Hollywood Handbook - Jason Concepcion, Our Close Friend
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This is a HeadGum Podcast. bears there sam b and uh lily uh lily's there um who else carson is in the house and we are
down on all fours drinking out of a giant dog bowl uh just slurping up just trying to get more
in touch with you know obviously letterman popularized these um you know stupid pet tricks or whatever tricks yeah and um he's been atoning
of late for some of his uh moments of being tone deaf times that he could have been more of an ally
and uh now that you know in the human realm obviously that's been pretty public but the way
that he has decided to make it up to the animals who he humiliated knowingly doing stupid stupid pet tricks and
calling it stupid when some of them were actually pretty smart yeah uh is that he has gotten us
together for this big charity video where we are going to drink out of a giant dog bowl on all
fours until the water is gone and even if there's stuff in the water like like hair and
stuff and a lot of like he has so much like a beard that is like oh my god really long stuff
was coming out of his beard that you couldn't even imagine and i like i think he's really funny but
dude yes what is can i ask what's the what's the uh inspiration inspo behind his
beard did you did you get that from him sure i guess it would help to start by just saying like
who you are yeah just not to like jump in and start talking when like we don't know just for
our audience i don't give a shit i i know who you are i i'm a fan of your shit man i like you
but i our our our listeners don't know what's and this is on and we'll get to like
there you have no reason to know what's expected of you on this show
because of how this was arranged,
because of things happening on our side
that we need to take care of.
So none of this is on you.
This should all have been explained to you
long before this moment.
Well, I'll be honest with you.
That's why I'm coming in hot.
Yeah.
I'm coming in a little bit hot because of that.
And I apologize.
And it would help just to say who you are, what, like.
Because it's very scary for our listeners.
It's very scary to hear this new voice coming in at a level that was insane.
It was psychotic.
The way that you started talking
and some of what you were saying.
Right.
And that, you know,
could be very upsetting.
So, you know,
I understand why you're mad,
but let's not take it out on them.
Well, first of all,
I want to apologize to them.
Even before you do that,
it would be great to say who you are and...
I have that sweater.
My name is... He does. He does have it. it he does i do i should i go get it i have it i would love that i would i would feel
like okay never mind i'll text great i uh my name is jason concepcion and i i jason yeah
yeah it's great to be here the ringer himself that's right you are the ringer
I am I am
Queens Boulevard
different
and then you said I don't want to be that anymore
you're going to be something else I'll say about the ringer
I like the movie I thought it was fine
I don't like it that much
it's okay
I thought it was
funny it's surprisingly touching it is yeah i don't know that
i would have built a media empire based on it it's a love story you're going in expecting this
like this raunchy comedy and it is that but at its core it's a love story but am i naming my entire like this like an entire franchise
after it no well that's i mean that's that's what you would think but but it tested really well
okay name the concept tested really well and to be honest with you what isn't a love story
so your story is not a love story okay pacific rim it's a love story is it not okay i
guess you're right yeah that one is that one is because it's i mean at its heart it's about how
much the kaiju love destruction not only that but then it's about two people who share the
responsibility of piloting these huge robots
that defend against the kaiju,
and they share their consciousness and their brains.
It's a marriage.
That's a marriage.
It's a relationship.
My wife and I are piloting a kaiju together.
Wow.
Sorry, is the kaiju...
I thought the kaiju was the monster,
and the mech was the the like now that's
interesting mech was the robot now that's interesting and like sean and i have been
having this debate for a really long time it's been endless we don't actually have time to even
get into it right now we have so much else to talk about today we do have to talk about the
kevin issue we do We have now signed Kevin.
Well, can we say, I mean,
the question on everyone's mind, can I just ask
it, Jason? Absolutely.
Are you going to keep going Bing mode on
Cooked Media?
I
don't know
that I'm
at this particular juncture, whether
I can reveal that that but i will say
um that the brand that i've established at at the ringer which is a media media empire based on a
love story and kind of like funky wacky love story that people didn't expect that brand will carry over
into the projects uh that i end up doing as i go forward into my life initiate bing mode i go
beast mode on bing mode and i was really hoping when i heard you're doing crooked media that we
will that we will get to continue that so that's just my hope. And I understand there's contractual stuff and whatever else. Yeah, you know that, of course.
No, I know a ton about it. It's funny. We didn't always know
everything. Hayes used to not know what a holding deal was. Wow.
But that's not what the show's about anymore.
It actually never was about that. For one episode. The show actually never
was about that. For one episode, it certainly was.
Kevin, let's talk about this.
We have signed a long-term business partnership with Kevin.
We have invested in Kevin as part of our future.
He has been very disciplined.
