Hollywood Handbook - Live from Onionfest
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This is a HeadGum Podcast. Small, small, small Here comes his intro
So I'm on the plane
With Roz
Pike
Yes You know Roz with Roz, Pike.
Yas.
You know Roz.
Rosamund.
Pike.
Pike.
Pike.
Yeah.
And,
Jack Reacher.
The age-appropriate love interest for Tom Cruise and Jack Reacher.
Yes.
Yes.
And, Sean, my best friend.
Who's that?
Are you here?
And we're on the plane to New York, and I'm looking out at these fields.
And it looks like there's like corn and
beans.
And we're on that, because we're on
the plane.
The plane.
And it goes from LA and it goes to New York.
It goes from LA to New York. It goes back to LA. It goes back
to New York. And I'm looking at these
beans
and I yell up to the pilot.
Do you remember what you said to me?
You went, you said, yes.
He goes,
are those beans?
Well, I know
who to ask. Yeah.
If that's beans.
Yeah.
And I
scream up to the
cockpit.
I say,
Duncan!
His name is Duncan Donuts.
And I asked him,
I was like,
oh, like the place, and he had heard of Duncan,
he like knew Duncan Donuts.
He knew the place a little.
The place,
but had never made the connection before.
He went, oh,
I guess that is like my name.
Oh, yeah.
He said, I've got no
apostrophe.
Right, but you can tell.
But you're still spelling it
D-U-N-K-I-N. Yes.
So isn't that... But the way he said i've got no apostrophe
was because he was processing it for the first time he's like well i've got no apostrophe like
it was just going through it yeah it's sort of going like well it was sort of it's sort of a
stretch yeah and it's like i don't think so duncan it was cool but that was earlier now I'm saying, Duncan, can you put it
down? Can you put this plane down?
Bring us down on these beans.
And he said,
well, no.
We go to New York. This is the plane.
The plane goes to New York.
Yeah, he said, if you want to go there, you need to get
like a bus.
Yeah.
And I was like,
no, like you can,
like let's try it.
Let's just try it.
You can do the plane
on the beans.
Yes.
So he starts to
do the down part.
And Roz is like,
I have a fair,
you know,
business to,
like a Gone Girl musical or something.
And so she deploys a blaster and rides the blaster to New York.
We start going down.
And I see there is people who live in the beans.
Once we get closer, you can see that some of the bigger beans were hair.
And I can see that the people down there
do not know what a plane is.
I've never seen it before.
Well, yes, and the famous story, of course,
of the ships, Columbus and the ships,
and the natives looking out,
and their eyes couldn't see the ships
because it was so foreign.
And that is what we were experiencing,
seeing in the eyes of these beans,
which now are revealed to be people,
that they are sort of like not able to even fully fathom
what is coming at them.
Some people can see it
and hold their hands up like they're trying to catch it.
Mm-hmm.
The others,
we get all the way down,
and some people can't see it, and they bonk into it.
Yeah.
Drilled their noggin.
Yeah.
Kabom.
And tried to make it look...
Freak their bean in a bad way
instead of
the bean freaking
that they were doing
as their job
right before that
and they
tried to act like
they'd bought
into it on purpose
and the bean freaking
this maniac
was doing in the hotel
last night
okay thank you we're sharing a room was doing in the hotel last night.
Okay.
Thank you.
We're sharing a room.
Nah, but he's a madman.
He's insatiable.
Nah.
You know what I mean? I'm going to ask the ocean to stop flowing.
It's like, yeah.
Some stuff, it's a loss, man.
You just wash your hands of it. You go, look,
I'm going to ask the sun not to come up tomorrow.
It's like, the guy's going to freak beans.
No, I love him, though. He's a maniac.
He's out of control.
I'm on vacation.
Yeah.
I noticed.
And so we come out of the plane, and we're in Chicago City.
Woods or something.
Yeah.
Chicago City.
Yeah.
Is that where we are?
Hi.
Welcome to Hollywood Handbook. An insider's guide to kicking butt and dropping names in
the red carpet linebacker hallways of this industry we call showbiz.
The Chicago one.
The Chicago City Edition.
Yes.
This is exciting for us to be here and it's an onion thing.
Or something.
Yeah.
I think for us, I'm looking at the lineup
and I think they wanted us just to add a little diversity.
Not everyone quite so white.
Give us a call.
Yeah, let's get these guys.
You know, Hayes,
it's funny for me to be here
because I did
read a little bit about
Chicago City before I came.
Oh, you're going to do this?
Oh, I don't know.
And I heard this rumor
and maybe people can tell me if it's true, Oh, I don't know. Okay. And I heard this rumor. Okay.
Maybe people could tell me if it's true.
But I heard that Chicago City,
that y'all can get a little funky down here.
Is that true?
He's playing.
He's just like playing around.
He's kidding.
But I mean, I don't know if you do want to give him a yes, yes.
Now I heard that in this other article I read that these Chicago City folks can get a little nasty.
Is that true?
And he's just
like, this is just like, we're just walking around
and he is like talking about doing stuff
like this today. And I don't know if he's actually gonna
do it.
Oh, we're doing it. Yeah.
Because we just like make observations
about the city as
we're like doing our thing.
Well, I guess I did notice some stuff.
Like, Chicago City, the sidewalks are a little weird here.
Yeah.
Did you notice that?
You gotta do one of these.
We see you guys walking around doing one of those.
And possibly, if you know what we mean,
you might want to give them a yes, yes.
You see...
Chicago City's kind of crazy.
Some of these restaurants are strange, huh?
Great big menu
for a little tiny egg.
Is that
like the Chicago eggs
that you guys
do? These little eggs?
With a huge menu.
I don't know.
I don't know. It doesn't add up.
But, Hayes,
did you notice this
about Chicago City
that everybody's got
these blue pants on?
You know the ones.
