Hollywood Handbook - Donald Glover, Our Close Friend

Episode Date: October 21, 2013

Sean and Hayes discuss the well deserved buzz around Scarlett Johnson's performance in the Spike Jonze's "Her." Then, DONALD GLOVER of Mystery Boys, Communion, and The Do Do List stops by to make a really big announcement and give some tips on how to recover from a tanking improv scene.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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He just walked in. He's nuts. He's a maniac. Funny guy. Hey! Hi! What up, what up? What up? Welcome back to Hollywood Handbook, an insider's guide to kicking butt and dropping names in the red carpet lineback hallways of this industry we call showbiz.

We got a really exciting show today, I think. Really informative show. Donald Glover. He's here with a really big announcement. Huge announcement. You know him from Mystery Boys Communion. The to-do list. The to-do list.

This is not about any of that. No. I'll just say right now. Totally separate arena. Stay tuned if you like that stuff, but this is a new thing of that. No. I'll just say right now. Totally separate arena. Stay tuned if you like that stuff, but this is a new thing that he's doing that's pretty exciting. Awards season coming up. We should probably talk about it. The ballots are starting to show up in my mailbox.

Yeah, flooding my mailbox. Can we just get one ballot for all of them? Right. Wouldn't that make the ballot for all of them? Right. Wouldn't that make the most, one huge ballot? I talked to Rick about it. He said they'll never do it. And we've seen, at this point, pretty much all the award season movies. Yeah, everything worth seeing.

Yeah. And there's some, I think, deserved buzz circling a specific actress in the movie Her. This is a Spike Jonze-directed movie with Joaquin Phoenix, also Amy Adams, Rooney Mara, but it's none of them. We're not talking about them. You know those actors and actresses. You've seen all of them before. They're trash.

Yeah, I mean, you can wipe your keister with those ones. There's someone else in this movie. Her name is Scarlett Johnson. And she plays a disembodied robotic voice. Is that how you would describe it? Yeah, those are the exact words I'd use.

Disembodied robotic voice. That's her character. And so just imagine getting a script with that. Yeah. I'm just going to play a clip from the movie. So you see what we're, what we're talking about. What's it like to be alive in that room right now?

I wish I could put my arms around you. I wish I could touch you. How would you touch me? And I should know, um, um, Joaquin Phoenix is still munching on the hoagie from the master. You know, when he speaks, it's sort of an old acting trick. You take a big, huge fucking bite out of a hoagie right before you talk.

And it sort of gives you that nice sound that he gets where he goes. And he's got his hoagie that he uses for this. And it's the best hoagie, I think, in the business. It's like a Super Bowl party hoagie. Yeah, it's number one. And he just never runs out. And he won't use Crafty's hoagies, I've heard. No.

He has to bring his own because he's's like this is the hoagie my character would eat and that's how committed he is but he takes a big old gobble out of it and he goes but he's garbage we don't want to actually talk about him not about him uh scarlett johnson her voice in this movie we're listening to her voice sean and i are looking at each other and we give each other that look that says this girl girl should get an Oscar for this. Yeah. You know the look. We've given it to each other a few times before.

And then I'm reading a Marine Huff Poe news site. And there's an article that says Scarlett Johnson's's her role might make history at Oscars. Now, I don't know if the author of this article saw the look we gave each other. Were they in the screening? Because when they say, like, there's a lot of buzz circling this, I mean, I wonder if that's the look that they're referring to. I'm like, oh, I wonder who was buzzing. Well, Hayes and I are pretty much the only ones who've seen the movie. And then Scott Foundas from Variety wrote about the movie,

It's Johnson who pulls off the trickiest feat. She creates a complex full-bodied character without any body at all. Detached from her lethally curvaceous figure, the actress's breathy contralto is no less seductive, but it also alights with tenderness and wonder. I mean, that's

very stupid, but... Do you think it's stupid because you pronounce breathy breathy? That's how it's written. It's B-R-E-E-T-H-Y. Well, then I'm the stupid. How stupid is that? That is stupid. Her performance in this movie, up until this point,

I had sort of thought, in the pantheon of great movie performances, who's in there? Well, the times we've given each other that look before is Andy Serkis. As Gollum, yeah. Yep. Zoe Saldana as Avatar. Andy Serkis as the monkey in Planet of the Apes.

