Hollywood Handbook - Bess Kalb, Our Zoom Show Friend
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so it was me it was janet you said janet sorry the song is a little janet reno and tyler durden
and we were having it was me janet reno and tyler durden uh from Durden and we were having it was me Janet
Reno and Tyler Durden
from Fight Club and we were having
Tyler Durden from Fight Club. Okay.
Yes. Now
I'm starting to thank you for specifying
Tyler John Durden. You
are not your fucking genes
and let's talk about and
I know best is going to want to get it here
as
someone who I know Bess is going to want to get in here as someone who, I know you just wrote a book, Bess, and we will get into this in more detail.
But I know you were considering now writing the Dirt and and philosophy book like translating it into
like philosophy that people can understand
that's right Hayes I see myself
I want to write sort of the
Zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance
of like Fight Club imaginary
schizophrenic projection the Dow of
dirt and the Dow of dirt in
yeah the four hour dirt in
and now
Sean please by all means continue
I just knew the best would want to talk about
book and she loves Tyler Durden
anytime you want to stop down to
introduce best like
and have her chime in please do
because in my opinion she's
simply the best
oh my god can I write
I'm gonna write that down please write that down. Please write it down.
Not now.
Don't do it now.
Don't do it now.
No, obviously not now
because the mic will pick up
the scratching of the pen.
That's right.
You write really hard.
This is not meant to be offensive,
but you write extremely hard.
You grab the pen with both hands.
Yeah, I'm a scrawler.
You sort of put your whole body into it.
Well, I come from a whittling background,
and so I apply that to the page.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
I was very whittled once, too.
Sort of process.
Oh.
It's cute to think of.
So Tyler and Janet and I were having a smoothie contest,
and we said, let's go to the smoothies.
I got my smoothie ticket,
and we were making smoothies with, um,
anything you could find.
It was quarantine edition.
So it was just what's in the house.
Pasta.
Pasta.
Okay.
All dry pasta that goes in this movie.
Okay. That's a smoothie now.
Um,
uh,
a can of,
um,
pork.
Okay.
That's movie. Okay. What's else in here? Apple juice. Okay, that's smoothie. Okay, what's else in here?
Apple juice.
Okay, that's smoothie.
And we're having a contest.
Sorry, I just love the feeling
you have all these unlabeled cans,
you know, and your
pantry is just full of cans where the labels
have peeled off. And every single time
it's like a little game and the feeling when you
open it up and it is pork oh yes well i had obviously i haze and i both um were a little bit
older and when we were growing up we had these things called key parties that were so fun where
you would enter the house you would throw your keys in a bowl, and then someone would
take the keys on the way out and you would have sex with that person no matter who or what.
And so I missed that feeling. And the way for me to recapture it in a fun,
adult, responsible way was to take all the labels off all of my food
and whatever can I open or box i
just i have to eat it okay and oh and often have sex with it but you know like that's sort of a
thing of the past and in the you know it's been like a month since we've been able to
do that obviously it's been really difficult and transitioning out
of it there was i was so depressed i fell into a really dark depression for almost a whole day
and this can was something that my therapist um you may know him engineer sam uh sam keifer is one of the earwolf engineers but he's um he's my therapist
uh and he recommended this can treatment uh and it has been a whole new world for me
the sun came out again the sun finally came out again for me it had been cloudy because i missed the key party and the cans were the sun it's daytime
now it's bright and now i can't sleep daytime all the time like insomnia
the movie yeah this movie this movie um best can i say something to you please if you let me say
something just for one second
that it's welcome to hollywood handbook and the show is an insider's guide to kicking butt and
dropping names in the red carpet linebacker hallways of this industry we call showbiz
that is what the show is called and about do you know the show i do know this do i know the show i
i live i live by the show and that's how you know that somebody is sincere
is when they respond with repeating the question back to you.
They say the question again.
They take a beat.
Listen, the Holly Weird Ham book is what I call it.
Thank you.
I feel like real ham heads here will be saying this along with me.
But I love your guys' slogan.
Can I pause for just a second and say,
and this is totally genuine,
and I have to apologize to everyone,
I have not been recording at all.
Kevin, do you have the backup?
I have the backup, so if you want to start.
I do too.
So let's do this.
Now, let's pretend, okay, we're still recording. We let's do this. Now let's pretend. Okay.
We have,
we're still recording.
We've been recording everything.
Let's just say,
Sean,
talk about how you were like,
something was physically wrong with you and your voice was because you were
sick.
We cannot do this.
And I know Kevin,
Kevin is not normally the engineer and this will reflect very badly.
Or we could actually just blame it on Kevin.
So those are your choices.
I would prefer to say that I have now taken my medicine.
Okay, let's do it.
We started recording a little earlier than usual.
I am not allowed to take my medicine before 1024.
It's 1025 now. I am not allowed to take my medicine before 1024.
It's 1025 now.
I'm feeling better.
My throat feels better. Obviously, I probably sounded pretty insane to some of the listeners earlier through the whole smoothie story.
