Hollywood Handbook - Sarah Hagi, Our Close Friend
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this is a head gum podcast
so you know this like this is a perfect example of what we want to talk about
it's perfect and also like kind of exposes us in a way no that's what i mean like this is what we
need to this is an area this has to be addressed yes
it has to be addressed and as long as we're coming to it from that place then it's like
it's less embarrassing but still it's like doing it in front of sarah and just playing our like one
our one like tiny little music which is now already over it's ended and it's um and it's old.
It's so old.
Doesn't it feel dated?
Because Sarah's podcast has so much music.
There's actually music through the entire thing.
The whole music.
I'm trying to imagine.
And it's so now.
There would still be music playing right now.
What I'm saying now would be over music?
Yes. And right now? and for so much longer than this
picture a podcast for just for people who listen to our show we want to talk a little bit about what sarah does which is okay picture a podcast doesn't have to be mine it probably should be now picture it's got music the whole time
is that accurate sir sarah haggie yeah are you here i'm here i'm here i was just listening i um
what's up dude uh i'm chilling man yeah same same same. Yeah. No, I am chilling, actually. Thank you for bringing that up
because I have been chilling
and isn't it the best?
Yeah, you seem really relaxed.
Yeah, yeah, I am.
Yeah, no.
People have been noticing, actually,
that I'm very relaxed.
I'm not having a nervous breakdown lately.
No, I don't think you are okay so you agree great
so yeah good so that's out of the way so anybody who wants to ask me like just refer to this
podcast sarah can practically see me and said that that's not what's happening for me no not sarah Sarah, writer of the news.
Right?
Yeah, sometimes.
Who did get your ideas for the news?
Oh, my God.
I really, I wish I had a good answer for you, but.
Me too.
Me too.
I just kind of wait for it to happen, and then.
No, but imagine the show.
If you had a really good answer, we'd be off.
I know.
I'm sorry. We'd be off and running. No, no, no, no, no, no. No, please, the show. If you had a really good answer, we'd be off and running.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
No, please, please, please.
Okay, where do I get my ideas?
I wait for things to happen, and then I, I don't know,
I just kind of twist them into something that people might want to read, you know?
It's tragedy plus time plus a twisted mind.
Yeah, exactly, yeah.
Just go ahead and put it through the mind. Yeah, exactly. Just go ahead and put it through the blender.
Yeah, exactly.
And you are the co-host
of Scamfluencers.
Co-host
in this...
A ghost?
To me means coach.
The co is for coach.
Coach host.
I'd say so, yeah.
Because you're in there hosting. It's like a for coach. Coach host. I'd say so, yeah. Because you're in there hosting.
It's like a player coach.
You're calling the plays.
In sports, yes.
You've got the clipboard to the side.
But you're also out there.
Is there a player coach in sports?
Oh, Sarah.
So this is actually something we do know about,
unlike the news.
Okay.
There used to be. There used to be.
There used to be, and then they had to stop because they were so good.
But any one of them at any given time could get out there.
Obviously, they know how to play the game better than anyone else.
That's why they're coaching the game.
It sounds kind of unfair, if you ask me.
And so it would destroy competitive sport
as we know it.
You're from Canada, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm in Toronto.
You say sports.
You say sports instead of sports.
Toronto.
Yeah.
Been there.
It would destroy sport
and the sporting life
as we know it.
So, are you friends with Brody?
Yeah, I would say so.
Get her on the horn.
Look.
Call her.
Okay.
I'll say this.
Is she the worst guest we've ever had on our podcast?
Yes.
Well, okay.
I was thinking of someone else, but I'm realizing, no, we didn't ever actually do that episode.
We had a worst guest book are you thinking of are you thinking of are you possibly think of who was in that episode was it was it maybe brothe oh we did do the episode it was brothe
okay yeah yes that's right i had that same thought process it was like wait oh that actually was her because it yeah i think i sort of suppressed it in a way the recording was so uncomfortable let's call her though let's call
her let's get her on the horn did you tell her you were doing the show i did tell her i was doing
this i actually was just talking to her i told her i was i was gonna do this and i asked her for some advice killer mic screen is that your house yeah is that at your house this is in my house
um okay the only reason why i have kevin up right now is because i was recording my podcast
earlier um i didn't set this up for this yeah Yeah, yeah. They're very strict about that.