Yes, twice we've done it with him. Andy Serkis as Mighty Joe Young. Three times we've done it with Serkis. Saldana for Avatar. And I believe during the Herbie the Love Bug remake, we were like, whoever's doing Herbie, dust off your mantle, because you're going home with a little gentleman,

a short gentleman who's in pretty good shape. But this movie, Scarlett Johnson in this movie, she blows all those other guys. What was it you said after, as we were walking out, you said it really loud. Yeah. Yeah. As loud as I could. I turned and faced the whole crowd and I sort of tapped my glass. I was drinking champagne. I tapped my glass with a fork to get people's attention. And I said, Scarlett Johnson just took a big old fat fucking stinky shit all over Andy Serkis.

And that guy's done in this town. Because he used to be the guy who you liked his voice acting. And he detached himself from his lethally curvaceous figure in order to get oscars and she just fucking took a real hot steamy one on circus and his stuff and and now she's living the high life she's gonna be going home with a short to gentleman who uh he looks like he works out let's say that my problem with circus now i realize he's in those movies too much he's got you know when they make those he wears like the ping pong ball suit they're basing it on his physical movement capture his

motion which i think is like just remove that element and maybe you've got a good performance because with scarlett johnson they just have the one ping pong ball that's on her mouth to to capture her voice and acting with just your voice is kind of a new concept um we haven't really seen that before like that's you know the the first movies were just people's mouths, close-ups on mouths. Yeah. And using your face and mouth is such a trick in acting. It's a crutch. And it's such a cheat. It's a crutch.

It's a crutch, and I feel like so many actors use it. And I find myself now, especially during awards season when I'm evaluating these movies, watching the movie with my eyes closed or with my sleeping mask on. Partially because the movies are so scary if i open my eyes i'll just be way too scared but also because i think that's the best way to watch movies and and my trick that i do is i get a um compilation of garfield comics and i will just hold them up in front of my face and i will just flip through pages, and I'll stop a little longer if it's one with Odie or Nermal or one of my characters I really love. But I will sort of look at those. You're not a Garfield guy.

No. Garfield is a nasty cat. I do not want to get you too far down this road. He is a nasty cat. That is not nice, the way he talks to John and some of the other of my favorite characters. I'm sorry. Unacceptable. I will flip through those and sort of be looking at that while I'm watching the movie. And it's such a better film experience. And you really get a sense of the performances, most of which are trash and and

garbage and almost no one can act and only scarlett johnson can act so let's make it official let's make it official haze and i are officially casting our oscar ballot vote right now that's right so um you're welcome scarlett johnson and uh i we look forward to hearing more from you in the future we're gonna be right back on hollywood handbook so i thought in the song i thought they were saying i crashed my car into the bridge i don't care that's what i always heard but they're saying i love the tv show the bridge okay that's more relatable for me i get that too because i do love that show. Well, then I voted those Google cars. Here comes Hayes and Sean. Hollywood Handbook.

Hey. Hey. What up, what up? What up, what up? Welcome back to the Hollywood Handbook, an insider's guide to kicking butt and dropping names in the red carpet lineback hallways of this industry we call showbiz. We've got a very exciting guest today. You know him from the Mystery Boys, Communion, the Doo-Doo List. Donald Glover is here.

