Hollywood Handbook - Shelby Fero, Our Close Friend

Episode Date: January 13, 2014

Sean and Hayes play a scary game of Gmail Roulette, and educate their listeners with a Guide to Hosting SNL. Then Twitter celebrity and TV writer SHELBY FERO pops by to debate whether she should give back Sean's Twitter followers and trade observations with Sean and Hayes on being extremely young in show business. Finally, everyone makes some prank phone calls to some of Hollywood's hottest young stars.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a HeadGum Podcast. and I'm like that's not really my fucking problem Steven and I threw a rock at it and the thing fucking sparked like crazy the design is just so like it's fucking it's old it's old bullshit yeah anyway hey hi what up what up what up what up welcome to Hollywood Handbook an insider's guide to kicking butt and dropping names in the red carpet lineback hallways of this industry we call showbiz. I'm Hayes Davenport. I'm here with Sean Clements. That's me. Let's do a little, what's one of the fun games we can play just getting into the show?

Do you, this is dangerous. Yeah. Do you want to do Gmail roulette again? I love Gmail roulette, I think, because it does. It's one of the things that makes me feel scared. Yeah. You know, it's one of the only things in my life where I do feel consequence because a lot of times the emails we land on are pretty loaded and we're airing some very dirty laundry. This is where we just shuffle. We put our gmails on shuffle. And whatever comes up, we have to read. Have to.

Okay. Should we turn it on? Mm-hmm. Okay. You want to go first? Okay. Okay. Here we go.

Ding! Oh, Hayes. Which email is it? You know what the rules are. Can I please go again, though? Oh, Hayes. Which email is it? You know what the rules are. Can I please go again, though? Well, then it wouldn't be your game, would it? I guess that's true.

I guess then I might as well just pick the email I want to read. Right. Which is from Salma Hayek. That's a different game. That's Gmail Pick. Yeah, that's Gmail Pick, which we haven't played in a while. You know I'd love to hear that Salma't played in a while. You know I'd love to hear that Tomahawk email, but these are the rules. Well, this one, I hate

to read this one. Okay. We're waiting. I'll read it. The subject line is forgiveness? forgiveness? Please forgive me, bro. Please? So that's the subject. there's some ellipses in there Sean dog it's KP so so so so so so so so effing sorry. So, so, so, so sorry. I'm so sorry. You know I didn't mean to do you dirty like that. Please forgive me. I've tried sending letters. I've tried having mutual friends ask you to

acknowledge me. Please stop treating me like I'm dead. Stop ignoring me at all the parties we run into each other at. Please, I know you can hear me when I call you. Stop pretending that there's no one on the other end of the line and keeping me on the line for long, long periods of time. It's me. It's Kevin Pollack. I know I canceled last minute on doing your podcast without much explanation and never tried to reschedule. But something came up and there was nothing else I could do.

Please, I got scared, okay? I admit it. I got effing scared. You dudes are so funny. The content you create is outrageous and the truths you tell on your show got me shaking in my little booties my itty bitty wittle booties i was shaking so bad my knees were knocking and brother it sounded like the percussion part from that song spood man by sound garden are you ever going to acknowledge me again this is the thousandth email i've sent you this week

in retrospect it was pretty likely i'd land on one of these when we played Gmail Roulette. Anyway, back to the email. I know you've said that you'll never do my chat show because it's not big time enough for you. But please reconsider. Maybe we can do an exchange thing. I think it would finally push me over the hump and get me into the tier one status, breathing that rarefied air that the Hollywood handbook guys get to breathe. I know you did me a big favor by agreeing to let me be on the show, and I just want one more chance.

Is that the end of the email? Pretty much. It goes on. There's some other pretty pathetic stuff in there. I think it's very cute that he thinks that we couldn't get Gabriel Byrne or like Steve Baldwin or any of the other suspects. Benicio. Yeah. It would be nice to have them all on one show. But if we can't get that suspect, I think his name was Roger.

So we get four suspects. Yeah. I mean, the concept for that podcast was we're going to get all of the usual suspects. The episode was called The Regular Suspects. And we were going to get all the cast members from Usual Suspects. And we were going to have Chaz Palmin from Mutual Suspect and do sort of a... And we were going to have Chaz, Paul, and Terry come in and, like, catch them as his character. Like, we'd get them all in one room,

and then Chaz would come in and say, Finally, I got you guys. Yeah, he busts in on Mike, and he goes like, I know you shitbirds who are up to no good. And so that was the concept for the show. We wound up doing a different show. It was also great. It was also funny. It was also funny.

It was also cool. But the fact that we didn't have Kevin, I don't think even weighed into my decision to pretend that he's dead. That was just something you would have done anyway. That's something I was toying with doing to someone, and he just drew the short straw, as it were. It has nothing to do with your feelings being hurt or anything like that sometimes people are just dead yeah as far as being scared duh of course you're scared to do the podcast because it's fucking good it's scary to do something this good it just makes you scared of how powerful you are. You don't think I'm terrified every week when I leave

this room? Holy shit, the influence that I wield over America right now. Sparks shooting out of my fingertips. What do I do with this? Seeing Engineer Cody's fucking head melt when I fucking drop this mind bending knowledge on everyone? You don't think that's scary to me?