And honestly,
they got me doing it.
Uh-oh.
When in Chicago City.
Yeah.
No, but it's pretty crazy.
I tell you, this city's a little unusual to me, Hayes.
Yeah, like, tell me what you mean.
Some of these buildings I see in Chicago City got these clocks on them.
Yeah.
Excuse me, Mr. Building, what time is it?
I don't think so. Or it's a watch. me, Mr. Building, what time is it? I don't think so.
Or it's a watch.
Oh, no.
A whole building on this, on your arm.
He can't read that.
And he is just kidding.
It's just like funny stuff we see we're going around.
Well, you know, it's sort of my job to notice things.
And it's not really a normal city, is it?
Chicago City
And you guys say like, what normal is it?
Because it's different
Yeah, I'm glad to see they didn't lie to me
About your nasty, funky ass Chicago City
Some of these tall chairs.
I'll sit back down.
And so now you guys see,
you can feel how warmed up you are,
how you feel like we have a kinship with you.
We know you.
We're teasing you,
but you can tell we like you guys.
Right.
And we're saying all these things about the city. We didn't go outside.
We don't know any of this. Not one minute.
No. We were in the bathtub at the hotel
because we're scared to do this show.
It's as scary for us
as it is for you.
Scarier. Scarier.
And we did
land and went directly to the tub.
Mm-hmm.
And tried to sort of soak the fear out.
But now there's this thing where we sort of own you all.
We possess you.
Mm-hmm.
Because...
And you can laugh at yourselves.
Yeah.
And that's my kind of crowd.
I love that about you.
I love that.
I love that Do we want to
Bring out our special guest
Yeah
Yeah
Get excited
Get excited
It's gonna be good
Raise expectations
We talked about who to have on the show,
and we went through some different people who were famous,
and eventually we decided to bring someone out
who is a very good friend of the show.
A little more part of the family of the show.
A little part of the family,
and he's not exactly a human being,
family, and he's not exactly a human
being.
And he does have fur
on his face and his body.
Uh-huh.
And he's got a big bushy
tail.
And he likes to say, woof, woof.
Uh-huh.
And he eats dog
food.
Yeah, and he's friends with dogs.
All his friends are dogs, except for us.
They know him.
Yeah.
And he's made out of dog.
Yeah.
Should we just bring him out?
Let's bring him out.
Bosh, can you come out here, please?
Get out of here, boy.
Bosh the dog is here. Hey, this is Bosh.
Get your mic. Get your mic.
Get your mic.
Do it fast, but still be a dog.
Hurry up.
Is there a chair?
This is all going to be dead air.
A chair, not a stool.
You can't sit like a dog in that.
Hey guys, Chef Bosh here.
Hey, Bosh. Hey, Bosh.
Hi, Bosh.
Thanks for coming on the show.
Stop, stop.
Stop.
So, uh...
I think some of our guests,
our friends here
are probably wondering
what it's like to have such a nice dad.
Yeah.
Maybe you could get into a little bit some of the nice things that your dad has done and what he's like and how he's nice.
Okay, he takes me on long walks and gives me good treats and brings me to the podcast and rubs my belly.
The tone is weird.
It's just like...
Okay, he...
He doesn't believe it.
He doesn't...
It's all with a question.
It's all with a question.
Yeah, you know how Bosh is like fucking cool?
That he's nice,
but be like
whatever about it.
Yeah, he takes me
on walks or whatever.
Same.
Don't do the same shit.
Uh,
I go on walks. Not with like a childlike wonder, please.
Cool.
That's not cool.
With a childlike wonder?
Not with that.
I go on walks.
Yes.
He's seen some shit, man.
That's cool.
Okay.
We have to figure out how this is going to work.
Kevin, look at me, please.
Thank you.
So obviously you know why you have to be a dog.
Yes.
Do you want to say why instead of just saying yes?
I tried to book a guest for this show and I couldn't find anyone.
How many people would you say got asked to be a guest on this show?
Just by me?
Start with you.
Yes, we'll start with you.
Okay, I asked five people.
Okay.
Okay, and was it your job to find a guest?
Yes.
And was that enough people to ask?
No. And some of them are kind of pairs
so that might
be closer to four and a half
yeah you're right
well you get a chair get something
this is I can't keep doing
this but sit like a dog
yeah but don't get hurt a dog.
Yeah.
But don't get hurt.
Okay.
Fine.
Okay. So you didn't try very hard and you failed.
So now
obviously you have to be a dog so we have a
good guest for the show.
Can you walk us through a little bit of your process?
Okay.
Well, I asked you guys last week
and I started with a joke.
Neither of you responded. Well, let's see if the audience thinks it's a joke.
Well, it was a request, I guess.
I sent you guys a tweet from Threedom.
They said, we won't make any more episodes
unless you like us first and Hollywood Handbook second.
And then I said, in case you guys want to knock this one out of the park.
Yeah, now, what did you mean?
That tweet was in response to a tweet which I could not see in the text.
Yeah.
Which was like, hey, make more Threedom.
It's my favorite thing after Hollywood Handbook.
Yeah, and I thought maybe you guys were going to tweet like,
yeah, nice try, they'll never.
We're going to go, it's worth our time to go in
and engage with the Threedom Twitter account.
It's probably you.
It's not Scott or Paul.
No, it's not.
Can't you see him being like,
oh, I'll really get something going here.
Hey, you got it.
Yeah.
Yes.
Yes.
You're orchestrating the whole thing.
And I got to say,
we're starting from a position of winning.
Like, like someone has said,
I like Hollywood Handbook better than three to,
which never happens.
Like that's where, and we're gonna now
jump in.
And then we're gonna have Paul,
because you know Paul is gonna be in there
one second after we are.
And then he's gonna sick his, like,
1.2 million followers on us.
What's your plan?
Have a plan.
