History Hyenas with Chris Distefano and Yannis Pappas - 64 - Sergio Chicon is WILD!

Episode Date: April 11, 2019

Finally! The Hyenas best friend Sergio Chicon is here to talk all about Cuba and Blizzy! WILD!Want more Hyena content? Check out www.patreon.com/bayridgeboys where things get really WILD!Follow us!: �...���🏼‍♂️🐕🙆🏻‍♂️🙆🏼‍♂️Chris Distefano on Instagram, Twitter, website🙆🏻‍♂️Yannis Pappas on Instagram, Twitter, website🐕History Hyenas on Instagram, Twitter, website Subscribe to the poddy woddy on YouTube, iTunes, Spotify, and HH Clips

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What's up, cuzzy wuzzies? You're listening to the Bay episode of the History Hyenas. I'm Chris DiStefano aka Chrissyk.a. Chrissy Earclogs. With me, Giannis Pappas, a.k.a. Yanni Husbands. Our special guest, our good friend for over 10 years. Our fucking, just, you know, a guy that we love, that we hang out with all the time. Fellow New Yorker, boxer, Puerto Rican kid, cute bald head loves snakes loves Blizzy Sergio Chacon
Starting point is 00:01:06 yeah what up pa I'm chilling man I'm chilling Sergio Chacon loves animals the Puerto Rican Ace Ventura
Starting point is 00:01:13 that's right I mean Sergio when's the last time you did cocaine tell our listeners it's been a while man but every day
Starting point is 00:01:20 I do get the urge someone's stronger than others all my addicts in the world know. You gotta just push it down, right? You just gotta substitute with some other good shit.
Starting point is 00:01:29 I'm not full of good things. You see how I came through and I brought you guys smoothies with blueberries, pineapples, and I know what the benefits of each fruit is. Back in the days, it would've been a 40 ounce of St. Ives
Starting point is 00:01:40 and a bag of Blizzy. And I would've been cheap with the Blizzy. I'm gonna let me hold that down. Things change. I'm evolving as a human being and I feel great, man. And I would have been cheap with the Blizzy. I would have let me hold that down. But things change. I'm evolving as a human being, and I feel great, man. There's times, though. There's times, though, where- But you do have to run like 20 miles.
Starting point is 00:01:52 You got to run 20 miles to push the need for the Blizzy down. To push that need for the Blizzy down, you got to run. You got to work out. You got to eat right. You got to take a few- You got to walk through a Petco. You got to calm down. Dogs, I just got substituted with a bunch of good shit.
Starting point is 00:02:03 Yeah. And I'm just addicted to good shit. Yo, your head's mad shiny. Yo, mad shiny. Just substitute it with a bunch of good shit And I'm just addicted to good shit Yo your head's mad shiny Yo mad shiny Substitute it with a bunch of good shit Cause that's the way it is So everybody who runs excessively They're running from something
Starting point is 00:02:14 Like in real life I like running No they're running from something Unabusive relationship Drugs But it's good though But it's good to be addicted to good things Not when you run so much that you're peeing blood.
Starting point is 00:02:27 Okay, that's too bad. We're talking to you, Michelle Wolf. Yo! You know what I mean? She runs a lot. You know, I'm part of the runners community now, and I'm running the marathon this year, and they're fucking nuts.
Starting point is 00:02:39 You ever hung out with a squirrel? No. That's the way runners behave. They're like fucking bugged out like they're not normal because their awareness is so heightened it's it's like super like clean it's like dogs i need some fat in here have you ever ran so much that you pee blood i boxed one time so once i came out of like therapy like and i was like you know like seven eight years ago and i was going you know know, doing my shit with drinking and everything.
Starting point is 00:03:05 I went to therapy. Every day, five days a week, I would go to the gym for like three hours, overdoing it. That's overdoing it. Yeah, and like, you couldn't put enough water in me because I was sweating so much at the boxing gym. And a couple of times,
Starting point is 00:03:16 my pee looked like rust. Yo. And that was blood. Yeah. It was dehydration. It happened once or twice, but I feel like we need to share the hyenas. Yo.
Starting point is 00:03:34 For all the people who are not from New York or may not know, even if you're from New York and never heard about all the ways, synonyms you could use for blow. Blizzy is cocaine. White girl. That's what it is. The white lady man. Snow. Yeah, yo. Yeah, yo.
Starting point is 00:03:42 What's some good one? You know what Jesse's Caturi used to call it? He used to call it the who-hots. The who-hots. The who-hots. I got to get the who-hots. But yeah, it's good to be addicted to good things if you have an addictive personality. Some people just have addictive personalities. And it's going to come out either in blow, in throwing hands, running, toots.
Starting point is 00:04:00 The puss. Sergio has been helping me. I box with Sergio all the time. That's who I throw hands with when Giannis and I talk about me throwing hands. It's the great Sergio Chacon. Sergio Chacon also comes. Which, by the way, I don't mean to cut you off, but you come a long way. Like, just even watching you hit the mitts today.
Starting point is 00:04:15 Yo. Like, you're trimming down. Your punch is on, though. I'm proud of you, family. Yo, because you said. At the beginning, you said he couldn't hit. You told Giannis some dirtbag shit. You said, yo, for a big guy, he don't hit hard.
Starting point is 00:04:24 And then Giannis told me yo Giannis was quick to tell you and I felt good too I remember feeling like so good and then I didn't come to boxing for 8 months
Starting point is 00:04:32 yo Giannis you fucked up my whole progress there's two things about Giannis that I've known in the 10 years that I've known him he's very persuasive and he's got a mean streak
Starting point is 00:04:40 and in those two he managed to display both yeah he persuaded me to get some information that's like it's like personal it's personal like a doctor giving out this fucking information
Starting point is 00:04:53 not to hold myself in those regards but that's your private information and I revealed it because he was so persuasive yeah it's like really like it was like yeah it was personal shit very uncomfortable shit and you told him and then he exploited me. Yeah, so then he was mean about it. He was like, you can't hit for shit.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Yo. Yo, when you punched, is the pseudo tit jingle a little bit? He used to, Pop. Yo, he don't got the jiggle anymore. He's tight now. I used to jiggle, right? The left side only. With the jab.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Yo. Lack of time to jab because before you threw it, it would jiggle a little bit. My tit would jiggle. That's where your pseudo tit is Yo But now he's hitting good He's punching hard Yeah man
Starting point is 00:05:28 You know boxing It all comes from the legs From the ground up So if you're pivoting That means you're rotating your hips And your core is engaged And we saw it soon right Getting that right hand in order
Starting point is 00:05:36 Yo be careful I'll stretch you out home I'll stretch you out Stretch you out It's dirt bag Tell someone I'm gonna stretch you out Yeah It's dirt
Starting point is 00:05:44 That's how boxers talk I love the boxing jargon Yeah Like stretch you out is dirtbag. Tell someone I'm going to stretch you out. That's how boxers talk. I love the boxing jargon. Yeah. Like stretch you out. What is it? You don't want it. You want to get some of this work. Let's get what is it? Yeah. When you spawn, let's get some work. Let's get some work. Dog. What do you call the dog? Dog work. Dog house. When they're talking about like a dog house. Rhymey gym.
