Hollywood Handbook - Jason Concepcion, Our Close Friend

Episode Date: December 15, 2020

JASON CONCEPCION teaches The Boys about all these movie franchises. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-...info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a HeadGum Podcast. bears there sam b and uh lily uh lily's there um who else carson is in the house and we are down on all fours drinking out of a giant dog bowl uh just slurping up just trying to get more in touch with you know obviously letterman popularized these um you know stupid pet tricks or whatever tricks yeah and um he's been atoning of late for some of his uh moments of being tone deaf times that he could have been more of an ally and uh now that you know in the human realm obviously that's been pretty public but the way that he has decided to make it up to the animals who he humiliated knowingly doing stupid stupid pet tricks and calling it stupid when some of them were actually pretty smart yeah uh is that he has gotten us together for this big charity video where we are going to drink out of a giant dog bowl on all
Starting point is 00:01:20 fours until the water is gone and even if there's stuff in the water like like hair and stuff and a lot of like he has so much like a beard that is like oh my god really long stuff was coming out of his beard that you couldn't even imagine and i like i think he's really funny but dude yes what is can i ask what's the what's the uh inspiration inspo behind his beard did you did you get that from him sure i guess it would help to start by just saying like who you are yeah just not to like jump in and start talking when like we don't know just for our audience i don't give a shit i i know who you are i i'm a fan of your shit man i like you but i our our our listeners don't know what's and this is on and we'll get to like
Starting point is 00:02:03 there you have no reason to know what's expected of you on this show because of how this was arranged, because of things happening on our side that we need to take care of. So none of this is on you. This should all have been explained to you long before this moment. Well, I'll be honest with you.
Starting point is 00:02:26 That's why I'm coming in hot. Yeah. I'm coming in a little bit hot because of that. And I apologize. And it would help just to say who you are, what, like. Because it's very scary for our listeners. It's very scary to hear this new voice coming in at a level that was insane. It was psychotic.
Starting point is 00:02:43 The way that you started talking and some of what you were saying. Right. And that, you know, could be very upsetting. So, you know, I understand why you're mad, but let's not take it out on them.
Starting point is 00:02:56 Well, first of all, I want to apologize to them. Even before you do that, it would be great to say who you are and... I have that sweater. My name is... He does. He does have it. it he does i do i should i go get it i have it i would love that i would i would feel like okay never mind i'll text great i uh my name is jason concepcion and i i jason yeah yeah it's great to be here the ringer himself that's right you are the ringer
Starting point is 00:03:27 I am I am Queens Boulevard different and then you said I don't want to be that anymore you're going to be something else I'll say about the ringer I like the movie I thought it was fine I don't like it that much it's okay
Starting point is 00:03:42 I thought it was funny it's surprisingly touching it is yeah i don't know that i would have built a media empire based on it it's a love story you're going in expecting this like this raunchy comedy and it is that but at its core it's a love story but am i naming my entire like this like an entire franchise after it no well that's i mean that's that's what you would think but but it tested really well okay name the concept tested really well and to be honest with you what isn't a love story so your story is not a love story okay pacific rim it's a love story is it not okay i guess you're right yeah that one is that one is because it's i mean at its heart it's about how
Starting point is 00:04:33 much the kaiju love destruction not only that but then it's about two people who share the responsibility of piloting these huge robots that defend against the kaiju, and they share their consciousness and their brains. It's a marriage. That's a marriage. It's a relationship. My wife and I are piloting a kaiju together.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Wow. Sorry, is the kaiju... I thought the kaiju was the monster, and the mech was the the like now that's interesting mech was the robot now that's interesting and like sean and i have been having this debate for a really long time it's been endless we don't actually have time to even get into it right now we have so much else to talk about today we do have to talk about the kevin issue we do We have now signed Kevin.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Well, can we say, I mean, the question on everyone's mind, can I just ask it, Jason? Absolutely. Are you going to keep going Bing mode on Cooked Media? I don't know that I'm
Starting point is 00:05:40 at this particular juncture, whether I can reveal that that but i will say um that the brand that i've established at at the ringer which is a media media empire based on a love story and kind of like funky wacky love story that people didn't expect that brand will carry over into the projects uh that i end up doing as i go forward into my life initiate bing mode i go beast mode on bing mode and i was really hoping when i heard you're doing crooked media that we will that we will get to continue that so that's just my hope. And I understand there's contractual stuff and whatever else. Yeah, you know that, of course. No, I know a ton about it. It's funny. We didn't always know
Starting point is 00:06:31 everything. Hayes used to not know what a holding deal was. Wow. But that's not what the show's about anymore. It actually never was about that. For one episode. The show actually never was about that. For one episode, it certainly was. Kevin, let's talk about this. We have signed a long-term business partnership with Kevin. We have invested in Kevin as part of our future. He has been very disciplined.
Starting point is 00:07:08 He's worked very hard for the time that we've known him apparently preparing for this moment all along so as soon as the deal was signed uh he could absolutely vanish off the face of the earth, take his ass to freaking Tahiti, and leave us just flopping on the sand. We show up today for a record with Jason, by the way, and Kevin is not there. Unbelievable. And what were you doing, Kevin? Say who you were with.
