I'm fucking signing up. Everybody was like, I'm fucking signing up. Because you were about to try Middle Eastern food, but then 9-11 happened. You said you'll never do it. No, I'll never do it again. Have you ever eaten Middle Eastern food? I've never eaten Middle Eastern food, and I still won't eat sushi because I fucking near the enemy.
Starting point is 00:19:27 It's not even a joke. We're not even joking. Yeah. He only eats Italian food and in diners. Yeah. That's it. All I eat is pizza and diners. That's it.
Starting point is 00:19:35 Once in a while, I have Chinese food, but if he told me it's Chinese food, I start to slow down. I can't eat it. Yeah. You don't eat any foreign food. No, no. Once in a while, I have hummus. I was eating a lot of... I used to eat feta cheese a lot, but then Janusz told me it's
Starting point is 00:19:46 from goats. Can't do it either. Yeah, but you liked it when you didn't know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So there was 1,195 crew on board this puppy because the reason why, so first of all, this ship was a fast motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:20:00 It could go 50 miles an hour. I don't know how many knots that is. It's a few fucking knots. Well, they were steam propulsed too. is like so like you actually like you're catching steam and that's what's powering the ship okay so like when shit got fucked up with that imagine like getting like ever like take the lid off of a pot like while you're cooking or something like that you just get the steam burn on your wrist or something it's like that but it kills you instantly like instantly yeah when shit goes wrong with that wow Wow. So it was traveling in the middle of the night, and it kind of, nobody wanted to, nobody was
Starting point is 00:20:28 really allowed to know where this boat was, because it would have to kind of remain mysterious because it was carrying parts of the nuclear bomb, little boy, that we eventually dropped out of the Enola Gay. Well, didn't they, it was returning from delivering it, I think, right? They delivered the parts, right? Yeah, they had like, I think it was like 70% of the Enola Gay. Well, didn't they, it was returning from delivering it, I think, right? They delivered the parts, right, KP? Yeah, they had like, I think it was like
Starting point is 00:20:47 70% of the world's uranium or whatever. On board. But they must have dropped, well, no, they didn't drop it off yet. I think they did. No, because they picked it up
Starting point is 00:20:54 in San Fran. They were on their way back. No, so they dropped it off in San, they left San Fran. Yeah. Then they, oh, because I think they dropped
Starting point is 00:21:00 it off in Guam. You know why? Because here's one part through my research of what I realized, and this is just fucking luck of the draw. Out of the 1,195 men that were on it, because it was always staffed with somewhere between 1,600 and 2,000 men. At Guam, when they dropped the pieces off, it was a change of duty. So all those guys, so all these guys on the crew were only on the boat for two or three days when this happened.
Starting point is 00:21:27 They had just gotten back to their, you know, they were like either new recruits that have just gotten on board because of the people who had been already, you know, whatever the tour of duty was in World War II. I don't know. What do you think it was? Like 18 months? They probably rotated a lot. They rotated a lot. The wartime is crazy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:42 So this was a fresh group of guys. So it's not like these were even battle-hardened guys for the most part. Did you know that they got bombed a month before? Did you see that? That's insane, man. You just got done being bombed and then you go out and have the worst day of your life. Fucking bombed again. Was it Guam or were they returning
Starting point is 00:21:57 to Guam, ISIS? Can we get a quick one? I know they were in the Philippine Sea. Yeah. They were out in the Pacific, bad i know they're in the philippine sea yeah so i thought they were out in the pacific bad well yeah they were in the phil and they were in the middle they were geographically if you look if you just google uss indianapolis route you could see where they left from and where they were going and they were geographically right in the fucking middle of the
Starting point is 00:22:19 ocean yeah there was i think all around them it was like 400 or 500 miles to any land in every direction one of the one of the survivors recounted it as He had he saw the the boat the boat went down in 15 minutes or which is not right KP is that not 12 minutes? 12 minutes super fat they got um I was gonna send you the video man There's a thing they do called sink exercises. We're like when a boats old we blow it up I don't know like so it's a way to test our missiles and then it turns into like uh some barrier reef thing or whatever right but when you watch these things go down they fill like as soon as they start to fill it takes like it's i
Starting point is 00:22:52 forget what the miles per hour is while they're going down but it's like a whirlwind of a thing because when you have the the air flooded compartments shit just gets sunk fast like right you'd think it would be like stoic like a wood ship going down but this shit's just like you know it's almost like a pop sound and it's over. Yeah. 12 minutes went down. So, but the thing is, it's interesting because, so 300 out of those 1,195 died, you know, instantly on the boat where it was headed.
Starting point is 00:23:16 They blew up, you know, like you're saying, the steam, fucking gas, the whole shit was on fire. 900. It got hit, but it was six torpedoes that the Jap guy, the Jap sub hit. Two of them hit One hit the front And then one hit Right in that middle Yeah
Starting point is 00:23:29 Where all that Fucking fuel and shit was Yeah and they actually Interviewed The Japanese Guy who was in charge That was his name And he said That when they launched that torpedo.
Starting point is 00:23:46 Do it with a Japanese voice. Come on. When we launched the torpedo, we said that this is going to be a great loss of American life. And to be honest, we don't feel good about it. That's what he said. You started real good Japanese and ended Eastern European. Okay, let me try it again. Mashiro Hajimoto.
Starting point is 00:24:12 Oh, that's real Jap. Yeah. Yes. So when we shot the torpedo, we said that it was directed, and we watched the ship split in two. And we said, oh, a lot of Americans are going to die now. And they said, apparently from what this guy said, it was so, because they kind of watched it.
Starting point is 00:24:37 They were underwater. Nobody knew where they were. So they could see with their scope. And they were watching. And they said there were actually some of the japanese soldiers on the submarine one of them asked hashimura should we rescue them because even though it was wartime they saw how brutal it was going to be and they knew these japanese because they were in that submarine they knew that this it was infested with sharks so he said it wasn't because he actually had to testify we'll get to the you know the you know parts of that a little bit later in the in the in the show but he later testifies um because
Starting point is 00:25:11 once the war is over they want to know what's going on because like what we'll tell you the captain of the ship gets into a little bit of trouble from some bullshit because they needed to pin this disaster on somebody um and he said that uh it wasn't like a hurrah, when they were going back to their base, they were like, we just killed thousands of men with one shot. Leaving them to die, too. Leaving them to die. So he said it was a little somber, which is interesting because you don't hear that with the enemy. And then it's like, I kind of listened to him say that. I'm like, wow.
Starting point is 00:25:41 But then I'm like, this motherfucker doesn't know that you shouldn't be somber because we just delivered the parts that are going to fucking light your country on fire and still to this day, there's Japanese people born with, you know, eight fingers because, you know, we fucking, you know, dropped a lot of radiation on them. Yeah. But this is war. You know, it's battle,
Starting point is 00:26:00 you know, it's wartime. Yeah. People don't tickle each other during war, no. They do bomb each other bad. So what happened is- And Japanese sharks do attack American boys. Unfortunately, Japs, yeah, they do attack. They do. Do you think a few of those weren't even sharks?
Starting point is 00:26:13 It was just Japanese with flippers on biting dudes? It could have been that, but my question is, do Japanese sharks use chopsticks? That's my question. What do they do? Yeah, we're a sensitive podcast. Yeah. This podcast right now sounds like it's being made in 1994. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:31 Yeah, because somebody's listening going, these guys are very offensive. Very offensive. You're not supposed to do voices. We're kidding. What was MacArthur's quote? Tiger Sharks. What? Did you ever hear that?
Starting point is 00:26:42 I think it was MacArthur's quote when they talk about how politically. Chopsticks? No. It was so close. It's actuallyArthur's quote. Tiger Sharks. What? Did you ever hear that? I think it was MacArthur's quote when they talk about how politically- Japs use chopsticks? No. It was so close. It's actually worse than that. MacArthur was the general in the Pacific or whatever. They asked him, okay, what are you going to get done? What's your plan of action? He goes, kill Japs, kill Japs, then kill some more Japs.
Starting point is 00:26:59 Yeah. Jesus Christ. We're going to watch a video of one of the survivors later in the show. That was one of my favorite parts of his interview is he just calls them Japs like four times. Yeah. But he's like the nicest, most humble man. He's crying, but he just continuously calls them Japs. Well, my grandfather.
