How Did This Get Made? - Ambulance LIVE! (w/ Roxane Gay)

Episode Date: March 24, 2023

Action movie junkie Roxane Gay (Bad Feminist) joins the HDTGM crew to break down all the BAYHEM in 2022's Ambulance starring Jake Gyllenhaal, Yahya Abdul-Mateen II, Eiza González, and Michael Bay's d...og Nitro. LIVE from Largo in LA, they discuss surgery performed with a hairclip via Facetime, the idiotic green paint ambulance switcheroo, and the Christopher Cross musical interlude. Plus, they ask important questions like, "Does Jake Gyllenhaal's character work at Jay Leno's Garage?" Go to www.hdtgm.com for tour dates, merch, and more.Follow Paul on Letterboxd https://letterboxd.com/paulscheer/HDTGM Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmPaul’s Discord: https://discord.gg/paulscheerCheck out Paul and Rob Huebel live on Twitch (https://www.twitch.tv/friendzone) every Thursday 8-10pm ESTSubscribe to The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael here: listen.earwolf.com/deepdiveSubscribe to Unspooled with Paul and Amy Nicholson here: listen.earwolf.com/unspooledCheck out The Jane Club over at www.janeclub.comCheck out new HDTGM merch over at https://www.teepublic.com/stores/hdtgmWhere to Find Jason, June & Paul:@PaulScheer on Instagram & Twitter@Junediane on IG and @MsJuneDiane on TwitterJason is not on Twitter

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Explosions, drone shots, a big dog, and a very impaled child. Michael Bay is back, baby! We saw ambulance, so you know what that means! Hello, people of Earth! Hello, people of Los Angeles! We are here live at Largo at the Coronet, our home in Los Angeles, and the home of this film, Ambulance or Ambulayance. I don't know how you're supposed to pronounce it, but this movie is Los Angeles.
Starting point is 00:01:33 This is what it's like on a day-in-day-out basis. Vendors in the street being run over constantly. All these confetti vendors, just killed, willy-nilly. This movie came out just a little while ago in 2022, and if you want to know what it's about, if you feel like you want a little refresher, here it is. Robbery, goes bad, escapes an ambulance. That's it. There's a lot more going on, but that's all you need to know is Michael Bay saw heat, was like, how about... I take that 45 minutes and go, I'll double it!
Starting point is 00:02:18 And that's what we did, two hours and 16 minutes. It is a full-on chase film. I think there's maybe about five minutes when they're not in the ambulance, and that is about it. We are rocking. We are rolling. It may be Michael Bay's best movie in years. I loved it. So, spoiler alert there, but we are going to break it down in every conceivable way, and we're going to do that with my co-host.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Please welcome to the stage Mr. Jason Manzukes! What's up jerks? Here we go! A Michael Bay movie that references Isle of Michael Bay movies. Come on, you can't make a movie and talk about the rock and bad boys? Yes, you can! There is a part of me that doesn't even believe that Michael Bay made those movies. He's like, I forgot about those.
Starting point is 00:03:32 So much shit goes on in my life. I heard bad boys is fucking great. That's the thing is, Michael Bay is interested in making movies that acknowledge that his authorship has created things that people in pop culture or people in culture need to talk about. I will say this. Cops being like, let's get out of the car bad boys style. That's what they're saying, so here we go! I'm excited because, you know, we know she loves a plane movie, but does she love an ambulance movie?
Starting point is 00:04:04 Please welcome my other co-host, June Diane Raphael! Hi, June, how are you? I am well, how are you, Paul? Very good. Now, June, we did not watch this movie together. We watched it separately in the same house. Yeah, and on different platforms. Yes, I told you, don't buy it.
Starting point is 00:04:35 It's on Amazon for free, but you did buy it. I did. I already owned it. June, where do you follow on Michael Bay? I mean, I asked that sincerely because I don't know if I know. Yeah, I find his movies to be ridiculous. I mean, I do. I think he does as well.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Yeah. I don't think I've ever watched a Michael Bay movie this closely. Right. With a pen and hand. Yes, with a pen and hand taking copious notes. So this was a different experience, and, you know, I know our guests will have a lot to say about it, but this is a very long movie. It is long.
Starting point is 00:05:18 I guess that's my question, are all of these movies this long? Or not long enough. Bad Boys 2 really pushed the limits. I think that was like 245. Wow. And yeah, they can be long. They can be definitely long. But you know what?
Starting point is 00:05:33 But they feel like they just go by in a blink of an eye. Is that the t-shirt? Michael Bay movies, they may be long, but they go by in a blink of an eye. And it's like out of focus because a drone shot it. Not enough drones. Los Angeles, we are very excited tonight because we have an amazing guest. She is a writer. She's a professor.
Starting point is 00:06:00 She's an editor. She's a social commenter, a podcaster, the author of The New York Times, best-selling essay collection Bad Feminist, a memoir called Hunger. Please welcome Roxanne Gay. Oh, hello. Wow. Let it be known. All right.
Starting point is 00:06:29 Shout out, lesbians. Let it be known. People in the audience stood for Roxanne Gay's introduction. The first time anybody's ever stood at this show. For anyone on this show. But Roxanne, I feel like, you know, we, I've seen you on Twitter. I talk about your love of movies like this. Like this is, this is kind of in your wheelhouse.
Starting point is 00:06:51 To be clear, Roxanne chose this movie. I picked this movie. Yeah, this is all Roxanne. And last night I went to rewatch it and I was going to rent it because I did not know about the Amazon hookup. Amazon Prime. And I already owned it. Both of us.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Yes. We know quality. It is what it is. I love a Michael Bay movie because like the more ridiculous shit he does, like, did you notice that they normally in a movie, they'll put like LAPD on the cars, but they like stenciled police on the cars. And I was just like, I'm going to cry.
Starting point is 00:07:25 This is so amazing. We don't, no affiliation. Just police. Just police. Ambulance. Also CNN, they just cut off one of the final legs. So it was the exact same font, but they turned it to CM. There is so much stuff like that throughout.
Starting point is 00:07:45 I'm sorry, but the details here, the homage to Point Break with the guy that got run over. By the way, I thought that was... Holy shit. I thought that was... I'm sorry, are you talking about Burke and Stocktrend? Yes. And he's missing body parts.
Starting point is 00:08:00 My favorite character of the movie. I was like, oh my God, yes. Point Break was so good. He goes, what'd you do to my legs? Come on. And you could just see his leg at a fucked up angle and a little Burke and Stock hanging from it. And then the guy's like, you should have worn real shoes.
Starting point is 00:08:17 And here's the thing about that sequence. Because at first I was like, I did, when the Burke and Stocks came up, I was thinking to myself, those are dangerous shoes. Especially for crime. To do crime, but also to just be a civilian walking around the world. I've been in Burke and Stocks and I've been unsafe in them. And so, when he died via Burke and Stock... And here's the best...
Starting point is 00:08:41 I was like, this is an important... Inside and you're going to get run over. I was convinced that that guy was Matt Damon. I thought that was Matt Damon doing a character. Wow. Because he looked to me just like, this guy's like, he had a little bit of a Matt Damon look. Yeah, but big guess is that there needs to be a Burke and Stock Trent.
Starting point is 00:08:58 There needs to be in the crew, a guy who's just a complete weirdo, who's wearing Burke and Stocks, who gets crushed. And the other guy comes up and he goes, you crushed him, bro. And he goes, who cares? The driver goes, who cares? And he goes, he was at your wedding. This movie rules. He was at your wedding.
Starting point is 00:09:18 Karma got him like three seconds later. Sure did. He was like blown into bits. It was amazing. And then he was so extra, like Italian man. Oh yeah. He was like, the traffic here is Stugaz. Where's my mama's cannoli?
Starting point is 00:09:35 It's like, oh, this gaba ghoul is getting me crazy. Literally every stereotype you can imagine about a sort of unwashed, extremely arrogant Italian man all put together in a beautiful lasagna. And then shot in the head. Hey, it's gotta be the sauce. Now wait, there was something interesting. Like you do meet all these characters for one time and then they all get killed. It is like the final act of a heist movie is the first act of this film.
Starting point is 00:10:15 But every one of them is distinct. Yes. And I'm heartbroken when each one of, like heartbroken, cried. Okay. I cried multiple times. Jason. I cried multiple times in this movie. What?
