How Did This Get Made? - A Beauty and the Beast Christmas LIVE!

Episode Date: December 15, 2023

The HDTGM crew deconstruct the 2019 ion original holiday movie, a Beauty and the Beast Christmas LIVE from the Pantages Theatre in Minneapolis. They discuss their obsession with Kensington, the logistics of Ginger's charity, how Ginger's never been kissed, Beau getting amnesia for only one scene, and so much more. Plus, Paul surprises June & Jason by going on a pilgrimage to a Minneapolis landmark. THIS EPISODE IS PRESENTED BY BEN CANNON. This March & April HDTGM is going on tour to the UK & Ireland! Go to hdtgm.com for tix and info.Follow Paul on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer/HDTGM Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmPaul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheerCheck out Paul and Rob Huebel live on Twitch (www.twitch.tv/friendzone) every Thursday 8-10pm ESTSubscribe to Unspooled with Paul and Amy Nicholson here: listen.earwolf.com/unspooledSubscribe to The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael here: www.thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcastCheck out The Jane Club over at www.janeclub.comCheck out new HDTGM merch over at https://www.teepublic.com/stores/hdtgmWhere to find Jason, June & Paul:@PaulScheer on Instagram & Twitter@Junediane on IG and @MsJuneDiane on TwitterJason is not on Twitter

Hello, people of Earth, or should I say, Aleo Govna, because for the first time ever, how did this get made is going on a European tour, Sash vacation to the United Kingdom and Ireland. Yes, you've asked for it. We are doing it from March 28th to April 3rd. We will be traveling around London, Glasgow, Belfast, and Dublin tickets are on sale now. Head to

httgm.com for more information. Mr. Jackass meets Ms. X-Mass. We saw beauty in the Beast Christmas, so you know what that means. Jake did make porn in the movies to June Gonna take you some of the poof of the way that you wrote Rind again, the shrink pot I hoped you'd hold your whole wall still Just to suck a bunch to our life, the tipping to the brain Shot me in the shit, the ferns, and we can't be staying alive They call me when you're bad ass, and he's on the line Breaking hate, shit, livin' is cause they cool his eyes Cause they're bad, jiffon, he lookin' kind of like

Holy shit, you're illiterable, Jason is getting late Dulles make the shower, the monkey shots in the plane They're just a bunch of movies Money should be in the pool Jason is getting laid Do this make the show out of what you shot in the plane They're just a bunch of movies Why be making the great Is a real question for you How did this kid hang? Hello people of earth

And hello people of Minneapolis We are in Minnesota for the first time ever in the heart of Minneapolis to talk about one of the best Christmas movies ever made. The year 2019, the topic social media influencers really gets to the heart of what Christmas is all about. Like, follow, subscribe, all of those things coming to play. I will say this, when you hear the title Beauty and the Beast Christmas, it's not to be confused with the Disney one, with Paul Rubens and Tim Curry as an evil organ.

No, no. This is a different kind of beauty in the beast. As a matter of fact, I would say, if you're familiar with the story of Beauty in the Beast, it shares very little with that. So much so that I was waiting for who's the who's the beauty and who's the beast. I think I know I don't want to break it down any more than that But all I'll say is to flailing social media stars Find a perfect union. It's weird again. I like that's that's enough

That's enough information if you haven't seen it. We'll break it all down But first let me introduce my co-host. Please welcome to the stage Mr. Jason man, Zuckus What's up jerks That's right that That's right! How we doing, Minneapolis? Yes! Last night of the tour, what's up, Alcanine? Yes!

Yes! Holy shit! The balcony is fucking wasted! Jason, you and I have done a lot of movies on this podcast. A lot of movies, and we- You tell me that, but sure. It's been what, 13 years? Rrrr. Gagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagagag this podcast where I think to myself, well, it can't get any weirder. And, and this one really broke you?

Yeah. In a way that was like, wow. Wow. Here's the essential question I have that I expect for all of us at the end of the podcast to understand the answer. Who is beauty? Who is the beast? A question. Who is beauty? And who is the beast? A question that I started it off with. Yes, it will be answered. And you know what? There's no one better than to answer that question.

question. Then my other cause, please welcome June, Diane, Raphael. Welcome June, how are you? I'm okay. I'm okay. It's so hard. I love the holidays. I love Christmas. I loved it all until today when I had to see this movie. And I'm really concerned because we've done two Christmas movies in the last four days. And I was getting close to getting in the spirit, and now I hate Christmas. Both? I will say both.

Both movies make me want to become a scrooge or a grinch. And Jason, you and I backstage last night, we're talking about the holidays, what we love about the holidays, we're talking about our ornaments, we're talking about our trees, our traditions, how much I love the holidays. We're talking about Paul's Christmas village. And today, I was like, I'll be bed by then.

Oh, I don't want them. I don't want them. No, no, no, no, no. So yeah, this is, this has got to stop. I can't do this again. Okay. This was, I, no, no. So yeah, this has got to stop. I can't do this again. OK. Well, I'm not going to lie. This was chilling on every single level.

And how much of, I believe, an accurate portrayal of influencer lifestyle, it is, is its most scathing indictment. Here's what I will say. There's a question on the table. Who is beauty, who is beast? We'll get to that. I want to, yeah, we better because I'll answer it right now. Noah is the beauty.

Francesca is the beast. Beans. Beans. Okay, all right, wow. Okay, interesting now. You say Francesca. Who's Francesca? Francesca. Hi, do you want to remember?

Ginger holiday? No. Noah. Noah is his son. Noah, who's Noah? Noah is son. Noah, Noah is the little boy. Oh, boy, okay, got it.

Yes, thank you. And Francesca is the girl. Oh, is the little sister? Yeah. The little sister who just inexplicably appears. And Francesca is the girl. Oh, is the little sister? Yeah. The little sister who just inexplicably appears. And then disappear. And Bow is just putting charge of? She's my little sister now.

I will say that Larissa, you might recognize her. Larissa Lucifer? Yeah. Larissa Lucifer? Yeah. Larissa Lucifer, yeah. Well, you might recognize Larissa. Did you guys not? She did look familiar, actually. Oh, I jumped up when I saw her.

No. Oh, I have zero. I have zero. Open marriage, y'all. Open marriage. Remember? She did an open marriage. No.

The movie that we did. That's a movie we did? We did a movie called Open Marriage, right? It was about like the couple that decided that they were gonna have an open marriage and then one gets obsessed with the other one and they get shot in the head. What? I don't think so. Wait, oh wait, wait.

Is it the one with the underground sex club? Yes. Okay. Is this the one where it all takes place in like a loft? In a photographer's loft? Yes, okay great. Great, great. Slightly because you're all taking.

What do you mean slightly? Because there's also the one with the high school photography that's different. Okay. That is the photographer who is obsessed. This is two couples, the Underground Sex Club, and one gets more into it than the other. Wait, and this is just to identify.

Who Larissa is different? Larissa, yes, the other woman. Yes, okay. Well now, but I will say this. You, I'm so sorry, just to have gotten all the way there and I want to just go back to the beginning because you said you jumped up. You jumped up.