Starting point is 00:27:13 It's just short for Japanese. My grandfather fought in World War II as Coast Guard. And he actually was on a boat that was hit. So he got sent. I think something happened to his leg. So he got, you know, I think he like, something happened to his leg. So he got sent back. And, you know, he died in 2000. Something happened to his leg.
Starting point is 00:27:31 Diabetes or no? Huh? Diabetes? He had a stroke. But he was like 78 years old. So he went the distance. And he still, like up until the time he died, would not eat Japanese food. He just would not eat sushi.
Starting point is 00:27:44 That's where he got it from. And he said, and he would always say, you know, he would always talk about, you know, would not eat Japanese food. He just would not eat sushi. That's where he got it from. And he said, and he would always say, you know, he would always talk about, you know, you don't hate people. He said, but what I, you know, what I, because he fought his theater of war was the Pacific. He was like, it's just, they'll always be the enemy to me because of the fucking shit that I saw. You know, my mother had the same thing as my mother was a human rights lawyer. And like I probably said before, she, you know, headed up UNITAR, the United Nations International Rights of Children, but because she was there during World War II,
Starting point is 00:28:11 she always just had something against Germans, and of course all Greeks, a little bit Turks too. Yeah, and unfortunately you found out you're about 20% Turk. 25%. I'm glad my mother lost her memory before that really sunk in. Does it make you want to just like,
Starting point is 00:28:21 like if I told you- I love it because it means I'm diverse. Yeah, but if I told you, if I told you. I love it because it means I'm diverse. Yeah. But if I told you you're 25% Turk, but if you gave up one of your legs, which would be 25% of your body, you could get the Turk out, would you do it? Yeah. Yeah, you'd do it, right? Yeah, I'd have to do it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:39 I would rather walk around with one leg be 100% Greek than be 75% Greek, 25% Turk with two legs. Yeah. Yeah, that was a tough question. Absolutely. Yo, KP, you're a fucking Irish kid. How many, how much, for real, you look like you were in the movie Brothers McMullen. Yeah, I can't fight it. Like, you're a guy, like, I feel like if you exploded, you'd explode into cabbage.
Starting point is 00:29:01 Yeah. I feel like if we went to war with you, I think we could beat you at the beach. We'd just take you to the beach and we win. You're done. You can't deal with fucking no umbrella? Yeah. Well, see, that's the thing. It's sunburned bad. Well, here, yeah, because the Indianapolis,
Starting point is 00:29:16 so what happens is you have 300 men dying and now you have 900 guys in the water, 900 ducks in the pond. That's what they would say. 800. No, 900. I think it was 800. 900. What is it, Zach? 800 or 900? Let's say 850. 110 degrees, wasn't it? Yeah, fucking that day was
Starting point is 00:29:34 110. 110 degrees in the day, but at night it would go down, the water would go down to something like hypothermic conditions. I don't know how cold it would get, but it was enough to induce hypothermia. So you have 900 guys.
Starting point is 00:29:49 900. Yeah, you're right. You're a smart kid. So I told you I feel good today. Guys, it's raining out today in New York City, and I'm the kind of kid, I fucking love the rain, I love the clouds. And let me tell you, I travel so much,
Starting point is 00:30:02 but I love New York City. When I woke up today, and I got out of bed and both of my feet were planted in Brooklyn and it was raining outside, I said, today's going to be a fucking good day and I'm going to make no mistakes. And so far, it's been tried and true. Yeah. Yeah. You know what happened? It was so hot during the day, probably during those
Starting point is 00:30:17 four days that those guys were floating in the water, our boys, that during the day when the heat was out, you know who probably dropped? Irish kids. Yeah. Northern European. He would have had a tough time. He would have had a tough time.
Starting point is 00:30:28 If you were floating in the water. Imagine being sunburned. Like, you're sunburned. Your entire face is sunburned, and then the rest of you is just like a giant, like you get the wrinkles in your skin. Well, yeah. Well, that actually,
Starting point is 00:30:38 so the waves that guys were going down, because out of the 900, only 316 are going to make it in four days. So you're going to lose, only 316 are going to make it in four days so you're going to lose only 316 are going to survive this thing but 900 were alive when it went down uh in the middle of the night on july 30th but they're not going to get rescued to the second of august and in that time close to 600 men are going to die from these main things from exposure like you said exposure to the sun dehydration because the thing is the interesting thing about that's why that's why when situations like this and when you think when you have to think about the elements that's why you have to believe we're in some kind of simulators game
Starting point is 00:31:13 because how how can the one thing that sustains life water and the one thing that surrounds our planet water be the type of water that if we drink, causes us to die. It's a fucking game. It's a fucking game, because guess what? If the rules were fair, and if it wasn't a game, and this was just what it's supposed to be in everything else's games,
Starting point is 00:31:36 then the water that we live in, the water that we live around, I meant to say, and that we float in and swim in, and the oceans, we'd be able to drink it. But you can't drink salt water. It kills our bodies. It also makes you hallucinate. Yeah, it makes you hallucinate.
Starting point is 00:31:51 And it speeds up the death process. So what started to happen was, you know, guys are dehydrated, you're not drinking for two or three days, and they would start drinking the salt water, especially the young, inexperienced kids, and they would speed up their death process instantly because it just makes you that much more dehydrated. And then you would get and that would cause the saturation poisoning. So you would get like, you know, your body just starts to get poisoned out. And then the biggest thing, of course, was the shark attacks.
Starting point is 00:32:17 The shark attacks were fucking brutes magutes. You did have people starting to die relatively quickly because some people first of all when the when the when the boat got um blown up everybody like you were saying was covered in oil they all got covered in that fucking oil that was in their eyes was burning their bodies all that steam so people 900 were in the water but there was a good portion in that were going to die anyway because they got blown into the water with no limbs and they're dripping blood. So the sharks start to smell that. Do you know
Starting point is 00:32:49 how far sharks can smell blood? You're a fucking nature cuck. Do you have any idea? Probably very far. Can we find that out, Zachy? That's a good one. I'd like to know that fact. Yeah, because wait, and I want to just, because there was one thing. You got to set the scene here. I mean, it's unbelievable. I mean, you're talking about it starts out, the ship goes down for 12 minutes, and then
Starting point is 00:33:08 you just got 900 kids just in the water, just completely alone. One of the survivors was quoted as saying he remembered seeing the front of the ship going down. He knew the whole thing was going down and they were gonna you know people were yelling abandon ship which i guess that's the that's in the navy that's what you say abandon ship get the fuck off this thing you're fucked once you're abandoned ship you're fucked you're fucked and if you're in the middle of pacific ocean in the middle of world war ii he said he looked out into eternity so it's like all you see is ocean around you you're like that's it imagine
Starting point is 00:33:41 getting off the thing that has a floor to just be in the thing that's endless fucking infinity. I mean, that's scary. And they had these life jackets that were not built or equipped to last that long. So those things, people were
Starting point is 00:33:59 you had to swim for days. It became like a huge test of will. I've never been in the middle of the ocean at night. But when you're in the middle of the ocean at night, you can't see anything, right? Is it like pitch black? Does the moonlight light up the water? You can see some pretty cool stars and shit out there, man.
Starting point is 00:34:18 Right. When you go out, the guys that all go on the smoke deck or whatever, it's like pitch black out there. That's what I'm saying. So these guys who were floating in the water, when it would come nightfall, it's zero visibility. Yeah, it's terrifying, dude. Right. You know what the funny thing is about Chrissy D, about Chrissy Cackles right here? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:33 If he was out there in the middle, now you'd die obviously- In the sun. In the sun. At 1 p.m. You're fried, right? You're fried out. ISIS is still going because he's used to the heat. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:42 He may die at the night when it gets cold. Right. All the Arab kids and all the darker kids, they die at night. Well, ISIS would die because there was no way he could get on his knees and pray. He'd fucking drown. So that's the problem because he can't pray to the West. That's it. In the life vest, your dead body's just going to float next to you too.
Starting point is 00:34:57 You don't have that nice Rose and Jack moment at Titanic. It's just fucking sitting there brining like a pork chop. By the way, if a Rose and Jack, if we find a raft, it's 15 minutes on, 15 minutes off. That's how I'm doing. Me and Brittany there, I'm going, you're on for 15, I'm going, and then we just see what happens. But listen, this is how Chrissy's going, right?