Which, by the way, I had smoothie in my throat still.
Pork and pasta smoothie.
Oh, wow. That's really medicine is smoothie removal medicine. smoothie story which by the way I had smoothie in my throat still pork and pasta smoothie
that's really medicine is
smoothie removal medicine
the medicine is really a sip
of water
was it canned water
the feeling when you open the can
because I've been looking for
old water
it was
and I got lucky with the can that I opened that it had water in it because whatever it was, otherwise I would have to drink it. That's right. And I have one can of poison in there.
I hope that it doesn't happen, but I've made a promise to myself and a man can break a promise to anyone except himself.
When he does, he disappears.
Is that true of a woman as well, Beth?
Can you shed light on that? No, it's almost exactly the same.
It's a woman can break a promise to anyone except herself.
Except herself.
Okay.
And when she breaks the promise to herself, instead of disappearing, that woman, she grows wings, guys.
She grows wings.
And that's how angels are made.
Wow.
I know.
I know.
How did this angels get made? That's's on this you can check out my podcast
how did this angel get made um which is on um kitty i saw kitty kitty cat i saw a kitty cat
okay i gotta tell you something i gotta tell you something for the for for for the people uh on on
zoom uh there are two kitty cats here there's one one. That's Engineer. I'm going to protect
his name. That's Engineer Cat.
That and so
responsible of you
to not... Yeah, no, he didn't ask to be in
show business. His mother is, but it's just like
I don't know. I just want to respect his privacy
and he shouldn't
be responsible for the choices I made.
Must protect.
Must protect. That's I made. Must protect. Must protect.
That's my tattoo.
Beautiful instinct.
Thank you.
And we're all showing Kitty Cat.
Kitty Cat.
There's a little cat king.
All their tails are tied together.
Netflix is the cat king.
Like Tiger King.
Topical is important. Can you see mine outside the other window? Netflix is the cat king. Like Tiger King.
Topical is important.
Can you see mine outside the other window?
Give me one second.
See him?
Yes.
Very gorgeous.
Hello.
Hey.
Kitty cat.
Kitty cat.
But that's not what we're gonna talk about although you bringing up cat
king on netflix does make me think of tiger king which i have to say i cannot wait for the
absolutely horrible movie they will make out of that documentary series i hope they make a really
serious movie about it just a truly terrible movie it will be equivalent to me what the
closest thing i can think of
is when they tried to make a Jerry Springer movie.
Who was Jerry Springer?
Jerry.
Oh, he was himself
playing himself. And Ringmaster. He played himself.
Ringmaster. I remember that now.
And it was like, you can't
make this a movie.
No. Although I can see Matthew
McConaughey getting lost in that role just getting
lost in it i can see people getting excited for the trailer and then no one talking about what
the actual film is yeah kevin how's the sound you think you're doing a good job it sounds so
good over here kevin's the man only engineer today and he he's been really overcompensating.
Before the show, he was like,
hey, can you make sure that your sound is on exactly 44 kilohertz?
Because if it's 48, it has to be 48,
because if it's 44, it really hurts my ears.
The difference, I'm very sensitive,
and it actually is making me sick. This is not my voice at all kevin had me pitch it down i'm i'm i'm up he i'm i'm i can't do it because kevin will
he'll melt down he's so nasty he sends me like sometimes when i send him the file
he'll say listening now and then he'll send back a video of himself just clutching his ears curled
up on the floor rolling around writhing in agony and then he'll be like just checking was this on
44 kevin is this when is this coming out this tuesday tuesday yeah do you want to brag a little
bit about your triumphant month hey here's the thing this is what happened best
we had Kevin likes
has this little
you know how certain animals like
present yes
Kevin has this like
hormonal display he likes to
do every year where he
books very famous people
onto the show for a month
and then he essentially goes dormant into hibernation for the other 11 months of the year.
It takes so much out of him that he's just in pure recovery mode.
Yes.
And that's why I'm here.
Beth Klarb.
And then Kevin, he laps up. he gets all these little compliments online because
like they say that he got like tony hawk as a guest and stuff and everyone's like
kevin don't miss kevin is on one nice that are all our young fans say uh he never reveals the
fact that there is a separate talent booker for the show that never
comes up it's always it's always
like Kevin's parade
all the work
yeah but yeah but you know
respond you respond to some comments online but
you'd never respond to the compliments
there for you alone
you know
I am doing work like CEOs at companies like they're working too
it's just like other employees are also working talk about that sure um not you best talk about
what you think thank you so much um um no i do want to hear more about that kevin okay go ahead okay so like companies have these
big bosses right and they're doing work and then sometimes other people at the company they're also
working but if like you have an issue with your Amazon package, you'll probably like Jeff Bezos and then talk to him.
But other people are working there too.
So I guess in this scenario, I'm kind of like the boss,
but other people are doing the work as well.
Your hair looks like a hat today.