He's worked very hard for the time that we've known him apparently preparing for this moment all along so as soon as the deal
was signed uh he could absolutely vanish off the face of the earth, take his ass to freaking Tahiti,
and leave us just flopping on the sand.
We show up today for a record with Jason, by the way,
and Kevin is not there.
Unbelievable.
And what were you doing, Kevin?
Say who you were with.
I won't say who I'm with.
I was taking a shower. Say who you were with right now.
I wasn't taking a shower with someone. I was taking a shower. Say who you were with right now. I wasn't taking a shower with someone.
I had to cool off after two recordings.
I had two recordings this morning.
You were quite happy.
Go ahead, Jason.
You were quite happy to tell us about it before we hit record, but that's fine.
So I had some recordings.
I took a shower.
I'm in the conditioning phase.
And then I go, thank God
my next recording is not till 1.30.
Oh, right.
This was a contractual
sticking point for us that in order
for us to allow Kevin to
follow
us and leave and continue
producing the show, we had to agree that
he could bring up himself in the shower
multiple times per episode.
That was an image he wanted to create for our listeners.
And it was just not, there was no budging either.
We actually got a good deal of financial compensation back from him in agreeing to it.
But I still think we may have lost the battle to an extent because he's mentioned it at least three times now.
And not to bring that
up again kevin being in the shower but i will say oh go ahead whatever whatever process was cut short
right for you to come and and do the record i actually it's counterintuitive but i actually
do need you to finish it so you don't look like this again jason the famous cardigan is here i have the same
kevin are you getting this i'm getting it it looks so good kevin are you getting this yes
this shit jason and i have the same fucking cardigan look at this cardi boys cardi b oh wow Cardi B. Oh, wow. That's what Cardi B stands for, huh? Damn, dude. Epic. Yes.
Kevin, did cutting short your kind of like multi-phasal showering process, did that in some way cause this distracted kind of energy that you have right now?
Like, what was it that...
I do feel completely scatterbrained
because I am stinky from the waist down.
So I will be thinking about that
for the rest of the recording.
Okay.
And this we explicitly said you could not bring up.
This is where we drew the line.
That stinky from the waist down
could not become your new catchphrase.
That's getting cut, Kevin.
We talked about this.
There's no way that that's going to be,
that you can talk about yourself in the shower.
You can imply that you did not finish washing your lower half.
But stinky from the waist down,
that phrase in particular cannot be in every episode of the show.
It's troubling.
Not to dig at this,
but if you're saying
that you were in the conditioning phase,
that would mean that you
were in the cleansing phase prior to that.
Why would you be stinky from the
waist down? It doesn't track,
Kevin. It doesn't track
at all. I put one part of my
body in the shower at a time i isolate do you know how when you exercise you can like isolate
certain muscles i do that with my showering does jason know look at his fucking body i know dude's
ripped he's a cardi boy that's not what it means that's that's rift guys were rift guys are cardi boys out the
it's about the sweater the cardi's the sweater the body's underneath it can we also get into um
what was going on i assume something shower related when it comes to how jason was brought
on to this show jason do you want to share that experience sure so two days ago december 9th i get an email from kevin bartelt thank you
first of all really it's really easy to say like to think bartlett or some other name that's just
that's just kind of like the baseline annoyance that i went into this email with is learning his name
that's bull yeah his name is kind of bullshit it's totally it's we can get we can put a pin in that
let's come back to it please the email says hey jason i'm reaching out on behalf of sean and hayes
great start to see if you're interested and available to be a guest on Hollywood Handbook in the next few days.
If possible, if not, no problem.
We have more dates, too.
Here are some options.
Thursday, December 10th at 1 p.m.
Friday, December 10th at 1 p.m.
Monday, December 10th at 1 p.m.
Oh, my.
I think you're seeing the issue here now.
Please let it end.
I'm starting to get a sense of it.
I didn't say the year, though.
Exactly my point.
I spent 17 hours straight trying to figure out what year December 10th fell on a Friday and on a monday and how that would work and how that i
could possibly know when what my schedule would be where i would be in my life and now kevin saying
kevin saying we have we have more dates now that's a threat right now let's say i i've got plenty more to destroy your day with over this yes no i'm
commandeering your entire life to deal with my just perverted scheduling kink where i make you
look up different calendar years and all this other shit and try to do math when what he should be doing
is making everyone's life easier.
Please.
Normally I would,
but I was having to negotiate
not being able to say
stinky from the waist down
on the show going forward.
So I had to.
Kevin, did you see what I did?
I closed the shade next to me
so that I'm not getting all this glare.
That looks great.
So that you could get a better image
of the Cardi boys.
Was it really loud?
Yeah, sure.
It was loud as hell.
But it's Cardi time.
That's right.
And welcome to my birthday, Cardi.
So, I'm ready to move on from this.