Starting point is 00:35:15 This is how fucking Chrissy's going. Because Chrissy's a tough fucking kid. You can look. Look at that head. There's a lot of Neanderthal DNA in that fucking huge noggin. Yeah, and in a situation like that, I don't want to be in it, but I think with my head, and I also got, I have a pseudo-tit, I got a fat left tit, which kind of acts like a natural floaty device.
Starting point is 00:35:33 So I kind of got, I kind of was born with a swimmer. I got a little bit of a swimming in my tit. But here's how the universe is balanced, and this is how the simulators are hilarious. This is how Chrissy would die. People would be dying around his constitution, his strong constitution would keep him alive yeah but you know what would take him down nighttime hit he's scared of the dark he starts screaming about ghosts and he'd go into shock because he would think there would be ghosts there'd be sharks eating people next to him and it wouldn't bother him one bit but he'd be like there may be ghosts out here yeah then he'd die
Starting point is 00:36:03 from the shock of being scared of ghosts. Ghosts. That's why you need to be walked to Poughkeepsie and fucking put down. Yeah. Because you're more scared of ghosts than you are reality. Absolutely. You're a weird, strange gay kid. I can't.
Starting point is 00:36:14 I can't. I can't go out at night and do anything at night. Not because I'm scared of anybody beating me up because I'm 240. It's because of ghosts. Yeah. I don't want to get eaten alive by a spirit. We do a lot of jokes on here, but I'm going to tell you the true story. This has actually just happened
Starting point is 00:36:26 when we were driving here. I was like, I love Bay Ridge. I was telling him why I love Bay Ridge. I was like, I love just the quiet of it that I was able to walk my dog last night down to the park at around midnight. And this is exactly word for word what he said. We're not on air,
Starting point is 00:36:39 so he's not trying to make anyone laugh. And this is, I'm not exaggerating. He goes, wow, you went down to the park at 12? So I assume, you know, he's thinking like, wow, it's dangerous. There could be some bad kids down there. I'm like, you know, I'm not a small kid and I got a dog with me, so I'm not scared. He goes, no, I'm not talking about that. He's like, you weren't scared of the ghosts, maybe the spirits that are down there?
Starting point is 00:36:57 And I looked at him. He wasn't smiling. He was dead serious. Yeah. I wanted to get out of the car and be like, I don't think I want to be friends with you anymore because you're a fucking strange kid. I'm a strange fucking kid. I'm not lying This is exactly what happened on the way here Well cuz if you think this is an act if you're listening thing it's not a fucking act
Starting point is 00:37:11 Yeah, it needs to be put down. Yeah, you're not good for society cuz why I thought I thought I kept I thought I kept order. Yeah, you make it a better place. You're good. I'm a good kid Cuz like you said reality is just a suggestion for you. It's a suggestion suggestion. He doesn't yeah Yeah, the other day he goes we're two italian kids he called me italian and then i was like you know what maybe i'm an italian kid who cares and then the other day i was like we're a couple of black kids walking down the block that's what it is and you know and it's just nothing different i'm just sometimes i want to say yeah you know what i'm a fucking chinese woman today it is what it is it's funner
Starting point is 00:37:40 that way yeah i don't got to be a fucking white kid from Brooklyn. Okay. So. Sharks, by the way, it's four to five hundred yards. They can detect. Wow. Wow. So, yeah. So at one point, at one point, one of the sailors said that he counted over 160 sharks encircling the men.
Starting point is 00:38:00 So there was no way to get out. He said it was like being surrounded by another enemy. He said so there was no way to swim away from said it was like being surrounded by another enemy he said so there was no way to swim away from them because anywhere you went it was a continuous circle and one by one you would see Finn start coming towards the group and what they were trying to tell them was to start to just kick
Starting point is 00:38:16 just kick wildly and if you hit one in the nose it'll swim away and if you hit a shark direct in the nose it usually swims miles away like it just doesn't want to go near that. So some guys were lucky in the sense that they would kick it square in the nose, and they would get one out. But because they would sense it, and there were so many sharks in the water, once one shark would come back and eat a human body, all the other sharks would kind of smell what was going on, and sharks were coming by the dozens every few minutes.
Starting point is 00:38:46 There were more and more sharks coming. Here's a brutal fact about that, too, is that the sharks don't even eat the humans. Right. Our meat is repulsive to them. They just get curious. They smell the blood, and they bite it, and then they break. So you're just getting bit up. They don't really eat us, do they?
Starting point is 00:39:00 Really? They just rip a limb off, and that's done. Oh, and the thing that I was trying to— Can you look that up just to make sure, Isis? The word that I was trying to find before about hypothermia, shark attacks, exposure, it was desquamination. Desquamination is what, when you're in the water, like when you're in a pool and your skin prunes up, that's a little bit of desquamination, but it's not really.
Starting point is 00:39:22 It's just like a beginning process of it. It's fine. It's never going to hurt you. But when you're in salt water, not only is your water pruning up, the salt is wearing away the top layer of your skin. So what started to happen when four days in the water like that, they started to suffer, or actually three days
Starting point is 00:39:36 because they still had a day to get rescued, they started to get the desquamination process where you would touch someone and their skin would fall off. So these are all the elements. So the fact that 316 even survived is fucking wild. Yeah. Would you want to die
Starting point is 00:39:52 right away? Because I was thinking about this when I was looking over the thing. I'd want to die immediately in the blast. It would be so... That pitch, blackness at night and you hearing the blood curdling screams, the guys being attacked by sharks. Yeah, I think I'm going to go into
Starting point is 00:40:07 shock. I don't know if I'm going to make... How did they survive the night? Because the water gets so cold. Well, hypothermia. What happened was, the kind of what they would do, some of them had life vests, some of them didn't. But the life vests, do you remember what kind of life vest it was?
Starting point is 00:40:23 You said Kevlar before, but that's bulletproof vest, right? Oh, yeah. That was when I was on a land-based unit. Right. Yeah. But no, the other thing, too, because you were saying the crew was like 1,200. What was it? 1,200?
Starting point is 00:40:32 Yeah, 1,195. Yeah. Yeah. So that boat was supposed to have like 900 people on it, but for wartime, they ramp up the people. So you got everything you have on board the ship, you probably are running low on stuff to begin with. Right.
Starting point is 00:40:44 So if you had something that was probably like garbage, half the guys probably didn't have life vests they didn't have life vests and they would try to what they would try to do after um you know if you have a life vest which i didn't know this only through doing my research when you have a life vest it doesn't last forever it starts to then the water starts it starts to get filled up with water and life vests are only good for about two days. What happened was you could come out with a life vest and think you're good, but then your life vest starts to deteriorate and you have to then sit in it.
Starting point is 00:41:11 Once you sit in it, then you have to swim. You still have to kick your legs. The guy was like, what would happen was there would be guys on duty who had life vests who your whole goal was to just keep, you would put your arms under somebody else's arms and just keep them afloat for as long as possible but some guys would just fucking their muscles would give out there was a a good amount of guys that would swim towards the sharks um that
Starting point is 00:41:34 was one thing they would do because of the dehydration they started to hallucinate so guys number one guys thought started to go swim underwater because they thought they want to get a drink below deck so they thought they were going below deck and they would never resurface, either eaten alive by sharks or they were just drowning themselves. Then guys started swimming towards islands that weren't there and they would swim away and never to be seen again.
Starting point is 00:41:52 That would have been me. Yeah. The one of the guys hallucinating. Yeah, and then guys started swimming towards the sharks, especially the younger guys, because they just couldn't deal with the fear because the shark feedings and frenzies would only happen at night.
Starting point is 00:42:10 So imagine it's pitch black and out of nowhere at any second a shark is going to dart up 30 miles an hour and rip your fucking leg off and rip you down they were saying that one survivor was saying he knows men were being dragged to the bottom of the ocean he said that that's what was happening he was seeing men being dragged down and never resurfacing yeah and then you get just all these like you said these body parts and dead guys just floating around in these fucking things. Well, and he said after the third day or even the beginnings of the fourth day that they wouldn't even, if you were dead, they wouldn't check you. They didn't want to take anything off you. Maybe they tried to take your body, your life jacket, because they didn't want to turn your body over and see that you were just a torso. It was too traumatic for everyone because it happened so much.
