Hollywood Handbook - Claudia O’Doherty, Our Terminal List Friend

Episode Date: August 9, 2022

The Boys welcome back CLAUDIA O’DOHERTY to help update their terminal list.Watch the video recording of this episode at Patreon.com/TheFlagrantOnes.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/p...rivacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a HeadGum Podcast. So the product, like what they're trying to like sell you is actually a processed version of the real thing. So like, of course, all day long, we're eating zinc in our vitamins. We're wearing it at summertime we all are wearing zinc every single day zinc is around it like you would have to work so much harder to not absorb the appropriate zinc levels yeah you'd have to be actively avoiding it but what they're putting in these pills and in these creams and thank you for calling them that they're not supplements they're not they're they are pills they're selling you pills and creams you are a pill head if you
Starting point is 00:00:53 take zinc or yes obviously if you do the creams and then the actual healthy version that actually has like effects is what and what you need to get is raw zinc or no you get it you go i mean if you if you can afford i know i'm speaking from a place of privilege i always want to acknowledge that on this show if you can't afford it go to the zinc buy a mine bring a pickaxe right get there. Get a hard hat with a light in the front. Yes? Go in there, chip the zinc off the wall, and just pop the rock straight into your mouth and suck on it all the way out.
Starting point is 00:01:36 You know? And that is going to get you the good stuff, the pure stuff. You won't be sunburned. You won't get a cold. You. You won't be sunburned. You won't get a cold. You'll get various other ailments, but you will be basically immune from the common cold. They say there's no cure.
Starting point is 00:01:55 Anybody who tells me that, I go, you don't have a zinc mine. Claudia, supplements, any ores that you're working with what are you what rocks are you sucking i love i'm i love iron i love zinc iron so good and iron you can get just go to the playground go just go stick the monkey bars in your mouth yeah but i prefer to go to the source you know that's a you know once it's been turned into a monkey bar that does you know often there's a little paint no there's all these other oxides there's so many oxides alloys the alloys to me are the ones that i go like i'm annoyed i am alloyed i'm a yeah
Starting point is 00:02:40 yeah i'm gonna talk to my lawyer about all these alloys you put in here because i'm gonna sue the pants off you guys exactly and they say oh well actually you know we didn't set up the monkey bars for people to like suck them but kids play on these kids that's what i say that's what they sound like exactly look at me kids play on these meanwhile i brought a chair from home right to stand on yeah to access the bar to be able to put my whole mouth on the bar yeah i got i grabbed the step ladder from you know uh from petco i don't know if you guys know you could take those but a lot of times by the fish tanks, because they have three layers of fish tanks,
Starting point is 00:03:27 the ones up high in order to feed them, they've got these kind of step stools. They just leave them out on the floor. A lot of times I walk in, there's no price tag on them, there's nothing. So I'll just pick those. I'll walk that over to the park. And it's very stable.
Starting point is 00:03:43 It's more stable than a chair for me really i need it because of my knees yeah yeah i got big knees well i'm just grateful to hear about these stepladder things i really did not know that about petco yeah life hack the show has become mostly life hacks since the last time you were here i love that it just felt necessary it's so it's so good because often i'm like i should be hacking this moment like i'm just doing something normal and i'm like that's why we wanted to have you as a guest well it feels like you're leaving some hacks on the table guys hack me i need to get hacked when's the last time claudia was here kevin kevin's our archivist february 26 2018 whoa wow okay not as long ago as i was so it is actually pretty similar to when the last time
Starting point is 00:04:42 yeah i guess we were already doing like hacks at that point. I do kind of remember some hacks. I think we did hack it last time. I mean, we obviously, we did some discussion of our prank personas. You were here for the cheeky man. Uh-huh. Yeah. Yes. here for the cheeky man uh yeah um the yes that was the creation and i i think basically the
Starting point is 00:05:09 destruction the destruction of the of the cheeky man the day they were born and died but you know i look back and i go it's funny how quickly sort of culture and society changes underneath you where i listen that show and i go you couldn't make the cheeky man could not make that no exactly people would get so mad the snowflakes would melt exactly yeah i mean just from do just from doing the cheeky man which exactly all snowmen versus the cheeky man even though the cheeky man existed for like maximum 45 minutes i still think cheeky the cheeky man would win hands down hands down they'd be melted they'd be melted the snowman so yeah so uh so unfortunately because you you
Starting point is 00:06:01 couldn't make that today we will not be revisiting that today. We won't. We do want to honor the snowflake, obviously. That's most of our audience. And I'm concerned that, I don't know if this is the reason, but the Cheeky Man being Batgirl's nemesis in the movie, I'm concerned that that actually had something to do with, not the entire reason, but as part of the reason. There were other factors
Starting point is 00:06:25 of course if that didn't have a huge impact on the fate of that movie disappointing for me obviously to be you know the the main villain in a huge 90 million dollar uh yeah warner brothers property um and to have that shelved, but really proud of the work that I did. And the set, Claudia, and you'll understand this, the set, I was nervous. It felt more like a sleepover party
Starting point is 00:06:54 than going to work. It didn't feel like a job. I have always wanted to have a job like that. I've had a few that felt like camp. Okay. Yes. Which I think is similar, but it's not sleepover and i'm like it's not
Starting point is 00:07:09 felt like a sleepover yeah it's like day camp this was night shoes yeah yeah this was night because it's because back girls dark it's in the dark yeah like you don't see bats during the day very often no it's unusual and if you do that means they're really sick and distressed they're panicking yeah bats are scary if they're out during the day they're having a crisis a personal crisis yeah they're probably sick they're confused dying claudia can can you address what I've been hearing, which is that when they say that a movie is shelved, they're actually talking about that shelf behind you.