But here's the thing, Sarah. Kevin, why don't I have this?
But Sarah, I just want to...
This is confusing to me because I am recording my
podcast right now. Yes.
And I don't have that.
Kevin, why doesn't Hayes have this?
You have to talk to Kevin. So that's what's
confusing because you have it because you were recording
your podcast before.
Earlier this afternoon. So you have it because you were recording your podcast before earlier this
afternoon so you have it because you were recording a good nice podcast yeah i am recording my own
podcast actually right now as i as we as i speak which is what i do what i do the podcast just so
i can walk through it if you hadn't been recording your podcast you would not have used that for just our podcast.
It wouldn't have been worth, I guess,
the process of assembling it.
That's the implication, certainly.
She said it's the only reason.
She says it's the only reason that she has that.
She said it's the only reason.
I heard that.
Only reason.
But that's only because I wouldn't want to seem like too-
Careful with only.
You've made one mistake.
Kind of like a loser who just does this for fun, you know?
Uh-huh.
So it would be more me trying to be cool than disrespect to you, you know?
Scanfluencers is on Wondery.
Yes.
Wondery's different.
You know what I call it?
Wonder why.
Wondery is different different doggie right
yeah it is because that's what it says wonder why like that how do we like how do we get
like because that it's what you come to expect right and that's what they said like
to to their hosts if you know you're you're fulfilling the wondery standard yeah every
time you get on the mic yes it's got to sound wondery good it has to sound good enough that
no one's thinking about anything else in what I'm saying.
They're not thinking about a noise or anything else.
A popping pee.
Yeah, a popping pee.
That's their biggest fear.
That is their biggest fear.
Earwolf just said that we had to wear shoes.
That was the only standard when we were... So we used to be on this network called called earwolf and they didn't give a fuck about how it sounded they said that all they all they
cared about is that we showed up we had to be wearing shoes and that wasn't even down in a
chair and said we don't give a fuck how you sound yes even if your own home in your own put those
stinking hogs away they pointed at my my feet. I had my feet out.
And the reason for that is not for anything related to cleanliness or whatever.
It's so they can sell podcasts where the hosts are not wearing shoes as a higher tier.
That's a premium add-on.
That's a premium, I'd say.
So you guys aren't wearing shoes now.
No, we are.
We haven't graduated that.
They said they can't sell ads on our piggies is what they said.
Yeah.
That was how it was explained to me.
But no, we are wearing shoes.
But you agree that that's a good premium add-on.
But something you should know about Earwolf is they failed.
They don't exist anymore at all.
Oh, man. That really sucks. I didn't know that. I so sorry gone i'm done matter to me you know i'm really sorry that they don't exist anymore it's only my life but you're here so you know
where is here where i don't know where you are you in a, you're very far away in a room, in a big room.
Kevin wanted to add more scope to the show.
Mm-hmm.
He just was saying that it just like doesn't feel like,
you don't feel the world.
He said it was claustrophobic.
Yeah.
And so the camera's not very far away.
Okay.
Yeah, I get a sense of that.
He wanted to be sitting on top of his car
while he's driving around.
This was a compromise.
Scanfluencers,
10 binge-worthy podcasts I'm wondering
that you do not want to miss.
Wonder why?
Who said that?
BuzzFeed.
Mm-hmm.
Oh, that's nice.
I didn't know that.
I know it was buzz-fed by it.
Yeah. More food for the buzz it's number two wow that's looking up at the at the at the smart list guys you know cost of doing
business over there i guess those smart list guys man what are they like around the around the office? Yeah. I haven't been allowed to be around them.
I'll say that much.
Okay.
They got their own little section.
Velvet ropes.
And you say I'll say that much,
but that I guess would be everything
since you haven't been allowed to.
Yeah, there'd be nothing else to say.
You have no other observations about that
because you've never been allowed
to see them, talk to them.
You ever bump into D dirty john around the office dirty john there and his scrubs yeah uh was dirty john the doctor i thought that
is that's dr death oh i don't want sarah excuse i don't want to get in trouble yes and i don't
want to dispel you of any notions about dirty john or whether he actually is a doctor so
i'll say for your purposes yes dirty john is just a normal doctor he's just a doctor
nothing to worry about there but he's a dirty doctor. Nothing to worry about there. Dirt why, John? But he's a dirty doctor.
