Hollywood Handbook - Brian Huskey, Our Teen Pope Friend

Episode Date: August 6, 2024

The Boys and BRIAN HUSKEY work on the next film in the Teen Pope franchise. Get a Hat Pack Hat here!Watch the video of today’s episode at Patreon.com/HollywoodHandbook Like the show? Rate Hollywood Handbook 5-Stars on Apple PodcastsAdvertise on Hollywood Handbook via Gumball.fm See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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And I agree actually, because their water is drinkable. It has a 7.7 pH, perfectly balanced. Yes. And you know, I'm not. Ours has a 700.700 pH. Yeah, so we were a bit higher. And then, you know, unlike the other two premium bottled water brands,

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Yeah. But like, it's not, it doesn't have that kind of edge, but it's not G either. That's, yeah. It's a little bit, it's kids can have it, but you should be around them when they do. Yes. Fiji water is bottled at the source and untouched by man until you unscrew the cap. Their bottles are made from a hundred percent recycled plastic and they continue to lead the top preview bottle water competition on launching a hundred percent recycled plastic bottles earth's

finest water and Fiji water and I have a tagline for them that you probably haven't heard and that they haven't heard and it is a feed me feiji thanks feiji. Well things are moving pretty fast and crazy cuz it's they were moving slow before. It's like slow slow slow slow slow. Whoa that's fast and And can I, thank you. And I'm sorry that things are a little haphazard here, Brian. We put this together pretty quickly because like I was saying, that like the dominoes are really falling

for something big, big, big for this show. And prior to that, nothing was happening. Nothing for years. Law of physics, you build up that pressure. Yeah. That energy, the earthquake is coming. The explosion and like that. And that's what this is.

This is an earthquake. It's going to shake the foundation. Oh, the platelets are shifting. Of our entire industry. Like it really is going to be something of a sea change. Yeah, it's a reboot, it's a sea change, it's a paradigm shift. There's a lot of great phrases

that are applicable to those. Yes. We are sitting on something that we have taken out here and there over the last couple years, like just to kind of like test the water on it. Take the town's temp. Yeah.

We were getting some temp readings and what the early indications were, it was saying, the town was saying, wait, the readings that we were getting on it, I was actually not sure if there was actually that level of interest or that an EMP had gone off somewhere. I had actually been hearing that an electromagnetic pulse had gone off and caused a power outage

across the entire city. And that like was consistent with the readings that we were getting. And I actually am inclined to believe now that that is, that is what happened. The potentially oceans 11's basher had sent this set off an EMP in the town. Just as when we were taking it out, taking the temperature on it. I have to say, I think one of the smartest. just as when we were taking it out, taking the temperature on it. I have to say, I think one of the smartest

in the use of outside technology within our industry, which is a creative, expressive, mind-based thing. It is, it is. But to bring in these. It's the theater of the mind. Yeah, but to bring in this outside technology and to really, to give us a different perspective. I mean, it's like finding a poltergeist.

People will laugh at these guys who have these like pulsometers and stuff. Not me. No, no, no, no, not me either. I'm not laughing because the machine that they're using is telling them something. There is an energy there. Which we're all at the end of the day,

we're just made of fucking energy. Oh, we're all stardust. And we're all connected. We are all one fungi. How can I hate you? I am you. I hate you. You are the tree that is connected to the root

that connects me to that tree, to this tree. And like all trees, some of them are nice and growing in nice ways and nice to look at. Some of them are ugly. And some have big balls, like big disease coming out of it. Some look like alcoholics noses. Yeah, for sure. Some of them need to be cut down and burned.

Because the saw will also be part of them. You can't cut the tree down. The tree is the saw. My hand is the tree. And I heard a kid the other day, I heard a kid on the street, I get so fucking mad at some of these kids. And I'm walking, well, this one,

he went through a change this day because I made sure of it. I heard him turn to his buddy and he says, Garfield sucks. Oh, come on. I said, oh yeah, buddy? Yeah. Well, you know what I just heard you say?

I suck. And he goes, you? And I go, no, I'm being you when I say it. You said, I, it means that you suck. Cause guess what pal, you're Garfield. Yeah. Yeah. And that, and to take that in, to honor that idea

and give it space. Yeah. How far down the block were you having to take that in to honor that idea and give it space. Yeah. Yeah, how far down the block were you having to yell that to make your point? A lot of times I'll engage people in that way and they're way out of my vocal range. These kids are fast. They're fast, especially if you raise your voice

and get real close to their face. They tend to go away. These fucking scooters they have, should they be allowed to have these things? No, of course not. I mean, they're rentals for one. Dangerous. I mean, you literally say razor on this island.

Get a scooter too, just to keep up with them. You'd be surprised how much of the time we are actually on a slight grade and we don't realize it. No. So I find myself- Wait, metaphorically or in real? Cause we've been talking a lot of metaphors. And I thought it was just metaphorical.