It's like dude just opened the Ark from the movie with the ark. Yeah. Evan Almighty. Yes. So I get being scared. But at the same time, it's like, if you don't challenge yourself, you're going to wind up getting me pretending you're dead. And that's been true of a lot of people.

And listen, people come back to life. Oh, yeah. all the time. It's not like a death sentence. It is, but not the kind that you just can't not be dead anymore. You can. Yeah, you can appeal your case like you do with a death sentence, you know, but you've got to spend a little time in there sort of looking at yourself. And I have to have made a mistake when I originally sentenced you and I don't think

I did. I guess it's my turn now. Yeah, you gotta do it. Ooh, I hope it's a juicy one. What if I just went through it and I just picked one because I like that one? Oh no. That's what I wanted to do. No way.

That's Gmail pick and you know it come on it wouldn't be a game if you did that would it? I really wish that would work okay here we go shuffle on ding oh this is actually

a good one. I'm very happy I landed on this one because it's been something that I've been wanting to speak on for a long time. So sometimes you just get lucky. Oh, rotten luck for me. This one's from Macklemore. And the headline is, Ugh. Dear Juicebox.

That's just, don't worry about that i am so friggin steamed about what i just heard on my serious xm radio in the car i turned it on and there's this there's this singer named lord and she's singing a song called royals and let me tell you what burns my butt about that not like you don't already know And there's this singer named Lorde, and she's singing a song called Royals. And let me tell you what burns my butt about that, not like you don't already know. It's supposed to be my job to do a song about not wanting to buy expensive things because black people do it too much. much. I sang the song called Thrift Shop, where I said, you guys, you other guys buy all your fancy clothes and you like riding cool cars and you think that spending money is cool, but it's actually not cool because now white people aren't doing it anymore and we don't like it. So too bad for you black guys. You tried to be like us, but now we don't think that expensive things and jewelry are fun.

So you're going to have to try again. But now Lorde is coming along and she's singing the exact same song and it's being just as number one as mine was. She sings a song where she says, where she says every song is like crystal maybacks diamonds on your timepiece gray goose stuff like that and it's true every song is like that because that's what black people are singing about and but my message was no more singing about that because it's not cool anymore and now she has the exact same message and white people like it just as much as they like my song because it's satisfying to them to tell black people that the stuff that they're interested in is not good i don't even know why i'm telling you this i just figured that you would understand because

we came up with the idea together to write songs about black consumerism being wrong and it's not cool anymore. Write me back. I'm just going to sit in the car for a while and think about this stuff. Signed, Squeezeits. Ooh, that's quite an angry email. My position on that is which i told him there can be just as long as the message gets out you can do as many songs about it as you want right well i remember you came to me and you said i met this guy mackie moore and uh he says he wants to do some rapping. And I, you at the time were like really wanting to stick it to like Kanye.

Sure. Who was rapping about and. Cars and clothes and stuff. And it was just seeming to me. And things that had been your. Yes. When white people were rich, we bought all these champagne things and Maybachs and fancy cars. And then some black people got rich and they said we can all these champagne things and maybox and fancy cars and then some

black people got rich and they said we can have these things too so i thought it would be effective to say no these things aren't cool anymore yeah and we no longer even want it so go ahead and buy it if you want it's not good now it's cool having money but not spending it on expensive things buying things that poor people would buy. Which is funny because I know Mackie Moore does have money now. So what does he actually spend it on? Well, it's some new thing that black people don't know about yet. And I can't say it on the podcast because the sooner they find out,

the sooner we'll have to say that something else is good to buy. That's a good point. But it's okay with me that Lorde is hopping onto this. I think the message is just as true when she says it. As long as it's someone, now a black person will come along and say, oh, I reject

consumerism too. Like, I think it's wasteful to spend money on all these expensive things. Now I go to the thrift shop. Exactly. Now I don't want to hear a song about diamonds. And you better believe we're going to really want to sing about diamonds again at that point. Because we'll have them all now.

Always one step ahead. Always switching back to whatever they just said they like. You can't catch us. I mean, it's a cliche at this point, but fast as fast can, you can't catch me. I'm the white gingerbread man. You know, that's Mackie Moore's position, and that's Lord's position, and that's Hayes' position,

and I support them. I'm sort of outside the whole thing because I am one-eighth Native American, which is why I am so spiritual and why I am so in touch with nature. I'm not really about money at all. I sort of just want to be ready to walk into the wilderness at any time. That's where you feel most at home. Yeah, very connected to the earth.

So I am outside of it. Hey, is this chosen to accept me as I am? It's so funny to me when I'm riding in your car and people point at the dreamcatcher, hey, get rid of your rearview mirror, and they're like, what is that? Oh, yeah. Some kind of freaky net?

Oh, yeah, and I say, in a sense, yes. And I explain it to them for a good too long to do on the podcast, but I sit them down and I really let them know how they're being insensitive, why they're being insensitive. You don't tell them what it is because that's for you guys. No, that's, yes. That's right. That is for us.

