Hollywood Handbook - Rob Huebel, Our Close Friend
Episode Date: September 19, 2017Sean and Hayes are joined by ROB HUEBEL to review some of his most famous roles. This episode is sponsored by ZipRecruiter (www.ziprecruiter.com/THEBOYS) and the Second City Training Center (...www.secondcity.com/TC)See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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This is a HeadGum Podcast. run. Every time I'm going to Costco, I get a call.
How do they know?
It's often Paul Schneider.
And then when we get there, he's always patting his pants.
He's like, oh, my membership card. Can I just jump on yours? I'll come in with you.
You show, and then we'll walk together and hold my hand.
And it's like, okay.
It's okay if you don't belong.
This is fine with me.
But today, we're just going for lunch and we get up to the front and we say like, oh, like
two hot dogs.
And they're like, are you sure?
And I'm like, yeah, two hot dogs, please.
Are you sure about the hot dogs?
Were they like, are you sure you don't want one of these chicken bakes?
That's what I thought.
Yeah.
And I did.
I think about it and I say, no, I think I want just hot dog, please.
And not a chicken bake.
Yeah.
And they say, okay.
And I say, no, I think I want just hot dog.
And not a chicken bakeout.
And they say, okay.
And then they're like, bring out the frigging truck.
No.
Because I realized we were in the inside part.
There's a food area outside, and then there's the shopping part inside where everything is like 500 of them.
You know about this? Okay, so when you say two hot dogs, they're giving you a thousand hot dogs.
Two pallets of hot dogs.
And they bring these out, and we're like, okay.
Like, you know, our reaction is kind of like, oh, I don't know.
This is too many.
That sucks.
Yeah, you don't want to eat that many.
And so, but the people at the counter are like, you don't want them?
You know that kind of voice?
They're sad.
Like trying to be brave, but they're like, you don't want them? And you're afraid they're going to cry if you don't want them you know that and kind of voice they're sad like trying to be brave but they're
like you don't want them and you're afraid they're gonna cry and i'm gonna eat all yeah i'm scared
i'm like okay no we want these these are great thank you and we started eating them and some of
the people in the store are seeing us do this and they're like oh those guys are really nice sorry
are they uncooked they are edible they're not warm but they're like you can't eat they're not raw yeah but it's like a hot dog you can eat them however once they come out warm. But they're like you can eat. They're not raw.
It's like a hot dog. You can eat them however.
Once they come out of the package they're ready to eat.
They're not cold
either.
And people are watching
us and being like oh these are nice guys.
And girls are seeing us and being like oh that's really sweet
that they're doing this.
And they're like hey
can we join you? Can we all have some of these hot dogs? And we're like this. Yeah. And they're like, hey, can we join you?
Can we all have some of these hot dogs?
And we're like, yeah, it costs money.
It wasn't free for us.
OK, yeah.
So you're actually making money, and everyone's getting pretty horny.
Yes, I ended up making a huge amount of money, and everyone at the Costco all had this huge
party.
Well, congrats to you and Paul, And that sounds like a fun Costco trip.
Hey, welcome to Hollywood Handbook, an insider's guide to kicking button, dropping names in the red carpet linebacker hallways of this industry we call Showbiz.
Can I just say wow?
What up, what up?
Can I just say oh my gosh, wow?
Yeah, actually give me a minute.
No, you can't say that because I have something to say first.
Wow.
And that's why I'm thinking the whole time I was on the way here, I was thinking like, oh my God, wow.
Yeah, and I actually called you at one point.
You didn't answer, but I left a voicemail, and I
was just going like, wow.
Yeah. Okay.
So that's what that was. Yeah, no, I didn't.
I didn't know if you'd listened to her.
It was Rob, and Rob
Hubel's here.
Real Rob. Wow. The real
Rob. Real Rob. Wow. The real Rob. Yeah, real Rob in the flesh.
I did not get any emails that said wow or – normally when I agree to do a job, one of the first things that happens is I get a barrage of emails from producers and people involved in the project.
And people say how excited they are to have me involved.
From the host, from the sidekick.
Exactly.
And so my understanding was that even in the podcasting world, that there would still be a fair amount of back and forth before I came in to do the show.
I thought there would be some correspondence and some wows.
That's what the candy was.
I mean, we send candy.
To us, that was what the –
The candy is sort of a wow.
My nutritionist said that – he took the candy basket and he said, I can't.
Do you have that fat nutritionist?
Yeah.
And he eats all your candy before it gets to you?
Gregor.
Yeah, that's interesting.
That's a cool sort of way they'll do it is the nutritionist, they're not healthy at all.
They just go, if anything unhealthy is here, let me have it.
Let me have it.
Yeah.
They're like running interference for you to keep you healthy and strong.
Yeah.
Interception.
Yeah.
Yeah. It's interception. Yeah. Yeah, it's football season.
Well, I'm sorry if you're disappointed that you didn't get more than the candy.
Obviously, you didn't get to eat the candy, so of course that's disappointing.
I think Hayes and I were going back and forth like who gets to email him wow first.
Right, right, right.
And it was such a competition that we wound up not being able to settle it
and it was like, okay, nobody email him.
Wow, we'll send the candy for both of us.
Well, ironically, what happened was
when I didn't get enough
correspondence from you guys
confirming the appearance
on the podcast,
I actually, that's what roped me in
because you sort of like
sort of like kind of like iced me out and I was like, so what roped me in because you sort of like. Okay, good. Sort of like.
And that is what we meant to do all along.
You kind of like iced me out.
Yes.
And I was like, so what is the deal with these guys?
Because you had no intention of ever showing up.
No, I was not going to be here.
It was just to get the emails.
I was not going to be here.
And that was actually our plan the whole time.
I didn't want to come until I realized that I wasn't exactly sure how much you guys wanted me.
Remember in Batman 3 in the beginning when Bane is getting caught,
was part of his whole plan?
At the very beginning.
The name of the movie is Batman 3.
Batman 3, yes.
Batman 3, yes.
