Hollywood Handbook - Tony Hawk, Our Skateboarder Friend

Episode Date: March 31, 2020

The Boys help TONY HAWK make the next Tony Hawk's Pro Skater video game.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-...my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a HeadGum Podcast. How do we... The new normal is all this new stuff. Sorry, no, just could you clarify what new territory? Are you talking about the floor of the ocean? I'm talking about the internet. Ah, yes. Well, because the large majority of the ocean is unexplored. Sure. More than of space, in fact.
Starting point is 00:00:41 Did you know that? Way more. Way more. We know way less about what is in our water but you were talking about the internet a very short question do you know how to order a egg online okay yeah i've been coming up against this too um i can i can get one it is um a tamagotchi egg so that is the thing i ran into as well but yeah i can get dozens of those what i'm looking for is regular egg one egg trying to make a cookie uh well you and i can go on this journey together i mean obviously we have a guest i don't know if we want to dig in so hard on the egg delivery system now.
Starting point is 00:01:27 Yeah, we can come back to it. Let's come back to it. And he might be able to help. He'll probably know more than I will. So this is Hollywood Handbook and Insider's Guide to Kicking Butt and Dropping Names in the Red Carpet Linebacker Hallways of this industry we call Showbiz. What up, what up? And it's Tony Hawk.
Starting point is 00:01:41 It's Tony Hawk here. Hello, hello. Tony, how do you want to be introduced? Yeah, skateboarding. Correct. Is that the main thing? Skateboarder. Yeah, I don't know skateboard.
Starting point is 00:01:52 I'm not actively skateboarding right now, so skateboarder works for me. Could be interesting. They don't know that, Tony. Could have been good. Tony, they don't know that? Yeah. We'll still have fun, but we could have have pretended i am doing kickflips as i speak
Starting point is 00:02:07 and thank you and i see that tony let's talk about let's not get too far ahead of the audience let's talk about what skateboarding is skateboarding is it's very almost like very low rise siamese rollerblades now talk about this well that's a bit of the cart before the horse because uh i think skateboarding came along much sooner than rollerblading ever did although it was a direct descendant of roller skates. So, it comes full circle that way. Talk about roller skates. Roller skates are cool.
Starting point is 00:02:54 They're an inspiration to you, yes? Yeah. I mean, the first skateboards were made with roller skate trucks of wheels. Like, literally pulling them off the bottom of shoes and nailing them on the two by fours. That was the first skateboard. And the first skateboarder was a roller skater. Whose shoe got tied together by a prankster.
Starting point is 00:03:14 I can't answer that. I don't know. Okay. But I do, I do know that, um, I went to Sierra Leone a long time ago, uh,
Starting point is 00:03:23 like 15 years ago on a charity mission, and I brought my skateboard. And the kids there had never seen a skateboard, and they called it Roller Boogie. Roller Boogie. And they said, I want to try the Roller Boogie. Let me try Roller Boogie. Which I thought was super cool. It's better. Yeah, it makes you think that we settled on skateboard a little too fast.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Everything about it is better. Roller Boogie. Roller boogie. Roller boogie was on the table. Pro roller boogier. Think about how much better your life would be if your entire career you'd been called a pro roller boogier instead of like skateboard. Pressure, because that means you kind of got to dance, too. Brother, you're telling me um so speaking of roller boogieing that actually gives me an idea for how to retitle the new tony hawk game we're obviously here to help you brainstorm we're gonna design some aspects of the game uh it's a well-known franchise but it
Starting point is 00:04:27 could use a fresh coat of paint no one better than me and the haze man we've created a lot of very famous very popular games on this show um fight haver the drive fast edition the video game version of the film the Proposal? Or was it? Is that right? Oh, Indecent Proposal? No, just regular proposal. Although we're open to doing that one too. That could be the sequel.
Starting point is 00:04:57 That's a great idea. And so we're helping each other. Oh, and we should double back. Do you know how to order egg, Tony? Egg? Order an egg? Yeah. How egg? Well, if it's prepared, maybe. Not an egg in its shell.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Yes. No, you can't get it in the shell. They only deliver it loose. I went to the grocery store last week, and they had plenty of eggs. And I thought, cool, I'll get two. Should we be bragging about that? Last week, it was a lot different than be bragging about that? Last week. It was a lot different than this week. Whole other world last week.
Starting point is 00:05:30 But I do have a big family. I do need to get groceries. It is essential. And Kevin, can you say we recorded this two weeks ago so that last week is actually appropriate? Hey guys, Chef Kevin here. You got it. I'll hold up like an old newspaper. Perfect.
Starting point is 00:05:43 It's fine. I will still own it. I do need to get groceries for my family. Just marinating on this idea. Is that a game? Tony's big family rolling for the addition.
Starting point is 00:05:59 And it's about how Tony has to manja his whole family. Manja. They all to manja his whole family manja they all must manja this very
Starting point is 00:06:12 what like cannibals no you don't manja them I think he has used manja wrong I think you can do that in the game but then you lose if you eat your family that's game over there's probably a special code where you're allowed to do that, but it is only for the citizens.