Hey, how's it going, guys? Donald really wanted to be on the show because more than just having Donald Glover here, we have a pretty heavy announcement, pretty exciting announcement. Yeah, I wasn't sure if you guys wanted me to do this at the beginning or at the end

or like should I guess now I yeah no I just I'd say let's get it all out there yeah sure um

I I just been I didn't know really the right forum or place to say this but I felt like this was a good place

since you know. It's where most people get their news. Most people get their news. I'm Childish Gambino. Whoa. So the rapper, Childish Gambino, has been performing under Trader Joe's bag. Yeah.

For, I guess, 10 years now. Yeah. And people have been speculating all over for a while people thought it was really kid rock and yeah some people thought it was river phoenix they thought that he never died he had just been doing it which i i thought that was like the most plausible if you're connected to the dots yeah that's what you were trying to hint at the whole time. But it was you. It was me. Why keep it a secret all this time? I was just afraid if I messed up that people would know it was me.

Like if I messed up on a word or something, people would be like, oh, I'll never see this guy again. That's pretty scary. It was a scary thing, so I just didn't. Well, there's so many words in some of those songs. Yeah, there's a lot of words in them, and the possibility of you messing up is really high,

especially when you do it like a bunch. It's safer under that bag. It's safer under the bag, like, because I have messed up a couple of times, and I know people have been like,

I want to know who that is who messed up. So it must be a big relief to just get it out there and get that weight off your chest. You're the real Childish Gambino. We can put all the rumors to rest. But at the same time, there's a freedom in not having people know that it's you. I mean, I know when I was doing my Banksy stuff.

Yeah, speak on that. When did you announce that? When did you? That was it. Was that it oh yeah and i've been doing banksy stuff for a while um so but when i was doing my banksy stuff especially when like exit gift shop came out i call it jift shop just because like that gif yeah that whole um yeah uh but anyway exit through the jift shop was out and uh people were talking about it and I was so scared

that are they not gonna like my drawings or do they not think it's funny that I'm bending the phone booth and that stuff and so I was scared

but also then when they really liked something and I've made a lot of shit that people really fucking like and think is really awesome I would go

oh well when someone's saying that they really like this banksy thing i'm like yeah no kidding you dope yeah i made it you're already a fan of that stuff that's exactly how i feel daft punk feels all the time yeah right just like sitting there being like yeah i made that yeah but like of course it's me. I'm awesome. I can speak of the same thing. When I was performing as the whole Jabberwockies, for me it was an issue of labels. I was worried that I would be labeled as a dancer

rather than as a writer-actor. Right, right. The media feels like they have to make this choice. They have to slap this label on you. Well, and Donald has a funny saying about that where he likes to go. And I don't know if you remember saying this. You go, labels are pretty useful in a grocery store. Not so useful when you're talking about artists.

Yeah. What do you mean by that? I don't remember saying that. Well, it had a big impact on me. Well, I don't think saying that. Well, it had a big impact on me. Well, I don't think I said that. I'm trying to think maybe there was someone else. You were quoting someone else? Oh, maybe.

You mean maybe it was Childish Gambino. No, no. I mean, I definitely didn't say that. I don't remember saying that at any point. Well, I'll tell you what I thought it meant. saying that at any point. Well, I'll tell you what I thought it meant. I thought it meant that some people look at the label on a food package in a grocery store and they sort of comparison shop and they look at the ingredients and it helps them

to be very specific. And so you don't get sick. I thought. Right. You might be allergic to something. Yeah, maybe. And that maybe you don't want to be so specific when you're looking at an artist. And I don't even love that word, artist.

What would you? That's another kind of label. Yeah. I've been having a lot of trouble with that, too, because I don't know. Like, you know, artist, no one wants to use that term. Everybody hates it. Too limited. But we have to.

But we have to because we haven't really, there's nothing better. I use it for the same reason I say table. You know what I'm talking about when I say table. You have a picture in your head, but you're not picturing the same table I am. Right. So then there's a disconnect. My business card currently says artist slash two question marks. Okay.

card currently says artist slash two question marks okay in my case i call people who are creating something putting something out into the world i call them human human beings okay right and i refuse to acknowledge like everyone else who's not doing that because they i feel like they aren't a part of this world in the same like ecosystem in the same way. They're not contributing anything. Yes. Right. Yes. Right. Let's talk about your, I guess your experiences in, in rap and, in, in, in hip hop. Uh, yeah, I mean. Yeah. Now that it's out there, is there any story you always wanted to tell?