I mean, what was, was like what was your example
your example was
you could have gotten in
and gone yeah right
nice try
I'm tweeting that
so anyway
great start to you
getting a guest for our show
so I asked
I can totally not see
how we ended up
in the position
we're in right now
with how you started I can't imagine that we ended up with you being a dog on the show.
And please never forget that his description of that text was,
I started with a joke.
Yes.
Neither of you responded.
Which is a fair thing to say about 80% of the texts we get from Kevin.
Against my better judgment, I really thought it was going to be a joke,
and I will never make that mistake again.
So I asked if you guys wanted John Hodgman, because he was doing his show.
Pretty good guess.
Yes.
We do.
The answer is yes, we do.
Don't waste time.
Absolutely, we said.
So then I said, Hodgman is not in Chicago on Thursday.
I'll think of some more people.
What was the response?
No response.
No, no, no, not from us.
I know we didn't respond.
Oh.
You weren't asking anything.
Yeah.
What am I supposed to say?
Thank you?
You did nothing.
You hurt us.
You hurt the show.
What was John Hodgman's response?
He was, someone
responded to the booker, John Hodgman is in
New Hampshire on Thursday doing an event for
his book. Okay.
His book is set in Maine.
I seriously wonder if I had
responded and encouraged you if I would
have like started this chain where you just started texting me other people who aren't in Chicago.
Because any kind of attention at all would have just been such a high for you.
Also, that book came out like three years ago.
But it is the beginning of summer and it is a summer vacation book so I can see him wanting to cash in on that.
So then I asked,
should I ask Manzoukas or Shear?
Yeah! Hey, great!
And then Sean said,
should I say what you said too?
What did I say? Hang on.
Sorry, I'm trying to see.
Is this in the same spot?
Am I looking at the right thing?
Yeah, where you said that.
The Magic Tavern thing?
Yeah.
I just wanted to make sure.
Yes, I said our Magic Tavern friend is out to TJ Jagadowski for us.
Why did you think that was too sensitive to say out loud?
I guess I
appreciate it. I mean, it seems like it's
fucking up the timeline a little bit of what we were trying to
do here. That's why I asked.
Okay.
So now you've done that.
You fucked it up.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, okay.
Okay, so...
So I guess skip it.
Okay.
So then Sean suggested people
and then I sent them a screenshot
from an advertiser who wasn't happy.
That's true.
And I got to say, we really appreciated the tone of that.
Yeah, they were very nice about saying, please stop doing the ads like that.
Yeah.
First time that's happened, that we read the email, we were like,
wow, this is such a nice email asking us to not do the only thing that we do.
Yeah.
You guys didn't respond
to that.
We're together.
And then I said,
just so you know, you have an hour and ten minutes
each, and Manzoukas,
his assistant, responded,
uh, let me find it.
She said,
hey Kevin, sadly,
Jason won't be in Chicago until Friday, so he won't be able to make it. Thanks said, hey Kevin, sadly Jason won't be in Chicago until
Friday, so he won't be able to make it.
Thanks for asking.
You had a follow-up to that?
Yeah.
Okay.
You don't try to parlay these
emails with assistants into some
side thing for you, do you?
Because that should
be the end.
I said said thank you
And then I saw that
I could see him typing out and deleting
A wink emoji
Not yet
In due time.
And then I asked you guys
if you wanted
Danielle and Casey
because they're doing
bitch sesh.
Yeah, monster show.
Oh yeah, you asked us that?
Actually, we asked you
for that.
No, I think...
Yeah, like six months ago.
I asked first
and then you guys said
could we get Danielle and Casey and I first, and then you guys said,
could we get Danielle and Casey,
and I just let you think you guys came up with the idea.
Because I said, I shouldn't have said that, I'm sorry.
Now I'm in a position where the only guest we have for the show is dead.
Very sad for me.
Our guest died.
You're dead.
Yeah.
Walked right out on stage.
Hung himself in front of me.
Oh, wait, no.
Gave him just the teeniest bit of rope.
Don't know how he pulled it off.
I've never seen Kevin laugh exactly like this.
No one at home listening will be able to see the face,
but it's like this.
It says this, he has like severe stomach cramps
Wait you're right
You asked Casey and Danielle
I'm wrong however
You're alive
I'm alive
We can maybe edit this part out too
They've
Been unavailable so many times
that I didn't even offer them.
What do you want to edit this out of?
Who are you scared of finding out
other than the people you just told?
What do you want?
You lied!
I forgot.
Because I was, well, as most of my memory,
I'm so used to offering them,
and they're always unavailable.
But they're here, right?
He doesn't know!
No, they are.
They're not here today.
So I did ask.
I did ask.
After you suggested.
Whoa.
I normally would have asked,
but because they're normally unavailable, I didn't.
Am I in a dream?
I think he's...
I don't know exactly what the details of this are,
but I think he's running game on us.
I haven't, like, read the books,
but what I've heard about it...
Yeah.
This is what it is.
Yeah, like, I'm definitely doubting myself.
Yeah.
And I need to find someone
to give me some
kind of foundation.
Chef
Kevin?
Okay, so we're through
about five people being asked,
right? Well, and then I saw
Paul Scheer was recording in L.A. today,
so he was the fifth who was unavailable. Didn't ask, right? Well, and then I saw Paul Scheer was recording in L.A. today, so he was the fifth who was unavailable.
Didn't ask, sounds like.
Because he's in L.A., yeah.
Okay, but the implication was that you asked.
And that you had suggested these people as, like,
do you want me to ask them?
But they were recording shit at Earwolf, where you work, in L.A.
Well, it was after the fact.
What time was his record?
Three o'clock today.
Okay, that would be tight.
We're gonna be cutting it really close.
Flies out of Burbank?
Out of Burbank?
Maybe.
We'll never know Well
How long was the record?