That is, that connotes a level of excitement and surprise that is, I'll be honest, shocking. I was like, oh shit, the girl from Open Marrow. Did the Leo meme? I know what it is. I was excited to see her because I thought that she was great. I thought she brought a lot to this. But again, I don't want to go off on Larissa

because she comes in in the third act. The question I wanted to ask you was this, and this is an honest, earnest question. Is this a comedy or is it not? Because I'm watching it and at points I'm like, oh, it's a comedy. And then immediately after, I'm like, I don't think it is.

Like I don't know if these choices, like, yes, there are jokes, but then there was like, is it meta? It's not meta. I don't think it's meta. There are, I believe, moments of meta commentary that I don't know if people are in or not. Sure.

But simply by the nature of doing this, they are at certain points just absolutely making fun of what it is they are doing. I think someone is, either the edit is being cruel to them or I'm not sure what, but there is a level of insanity that's happening in this movie that I would also believe if you told me none of these people knew they were being filmed.

Well, I mean, and they were just people having like psychic breaks that they were like, influencers gone wild. Well, my, my, the beginning of this movie really hurt my brain because when you meet Ginger Holiday, it looks like I don't know what's happening, right? Because there's no blocking or framing to let you know this is like a YouTube video, but watch this. This is like, this is how the opening scene fucked me up.

Clip one. Hi, I'm Ginger Holiday. It's only 207 days to Christmas, but that's not too soon to start celebrating all of the mariness, all of the brightness, the festive festivities. And I'm like, okay, she's talking to me. Well, it's not this is this is this ginger holiday.

Okay, this is heart-to-heart. Yeah, pause for a second. This is not her YouTube channel babe. Yeah, this is hard to heart the TV channel. This is a package. Yeah, this is where it gets the TV channel. This is a package. Yeah, this is where it gets confusing and why your brain broke This is a TV package about her. Yeah, talking directly to camera. I thought we're watching like an art town I believe I believe both are true. Okay, I don't know in front of our I'm sorry. No, I don't believe that they're true

I believe this is meant to simulate what her content is, but there is a now a voiceover on top of it, which is the heart to heart hose. Yes. Which is a channel I subscribe to under Amazon Prime. I love it. It is top notch entertainment news. They cover only the characters in Hallmark and Lifetime Christmas movies. And a lot of the artwork works, eat those, just the characters lives. And that's part of the agreement when you sign up to do a lifetime of you, you have

to act like like Sasha Baron Cohen, you have to be Oligi, and you have to go around and do a few things. You have to find a way though, this is not a lifetime movie. It's an Ion movie. And I, but I want to clarify that because we must put some respect on the lifetime holiday franchise. I agree. I agree. Okay, because their holiday movies are shot in Vancouver, I think, and they are shot in cold, Christmassy towns. Or at least they put some snow on the ground.

This movie is not interested in Christmas vibes at all. No. Here's what they've got. Access to a legitimate mansion. Yes. And $40 worth of dollar store Christmas decoration. And it's so hard because... That's what they've got.

That was the budget. How did this get me? How did this get me? What are we gonna talk about, Er a rash? Oh, I mean, per rash. You know what? We can talk about it now because that will allow us at least two hours to talk about how the fact that she dot dot been kissed. I wrote in my notes. Is she a virgin and then cut through?

She's never been kissed. Yeah, she's every virgin. It makes a lot of sense because this character, I can't find my way in or out of her. I'm like, what is happening? Any adult woman who wears colored stockings, multiple days in a row. Here's the thing, you're dressed like a fucking candy cane. Yeah.

Hard pass. This woman is so deeply unwell. As somebody who's obsessed with Christmas, 365 and makes Christmas their identity... Yeah. And puts it primarily over fucking. I would argue all relationships. All relationships.

Eh, he doesn't... Well, except for her relationship with Kensington. Yes What is Kensington is Kensington a Starting writing down every single thing Kensington did to be like what is wait what capacity is she here in? Can everyone see her is she invisible what is going on? I thought that too at one point I was like Is she invisible? What is going on? I thought that too at one point I was like. Because almost nobody talks to her. No, it's just truly during the food fight scene.

I mean, we're jumping all around. But during that scene, inexplicably, Kensington walks into it and starts to get in on the action. I think in these kind of wholesome movies, food fight is the sexy. This is my pitch. They get to touch on each other, they get to do all sorts of business with each other physically. And it's charged because there is no sexy and we're never going to build to that.

I think the food fight is the Hallmark movie, the wholesome movies version of Princess. This wasn't a Hallmark movie though. Okay. To be clear, this is an eye on original. Is that what this is? I don't want to misrepresent it, but Minneapolis, did you guys make this? Is eye on a local company?

But here's what I'll argue too. The idea of a fun sexy food fight is disgusting. So gross. I don't wanna be covered in mashed potatoes. A food fight as for play. Boo. I also don't like it when people feed each other stuff. Girl, wash your hands.

Gross. Get away from me, you monster. I also feel like her version of Christmas that she's into is so fucking weird. It's like she's into, and there's certain like the dekenzine Christmas, there's certain types of the carolers, all that, that I can get down with.

But her Christmas interests are so bizarre and stiff. But let's just be honest though, she's creating 365 days of content for Christmas since she's 13. At this point, it's gonna go off the rail. She has your pride. She's gotta be like, okay, cranberry underwear, we're doing it. This movie, this movie exists at a level

where she has such the weight of her audiences, her influencer audience, weighs so heavily on her as to Rob Christmas of all of it. Because I say something, you've been gone for a month, answer for yourself. But can I say something? I want to say something about her content calendar, because I was confused as to why she didn't bank extra content. Oh, Jim. Seems insane, especially in the lead up to the gala.

I'm not going on. Well, the gala can be. I ask a quick question? And I don't often like to like ask statusy kind of questions, but have you guys ever been invited to her gala? I mean, that's the thing. I always think we're going to get an invite and we never get one. I mean, June, you got one. You didn't get a, you didn't get a plus one. No, it was. I got one one year, but it's that you can only come at midnight See that's it's so Okay, I would like to spend roughly the next hour and a half discussing

the logistics and the infrastructure and the mission of her charity Yes, yes, and it is and it's Unparalleled success And it's unparalleled success. 20th, she's building 20 homes a year. That is a level of success that is astronomical. Here's what I couldn't understand, though. When I heard 20 homes, this is what I wrote down is this a comedy or is it not?

Because I understood it to be she was creating 20 homes for Christmas day and then kicking them back out. So I don't think that's true, but what is unresolved? So it's a great quote. There's so many questions about this charity, but please look into it. Please better business bureau. Whoever invest bed gets look into this charity, because I got to be honest, that home is pretty stately. One of the things that I couldn't understand is she says the reason why she wants to do it is because every, and I think this is where you were confused,

is because nobody should be alone over the holidays. And so yeah, you are forced to ask the question, is it a home just for the holidays? Home for the holidays. Air being being it up. What I couldn't understand is, who's with the foster children in the home? Are they the, who's with them?

What's the infrastructure? What is it? How does that work? What's the infrastructure? And are these, these are foster children who can't find homes. So aren't these just dot, dot, dot orphans? Yeah.