Starting point is 00:07:41 I won't say who I'm with. I was taking a shower. Say who you were with right now. I wasn't taking a shower with someone. I was taking a shower. Say who you were with right now. I wasn't taking a shower with someone. I had to cool off after two recordings. I had two recordings this morning. You were quite happy. Go ahead, Jason. You were quite happy to tell us about it before we hit record, but that's fine.
Starting point is 00:07:57 So I had some recordings. I took a shower. I'm in the conditioning phase. And then I go, thank God my next recording is not till 1.30. Oh, right. This was a contractual sticking point for us that in order
Starting point is 00:08:13 for us to allow Kevin to follow us and leave and continue producing the show, we had to agree that he could bring up himself in the shower multiple times per episode. That was an image he wanted to create for our listeners. And it was just not, there was no budging either.
Starting point is 00:08:31 We actually got a good deal of financial compensation back from him in agreeing to it. But I still think we may have lost the battle to an extent because he's mentioned it at least three times now. And not to bring that up again kevin being in the shower but i will say oh go ahead whatever whatever process was cut short right for you to come and and do the record i actually it's counterintuitive but i actually do need you to finish it so you don't look like this again jason the famous cardigan is here i have the same kevin are you getting this i'm getting it it looks so good kevin are you getting this yes this shit jason and i have the same fucking cardigan look at this cardi boys cardi b oh wow Cardi B. Oh, wow. That's what Cardi B stands for, huh? Damn, dude. Epic. Yes.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Kevin, did cutting short your kind of like multi-phasal showering process, did that in some way cause this distracted kind of energy that you have right now? Like, what was it that... I do feel completely scatterbrained because I am stinky from the waist down. So I will be thinking about that for the rest of the recording. Okay. And this we explicitly said you could not bring up.
Starting point is 00:09:57 This is where we drew the line. That stinky from the waist down could not become your new catchphrase. That's getting cut, Kevin. We talked about this. There's no way that that's going to be, that you can talk about yourself in the shower. You can imply that you did not finish washing your lower half.
Starting point is 00:10:18 But stinky from the waist down, that phrase in particular cannot be in every episode of the show. It's troubling. Not to dig at this, but if you're saying that you were in the conditioning phase, that would mean that you were in the cleansing phase prior to that.
Starting point is 00:10:38 Why would you be stinky from the waist down? It doesn't track, Kevin. It doesn't track at all. I put one part of my body in the shower at a time i isolate do you know how when you exercise you can like isolate certain muscles i do that with my showering does jason know look at his fucking body i know dude's ripped he's a cardi boy that's not what it means that's that's rift guys were rift guys are cardi boys out the it's about the sweater the cardi's the sweater the body's underneath it can we also get into um
Starting point is 00:11:15 what was going on i assume something shower related when it comes to how jason was brought on to this show jason do you want to share that experience sure so two days ago december 9th i get an email from kevin bartelt thank you first of all really it's really easy to say like to think bartlett or some other name that's just that's just kind of like the baseline annoyance that i went into this email with is learning his name that's bull yeah his name is kind of bullshit it's totally it's we can get we can put a pin in that let's come back to it please the email says hey jason i'm reaching out on behalf of sean and hayes great start to see if you're interested and available to be a guest on Hollywood Handbook in the next few days. If possible, if not, no problem.
Starting point is 00:12:08 We have more dates, too. Here are some options. Thursday, December 10th at 1 p.m. Friday, December 10th at 1 p.m. Monday, December 10th at 1 p.m. Oh, my. I think you're seeing the issue here now. Please let it end.
Starting point is 00:12:25 I'm starting to get a sense of it. I didn't say the year, though. Exactly my point. I spent 17 hours straight trying to figure out what year December 10th fell on a Friday and on a monday and how that would work and how that i could possibly know when what my schedule would be where i would be in my life and now kevin saying kevin saying we have we have more dates now that's a threat right now let's say i i've got plenty more to destroy your day with over this yes no i'm commandeering your entire life to deal with my just perverted scheduling kink where i make you look up different calendar years and all this other shit and try to do math when what he should be doing
Starting point is 00:13:26 is making everyone's life easier. Please. Normally I would, but I was having to negotiate not being able to say stinky from the waist down on the show going forward. So I had to.
Starting point is 00:13:36 Kevin, did you see what I did? I closed the shade next to me so that I'm not getting all this glare. That looks great. So that you could get a better image of the Cardi boys. Was it really loud? Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:13:48 It was loud as hell. But it's Cardi time. That's right. And welcome to my birthday, Cardi. So, I'm ready to move on from this. I have a lot of other stuff I want to talk about today. Please.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Yes, of course. I have so lot of other stuff I want to talk about. Please. Yes, of course. I have so much to get to. And it's disgusting that we even spent this much time. But this is Kevin's game, right? He gets all the attention on to him. Oh, sickening, sickening. Jason, I have a T-shirt idea. Tell me if you like this.