We wanted to speak on something that we think is really important. As you know, what we like to do on this podcast is educate people about when they do make the leap to Hollywood success. Certain rules you have to follow and certain situations you will encounter that you need to be prepared for. that you need to be prepared for. And the situation we want to talk about today is once you have a hit song or you be on a good TV show or you become a movie star, at some point you're going to host SML. Yeah, I mean, Hayes and I have each had to do it a few times and we've hung up the spurs uh but you it's a rite of passage you can't avoid it if you're going to be a movie star like us or

just a hit famous person like us or like some of the other people that we hang out with, Danny Aiello and Buster Poindexter, then you're going to be looking down the barrel of hosting an SNL show. And you see all these guys who are hosting the show now. They walk through the door and they go down the stairs, but they don't do it in like a jaunty way. They just kind of go down those stairs on the monologue stage they don't do like a fake saxophone play with lenny pickett they don't do any of that they just go straight to the front they don't rock back and forth on the balls of their feet for a while and like do like wide hand claps and they don't do

like a fist pump on the last like saxophone blow. You know? They just kind of stand there like they're hosting some fucking nothing show. Yeah, like they're hosting the Oscars or some other fucking fake bullshit. And this is Saturday Night Live. And for better or worse, it's an actual show.

It's just like if you get to this point, this is what you have to know, this is what you have to know. This is what you have to do. Let's start on Monday. So Monday, you want to show up about 10 p.m. They've been working. You've had your manager or whoever call a few times and say that you're about to show up and that you'd really like to meet the writers on this first day that it's important when you walk in at 10 they will be tired make a lot of noise okay because they need to hear what you're gonna say next and say hey

wake up because that's what you want them to do yeah say hey wake up fucktards and then you say come on nip guys and you bring in all the writers that you brought who know your voice better than these guys you haven't even met before do no yes snl is about funniness yes and funniness is going to be a huge theme for your week. So you want to bring in people where the funniness is a known quantity. Your funny teacher from eighth grade who did the cool geography jokes, okay? Your funny teacher from ninth grade who had all the great math, you know, puns

where he was like, you want to remember how to say geometry? Gee, I'm a tree. And then he'd act like a tree for the next ten minutes. Your funny barber from your childhood who had a fake plastic ear and would say, oops, did you lose this? Like, he just cut off your ear. Yeah, or even your funny teacher from tenth grade.

The one who had all the funny jokes that he used to make about spelling. The one who had all the funny jokes that he used to make about spelling. He would spell spelling wrong on the board. He had a shirt that said, bad spellers of the world untie. And that was funny. And so I think that these kind of funny people are going to know your voice. They're going to know you. And SNL writers may very well be funny and have funniness that's totally possible i'm never gonna find out

because i haven't heard their name never will hear their name and they don't know my shit so you tell all of the writers to just go to sleep uh and then you and your guys start working on a couple of couple good sketches now what a lot of people don't realize when they're hosting the show is that people are tuning in to watch you be the star that's why it's your picture they show and kind of a cool pastel filter right at the end of the commercial break. That's to say, I'm coming back on the show, and it's my turn to be the star. So when you are starring in a sketch, make sure it's you that's doing the funny voice, and make sure that you're the one that's getting the laughs,

and everyone else is what's called the normal guy something i had to learn the hard way is some of these uh regular cast members on the show have like characters they want to do yeah which in their free time god bless i hope knock yourself out yes But when I'm doing my hosting and being in my funniest self, keep the character shit out of there. Your job is to be a bad doctor who accidentally sawed my leg off. Your job is to be a bad cop who accidentally shot my leg too much. leg too much if i'm being the pizza man there's no room for anyone else to to also be doing like a big italian accent that just wouldn't make sense to have the two of them in one place i need that person to say what are you doing with my pizza and that's all yes that's a great point. And that Pizza Man sketch was a revelation. Yes, it did great. It's on Hulu.

So this is where the benefits of doing a live show are really going to work to your advantage. If someone else gets a laugh, even if it's in response to something that you did that they sort of just piggybacked on, you can turn to the audience, scold the audience, look at Lorne, say, Lorne, are you seeing this shit? This is exactly what I talked to you about. And they have to deal with it. They'll go to a commercial break when that happens. You can basically force that whenever you want by looking right in the camera and saying,

stop the show. Then they'll cut you a commercial, and then during the break, you could reset how you want it to be done. And when they come back, they'll do the show that you want to do. Yeah. And you might find, Fred Army Man,

that you're not in the sketch anymore. And that we're using somebody who knows their place. Let's talk about a little bit. It's an important part of the show that not a lot of hosting guys appreciate, which is introducing the musical act. If it's not you, which it very well may be, but sometimes even if it is you. Should we just play sort of the best example of this that we've ever seen of how to introduce an act? Yeah. I mean, it's actually not us.

No, it's not us. But it's sort of, it would be weird to play the way we do it. That seems like that would be a little self-indulgent. So let's play a good example of somebody trying to do it like us and doing a pretty good job. And can I say quickly, I hate self-indulgence. Yes, I do too. So much self-promotion and crap. I'm so friggin' mad, and it just seems like everybody's doing it these days.