Starting point is 00:07:53 Yes, which is kind of why I wanted to come on the show today. You cleared out some space for Batgirl on the shelf. I see there's no movies there right now. You can't see the entire shelf in my frame. It's very tall it goes all the way up and you know because bats leave and you know they sort of like on the ceiling of caves as she wants to be up high so i put her up there look at i just sleeping up there just to take a moment just to take a moment like just to take a moment, like caves, mines, right?
Starting point is 00:08:27 Where somehow thematically. Something's going on here. Yes, there is something happening. Shelves. I don't know if it's just when you're on the shelves, right? Because aren't caves nature's shelves? Think about that. Claudia. Yes. nature's shelves think about that claudia
Starting point is 00:08:45 yes i mean this is what this is what i was bringing up for us i think there's something about you when you're on the show that we get into these pockets where it's all connected and you start to see pockets are a lot like caves as well aren't they oh my god and it's this it's the sacred geometry of our world that is so often overlooked and ignored yeah and when you dig it when you delve into uh when you shelve into life hacks yeah um when you get in the pocket which is a cave which is a ship which is exactly exactly right you you start to understand that like we're not all so different no we were all just wanting to get inside a shelf a cave right we were all little bugs we all were all these little bugs at one point yeah we want to be protected from some elements wind that doesn't go inside caves
Starting point is 00:09:47 and the woman many ways is a is a is a cave in a pocket yeah and you're pronouncing you're pronouncing warm warm human womb the human womb can be something thank you because most people don't say it that way and i appreciate that a lot well it's part of the woman yeah it's the shelf inside she's out there woman she's a woman all day she's woman all over this all over town blue marble right yeah so good to have you back we did want to get into some business of course um you know there's always housekeeping to do when you have a show like this you i mean one of the first things you said was it's so great to see you guys are still doing this i know when you got out you said wow the show's still here. Isn't it awesome? It's amazing.
Starting point is 00:10:51 And some people go, oh, I guess you told on yourself that you haven't checked in on the show in about five years. But actually, yeah. Don't say that. It could just be great. It's great today. It is great. I mean, it's always great. it is great i mean it's always great but i just hadn't i knew i hadn't reached out to you guys to tell you that i'm still so proud to see that you are still doing it well because a lot of people are doing other things like from the time they've been on the show like when you were on the show
Starting point is 00:11:15 the first time you were doing something else yeah now you've done some new stuff since yeah my i've built up you know my list of credits because that's how i like to sort of like move through the world i like to like keep doing something you can do that you can do that you can also put approach you can also put every new episode as a unique project on amdb is that what you've been doing? I don't, we're not, we haven't gotten approval for that yet, but we have, we've done all the paperwork and it's just like a bookkeeping thing. I guess my question is like,
Starting point is 00:11:53 do you put podcasts on IMDb? I check in on it every now and then. I, if you notice my bio on there is written by anonymous. There have been some speculation that I wrote it, but it was actually... No, this is Anonymous, the hacking organization. Right. Sorry, sorry.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Yeah. Speaking of life hacks. The ultimate hackers. Right. And people have said, well, some of the episodes on there like aren't even real you uh you you put guests on there that you never interviewed would never agree to be on the show some of the accolades that are you know listed in the bio are like not you know not necessarily awards that were like received i guess right my understanding is that if you deserve it
Starting point is 00:12:44 they'll put it in the bio write it in you might as well write it down like i would say you know somebody might say uh uh claudia delivered uh an an oscar caliber performance that's so sweet so then yeah they could say that then yeah you know it's like then just in the bio somebody who's a fan might just go like, yeah, she just won the Oscar. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You just like take that next step.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Well, if it was the caliber to do that. Because it's like, what's the difference? Like, and what are you? What exactly? Fucking dweeb is like looking it up. Like, no, no, no. I caught you. I know.
Starting point is 00:13:23 Actually, it was won by Mr. and Mrs. Blah, Blah, Blah, who gives a shit. Yeah, it's like, give me a break. It's like, let me fucking relax a little bit. If someone's a big enough fan to be looking at my IMDb, they deserve to be told that I won an Oscar. Do you know what I mean? They deserve that experience for them can you imagine
Starting point is 00:13:46 it's like a fad and they find out to go oh my god i thought i was the only one and now i see she's you know received this massive industry recognition the highest possible accolade from the most you know sort of like unimpeachable body well Well, and you say body, and that's the thing. We have, obviously, this podcast, according to the bio on Hayes' IMDb, is a Peabody Award winner. We've gotten the Peabody. Wow, you did?
