Hollywood Handbook - John Gemberling and Anthony Atamanuik, Our Comedy Casino Friends

Episode Date: May 17, 2022

The Boys team up with TONY ATAMANUIK and JOHNNY GEMBERLING to make a comedy casino.Watch the video recording of this episode at Patreon.com/TheFlagrantOnesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19....com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 this is a head gum podcast so i roll up i walk up to the counter sort of bow-legged and i say one epic pepperoni stuffed crust. And they say, okay, what do you want to drink? And I say, oh, crush. Crush cream soda, cream crush.
Starting point is 00:00:36 Normal as can be. Cream crush, please. And they're like, hmm. Okay, I can see them trying to work out how this is going to work. And they're like, okay. Okay. All right, give me one second. And then they go back what's the issue so the epic aspect of the epic pepperoni stuffed crust is that whatever you want to drink is is what it is it's stuffed with the drink so when they say what do you want to drink that's what it there's the pepperoni and the drink and what you're kind of supposed to say
Starting point is 00:01:14 i guess to be polite is that you want sauce cheese cheese cheese you're supposed to be like oh i guess i'll have some some i'll guess i'll have some cheese to drink and then they're like great thank you that's awesome and then can you get a drink or you have to go next door or something the drinks are on the back and they don't come in bottles they come in like uh inject like uh like an injector needle like a syringe but it's like one of those fat like foods for it like a plastic syringe not one that you would like use on like a a guy right and so they're just trying to figure out how to get the cream soda cream into the into the into the crust. Yes, it's getting in. But then now
Starting point is 00:02:07 there's a hole. And so it's coming out of the hole. Well, the process falling apart. Yeah, it evaporates in the oven. Does anyone explain this to you or at any time? Does anybody talk to you about it?
Starting point is 00:02:23 This is what's so fucked about our country right now if i can just say this is like i i'm happy this we're on our own we're on our own this is what's so there is nobody coming to save us yes good luck yeah no it the the the the marvel The Marvel movies that you go and see, that's a fantasy, pal. Dr. Strange isn't walking through the door. Once again, I'm supposed to vote my way out of this. Just go vote one more time. This will be the one. This time it'll fix it.
Starting point is 00:03:00 And then once again, sorry, nothing we can do because we have the white house we have the senate you know and so at this point like if you're not going to come in and fix something as simple as a cream crush epic pepperoni stuffed crust pizza then how can i trust you with law? So that's my last time going to... That's your last time going to the pizza? Going to see Papa. It's probably my last time going to the voting booth as well. They don't want to call it Papa John's anymore
Starting point is 00:03:41 because of that. It's called Papa Different Guys now. I've been since they changed it it i'd be more comfortable walking i don't want to have a bag that says papa john's just papa different guys they know hey i'm part of the solution welcome to my show to the show the big show hollywood handbook. Tony and Johnny. Tony and Johnny. Tony and Collie. The boys with their little microphone toys. They love to do the show.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Are we here? We're here. Johnny Gemberling and Tony Atamanek. John G. Thank you. The bad boys. John C.
Starting point is 00:04:26 This thing is on a rocket ship to outer space. It's a big show. It's a show. The show is taking off. Very buzzy. They don't come along that often anymore, these buzzy shows. Our show?
Starting point is 00:04:43 Yes. The marketplace they said was saturated no room for another podcast well i guess we'll have to make room said johnny and tony is it is it carve out a little space for ourselves i'm hearing buzz really this is really you know we're just such a mom and pop operation you know we have our heads down, just grinding them out every week. I think it's the format. We're the mom and pop. We're the papa different guys. Yeah, we're the papa different.
Starting point is 00:05:14 You're looking for papa different. We're right here. Yeah, these are the different guys. These are two different guys. It's different. It's casual and filtered conversation. You listen? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Does it sound like I listen uh yeah absolutely describe it yeah casual unfiltered conversation yeah that's it old friends chopping it up not afraid to step on each other's toes either which i enjoy yeah we are afraid actually but it just sort of happens wow yeah but you fight through that fear to get to get pissed at each other and but that's but you know being brave is not the absence of fear of stepping on each other's toes you can't be brave unless you're afraid yeah and yes you need it anyway you need your fear you need your fear you know that's what that's what makes you whole i mean that's what kirk said to cybok and star trek 5 and that's what ned stark said i am in the first uh game of thrones uh episode
Starting point is 00:06:14 yeah you can't be afraid you can't be brave unless you're afraid no if you're not afraid you're not doing jack shit yeah well we're excited that we didn't realize that there was so much buzz you know about our show oh my god you never know when you're in it speaking from experience we were buzzy seven eight years ago we didn't know what we had at the time so cherish this now you guys have been doing this podcast for like almost 10 years right yes we have been we have been on we we started out with this like trajectory of rising very quickly in sort of the podcasting world we have maintained it across an entire decade wow no change in the rate of increase of our listenership the entire time every day i wake up and like it's gotta fall off yeah we should see a little dip you know what i mean today
Starting point is 00:07:12 has to be the day i'm surprised your listenership isn't affected by the crypto dip that there's no sort of correlation it's it ended up being great for us that people are cashing out to subscribe. Interesting. You don't accept crypto for subscription fees. We don't. How do we handle that? Not anymore. No. We're just cold hard cash these days.