Starting point is 00:05:59 Specifically the Mayweather gym. Go in the dog house. The boxers say funny shit. Sergio and I sometimes will wear- Because Sergio also comes on the road with me. Sometimes we will sit in the hotel room and play boxing videos, like the promotional- Oh, these guys talking shit. So funny.
Starting point is 00:06:17 So funny. Yo, James Toney? Yeah. He was one of the best shit talkers. I'll never forget the time I saw a video of him. Where his sparring partner is. My fault. I mean a video of him where his sparring partner is. My fault. He's whipping his sparring partner's ass. You would think
Starting point is 00:06:30 he would be humble. He's talking shit. He's giving them body shots and liver shots. You know what I'm saying? Going back upstairs saying, you ain't shit boy. You a bitch. After the sparring, after he whips this guy's ass, the guy tries to give him dap. try to give him a handshake.
Starting point is 00:06:47 And he just looks at him like that with a side eye and gives him a quick, like, you know, like, little dap. Yeah. But not really dap. Yeah. And he was like, look at his face. Look, it's swollen. I'll do any of y'all. I don't care if you 120 to 240.
Starting point is 00:07:02 I'll whip all your asses. I don't care if you lightweight or your mama weight. I'll fuck if you're lightweight or your mama weight. I'll fuck all you guys up. Your mama weight. It's a big part. It's a big part of selling a fight is your personality. There's
Starting point is 00:07:18 probably been a lot of great fighters, but they never really rose up the ranks like other guys because they can't sell a fight because they're not entertaining yeah Cotto was not entertaining no he let me go Cotto yeah I mean they might fight the league
Starting point is 00:07:30 but that guy could fucking fight they could fight and Puerto Ricans really stood behind him but not like the other Puerto Rican champion Trinidad Trinidad would walk through
Starting point is 00:07:38 with the flag Tito Trinidad yeah people loved him he really he had his personality he was an extrovert like people were warm yeah he was warm to people he would hug people Cotto was very serious yeah tight circle People loved him. He really embraced his personality. He was an extrovert. People were warm.
Starting point is 00:07:46 He was warm to people. He would hug people. Cotto was very serious. Tight circle. Two different personalities, but they were both loved. Do you think boxing is getting taken over by MMA now? I don't. I don't.
Starting point is 00:07:59 I think it's not like... There's so many other things to choose from, but I think boxing is here to stay. And I think as long as we have these amazing athletes, there's going to be people who are taking part in the sport. It's never going to be as popular as it was because there's just so many other things you can participate in and watch for entertainment purposes. Like, it's like,
Starting point is 00:08:15 you know, not only HBO, now you got Netflix, you got a bunch of other shit. Do they have boxing on Netflix now? No, they should though. That actually,
Starting point is 00:08:24 that would work. So many, it's competing with so many things. Right, right. You were just half tuned in and you tuned in at the end. No,? No. They should, though. That would work. It's competing with so many things. Right. You were just half tuned in, and you tuned in at the end. No, no, no. I was listening. Joe Sergius is a successful fucking guy.
Starting point is 00:08:33 He is. He owns a spot in downtown Manhattan. His mom owns about two or three spots, and she owns a spot in Puerto Rico. Well, the thing that he has in common with you, first of all, I want to say he got us smoothies, which is real nice. We probably should have got him a little blizzy. A little blizzy. Sergius, let me tell you one thing. This is the first time you've come up.
Starting point is 00:08:49 We've been doing this podcast 55, 56 episodes in over a year. Not once, not once has Giannis ever brought me anything. The first time you come in, you bring two smoothies. I got to be honest with you, man. I don't do a lot of podcasts. I was like, at least if I bring smoothies, I could do at least 10 minutes on that. I'm just trying to buy time. Doing podcasts to me is like a new comment going on stage for the first time.
Starting point is 00:09:11 Yo, the disrespect. I know we're your boys. I'm trying to buy 10 minutes by making smoothie jokes. Yo, I know we're your boys, but the disrespect of you to come in wearing your workout shit is OD. This shit is film, yo, bro. That's the same shit I trained with you. And you told me you were going home.
Starting point is 00:09:27 I did go home. To freshen up. I did go home. Now you went home to feed your snake. Yo, I'm glad it's not my black sweater that would have had pit bull hair on it. You can't see it with this sweater. How many animals do you have?
Starting point is 00:09:38 I have two cats. One is a Persian. We bought her 500 bucks off of some woman in the Bronx. And she was wild because she had like 30 Persian cats. And she was like, if they get out of line, you whoop them. I'm like, yeah, you whoop them because they're naughty. Yeah. Yo, I was like, but it was like a two week old cat.
Starting point is 00:09:56 How do you whoop a cat? So you got two cats. I got two cats. The other one's a Venus. It's a rescue. It's a mutt. Yo, I got a pit bull that has got from Tennessee. And I got five snakes.
Starting point is 00:10:06 Yo. So listen, if you don't think that surrounding yourselves with that many animals like that is a subconscious way to protect you from your addictions, you got another thing coming. If you don't think that having that many animals in your apartment illegally without licenses is a midlife crisis, you got another thing coming. It's definitely a midlife crisis because I owned animals as a kid and they made me feel good. I just want to feel good. If you don't think that
Starting point is 00:10:29 a guy who's got four or more illegal animals in his apartment also doesn't have a Puerto Rican flag outside his window, you got another thing coming. Those things go together. You know these snakes? I think people will find this interesting. They're delivered via FedEx from Florida. Florida's a dirtbag state. They don't give you anything. You can get
Starting point is 00:10:45 guns, all sorts of methamphetamine, and your snakes come in packages like this. Is there a snake in there? No, no. I just got this. I thought you brought the snake with you home. Like a live snake will come in a box, in a priority
Starting point is 00:11:02 mailbox. How does it not die? Well, they're amazing creatures, man. So they'll deliver a snake to you and guarantee a live arrival. But it's so funny to have a FedEx worker with purple shorts on, knocking on my door. He's like, package for you. It's a snake. It's like a fucking hognose snake. You don't worry at all about, like when you go on the road with me, about one of your
Starting point is 00:11:25 snakes getting out of the cages and attacking your family? No, man. I'm a responsible human being, man. I lock the cage. These snakes are well handled by me and the family members. They're not venomous. Be honest with me. Be honest with me right now.
Starting point is 00:11:35 I'm getting defensive. Yo, true or false? I got a little bad. Yo, tell me the truth. At one point in your life, you were raising a baby alligator in your bathtub. Tell me the truth. A caiman. Let's not get it twisted. A caiman is an alligator, right? were raising a baby alligator in your bathtub. Tell me the truth. A caiman, unless I got to twist it. A caiman is an alligator, right?
Starting point is 00:11:47 Is a caiman an alligator? Yeah. The dirt bag thing you told me once when you told me a couple of weeks ago when we were in D.C. about that thing you went on, that low-riding boat in Florida with you, your daughter, and your wife. I definitely have put my daughter. And the alligators could have came. I mean, he told me, like, literally, it was like a foot off the ground. Alligators could have come in and eaten everybody. It was that crocodile
Starting point is 00:12:07 land or something. Alligator land. You know, some of these things that. Yeah, but you're comfortable. You're comfortable with nature. That's the thing. My daughter was only like two years old and I went to visit my in-laws and we're like in a small ass canoe. Were you doing blizzy at the time making bad decisions? Let's be honest. Surge thinks
Starting point is 00:12:23 about Sur Serge first. Yeah, so I'm thinking like, I want to fuck with some crocodiles and alligators. You don't give a fuck that you're with your seed. Yo, my seed was that young. Yo. You know when the seed is so young? And they're frolicky. Yeah, like frolicky.