Starting point is 00:14:15 Well, in the bio, and what I would say is, well, it's Peabody caliber. It's Peabody caliber work. No question. Who else is hacking life like this? We've become about fun facts as well. Did we do fun facts for you last time?
Starting point is 00:14:30 Look, I had fun. Okay. And that's a fact. And that's a big fact. Yeah. So I brought up that it was a bookkeeping issue with IMDb. And here's your fun fact for the day. And a little bit of a challenge as well.
Starting point is 00:14:43 Okay. Here's your fun fact for the day and a little bit of a challenge as well. Okay. Bookkeeping is one of the only words in the English language to have three double letters. Oh, wow. K-K-E-E. Can you think of another one, Claudia? Okay.
Starting point is 00:15:03 Like my first instinct is to say bubblegum. But then you think about it. It feels right. about it and then that actually doesn't have any but that's a really good guess but it actually doesn't have any well i had always thought that it had two b's but then actually i recently learned they're not next to each other though they're not next to each other and it's actually just it's one of everything sometimes repeated like you know there's there are it's spelled like michael bublego exactly now it is bublego yeah yes has he been on the show yes according to imdb yeah he's actually been on he's a he's a he's a monthly guest yes wow great well and it's like so it like, I guess that's not technically true,
Starting point is 00:15:47 but we did a Christmas album episode. He has a big Christmas album people like. So it's like, what's the fucking difference, dweeb? Actually, that episode was with Mr. Sean Distant who gives a shit.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Who cares? Yeah, who fucking cares? Committee is another one of the words. Wow. That's another one that doesn't have any double letters. No, I'm sorry. It has
Starting point is 00:16:17 three double letters. And what's the other one? You know, that one I'm going to leave for the audience there's a little homework for you listeners so i've given you two of the three and then and it could be fun to go and find the last one on your committee bubble gum no bubble gum was the wrong one that you said oh it's definitely not one yeah you know let's move away from fun facts
Starting point is 00:16:46 because I feel like we're getting bogged down. The housekeeping. You're distracted. The housekeeping. Yeah. We did have a little bit to do. Oh, yeah. Do the housekeeping for sure.
Starting point is 00:16:56 Well, do you want to do any plugs? You're on the pirate show. Oh, yeah. I'm on that pirate show. I don't know if anyone even needs to plug that show because people are crazy for it. People are getting absolutely rowdy about it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:10 Can I pitch something? And I'm not a writer for the show. Yeah. I was not available. They're not. Yeah. Yeah. But just this is a... It's one word.
Starting point is 00:17:21 Do with it what you want. Vampirate. Okay. Vampire-it. Okay. Vampire-it. Okay. Let's just say I'm going to text that to someone. Let's just say that. Let's just say I'm going to text that to someone who, you know, might be pretty intrigued to hear that.
Starting point is 00:17:39 Vampire-it. Because, I mean, you know, some might say, you're not in the second season but i am still on the text thread for the show so i could just send that so the text could send send that text in could be sent hollywood handbook this week on the patreon the boys drop another memorable pro version asan and i answer some listener questions on car Cousin, and the flagrant ones are mostly talking all things basketball. Check out all these shows and the video for today's episode with Claudia at patreon.com slash the flagrant ones. Eating better is easy with factors delicious ready to eat meals every fresh never frozen meal is chef crafted dietitian approved ready to go in just two minutes speaking of ready to go in
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Starting point is 00:26:13 you don't use cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to rocket money.com slash the boys that's rocket money.com slash the boys rocket money.com slash the boys we have some housekeeping to get to obviously uh as always with this show there's stuff that just has to happen totally has to be done yeah and we don't like to let it build up and it's been a long time since we've done this actually but we do need to update our terminal list oh right and can you just explain to me i because you know i've been out of the loop a little bit with like exactly what terminal loop me terminal people mean terminalist people have different names for it i'm actually curious what yours is because i know you sort of dabbled dabbled in this world but and i actually don't know if like this this is not what I used to, I didn't even really have a name for it, but there's this show,
Starting point is 00:27:07 The Terminalist on Amazon. Yeah, that gave us a little bit more of a definitive term to use for something we had already been kind of doing. And is it related to The Terminal, the Tom Hanks movie? I haven't seen it. I guess so. I guess that's what he's doing in
Starting point is 00:27:26 this movie as well basically a terminalist as we understand it or as a list of people that you will soon be like making terminal essentially like being on the list being on the list is terminal yes so it's like is it is it like are you giving them cancer? What I can tell you from the trailer for the show in which Chris Pratt plays a Navy SEAL. James Reese. Wow. Yeah. Commander Reese.