Starting point is 00:07:37 We're analog. People pay in cash. Real estate. They pay in actual cash to subscribe. Yep. I drive around in real estate. Is there like a depot or like a i drive around i got a i got a truck oh they just give me their address i show up 12 hours later
Starting point is 00:07:52 anywhere in the country i make it work it's interesting john we're more pure we don't make money off of this podcast not what it's about in fact we've lost money and and that's i think when you know you care about something when you're sinking money into something you're losing money and it comes through on mike that you're losing money and i think that's part of what's made it so buzzy is it's like the passion is so real yeah but yeah no i listen and i i could just feel the money slipping out of your pockets as you guys are having these conversations.
Starting point is 00:08:30 When did you become profitable? Gosh, what's today? Thursday? This is a Thursday right now. So I guess it would be Sunday night. Sunday night.
Starting point is 00:08:46 Not quite Monday yet, but closer to Monday than obviously. Wow. Saturday, yeah. And you're in the black, as they say. Wow. Wow, that's pretty impressive. Yeah, I mean, we don't, like I said, we do it for the art. And, you know, we don't really.
Starting point is 00:09:04 And it is art. It's a disrespected art form. It's a disrespected art form. It is a disrespected art form. You know, and we looked at, we said, we're two nubiles. I mean, we're nubiles when it comes to this. Nubiles? Smooth nubiles. We're smooth nubiles.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Yes. Yeah. Yeah. We're smooth nubiles. And we, you know, we didn't know. We were like open bare bellied lambs just hoping to come into this territory and
Starting point is 00:09:29 and make the little lambs running around with their bare bellies not even wool to say yeah everyone knows about lambs and their fat bare bellies just dragging on the ground just exposing their little bellies just showing them off.
Starting point is 00:09:45 They don't know any better. You know, that's how they tracked a serial killer who was a shepherd. Did you know that? Talk about that a little bit. Yeah. Because you've brought this up a few times already today. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:57 Well, in our pre-interview in the pre-pre in, in 1968 and, and, uh, outside. That's right. Just like setting. That's right.
Starting point is 00:10:07 Yeah, setting. One pill makes you horny. And I was born made to wear the flag. Ooh, that red, white, and blue. But it was a torn torn ireland divided ireland and uh just just south of belfast um uh over 15 women were found uh in different states of decomposition with all their hair removed piled into a bag and set next to them and uh south of belfast sobey yeah that's what they call it now they call it so big yeah so big yeah it's the sobey arts district and and so and they thought
Starting point is 00:10:54 for a while it was a very noted uh northern ireland artist actually phineas mcfinney and uh And they actually were able to track this murderer down using forensic belly slide imprints on the grass. That the one thing the shepherd couldn't do was leave his flock because he is a dedicated. He was a dedicated shepherd. And you got to give them that. So they were coming with him. The flock was there at every murder. And you could see their underdeveloped teats, the mark of the teats dragging in the... The nubile belly tracks scraping through the Sobe meadows.
Starting point is 00:11:38 And it's a really interesting case. Thank you for bringing that up. It was. The sheep's fat teats were dragging in the dirt yeah and the hooves weren't they're these are lambs they're very developed yeah they're under no they were you know they're underdeveloped but large enough teats no they're swollen and their teats like their teats are just on their bellies their bellies are short legs at that age as well yeah think about when you were eight or seven well i don't know if this is like a johnny had a different experience which is fine yeah that's true maybe i don't know of having like
Starting point is 00:12:17 big round nipples like yeah big fat engorged nipples is like there's no normal with this yes when i was eight that's so true when i was eight and my fat teats were making tracks in the ground my hind hooves would would would erase those tracks wow as i walked right because i'm walking on the teat tracks with my hind hooves well i mean they haven't gone to trial yet and maybe maybe this is from 1968 yeah yeah it's uh what do you call uh um statute of limitations the statute of limitations is you wait for decades yes you have to try the case that's how they do it in ireland the statute of limitations is we can only do so much there is no normal with this stuff in terms of like what
Starting point is 00:13:10 statute of limitation means there's no reason to limit that and here it may mean how long before you are unable to prosecute a crime yeah you know in ireland it's how long you have to wait before you're allowed yeah before you do it so yeah he had quite a life you know family grandchildren and he actually was a model model a citizen and a model as well yes and he was he was uh he was actually uh one of uh robert maplethorpe's uh first uh models in his first book and he also had a lot to do with the um uh what's the famous clothing store he was he was always you know catching a football on a picnic table or he's in a tree and look at me and yes no yeah that's how i mean what i hear this new documentary is about how the models were not just all white, but like Irish, native.