It's like if you were really that good, you wouldn't have to tell me. Anyway, let's play Adrian Brody. He did it almost as good as us. What I don't like is people driving around in cars with their name on the license plate instead of, like, a nickname of theirs. Like, I don't, my license plate doesn't say, like, H-A-Y-Z-D-V-N. It says Mr. Movie. That's right. And then my license plate doesn't say S-H-N-C-L-M-T.

You know? It says Doctor Number One Movie. So let's play. This is Adrian Brody, although it's easy to forget that it's him because he's- He's disappeared. It's easy to forget that it's him because he's disappeared. He disappeared into this character that's based on the musical act that he's introducing. It's not randomly chosen.

It's a clever tie-in. Yes. Let's play the clip. Bring up a king song, man. See if you know what? Come on, come on, come on. You got the whole family here, man. You know, big respect to me, man. Champagne, dancehall, cheer, man. Bring up a king song, man. That's a host.

That is a musical guest introduction. And you're ready to hear music after and music in the genre that's going to be played yes which is bad reggae this is what you do this is what you do and this is what adrian brogie did he was backstage at the show and he said hey that guy sean paul he's from africa or something right and they said yeah he's from jamaica he's from Jamaica. He's like, oh, great, that's even better. Do you have like a wig that a guy like that would wear? And they said, well, we have these dreadlocks, I guess. And he just yanked it out of their hands and he put it on his head. So he goes out there in a dreadlock wig because you should try to look as much like the musical artist that you're introducing as possible. And you should try to talk like them in a funny way.

Yes, that's right. And I think from hearing it that Adrian Brody either seen or has known a Jamaica guy before because he really is doing what their voices like and how they sometimes talk. And even beyond that, jokes on it. My niece speck, my uncle speck I don't know what he means I know it's funny and so again

funniness saves the day now there's one thing that I would could have been longer could have been a little longer now it's about 45 seconds long and at some point they are going to try to stop you Could have been a little longer. Yes. Now. It's about 45 seconds long.

And at some point, they are going to try to stop you from talking by playing Airhorn. They're going to hope that you end this because they're going to just start playing their song because they won't know what else to do. They'll be like, should we just play? Don't stop like Adrian Brody did. Don't bend over and let them... Sing the song! And let them stop you. If they try to do that to you, sing their song that they're about to start playing. Yes, start

singing the song. The ideal music intro contains at least the first verse of the song you're about to hear and is about three and a half minutes long. That's what they get. They tried to get rid of you by playing the music, but you use that as an opportunity to be on the stage for longer.

And a lot of times, if you're like me or Hayes, you're a very good singer, and people really do want to hear you do that anyway. Now, SNL has come under fire a bit recently about some of their lack of diversity. Yes. We're talking a lot about race today on the show, and that's because we do know so much about it, and we have such a broad perspective. I am one-eighth Native American.

I am one-eighth Native American, so I know a little something about diversity and the struggles that you can have growing up as someone who's in the minority. have growing up as someone who's in the minority. The reason they're having those problems is not that they haven't hired a new African-American cast member or a cast member of color period in eight years or so. The reason is there's not enough

Adrian Brogues out there who have the courage to play multiple races within a given show. These guys, these hosts you see, they're like introducing the musical actor or something

and they'll just come out there and do white. Like, oh, like Imagine Dragons are here. Like, which is funny, but not if you're doing it all the time.

You know? It's important for a show like that to represent all kinds of cultures by wearing their funny hair. And if I hear there is a way to do this to kind of take your skin and make it look different, to make it look more like their skin. I haven't seen this, but that, again, was the other note I had on Adrian Brody's performance, which is if he had somehow darkened his skin to go with the dreadlocks, I think that would have shown a little more respect to the culture that he's talking about because they don't look like him. That's right. It's appropriating in a way that's kind of offensive to say like,

oh, well, it's okay if I play this Jamaican guy with my white skin. Like with my white privilege, I should be allowed to do this. Like white skin works everywhere. It's just not the case. If you're playing a black person, you should pay respect to them by sort of donning the skin that they wear and sort of seeing what it feels like for a little while. Can be very eye opening. Walk a mile in their skin makeup and

see if you don't, see if that doesn't help you disappear into the character for real. And you might find that like Hayes and I then you're able to very eloquently speak on their experience the way we've done throughout this show. So I wish that I'd like to see more of that on the show. I think they're trying to solve it in different ways and maybe that'll stick as well.

But I know when Hayes and I are on there, we do Chinese, we do Pakistani dudes, and we do a bunch of like funny, like different European, like Spanish guys and shit like that. It fucking cracks everybody's shit up. We have a great show today. You know that. Shelby Farrow is here. She is a

young, up-and-coming Twitter celebrity and next-generation Hollywood girl and we want to have a discussion about what that's like for all of us. Coming up very soon on Hollywood Handbook. Hollywood Handbook.

So, I go to Chris Berman and I say I'm flattered. I really appreciate it. I think h-a-y-e-s-p-n is too long just chop it in half and go with that and they still paid you yeah of course Hollywood Handbook and Insider's Guide to Kicking Butt and Dropping Names in the Red Carpet Lineback Hallways of this industry we call showbiz. We have a very close friend joining us on the show today, Shelby Farrow. Hey, guys.

