Hollywood Handbook - Kyle Newacheck, Our Close Friend

Episode Date: December 9, 2013

Sean and Hayes remember the late Nelson Mandela during That’s A Wrap and talk about the other side of the business known as The Hobbies. Later, KYLE NEWACHECK (director/star of Workofholics) stops by to speak on his earlier Hong Kong action films, living the studio life, his time as a film teacher, and co-directing an upcoming film with Nathan Lane.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a HeadGum Podcast. losing it and lynch is bugging bussing up and i'm just like oops you're supposed to be quiet in those things you're no kidding hey what up what up what up what up welcome to hollywood handbook and insider's guide to kicking butt and dropping names in the red carpet lineback hallways of this industry we call showbiz i'm hayes davenport i'm here with sean clements what up there's a segment that we truly hate to do which is when we we lose someone in this industry we memorialize them on the we recently had to do it with lewis reed and all too soon we're doing it again with somebody else this is a segment called That's a Rap. And that's what they say at the end of movies.

And yeah. But they also rap mummies. In rap. In rapping. And so that's a rap on a great life lived. And these people who are now mummies. To these mummies who we respect. We lost someone this week

who, in this industry especially, was sort of one of our bright shining stars. He meant a lot to us. It was a guy named Nelson Mandela and he was the star of a movie called Invictus. Little backstory on the star of Invictus. Hayes and I were doing these USO comedy shows. We try to give back to our country when we can.

And we were crushing, busting up troops in a good way, laughter. And coming back from one of the shows, we just had the fever. Like we had really gotten our patter down and we told the helicopter guy, hey, land us right here. We're doing a show right here.

And we landed in somewhere called southern africa which at the time was not even on a map no uh and this is before gps and and we just walked into some local watering hole and started doing our shtick and something felt wrong And we look around and realize only half the people are laughing. It was the black people because they really like me and Hayes. But because they liked it, I'll just say it, the white people wouldn't let themselves crack their whole shit up. The laughs were segregated. The laughs were segregated.

And we said, we got to do something about this. Because if there's one thing that you got to know about Sean and I, it's that we hate intolerance and it makes us so angry when people do that.

When I see intolerance, I want to do something bad, Hayes. I want to do something real bad. I know exactly what you're talking about. And I'm not going to say it on mic, because if I see intolerance again, I might just do it, and I don't want this to be used in court against me.

So we decide we got to do something about this and the way we try to impose change on the world is making movies through movies uh and we were bringing in people to do this movie about sort of like a football that helps apartheid and not doing it anymore and so we should and to be clear we should have gotten a director who understood football better because if you do watch closely, the football scenes in the movie are breaking a lot of the football rules. The football is shaped. The director made his own football, and he comes in with this thing

and is like, do you like it? And it's like this papier-mâché egg. We were so far into the process there was so much more to worry about we just said it was too late to get a real football and he was a sweet kid so everyone's wearing shorts so that's the one misstep but football rules are not the message holds true the movie's called Invictus watch if you haven't watched it but we had to cast a star and we were going for a name at first we went out to a lot of names but then we're auditioning these guys and this person walks

in the room and it's like we're not even there he's doing the scene he's doing the scene where the invictus is closing in on the city and he going to destroy the city with apartheid forever. And I had to know who this guy was because it was like he was living it in front of us. The way he was like, duck! Yeah. And he was like, look out, I'm going to punch the Invictus! And he jumped up and swung in the air. And I swear I heard the thud of him hitting the Invictus in the center of its chest plate.

But that man was Nelson Mandela. And I turned to Hayes and I, and this is true. At the time, Nelson Feinstein. Yes. Hollywood. But I turned to Hayes and I said, this kid's got something. And if we can't get Taye Diggs, Morris Chestnut, Harold Perrineau, or Terrence Howard, we should bring him back in. And look at it now. Apartheid is dead in its grave. And Nelson Mandela became a big star. And then we lost him to a car racing accident this past weekend

and it just makes me it just makes me so angry because i hate crying i fucking hate crying and i get so mad at my eyes for doing tears when I have to bus up in a bad way like this. Then I yell at them and then that makes my throat hurt. And then my throat hurts so bad it makes me bus up crying again. We have a whole show to do. We have a good guest this week, Kyle Nwacek, director and star of the work of Holix is on the show. But before we get into that, we wanted to talk a little about the other side of the business, which is not doing business at all, relaxing and pursuing your hobbies. When I first got into this town,

and I know you were the same way, I was all about the work. Yeah. You know? Nose to the grindstone. Had that little treehouse studio. And I had rented out a submarine. Yep. And we were just... Because I don't want any distractions.