Starting point is 00:12:35 They don't have no control. They're biting their heads and they're like mad fine. Like the way Yannis' hair looks. Yeah, he got baby girl hair. He got baby hair. It looks fine. No, he's got- It looks sore.
Starting point is 00:12:44 He's got little girl hair yeah yeah i kind of want to touch it yeah it looks so like it was thicker and yeah it looked like it was lighter as you were younger yeah and it's like got darker yours looks fine like you've had your head since birth like that same like his hair never shed like that's the hair he's born with this always stayed like that exactly i got toddler's hair is what you got toddler's hair she had the crazy toddler hair and i had her in this like canoe and like, it was infested.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Like, we went in, 15 minutes, I was like, this shit's kind of whack. There's nothing here. And then the guy started doing something, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:15 like some fucking alligator noise and then put his oar and started waking them up and it was like, literally, infested waters. We were like, he was making them jump out the water
Starting point is 00:13:24 and I had a fucking, my daughter was like, a year, two years old.. We were like, he was making them jump out the water. And I had a fucking, my daughter was like a year, two years old. Even you were scared, you said. Scared for my life. The thing about alligators, crocodiles, you don't know they're there. That's how they do it. Yeah. They just like, like if you like, there's a bunch of videos where, like, the water is completely calm, and then some dude comes and rattles a stick, and there are, like, 15 alligators.
Starting point is 00:13:48 You can see a few videos like that on YouTube. It's crazy. Yeah, we got to look at a few videos. Because that's what they rely on, stealth. They just fucking quiet. You're swimming along. You think everything's good, and then bang. That's what boxing relies on, stealth.
Starting point is 00:13:57 Yeah, ambush predators. Well, some boxes, right? Like, you know, some boxes are, you said boxes. Boxers, yeah. Yeah, some boxes are super aggressive other boxes kind of set traps and wait for you yo let's let me be crystal clear and honest with you the main reason i come to the gym where you box at is because a lot of the girls in there got fat ass that's why i come and throw hands with you on specific days because yo yo i've never seen
Starting point is 00:14:20 chris do like a 360 he does he does like Jackson spins. Spins. Looking at these girls. He's not even discreet. Yeah. He's embarrassing. No, Giannis is embarrassing when he's like, yo, I cracked that open and clean. When he gets his head up and he comes, he's like a turtle coming out of the shell. His baby hair fucking shoots up like a cockatiel. Yo, it's embarrassing, right? When he sees dudes, he goes like this.
Starting point is 00:14:39 But I'm creepy, right, with mine? I'm a little creepy, yeah. He's just a bit older and you you just kind of stare them down. Yeah, and his glasses get mad funny. We can't see where you're staring at. It's weird, right? Yeah, it's weird, man. You think Chris has an addiction with it?
Starting point is 00:14:55 With the puss? With the puss. He's very aware of it. He's got a grip on it, but he doesn't have a grip on it, if that makes any sense. Yeah, I got a grip on it. I don't have a grip. Yeah. It's like he's aware, but he's still going still gonna go like that to that bag you know hit that bag
Starting point is 00:15:08 hit that blizzy that's his blizzy then right toots yo honestly man what you've worked with sergio so much i've worked with sergio so much yo serge is a fucking knowledgeable kid serge is a smart fucking kid serge is i know he sounds like he went to devry but he's a fucking knowledgeable kid. Serge is a smart fucking kid. I know he sounds like he went to DeVry, but he's a fucking smart kid. Serge is a motivated. Apex Technical School. He's motivated. Serge is a hard worker. He's motivated,
Starting point is 00:15:35 hardworking. He pushes forward. He's perceptive. He's smart. Most of all, let's be honest. You said you don't bring him on the road anymore because he's too loud in the car. I knew the hammer was coming. Let's be honest. You said you don't bring him on the road anymore because he's too loud in the car. I knew the hammer was coming. Let's be honest. Giannis got a speeding ticket and he blamed it on Sergio. It was your fault.
Starting point is 00:15:53 No, he's joking. He's said that many times over. He's joking. He's joking. But the thing about Serge that's funny, Serge is one of the funniest, naturally funniest dudes. But I guarantee you on the way to this podcast, he was stressing it. He was stressing out. Yo, how am I going to get to do
Starting point is 00:16:10 my first 10 minutes? Yo, should I do my pitbull bit? Damn, was Giannis going to He was doing that pitbull bit. That pitbull has been dead for 20 years. I got a new pitbull just to do the pitbull bit. Yo, he still does bits about his daughter being in a stroller. She's 18.
Starting point is 00:16:28 I said the same thing to Angela yo it's hard man I know it's hard to come up with new shit no for real and then I finally tag it up
Starting point is 00:16:33 and it's like yo this shit's 8 years old no bro you've been ripping though I would say since we've been together you've been ripping
Starting point is 00:16:39 no I appreciate it I gotta be honest with you like I appreciate you guys not only as comics who I really do enjoy watching, but because you guys give me a pulse back into the community again. I never stop. But having that platform that you guys work off of is dope
Starting point is 00:16:53 because I start to fall in love with stand-up all over again. And it's like I get my rhythm back when I'm working with you. And it's just fun to be on the road. It's fun. I'm having fun again. It's good to be on the road like stay healthy again yeah you know it's good to go on the road i love bringing sergio on the road because not only does he rip but i stay healthy on the road if i go with other guys if i go by myself it's inevitably i don't work out as much i eat like shit but like to have a guy there who's got his health in check
Starting point is 00:17:17 helps me let's make one thing is certain about chris he knows exactly what he's doing brings me on the road so i can train him for free! He's a smart guy! And I don't even get you, I don't even pay for your room. I make you stay in the room with me. I get an extra bed, but I snore mad loud and I interrupt your whole fucking routine. He farts like mass smoothie farts.
Starting point is 00:17:37 The most dirtbag shit Sergio ever did is I got food poisoning in Houston after I sucked a guy's dick. I got food poisoning out there and I was throwing up. Yeah. Puking. And then I had to,
Starting point is 00:17:48 I fucking somehow got through the shows, but like, it was bad. Like I thought it was going to have to cancel the show at the comedy club because I couldn't perform. And then I finally feel better. We'll go back. Well,
Starting point is 00:17:58 first of all, I'm throwing up in the parking lot. Sergio is smoking cigarettes, blowing cigarettes, smoking my face. American spirit. I evolved. He used to be Newport. He's like, you want to go for a walk pot? As he cigarettes, blowing cigarettes in my face. American spirit though. See, I evolved. He used to be Newport.
Starting point is 00:18:06 He's like, yo, you want to go for a walk, pop? As he's blowing cigarettes smoke in my face, I got puke on my chin. I'm like, yo, put the cigarette down. Then when we get back
Starting point is 00:18:12 to the hotel room, this guy brings a fucking chicken sandwich and fries with mad onions and sauce. Stinks up the whole fucking room and I throw up again. Yo, just looking at him, I never blink my eyes
Starting point is 00:18:22 while eating a sandwich. Yo, because it's always Sergio first, right? No, you know what it is? You, the thing about you, these masks, oh, yo, you want to know what a mask is? Yo, you looking at him, I never blink my eyes while eating a sandwich. No, because it's always Sergio first, right? No, you know what it is? The thing about you... He's mad soft. Yo, you know who else is mad soft? Mad Dog Madder and Hey Bird. This is the thing about Chris.