I mean, there, there's no story you mean other than just like the wild ride that is rap music yes other than that like it's just you know just rap music just loving rap music and being a rapster I think that's the most fun thing I mean like I guess you know

it's just a bunch of lovely lovable characters that's in the rap world people don't know this but like 50 Cent is like one of the funniest lovely, lovable characters that's in the rap world. Yeah. People don't know this, but 50 Cent is one of the funniest, I guess, I'd call him a prankster. Wow. He's like Puck.

Really? Yeah. His character is fine. He seems sort of low energy, but you're telling me he's almost like a Dax Shepard. Almost a Dax. He's, and it's crazy because, who said that?

I think Snoop said that to me once. He was like, 50 Cent is the Dax Shepard of the rap world. And that was before I met 50. So you're thinking no way. I call him Kurt because his name's Curtis. Yeah. But I don't say that to him. I don't say it when he's not around.

Right. I call him Kurt. But he, I was told, he's like, oh, that guy's going to be the Dax Shepard of rap. Yeah. And I was like, there's no way. You know, there's no way. But he really did it. He really did it.

Yeah. You've had some experience with Fitty's Pranks? Yeah. You know, he comes to set because he likes the vibe. Yeah. He likes the vibes of a lot I mean, you know, he comes to set because he likes to vibe. Yeah. He likes the vibes of a lot of sets.

You know, he'll come to set. Just the action, like people communicating and working on it. He does. He misses it. Like when he was working at the vitamin water factory,

it was just very busy. And now that he sold it, you know, he's just rich and he just doesn't get to be around that energy anymore. Yeah, that's got to be a real crash. It's got to be a real crash. It's got to be a real crash.

One day you're in charge of all the shipping of the vitamin water factory, and then the next day just somebody else has their hands on your baby. Everybody's like, here's $500 million. Was it $500 or $500 million? I can't remember. It was an enough amount of money where he was like, you know, you guys, I don't need to do this anymore. but he still craves that kind of energy i think that's why he came up with street kings was to try and create that energy in a drink he goes to

value you know to come up with new ideas for energy drinks that you know affect you and the thing is because because he wants that energy around, he will do that. He will do that on set. I remember I was filming something with Olivia Wilde, and he came to set, and he kind of like pushed this intern,

and it was the funniest, like just, it was just so funny. And the patience to pull off a prank like that. Yeah, just to not break and just stay mean. And give a good shove. Yeah, just give a good shove. Wow.

And we still talk about it, and it's funny because he still hasn't apologized. He kept that joke going. He's keeping the bit. He's keeping the bit going. I talked to him the other day. I said, oh, how do you, is this bit still going? He went, yeah.

It's fun. It's just a fun time. It's like that Charles Grodin. Yeah. That level of commitment. Just not letting it go. That is so cool. That's what makes him him.

What a great window in. Now, speaking of... him him yeah what a great window in and now speaking of speaking of rapping and rapsters if i could talk frankly about some of your music now i'm a fan you know i'm a fan i i like the childish gambino stuff and the one criticism i have is some of your lyrics can get pretty scary yeah you know and so is that a power thing like a control thing where you're like okay i'm doing comedy over here i know i have the power to make them bus up laughing and then over here i'm doing maybe something that makes people really think and then you want to also have the power to in my case at least make people really hurt their ears

pulling their earbuds out because they get so scared by the lyrics. Right. You know, I've heard that a lot. You know, I've heard that a lot. That's been a concern for, like, I guess the past years. But I didn't have to worry about that because no one knew who I was because of the bag. Sure.