Starting point is 00:14:20 So the shirt would say, it doesn't have to be a T-shirt actually. It could be a sweatshirt. It could be pretty cool. Maybe it's a T-shirt though and we wear it under our our cardis together oh um and it says and the shirt says this my love language is bread i like it's and what do you bread as in like french bread is there a particular type of bread well and this is this is because i don't have any idea for like a drawing on the shirt or even a
Starting point is 00:14:54 photograph but maybe it should be a type of bread like maybe a baguette as you mentioned would be usually when usually when people pitch me it's a little bit more of a formed idea mmhmm so say a bread just say a bread there's a bun it's a bun I'm thinking bun
Starting point is 00:15:19 okay like a seeded bun a whole wheat bun if that's gonna make it read one of the really kind of dusty ones oh yeah like a seeded bun a whole wheat bun yeah if that's gonna make it really kind of dusty ones oh yeah like i'd like a whatever that dust is no one is really sure what that is yeah that powdery flowery thing not flowery like flowery like flowery like flowery really dusty bun on there my love language is bread and some dusty buns my love language is bread bread could be all caps fyi oh i like it i like that what kind of font do you think like is there a font are you seeing a font here oh yeah no well i know you're
Starting point is 00:16:02 used to fully formed ideas so i've of course came up with a font ahead of time it's it's uh um um looking around looking around is there a font anywhere in here uh you know what could be block letters oh that, that's good. Yeah, I like that. And we'd wear it under our cardies. What would it, what does it mean to you? I'll tell you what it means to me. Thank you. Bread, I'll tell you what it means to me.
Starting point is 00:16:38 Thank you. Bread, when I think about bread, I think about life. I think about the right that people have to nourish themselves from the sweat of their own brows. I'm thinking about a production of grain that underpinned the development of human society. I think this is like an incredibly deep and moving idea. I wish we really had the bread kind of like illo nailed down harder the dusty bun thing is interesting but i'm not sure how you do like you get the i'm not sure how you show the dust but it's not dusty buns no i'm not married to dusty buns oh you thought i was serious no it's
Starting point is 00:17:20 um what did you just say illo i i couldn't understand what you were saying sorry illustration yeah yeah no that's not the real illo the illo is actually probably more closer to what you're picturing right so like a french bread I'm thinking like a french bread yeah which you said right away which I agreed with as I recall
Starting point is 00:17:41 really long one and maybe it's kind of sticking out of your like waistband not for real uh-huh but you're picturing that you tuck in the shirt and that yes yeah that it looks like a bad guy is sticking up like straight up that it's like fake it's like not actually bread coming out of there but like no but it invokes a certain amount of horniness for the bread right yes which is you know always going to um do good business and maybe it's kind of like you know these things are can be like these things are huge they're so long and so maybe it's like messing with the letters and stuff it's like knocking the letters. It's like knocking the letters over. Oh, it's like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:18:25 it's sticking through some of the letters. Right. Let me just, because there's no bad ideas in a brainstorm, what if it was not that long, but really wide? Okay, that's getting my head turning a little bit. Alright, so it's like,
Starting point is 00:18:42 it's more of a loaf. It's like a focaccia loaf. That's like a big focaccia loaf. Wow. I love this. Then it's almost a pillow that all the letters are sleeping on, isn't it? Ooh.
Starting point is 00:18:55 A big pillowy focaccia that rises from your waist. It's a fuba. It's a fat upper bread area isn't it wow that's good so if if this is resolved and it sounds to me like it is well we're all excited about this version my love language is bread we do want to talk about actually initiating bing mode right now and talking about how so this is the thing that like sean and i like uh we have this issue where some of these like franchises like these big properties right that everyone is talking about you know the ones like police academy so great let's talk about this yeah yeah right things like this that everyone is like yeah
Starting point is 00:19:54 did you see porky porky did last week he's like unbelievable yeah uh we're like it is hard for us to simply take in these entertainments as fans why being too close to individuals involved in making the project yeah potentially the production itself yeah uh be the process of the story being put together and so it's always like oh yeah did that that ended up like getting into like yeah we're too close we're too close to this it's so true and you have developed to great financial reward huge the ability to talk about this stuff as just like i'm i'm a fan i'm loving this i'm the ringer i'm crooked i'm like this is this is this to me is my shit yeah i would love this jason if you would walk us through some of these big that's my shit right and just being like that's my shit and being mr teacher today and saying here's who some of these guys and like
Starting point is 00:21:14 this is what is happening right and in this show if it's a show or if it's something else like sure what's the current you're doing a series right now. We're doing a series about Marvel, the Marvel movies, which you may have heard of. Yes. Perfect. Tony, Steve. Tony.