But I think it might be. But it is almost, maybe the energy, it's almost like Ouija energy that like I, I'm on ground that I thought was flat and I'm trying to stand on my scooter and I am slowly slipping what I realize is downhill. So now I'm even farther away from these kids. And they're flying away from them.

And I go, what is the sort of propulsive strength they have to send them upwards? Because I'm realizing this is what I thought was flat earth is a pretty steep hill that is crashing me into the wall. You talked about the Ouija energy. I'm having Waluigi energy. Waluigi energy.

And we're talking about Ouija, the psychic game, not Ouija, the 1930s photographer. Photographer. Different, like he was a photojournalist. But they're the same. They're the same because we're all the same. We're all the same. They're gonna have to call in Ouija.

Ouija is Garfield. When I'm done with these kids. This is what drives me crazy when I'm watching Jeopardy or something and I say an answer and they say that's wrong. I'll say Thomas Edison and they'll go, no, Copernicus or whatever. I'll an answer and they say that's wrong. I'll say Thomas Edison and they'll go, no, you know, Copernicus or whatever and I'll go, but they're the same.

They are the same. I can't be wrong. I feel like you could go- They're energy. I feel like you could go on Jeopardy and say, for every answer, look in the mirror. Look in the mirror because seeing yourself is seeing the other is seeing Ouija. Ken Jennings won't like hearing that.

No. Ken Jennings, okay, okay, okay, Jay. No, go ahead, please. I mean. And that's part of why we want you here because you are so unfiltered. Yeah, well, okay, all right. So the student becomes the master?

I don't think so. I think that, I think. No, the student's still a student. No, he's still a student. He doesn't have the Trebekian kind of like gray haired, just suave energy. No. And I need that.

I need that when I'm wading through trivia, I need a guide who's gonna get me to the other side of this room. And they are the same person as we established. Yeah, that guy works. But, whoa, you know, some people are the same people, but not in that. But they're parts, they're all parts of the same thing.

So you say like, oh, well, my hand is made of the same stuff as my feet, but I can't use them for the same job. Yeah. Well, people- I mean, I can. Yeah, I've seen it. Those people have lost some limbs and then they learn to do, that's actually- No, I was just thinking about trying to get somebody off.

Oh, no. Well, I'm realizing, you know what? Yeah. You probably could. You absolutely could be a little funky. Well, let's not go there, but let's just say, uh, Thailand. Okay. Okay. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Which is here. Yeah. And what we're talking about, that's here, which is right. We're there, right. Things are moving fast. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, which is here. Yeah, and so we're talking about that's here Which is right now things are moving fast and that's your original plan Yeah, and what we are finding is that what we thought the industry was just kind of lying dormant

Do we need these lights? They're so bright. Oh, I'd like them to be up a little bit more. I Can you put them up for Brian and down for me? They're so bright. Oh, I'd like them to be up a little bit more. Can you put them up for Brian and down for me? I do wanna shine as much as I can here, up top. That's what we're geared up for. What'd you say, who's this? It's going down. Did you say who's this?

Who's this? Kevin, I love the initiative. I've never seen you take it before, but I do wanna say, I'm just talking sometimes. I don't need the lights to change. I just wanna talk about the lights. Now, you can talk about the changes. Keep an eye on that fucking dog.

Talk about who's this of it all. That was strange. But the industry was lying dormant. It was just lying dormant. It was just lying dormant. It was sort of playing possum a little bit. And now we've seen things really start to heat up and some old IP that we've been sitting on, specifically the Teen Pope franchise,

has been aging like a puddle of wine where what we thought was no interest from the industry was actually, they were just, they were hodling. They were biting, weren't they? It was a paralyzing level of extreme interest. Yes. So what seemed like they were just, you know, inactive and not wanting to touch it

was them being so excited. It is the 13 year old boys aching need to talk to that beautiful new girl at school, but you can't do it year after year. And then when he comes into his own and she realizes that there's more to life than just her own beauty, that's the marriage that will lead to the kiss, that will lead to one night of sex

that will last seven seconds. And this is the timing that we've been talking about. And I would say by extension to Teen Pope as IP is actually the girl who's so hot that no one asks her out. Exactly. They all take care of her. They're too intimidated.

Which she wants. Nobody wanted to buy the project. Which she wants that no one asks her out. Exactly. They all take care of her. They're too intimidated. Which she wants. Nobody wanted to buy the project. Which she wants every guy to ask her. Yeah. Literally any guy. Yeah, and it is done.

She's down. Anyone would just ask. Yeah, anyone. This teen Popeye P is horny dog. And so I think that it's actually a really special moment that we're in where finally the industry is getting up the nuts to come and ask out Teen Pope, the hot girl. And the hot girl has a level of horniness, Teen Pope,

where she's ready to basically give it up for anyone. Yeah, which could be read as desperation, but it's not. It's empowerment. It is sheer empowerment. It's a lack of shame. It's fruition. It's freedom. It's freedom.