Is that what he did?
Well, doctoring's dirty work.
The whole world's a little dirty, isn't it?
Who's to say?
Yeah, there's a lot of filth.
All of us are trying to operate in the world.
There's a filth over everything.
We pick up a little dirt just by moving through this world.
So we're all dirty Johns, really.
Mm-hmm.
Throw a music bed under it.
Cover up the scum.
I mean, that's what they're doing.
Put a fine sheen on the absolute filth.
on the absolute filth.
Sarah, the challenge we face in addition to not having resources
or listeners is...
Or friends.
When we have tried to do the thing that you do,
because obviously it's like how you unlock so much.
It's like...
Oh, my God god the quality of
the show the the clientele you attract when you put a a class a high class music bed in there
oh yeah um it polishes it all up doesn doesn't it? It signals to the listener.
It levels up.
Wait a minute.
Yeah.
I mean, it's, you know, and it goes back to olden time of entertainment, right?
It's the symphony.
It's the orchestra playing beneath the players upon the stage.
Yeah.
And it tells them, you know, we're here with like a calliope music
it's like a
organ grinder
even if we had that that would be amazing
I like the song you guys have at the beginning
it says your names
forget the song forget that song
that's great it's a personal song for you
please forget the song
that song because one it's short
and we can't just keep playing it
over and over again. We've tried that.
But they're talking, and it's, yeah.
Kevin said it makes his finger hurt.
It's not even actually a song. It makes his finger hurt
to press the button, so
even one more time is not
an option. Kevin said to us,
and I didn't ask him
about it at the time, and I won't ask him about it now,
but he said, I can't keep starting this song over.
It makes my finger hurt, and I need it for later.
Ugh.
Oh.
Ew.
No, that's, yes.
That's why.
I don't want him to explain it, but I didn't want to hear it again.
I assume it is, but I didn't want to hear it again.
Anything you need for later is disgusting.
I think so too.
So I was like, well, let's just forget that song.
Because it feels like it's invited Kevin to give me more details every time.
And so I think what we need to do is find another.
I'm so sorry I brought it up.
No, no, no, no.
You didn't know.
Yeah.
I'm sorry that I told you.
Like, now you have to know what I did.
Yeah, I don't want to think about that anymore. no one wants to think about that except kevin that's all i think
about okay stop and it could be i mean we i we assume you're gonna use your finger at some point
like over the course of the rest of the day of course course, yes. You open your phone or whatever. But the fact that he's saving it
later, that's the part that gets
in my head. There's something
in particular.
We know that he has
to
ring the doorbell so that they can let
him back into
jail every night.
I'm sorry, Kevin.
You've been nothing but nice to me.
Well, they let him go. Don't be sorry.
They let him go out and do whatever he wants
all day.
That's a good arrangement.
It's a great arrangement.
You don't pay for that?
I pay for it.
I cook everyone at the jail uh a midnight snack when i
get back i say let me do anything i want but when i come back i make a softest pudding you ever
taste boys softest pudding you ever taste boys
what oh my god i'll tell you my secret i'll tell you my secret sarah no
see this is what he does if you if you open the door a little tiny bit he kicks it off the hinges
it starts explaining his secret pudding recipe uh softest pudding you ever taste boys he wanted that to be a shirt
a onesie he thought that should be a shirt what's what's the secret i know we're not
gonna get out of this without we have to okay fine just say it yeah say it say it say it say it
it's grandma cinnamon that would have made it softer that would have made it softer
what is it gonna do
what is that gonna do
it's also not something that can be grandma's
it's just an ingredient
it's always the same
grandma's is finite
yeah
you put grandma's in front of something
people trust it
everyone trusts their freaking grandmamas and moms for that.
My mom's lasagna.
My grandma's this.
That's Kevin's plan.
It's grandma's everything.
So nobody questions it.
But maybe we should look a little deeper because grandma's cinnamon implies to me that cinnamon's not the only ingredient.
Grandma's secret cinnamon.
Grandma's cinnamon has something else going on.
I've said too much.
I've said too much.
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so we have tried this when you say tried this what When you say tried this, what is this?
Putting some class, real class music in our show.
We were going to make a real podcast at one point.
Yes.
Funny to look back now.
There's an issue every time.
Kevin, do you have some music you can play?