Starting point is 00:21:38 Tony, Steve. Wow. Tony. Natasha, these kind of like various people. I'm on a first name basis with them as they're characters but they mean a lot to my life so I think of them that way and this is
Starting point is 00:21:54 you're friends with them this is basically the family yeah I think about them that way because the way the modern world is now 2020 when you know we're so disconnected from each other who are we connected with we're connected with these characters that we spend so much time with
Starting point is 00:22:14 like steve and and it's not just your family you know and it's not just your friend sorry to interrupt it's not just your family right it's It's your teachers. It's your boss, right? It's who's ringing you up at the sporting goods store saying, hang on, these socks aren't on sale. And it's all these things, isn't it, to have these guys. And you've said their names. We don't have to go through all the names again. But for someone who's totally uninitiated who isn't family friends teacher boss you know and neighbor and and possibly um in some instances maybe getting
Starting point is 00:22:52 catfished by some of these some of these folks uh and my me in particular you know what what are they doing yeah i i think it's an interesting question in the sense that what what aren't they doing uh tony i know you said you know we've heard the names but i just can't stop saying them tony for instance loves to uh be inside uh a suit. He's like a, what do they call this? Like the gentleman, sort of. So this is a franchise that, if you could connect this to the recent movie, The Gentleman,
Starting point is 00:23:34 they also love to be inside a suit. And these are, but these are, my understanding is these are different guys. Right, they're completely different guys. It's a different IP. Any similarity to the gentleman franchise i think is is purely coincidental and it's not there are no coincidences it's not it's not i i i understand what you're saying and i understand you're protecting my friends there are certain stories inherent to humanity that are told again and again.
Starting point is 00:24:06 The Gentleman is one of these stories. So whether it's being told through your friend Tony, whether it's being told through the gentleman himself, it is the same story. And it's somehow it's at the core of our beings, right? It's just in the star stuff that we're made of somehow that we have to kind of repeat these fables again and again the specifics change a bit but it's it's always there you know it's like well listen if we want to get into like the deep storytelling of which i really think you know uh guy ritchie has has the 12 levels of a story in which uh the gentleman leaves his is leaves his world is called into a new world in which he's going to find like some other adventurers find a new suit he puts on this suit and then he's changed forever and he finds himself
Starting point is 00:25:00 in a in a realm of loneliness because he can't go back to his previous world wearing this new suit. He can't do that. So he has to go further into this adventure. There's the oi to action in all his movies. There's the oi to action where the character says, oi, oi, mate. Oi, mate.
Starting point is 00:25:17 There's the meeting with the bird. Which after which, everything changes, right? So if you want to talk about that, these kind of like archetypical stories, sure. But I'm talking about like on a detail for detail level. You know, legally speaking, they're not the same. Although, yes, all human stories hew to this framework that Guy Ritchie has hammered out over the course of his career.
Starting point is 00:25:43 It's funny when you say that Tony wears suits because I don't, that's not how I picture Tony. Like when I think of Tony, it's not how I see him. And maybe it's because I always think of him at his most vulnerable at the beginning of season four, when Jack Bauer did have to call him, when he said, I'm calling the only person I can trust because he and Secretary Heller's daughter, Audrey Raines, was with him and they were trying to get the footage
Starting point is 00:26:16 to see if she could recognize the face of one of the men who had kidnapped her and all of their security was murdered. And when Jack said he was calling the only person he could trust, we didn't know who. And then Tony Almeida did show up, you know, drunk, divorced, an ex-con at this point, and a shell of his former self. And he didn't have a suit on. But I guess in a way, we're all wearing a suit all the time,
Starting point is 00:26:45 huh? Sure. I mean, it's, it's a suit of the mind. It's a suit of the heart. It's a, it's a,
Starting point is 00:26:52 it's a suit of armor that you wear around. It's a suit of clothes. It might be. It's not the, the, the stuff you were saying. It's not, it's,
Starting point is 00:27:01 well, it could be that. Could it not? It's only clothes in this in this case i think it well suit if you just say she's wearing clothes it's just not like clothes you would call a suit he's wearing like a jacket and like a t-shirt wearing like a more of a suit when you see her but tony's dressed more casually and this is the teacher this tony is the teacher tony is you were saying tony is the teacher he's he teaches and he brings people together he brings this kind of like extended
Starting point is 00:27:34 family together and and teaches them how to live and how to how to dress and this is you talk about this like this is you can do a whole show about this we can do a whole show about this we did uh we did a 12 episode season about the movie game night wow okay yes and just all the themes and all the things that really go into that yeah what a genius the guy's acting wild you know what's real and what's not in game night right right so fucked up i'm tripping out It's like an imaginarium. Whoa! I'm tripping out on this. Hey, thanks for bringing that up, Jason.