Starting point is 00:14:06 Yes. Irish. Thick brogues. Thick brogues. But blonde. But blonde. And blue eyes. Very strange.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Yeah. But all Irish. The staff. The shepherd's staff. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, I love true crime. That's just who I am.
Starting point is 00:14:23 No, I'm addicted to this stuff. And it's funny because, you know, here you do a podcast. It's not expressly a true crime podcast, but I don't think it hurts to have that obsession. I think there's room to talk about that stuff in podcasting a little bit. A little bit. You could be possibly lucrative you know down the line down the line not that you're interested in that but it's that seems like a risky proposition i think we'll stick with the podcast we lose money on okay i i i think i think we know what
Starting point is 00:14:57 we're doing i i appreciate but i appreciate you and i want you to know i appreciate you and everyone sees things differently i mean how would we break into true like what do they do they listen to like the police the scanner I think you listen to the scanner and then you sort of yeah you get in there and you just say like hey so I was listening to the scanner
Starting point is 00:15:16 hey this guy's being weird yeah there's a guy being weird one guy's voice was kind of nasal and I heard the beginning of what street he was going to yeah it's helpful too if like you live in a if you live in like um uh really expensive building on the upper west side and you know maybe you have a couple of friends who are you know really just out the door on the ledge of both you know their lives and their careers partner up with them and you know you find that you have a common interest right right and it is true crime and
Starting point is 00:15:52 yes yeah well you're a beloved media source that sort of becomes your entree and then that grows into your you know you're working as a community you're making art together you're investigating something in real time and it's it's exciting and you know two of you are old make sense yes one's tiny one's normal size yeah or tall even yeah and then of course there's your other best friend to complete the set the young latina yeah well yeah of course everyone i mean hates us openly uh for a while and we really have to work at her to to just get any kind of i mean it's almost a trope at this point the two old men hanging out with the young latina solving crimes i mean you know no and yeah people may be sick of that, but it's
Starting point is 00:16:46 funny. It still works on me. Yeah. I go, here we go again. Let me guess. These two old guys are going to meet a young Latina they befriend. And then, you know, I'm so proud. I go, there she is. I wonder if they're going to find something in common.
Starting point is 00:17:02 But then, before you know it, I've got my popcorn out and I'm, you know, skipping through the next one because I do love seeing that group. Speaking of shows, this show, doing this one, we know what we're doing just like you guys what we want to think about is what we can do together you guys are sort of a rising commodity right we are again maintaining the gap as as we move up and up and up in our
Starting point is 00:17:45 subscribers and our listens but I do think there's still an opportunity for us to reach back you guys to reach forward and like we sort of grab hands and we'd love to send the elevator back down you know it's
Starting point is 00:18:01 going to be quite a few floors but I know that a lot of podcasts i you know that is a lot of podcasts did not do that for us yeah interesting you pull us up a little we drag you down a little and we just meet in the middle i i think that could be many podcasts we send the elevator back down other podcasts will hack the elevator so it careens towards the roof of the building and your eyes are impaled by the spikes at oh at the top of the elevator shaft oh like a charlie oh oh i was thinking emilio charlie no charlie you're thinking charlie she that wasn't charlie sheen that was thinking charlie that was emiliovez. Red light, green light.
Starting point is 00:18:46 He was thinking glass elevator. I was thinking mission impossible. But where Willy Wonka gets impaled and Charlie survives because the spikes don't reach his head. Charlie's small. Yeah, Charlie's small. So there's another pairing.
Starting point is 00:19:01 All you need is a young Latina. If you have Willy Wonka and you've got Charlie, you need a young Latina. You got mystery to solve. Charlie's too young to me for that. Yeah. I'd like to see Willy Wonka, Slugworth, and a young Latina. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:19:18 That would be pretty nice. And they are friends in the end. You know, he works for him. I don't know if you know that. He was a fake Slugworth. Do you know he works for him i don't know if you know that it was a fake slug do you know that about slugworth did that he he worked for willie wonka every time i forget i watch it every time i'm scared every time i'm like what is this guy doing he's meeting with these children and he's he's being so crazy he's being so crazy to them's being so crazy. He's being so weird to them, yeah. And it's like my mind is wiped.