The third of the Batmans.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
When Bane is, yes, who's in some ways just as nefarious as Mr. J.
And the man says, was getting caught part of your plan?
In the beginning on the plane.
And it turns out he had wanted to, right?
It feels a bit like that, doesn't it?
Yeah.
We're playing three-dimensional chess, and we're a couple of banes.
I got it.
Well, it worked.
I'm here.
Well, and now that you're here, what are we going to do with you?
We have to get started because we have to use our time because it's going to take so long to talk about your career.
And that's because it's been so long. It's one of these careers, isn't it? Where it takes a so long to talk about your career. And that's because it's been so long.
It's one of these careers, isn't it?
Where it takes a little while to talk about it.
That's what everybody says.
A lot of people.
You can't tell from the inside.
You're inside the career looking out.
I was going through, this is going to sound a little pretentious, but I was walking through the airport yesterday.
And someone recognized me and said, oh, you have one of those careers.
Wow, yeah. And to me, that's not pretentious at all. said, oh, you have one of those careers. Wow, yeah.
And to me, that's not pretentious at all.
Right, right, right.
In fact, you're almost underplaying it, and it's very humble.
Right, right, right.
Except the airport part.
Yeah.
Does it cost money to get in there?
How'd you score that?
You can't just show up.
Well.
People don't know that we, I'm explaining, not to you, obviously, you know that.
I'm explaining to the people who are listening.
Who are now going to be like, oh, I'll just try and walk in there.
Maybe I'll see Rob.
Oh, great.
I'll go to the airport.
Yeah, Rob's there.
Yeah, real Rob.
Yeah, okay.
Well, it'll cost you a couple bucks.
A lot of times if you want to travel, and again, this sounds pretentious.
Please.
What traveling is is when you get away from where you currently live and you're going to go somewhere else.
Let's say it's to like a wedding or like a business trip or something like that.
Yeah, or just – yeah.
And you want to go – if you want to go the fastest way possible, the fastest current method.
People listening to this will understand in terms of the movie Wedding Crashers and the movie Business Trip.
Right.
So like when they think of that, movies.
Sure.
If you were going to go and crash a wedding –
Cool, and the internship.
And the internship because they are usually – they start – Do you mean the intern or the crash a wedding. Cool, and the internship. And the internship, because they are usually, they start.
Do you mean the intern or the internship?
Oh, well, both are good.
The intern doesn't have as much traveling.
There's more travel in the internship where it's like they're not starting there.
They have to go there.
But currently, the fastest mode of travel is airplane travel.
Yeah, unfortunately.
That's why I was, yeah yeah and i know you're working
on something faster fast and furious yeah exactly but planes in planes yeah yeah as far as travel
yeah i have an idea for um a mode of travel have you do you know what the i don't know if you've
ever seen this thing before it was like a vacuum tube where they used to put way back before you got – I'm older than you guys.
But they used to have – when you go to the bank and you want to make a deposit in the bank, there was like a little vacuum tube.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And you would put your –
No, my uncle got his dick stuck in one.
Yeah.
So you would put your thing and your business in there and you'd put it in there and go –
Yeah, put your business in.
Don't put your thing in there.
Don't put your real business in there. Or if you call it – you could call it your business too, in which case don't put your business in there and you put it in there and go, yep. Yeah. Put your business in. Don't put your thing in there. Don't put your real business.
Or if you call it something, you could call it your business too.
In which case, don't put your business.
Just put like a check in there.
Yeah.
Because again, put cash, put coins, whatever you want in there.
And then it gets sucked up into the bank.
And so that's what I'm working on is a mode of travel where you can get sucked up into
a bank.
Yeah.
Because, yeah, because most of the time when you're traveling, let's be honest,
you're going from outside the bank to inside the bank.
That's right.
And hopefully back.
That's right.
So what I'm doing –
To take a plane there now is very inconvenient.
It sucks.
There's nowhere to land.
No, you're not –
Because the parking lots are so jammed.
You can't land a plane on a bank unless it's 9-11.
Yeah, and thank you for saying it.
And thank you to the banks for opening up to some of those planes that needed to land.
And the bank said, hey, we've got these huge roofs.
Yeah.
So what I'm doing is my company is exploring the possibility of reusing all of those bank suck tubes so that you can –
Because they just got tossed out.
Yeah.
Or they got unplugged.
So what we're doing is we're going to go back and we're going to plug them back in.
And then you can go outside a bank and if you want to go inside that bank –
and it may not even be a bank anymore.
It could be – it may have been turned into something else.
Hopefully it's like a restaurant or a nightclub or something like that.
Yeah.
That's huge because you diversify a little bit.
So that's what we're working on.
That's where it's going, we hope.
Yeah, and speaking of, just to back it up,
we're talking about Fast and Furious with planes.
Isn't it kind of bullshit that those movies are called Fast and Furious
when we know there's something faster they could be in for a fact?
Yeah.
And isn't it like not that fast?
And looking back, are they even
furious? Right. There's not
that much furiousness.
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
There's some quickness
and some anger
or disappointment. Yeah.
There's frustration. Yeah. But to say
like fast and furious is
Compared to a huge plane with a brave
pilot. Right. Mm- plane with a brave pilot.
And the pilot's like mad.
Like truly furious.
What might
make someone feel that way? Well, you know what?
We'll get into it. That's a good
segue, actually.
It's a really good segue.
It could get us into talking about some of your roles
where you have had to be
kind of furious.
Great segue.
Hey, thank you.
Yeah.
I hate to point out my own segues, but Hayes won't always do it for me.
Yeah.
And so to take a minute and celebrate that.
We're taking the training wheels off.
Will we, just because I don't know the format of the show, will we always announce segues like that?
Every time.
So, yes, this is what we always do.
We always bring on a guest and we always talk about every movie they've done in their careers.
And when we do a segue to that point,
I traditionally have been announcing it,
but now lately I've been sort of letting,
like pushing Sean off, and my hands are on his.
I'm a bit of a fledgling, and I've had some crash landings,
but this one I actually was able to sort of catch a stiff breeze.