I have a lot of other stuff
I want to talk about today.
Please.
Yes, of course. I have so lot of other stuff I want to talk about. Please. Yes, of course.
I have so much to get to.
And it's disgusting that we even spent this much time.
But this is Kevin's game, right?
He gets all the attention on to him.
Oh, sickening, sickening.
Jason, I have a T-shirt idea.
Tell me if you like this.
So the shirt would say,
it doesn't have to be a T-shirt actually.
It could be a sweatshirt.
It could be pretty cool.
Maybe it's a T-shirt though and we wear it under our our cardis together oh um and it says
and the shirt says this my love language is bread i like it's and what do you bread as in
like french bread is there a particular type of bread well
and this is this is because i don't have any idea for like a drawing on the shirt or even a
photograph but maybe it should be a type of bread like maybe a baguette as you mentioned would be
usually when usually when people pitch me it's a little bit more of a formed idea mmhmm
so
say a bread
just say a bread
there's a bun
it's a bun
I'm thinking bun
okay like a seeded bun
a whole wheat bun
if that's gonna make it read one of the really kind of dusty ones oh yeah like a seeded bun a whole wheat bun yeah if that's gonna make it really kind of dusty ones
oh yeah like i'd like a whatever that dust is no one is really sure what that is yeah that powdery
flowery thing not flowery like flowery like flowery like flowery really dusty bun on there
my love language is bread and some dusty buns
my love language is bread bread could be all caps fyi oh i like it i like that what kind of
font do you think like is there a font are you seeing a font here oh yeah no well i know you're
used to fully formed ideas so i've of course came up with a
font ahead of time it's it's uh um um looking around looking around is there a font anywhere
in here uh you know what could be block letters oh that, that's good. Yeah, I like that.
And we'd wear it under our cardies.
What would it, what does it mean to you?
I'll tell you what it means to me.
Thank you.
Bread, I'll tell you what it means to me.
Thank you.
Bread, when I think about bread, I think about life.
I think about the right that people have to nourish themselves from the sweat of their own brows.
I'm thinking about a production of grain that underpinned the development of human society.
I think this is like an incredibly deep and moving idea.
I wish we really had the bread kind of like illo nailed down harder the dusty
bun thing is interesting but i'm not sure how you do like you get the i'm not sure how you show the
dust but it's not dusty buns no i'm not married to dusty buns oh you thought i was serious no it's
um what did you just say illo i i couldn't understand what you were saying sorry illustration yeah yeah
no that's not the real illo
the illo is actually
probably more closer to what you're picturing
right
so like a french bread I'm thinking like a french bread
yeah which you said right away
which I agreed with as I recall
really long one and maybe it's kind of
sticking out of
your like waistband not for real uh-huh but you're picturing that you tuck in the shirt
and that yes yeah that it looks like a bad guy is sticking up like straight up
that it's like fake it's like not actually bread coming out of there but like no but it invokes a certain
amount of horniness for the bread right yes which is you know always going to um do good business
and maybe it's kind of like you know these things are can be like these things are huge they're so
long and so maybe it's like messing with the letters and stuff it's like knocking the letters. It's like knocking the letters over. Oh, it's like, yeah,
it's sticking through some of the letters.
Right. Let me just,
because there's no bad ideas in a brainstorm,
what if it was not that long, but really
wide?
Okay, that's getting
my head turning a little bit.
Alright, so it's like,
it's more of a loaf.
It's like a focaccia loaf.
That's like a big focaccia loaf.
Wow.
I love this.
Then it's almost a pillow
that all the letters are sleeping on, isn't it?
Ooh.
A big pillowy focaccia
that rises from your waist.
It's a fuba. It's a fat upper bread area isn't it wow that's good so if if this is resolved and it sounds to me like it is well we're all excited
about this version my love language is bread we do want to talk about actually initiating bing mode
right now and talking about how so this is the thing that like sean and i like
uh we have this issue where some of these like franchises like these big properties
right that everyone is talking about you know the ones like police academy
so great let's talk about this yeah yeah right things like this that everyone is like yeah
did you see porky porky did last week he's like unbelievable yeah uh we're like it is hard for us to simply take in these entertainments as fans
why being too close to individuals involved in making the project yeah potentially the
production itself yeah uh be the process of the story being put together and so it's always like oh yeah did
that that ended up like getting into like yeah we're too close we're too close to this it's so
true and you have developed to great financial reward huge the ability to talk about this stuff as just like i'm i'm a fan
i'm loving this i'm the ringer i'm crooked i'm like this is this is this to me is my shit yeah
i would love this jason if you would walk us through some of these big that's my shit right and just being
like that's my shit and being mr teacher today and saying here's who some of these guys and like
this is what is happening right and in this show if it's a show or if it's something else like
sure what's the current you're doing a series right now.