It's freedom. It's the stages of life we all have to pass through. That's the Krebs cycle. Yeah. Don't know what that is, but I do agree. Mr. Krebs from, from SpongBob. Yeah. So the Avengers are doing phase four and following that will come phase five.

They are looking for new Avengers. Sony Marvel Earwolf was looking through their catalog of characters. They sort of landed on Teen Pope, not every single element, the teen stuff, they're not loving. And they'd like to keep religion out of it. Yeah. Just because it's Marvel.

Yeah. And they kind of want to be for everybody. They don't mind a religious metaphor. Well, they are also- Marvel Jesus, Deadpool's Marvel Jesus. They absolutely know how litigious the Roman Catholic Church can be. Yeah.

Like those, they will go after you. So they want to do something that, they're okay with the religious stuff, but it has to be something that they would like. Yeah. That those guys they would like. Yeah. That those guys really like. Did you see Deadpool, Brian? I have, yeah, great product.

No, you didn't. Suck my nugget. He's always getting in everyone's. He says, he says, I mean, I'm unfiltered, but he is. No, yeah, he makes me look extremely filtered because he's saying it's the craziest. Which I, in watching that project, I was like, I think this is a conscious choice

that this character acts this way. I had the same, and it was about, it was probably about six-sevenths of the way through the film. Yes. Because the whole time I had been going, oh, this is so sad, he doesn't know he's behaving. I know. You know, this man is not in control of any,

and I don't think the performer is. It's so sad for everyone else involved in the production. Well, because the camera's there. And they actually worked really hard. And you're not supposed to address that element. And so. And it took me out of the process, out of the film experience and thinking like,

okay, they just were letting him go off script all the way up to this and they used all this footage and like you- The editor seemed to be asleep at the wheel. No, I was composing a missive that would have taken to task multiple craftsmen involved in the creation of this film. And it was probably about nine tenths of the way

through the movie that I did start to say, there's a few minutes left and I'm going, wait a second, this many mistakes couldn't happen. There are no coincidences said Dr. Jung. I'll do you one better. I actually, before I went to my, you know, Yelp review of this film, I was like, well, let's go back to the original comic book series.

Read the entire comic book series up to this point. And it was in the last maybe two episodes. What a treat. But I was like, again, this is happening? He's acting so weird. How many stages and steps has this been approved to get to printing and be put out there? And then I was like, probably like the second or the second to last step,

like a comic book. I was like, okay, this is intentional. They're doing very reminiscent to me of when they brought Ricky back for the Globes, this feeling of like, okay, he's promised to do, to be good this time. And then watching him be like, yeah, it must've been. It must've been sealed fucking shit. He was crossing things I didn't know. He lied.

Yeah, he crossed his genitals. He was Lucy in the football all over again. Yeah. No, I felt suckered. I felt like a fool. And, and damned if I wasn't laughing my head off at the same time. Oh boy.

Pissing my damn pants. So, Teen Pope. It's weird, Deadpool's so weird. We're looking at a few different, so historically we have Sean here as the Teen Pope. They are. Jason Attitude. Jason Attitude was the character's name.

Is Marvel okay with that name? Yes. Who's okay. What? Thanks, Kevin. Do you want to be a little closer to the mic for the, for the question answering? I don't need details. I mean, yes or no. Yes or no is fine. I do need it fast.

Things are starting to move pretty fast. Yeah. They were slow for a bit, but it's all. Let me just follow up. Are they cool with an alternative spelling of either attitude or Jason? Something that we could get a Z in there or some kind of like five- Jason, like these hens. Multiple T's or not enough T's or something?

These kids love having hens. Yeah. Maybe that's what's making them so fucking fast. Wait, here we go, we're getting an answer. We're gonna give an answer. Yes. Okay, he said yes. All Wait, here we go, we're getting an answer. We're gonna give an answer. Yes. Okay, he said yes. All right, so. Okay, they're okay with that.

Yeah, so it's just the letter J and a pack of Zin, like a little tin of Zin, right? They love Sean, so this is the first thing they said. They love Sean, they love Sean's enthusiasm. I got really excited in the meeting and I think it was infectious. I was actually. Sean's enthusiasm. I got really excited in the meeting and I, and I think it was infectious. I was actually going nuts.

They said, so we love Sean and Sean goes, holy shit. That was exciting for me because I was not up until that point. That's not what I thought was happening on the other side. It was part of why I was doing so much. Did you think you were in trouble going into that meeting?

I assumed that when I left the meeting, I would be informed that I was in trouble. And there was an element of me continuing to make noises and do things just so that I would not invite the vacuum in which they could tell me I was in trouble. And then I finally just got so sleepy that I laid down on the table and this is when they were like,

well, this element works, we love Sean. Yeah. Fuck man. Yeah. I hadn't, to get real for a second, I had not heard that before. You had not heard that they love you? That you had not heard that before. You had not heard that they love you that you had not heard that affirmation from. Uh, no, that was not my experience that people were saying that about me or to me.