Starting point is 00:10:33 Well done, Michael Bay. I will say that I feel like this is a COVID movie. This movie was shot during COVID. And I believe this is Michael Bay going, fuck it, I'll make a low budget movie. And like it has an energy like that. Like you're saying it's like, it was like, well, just put police on it. We don't have time. And do you think that Michael Bay was sent a script and the writer of the script was
Starting point is 00:11:00 like, you know how Michael Bay will do this movie? Is if the characters in the movie who are cool are constantly referencing Michael Bay movies. The movie is like putting Michael Bay is elevating Bay. And part of me is like, he was like, fuck y'all do this. So basically just a little backstory, just to put it in this, in the world. This movie was fast tracked because Michael Bay was going to shoot another movie. And then they were like, no, we can't do it because of COVID.
Starting point is 00:11:31 He's like, what can we do? Let's do something fast. And the fast, fast, fast is the quote. Let's do something fast, fast, fast. So there was a remake. This is a remake, this film. Based on the 2005 Danish feature. Ambulance.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Written and directed by Loratis Munich Peterson. And Michael Bay proudly claims, never watched it. By the way, that's so that he can never be sued. Truly, I think that's probably so he can't be sued. You are giving him so much credit. I mean, why would he be able to sue? He's basing. He's an adaptation.
Starting point is 00:12:08 He shouldn't be sued. I don't think it could be. And a lot of the plot points that don't make sense are things that are stolen or that are from the original film. But he didn't watch it. I'm so sorry, Paul. So he has no context here. What do you think doesn't make sense in this movie?
Starting point is 00:12:22 Well, I want to get, I'll get into that later because I feel like we should bring the audience in to how we meet all of our characters. Because it starts a little bit like Love Actually. We're seeing a lot of, a lot of people. By the way, another top ten. But we open up with this scene of our character, Will, who lays out all of his exposition over a phone.
Starting point is 00:12:44 And I've been on the phone with a lot of people, like, you know, with customer service representatives. And never have they said, I have to take a coffee break and hang up. I didn't know that was part of the question. Oh, but she did say have a nice day. Yeah. Which, classy. The movie does an incredible job of setting up each set of,
Starting point is 00:13:03 the movie has, I'm going to say, conservatively, 56 main characters and sets them all up in a way that I'm like, yep, I'm on board. Well, it's so interesting because like, when I pulled back after watching it or toward the very end, I was like, oh, this is a movie about what happens when you've been put on hold for too long. Like that all of a sudden was like very clear to me.
Starting point is 00:13:28 And I was like, got it. That sets him up. You have so much sympathy for the man who is on hold trying to get healthcare insurance provided for his sick wife. So that when he goes out into the world and becomes a, like a person who is committing horrible crimes, you are still on Will's side so hard. Yes.
Starting point is 00:13:49 But we, you know, the best part is that we don't know why. We just know that she needs experimental surgery. And then it's like in the last half hour, we find out that she has cancer. But what kind doesn't matter? Doesn't matter. Yeah. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:06 This movie's all broad strokes. It's really true because at one point, like before he said she had cancer, I was like, is this a cosmetic surgery? Like we don't, we don't know. The only reason I didn't think it was BBL is because of the $231,000 price. She's having the buckle fat removed from her face.
Starting point is 00:14:28 I don't know. But we, we meet Will and like, and I do think that this idea, like, I like everybody that we meet and we are on the side of the bad guys for the mall. Like there are good guys, but they're the villains in a weird way. Like every time you cut to the, the good guys,
Starting point is 00:14:46 we're not rooting for them. Like we are following the bad guys. Oh, this is a story in which the protagonists are the villains. Yeah. Like, like, I think absolutely. And Will, Yahya Abdul Matini is just a straight up movie star. Yeah. Like he is electric to watch.
Starting point is 00:15:04 In a way that is like, without him, I don't know that the movie works because he is so, you are so with him in a way that he's committing horrible acts all the time. Civilian deaths in this movie must be in the triple digits. Well, but also, but there's like, we got it as one problem.
Starting point is 00:15:21 But consequences for any of them. Zero of it. But what I never, I couldn't understand is that there's so much weight put on the life of a police officer in this movie. And the fact that a life, the life of one police officer is at risk in this ambulance. Although they never seem to like try to stop to get to a hospital or like just see if it's on the way.
Starting point is 00:15:42 But they have killed, they have killed in the past two and a half hours. I would say a hundred cops. And that's it. And 500 civilians. At a certain point it got out way. It got out way. But he's a rookie.
Starting point is 00:15:55 He's only been out of the academy for three weeks. Oh, of course he's just a babe. Can I ask this? So is this guy, this cop, he's a little bit of a creep because, right? Like he's going into like kind of force of flirt with a girl, like a woman who works at the back. And she's at her job and her boss is right there. And this fucking idiot is like,
Starting point is 00:16:17 I, you know, kind of want to ask you out, but I'm too much of a douche to do it on my own. So my friend had to blackmail me into it. And I know that this is your place of work. And I don't want you coming to my place of work to impose your needs on me. And also like, I have a gun. I have a loaded gun. And his uniform.
Starting point is 00:16:39 This motherfucker couldn't even like put on his goddamn sweatpants and go, Oh, it's called gray sweatpants. Jesus Christ. Yeah. I did find that to be a odd way into this character because like his motivation is like, I don't like you. I don't like the thing I think. I think Bay is is is doing a very like delicate dance here because this is the first time anybody's accused Michael Bay first time in history for the man
Starting point is 00:17:11 who's signature style is known as Bay M. True story, but I do think that he he wants us to care about that cops life, but also be okay that will shot him and that he might die. So it's I will give credit to Bay where it's due. And there seems to be they're trying to posit this idea that oh, if the cop dies, then you've killed a cop. So you're going to go away. You're going to get the death penalty or whatever.
Starting point is 00:17:40 That's it. But then they anecdotally just throughout kill multiple cops, a million civilians, and they're like, oh, we're crushing it, bro. Let's listen, let's listen to Christopher Cross and sing along. What? Why? What's happening? When that moment comes up, if you told me, oh, and in the middle of the movie,
Starting point is 00:17:59 the two big characters in the middle of killing screen will use that to listen to like yacht rock to relax. I almost want to play it, but I feel like we'll get to it a little bit. I also want to talk about our our our our paramedic. If you don't mind me just saying, if your wife needs experimental surgery and you need, what does he say, 260 grand or something like that? 231. 231.
Starting point is 00:18:25 Sell. Thank you, Roxanne. Imprints it on me. Oh yeah. A weird number. Sell your Bronco. Here's the thing. You've got a Bronco that is so pristine.
Starting point is 00:18:37 You could you could put it on, bring a trailer right now and it's going to sell for a lot. That's the first. That's my first move. Well, and I love that everybody's introduction scene. Everybody's introduction scene is like he wants to help his wife. We have the EMT saves the impaled that you referenced earlier. Okay. The impaled.
Starting point is 00:19:01 That the paramedic we at first I'm like, wait, what? All right. So they're at a scene of a crime and when they reveal that that child is impaled. And they don't take my breath away. I know. I was like, I was. And then I was like, how? Like, how did it happen?
Starting point is 00:19:19 And then I was like, because it was like, did it? I don't even know what she hit. Yeah. Because it's like, it's like drove through a sculpture, but like it came into the back of the car. That's what happens in a Michael Bay car accident is a is a is a wrought iron fence, 12 foot fence can go inside the car and into a little girl. And I love that she goes, is it still there?
Starting point is 00:19:45 And he doesn't shy away from showing it at all. I have to say this movie was surprisingly graphic in the best possible way. Yeah. Like there was nothing like no amount of blood, gore, viscera was too much. And I respect that. I do. Like thank you, Michael Bay. And I want to say something else about Michael Bay.
Starting point is 00:20:09 And I guess this is a Michael Bay appreciation podcast, but I'm going to say that because there are times where I thought, oh, this movie is like sponsored or funded by the U.S. Army or the LAPD, right? But but and yet it's like, well, there's so much reverence for this vet. And even when he's even when those trauma doctors are talking to him, they call him sir. You know, there's there's so much reverence for him. And yet also it's such an indictment on like health care and our veterans treat veterans. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:20:43 It's like that's the reason for the season. That's why we're on this journey. But you know what? That's also a huge plot hole. I mean, we all know that veterans are treated like shit after being treated like shit in service of their country. But like he doesn't have any benefits. That's what I wanted to drill down on it.
Starting point is 00:21:01 I'm like, this could be the wrong number you've called because I do think and that's what made me think he clearly wasn't calling the VA. She's like, sir, this is this is spectrum. Sir. And I was also like, I didn't order. I didn't order the digital HD package. I don't have 49. Sir, we will give you ESPN.