It looks more like a hat than usual shower status shower status
last night nice let me see the back of the head oh no yeah all fucked up oh no are you a back
sleeper kevin i'm a belly sleeper. He sleeps face down face directly at the pillow.
He has a hole in his
mattress for his head to go into.
You sleep
on a massage table. Yeah.
In the hallway. I sleep on the hallway
massage table.
Bess?
Mm-hmm.
I mean, a book?
This is like... I can't even believe it. I can't even believe it i can't even believe it
this came out of me now more than ever and there it is here it is i'm going to show you my book
here it is wow got a cinnamon roll on the cover it's actually you can it's a scratch and sniff
book i'm smelling it now it smells like heaven heaven. Cinnamon. It is. It's, which is product placement.
The publisher is.
Heaven for heaven.
For heaven.
For heaven.
It's in the heaven is for real-iverse.
Uh-huh.
And so what you'll see when you read this is a 100% fact base.
It kind of is, actually.
It's told from beyond the grave.
Oh, cool.
But I would market this book.
I'm going to go rogue here.
There are people at the publishing house
who don't want me to say
that this book is the unofficial sequel
to Heaven is for Real.
It's proof about heaven.
It's proof there's heaven.
It's proof there's heaven.
This book also is...
Is it true that it immunizes you against coronavirus?
The COVID-19, yes.
Thank you so much.
I know your publisher didn't want you to reveal that.
No, they don't.
It's just purchasing it, right?
It means that you can't catch anything?
Just even online. just purchasing it online.
It means you'll live forever and never die of anything.
So that is what's so interesting is that the book provides certain proof of heaven.
And yet at the same time, guarantees that you will never see it.
I know.
So it's this real catch 22.
It's sort of a God tease.
So it's this real catch 22.
It's this,
it's,
it's sort of a God tease.
Um,
you know,
you,
you,
you see that eternal paradise is,
and again,
this a hundred percent fact base, um,
based on my visions.
Um,
uh,
it is real,
but just the,
it's like a Greek myth.
It's like you buy it and then you can't go there.
So I'd say buy it at your own risk,
uh,
but not at your own peril.
Your cat is very busy.
My cat is my engineer.
He's doing a really good job.
He actually thinks that he has landed.
It's too early to say this,
but he thinks that he's landed Tony Hawk as.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
Sloppies.
He did it or the booker did it.
This is our booker.
Other cat.
Oh, the other cat.
Other cat.
Other cat.
One cat's the engineer.
One cat's the booker.
We have fun.
Oh, my God.
That's so funny.
The two cats have different jobs.
They have jobs.
Like, people.
They're in a union.
Cats are, like, working their jobs. I know. I know. Think about in a union. Cats are like working their jobs.
I know.
I know.
Think about it, guys.
Think about it.
You guys.
Think about it.
They're sitting on a train.
I'm looking at my cats
and thinking about jobs.
Uh-uh.
Uh-uh.
Uh-uh.
They sit on the commuter rail
and they sit down like people.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
All my cats are sitting
on a steel beam
eating out of lunch pails
together.
Guys, one All my cats are sitting on a steel beam, eating out of lunch pills together. Guys,
one of my cats is a scab.
Oh no.
Oh my God.
Your cat crossed the picket line.
My cat's a rat.
And the other cat hissed at him.
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
This is a show.
I hate to say this,
but is this a show?
Well,
we should talk about shows.
We have a lot of show.
We have to do a lot of show there um so this is so amazing it's like so it's just such a great
segue to cats do these zoomies and we love talking about this right they zoom around and we are of
course doing zoomies as well and we are doing a zoo right now and this is a new normal. Okay. This
is the way we live
now. Yes. I like it when
people say the before times.
I think that's clever. I think that's cool.
I think that's fresh.
And this
is of course this time
in history will
primarily be understood as
an endless source of comedy.
Every
product of what is going
on right now is
for us to
go and watch and think about later
and be so happy and laugh.
I'm hearing reports from
ICUs that they're calling it the ha-ha virus.
Yes. I'm getting
those reports right now as well
i'm getting that's why that's that's my headphone oh your headphone is not your headphone is coming
through it's a police scanner yes i'm getting it and i'm getting the live feed and it's almost
hard to make out the words because of the deep belly laughs that are interrupting in between
and it's them just remembering some funny things
about the sickness
that has taken over the world.
And it's a space for constant innovation.
And it's sort of,
not only has it given us a ton of material,
it's given us a new way to look at communication
and workplaces right yeah relationships
virtual horniness sex fucking horniness horny fucking sex busting off finishing
starting it all over again and all of that happens now online yeah on this
happens now online.
Yeah.
On this doing a Zoom.
On a Zoom.
And so we're imagining this.
We're imagining all of our... You watch the TV now
and the characters do not understand
what they are supposed to be doing now
in this new normal
and the way we live now.
So we say,
we take these characters,
we make sure they are old and gross looking now,
but we put them in these new,
in a Zoom, all the shows now are doing a Zoom.