Isn't she making orphanages? And doesn't that make her a villain? Yeah. Now hear me out. Hear me out. 365 days a year. She creates content. Just so people help her build kid prisons Listen, she has a modern day faggin. This is all over twist. Actually, I was watching this movie and thinking like how fucked the foster care system is in the United States

And I was like you know what you fucking bitch take that money and give it to the families So they can keep kids in their homes. But June. So they don't have to become frost or kids. But June, the outfit she wears to the gala breaks the internet every year. And this world, her outfit breaks the internet. In this world, she is as popular as Kim Kardashian, right? But only in the niche.

20 million followers of Christmas. That's a lot. But now here's the thing I will say. This movie is as confusing as the advent calendar used to delineate where we are that in the movie. I agree. I have seen the Advent calendar be used as a scene transition device, national ambulance Christmas vacation, it makes sense. We're getting closer to it. This seems like we're months out, day 17, over here, up over here.

It's like they only had one Advent calendar and like, yeah, how does it work? We don't know. It's going up, it's going down, it's going sideways. I don't know where we are in the world. Because she, well, because she's somebody who celebrates Christmas every day, which is psychotic. It's psychotic. And I have friends who have all their Christmas stuff up already.

We just talked about it yesterday. And we named names. We named names already. We just talked about it yesterday. And we named names yesterday. Some bold, based names were discussed. And Paul and I are Christmas traditionalists. We don't put our tree up till the day after Thanksgiving. But we support, I used to think I supported whatever people wanted to do. You know?

And I told you I keep my tree up until February or Valentine's Day. And I was concerned when I was... When I needed to burn stuff. But I was like, you know what? Jason needs it up that long. Like, that's fine, that's great. Cool up needs it up this early.

That's fine, that's great. And I do, I feel like I've had a pretty open heart. I do too. I have an issue. I said you have to You talked to her. Yes, like you scolded her. No, I just said that she's cheating herself out of the great Transition between Halloween into Thanksgiving you take down the scary, but you leave up the pumpkins and then you get into that fault And then pumpkins are your bridge. Yes, yes but you'll leave up the pumpkins and then you get into that fall. The pumpkins. The pumpkins are your bridge. Yes, yes.

You're your binder. You take the witch off the hay bail and you got the hay bail and the pumpkins are having a nice time. You get that turkey out. And then because then it's something to look forward Thanksgiving. It's something to look forward to. And then you got the next thing to look forward to. You don't need your dessert first, people?

I know. And you guys feel differently, and that's okay. But I've tried to keep an open mind, but what Ginger Holiday does is absolutely unacceptable. And she is... She's the kind of person as an influencer you would believe would be put into jail eventually. Well, she should be because of the charity.

Yes! Well, you know what's up with the... Damn! That's how... Like, she's got like that Logan Paul drink. She's pushing... She's prying. Prime. Our kids are obsessed with prime.

Our kids are obsessed. And they have no entry point to Logan Paul. They don't watch Logan Paul. Our kids are obsessed with primal. Our kids are obsessed. What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What?

What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What?

What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? Oh, she just has a bird, like a rash of bird at her hairline from the edge. Totally fine, easily covered. And it's easily covered.

It's so easily covered with nothing but a wire phantom of the opera mask. That's all you need is a filigree to wire phantom of the opera mask to where you're wedding and you're totally normal? Okay, she is promoting a holiday where Santa hats are the norm. Pop that on and you're good. When she wears that little red riding hood, Kappa, I'm looking so hard to see it.

Well, even at the end, when she's like, look at me, I'm like, I'm trying. I'm trying to see it. I don't see it. Guys, do you think we're ever going to get to the bad boy of Baltimore? We will, Jayson. I just want to say, we absolutely will. I just want to say one thing about her rash, because-

Yes, because it is the inciting incident of the entire movie. Yeah, and it's what we're dealing with the whole time. And this is like, she lost a major deal because of this. Well, I mean, I think that she went off camera. She was already on the verge of losing this deal because when the agent comes over in the beginning, which by the beginning, which by the way, I don't know much about social media, but I guess the agent doesn't come over and start taping on his iPhone.

And I got it beyond his like, let's go. Right now we got it. What? We're taping it. We're watching a movie that exists in a world in which the cosmetics company Glitzen, not Donner, not Rudolph Glitzend. Glitzend is the biggest corporation in the entire world. They own these influencers outright. They own them completely and are completely monkey with their lives as if they are

the Illuminati or something. But it also seems like Glitzen is a primarily Christmas theme makeup company, because Glitzen and Blitzen, I would imagine, I don't think you would name your... I don't think there are just Christmas cosmetic companies. Well, that's it, but I think they, but then what, you wouldn't name your, you wouldn't go like, oh yes, we're,

we call ourselves Santa. Can you be like, it's like, it's like, old, I get Santa, I wouldn't name your, you wouldn't go like, oh yes, we're not going to call ourselves Santa. Can you be like this? It's like, old to, I get Santa, I don't. It could work, I don't know. I didn't take issue with that. I am genuinely, no, I didn't. I was genuinely concerned. Now, I don't know if anybody else in the audience recognized one of the dance moms.

Yes. You did? Yes, of course. Holly, Nias mom was playing the doctor. After seeing her on Dance Mom, it's like, that's her, that's Holly. Well, she's not an actress. And I'm going to say this with all with love.

She's so not an actress that I thought it was going to be revealed that she had some ulterior motive to keep them separate. Like that she was an enemy of the state. Oh, because when she was crazy, she was like, do not go near her. She's a fucking ticking time bomb. She's a doctor that comes to the house that delivers information. The way she delivered information. I leaned in

I guess that's a good thing, but I was also like it is why it's this Really good actors talk kind of quiet honestly It's like kind of hear them in this It's always very right here. Oh, it's always brain and you can't hear them in your god for a bit position Between between behind them in a movie You can't see what they're saying. And then they turn around and look at you like, it should turn the talk fuck off. And you're like, did you even say your line?

I thought I was an instant choice. I will say, her advice to Bo, to stay away from ginger, best advice in the movie. Okay. He should take that advice, take his son and leave. Okay, but first of all, guys, just took a back, there's not enough time, I'm so stressed out. I could do, I could do whisper voice the whole rest of the show. Not enough time. You said she had an alert direction to her hair dye.

It wasn't hair dye. Right. It was some sort of like crazy Christmas concoction. She made it holly. She like melted down holly and peppermint and like, but it is to dye her hair. It is to dye her hair. But it's not like she had a terrible reaction on her face.

But. I once had that. What do you mean? From the wig you were. face. But. I once had that. What do you mean? From the wig you were? Yeah. I remember that. I once wore a wig. I played this character, our Shiro Paul, where I played our

Sineo Hall, but it was me. And I had a wig. And the wig created like a perfectly farmed line of zits across my head. That was so aggressive that I didn't wanna leave the house, but yet I did. It was... It's a gift to my dermatologist and he figured it out.

Yeah, he had to get in there. Pfft, pfft, pfft. Pfft. Pfft. You know what, leave that part in. But that was gone, Paul, within. Thank you, Dr. Stoll. There is, like, so.