Starting point is 00:21:22 And then I thought, well, this must be elective. And then the wife just believes him that even though she listened to the phone call, she was right there. She was right there. And then she's like, oh, thank you for being a man. Honestly, I would thank him too for being a man because he is well put together. He's doing fine acting. Girl.
Starting point is 00:21:48 Come on. You heard that man just get turned down. You heard it. You heard it. He literally said, wait, you're hanging up on me. You're going on a coffee break. We didn't hear that. He said it.
Starting point is 00:22:00 I know. But you know what he did though? We get to see her listening. We get to see her listening. But then what happens? I know, but she's literally invested as she did. Just don't yell the shot. She's listening to the bay.
Starting point is 00:22:12 She's right there. By the way, I felt like this movie represents how Michael Bay listens. Right? It's sort of like, of course she didn't understand it. He's on the phone. She's not fucking listening. She's got other things going on. He's like, he doesn't listen to anyone.
Starting point is 00:22:29 Well, I will say that he then, right after that conversation, he does that breathing exercise with her. Then gets called back later on in the movie. And I was like, I think any of us on the stage, if he turned to us and asked us to breathe with him, we would fall into some sort of a fugue state. If he came here, I would be in his thrall immediately. He's so compelling. It's shocking.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Yes. When he goes to visit his idiot brother. Holy shit. That's never explained, ever. We just see these little vignettes in the same style as Armageddon. I'm sorry, but I'll go deep on Michael Bay. You don't even know how deep I can go. Why doesn't he feel like three of the brother's cars?
Starting point is 00:23:18 I was so confused about what was going on here. So, Jake, we'll get into. Yeah, put a pin in him for the moment. He seems to be working at Jay Leno's garage. Or Jerry Seinfeld's. One of the two. But is he the assistant to a very famous person? He guards those cars that are valuable.
Starting point is 00:23:45 Wait, what? Wait. He just guards this rich man's garage. I think Jake Gyllenhaal's legit business is he has a secure garage for famous people's expensive cars that he and his guys watch. And his guys are all the assassin. What do you mean watch? The staff isn't. They're not bright.
Starting point is 00:24:10 Most of them are from season three of Bosch. But then he also... These nerds get it. If you also want to see great L.A. stuff, Bosch, baby. So you're saying that he's essentially a personal assistant to a rich person? No, I don't think those are all a single person's car. Hold on. I'm going to give you a moment when he shows up the Keurig.
Starting point is 00:24:37 He goes, I got my boss to get me one of these. It wasn't like I bought this. He's like, I talked to the boss and he got me a Keurig. And it's not a fancy thing. Not only that. A Keurig is like a hundred and... Maybe. He gives him a coffee.
Starting point is 00:24:55 He gives him a coffee and he goes, good coffee, isn't it? Like they drill down on the Keurig coffee. And he's got an intensive... And he's never had Keurig coffee before. Like stop, stop. That's again what this movie feels like. Michael Bay has never been on hold. Jake Gyllenhaal has never had Keurig coffee.
Starting point is 00:25:14 Like there's just a couple of things. It's like, that's what people do. They love this fucking pods. Like, you know, it's a warp sense of reality. But Jake Gyllenhaal, in my opinion, is doing a Michael Bay impression in this movie. The radical, sharp enthusiasm is all Bay. I wrote down a couple of things that we should know about.
Starting point is 00:25:42 Let me make you a coffee. Let me get you a coffee. Hey, hey, let me get you a coffee. Now, here you go. Isn't this coffee fucking amazing? Isn't this coffee fucking amazing? That's Michael Bay. I think you're right. I wrote down a couple of things that we know about Danny from... or Daniel that we know from what he tells us.
Starting point is 00:26:00 Likes to be called Danny. He's a nice guy. Has herpes. Incredible line. Incredible line. We don't judge. We don't judge. Loves Kashmir. Hates guns. Is nearsighted. And loves Christopher Cross. I'm on board with this guy, ultimately.
Starting point is 00:26:21 And his intro. Everybody's intro. The garage door slowly going up. Well, he's walking in. I mean, everybody gets movie star introductions that are phenomenal. Saving lives. The first time I cried was when the little girl goes, I can be brave. Boom. Boom.
Starting point is 00:26:41 It's like... I want to show this moment. I just want to show this moment. This is the moment where the plan is laid out. Will goes to visit Danny, and it just happens to be on the day that this is happening, right? So, and here... And the camera moves in this...
Starting point is 00:26:59 Not only the day, but the exact time. Yeah, the moments. It seems like if he was like ten minutes late, it would have missed this whole thing. So much so that all the rest of the guys are like, is this the guy? So they already know he's expected. And I know that, you know, it's a podcast
Starting point is 00:27:15 for people who are listening. Imagine listening to this scene and you're on a roller coaster because the shots are insane. I told you downtown, 32 million. I have this wire. Nobody told 32 million. I know, it's a one-off. Fuck up because the feds are vacuuming up paper,
Starting point is 00:27:33 but I need another man. Four inside, one driver. Feds are moving out tonight after hours. We get in there now, it's ours. It's ours, Danny. What's going on? I came to you for a loan. Maybe a small job at the least, not this.
Starting point is 00:27:47 Look, I don't have it. Everything I have is tied up in the score, right? I'm not alone, I need you. I can't do this without Gibson. I can't do it. Is this the guy? I'm not stupid. Neither am I. Dad was a fucking psycho. I know that, you know that, even the FBI knows that. I'm not him.
Starting point is 00:28:03 Look, have I ever gotten you anything that I couldn't get you out of? Anything? No. Yes. The guns are for... Hey, hey, the guns are for... Come on, what do you want me to say? What are we going to do? Oh, please, can we please have something?
Starting point is 00:28:13 Are we going to fake it? No, we have real guns. It's just for protection, you know how it works. We're not cowboys, we're not shooting anything up. Come on, we can do this in our sleep. Daddy, that's wrong! All right! One second!
Starting point is 00:28:27 Look, we've got five minutes, and I need to know what you can do. You're my brother, I love you. I will do anything for you, and all I'm asking is for you to do this one little thing for me. And now you're here, on my doorstep, asking me for help, and what am I giving you? I am giving you the world! That is... And there we go, that's the premise.
Starting point is 00:28:45 How was this not nominated? I mean, as we enter the Oscars, with all of those supposed Oscar films, it's right there, cinema. Come on. I love whatever Jake Gyllenhaal has... I don't even know if he's decided, but he's just... Every performance is like...
Starting point is 00:29:06 He's like, I'm just going for it. Like, I'm going for it in interesting directions, whether it's, you know, a low-budget indie or this. It's like, I feel like he is ready to go. And it's like, and maybe it works, and maybe it doesn't. I'm all in. I like this character. I love it. I love his performance. I love everything he's doing.
Starting point is 00:29:24 My only question is, can I play this part? Put me in as the unhinged brother of a guy who's going, just the low-budget version of this. I can't do this, because this is too big. But let me do Crazy Guy on this level, please. All I'm saying is that Jake Gyllenhaal's acting is so good that when he puts on a mask that obscures all of his face. The eyes are even showing.
Starting point is 00:29:48 It's like, when you look at his eyes, they're like, wow. I didn't even know his eyes were that big. This is... Wait, June, are you seeing this? Like, that's a real still from the film. Those are prosthetic eyes. Like, it is next level. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:30:10 We've only talked about four of the 90 characters. Okay, so they're all men, except for our lead lady. To the point where I was like, could one of the trauma doctors be a woman? Like, there are no... The doctors on the golf course? Yes. I was obsessed with everyone,
Starting point is 00:30:35 and everyone's introduction, the FBI agent, and how we met him, which was so wild. Oh, Garadilla... Oh, no, no. The therapy. Yes, yes. In therapy. In therapy, and him saying that he was an environment...
Starting point is 00:30:49 His husband was an environmental lawyer. And so they live at the beach. They live at the beach where all environmental lawyers live. Environmental lawyers go. I was obsessed with it all. He gets a text that just says, massive bank robbery in downtown L.A. Yes.
Starting point is 00:31:06 Like, that text is worse than the text in open marriage. I mean, it's from an unknown number, and it's just like, bam. He's just like, daddy's got to go to work. And I don't even... By the way, this is another part of it. There seems to be three teams working this. It's like, we got LAPD or just regular police.