Starting point is 00:06:27 It's like a Grand Theft Auto cheat. It's a patch. Alright. My story is that I went to the grocery store. I got two cartons of eggs. I got to the front and the guy removed one and said, you can only get one carton of eggs. Wow. Is that true?
Starting point is 00:06:43 No wonder there were plenty of eggs. and then he put it next to his his um scanning thing like nope and that's a fake story or real that's a real story land of the free huh bags aren't free i wasn't trying to hoard them we are going to go through them anyway you have a series of famous tweets so you go through customs and people recognize you and they make comments to you, correct?
Starting point is 00:07:13 Yeah, or the opposite where they look at my ID and they see my name and they don't connect the dots. They know it's the same name as the guy they know but they can't imagine that it's actually me in front of them it happened yesterday
Starting point is 00:07:28 and those are fake? those stories? those are all real why are you accusing me of all this fakery? no we're helping you this has never been put on record like this yeah do I need to exaggerate them and make them fake? is that what you're saying?
Starting point is 00:07:44 well I guess what I'm saying is, in the same way as bragging about the grocery store, people are supposed to not be doing unnecessary travel right now. So I think it is possible that those kind of tweets are doing real damage. You must agree with that. I will say that it happened to me yesterday, and I refrained from sharing it because i didn't want to because it implied that you were traveling yeah that i was
Starting point is 00:08:11 out and about and i was i was at the grocery store so even then it's going to drown itself in the negativity of being out and about as opposed to just enjoying the interaction that did actually happen that was actually really funny. And I just have to say that. So by not posting it, in a way, the grocery store became a grocery store, didn't it? It became what? A grocery store because you experienced growth. You exhibited real human growth. Growth, yes.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Absolutely. Your company is called The Bird's House, correct? Birdhouse. Birdhouse. This is because The Bird's House, correct? Birdhouse. Birdhouse. This is because Hawk is a kind of bird? Thank you. Yes. You'd be surprised how many people don't connect that. I'm still refusing to.
Starting point is 00:08:57 Tell me why it's named that. Because I break apart birdhouses to make them into skateboards. That's why. Oh, the birds have nowhere to live. And now the birds are homeless. Yeah. Well,
Starting point is 00:09:11 the birds are laying their eggs in places where we can access them. Yeah, exactly. So when Tony goes to the grocery store, you only get one carton of eggs. It's okay. The birds are laying their eggs on the ground now because he broke all the bird houses. The ultimate supremacy of man over nature. You got it. That's a powerful message for this day and age that we will prevail. Humanity's tough.
Starting point is 00:09:35 We've beaten the birds. We've taken their homes. And so what is some little crazy, you know, microscopic bug that's creeping around for us to defeat now. But I do want to get to the game. And the game is Tony's Big Family Roller Boogie Edition, Maja style. We obviously, I noticed in some of these games, we kind of get dropped right into the skateboarding, which is maybe the least interesting part. We don't really get a backstory of why are we skateboarding why now where were we yesterday and what were we doing the day before and where we go
Starting point is 00:10:13 to school and so we do want to try to instill uh the message of like let's tell the story of who this person is and if we get to the skateboarding great that would you know that'll be fun at the end of the game but let's sort of set the foundation so that we can build a house that lasts. Did you go to college, Tony? I did not. Not yet. There you go. Never too late.
Starting point is 00:10:40 That's the answer. The answer is not yet. I got to remember that that we do believe in you thank you wow i gotta work on my applications now when some of these yahoos made college free you know what's gonna stop you yeah exactly no everybody can go then tony hawk can go my sat stores no it's true for the right price it's true it's true so yeah no we should work on your application so i guess the first when you open like the load screen of the game it'll say like starting application and then we'll fill out our college applications
Starting point is 00:11:18 um yeah there's probably a personal essay portion uh that you can write as part of the game. Maybe like, Oh yeah. What's a summer that changed your life? Yeah. Is there like a summer experience that changed your life or made you appreciate your family more, you know, and we could write that out. Do you have like a, a story like that, that we could help prompt people to type into the game? a story like that that we could help prompt people to type into the game wow um yeah but i feel like i shouldn't give them any hints okay like they've got to figure it out for themselves one hint one little hint it's so tiny a tiny hint could just be the name of like a seed or something yeah we took all the kids we took all the kids to Iceland a couple years ago. That's Lola. She's mad that the wind is blowing. She doesn't like it. Me too.
Starting point is 00:12:16 That really makes me insane. Yeah. Well, mostly it frightens her. Read the room, wind. Even though she's a scary beast. Exactly. You know what I mean? Now's not the time.
Starting point is 00:12:27 It's not about you right now. No, my dog is mad right now, too. Apparently, on my street, there's another dog. Oh, that's crazy. Yeah, well, that's what he said. He's been going, no way, right? Yeah, it's been a big conversation between all of us. I bet.