Starting point is 00:28:31 That's reminding me. I was lost in that movie, man. I mean, I didn't know what the fuck was going on. That movie was so confusing to me it really i wonder if this is like kind of what the how you could do 12 episodes out of something like this is to kind of just initiate people remembering it and then you just leave them space to react in their homes wow hold on can i can i use that's a good idea i'm just gonna take a note on that really quick because then i mean like everyone's happy you yeah you don't have to talk as much people the listeners are like how you heard sean like even just being the mention of game night is here we go again these memories to just like flow in no it's so nuts
Starting point is 00:29:29 i mean they're you know obviously it's yeah scary but it's also uh it's also having fun. And so what's an episode? You did a Marvel one. Sure, yeah. What was the last one that came out? What do you do? What happened? We did Ant-Man is the one that came out today as we record this. And that stars Clueless's Paul Rudd as a man who turns into the size of an ant does he not age
Starting point is 00:30:08 does he just not age paul rudd he's looking young he looks great did you talk am i stepping on the show is this what the show is i just i you know i just it's he's he is actually really sensitive about it about the fact that he doesn't age. It's like an Andy Milonakis thing. He hit 50 and then stopped. And then that's what it is now. He just looks like that now, and he'll look like that when he's 85. And he looked like that when he was a little kid, too.
Starting point is 00:30:41 Right. So in terms of his interior interior self it just doesn't match who he is yeah right and you're friends with him i i wouldn't say friends but i but you know in the course of my research i think we we've you know we've traded emails and ant-man has so like talk about i mean let's talk about it the thorax right let's get into it they call the thorax the powerhouse of the ant i don't disagree but the abdomen's got something to say about it it's just segmented abdomen uh chitinous shell, kind of like the multi-part eye. These are all parts of the ant. We dedicate one episode each to different parts of the ant.
Starting point is 00:31:35 The parts, yeah. And the pheromones, right? I mean, you know, this is how they're communicating, right? They're not saying, hey, go over here. I found a piece of food. They're saying, hey, smell this. They're not saying, hey, go over here. I found a piece of food.
Starting point is 00:31:44 They're saying, hey, smell this. They're like, this smells like a stinky lower abdomen. I'm going to follow this. No, don't. No, no, no. Who can relate? Kevin. I'm not touching it.
Starting point is 00:32:00 I'm not touching it. Be very careful. Be very careful in how you proceed, Kevin. kevin wow served up on a platter but no they stink for each other they stink too that's right they stink at one another and they say hey come over here or go over there or let's do this and or i'm dead they say you know right and they're not ashamed of it not like us in terms of the way we smell, where we're always so... You've never seen him taking a shower. Ever. Or having various multi-step processes to both scrub our sense and then replace our sense with other scents.
Starting point is 00:32:36 They don't do that. They just smell the way they smell, and they're proud of it. That's who they are. So Ant-Man, you never see him take a shower. Not in the small form, because he would wash away. You see him shower a lot in his larger form, sounds like you're saying. It happens mostly off screen, and I think you're just meant to kind of assume that it happens. He just says that he took a shower.
Starting point is 00:33:03 Jason, did you see the message I sent you let me look at it now did you send where did you send it to me oh my god I'm not recording I'm not recording and see now this is another thing I was recording but my
Starting point is 00:33:20 thing died my thing died on me. It came unplugged. And that was my chat. It said, do you think Sean's recording? I am not and I don't know when it stopped. I've done this so many times Sean.
Starting point is 00:33:37 We have it Sean. We have it. We have your voice. It'll sound like shit. It's going to sound like shit. But I was recording for a time. 20 minutes at least. That's great, dude. That's awesome. That's like, come on.
Starting point is 00:33:53 You were recording for part of the show? That rocks. Well, that's what I'm saying. That's huge. We were so quick to focus on the negative that I stopped recording for a big part of the show and not to even negative that I stopped recording for a big part of the show and not to even address that I was recording for another part. Let's absolutely not focus on the fact that you were not recording for an indeterminate part of time.
Starting point is 00:34:17 Remember when I got the cardigan that matched? That was wonderful. That may or may not have made it. That was probably when it got unplugged because there was a yeah that may or may not have made it that was probably when it got unplugged because there was a lot because i was moving it around so much yeah yeah yeah kind of swinging it and uh and like a very showy way the cats are going nuts too have you seen some of what these cats are doing yeah they're going fucking psycho could have been the cats and kevin you were sending the guest a message which is of course totally unacceptable first time you've ever rules
Starting point is 00:34:52 you've ever done that i'm trying to connect make them feel like aren't isn't this are you talking about his other show well while we're there yeah do you need a guest or because i got two right here i mean we're all recording now too well we were wow could you use any of our first 20 minutes what did the message what you wanted to use the first 20 minutes of this show on his podcast yeah dude cross uh crossover and they do that in in uh the marvel movies right the crossover they do do that that is that is a good point well then i guess you kind of have to i mean you like the movies so actually you're sort of like wow that is a great point i was i was actually dead set against it until you brought that up. That's a great point.
Starting point is 00:35:47 Let me ask you this. Kevin using logic and facts to dismantle his opponent. Wow. I feel snowflaked. I've melted. How long is your contract with Kevin for? How long do you have...