I can show you a little bit.
This is how it always goes.
How it sounds, yeah.
Yeah.
And then the unthinkable happened.
The man's wife came home and found...
I'm sorry.
This shit is a vibe.
Damn. i'm sorry this shit is a vibe it's i'm i think music can sometimes make things a bit too scary like that okay so i i mean but that's what every time i get kind of like that has happened
we're about to get to the unthinkable which is yeah my understanding
is that's a big part of the wonder why brand it is yeah yes that's right the unthinkable happened
the unthinkable happened to dr john he never knew it was gonna happen yes uh it's and like you know
there's always like a cliff like that where it's and you'll and he'll never guess where he ended up.
And at some point you're like, well, this shit happens in every episode of every show.
Like how unthinkable can this actually be?
When is this going to become thinkable for someone involved in one of these stories?
I don't know.
But, you know, people they're not thinking it.
I'll tell you that much.
They're not. The problem is thinkable is that a name for like a smart list spinoff
the thinkable thinkable by smart list thinkable by smart list a wonder why production oh yeah they can come up with they yeah i i... That's a vibe. That is a vibe.
But the problem is loving music too much, Sarah.
Like, when it's playing,
I will be captured by it. It's so hard to record.
I will, like...
Okay, I have to tell you something.
Just be consumed by it.
I will find it to be a vibe.
I get lost in the tunes.
I have to tell you something.
When I'm recording my show,
I don't know those sounds.
I don't hear them when I'm talking.
You said, I don't know those sounds?
No, I don't know when they're coming up.
Like Mariah, right?
I'm talking.
I don't know her.
I'm telling the story.
Sorry to this sound. I don't know when those sounds appear. I don't know her. I'm telling the story. Sorry to this.
I don't know when those sounds appear.
I don't hear them.
They put those in way later.
I have nothing to do with the music or sounds.
So you just tell a story and then there's sounds.
Yeah.
Try that.
Yeah.
I will say listening to your show, it does show.
You can feel it yeah that you're
you're you're not on beat at all not to be critical not to be critical um and it's that's
that's a choice it's torture to listen to yes i've heard that but that's what the people want
you know yeah some people do really want that so people enjoy
it it's true yes and who am i to say no to a buck that's right i'm not gonna say no the pay
pigs line up what are you gonna say i'm not gonna go back in the barn no no not at all
you're gonna say squeal squeal piggy yeah i say squeal. Squeal piggy. Yeah, I don't know.
We're just trying to give the listener
the most pleasurable experience of their lives.
And so we're also just so meticulously involved
in every single aspect of the production.
And our voices are part of the melody.
Kevin, can you give me a music bed
and I can just try something?
Jacob got into the car
like it was any other morning.
What he couldn't have known
was what was in
the back seat.
Can anyone else hear that?
Am I the only one hearing that?
Is that my heartbeat?
I think we're all hearing something different.
And that's the magic of being a podcaster.
You don't know what the other person's hearing.
You simply will never know.
That's true.
And everyone does hear something different.
And people come up to me and like,
I liked this part or i didn't like sometimes this part of the podcast that you did i'm like what are you talking about yeah i go that wasn't even a part of it for
me yeah i didn't even do that yeah so that'll always happen when sean is doing it sean will say
can anyone else hear that?
Yeah.
I just start to get freaked out that I'm like, is this happening?
Like, is something wrong with my body?
Because I don't usually hear those kinds of sounds when I'm talking.
And it gets me kind of upset.
How do you move past that?
This is the problem. I'm asking you for your help.
Oh, you want to know how i
get past it got it it's like okay what do you oh i'm talking about here i thought you guys had your
own like you guys have been doing this for way longer yeah but we have not been able to figure
out this one element of it i this is this is you as a mechanic i I'm like, hey, my car won't start. You're like, oh, geez, how do you figure out what's wrong with it?
You have to, you just have to embrace that you don't know.
And you should be okay with that.
You don't know.
I'm embracing that you don't know right now.
I don't know.
I'm being forced to. I don't know. I'm being forced to.
I don't know what I'm doing.
They just tell me what to do and I do it.
You need someone to tell you what to do.
And you guys don't have that.
I guess I'm the pay pig.
You know?
Somebody tell me what to do.
You need someone to tell you what to do.
And that's my job.