Starting point is 00:12:52 So, yeah, if you don't want to give a hint about the summer that you had. No, he said Iceland. Oh, I said, yeah, we took all the kids to Iceland a couple years ago, and it was fun, and there were a few challenges we met with, and we all kind of came through it better rotten shark did you eat the fetid shark uh i have but not that trip not in iceland just i i did have at home yes i in iceland i did have it's not penguin but what is it called um uh chicken what's the other no the other type of penguin ah dolphin you know i'm talking about
Starting point is 00:13:36 yes yes yes it doesn't matter puffin puffin yes puffin meat i i had I had an Icelandic tasting menu and they served puffin. Barbara's organic puffins. Yeah, it's cereal. It's not good. It's really not good. Puffin's no good? Yeah. No, peanut butter ones are okay.
Starting point is 00:13:56 Brett has... So Brett's holding a guitar. Brett is locked and loaded right now. This is Brett. Tony, this is Brett. Hey, Tony. It's nice to meet you you i'm just here ready if you need me i have you know i'm a big fan of the games and when i when i heard the the college application screen to me that got ideas really turning like yeah i'd love to hear what does the college application screen sound like?
Starting point is 00:14:26 And maybe even you could, if you have the chops, you could riff us all the way into checking into the dorm room and getting set up and then kissing our parents goodbye. Oh, wow. Wow. Like. Okay. okay all right nice where are we in the game now okay well i've just filled i've just written a little essay about how i i guess didn't eat rotten shark even though that's what it's famous for. And then now I am like setting up my lava lamp. I'm putting up my Fight Club poster that's in Italian.
Starting point is 00:15:14 I'm I'm setting up some really funny like Funko Pops and stuff like some obscure ones for people to discuss when they come in. That's pretty. I feel like that is a pretty peppy tune, though. You've got to be doing that quickly. Oh, yeah, yeah. No, we've got to rush through this because we have so much to do before we even get to the character learning about what a skateboard is. Yeah, it's kind of like in Mario when you're running out of time, it gets really fast.
Starting point is 00:15:44 Right, yeah. really fast. Right. Yeah. That's my daughter. I honestly think that's one of my daughter's biggest fears is when the music starts getting so doomed like that. Mm-hmm. When it's just basically a video game saying you're fucked. No, don't put her in the army. No offense.
Starting point is 00:16:04 Because it's much scarier in the army. I'm not. No, the army's way scarier than Mario. Army. And so all the Funko Pops are set up, and then your roommate comes in to be like, Hey, what's up? And it is a whole family.
Starting point is 00:16:23 So it's kind of this new modern instant family that we see now in 2020 where like you go to college and your roommates are a woman and a lot of children right this is something that is happening now okay i didn't know that well because you didn't go but you don't know yeah but i guess i'm going soon yeah well when you go now you'll actually be prepared because hayes is kind enough to explain to you that your roommate is often a woman several children and possibly she's she's going to college the whole family is everybody is so they're like a bunch of doogie housers they're sort of they're all like one unit so like they are essentially one doogie houser they all take classes together they all
Starting point is 00:17:21 take tests together as as a as a unit the family is one and they get one diploma at the end is how it works and lola as well gets to go okay that's a lot of explaining do you think that's going to be difficult for people to understand in the video game yeah i feel like that storyline is is little getting a little complicated. That your roommate's an entire family that's attending college as a single student? As a collective one student, yeah. I don't want to be offensive, Tony. I mean, you're not the audience for this. You're maybe slightly out of touch with the people who are playing your games
Starting point is 00:18:00 who probably are dealing with this firsthand almost every day. Yeah, I'm not the demo okay i get that yeah i'm just trying to get to the action that's all dude yes and i would like to do that too and for me the action is signing up for classes i see like it's figuring out like okay what what can i take that's for me And what can I take that's for my future? Because I don't want... And can you get in? I do know that.
Starting point is 00:18:29 I mean, I have kids in college, so at least I get that. Yeah. It's impossible to get the classes you want. Yeah. But here's the thing, Tony. You don't have to decide everything right now. You don't have to... You're just starting college.
Starting point is 00:18:42 You don't have to pick... The courses you take now are not the career you're going to have for the rest of your life. Right. You don't have to. You're just starting college. You don't have to pick. It's not the courses you take now are not the career you're going to have for the rest of your life. Right. You don't have to have it all planned out. Yeah. Don't put that pressure.