Starting point is 00:19:46 And then you get to that reveal and you just go, oh, Slugworth was good. I should have known by the name Slug, which obviously is incredibly fastidious and- Very loyal. Nature's gardeners. Very loyal creatures. And worth and value.
Starting point is 00:20:09 It's right there in the name. They're nature's gardeners. I'm like normal gardeners which have no association with nature at all. It's the most unnatural thing in the world. You know,
Starting point is 00:20:23 normal gardeners are trying to control nature, manipulate it for their own, you know, do their bidding or whatever. Right. Slugs work within the existing structures. They're just trying to. I'm nature's gardener. Just goo on it. But how's that gardening? Just goo on it.
Starting point is 00:20:38 They're in the ecosystem. Gardening, by definition, is outside of nature. It's part of agriculture it's it is controlling nature but nature's gardeners that just means aren't bees more like nature's gardeners excuse me there's not just one nature's garden i mean i don't think i said nature's only gardeners that is that is true i would say they're more of like the bees are like nature's horn dogs you know because they're like fucking flowers all day they're getting all up in the flowers guts yeah yeah they're they're fucking stinger deep
Starting point is 00:21:20 in flowers and they're buzzing they're creating buzz like your show if we can just return some of the things that we were discussing just a minute ago just keeping it on sort of on track no getting us back to where we were going yeah what kind of partner i mean what kind of project you know do you think that something like the phony and collie show which you know our show has a very particular structure you know it's about two guys talking aimlessly for a while ours too ours is about a couple of men chatting uh-huh without uh you know without a particular destination you know we try not to uh put too many parameters on what we can discuss
Starting point is 00:22:05 uh and it's and it's for a little bit what do you what how long do you typically record for uh well the episodes that we release are approximately an hour you know with ads so maybe 48 minutes of content is released let's say we record for six to seven hours a day yeah yeah wow are you it's it's your and and we're probably not as long lately because we've been doing it for a little while we kind of can feel when something's hot when something's working like i think we'll probably use the slug discussion from this. Oh, that's fun. Yeah. That's fun.
Starting point is 00:22:47 Just no context. And you have ads that run regularly, not just occasionally. Do you have more than one ad in an episode? You'd have to ask Kevin. You'd have to talk to Kevin. I don't really deal with that. Yeah, I'd prefer it. Kevin? What's up, guys? um yeah the ads are pretty interesting we really um get like every last drop out of it for the whole month
Starting point is 00:23:15 so before we used to have like does that make sense I don't just like you know I don't you don't have we've done ads for a while, so we totally understand what that means. But like for you that don't have that experience, like does it not make sense that we get every last drop out of it for the whole month? I can be honest. I don't understand what that means. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:35 I didn't know. I was afraid of that. Okay. I was hoping he would maybe break it down a little more clearly. I obviously got it. I said, Oh, this is pretty obvious. What are you saying? We get every drop out of it for the whole month. But it but smart for haze to jump in and say hey wait a
Starting point is 00:23:50 minute these guys are flying blind you know let's hold their hand to sound you might be like to sound like you're laughing and crying when you talk about this stuff is that weird no when you're talking about ads it's actually very normal oh Oh, okay. Okay. So before we would manually edit in a new ad every single episode. Now we're doing this thing in the industry called dynamic ad insertion where instead of having I know about that.
Starting point is 00:24:19 Hundreds of ads throughout the year. That's what these are doing. Yeah. That's what they're inserting there yeah sorry kevin go ahead i mean that's right isn't that what the flowers are doing to the bee we typically get like a couple ads and then no hang on actually wait no that's no the flowers are covering the bees and the bees aren't putting anything into the flowers the bees are bringing the flowers are covering the bees and the bees aren't putting anything into the flowers the bees are bringing the flowers are inserting something into the bees no i think the flowers
Starting point is 00:24:52 are i guess the bees insert their whole big ass in there man their ass and they get covered in the fucking flower juice yeah i think they're stinging the flowers no No, they'd be dead. I didn't say stinger. I said their ass. I guess the pollen's coming off of them. Yeah, they move flower to flower, and there's pollen on their legs and their back hind ass. And then they go to another flower
Starting point is 00:25:18 that maybe doesn't have a lot. You know, what's going on. And they drop the pollen over there, and then the flower's like, great. now I can grow more. Nature's horny gardener. I think the flower's inserting another bee. Sorry. Is that how flowers...