And it wasn't a problem. The thing was, I was very young. So, of course, I was thinking, who cares? Say a couple of dirty words. You can rap about monsters. Or anything, like monsters. Or like, oh, sometimes I download music for free. Or like, that kind of stuff where people like,

hey, this guy's not on the up and up. And was it also maybe that because your identity was secret, you were trying to disguise your voice and maybe sometimes your voice would get very low, almost like a Frankenstein. Almost, almost like a Frankenstein. And I'd make it spooky. I'd make it spooky. I'd make it spooky. But all my favorite stuff is spooky stuff. Name one thing that's good that's not a little spooky.

Right. Name one thing. Who? Ghost dad. Putting me on the spot. Okay. That's got elements. It's spooky, is it not?

Yeah. Name, I'm trying to think, just like the best things. Have you guys seen Kangaroo Jack? Yes. I actually had to leave because I was a little spooked out. You were a little spooked out? I was. But it's good.

Yeah. Yeah, that gave me the heebie-jeebies and I had to split. Dracula is actually a little bit scary. It's a little spooky. Yeah, that's a really excellent point. Bridesmaids. Yeah, that was great. That was great.

Did you see that? I haven't really seen a movie in a while, I have to be honest. Because you've been wearing the bag? I mean, I don't have to anymore. Did I wear the bag in here? I don't think I did. Did I wear the bag in here? I don't think I did. Wow.

Okay, so. I think Engineer Brett folded it up and put it under the table for you. Thanks, Brett. If you want it when you leave. I really appreciate that. Okay, cool. Yes. It's right under there.

If I can speak as a fan for a second, I always hate to do this because we're supposed to be having a professional conversation. It's absolutely fine. We're a host. as a fan for a second, I always hate to do this because we're supposed to be having a professional conversation. It's absolutely fine. We're supposed to keep a straight face. I just really want to know what Macklemore is like. Macklemore, and I'm gonna, I don't want to ruin him for you.

Okay. I don't want to ruin him for you. Okay. But. You can't, but I welcome you to try okay um macklemore isn't really a person he has two puppeteers yeah the two black men who sing his hooks. Wands. Yeah. They are, you know, we call them black-o-moors. They don't know that we do that.

Uh-huh. But, uh... A lot of behind-the-back nicknames. Yeah. I mean... I didn't know how common that was. It's super common in the rap community. Wow.

Yeah. But so they're operating some sort of highly advanced synthetic puppet character who is what we know as Macklemore. As Macklemore. And he makes great music, and we're all happy. We all enjoy it. Well, Ryan Lewis must be a person. Well, he's not. I mean, have you ever seen

Ryan Lewis speak? No, but I've heard his music. He's heard his music. That could have come from anyone. We all... It's all make-believe. But nobody wants to see how the hot dogs are made. No one wants to. People just want...

I mean, you enjoy... Hey, you like that RIPD trailer right yeah of course yeah because the music was so why are we upset right that's true

I should take it at face value and just enjoy the good parts of it and not think about some of the negative stuff I wouldn't even say it's negative I wouldn't

I feel like that I mean that's just where music's going that's just the industry man that trailer though though, huh? Teaser, I'm sorry. We're using industry jargon that people don't understand. Oh, yeah, teaser.

Yes, we try to use teasers because that's what people sort of know them as. For anyone just catching up, this is your first episode. Teaser is when they show little pieces of movies before the movies. So some people use this podcast to kind of learn more about oh about stuff the industry and sort of going where it's going and stuff yeah where is entertainment

headed everything's gonna be on a cloud eventually I think it's just gonna be subscription like if you want update your cloud if you want to see a Steven Spielberg film, you're going to have to just pay the subscription

for the Steven Spielberg cloud. Sure. I think that's where everything's going, honestly. And a little microchip in a cloud. It'll be in our heads, I'd say,

by the end of the year. Going to be watching stuff on our phones. Yeah. Phones, iPads, computers, viral, internet. These are all the future.