Starting point is 00:31:29 We have... SIS. SIS. That's Garadilla Hunt's group. And is Garadilla Hunt's group also, they think that they're tracking Brooklyn bank robbers? Because that's why they're outside the bank? That I could not understand.
Starting point is 00:31:42 But they're not Brooklyn bank robbers. They're the L.A. bank robbers. This really scrambled me for a minute, because they're staking out the bank thinking a group of criminals are going to rob that bank that they've been tracking, and it just so happened that Jake Gyllenhaal and his crew roll in instead?
Starting point is 00:31:58 Is that what happened? Yes. No, that's not what happened. It's just that all the guys that got killed are the Brooklyn people, and they came and are helping Jake Gyllenhaal. Oh, so it is a company? It's a team platter.
Starting point is 00:32:10 That makes sense. What's your name? Samantha. Thank you, Samantha. Give it up for Samantha. Yeah. Thank you, Samantha. I will say, this is a movie that I rewound more
Starting point is 00:32:23 than any other Michael Bay movies, because I was like, what did I... I do feel like that is a little hidden. Because all of a sudden, you see these guys get out and it's a throwaway in line. It's like, how the fuck did this happen? It's like, we thought we were trailing Brooklyn guys. Next, dog.
Starting point is 00:32:38 The best part is that throughout the movie, they're just unapologetic. Like, we wait. I want to talk about the fact that they wait. They wait and wait and wait with the big dog, and it's only because of the big dog that they pause the chase, and he's like, oh, no, it's too dangerous.
Starting point is 00:32:57 Now it's too dangerous. Who brought my dog on a car chase? I think Gary's the one. Listen, I want to talk about Nitro if you're referring to Nitro. By the way, just so you know, Nitro is Michael Bay's dog in Roy's. That is Michael Bay's dog.
Starting point is 00:33:13 Oh, this is great. And one of the quotes I have, this is just a great little side quote, the most stressful day on set was when they only had 20 minutes left of sunlight and they had to shove his 217-pound dog into a fiat. Because when that came up,
Starting point is 00:33:35 I was like, what movie is this? Like, a little fiat, the giant dog? I was like, is Inspector Clouse so getting out of this? What I love about... We just watched people get like, like, brutally killed. It's like... And then he's got jokes that are like,
Starting point is 00:33:53 oh, we had whatever food last night, so the dog's taking smelly shits. And then like, oh, also 72 pedestrians have been mowed down. I do want to talk about the strategy of waiting on a bank robbery. Because I rewound that part and I went back and tried to understand it a few times.
Starting point is 00:34:17 So they would prefer to have these people rob the bank and put all of those innocent lives at risk. Because why exactly? Because they feel they have a better shot to get them. They have a better shot of getting them with fewer casualties outside. And that's how SIS does it.
Starting point is 00:34:37 Yeah, so they've changed... They've changed... They've changed their strategy. My writing is better than that. They would have used in the past gunning guns blazing but put people in danger and encouraged the guys to take hostages. So they're saying, let them get the money,
Starting point is 00:34:53 let them come out, and then get them on the way out. Heat style. And nobody says... Everybody seems to understand all the movie references of all time, but nobody ever says, we have a heat going on. We've got a Den of Thieves on our hands. I just wrote down this one thing which I forgot.
Starting point is 00:35:09 Oh, Den of Thieves was so good. Roxanne, come on. Come on. We watched that shit. That was so good. It's the best. We need a sequel to that movie. I'm all in. Have you seen Plane? Yeah. Plane was incredible.
Starting point is 00:35:25 And I am really into movies where the title is explicit. Plane. There's no fucking subtext. I'm willing to say... So my wife and I sat down to watch Plane and I was like, do you really think it's just about a Plane? And she was like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:35:41 And then I was like, yeah, it is. It's great. It was a great night. And now that we've done Ambulance, we have to do Plane? We should do a month of transportation theme. Love it. Movies that are about trains, planes,
Starting point is 00:35:57 and ambulances. So I saw Plane in the movie theater and I loved every second of it. Movie of the Year. But I was disappointed in a way because I thought I was going to get the experience from Ambulance. That you got from Plane?
Starting point is 00:36:13 Plane is better. Plane is better? Wait, hold on. I feel like there... Well, you know what it is? It feels like not better, but it's streamlined. Michael Bay is going to...
Starting point is 00:36:29 The drones are going up. They're dive bombing down. We're flying through things. Plane had $20 million. Everything's on screen. It's going to go. Plane's greatest special effect is what?
Starting point is 00:36:45 And Ambulance's greatest special effect is Michael Bay. Every thing is a mayhem that is happening. The static scenes of two people talking, just either exposition, dumping, or whatever, that circular... That camera that is just constantly circulating throughout the...
Starting point is 00:37:01 He loves that camera. I think he probably sleeps with it. Because that camera does so much work in his films. Like Panorama. Oh, he loves diving. It's crazy. Creating momentum where there is none.
Starting point is 00:37:17 He basically... Inside an ambulance, perhaps. It is an insane... I feel like he gets everybody on board to be like, let's do this crazy thing. There's stories about Jake Gyllenhaal's holding a camera, taping it, because there's not enough room in the actual ambulance.
Starting point is 00:37:33 He's like, you're going to shoot this scene. I had a friend who was on Bad Boys 2. And he was just a regular actor, a stuntman. And Michael Bay is like, okay, so we're going to do this chase over the Florida Keys. Just drive. And shoot out the window at the same time. He's like, I've never done anything like that.
Starting point is 00:37:49 He's like, we'll fucking do it. And then they're doing it. And he came over to him and he showed him on. He's like, you look like a wimp. You got to do this for real, man. And he was like, I don't know. He's racing a Humvee, firing out the window.
Starting point is 00:38:05 But he gets people in this zone where Jake is in the real ambulance. He's like, we got 10 minutes. Jake, fire in the air. We're going to get this. And like, Will is driving. It's like everyone is on board. And that energy is in the movie. I am realizing that he named his
Starting point is 00:38:21 like female love interest, Cam. Whoa. Oh. Just saying. Oh, wow. The layers. June. I loved this moment in the film.
Starting point is 00:38:37 And it's like, there's a truck that is carrying plate glass. Incredible. And it seems like the guy decides to run away by running into it. And at the same time, he's shot. So they're like, I felt like there was like, there comes in a moment
Starting point is 00:38:53 where there's so much exploding glass. There's the, because of the the heat style gun fight that's going on. There's so much exploding glass. And I felt like Bay was like, there's not enough. What if there was a glass delivery truck parked in front of the glass
Starting point is 00:39:09 building? I do want to just briefly just go out here for one second and talk about Cam, who we introduced with the kid who's impaled. We watch this emotional scene. You as the audience feel like, oh my God, I've just watched
Starting point is 00:39:25 a six-year-old be impaled by a spike. I can be brave. She passes you know, she... He knows how to get ya. She passes the kid to like emergency services at the hospital.
Starting point is 00:39:41 And then she's like, hey, you want to go get enchiladas? And you're like, am I supposed to like this character? No, I think at the beginning, no. I think at the beginning you're supposed to think... See, it's so weird because I think I have the wrong reaction to her. I think you're right, Jason, that you're... that's her journey, right?
Starting point is 00:39:57 That she's cold and not like connecting with what she's doing, even though she's still connected in the moment, but still cut off after it's over. But to me, I'm like, I don't want my trauma specialist to be stuck on yesterday's news. You know what I mean? Like, I want them
Starting point is 00:40:13 to be fully present with me. Pulling the things that are impaled inside my you know, stomach out with me. Pulling the wrought iron out of my gut. I do. I don't need them to be carrying that with them and litigating past. You know, the challenge is
Starting point is 00:40:29 what you kind of brought up briefly earlier. She's like the only woman in the movie, except for the wife. And Michael Bay hates women. Sure. Ask Megan Fox. She has a lot of really interesting things to say
Starting point is 00:40:45 about Michael Bay. And I'm sure many other actors do, too. And women are just meant to be beautiful and to sort of look bloody and sweaty but sexy. And by the way, even at the end, after she's been through all that, like somebody gave her
Starting point is 00:41:01 a tissue because she looks ready to go, like ready to go out. Oh yeah. After she's been held hostage and been in a 24 hour car chase, held at gunpoint, all of the events of the movie happened to her. She walks away from the crime scene
Starting point is 00:41:17 and she would never be allowed to do. No question. They let her get her bag and leave. She leaves. She goes to the hospital to check on the impaled girl. So why did she only steal one stack of money?