So what we do is we say, load the page, Ryan, please.
And pull up the page.
Yes, load the page.
Im-da-ba.
It's loading.
Thank you.
It takes a little bit.
So now we just kind of like.
And Ryan, does it make any loading noises when it's loaded?
Yes, we always do the loading noises.
Yeah, we're not going to.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
And?
And what else?
Okay.
Yeah, and he's cold.
Okay, and is it almost loaded, Ryan?
Yeah.
I think one thing, again, not to sound pretentious, but one of the problems with why it's loading so slow is because of the volume of movies that I've done.
Yes.
When we get there, there is – it's a lot of hypertext.
And I've noticed just looking at the page that you've loaded a huge number of personal images on your. On your IMDb page. Yeah. I have a lot of bio. Yeah. My bio I'm, I'm usually reworking
my bio and my nutritionist helps me kind of keep that up to date. Um, helps me word some things.
You seem to be keeping track of your body progress in images on your IMDb page.
Is that correct?
Yeah, there's a lot of shirtless pics and drawings, some self-portraits that I've done that I like to upload to the Internet,
specifically to the Internet Movie Database to allow people to track my body progress, see where I am in my growth.
Yeah, in your physical journey.
In my changing, yeah.
Yeah, and you're close to becoming, right?
Yeah, I don't know if you've ever seen Silence of the Lambs.
Yeah.
The movie, not the play.
I haven't watched it, but yeah.
No, not the play, but the movie Silence of the Lambs.
Okay.
Yeah, no, I haven't watched it, but yeah.
I've only seen the kind of black box production of the play.
There's a character there that is trying to change and become a better person.
And I am sort of following in his footsteps.
Yeah.
And that's clear from both the images we have where there's these sort of split screen week to week changes, but also the drawings of what you hope to be.
That's right.
That are graphic.
Yeah, it's me wearing other people's skin, other people's scalps, stuff like that.
And what an artist, Rob.
I mean, not everyone can draw that stuff in addition to being an actor, which is a type of artist.
I appreciate it.
But that is why the page is loading so slowly because a lot of the drawings are to scale.
Yeah, yeah.
And so they are – you're going to have to – your researcher is going to be scrolling down a lot.
Yeah, and we have informed Ryan, hey, get your – do your finger exercises this week because you're going to be doing a lot of scrolling.
I think at some point he might want to use his whole elbows.
And he said, oh, don't worry, I will in this kind of gross way.
I don't know what that was referring to.
But in this kind of like –
Almost sarcastic.
Licky way.
It was like way ahead of you and it was sort of like a drooling, like sort of lascivious sort of implication.
Do we have full page load status?
It's up.
Yeah, it's up now.
Thank you.
Full page load status achieved.
Please say it that way, Ryan.
We do this every week.
It's the same show every week.
I'd love it for you to learn any aspect of it.
Are we going to break for food?
For lunch and stuff?
Lunch, yeah.
Now, your nutritionist is not around.
Right.
So –
Well, he's circling the block.
Yes, couldn't find parking.
Couldn't find parking and prefers to circle the block.
But he's listening to the podcast live.
Whoa.
He has a live feed.
He has a live feed.
Okay.
And has he texted you any thoughts so far?
So far he said it's great.
Oh, wow.
He said the –
That's –
Yeah.
Wow.
He thinks everything's going great so far.
That's huge.
Nice.
All right.
He appreciates all the shout-outs.
We don't get that real-time feedback.
That's really big for us.
Oh, yeah. Of course he likes it.
He's been one of the stars of it so far.
The answer is yes.
We always take a lunch break.
It's kind of like a mandated.
Is it a walk-away?
For you, I think we did negotiate a walk-away.
Yeah, I can look at the terms.
I will say not everyone gets a walk-away.
Is it a double-banger or a triple-banger?
Yeah, it's going to be a triple banger, and I do feel so sorry about that.
We obviously wanted a honey wagon, and what happened in sort of sorting through this stuff was it became an issue of space.
Oh, okay.
It became an issue of space.
It became an issue of real estate.
Okay.
Because we're indoors.
Okay.
And he's mad.
And so for people who can't see, he's really mad, you know, which is what we initially started talking about.
And this is a good segue.
Some of your roles where you've been kind of furious, where you've been kind of angry.
Can I let you in on a little secret?
I was pretending that whole time.
I was just pretending to give you a live sampling of what it feels like when I am furious.
To be so furious.
And so we're looking at your roles, and a lot of them are furious, most of them.
There's a certain level of curiosity there that I will bring to it.
If it's a role, I'm willing to go there.
If it's a part, I'm willing to go there. If it's a part, I'm
also willing to go there.
Either way, if it's a part
or a role,
I'm willing to be furious.
What if it's a challenge?
Yeah, or like a character.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, I would do that. I would be furious.
I'm getting blown away here.
Do you want to say the first one?
Yeah.
Okay, so I guess –
Scroll down.
Just scroll down.
Yeah, as I just scroll and I just randomly click.
Look at random.
Okay, so, you know, obviously you played Dino in the film Bush Smasher.
And, you know, I mean talk a little bit about your experience.
Talk about getting, you know, reading the script, kind of getting the offer, putting the director through his paces, all your stuff.
Well, what I did in Bushmasher is loosely based on Bushmasher 2.
They made the sequel.
Yes.
Sequel first.
Sequel first, yeah.
Because there was a demand for explaining a lot of the stuff that happened in Bush Smasher 2.
This is like when they were doing the Tyler Perry model for a lot of things.
The current model in Hollywood is to put out the sequel first because it implies success.
So if you have the implication of success, people will go see that and they'll go, this is amazing.
Why didn't I see the first one?
Why didn't I see Bushmasher 1?
Yeah.
And they'll go back and see it later.
The tagline is something like, he's back, baby.
Yeah.
And everyone driving by sees the billboard and they're like, who is back?
I got to go see the first one. And there's a real art, I think, to making the second one first in a way that you can follow it, but that does imply there's a mythology which has not been established.
Like, for example, like in Bushmasher 2, I remember a lot of the characters were saying they missed Dino.