An hour
Yeah, it's gonna be tight
And then plus ads
They have to do
90 ads
For whatever episode they were doing
that week.
Well.
And that's it? Oh yeah.
That's five. That's it. That's all you.
Yeah. Which ended up being three
because you definitely didn't ask
the bitch sesh. Well, really
two because you didn't ask Paul Sherry either.
So earlier
you said you asked five people and that was 60% a lie.
So you asked two people.
And this is what we're dealing with.
I can't believe I let you be Bosch even for a second.
I have to apologize to my dog now.
Disgusting.
Well, so then we did, I did go and go hunting around for a guest myself.
Yeah.
And I went to our Magic Tavern friend.
Arnie Kneekamp.
I guess he's like a Chicago guy or something.
So, woo.
Nice.
We like him.
He is a guy who is our friend,
who we met one time,
and you heard all of it.
Uh-huh.
You've heard my whole relationship with him.
So at this point,
I, having zero faith in Kevin,
slid into his DMs.
And basically said, you know,
person who did us a favor once by being on our show,
here's the rest of your day.
Can you take on the job of an assistant
and start aggressively calling in favors
for our show.
This is something I did.
And you know why?
Because he seemed so nice.
Yeah.
I thought, I think he'll do it.
We asked if there was anyone good that he might recommend.
Just somebody funny in Chicago
that we wouldn't know necessarily
that you can connect us to, but really
go out and find someone to be a guest
in our show. And he mentioned
five people, and instead of
saying, no, no, no,
or maybe only ask this one person,
we were like, great.
Please.
Well,
none of them wanted to do the show.
He reached out.
Let's go down the list.
He reached out to TJ Jagodowski.
Very funny man. Very's go down the list. He reached out to TJ Jagodowski. Mm-hmm. Very funny man.
Very busy man, I understand.
And he's freaking sipping diamonds out of a big Sonic cup.
He's busy.
That's in there.
It's melted diamonds.
When you watch the commercial,
that's the only thing he can drink now.
Reached out to Peter Sagal.
Peter Sagal from?
Wait, wait.
I don't know what we would have done, but.
That would have been cool.
He's a busy guy, Peter.
Yeah.
No can do.
Went out to Max Temkin.
Max Temkin.
The creator of Cards Against Humanity.
Yes.
That's what we said.
Partly from being
excited to have him,
partly from being scared
because he made these cards
that are like
the most,
basically the most dangerous
things in the world.
And what came back from him
was not that he was busy,
was that he would not
do the show,
and that he would like a comp.
Yeah, so we're thinking,
I just want to take a picture of Kevin
completely checking out in the middle of the show.
There's a photo from our live show,
the typewriter one, where I'm talking,
and Natalie and Sean are paying attention,
and you're literally texting.
I don't want to hear this.
I'm doing a show right now.
What am I going to air out on stage
in Chicago?
A photo from a live
show two months ago.
That's a good way to use my time
on mic.
We see that the Cards Against Humanity guy
does want to comp and we think, oh, well, we can get more out of Arnie now.
We can maybe still convert this into something,
even though the guy said no.
So we ask Arnie, can you please go back
to the Cards Against Humanity guy?
Say we have a funny idea for him.
We were excited to have him come in.
He literally won't have to do anything, try to be funny.
He can just sit on stage and say no while we
pitch him new funny card games.
Yes.
Thank you.
Yeah, what a good idea for an episode.
And imagine it with
Max Temkin.
And when
we have an idea like that, we
really don't want to let it go
because another one is not coming.
Look at what we're doing right now.
Yes.
Dog with a bone.
And so Arnie goes back to...
The next message we get from Arnie is,
Max has gone dark.
So that's one relationship that Arnie no longer has.
Yep.
We were like... Rich guy probably could have really done some good stuff that Arnie no longer has. Yep.
Rich guy probably could have really done some good stuff for Arnie.
He may work with him.
And we were like, hey, your friend, go press on him.
The thing he's told you he's uncomfortable with, insist.
Again, we've only met Arnie once.
But man, did we like the idea.
And we were like,
you just did the show, so we don't want to inconvenience you, Arnie,
by asking you to do the show again.
We'll ask you to do this thing
that is much worse
and less fun.
Uh-huh.
We're not here much.
But yeah, here we are.
And so some of the stuff we were thinking.
Well, here's what we kind of think.
Yeah.
All this failure gave us some ideas.
And I don't know necessarily if Max did get the cop in coming.
If he's here, thank you for coming.
We love our fans.
He is here!
Ha ha ha!
Don't shake your head.
I know he is.
Max.
Do you want?
Okay.
Okay.
Let's make a deal. Let's make a deal.
Let's make a deal, okay?
Uh-huh.
You just come up on stage and be... Okay, I know, I know, I know, I know.
And just be...
He's a good-looking guy.
Better than I thought.
Yeah, nice.
Like a game designer.
That's nice what I got,
what we got going on over here.
I'm expecting something
to like ooze up here.
Okay.
Uh-huh.
Max comes up
and you sit in total silence.
That's okay?
Yep.
Hey!
Hey!
Woo!
Hey guys, it's Hayes.
Just jumping in here real quick.
So that is not him.
We were informed after the show that whoever got up on stage was not the
Cards Against Humanity guy.
He did raise his hand when we asked if the Cards Against Humanity guy was there, but it is not the guy.
A little later on, he does offer some clues that it's not him, but at that point, I think we were very excited and did not want to hear them.
So, enjoy. were very excited and were did not want to hear them.
So enjoy.
And I, the star of the show, I'm getting a chair. And now...
Okay.
Sorry.
If you ever do want to talk,
which, again, you do not have to.
That's part of the deal.
And I don't care if you really are, Max.
You did a little, like, hand raise.
I'm saying I don't care.
As long as people think you are.
Okay.
What do you think it means when I'm doing this?
I need a little bit of focus for a second.
You forgive me.