Starting point is 00:42:47 They would think that I can help you and they'd put your arms under, you know, but you were just half a torso. Because you're bobbing from shoulders up. I mean, that's what it is. Yeah. I mean, you know, it's just a horrific scene. And just to think, do you think about how slow time went in like math class when you were a kid?
Starting point is 00:43:03 Imagine how slow time's going to go when you're were a kid imagine how slow time's gonna go when you're sitting in the middle of an ocean yeah being like please rescue us every minute must have felt like a fucking hour because you're struggling to survive every second and you're not having a good time so they would and they would fucking they would um there was a group of 90 i know that would like all huddle together so there's different groups huddling together and what would happen was is one of the survivors this is a fucking part that I was like wow you really unpopular kid wasn't allowed in the 90 yeah yeah absolutely yeah fucking Steve's where you go sit over there go
Starting point is 00:43:33 sit with go fucking go go go swim around with the other nerds yeah go bob around in this violent fucking scene with the other nerds you're not welcome here do you think there was racism for Japanese-Americans who fought for the U.S.? Like, you know, like, there was a Japanese-American on board of that? You think some... I don't think there really were. You're fucking... No, there were. There is now. We'll fuck around with, like, when you got,
Starting point is 00:43:56 like, a Muslim dude in the Navy or whatever, I'll be like, dude, can you ask your uncle when shit's going down? So I just want to take my leave in time for Christmas. I guarantee you those, I guarantee you most of the soldiers who do jokes like that are either from the Northeast or Texas. Yeah. Guaranteed. And you know what?
Starting point is 00:44:09 Yeah. Nothing will ever stop those jokes. No. That's what guys do. Guys joke. Yeah, they're funny. Yeah. Guys joke.
Starting point is 00:44:15 That's what it is. I mean, it builds camaraderie. It does. You know, it really does. It does. Isis, do the sharks eat or do they just bite? They just, I mean, there's definitely like freak scenarios where a shark has eaten a person. But in general, it's just curiosity that leads to accidental attacks.
Starting point is 00:44:30 Yeah. So that's the thing is like sharks, they don't even like our meat. They don't like the way we taste. But the blood attracts them and they'll bite out of curiosity. Yeah, because when we were researching this, I was thinking middle of the ocean. I was like, why wouldn't the sharks just eat every single person with the amount of sharks there are? And then it's like, yeah, that's the reason.
Starting point is 00:44:50 It's like, because they don't- They don't want to eat. They're not looking to eat you, but you get bit up. Yeah. But they don't really know you're human until they take a bite. Until they take a bite. That's the thing. That's what makes it brutes, because would you-
Starting point is 00:45:00 See, here's the thing. That's what makes it real brutes. Right. Is because if you're trapped in the water and you get bit by a shark, first of all, they don't bite you a little. They bite you a lot. And then you're fucking bit and in pain. I would almost kind of rather the shark finish me off and eat me than now I'm fucking have
Starting point is 00:45:15 a shark bite on top. Imagine like you're floating in the ocean. You haven't drunk any fluids for three days. You're dehydrated. You're hallucinating. You haven't eaten for four days. Your best friend is a fucking floating torso over here right you're living in a nightmare and then on top of that a fucking shark bites you that's what it is sitting there going there is no god
Starting point is 00:45:33 there is no god but you'll see as a survivor some of the survivors start to say they start to believe in god because fucking wild shit starts to happen so one thing before i get to that one thing too that i just i just really put me there when this survivor said you know there's there's little you know waves that happen in the middle of the ocean eight nine foot swells and he said what would happen is is you would see bodies floating right and he said all of a sudden you would see a swell coming and the bodies would go on you know go with the swell they're motionless and then the swell would come crashing down and the bodies would be hurled. The dead bodies would be hurled into the living people. And because of the desquamination, their skin would melt off onto their face.
Starting point is 00:46:13 And they would. So these guys were covered in the dead friend's skin. So it was one of those things where it's like the horror of it was nuts. So there was one. So then what happened? So they're in there. They're in there for four days and then nobody understands you know what's going on finally after the fourth day they realized the
Starting point is 00:46:32 ship's missing okay they realized oh shit we fucked up actually somebody wherever we're supposed to land i forgot we're supposed to go made a miscalculation and said that it had gotten there when it had it so that guy got in big trouble, of course, eventually, because that's a big fuck-up. We're bad at our jobs in the military. No one wants to. We always try to be respectful. We fail more than we succeed.
Starting point is 00:46:54 Right. Nobody wants to admit it. I think it was unfairly pinned on that guy, though, right? Well, yeah, we'll get to him, because there's a whole story about that. But before that. I mean, the guy was a good shot. What do you want? Yeah, that fucking guy.
Starting point is 00:47:07 He shot six torpedoes he hit. The Japanese torpedo, the Japanese submarine, I forgot what it was called, the Japanese submarine that was the most superior submarine in all of World War II that hit the USS Indianapolis. So it's not like... It's kind of like dealing with those German tanks.
Starting point is 00:47:23 That Tiger tank thing was more superior than the U.S. tanks. It was like an underwater Red Baron. Exactly. This was the fucking big things. So what happened is, four days into this, pilot Wilbur Chuck Gwynn, fucking Chucky, Chuck Gwynn. Our old school, like our old World War II, World War II guys had good names. Wilbur Chuck Gwynn. Fucking Chucky. Chuck Gwynn. Our old school, like our old World War II, World War II guys had good names. Wilbur?
Starting point is 00:47:48 That's a 1940s name. Wilbur Chuck Gwynn. That's a good fucking name. Good name. Yeah, because today it'd be fucking, you know, it'd be Taylor, Skyler, and Matthew Thin. Yeah. Finds him. I've never met a Wilbur.
Starting point is 00:48:01 I've never met a Chuck. I've never met, yeah. Wilbur Chuck Gwynn was driving, was flying his plane. It was called the PV-1 Ventura. I call it the PV-1 Ace Ventura. He was doing just a regular detail on, you know, just flying over the ocean. Just, I don't know, was, you know, looking for dolphin puss, whatever he was doing. And they were looking for submarines.
Starting point is 00:48:23 They were doing like a reconnaissance route looking for submarines. It was a military plane, right? Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, it was a military plane. Okay, it would be that far out. Yeah, and he... The only fucking reason they saw him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:33 They were looking down at the water looking for enemies. And he saw, because of the oil, so the one thing that was killing them and the one thing that was hot and they had to go around, you know, didn't want to go near and could kill them instantly, was kind of a thing that saved them because the sun was shining off the oil, which was then causing reflections off the men's heads and life jackets. And so it was noticeable from the plane. So then the plane started to do circles and realized, oh, shit, we got bodies in the water right here.
Starting point is 00:49:02 So but at that time, they didn't know because you're too high up. You don't know if that's a U.S. or Japanese. You have no idea. But like you were saying before, how it takes a long time. It takes an hour and a half just to get, you know. Yeah, that's if you fall off the boat. Right. So this plane that they were in, this Ace Ventura plane, they couldn't land in the water.
Starting point is 00:49:22 They had no way to land in the water. So they had to go all the way back to base, get a plane that could land in the water they had no way to land in the water so they had to go all the way back to base get a plane that could land in the water even though they they weren't supposed there's whatever i forgot what the fucking plane that lands in the water was but they weren't supposed to land in the water no but the guy couldn't take it and he did it he did it anyway he hung up on his fucking general yeah he hung up on him and he said i'm gonna fucking land this plane in the water whatever so 57 men jumped on this guy's plane when he finally landed in the water because they were jumping on. It didn't take off again. It couldn't take off because it blew its engine out when it landed in the water.
Starting point is 00:49:55 But he had men sitting in the hull of his of his sitting in the cabin or whatever of his plane. And then he had men sitting on the wings and on the roof just to get them out of the water. cabin or whatever of his plane, and then he had men sitting on the wings and on the roof just to get them out of the water. And when he landed, when the plane landed, he claims, and no reason not to believe him, that he saw men being mauled by sharks as he landed the plane. And when the plane landed, the sharks scattered because that's a big thing to happen in the water. You know, it's a big impact.
Starting point is 00:50:20 So they didn't know, you know, the sharks didn't know what it was, so they scattered away. And then sharks still, when the plane was just floating in the water for another two hours, waiting for a destroyer finally came, a big boat came. USS Cecil Doyle. That was a destroyer that came. That's the one that came, but the men were just, the plane basically became a life raft. It just basically became another life raft.