They've done our general listenership numbers, like 2.5 people who just got turned on because that's their fetish. But that, Paul. And they're all in the balcony here tonight. That parade of zits went away within, I wanna say like a week and a half. Her two weeks fine. Her two days.

Two days. Her reaction. We can have. Her reaction is there for months. Six weeks, the doctor tells her six weeks. That's a long time. It's an answer. But what's so pretty about that?

She's a multi-millionaire influencer who is having a random person just come to her home and be like six weeks. And then later is like, you know what, if you give her any stress whatsoever, she might die. It's permanent. From a reaction to fruit. Here, let's

watch the first dermatologist scene, scene form. Well, it's just like I thought the rashes I'm swelling on your face are allergic reaction to the acidity of the hollyberries that you use in your hair dye. I'm allergic to holly It is very rare and actually I've never seen it in person. Derek, can I have more cream on my face than that? Okay. I made you a quarter-cell. Why do I make a quarter-cell on your face? That white man has aggravated her condition and it's going to take them a slumber for a

heel. I can't think of anything. Like coming, hoping, forcing herself in. Beautiful face here. Doesn't have six to eight weeks. This beautiful face needs time to heal. Okay, that's great. But we have a client waiting on her

newest Christmas video, which is now four videos behind, so. What about a laser peel? That would make the rash worse. What a warm conference. Ooh, heat would aggravate the condition and make it permanent. I would avoid chemical stringent death only stay out of the pool. Wait, wait, did you just say permanent?

I did. So I could look like this forever. You could. Look at luck with that. That's a doctor. That's a doctor. That's a doctor's visit. A doctor had like a locked shop basically and they were like, everybody's got to fit in frame.

So just find a way to get in there. You're self lower, lower, lower. People are leaning on that pouch, like they're a Michelle, Michelle Fyfer and the fabulous bigger boys. Good reference here. Okay, so, um, Wait, did you say good reference here? Like it came from the audience? Because you pointed out there like,

that's where this came from. Nailed it, zoops. I also will say this, a doctor to touch near the scar without any gloves on worries me. She should have had a glove on. Okay, there is so much indiscriminate face touching in that scene that I was like, never, do not, because I also felt like she was not prepared to be handled that much. There was everybody was like, I was like, no, I don't want any part

of that much face touching. So now are we to believe that a woman who has been making daily videos for Christmas since 13 has never touched Holly before? I also, I'm gonna ask a question that I know I'm not supposed to ask, how old is she? Do we think? How old is she now?

Well, that's a good question. Started at 13, is this 20 years in? Is she 33? I mean, I'll find out her real age. Well, that doesn't matter. Okay. I, in the, It's not good.

I will say this. I will say this. I will say this. The bad boy skater is at least 33, 34. That's what they established me as. He goes, I'm 29. He's like, you've been 29 for five years. So let's just say, he's in his mid 30s.

Mid 30s. My guess is she's late 20s early 30s. I would agree. Okay, so she's been doing this for 20 years before the internet. Okay. Okay. She's been publicly Christmas famous and Christmas

I think she was like when you were on to a well calm coming to my chat Circuit and I will send you a JPEG that will take four to seven minutes to download At that point regarding the internet she she's basically 13 on message boards. They're like, Christmas, right? And creeps are like, right. The first mission impossible movie came out in 2000, and Ethan Hunt is barely able to navigate on computers. No wonder she's so sexually shut down.

She was exposed to the internet at 13. And it destroyed her. Well, it is true because at one point she says, I linked my follower account to my phone so I can check on it. It's like, well. The alarm, you mean that goes off? It's on your phone.

Wait, wait, wait. It's on your phone. You didn't link it. It's there. That speaker is powerful. That is like a tugboat fog horn that goes off for her follower alarm. Oh my God. What an indictment of influencer culture.

What an indictment of doctor culture. This is a movie where a Christmas tree falls on a man. And then a giant section of the movie is cut out where we reveal that he's now naked in a bed, his arms and his sling. He had been in the hospital. We missed all of that. Wait, can I back up for another second? I want to be very clear because everything you just said is true Paul, but you've skipped

over the fact that this guy had amnesia. I was there in character. In the structure of the movie, this character gets amnesia at exactly the time where the rest of the movie should have been. And my guess is you're gonna tell me it was, oh, it's not, okay. A movie in which his hatred for Christmas

and everything else goes away, he becomes a Christmas lover with her only to then be revealed that he was a Grinch later or whatever, but instead in the very same scene, he's like, I don't remember it. I don't remember Christmas. I don't remember you, but you know what? I hate Christmas.

I hate you. Oh, wait, I'm me again. I'm the bad boy of Baltimore. Oh. But why? That happened once. Oh wait, I'm me again. I'm the bad boy of Baltimore. Oh. But why? That happened one scene. He has amnesia for one scene.

One monologue, I would argue a monologue. I've not even had a phone call. He changes it. Like now that's a monologue that you should do for some sort of acting class or something. That's the range. Who am I? What am I?

Oh, I remember. Okay, I'm back. Fuck you. Yeah, I mean, what a fucking row. I write that. Why even right? What's the rest of my life? I'd be like, I had amnesia. I had amnesia. And why did you see thing happening? Me two days ago, I had amnesia. And he has a shirt off. Always, always, after the food fight, he's got his shirt off.

This guy, I don't understand. He's like, he's 53 and has his shirt off and I don't, I don't understand any of it. How did this get me? How did this get me? The one thing I liked about this movie is it posits a world in which a model in her late 60s early 70s working all the time.

Yes. Oh! Refers to her time. Refers to herself in the third person. I love Beeshoe. I loved Beeshoe. Booked and blessed. She is, she stays employed out there.

She is here there and everywhere. I'm like, wow. In my life. It's wonderful. In my head can't it be you, fucks his dad. I love that. By the way, like they walk in on them just like knuckle deep. I would love it.

It's I on, baby. I don't want to slight any actors in this movie besides one. I don't want to slight any actors in this movie, but I will say this. The reveal of his dad felt like it should have been someone we go, oh Kenny Rogers, or Luke Perry, like some, oh, sorry, I cut that out, I wasn't training. Whoa, whoa, whoa, we can't say Luke Perry just because he's passed away.

The audience very upset at the head. I was watching, they go, we can't even. We can't even. I'll be like Kenny Rogers or like are like, Joey Fattone? So Luke Perry? I'll take the hit Minneapolis. I'll take the hit. But he's one of our great

and I'm not afraid of your disapproval. But I mean, and I feel like they tried, but it was like, I wanted that guy. I wanted Don Johnson. I wanted Don Johnson. Yeah, and I thought it was him for a split second. I was really excited. I was looking like, who is it?

It was Don Johnson. It was Don Johnson. They were like, hey, we can't get Don, but left that at the door. My friend has a guy called non-Johnson. We hire him for Miami Vice Parties. But you got to take the tubs as well. You got to take Crockett and tubs. I don't know.