You know how excited I am.
I have some unfinished business, but this is about Max.
Okay.
You're right.
Max spoke to me off mic when he got on stage.
As Hayes was getting the chair.
And he pointed out some unfinished business
that's bugging him.
And maybe it's bugging some other people in the audience,
so I'm going to clear it up right now.
What up, what up?
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
See, imagine if you hadn't shown up.
How did you get a comp?
Did Arnie just give you a comp?
He's not allowed to do that.
Arnie asked Max.
Max, I guess, went dark,
and he reached out to his other friends
and didn't even tell Arnie that he was going for the comp,
but I got it.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Okay, so this is why...
Max did do work.
But Max would say
I did that.
Max would not...
You said that Max did that.
But you are Max.
Yeah, yeah.
I got the count.
Okay, good.
Again, I don't care if you are Max.
But for the fiction of the show,
you have to...
When you're talking about Max,
you have to say,
I.
Or like,
I am Max and I did this.
Yes.
Can you give him your mic, Kevin?
You're just sitting there.
He is talking.
Fucking God.
This is like,
this is magic happening right now.
And there's just a loose mic
hanging limply.
Kevin, what if the next big game
was going to be created
right here on this stage tonight
and you blew it?
And people can only hear the sound of that happening
bouncing off the stage into your...
It was a flaccid dick mic.
That's what you were doing.
Now, I don't love that stuff, but...
Well, it's because Max is here.
It's, you know, it's Cards Against Humanity.
And I gotta say,
this guy's a maniac.
I can ask the Earth to stop turning on its axis.
So let me tell you a little something
about legend status.
Max was an advertiser on our show.
Did you even know that?
Yes, I asked you not to play an ad.
Yes.
Yeah.
You should have other people do that kind of thing.
That's my idea.
You have to draw the cards or whatever.
And yeah, this guy's paying all this money.
And he's like, I'm all the way here.
And I'm writing stuff down on paper even.
But what I'm writing is, don't even do the ad.
Mm-hmm.
Read this part.
And do you remember what we did?
You freaked out a little.
Yeah, yeah.
After a while, it was getting...
We got pretty scared.
Yeah.
At first, it was cool, but then...
Then I started to get pretty freaking scared.
Yeah.
The first one, we managed to roll with,
because we talked about it a while beforehand,
just like what we were going to do.
Oh, yeah.
With this ad that's supposed to be an ad,
but it's not even an ad.
Which is chill as hell.
Yes.
But then you refused to stop.
You kept doing it.
You kept doing it.
We were forced to use the ad space
to advertise our own products.
I believe one of them was the star shower.
Yes.
Which was an attachment for your hose
that makes the water look like a star.
Right?
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Because we had this free space.
I'm just going to do nothing with it.
I'm hanging on to this thing and it's gold.
I'm not just going to, that's a Rod Blagojevich joke for you.
And so we had some ideas for games.
Yeah. We had some ideas for games. Yeah, and I can't stress enough that just because we did not necessarily know or think Max would be here
does not mean that we now will have to make up games on the spot because we prepared nothing.
Yes.
It might feel that way, and that's just credit to our extemporaneous delivery.
But I will be saying all games that are very well thought out.
Yeah.
That would work.
So my first game idea is called Who Said That?
So me and Hayes would each have like a cup.
And we'd be talking into the cup so you can't really see our mouths.
Okay.
Yeah.
All right.
He's laughing.
He wasn't really doing it in the mic, but he was loving it.
Loving this.
And maybe you have like a big cup over your head or something.
Yeah.
And then you have to guess who said that.
And you got
two cards
which is kind of
your thing.
And one says Sean
and one says Hayes.
Yeah.
But you can't see
the cards.
No.
But you point at
Because then you could see
me and Sean.
Which you'd probably
give away who's talking.
It's true.
And what we say, too,
is like so crazy.
Oh.
Yeah.
Could be anything.
It's like about wanting to like...
I don't even want to say this,
but like kiss Bin Laden.
And that's what one of them could be. Not that one. Like, I don't even want to say this, but like, kiss Bin Laden. Oh!
And that's what one of them could be.
Not that one.
But like, something that is like, like, like, fucked.
Something that's completely fucked.
Yes.
Something that, if I played at Thanksgiving with my family, would just be fucked.
Yes. Except they would just be fucked. Yes.
Except they would also be loving it.
There's actually only one person that would play this game at Thanksgiving with their family,
and it's the mayor of Zero Fucksville.
So, to summarize,
the game is called...
Who said that? Who said that?
Who said that?
It's me and Sean.
We are holding cups over our mouths.
And the cups can be made of cards.
The cups could be made of cards.
You kind of bend them up.
You bend one card up, and you put another card under that.
And it is a cup at that point.
And you are also wearing a bucket over your head
that I guess could also be cards.
Cards, yeah.
Yeah.
If you have like extra cards, it could be the bucket.
This is your stuff.
What's the bucket made of is like, this is where you,
you'll run with that.
We're not off it.
We don't know.
And we're saying stuff that is the most fucked shit.
And your job,
and there are two cards that say Sean and Hayes,
and your job is
to figure out who said that.
And so that's a game.
I think that's a great idea.
Okay, good.
Wow, cool.
Okay, great.
Wow.
You almost wonder if we even pitch another game.
Yeah.
Quit while you're ahead.
Do we quit now?
Am I too busy to be in every one of these games I'm also worrying about?
We might want to have a game
that maybe people could play even without us.
As I'm thinking about my schedule,
every time someone plays this game,
I am there.
That's going to be insane.
So if Max is wearing the bucket
and he's guessing every time,
whether it's me or you,
what is the person who bought
the game? I guess they're watching. It sounds fun.
Yeah.
Well, because they can be like, somebody's got to be
there to go, hey, you're wrong.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And also, somebody asked to be able
to tell us when to draw the line in terms of
some of the fucked up shit we're saying.