So there was a lot of buildup for who Dino was going to be in Bush.
That's right.
Yeah.
That's right.
In Bushmasher.
And so Dino, as you guys know, he's the gentleman rancher that lives next door.
And a lot of times, you know, the Bush Smasher will come outside, you know, in his front yard.
And he's like, you know, obviously doing what he does.
Smashing bushes.
Stomping on bushes.
Burning, pulling up bushes. You know, gardening. up bushes, gardening, topiary, stuff like that.
A lot of people took a sexual connotation from that title, which I think was disgusting.
I think it was a metaphor sometimes, the way that he would attack the physical bush in his yard was supposed to represent some of his frustration maybe.
Yeah.
I didn't even – now that you're saying that, hearing that now, I didn't pick up on that.
No, it's only because I have some gross friends.
Yeah, that is interesting.
And he means me.
But so Dino would be like the next-door neighbor, like a gentleman rancher.
Yeah.
The next-door neighbor, like a gentleman rancher, would come over and would make – what the director said to do was just to make casual chit-chat. Like all of the dialogue, frame it more like casual chit-chat.
Right.
Don't make it seem like a monologue.
Make it seem like just two people talking.
But these were multi-page speeches.
For sure. You had allpage speeches. For sure.
You had all the lines.
For sure.
And they would shoot it in such a way where I would look straight down the barrel and do the whole thing straight into the lens.
And the Bush Smasher was never on set with you.
No, the Bush Smasher didn't even have to be there and was not there.
Yeah.
But so I would do all of my lines straight down the barrel,
but in the sort of way that would feel like casual chit-chat.
Wow.
There's a choice I was always curious about.
So Dino is missing for the second movie.
They talk about him as if he is dead.
It turns out at the end of the movie that he has just moved.
Yeah, he moved away.
To Disney World. Yeah. Which is only like the end of the movie that he has just moved. Yeah, he moved away. To Disney World.
Yeah.
Which is only like a block away.
Yeah.
Which is really close.
And he left all his cows.
Yeah.
It seems like he's like forgot them or something.
No, it's because he's a gentleman rancher.
Okay.
Obviously, a gentleman rancher is going to leave behind all of the farm animals, all of the livestock, cows, horses, whatever.
But they starve.
You see them all just starved to death.
In real time.
And he can see them from Disney World.
Yeah, in real time, we see them.
The goose starves.
Yeah, we see them.
Well, because he's not in Burst Smasher 2, but there are a lot of Dino POV shots where Kyron, Dino POV, and it's through binoculars.
Can I also give you a little, I guess like what they call a factoid or like a fun fact?
Oh, I'd love that.
Yeah, a piece of movie trivia for my pub trivia nights.
Yeah, and this isn't even like a segue or anything like that.
This is just a brief factoid or fun fact and then we'll go straight back into it.
Okay.
But originally the movie, a lot of people, they got a lot of pushback from the studio
because the movie is called Bush Smasher.
And a lot of people thought it would be better
if it was just called Bush Master.
Sure.
So they focus grouped it and then Bush Smasher
was just easier to say than Bush Master.
Yeah, Bush Master.
I can see why you would want that
because he is a master of the bush
and he is mastering those bushes in a way with his shears.
Yeah.
But he's also smashing them.
Yeah.
He's smashing the leaves off with the blades.
Yeah.
But, yeah, I mean, it must have been informative for you to know, like, ultimately where your character was going and to sort of slot into the track that was already laid.
Having seen the sequel first, Bush Smasher 2 first,
I knew that Dino would be moving away out of the neighborhood.
And getting some pretty powerful binoculars
to watch all the way from Disneyland.
And so I said to know, I said,
um,
to them,
I was like,
well,
what if we cut to Dino every now and then he's looking through the
binoculars at,
you know,
um,
at the Bushmasher.
And they said,
I don't think we need it.
Yeah.
Which I thought was appropriate.
You know,
I thought that was appropriate.
It's like,
well,
you know,
did you bring to it that you were wearing?
Cause you're obviously wearing one of those sort of novelty,
goofy hats where it looks like goofy space and's face and the two ears hanging down.
Yeah, I wondered if maybe you just wanted – If that was because you know he's going to move to Disney.
Was that your idea?
Did the directors bring that to you?
That was from the marketing department.
Wow.
There was a product tie-in.
Hoping to maybe have Disney as the studio once the – after the movie was made.
So a lot of times what they'll do now, the current model in Hollywood is they will oftentimes incorporate toys, products, beverages, snacks, stuff like that.
And they'll use it hoping to later get that company involved.
Yeah, I noticed it felt like they were trying to launch a drink company, a beverage company
out of the film.
Yeah.
There are so many scenes where people are talking about the specific sports drink that
they're having, which I was unable to find anywhere.
And then –
Well, a lot of the dialogue is like, you know, are you enjoying your monster energy drink?
And then the next person will say, what are you drinking?
I'm drinking Red Bull Purple Edition.
Right.
But it doesn't seem like they know that those are already drinks.
Yes.
Yeah, no.
And they were just fingers crossed this will be a drink that everyone could find somewhere soon, they would say a lot.
Yeah, yeah.
But it already was.
That's right, yeah.
But all of that is trying to get those companies to support the movie financially.
With the Goofy hat specifically, we were hoping that Disney would pick the movie up.
Thank you.
Hayes, did you have a film that you wanted to discuss?
I have always wanted to talk to Rob about—
Or just scroll down if you want to just scroll.
Is there like a roulette wheel feature on IMDb still?
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Ryan, can you spin the IMDb roulette wheel, please?
Yeah.
Here we go.
And volume all the way up for the sound of the roulette wheel?
Okay.
Get that cat out of here.
What is there?
Why is that fucking cat in here?
Jesus.
My nutritionist told me that I'm allergic to cats.
Oh, wow.
Oh, boy.
So he was like, give me all the cats that you have.
So I bring him cats that he will eat.
And part of the reason why he's, like we said, not in shape.
