How Did This Get Made? - Fifty Shades Darker LIVE! (w/ Joel Kim Booster)

Episode Date: March 8, 2024

Joel Kim Booster (Chrissy & Dave Dine Out) joins Jason and Paul to break down the Empire Strikes Back of the Fifty Shades Trilogy—2017's Fifty Shades Darker starring Dakota Johnson and Jamie Dornan. LIVE from Largo, they discuss the helicopter crash, how to properly insert kegel balls, the pommel horse scene, Anastasia's evil boss Jack Hyde, and a whole lot more. Plus, we take a trip back to Paul's traumatic childhood when he reveals what he incorrectly thought the term "blowjob" meant. UPCOMING TOUR DATES IN: Belfast, Dublin, Glasgow, & London! Go to hdtgm.com for tix and info.Pre-Order Paul’s book about his childhood, Joyful Recollections of Trauma, wherever books are soldFor extra Matinee Monday content, visit Paul's YouTube page: youtube.com/paulscheerHDTGM Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmPaul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheerFollow Paul on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer/Check out Paul and Rob Huebel live on Twitch (www.twitch.tv/friendzone) every Thursday 8-10pm ESTSubscribe to Unspooled with Paul and Amy Nicholson here: listen.earwolf.com/unspooledSubscribe to The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael here: www.thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcastCheck out The Jane Club over at www.janeclub.comCheck out new HDTGM merch over at https://www.teepublic.com/stores/hdtgmWhere to find Jason, June & Paul:@PaulScheer on Instagram & Twitter@Junediane on IG and @MsJuneDiane on TwitterJason is not on Twitter

Grab a pint of Ben and Jerry's vanilla, put on your masquerade mask, and pop in some Kegel balls. Cause marriage is in the air. We saw 50 shades darker, so you know what that means. I'm the TLC! Everybody hope to blow off steam Just to suck a bunch of the online certificate We're shot with sugar-slurred Demi-Cowdy stand alive They call me when they're badass and he's on the line Crank the nades, hate livin' us cause they cool as ice Cause the bad Jim Barney lookin' kind of nice

All in June, you're in Liverpool, Jason is getting laid Julas make a show of the monkey shots in the pan They're just a bunch of movies, why they making the grade Here's a real question for you How did this kid pay? Hello people of us! And hello people of us, Angela! We are live at Largo 4 The second part of the 50 Shades of Grey trilogy

That's right, 50 Shades Dark shades darker wow oh wow if you thought nothing happened in the first movie get ready because somehow even less happens in this movie it starts off with Anastasia longing or missing or broken up from Christian and then immediately they're back together. And then all the S&M stuff, that kind of goes by the wayside and it just becomes like a straight up romance movie with a little kinky shit in it. And it ends with a proposal, two, three maybe proposals, and finally, a twist that makes no fucking sense. But we need that twist because we have

to get to the final chapter. We're going to break it all down tonight. Every bit of this movie, all two hours and 11 minutes of it, depending whether or not if you watch the Unrated Cut, which I did. Cause I like understanding the publishing industry. That's all the extra scenes are just

in the world of publishing. More meetings! Here to break down tonight's episode is my co-host. Please welcome to the stage Mr. Jason Mann-Zuques! What's up jerks? Let's go Largo! We're here for the Empire Strikes Back of the Fifty Shades of Grey series. Cut Christian open.

Put Anastasia in his belly! Now, last night we both made some predictions about where we thought the second film was going. Boy, I would say we're kind of right and kind of wrong. Kind of right, kind of wrong. There was, I did not expect at all that there would be gunplay. I didn't expect there to be a helicopter accident. When, at what point in the second movie, do you introduce three villains?

Movie one, the only villain, Christian Gray. Movie two, three new villains? Okay, movies. When Joel Schumacher took over Batman, enough. There's too many villains here. Too many villains, too many nipples. Although. Just like this movie.

So many nipples. I would love it if she was like, are those burns and he was like, they're all nipples. By the way, Joel Schumacher would have been a great choice to direct this film. I would have been into this movie if it was Joel Schumacher. Imagine these movies done by Joel Schumacher. Imagine these movies done by Joel Schumacher or Adrian Lyme.

Oh, well, then they're very differently. Wow. Then it's actually horny. And I'm not like during the sex scenes, actively folding laundry. I wrote it in my notes. I was like, there's tits on screen and I'm folding towels. When something's wrong. I felt the same way when when a sex scene came on, I was like, oh, time to get a snack. Yeah.