Mm-hmm. Writing pages, making movies, doing scenes every day. And then we realized that wasn't helping our work. It was actually hurting to it. And to be clear, the point where we're realizing this, obviously, we've each made 50, 60 movies, and we have a shit ton of fucking money and success and we're going, this work isn't as good as the first movies we were writing because it's hurting to it that we're spending all our time working and doing none of our time living. So that's when we decided to start developing some hobbies, getting out there, having fun. Because then when you go sit down to write, oh, guess what?

You've actually got something to say. Because, oh, guess what? You've actually done a little bit of something that somebody might find interesting. Because guess what? That's real life, pal, is not sitting in front of a freaking keyboard computer all the time. So let's talk about some of the things that we like to do the most to sort of get out of town when we're not doing our work. For me, I know I like to strap on a snowboard and go snowboarding on a mountain.

on a snowboard and go snowboarding on a mountain. Yeah, and I'm the same way in terms of I strap my feet into the board and I get on the mountain and slide down it on top of the board. All the way down, going so fast, shredding the snow and just waving to some of the other guys saying, see ya, because I'm going real fast. Because I'm going real fast. And if I do a big jumpy, all the better. Because for me, snowboarding is about escape. And what feels more like escape than going really fast and also doing a big jumpy?

I've started doing no gloves because I found that they were kind of slowing me down because my form is like arms straight up and so like they were increasing the friction and so now I take the gloves off and it feels like I'm snowboarding in the fucking sky you know what I mean and like that's exactly what you say I come back to work and now I have a new experience that I can do a movie about. And I'd like to talk about another hobby. Martial arts. Martial arts. The ancient language of punching. The original artists were martial artists and Hayes and I are movies artists, but does

that mean we shouldn't learn any other kind of arts? No. We did a couple movies. We did We Are Marshall about this. Sean does capoeira. I do Muay Thai. Both very balance-based arts and with a dance component. Yes, that was important to me.

Now, when I'm doing a big kick and really smashing a milk carton and making milk go everywhere or whatever I've set on the top of my tall tree stump, I feel like this will show up on the page. And I feel so free when I follow that big kick and I do a fast punch. I feel the same way. What I try to do is... Oh, I'm sorry. And I'm punching the ceramic owl.

Go ahead. What were you going to say, Hayes? What I try to do when I'm in the dojo, when I'm in the dojo swinging a garden hose around as fast as I can, I think to myself, what is the words of this? What is this as words? And then I go home and I try to do the words of the punching. That's so important.

And that came out as small soldiers. There's another, an important distinction we should make is that hobbies and work can sometimes be the same thing, exist on the same field, or shall we say basketball court. Basketball court is the new golf course. This is what we always say. If there's one thing you take away from this show, it's that the basketball court is the new golf course this is what we always say if there's one thing you take away from this show it's that the basketball court is the new golf course it used to be you'd go out on the course with your buddies and your fucking khaki pants and your like white baseball caps fucking argyle sock and your uh goddamn and your fucking wingtips with the tat bottoms.

And your fat fucking privilege. I'm sorry. It's just injustice. I don't know what I'm going to do. It makes my face so fucking red. Oof. That was the old days. Now all you need is a nice basketball hoop

to be able to get out there and not only play games, but also do some good networking. And it started with Obama. Obama had his basketball games where he would bring in some of Washington's thought leaders and play with them. And that's how a lot of policy got made. And that's how a lot of policy got made. Yeah, and not just domestic policy, but also I know that he, Obama did a big, big slam dunk on Kim Jong-il, and that's what killed him.

And so that made some big changes. I know that he dribble-drived on Osama bin Laden and put up a nice tasty little floater that just tickled the twine. And I know that that was part of why bin Laden is zero dark 30, as they say. He's no longer. There are ways to, because when you step on a basketball court in this town, you're likely to see a Faison, a Swartzen, some of these guys who, you know, if you can get a second to deliver them a little pitch, it could be pretty good for you. So there are things you can do to optimize your chances of getting some sit-down time with these guys on the court. Bring a bunch of extra Gatorades. Everyone's thirsty after a basketball game.