Starting point is 00:18:35 Chris likes to... Chris is bobs and weaves, right? So he throws the charisma around. He makes all the jokes, but the truth is Chris is all about Chris. If you're around Chris, he's getting something out of it. Yeah. And he'll deflect and call you a dirtbag. But really, you know, Chris will, you know, he'll buy you a smoothie.
Starting point is 00:18:53 He'll bring you a piece of pizza. But most importantly, Chris is feeding his own face. Feeding. Yeah. Yeah. He's a hungry kid. And Chris is about Chris. It's the only way to lower your protrude out a little more.
Starting point is 00:19:03 Yeah. He's a German kid and he looks at us like swarthy trash yeah like when you look you look at me we don't need we're not even human to you yeah if you guys noticed there's a lot of times where i have a napkin up to my face when i'm talking to you guys because i get nauseous yeah yeah you just you need us around because and you look at us as slaves yo remember the time remember the time fucking, yo, the funniest thing, too, that happened. Well, I don't know if it's funny on the podcast, but when I got mad nervous in the elevator in Providence and I tried to make fun of the Chargers and I bombed. Yeah, we did that on the podcast.
Starting point is 00:19:34 We talked about it. Not without Sergio. I was there for the repeat listeners, man. I was there when Chris. The thing is that, so as we stand up, like, you can't think about it too much, right? We all know that, right? Right. And I think what happened was that Chris saw the thing is that, so it was with standup, like you can't think about it too much, right? We all know that, right? Right.
Starting point is 00:19:46 And I think what happened was that Chris saw the football plays. This is like Superbowl weekend. No, no, it was our AFC championship. It was like playoffs, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:54 So Chris saw the players like two times before and he was working himself up. He's getting himself like energized. He definitely wants to entertain them. He wants to get them to a point where they will laugh at some shit that he said. And we were on the elevator and you were like, yeah, you guys are going to win. And if you guys want to come to my show tonight. I got mad Tom Brady jokes.
Starting point is 00:20:14 And you said it. Yo, and they like all looked to the side and they got their asses busted. Yo, you got you became real dirty. Like your head wants to leave your body quick. Yeah. Yeah. He got like, yo. And then they got their asses busted. Yo, you got, you became real darty. Like your head wants to leave your body so quick. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:27 He got like. Yo, and then I tried, and then I tried to work out. The door couldn't open fast enough for you. Yo, man. And I remember sweating on the treadmill, man. Fat tits. Yeah. It was a dart.
Starting point is 00:20:36 That was a good time though. Giannis laying on his stomach in his underwear on the phone being nonchalant. Remember that? Yo, Giannis wears briefs that are baggy. You wear baggy briefs. They're supposed to be tight. on the phone being nonchalant. Remember that? Every time we came back to the room, like a princess. You wear baggy briefs. They're supposed to be tight. I can tell you wear your underwears for four days straight because they're bag in the back.
Starting point is 00:20:51 Yeah, sometimes what's happened is I have lost and put on so much weight that, you know, I have... You look good now, though. I got different clothes that like have been stretched out or two, you know, sometimes I'll have a medium shirt.
Starting point is 00:21:04 Those are from my, when I was one 93, right now I'm back up to two Oh six, right. But I still got the same medium white tees. So I got underwears where I had it. I had a waist 32. Now I'm back up to a 34 and sometimes I'll just wear the waist.
Starting point is 00:21:18 32 is now that I'm a 34. And sometimes I'll wear the baggy ones when I, I got all sizes cause my weight fluctuates. I'm a fat kid. I know all your white te teeth have your armpit stains. They do. And they're too tight. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:28 They're too tight. Yeah. Yeah. But with Serge, what I was fascinated by, why I wanted to have him on the podcast is because when we were- Because you wanted to train today. Yeah. I wanted to train today.
Starting point is 00:21:39 It just makes it easier. If I can get him, if I could get in with him from 12 to one, and then he just comes at two, it's just, you know what I mean? mean it just it just works on my day um i know you have to get babysitters and all that i really don't care um complete inconvenience but i'm happy to be here but you inspired me remember we were talking in dc about you i realized i didn't know anything about che guevara i just would see him on t-shirts and just you know people would tweet him and be like che che che and i was like oh yeah who's this and then you inspired me to watch this documentary I just would see him on t-shirts and just, you know, people would tweet him and be like, Che, Che, Che. And I was like, who's this?
Starting point is 00:22:06 And then you inspired me to watch this documentary. You enjoyed it? No, I didn't read the book, but I watched this eight-part documentary on Cuba called Cuba Libre from the beginning till now. And it was fucking unbelievable. It really is, right? And you read the book. Yeah. That book by John Lee Anderson took me like a year to complete.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Did you read it on the toilet? How do you read a book like that? Fuck, man. It took a long time. Because like you. Because there's like terms you don't understand. It's like a real heavily. It's a politically heavy.
Starting point is 00:22:33 Like it's a. So you would just have to stop. Google that word. I would have to stop. Yeah. And this is like in 2001. I read that shit so long ago. So I took my time with it.
Starting point is 00:22:41 Yo. And you were born on September 11th, Pop. That's a dirtbag birthday. That's a dirtbag birthday. That's a dirtbag birthday. It didn't used to be. It was a good one. Yeah. No, right?
Starting point is 00:22:49 No, it was never a good birthday. You know why? Because it was always the first day of school. So I always had nervous energy on my birthday. Butterflies, but crispy kicks. Yeah, you always had nervous energy. Yeah, because you had new birthday kicks. And a haircut.
Starting point is 00:23:01 Yeah. Yo. Nervous energy. Yeah. You ever see old pictures of Serge with hair? No. He had a sick blowout. He had to shave up. Yo, Serge is a good looking cat. Serge is a Had a haircut. Yeah. Yo. Nervous energy. Yeah. You ever see old pictures of Serge with hair? No. He had a sick blowout. He had to shave up.
Starting point is 00:23:07 Yo, Serge is a good looking cat. Serge is a good looking kid. Yeah. He looks good bald too. Yeah. He does look good bald. Yo, they said I look like Pete Dominic though. I look like a healthier Pete Dominic.
Starting point is 00:23:16 Yo. You do. Pete Dominic's bitter. We both got a lot of mouth. That's the similarity. He has an alien head, but we both have the mouth. Big ass mouth. It's like a wet mouth.
Starting point is 00:23:25 It always looks wet. My mouth always looks wet. Yeah, you just have the shape of your mouth, but you know what? It's deceptive because your teeth, you got good teeth.
Starting point is 00:23:34 I don't have bad teeth. What I have is upper lips that's too short and it spills a lot of teeth. Like my teeth shouldn't be out all day. I'm really like, really, really,
Starting point is 00:23:41 but they're out. They're out all day. I'm really happy that your daughter looks Almost 100% like your wife Yeah that would be weird Because to have another face out In the world like that
Starting point is 00:23:50 Would be real fucking annoying One thing about Liz Your daughter looks exactly Like your wife So it's great I know one thing about Liz Her side of the family My wife
Starting point is 00:23:57 They have nice high cheekbones I know them I'm very sloopy Your daughter's beautiful Your wife's beautiful But if your kid looked like you I'd be really agitated You would be offended.