This is embarrassing because now I know that he's listening to a live stream of this.
And we talked about his body in kind of a not flattering way. Right.
So what we've landed on is
your voice role. I know you do a lot
of animation stuff.
Yeah. Of the nasty
duck in Gay Frog
Forest. Yeah.
The big question
for me was the title
of the movie. If you know anything about this, the decision to, after the fact, have all the animals in this forest be gay when it's never mentioned in the actual movie.
Well, there's no sexuality at all.
There's no reference to any sexuality.
It's a children's movie.
So we thought that it would be forward thinking to call the movie Gay Frog Forest but not have the frogs act in a stereotypical gay way.
We felt like that would be like really on the nose.
So they don't ever act like – So you were involved in this decision even as the nasty dog.
If you look, you can see some gay pretty graphic sex going on way in the background.
In the background.
And that's been the party line, and I've obviously freeze-framed my way
through this picture a number of times.
But, you know, that story doesn't always hold water for me
because it was released just as Frog Forest for about a month
before it became called Gay Frog Forest.
And a lot of the posters seemed handwritten on the poster.
It looked as though someone had gone back over all the billboards and some of the street art and put hand spray painted gay over the official.
Like maybe some kid just did that to one and then everyone went, well, let's roll.
Or maybe it was like a kid in like a gang,
like,
uh,
what's that gang?
M M 13,
M 16.
Um,
Ryan knows.
Yeah.
We got to,
we got to get them out.
We got to build a wall.
But,
um,
but the,
um,
yeah.
So a lot of people thought that,
um,
that was just like a tagger tag gay on top of it or someone that was just like a tagger, the tag gay on top of it.
I hate to blow past building a wall.
No, I would love to talk about it.
Yeah.
So you have this idea for a gang wall that just goes up in front of billboards so that nobody can tag them.
That's right.
If you're going to – because here's what we're looking at.
Because here's what we're looking at.
When you spend the money and the time to make art and you put it out there and you promote it and you do a marketing campaign, the last thing you want is for some gang to come along and deface it.
And to disrespect your work, your time, your funny bloopers.
That's right.
Most of the people that go to movies are going to sit there for the blooper reel. So,
how are they going to know even where the movie
is playing if the movie
poster is defaced by gangs?
It creates embarrassing situations for me as well
where I see a billboard and naturally
if it sparks my interest, I will go straight to the movie
from seeing the billboard. And I'll ask for a
ticket for what I
think the movie is called. And you'll it loudly and i'll say from the back of the line one ticket for
logan fucky please for example yeah and then i find out that that's not what the movie is
called yeah and i'm shamed by all the gang members who are at the in line at the theater
they'll turn around exactly what happened yeah they laugh because they tricked you so what
so a wall that says no gangs.
So what we're trying to do is build a wall around movie posters, around movie marketing to keep out the gang members from defacing it, from drawing dicks on people's faces, from writing stuff like –
And you seem to be in an outsized number of movies with billboards that kind of lend themselves to being defaced.
That's right. A lot of times it's just you with your mouth wide open. number of movies with billboards that kind of lend themselves to being defaced.
That's right.
A lot of times it's just you with your mouth wide open.
Yeah.
A lot of times it's me. It's close-up shots of my face, you know, almost begging for like a big hairy dick in
my mouth.
To be going in or coming out.
The movie Imaginary Hoagie was a big, was one I remember a lot of people getting involved with.
Yeah, because if you go back and you look at the movie poster, yeah, I'm obviously sitting there smiling really wide with my mouth wide open with my tongue out.
Well, Surprise Party Coma as well where you walk in, are very surprised, and then immediately go to catatonic state. I get so shocked that I fall into a coma with my mouth wide open, surprised look on my face.
So when we did the marketing for that, they said, you know, what about just that, you know, iconic image?
Yeah, yeah.
Which after Imaginary Hoagie, you must have had some reservations about that.
Yeah. And so they, um, so again,
in both of those,
uh,
so many people drew dicks,
uh,
cum,
piss,
uh,
even like,
um,
have you ever seen it when they,
when someone will draw like,
uh,
like a little like choo-choo train of shit,
like going in your mouth,
you know,
it's like,
uh,
it's like the,
all the coal cars are loaded up with shit
yeah
one guy on a rickshaw
with the shit
right
so a lot of people
did that
and so
you know
after that experience
on imaginary hoagie
and
well and not to
I mean not to
sort of like
hammer you
but like the
you know the
the movie where you were
just getting something
from behind the couch yeah and you were just sort of so it's just kind of your butt in the air as you're like – you had like dropped some change behind the couch and you're bent over.
Bent over the couch.
Yeah, couch finder.
Thank you.
I couldn't remember.
But that's the thing is like when you spend the time, you spend the money, the effort to show up every day.
And you do the blooper reel.
To do the blooper reel.
Mm-hmm.
To, you know, I get there in the morning, I go into my triple banger, I'm excited to
do the work.
Mm-hmm.
And then when the movie poster comes out and it's me reaching over the couch and like you
can see, you know, a straight shot of my butt.
Yeah.
It is disappointing when gang members will come along and draw things like
a big dick going in on my butt.
All the way in.
Or like a big dick going in and out of my butt.
If they've got some motion lines, then you really fill in the blanks.
Multiple panels sometimes.
The dick is really hard.
Someone's made this cartoon super hard.
Oh, and of course, Kevin
comes in now. Okay, and Kevin
must have known somehow. And great timing,
Kev. What made you
want to come in now?
Jesus. Sid.
And he's sort of, I mean, he
is basically like one of these gang members
in terms of his sick, twisted
mind.
Can only think of.
He's certainly perverted enough to be a gang member.
It's a toughness issue at this point.
How are you at climbing walls?
I'm pretty good.
I can do it faster than most people, but I fall often.
It hurts.
He's a weak pervert.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah. Okay. Yeah, he's...
For a while, he was trying to get us to call him Peter Parkour, because he was, like, climbing
walls all the time.
Right.
Like a mix of Spider-Man and a parkour guy, where it was like, just be Spider-Man.