We're doing a series about Marvel, the Marvel movies,
which you may have heard of.
Yes.
Perfect.
Tony, Steve.
Tony.
Tony, Steve.
Wow.
Tony.
Natasha, these kind of like various people. I'm on a first name basis with them
as
they're characters but they mean a lot to my life
so I think of them that way
and this is
you're friends with them
this is basically the family
yeah
I think about them that way
because
the way the modern
world is now 2020 when you know we're so disconnected from each other who are we
connected with we're connected with these characters that we spend so much time with
like steve and and it's not just your family you know and it's not just your friend sorry to
interrupt it's not just your family right it's It's your teachers. It's your boss, right? It's who's ringing you up at the sporting goods store saying,
hang on, these socks aren't on sale.
And it's all these things, isn't it, to have these guys.
And you've said their names.
We don't have to go through all the names again.
But for someone who's totally uninitiated who isn't family friends
teacher boss you know and neighbor and and possibly um in some instances maybe getting
catfished by some of these some of these folks uh and my me in particular you know what what are they doing yeah i i think it's an interesting question in the sense that
what what aren't they doing uh tony i know you said you know we've heard the names but i just
can't stop saying them tony for instance loves to uh be inside uh a suit.
He's like a, what do they call this?
Like the gentleman, sort of.
So this is a franchise that,
if you could connect this to the recent movie,
The Gentleman,
they also love to be inside a suit.
And these are, but these are,
my understanding is these are different guys.
Right, they're completely different guys.
It's a different IP.
Any similarity to the gentleman franchise i think is is purely coincidental and it's not there are no coincidences
it's not it's not i i i understand what you're saying and i understand you're protecting my
friends there are certain stories inherent to humanity that are told again and again.
The Gentleman is one of these stories. So whether it's being told through your friend Tony,
whether it's being told through the gentleman himself, it is the same story. And it's somehow
it's at the core of our beings, right? It's just in the star stuff that we're made of somehow that we have to
kind of repeat these fables again and again the specifics change a bit but it's it's always there
you know it's like well listen if we want to get into like the deep storytelling of which i really
think you know uh guy ritchie has has the 12 levels of a story in which uh the gentleman leaves his is
leaves his world is called into a new world in which he's going to find like some other
adventurers find a new suit he puts on this suit and then he's changed forever and he finds himself
in a in a realm of loneliness because he can't go back to his previous world wearing this new suit.
He can't do that.
So he has to go further into this adventure.
There's the oi to action in all his movies.
There's the oi to action where
the character says,
oi, oi, mate.
Oi, mate.
There's the meeting with the bird.
Which after which,
everything changes, right?
So if you want to talk about that,
these kind of like archetypical stories, sure.
But I'm talking about like on a detail for detail level.
You know, legally speaking, they're not the same.
Although, yes, all human stories hew to this framework that Guy Ritchie has hammered out over the course of his career.
It's funny when you say that Tony wears suits because I don't,
that's not how I picture Tony. Like when I think of Tony,
it's not how I see him.
And maybe it's because I always think of him at his most vulnerable at the
beginning of season four, when Jack Bauer did have to call him,
when he said,
I'm calling the only person I can trust because he and Secretary Heller's daughter, Audrey Raines,
was with him and they were trying to get the footage
to see if she could recognize the face of one of the men
who had kidnapped her and all of their security was murdered.
And when Jack said he was calling the only person he could trust,
we didn't know who.
And then Tony Almeida did show up, you know, drunk, divorced,
an ex-con at this point, and a shell of his former self.
And he didn't have a suit on.
But I guess in a way, we're all wearing a suit all the time,
huh?
Sure.
I mean,
it's,
it's a suit of the mind.
It's a suit of the heart.
It's a,
it's a,
it's a suit of armor that you wear around.
It's a suit of clothes.
It might be.
It's not the,
the,
the stuff you were saying.
It's not,
it's,
well,
it could be that.
Could it not?
It's only clothes in this in
this case i think it well suit if you just say she's wearing clothes it's just not like clothes
you would call a suit he's wearing like a jacket and like a t-shirt wearing like a more of a suit
when you see her but tony's dressed more casually and this is the teacher this tony is the teacher tony is you were saying tony is the
teacher he's he teaches and he brings people together he brings this kind of like extended
family together and and teaches them how to live and how to how to dress and this is you talk about this like this is you can do a whole show about this we can do a
whole show about this we did uh we did a 12 episode season about the movie game night wow okay yes
and just all the themes and all the things that really go into that yeah what a genius
the guy's acting wild
you know what's real and what's not in game night right right so fucked up
i'm tripping out It's like an imaginarium. Whoa!