Starting point is 00:41:33 What the fuck is wrong with people? Like girl, take all the money and say that they dropped it somewhere. At this point, you're an EMT and it's a noble profession, but you're making like $50,000 a year. I think she didn't want to fall off the wagon
Starting point is 00:41:49 and get back on that speed. No. That's self-protection. When she drops that she was on speed, again, Michael Bay has limited time for exposition so we got to get it out quick. Yeah, I was addicted to speed. Anyway, pass me that. Wow.
Starting point is 00:42:05 Okay. I like a crackhead doctor. I did too. I was like, this is fascinating. It also just like get back on the drum. And it gave me like, because I agree like, and I feel like a lot of those what's the Scorsese movie?
Starting point is 00:42:21 Bring out the dead? The Nicholas Cage one, right? What's it called? Bringing out the dead. To me, she's in that world of like, fucked up, this is crazy. We're in the juice of this is I do the thing and then I don't care.
Starting point is 00:42:37 And the events of this movie are like, maybe I care, but also give me that speed. Well, I guess there's a difference between like being professional and also like not giving any bit of a shit. It's like, that's a six year old girl is like,
Starting point is 00:42:53 hey, she's going to do okay. It's like, I don't want to hear about it. It's like, all right. Like it just seemed a little too aggressive. It wasn't like, I don't like, you know, but then that set him up to be like, if you're her, how do you continue to show up as your full self? Right. You got to compartmentalize.
Starting point is 00:43:09 You're worried about, yeah, I was actually like, I thought so was the moral of the story then that that's a bad because her her arc is she does care. So then more lives will now be lost. Professional.
Starting point is 00:43:25 Yeah. The movie means she's worse at her job. Correct. Because by the way, she goes into the girl's room and the girl holds her hand and she's like, don't let go. Her response should be, where is your parent? Like she Cam should not be raising
Starting point is 00:43:41 Lindsay, the impaled girl who I'm certain doesn't have a gallbladder anymore. The mom was like, the mom was like, I'm going to go home, do a quick shower. I'll come back in the morning. She'll be okay, right? She'll be alive. All right. So I know, I know we have showers though. And this is something I think about
Starting point is 00:43:57 in almost every movie. And whenever I look at like NBA players hugging the smell in that ambulance as actors and in real life because this guy is bleeding out the entire time. Okay. Zach has for sure shit himself.
Starting point is 00:44:13 Kinds of blood. And they never slip on the floor. Jake and Will and Cam are sweating and then they open this poor dude up. Oh yeah. His spleen explodes.
Starting point is 00:44:29 They use a hair clip as a clamp. And it works. And she, I mean, she takes it from her disgusting dirty hair. Doesn't, you know, like normally in a movie, like when they're doing like fake surgery, like in a restaurant with a pen knife, she'll take some vodka
Starting point is 00:44:45 and pour it on the knife to at least let us know. I know this is gross, but I'm going to sanitize it. And then they take a sip of the alcohol and off we go. She did not even bother to take any rubbing alcohol in the back of this rig to fix her disgusting
Starting point is 00:45:01 hair clip. She puts it in there and then closes him up. And he's fine. And he's coughing by the end of the movie. He's fine. Oh my god, it's just so great.
Starting point is 00:45:17 He's in better shape than everybody else in the movie. He's like, I saw everything. I know what's up. And they're like, my guy, you have a banana clip in your body. And then he's like, you got a scrunchie in your body. Did you have your hand in me? And she's like, oh yeah, I was way in there.
Starting point is 00:45:33 And she said, I'm up in his guts. She said, he's like, he's coming too. He's coming too. I'm up in his guts. What? I mean, there's so many like best parts when he comes to while
Starting point is 00:45:49 they're like doing the banana clip and sort of hand digging for the bullet situation before the spleen explodes. The guy wakes up and he just starts screaming. Of course. I mean, which is the normal reaction. And then Yaya is just like
Starting point is 00:46:05 go to sleep. He punches him. Military triage. That's what they do. He punches him into unconsciousness, which if you remember, he previously has been driving and he says, you got to get up here and drive.
Starting point is 00:46:21 I've been in this situation before. So he knows my value added is if this guy wakes up, I could punch him into unconsciousness. Yes. And then he gets back there and he's like, I don't really know how to do anything but follow direction
Starting point is 00:46:37 and punch guys out. And it worked. Everything is working perfectly. Well, as we tell, oh, sorry, go ahead. No, I was just going to say that just one more thing with the hair clip. It's interesting because in these movies, I did have the thought
Starting point is 00:46:53 at one point like, oh, Michael Bay is going to want her hair down. He's going to want to get her hair down. Oh. And the way he did it. I love this. It's successful.
Starting point is 00:47:09 It was successful. It was also like, wow, could not have imagined that. Oh my God. Could not have imagined that. Thank you. I respect this shit out of this. Because then her hair is down and then she gets to sit.
Starting point is 00:47:25 A few scenes later, she's sitting in the, there's so many of the flares that are going off and sun is setting, but she's sitting in the front seat of the ambulance and her hair and she's so gorgeous and she looks beautiful and I'm like, we wouldn't have had this shot.
Starting point is 00:47:41 Had she not gotten that hair clip out of her hair. Absolutely. The movie is structurally perfect. By the way, it's fully a check-offs gun situation. Yeah. Literally with the cops gun. The gun is on the,
Starting point is 00:47:57 which is such an odd thing because that guy's been on a cold gun. He didn't feel it once. Just like in his back. You feel when there's something hard pressing against your back. This man has been shot in the stomach and he's laying on the glock
Starting point is 00:48:13 while the thing is like, poor man, but we talk about hair. We talk about women. We forgot about my favorite character, the other woman in this film, the control center. Oh, she's wonderful. Who is amazing
Starting point is 00:48:29 and is introduced with... Oh wait, is this the... Is her name Jog? What is it? Zaga. I'm so sorry. I did forget about her. I thought I had a clip. I don't have a clip. I only have this banter
Starting point is 00:48:45 because there is good banter in this movie and this is an example of the banter that you're going to get. Okay, Special Agent Clark with your suspenders and looking like you're 20. 20. No, Toledo. Oh, great. Another tourist.
Starting point is 00:49:01 Okay, can we just skip over the whole I don't know shit and you fought in Vietnam speech? How old do you think I am, man? Look, I can help you here. This is in the bank robbery. It's a hostage situation. Oh, it's far worse than that, sir. The guy who held your paramedic out the back is named Danny Sharp.
Starting point is 00:49:17 Danny's been robbing banks since he was 17. Bonafide Psychotic killed six bank managers, two tellers in the 90s. Well, tremendous. Well, he is causing the shit storm. Oh, wonderful, FBI. We could run a mini-war from in here. Plus, RHD can stagger our assets.
Starting point is 00:49:33 Wade, tell D-Team to get ready. We're going to trap this fucker. All right, yeah, on to this. Don't. That is a mistake. Why? Danny is a different breed. He could have easily killed your cop back there at the bank, but he didn't. All right, he is looking for a way out.
Starting point is 00:49:47 We used to be friends. Boom! Incredible. Now, you didn't put that... The revelation. But then at the very end, he's, like, begging Danny to, like, give himself up.
Starting point is 00:50:03 I can't do anything more for you. I'm like, bitch, you haven't done shit for him the entire movie. But also, what was Danny's plan at the end? Like, when Danny is trying to escape, I'm like, whoa, you were going to hold Cam and just, like, exit the ambulance? Oh, no, he says, I'm going to kill you on live TV,
Starting point is 00:50:19 and then they're going to kill me. That's what this is. Okay, so that was his plan. It was suicide. That's why Will shoots him, because he doesn't want Danny to Will shoot Dan. Okay, I thought he had a bigger plan than that.
Starting point is 00:50:29 Okay, I didn't... Again, I mean... I think that was it. I think he had gotten to a point of just, like... I think he knows these things. Bayhem. Total Bayhem. Yeah. Just, like, it's time to go.
Starting point is 00:50:39 Well, at some point, they have to be like, no one was getting out of this. Yeah. They've got to release Transformers 4, so I guess I'll shoot you, and then they'll shoot me. I mean, Will conservatively is going to jail at least for 30 years, right?
Starting point is 00:50:51 Like, roughly, I mean... Will? Part of an arm bank robbery. Yes, he saved some people. But, yeah, it's like, he's going to do some time. Well, they make a big deal of... of Zack not in the hospital,
Starting point is 00:51:01 not identifying Will as the guy who shot him, even though Will did, and pointing to Danny instead. No, he said... He still was the driver? Sorry, he said Danny... He said, this guy saved my life.