Just be Spider-Man at that point, because he can climb the wall, you know?
Yeah.
But, I don't know.
It's Kevin's thing.
It's not my thing.
You know, it's not my place.
But the tags on Gay Frog Forest were not,
it was not a gang member that was.
And I got us off that.
Did you want to talk more about that?
No, I mean.
Or Nasty Duck or what?
You know, like.
Oh, you wanted to hear a little sample of the voice.
Yeah, I guess I would love,
I would love,
if we could invite Nasty Duck into the room,
that would be really nice.
I will,
I will tell you that when I do The Voice, I will be completely unrecognizable physically.
For you guys looking at me here in this room, you won't be able to physically recognize me.
Where'd Rob go?
I'm in it.
Yeah.
And also for people listening to this recording or if you're streaming it live right now, if you're a nutritionist, say, driving around the block, you won't recognize me as me.
Is there a risk that they'll be transported to the forest when they hear this voice?
Physically, there's no actual – it's impossible for people to actually be transported to the forest.
But I'm saying potentially in their mind they can hallucinate that they'll be brought into the forest.
For sure, yeah.
If you're at work right now and you're listening to this.
Certainly their mind could be transported.
Yeah, that's right.
If you're reading a book, for example.
If you're like a what?
Reading a book, you could be transported in your mind.
You can sort of take a journey, a mental journey.
What do you mean?
Okay, well, Hayes, I mean, you know, Hayes has written a few books.
But, go ahead.
A book is like, so I took a class on this.
And a book is like a movie that is lying down.
Instead of – you know how a movie is like standing up on the screen?
Yeah, yeah.
It's lying down.
And it can cut you.
Yes, and it's sharp.
It's way sharper.
And that – so you take a mental – I guess I just got a little bit lost with the way you were describing.
You can look at it.
You look at it and you take a mental journey.
And it can transform you.
It's tricking you.
It's telling you lies in just a – it's like a flat – they're not a square, you know.
No.
But they're sharp.
You find a square one, you have to turn it in.
I think I know what you mean.
And if you look at it for too long, it will trick you.
So in a lot of the same way, yeah, if you're at work right now and you're listening to the sounds of our voices,
what I'm about to do might cause you to have a mental hallucination or a journey.
You could go on a journey, lose yourself.
It's vocal DMT.
In this fantasy.
It's the God molecule.
Yeah.
Nasty duck.
I'm a nasty duck. I'm a nasty duck.
I'm a nasty duck.
And that's it.
Oh, my God.
I'm back.
Oh, thank God.
I mean, no matter how much you front porch that, it never won't be shocking and scary for me.
There's a fair amount of front porching.
The crouching.
There was some front porching.
I wish people listening could see the crouching component.
Well, as I said, physically part of what I do is you have to get there.
You have to do the work physically to do the character space.
There is another question I had about Nasty Duck,
which is that this character is a human man
who is threatening
to bulldoze the forest.
The gay frog forest.
Yeah.
He refers to it as frog forest.
Everybody in the movie calls it frog forest.
I guess now after just seeing so much vandalism
in my mind, it's still...
Yeah, you almost misremember your lines.
Yeah, but he'sremember your lines.
But yeah, he's a human man.
He hates the frog forest.
He doesn't want them jumping and splashing.
He doesn't want the lily pads around.
He wants to bulldoze.
What is a pond and swampland, which doesn't – feels like the bulldozer will just get in the water. Well, what he wants to do really is drain the swamp.
Oh, is that what this was about?
Drain the swamp.
Right.
is Drain the Swamp.
Oh, is that what this was about?
Drain the Swamp.
Right.
And by the way,
this was before the producers and writers
of this movie
came up with Drain the Swamp.
Okay.
Before Barack Obama
came up with Drain the Swamp.
Right.
Wow.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it was,
but it was after
I came up with
Drain the Lizard.
That's right.
That's right.
So it's a little bit.
These like chains of inspiration are really just a little bit.
Yeah, these scientific discoveries that will happen on two sides of the globe at the same time.
It's group thought.
It's group think.
There's a collective.
No one has ownership over any idea.
We can all share these ideas.
They did this fascinating study a few years ago where there were a group of people that would do a crossword puzzle every morning.
That's right.
I remember reading about this on BuzzFeed.
Oh, well, please help because I don't know what I'm saying.
I remember it.
It's a group of people doing a crossword.
It's a group of people.
It's the same BuzzFeed article that I read.
Yeah.
It's a group of people.
It's the same BuzzFeed article that I read.
It's a group of people across the different countries in the world that were doing crosswords at the same time.
Is it right?
This is one that you read? Something, yes.
That sounds so right.
But in this study, a lot of crossword fans did crosswords at the same time and people were blown away.
Yeah, they did it from all
over the world. And the
puzzles, right? Am I
remembering this right? I think it's the same one.
And the puzzles were like filled
with letters.
I'm picturing them all in their garb doing the
same puzzle. Well, if you think about it,
because people all over
the world are going to be wearing over the world are they're going to
be wearing different garbs you know they're going to be wearing different um i don't wear the same
clothes that like a uh kimono guy a kimono guy yeah or like a like a kimono lady yeah no exactly
yeah yeah yeah like women they make them you know or you know if you if you travel all the way to
the other corner of the globe and there's a an Eskimo guy in like a kimono.
Yeah, like a thin parka that's silk that ties around the waist.
Yeah, or you go to like –
With no hood.
Yeah, and you go to like the Middle East and the people there wearing their kimonos.
Yeah, they do, yeah.
Or in Africa, the people over there wearing their – With their colorful kimonos. Yeah, they do. Or in Africa, the people over there wearing their colorful kimonos.
Yes, so many
vibrant, gorgeous,
beautiful
kimonos there.
Just absolutely stunning.
So there's people, if you can imagine, all
the peoples of the world
doing these crossword puzzles together.
At the same time. Filling in letters.
And no matter your garb, right,
what I'm remembering a little bit from the article that BuzzFeed wrote was
you fill the puzzle.
That's right.