Starting point is 00:18:52 Most people change majors 13 times in their first year of college. All right. And they change careers twice that much in their second year of college. How do you get high scores? High scores? Yeah. Well well in the game study unfortunately there's no substitute oh i see you know kids that are actually in college are going to play the video game about being in college
Starting point is 00:19:20 and spend equal amounts of time on that so don't you think that would reflect their real life yeah no it is this is how they will be going to college as well yeah this is so imagine this tony there's all like you buy a game for like whatever three hundred dollars whatever these things cost now and you play the game and it has no meaning to your life. Not relatable doesn't apply. We can create a game that people will, that costs a college tuition. And it is college. And you are taking this, you're playing this game
Starting point is 00:19:56 and you are taking college and going to college. And at the end, when you graduate the game, you walk up, you hand it to your boss and you say, I'm ready to work now. Wow. Okay. So that financially, it's going to be better for us. All right. We're replacing college. I know you want to grind the rail, but some of these people have to put their nose in the, to the grindstone and actually read a book. Oh. And so what about textbooks in the yeah that's sold separately of course you do you do the game has a an in-game bookstore and it is ultimately just a list of
Starting point is 00:20:33 directions to take you to the actual bookstore we're still working out the kinks with some of it like lola lola we don't have figured out bre got it Brett's like a huge music guy and so when I make a joke about how the kinks and Lola and able to put that together in a freaking nanosecond Brett is like right there and then you see me nod my head
Starting point is 00:20:58 really exaggeratingly because I got it okay ice cream mixture so is your roommate a cross dresser is that what you're saying no so this is and we're really gonna need to establish that this was recorded several weeks ago kevin just so that we're totally in the clear i believe that the song lola is about a man wearing women's clothing is Is that correct? Yeah. Yes. Brett? I mean...
Starting point is 00:21:27 I'm not trying to offend anyone. That's actually what the song is about. I don't have a problem with that. But is it offensive to name your... to name your dog after that? Oh. Well, my oldest son named her, and so I don't know
Starting point is 00:21:43 what the reference was. Hmm. Oh, wait. I'm playing Ape Man. It could be that other Lola song, though. Yeah. Yeah, Brett, play that. The other Lola song? Yeah, play it now. What's the other one?
Starting point is 00:21:59 Play it. Isn't there another one, Brett? Are you thinking of Layla, buddy? Oh, yeah, it might be. Sorry. Brett, will you play Layla, buddy? Oh, yeah, I might be. Sorry. Brett, will you play Layla, please? Yeah, good luck with that. Say Lola instead.
Starting point is 00:22:10 Good luck with that. Tony thinks he can't play it. That seems more difficult than the Kinks. Is that coming through? A little bit. Oh, yeah, that's it. You got it. All right.
Starting point is 00:22:31 Did you shower today, Brett? Oh, there you go. Wow. Oh, okay. Did you shower today? Good luck with that, huh? Good luck with that. I did not shower today, Hayes. Oh, I could tell because there's some
Starting point is 00:22:45 stank on that. Plenty of stank on the riff, brother. That sounded good. Thank you. It's by Eric Clapton. He's one of the original founders of the blues. Thank you. And so we're learning a lot
Starting point is 00:23:04 and I feel like I'm in college almost as we design this game. Can I teach a class on the blues? I think that would be nice. Yeah. Just something that we should have the student actually attend the class. So downloadable content upgrades. DLC. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:23 In-game purchase. Yeah. In-game purchase. More yeah in-game purchase more revenue stream good idea brett that's so smart so yeah so i'm gonna go ahead and click and i'm gonna pay like 300 or whatever it is to um get my like blues class from brett and now my guy is going and learning about the blues but Brett you have to say like some facts and stuff like talk about no man blues is about listening
Starting point is 00:23:54 it's about feeling it you don't talk about facts with the blues you either have it or you don't okay that's disappointing for me as someone taking the class that I already paid for. Yeah, just to find out that you either have it or you don't. But the only way you know you have it is to listen to me play it and you either feel it or you don't, right?
Starting point is 00:24:20 Or you drop out. Or you drop out. Look to your left. Look to your right now look back at me don't look at your right anymore listen to me okay yeah stop look at your left for the rest of class don't look there anymore look at me i'm the teacher you should be looking straight ahead hollywood handbook eating better is easy with factors delicious ready to eat meals every fresh never frozen meal is chef crafted dietitian approved ready to go in just two minutes speaking of ready to go in
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Starting point is 00:25:59 You're saying that you will be added on to your bed. To your bed, yeah. Your bed plus one. That's the opposite of what this is supposed to do. It's supposed to help you stay fueled up and feel good all day long. They have smoothies and things like that. Reservation for two? Me walking in my bedroom.
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Starting point is 00:33:40 I'm going get in the game. Okay, you grab the Frisbee and huck it way too hard. It goes flying and no one can find it. Everyone's mad at you. Damn it. Do I got to start over? Yep. You have to fill out a whole new essay.
Starting point is 00:33:58 So there should be a skateboarding element in this? Okay. It seems like we're jumping the gun. i think i go here in college it's just to get to class that's it that could be the coolest way to get to class yes so you are a skateboard you go to college with your uh your master the owner and they when they get to college they they lean you up against the wall behind the door and you're like disappointed because they're like meeting other friends and they've met this whole family now that's their roommate and they're not as focused on you the skateboard anymore and you miss them and you're like collecting dust behind the door
Starting point is 00:34:42 and maybe you're meeting like other stuff that's back there, like a tennis ball or something. But then he starts like taking you to class. That's cool. And so you hit the A button to just kind of like gently kick the skateboard along to class. Yeah. And then you can take out other people's shins on the way and and and how do you do this with your with your foot or you just use the skateboard you run into their shin you just you just kind of misdirect him so the nose runs into different shins or we call it a shark bite if you go behind the ankle.