Zoom shows.
Do all the old shows, now they're doing a Zoom.
Every show you've ever seen,
people had been rebooting and trying to come up with new ways
to do some of these old shows because we're out of ideas.
And the real new way to do it is just Zoom it.
Just Zoom it already.
Zoom curb me.
Give me Zoom of cards.
Do you see what I'm saying?
Hemlock Zoom Grove.
Lilla Zoomer.
You know, give me these shows, these iconic shows that we all regard as absolute classics.
And hit me with some Orange is the New Zoom already.
and hit me with some oranges the new zoom already because that's the type of shit that gets me cranked up and freaks my damn bean kyle x y zoom edition
we bought a zoom and that was a movie.
That's a movie.
But I think we could do a whole show out of it.
I like Game of Zooms.
And what's that from?
Game of Zooms from HB Zooms,
Zoom of Thrones.
And I think, yeah, I think that'd be good.
Game of Zooms is based on Zoom of Thrones.
Game of Zooms is Spike TV's
hosted by
Game of Zooms is on Spike TV it's hosted by Nick Cannon
oh wow
it's pretty good it's actually pretty good
okay so I thought
so it's not Game of Zooms you're talking about Ellen DeGeneres
DeGeneres is Zoom of Zooms
Zoom of Zooms
yes that's right Generous is Zoom of Zooms. Zoom of Zooms. Zoom of Zooms. Yes.
That's right.
Yeah, that's where my mind goes.
Yeah.
It swept the golden Zooms.
It did.
Okay, so obviously we're already finding
that this is essentially limitless
in terms of the sandbox
that we're able to play in here.
And so basically the assignment from the studio is to Kevin,
you just give us what show we're supposed to be doing and we Zoomify it.
We break the cold open for every Zoom show. And then we kind of put it in the hands of some hack scribe to kind of carry it off and deliver to the public.
But we're just going to kind of kick it off, give people a bit of a running start.
It's like when I would push you into the wave, Kevin, when I brought you up for surfing instruction.
Yeah.
The first note I have here is for the outsider
okay well that's not really a show so much as a limited series it was like an event
um do you want me to do you want to know what like what a show is i mean i'll tell you right now
it's it's now going to be called the insider because he's
not allowed outside anymore yeah okay the the next one i have here is for uh survivor
wow yeah that one is of course called insider as well uh-huh all of these are, yeah, are called Insider, colon.
Most of the shows are called Insider.
Insider Survivor Edition, Insider Outsider Edition.
That's right.
Outlander Insider.
Inside Edition, Inside Edition.
That's right.
Okay, so Survivor, do we do this?
We could, yeah.
Survivor is a classic scripted show.
Is Survivor Guild?
Oh, yeah.
The shows have to be Guild.
Because if this isn't Guild,
there's so much tension right now
with unions and the...
I don't want to be a scab
and start writing for non-scripted.
It is interesting that Kevin got
too wrong. Yeah.
Does Curb Your Enthusiasm
count as scripted? I always think they're just
making it up on the spot.
Well, and that's been a bit of a battle
with the Guild as well, but
I do think that there's
enough of a story-breaking process and enough
of a universal language there that we could probably do a curb spec zoom edition.
The insider curb edition zoom style.
Did you guys I mean, Hayes, you always have such a great take on Larry's world.
Yeah.
I mean, I've been actually doing research on this in the form of uh an email
that my dad sent me this morning uh let me pull this up right now okay it is copy and pasted from
a new york times article uh and it reads cheryl hines who plays his ex-wife on curb observed.
I'll bet Larry's in heaven.
He's been trying to social distance for years.
And it's an article basically about how like Larry David loves being inside
because of coronavirus.
So,
so that is a great.
So at first he loves it.
Right.
But if I know Larry, yeahry yeah he's gonna get in the
hot water and what i'm thinking is this is just a jumping off point might be the pitch that gets us
to the pitch doesn't have to be the pitch necessarily yeah but my initial pitch is
larry has bad zoom etiquette he keeps leaving meetings before they're ended by the host
so he's exiting the zoom and it starts to go around.
People are going like, you know, Larry.
I heard your some term, you know.
That's right.
An Osta, a Zoomsta.
Okay.
That's very obvious, of course,
what you're saying.
That's a bad example of it.
Again, maybe that's just like,
that's the kernel of it.
That's the kernel, yes.
That's the kernel of it.
But I think Zoomsta,
you want something that,
if I know Curb,
and I think i do pretty well
i've seen um almost three episodes i've seen every episode i'm jewish but um it really has
to roll off the tongue who did you did you remember when i was on it who did you play
i played um i was an usher at a funeral uh and he bribed me to hold his seat.
And someone sits in his seat, and he wants his bribe back.
And I am like, you know, not exactly trying to give this guy his bribe back.
It's an iconic moment.
Yeah.
The character.
That's the pants tent of...
Yeah, that's...