I don't trust a character. I don't trust a human being. Or a character whose only vice is hot cocoa. What's that a vice? She keeps saying, I'm going to need a lot more cocoa. Like, this is just too much. I don't thank God for my cocoa. And then when she gets slipped booze, she's like, that's not cocoa. I was like, she is basically buddy the elf. She is either a lunatic, a true innocent,

or there's a body switch that happens where a 12 year old girl is put in the body of this 30 something year old woman. Because all of her choices are stone-culping in it. that happens where a 12 year old girl is put in the body of this 30 something year old woman, because all of her choices are stone-coping in it. But we are talking about this. Don't they make sense for like a 12 year old never been kissed, obsessed with Christmas, obsessed with a hot dog?

I don't understand. So let's just get into, let's give some space, as one of our audience members said last night, let's give some space to her childhood trauma. Well, that's what I was going to say. That really... Yeah, because I think that's where it all stems from. And it's...

She's very stunted at that point. Yeah, the movie seems to suggest that her mother spent one day with her a year. And that was Christmas Day. And that it was publicly known that news host says, you're with your mother today, but we normally only see you on Christmas. So even on the one day, the press is there. Yeah. And it's so crazy because I did sympathize with Ginger Holiday because from her mom's point of you, her mom's like, yeah, we dealt with it in therapy. Like, how many times are we going to go over this?

It's like, well, lady, you didn't, you, if you only spent one day with her a year, you were never with her. As far as I'm concerned. You weren't a parent, so I'm sorry if she's wrestling with this. But is that be you money to buy that house or is it ginger holiday? No, that's 20 million subscribers. I think that's ginger holiday. I think that's glitz and cash. that's glitz and cast those are glitz and

Wow Glitz and bucks we got to spend these zoom But here's what I'll say The mom feels more grounded than ginger because the mom's like You like she's like the mom's like I would to do, like the mom seems a little bit more. But Paul, if you had a parent who only spent one day with you a year, and then decided to come back into your life and they were like, well,

you're not opening up to me. It's like, well, yeah, you're not my parent. Yes, well, were you providing? We, what? He said what she provided for. Yes, she was. She went to the best schools. The best camera equipment.

The best schools to become an influencer. Best nannies. Best Kensington's. But this is what I mean to your point, June, what's so weird about this movie is on some level? It's like what you said Jason It's like a 12 year old. I like Coco. I don't like boys and then on the other level. It's like I have dark trauma And then the other guy meets and goes yeah my kid went deaf because I couldn't pay for a surgery You're like oh Well, he's, I mean, this guy,

this guy is on the verge of losing everything. For his character, everything is paramount because it's all slipping away from him. Well, but here's the thing about that surgery. And obviously, there's major problems with their health care system. Don't get me wrong. But I am like, bad way of Baltimore, what research did you do? Because I do believe that

there were services that could have gotten your child. Did you do any research into this? I did have an issue with it because it was like he had the choice to let her hear. Or just like, didn't make the payment. And it was like, it was like, I was like a car getting repossessed. And I felt like, I don't know if that... Like that is Cabe, I think, would have stepped. I just felt like there are,

and I'm not saying they're great, but there are some, some safety nets there for Noah. And I just didn't quite buy that he would go to... Couldn't to charge it And pay it off like a school loan He didn't go to high school though. He doesn't have a college loan so he's got room for a loan How about how about where's Noah's mom? Where's Noah's mom?

Where's your dad? What's your mom? Where's your dad? What's going on? The dance mom took that budget. I wanted to know, I wanted to know because I couldn't make his retails of that. What also was the, hold on, what was the number when she keeps saying her meditation? Which is not a meditation. What was the number? One to get married, two blah, blah,

blah, and three to bring joy to the world. Like that shit that she keeps playing over in her mind feels to me like something a serial killer says before they collect another trophy. No, I mean, I did feel that way. That's what's so creepy about this movie. And when Kensington is asked to be in the family picture at the end, I was very uncomfortable with that. And I was also just like, I think bad things have happened

to Kensington in this home. And yeah. We may get out of there. We get out of this Kensington. Women have been harmed here. And yeah, it's not right. I mean, I also want to just like, as you're talking about bad things going on,

I know it's a throwaway joke. And there are some jokes in this movie. This movie makes a straight up Helen Keller joke like with no spin. It was like, no, no, that's a Helen Keller joke, with no spin. It was like, no, no, that's a Helen Keller joke. Yeah, yeah. You have a good relationship with your iPad. Like Helen Keller has it with her iPad, right?

I was like, what? I haven't heard a Helen Keller joke told sincerely by an adult. The way this movie takes on disability is any like visible differences. It's just absolutely horrifying. The way she's treated by the world and entreats herself for her facial,

whatever that is, was so horrifying to me. And then the way, the collectively as a community, they shame Derek's port stain I'm like what's happening? Crazy. Crazy. And when we're presented with Noah who's a deaf child and signing I was like, oh okay. And then she is like she's kind of like oh okay.

Oh that's interesting. Right but she just talks to him. Yeah she just talks to him and that's it and then and he's kind of like oh my god that's great. He's like actually this is my son and she's talks to him. Yeah, she just talks to him, and that's it. And then, and he's kind of like, oh my God, that's great. And he's like, actually, this is my son. And she's like, oh, okay. And then, what's the little girl's name? Francesca. Francesca.

Francesca comes over. Little blonde girl, healthy blonde girl. And she's like, oh my God! Ginger flips out over the little blonde girl. Like, being as inter- Like, it seemed to cast a light on everything that was very dark. I know. I know. Like being as into her. I know. Like it seemed to cast a light on everything that was very dark. Well, and then this is the other moment that I was going to say that struck me as dark,

and maybe I'm reading into it, but when the agent tries to trap our character from the open marriage movie and our bad boy skater and they put him in the bathroom. The bad girl, she says, why are there no mirrors in here? And then I looked and I was like, it is a bathroom and there are no mirrors. What's going on? And that was the creepiest moment because you know that's a real room in a real house that they were shooting in and that's an improvised line. Yes, it was to say help help something something's wrong.

Okay, so I thought that I thought in that moment that that Ginger had taken down all the mirrors in the house like Phantom of the Opera style. Right, she didn't want to see herself. I love it. I love that. Yes. I hope that gets that. I get that.

But I don't know. I feel like there's something weird because she's also in mirrors and other parts in the house. She's in other mirrors. She's on camera. She's fucking making, by the way, she's making videos and a lot of them. And all she's doing is covering this part. She made, she doesn't, that's the other thing.

She never stops, she stops her two weeks. It's not Beauty and the Beast. I agree. I agree, it's not Beauty and the Beast. It's Beast and the Bad Boy of Baltimore. My favorite, my favorite scene is when they're doing the video where they're doing the video where they're decorating the tree and I love these movies because they try and

establish the absolute maximum of masculinity is she's decorating the tree and he's just chilling with a basketball. He's not shooting because he's not a hoop. He's just putting it up and it falls down. Because he's a skateboarder. Yeah, because he's like, he's a bad boy and he hates crazy. Why doesn't he just skateboard in the fucking house? That would be cool. Hey, I love skateboarding on marble.