Starting point is 00:25:34 I just got kind of pissed off, you know? John, this is a really important... I was going to suggest maybe that you guys get... that you get into the ads game, but now I actually think you should not. I think you should stay as far away from this as possible. This is a little bit of a gang up on me. Well, John, when you do the ads, you know, you're representing a brand. And so if you were to go rogue like you just
Starting point is 00:26:00 did and abandon the copy and start just theorizing on a flower somehow inserting into a bee uh you'd lose a lot of very important people a lot of money i do have to step in we'll be step in and defend my partner and say that even though i think what he said clearly was wrong in just in basic fundamental- Kevin and I have barely been able to get through a sentence. You guys have been laying in wait to jump all over the two of us.
Starting point is 00:26:32 But I wanted to say that John has, I think, a greater purpose here, which is to understand maximizing dynamic ad insertion, which I know I'm very interested in. Absolutely. John and I both have obviously had very storied careers in the industry. And we really feel like as industry mavens, as people who have been around, are visible, are seen, are recognized, are even during COVID, recognized are um even during covid even with a mask on people could tell me through just through my eyes yeah and yes you know we know i'll desperate look in your eyes yes yo i run i have awful sort of disassociative panic attacks that i don't even remember who i am and i leave the house
Starting point is 00:27:22 isn't that nice yeah everyone else knows don't they yeah that's one of the gifts right yeah so recognizable well my neighborhood sort of does a story circle every week and tells me what i did so i go out in the week and i go you know maybe i attack somebody or i you know i you know maybe shit in a little Madonna, you know, like a little, and where I live there's a lot of Madonna and babies. Where I live, yeah. You might use a toilet, you know. On planet Earth, there's little Badattas everywhere.
Starting point is 00:27:56 No, I don't know where I live. Where I live, too. Where I live. Little Madattas. Where I live as well, there's little. There's some big Badattas. And there's huge ones. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:28:03 There's enormous ones, yeah. Oh, really? We don't have enormous ones. You know, you wouldn't. There's a little, there's some big Madonna's And there's huge ones. Yeah, absolutely. There's enormous ones. Yeah, but. Oh, really? We don't have enormous ones. You know, you wouldn't. There's a little Krishna. You would get on one of those. A little Krishna on the corner. But anyway,
Starting point is 00:28:12 so I would really, you know, think that our star power should be enough to drive the show, but it just feels like ad insertion, especially if it's dynamic,
Starting point is 00:28:23 would be something interesting to both of us. It is dynamic. And thank you for the reset. And go ahead, Kevin and John. You know, I'll save my comments for afterward. After I just want to clarify after what? After he start after after you start talking.
Starting point is 00:28:41 After I start talking, then the comments will flow free. Yes. All right. Let me try it like this. This analogy. Because I'm a little bit of a music head. Your band's about to go on tour.
Starting point is 00:28:57 Sorry, I just get emotional. Your band's about to go on tour. Are you reading this? It's okay. Yeah, put the paper down and just say it put the paper down and just say it i i trace my hand when i get nervous well you're gonna you know what you're all set for thanksgiving turkey turkey okay i feel better your band's about to go on tour okay you sound you sound worse
Starting point is 00:29:27 yeah you don't sound better about to go on stage or on tour am i packing or am i touring tour you're you're tuning what so stage on stage yeah you're about to go on stage. You're on. I guess you're not really on tour until you, you know, until the first note is played. And so I guess effectively you are about to go on tour if it's the first show. You're about to go on tour. You're tuning for the first show. And your manager comes up to you and says,
Starting point is 00:30:02 instead of playing 10 songs tonight, why don't you play three? And then you say, but we can do 10. And then they say, no, do three tonight. And then the next city do one. Okay. Get it? I feel like I already have to understand dynamic ad placement to understand the analogy that you're making.