I'm tripping out on this.
Hey, thanks for bringing that up, Jason.
That's reminding me.
I was lost in that movie, man.
I mean, I didn't know what the fuck was going on.
That movie was so confusing to me it really i wonder if this is like kind of what the how you could do 12 episodes out of something like this is to kind of just initiate people remembering it
and then you just leave them space to react in their homes wow hold on can i can i use that's
a good idea i'm just gonna take a note on that really quick because
then i mean like everyone's happy you yeah you don't have to talk as much people the listeners
are like how you heard sean like even just being the mention of game night is here we go again these memories to just like flow in no it's so nuts
i mean they're you know obviously it's yeah scary but it's also uh it's also having fun. And so what's an episode?
You did a Marvel one.
Sure, yeah.
What was the last one that came out?
What do you do?
What happened?
We did Ant-Man is the one that came out today as we record this.
And that stars Clueless's Paul Rudd as a man who turns into the size of an ant does he not age
does he just not age paul rudd he's looking young he looks great did you talk am i stepping on the
show is this what the show is i just i you know i just it's he's he is actually really sensitive
about it about the fact that he doesn't age.
It's like an Andy Milonakis thing.
He hit 50 and then stopped.
And then that's what it is now.
He just looks like that now, and he'll look like that when he's 85.
And he looked like that when he was a little kid, too.
Right.
So in terms of his interior interior self it just doesn't match
who he is yeah right and you're friends with him i i wouldn't say friends but i but you know
in the course of my research i think we we've you know we've traded emails and ant-man has so like talk about i mean let's talk about it the thorax right let's get into it
they call the thorax the powerhouse of the ant i don't disagree but the abdomen's got something
to say about it it's just segmented abdomen uh chitinous shell, kind of like the multi-part eye.
These are all parts of the ant.
We dedicate one episode each to different parts of the ant.
The parts, yeah.
And the pheromones, right?
I mean, you know, this is how they're communicating, right?
They're not saying, hey, go over here.
I found a piece of food.
They're saying, hey, smell this.
They're not saying, hey, go over here.
I found a piece of food.
They're saying, hey, smell this.
They're like, this smells like a stinky lower abdomen.
I'm going to follow this.
No, don't.
No, no, no.
Who can relate?
Kevin.
I'm not touching it.
I'm not touching it.
Be very careful.
Be very careful in how you proceed, Kevin. kevin wow served up on a platter but no they stink for each other they stink too that's right they stink at one another and they
say hey come over here or go over there or let's do this and or i'm dead they say you know right
and they're not ashamed of it not like us in terms of the way we smell, where we're always so...
You've never seen him taking a shower.
Ever.
Or having various multi-step processes to both scrub our sense and then replace our sense with other scents.
They don't do that.
They just smell the way they smell, and they're proud of it.
That's who they are.
So Ant-Man, you never see him take a shower.
Not in the small form, because he would wash away.
You see him shower a lot in his larger form, sounds like you're saying.
It happens mostly off screen, and I think you're just meant to kind of assume that it happens.
He just says that he took a shower.
Jason, did you see the message I sent you
let me look at it now
did you send
where did you send it to me
oh my god I'm not recording
I'm not recording
and see now this is another thing
I was recording but my
thing died
my thing died on me. It came unplugged.
And that was my chat. It said, do you think Sean's recording?
I am
not and I don't know when it
stopped. I've done this
so many times
Sean.
We have it Sean. We have it.
We have your voice. It'll sound like
shit.
It's going to sound like shit.
But I was recording for a time.
20 minutes at least. That's great, dude.
That's awesome.
That's like, come on.
You were recording for part of the show?
That rocks. Well, that's what I'm saying.
That's huge.
We were so quick to focus on
the negative that I stopped recording
for a big part of the show and not to even negative that I stopped recording for a big part of the show
and not to even address that I was recording for another part.
Let's absolutely not focus on the fact that you were not recording for an indeterminate part of time.
Remember when I got the cardigan that matched?
That was wonderful.
That may or may not have made it.
That was probably when it got unplugged because there was a yeah that may or may not have made it that was probably when it
got unplugged because there was a lot because i was moving it around so much yeah yeah yeah
kind of swinging it and uh and like a very showy way the cats are going nuts too have you seen
some of what these cats are doing yeah they're going fucking psycho could have been the cats and kevin you were sending the
guest a message which is of course totally unacceptable first time you've ever rules
you've ever done that i'm trying to connect make them feel like aren't isn't this are you talking
about his other show well while we're there yeah do you need a guest or because i got two right here
i mean we're all recording now too well we were wow could you use any of our first 20 minutes
what did the message what you wanted to use the first 20 minutes of this show on his podcast yeah dude cross uh crossover and they do that in
in uh the marvel movies right the crossover they do do that that is that is a good point
well then i guess you kind of have to i mean you like the movies so actually you're sort of like
wow that is a great point i was i was actually dead set against it until you brought that up.