Starting point is 00:36:03 Am I allowed to ask that? Yeah, but we're not with only Kevin knows. Oh wow. It's a one way, one of those one way blind contracts. It's in the message I sent you. He just comes up and goes like,
Starting point is 00:36:15 Hey, I'm renewed. What does the message say? You've said it's all these different things. What does it say? So do you think Sean's recording? No, it didn't say that. What's it really say for real? And by recording no it didn't say that what's it really
Starting point is 00:36:26 say for real and by the way when kevin says that he's renewed to us he really hits nude and it makes me uncomfortable yeah um what's it say jason i can't find it i heard it i heard a sound but i don't know where where did you come and this to me? It sounded like a slack message. It did sound like a slack. But why would it be there? Hold on. I don't have a slack message for you. Can you just read it? Kevin,
Starting point is 00:36:55 can you just read it? Just read it. Okay. It's a photo of a kid with funny sunglasses and it says sup ma don't send that to anyone please send that to jason during the show not during the show after the show send it to him as many times as you want that's right okay this it's just kind of like unprofessional and also like it is a little bit is that fair use also does are you
Starting point is 00:37:33 just allowed to like clip somebody else's some child's ip and then send it over the internet to like during a broadcast like you're opening up the litigation that you're opening the gentleman up to is i might get sued into the fucking stone age with this thank you for referring me as the gentleman i do see myself as guy richie's the gentleman eating better is easy with factors delicious ready to eat meals every fresh never frozen meal is chef crafted dietitian approved ready to go in just two minutes speaking of ready to go in just two minutes chef kevin is here with his new show the chef kevin factor where he creates fresh never frozen meals now this is different kevin i just want to i just want to establish it's none of this like here's a like a pile of ingredients like this is the meal yeah it's not a recipe okay this is the meal you cook the full meal for us now kevin you don't just
Starting point is 00:38:39 send us a bunch of stuff you had laying around in your cabinet you're actually doing the cooking and there are 35 different options to choose from every week including calorie smart protein plus and keto which is this it's a little bit of all of them okay okay it shouldn't be there are also more than 60 add-ons to help you stay fueled up and feeling good all day long how many add-ons and what are some of them it's one big add-on and it's you on your bed you're so tired after you eat my meal the promises the meal makes us sleepy you've been pushing that so much you're saying that you will be added on to your bed yeah your bed plus one that's the opposite of what this is supposed to do it's supposed to help you stay a
Starting point is 00:39:23 lot of these i know give you a ton of energy. They have smoothies and things like that. This is wrong. Reservation for two? Me walking in my bedroom. What's the second? It's you in your bed? The bed.
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Starting point is 00:46:09 you don't see it but he talks about it that's right or you just like he walks into the scene or you hear a shower during the transition he's singing the shower i would assume that he does sing in the shower that's kind of like part of the deep process that Paul Rudd goes through where he's like, he creates this entire realm, this entire character within the performance. So that's one of the things that I do get from it, even though that's not on the page and it's not in the scenes. I just feel like he's a very, he's a very celebratory individual. He really loves life and he's going to be singing in the shower when he, when that hot
Starting point is 00:46:44 water hits his chest there's i i haven't i haven't seen the film per se as hayes mentioned we're so close to it but i have seen some of the outtakes and deleted scenes there's a really funny one where it's just paul rudd and michael douglas saying you know how i know your ant-man and then they will each sort of give you know provide evidence of how they're certain that the other man is ant-man which i believe they both maybe are yeah yeah that was that was pure improv That was improv. That was pure improv. No. This was when Edgar Wright was kind of like just exiting the project. And he was like, you know what, guys?
Starting point is 00:47:34 Let's just like, you know what? They're firing me or I'm moving on or whatever the case may be. Let's just try some stuff. I got what I needed. Let's just try some stuff. And they just went for it they just went wow all the way and am i right also like you know just like you hear about this stuff and again i like i haven't seen the film either but also the the shrinking was improv the shrinking was
Starting point is 00:47:58 right well it's it's a lot of that has a lot of that is just kind of Paul, his own ability to concentrate and create the illusion that there is shrinking. Some of it is just... And so what he's really doing is running really fast away from the camera. Well, no, he kind of like punches his shoulders and like caves in and kind of like stoops a little bit. Oh, he's squinching. He's squinching. He's squinching himself. That's right.
Starting point is 00:48:29 That's so interesting. No, now that I think about it. So to us, it looks like, and part of it is you're in a theater and you're suspending your disbelief. And so it looks like he's becoming this tiny bug. But really, he is actually just, it it's a practical effect which is he just is not squinching just there's a little bit of in-camera stuff with like a with like a with a pull out and a focus yeah some kind of like but but a lot of it is just the way he can just kind of contort his body so that it looks legitimately absolutely minuscule. So, so
Starting point is 00:49:05 small. Unlike a lot of actors, he's not such a tall guy either that it's going to be distracting on camera. He's starting from, he's not a short guy, but he's starting from a place where this guy can really squinch
Starting point is 00:49:21 and he can squinch himself up. The cat next to me is going insane. He's excited by this. I've never seen this guy can really squinch and he can squinch himself up and the cat next to me is going insane. He's excited by this. I've never seen this guy do this. I think the cats are mad because we're not talking Garfield. Hey man. Come on.