Starting point is 00:27:56 No shit. Yeah. Eight combat deployments. Yeah. No shit. Wow. Yeah. What they say is you don't want to end up on his list you don't like you want to stay on this list because being on the list is terminal and i would say the same of our terminal list you really don't want to be on that but we just like commander reese does on the show we do have some names to cross off uh and possibly some names to add when it's to reevaluate when you cross someone off is
Starting point is 00:28:27 it because they've worked their way off the list or is it because they've died we haven't really maintained the list in a while so i guess we will sort of be finding out one of those things or if they have worked their way off the list because sometimes i'm furious with someone and i say they're on my terminal list now and within a week i've forgotten what i was even mad about yeah for sure and that makes me glad oh i'm not constantly obsessively checking the terminal list and like carrying out uh in the way that commander james reese does exactly it's actually probably for the best to not be like on top of the list and and And Kevin, let's just cross him out with a marker or a
Starting point is 00:29:07 strike-through function. I know James Reese sometimes will cross them out with blood from his own bullet wound that he sustained during the battle that he was in with the person on the list. I would say, let's not do that. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:24 And Claudia, if you want to maintain yours too, I know you are starring in a show right now that is about killing people, celebrates killing people. Yeah, for sure. It's in the title. It's more, yeah, we don't, it's more about killing snakes. That's what this is about too. Totally.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Like everyone on our list. People are snakes. Oh, yeah. Yes. Yeah, for sure. Snakes. The snakes will be revealed and you i'm a damn snake operate in these that's me in the show you operate in sort of these covert spaces yeah under your alias claudia oh don't hurt me yeah uh because that's the last thing that they say before you do hurt them so much that you kill them make them terminal
Starting point is 00:30:15 yeah it's also a way that you feign weakness sometimes a like someone comes in and they like they point a gun at you or like they have a big blade and you go, oh, don't hurt me. And then all of a sudden, spin, move, roundhouse kick, right? Yeah, roundhouse kick and then bullet in the head. And then all of a sudden, they're like, let's just say not on the terminal list anymore. Yeah, because they didn't work their way off in the way that they might have hoped to. Yeah, but you can definitely work your way up just like if you do like some good deeds.
Starting point is 00:30:49 If you just like have, if you just relax. Yeah, if you even just don't do anything for a while. If you just chill out, like just like, just fucking relax. Relax. Leave me alone. Enough with the like. Just leave me alone for even one second.
Starting point is 00:31:05 Exactly. Then you can get off the list. Like, so if they went to a psychic and were like, am I going to get off the terminal list? They, the psychic might say yes, but they think they're going to work their way off.
Starting point is 00:31:17 But actually they're going to, they will, I will kill them. You know what I mean? Yes, absolutely. You're the psychic. Like they,
Starting point is 00:31:24 you like, they don't know that you were in a disguise of course you know a you know sort of a scarf over my head bell yeah but also like a business like a nice business suit because like oh yeah people have this idea about psychics that they all wear like flowing robes and stuff actually this is a job actually yeah exactly i am at work that is why i am in a suit when i'm meaning i do wear a scarf on my head with the suit but that's more because i have a convertible so i'm driving to the office yeah yeah you're going to a business is really good and i'm not going to mess up my hair so i do wear a scarf well that could impact the business exactly because that's like yeah image is everything in fortune telling how often do
Starting point is 00:32:14 they come in they see your hair and they're like oops i guess i have like oh i guess i had the wrong place whatever yeah they're like what this place looks way too professional sorry and they're double checking the address and you go and i take the hair take a seat this crystal ball isn't gonna read itself right but i do need them there from you know sort of to see because if they're not there i can't tell their fortune do you get that they have to be a certain distance away if they get too far away yes it doesn't you know auras radiate into the crystal ball i read that that's kind of how it works i don't usually break that down for people but that is how that works this is a really good info for the show it's sort of like life hacky but it's also a fun fact it's a very fun fact
Starting point is 00:33:03 and so but that is actually usually how i meet the people who end up on my terminal list because what they tell you and the predictions that you're making are always like very bad bad stuff that they're gonna do i'm like god that's what's going on with you i think i'm gonna have to sort you out yeah you'll go um yeah i'm getting some there's somebody with an m or a q in their name and they'll go well i'm i'm q from q anon yeah and i and i'm like and you're on the list you go all right tell me who to put on the terminal list oh yeah he tells me you go all right tell me i know you've got the inside yeah yeah i'm in pretty close contact with Q. I'll just leave it at that.
Starting point is 00:33:48 We talk a lot. On the phone? He's in Thailand, so we're mainly on Skype. Okay. But Skype is one of those platforms that you can tell someone's future through. As long as the ball can see it. Exactly. If I put the ball here,
Starting point is 00:34:12 I'm not going to bring it out for this episode of Pops. When she says here, she's holding her hands near the screen. Exactly. If I brought it out now,
Starting point is 00:34:28 it would just send the show in such a different direction. Oh, please don't. I don't want to do it. I'm not in a space to have my aura right now. You don't want to. No, I got screamed at this morning. Really? Absolutely screamed at this morning. Really?
Starting point is 00:34:45 Absolutely screamed at. Yeah. Okay. I was spraying the garbage cans. Not to get into it. I was spraying the garbage cans with a hose. Why? They stink.
Starting point is 00:35:00 So dirty. They stink so bad. They stink like shit. Right. But then all these neighbors start coming out they're going like what are you doing like you're making my garbage wet like that's not for you like why are you holding my hose and i'm just going like okay you need to relax like maybe go back to bed pal they're like you woke me up like it's 4 a.m spraying right outside my bedroom window and you're screaming are you spraying the outside
Starting point is 00:35:34 and the inside yeah i'm getting in there i'm opening up the bags i'm filling the bags up with water because i think i i think that's where the scent is yeahating. So I'm ripping open the bags, getting the hose in there. That's making noise. Also, there's a dog barking. I'm spraying the dog. Really? Yeah. It's become this whole thing where it's like, all right, I'm for free being the neighborhood cleanup crew.