It was like, it was like a commercial break. I was like, ah, I've never in my life been less interested in sex scenes. It's so been less interested in sex scenes. It's so, like, I don't know. It's like, I feel like, well, we'll get it. We'll break it all down. Will we? I hope. And I hope by the end of this episode,

we get some justice for Roz. We introduce Roz, like, and Roz, like, the fuck is Roz? He can't talk to about Roz like Roz is a character that we know. Who? I mean, at what point they're like, the fuck is Ross? He can't talk to about Ross. Like, Ross is a character that we know. Who? I mean, at what point are they like, we're gonna introduce 30 new characters in this movie. You gotta follow all of them.

My favorite thing was that they introduce the sister who's changed her hair color, but she's wearing a mask. They're like, oh, you look different, but you're in a mask. And then she drops like five minutes of exposition in the walk-off camera. It're like, oh, you look different, but you're in a mask. And then she drops, like, five minutes of exposition in the walk-off camera. It's like, even the people we know is confusing to re-meet them.

And I'm not sure the jack we meet at the beginning of the episode is the jack at the end of the movie. The jack at the end of the movie? I don't know who this guy is. He's got a smoky eye? I'm like, what is happening? I am confused. Well, luckily.

Let's do it. Let's fucking do it. Luckily tonight, we have, and how did this get made? All start joining us to break down this film. He has joined us once before in a movie that was also kind of sexy with David Duchovny. And his. The secret? Yes.

Oh, no. We're not bringing out that movie. Oh, no. Oh, no. Are they gonna... The movie isn't here. The guest is the movie The Secret, which we also will watch again. Oh, no.

I feel like everybody in the audience just sympathetically shared my experience with the catalog of our movies, which is why have I watched all of these? Just we're reminded of the nightmare that is this podcast. Our guest tonight is the writer and star of the hit film, Fire Island. He is now currently on. Chrissy and Dave, die now.

Please welcome Joel Kim Booster. Oh my goodness. Hello, you guys. Wow, wow, wow. You got a, you got got almost standing ovation. I know. Jumping out of there too. I was a little nervous when everyone, you said the name,

and everyone was like, oh, no. I got nervous too. I was like, no, this is going to be a good guess. And yet another episode without June, the way I almost turned the car around. I told him on the way here, I was like, and I do have some bad news. June is not going to be here again after assuring you that she would be.

Yeah, and you don't, I know she'll never listen to this, but she is, and I'm not exaggerating, she is one of the reasons I started doing comedy. Really? And so I cannot wait to meet her. Ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha! You don't understand. I was so nervous about meeting June tonight that my boyfriend got stressed out about what

he was going to wear tonight. Because he was like, well, I'm going to meet June tonight. So that's where I'm at. But it's okay. It's okay. It's fine. It's fine. it's fine. Well, I will tell you, there is nothing sweeter than watching June just sick trying to muscle

through this movie. Oh, she got, she watched it? She, I watched it, she's like coughing, like writing, you like work? That's all I saw, that's all I saw. I was like, do you think, do you think the movies made her sick? That's what I saw. That's all I saw. I was like, do you think the movie's made or sick? That's what I was gonna say. I do feel like there's something about these films

that is contagious. People are getting a fever, a 50 shades fever. All right, so we last night spoke about our connection to this movie, which was we didn't have, we understood culturally or it was, we didn't see it before. Did you, where did you come into on the 50 Shades scale? Like where did you- Either the books, the Twilight fan fiction

that it began as or the movies. So this is crazy. I actually, I've never seen any of the other 50 Shades movies. I've seen this one three times now. Whoa! Um, I saw it as a joke when it was in theaters that it turns out it was a joke I played on myself and then I watched it on the plane flying back from New York today and then I decided to watch it a

third time with my boyfriend today so we've since broken up yeah My brain is mush. It is... It did not make any more sense. And it makes actually less sense the more you watch it. Well, that's the weird thing. I feel dumber. Yeah, it's a weird movie because you're like, wow, I just spent two hours, but what happened? This movie isn't interested in explaining anything that happens, as we find out when he, Christian Gray and Roz

are in a helicopter crash and never explained to anyone how they got away alive. Which? Performance of a lifetime from Roz who says no less than five times while the helicopter is going down, what's going on Christian, what's going on? And it's like, bitch, look around.

Yeah, you're crashing. You're going down. And if you are that confused, then you are not taking helicopter flying seriously. If I'm in a helicopter, I'm assuming I might die. Like that's the choice I've made. Like I might die here. This is it. I got to say too, there's something really despicable about the fact that this takes place in the Pacific Northwest. That that, like the helicopter goes down in Portland

and then he walks in the door in Vancouver seconds later. The way that he walks in is, I mean, there's a lot of shit that makes no sense. But the way he walks in so angry, like, yeah, what? What? Yeah, my helicopter crashed. Why are you all here? Why are you crying? Why are you upset? Get out of here. Yeah.