The character in the show
doesn't necessarily have a name,
but Sean, I know you,
as part of your preparation,
did give your character a name
and like a little bit of a...
Some backstory?
Yeah, a little bit of a story.
Sebastian.
Where... Sorry if this is a rude question but where is sebastian
from sebastian is from the bahamas uh his name was sebastian saint bonaventure and he was born
on the islands and that was a little bit of where the confusion between he and Larry even came in was he was used to a more relaxed island way of life.
Now, of course, Manhattan's an island, as people will remind you, but the culture is a little different there.
And Larry, I think, is used to a faster pace and a little more organization.
So that, yeah, that was sebastian's um disconnect and he had he had a really interesting
life sebastian saint bonaventure uh i don't want to necessarily distract us from doing the zoom
versions of the show but he was um he was born on a in a during a trapeze show he shot out of the woman doing a flip on a trapeze and landed on the like safety
net below oh he was not caught by oh okay okay so that was a mistake yeah yeah and then he was
raised by uh some of the clowns and animals that were uh down there because he's so far away from his mom
who's up. She's way
up. On the trapeze. She never got down.
Yeah.
She would shoot like
milk down at him.
Did she shoot siblings
down? Did he ever get a friend to
a brother?
No. Just one brother? No.
Just one baby. No.
His brothers and friends were the
elephants and rhinos
and clowns
and freaks. You don't see a lot of rhinos.
You would call them freaks, but they were actually really
beautiful, wonderful people.
And so that was
why he didn't actually carry a lot of judgment about people
because of that background.
Rhinos are actually like,
uh,
like they make amazing circus animals.
They are smarter than people.
Uh,
they have memories that last forever.
Uh,
and,
uh,
they're so funny.
They're like very dry.
It's why I'll never eat a rhino
or a pig.
I've stopped.
Yeah, I won't.
I do like a Mondays thing. Mondays I don't.
Right.
I will not eat any rhino.
It's a hornless Monday.
Yeah.
So, Suszy's pissed obviously
because larry is leaving the meetings too early we do still have to figure out exactly what the
term is i do feel like i feel like we have it and we can move on from that i don't know
there was some consensus zoomsta zoomstilla zoomsta i don't know i feel like everybody
was kind of saying that's such a good idea. That's right.
I forgot. I remember we all laughed at
Zoomstila Zoomsta. Like somebody was like
that's it.
There was a lot of laughing. I'm paraphrasing
I think. I don't remember exactly.
I forgot about that.
That was good. So Susie's like
Larry, you're leaving?
You just leave the meeting?
Did you leave my fucking meeting before I entered as the host? Larry David, you're leaving. Like, you just leave the meeting. She goes, you just leave my fucking meeting before I enter it as the Larry David.
You sick fuck.
You zoom out of here.
That's good.
He's like, the meeting's over.
You can't zoom in and quit it.
I'm still I'm still trying to beat it.
I'm still trying to beat Zoom.
Still a Zoom student, though.
I know you can't drop it.
I was done with the meeting.
I was done with the meeting. I don't. Yeah, I don't. You know, I don't need to wait for you to hang up the phone for trying to beat zoom still a zoom statement though i know you can't have it it's putting a hat on the hat i was done with the meeting i don't yeah i don't i you know
i don't need to wait for you to hang up the phone for me to get a phone call she's like it's not a
phone call larry it's a zoom yeah and so that like he's in big trouble with everybody and then uh maybe people start pretending they can't hear him okay well he can be muted by the
host suzy can actually choose to mute him for the rest of the group yeah but you can but you can see
that right but i and so i think what's here's what suzy would do if i could just crawl inside suzy's mind for a second and you have to as a writer suzy would not give him the satisfaction of
knowing that this was being done to him suzy's just on the other end of the zoom being like i
can't larry we can't we can't hear you larry he's like what are you about my signal my internet is
perfect the guy was just here today sorry la
can't hear you
and then him saying
the guy was here today
they're like
the guy shouldn't have been there
you had a guy
you had a guy
in your house
the guy
he has a guy
Jeff
you had a guy Larry
Larry
of course you did
you would have a guy
of course you had a guy
yeah
Larry I don't know what to tell you you can't have a you You would have a guy. Of course you had a guy. Larry, I don't know what to tell you.
You can't have a guy in your house.
It's quarantine.
Yeah.
Now he goes out to another house.
I would say Jeff probably would fake symptoms of coronavirus
to self-isolate away from Susie.
From Susie.
If I'm just getting into there
my lungs
yeah so that he can hold a relationship
with a webcam girl that's right
and like a hotel room
that's right he's coughing
yeah I would say
the episode could be called cam girl
yeah and then of course he
like you know like two weeks
passed and so like obviously he's supposed to be over it by now and then he does get it for real
oh no he meets up with this cam girl in real life yeah he meets up with her he gets coronavirus from
her she has it that he goes home to suzy good yeah really good and then suzy loses her suzy loses
her voice yeah and then larry and then the final scene is larry getting to pretend that he can't
hear yeah i can't hear you yes yes yes it's a little win for him and also so here's what else
happens suzy loses her voice, which makes Jeff fall
in love with her all over again.