Starting point is 00:36:02 Totally. I'm life hacking the whole neighborhood yeah because no one would say that like contain the smell and water water doesn't clean like water does clean it's one of the primary cleaning elements uh of the entire world but your unique approach is like you don't get rid of the water as you just like fill the fill the trash i'm trapping the water i'm trapping the trapping it and you're also making it into like a liquid and so it's being it's cleaning it all the time so many people just like put the water on something and then it just falls off but if it's in a place where it can be stable then it's being cleaned constantly also
Starting point is 00:36:43 the dog is loving it the dog is biting the water it's actually making me think time of his life like watching from afar yeah sort of supervising the process as i do it's making me think that this dog has actually been like very mistreated first of all the dog thinks he's gonna be thirsty water yeah he's so thirsty no they're not giving him water possibly food or water eat it yeah yeah he doesn't know how to handle either one people always think of dogs as hungry but they're more right oh yeah yes yeah they're really thirsty like they're gonna die of thirst before they die of hunger yeah so like that's pretty thirsty that's like you're gonna die
Starting point is 00:37:26 you're going to die from it i'm not that's like really thirsty that's there that's that's thirstier than some of kevin's instagram posts whoa so have you seen have you seen claudia i need to check them out i might you know i could ruin the audio of this and that is how you get so like i know you might check them out that look at them but you do check them out. I might, you know, I could ruin the audio of this show. And that is how you get, so like, I know you might check them out, that look at them, but you do check them out like at a library. Yeah. Yeah, you pull them off the shelf. What is the Library of Congress has them? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:56 As part of like an impending sort of legal action. Some kind of inquiry. And so is it every post? it every one of kevin's instagram posts or is it just the thirst no because he does some promotional stuff for the show that we ask him to tone that down and it's they're still thirsty they're they're thirsty for for likes and for views but they're not as thirsty as a dog so i went to check them out recently uh-huh and the librarian is like going to look them up and saying this is in dc yes i went to dc to check out kevin's instagram posts and the library's
Starting point is 00:38:31 house yeah librarians looking them up and saying okay let me see let me see here let me find these posts hmm interesting it looks like all of them were checked out by dr jill biden what yes dr jill biden checked out every single one of kevin's instagram post don't tell joe i i i cannot i don't have any access to him at all that is yeah well you could tweet at him or something he reads the tweets oh that's interesting that's an interesting idea someone told me i know someone someone who works quite closely with him, and he said he reads every single tweet. Okay. That is at him and just that comes out.
Starting point is 00:39:15 And all the other ones. Every single one that comes out. I love when a new one comes out. He is the president. So it's like, of course he's going to read them all. The American ones. Yeah. a new one comes out he is the president so it's like of course he's gonna read them all the american ones yeah hey hey you know i i hesitate to ask this but you think when uh the biden's have finished you know but you know with biden biden their time yeah when they finished biden their time
Starting point is 00:39:44 you think she ever says uh we did it joe wow i know she but someone else said that originally right but i guess she could no reason why she can't say it she could invoke that she could definitely invoke that right for in that moment i think that's fun that's cheeky it's that's i mean it's g it's cheeky man right i mean it's very cheeky man it's it's pure cheeky man's influence is still being felt obviously you can't do that now yeah but you also can't take away the impact that he had on yeah culture and you know she was always the cheeky man's biggest fan. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:27 She was. Don't pretend. Don't be shy about that. No, I was proud to have someone who had such an influence on me to feel like I also got through to them. That's a doctor, alright?
Starting point is 00:40:43 That's someone who's like, they're smart. She's smart. We gotta get into this list. We have to pull up. It's so long. No, we just get lost. It's so easy with you, Claudia, to just talk and talk. You know, you guys are
Starting point is 00:40:59 curious. You guys are cheeky. Yeah, it's like, I know we're gonna, when I'm on the show, I know we're going to get into it. Yeah, but let's pull up the terminal list. Kevin, do you have it? Okay, first name on the list. Robert Durst. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:41:17 Okay. Okay, we can cross that off. So that did end up taking care of itself. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Great. That. Yeah. Okay. Great. That's great.
Starting point is 00:41:28 Great. Okay. Off to a good start. Yeah. Taking care of itself. Do we? And I mean, I can just go. I know like number one for a long time has, of course, been El Chapo for crimes of breaking the law.
Starting point is 00:41:43 Oh, yeah. El Chapo must be terminated el chopped yes uh he is i believe still alive last time i sort of took a stab at this so to speak yeah it it was unsuccessful the seduction element is really not that stage. Yeah. Is where I think we need to do the most rethinking. Well, I don't know why you insist on doing the seduction. I look.
Starting point is 00:42:21 It's my turn. Yeah. Number one. That's true. And he is every time i do it he is looking at me for sure yeah and so i'm like okay if like this is like this is obviously the most important thing if he's not looking at all totally then i do think we need to start over and we go with somebody else. Then it's a wash. We get someone else. Yeah. Yes. But he is definitely looking. He is and he's sending troops after me.