Would you like to watch Dogtown and Z-Boys tonight? That's what your phone is going to be saying. Yeah. Or my robot wife. I'll tell you, I'm looking forward to the next version of the iPhone. I hear this one you can make calls with. Now we don't. Can we do that? Can we do something like that, Brett, on this show?

Is that okay? Yeah. It's just a joke. We know you can use it for calls. In fact, I'm getting one. Who is that? Is it Jamie? It's Jamie

King. Do you have that bag? Is that bag underneath here? You want to put the bag on? I just want to make sure it's there. It's one of those things. Yeah, uh-huh. Yeah, Jamie. No, I'm recording a podcast.

Yeah, no, it's fine. They don't care. Uh-huh. And then what did he... Okay. But you were being exed? She's with Jamie Kennedy. And you were being exed?

Okay. That must have been embarrassing. All right. We'll talk about it later. Jamie says hi. To? Brett. Oh, okay. Do later. Jamie says hi. To? Brett. Oh, okay.

Do we want to do Engineer My Career? Since we have Brett here, there's a segment we really like to do. That the fans love on the show. That the fans love, where our engineer every week, they get to draw straws for who gets to do this show. And then they get to ask one question of us and our guests about how to help their career. They're all struggling artists. A one-on-one coaching session.

In Hollywood. They get one question and a quick hit answer for what the next step for them should be. Engineer Brett, do you have a question for us? I didn't know we only got one. If you have more than one, see if you can mash them together. Okay.

I guess I'm here recording a Hollywood handbook. Yeah. Like, if you asked me a couple years ago, would I be doing this? There's no way I would believe that. I'm just wondering what the next, what should I be, what's the next step for someone like me? Okay. I'm like a musician, but also, you know, engineer, producer.

I'm just, I can't see what the future is right now. Okay, I'm going to take the reins from you a little bit because you're kind of rambling. Yes. Take the reins from you a little bit because you're kind of rambling. Yes. The question for Engineer My Career is, I love recording Hollywood Handbook. I can't believe what a dream come true this is.

Am I even awake right now? And I would say, be thankful. Because they actually did a study recently on happiness and gratitude and feeling grateful is one of the number one things. Yes. There's this guy, this writer that I love, Malcolm Bagwell. I love him. He's very, very smart. Very intelligent. So smart. I don't get some of his stuff

because he's some kind of brain scientist. It's just those covers. Like, just an apple with an orange inside. Yes. Or like a hot dog. It's just like, where does your brain go? Yeah. You know?

He has a lot of interesting stuff to say. And the most important one, I think, is it's not about money. It's not about money it's not about money at the end of the day it's not how much money you have put your phone down yes go outside yes that was a really interesting thing to hear that i i don't think that message is out there enough it is it is that's just not it's not out the people, to kids. Reality television. Yes. It's just, ugh. Reality television and like.

Let's just remember, like. Remember? Remember? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're back where. We were back where. Before.

Yeah, before all. Fiber. Like Bieber. Yeah, Bieber. And video games and all this stuff. When people talked to each other. You know what I mean? When we would

actually have a conversation instead of texting absolutely should we take a quick dig into the popcorn gallery yeah let's jump into the popcorn gallery real quick okay yum uh the popcorn gallery is one of people's favorite segments uh and a lot of the general public in sort of the flyover states don't have access to industry heavyweights. So they will ask questions that they're curious about that no one in their life can answer. Okay. All right. And this is a question from Shoshobro, one of our listeners. You've done improv,

improvisational comedy in the past. This listener is trying to get into it themselves and they ask, when an improv bit is tanking, what are three things you can do to turn it around and blow some wind in the sails? Okay, I can't tell,

I can't tell you how many times I've heard this. Sure. But I guess two of them I know for sure. One of them I'm not sure. Okay. Some sort of baby. Yes. Some sort of baby.