Uh, um, that was not the typical, uh, response to I will say what causes you pain is also your superpower. Yeah. Uh, that also, again, that was not my experience. You know, I understand that. Yeah. I know that was a lot of times what our experience is and then what the experience actually is, and then what our experience of what it actually is,

is not the experience itself. Okay. And just to jump in here, in this case, the experience was just kind of, just the experience, just exactly what it looked like. The experience was what the experience was. It was not really the superpower so much as a huge problem. Yes. And this is not even being the guy that went through it, just the guy sitting next to the guy. Even for me, it was becoming like a, like a really, really profound issue.

Nothing good about it whatsoever. But let's go back to what we were saying at the start. Laying dormant, energy building up. Yes. Crescendo. What you had there was way too much energy, way too much. And it can be really dangerous if it just builds up. It just, you have like, you just have this magma

flying up and burning people. You can actually be arrested if you don't help someone get it out. Yeah, if there's only like, if you see a lot of feces being thrown around, like it's hard to be like, okay, let's accept that. Sorry, I'm having trouble connecting right now because I am just sort of walking back through

what it meant to me to hear that in the moment and everything leading up to it and how rare it actually has been to just get any kind of positive reaction on you know my whole thing. Let me say this don't get used to it you know I do take that yeah take that for what it is I do just take that for what it is I think I understand what it is and it's very special what happened but do not get used to it yes yeah no that makes sense and so they're just going to, they're

taking a quick offer out to Robert Downey Jr. for $300 billion to be the voice of. Teen Pope. Yes. They're hoping for Teen Pope to be a dog. Uh, this is, this is kind of the new direction that they're going. Okay.

Last I heard, last I heard was it was going to be Downey's voice, your body or parts of your body, some, some aspect of you, but that's shifted at this point. I think they were going to try to get close to my skin tone, but they weren't sure that was prior to them deciding it should be a dog. But they were going to maybe, maybe put one of Sean's ears on the dog, but there's gonna be fur over it. Yeah. Like we have been told that one of his ears

would be there. My ear would basically be the dog's asshole. That's. When you look under the tail, it would be an ear and it would be a little disconcerting. I would not, I would not. Yeah, go ahead. I wouldn't be insulted

because Teen Pope's asshole is a major plot point in the franchise. Yeah, and I don't think it'll be an issue. Some people said. Boy, I really have forgotten this. I don't remember that being part of it at all. Okay, let me just say that. Okay.

Because this has a new life. Yes. Ryan's in the lab. Yeah, I feel. Reconfiguring some of that. I feel empowered to kind of bring in some sub storylines and some things that initially are like, this is not going to work. But I think now more than ever they can work. Metaphor makes the machine run. And I think that you got some really powerful imagery associated

with Teen Pope's asshole and how it kind of speaks to the experience of human beings, but some specific groups that you feel connected to. Yeah, and I'm very influenced by Ken Russell's 70s films, and I think a lot of, you know, just jarring, just makes no sense, cutaway shots that are thrown in there to keep the audience either engaged or confused. Wake up!

Wake up, go to sleep, smell it. Yep. Think about what you fantasize about. Smell this, close your eyes, put your hand out. So we're moving through some of these steps right now. Just to double back though, I think there was some initial concern, I think from you, Hayes,

and from some other people in the room of like, will it just look strange to have an ear there? And the prevailing logic was that no one's gonna wanna be the first person to raise their hand and go, hang on. I've closely inspected a dog's ass when I know that's incorrect. Yeah, yeah. And that even shows that they were like looking at it when it was on the screen, if they're mad about it. It's like, okay, then why were you looking at that so much?

Yeah. I didn't even see that. I actually don't, that's not the kind of thing I like to look at. Yeah, and let me talk to you about the editors that we've been talking to. That's something that's been brought up. And it's been a sort of like one on one off

as far as like whether we shame them for having the willingness to like edit footage of a dog's asshole that looks like an ear or that that's a positive. That's how we keep them on. We'd be like, we're gonna tell people you edited this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I liked what you said to them too was like,

you know, you got all these questions here. I may need to do a little editing myself to the staff around here. Do a little editing to the paychecks that go out. A little trimming, clip the end off. It's getting a little long this scene. Duke and Blake, that game. Final cut.

Final cut. Kill you. iMovie. Murder cut. Final cut. Kill you. I movie. Murdered. Yeah. With a blade, sharp blade. Yeah. Drown people.

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We want to like,. We wanna keep Sean. I think the dog issue is not negotiable. So there is a dog sitting here. It's not like- I'd hate to move her right now. She kinda just got calm. No, I think the dog should just be over there. And they have cameras now that they can actually

move the camera, you know? So the dog can just kinda be wherever and they have cameras now that like, they can actually move the camera, you know, so the dog can just kind of be wherever and they can move the camera over to just like be looking at the dog. So to me that's fine. And the sleeping of it, like they have, they have just like software, now you click a button and the dog is like, not sleeping anymore.