That's a great point.
Let me ask you this.
Kevin using logic and facts
to dismantle his opponent.
Wow.
I feel snowflaked.
I've melted.
How long is your contract with Kevin for?
How long do you have...
Am I allowed to ask that?
Yeah,
but we're not with only Kevin knows.
Oh wow.
It's a one way,
one of those one way blind contracts.
It's in the message I sent you.
He just comes up and goes like,
Hey,
I'm renewed.
What does the message say?
You've said it's all these different things.
What does it say?
So do you think Sean's recording?
No,
it didn't say that. What's it really say for real? And by recording no it didn't say that what's it really
say for real and by the way when kevin says that he's renewed to us he really hits nude and it
makes me uncomfortable yeah um what's it say jason i can't find it i heard it i heard a sound but i
don't know where where did you come and this to me? It sounded like a slack
message. It did sound like a slack.
But why
would it be there? Hold on.
I don't have a slack message for you.
Can you just read it? Kevin,
can you just read it?
Just read it. Okay.
It's a photo of
a kid with funny
sunglasses and it says sup ma
don't send that to anyone please send that to jason during the show not during the show
after the show send it to him as many times as you want that's right okay this it's just kind
of like unprofessional and also like it is a little bit is that fair use also does are you
just allowed to like clip somebody else's some child's ip and then send it over the internet to
like during a broadcast like you're opening up the litigation that you're opening the gentleman up to is i might get sued into the fucking stone age with this thank you for
referring me as the gentleman i do see myself as guy richie's the gentleman
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hollywood handbook who's the other so there's uh ant-man yeah he doesn't take a shower sometimes sometimes he does
you don't see it but he talks about it that's right or you just like he walks into the scene
or you hear a shower during the transition he's singing the shower i would assume that he does
sing in the shower that's kind of like part of the deep process that Paul Rudd goes through where he's like,
he creates this entire realm, this entire character within the performance.
So that's one of the things that I do get from it, even though that's not on the page
and it's not in the scenes.
I just feel like he's a very, he's a very celebratory individual.
He really loves life and he's going to be singing in the shower when he, when that hot
water hits his chest there's i i haven't i haven't seen the film per se as hayes mentioned we're so
close to it but i have seen some of the outtakes and deleted scenes there's a really funny one
where it's just paul rudd and michael douglas saying you know how i know your ant-man and then they will each sort
of give you know provide evidence of how they're certain that the other man is ant-man which i
believe they both maybe are yeah yeah that was that was pure improv That was improv. That was pure improv.
No.
This was when Edgar Wright was kind of like just exiting the project.
And he was like, you know what, guys?
Let's just like, you know what?
They're firing me or I'm moving on or whatever the case may be.
Let's just try some stuff.
I got what I needed.
Let's just try some stuff.
And they just went for it they just
went wow all the way and am i right also like you know just like you hear about this stuff and again
i like i haven't seen the film either but also the the shrinking was improv the shrinking was
right well it's it's a lot of that has a lot of that is just kind of Paul, his own ability to concentrate and create the illusion that there is shrinking.
Some of it is just...
And so what he's really doing is running really fast away from the camera.
Well, no, he kind of like punches his shoulders and like caves in and kind of like stoops a little bit.
Oh, he's squinching.
He's squinching.
He's squinching himself.
That's right.
That's so interesting.
No, now that I think about it.
So to us, it looks like, and part of it is you're in a theater and you're suspending your disbelief.
And so it looks like he's becoming this tiny bug.
But really, he is actually just, it it's a practical effect which is he just is
not squinching just there's a little bit of in-camera stuff with like a with like a
with a pull out and a focus yeah some kind of like but but a lot of it is just the way he can just
kind of contort his body so that it looks legitimately absolutely minuscule. So, so
small.
Unlike a lot of actors, he's not
such a tall guy either
that it's going to be
distracting on camera.
He's starting from, he's not a short guy,
but he's starting from a place where
this guy can really squinch
and he can squinch himself up.
The cat next to me is going insane. He's excited by this. I've never seen this guy can really squinch and he can squinch himself up and the cat next to me is going
insane. He's excited by this. I've never seen
this guy do this.
I think the cats are mad because we're not talking
Garfield. Hey
man.
Come on.
A lot of shit is funny to me. That's not
fucking funny man.
That's not cool. That's not funny.
Kevin's like big. That's not funny.
Kevin's like baked.
Are you wasted, man?
Hey, it's 420 somewhere.
No, it's not.
No, it's not, dude.
Are you blazed?