Starting point is 00:30:25 I thought this was going to be the explanation. I think I get it. Thank you, Tony. I think I get it, which is that they're saying, hey, why not do less and leave early? And let's
Starting point is 00:30:42 just go to the next town. And you get paid less. and get paid less and do less the songs are the ads and then yes and then you go to the second city and you play one song and then your manager plays a video of the other songs to everyone on this in the audience here's i think a better analogy your band's about to go on tour before you take the stage you know your manager comes up and says hey in between the songs why don't you do a couple ads thank you should i do all the ads now they go no no no we're gonna dynamically insert the ads throughout the course of the tour okay the dynamic quality of the insertion i think
Starting point is 00:31:27 is the part that is not getting explained at all clearly where does the dynamism somebody decides where to put the ads in and they just decide differently every time and that's the dynamism dynamic you know dynamically based on people don't know where to skip to. So when they're playing the podcast, or let's say to continue our concert for Ice Axe, our band, that we're, and I'm presuming,
Starting point is 00:31:56 John, that that's okay. You're saying it Ice Axe. It's Ice Axe. Yeah, Ice Axe. I, comma, Sax comma sax our logo is crudely drawn testicles with two dollar bill pyramid eyes on each one yeah i mean we play saxophone eyes act no i it's more about i just want i just wanted to be clear it about that. We, that we all play saxophone. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:26 It's an all sax band, but the logo. Yes. It does add a different layer to it for sure. Yeah. It just like lets people. I like, I'm not complaining about the logo.
Starting point is 00:32:36 It's a lowercase. I voted for a different logo. That's fine. It's a low for a different name. I wanted to call it. I want to call it i want to call it isis oh i understand we all have sisters yeah isis isis and then you bring your sisters up to dance at the end of the show and then people in the audience can buy nice yeah and and johnny and
Starting point is 00:33:02 tony here's a little trick of the trade and johnny but have have the ad have a little sax solo so people don't want to skip it yeah because sometimes it can be boring and then you feel the elevator going down i don't have any the elevator is going down to help the other people to help the other part yeah but there's a different elevator we're on is there an ad elevator and a health elevator this is the rock and roll elevator in this case it's songs yeah and the elevator goes down and it's got uh amelia west of as his corpse on the roof how many dates do we have are we doing like major cities are we doing second market so you the you play every week but sometimes you don't have any songs.
Starting point is 00:33:47 Okay. If that makes sense. You'll go to your manager like, hey, why don't we have any songs this week? We're still doing a show. Yeah. And the manager doesn't know either. They'll say, let me check on that. Well, it seems like the manager, I'll say this.
Starting point is 00:34:02 It seems like the manager truly does not know what's going on, nor really care, almost as if it's like some sort of like, like, you know, when you have like a public service from like a crime that doesn't constitute jail time and you must go somewhere and, you know, do a compelled service for a period of time. That sort of feels like the attitude of the manager in relationship to whether there's songs in the concert or not, whether they care or not. And often only tells you information. Committed a petty crime and was was sentenced to compulsory service. That happens all the time. Well, the manager... It's typical sentencing.
Starting point is 00:34:48 You know, the jails are overcrowded. Yeah. The manager cares about some stuff. He was able, I guess, to purchase a house yesterday. You're not the manager's only client, and that's becoming increasingly clear. It's funny.
Starting point is 00:35:03 When we went on tour, our manager let us know right up front that we were not only not their only client but that they would not be paying attention to the tour whatsoever this manager was like fully invested but then realized the band doesn't like playing music and got scared the manager was scared i just want to clarify the manager was scared the band was very brave the dynamic quality can't be brave unless you're scared yes yeah i guess i was very brave too yes thank you john you were really imagining over there just then remember earlier today when we were taping you talked about my imaginarium and i just watched you imagine i loved seeing john play in his imaginarium and splash around like that it was
Starting point is 00:35:51 so inspiring tony and i both when we're imagining things we squeeze our eyes shut and live uh we squeeze our eyes shuts and we live yeah in separate imaginariums yeah we squeezes our eyes shuts and we think about the thoughts we see things and and here's things you know imagine beautiful the childlike wonder that both of you still bring to this i remember when we started out we had some of that be a better you in 2024 with babble the science-backed language learning app that actually works. Don't pay hundreds of dollars for private tutors or waste hours on apps that don't really help you speak the language. And the question that I always get, people stop me and they say like, Hey, I trust you. I know when you endorse a product, it's something that you really use and care about.
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Starting point is 00:44:27 collaboration oh good comedy casino what do you think when you hear those two words carpeting you know really the direction that I think we were if we we don't have a we don't have a lot for this we mostly just have comedy casino we brought that you know which okay is pretty cool but i do know that we were sort of thinking we were thinking going into more is it like spanish tile
Starting point is 00:45:05 oh i was thinking like comedy baked in a broiler with garlic and bacon and butter okay and that sounded delicious because i just i think if comedy can be edible if comedy can taste good people really that's when they want it i guess again of a we don't have a i just want to address that one before we move to the next one just just so we know just so we're on the same page yeah again we don't have much there will be food the food is is all boiled sorry which one are you addressing the the comedy casino being a comedy that's prepared with like garlic butter and that it's uh hasn't been addressed yet that it's broiled but when i said carpeting that's so that not that's not ever going to get addressed no that
Starting point is 00:46:05 was no we did when hayes said very explicitly like a spanish tile spanish tile right okay that was it that's it that's i'm sorry john that's definitely it we are done with that for sure no hayes let's let this does feel pretty embarrassing for my partner. I know. No, as a favor to you, John, I want you to feel heard. So you had an idea. You just asked what I pictured. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:46:39 And if we're talking about... And then Hayes said he pictured something else. And then Anthony said another idea. I'm sorry, can we just take it back? All of this will be very clear. Can we get a quick time out and I can talk to my partner privately for just a moment? Yeah, let's do that. John, this is like an opportunity that we don't have, okay?