Starting point is 00:49:37 A lot of shit is funny to me. That's not fucking funny man. That's not cool. That's not funny. Kevin's like big. That's not funny. Kevin's like baked. Are you wasted, man? Hey, it's 420 somewhere. No, it's not.
Starting point is 00:49:55 No, it's not, dude. Are you blazed? Come on, man. It's not 420 anywhere. Where are you guys? Like, be honest. Well, maybe the cat cat is saying this is effectively what the guy does other guy huge and like he goes crazy and he says you don't and i you will not like going crazy when i do it yeah you remember no yes this is not the same guy that's not what ant-man is saying yes but one of his buddies goes hey hey i know we all sometimes act a little bit
Starting point is 00:50:38 crazy when i'm acting crazy you're gonna be it's to be. It's not the best. That's basically what the cat said as well. So like, hey, man. Hey, I hear you, buddy. And that's a practical effect as well. That's in camera also. So much is happening inside this camera i'd love to get a look at the camera itself because it seems like it's got a lot of pieces that are doing stuff
Starting point is 00:51:13 that to me at least from when you know when i've been in the theater even just to see some of the previews he looks so squinched the guy looks so scary to me who's saying that he's gonna go crazy and what is happening royal you are sitting in the window yelling you are running across the room as fast as you can you are jumping onto every surface nothing has changed these you're behind me now nothing has changed or happened at all in this room to make you do this is sabotage, plain and simple. And I think you're jealous of being mode with Jason. I appreciate that. And I think you think that maybe you should have been involved with cooking media.
Starting point is 00:51:57 And it's honestly disgusting to see this jealousy come out this way. And I've always taught in my household that a rising tide lifts all butts well you know what they what they say about jealousy i don't right because i don't ever think about it because i don't feel it what do they say uh that it makes uh it makes an ass out of you and me. Oh, wow. So just don't participate in it at all. Uh-oh. Royal Nugget, I want to hear that. Yeah. And maybe that guy is jealous,
Starting point is 00:52:34 and that's why this guy looks like this. He's like he hung. Ah, hung. Hung. he um hung uh hung hung he you know he he says you wouldn't like it when i when i'm going crazy that's that's you will not like and i mean maybe he's so jealous that that's why he looks like this guy. He looks like this. I mean, it could be. I was wondering, are you talking about the show hung? So, I understand that the show version,
Starting point is 00:53:19 if I could actually just step in and help you out a little bit here, the show version on Disney Plus is going to be she hung. Right. in and help you out a little bit here the show version on disney plus is going to be she hung right but then the movie version is the that is just hung right the hung the incredible hung right the incredible hung the hung the incredible hung has changed over the years well because like the rock and yeah the hung sometimes he's the hung but then other times like he's also himself and halfway the hung other times it's like he changes colors with it like a kid like he started as hung as the hung it was originally yeah it was originally uh green and couldn't control the hung. And then as the story goes on, he sits with it and he processes it
Starting point is 00:54:13 and he's able to take more control of the hung and be like half hung. He could sit on it even. I mean, I'm just saying like this guy like, no, feel free to keep talking about it no it's because it feels like you're almost stopping yourself haze right because this is supposed to be jason's area of expertise and he didn't he initially thought you meant the tv show which is fine you're keeping so much information in your head but obviously you were talking about the whole series of movies all the movies i think have somewhere have Hung's name in them.
Starting point is 00:54:46 Well, Hung is in all of them. Hung is in Endgame. He's in Infinity War, although he can't turn into Hung in that one. He's got some sort of mental block and he's unable to... Trapped, stuck, yeah. Right, he's unable to kind of get it going. Get it, get it. Yeah. Right. He's unable to kind of get it going. Get it, get it.
Starting point is 00:55:07 Yeah. I can't get it. I can't get it. He needed, he needed something else, needed some help. And that kind of embarrassed him. He couldn't hang out.
Starting point is 00:55:15 Yeah. Not able to hang out. Yeah. He was like this. I can't do it for some reason. Can somebody help me? And then it was like, that's,
Starting point is 00:55:23 you know, I don't know. Like, can't you just go off and do it on your own but then to like kind of close the loop the full like arc of the character bending towards justice he does become hung in the final film and he's kind of like integral into the grand victory and he says like you don't want to know my secret right i'm always this i could always do it the whole time yeah right it's like okay why did you say that though yeah why didn't you do it yeah there's yeah well that's that scene is very interesting because previously to that tony had said we need hung you know what we need right now is hung and hung uh
Starting point is 00:56:07 he wasn't in hung form at that time bruce he kind of like rode up on a motorcycle and he was like oh wow look at this what's what's happening with these the big snakes in the sky and all the stuff yeah um the technical term and then yeah no i didn't know what you're talking about yeah i didn't mean to get i don't know what the fuck you're talking about no it's good listen if you let bing mode engage it's on episode 47 of i go beast mode on bing mode dude and just absolutely flip that switch and go beast does he remember what he was doing when he was uh when he was when he's hung and when he's normal guy does he remember kind of like through a haze through a through a fog hey that's your name yeah that's my name don't worry about please sorry but like yeah kind of like through a through a foggy gauze of of the excitement of being hung
Starting point is 00:57:09 like once the hungness kind of like wears off he gets like really drowsy and all of a sudden his like pants are torn and he spends a lot of the time like at least the early minutes of the transformation back into himself being like what can somebody just get me like a pair of pants and a shirt because like it's yeah i'm out here um but then later on he does think about all the stuff that he did when he was hung and can he have really good sex when he's doing that which part which at any point well i mean i guess that's really in the eye of the beholder isn't it like are you gonna you do it with your eye
Starting point is 00:57:48 you do gotta behold it can you behold this for me wait a second why do you have 3D glasses on what is that I found the filters part on zoom so whenever you say something you can like throw on uh give me the what the heck god give me that he's got a pirate hat on give me that man people are gonna love paying for these zoom oh my god and now people can see that on video oh Oh geez. Wow. Give me that.