Now they got wide open eyes. Yeah, exactly. They can put ulcers, they can change the eye color apparently. And so they're, we're hearing Teen Pope 2, Dog Teen Pope, Teen Pope 2, Puppy Popey, Teen Pope 2, Spider-Man versus Superman. To me, that sounds amazing.

If we could have this be the Spider-Man versus Superman movie, I mean, I wanna give. People have been, I mean, drooling in anticipation of when Spider-Man would finally give that loud Superman what for with a big web to the face. Yeah. And I, and I, and I want to see it too. And so for that moment to happen and then to

have teen pup, uh, the dog pope. Teen pup, the dog. That's so funny. I know one has, yeah, no one has brought that up yet. We've gone through so many roundtables. Really bad was that. That's a really, that's has brought that up yet. We've gone through so many round tables. That's a really bad one. That's a really, that's so funny that that's that. It just came out of me.

That's so, that's so good. I don't think we can use it, but that is so good because we've already made all the merchandising and the posters and the action figures and everything's already locked. But at any rate, for them to be there and to say, whether it's Robert Downey Jr.'s voice or my voice, for them to say, oh my. You know?

It'll be Robert Downey Jr. I'm pretty confident. Gracious me. So we need to put a little of this on wax, I think, and kind of, you know, like, mail it to ourselves so when they come to us and be like, hey, you know, Robert, Robert's interested, we'll be like, well, we did it already, like the shit's done.

Oh, it's actually done. I see what you're saying. So get ahead of it. That phrase, get ahead of it. I don't wanna be just sitting here and just letting this all happen around us. Forgiveness, not permission, right? We say, oops, it's actually we did the damn thing.

And oh, and by the way, it's out and people are loving it. Yeah. I'm hoping to put it up on, at least on my Netflix, if not everyone's Netflix. Well, I was gonna bring, I'm saying, I'm willing to put it on my Vimeo page. Okay. Which at this point has $1,500?

Okay. And so you think about that like exponentially, 1,500 followers, maybe they have. Each of them has. Each of them has like maybe seven. Seven, eight. Sure. And then extrapolation, extrapolation. This is where the studio.

Back of the napkin math. Yeah, this is where the studio is always like, how can we get this to be viral? It's viral on a community level. It's viral on a grassroots level. Yeah, viral doesn't have to mean everyone's seeing it. It just has to mean that it was somehow passed from one person to another.

We can be viral in this room right now. Oh, everyone in here knows what we're talking about. That's virality. This is viral. Yes, it's just like the scale of it doesn't always have to be the movie outbreak. You know what I mean? Well, I will say I took a Liberty and I got my iPhone out.

Hey, dog, now who's the Dean of Pop? And I cut together a little trailer and I put it on my Vimeo page. Shit, man. Already, already my girlfriend passed it on to a couple of her friends who love dogs. And it is. So you're back with the girlfriend.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So cool. It is. And I know obviously I didn't have the kindest things to say in the initial wake of- It's water under the bridge. You know, it's water under the bridge. That division, but that was me in some ways

just coming to you with what I think you wanted to hear. You know, sometimes you don't know how much medication someone needs to be tolerable. And then when you find out what that level of legal medication of an individual can be, it's bliss. That's really beautiful. And just for my part, I'm so happy for you. And I also just want to acknowledge that I came to you

with sort of the opposite sentiment of being too enthusiastic about what she had going on and just talking about her in ways that, now that you guys are back together, the things that I asked permission to do. Yeah, to participate in or provoke her to do. Because she was in a very, very, very, very fragile, vulnerable place for years and years and years.

While she was together with you. Yeah, yeah. And I'll admit, I took advantage of that in certain realms and in other times I kind of didn't treat her the best way. We're none of us perfect. But we're all haven, we're all connected, we're all Garfield, let's be honest with you. We're all Garfields. So to answer your question, yes, I'm back with her.

I'm still not willing to say what her name is. So I'm going to kind of hold off on that for just a little bit longer. If you get, if you, I mean, and I know she says like, I really wish you would just let people. It's going to come out in court. Like the judge is going to want to hear the name. We would not get, gets, unless all that. If she gets to the point where she feels like

she needs to take legal action against me for some of the things that has happened in the past, but now that we're back together and I'm proving that I love her to a degree, I think it's all good. That starts, again, that's her substantial limitations. That's the trust. Over again.

That's the trust I've established with her. That's so fucking happy for you. Limitations over again. That's the trust I've established with her. Mm-hmm. That's so fucking happy for you. Thank you so much. And I do wanna say, she says to both you guys, hey, what's up? Oh my God. Oh, nice. So nice.

You're gonna get this guy excited. Hey, what's up? What's up? You, I don't know, I don't know your name. Yeah, it doesn't matter. No need to repeat anything I said back to her. Brian's girlfriend's good enough. Yeah, Brian's girlfriend.

Good enough. That's a big, that's cool to get a what's up from that person. So speaking of names, Kevin, do we have Brian's character's name handy? I know you've been digging back through the archives and maybe just like also telling us kind of where we left off with Jason. Father Silvio.