Starting point is 00:50:43 So they started to hang on there, and then then even with that sharks were bumping the plane sharks scattered and then came back so from what the survivors say the sharks were like he described them as as like uh mosquitoes on a summer day like you're just you're just gonna get hit and you can't stop it that That's what it was but just sharks. That's fucking scary. Yeah. Yeah. So it was
Starting point is 00:51:09 it was Lieutenant Adrian Marks. Marks is the one who was dispatched and he came and yeah he just dropped the plane in ripped an engine apart.
Starting point is 00:51:19 He didn't give a fuck. And he let guys crawl on the wings crawl on the plane and we're gonna listen to the survivors speak about it. Yeah, yeah. Can you imagine what they look like?
Starting point is 00:51:28 Ripping on me for being Irish and everything, but if you're out in the sun like that, like I got a Puerto Rican head and the rest of me is just ghost white. Yeah, yeah. I mean, they must talk about pruned. I mean, think about it. You ever take a bath and you get pruned after like 30 minutes? Imagine being in the fucking ocean for four days. So actually, you know, a lot of people don't know about the USS Indianapolis now.
Starting point is 00:51:50 It's kind of just been like lost in time. That's why we're talking about it. But in the late, in the 40s, because this is nearing the end of the war. July of 45 is nearing the end. Oh, we're right below, right before the end. Right before the end. We're about to drop the fucking fat boy and little kid. That's what happened.
Starting point is 00:52:03 Yeah. Yeah, fucking Enola Gay. We had some gay names. Enola Gay, little kid. That's what happened. Yeah. Yeah, fucking Enola Gay. We had some gay names. Enola Gay, little boy. Yeah. Yeah. Little boy. Wilbur.
Starting point is 00:52:08 I love it if they named the new bomb is called, like, the cutie with smoothie. That would be great. That would be fucking awesome. I would love to fucking ram a cutie with smoothie right in ISIS's ass hole. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. The new bomb, the fucking Anderson Cooper.
Starting point is 00:52:21 The new bomb, the fucking Anderson Cooper. Yeah. So what happened is it became huge news in the U.S., huge news that all these men died and the way they died and the shark attacks. So they got, you know, you know how the U.S. is. We got to fucking pin this shit on somebody. Whose fault was it? So the U.S. decides to blame it on the actual, is it admiral of the ship? What would the, the admiral's the head of the Navy, right?
Starting point is 00:52:47 Like the top, top guy? Yeah, you can be, because we had a commander. No, it was, I'm trying to remember. He was a full captain, actually. Okay. But it's weird, because the small, like the admiral can be on any ship, really. But if you're a flag admiral or whatever, a fleet admiral, it's like you have multiple ships under your command kind of a thing.
Starting point is 00:53:01 So the guy who was just in charge of the USS Indianapolis would be a captain then, right? For that one, yeah, I think he was a captain, right? Yes, Captain Charles B. McAvoy III. He was captain of the USS Indianapolis. So first of all, people... And he lived. And he lived. So that was the first knock against him.
Starting point is 00:53:18 That's why they felt, because you're supposed to go down with your ship, right? That's what they say. But he jumped, and it's like, that's stupid. Do you think that's stupid, KP? Or is that like Hollywood shit? I mean, that is like an old school maritime thing. You're supposed to go down with the ship because it's your responsibility. But the COs, they get fired.
Starting point is 00:53:34 People don't understand that. You fuck up when you're the commanding officer of a ship and something goes wrong. You just get replaced immediately. There was a boat that crashed in Hawaii called the Port Royal or something like that. It crashed into a jetty because they fucked up on the maps. The joke was they called it the Port Royal on the rocks. So it was down in Hawaii. So this dude literally just crashed like a billion
Starting point is 00:53:53 dollar boat and they said like within 15 minutes he was fired. He literally knew that they crashed and started packing his bags. Yeah, it was over. Walking out of an office with his trophy in a box. There's no room for error. It's like being a surgeon. Like, you fuck up once, people die. Yeah, you're done, man.
Starting point is 00:54:08 So Captain McAvoy winds up, because the U.S. has to pin it on somebody, the people want heads, especially the families of the people who lost their sons or whatever, people in their family. Charles McAvoy gets court-martialed because they said that he failed to zigzag, that he was supposed to be zigzagging. And the Japanese commander said that it wouldn't have mattered. He later testified. So this is how crazy it got.
Starting point is 00:54:36 Captain McAvoy gets court-martialed, gets, you know, relieved from his duty and is like an enemy in the U.S. Like people are like, fuck, he gets letters. He would get letters from some of the guys who died's families like, oh, Merry Christmas because you and my son's dead, right? To the point where they actually brought in the U.S. once they started doing more investigations, brought in the commander of the Japanese submarine.
Starting point is 00:55:01 He said, there's nothing McAvoy could have done even if he would have zigzagged he said we had him in our crosshairs and our submarine is so much faster and so much more superior that we would have we it would have not have mattered we were going we we had uh uh locked in on him and mcavoy said all his orders were he didn't have any orders that he didn't even know japanese submarines were in the water. He had no idea. Nobody told him anything, which turned out to be true. Because the truth is, actually, Lieutenant Stuart Gibson, whose whole job was to track the USS Indianapolis, is the one who really should have went down because he's the one who accidentally said that it got there when it didn't get there.
Starting point is 00:55:44 So he's the one who was supposed to be one. Simpson! Yeah, no, Gibson. Stuart Gibson. I said Simpson. Stuart's always a fuck... Anytime a guy's named Stuart... When's the last time you met a Stuart?
Starting point is 00:55:52 I never met a Stuart. I never met a Stuart who was a good guy. They're always a fucking piece of shit. You've actually met a real Stuart? Yeah, fucking... I met some guy, Stu. My mom used to date a boyfriend named Stu. He's a fucking loser.
Starting point is 00:56:01 So Stuart was... My dad's a better guy. Stuart... Stuart said that they arrived before they arrived, so that's why they lost the boat. Stewart said they arrived, and then when you get where he was, apparently the USS Indianapolis, because they didn't have time to send out the distress call, but somehow information got to wherever it was supposed to go. I think that base was in Guam where they were supposed to be watching these ships come in. wherever it was supposed to go.
Starting point is 00:56:22 I think that base was in Guam, where they were supposed to be watching these ships come in. One of the commanders, one of the commanders who was supposed to be relaying information back to, you know, naval headquarters was drunk. The other one was Irish kid. What was his name? I didn't get his name. Carney.
Starting point is 00:56:36 His name was KP Burke. Sean Donnelly. Yeah. Sean E.D. Sean E.D. So one commander was drunk, right? When he heard about the USS Indianapolis. So he just didn't say anything.
Starting point is 00:56:47 The other commander had told his men, do not disturb. Because he had toots in his room. That's true. He had prostitutes. He had toots in his room. On the destroyer? Yeah, he had toots in his room. There was toots on the destroyer?
Starting point is 00:56:57 No, no, at base. Oh, back base. Back base. So he had toots in his room. So he said, do not disturb. And the third guy was quoted as, this is just another jap trap. So the third guy said that there's no way the Indianapolis went down. It's just a jap trap.
Starting point is 00:57:10 So all those guys didn't get court-martialed, didn't get in trouble. But Charles McAvoy, who could not have done a different, if he would have done anything differently, the results would have been the same, is the one who got court-martialed. And then dealing with all the fucking pressure and becoming an enemy. All this guy wanted to do was serve the Navy. Wound up shooting himself in his front lawn in 1968. And he was found with a revolver and a toy sailor in his hand. Yeah, you're not going to be able to walk that one off. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:40 I mean, what else? You got to blow it. You got to kill yourself. So the guy in the port, though, who fucked up and said that they arrived when they didn't, he never had to go through four days in the water watching people get eaten by sharks. Nothing. McAvoy did. Yeah, you live through that.