Someone tells me what to do, I do it.
Okay. All right. and this is the problem kind of a bad boy though with being your own boss yeah exactly kind of a bad boy a
bad a rebel but also the boss of the entire business yeah you'm simultaneously both the man and the most punk rock fucker on the entire planet.
And it's like, it's a balancing act.
I'll say that much.
Yeah, it doesn't sound fun.
At least I have Kevin.
Does Kevin not tell you what to do?
Kevin won't upgrade to like,
so we've talked about this many times on the show.
One of the biggest problems with music
and one of the
mostly kind of intractable issues with it is that you cannot see it no it's not tangible when it's
like you don't actually know like for sean did it start forever like has it started for everyone
is it still going is it supposed to be? Is now what I'm hearing something happening to my brain?
This could all be solved
if Kevin were to upgrade to
a Winamp visualizer.
Yeah.
He's not doing that?
No, he will not get the good visualizer.
He refused.
I got the L-amp.
The lamp.
I love L-amp. I don't know why he's not doing that wait so i
don't really get it though you're you guys are in charge but you're waiting for kevin
to do things for you without telling like i just don't understand the hierarchy here i asked i i
asked him if he'll do it sorry you're telling him are you asking him i told him hey i want you to do
this yes he's concerned about the impact that trippy visuals will have on our on our performance
yeah which like for me you get too excited or what i have i have synesthesia oh a lot of girls and so it is primarily a girl thing i've
i i've noticed i think of it as like a girl thing yeah but then i then i also think of it as i have
it haze has it none of my guy friends have it except sean of course like we both have it
yeah it's definitely girls who sing pop music all have it.
Yeah, isn't it funny?
Yeah, and we're both actually very naturally musical as well.
No training, but it's, yeah.
I mean, we experience music in a more intense way
if you combine it with the visuals.
I don't know where I'll end up.
But I don't see it.
I can taste colors.
I taste, yeah. I can end up. But I don't see it. I can taste colors. I taste, yeah.
I can taste one color.
I taste touch.
It's orange.
And it is more specific than the color.
So, okay.
And you, Hayes, you taste touch.
When I touch something with my fingers, yes, I could.
So are you saving that
finger sometimes in my mouth no absolutely not like i'm actually withholding it most of the time
because the impact is so severe it's like my entire mouth is full of whatever the thing is that
no that's the same with me when i touch an orange i can taste it right afterwards if I suck on my hand.
That's classic.
Classic synesthesia.
Well, yeah.
And it's very confusing.
Does it make me a great artist?
Creative?
Yeah, I guess so.
I guess that's fair for you to put that label on me, Sarah.
But it also presents some challenges.
Does it make you a better podcaster?
What would you say?
What we're learning. But what we're learning. Sorry, I can't get we're learning sorry i can't get out of interview i can't get out of interview i'm so sorry i know
i know i understand the same thing happens it's so hard to step away it's so hard yeah it's so
hard yeah look who you're telling but i'll go back to being casual but i am curious you know
does it help the cans never come off, right?
They never come off.
They never come off.
I'm always on.
I try to walk away and I put my whole computer off the desk.
Because the cans are still on.
I've never heard of them being referred to as cans, but I knew instantly what you meant.
Well, because you're from Canada.
I mean, it would be insanely
confusing yeah would be like it was called headphones of death yeah no it's true but
we call them cans here they call me oscar the grout because i sleep in the cans damn um do you guys have canadians on here often
it's have we ever had any other ones to it i know we have oh uh yeah we had like your we had
annie murphy up in this piece yeah we had your like main mascot dave thomas
dave thomas been a couple times one of One of the McKenzie brothers. Dave Thomas.
Yes.
Yeah.
Strange Brew.
The McKenzie brothers.
Bob and Doug McKenzie.
No.
I don't know him.
Yes.
I thought you meant the one.
Oh, Mariah's back.
When he said Dave Thomas, I thought I was like the Wendy's guy.
Sorry to this man.
I am sorry. I don't know him, but I'm sure he's great. I thought Dave Thomas was theendy's guy sorry to this man i am sorry i don't know him but i'm sure he's great i thought
dave thomas was the wendy's guy and then in my mind i was like is he canadian and then i realized
you're talking about someone else ctv um no it's under fire this is this is the canadian version
of mariah carey and jennifer lopez she knows who dave thomas is they're the equivalent of those celebrities in
canada the competition i'll just say he can't sing the way i can that's all i'm gonna say
say this shit we cannot get involved in this it's not because we we love all of our guests. Yes. Except fucking Brody.