It's a little, it's a classic little
mermaid is what they call that in writers rooms.
Yes, but now
he's like he's he can't like he's betrayed
her. He can't have her. They
get divorced in quarantine.
Yes.
It's good.
We do the tape down the middle of the room.
Yeah, like the breakup.
Susie's got all the masks on her side of the house.
Yeah.
He's not allowed over there.
It's like a real O'Henry gift of the...
She has the masks, but he has the cough.
That she wants to get to.
She wants to get to.
Yeah.
Desperately. I sold my cough to get to. She wants to get to. Yeah. Desperately.
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Kevin, what's another one?
What about Brooklyn Nine-Nine?
Almost too crazy to even imagine that is almost too crazy to even imagine what are those guys just gonna solve like a grizzly uh a grizzly rape burner
they're not doesn't seem like they're really doing their jobs right we have these things
are these crimes are happening and we're never seeing them deal with it at all and they're just
a bunch of goof around guys yeah i hate to use that term that it's always like a bunch of pickles
spilled on the sidewalk yeah it's somebody's like stealing shipments of beanie babies illegally from the warehouse.
Right.
And, you know, and one of the cops is like, has a microwave at their desk they're not supposed to or something.
And that's the problem.
People are being fucking rape murdered.
People are being grisly rape murdered left and right.
It's New York, okay?
It's Brooklyn for that matter. and right it's new york okay it's brooklyn it's brooklyn it's the 99th precinct of the most
dangerous borough in in the world in the world so this this version of the show obviously would
be called brooklyn in all caps dash one nine i have a little bit of a joke like a little bit of
a joke that the most dangerous borough in the world is actually shrek's friend donkey because he'll make you bust up so hard milk shoots out your nose that's about as dangerous as
it gets especially when you're on your laptop doing a zoom that's right oh don't get behind
him don't get behind him he'll buck okay shrek. He'll buck. Okay. Shrek and Donkey doing Zoom.
Oh, wait.
Shrek as a Zoom.
The insider Shrek edition.
Shrek 4.
Shrek 4.
Oh, my God.
So funny.
Shrek's head is too big.
Donkey's telling Shrek that he has to basically back up to the other side of the room.
Shrek 4 and team.
Shrek 4 and T Shrek 4 and T
that's so funny
Fiona
keeps walking in on the zoom
Fiona virus
the Fiona virus
that's what he calls her
that's what he calls her
fuck dude
we can't do movies because we don't we haven't had that We can't do movies because we haven't had that assignment yet.
No, no, no.
That's coming, but we haven't had that assignment yet.
Yeah.
So, sorry, Hayes.
I interrupted with my donkey joke.
You were saying it's Brooklyn 1...
It's Brooklyn in all caps, dash one nine,
is what this version of the show is called.
And Peralta's there.
Peralta is basically told, I think, in the first episode
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under these circumstances,
just to set up for the viewer that the person they knew no longer exists
basically and he responds
basically being like I totally
agree
that I can't like I cannot
justify I don't remember
why I was acting like that but like
suffice it to say
that's over now
this is his new normal
this is his new normal no more pranks
we keep saying the new normal should we do we want to do the new normal as well
because that show had a lot of quick pops as i recall and little cutaways yeah i'm not sure how to handle that on Zoom.
Right.
But maybe gallery mode?
Gallery mode.
Gallery mode?
It quick pops.
It cuts away to gallery mode.
Rannells and Bartha.
I've not seen the new normal,
but boy, am I going to Google it. it yeah we're all it was it was a dollar it was paired with go on it was a rock block with go on
uh and it was ryan murphy created it no yes his first sitcom and it was rannells and bartha
wealthy gay couple brian and david living in los angeles
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that was happening at that point that was now the new normal almost every house you walk by
if you actually peered in through the window
was a wealthy gay couple a surrogate mother and a nine-year-old
child named named after a 90s country pop singer.
So you had your Faiths,
you had your Shania's.
Yes.
You had your Leanne's.
Leanne's.
There must be probably four more, right?
We got three.
We got Faith, we got Shania, Leanne.
We got three.
Surely there's...
Cheryl.
Cheryl.
Cheryl Cheryl yeah
Gwen
she's my country
oh my
she could be a little bit country
okay what's another show Kevin
come on
Dave
Dave
Dave sorry the show
sorry the show Dave yeah
the little
show
going hard on Jeff Schaefer
properties
yeah what's that
about Kevin
you want to do the league next Kev
the league would be good too
could you imagine you want to do bru league next, Kev? The league would be good, too.
Could you imagine? You want to do Bruise Brothers next, Kev?
I would never.
Okay, so Dave, Dave, Dave, he's doing rapping.
He's rapping his ass off.
He's rapping online.
He's going viral rapping.