Bag of orange slices. One thing I'll do is I will open a power bar and go, why did I open this? I don't even want it right now. I don't want to put it down either. Is anyone hungry? Steal someone's wallet and give it back to them and say you caught the guy that did it. Do a big kick of a milk carton

and blow it up. Start a conversation that way. All these things complement each other. It's all new tools for your tool belt. There's nothing that says you can't use a hammer and a screwdriver at the same time. Anyway, you've probably figured out by now that was a segment that you like that we love to do. And it's called The Hobbies, Desolation of Smaug.

So that was The Hobbies, Desolation of Smaug. We're going to get to Kyle Nuiwicek in one second. We want to do a quick Engineer My Career with Engineer Cody, who's in the booth with us today. Cody, what's going on for you career-wise

these days? Are you making any inroads since the last time we spoke? Do you want to do... Are you sticking in the sound space? Yeah, the space-time continuum. Okay, this is over. We were trying to help Cody, and Cody did a joke.

And there's no need to take a big, fat swing. A lot of times what's funny is just a small reaction, something that people can relate to. But when he says sound space because you're a sound engineer and you say space-time continuum, that big fat swing, I just feel the wind of it whiffing. And I can hear it on the mic too, and it doesn't feel nice. And so that's one of the reasons that we're ending the segment now. And we'd love to do the segment again, but we need to be able to trust you.

the reasons that we're ending the segment now and we'd love to do the segment again but we need to be able to trust you um i'm oh yeah that's just kind of i'm i'm going for it well now you're scared to do anything which is how you should feel all the time we'll be right back with our guest kyle newichek director and star of work of holics on hollywood handbook of Workaholics on Hollywood Handbook. Hollywood Handbook. So I step back from the keyboard, and they're going nuts, they're applauding, and all the anonymous guys take their masks off, and they go, you just hacked the hackers. And I go, I know.

And then what did they do? Bought a pizza. Hey, what up, what up? Welcome back to Hollywood Handbook and Insider's Guide to Kicking Button, Dropping Names, and the Red Carpet Linebacker Hallways of this industry we call Showbiz. We've got an exciting guest today. This is the first director we've had on the show. Exclusively director. Yeah, sure. Everyone. We're both directors. Yes. today this is the first director we've had on the show um exclusively director yeah sure everyone we're both directors yes and everyone we've had on i think has like could do it i think everyone

yeah anybody in this town could direct right do you agree with that kyle i'd have to say yeah it's not it. It's not hard. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you have an opinion, you can do it. That's what it's about, huh? Yeah. Just having an opinion. That's right.

Oh, wow. That's really cool. This is Kyle Niewicek. Hello. Director from Workaholics. Mm-hmm. Many other titles. Like what, Hayes?

Well, I'll let you. We don't want to steal your resume from you go ahead and well let's see here what have I worked on I've done uh I've done workaholics as you said you directed a simple plan a simple plan yep that was me and my brother what else I do well you did a lot of those Hong Kong action films a lot of the do well you did a lot of those hong kong action films a lot of the a lot of the early hard boiled was you hard boiled yep cool hand luke where you ate hard boiled eggs that was kind of an homage to the first title that i did right yeah you were referencing hard boiled which came out later but had been made several years prior right right yeah i kind of like to you to keep through lines of ideas through all of my pictures if you look at

your filmography there's a lot of sort of winks at people who've been keeping track I'm glad that you noticed that a lot of people it slips right by them I enjoy a good wink to the camera and to enjoy Kyle's work and I've said this a lot,

you don't have to be paying attention to all the little details to enjoy it. Right. But boy, does he reward you if you do. If you are paying attention, you're going to walk away smiling. On the rewatch, I find that you're a big rewatch guy. Second time around. Totally. And I mean, you're talking about the second time,

but you should go back and watch it for the eighth time. Is that the one? Yeah, you'll find a lot of hidden gems in there, as I believe Sean knows. Yes, I love the eighth watch, and I'm a big fan of the twelfth watch. And the first three or four, I don't fucking get it. I mean, I'm watching your shit and I'm going what is this

right right right right why did he make it and why is it like this yeah but then what's going on and who are these people well they're the characters in my movie well that's what I found out on around watch 9 yeah it's like you know I like to

around watch 9 10 it's like you know i like to i like to around watch nine ten eleven twelve you kind of recognize the bittersweet nature of everything you know it's a classic rule smile now cry later okay classic classic director rule smile now cry later but I'm saying... Speak on that. I'm saying why not smile now and cry now? And you want both to happen the same time? I want tears to come with laughter.