I don't know, I got nothing to do. What am I doing? I wanted to play with this, okay. I guess it was also like, God forbid if anybody ever tosses me a ball in a movie. I was also like, my brother, you are a dad. You don't get to hate Christmas. Like you have a child a young child

Is he a deadbeat dad? Well, I don't know he I think he might be Because I feel like it sounds like he was and now he has done the right thing and is Re-engaging in his son's life. That's we don't know his ex. We don't know his mother Well, my question was my question was is he married? that's what we don't know his ex, we don't know his mother. Well my question was, is he married? Is he married and this setup is, again this setup, we haven't talked about the plot of the movie at all. I'm only now realizing, we've been here for four hours,

four hours, and we have not talked about the plot of the movie at all. So the plot of the movie is both of their influencer numbers are going down. And so their agent who they share creates a fake PR stunt relationship that they're going to be into boost their numbers. They hate each other, they agree to do this. And in the doing of it, they both to do this, and in the doing of it they both succeed,

fail, and fall in love. But it is meant to be a fake relationship, such that I was like, oh, the reveal that he had a child, I was like, oh great, show me that he has a family. So this is all just a complete fabrication for him, that he, because I love the reality of he needs the money. He is struggling, because he is 62 years old, and he's still trying to shred at the skate park. And I don't even, I mean, we didn't even touch on it. I don't know what's up, but this is like, I don't think so. My guy. His cameraman was the most upsetting part.

His cameraman was clearly like a cameraman past his prime. Like he looked like he was just trying to be like, hey, I still got it. No. Like he, it was really upsetting. I will say this though, the kid. Noah? Noah.

The kid. The kid. It's weird to me and I feel like it wasn't really dealt with that he offered up Noah to be like a big brother. In this video? Well, no, doesn't he offer him up to be like a big brother big sister or thing? He offered Francesca. Oh, Francesca. So wait, so that's on his kid. I thought Francesca's his kid. No, no, watch this movie, Paul. Sorry. You didn't notice that he was signing with Noah. Oh, okay.

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It's better that way. I, I, I believe that I know all of these relationships. When you said no and Francesca in the beginning, I genuinely was like, oh no, June watch the wrong movie. I was, because I was like checking the camera. There are no names. No, the names that I know. I'm pretty sure it's bow and ginger.

I was like, uh-oh, uh-oh, uh-oh, uh-oh. Noah and Francesca? What has happened? Oh, my gosh. Well, maybe the audience watched it better than I did. Let's go out here and talk on the call. Huge mistake. Aren't you name your question?

Andrew, and did you notice that when they brought out the packet that had a terrible drawing, a child's drawing of a woman in a wedding dress, and she's like, my dream wedding dress. Yes. I laughed so hard at those for eyes. It was like a stick figure woman with a triangle on top of her. It was like someone's kids did it and they're like put it in the movie. I will also say that when she stumbles across the idea to dress as Rudolph, I was like, you've been doing this that long and you never got to Rudolph?

Like Rudolph is a- But also Paul, I found it so wild that the movie switched gears and now we're heading toward like a third act that is ending in a wedding and not the gala. We never got to see the gala, we never see the costume, we don't even see the costume getting made. That was infuriating. Okay. This movie shockingly let me down.

Me too. It's so crazy to say that I was like unsatisfied. Like, it left me wanting. Oh, it's so rare. For the podcast to be watching something and be so close and be like, you're breaking my heart movie. Ooh, I'm not on your side. Hi.

What's your name? Matt, what's your question? So do you think she was actually building foster homes or some sort of Christmas cult compound with this money and raising these kids as her followers? Wouldn't that be great if it was some sort of follower farm or something like that? I will say that I was disturbed in the beginning of the movie when it said it took place in

Clearwater, Florida. What? Yeah. Oh, I didn't catch that. No, I was just joking. Oh, oh. Because I was going to say the movie makes so much sense now. Then, in fact, everybody's acting normal.

I'm in the balcony. Oh, God, be careful. All right, what's your name and your question? I'm Matt, so most of Kensington's time in the film seems like she's pointing out how crazy everyone else is. Do you think she's supposed to be sort of a stand-in for the rational audience and all these watching these crazy people? That's an interesting point of view.

I just want to know, is Kensington employed there? Is she on the payroll? Because she's in a number of videos it seemed. Can I say how? She definitely lives there. How happy I am that this, and she only wears one. Which tells tells us do you know what that tells us she worked one day Can Zit didn't work one day that was her outfit she worked one day, but listen they changed your lipstick a few times Here's the thing shirt., here's the same.

And this is why I love you, Minneapolis, because you guys, and we're all on the same page, we're all only obsessed with Kensington in this movie. Oh, 80% of my notes are like, what is Kensington think of this? Why is Kensington allowing this to happen? Okay, your name and your question. I'm Audrey and I am wondering why when a bow recognized fuzhu from hanging on his father's wall, his father did not recognize fuzhu. Such a great, I think his dad was playing it cool, but they definitely fuck. Be sure the dad forced sure fuck and I bet that's the sequel.

And honestly I would watch it if it was on Pornhub. Okay, up to your balcony. Do you put those porn hub, do porn hub originals? They air all their originals on Ion. OK, I'll get to both of you. Here we go. You go first. Here we go.

Oh, your name, your friend. I'm Samantha. We haven't talked about Howard taking out the photo of himself as a young skateboarder yet. Oh, yeah. His dad loved it. Great moment. Well, it's not just that he takes it out.

It's presented as a gift. As if it's a picture of bow as a boy that the father has had, like I'm connected. I kept, what? OK, why is everybody screaming at me? It's a picture of the dad as a kid, skating. I know. That's what he said.

I know. Are you what he said. I know. Are you saying that? He said it. He said it's not as if it's the, yeah. No, what I'm saying is, it would be more meaningful to bow if his dad had a picture of bow as a child. Yes, skateboarding.

If I bow, I would be like, you had a picture of me skateboarding this whole time. I don't remember skating this young, is would be like, you had a picture of me skateboarding this whole time. I don't remember skating this young, is what bow says, feeling for the first time connected to his dad. Is that? That's not you.

That's me. This story, your story is about me, me on a skateboard, me, me, me, me. So don't yell at me, me, me, me, up. You know what? I was on board with you guys earlier. Then you turned against me just like Bo's dad. All right, I got another question up here.

Your name and your question. Ben Cannon. Thank you for your full name. You're welcome. Ben Cannon. Great voice. Ben Cannon. Great name.

Food days, 9 p.m. CBS. Last week on Ben Cannon. Great voice. Ben Cannon. Great name. For days 9 p.m. CBS. Last week on Ben Cannon. Thank you. Previously on Ben Cannon. Ben Cannon. You gotta write mystery books. Thank you. I can try.

A Ben Cannon mystery. So I looked up this movie to try to watch it and on Just Watch and IMDB it immediately suggested a Snow White Christmas, which I assumed was connected. But then as soon as I saw the asylum in the opening credits, I put together that this movie seems to be the snakes on a train or trans-morphers to a Snow White Christmas, which came out the previous year.