Jay Farrow's sister is on the show. She's a Twitter star. Let's introduce who Shelby is, and then we'll get to the thing that we wanted to talk to her about. Shelby's having a successful Hollywood career, largely as a result of Twitter stardom. When you say, would you agree with that? It's like you got a bunch of Twitter followers and then from there sort of everything fell into place. At a very young age, you're having a pretty lucrative, successful showbiz career. Would you agree with that?

I would only disagree with what you said because I would say it's very successful. It's not just successful. Okay. I think that's the only thing. Okay, even better. Yeah. That brings us to our next point pretty nicely. I'd say that qualifies as a good segue.

Yes. We don't typically participate in what I would deem gotcha journalism. However, when we first met Shelby Farrow— We put that chair under the door, just kind of under the doorknob. Yes, it's wedged in there good good and no one can leave or get in. My publicist might have to get in at some point. Well, they won't be able to. Now, when we first met Shelby Farrow, she was 16, but she was also a sick teen.

Yes, let's clarify what Sean means by that. yes let's clarify what sean means by that we sat down with you as part of a venture for make a wish the make a wish foundation had had a girl who was sick whose dream was to be a twitter celeb yes so they called someone who knows a little something about youth and celebrity. And we sat down with you. And at the time, your wish was for 100,000 Twitter followers. Yeah. I'm sure you remember that. And at the time, you didn't say it outright, but it was sort of heavily implied that once you got those 100,000 Twitter followers, you could peacefully

move on to your great reward. And you coughed through that meeting. I think there may have been a little miscommunication when I meant I was going to die. It was sort of like, you know, someday. Right. Okay, that's not who the Make-A-Wish Foundation is for. Because I, at that time, I had built up, I only was letting close friends and family follow me on Twitter. So I had about 100,000.

And I transferred that account to your name thinking that pretty soon you'd kick da bucket and I could could have my stuff back. He would get all those followers back. And now, where are we, where you still have all the followers? I mean, I'm only gonna live till like 80, 90, and then you guys can... You tricked us pretty good. Well, the thing that they don't tell you is you don't have to put everything

on the forms. You can just drop off in the middle of a sentence. They can't do anything about it. The one thing I'll say is that Bat Kid has looked pretty healthy lately, too. Yeah, he is a healthy glow. I called him the other day. We laughed about it, the whole thing.

Yeah, he's definitely still around, and he got to save a whole city, and he did not die. And there is no taking that back at this point. I told him that he should sue for making him bust bargain brand villains. They didn't even call him the Joker and stuff. I'm not. It's pretty hard to ask for all your Twitter followers back.

I'd like to do it now. Sean, I think I've just built such a specific brand around my pretty obvious up-and-coming stardom that if they were to try to follow you, it would just be jarring to see. You don't want to follow a... You don't want to follow

what? Well, I was saying failure, but I cut myself off as to not be rude. I don't even know what that would mean. Yeah, Sean doesn't know what that word means. Oh, it's usually a fair up. It's not in my vocab. You should learn more words.

I learn the words I need. Give. Give. Me. Me. Back. Back. My. Give me back my tweeter flowers. Give me back my tweeter flowers. And that's all I need to know. So, if you're not going to give me back my tweeter flowers, the good news is it's very easy for me to build that brand again. And you got to have a short memory in this town.

But you have the transfer all set up and ready to go. Yes, if at any time you do decide that what you did was wrong and that maybe your whole career is a fucking joke because I basically built you, and now you're collecting paychecks for something you didn't even really do. I'm hearing what you're saying, but it's kind of like how Frankenstein built the monster, and then the monster was so cool and strong and awesome everyone hung out with the monster you're not gonna scare me out of the room to win this argument

I'm sorry I forgot that you're terribly afraid of Frankenstein's monster everyone is and the guy is named Frankenstein

but Frankenstein's monster no the monster is Frankenstein yeah he's Frankenstein the monster no the monster is Frankenstein Frankenstein Jr. no the doctor

is named Igor yeah he's Dr. Igor have you read a lot of books I've read a lot of scripts it's I Frankenstein not I the doctor who named the fucking thing it's like something else it's just i frankenstein what do we do how do we how do we work this out well if i

if i held a grudge against every person in this town who basically got their start launched off of me. You wouldn't have any room left in your hands for awards. That's right. I wouldn't have any room for awards. I'd be holding too much grudges. Oh, are you? I have to get a new awards cabinet to hold all mine. Do you have a suggestion?

Do you know a good cabinet maker? I would say get a small one for now just get one for what you have right now and don't count on too much more coming in okay that that may be good advice speaking of cabinet makers you're all young. We wanted to sort of have a roundtable discussion as the three of us being young and successful in Hollywood and sort of like the next generation. Sure. like to for people to be jealous of you uh to sort of understand what's going on with youth culture in a way that maybe the people who are older than us don't sure you i think you guys you guys try to stay pretty current absolutely yeah it's just a natural byproduct of being so plugged into all our young friends. And just when you're in the entertainment industry, you're actually friends with.

Master P. With Master P, the K-Feds, the. Steven from Third Eye. Yeah. People who are right at the edge of youth media. Sort of just fringe alt, sort of alternative people? Fringy alt, yeah. Bounced up to below.