It doesn't... A sick baby. A tired one. You can pretend to be it or just put it in the scene. A really mean like foul mouthed baby like a foul mouthed baby who's saying things

that a baby normally wouldn't say those are always Stewie I well I mean that's industry jargon again

you'd be like throw a Stewie in it okay but we any sort of baby number two make forcing something to be a catchphrase any sort of baby. Number two, forcing something to be a catchphrase.

Just anything. If you're tanking and no one's laughing, say something like it's a catchphrase until it is. Can we get just six or seven quick examples of what could be forced to be a catchphrase? Sure. Sucks to your backbone. You left them high and high.

That one's play off a high and dry, but you just say high again so people feel like you're saying something. Because comedy is about surprise. Yeah, comedy is about, you know. You took the D out of delightful. I, um, uh, 50 cents. One said this, um, shut up. I, those are just some of some like the ones that they're not the best, but they're definitely like ones that like, yeah, don't use those because those are Donald.

Yeah. Those are mine. They're not the best, but they're definitely, they, they don't use those because those are Donald's those are mine they're not the best but they're definitely they work for me yeah a lot of those ones are the way that you say them and so for these guys they might not be great and I guess the last one would be you know tell the truth

you know just be truth just be truth you know just like if if the audience sucks just tell them they suck and yeah i'm i assure you they'll start laughing yeah i've seen a number of shows where you talk to the audience and you say you're not getting this yeah i'm just like you guys are the reason this isn't funny right and. Because it's not you. No. It's never you. That's one thing I should always,

that people should know. You're performing. You're the performer. You're doing your job. I'm doing my job. Your job is to find what's funny in what I'm doing. That's great. I've even seen, not this podcast, but I've seen podcasts run into that

where people are going, this isn't funny. Right. And a lot of times I are going, this isn't funny. Right. And a lot of times I'm going, that's your fault. Yeah. You're either not listening right or it's just explicitly not for you. Your phone is messed up or whatever. Yeah.

It might be that your phone, which put it down, is messed up. I think that's a really nice note to go out on. Sure. Donald, thank you so much for joining us. We know you're really busy. Thanks for listening. Rate us on iTunes. Subscribe to the pro version.

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Do you have those there? I mean, here? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We've got a whole crate of them in the back. Oh, great. I'd love one. Well, subscribe to the Pro version and it's yours. I can't get it for free?

I was just on the podcast. Yeah, you were on the regular version of the podcast and not the Pro version. You may have heard it used to be that it would come with a were on the regular version of the podcast and not the pro version. You may have heard it. It used to be that it would come with a subscription to the pro version being on the podcast. We couldn't sustain that. It doesn't really work for the model.

But you just told me that you have a case of them in the back and I just did the podcast so I can't just have one in the case. Well then someone who subscribes to the pro version doesn't get one. You know what I mean? And then why don't they get that? Because they're thinking, oh, he got to be on the podcast, which I wanted, and he got my case.

Well, they wouldn't know. And then we have to put them on the podcast for them to get their thing. And you see how it doesn't work? It's like a vicious circle. I can break it down to where, I you wouldn't you wouldn't have to get he just wouldn't know he wouldn't be like oh donald took my thing he'd just be like oh i didn't get one well then it's not really a podcast anymore is it you know it now it's something else you know we're doing we're trying to do a podcast here right yeah we thought this was a podcast well you get it uh and real quick rate

us on itunes um oh and a lot of people let's actually clarify this we've just been saying rate us on itunes a lot of people have been taking that to mean uh rate us a one uh we we actually mean to rate us a five the highest rate and. And yes, people may think- We're really sorry for not clarifying that. This podcast is number one. I'll give it a one. And I think a lot of people have been under that impression. Yeah. Because I know it's been very good,

but I also know people have been clicking the one. Yes. So go ahead, jump over to the five. You're not saying we're number five. You're saying we're five out of five stars. That's a positive thing. So do that. Bye. Bye. saying we're five out of five stars. That's a positive thing. So do that.

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