Starting point is 00:57:53 You live through all that. And then everybody calls you a dickhead. And all the guys on the boats and McAvoy did nothing wrong. And McAvoy, being the captain of the boat, did not take any preferential treatment in the water. captain of the boat did not take any preferential treatment in the water he waited in you know because all because because the only way guys survived is they found a couple of crates of potatoes that were rotten so they had to peel it off and just eat that but they had water and then twice they got lucky because you know once you're out there for hours and hours hours in the middle of the sun with the salt even if you're trying not to drink the salt water it's still splashing
Starting point is 00:58:21 up and hitting you in the lip hitting your skin so you're dehydrating twice in those four days there was uh 25 minutes of rain so they opened their mouths and drank the water and they filled up um little containers that they had found and they had that's where they had water and they said mcavoy waited in line or waited his turn like everybody else he took no preferential treatment so they all thought his boy you know his his fellow uh soldiers his team thought that it was bullshit but they just knew that the government had to pin it on somebody. And it wasn't until 96 when the sixth grade kid, Hunter Scott, now we're starting to get to fucking millennial names, sixth grader Hunter Scott did a book report. All he did was did a book report, but he did his research and it actually led to the congressional hearing which happened in july 2001 that finally found captain mcavoy not guilty of anything and post uh is it hominously or humanously when you after you die posthumously posthumously
Starting point is 00:59:16 reinstated and given like all these awards and it was my man bill clinton you know everyone just thinks he's getting his dick sucked he wasn't he. He was fucking made sure that my man James Mack, Captain McAvoy, had, you know, the honor he deserved. But his sentence was actually lifted in 46. Yeah. His sentence was lifted by James Forrestal, who was the Navy secretary in 46. That was a ship, too, the USS Forrestal. I think there was a huge fire on that one as well. On the Forrestal?
Starting point is 00:59:44 Yeah, there was some weird shit. But he lifted his sentence and cited his bravery. But, yeah, the conviction remained on his record. So that's probably what linked him. He went back on active duty, right? I think he was able to finish his naval career or something, right? McVeigh? Yeah, because they...
Starting point is 01:00:01 Was he icy? First of all, did we find out if the ship, where it was going on the way back? It was going... It had dropped off its cargo at an island called Tinian, north of Guam, and it was on its way to the Philippines. Yeah, that's what it was, Chrissy. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:15 So I was kind of right, but mostly wrong. Yeah. But you were fucking right about the 900. Yeah! I said 800, you said 900. Yeah! You fucking nailed it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:25 So that was the biggest loss of life in U.S. military history at sea. Wild story. Biggest shark attack ever. Biggest loss of life, sharks eating humans in the history of the world. And that's where fucking nature and history come together. That's a perfect story of how nature and history come together big time. Bad. Yeah. come together. That's a perfect story of how nature and history come together big time. Bad. Yeah, now
Starting point is 01:00:45 supposedly the sharks don't like to eat the humans, but the ones that hung out, if you got humans, the reason they probably don't like to eat humans is because they don't encounter them much. So they don't get a chance to develop a taste. I didn't like oysters for a long time. But the more you hang around oysters,
Starting point is 01:01:01 you acquire a taste. Do you think the sharks at first bit it and were like, didn't like it? But since the humans were still there four days later, they started to develop a taste and start to eat? I think they're probably going to like Irish kids. Yeah. Yeah. If I was a shark, I would develop a taste after three days and be like, you know what? That's maybe why they don't eat them.
Starting point is 01:01:18 They haven't developed a taste yet. And this is one of those things where if I was on board the Indianapolis with you guys, you know you always make fun of me. Chrissy Bitch Hips. You look like a Midwestern stepmom. But when we got into that water, guess whose butt's going to protect it from a couple? And this is one of those things where, like, you know, if I was on board the Indianapolis, you guys, you know, you always make fun of me, Chrissy Bitch Hips, you know, you look like a Midwestern stepmom, but when we got into that water, guess whose butt's gonna protect it from a couple, they're gonna have to, the sharks are gonna have to take a few nicks to get to this butt, but you, Giannis, who's buttless, you would fucking, you would get, you, they'd hit bone right away, but for me, the sharks are no, like, this is a
Starting point is 01:01:41 fucking, they actually may eat me whole, because my ass meat may fucking just taste like seals. Yeah, well, if they're going to bite me, I would rather they bite my no-butt or my arm than bite one of my sneakers off. I'd be like, these are nice sneakers, stay away from the Jordans. That's the thing, yeah. If that went down today, it would just be a bunch of Jordans floating in the water. That's what it would be. Zach, Zach, I just faced, can we get to Edgar Harrell
Starting point is 01:02:05 so Edgar Harrell was a USS Indianapolis survivor and he tells the story cute kid cute kid yeah
Starting point is 01:02:14 he definitely got a lot of big ears like they all had big ears back in the day well you know you want to know why old people have such big ears
Starting point is 01:02:19 yeah what is it noses and ears never stop growing so your ears actually get bigger and bigger over time and so does your nose interesting yeah so your nose and ears never stop growing. So your ears actually get bigger and bigger over time, and so does your nose. Interesting. Yeah, so your nose and ears are the only things that never stop growing. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:02:31 Okay. Little nature fact. Wow. Cute. Cutes my cutes. So we're going to listen to Edgar Harrell here a little bit. this is him recanting his experience as a survivor of the USS Indianapolis. Which, by the way, Indianapolis is my most hated city in the U.S. I hate Indianapolis.
Starting point is 01:02:54 Really? Nothing going on there. You hate it more than Portland? Yeah. Really? I don't hate it. Why? Because it was just so boring in Indianapolis,
Starting point is 01:03:03 and the people were kind of racist, and I didn't have a good experience there. But if any listeners from Indianapolis, thank you for your service. Here we go. I was a Marine Guard aboard the Indianapolis. I actually was a Marine Guard that guarded Fat Man and Little Boy. Yeah, yeah. The components of the two atomic bombs that we picked up July 16, 1945 in Hunters Point, San Francisco.
Starting point is 01:03:29 Ten days later, we delivered a... So one thing about military guys that you can tell, as opposed to civilians. Civilians like stutter and fuck up their speech a lot. Military guys, did you ever notice that? 24 hours, 16, I was part of the squadron that there's no like it's it's like they speak clear and in a straight line because they're so disciplined well they get a discipline from the military oh yeah man but i can still remember shit that like i don't know what i'm saying but i know exactly like how to say it so that it comes
Starting point is 01:04:02 across clearly yeah there's a little shit too like if you say our um in boot camp like they make you fucking walk around in a circle wow really they get rid of filler words fast man wow yeah well they do they well wait oh but but there's that because see you could tell he's never been in the military because it's always like yeah but that wouldn't cut it in the military right but there's but i don't know because there's this guy there's this guy who we're listening to, but then there was this guy who I found, and this guy just sounds, I mean, you know, he's a survivor and a fucking hero, but... What are you going to say? Did you believe him?
Starting point is 01:04:33 No. An expedition crew on the research vessel... See, he just, this guy, he just doesn't sound anything, like, Harold's so articulate, but then this guy just sounds like he was from, like, Harold's probably from, you know, the Northeast or something like that. And this is just your fucking country bumpkin from Texas who was also on the Indianapolis. I want to hear him fucking talk. Hold on. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:53 Put him up. Put him up. Let us. We all want to hear it. I don't know if I want 20 feet. I want deer. Two torpedoes from a Japanese submarine. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:05:00 This is fucking gross. Shut up. Stop talking. He's sinking it in 12 minutes. How I got through this, I really don't know. I just, damn lucky. That's all there is to it. No, he's speaking pretty clear.
Starting point is 01:05:11 And he's also 107, Chris. No. Give the guy a break. Two times that happened. All right. Yeah, I mean, he spoke pretty clearly to me. I had a bigger nose than the shark, so the shark took off. I mean, he is 95. He said I had a bigger nose than the shark, so the shark took off. I mean, he is 95.
Starting point is 01:05:25 He said I had a bigger nose than the shark, so the shark took off. Yeah, he's still got a sense of humor. He's still got a sense of humor. You can. Yeah. All right, let's hear it. Let's hear more Edgar. Let's hear Edgar Harle.
Starting point is 01:05:34 Cargo that we didn't know what we had, we delivered it to our B-29 base at Tinian Island. Yeah. Tinian Island. That's where he delivered it. 1,197. Tinian Island. Tinian Island. 1197. We left Tinian Island on our way to the Philippines to prepare for the main invasion of Japan, which would have been in November 1945. But three days out of Guam on the way to the Philippines,
Starting point is 01:06:02 we encountered a Jap sub. Commander Hosomoto fired a spread of six torpedoes, hit us with two. The ship went down in 12 minutes. Can you pause it for a second? Yeah. Can you imagine trying to explain being triggered by something someone said to this guy? Yeah. The bad term for Japs back then was nips.