Yes.
Yeah.
Definitely.
Like, we will be talking about, like, my favorite movie is the Trump piss tape.
Okay.
Best movie of all time.
Not that, but like...
No, I wouldn't say that.
Yeah.
I don't even know what that means.
I can pitch another game.
Yes, please.
This one is called Kevin's Parade.
The game is,
Kevin has made his X-Men card,
so they stand up.
He has cut...
It's not easy, but he's taken plastic bottle caps
and cut a line through the middle
of the bottle cap so he can stand up
the X-Men card in the bottle cap.
And he is making them
march...
along his driveway.
And they are singing a song
called Kevin's Birthday.
So, to review.
The game is called Kevin's Parade.
Kevin has to whip his X-Men cards.
They are marching his driveway singing a song called Kevin's Birthday.
And you may notice that it does involve cards.
I do.
I do.
Now, I'm curious.
Do we want to let Maxway in first
Before you
I know yours went well
And you couldn't stand me
Having one
Like fraction of the success
That you've had
But if we just want to
See where it goes
Sorry
I think we could do A lot of expansion packs Thank you Yes But if we just want to see where it goes. Sorry.
I think we could do a lot of expansion packs.
Thank you, yes.
I was going to get to those.
Yeah.
That's good business.
Here, I mean, so,
and the obvious question that I'm thinking as I'm asking this is,
where are me and Sean?
Yeah. Who's going to buy this game it's Kevin it's just
like on his driveway
just I mean and
I don't know the song Kevin's
Parade no Kevin's birthday
I don't know Kevin's birthday I don't know that the game is called Kevin's Parade yeah okay but well we're not singing the song Kevin's Parade. No, Kevin's Birthday. I don't know Kevin's Birthday.
I don't know that song.
The game is called Kevin's Parade.
Okay, but...
Well, we're not singing the song,
but there must be something that we can do.
But I don't know the song.
Right.
Like, what's going to make me buy it?
Maybe if it's that song that's like...
It's more of a famous song, you know what I mean?
Right.
Not the song...
What's the song that is like the dark parade or something?
Whether he's in the ringmaster uniform.
It's like My Morning Jack jacket maybe or someone. Okay.
I guess that would move a shit ton
of games. The Black
Parade. Okay. It could be
that.
Or I can think of another song
anyway.
I wonder
if our job is to be behind Kevin
leaving out some snacks for him.
Ah.
So he's going to be out there for a while.
We don't want to interrupt him,
but we just are putting out some snacks
for when he is ready.
For when he takes a break.
Yes.
That could be sick as hell.
Kevin told us, by the way,
I should say that he was doing the merch table
before the show.
Can I ask if there,
if anyone bought merch,
if there,
did anyone use cash?
Okay, we're not supposed
to be doing cash.
He's not allowed to have...
We can't do cash with Kevin.
The thing he does...
So people are like, oh, he steals the cash?
No, no, no, no.
No.
He will add his own
cash
to make it seem like
he did a good job.
Yes.
So we have to just take
that option off the table
because Kevin's mom
has started calling us
and being like,
I'm sending him
all this money every month
and we don't know
where it goes.
And obviously,
it's, you know,
it's getting added
into the cash pile
for the merch table. It's very clear that it's his mom's the cash pile for the merch table.
It's very clear that it's his mom's money.
It smells like his mom.
So, as far as game ideas, I'm just trying to think of other things about cards.
trying to think of other things about cards.
Like,
so when you get
asked for an ID,
you're getting carded.
Okay.
That's definitely cards.
Continue.
The cards element is already
in play.
Now we can just have fun.
Yes, exactly.
So let's open this
world up a little bit.
So like
I guess I'm like a
bouncer or something.
And Hayes is like a DJ
inside.
And he's like spinning at the club.
He's like the hot DJ from the movie Ibiza that Gillian Jacobs wants to get with.
Well, I'd have recognition for that.
I'll pass that along.
So he's kind of in there and like you want to get to him.
But first, you got to show your cards.
Yeah.
And.
Who is the person giving the cards?
Kevin, I guess.
Yeah.
OK.
Kevin.
And then Max is like, well, you know what?
Kevin should be cooking.
Yes, that's right.
I mean, are we not going to do food there?
Kevin should have done a little.
It would have been nice if you did some cooking for Who Said That as well, Kevin.
And I noticed you were just sitting there the entire time we were talking about Who Said That
and not offering to do any cooking.
And you should be cooking right now.
And I think that Max could then maybe be giving me cards.
Okay.
And maybe they're like, it's like a Pete Sampras card.
Like a collectible card for like a 90s tennis player.
Wow.
But there's a word bubble drawn in.
And the shit we got Pete Sampson saying.
Oh.
Yeah.
And I see the gears turning already.
This guy's going to friggin' bury me.
No, I mean, it could be pretty fucked up.
And it doesn't just have to be Pete.
Jennifer Capriati.
Yeah.
Yvonne Lendl.
Chang.
Michael Chang.
Carl Chang.
Yeah.
Two of them played doubles together.
Yeah.
I mean, Todd Martin,
Gordy Venisevich,
Stefan Edberg.
Yeah.
Let's get them all lined up.
Martina!
And some of the shit
they could be saying.
Yiko
Mako.
So to recap The game is called
Um
Can I see some ID?
And so
It's
You are
Approaching Sean Who's a bouncer And and you have he says, can I?
He says, got it.
Got it.
He's ready to see somebody.
Kevin is cooking.
I'm the DJ from the movie Ibiza.
You give him these funny cards that have the guys, those tennis guys.
Yes.
And the word bubbles are saying the shit that's so fucked,
but everyone is loving it as well.
And it doesn't have to be like,
I think some of the stuff
we said before
got a little political.
Yeah.
This shit doesn't have to be that
to be fucked up.