Eventually you're going to put a letter into a box that you write,
and then hopefully, you know, it says a word.
What an amazing study to have.
Yeah.
No, they did such a fascinating study, and I just love writing.
They're always doing these studies.
That's one of my favorite things is these different studies that are constantly going on.
You know, because if you think about the situation that we are all in now in the world,
you know, and all of the problems and all of the issues,
how are we going to get out of them if we don't have more studies?
Well, I mean, as long as we're on that subject, I hate to use this perfect segue you brought up.
But we did want to talk a little bit about when you played Professor Snowboard in –
Snowboard Professor.
Yeah.
I'm sorry.
Yes.
Snowboard Professor in Bong Hit Hotel. Yeah. I'm sorry. Yes. Snowboard Professor in Bong Hit Hotel.
Yeah.
So do you – obviously the blooper reel wound up being almost the entire film for this one.
Yeah.
Do you want to talk a little bit about the process?
Was there a script?
It seemed like it was a lot of fun to shoot.
Yeah.
The story was thin because it was almost all bloopers.
Yeah.
And that there is a professor at a hotel, I guess, is my big – that's sort of a lingering mystery of the movie.
It's really why would there be a snowboard professor in a bong-hit hotel?
back from what you're doing in your day-to-day life, in your job, at your cubicle, whatever it is that you do every day, you have to ask yourself, why would there be a snowboard professor
at a bong-hit hotel?
So obviously, one of the main reasons would be in the blooper reel.
Yes.
So that's why the blooper reel was so long.
But I think we have a clip or there might be a clip.
Yeah, no.
Ryan, did you want to load up the clip?
My nutritionist was supposed to send a clip over.
Yeah, it's loading.
Checking in.
Is there going to be any snowboarding?
Sorry, did you – oh, I was talking to someone else.
Oh, I was – oh, this person is ahead of me?
Erno, is he supposed to – sorry.
I can't.
I just – sorry.
I'm sorry.
Should we take it again?
Yeah.
I mean – I didn't realize you – I'm sorry. I thought we were – We'm sorry. Should we take it again? Yeah. I mean.
I didn't realize you, I'm sorry.
I thought we were.
We should have memorized.
We should have memorized our lines. We should have.
We should have.
You know what this feels like?
This feels like a blooper.
They should put this in the blooper reel.
Oh, this is supposed to be.
This is making the blooper reel.
I realize the guy is supposed to be back there behind the camera.
Okay.
Wait.
This is making the blooper reel.
I was having so much fun hanging out
with you guys i am supposed to be on the other side i thought that you were in the movie i didn't
know that you was i'm over here okay congratulations you just made the blooper reel you know what i
can't wait to see so many bloopers.
It'll be fun.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, let's get to see.
Let's take it again.
Let's go back to one.
So that was a very short clip.
No, the movie's a lot.
The movie's mostly bloopers.
It's mostly bloopers, and it's a long movie.
Well, it was long to make, I'll tell you that, because one of the problems on set was I would come out of my double banger and the camera guy would be like in front of the camera.
Right.
It seems like in that clip, yeah, that that was one of the issues.
You can't see anything because he seems to be just looking into the wrong side of the camera. That's the problem is that I don't know whether he was licensed to even be operating the camera because so much of what he was doing was in front of the camera.
And then he was – I mean if you go back and you look at the movie, he's all over the blooper reel.
Yeah.
And he's the one who seems to be mostly pushing the idea that hotels have classes.
He seems to like really truly believe this.
Yeah.
So much that he's convincing everyone else on set of this reality.
Yeah.
Should we take a look at another clip?
Do you want to just pull another clip?
Yeah.
Well, I mean, do we – I don't even know if we have one.
I don't know.
Did your nutritionist – Ryan, did the –
Did my nutritionist send more than one clip?
Gregor?
Yeah, there's another one.
I could call him because he's listening to this live.
What do you want to do?
Like it's your show.
I'm not sure that he will pick up, but let me just see if he might pick up.
Okay.
I don't know if I – I think I have him under – how do you spell nutritionist?
It's N-E-W.
Let me see.
N-E-W-T-R-I-S-H.
Yeah.
I-O-N-I-Z-T.
Yes.
It's definitely not in here.
Oh, wait, wait.
Here it is.
Here it is.
Yeah, here it is. he's not picking up he's not picking up well let's just play one of the clips. Let's just play.
He has an expensive.
I think we sent two clips.
Or even just play the movie if you want to just.
I think I have it loaded up on that.
Okay.
It's one of my favorites.
Does the movie make a sound when it starts to play?
Ryan, can you load it?
Yep.
Hi.
Hi.
I'm sorry. Sorry. Sorry. No, I was just going to. Yeah. I'll just do it. I'll just do it. I'll just do it. You're the first guy. I'm sorry.
Sorry.
Sorry.
No, I was just going to.
Yeah, I'll just do it.
I'll just do it.
Yeah, you're the first guy.
I'm going to check in for the snowboarding competition.
Sorry.
Is it?
Are you checking in also?
I was going to say I'm here to request a late checkout.
Okay.
Well, I'm checking into the Bong Hit Hotel. Yeah. Well, I'm checking into the Bong Hit Hotel.
Yeah, well, we're all at the Bong Hit Hotel.
No, it's just been a stressful week.
Okay, this is what it is.
Yes, I had both of you guys trying to talk to a receptionist.
Why does your jacket say director and cameraman?
Yes.
So here's the thing.
I am filling in for the director who has a personal problem.
Shouldn't you be behind the camera?
Yeah.
The camera's right here.
I am working with.
Yeah, but you're on the wrong end of the camera.
No, this is the shiny...
He's actually on the wrong side of it.
You're on the wrong side.
Okay, well, you guys are messing it up too.
Hey, buddy.
Okay, no.
Hey, buddy.
I got good news for you.
Well, you guys are doing things wrong too
because you guys are supposed to be in class
and you're acting...
Well, you're supposed to be filming...