Starting point is 00:24:05 I'd be offended. I'm like, I don't even want to look at your Instagram. I can't look at that face anymore. It's just better for her in her life that she looks like Liz. You're right. She's going to move around differently when Liz is famous.
Starting point is 00:24:14 A lot more confident. If she was moving around with your overbite and that look. She would be on the blizzy. Yo. Yo. I dated a girl who looked just like me. You.
Starting point is 00:24:24 Some girl from Brooklyn bro we both had overbites our teeth used to be like it was a battle we started like yo yo I swear to god
Starting point is 00:24:31 it was like you have a teeth teeth teeth I've hooked up with a couple girls who just their teeth were too big and you just hit
Starting point is 00:24:37 yeah can you imagine if she had the same overbite as me yeah like that did she have lips she had big nice lips
Starting point is 00:24:44 but we just both had a big tea yeah you kept knocking into each other yeah um wait so so when when you read that book what did the the crazy thing you told me tell them about how um people used to get tortured the one thing that i found like interesting about che is like a lot of people thought that he was cuban and he was this like well-to-do kid from Argentina. He's an Argentine kid, right? Yeah. And his family was upper class.
Starting point is 00:25:12 And what I really found inspiring about him, because I was never really into even my Puerto Rican history. What I found interesting is that he was a privileged kid that took it upon himself in the middle of going to medical school, get a motorbike with his friend and tour Latin America. And that's why he had his political awakening. So he started all these people. So it started out just like a vacation, some cool shit to do to enlightenment. He wasn't anything political aspirations yet. Right.
Starting point is 00:25:37 And I found that to be like, like moving the fact that he just took it upon himself just to, you know, visit different parts of Latin America. Right. And in his travels, he's seen like people living like dirtbag lives because the United States had their like, what he would call their tentacles all over the place. Right. And the rich who were rich in this country were super dirtbag rich and the poor were like dirtbag poor.
Starting point is 00:25:59 And there was no movement. Like there was no way you could have like move on. So that inspired you. So, yeah, I thought. There was no way you could have moved on. So that inspired you. I guess not that much because you read the book in 2001 and proceeded to blizzy and drink beers and contribute to your addictions for another 15 or so more years. I even took a line off that John Lee Anderson chain book.
Starting point is 00:26:17 Yo, off page 35, it's got blizzy stains. You know what I'm saying? Come from a razor blade. So I found that interesting. That's a selfless act. And you don't hear about that I never knew of a leader that did that
Starting point is 00:26:27 or started so young because there was no absolutely no reason for him to do it right he was already so that felt like very human to me
Starting point is 00:26:33 like empathetic and compassionate I was like holy shit so he had you know he was a doctor so he would cure people
Starting point is 00:26:39 for free you know and he would help people and it also helped I think what also helped his legend too, like many other things, he was a great looking guy. So that's why he's like, everywhere
Starting point is 00:26:50 it's like, I feel like when I was watching that documentary at some point, Fidel made him, Fidel Castro made him like one of the face of the revolution at one point, simply because of what he looked like. I mean, of course. He loved the puss. He was like Chrissy D. He loved the puss. Did he really? Yeah, he loved the puss. Well, they loved him.
Starting point is 00:27:05 I mean, look at what he looked like. Google Che Guevara. He's a handsome kid. Yeah, yeah. He had a whack beard, though. He didn't have a beard like Yanis. Yanis got a majestic king beard. With that little gray patch.
Starting point is 00:27:14 If you think that he doesn't know about that and he leaves it there on purpose, you got another thing coming. That shit's smooth, though. I should keep the beard, right? Keep the beard and keep the gray patch. It looks good. You could get... See, I shaped mine up.
Starting point is 00:27:24 Like, I put my finger here and I got you just kind of let it grow out like that's majestic shit should I should I should I straighten it out
Starting point is 00:27:32 I mean you should but you don't know how to do it I don't know how to do it you're gonna be moving around like you know with a crooked ass beard then you're gonna be
Starting point is 00:27:37 your head is gonna be offset then you have one eye and fucking a crooked beard and it's gonna look good does it look good though not shaped up I personally think it looks good I mean just
Starting point is 00:27:44 clean up the neck a little bit clean it up that shit goes down to your nipples but honestly we're talking about beards here here's something
Starting point is 00:27:50 about Che supposed to be talking about Che so Che what the fuck we're talking about oh yeah so he was
Starting point is 00:27:55 you got a bad memory because you get hit in the head and you got a tiny finger because you sawed it off yo I got a big head
Starting point is 00:28:01 for boxing I should have this size head and want to participate in that sport I got short arms and a big head for boxing. I should have this size head and want to participate in that sport. Because you're going to eat the target. I got short arms and a big head for boxing. You look like a T-Rex.
Starting point is 00:28:09 You have no. I look like a T-Rex. Yo, my defense is impeccable. Mike Tyson, boys. No, for real. No, you do have good defense. You know what I mean? Yo, there's been a couple of times where if you don't think I've known this,
Starting point is 00:28:23 there's been a couple of times where you've been training me and helping me out working on defense and you've purposely hit me with punches. You don't move your head, bro. Your head is too big. One time you hit me and I felt that shit in my jaw. You fucked me up on the podcast. You fucked my money, Holmes. Yee. Yo, but Che is controversial.
Starting point is 00:28:42 Super controversial. Well, I mean, I think all the Cuban, I mean, even Yo, but Che is controversial. Super controversial. Super controversial. Well, I mean, I think all the Cuban, I mean, even Fidel Castro is extremely controversial. But you talk to some people, they're like, we don't see anything wrong with what he did. Right. Depends who you're talking to. So it's interesting, right? So then Che goes on and he meets Fidel, right?
Starting point is 00:29:01 And Fidel, you know, and they- This is like the 1950s we're talking. Yeah, the 40s, the 50s, right? And, you know, they bring up a team of like 60 to 80 heads, get on a boat, and they pretty much fucking overthrow like the government of Cuba. Long story short. Yeah, Batista. And that shit was gangster the way they did it, because they only had 80 motherfuckers, right? And then they go and they're like hiding in the sugar cane fields.
Starting point is 00:29:24 You know, like half the army died. They make their way up to the mountains. And these guys were influential. They were like, yeah, it's mean. Mean street. They were smart. So they got these peasants, what they would call peasants, working the cattle in the mountains. And they go, we're going to free you guys.
Starting point is 00:29:36 We're going to give you guys arms. We're going to give you your just due. And they did that. And then they penetrated and eventually overthrew the government. Because the leader at that time, Batista, was pretty much running a dictatorship. Yeah, absolutely. At that point. Which was always like a strong relationship with the United States.
Starting point is 00:29:51 Always. Super touristy. Yeah. Mobsters used to hang around Havana. And then you had these people in the mountains, which made up most of Cuba. Well, that's the thing. That's the thing. You have the time with Cuba.