Yeah.
It could be like,
um,
my dad's an octopus.
Yeah.
Sure.
I want to be boyfriends with a friggin' frog.
Okay.
Not that.
It wouldn't obviously be that.
Yes.
So...
I am into that one, yeah.
That one's good.
I do see some logistical issues with that one as well.
Just the space.
As you are freaking for it,
I'm thinking like,
I'm already doing Who Said That?
I have to be in everyone's house
who's playing that game.
Where is this taking place?
Are we doing this in so
everyone has to come to the club?
I think what we have to do is
make a cardboard club in Kevin's
driveway because quite frankly we're going to be
pretty busy
at Kevin's parade.
Right.
So is that an expansion
of Kevin's parade? Is this an expansion
of Kevin's parade? Is this an expansion of Kevin's parade?
Wow.
Wow.
Yeah.
And this is why Max is where he is,
because he sees the whole field in a way.
That this falls under the umbrella of Kevin's parade,
which is now the main game, really.
Wow.
And so now I really know what it feels
like to have game run on me.
Max, do you want to talk a little bit about game theory
and the prisoner's dilemma?
And I know we said, yes, you didn't have to
talk at all when you came up here, but like,
now you're here.
And so to just throw something to you that's hard to do.
Yeah.
Yeah, this is awful.
It's like, who cares?
Yes, we promised or whatever.
Yeah.
No, what I did, I asked you a question, which is, do you want to do that?
Ah, I don't want to talk about game theory.
Yeah, okay.
Okay.
Okay.
That's great.
You got to keep some secrets, right?
I know the laws of power.
Oh, yeah. All 48?
48 laws of power?
Dominance hierarchies.
We've been reading about this.
Yeah.
That shit trips me out.
Yeah.
How it reminds me,
I got to get my shoulders back.
Yes.
How lobsters are like the boss of the ocean,
basically.
And they're the most normal animal.
It's real.
This is all real stuff.
If you actually read a book.
They're the most normal.
Yeah.
They're actually
the closest to humans.
Yeah.
And now you don't have to
read the actual science book.
You just read a book
by a guy who is
not a scientist,
but is maybe friends
with like a couple.
Works at the same place or something.
A pure sociopath.
Yeah.
Right, which is like, he's a sociopath's kind of doctor.
Mm-hmm.
True.
Give me the 29th law of power.
I didn't read them in order.
I would reference them as needed.
That's a better way to memorize it, really.
Then you totally absorb it if you skip around.
I do have a question.
For me?
I don't know who it's for.
The question is,
how long has it been?
And maybe someone could sing a little song
and actually do something
for once in the show.
Well, it seems like we have people in the audience
that want to sing it.
Who?
Oh, no, not everyone.
Did I not hear someone just start singing it?
I can't.
You were doing it.
Well, this seems like it.
He wants to do it.
You can't kind of start singing a song.
How long, how long
has it been?
Keep going!
Keep going!
Wow.
That fucking rocked.
It's been one hour.
Okay.
Which means we got 10 minutes left.
So normally we could get away with ending the show now.
No one is supposed to know
exactly what our allotted time is
in this episode.
But through circumstances that nobody asked for, is in this episode. But
through circumstances that
nobody asked for,
totally unforced.
Should I read this innocuous
message from you? Or should I
read this extremely damaging
thing I sent to you?
Well, yeah.
That was not a question answering situation.
So, someone from the audience said damaging.
In response to the question that we were asking Kevin.
In the past.
In the context of like 40 minutes ago.
If you've seen Deadpool 2, I sort of became cable in that moment.
And so to answer, go ahead, do more cable stuff. ago. If you've seen Deadpool 2, I sort of became cable in that moment.
And so to answer... Go ahead. Do you want more cable stuff?
Well, no. I just...
I want to hear more. I adjusted my
magical watch
and managed to skip
back
40 minutes and ask
Kevin a question.
But for you to answer now in real time.
Yeah, to make a choice
between those two options,
I guess you thought that was happening
the present day
when clearly Sean adjusted his
magical watch and it was happening 40 minutes ago.
I'm just saying so I don't disappoint you
so you don't leave and say, well, I chose
damaging. They didn't do
it. They just blew right by it. No, I, I chose damaging. They didn't do it. They just like blew right
by it. No, I'm accounting for you.
You yelled at me, so
I'm gonna, you know,
I'm helping.
And maybe he thought
I was playing one of the games
we described? That's possible.
Oh, should that be a game?
It's my turn to do one,
so that's an easy way
for me to kind of
get out of this.
We've already got
a proven market for it.
Yes.
Like, we know at least
one guy who wants
to play that game.
Yes.
Do you want to come up here?
Is that a homemade merch?
No, that is from
Surf, Salt Surf, yeah.
Well, I disavowed Salt Surf.
This is a company that made a shirt that said nice and cool,
and I thought, oh, that's funny.
We say that on the show.
So then I wore it on the podcast a few times
and got my picture taken,
and then I sent them a DM in a very pathetic display.
It was like, hey, guys, I've been wearing your shirts on my show.
A lot of people are ordering.
Like, look, people are liking it.
And they were like, hey, thanks.
And then I was like, fuck you.
Never again.
Because I kind of wanted more.
Well, let's play a game.
Now, I realize what I have done,
what we have done,
is we have brought two very similar-looking white men
onto the stage.
Yeah.
He's a handsome guy, though.
I mean, they've got...
He can't respond, so it's tough to throw stuff at him in this situation.
I know this is your thing, like speaking up, but...
But...
I don't know what to do about it now.
They look exactly the same.
I guess this is just like forces at work
in my head that I'm not aware of.
Mm-hmm.
Does this work?
Wow, we have a cool...
It's just fun to see Kevin exploring the stage.
It's that sense of discovery that I lost so long ago.
To see a live show
through Kevin's eyes.