Starting point is 00:51:11 But Will is responsible for, I'm going to say, 200 deaths. It's... It will be a very tricky case to prosecute, because... Listen. But he also did this.
Starting point is 00:51:23 Yeah, but he also killed, like, like a bunch of people just trying to sell tomatoes on the side of the street. Well, one of my favorite parts of the movie was when they do this inexplicable, incomprehensible switcheroo.
Starting point is 00:51:37 Okay. Yes, please. How could we not? I mean, we have to go real deep on this. I need... This is what I need to get. I love this. They should have just ran away
Starting point is 00:51:47 when they were hiding under the overpass. Why didn't they? He'd take the money and go, or, like, what happened? Not, like, paint this ambulance green. Why would they... Also, also,
Starting point is 00:51:57 but you have a situation... I don't cover the tree on top that they're using to identify us. You have a situation where they're like, let's flood the... let's flood the place with look-alike ambulances.
Starting point is 00:52:09 Then they won't know which one we are. Also, paint ours green. Why? Wait, that's when... That's when one tells me the purpose. He has 40, 45 seconds
Starting point is 00:52:21 to paint an entire ambulance. But Paul... And the guy is so dumb that he's painting the glass windshield. But then... But Danny wanted it blue. And oddly, like,
Starting point is 00:52:33 my mind was buying that the green was like, oh, maybe... like, a green screen effect. It wouldn't read it, yeah. That's what I thought. But he wanted it to be blue. But why did he want it to be painted at all? I do not know.
Starting point is 00:52:47 Because the idea is... The whole point is, let's have there be 10 identical ambulances, and they won't know which one we are. And one is sticking out like a ridiculous sort of song.
Starting point is 00:52:59 Oh, no, we've got 10 ambulances. And then one, like, a shoddily painted green one. Paul, you read that list of the things that Jake Gillin... that we know about Danny. Yeah. And I don't think I heard you say
Starting point is 00:53:11 that Danny was a criminology... Oh, right. But he doesn't say that out loud, does he? No, but the other guy... He doesn't say that out loud, but we know... But here's my question. And it did remind me, of course, of the Idaho killer
Starting point is 00:53:23 who is also a criminology... criminology major. But that's a whole other Bollowax. Well, the guy... That's a whole other thing. But here's my question, though, Jason, is he studied...
Starting point is 00:53:37 So it's set up from our FBI agent as though Danny went to school, and I guess grad school? I don't know. Just school. School? Okay.
Starting point is 00:53:51 To learn what police and FBI would do in these scenarios so he could sort of work on this from the inside out so he could really plan. I didn't see any of that. Oh, no? It might not have been a good school.
Starting point is 00:54:09 I'm sorry. June, this movie goes completely according to plan for him. But, like, there's... I love what he's like when he pretends to be the bank manager and is like, hello? I'm like...
Starting point is 00:54:23 Yes. He didn't have to enter that door. Just say, no, we're closed. Sorry, we have a private transaction going. But that was actually... You know what? That was an interesting moment. And again, I'm giving more credit
Starting point is 00:54:37 to Bay than I thought I would. But that was an interesting moment where I was like, wow, what would you do? A cop shows up. Can you just say we're closed? Yes. He tries. I guess... I guess you could.
Starting point is 00:54:53 But it does... But I love that we haven't seen... Like, we go in. I wonder if they shot it and then cut it. But, like, all of the robbery stuff has already happened. Yes. All of the taking over the bank.
Starting point is 00:55:03 Well, no, you got a great moment of the bank manager standing like Howie Mandela and like, let's make a deal. Like, here it is. Like, he just like... He like... And then he goes,
Starting point is 00:55:15 I'll get out of your hair. Yeah. Because I think... That's a man who understands that we are not family with the people we work with. Our job is our job. Is a job.
Starting point is 00:55:25 And our friends and family are our friends and family. I appreciate it. He's like, I'm not dying for this. It's not your money, man. Like, walk away. Get out of here. Very healthy.
Starting point is 00:55:33 Again, I think Bay did that strategically like he did with the cop, which is we don't want these guys that we're going to follow for the rest of the movie that we do need to be on their side to a certain degree.
Starting point is 00:55:45 We don't want to see them really scaring people. There was a weird moment. Like, with Jake Gyllenhaal too, he's a criminology professional or studies that he will constantly reveal himself and he's like, hey, man, he's a marine.
Starting point is 00:56:01 He says that to a man who's still alive that can ID them. They all use real names all the time. Hey, Trent, hey this, even though he has nicknames for people, Mel Gibson and whatever, he doesn't then use them.
Starting point is 00:56:15 He continues to use everyone's real name all the time such that everybody's like, well, who's that? Will? I heard him say Will, okay. Okay, that's his brother. And when they're doing all that detecting with the weird FBI agent and
Starting point is 00:56:31 the young woman who is waiting to go home to her dad's dinner and the guy with the dog, I'm sorry, names are not going to say. No, yeah, these are tough names too. I love how the guy with the dog kept saying stop the car
Starting point is 00:56:47 like an out and fresh air chit chat every five minutes and I'm like you are never going to shut this down if you keep stopping for fresh air. A cup of coffee and like traffic's going to start soon. It's about to be rush hour in LA.
Starting point is 00:57:03 It's weird because it's like they're chasing the ambulance but they have everything at their disposal so they have helicopters. They don't need to be chasing the ambulance. Just put a plan in place and just stop it. Like just sit still. Yeah, you don't need to be mobile.
Starting point is 00:57:19 You don't need to be on its tail. There's no reason to. Now here's one reason why because again, I'm trying to figure out why this ambulance was painted the way it was painted lime green. The ambulance might have been painted lime green because it's the same color as
Starting point is 00:57:35 Ratchet, the Autobot from the Transformers film which is a medical vehicle. Is that true? Yeah. Oh, wow. Again, another connection. Let's go to the audience here and
Starting point is 00:57:51 I want to see if anyone else has thoughts on why that ambulance was painted lime green. Okay, let's see. What's your question? I couldn't figure out. Did they drive Will's wife to the hospital to watch him bleed out? Right, she did show up at the hospital.
Starting point is 00:58:07 I had so many questions about that. Well, the crime scene was the hospital. Oh, yeah. What I thought was fascinating about that was that she didn't put her baby in a car seat which I couldn't help
Starting point is 00:58:23 but notice. But the car seat was there for the money. Well, and then to see the cop run behind her with the car seat was so wild. My assumption is in that sense
Starting point is 00:58:39 kind of like we've got a hostage situation we don't know what's going on maybe if we bring his wife she can talk him down or something like that. I mean, it's also just illegal to not put a baby in a car seat. So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:55 Given all the laws that have been broken I feel like they were probably like let's look the other way. I was shocked that baby wasn't impaled. There was a great I also had this thought I guess she wasn't using the car seat when Cam does put the money
Starting point is 00:59:11 in the car seat. It becomes unusable as a car seat? Yes. And I was like that's why she has to continue to hold this baby because now she's like I gotta hold this baby and this car. It became a burden as a parent because that money was so cumbersome.
Starting point is 00:59:27 She couldn't like sneak it around. But again, another moment where I cried was when she was screaming please help my husband don't let him die I cried during that. Moses Ingram from Obi-Wan Kenobi. Fantastic performance. Every role in this movie is a home run actor.
Starting point is 00:59:43 This movie is fucking great. Thank you Roxanne for making us do this. You're welcome. And I'm just so glad to meet someone else who can appreciate like true cinema. And I love like I don't know if Michael Bay intended it or not but he really makes
Starting point is 00:59:59 the cops look exactly as bad as they are because Will is bleeding out and the guy is like we'll get to him. Will you? I don't know. Like you're literally in front of the hospital and there's cameras everywhere.