Starting point is 00:30:00 What I, you know, first of all, like Cuba, you know, even like the fact that they speak Spanish is just because Spain, the country of Spain, ruled them for like 300 years. You know, they were just island people. They they, you know, they were very they had all, you know, science doctors. They had all these great things that they did before the Spanish came. The Spanish came and conquered them for 300 years. Right. And then the United States helped them get their freedom from Spain finally. And it lasted about a year where Cuba was completely free.
Starting point is 00:30:31 And then the US, without being so direct about it, indirectly enslaved the Cubans again through corporations. They made them all, you know, the sugar cane. The sugar was the big thing where pretty much 100% of Cubans had to work, you know, to export the sugar. So that's where when Batista comes in, who's like, you know, the pretty much the U.S. puppet. That's why Castro and Che and these revolutionaries come in and say, no, we were just ruled by Spain for 300 years. We're not going to be ruled by the United States. And really, for a good amount of time, like 20, 30 years, Cuba, who nowadays and for most of our modern history, looks at the U.S. as enemies. For about 20, 30 years, Cuba looked at the United States as allies and best friends because they were helping them get rid of Spain.
Starting point is 00:31:19 And they were coming in and saying, we want to help you, want to do this. But then that slowly shifted. And then, of course, when Castro came in, you know, USA became public enemy number one. Right. But, but, but, but, and that's Sierra Madre. Also Cuba, you know, at this time it was the Cold War. So it was like, just certain
Starting point is 00:31:35 countries were, you know, Team America, certain countries were Team USSR. Yeah, well that was, but the Cold War haven't even started yet when Castro was in those mountains with, with Che. Oh, no. We were in full swing. Well, it was full swing. But I'm saying Cuba wasn't it wasn't interest to Russia yet. No, not yet. But but it was kind of. Yeah, it was kind of because there was that element there and Russia was supporting it. Right. So there were there was these all these proxy wars happening in Cuba was right.
Starting point is 00:32:02 Cuba was, you know, on the front lines of that proxy war well yeah i mean well without i mean cuba i mean russian backed those kids russia was back in those kids of course cuba i mean cuba had their nukes there uh russia had their nukes there but even when they were rising up it was like support was coming from russia yeah it was it was i think ussr yeah the ussr um i i but there was a time where the us and cuba were getting along and then fucking we opened up as soon as though as soon as those make no mistake as soon as those borders opened up again and we were allowed to go to cuba sergio chacon was on one of the first flights that couldn't wait you couldn't wait to get to cuba yeah i was i was i i was definitely interested in visiting the place.
Starting point is 00:32:46 First of all, Cuba has some of the best boxers out there. The amateur team is off the hooks. I want to experience that, but I also want to just experience Cuba and see how they really live. What did you think of Cuba when you went? Also, baseball players. Let's not make a mistake. I mean, some of the best. So, you know, what Che and Fidel want to do, what they had, like, really in common, they wanted to, like, I feel, especially in the beginning of the revolution, they want to, like, redesign, like, mankind.
Starting point is 00:33:17 And, like, they want to be self-sufficient. They didn't want to, they want to, like, grow with their own land. They don't want to have to fucking rely on the United States. They want to do everything themselves. And that's admirable because the United States always has their foot somewhere, right? And their heel on someone's neck telling them what to do. And for Castro to be like, no, fuck that. We're not doing that.
Starting point is 00:33:39 Even though they have backing from Russia, I just thought that was fucking like, damn, these guys ain't taking no shit. They yeah doing what the hell they want to do and like they were cuban for a long time had free medical you know free education and everyone was on like an even playing field a lot of people didn't like that because they lost their businesses and whatever right and you know you know a lot of people but were not happy with that but i think that's like an interesting like yeah you know i think you still get a sense of that, too. Well, Cubans who are out there. Yeah, well, because in Cuba, I mean, the kind of adage about it is like they always feel like they're in a revolution.
Starting point is 00:34:14 Like that's the spirit of those people. They always feel like they're revolting against something. And the fight is like never over. That's what Castro used to say a lot. He would just say, like, this war, it's never going to end right it's so so the people believe that and then I think with Che what I found fascinating with Che is he must have gotten like that revolutionary bug because then he just started to revolutionize wanted to start revolutions in Bolivia right then he wanted to do one in the Congo right like places that had nothing to do he somehow make it like, Oh, this has something to do with Cuba,
Starting point is 00:34:46 but it really didn't. He just, he just, it felt like he got a little revolutionary crazy. Yeah. He was saying that that's the thing. Like a lot of people, for a long time for they'll kind of wore this hat. Like, what are you? What's this revolution? What's this revolutionary me? And they said, Oh, we're going to have a, you know, people are going to be able to elect their own officials that never happened. Right. And they never, he never said're going to have, you know, people are going to be able to elect their own officials. That never happened, right?
Starting point is 00:35:05 And he never said that he was a socialist, communist. They were like, what are you doing? Yo, Che was pretty upfront. Now I'm a communist. Everything is, you know, everyone gets- Because Castro would say, I'm not a communist. Yeah, for a long time he didn't say that. And I think there was a little friction between them.
Starting point is 00:35:19 There's like, it never really, there's no real information on it, but Che did try to internationalize the revolution, and it failed multiple times. He went to the Congo. These motherfuckers believed in voodoo. He's an antichrist. He was like, no, this is about people.
Starting point is 00:35:34 There's no such thing as voodoo dolls and all this shit. Yeah, because they weren't about religion. Cubans are not really. People think they're big religious. Castro didn't believe in religion. Communism, it's a big part of communism. Yeah, exactly. No, but there's a lot of Catholics in Cuba now. So it's like,
Starting point is 00:35:47 you can easily think, oh, it's a Spanish or Latino community. Oh, they're not. They're not. Yeah. They don't believe in it at all. They could play baseball, though. Those kids can play baseball. El Duque? El Duque was nasty. But some of the boxers, too, like, they're not aggressive, but they're
Starting point is 00:36:03 super tactical. and it's interesting because that's the way like the cuban government or the revolutionary kind of operated so their fighters kind of reflect that you know it's in their smart they use their legs like it's interesting how they got some of the best fighters when he was in bolivia there was the penalty for who somebody somebody ratted him out right Wasn't there like a turncoat in their crew, in Che's crew? Allegedly? I don't recall. I just know that he tried many times over
Starting point is 00:36:31 to internationalize the revolution, but he ended up in Bolivia, and it was said that Fidel Castro was so busy in Cuba doing shit that he stopped financing and helping. They were on their own in Bolivia. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:46 And the US was behind that. You know what I'm saying? They were all about getting Che. And yeah, he had like 12 men in this fucking, these harsh conditions. They caught his ass.
Starting point is 00:36:56 Yeah, they caught him and they killed him. Yeah, his body was never found. His hands were. Yeah, but they actually never found his body. Yeah. Oh no, they found his body.
Starting point is 00:37:03 They never found his hands. Someone got his hands like as a trophy. But didn't you say, but remember, what about the body, they never found his hand. Someone got his hand as a trophy. But didn't you say, what about the thing where they would tie them to the post with the honey? Remember that story you told me? Going back to what Yanis said, Che is looked at as a hero because he's considered a humanitarian. He's a humanist to the point where who sacrifices his own life for another human's better living, right?