Come on, man.
It's not 420 anywhere.
Where are you guys?
Like, be honest. Well, maybe the cat cat is saying this is effectively what the guy does
other guy huge and like he goes crazy and he says you don't and i you will not like going crazy when i do it yeah you remember no yes this is not the same guy that's not what
ant-man is saying yes but one of his buddies goes hey hey i know we all sometimes act a little bit
crazy when i'm acting crazy you're gonna be it's to be. It's not the best.
That's basically what the cat said as well.
So like, hey, man.
Hey, I hear you, buddy.
And that's a practical effect as well.
That's in camera also.
So much is happening inside this camera i'd love to
get a look at the camera itself because it seems like it's got a lot of pieces that are doing stuff
that to me at least from when you know when i've been in the theater even just to see some of the
previews he looks so squinched the guy looks so scary to me who's saying that he's gonna go crazy and what is
happening royal you are sitting in the window yelling you are running across the room as fast
as you can you are jumping onto every surface nothing has changed these you're behind me now
nothing has changed or happened at all in this room to make you do this is sabotage, plain and simple.
And I think you're jealous of being mode with Jason.
I appreciate that.
And I think you think that maybe you should have been involved with cooking media.
And it's honestly disgusting to see this jealousy come out this way.
And I've always taught in my household that a rising tide lifts all butts well you know what they what they say about jealousy
i don't right because i don't ever think about it because i don't feel it
what do they say uh that it makes uh it makes an ass out of you and me. Oh, wow. So just don't participate in it at all.
Uh-oh.
Royal Nugget, I want to hear that.
Yeah.
And maybe that guy is jealous,
and that's why this guy looks like this.
He's like he hung.
Ah, hung.
Hung. he um hung uh hung hung he you know he he says you wouldn't like it when i when i'm going crazy that's
that's you will not like and i mean maybe he's so jealous that that's why he looks like this guy. He looks like this.
I mean, it could be.
I was wondering, are you talking about the show hung?
So, I understand that the show version,
if I could actually just step in and help you out a little bit here,
the show version on Disney Plus is going to be she hung.
Right. in and help you out a little bit here the show version on disney plus is going to be she hung right but then the movie version is the that is just hung right the hung the incredible hung
right the incredible hung the hung the incredible hung has changed over the years well because like the rock and yeah the hung
sometimes he's the hung but then other times like he's also himself and halfway the hung
other times it's like he changes colors with it like a kid like he started as hung as the hung
it was originally yeah it was originally uh green and couldn't control the hung.
And then as the story goes on, he sits with it and he processes it
and he's able to take more control of the hung and be like half hung.
He could sit on it even.
I mean, I'm just saying like this guy like,
no, feel free to keep talking about it no it's because
it feels like you're almost stopping yourself haze right because this is supposed to be jason's
area of expertise and he didn't he initially thought you meant the tv show which is fine
you're keeping so much information in your head but obviously you were talking about the whole
series of movies all the movies i think have somewhere have Hung's name in them.
Well, Hung is in all of them.
Hung is in Endgame.
He's in Infinity War, although he can't turn into Hung in that one.
He's got some sort of mental block and he's unable to...
Trapped, stuck, yeah.
Right, he's unable to kind of get it going. Get it, get it. Yeah. Right. He's unable to kind of get it going.
Get it,
get it.
Yeah.
I can't get it.
I can't get it.
He needed,
he needed something else,
needed some help.
And that kind of embarrassed him.
He couldn't hang out.
Yeah.
Not able to hang out.
Yeah.
He was like this.
I can't do it for some reason.
Can somebody help me?
And then it was like,
that's,
you know,
I don't know.
Like, can't you just go off and do it on your own but then to like kind of close the loop the full like arc of
the character bending towards justice he does become hung in the final film and he's kind of
like integral into the grand victory and he says like you don't want to know my secret right i'm always this i could always do
it the whole time yeah right it's like okay why did you say that though yeah why didn't you do it
yeah there's yeah well that's that scene is very interesting because previously to that tony had
said we need hung you know what we need right now is hung and hung uh
he wasn't in hung form at that time bruce he kind of like rode up on a motorcycle and he was like oh
wow look at this what's what's happening with these the big snakes in the sky and all the stuff
yeah um the technical term and then yeah no i didn't know what you're talking about
yeah i didn't mean to get i don't know what the fuck you're talking about no it's good
listen if you let bing mode engage it's on episode 47 of i go beast mode on bing mode dude
and just absolutely flip that switch and go beast does he remember what he was doing when he was uh when he was when he's hung and when
he's normal guy does he remember kind of like through a haze through a through a fog hey that's
your name yeah that's my name don't worry about please sorry but like yeah kind of like through a through a foggy gauze of of the excitement of being hung
like once the hungness kind of like wears off he gets like really drowsy and all of a sudden his
like pants are torn and he spends a lot of the time like at least the early minutes of the
transformation back into himself being like what can somebody just get me like a pair
of pants and a shirt because like it's yeah i'm out here um but then later on he does think about
all the stuff that he did when he was hung and can he have really good sex when he's doing that
which part which at any point well i mean i guess that's really in the eye of the beholder
isn't it like are you gonna
you do it with your eye
you do gotta behold it
can you behold this for me
wait a second
why do you have 3D glasses on
what is that I found the filters part on zoom
so whenever you say something you can like throw on uh give me the what the heck god give me that
he's got a pirate hat on give me that man people are gonna love paying for these zoom oh my god
and now people can see that on video oh Oh geez. Wow. Give me that.