He believes in himself. He's talking about his dick. He's online. He is his dick. He's coming out of his own zipper. He'll grow on you. All I know about Dave is the bus ad that I would see in Before the New Normal Times.
And it was a, which is what I call them.
And it was a man coming out of his own zipper, out of his own underwear, underpants.
I believe that's what I said.
Yeah.
But no, just to clarify.
Contextualize.
Just to say exactly what you said. Yeah. you said word for word yes that's what it was and this is happening to me
a bit lately so he is something with my internet yeah you've got to get to gallery mode is what I keep saying. Yeah. I'm about to.
Make the leap.
I'm going gallery mode.
I just went straight gallery on my ass.
So he is his own ding dong.
He's climbing out of his underwear.
It's about a man who lives inside his own underwear.
And he can't. He's not allowed to leave his underwear underwear. It's about a man who lives inside his own underwear.
And he can't.
He's not allowed to leave his underwear anymore.
That's right.
That's right. The CDC came and sewed up the little flat in the underpants, in the boxer shorts.
And so now he is stuck in there.
And he does have Zoom, of course.
And he wants to do a big rap show.
He wants to do his underwear.
One of these online, one of these big.
So I love this now where like people doing comedy shows and rap shows online.
To me, this is sustainable ah it's better it's so much better
because it comes right to my home yes i think the energy you get from somebody talking directly into
their screen in a room alone is palpable it's like it's. It's a shame front-facing camera comedy
had taken off prior to this.
Because we would be in a renaissance
rather than witnessing the death throes
of a movement that is actually appropriate
only for the time we currently live in the um new normal
after the before times i mean that reminds me of like the really the only way i think we're
gonna get out of this recession is a cameo tax yeah like basically i think we're gonna have to do like a 75 tax on cameo receipts because of the
huge surplus in this market right this is like the only untapped source of extreme wealth that
that we have right now patreon too i think unfortunately yeah uh i'm aware that uh i'm gonna be taking the big we all have to do our part
yeah look it's it's just one of those things where it's supply and demand yeah it's the right thing
it's definitely the right thing to sort of take take money out of the pockets of anyone providing any kind of entertainment during these times.
Yes.
In $30 to $100 increments.
People who are paid in $30 to $100 increments in all cash should be the people hit the hardest by this moment. by the government
by the feds
by the feds
who's gotta step up
by this congress
and start
putting their money
where their mouth is
and where their mouth is
is gobbling up
all the money
from these
greedy
cameo
pigs
who get paid sometimes $15,
sometimes, like you said, like $80.
Unthinkable.
To be making $80 when there are people who,
there are people who are not doing front-facing content.
It's just, it's greedy.
It's, those are,
you're being a vulture.
Yeah. A culture vulture.
Yes, you're being vulture. You're being the New York
New York Magazine. New York Magazine.
You're being a vertical.
Yeah, you're being a Vox Media property.
You're reporting on the staffs
of writing rooms. You are.
Is what you're doing. Yeah. You're writing an
article saying who works for a late night show. That are. Is what you're doing. Yeah. You're writing an article saying who works for
a late night show.
That's an article to you.
Not this gal anymore.
But enough about that.
Okay, best.
Nobody wants to talk about that.
Honestly, that's guild stuff
and I shouldn't bring
the guild into this.
Nobody wants to talk about that.
That's guild.
A lot of people are writing in. A lot of people are writing in into this. Nobody wants to talk about that. That's guild. A lot of people are writing in
a lot of people are writing in right now
who just want to talk about that.
Who just want to write about the vulture beat.
Yeah, we're getting those inquiries
as well. That's coming through my
headphones right now too. I'm getting that
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so we,
I think we cracked Dave.
Like Dave is a very bad example.
I think Kevin,
think about what would be a good one to do because Dave,
honestly,
he's going viral over an Instagram video is the,
is essentially the big event of the pilot.
And that doesn't really change for us.
What would be good is to take a show where everyone, including us,
knows all the characters and what happens in the show.
Remember how much fun we had with Curb, which was a good example?
And that's like a classic show.
The pantheon of classic shows. we had with curb which was like a good example that that's like a classic show yeah like the
pantheon of classic shows like you started in a great place with curb your enthusiasm which has
like tropes that like everyone acknowledges then you went to brooklyn 99 which like okay but it
has to be on the air farther away for sure but it has to be on the air what the fuck are you talking
about why no i thought you said like it has to be a current show it can't be
a limited series a limited series when i said the outsider was limited series i mean that is not a
running television show that will have multiple seasons that is it's an eight episode like uh
you know not it's a novel that they made into a mini series.
A mini series and a TV show are two different things.
But they could do a second season about COVID.
Well,
they did that with Big Little Lies.
But you do it then,
Kevin.
You do it and see how well that goes.
Okay.
Okay.
That's such a great idea.
But it's rare for them to do that with a book.