Starting point is 00:42:52 Okay. And so it's like, okay, well, I'm like catching his attention in this way. For sure. And also, but it's so obvious. I mean, El Chapo don't protest too much, right? Exactly. With, like, sending the troops and everything.
Starting point is 00:43:10 Yeah, it's like, get away from me. It's pulling the girls' pigtails in class. Exactly. Exactly. And this is, for me, just kind of, like, walking by, not even, like, doing, like, this whole performative thing. Sort of walking by. I have normal clothes on. But you do have pigtails pigtails and uh sparkler shooting sparklers attached to like my pecs right
Starting point is 00:43:37 and and like i so you're shirtless no but I have holes cut in my shirt that the sparklers... Well, they've actually burned through. I did try to put my shirt on over the flaming sparkle things and they did create holes for themselves. If I could
Starting point is 00:44:00 get to one of my names just to move down the list just for a second, if that's okay. I think so. I'm okay with that. Um, so,
Starting point is 00:44:11 so Mr. Bean is still at large. I don't think there's any, um, any secret there. Uh, Mr. Bean is out there.
Starting point is 00:44:22 I have actually caught him red handed up to all kinds of antics. Uh, but when I have tried to capture him and exterminate him, uh, he gets into all kinds of crazy scenarios and kind of like hilarious physical, uh, contortions and and all this where uh i i've i've definitely seen him get hurt yeah but it's like he's like wiley coyote or something where he's like who also we should there was one time where he
Starting point is 00:45:01 put his head inside a raw turkey i I knew what you were going to say. I thought like he's dead. Salmonella. You can't breathe in there. And there's germs. Germs, suffocation. It's not good. And then he's
Starting point is 00:45:20 fine. He's fine afterwards. But then Jennifer Aniston does it. And I'm like he's fine. He's fine. But then Jennifer Anderson does it. And I'm like, he's having an impact that is really worrying. This is incredibly disturbing.
Starting point is 00:45:35 The people imitating this. I don't even think it was Jennifer Anderson. I think it was Courtney Cox. It was one of the two. But it's impossible to know because they have a turkey on yeah and this is causing incredible problems for society you can't tell who anyone is and mr bean's stan army is out there like all turkey head masks on yes and like a scream killer where it's like could be anybody under that it could be anyone
Starting point is 00:46:02 yeah exactly it's scary it scares me it's so scary be anybody under that it could be anyone yeah exactly it's scary it scares me it's so scary it goes face the scream killer exactly you know and by the way if you're if you have a turkey on your head you have a reason to have a big carving knife in your hand exactly and the police can't take it away from you the cops come up and they're just like on your way uh yeah they go they go excuse me why are you holding and then you turn around turn around from the front they see there's a turkey head they go oh so sorry to bother you sir man because from the back really a turkey's body does read as the back of a human head back of a head could be the back of a head of somebody who just yeah has you know cooked part of their
Starting point is 00:46:39 head or whatever totally exactly um but mr beans out there so i would say can we just all caps him on the list because that's the one i'm really the most worried about at this point i would move him off the list let's put him up the list uh if you're cool with putting him above el chapo for crime yeah sure we can put him above el Chapo. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. So looking down the list, JFK Jr. Oh. Well, good news on that front.
Starting point is 00:47:16 I guess. Man, this list, we really haven't looked at this in a while. Yeah. It's been a bit. We could have taken him off maybe. Sometime before the mid-90s. I don't even really remember what that... Well, I think it was because he was dating Cindy Crawford.
Starting point is 00:47:34 I think that was making me really pissed at this. Yeah, fair enough. She's gorgeous. She's so pretty. She's stunning. Stunning. Stunning. Stunning woman. Just... jess she's so pretty she's stunning stunning stunning stunning woman just i i don't think anybody's gonna be upset about me saying this stunning woman her appearance you know and i know like obviously the cheeky man would have probably used more crass terms uh but just me as a human
Starting point is 00:48:10 being yeah uh removed from any other you know a context around it or anything else just the image of that woman stunning looking really stunning yeah and her physique oh yeah healthy it's so healthy we're seeing health the picture of health I love
Starting point is 00:48:39 to look at that also with JFK Jr because I hate nepo babies oh i'm so sick of it nepo babies are really you know they're on you know they should be on their guard right now claudia have you heard about the latest one just exposed oh my god i don't think i have. The latest Nepo baby. And it's a shame because I was a fan of her music. Oh, no. Who? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:09 Lana Del Rey. Oh, God. Who were her parents? No, her mom is Marina. Marina Del Rey. That's right. That makes... I cannot believe I didn't realize that.
Starting point is 00:49:28 Well, well, well. The latest Nepo baby baby in the news doesn't this explain a lot oh i guess i know where you got all the money for your guitars exactly and like oh yeah you went on you went on snl and you couldn't sing and somehow the career kept going. I wonder how you got to SNL. Yeah. And meanwhile it's singing about video games. I wonder who can afford the newest PS5. I wonder who talks to David Letterman and says, should we get
Starting point is 00:49:59 her on to try to sort of smooth that over? The appearance on SNL. Should we get her on this show? According to IMDb, she's already been on a couple of times. She'd be amazing on this show. She was.