Your dad doesn't know about them, but we not only know about them, we know them, and we have maybe even shared a cocktail or two with them. Okay. What kinds of music, Shelby, do you think is cool today? Well, I mean, you know, electronic dance music is big. Yes. Raves are big right now.

I love it. God. So fun to dance to. All the spark noises, the beeps and pops. Oh, gosh. We listen to this in the car, Hayes and I.

No, that's cool. Who's your favorite DJ? Oh, gosh. We listen to this in the car, Hayes and I. No, that's cool. Who's your favorite DJ? Oh, gotta be the Cyborg Twins. Yes. Oh, I mean, they're great. Also, that Let Me Clear My Throat guy. What a DJ and what amazing sounds. I haven't heard him. Does he play at Echoplex

or the Bowery? Oh gosh, Echoplex. For people at home who don't know, Echoplex is a big place to play and it's in the cloud, but that's not all. It's also

new. Right, Shelby? I think it's been around for it's also new. Right, Shelby? I think it's been around for... It's pretty established. Yeah, to us it is. To us it is. It feels that way now. What else... What are you watching now that the young people watch?

Tell them what we all watch. I know. There's great cartoons out. Adventure Time's really good. Oh, gotta be. Gotta be one of the best. And one of my top favorites of all of them. Oh, really?

Who's your favorite? I mean, I love Fiona. Yeah, with the sword? Sometimes. Gotta be the coolest. Sword and the clothes they wear I'm like this is almost the kind of stuff We wear

The candy people? Yeah it's the stuff everyone's gonna be wearing In Beverly Hills Yeah next year We're wearing it now In Hancock Park I don't spend too much time on the west side It's kind of gauche now you know it now in Hancock Park.

I don't spend too much time on the west side. It's kind of gauche now, you know. Yeah, there are ghosts there. Absolutely. I like the... What I think is cool is the middle part. Oh, like Midtown, Koreatown. That's up and coming.

That's kind of cool now. Right. I love the song... Koreatown. That's up and coming. That's kind of cool now. Right. I love the barbecue. Sure. I was actually at a Korean barbecue place. Saw Justin Bieber right by on a Segway. Flagged him down. We hung out for the afternoon.

Have you guys ever seen him? He hangs out there like all the time. Justin Bieber. He is one of the afternoon. Have you guys ever seen him? He hangs out there all the time. Justin Bieber. He is one of the best. Well, because of how good he is, that's why I think he's great. His fashion. And not even that alone,

but the whole thing he does with the way he dresses. Yeah, the jackets. It's nice. It kind of like harkens back to old music like Motown and, you know, some sort of the classics. Do you guys like classics? Love classics. Love them.

It's cool to love them, but don't know them as well as the new stuff. Okay, that's fair, I guess, if you're young and didn't grow up with it. But I feel like you guys are, what, 48, 52, respectively? Gotta be one of those. So into 48, like, lately, just because it's popping off. What do you think of, like, when you're talking you're talking to a 75-year-old and he's all trying to pretend like he's into cool music? Like disco and that stuff.

I think disco is so lame now. Oh, I'm over it. And I don't even think it's coming back, at least not for a while. I don't think anyone's trying to bring it back. They better not. These guys in their 70s and 80s right now are kind of – like they think they know what's good. But it's really us. It's really us 48- and 50-year-olds who – and it's always been this way, who are defining the culture.

And it's just moving too fast for them to keep up with because they can't have, a lot of times, the cloud or even a Samsung phone. I'm impressed you guys know so much. I wouldn't have considered us in the same demographic. Some of those guys don't even know about computers and the different kinds. Really? Mm-hmm. Huh. You say, like, Dell to those guys, and they're like, oh, what?

Yeah, they think you're talking about a friend of theirs. Well, yeah, I was going to ask you, Hayes, why is your computer upside down? I don't totally understand. I was just wondering if it's, like, a more functional way, like a carpal tunnel thing, or... Oh, well, that's, um... When you skateboard as much as I do, that becomes the way you have to use your computer. Yeah. Like inverted?

Yeah. Well, if you do a wicked ollie, then of course you're going to have to sort of shift around some of your household items to complement how that changes your changes like your perception yeah i never got into skateboarding i think by the time sort sort of my age group came up it had moved on to you know like razor scooters doing fun tricks on those yeah that's skateboardings okay well i wouldn't go that far i hate it oh yeah 2014 you didn't believe us about skateboarding, did you? Whoa. I was fucking fail. Kapranked.

Man, nailed you. Yeah, I threw my skateboard in the garbage can a long time ago. There was no room for it in the house because there's so much Razor scooters. Oh, that's fucking sick, man. Yeah. God, I'll do a jump on those. Yeah, when I do that big of a jump, a lot of times I even will give the finger to my mom or dad.