Father Silvio. Father Silvio. Yeah. Okay, yeah. And also telling us where we left it, like anything else that you can provide us with. Any information. As we embark on this journey. It's so big, the scope of it.

So just getting a little detail. And we did think, we thought it was in our bones, the memory of it, but, and so I was like, I don't need to go back and reread was like, I don't need to go back and reread the scripts. I don't need to revisit any of this. It's so much and it's so, yeah. I have actually- It's been a while.

It is in my bones, but I don't really have access to stuff in my bones. I'm not going to my bones. I can't just like see and like look at what's in my bones. You can't remember marrow. One of the hardest things for me to look at. I'm not a radiologist. I'm not. I'm just another creator.

Characters aren't born of calcium. Yeah, so. That's what we're saying. That actually, I could see the Teen Pope saying that. Yep, yeah. When they try to get him to have his nose. Honestly, I think that was one of the most brilliant tropes I came up with was for Team Poe,

he can say anything. If he says it with a certain confidence and a certain swagger, he can say anything. That's just how it is, I guess. That's just how it is. Maybe it's a little bit of a Deadpool kind of thing. Maybe. I mean, if we're lucky,

if you learn to join a guy the way he's acting so weird. Well, it's particle board. I don't know if that's true. Yeah, it's a... And we don't have to like corner different, I want the three of us to be like all equal hands on this and not trying to corner different aspects of it. Like whose idea it was that have-

I hate that shit. I hate that score keeping, saying- Pissing contest. Whatever he wants with a certain confidence. Right. Vimeo, Count Door. But it was my original idea. Other people had equally good,

who's ever was. I know, but it didn't come from nothing, right? It came from, at the very least, hearing a bad idea and trying to beat it. Okay, all right, yeah. If it exists in opposition. Okay. You know, it's these rival these, these rivalries, right?

Without each other, they're nothing. Yeah, that's right. You do need an enemy to have a battle. You don't get to that idea without hearing the original idea, which is that he can say nothing and that he has basically no attitude. Yeah, and there was him being shy.

For me, it was a joke on his name, Jason Haddish. Him being scared that he has big boogers, and he does. Like, was him being shy. Which is, for me, was a joke on his name, Jason Attitude. Him being scared that he has big boogers. And he does. Like, that was the pitch for a while, that he was like, his biggest fear was actually true. He had these big boogers. And he's like covering his face.

Well, he did. He had sinus issues, which at the time was a pretty important medical issue going through our. This was like 2014. 2014 and a lot of teens were kind of reacting to the air pollution and starting to get more allergies. And so they're generating more snot. So not only is the body going through its, it's hormonal changes, but you are seeping out this kind

of hideous excrement from your face. Yeah, you're leaking precious fluid. Yeah, which is not, and they've transformed into this kind of like disgusting iteration of what man can be. Yes. I mean, I think, I think.

Fast. Yeah, so what, I think your point originally is like, that was a powerful metaphor, right? Yeah, and whoever's point it was, like again, I'm not trying to be territorial about that. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. If we could all share it all. We're all in agreement that it is a profound metaphor.

I probably had some input as well. I think so. I think I had, would have been the first one to pitch that he pronounces the word eccentric as if it has two S's in it. So he says eccentric. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, boy, that gentleman's rather eccentric. I did find that difficult in the script writing process to find opportunities for him to say that because if you do a find and search,

it appears in the script about, I think, like 72 different times. Yeah, the goal was 75. Yeah, yeah. She was forcing it in some of them. Yeah. Because we want people to know that it's not a mistake that he's saying it like that, you know?

Yeah, it's not the actor. It's like that there was some intention behind it. Yes, yes. And some, you know, we did get the feedback, it's like, is this the catchphrase? We're not clear on what, where this is going. Yeah, no, it's not a catchphrase. And I do remember, I lost my cool on that one.

When it's a catchphrase, you'll know. I said, I said, you can take catchphrases and fucking shove them into your asshole, pull them back out and chug them like they're a fucking dick that you've never had in your mouth before. And I remember, I don't remember it was a Gail Berman or who it was, but they, they heard me.

It was a high ranking executive. It was a big, it was a biggie. High ranking female executive. It was a biggie. I do recall that. Yeah. Because I was like, I can't say that to a dude, cause that would be weird.

Yeah. But the, you know, but to a lady. Come on. Yeah. Because I was like, I can't say that to a dude, cause that would be weird. Yeah. But the, you know, yeah. But to a lady, come on. Yeah. She gets it. I mean, at the end of the day we all do it. It's an, and, and we're better friends for it. You know, I think, uh, we all ended up going out for steaks with Gail and just, and having some laughs. Well, what happens in the meeting room? A couple martinis or martrinis. Yes, that's right.