Starting point is 00:50:15 She was incredible. As much as the nepotism has been a huge factor in her career, she can do a podcast. I hate that. You gotta admit, some of them are unbelievably talented and that yeah i think it might actually be because of the genetics from like they're totally talented yeah that possibly yes there is a genetic element and also just like the um going up around that industry, the exposure to while it is an advantage,
Starting point is 00:50:46 it also does give you a familiarity. Because this is the thing no one tells you about show business. It's like really the most valuable thing you can be is relaxed. And if you're a Nepo baby, you will be because you're used to it. You're used to being around celebrities you're not panicking you're not scared of cameras the first time someone put a camera on me and i saw the red light go on i tried to shoot it yeah because i'm used to you know if i see a red light
Starting point is 00:51:21 i turn around i i go, where's Commander James Reese? You're like James Reese. I just made a terminal list. Yeah, terminal list situation. Commander of Task Force Odin's Sword. When Task Force Odin's Sword sees a red light. Yeah, you got to shoot it. You have to shoot it immediately.
Starting point is 00:51:39 For sure. I mean, I was just using a paper wasp. And what's that so sometimes you if you take a rubber band uh-huh do you have do you have rubbered bands where you're from oh we got him yeah for sure so if you have a rubber band you can almost do like a makeshift kind of slingshot just using your fingers across the top as the sort of why that you need and then if you get a piece of paper and you fold it just so you can pull it on the rubber band and and that's the paper wasp and that's paper wasp you get stung by the paper wasp. And that's the paper wasp. You get stung by the paper wasp.
Starting point is 00:52:27 Whoa. I'm so glad I've never encountered that before. Mm-hmm. Sounds awful. You and the cameraman both. So you... He goes, you missed. I go, I know, I'm scared.
Starting point is 00:52:39 But eventually you relaxed. I did relax. I did relax. And I just found my place Well, his parents became famous. My parents got really famous. And what did they get famous for? Smoking dupes. Smoking doobies.
Starting point is 00:52:53 Smoking weed. Yeah. Because I thought your parents invented Wi-Fi. But they didn't. No, they invented saying my Wi-Fi, like Borat says. Almost as big a contribution. Yeah. No, Wi-Fi was out there, but no one was doing a Borat-style joke about it.
Starting point is 00:53:14 And they were so fucking high. I mean, they're on the moon. So they're giggling. They're smoking. They're giggling. Yeah, they're laughing. It makes you feel like you can have a good time because you know they're doing it. out there but they're going like and i can't do the voice you know i didn't get that uh that's a generation that gene
Starting point is 00:53:32 my wi-fi that was really good that's nice my wi-fi that's nice that's nice oh yeah yeah does he say that's i guess yeah sort of yeah i guess he he says that's nice yeah well that was nice well it was better than i actually thought i've tried to do it before and I've actually thrown up so no that was really good just from getting my throat to that totally is there anyone else anybody else on the can I say this about the terminal list kind of a sausage fest so far it is
Starting point is 00:54:15 and it's open season on men I've been saying it for a long time we gotta kill these guys cross off Jafar for me because he's I'm cool with him why we made up what did he do to you uh you know you know it's one of these things where i thought i i thought i was gonna get the genie like i thought like well at some point i'm to get the genie. Like I thought like,
Starting point is 00:54:47 well, at some point I'm going to get this genie. Yeah. And then, and then he's going to be my enemy. And I'm like planning for success in this unrealistic way where it's like, I don't, I don't have a genie.
Starting point is 00:55:00 I don't have a lamp. And so he has no problem with me. And I'm like projecting into the future and uh you know sometimes I'll do that where I go like well I'm gonna get the lamp and I'm gonna have the genie and the genie's gonna sing a song about being my friend and then I'm gonna try to do a wish and then the car's gonna try to stop me from doing the wish and uh and then uh what my what my therapist will say is uh but cheeky man we're three or four hypotheticals in right now why don't we deal with what's right in front of us in this moment which is javar hasn't done anything to me no in fact he helped
Starting point is 00:55:38 me pull me out of the river with his staff he did well that's actually the thing i've heard is that like yes there's all these like bad stories about him going there but like actually as a guy he's lovely he's not yes he's not one dimensional you know he's scooping people up that are in danger with his staff all the time he's petting people with it yeah exactly and you know give you a reassuring kind of pat like stroke across your hair yeah but not hard not hard at all no there's been times where he's been doing it for five or six minutes before i noticed wow he has exquisite control that's so nice yeah and i'll go like and i'm kind of it's no coincidence that like so much
Starting point is 00:56:21 of that stuff that you're anticipating happening with Jafar takes place in a cave. Wow. Is there anyone else on the list? Sloane Sabbath. Who is that? That's Olivia Munn's character in the newsroom. Oh, wow. Oh, I get that.