Starting point is 00:35:25 Iceland. Yeah. Could be an interesting... Take a big bite of shark in Iceland, huh? I'm just bringing it around. No, but yeah, you bark their shins, and I guess we want to design the deck for the skateboard. Obviously, it's not just going to be a plain wooden surface. It could be a still image from the film Finding Neverland.
Starting point is 00:35:49 Okay. You know what I mean? Just something to say, hey, I'm a lover of film. I obviously want to know my history, but the movie about the life of J.M. Barrie,
Starting point is 00:36:03 Finding Neverland. Did you see this Tony? have you watched that? no now that is fake and now of course I saw leaving Neverland I didn't see Finding Neverland okay
Starting point is 00:36:20 well you have to find it first so that is so that is out of order okay i think there are two entirely different um concepts though it's a 2004 historical fantasy drama film it was directed by mark forrester okay thank you seven nominations at the 77th Academy Awards. So we're back in 2004, and you're saying, okay, seven nominations. Somehow I need more nominations.
Starting point is 00:36:52 Maybe an eighth nomination and I go check out the flick. Maybe. At that point, your body's a little too high. Maybe I think it's just too played out. Maybe I think I got too much attention, and I am here holding it down. Okay. I see. think it got too much attention and i am here holding it down okay well what's the what's the underrated very secret movie you saw in 2004 instead of finding neverland that we can direct
Starting point is 00:37:11 our audience to go and check out oh man i don't have that on my fingertips okay and he's lying again you're you're all looking up everything and i'm just here. I am fully fixated. You have my full attention. I'm not out like searching the internet for other facts and directors and nominations, but I will if you want. Champa would carry water. No, no, no. It's fine. I want you in the moment, man.
Starting point is 00:37:37 So Semper in presente. I think that you. Oh, okay. 2004. I got it. Shaun of the Dead. There you go. I looked it up. Okay. That's my 2004 movie.
Starting point is 00:37:50 And that's because my name's Shaun and you wish I was dead? Yeah. I wish you were in the zombie apocalypse. Well, I'm pretty close to it these days. Yeah, that's my choice. There you go. That movie... Is good.
Starting point is 00:38:04 Is pretty good. It's not scary scary enough i wasn't scared at all okay what i remember is keeping my eyes open and staying and not getting under my seat because i was feeling just actually not scared even a little bit during it so So I was laughing, but mostly at how unscary it was. Well, it's fake. I was screaming fake at the screen. Almost the entire thing is fake. Every time someone died or got hurt,
Starting point is 00:38:33 I was screaming fake. Oh my God. That's so fake. And so I remember everyone else in the theater having a good time because of the energy I was able to bring to it. But I don't remember the film itself, really. Strange not to mention Eurotrip, which also came out in 2004 and was real and is a movie that actually did happen. Do you remember Eurotrip?
Starting point is 00:39:03 Kind of. Fred Armis is bothering him on the train. Oh, no, I didn't see that. Okay. Was that because I think they either are about to go to college at the movie? Is that right? Yeah, I just fanned all the college movies. It's the last trip before college, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:19 Yeah. I can see why you weren't a fan. Yeah. We should pick some songs. Please. We have to do new songs for the game. Stuff that's like new. But they should sound like songs we know.
Starting point is 00:39:34 No, I mean like new songs. I don't want to be too weird. Oh, you mean like new songs that have never been in the game before, but are existing songs. Well, we could also do new songs. Do you want to? Brett's good at songs. Brett can do songs. Well, we could also do new songs. Do you want to? Brett's good at songs. Brett can do songs.
Starting point is 00:39:48 Thanks, man. Tony, do you want to create a little bit of the soundtrack? I feel like you're checked out on the game. It seems like the college thing is not connecting for you. You're really pushing to get to the action, but I don't know what you think that is if we're not attending class and earning a degree so that we can get a better job.
Starting point is 00:40:04 I threw in the skating, the taking out pedestrians the skating skating to class that's right i guess that's that's my wheelhouse that shit was epic that was epic wind sauce no that i was like so if we can get maybe we can get the music to that segment i would be happy okay wheelhouse could have been a better more accurate name for your company. And while the secret of it, that it is like a bird and hawk and stuff, was very easy for me, for some people, it was very confusing. And now, wheelhouse, we're understanding that because that's basically what a skateboard is. Yeah. We make more skateboards than wheels, though, so that would be tricky.
Starting point is 00:40:43 But I get it. How is that even possible? Yeah, there's four wheels. Well, wheels are not our specialty. We make the decks, and so people buy other types of wheels. You have to borrow the wheels? But you do make some wheels. Some.