Starting point is 00:58:25 All the filters. Give me that. Give me that. Okay. Geez Louise. Part of the deal. So let me get this straight. You're just able to like access different filters and the talent on the show.
Starting point is 00:58:39 It is their show. It's their creative enterprise. It's their expert mode of expression you you have hidden this ability from them oh wait hayes has it now clements has it now never mind i don't have anything yeah how do you are you gonna explain it to us you gotta go to zoom.us in the top left corner and then hit preferences and then hit backgrounds and filters and change your damn life. Nothing weird over here. This is just how I look.
Starting point is 00:59:09 Sean right now has reindeer horns and the kind of black shiny nose. So not Rudolph. One of the reindeers that bullied Rudolph was so mean to him. And then ears kind of like the reindeer ears
Starting point is 00:59:25 and it says that my processor is not recommended for doing this but I'm going to do it anyway okay sounds like you're a broke bitch hey Jason maybe we should have a baguette on there and he has a French hat
Starting point is 00:59:43 my love language is bread shirt i'm a wow this is great hat on so this is cool so this is actually good this is great yeah this is like one of the best oh look at that deal with it so now you have the deal with it the pixelated deal with it sunglasses now you both have them on and tell crooked media because i've seen joe biden has this he does have that yeah now i will say like i should probably he has the real ones have listened to the the warning because this is hurting me to have these on yeah and you look really i'm not like upset that i did i did like learn something from this but like it is it is it really really hurts but you look unwell yeah the longer you've
Starting point is 01:00:34 had it the more um messed up you're starting to look and it's scaring but luckily i do have an easy reaction to my computer when my computer says hey don't do this well that's a broken bond of trust now you can't how can you even believe the warnings that your computer gives you at this yeah and now i'm basically obligated to just say deal with it because i do have these sunglasses on and that has to be my reaction to everything now this is kind of like a um what would you say this is this is like a rainbow like a roy g biv kind of feel yeah yeah that's a bunny rabbit uh-huh oh look at this i'm being safe got a mask on well this this rocks this rocks this is unbelievable and this honestly like in
Starting point is 01:01:27 god i mean i hate for you to find out this way jason but this is like you're now you're going to like start and you're like doing shows about movies and stuff but this is basically the end of movies right here yeah and we're watching it happen in real time just because this is the way that i process and this is the way that i like create i'm just gonna like run through what this show has been what it's been like for me we've recorded a show um the got into a fight with the producer there is maybe 20 to 30 minutes 20 to 30 minutes of audio missing and then we did a whole section that's purely visual we described it in a very rich detail i think it's this is the next level this is whatever it is yeah and this is like now
Starting point is 01:02:17 instead of movies and i guess you can still enter bing mo but it's gonna have to be like about me trying like these different sunglasses on it's good right going to be like you know it's going to require a lot of pivoting to like to get into this space but you're champions adjust when you talk about movies man when you talk about the hung movies or whatever that's a visual thing you're discussing that that honestly oh wow blacklist has gone full blacklist now i'm a criminal so hayes has gone blacklist and he's and he is the spader character from that so red reddington so i had a completely different i thought that hayes was going to steal hamburgers from Mayor McCheese, but I guess that's completely wrong.
Starting point is 01:03:10 Well, that would be stripes, and he would have a big old hamburger on the band of his hat. So I don't mean to call your ass out. I'm sorry. No, that's okay. I deserve to be checked. No, it's just when we allow ignorance
Starting point is 01:03:30 to just sort of thrive unchecked, we really are doing a disservice to all of society. I am the honey bear. I am coming for the honey because it's yummy to me, the bear. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:49 And we're probably running pretty late. That's fine. So, like, you know, and I recorded at least part of this, which I do think should be a bigger part of the conversation. It's great. It's huge. It's really great. That's so cool.
Starting point is 01:04:04 Thank you. It's so good. it's so good and i'm apologize on behalf of my cat who now has calmed down now that we're done don't do it don't apologize for the cat what was happening for him he was jealous huh he was going in a total hung mode bye bye Hollywood Hamburg

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