Starting point is 01:06:25 I thought it was zips. Zips, nips, anything. Slants was one too, right? Yeah, slants. Lemon suckers. Can you imagine trying to explain the gender fluidity of this guy? Oh my god. That would actually be fucking hilarious if you sat him down. You were like, tell us
Starting point is 01:06:43 your story about the Indianapolis. And he'd go, okay, now I want to tell you about my struggle. Yeah. Okay? Yeah. So you spend four days in the water. That's kind of like, you know. That's kind of like when they say that my, you know, daughter, just because she has a vagina, is a girl.
Starting point is 01:06:59 She's a baby. They don't know it. Yeah, she's more of a baby. Just because the outside looks like one thing doesn't mean the inside yeah is congruent do you know what you're eating do you know what you're eating in conditions of the pig when you eat bacon it's like oh no no he's like yeah i know um actually my friend next to me his uh skin was ripped off by the sea yeah i was actually thinking the same thing back in 1945 when i was floating in the water for 806 hours, approximately 25 knots past the perimeter of the circumference of the radius of the equator. Next to my friend was three guys who got eaten by two sharks and we lost 15, 17 old men back
Starting point is 01:07:38 then. Yeah. I was feeling the same thing. Yeah, absolutely. So 900 him, he's, sirs and jurors yeah fell into the water we lost 800 good servicemen back there so i understand what you're thinking about yeah i was i've i've just feel like i'm hurt emotionally oh um i don't have any arms or legs all my appendages got eaten off by sharks i felt that same way when my friend ricky who was also my bunkmate down there in Fort Wayne, Georgia,
Starting point is 01:08:08 came bopping over to me, and he looked like a starfish because he had no limbs. Yeah. So I understand what you're going through, ma'am. Yeah, so yeah, I understand your right to protest. All right, go ahead. Let's get back to Andrew. There were seven of us aboard. We surmised maybe that 900 of us actually got in the water, which meant about 300 didn't even get off the ship.
Starting point is 01:08:27 But the Navy lost us. The U.S., it sank so quickly, no distress signal was sent, no lifeboats deployed. Providentially, we were spotted four and a half days later. But instead of there being some 900 out there there were only 317 of us still alive what happened to all the other people combination of many things one shark shark to hypothermia. Boys drinking salt waters and going berserk and I often say that it's it's much easier to die than it is to live believe me.
Starting point is 01:09:19 Sometimes I feel that way when people call me the wrong gender. You can't just continue to swim indefinitely. And it's difficult to swim four and a half days, but many of us did. All I had was a K-pop life jacket. That's what it's called. Well, a K-pop life jacket won't last four and a half days. So what happens when it won't hold your head out of water? I love millennials probably listening to this. What do they say?
Starting point is 01:09:43 K-pod? Oh, like a Keurig? Go ahead. You take it off. You turn it upside down and you sit in it. But then you have to keep swimming or else it'll pit you in the water and you don't have the strength to get that inner tube back down under you. Many men grouped together try to help each other fight off the
Starting point is 01:10:05 relentless shock. I started with a group of 80, two other Marines. One didn't make it to daybreak. The other went into the water head first and had all that oil in his eyes. And he's to suffer miserably
Starting point is 01:10:19 the next few days. But I was in a group of 80. Now, the third day at noon, there's only 17 of us, so you can only guess what's happening. And when I was picked up at the end of four and a half days, I'm with a Navy Lieutenant, Charles McKissick from Texas. The hour before, there were three of us, but I checked the sailor to see that seemingly he was doing what I had seen others do so many times. No more energy, no more will to live, and just give up.
Starting point is 01:10:55 I checked him and his head had already dropped down nearly in the water. I shook him and he responded, but he care less the second time the same thing the third time i checked him is too late i mean for the guys who made it all the way to the end and got rescued and then they were probably in the hospital together in guam for a little while how do you say goodbye after something like that yeah so uh keep in touch you know yeah yeah how do you you know how do you communicate to that person yeah that we shared an experience i mean there there's very few people on the planet probably i mean maybe these guys maybe a few who survives for four days in the water so it's like you're part of an experience that only you can communicate.
Starting point is 01:11:46 You can't convey to somebody what it was like unless you were there. How do you say goodbye from that? See you around. Give me a call sometime. Well, a lot of the survivors didn't tell anyone in their families what happened because it was too dramatic. And I saw one survivor story said he didn't tell his wife for seven years until after he got home from the war, until some book came out that he was part of the USS Indianapolis. And then his wife, he said, was really mad at him.
Starting point is 01:12:09 And I'm like, are you fucking serious, Jeanette? You're fucking mad at me? I just went to, I was getting eaten alive by sharks and my skin was falling off while you were here using my fucking credit card. You know, just being a fucking, the mooch that you fucking are, make it believe you're taking care of my kids when you're probably banging my uncle. Yeah. So I'm sorry I didn't tell you about the fucking worst thing that ever happened to me. Because when I got home, you know, you fucking asked me how many fucking dudes I banged out. It's like, shut up.
Starting point is 01:12:37 It's like, who would have the fucking balls to fucking get mad at, you know, how selfish are people? Well, you know, a wife. Did your grandpa talk to you? About, like, because he was in the Coast Guard. He said, did he ever talk to you? Because, like, my grandfather wouldn't talk to, I got, he had two daughters, right? So my mom, my aunt. And he would never tell them anything about what happened. And then, like, one day, me and him were just talking. He's like,
Starting point is 01:12:58 he's like, yeah, it's like, this is like when I got my purple heart. And he goes, somewhere, my purple heart's upstairs somewhere. He goes, I want you to have it. And I was like, how did you get a purple heart? And heart he's like i got blown out of a truck in the battle of bulge wow he's like this is like fuck what all right let's we can come back to the jets game let's finish holy shit in the battle of the bulge a fucking iconic battle people people who've been to war my dad was in the korean war yeah they don't just like brag about it or talk about it it's a pretty like it comes out in weird moments.
Starting point is 01:13:26 They're just like, oh yeah. Because my dad has a couple stars too. He doesn't just talk about it. He's like, yeah, I got that for calling in the artillery that killed because it's such a horror to be in war.
Starting point is 01:13:41 You don't really want to murder these guys, but you have to. Anyone who glorifies it and talks, their mouths mouths fucking run let's go over there and fucking shit it's like dude you've never been my dad told me it is absolute he says it's hell it's mayhem it's confusion modern artillery is just like you're just firing you don't even see the enemy you go see the dead bodies afterwards you go to the battlefield and you you know you see what the carnage is but you rarely it's not hand-to-hand combat don't see the enemy really unless you're doing urban warfare you you still don't even see him things are happening from far away with scopes and shit and you're firing you can't hear sound either so it's like like a surgical kind of a thing right you watch some of those videos man like there's people screaming
Starting point is 01:14:21 but you can't hear them because you're so far away and that you can't hear over the fucking firing it's just it's pandemonium there's dust flying everywhere that's why fratricide is always so high it's because the confusion what they call the fog of war is so you know sometimes fucking a lot of times in vietnam they're killing your own people you're killing your own people when they call an artillery they drop it on the you try to tell them where the positions are you like we think that's what my dad did you know he's a lieutenant so he's like you know he's telling the artillery where to bomb and yeah you're hoping they're there you're like i think they're over there because kp it's correct you're wrong don't forget like especially like vietnam war world war ii like you're getting trained for a few weeks and then being sent to
Starting point is 01:14:59 battle it's like you don't fucking you're not a master of press you don't you're just pressing buttons you don't fucking know yeah it's fast man of, you're just pressing buttons. You don't fucking know. Yeah, it's fast, man. Especially, like, my last unit was a reserve unit. So they'd bring in people who were like, this guy was driving a fucking bus in Gainesville like two weeks ago, and now he's on like a tower and a machine gun. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's the same thing. It's kind of crazy how that all works.