In the air, you know? You might as well respect them. They probably gave you a lot. They're probably getting on in years now. Don't have a lot of time left. Well, they're no longer alive which i think is like isn't it cool to have moms and dads who only died recently instead of like 20 30 years ago yeah some of these 75 year olds when they bring up like their parents it's like uh are you even sure man

i don't know i think i'm gonna be really sad when my great grandma passes oh yeah take a lot out of me yeah it's cool having a great grandma mine is very nice oh yeah mine always like wants me to eat candies you know because she's around hey you know let's talk about what's next. We all know. Okay. You go first, Shelby. Just the kind of stuff that we like to wear now that looks cool for us. With our age. You know, spring's coming up.

I think crop tops were a big thing last year. We'll see if that trend continues. I mean, I'll wear one occasionally or like a. Yeah. When it's springtime, I take all my tops and I crop them out. Yeah. I get a bunch of, I just get a bunch of corn stalks and I weave them together into a nice top. It's harvest time, baby.

It's spring. let's do it. Is that why part of your shirt seems sewn back on to the rest of it? And, Sean, is that why there's so many crows in here? I don't know, old man. Like, quit harshing our butts. It's like you don't even know What the cool stuff is to do Maybe I don't I'm feeling pretty out of

Maybe I'm out of touch I don't know I assume that as you know A young I guess I don't know technically Starlet I was pretty on the nose But I'm rethinking a lot Crop season baby Crop season Get cool about it

Please get cool about it. Please get cool about it, and please do it quickly. Hey, let's make some prank calls to celebrities. Oh, yeah, that'll be a good way for us to all become good friends again. Okay, who do you guys have on your phone? Let's look through the phone. Sean, which celebrity would you like to call? Who do I want to call first? Well, definitely one of our young celeb friends.

I'll just start. Maybe John Stewart, Miranda Richardson, Patricia Heaton. Let's call Patricia Heaton. Let's call Patricia Heaton. All right, let's give Patty a ring and really wind her up. I'm sorry. I'm going to be – guys, I'm going to be honest. I don't actually totally know who that is. Too new probably.

Not 100%. Really? Too new. Next year you'll know who she is. Her name is going to be all over the map of California. Is she going to be in a Michael Bay or a rom-com or maybe one of those fantasy horror movies? She was on this network, CBS. You probably haven't even heard of it.

Yeah. You're probably still watching PBS with the other 80-year-olds. Yeah, man. We moved on from PBS to CBS CBS and we're never going back. I only ever watched Sesame Street on PBS. Pretty... It's more for children, I would say. Okay, shut up. Shut up. Shut up.

Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. I don't know if this is a good idea. Professor, Union Station, may I help you? Uh, hi, Patricia? It's Raymond. Who do you want to speak to? Patricia Heaton, it's Raymond calling.

Hold on one second. I'm with Brad. I'm sorry? I'm with Brad. Hold on. I'm with Raymond. Raymond? Uh, hold on Are you trying to call Wetzel's Pretzels? Wetzel's Pretzels? No

Yes I don't eat gluten I was calling Patricia No, no, no, you guys got the wrong number You're calling a business Oh, okay She is kind of a business, but thank you. That didn't sound...

Patricia! Dude. Smoked her. We got her good. Guys, I just, like, real quick, just Googled Patricia Heaton on my Google Glass, and I don't think... are you sure that was her? It sounded just like a confused woman. Oh, fake out.

Mega fake out. Okay, Glass, thanks for clearing that up. Can I have my phone back, please? Yeah, here you go. It's time to make another prank phone call. Why do you still use a Nokia? Can you not upgrade on your plan? I call it a Yes Kia, because yes, it's Prank phone call. Why do you still use a Nokia? Can you not upgrade on your plan? I call it a yes, Kia, because yes, it's my favorite phone.

Oh, God. And also Kia. Who do I want to call that is famous? I mean, I'm just trying to spitball off of sort of the info I've gathered from you guys. I don't know. Do you know, like, maybe like an Angelica Houston or a Judy Dench? I feel like those are your sort of age brackets. What do you think?

Maybe like a Clint Eastwood. Because that's good? Yeah, that's who you think is cool right now? Because you like that? I think he's sort of more cool for you guys, for when you came up. We're all the same, so who's cool to you? I don't know. So if you think it's good for us guys, then it must be fun for you too.

So tell us what's fun for you, and that's what's fun for us. Okay, fair enough. Maybe like a middle ground is like a Matt Damon. Hey, shut up, shut up, shut up. Show me, shut up for a second. Shut up. Thank you for calling Staples. Hello, Rashida Jones?

It's your boyfriend, Muldrew. Our associates are currently assisting other customers. You heard me. It's Muldrew. Don't play songs at me. Playing the piano won't get you out of this. Sorry. It's me, Muldrew's other new friend.

I thought Celeste and Jesse Forever was pretty good. Was this one of the hits when you guys were coming up, the song? That music is a little too fast for me. I like something you can dance to. And Rashida knows that, and that's why she tried to play us out of her life. Anyway, we pranked her. But she doesn't know it was a prank, and we got her good. Shelby, what famous person would you like to call? Guys, I don't know.

I feel kind of uncomfortable about this. It's okay. Do I have to pick one? Look, as young people, we all do big pranks. That's something that we all do for fun and to bond. And we don't care. It's not going to come back to bite us because we're young and we're invincible. I guess that's, I can't argue with that.