Starting point is 00:46:57 This is a chance to partner with something that's successful. You've already heard about the ads and the music. I don't want to go on tour right now okay i don't think anybody's saying we're going to go on tour i think it's just an analogy that they talked about a bus and having to tune up and everything i'm not ready to do that these guys are i imagine guys are a bus you know i think these guys are like i I don't know, talking. Paul. I think they can hear us, but listen, you're embarrassing me. I am? We're supposed to come in and be confident, okay?
Starting point is 00:47:32 And we could merge. Look at WeWork. These guys want to jump all over everything I say, and you're right there with them, all right? I'm playing the game, baby. What do you want? Do you want to make money? If the game is gang up,
Starting point is 00:47:45 who am I supposed to gang up on? The giggly guy? Yes! Yes! Gang up on him, okay? All right. Maybe it'll get you back in the game. But you've got to gang up with me.
Starting point is 00:48:00 What, what? You've got to have my back. I've got it, I've got it. Ah, he's... Sorry sorry guys he's doesn't understand anything oh it's so fine it's so fine yeah yeah yeah no way does he understand anything okay all right john he's ignorant but look we i think the the food's gonna be boiled you know that's uh thank you for answering my question boiled. You know, that's settled. Thank you for answering my question.
Starting point is 00:48:26 We have a big pot. That's fine. And you're going to spend all day sweeping that floor. Anytime anything falls on the floor, you're going to be sweeping it up, carpeting, you can't see the stains. You're going to be mashing the boiled beans right into your carpet.
Starting point is 00:48:42 Nobody's going to see it because the pattern is so elaborate. The boiled beans are going to dry at the carpet. Nobody's going to see it because the pattern is so elaborate. The boiled beads are going to dry at the carpet. Nobody will see it. Everybody's going to see the spills. I'll know it's there. It's going to be swooshes and cubes. It's going to be all different colors.
Starting point is 00:48:59 I hope it smells very elaborate, too. Yeah, because it's going to be rotten, boiled beans. You've got to pump that oxygen in. You've got to pump that oxygen in. That's not really the direction we were thinking. We were thinking this is going to be more of a nitrogen. Sorry, not the direction,
Starting point is 00:49:18 Tony. Tony took it in the wrong direction. Because it's a comedy. You drove it into a ditch. I'm sorry. We don't have a lot for it. We don't because it's it's a comedy drove it into a ditch yeah i'm sorry yeah i'm sorry we don't have a lot for it we don't really know what it is but we were gonna put helium in we thought it's gonna be a helium casino yeah i'm sorry i'm really embarrassed yeah that's sorry i'm sorry john i didn't mean to embarrass you uh i'm sorry well next time
Starting point is 00:49:45 next time you know don't be such a fuck schmuck I'm sorry and uh you know the bees
Starting point is 00:49:59 he's doing so good you know about what the flowers do this is such a good part of the podcast what he's doing so good you know about what the flowers do this is such a good part of the podcast what he's doing everything you say is just laughable and uh what do you want what do you want from me
Starting point is 00:50:16 we want a cogent idea for comedy casino I'm just gonna bring it back in and say that i like the idea i want the partnership and i know my partner does is embarrassing and and and sort of infuriating as he can be and i just think that there's a lot of opportunity maybe to start in the old strip in Vegas. Uproot everything. Let's cancel all our projects. Go to old Vegas. Get alone.
Starting point is 00:50:50 New bullshit. Shit sucks. Miss me with that shit. Let's buy the old Binions. Let's buy Binions Casino. I love Binions on Showtime. It's my favorite Showtime show. I love Binions. Binions on Showtime. It's my favorite Showtime show. I love Binions.
Starting point is 00:51:06 Binions is so good. That's like me and my buddies. That's your tiny yellow round mobsters running Las Vegas, making lots of money. That's Binions. Binions. And it stars all. The Binions from Despicable Bee.