That's really interesting. I want tears to come with laughter. So yeah, I mean, I'm glad you're fans. Can you talk a little bit about studio life, music brains and studio life, and just sort of your experience? Because I know you woke up this morning in a studio, is that correct?

I did. I woke up this morning and I went out to my home studio. I converted my garage into a home studio, and I was working on a classic waltz that I had written the night before. And then I come here and I'm in another studio. I mean, that's just the Hollywood life, baby. Sound is something that's very near and dear to me. A lot of people think director and they think picture, but I'm here to say that picture is only 50% of the senses used to perceive what I do. So sound is just important.

It's just important. Just as important. It's just important. It's just important. It's just important. It's one of the reasons that you were so mad when you saw the artist. Pissed off. Yeah. Pissed off.

Let them talk. Did they talk in that movie? No. I didn't think so, man. I haven't seen it. I'm sorry. I went along with that one. I haven't seen the artist. And also, you were like, that's me. I'm the artist. Hayes, not right now. Not right now.

And speaking of you being very mad, how pissed off do you get when somebody says that Vine is dead? Oh my God, that is a medium that shall never die. I get mad. I get mad. Yeah, and you have every right to. Yeah, I get mad.

Yeah. You know, six seconds of material, that's all you really need. Some of the best directing gets done on Vine, doesn't it, Kyle? It does. It's like we're back to the 1920s, and the Lumiere brothers just shot that train coming towards the camera. That's right. Speaking of... Do you know the Lumiere brothers?

I do, but not as well as you. And you're something of a film historian. And you've said to me privately that as much as you love the glitz, the glamour, the Hollywood lifestyle, what you're really most passionate about is education. That is correct. Molding the minds of the future is something that I love. I actually was a teacher for quite some time. Right down the street.

Speak on that. Well, you know, there's nothing like making a connection with a student. When finally a technique is learned and you get to watch the excitement on their face when they put it into practice. And all those people at the Los Angeles Film School have gone on to be big directors since then, right? I would imagine so. Who were some of your students? Who were some of the students, the names we would know because they're famous directors now? Was it the Lumiere boys, your Lumiere boys friends?

Wasn't it you that, when you were teaching that class, didn't you teach Tim Burton to be so spooky? when you were teaching that class, didn't you teach Tim Burton to be so spooky? No. Basically, when I taught at the school, I just kind of fucked a lot of my students. Yeah. I was 22, 23.

So that's what happened. Sorry about that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Is that a new MacBook? No. Yeah, I didn't think so. Coffee in there or tea?

Oh, I got coffee. Yeah. Yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah wow i got a gas station on the way here um i'm a slave to this stuff myself coffee yeah yeah i love it i love it actually i got out of the store after i got my coffee and some lady was like can i pay you five bucks to uh help me put air in my tires i was like no you don't gotta pay me five bucks that's ridiculous you know i'll come take a look at it i'm no good at that shit yeah went over there took a look girl's got a big old gash in her tire totally flat i was like i think you're gonna need a little bit more than air yeah air air ain't exactly gonna help sweetheart yeah you're probably gonna probably gonna want to maybe go get a new tire or something that's the city though you know what i

mean like that's that's that's just la that's sort of the quintessential la experience totally yeah yeah it's a small town yeah even though it feels like a big city a lot of times what you find out is that it's a small town. And people talk. And people talk in this city. People do talk. You've got to be careful who's around you. Be careful who's around you. This city has eyes and ears.

And then you've got some exciting stuff in the pike. We usually wait for plugs, but you're doing... Let's lead with the plugs. Yeah, plug first. Toss us a juicy scoop. What do we got? What do we got in the pipeline? We heard, and there's a lot of rumors in this town.

I don't know what holds water and what doesn't. But we heard, and we hope it's true, that you are co-directing something with Nathan Lane. Nathan's a good friend of mine. I've been a fan of his Since Birdcage actually I think he was wonderful In that particular picture And yeah he's stepping up He wants to helm something

So he kind of came to me And asked me if I would Guide him along his journey We are doing A picture About birds Oh okay so he doesn't want to stray too far from the birdcage no no no that's what i thought was interesting about it because the the movie that i really liked him in was called birdcage and again here's our guy nathan lane

wanting to make his directorial debut about birds that fly around Montana. Oh, wow. What a great setting for that. It's cool. So much space for them to fly. Well, the landscape of it is wonderful. You have the mesas that they can kind of graze. We're thinking about putting, this was actually his idea,

we're going to put a lot of GoPro cameras on the birds. Oh, wow. And kind of watch them fly around and whatnot, and then I think we're going to get some helicopter shots. I don't know. I don't know if the studio is going to allow us to do that, but for sure GoPro cameras on birds and watch them fly around, pick up worms,

and, you know, just kind of nest. That's the future of of movies like these little cameras like we're just going to be strapping them to the tops of our heads just going around and and that's the movie yeah well i mean the thing that the other idea that nathan had that i thought was pretty tight was uh he's gonna go milo and Otis on this one. And we're actually going to get Michael J. Fox to voice one of the birds. Wow. I think he wants him to play a hawk or something. I'm not...