Starting point is 01:15:17 Let's hear the rest of Edgar. I'm a kissick on myself. Kissick and myself. One of my buddies, and when he's asked that question, his response is, and maybe that's a good one, he says, never, never, never give up. And I never gave up. I wondered when I would look at a decomposed body that maybe if I checked him, the bottom torso is gone
Starting point is 01:15:47 or he's disemboweled. Can you pause it for a second? He says never give up, but maybe he doesn't know what it's like to be a straight white male in comedy. Yes. I mean, you might as well give up. You might as well give up. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:58 There's no hope here. Go ahead. And you see, you see maybe a body up on an eight-foot swell, and all of a sudden that swell breaks, and that body comes down and he hits you, and he leaves part of the residue on you. You know, you see that and you wonder, is that gonna be me tomorrow or yet today?
Starting point is 01:16:24 And so you look up and may i say there's no such thing as an atheist in foxholes there were no atheists out there everyone prayed i can hear that one no sailor praying today god if you're out there i don't want to die i've got a son back home that I've never seen. I want to live, but we have to have help. So we pray, and we pray, and we continue to pray. So the lesson that I have learned is I know that there was a higher power watching over me or I wouldn't be here today. And there's never a day passes but
Starting point is 01:17:06 what I don't thank my Heavenly Father for sending that plane number one the second day when I was so thirsty dared not to drink the salt water and to have a little cloud come over and you see it's raining, it's raining, and you open your mouth heavenward and you get a few drops of water. I thank the Lord. On the third day when there was only 17 of us, to see a little makeshift of a raft come into our group, and we see no one's on the raft but five sailors all rounded.
Starting point is 01:17:51 But what they had on the raft was K-POP life jackets that they'd taken off of boys already expired. They'd squeeze those out and put them on that little raft, and now they're drying out. They came into our group, and our K-POP jackets are gone. We're seated in them, but we have a new spare tire, so to speak. We're seated in them, but we have a new spare tire, so to speak. And then sometime later than that day, when you're so thirsty and you haven't had anything to eat, you know, for those three days, and then to find an old potato crate, and when you reach in and grab that first potato, and to see it's rotten, it's rotten and then that rot squeezed between your fingers and you take your hands and you peel that and you take your mouth and you peel off some of that rot but it's solid on the inside so you have a little water and you have some food and then the end of that fourth day when there's only two of us now and to see that plane
Starting point is 01:18:48 coming in look look there's a plane and you can hear it and then you can imagine the excitement and you wave you splash water and here all of a sudden he starts in a dive. You think, he sees us. Look, he's coming in. May I say, impossible for him to see us. Here, he's flying at that distance. He's looking forward of him, say, four miles. He's looking at his peripheral vision, two and a half miles. Looking at 20 square miles. And to see a man's head down here six by eight inches, impossible.
Starting point is 01:19:25 But in the providence of God, he saw us. Let me tell you how he saw us. Lieutenant Gwynne flying that Ventura out of Paloo, looking out on a search and destroy for submarines. Here he's having problems with his radio antenna. He tells the co-pilot, take over control. I'm going to go aft and I'm going to pull in that antenna. He tells the co-pilot, take over control. I'm going to go aft and I'm going to pull in that antenna. And he had a piece of rubber hose that he was going to put on that. And as he opened the bomb bay door, he glances down two or three thousand feet. And what did he see? He saw the
Starting point is 01:20:00 little boy's scabs mirror. He saw the sun hit the oil off of our clothing down there and the glitter of that he rushed back to take over control so they rescued him i mean he's basically telling us everything that you told it you know you already told all right yeah but i just thought you know it's nice to hear him him say it that's fucking no it is nice if they zoom out on the camera and like his grandkids are texting in the background yeah yeah just look done with it like every year he does this yeah yeah i mean it's wild you know what i was thinking when i watch this is like um i was trying to think like what would give me the fortitude the will to survive i think it's like maybe faith that was that was very interesting he's like there's no atheists and foxholes he's like, there's no atheists in foxholes. He's like, yeah, there was no atheists out there that day.
Starting point is 01:20:46 It's true. I'd be fucking praying too, you know? But then, so is that what, you know, was it faith that kept like certain guys? Were the other guys who died the guys who were kind of like on the fence? Because he's going like, God's going to save us, you know? No, there were probably some Jews in the Navy. I would think, right?
Starting point is 01:21:01 Let's keep a couple. You know, because that's not going to do you any good to be a guy out there being like, look, I don't know if there is or there isn't a god you know you just gotta fucking believe you gotta in those moments you gotta just go gung-ho but it's funny that this guy believes so much but then you look and you're going all right maybe he's right right maybe there is a god and god divine providence did send that plan and all the things he's saying are true and faith is what kept him alive but then you're going like who the fuck put you in that situation god's then god's a fucking, who the fuck put you in that situation?
Starting point is 01:21:27 God's a fucking dick. He's like, you know what? I'm going to fucking throw some sharks in there, throw you in the water for four days, but then I'm going to save you after the fourth day. Yeah. And only a few of you. Only the ones that believe really hard. You got to believe.
Starting point is 01:21:41 Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, that was the story of the USS Indianapolis. Hope you guys enjoyed it. It's fucking wild. You know, moral of the story, and I've been saying this, is don't go in the water. That's why I don't go in the fucking water. Yeah, black kids know that. Fucking sharks can't get me if I'm on land.
Starting point is 01:21:55 As long as I got my two feet on the sidewalk in Brooklyn, I'm safe as a fucking safe guy. Maybe that's why a lot of black kids, you know, they don't learn to swim until later. They've seen the story. They've seen the story story and they're like You! Be careful from the sharks Anybody listening right now We appreciate it
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Starting point is 01:22:34 We celebrate you, if you will. Thank you for your service. So first, got an Italian girl, probably a girl from Bensonhurst, Brooklyn, Maria Christina Carrero. Wow. Yeah. Hold on. Wow. Yeah. Maria Christina Carrero. Wow. Hold on. Wow.
Starting point is 01:22:45 Yeah. Maria Christina. What are the chances that that girl didn't go to Catholic school and doesn't have a rosary bead on the top of her bed? And 100% her husband used to be a DJ. Now he's in real estate. Now here we go. Now we got Shelly K. Booker.
Starting point is 01:23:03 We don't know who she is. That's just a pure American. That's American right there. Her fucking grandpa was on the USS Indianapolis. Then we have Adam Menges. What kind of name is Menges? I don't know. Or Mengs.
Starting point is 01:23:13 Whenever we don't know, we just say probably Jew. Yep. Jewed out. Jewed out. Then we have an Italian girl, another Italian princess, Alyssa Romano. Romano. That's a good, solid Italian name. Follow the Romano cheese.
Starting point is 01:23:23 Then we got Jeannie Gernius. That's a Greek. Greek. Welcome to the Metriaki. Greek girl. Your father knows you here. Here. And then we got Samuel Peck.
Starting point is 01:23:35 Oh, that's an American band. Yeah. Yeah. We got Adam Foreman. Adam Foreman. A couple of Americans who definitely have slave owners in their background. Yeah. Then we got a Bay Ridge staple, Bread Brothers Bagel Cafe.
Starting point is 01:23:50 Now we got another Irish kid, Sean Barry Jr. Wow. You go, wow. That's a fucking kid's going to be sitting at a bar. Where's daddy? You know where he is. Yeah, that kid works for sanitation. You're fucking Sitting at a bar
Starting point is 01:24:05 Donated from his pension To support you guys That's great Exactly Then we got Morgan Rohan Smith Cute Cute name
Starting point is 01:24:12 Three names Morgan Rohan But it's a guy though Yeah could be I think that's African American We have a diverse fan base Absolutely
Starting point is 01:24:19 I love that Now we have And then next up is Mandy Genji Mandy Genji? Yeah I don't know You know I don't know. You know, I don't know if like, sometimes I wonder if like, you just can't read, are you reading that right?
Starting point is 01:24:29 Menji? Mandy Genji. How do you spell it? G-E-N-G-I-E. Genji. Genji. Genji? Mandy.
Starting point is 01:24:37 It's just Jewish. It's just Jewish. Yeah, Jewish. Ray Bards. Ray Bards? Or Bardez. I don't know. B-A-R-D-E-S.
Starting point is 01:24:44 Could be Puerto Rican. Could be. That's right. Derek Booth. Yeah, good black kid. Yeah, black kid. Yeah, he definitely is good. He's getting recruited by Villanova.
Starting point is 01:24:52 Then we'll end with a Jew. Jake Metz. Oh, for sure. M-E-T-Z. Welcome to the- Shalom, Jakey! Welcome to the Mediocre. Welcome.
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