It never, it never bleeds. And we never want it to enter anything else. It better not. You can say whatever you want in there. Like it's, and it doesn't affect any of our friendship. You can go fucking crazy. And there's also sort of like, and my lawyer said that, you know, you can bring up things that have happened

in the past on a podcast. There's a legal sort of like period where, where it's not forcible anymore. So that, that's the only reason I just brought that up. Yes. I really researched that because I've been looking for an opportunity to, to tell that story. And just to talk about it.

Yeah, it was a good meeting and it was a good story. It was a good meeting. It was very dramatic. So just. That's one of the most frustrating things to me is like not letting the public know that the real drama is behind those meeting doors. I always say this, we're more interesting than the show. Oh, we are the show.

We're more interesting than the show. If you could see what we're doing when we're making this stuff, you'd be laughing and having fun. This is the movie and they should have Deadpool and Wolverine watching the meeting instead of we're watching them. There should be an audience, like we're in the meeting and there's an audience.

And the smart list documentary proved this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because they did invite us in. They did pull back the curtain. They threw the proved that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because they did invite us in. They did pull back the curtain. They threw the curtain away. Yeah. Where's the curtain? Hey, was there a curtain here?

I don't even remember anymore. I did. I've been, I'm still pushing for this. That's more Deadpool than Deadpool. I've been pushing for filming meetings in the anticipation that this hit project will want those, those juicy behind the scenes extras. The DVD extras.

That you can, that not only can you hear, but if it's playing at the same time you're discussing a scene and you're seeing what, how the discussion and the meetings going on, that is, that is a, that is a multi-layered sandwich that I'm going to chef's kiss, you know. But. Absolutely.

Oh yes. I keep getting this thing, it was like, people don't like to see a lot of multiple windows when they're watching things or some bullshit like that. Please tell that to any- That's why we don't have any windows on our house. Yeah. That makes sense.

To that, well- How should we have one? The most famous buildings in the world have windows. So stick it up your ass, pull it out, chuck it like it's a dick. Throw it out, show it like a cock that you've never seen before. Yeah, I don't know why that. That element, yeah.

Kevin? You guys did a live show, and you did a sequel. That's interesting, and I knew that. And I'm just refreshing myself reading up on the. This isn't a sequel. This isn't a sequel. Why? You think it's cause it's called Teen Pope

Two that it's a sequel? Yeah, it wasn't the. Doggy. I, and I wasn't part, I don't know if I was part of that. Oh, honey. You were. I was or I was not.

Big time. I was big time. Yes, I do remember that now. I have to be reminded when, if. You were. I was or I was not? Big time. I was big time, yes, I do remember that now. I have to be reminded when, if I did things. But it's live, it's live theater. Well, you hear so many things. Yeah, I do a lot of things. But. And where, and what was the venue?

This was UCB Sunset, I think, right? We don't really want to talk about that. Yes, I do remember that. I remember feeling like, are we doing a TED Talk or are we doing a live presentation of this? Cause we don't really, the whole UCB sunset thing, we're trying to really put that in its place. Yeah.

In the past. Maybe that's me. I think I disassociated and that's why I don't remember it because that whole time and that whole place and that the energy there was just like BAD bad. Yes. Yes. You know.

It was pretty grim. So we're forgetting about that, Kevin. What happened in the original one? The original one, you play a tennis match, state tennis match championship with Pope Jason attitude. And there's a Southern judge who's the coach. And he says, I don't know if you have this in you. Yes, I remember that one. And he does a huge move and wins the game, and Pope Jason Attitude says, thank Christ, and then the coach dies. Right.

Okay, so tennis, they are doing tennis in the movie now. The tennis. Something of a cause celebre, is it not? The tennis. We might have something here with the tennis. It's a dog, it's the racket and the dog. Can I pitch something? Where it goes. You mean in terms of, are we talking about-

I'll wait. Trying to justify a dog playing tennis or are we trying to- Thank you, same question, but a little faster. Are we justifying it? Are we justifying it with like a cowboy hat on it? Yeah, well, yeah, I mean, we can do that angle. Okay.

We can sort of give it, we can do a tie-in. And hopefully like. I think you should be wearing a sweatband. But I don't think, I think if, I mean. The tie-in like using your foot to get someone off. I would just, anytime they're pushing back on it, it's like, why is this dog X? I'm always like, air bud, you know.

Sure. Any of those, like why like all those adorable dogs. We have the shorthand for it already. But again, it's like that was obvious. He's holding the basketball in his paws. Like you could kind of, like there's only really one way to do it. Well, yeah.

Why does that, there's 10 or 15 minutes left. And I think that Air Bud Golden Receiver obviously was a successful sequel that used a dog breed to do sports name. I do think that what will really make it sing for everyone is if we do come up with a name for the like a subtitle for the movie. It's like an Air Bud-esque thing that has to do with tennis. That conveys tennis. That's like a subtitle for the movie. It's like an airbud-esque thing that has to do with tennis.

That conveys tennis. It's like, yeah. Teen Pope, 30 Love. This is like, this is not it at all. It's like, you know, Jack Russell backhand, you know? But backhand would have to sound like terrier. So it's that can't be that. No.