Okay. I can't remember. And he's not having been in Milo and Otis. A lot of people don't know this. Michael J. Fox did all the voices originally for Milo and Otis. And then they hired uh i want to say like dudley moore i think it was definitely somebody else and then and then michael j fox was so butthurt that he went and did homeward bound he went and did homeward bound

that is right yep and so now he gets a chance to be in on the ground floor with Nathan Lane's Bird Project, which is cool for him. He's pumped on it. I heard that there was a good phone call between Nathan and Michael. Have you considered letting him do it, then cutting him out of it, if only to create another Homeward Band? You know, that's a great idea. Thank you for that. Yeah, I think I'm going to do that. And then you told me that you

were going to be making a lot of the bird noises yourself for the movie. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think my role in it is not necessarily one of a creative standpoint, except for the sound of the birds. Yeah. Can we get a little taste? Sure. I mean, which bird? One of the ones that graze the maces. Well, when a bird flies and sees something that it wants, and not just any bird, a hawk, it kind of flies down, you know, and gets it in its sights, and then... So that's a hawk that wants something. And I just ducked and covered... You can't see us recording this, but I ducked and covered my head

because I thought a hawk was swooping down and going to hit me. It put me in the mindset of a baby mouse. Mm-hmm. Yeah, yes. Do you want to read mouse yeah yes do you want to read those texts do you want to read those texts out loud for us well i'm so sorry i should have put on vibrate but uh my good friend thomas kellogg is texting me and it looks like he says be there closer to 12 player okay so i got some time um Which other bird would you like to hear? I guess I'd like to hear a big old owl.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Those are very common amongst the maces of Montana. An owl sounds a little bit something like... a little bit something like Now you notice that what I've been working on is the breath that the bird takes prior to the emission of its

voice. And that's the most ignored part. That's most of it. People don't realize that's where it is. If Nathan Lane is going to direct this and I'm going to co-direct it but he's kind of pushing me out right now it's... I mean

then I'm going to latch on to the thing that I'm good at. Yeah. And the thing that I'm particularly good at and what I would love to be better at I'm not saying I'm a pro is birds breaths. So Nathan is starting to flex a little bit on this one? Yeah, yeah.

But I do feel like I'm getting a little bit boxed out. But that's the game. That's the game. When you've got so much star power as Mr. Lane, and he's teamed up with me, just a bitch-ass director from Workaholics. It's tough. It's just tough, Sean.

Hey, hey, hey, none of that talk. No, let him say that. I don't know what I'm... Those aren't my words, those are his. Oh. Nathan has called me up and... You're quoting him, yeah. He called me a bitch-ass director from Workaholics,

and he doesn't need me on the project. But I asked him if I could do the bird sounds, and he said, sure. And then you told me you were going to play Pele in a movie next year. Pele, yeah. The soccer star? Yeah, you said you were going to be him in a movie. That's still early talks, early talks. I haven't even done a lot of character research on that.

But I've been working on my flips from the corner. So, you know, that's one of the first things I like to do when I'm tackling a role of such stature is do the physical work. You know, the physicality of the characters. This is good for people to hear. You know, the physicality of the characters. This is good for people to hear. Kyle is what we call an outside-in actor. He starts with their outside movements. What are they wearing?

How do they walk? And then he internalizes who that is. I like to feel the decisions that the characters make and then ask myself, why? So exactly. That's exactly right. Now, I'd like to double way back for a joke I thought of earlier. When I asked you about your coffee cup and then Hayes said,

oh, I'm a slave to the stuff myself, and you said, oh, a slave to coffee. I almost thought of saying, I heard that movie 12 Years a Slave is about a cup of coffee. Oh. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, not bad. Oh Yeah Yeah yeah not bad

That was tight Sean Yeah I mean it moved on pretty fast beyond that But um I'd been sitting on it and uh You know Why not let you guys In You got any other jokes from

two years ago, Sean? Did you see Bridesmaids? I did. Saw it in the theater with my girlfriend and my little brother. Good, huh? Yeah! You know, yeah. Yeah, yeah, it was. It was really good.