Oh, my God.
Just was like, wow, so uncomfortable.
Why did you guys have her on?
Do something.
Multiple times.
I got tricked.
Multiple times.
I got tricked.
Yeah.
You know how you like.
The second time was just supposed to be her apologizing for the first time.
Like to our listeners and to us.
Oh, she's never said sorry ever in all the years
i've known her do you know sometimes you like put something on a stain that you're like okay well
that made an even worse stain no you you don't know about that you don't you don't know about it
no i've never done that to a stain you're just like oh i gotta get this out well i better
put something like really extreme on it yeah what gets out chocolate ketchup yeah oh well now the
chocolate is still there but now there's also a ketchup scene as well that's what it's like
having broken the under for the second time oh wow i'm sorry i'm sorry you had to experience that
i know it's i know how it is
with her sometimes and whatever we don't have to get into that it's not well let's call her right
now let's call her who wants to call her i'll call her where's my phone maybe this will be the word
that okay i'm gonna give her gets the stain out you know we'll see if she picks up she doesn't
sometimes you know sometimes you just gotta throw
the shirt away okay i'm calling her maybe that's what this call is it's time to sever all that's
so interesting i was picturing a rug oh really isn't that interesting but i was wearing it the
podcast everyone hears something different don't they no it's true people come up to me i like that
part of the podcast where you're talking about the rug and i go like that didn't happen i was talking about a shirt
but it's like you get to create your own experience i just tricked her i said please
pick up it's important so hopefully hopefully she thinks it's an emergency and she'll call right back
oh wow even though it was important wow okay i've tried that one with the guys
doesn't always work sarah sorry maybe she'll call me back i've been in an accident me back
immediately yeah i've been in an accident you know podcast girls do something girls do something
this all the time and maybe she won't be scared.
It's all mean girl stuff, isn't it?
You don't think so?
Not answering your phone call when she knows it's important?
I know.
It's Friday night.
Anything could be happening.
That's big mean girl vibes.
Yeah, that's not really nice.
It's the most dangerous night of the entire week.
It is.
That's why I'm home.
It's not because no one asked me to hang out.
Because no one thinks that.
Oh, she texted me back.
She said, I'll call back in one minute.
Okay.
Are you guys ready?
What do you guys want to do for the next minute?
I'm not going to be able to think about anything else.
Okay, wait.
I have to take my headphones out, though, so she can hear you guys.
Okay, make it seem like we're still having a big emergency.
Hey, what's up?
Hey, what's up?
Oh, nothing.
She's so fucking scared.
Oh, my God.
She has no idea.
We were just about to have dinner. fucking scared oh my god she she has no idea oh well i i'm calling you because it's important
yeah this idiot wait once wait actually wait one second dinner on the show one second oh now it's
it's working now
anything you want to say for yourself did you hear that no i haven't i didn't hear that wait what
are you ready to apologize are you ready to apologize hang on i know that voice
i'm waiting it's the dinner dumbass.
It's Devin there.
No, it's not Devin.
Oh.
It's the damn ding-dong dinner Devin guesser.
She doesn't even know who I am.
She's been on my podcast.
She's ruined my podcast all these times.
She doesn't even know who I am.
And now I'm Devin? Oh, my podcast. She's ruined my podcast all these times. She doesn't even know who I am.
And now I'm Devin.
Oh, my God.
Sawa?
Are you scared?
I'm a little scared.
We've done phone calls on the show before.
It's never gone this badly. It's absolutely never gone like this.
Nothing like this at all.
Tony Newsome's dad has done full episodes over the phone.
Where he couldn't even hear us.
And you have a podcast.
I'm not recording this.
Actually, I am.
I legally have to say that.
You know what I'm doing tonight?
Oh, God.
Is this?
Tawny is there.
Kind of.
Yes. Yeah, that's what's going on. Yeah, it's all he was saying. Stupid idiot. is this kind of yes
yeah that's what's going on
yeah it's Hollywood
damn
10 hours later
oh my god
2 minutes to figure out
the fucking dumb
dinner dumbass strikes again
I don't talk to one of them
on the phone because I'm mad at him and then I don't talk to the other one on the phone because I'm mad at him.