Starting point is 00:51:39 Yeah. Oh. and it stars all the despicable b you doing okay tony well that's why i talk about is our signature flavor of the podcast which is that we don't shy away from decay and being sick and and getting older uh so uh so many podcasts now dude it's so played out to like be healthy and like yeah and just be talking and not making like other noise you know i know yeah it's no it's all these young healthy noises and it's like it's like the problem with social media these days where it's like you young healthy noises and it's like it's like the problem with social media these days where it's like you're presenting this fantasy yeah that you're not extremely sick right now yes and that's not related to content like that's not that's not my life so then now i feel like shit because i'm listening to like these young studs like Ira Glass or whatever. Oh, yeah. They're like just acting all fucking healthy.
Starting point is 00:52:28 And I'm going like, this is not this is not achievable for a regular American like myself. And I always appreciate when people on Instagram will like post a picture where they're like pretending they're like young and healthy and stuff. And then later being like, just so you know, I was, I was sneezing a lot at the time that I posted this picture. Oh yeah. I was sneezing all the time. I followed this account.
Starting point is 00:52:53 Beautiful, beautiful young woman, incredible beach pictures. I was just, I was really probably obsessively tracking this account. And then finally she posted a beautiful beaches and she finally beaches. Nice. Yeah. Just the beaches, not account. And then finally she posted beautiful beaches and she finally beaches. Nice. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:06 Just the beaches, not her. And then, but you could just tell she was beautiful and healthy and healthy and taught. And in the description, had a great day, woke up, rested,
Starting point is 00:53:19 had a healthy bowel movement. You know, just reporting no problems. I feel free through my nose yeah breathe through my nose uh my hand my hands don't crack uh you know i don't suddenly have a moment where i feel like i lose my breath and maybe a little bit of consciousness and i don't know what's going on it goes away and then i just ignore it because i figure well what am i going to do go to the doctor about everything whites of the eyes
Starting point is 00:53:45 are clear yeah and then you know what made her so relatable was when she she she finally posted a selfie and she was a 98 year old actually one of the last living birkenau survivors and she and she was very sick and had been sick since World War II both mentally and physically with the trauma and what happened to her and it made me feel more connected it makes you sort of stop scrolling, it's not all white noise
Starting point is 00:54:16 now you go, oh good a human being like me her family posted it because she had died the day before at the beach it wasn't as inspiring. It wasn't as brave. It was a brave family, though. That's one of the bravest families I've ever heard about.
Starting point is 00:54:34 Your family is telling your story for you versus just getting out in front of it and saying, I'm sick. That's what I thought i thought i thought coward was the first thing i thought yeah yeah fake fake fake friend fake gamer girl as well yeah total fake gamer girl that can be one of the most frustrating things where you feel like
Starting point is 00:55:00 you're really connecting with someone online uh a girl as you said an attractive young female who's so into games gaming you know these games that i love where i'm shooting puzzles and and then to learn uh that there's no there's no lenses in those glasses yeah and that the um the reflection of the light the game and stuff that she was actually just watching a movie about a game she was watching pixels and there was no game yeah being played uh that can be um pixels is the best of all of them too by the way pixels yeah oh yeah no it's got the most games it says the most games in it and that's how you judge a video game movie if you judge a video game movie you judge it by the number of games mentioned in it well you're gonna see one you're gonna see you know uh
Starting point is 00:55:56 assassin's creed you know they're only doing the one game yeah you're gonna see pixels take your You got to see Pixels. Take your pick, Tolles. Because, you know, Josh Gad's getting sucked off by fucking Q-Bert at the same time that Pac-Man, you know, chomping on Sandler. And you're like, okay, now we're actually, you know,
Starting point is 00:56:20 doing a movie because there's more games. I like The Wizard. Hey, cool, man. Yeah, that's great. Yeah, Fred Savage just really had a problem recently. Is that why you're
Starting point is 00:56:37 bringing him up? Because he had a problem recently? He recently had a problem. You want to either celebrate what he did or dance on the kick someone when they're down is it either for you to yeah what are you doing exactly
Starting point is 00:56:54 John is it that you agree with his behavior or is it that you think he deserves ridicule at his lowest moment go ahead and pick I'm curious to to know i i i just i think i wanted to reference the wizard i mean you're you're on your own partner you're you're on your own i mean they're still remaking the wonder years right like i can't be the i mean it's up to you at this point yeah yeah you have to decide yes so they? So this is what I want to know.
Starting point is 00:57:26 Should they move forward with the project? The Wonder Years? Yes. Well, it's a great opportunity. Hollywood Handbook. That was a Hate Gum podcast.

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