Oh, interesting, okay, because I noticed asylum as well. It's written by the people who wrote Sharknado and things like that, but it seemed like from their social media posts that they were transitioning away from Schlock and going into like, Ernest Schlock. Like, that was like, we understand it Schlock. Now we're doing like, Ernest Schlock. So that's my favorite of the Ernest movies. Now, it is interesting that you said that you found Snow White Christmas because when I typed in Beauty and the Beast Christmas, I only found the Disney Beauty and the Beast Christmas. It seems like it would be harder to find Snow White

to Beauty and the Beast. It's like, that's like AI going, I think you meant this thing, but yeah, so asylum is behind this. All right. Yeah, and that movie, also bad. I watched Beauty and the Beast Christmas four times to try to find some meaning in it.

Okay, Ben. Ben Cannon, can I talk to you for a second, just you. Everybody else shut up. Ben, don't do that. Your time is valuable. Your time is valuable. Spend it doing anything else. Did you find any meaning after four times? So I then just interviewed Ben Cannon?

Well, I feel like- Can we get back to that one? Is this a one hour, are we doing a last look with Ben Cannon? I feel like he's leading to something but I didn't let him get it out yet. So hold on. So then I watched a Snow White Christmas.

The only real... Ben, respect yourself. Ben, respect yourself. The only real connections to be found were that early on in both movies, a character breaks a beloved childhood Christmas ornament as a way of establishing character. And also, both directors went on to make to-be original films.

The director of Snow White Christmas. What? There's a lot of info, but I don't think any of this relevant. This is too much, it's taking up too much space in your wardrobe. What's happening between you and Ben? Do you not feel you can walk away? You know, I feel like he gave it four times. I guess I gotta go, I gotta go. I will say Paul is like,

it's like kind of like, wielding, I feel like Ben is sucking the energy or life force out of Paul. Are you an energy vampire, Ben Cannon? I think, I do think. I have seen this by the way with Paul, where there's men who have a certain deepness in their voice, and Paul gets immediately fascinated by them.

Oh, I just watched that happen. What's that? Are you kidding? We're all susceptible to a centaurian alpha, like Ben Cannon. We can't not. That's the t-shirt! Centaurian alpha Ben Cannon! Or at least somebody will do it as a bootleg. Okay,, your name and your question. Hey, I'm Danny. Two things first just shout out to Willem, because he did amazing.

And then two, to get to the beauty and the beast of it all, is bow a masculine version of bell to be beauty from beauty and the beast. Now that's what I was looking for from Ben Cannon. But, but, yeah. Now that's interesting. Ben Cannon sang his siren song, Paul, and you just couldn't.

Oh, yes. If Ben Cannon started talking right now, Paul would levitate, like a loony tune, cartoon smelling a Christmas ham, and go all the way across to Ben Cannon's voice. Ben Cannon, we're gonna need you to do ad reads for how did this get made. I wanna hear you say,

I wanna hear you say, I wanna hear you say, bonobos. Okay, your name your question. Tyler, I don't have Ben Cannon's register, but We know Tyler hey Ginger is definitely the beast she's been quote horribly disfigured She seems to be stuck in her Castle in her castle her

Friend slash servant slash whatever is stucking her one form of that one shirt. Wait, are you saying, are you saying that Kensington is Mrs. Potts? Sure, yeah. Yes. I like it. I like this. All right, so you did away in there. I was coming to come to you, then I pulled away.

I'm going to come back to you. Let's see if you can. All right, what you did away in there. I was coming to come to you, then I pulled away. I'm going to come back to you. Let's see if we can. All right, what do you got? My name's Travis. Can we discuss Ben's relative strength seen to scene for a moment? I like this question. I like this question.

To me, Ben can it. Sorry. Ben? I think we all know he's ripped. He thinks Ben can and is ripped? I apologize. Bo. Ben can and getting a lot of tracks in this show.

Anybody know who Ben can and is? They keep saying him on the phone. Who's Ben can? So when Bo and the Halloween influencer are trapped in the bathroom, they have to trade so that he is leaping off of her back to reach the ceiling access to the house. But then, in the next scene that we see him, he capped an America style jumps from a balcony And lands in a small mo action pose ready to attack his agent. Yes.

And it doesn't seem to line up. Oh no, yet a Christmas tree falling at a slow pace. Yes. You see an image. I would say no greater than 7 feet tall, knocks them out and puts them in a sling. Literally, I'm Nisha. Yes.

Well, cave in mind. OK, and I think this is tough, because yes. He's knocked unconscious by the tree. He gets to amnesia. He jumps off a balcony and super hero lands. The guy is especially strong for someone who's like 73 years old, and still skateboarding. My favorite thing about the beginning skateboard sequence too

with the bad boy from Baltimore is that we never see him skateboard. We never see him on that thing doing anything. We have to open it. It's almost as if the actor himself can't skateboard. It's almost as if that could be a problem. Okay. Obviously there's a lot to say about a lot. But you know what? There's some people out there that just want to give this movie some love. Some people that have a different opinion. It is now time for second opinions.

Paul, what do the people say when you look at Amazon? Critics might try to dissuade, but they are completely wrong second dog. Oh, opinion. One second, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh Merry Christmas. Feel it. So good opinion. It's time for second. Opinion. This movie, it was the best. I gave it a five star review on Amazon.com. Sec. And oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,

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because I'm pretty sure this movie came out in like 2003. Okay. According to IMDB, they were in pre-production, 9519, September 519. They were in post-production, November 6, 2019. And the movie was released December 15, 2019.

So from pre-to release September. Well those dates, those numbers make sense. Wow. So that is a quick turnaround, a very quick turnaround. I think the quickest turnaround in the history of film is Star Trek First Contact. So that's true. But so that might have beaten it. Okay.

K Hickey. K Hickey. Right. Almost nearly perfect in each and every way. And I do hope it remains so. Five stars. I mean. The title. Five stars. The title, just right. Is she afraid it's gonna be re-edited?

I don't know. I hope it remains. I hope they don't re-edit this boot. Like they're gonna release the Snyder Cup? Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Honestly, release the Snyder Cup of Beauty and the Beast Christmas.

Make this four hours long and make it make sense. I need more Kensington, Marvin the Martian. The middle two hours are just him having amnesia. Then we get to this one by Wolfy Watches. Wolfy Watches. Wolfy Watches writes, I can't believe Joaquin Riverdale and parish teen wolf are in this movie. Him doing dirty talk with Christmas puns got me feeling some sort of way.

Thanking Santa for his shirtless scene, the fact they aren't milking all these social media moments is mind-boggling. Him shirtless in the bed injured would be great for a post or her getting injured could have been milked for so much sympathy and They could have done a partnership with some sort of organization about allergies and such could have done a partnership with some sort of organization about allergies and such. So this person thinks this is a documentary or a reality show? That note of these actors should have been putting up these posts.

I'm sorry. I think so. There are a lot of laugh out loud funny moments like him nearly dying from the tree or the food fight. Okay, but where is my bad boy skateboarder that will never wear dorky matching Christmas theme outfits? Seriously, having so many shirtless scenes, was that in his contract?