All the filters.
Give me that.
Give me that.
Okay.
Geez Louise.
Part of the deal.
So let me get this straight.
You're just able to like access different filters and the talent on the show.
It is their show.
It's their creative enterprise.
It's their expert mode of expression you you have hidden
this ability from them oh wait hayes has it now clements has it now never mind i don't have
anything yeah how do you are you gonna explain it to us you gotta go to zoom.us in the top left
corner and then hit preferences and then hit backgrounds and filters and change your damn
life. Nothing weird over here.
This is just how I look.
Sean right now has
reindeer horns
and the kind of
black shiny nose.
So not Rudolph. One of the
reindeers that bullied Rudolph
was so mean to him. And then ears
kind of like the reindeer ears
and it says that my processor
is not recommended
for doing this but
I'm going to do it anyway okay
sounds like you're a broke bitch
hey Jason maybe we should have
a baguette on there
and he has a French hat
my love language is bread shirt i'm a wow this is
great hat on so this is cool so this is actually good this is great yeah this is like one of the
best oh look at that deal with it so now you have the deal with it the pixelated deal with it
sunglasses now you both have them on and tell crooked media because
i've seen joe biden has this he does have that yeah now i will say like i should probably he
has the real ones have listened to the the warning because this is hurting me to have these on
yeah and you look really i'm not like upset that i did i did like learn something
from this but like it is it is it really really hurts but you look unwell yeah the longer you've
had it the more um messed up you're starting to look and it's scaring but luckily i do have an
easy reaction to my computer when my computer says hey don't do this well that's a broken bond
of trust now you can't how can you even believe the warnings that your computer gives you at this
yeah and now i'm basically obligated to just say deal with it because i do have these
sunglasses on and that has to be my reaction to everything now this is kind of like a um
what would you say this is this is like a rainbow like a roy g biv
kind of feel yeah yeah that's a bunny rabbit uh-huh oh look at this i'm being safe got a mask on
well this this rocks this rocks this is unbelievable and this honestly like in
god i mean i hate for you to find out this way jason but this is like you're now you're going
to like start and you're like doing shows about movies and stuff but this is basically the end
of movies right here yeah and we're watching it happen in real time just because this is the way
that i process and this is the way that
i like create i'm just gonna like run through what this show has been what it's been like for me
we've recorded a show um the got into a fight with the producer there is maybe 20 to 30 minutes
20 to 30 minutes of audio missing and then we did a whole section that's purely visual we described it in a very
rich detail i think it's this is the next level this is whatever it is yeah and this is like now
instead of movies and i guess you can still enter bing mo but it's gonna have to be like about me trying like these different sunglasses on it's good right
going to be like you know it's going to require a lot of pivoting to like to get into this space
but you're champions adjust when you talk about movies man when you talk about the hung movies
or whatever that's a visual thing you're discussing that that honestly oh wow
blacklist has gone full blacklist now i'm a criminal so hayes has gone blacklist and he's
and he is the spader character from that so red reddington so i had a completely different
i thought that hayes was going to steal hamburgers from Mayor McCheese,
but I guess that's completely wrong.
Well, that would be stripes,
and he would have a big old hamburger on the band of his hat.
So I don't mean to call your ass out.
I'm sorry.
No, that's okay.
I deserve to be checked.
No, it's just when we allow
ignorance
to just sort of
thrive unchecked,
we really are doing a disservice
to all of society.
I am the honey bear.
I am coming for the honey
because it's yummy to me, the bear.
Yeah.
And we're probably running pretty late.
That's fine.
So, like, you know, and I recorded at least part of this,
which I do think should be a bigger part of the conversation.
It's great.
It's huge.
It's really great.
That's so cool.
Thank you.
It's so good. it's so good and i'm apologize on behalf of my cat who now has
calmed down now that we're done don't do it don't apologize for the cat what was happening for him
he was jealous huh he was going in a total hung mode bye bye Hollywood Hamburg