It's rare for,
it's rare for them to take
a single book make
like an eight episode series out of it
and then do
a whole other season with like a new
premise with the same name
it's I mean I know you
are doing this called big little lies
yeah
and I know you are doing
it and I know you are doing this with your book but it is it's unusual i think it's fair
to say that it is unusual it's out of the ordinary my book already has a lot of zoom
in it so oh wow zooming from heaven and i'll tell you it is that's the subtitle it's zooming
zooming from heaven yeah it's crazy you said that. I'll tell you how the outsider does it. They get Meryl Streep in there.
Nice.
I mean, that's how you do it.
Please, by all means, go and like, go email Meryl Streep.
It's not try him out that he wore a bow.
Okay.
Bess, what's your book called?
My book is called Nobody Will Tell You This But Me.
Is that true?
It's Ain't It The Truth, guys. Is that true, though you this but me is that true it's ain't it the truth guys is that true though for real true no um no i don't want to give it away i don't want to give it away
i don't want to give it away the whole the last line of the book is the whole thing just kidding
it's just kidding the last line just kidding just kidding just kidding around like in the um the
kristen wick kristen wick yeah oh like yeah yeah so she's gonna she's gonna sue is what i'm realizing Just kidding. Just kidding around. Like in the Kristen Wiig character. Kristen Wiig, yeah.
Oh, like, yeah, yeah.
So she's going to sue is what I'm realizing right now. I'm a book.
Just kidding.
It's parallel thought, you know?
I'm a character.
No, I'm not.
Just kidding.
Just kidding.
Just kidding.
I'm not a book.
Just kidding.
I wrote it.
Just kidding.
Best wrote it.
Would it be legal to say that your book, to write a book and to say it was written by David S. Pumpkins
is that allowed
hope so
yeah I mean
I think we're all in really big trouble
I hope so because I gotta call my
lawyer
if it's not
my book Attention Teachers and Students
has been getting a lot of good press,
but I am nervous now, legally,
that I might be in a sticky situation.
I think, yeah, you have, if you, like,
when you publish Attention Teachers and Students,
I think it's like a coin flip
whether or not you would ever get in trouble.
It's weird because, like, it's hard to bring me to court when there no one's allowed to be in the same room anymore.
Yes.
So that was really the time to commit intellectual property crime.
I think so.
Just a petty, weird paperwork requiring crime.
Yeah.
How can they even serve you?
They couldn't
with six feet away yeah yeah oh sorry man i'd love to i'd love to accept that envelope but how about the good place everyone see that kevin what like i mean like it's it's fine, but are you five years old?
There's a whole pantheon of shows.
We said classic shows.
And you went in the tank for about 15 minutes and came back with The Good Place.
It's not totally out of the realm of stuff that we could do,
but there's so many classic shows
Avenue 5
these are
bad examples I would say like
I'll give you what I think
yeah
that is good
the new zoom is pretty good
the new zoom
new zoom
Avazoom 5
see
I guess it's fun to do the titles
but
okay
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I mean we don't have time
ah
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The book is
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Canadian.
Canadian.
Oh, it doesn't have it.
Oh, I always get...
My book doesn't have... There's no
price on the book.
Why does it have those pages that are
very jagged?
The book is
tea-stained.
I did the little burns
on the sides
and tea-stained it to make it look historical.
Tea stained.
I'm in love with a steeper.
I little dickied this book.
She little dickied the damn thing.
She teabagged her own book.
You know, it's Hollywood, so that's what you gotta do
it's Hollywood it's Holly weird
it's Holly weird I made a joke that
people are gonna be mad that it was ignored I'm just
saying what was it
it was
I said tea stain I'm
in love with a steeper
okay okay
but it's too late and people will be
upset oh you mean teaaying the guy who's auto
zoomed all the time yes for this freaking auto zoom sick joke what happened to good
doing music and it's real what happened to being a good singer like me makes me sick
but actually
T-Pain won the
Masked Singer
so
I think
I think the voice
speaks for itself
oh shit
and he did a
Tiny Desk concert
and that is
he did
the realm of
legitimate
music
and everyone's like
T-Pain is actually
really singing for real
and
and everyone else has to
like has to suck on it suck on these yeah yeah kevin is this enough for you
are you finally satisfied when is enough enough is enough we're good okay ninja turtles and and best we just do one um springer style like final thoughts
segment from you and then or when the meal of the week moment of zen yeah a moment of zen or
meal of the week oh boy um you, what is there to say?
Just take care of each other, you know?
Oh, my God.
Just think about it.
You honor me.
You honor me, Beth.
I just want to honor you guys with my truth, okay?
Okay, it's as simple as that.
Thank you for saying the truth.
Meal of the week.
We're all just eating our canned pork over here.
You know,
just try to avoid the can of poison.
Don't eat the poison.
To everyone out there listening, don't eat your poison.
Don't eat that.
Don't eat your poison.
Don't eat that.
Unless you open it and made a promise to yourself
to eat whatever's in the can,
in which case you can't break a promise to yourself.
Unless you're a woman.
If you are a man.
And then you'll be an angel.
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