I don't care, it's working for me. Okay, wow. I know I have a couple of questions. Is someone in this movie named Joaquin Riverdale? Well, I believe that one of these people is from Riverdale and the other one is from Riverdale. Is one of these people from Riverdale? Now, is that why people reacted to the Luke Perry

mention? Because he was also in Riverdale? No, I think they were just reacting by the time. Is the main actor bow from Riverdale? It's the manager. The manager is from Riverdale. The man who was from Teen Wolf? Bow. Bow is from Teen Wolf.

Minneapolis. Watch better shows. It's so funny that this woman was like so The woman was so horny for this movie because I was so turned off by everything I was seeing. Even the fact that his cast was a Christmas sling, I was like, no. And then the way they built to this scene where they're about to kiss, and he's in a Christmas onesie, I was like, this is sickening. And the horny is kiss is him. If her first kiss is with a grown man in a Christmas onesie.

And though, like what has gotten them all horny? Like what they're the metrics that they're talking about for their engagement on the channels are what's getting them like worked up like that first scene they're talking about like influence or metrics and that's what's getting them all like hard and wet. Just so you know the review is not over. What? So I'll pick it up from I don't care it's working for me. William, drag queen, efficient, and super-year landing off a second story balcony.

Then a candy cane fight, everyone falling into a pool, another shirtless scene, and so much more. This is my favorite Ion Christmas movie. Hallmark Hotness 5 stars. Interesting. So are they suggesting that what makes Ion movies different from Hallmark or perhaps lifetime is the amount of like shirtlessness and like objectification that's going on? I guess. I mean, maybe they're a little bit more sexy but it didn't seem nice. They say at the wedding someone says can you believe every influencer in the world is at this thing they cut to the wedding and I'm not kidding I counted

there are 18 people there. Not only that I wish that was every influencer in the world and we could blow that location up. I will say that. The aisle that she walks down is lined with toilet paper. There's no other way to describe what's on the ground. I was so deeply upset about the wedding. It felt like a movie that was built on, here are cameras. Here's a bunch of random stuff from the trash.

Make a movie. I don't know. Jyn, what do you think? Oh gosh, this put me in a bad mood. I was irritable after it. I was angry about this one. I think it's also because I've watched two bad Christmas movies in a row. It's something to be seen.

It is absolutely outrageous, but I don't think I can recommend it. Okay. I like Christmas movie. There is no bad Christmas movie to me. Even this. Wow. They're even this. I can sit back.

I feel like I did it. Yes. This is like that is. Yes. This isn't a Christmas movie. By the way, this movie does not end on Christmas. This movie is only about craving, commercialism, and capitalism. The theme of the movie is making as much money as is humanly possible.

When they cut to one year later and it's them, it's all about them, again, Korean favor and wealth amongst their followers. This movie isn't about the Christmas spirit. You know how it could be? If at the end, they're like not online. Okay, well, I wanna say two things. You don't have to applaud for my rant.

I wanna. You didn't applaud immediately, which means you don't agree. Minneapolis entire audience of influencers. I do want to say two things to you. First of all, the original title of this film, social engagement. Better title, to be honest, makes more sense. Also, before we end the show, I don't know.

Before the show started, we showed you this animation of Drop Dead Fred, right? And I don't know if you know this, well, I think you guys know it. Drop Dead Fred was shot here in Minneapolis. I will say I did not know that. The entire house where it was shot, you can see the house up here.

That's the house, that's the tree, right? It's where Fred got run over by the truck. You see his feet here, right? Remember that? There it is. And so because Drop Dead Fred is our guiding star, I made a pilgrimage today. Boom. That's where you went. What?

Oh my God. I went to the Drop Dead Fred House. That's where you went today. I knew you were somewhere. Sanity! I had to visit the mega bitch. You know what? I visited the mega bitch's house. You know what?

It's a total team sanity move to go to the house. June and I, team Fred, we spent the day with Fred in our imaginations. That's right. We didn't have to go out and walk to a house. I hope you went up to the door and was like, hi. They were not home. Team Sanity. They were. Did you try? I looked around. I was a little nervous because it's a very, what is that? It's a very residential block and I had an Uber drop me off in the middle of the block, and I was trying to take pictures in front of this house, and I saw the UPS guy look at

me weird. I saw some guy come out of this house, look at me weird. They were not home. I was going to peek in the back to see if that little area was so obvious. I knew you went somewhere. So just to set the scene, we were in the hotel room, and I was waiting for an important call from our son who had lost a devastating soccer game, and he was really, really upset about it.

And I said, we have to FaceTime him, Paul. And the next thing I knew, Paul, it was the playoffs, he was upset. Playoffs. I said, we have to talk to him. And then the next thing I, the FaceTime's coming in Pulsegon. I said, where were you? Where did you go?

And he came back and said that he was on a walk. So now I know. Did you, you saw you now? I know. How long was this? 10 minutes away. Oh, OK. 10 minutes away.

Not too far. And did you like leave anything? Did you? Well, I kind of, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you. Team Sanity. In your act first voice, team Sanity. Team Sanity. Team Sanity. Team Sanity, team Sanity, team Sanity. Give it up for Jason Madzougas, June Day and Randfiel.

I am Paul Schier. Thank you so much, Minneapolis. Thank you so much, everybody. Great work, everybody. Eat shit, Minneapolis. How is this going to be? What a show. Thank you to the staff of the Pantaceous Theatre Everybody eat shit Minneapolis What a show thank you to the staff of the Pantaceous Theater our amazing tour manager Beth Thomas and all of you in Minneapolis who made it such a great time

If you've been jonesing to attend one of our live shows and you live in Europe or maybe you've just wanted it Excuse to take a trip Well, I got some good news for you for the the first time ever, how did this get made? Is going on a European tour. We're going to the United Kingdom and Ireland from March 28th to April 3rd. We'll be traveling across the pond to London, Glasgow, Belfast, and Dublin tickets are on sale now at hdtgm.com. And once we select the movies for each show,

you will find those listed there as well. Now, if you want to feel like you are a part of the Beauty and the Beast Christmas show, well, you can because you can get yourself a shirt that was designed live with the audience that night. The shirt design says, Ben Cannon, an Ion original. It is truly one of my favorite new shirts that we've made.

And you can snag that shirt and more at tpubbuck.com slash stores slash HDTGM. Just a reminder that I am in two holiday films right now on Netflix. You can check me out in the family switch a great family holiday movie made my family and my extended family incredibly happy. Also a disturbance in the force, a documentary about the Star Wars holiday special. We talked about the Star Wars holiday special here on the show many years ago. You can watch it on YouTube, but this is a documentary that truly does answer the question, how did this get made? And that is available to purchase on VOD, or you could

just get it as a blu-ray, a disturbance in the force. I think you will really dig it. It's really fun. If you have any corrections or omissions for this episode and you want to, you know, give me a call, tell me about it. We'll go to our discord at discord.gg slash hgtgm or like I said, leave me a voicemail. That's 619 Paul Ask. Then make sure to tune in to next week's looks episode. And I might pick it. If it's good enough, I'll pick it or I'll play it. I'll do something. Anyway, I will share

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Bye for now. you