Starting point is 00:40:58 Do you make bearings? I remember always having to replace my bearings. I remember always having to replace my bearings. Yeah, we basically make sort of mid-tier bearings and wheels and trucks for complete skateboards. But if you want to go higher end, you would get more component stuff. And, you know, we can have all that, all those available in, in app purchases. Yeah. No. Well, I mean, the thing is, the way I see these games layout where you're going to buy a board or you're going to buy wheels, it's like, as if they're already made,
Starting point is 00:41:32 we don't go into the factory at all. We don't select different alloys, polymers or anything. Let's, you know, let's actually make this a game that teaches people, Oh, that's how a wheel starts. Okay. Just back it up. Yeah. Oh, they're unionizing.
Starting point is 00:41:53 The workforce is unionizing. You got to deal with that. Okay, let's move this production overseas. What do we do? Poison the water cooler. Yeah. And what is the soundtrack to that? What's the,
Starting point is 00:42:09 what's the soundtrack to poisoning the water cooler and eliminating breaks? Can you hear that? Yeah, but you have to sing to Brett. Poisoning the water Poisoning the water Pick out a new ball bearing Do I move to a factory in China? Do I move to a factory in America?
Starting point is 00:42:44 Do I select new game that's good yeah unfortunately by by poisoning the water cooler and eliminating breaks we have made it so that nobody is using the water. Nobody's drinking the water. Oh, I see. I was getting a Judas Priest, freaking law kind of vibe from that. Oh, hell yeah. No, he's saying you copied them, Brett. It's not a compliment.
Starting point is 00:43:17 He's saying that you pretended to do something. I liked it. I mean, Tony's got a keyboard behind him. Did you want to get in there with Brett and start jamming? It's broken. Sounds even better that way. Brett could probably fix it remotely. Brett, just eyeball it in the background there and tell him.
Starting point is 00:43:38 What's missing? Yeah, get in there, Brett. You just got to bash the keys a little bit. There is actually actually two keys that are sticking up and they are irreparable we should put Judas Priest painkiller in the game
Starting point is 00:43:53 okay oh yeah I think that's the underrated Judas Priest song okay you're saying that the song that Tony mentioned was is overrated and played out well definitely for them yes absolutely I would be surprised that the song that Tony mentioned is overrated and played out? Well, definitely for them, yes.
Starting point is 00:44:08 Absolutely. I would be surprised if it hadn't been used yet in one of the games. What do we think about the song that Adam Driver sings at the end of Marriage Story? Oh, being alive? Yeah, being alive. That's really interesting because so much
Starting point is 00:44:30 of, yeah, so much of our life, especially when we're young and not really appreciating what we have, that our bodies are beautiful and supple and that our minds are razor sharp and we're stressed out about classes and all
Starting point is 00:44:46 these other things. We don't appreciate that we don't have any real responsibilities yet. And I think being alive has this message of like, wait, let's stop down and kind of appreciate some of this stuff. And it's about relationships, obviously, too, and finding someone to share your life with which i think around the time of college you better be looking at that or you are going to end up out in the cold did you see that tony i did not mary story did only only nominations uh yeah exactly what were you watching instead baby driver Once it reaches three, I don't watch them in protest. There you go. I see.
Starting point is 00:45:29 Sick. That's metal. Three nominations. There you go. I'm counterculture. What can I say? Shit. That's metal as fuck. Tony, we do want to try to tie in our episodes a little bit into the current news situation.
Starting point is 00:45:50 Do you have any skateboard tricks that you would recommend for people who are in quarantine and can't leave their house? Is there a safe skateboard trick that you've invented that people can do just sort of on their couch or when they're putting on their gloves to get their mail or anything like that? I feel like if you use your couch as a ledge, it's very springy and it kind of gives you new options. Right. So you can like half grind it and then kind of bounce off the couch. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:23 Or just or like all into it and literally bounce off of it. Yeah. Or just, or like Ollie into it and, and literally bounce off of it. So that's the thing about sort of what I said, all these other, well, you don't have to grind. I'm talking about just going stationary. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:35 No, of course. Yeah, no, you could go stationary and just Ollie into it, but it's just like your, yeah, I said bounce off it.
Starting point is 00:46:40 And then you were like, literally bounce off of it. And it was as if your idea was like, so new, but it's fine. It's cool. This is your thing. The skateboarding is your thing. My thing is education.