Starting point is 01:00:15 I know I was kind of like just move away someone else Will. Right? I'm like okay George Floyd's murderer. But see what you're doing here. Yes. Your name and your question. Pete. Pete. Yes man. Here we go. So we kind of talk about how inept the cops are in this and it feels like
Starting point is 01:00:31 this is the most inept police force ever in an action movie. But I think the one thing we forgot to talk about the green truck and when the guy's getting interviewed that the green truck just rolls slowly in the background while the cops are like have this guy who is also
Starting point is 01:00:47 he has green paint on him and there's just this green truck just going ten miles an hour. And nobody says like oh we should be looking for a green truck because this guy has green paint all over him. The movie fluctuates between people being
Starting point is 01:01:03 hyper-observant like a guy who's just been blown up like oh who's that running. I guess I'll chase him to like literally a bad guy like running next to him. Well the thing that happens that's tough is Jake Gyllenhaal engages like the
Starting point is 01:01:19 cartel guys who come in and boost everything up into insanity with explosive ambulances and the car that has the minigun and all that stuff so everything ratchets up at that point into an insane level of chaos
Starting point is 01:01:35 and that's supposed to kind of saturate the world with chaos and oh it's gonna but no not really everybody's like oh no you pull over okay great okay but what they can't figure out is well now there's like a poorly spray-painted ambulance on the street maybe that's our guys
Starting point is 01:01:53 It couldn't be it just could not be they don't explain why like there's six other ones it's getting enough I mean it just doesn't make sense we're getting a fully different car or just leave walk away get on two motorcycles
Starting point is 01:02:09 with your money and take a leave Zach and Cam behind but is that the Achilles heel of like Jake is that he wants to make sure that he sees the cop get healed I mean is that like it's I don't know is that a motivating factor for him
Starting point is 01:02:25 no but I think it is for Will and that's even more curious because like when they're at the end where Will could basically just walk away because they're in the sort of Kinsaniera dress factory and which one of my favorite parts
Starting point is 01:02:41 like more scenes need to be said and he's like I'm not leaving the cop or you did he mean his brother? I don't want to see him lose their life ever but like if you have to choose between you
Starting point is 01:02:57 a black man who fought for his country and will still get pulled over and maybe killed or a cop who's gonna probably be okay like come on go walk away and run go for it I mean it's eight million dollars Jesus Christ I do love that scene that
Starting point is 01:03:13 follows that too it's like the word like you know it's like that thing where they're trying to create their plan in real time it's like why don't we just go left go left with me we will go left
Starting point is 01:03:29 you want to go right I want to go left maybe we should both go left go left go it's so stepped out it's like it would have been so much cooler if it was like you've gone left I've gone right oh great great great but it makes
Starting point is 01:03:45 poppy and his guys look like fucking idiots after they managed to steal all the ambulances and then build the fucking rodo murder car like robocop 2 which that car was awesome and
Starting point is 01:04:01 I loved about the robocop car and this was that they did have a dummy at the driver and the driver I just wouldn't like to have seen that guy like oh yeah this guy looks real enough they were like we gotta go we gotta go to the myth busters office and steal their guy there
Starting point is 01:04:17 that fake dummy that they're always blowing up Adam Savage is like what do you want from me you let us in on the plot here earlier you told us about the Boston crew and the LA crew so now what is your name and your question Samantha and my question is actually
Starting point is 01:04:33 so the relationship between Anson and Jake John Hall is never really they got drunk do you think there was maybe something more romantic underneath there I love that Samantha you get this movie wow she really does yeah you know what
Starting point is 01:04:49 Samantha I have to say first of all were they sex friends 1000% 1000 1000% because why else would Anson be so deeply invested like yeah don't die you're the best dick of my life
Starting point is 01:05:05 and better than my husband that I'm in counseling with yes and I mean it's no wonder they're in counseling it would have been amazing if the husband was like I don't feel like I'm exciting enough for you or if his complaints in therapy mirrored what Gyllenhaal could have
Starting point is 01:05:21 given him that's a better movie well I mean how could you not how could you not fall in love and if the movie ended with them kissing oh I would have loved that that would have been true romance come on I would have loved that I mean how can you not fall in love
Starting point is 01:05:37 with a man who could get a fire extinguisher white out of cashmere with really no nothing like how much that white goes like he goes from joker to just back to normal just willpower
Starting point is 01:05:53 clean my outfit do you think Gyllenhaal is improvising yes Jason got to be right 1000% and by the way killing it he's doing great but now what now in thinking about this movie as him doing an impression of Michael Bay at all it actually
Starting point is 01:06:09 makes sense it's like yes and he's like yes it's just radical response radical enthusiasm did you see this clip it was on Instagram you know basically
Starting point is 01:06:25 Michael Bay whenever people are like that's too dangerous I won't do it he's like fine I'll do it then and he gets like on her he shoots his own stuff and so there's a scene where that ambulance is coming through and he's on a rig and it's like he's shooting
Starting point is 01:06:41 it and then like jumps off the rig because the ambulance crashes right through the camera like he's like hey we did it I love it I love it oh my god could you imagine what his insurance costs are I wonder
Starting point is 01:06:57 well obviously we have opinions about this movie but there are people out there with well maybe a same opinion honestly because we loved it it is now time for second opinions but the club is bleeding out now Cam is in the back
Starting point is 01:07:13 now let them go and I just can't look in surgery in Michael Bay mode ambulance in downtown Los Angeles
Starting point is 01:07:33 poked up brothers reckless the good brothers desperate but it's for his wife to pay for her cancer surgery keep your critics
Starting point is 01:07:49 to yourself because I give it five stars amazing I love you Roxanne thank you that was amazing alright Amazon has
Starting point is 01:08:07 ambulance has 14,000 reviews on Amazon 63% are five star reviews the average rating is 4.3 out of 5 this is a big
Starting point is 01:08:23 big fun movie and I'll start with Andrew Stebbins writes this just because drive car does not mean mechanic just because watch sports does not mean athlete
Starting point is 01:08:39 just because watch movies I saw the trailer I knew what it was I like seeing what Michael Bay can do in his own style the cast was five stars no movie viewer will get what one desires but I must remember America
Starting point is 01:08:55 I support one star reviews because of freedom of speech but one star reviews about this movie are wrong oh my god this movie was great I appreciate the efforts and the unique shots I have not seen any other filmmaker attempt like a drone underneath a jumping car getting to see the underbelly slide
Starting point is 01:09:13 horizontally from one side to the other appreciate overtime average quality increase forget how overtime the quality of all stream movies have gone up I will not let myself be spoiled I will enjoy movies that have earned
Starting point is 01:09:29 and contribute to the increase of streamed movie quality five stars oh my god finally a duo writes in Jennifer and Kevin it only took me to the end to understand that this movie wasn't about the chase
Starting point is 01:09:51 it was about our human stories the first movie I've liked in a very long time no political messaging it was colorblind I got a unifying message and a message about the consequences for the choices we make the title of this is called
Starting point is 01:10:11 humanity five stars no do you think that Jennifer and Kevin wrote that together or Jennifer has an account that she's titled Jennifer and Kevin
Starting point is 01:10:27 oh that's interesting to kind of help her get more like my parents email account we don't often do this but we are going to read a third opinion this is a one star review and I want to read this one because it's pretty great there's a lot of weird one star reviews
Starting point is 01:10:47 they're very political and this one was great it's like okay this one's spoiler alert this film production probably ran in the millions the money spent was used to make LA police look like fools, losers
Starting point is 01:11:03 and buffoons no offense to buffoons honestly, honestly we are speaking so negatively about buffoons culturally car chase after car chase through LA with hundreds of police cars
Starting point is 01:11:23 and helicopters chasing ambulance down with no success if you believe that then you are a fool I don't want to give away the end of the film I knew that liberal Hollywood script writers would make it okay to give money to the poor wife money stolen from the bank
Starting point is 01:11:41 after the people who were shot the wife needs an operation so what many people are in that position don't refer to crime the real lesson should be if you commit a crime there's no reward
Starting point is 01:11:57 also how did the MS worker carry all that cash there was a truckload of police and FBI in the scene they would have taken possession of that bank money another Hollywood let's shoot a film and make a buck the fools in the audience will buy any kind of junk
Starting point is 01:12:13 sorry but crime doesn't pay one star so angry how about this woman getting on a cancer operation seriously Josh Holly needs to find something to do in his free time
Starting point is 01:12:35 oh my gosh I know that we all recommend this movie I want to tell you a couple things though two things about it the helicopter chase sequence in the Los Angeles river was not in the script Michael Bay came up with the idea over a weekend and shot it in two hours