Starting point is 00:56:41 You do? I don't remember. We wanted to... I don't know what I was pissed about. I believe you, but I don't remember. we wanted to we were gonna i don't know what i was pissed about i believe you but i don't we're talking about the character obviously she just i mean she was really kind of um she was really confident that character that can be a trigger for me yeah that could be a trigger yeah i don't i know that triggers me when someone's being really confident i'm like is this at me is this a comment on my lack of confidence somehow like are you making
Starting point is 00:57:15 fun of me and usually they are a lot of the time it has turned out that they are being confident just as as sort of a way to mock me. Yeah, exactly. Because they're paying so much attention to you. Because I'm shy. Because I'm shy. Because I am shy. You're cheeky and shy. That's why I do the show.
Starting point is 00:57:36 Exactly. Because then you know you're going to talk to people at 10 in the morning and then you do it and you've done it. you 10 a.m conversation i go i have talked to someone today yes and now i can get back in my shell yeah and that's good that's fine and isn't a shell a tiny cave thank you thanks claudia thanks welcome thank you thanks Claudia thanks welcome thank you for saying that but here's my question is the fact that the newsroom became terminal
Starting point is 00:58:16 is does that take her off the list on the. In a way, we did end up eliminating Sloan-Sabbath. Sloan-Sabbath. But there were casualties, huh? There were civilian casualties. One or two. Yeah. Will McAvoy. Will McAvoy.
Starting point is 00:58:34 He didn't deserve it. Mackenzie. McHale. Mackenzie McHale. Mackenzie McHale. Maggie Jordan. Wow. Yeah. It's hard to remember in a way yeah yeah osama was kind of was basically a character on that show for sure the guy went and told the pilot that he had been
Starting point is 00:58:58 that he had been killed you remember that yeah how could i forget that that was incredible you know and for a pilot like they're very pissed at him totally i mean yeah for them they're like mad he really disrespected their profession exactly he's high on their terminal list but he you know is high on america's terminal list yeah he was he was yeah cross him off as well okay osama anybody else ruby giuliani who's that i don't know i'm gonna need some is that a mistake i don't i don't know i don't either his door shard? This is why we do this. Because you've got to housekeep it. Look, honestly, a lot of times when we update this thing, we're a couple pints in.
Starting point is 00:59:58 Really? Pints of doobies. Whoa. Yes. Sometimes we got a couple pints of doobies in us and we go, let's pull out the terminal list. And we end up with stuff like Ruby Giuliani. Yeah. I don't know if that was supposed to be.
Starting point is 01:00:11 I don't know if it was supposed to say Rudy. I don't know if it was supposed to say Ruby Tuesday. Yeah. Where I did receive questionable service. Really? That's. Yeah. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:00:22 They wouldn't separate my milkshake into its individual elements in separate glasses for me i was like you have all the ingredients yeah like and i know you got extra cups back there because i've broken some before and you brought me a new one so like just put it in the just do milk ice cream and syrup in three different glasses. And then I'll mix it up myself with the spoon I brought from home. I don't see what's wrong with that. Killing It's on Peacock. Yeah. It's one of the, you know, it's a really exciting time to be on a streamer.
Starting point is 01:00:59 Because the world of streaming, it's so volatile. Yes. So it's very exciting it's thrilling you know to be like being inside a volcano danger yeah there is a and i've always been like yes okay great i love you know sort of like racking up these credits. That's really fun, but make it scary. Yeah, you're a thrill seeker. And so it's like, I want to be acting and like skydiving at the same time. Exactly. I want to feel not sure every day that this job continues.
Starting point is 01:01:36 Will this platform exist? Will this show exist? You know, things fold. Well, that shelf behind you is such a good reminder. All you got to do is look up at Batgirl. And she shelved up there. Yeah. But we had Johnny early on recently,
Starting point is 01:01:54 and I was telling him that I'm in touch with the person that handles the main menu for Peacock. It actually wasn't Maxwell. It's now Mavis. I don't know if you've met Mavis. I've heard of her, but I've never had the pleasure. Any requests in terms of categories,
Starting point is 01:02:10 we have, of course, unapologetic. Mavis, by the way. Sorry, Mavis, another Nepo baby. Is she? Mavis, rental cars, her dad.
Starting point is 01:02:19 Wow. And so, I'm not going to forget that. We have unapologetically themselves epic journeys that could be interesting i think the show certainly qualifies shrek and zathura are on there so yeah people really usually put those together those you know yeah endless episodes wow well you know fingers crossed we qualify you get an endless deal yeah right now we're not quite endless which is tough okay all right so maybe it doesn't go there uh but that's
Starting point is 01:02:54 one of the reasons i choose to watch things when i know it's endless getting to the altar yeah you get married anyone get married in the show and get married not yet but like no or is it like the um like an altar can be like a place of worship sacrifice worship they're getting killed maybe they're getting killed they make big sacrifices you know yeah in their personal lives constantly on that show so in a way that makes sense one sec kevin add claudia to the list butting heads anyone butt heads for sure butting heads absolutely let's do butting heads add claudia the list kevin this is 40 horrible bosses right along to 10 things i hate about you killing it rv i see it great yeah perfect great great butting heads for sure. Butting heads. Put Claudia above Mr. Bean. Excuse me. Sorry. Wait a second.
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