Starting point is 00:46:51 It's a collective idea. We're all part of the same team here. Yeah. Yeah. That's what, that's why I want to make sure we're careful about the way we collaborate where if you're saying something that someone maybe just said in their previous idea yeah it's just at the end of the day i'm gonna get more money for it so i need it to be more of my idea okay is that cool yeah that's obviously not what motivates me you can see i live in a pretty
Starting point is 00:47:19 humble office you have your big office with your broken keyboard so that's and that's kind of like an allegory for the whole thing isn't it the big nice office and yet the keyboard the soul of the office is broken it just keeps me grounded did you break it skateboarding yeah we're going crazy in here i'm trying to skate the keyboard that's how desperate it is that's quarantine the springy couch idea could be really interesting if one thing about some of the other games which whose idea with the springy couch mine or tony's no matter whose it was the other games something that is boring and frankly kind of stupid about them is you're never like getting on a secret spring like a springy thing that's like boing and it's like bouncing you into a secret world into like uh being able to quarantine yeah exactly being
Starting point is 00:48:18 like and that's making people safe like okay you hit the secret spring and now you're in your house yeah sucked into a tube into your house where it's safe to be you're not going to the grocery store bragging about it you're not doing unnecessary travel you're not going just going to the customs desk at the airport just to be like you guys don't look familiar we're not doing that we're not doing that and the game no i say that yeah yeah you look familiar you're here every day yes we recognize you yeah gonna buy a flight today tony or just window shopping again i just want to get through customs and see what happens that'll be so nice when this is all over and you get to go to customs
Starting point is 00:49:10 again yeah i want that for you that's what i'm looking forward to the most just so i can just so i can collect more tweets that's that's it hollywood handbook well there's a reason they call me the march maniac i get maniacal around this time of year because March Mania is happening in DraftKings Sportsbook. One of America's top-rated sportsbook apps is giving new customers and maniacs like me a shot to turn $5 into $150 instantly in bonus bets with any college basketball bet. Those maniacs are even more maniacal than me, the March maniac. And during March mania, I get a little maniacal. And let me tell you something.
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Starting point is 00:52:55 a difference there like you yeah i mean i've had things happen to me that i suppose you would find funny okay but that you didn't find funny and and you have not really and you have things that have happened that you would find funny but the rest of the world would not yeah i guess i'm interested in that one that i would find funny yes but that others would not find funny you seem to think that you have like a specific taste when it comes to what's funny or ridiculous that is not i ordered uh um like a scented spray for my pillow to help me sleep at night like a lavender scent okay and uh they accidentally sent me two okay so you understand that most people would not buy that funny or ridiculous
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Starting point is 00:55:01 Do you want to hear what happened to me that you might find yes yes sure but that you didn't yeah so you're attuned to this stuff i got my foot stuck in the dryer at the laundromat and it somehow turned on and you know that that was something other people would find funny based on well the responses you were getting. A lot of people inside that laundromat seemed to find it pretty humorous when my legs started spinning around and flipping me over.
Starting point is 00:55:36 What happened was I was holding my laundry basket with both hands and I saw, ooh, still a sock left in the dryer. So I stuck my foot in and tried to pick it up with my little toesies. I wear sandals. Punk. And as I'm picking it up, I just sort of tripped,
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Starting point is 00:56:55 phone yes you select that one and then you go from there this is this is how we used to have to do it when we were in college you used to have to do it when we were in college. You used to have to, people now have this whole keyboard to type on, but it used to be that you had to flip through every single letter one by one. And that actually taught you to be careful about what you were saying. For sure. So Brett, do you have a soundtrack to us writing the thesis? It doesn't have to be being alive from Marriage Story. It could be really any show tune.
Starting point is 00:57:28 What kind of feel do you want for this one? The final boss, right? Yes, it is. It is the final boss. Before you get into the job market. It's like a scary boss. That's not scary to me. I'm actually feeling even braver hearing that.
Starting point is 00:57:54 I'm laughing at how not scary that is. Is that scary? 76 trauma bones. 76 trombones. And we gotta go. Yeah. That's more the vibe we were looking for. Terrifying. Let the big parade.
Starting point is 00:58:20 Yeah, that's pretty sweet. This is giving me the feeling of a parade. There's trombones. I'm typing. It's taking a long time, but I'm getting my message across. I'm supporting my thesis. I'm citing all of my references. And I'm actually attaining skills that are going to be very useful in the new job market that I'm entering.
Starting point is 00:58:47 Now, do we want to do an unpaid internship? Tony? I guess that would be the only free to play element of the whole thing. Right. And obviously, it's a lot of work and you have to your parents have to be able to support you during that process so that's what the the game asks it's like they make sure that your parents are wealthy enough to pay your rent and your like kevin actually when he first started at that earwolf is that right kevin i had other jobs working for your your parents my dad Is that right, Kevin? I had other jobs. Working for your parents. My dad. Is that right?
Starting point is 00:59:30 Sending your parents an email every day. A check-in. Well, that's what happens if you select Kevin as a character. You go straight to the final boss. You can kind of skip all of the hard stuff. Yeah. Who else is in this game yeah who else should we encounter who are the new who are the new skaters that we should know about
Starting point is 00:59:54 who are the new um oh there are many uh i mean the number one pick right now for the olympics was going to be naja houston but they just postponed the olympics so um but definitely him he did not go to college though none i can't say many of them did yeah yeah yeah it's true yeah yeah i saw him in a college talk about that kevin okay um I was at watching a skate competition and he won and it was at USC. So I was like, wow, look at this. Here we all are. You were watching it and it
Starting point is 01:00:34 was elsewhere or it was at USC? It was at USC. It was the skate league. Oh, okay. Kevin, your story's falling apart. Tony has identified some inconsistencies. Tony's a goddamn fucking bloodhound, man,
Starting point is 01:00:49 and he's going to get to the truth. Now, you've been talking out of both sides of your neck all day. Now, was it at USC or were you at USC? And what was going on there?