I have my whole life ahead of me. Do you guys ever drive your car so frigging fast? Oh, gosh. And the car that's cool is Taurus. Well, electric hybrids are sort of cool right now. Oh, yeah. Oh, God, I love how fast they go and the engine sound. Yeah.

Well, their engines are actually very silent because they're running on a battery. Right, yeah. No pistons. Yes. No, we love remote control cars, but the ones we drive are like so, also so good and bigger, which is better. I think Teslas have pedals and stuff. I don't think you have to remote. Shelby, shut up.

Shh, shh, shh. Shut up. I do have Drake's number if you guys want to use that. Shut the fuck up. Do you want to call Drake? I don't know. Do you need it from my phone or do you have it also? Yeah, I got it.

He's one of my favorite painters. I didn't know that was his hobby. I guess you know him better than I do. Oh, yeah, because the main thing he does is something else. Well, I've only ever seen his cross-stitchings. Yeah, and I know that that's his real thing. Yeah, it's his main hobby. Okay, this is him. Here, you go. Shelby, it's his main hobby. Okay, this is him.

Here, you go. Shelby, you go. You go. Okay. Shelby, you go. Shh, shut up. It's ringing. This is Guitar Center Hollywood.

Hey, is Drake there? Who, I'm sorry? Oh, is D Drizzy? In what department? Well, I get, uh, R&B? This is Guitar Center Hollywood. Oh, well, guys, I don't think he works there anymore. Do you know what department he's in?

I think, do you guys have like a hip-hop or? No, we only go like through pro audio, acoustic guitars, electric guitars, drums. Oh, he doesn't play on instruments, you guys. Well, okay, I guess I'll try it back. Wow, Drake is going to be mad, but also will respect how good we got him. So he's going to have to give it up to us the next time we see him at the museum. I don't think he spends a ton of time at Guitar Center anymore.

He definitely used to. Well, that's his home number, so it might have been just somebody from Guitar Center was at his house, and maybe they pranked you back. That is true. When I made my first million, the first thing I did was made people from shops

just come over. Yeah, and Hayes and I are good at sort of jujitsu-ing the pranks back at people when people try to prank us, and I think that's what Drake did to you. And you can't get us that way, but you can get you. So that's what happened.

Well, how's everything else going how are you guys knees i heard haze your knee was blown out sean you had some sort of hand arthritis thing last time we yeah it's good to i just decided that the best thing for me was just to have my bones be be hurting yeah like just sort of aching yeah just like all us guys right now. Like, our bones are chipping out in our bodies. Mm-hmm. Yeah, they're not holding up so good. And that is kind of a cool, like, young, like, punk thing.

Yeah. To just rebel against your bones that way. I get that. It's kind of like how when it rains, like, I don't feel anything. Yeah, me neither. I don that. It's kind of like how when it rains, I don't feel anything. Yeah, me neither. I don't swell up at all. I just stay the same size that's normally

my size. It's pretty tight. Easy getting out of bed. Yeah, and I'm still growing. I deal with that. I have growing pain still in my legs. Yes, that's the good kind of pain to have in your legs, and that's the kind that we have. Yeah, it's crazy.

I don't even know when that stops. Maybe like 25? I have to wait five more years? That's like half a decade. And I'll tell you something else about growing pains. I don't associate that term with a TV show because I'm too young to have known that show. Yep, you say that phrase to me, and I don't think of anything about what that is in terms of being a show.

I feel like it may be a show by the context clues, but I really don't know. None of us know. That's what we just said. Is there an echo in here? Or is, you know, Shelby like- Or like that Echoplex, that other thing. Oh, gosh. That is so good.

One of our faves. And big and thing. Oh, gosh. That is so good. And big and good. Oh, the beat? The beat. Ka-boom, ka-boom, ka-boom. Actually, I just went to a concert at the Echoplex, and it sucked. I didn't have my license. I didn't believe I was over 18, so I had to go home and find my passport.

It was like a whole big thing. God, I hate that stuff. Ugh. And then don't even really have a license because i'm i'm i'm a little kid yeah being a baby is like it's okay sometimes yeah good parts and bad parts but you know it's like i guess in hollywood what you want to be is like an infant and i guess that's kind of what i am i guess like i'm like in a metaphor way i get that sort of just like fresh and young and ready to absorb new ideas and so ready to give back i think i think that's sort of what people see in me a little bit which is very nice. It's nice of them. Yep. You and us, and it's all the same,

and we like being the same age. Yeah. Sure. And I was going to ask you guys, as older people who have had maybe more life experience, how did you do the transition from very, very young teen to sort of trying to be older, more mature? I think I'm right on that cusp where I'm still very, very young and hip,

but slowly becoming more of a still young and hip but more mature. I don't know how to make that transition gracefully. Well, we're out of time. It's so great to have you, but it's past actually my bedtime. My mommy's going to be mad. But so cool to have you. Please follow us on Tumblr. On the computer.

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Yeah, that's probably why. Sure. Yeah, well, you brought it up. Just fucking say it now. It's sort of like a young thing. Well, why don't we all say it at the same time? Yes, let's. Guys, I really don't want to...

Well, if you just start saying it and then we'll say it. Yeah. Okay. Are we on a count? You decide. Yeah. Okay. One.

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