And then I don't talk to the other one on the phone because that's not how we communicate.
Oh, I think I know which one I am.
OK, well, we'll discuss that now.
OK, but you can have dinner.
What are you mad at Sean about?
This has gone so poorly.
But can I say that it's gone exactly as well as every time i've been on
hollywood handbook okay so we all agree on that so we all agree that's one thing that we can say
is true that this terrible phone call is as bad as every other time you've come on the show
yeah i mean i imagine for the listeners i've had a fantastic time
expressing my truth and doing my art oh what's for dinner i'm taking my friend katherine and
my husband greg to oh my coffee at night.
Weirdo.
Okay.
Well, thank you so much for calling back.
Nothing bad happened.
I'm sorry I scared you.
That wasn't nice.
Hey, that's okay.
We're done.
I love you.
Yo, should we all go to oh my coffee?
And bust her ass? Oh my God. i can't believe she's at oh my coffee
yeah i walk in she's about to take her first sip of coffee i go how about oh that's my coffee
i grab it i don't do a good job i spill it it spills on my hand my hand gets burnt
i go oh more like oh my hand. You can sue them?
No, I can't sue them.
I was being a bully. Sure, sure.
But it's America. I feel like you can
sue a lot of people there.
Yeah, well, ask Gwyneth Paltrow.
Mm-hmm.
That's the news.
That's the news.
That's the news.
You bring it out of me, Sarah. I said... You reported the news. I the news that's the news wow you are good you bring it out of me
sarah i said reported the news i said how do you do the news and do you remember what you said i
just wait as i said and you you're gonna come up with news at some point and now it's even more
topical because of the oh my coffee my own life was connected to the news so it makes me remember the news story go ahead
like has anyone made the pitch like can we just bring gawker back for one second like
gwyneth paltrow got run into by a guy on some skis like and then she sued him for a dollar
like it just seems like can we just bring it back for one second to
just for that yeah i know i've been thinking about that a lot i i actually do still have
access to the website somehow oh so you should just post it say like oh go with patrick she was
she did pizza was supposed to do french fries. Is that what it was?
That's what they say.
She was doing pizza, she's supposed to do french fries. She's supposed to do french fries, and she was doing pizza.
It slowed her down too much.
It slowed her down too much, and the guy was like,
Oh, damn.
Do french fries!
Not pizza!
French fries!
Oh, man, I should post that.
But it's over now.
The thing that you have to keep in mind,
it goes by so fast.
If you don't grab it as soon as it happens, it's gone.
And no one cares.
And you failed.
Ferris Bueller said that.
Damn it!
I knew I didn't make it up.
I'm so embarrassed.
Nice try, but you're not going to sneak a famous Harris Bueller quote by me.
My ultimate hero.
Sarah, can I play you my demo for first game fluencers next season?
What you could do?
Yeah, of course.
No problem using his finger for this
just saying seems to pick and choose when it works
new fear unlocked
choke on death by choking on a grape
my friend chef kevin has quite the deal at his prison.
He can leave during the day, do whatever he wants.
So you're her.
As long as he come back and make his famous pudding.
I'm sorry, is this about yourself?
Yeah, so I guess he's being you you sarah this is how you sound to him
wait do you unlock a new fear on every episode do you know every episode okay i don't i i was
almost gonna fuck around have you have you unlocked any fears any new fears i haven't i have it's only
made me braver really really, I think.
Okay.
Oh, yeah.
It's confronting evil, you know?
The fears are getting locked up.
They're getting locked up.
New fear locked up.
It's true.
Like Kevin every night.
Kevin, that was good,
but the problem was that it sounded too scary.
Okay. So this is sort of the note you had on hazes i thought it
was listening to death grips yeah it was i felt like something bad was happening to me to my heart
it wasn't it didn't make me feel good you know it wasn't it wasn't uplifting i would say and
that's what gets people listening the The idea that things will get better,
you know?
What kind of music do you like under,
under your stuff?
Like,
is it Scott influenced?
Uh,
I would say like new metal meets Scott.
Oh wow.
That's uplifting.
Yeah.