Starting point is 00:37:28 But on the flip side... He killed some humans, too. He killed a lot. And, like, it's vicious. Like, granted, like, were these warlords? Were these fucking guys who committed treason? Who knows? But, like, some of the shit that went down,
Starting point is 00:37:42 like, you're tying dudes... They said they tied dudes to, like, and, and dumped honey all over them. Oh boy. Decided let's let the red ants get old red ants. So they got eaten alive by red ants. Shit like that. Took days to kill the, kill you. Right.
Starting point is 00:37:57 Oh, that's brutal. Yeah. That's that. When he told me that I was like, Whoa. Cause they eat you. They'll just eat you slowly. You ever get bit by one red ant? That's just painful.
Starting point is 00:38:07 They're actually, they kill the most red ants kill the most and you know nature. They consume the most. And I believe it's the red ant that has not a 99.9, a 100% kill rate. I think it's 100. It's never been observed in nature where they haven't set up for a kill and not killed it.
Starting point is 00:38:22 If they get on you, you're done. Don't get loud. If someone Googles it, they're like, there's no red. Yeah, if they get on you, you're done. You're just done. Someone Googles it. They're like, there's no red ants in Cuba. I'm like, oh, my bad. Yeah. No, people will hate on you. I meant bees.
Starting point is 00:38:32 Yeah, I meant termites. Don't judge me. Yo, Governor Patterson was a good mayor. Yo. That's a callback, God. That's a callback right there. Yo, let me ask you. When you went to Cuba, did you see?
Starting point is 00:38:44 Turnpike. You're early in the podcast, too podcast you made a mistake within the first three minutes I like this movie was that the last podcast I think it was the end of the last one Patterson it was the last one
Starting point is 00:38:58 people are going to know what the fuck we're talking about no they know because they heard that one too when you went to Cuba is Chase still immortalized there No, they know because they heard that one too. When you went to Cuba, did you, do they still, like, is Che still immortalized there? Yeah, well, you know, the funny thing is, I went with two, you know, it's hilarious. I went with my two buddies
Starting point is 00:39:14 and they're white, right? But they like no more Spanish than me. It's fucking pathetic. Like, I'm like hiding behind them like that. And they're like navigating me to a fucking Spanish-speaking country. It's embarrassing. It made you question some of your decisions as you've grown up. Yeah, I mean, like, you know, basically me to a fucking Spanish speaking country it's embarrassing it made you question
Starting point is 00:39:26 some of your decisions yeah I mean like basically I'm a fucking fraud is what I'm trying to tell you I'm a personal trainer who smokes American spirit cigarettes
Starting point is 00:39:33 instead of yeah I'm a fucking fraud honestly you're a Puerto Rican who doesn't speak Spanish yeah instead of throwing
Starting point is 00:39:39 fucking body shots at drug dealers you could have fucking picked up a Rosetta Stone let me tell you something it wasn't a body shot. When I robbed that drug dealer in 2002, it was headshots. Yo, this guy robbed a drug dealer.
Starting point is 00:39:50 Yo, he's a different person when he's on that blizzy. But he's off. He's living good. So what happened when you put out to Cuba? What happened? Oh, so, you know, I didn't really get that education out there. When I went out there, it was for like six days. It's beautiful. I'll tell you something about the people.
Starting point is 00:40:05 Fat asses, right? Jesus Christ. I'm trying to go to you. I mean, yeah. You're like, yeah, all them fat asses. Honestly, I didn't, some beautiful woman,
Starting point is 00:40:14 but I didn't see like, what I felt off the bat is safe. I was kidding. No, no, you're an animal and you will go there and flaunt your money and looks to try to conquer the woman.
Starting point is 00:40:23 That's what he would do. El Gakito. Yeah. Right. It's in you. They get cute and shit. It the women. El Gakito. It's in you. It's German. It's in you. You're conditioned to behave and move around like that. You can't help yourself. So right off the bat, I felt safe. Anywhere I went,
Starting point is 00:40:38 what seems like a gutter, a project, a ghetto, it's actually just very old buildings. The place is suspended in time. It's dirt and rubble, some of these places where they live. Cars from the 50s, right? Yeah, cars from the 50s. So you walk through there, you're like, this shit looks scary.
Starting point is 00:40:52 But then, you know, you see like fucking broken mortar. Like, you know, this shit looks fucking wasted. Like war torn. It almost kind of looks like a little bit like a war torn, but it's just more old and decrepit more than anything. And people playing dominoes in the front. They're playing music. They seem relatively happy. I didn't see any drunks in the street.
Starting point is 00:41:11 I didn't see anyone panhandling. I didn't see any violence. Were you in Havana too? Yes. I went to a lot of different places, a few different places. And that's the one thing. None of those things were highlighted. No violence, no drunk people no like
Starting point is 00:41:25 people panhandling so there's something to be said about the people they're very they're full of a lot of pride what about like walking down like restaurants and stuff
Starting point is 00:41:32 open you could run in and out of stores my friends did some really good research and we hit some really good spots like for food but there's some
Starting point is 00:41:39 dirtbag spots because they're limited resources you could eat some shitty food right Angelo hated it. Yeah, boy, Angelo went there.
Starting point is 00:41:47 Angelo told me he hated it. Why did Angelo go out there? Angelo's also an arrogant owl. He's an arrogant owl, yeah. Yo. But he said the food was horrible. Yeah. He said the food was horrible.
Starting point is 00:41:55 A lot of people say that. He said the same thing. It was like a lot of nostalgic beauty, kind of looking back in time. And there's some beautiful old 50s facades. After a while, it's like art deco i want to take my family there he said the food was awful he said the people were all right they weren't that like great friend what about like a hotel like could you stay in like a nice ass four-star hotel or beat it okay what was the house nice the airbnb it was a whack
Starting point is 00:42:19 the first place we stayed that was dope and it it was really nice. My bad. My memory was of the last place. And it was like, they had some hummingbirds in the backyard. That was really cool. That fucks with hummingbirds. You. You know the actual humming is coming from the wings, right? Yo, I didn't know that. It doesn't come from their mouth.
Starting point is 00:42:38 No, it's from the wings, pa. Wow. Yo, so that's a Snapple fact. That's a Snapple fact right there. So you would go back, though, you said. I would go back, but I would go to further my education on their history. Are they educated, like the Cuban people? Do they know all about their Cuban history, you think?
Starting point is 00:42:55 Or as much as an American kid would know about their own history? No, no, no. They definitely know their shit out there. Do you still see pictures of Castro and Che, other revolutionaries? They're still there. Yeah. They're up all over the island. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:43:11 But now what's happening is, so there was an embargo put on them. So they weren't able to trade with the United States. Yeah, that's why they got stuck in time. Exactly. So now that's kind of being somewhat, not that it's been lifted, but they're able to, put it like this, they're able to, put it like this. They're able to do Airbnb now. They were never able to do, like, have their own business going on.
Starting point is 00:43:29 So a lot of things are happening. But you won't see, you still, you can't see, like, a new car out there. Nah, you won't see that shit. They're not shipping it over there. No, but, you know, people are, they're a lot more lenient. The government's a lot more lenient with them opening smaller businesses. I'm not sure how it works, but there's a ration. They still have, what do they call that?
Starting point is 00:43:48 A ration. They're rationing out food? Yeah. So you go to a convenience store in Cuba, and I'm like, finally I get some food. And they have these women who are like, scantily dressed. Weird.