Can I hit something? Doberman pitcher, if it's baseball, that works. But Jack Russell backhand's terrible. That has nothing to do with it. But Damon and Affleck said you got to get to the good ideas through the bad ones. And I think they've done that once or twice. So I would listen to them. Yeah, bad ideas, bad movies. I think they've done that once or twice. So I would listen to them.

Yeah, bad ideas, bad movies. But I am curious, I'm curious, what were you willing to offer for us to improve? We all saw the hit movie, Challengers, a tennis movie starring the dog, starring Team Pop, and it's called Air Bud. Sorry, we all saw the team Pope, team pup. And it's called air bud. Sorry. We all saw the hit movie challengers and what

if air bud has romance with two cats and the movie is called air bud love wins, but it's spelled like tennis love. Okay. So I'm confused. Are we, are we talking, are we working on an air bud movie or we're trying to do the teen pope? The teen pope is a dog.

And again, no bad ideas, but we are so far away from our goal on this at this point. Like this is frustrating me. It is like to be sitting here, like trying to build up some. Border volley. Border volley. There it is.

Okay. Normally I would say like the bad pitch helped get to the good one. I think that was happening on a totally There it is. Okay. Normally I would say, Okay. The bad pitch helped get to the good one. I think that was happening on a totally parallel, separate trick. Yeah. And if anything, the bad pitch interfered with it.

Yeah. It did get me further away for a little while. Could've stalled and helped. Team Pup the Dog Pope border volley. Pretty good. That's pretty good. So. That's good. We do have to have a border collie, and I think. I know.

But they can take this dog and they'll, they can paint it, they can push a button. They can paint it. And it said a border collie that's awake. They could make it snowing in this room right now. Filters and stuff they put on here. Forget day for night, night for day. I mean, we're talking border collie

for whatever the fuck that thing is. Like nothing, nothing. I mean, I'm good with it only in so much as like, I don't really, I'm not invested in what the title is. You don't care about any of it. I don't care. Well, I don't care about any of it. But because it's not my thing, it's not your thing, it's not their thing, it's everyone's thing, so it's not for me to care or own and so. No, written and directed by Garfield at the end of the day.

Yes. And that's what I'm talking about. But I, you know that for a long time, I was like, does it need a title? Do we have to have a poster with a title on it or an image? Like what are we fucking doing? Fucking title, man.

Yeah. You were asking, do I even need to be alive? Yeah. Do I even need to exist? Well, that was definitely during a period with my girlfriend and I where I was like, you know, you guys had to talk me down from like some pretty dark stuff.

Yeah, but just like, but I think in a way, it was a healthy attitude of like, do we need the time? Do we need the movie? Totally. It might've seen like I was like self-destructive and suicidal, but it was a very positive thing that I was going through. And I'll concede, even at the time, I was trying to like talk you,

I was trying to get in there myself. Yeah. So just inserting myself in any way that I could. Like that was my agenda. Yeah, no, I got that, I got that. I was like very open about it, even then. And I was slagging her off, you know, no name. Yeah.

Just kind of going at her, without any real specifics, just some pretty unfair statements. That's so funny. I would, she was asking me in her like, her voice, like, why don't you say my name to anyone? And I really, and I can't remember if it was out of protection because of your advances.

I would have used it, I would have used that to my own, Yeah. Yeah. So that to my own ends. Yeah. Yeah. Both of them. At a certain point, that became my truth with her. I was like, I'm protecting you because this is a dangerous business.

And he would have said something mean ass. He would have done what he did with border pups. I've got a gift for that. I'd be rhyming her name with goodness knows what. He would have pun the fuck out of her. The devil knows what, that. I'd be rhyming her name with goodness knows what, the devil knows what. Yeah, it would be. Like just say one, like just say one that it could, just say what it is.

A name it could, yeah, say her name. Just say the name that it is and then we can like. I could say the name that it could be. Okay. I mean it could, here's the thing. Just say what it is, let's for this one, let's just say what it is. It could be Bernadette Gab could be Vanessa Jenner, Abigail, Matilda Maude,

it could be Jack, you know, who knows? Yeah, I mean, he said, and one of those was Abigail, okay. Let me go grab a snail with your slow ass, and be faster than trying to get out of the house with you. Or you could just say, have a snail. Yeah. I have a snail. What might have been?

Abba snail. It was a little quicker. Hurry up, Abba snail. Yeah. We're late. Oh my God. She would, her shaking hands would go reaching for her meds at that moment. It's like, I'm about to have one of my episodes, you know?

I just feel like, come on. It's just, it's just, it's meeting room. I'm about to have an episode too, of Bar Rescue on the tube, because you're taking so long, I'm gonna start watching TV. Yeah. It's like really, sometimes Abba Snail's so slow.

But that's not her name. But that would be a good burn But that would be a good burn. That would be a good burn. OK, OK, OK, OK. Bye. Hollywood handbook.