So,
I mean,
it's high energy for sure yeah that makes a way to start
your day yeah i guess so yeah i mean what music would you add i actually have the perfect track damn that's a vibe new fear unlocked can everyone else hear that oh damn
am i okay oh damn
damn
did you make that? Yeah.
Oh, wow.
Tell me the answer is no without telling me the answer is no.
How did you come up with that?
Imagine the producer said that to like Drake or something.
How did you think of that?
Yeah. thing let me play this how did you think of that yeah if someone said that to me i'd be
flattered because it it means they're surprised by me what's it say on your shirt kevin yeah kevin
you got writing on your shirt you're holding out on me well sarah funny story i tell a story on um
you just answer there's a lot of buildup joe Joe Mandy wore the same shirt last week
actually funny story
two weeks ago
my fiance yeah I got a fiance now
whoa
she work on Mel Brooks show
his mouth fills with phlegm
history of the world part 2
there's a famous
sketch about a statue removal removal oh my god i
text my best friend darius they stole it from us because we did a sketch about removing sand from
a sandbox called sandy pearson a lot of similarities suspicious now i remember this
and for the wrap gifts they had extra sweaters of the steven santa mello statue removal in supply
um sometimes i wear it to sleep i true this fucking swag i wear the wrap gifts to bed because
i think if i had kid lucid dream i'll be in the show have you ever done that i hope you only wear
it to sleep in because if you ever wear that out in public and Nick Kroll or Ike
Barinholtz sees you with the stolen valor of the Steve Santamelo
fucking sand sketch sweatshirt,
they'll knock your ass in the next week.
You'll be,
it'll be,
it'll be history of the world part forever for you.
History to the world. Your history, your history of the world part forever for you. History to the world.
Goodbye.
Your history of the world.
Yeah.
As far as the world's concerned, this kid's history.
I try to sneak in a premiere party because there's so many celebs there.
They have Hulu up there.
Oh, my.
No, we don't.
You don't have Hulu. We don't have Hulu up there. Oh my. No, we don't. We don't. You don't have Hulu.
We don't have Hulu.
You don't have FXX on Hulu?
That's all on Disney Plus for us.
Oh my gosh.
Isn't that crazy?
Move it around.
FXX on Hulu is on Disney Plus?
FXX on Disney Plus?
Yeah, it's on Disney Plus.
It's all connected here.
It really is the Wild West.
It is the Wild West.
And then we don't have a separate...
We have a streaming service that has everything else.
There's HBO on it.
There's Showtime on it.
There's whatever, whatever.
What's it called?
Frigging Maple Syrup Plus? It's called Crave. Crave? Sounds pretty good. there's showtime on it there's whatever whatever you know what's it called freaking maple syrup
plus it's it's called crave crave that sounds good it's a dumb name pretty good there's like
everything here's kind of off you know nothing here's like everything feels a little off brand
sometimes you know which is why i like going to america you watch global a lot no no i don't
unfortunately do you know mackenzie davis uh oh she's canadian yeah yeah i don't know her personally
but she was just we know her she was just but she lives in the uk now and she was talking about her
like prince or i guess like king charles like now that he's gonna become king it's just like kind of
over he says like over
with the bullshit basically he's just like done with all the fucking bullshit i know and he is
going to make with mackenzie's help he's going to make everything just england again yeah i miss the
queen so you want your that you're okay with it oh you missed the queen because she was letting
you be canada and she's actually barely holding prince charles at bay i miss her yeah that's why
i miss her you know basically killed her damn near killed her mad dog king charles straining
against the chain the queen's bony fingers.
I don't feel safe with him being my leader.
I don't.
I just don't feel safe.
It's making me uncomfortable, too.
I don't like that image.
Of Sean being uncomfortable?
No, of King Charles doing all that.
King Charles is doing too much.
Did you see his portrait?
I thought it was nice.
They released an official portrait.
Let me look at it.
And I think he looks pretty good.
Let me look at it.
Let me look at it first.
That was painted by AI.
What?
They're getting so close.
What?
Dude,
it freaks me out thinking about how ai did the king charles this was painted by
ai yes yes how do you know how do i know you can see the fingies oh damn it oh he has so many
fingers oh man does he really in that i thought it was a real one. But also, does it matter?
He's a real one.
Artificial imperialist.
Hey, guys, guess what?
Bye.
Hollywood Hamburg.
That was a Hate Gum podcast.