Starting point is 01:12:51 what happened that weekend how how did he get there I want to know everything he shot it in two and a half hours when a helicopter became available but here's the thing he couldn't hire stuntmen so Jake Gyllenhaal was actually hanging off the side of the ambulance
Starting point is 01:13:07 and shooting at the helicopters and Yaya was driving Yaya was streaming it to a friend as he was driving and said this is the crazy he should have ever done and it works it feels visceral Michael Bay on the first day of shooting
Starting point is 01:13:25 Michael Bay went up to a couple cops on the street and said hey you want to be in a movie to which they agreed and they used that opportunity to shoot to create a roadblock which allowed them to close the freeway for free instead of paying $400,000
Starting point is 01:13:45 Bayhem oh my god this movie was a failure in the world like of the movie theaters because it was a budget of $40,000,000 which is kind of low $40,000,000 budget for Michael Bay
Starting point is 01:14:01 it was the opening weekend was only $8.7 million and it grossed $22,000 across the world it made $52,000,000 but this movie was beat by Moonfall which we did here on the podcast oh my god fuck the moon
Starting point is 01:14:19 fuck the moon fuck the moon great movie actually as a matter of fact and Morbius the movie came in $49,000,000 but this movie was beat by Morbius
Starting point is 01:14:35 so Morbius made more money than Ambulance the Marvel one I know but let's go down the line yeah, a million percent this falls into the same category for me as movies that we've done
Starting point is 01:14:51 like faceoff or conair or these are this movie is, I mean this fantastic this is a blast top to bottom T2B and a lot of it is both Michael Bay
Starting point is 01:15:07 and I just rewatched Pain and Gain I'm a sucker for Michael Bay and Bayhem except for Transformers which I'm a hard pass on I've watched them all in their breath really? I haven't at all and they drive me crazy
Starting point is 01:15:23 but I will say the movie works primarily because I think the performances are fantastic everybody is great and making this movie when, what's the woman's name who's with Garrett Dill Hunt when she says it's a very expensive car chase
Starting point is 01:15:39 right now I was like yes this movie is the perfect amount of meta everybody's commenting slightly and they're referencing Michael Bay movies, that's it perfect, no notes, five stars
Starting point is 01:15:55 yeah, I have to say I agree, I really enjoyed it and once Lindsay the six year old was impaled and we showed it I can be brave once that happened
Starting point is 01:16:11 and we were inside that car and there was that rough piece of metal sticking out of a six year old's stomach I was like we're off to the races you know, we are from there on out it was a really fun ride and
Starting point is 01:16:27 Nitro and then when Nitro folded into the plot pretty seamlessly Nitro has real Sergeant Meatball vibes he reminded me so much of our dog that I was happy to see him on the screen and
Starting point is 01:16:43 yeah, I really enjoyed it it was fun throughout, five stars Roxanne you know just classic cinema I just love this sort of type of movie
Starting point is 01:16:59 that when you read about it you're like no that can't be real that must be the onion stop kidding around but then you see the preview and you're like oh shit they really made this movie
Starting point is 01:17:15 they really spent money and people made they did their little jobs together and so I love that that everyone came together and was like it's a paycheck and yet
Starting point is 01:17:31 as you said the acting was just 10 out of 10 I'm sorry but people were like give me my Oscar and the fact that it was overlooked it hurts it does I'm a little bitter about it
Starting point is 01:17:47 I thought Zagza I don't know why I'm having such a brain lapse I thought she was incredible and she deserved her own movie I wanted just a bunch of one-liners and her amazing
Starting point is 01:18:03 haircut and the fact that she was again competence is sexy so I love the whole movie up until they're under the bridge where it should have ended because they run away into the sunset and then whatever
Starting point is 01:18:19 but still the fact that they were like you know what we could end it here but what would really improve it is to paint the ambulance green in such a way that we're not hiding the three on top that they've used
Starting point is 01:18:35 to identify us all along and let's just kick this for another 45 minutes and see what happens honestly I would have taken 45 more I would have too and they had the courage to do the
Starting point is 01:18:51 stupidest thing possible and then and the movie like in the most ridiculous way possible where like there's no reality where this would have happened but let's commit five out of five
Starting point is 01:19:07 excellent film I can't and I know you brought it up before but I really want to drill down on you cannot the best the movie in microcosm is contained in the scene in which they are using FaceTime
Starting point is 01:19:23 to conduct surgery in the back of the ambulance they have her a three way call with her expert friend doctor and two specialists who are on a golf course the ambulance
Starting point is 01:19:39 is going 60 miles an hour she's reaching into the guy's guts holding his aorta trying to find his spleen all this crazy nonsense and then at the end of it all she uses her hair clip to suture or whatever the spleen shot or the
Starting point is 01:19:55 to stop the bleeding and then it works and they go ha ha ha ha ha they just laugh and they say it's time to like she had like an iPad just back there and wifi FaceTime call you know it's interesting I did think this at the very end like
Starting point is 01:20:11 only one person called Zach ever and that was the police not a single other person in Zach's life after his face Zach is unloved his face was plastered across the news
Starting point is 01:20:27 I mean people knew that he was a hostage not a single person sent a text also the teller Tina the fact that she didn't even come to visit him that was an oversight on Bay's part like let's bring this full circle yeah
Starting point is 01:20:43 and she says you know what I will go out on a date with you once you get the banana clip out she's like I will date you as long as you have a spleen and he's like oh no it exploded I will tell you this I'll give it
Starting point is 01:20:59 five stars this is a thank god it's got made a return to form for Michael Bay I'm gonna yes I like painting game but I'm gonna say not since bad boys to 2003 have we seen a level of Michael Bay in this like six underground is fine
Starting point is 01:21:15 whatever but like painting game was fun but I feel like it wasn't fully like Michael Bay out and I feel like I'm excited to see this I hope he makes more movies like this I would like for this to be the beginning of like I want to know
Starting point is 01:21:31 more about these people like give me more movies playing playing is doing a string well stop yo yeah oh yeah right right there oh no it's but it's boat isn't it called boat or ship yeah it's ship it's boat or yeah it's
Starting point is 01:21:47 I'm not crying I'm so happy it's the Mike Coulter characters story so I don't know if I assume Gerard Barlow won't be in it but it's his story and I believe it's called ship it's called ship and it's gonna be Mike Coulter's story
Starting point is 01:22:03 and yeah I think it's a misscaping I feel like that's that would be the thing oh that's gonna be awesome cause he's so hot and I mean that's of course the primary criterion but other than that also boat yes
Starting point is 01:22:19 ship will pick up where the storyline left off in plain oh so it's not a prequel no with the legionary disappearing into the jungles of Jolo Island it's not clear whether or not Butler will return for the next film oh he will oh he will anything you want to plug Roxanne you've done you have so much anything you want to tell
Starting point is 01:22:35 anybody to follow you or do or 10 10 23 I have a book called opinions coming out we're working on the subtitle right now but I think it's a black woman's opinion something like that it's gonna be better than that
Starting point is 01:22:51 but it's called opinions and it's out on 10 10 23 so pre-order links will there be a chapter dedicated to ambulance there will be now obviously a transcription of this podcast we need to have you come back now that we like I mean look
Starting point is 01:23:07 we have fast and furious we have halbs and shaws we have ships we have planes we have to have you back Gonzalez from this movie in hubs and shaw you have to have me back and truly like thank you because it's you that said I want to do ambulance so we are doing it
Starting point is 01:23:23 thank you Roxanne thank you thank you for humoring me it was great it was great to make you like we were excited about it because we've been sitting on it for a while we knew that you wanted to do it so we were like we're gonna hold it we're gonna hold it for a good live show and so this is it Jason June anything you want to plug um
Starting point is 01:23:39 no I'm trying to think I'll plug a couple of podcasts that I was recently a guest on that I thought were great TV I say with Ashley Ray absolutely fantastic TV podcast and then two Johns don't make a right which is our friends Josh Rader and
Starting point is 01:23:55 Josh Daly driving around Los Angeles not making right hand turns I've been on it it's an absolutely bananas podcast and we did it at night two Johns don't make
Starting point is 01:24:11 a night we'll see really really fun I want to call it a great show that you should be watching it's called Grand Crew it's on Peacock Nicole Byer Carl Tartt really really great and if we're talking about podcasts I want to call it this podcast called Valley Heat
Starting point is 01:24:27 which is a comedy podcast about a guy who lives in the Rancho Cucamonga district of Burbank or like the equestrian area of Burbank who thinks that there's drugs being trafficked in his neighborhood
Starting point is 01:24:43 it's just go find it it's great Valley Heat and it's really a very funny podcast um so that's what I will I will plug there and uh and thank you to you the Largo audience thank you for coming out here tonight thank you guys
Starting point is 01:24:59 thank you to our amazing team up in the booth thank you to Largo thank you everybody for coming out here tonight we did it! thank you everybody for listening to this week's episode of How Did This Get Made make sure you check out Valley Heat and Grand Crew uh which we talked about last week on
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