It was a good flick. You know, it's good to see that women can be out there making us laugh. I didn't even think about it that way. Yeah, that actually was the first time I thought I even heard that. To me, it's just a movie. Just a normal movie. That was good. People being funny.

Yeah, I mean, women being funny. Yeah, but that's... I guess there was some dudes in it, too. Probably, I think that's the least important thing about it, from where I'm coming from. Oh. Yeah, I guess I was the dudes in it too. I think that's the least important thing about it, from where I'm coming from. Oh. Yeah, I guess I just thought that it was one of the first... Go ahead, yeah.

No, it's okay. You can go ahead. No, I guess if I'm laughing, like if I'm laughing and laughing, to me, it doesn't matter. Did a man make me laugh or did a it doesn't matter did a man make me laugh or did a woman make me laugh

it's just it's just all I know is I'm laughing this movie's funny I totally understand where you're coming from I mean I'm just

I guess all I'm saying is a lot of times it's the man that makes me laugh. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. You know, a ton of times it's the man that makes me laugh.

Yeah. Did you see the heat? Yeah. Another good example of women making you laugh. It was good. Yeah, it was solid. It was good. It was good.

Solid piece of business as well. Solid, solid flick. Solid, solid flick. Very well Solid flick Very good business Very good business Ended up with a nice figure Nice little chunk of change You know that's something that's very important In this town

Is the figure The money that the movie actually makes A lot of people think They come to Hollywood and they think Oh it's my time to be creative. It's my time to take what's in my dream and put it on the screen. Not true. Catch the next bus, buddy.

Yeah, give that up real quick. It's all about the suits. Take that to friggin' Austin or some other crunchy granola town. Some freako artist scene. Yeah, go screen it in a movie theater for like 16 people if that's what you want. At the Alamo Drafthouse.

Totally. Sixth Street. This is all about the money, man. I mean, that's the BS part of it. And you really love money a lot, and you've told me this, that you love to just buy things just to feel power. Yeah, it's something that my grandmother taught me. It's called retail therapy.

If I'm feeling down, feeling in a hole, I head out and I buy myself some shoes. If I'm feeling worse after that, I buy another pair of shoes. And then after that, I'll buy a big ass dinner you know at the most expensive place in hollywood tell us about the restaurants that you well we should like for people in like the flyover country and stuff a restaurant is like somewhere it's like a food store it's like the food stores that you have yes yes but they actually cook the food there and then there are tables and people carry it over to you almost like you know how your um grandma or your or your wife maybe is bringing the food to your table you know how like when they ring that triangle for you to eat, like when a woman in your family goes on the front porch and rings the triangle,

like here, we just go to these places and we sit down at a table and they bring us food. But go ahead. Go ahead. You were telling us about some of the restaurants you've been to. Oh, yeah. I mean, around here. Are you sure they know what I'm talking about if I talk about this? It's not for them.

It's honestly, it's almost more fun, I found, for them to not really know what's going on and to just kind of imagine what it's really like. That's what they say in the message boards and stuff. They say, like, I couldn't actually follow what you guys were talking about, but I still had a great time. Okay. Keep it up. Love the show.

Five star rating. I still had a great time. Keep it up. Love the show. Five-star rating. Well, I mean, down on the corner of Sunset and La Brea, there is a really wonderful place called Chick-fil-A. Very good. Very, very, very good.

Tasty, tasty, tasty. And it's also consistent with your anti-gay political views, right? Yeah. Oh. Okay. I mean, do you want to get into that? Yeah. Yeah.

I don't think this is the place. I don't think people would understand where I'm coming from on that one. There's also, that's about it. I mean, I eat at Chick-fil-A. That's the main restaurant. That's it, yeah. Yeah, I feel like that's true for a lot of us. Yeah, it's a solid, solid spot.

They got a ton of different sauces. I like that's true for a lot of us yeah it's a solid spot you know they got a ton of different sauces I like that I'm a sauce guy I'm a freaking sauce guy you know I think I heard that

about you yeah BBQ give me more BBQ you know sounds familiar yeah ring his bell

hey sauce him you know well Kai guy thank you so much for coming down here and uh educating us a little bit about what the cameraman does and how and how he makes the camera go and that's not my job and yes we you made that clear i mean i a camera, but it's not my job, man. Right.

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