So what is this game
that you wanted to do?
It has to have cards.
Right, yeah, of course. It has to have cards. It has to have cards. Right, yeah, of course.
It has to have cards.
It has to have...
Always a proven, tried and true device.
Yes, yes.
I've leaned on that crutch many times.
Be careful, it's a little creaky.
And I gotta say, we used to sometimes get upset at fans
for coming up and trying to do a broken English thing
or using the sort of stale jokes that we had retired.
And genuinely,
the more I think about it,
we never should be punishing anyone for that.
Yeah. Because
if our fan
base was
able to
move past
the sort of very simple bad
jokes we started with,
they would be gone.. They would be gone.
No one would be here.
Before we do an empty theater.
So I'm like, I don't really do that anymore.
It's like, yes, you do.
And they're trying to do it.
And you're like seeing, it's like, you know,
you can't truly hate equality in someone else.
So you don't sort of see in yourself.
It's a horror of recognition. Yes, that's like, you know, you can't truly hate a quality in someone else that you don't sort of see in yourself. It's a horror of recognition.
Yes, that's right. It's like,
oh God, that's what I look like.
Hearing your own voice on an answering machine. Walking into a dark room and just being
terrified by a shadow and then flicking
the light on, it's a mirror.
So that's what's going on, so I do
not want to discourage this at all.
Please. But to continue with the crutch allegory, be careful. The wood So that's what's going on. So I do not want to discourage this at all. No.
Please.
But to continue with the crutch allegory,
be careful.
The wood has gotten a little rotten from sweat.
It smells like the crutch smells bad from us sweating into the wood.
You just refreshed my memory on what the question was.
The question was,
we need one more card game
to pitch to Max.
But the question you responded to from the audience
you mean? Oh, yeah. Is that what you mean?
Sure. Okay.
Yeah. Now,
do you not know what you mean?
Hey, hey, hey. I think that's a safe assumption.
Yeah, hey, neither do I
Neither do I
I've been done with this show for half an hour
Yeah
And if you're thinking
We're playing something out here
Starting something complicated
How are they going to tie this up?
There's like two minutes left in the show
The lights just go out
They turn off, it's dark it's
over so don't worry about that i'm saying we just waited out like what's the point i was hoping the
song would go longer oh sure before that's messing up my timing a little bit he only did the first
part it's a really nice voice are you a singer uh here But here's the thing.
Am I going to introduce another bearded man into the show?
No, I'm not.
I've learned my lesson.
If anyone who is not a bearded white man wants to sing the song, I welcome that.
Yeah. I'm a bearded white man. I welcome that. Yeah.
And this is our curse.
Maybe it's not our fault.
Nothing doing.
Man, maybe that's just
Chicago City.
I tell you,
they're a little funny in that town.
Okay.
I see some of these guys got this hair,
but it's not exactly on the top of their head.
It's on the front of it.
Boy, that's just Chicago City.
Leave me out of this.
Leave me out of this.
Mal Hayes.
Mal Hayes, you pointed this out this
morning to me about Chicago City.
I knew we were going to talk about it now.
Okay, but admit it.
We're just talking.
We want to get one question from
someone? Yeah, that sounds good.
No, you got your song.
I got one.
Okay, I believe that you have one.
Okay, I'm seeing more of these.
All right, there's a couple rockers.
What's this freaking hard rocker?
Oh, God.
So rough, huh?
Yeah.
I mean, it is a lot like that
Being John Malkovich.
That first scene
with the puppets.
Yes.
They're keeping their hands up though
I gotta
I gotta give it to them
It's gotta be
It's gotta be really good
The one question
I see a woman with her hand up
Do you wanna get
Oh yes okay
Yeah
Okay
She's not coming to me I thought you were going to ask me a question for a second
okay
I have one
why did you think that?
just lost in the moment
my question is can we see more of Bosh? yes Just lost in the moment.
My question is, can we see more of Bosh?
Yes.
Thank you. Thank you.
Now, Bosh.
Chef Bosh.
I think it would be a really nice thing
if you sang a song
thanking everyone for coming. Maybe as a way, like, F. Bosch, I think it would be a really nice thing if you sang a song thanking
everyone for coming.
Maybe as a way, like, we can leave
the stage, and like
as we're leaving, you can like sort of sing us out.
And you can thank Max.
And Max, thank you
so much. You're welcome. You're welcome.
It was my pleasure.
Are you kidding me with Max? Like, this guy is running
like a huge business. He comes all the way to our show. Thank you kidding me? This guy is running a huge business.
He comes all the way to our show.
Thank you for the ideas.
Unbelievable.
And what's your name?
It's Tim.
Tim?
Yeah.
It might be good to say that you have a huge business.
I have a huge business.
Okay.
Whoa.
Wow.
Yeah.
And that's who listens to our show.
Not bad And yours is like raunchy
Christmas ornaments
It's like sex
Christmas ornaments
That's good
So Max and Tim, we're thanking Tim as well
We're thanking the audience
We're thanking the city of Chicago
The city of Chicago is a character in this song
Okay Anything else? And you're boshed for it, obviously we're thanking the city of Chicago. The city of Chicago is a character in this song. Okay?
Anything else? And you're
Bosch for it, obviously.
I guess you want to thank me.
Yeah, well, I mean, it kind of goes without saying.
There's no show without us.
Okay?
Got it? Okay, I'm going to hand the mic
over to you.
Hey guys, Chef Bosch here.
Woo!
to you.
Hey guys, Chef Bosh here.
This is in the tune of the song Kevin's Birthday.
Thank God.
From the game Kevin's Parade.
Thank you, Max.
Thank you, Tim.
Thank you, Max.
Thank you, Tim.
Thank you, Chicago
City.
Thank you, Sean
and the fans.
Thank you, everyone.
Bye. Bye.
I'm a horny girl.
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