Starting point is 00:44:04 Like, they over employ the convenience stores like a bunch of workers and all they sell is Cocoa Krispies and cocktail onions yeah that's it that's the
Starting point is 00:44:14 it's fucking weird I'm like where's the milk and nothing's on the shelves like it's a desolate place there's a bunch of onions and Cocoa Krispies that's it
Starting point is 00:44:21 so it's stocked but it's all with shit you don't really need yes trivial shit oh oh they'll have like cocktail umbrellas like it's weird so like Cocoa Krispies. That's it. So it's stocked, but it's all with shit you don't really need. Yes, tribute shit. Oh, oh, they'll have like cocktail umbrellas. Like it's weird.
Starting point is 00:44:28 And there's like four people working there. There's mad people working there. So it's like the inefficiency of communism. So like, it's kind of like, yes.
Starting point is 00:44:36 So like when you were with your Airbnb, even if you were like downtown centrally located, like to walk to the store and get something is just, yo, it's a super inconvenient place.
Starting point is 00:44:44 I mean, I kind of like the fact that I wasn't able to get internet out there, but you got to go to a park. Yeah, because why care about your family and what they need, right? Why check in on your CEs? Yo, it was a perfect excuse, babe. There's no internet. I'm breaking up with... You. You.
Starting point is 00:44:59 Yo, so you got to go to a park, got to get an internet card, and people are on there on Facebook and shit. But that was nice to, like, break up from but you know there's like it's hard to maneuver to move around there as far as getting food like from a convenience store stuff it's weird you'll be walking down the street it's like a pizza there's like a shack and some guy in a out of an oven selling pizza it's right was it good though no it was awful whack right mad whack yo i mean that's interesting to be in a communist country that's not a common experience a lot of It's weird. Was it good, though? No, it was awful. Whack, right? Mad whack. Yo. I mean, that's interesting to be in a communist country.
Starting point is 00:45:29 That's not a common experience a lot of people have. No, that's why I think it was fascinating that you've been there. It's harder, man. There's not a lot of- I had a great time, but I would never take the family. We're going to Cuba for vacation. It doesn't seem like a- It's not convenient. It's not like anything I'm used to for a family.
Starting point is 00:45:41 Do the people- Are the people okay with it because they just don't know any different. You think you get that sense? Like that's just all they know. I wish that's the one thing about the trip that I wish I would've been able to mingle with the people more. I didn't, you know,
Starting point is 00:45:53 there was a few locals. And when I say locals, like the lady who ran the Airbnb, she knew English and she was just like, it's very nice that we're able to have our own business, but it's very, it's limited to what you can do. The, the, the, the general consensus of Cuban people out there, we're able to have our own business, but it's very, it's limited to what you can do. The general
Starting point is 00:46:07 consensus of Cuban people out there, they seem pretty aloof, but like they didn't seem like on some dirtbag shit. You know, they seem like they were just into their own thing. You know, they might be tired. They might want something new. You gotta understand Miami where all their friends and family are, they're fucking flashing, you know,
Starting point is 00:46:23 money and fancy cars. that's gotta be like enough of this bullshit well you know the dark side of communism I mean critics of communism know it is like there's the one utopian side where like you know for each his need for you know we give whatever you need
Starting point is 00:46:40 everyone's the same and blah blah blah but in reality the amount of repression you have to do to keep that going Everyone's the same But In reality The amount of repression you have to do to keep that going Always ends up putting people in body bags And fucking So Castro and Che You know
Starting point is 00:46:55 They killed a lot of people If you go to Miami and say Castro's name Or say It's like everyone in Miami Miami's all Cuban and they all hate Castro right well they because yeah but you know listen they say Castro maybe killed Che yeah but this is the thing I think it's like an interest on what what people value right like when you could talk about like the beginning of the revolution it was like we value human rights
Starting point is 00:47:20 you know people talk about uh the United States the land of the free, but meanwhile, we like jail the most people in the world. Like we have the biggest prison system. So it's like, what do you advise and how are you really looking at this shit, right? Because capitalism, a lot of people are kept on the bottom and that's why they end up living a certain way. And that's kind of dirt bag, you know, like, and that's a discussion
Starting point is 00:47:39 you could kind of like call it everywhere. There's flaws in both, yeah. But I was always fascinated by that. Like the ability to just be like, oh, this is a selfless act. I'm doing this to better my neighbor, my man. I was like, that's rich. And if you can apply that in different ways,
Starting point is 00:47:55 that's a good thing to acquire. If you don't think he's voting for a Castro-Cortez, you got another thing coming. Hugo Chavez! I tell you who he's voting for. He's voting for that blind guy who was Mayor David Patterson? Yeah, Mayor David Patterson.
Starting point is 00:48:10 I didn't say blind. He was blind, remember? Didn't he get accused of like cheating on his wife? You have Governor Patterson eyes! I look like I'm blind. I got tiny little beady eyes. He looks like he's blind.
Starting point is 00:48:26 Governor Patterson. Pull tiny little beady eyes. Yo, he looks like he's blind. Governor Patterson. Pull up Governor Patterson eyes. You got Governor Patterson eyes. I know. My eyes are so close. That was dirtbag. Two minutes into the podcast, I was like, I tried to drop some gems, and you straightened me out real quick.
Starting point is 00:48:37 Yo, you got stressed out with that knowledge. You tried to correct me, too. You were like, he was the first black mayor. You sighed like I moved away. You were like, I'm going to have, too. You were like, he was the first black mayor. Like, I moved away. You were like, I'm gonna have to kill this fucking mess. I'm tired. I was like, oh, God, I just did a week and I've shown that I got to clean up his mess. I was like, he's pulling the pockets in a direction where we just got to make correct him.
Starting point is 00:48:57 No, no. Yeah. I mean, ISIS just can't spell. We also put up Governor David, Governor David Patterson. Wait, leave it, leave it. He pulls up Governor Robert E. Patterson. And he spelt it p-a-t-t-i-s-o-n yeah yeah we have to put governor david patterson he pulls up governor robert patterson some guy from the 1800s don't spell it the way there it is yay you got patterson eyes don't spell it like the Arabic
Starting point is 00:49:25 spell it English David Patterson there he is folks Serge thanks for coming out oh wow that's dirt bag look at what he just look at go back go back to the other way
Starting point is 00:49:32 post that picture on the Patreon Giannis Pappas has Governor David Patterson eyes yo Serge thanks for coming on you got anything to promote you know what man
Starting point is 00:49:43 I don't. What I am excited about is that we're doing a lot of shows together. For real. When you see Chrissy D, you're going to see the older God opening up for him. And I'm excited about that. We got a bunch of shows. Bring your raps. Sergio Chacon on IG.
Starting point is 00:49:56 I'm on there. Yo, shout out your snake. Shout out your animal Instagram too, bro. If you go on my IG account, you're going to see some snakes. No, don't you have an own personal IG account for snakes? If you guys are interested, but I'm trying to blow up my regular shit. Now you have to come to my regular shit and then we'll get you. Yo,
Starting point is 00:50:11 yo, wow. Sergio screwed in. Yeah, he's screwed in now. Yeah, he's putting his whole. He's putting it behind a paywall. All right, because he was, you know, we're at at history. Hi, he's having me for the comedy com. Christy comedy on Instagram and at Yannis P Papas. Peace. ប្រូវាប់ប់ប្រូវាប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប Thank you. Bye.

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