Starting point is 01:01:00 It was at USC and I went there to watch it. And he was there too? And he competed and won. That's the opposite of what you said the first time. Yeah, as he has many of them, yes. I think some of the new characters, because we do have this college element,
Starting point is 01:01:15 should be professors. We should have H Block and R Block there to help you do your taxes at the end of every skating season. I think you should be encountering a lot of the sort of real life people that you need to help you, Tony. Sure. Could we get maybe like, um, if we achieve our dream of becoming professional skateboarder,
Starting point is 01:01:37 could we get a series of cut scenes talking to like our business manager? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Yes yeah yes yeah and you could portray them sure yeah so okay so i just won a big competition at usc even chef kevin was there to see me and i'm in talking to my business manager and i'm just saying like hey uh you know i appreciate everything you do for me but it's really not been very transparent. I don't know where a lot of my money goes, and then you're taking a percentage of it. I love that I don't have to do some of this paperwork on my own, but are you hiding something from me? tax bracket that's basically takes 70% of your income. So, um, you know, and I take a very small cut of that just to keep things in order. Um, and so you're going to have to work twice as hard in order to, uh, maintain your lifestyle. That's lesson number one. Okay, great. Yeah. That's a great inspirational message. It's like,
Starting point is 01:02:43 you just got to work twice as hard because let's face it you're unfairly overtaxed and taxation is theft is that correct i hey i don't make i don't make the rules i'm just i'm just the accountant i'm just trying to help you manage your resources okay this game is really good and what i think i like about it the best is this was kind of like a little secret trick that we did, is that Tony, you have now gone to college. So the next time someone asks you, did you go to college? You don't have to get that hang dog look on your face. You proudly puff up your chest and you go,
Starting point is 01:03:22 yeah, Hayes and Sean took me to college. Yeah. And we had a lot of fun doing it. Tony's big family Zoom boogie edition college. Manja edition. Manja mode. Well, I appreciate it, you guys.
Starting point is 01:03:38 No, I appreciate it. Is there anything else? I mean, at this point, it's just really someone's got to do the coding and the programming of this. The graphics, the rendering. Yeah. I think it should be like a text adventure.
Starting point is 01:03:57 Well, you should have said that at the beginning, Brett. Brett, it's too late. We've already come up with some cool images. There's already graphics. The instant family checking in next to you. We can't do that you kissing your parents goodbye at their station wagon we can't do that it's already being rendered yeah we're already drawing that so maybe do that at the beginning next time okay tony well something we like to say to our guests when they're here is that i do love you and i am in love with you. You don't have to say it back.
Starting point is 01:04:25 Obviously, if you're not comfortable, there's no need. We did just meet. But it's something that we say and I always like to say it, especially when I'm feeling a lot of warmth and reciprocity from the guests. So I'm just putting that out there for you. And then if you have any parting words and it doesn't have to be that but it could be
Starting point is 01:04:47 well I love talking to you guys okay and I actually am totally comfortable saying as well that I love you and I am in love with you so to me just listening to the two different things it sounds a little bit different than what you said
Starting point is 01:05:03 and again there's no pressure for you to say anything in particular it's what anyone's comfortable with To me, just listening to the two different things, it sounds a little bit different than what you said. And again, there's no pressure for you to say anything in particular. It's what anyone's comfortable with is what we want them to do. Maybe I should have seen Marriage Story then. No, that actually could have communicated a message to you that you might have internalized that could be useful to you right now. And if you want to take a second to think about your closing thoughts, Brett and Kevin maybe you have something you'd like to say to Tony yeah I'm playing this really nice music and it's just to me it's super comfortable and it feels natural to say I love you and I'm in love with you and um really that's all I've wanted to say this whole time thank you hi Tony Chef Kevin here wow um I actually was watching some tutorial videos of you uh and I used it to learn how to skateboard and then I got uh bullied by some kids this week because they said I
Starting point is 01:06:06 have room for improvement. Thanks, Lola. And I just want to say I love you and I'm in love with you. Thank you. Thank you, guys. Well, I guess based on peer pressure, I do love you and I'm
Starting point is 01:06:22 in love with you as well. Oh my god, Tony! Wow, and I'm in love with you as well. Oh my god, Tony! Wow, Tony Hawk is in love with me. That feels great. That's so nice. Thank you for doing the show and thank you for sharing those feelings that you have for us.
Starting point is 01:06:37 That's really, really nice. The game's going to be a smash hit. Keep doing everything you've been doing Good luck with the boogie roller And all And Manja your family And the grocery store
Starting point is 01:06:51 And if you need anything Literally anything at all Do not hesitate to ask Alright well As soon as you guys get back to me With an alpha build of this game I can give you feedback I have an alpha build of this game, I can give you feedback.
Starting point is 01:07:06 I have an alpha build. Yeah. Brett has one. Brett, send that over. I was born with an alpha build. I can send it over. He's sending it. He's sending me right now.
Starting point is 01:07:17 All right. God bless everybody. God bless you. Bye. Hollywood Handbook. That was a HeadGum Podcast.

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