Is there a class at the hotel
yes
you know what
you know what this feels like
I swear
this feels like
don't say it
this feels like a mistake
don't
okay
this is like a
movie mistake
this is like an oopsie
okay
you just
yeah you just made the oopsie zone
of the movie at the end
okay well ultimately
this could go on
the movie mistake reel
okay
it could
yeah I mean just thinking about it it's kind of funny on the movie mistake reel. Okay. It could.
I mean.
Just thinking about it.
It's kind of funny.
I'm having a great time.
I'm sorry I got so mad at you guys.
But this scene should be a class.
Hotels do have classes.
Yeah, that clip is. So that was, yeah, kind of short, I mean, actually.
That was a shorter scene from the blooper reel.
They get shorter as they go on.
As the movie goes, yeah, it seems like the cameraman was the editor.
I will say now watching it, I had more fun on the movie
than I remember.
Yeah.
And it sounded like
if you had a double banger
for that movie,
you sort of took a haircut
for that one, it sounds like,
for artistic reasons.
That's right.
I was in a triple banger,
but then I got demoted
to a double banger.
But that was mainly
because of the haircut.
I think it's...
Okay.
What did you guys make
the bong hits out of
in that?
What was the effect that you used?
Yeah, they actually used real bong hits.
Wow.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Because it was cheaper.
And this is what makes this podcast so good.
It's practical.
The current model in Hollywood is practical effects because it's cheaper and it's faster.
And it looks better.
You can feel when it's CGI.
You can feel it.
I'm sorry.
There's a texture there that seems real.
There's like a sort of a hyper-reality to it.
If it's real as opposed to CGI or green screen or Andy Serkis.
So, yes, in so many movies now,
people will be taking a huge rip off of Andy Serkis.
Yeah.
Or a tennis ball.
That's right.
Or a ping pong ball.
Yeah, or just a blue suit.
Yeah, or like a guy from the Blue Man Group.
And then you have to go back and spend the money and the time.
To do a worse version of it.
Yeah, that's right.
And in so many of those movies, people got the color.
Like, the Blue Man does not cut out visually.
No, he doesn't.
He is not green.
It would be easier if it was like a Green Man group.
That would have been really nice.
For everybody.
And it would just be better to watch.
It would be so depressing.
When you think about it now, it would be hard to ask those guys who do the Blue Man Group to change up the whole theme of their show.
The balloon is such a huge part of it.
It's such a big part of it.
Now people really associate blue with the Blue Man Group.
And I think they like that they have to stay in the movie, honestly.
I think they do, too.
I think they do, too.
It hasn't really hurt them.
Between you, me, and the freaking microphone.
Right.
What else do we like to do on this show?
Should we just do a moment of silence?
That could be pretty strippy.
For the people out there that have a practical use for a moment of silence,
we could just do one.
If they just want to get room to them.
Yeah, you could throw one out there
for anyone that's
you know, that feels like today would be
a good day for a moment of silence for anything.
If you need a moment of silence
or if you're cutting a film
and you forgot to get room to them. We have talked about
selling room to them as like the primary
purpose of this podcast. So that
would be really nice.
So it's still purpose.
So let's do the moment of silence.
I'm going to shut up finally.
I'm sure that's a relief for you, Rob.
For sure.
He's getting heavy.
Yeah.
We're goofing, but it's all good.
For sure.
Nice to have some.
So quick moment of silence.
Yeah.
Nasty duck. Nasty duck.
Nasty duck.
Nasty duck.
R.I.P.
Yeah.
R.I.P.
Yeah.
And it's interesting.
R.I.P.
Yes.
It's interesting, yeah, that the – He only ever said his name, Nasty Duck. Yeah.P. Yeah, and it's interesting. R.I.P. R.I.P. Yes. It's interesting, yeah, that the – he only ever said his name, Masty Duck.
Yeah.
But he did want to bulldoze the pond.
He seems to be miming that he wants to bulldoze the pond.
He's kind of marching around it like he's making –
Yeah.
One of these.
Yeah.
Yeah. One of these. Yeah. Yeah. The more I think about the people involved in vandalizing the posters, it is infuriating.
And you want to build a wall, which is actually several walls.
We need to build several individual walls around various billboards, movie posters.
Bus benches. Bus benches.
Bus benches.
But what if, say the wall says no gangs, just anticipating,
what if they vandalize it to say go gangs?
So what you're saying is if we spent the money and the time
to build all of these individual walls,
and on the front of the wall it said no gangs,
and then they come along and have the fucking balls to
change it to go gang or now gangs yeah now like it's time for gangs right now
oh well they could say that i hope that they're not listening to this podcast yeah well what i
would say is let's build a second wall. Let's build a second wall.
That's right.
Let's build a wall around the...
Well, that I've been asking for forever.
Scott Angerman's kind of a cheapskate.
So you're saying build a wall
around the first wall.
I say around the no gangs wall,
you have a first wall that says like,
hey, don't do anything crazy
to this wall behind this one.
Yeah.
And we're looking at a field so that the podcast
will zap you if you're in a gang.
He's calling you back.
Yeah, hold on. Gregor?
Hey, it's Rob Buebel.
Hey, man.
Yeah, I'm just
doing the podcast that you're listening to.
Huh?
Yeah.
Oh.
Well, I'll be out in a little bit.
Yeah, if you just keep circling the block, I'll be out.
Yeah.
No, everything's going.
They're not making me eat candy at all.
No, I'm not going to eat any more candy.
Yeah. Okay, I'm not going to eat any more candy. Yeah.
Okay, I'll bring you a cat.
Yum, yum, yum, cat, yum.
Okay, I'll talk to you later.
Love you.
Well, it sounds like you've got to go.
That's my nutritionist.
Yeah, okay.
All right.
Were you guys listening in?
Did you hear any of that?
I wasn't able to hear, you know.
No, I wasn't either.
I have these big headphones on.
Yeah.
Oh, that's cool.
Did we get enough room tone?
Let's get one more quick thing of room tone,
and then Hazel will steer us on out.
Yep.
My nasty dog.
My nasty dog.
My nasty dog.
Bye.
Bye.
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