Leaf, leaf. Yeah, it's my birthday. Whatever. Go. It's like, you... He didn't even take in that he was in a crash. He has the attitude of someone who is like, oh, actually, I wasn't in the helicopter.

Right. The news is mistaken. I've been at the gym. So why are you guys... You don't need to be this upset. No. I lost my phone in the helicopter crash. He and, they, the helicopter crashes,

and he and Roz are both 100% fine. It seemed like they crash and was like, hey, I'm late for my birthday dinner, can I just hitch a ride with you? He called an Uber from the crash site. Yeah, they let him home. He didn't even go to a hospital to get checked out. What's his driver's name?

Taylor Tyler? He's there, right go to a hospital. Get checked out. What's his driver's name? Taylor Tyler? Yeah, he's there. Right at the crash site. Mr. Gray. Taylor. Taylor, I'm going down. I'm going down. What is going on? Just shut up. Pick me up in the middle of the woods.

I'm going down. Taylor, I need you to pick me up in the middle of the woods and give me a carefully wrapped box of Apple products that are already set up for me. I kept getting confused because he kept texting or saying, hey, I'm here with Taylor or Taylor and I are downstairs or Taylor and I are going to dinner. And I was like, is that the sister?

Like why he's so close to Taylor? Taylor is as a body man, but Taylor is a little sidelined in this movie. It seems like Taylor was sent to go kick the shit out of the editor who worked. Like that was some new information. Like go up there, go beat the shit out of the editor to work. Like that was some new information. He's like, go up there, go beat the shit out of that guy. That guy's getting punched in the face.

Like, why are you doing this? Well, you upset my boss. What I will say about this, which I loved, is the opening sequence where we're getting a shoeless, rural, southern, like, this is his life. And he's in this like, very like log cabony with an abusive dad. His trauma flashback?

It's a Dolly Parton music video, though, at the beginning is what it is. Except that that would be harsher. But stepdad is saying, you silly fucking twit. What? Twit? Come on. And that's all we get. You think, oh, maybe that's going to be,

we're going to get more. That's all we need is that little sliver of him hiding under a bed. And then it's like, and we got it. We got it. Now you get it. I think they're trying to soften the edges, though. I feel like this movie, and we got it. We got it. Now you get it. I think they're trying to soften the edges though. I feel like this movie, and I know it is like based

on Twilight fan fiction, but so much of it is Mormon coded. I want to hear about this. It really is. And I feel like this whole movie is just a series of vignettes between sex scenes that are like Mormon lady, dream, like wish fulfillment, basically. Right, yeah. Like this is is everything happens

exactly like it's exactly as sexy as like the dirtiest Mormon lady you know concher well that's it it's like it's like the most deviant and everybody think of the dirtiest Mormon lady picture it in your head Ooh, she's drinking a Coke. Like, when I was a kid, like, there was... You heard these stories of what, like, different sex acts were, and they primarily only had, like, you know, just very vanilla sex. Like, I've heard some dirty stuff. And, like, if it's kind of wrong in the translation, like, the way I heard what a blowjob was when I was a kid was... Is this in the book? This is in the book.

Maybe that's why it's like fresh in my head. Or maybe it isn't. I don't remember. You have to bring some ice with you. You put ice in your mouth, you get it real cold, and then you also have a hairdryer. And then you put your mouth, like, you take the ice out, now your mouth is cold, and then you, like, blow on the dick, and then you take the hairdryer and make it hot, and you're kind of, like, doing, like, an icy hot thing, like, that's how I heard what a blowjob was.

I was like, whoa! But, like, temperature's not even a remote part of it. Yeah. But I'm learning this in, like, you know, fifth grade. I'm like God at blowjob need need the hairdryer need ice Wow as it's interesting because it's interesting you were learning so much about the giving of a blowjob That's just something a lady would bring to this... I know, yeah. This is a bunch of guys sitting around talking about what you need, and I didn't even think about it in that way, yeah.

I gotta say... Hey, Mom, I got a big date tonight. Can I borrow your hair dryer? Well, I think I got in trouble with my mom, because I said, like, oh, what are you gonna use the hair dryer on him? And my mom was like... what are you talking about? You said that to your mom? Yeah, I don't have any further to put it. Put it in the book.

Who's your mom blowing? What's happening? How is this gonna make? How is this gonna make? But no, you're completely right about the sex in this movie. And I'm gonna say this, and I might be able to explain it by the time the episode is done, but watching this movie and specifically watching the sex in this movie, all I kept gonna say this, and I might be able to explain it by the time the episode is done,

but watching this movie, and specifically watching the section of this movie, all I kept thinking is like, oh God, like straight people have to do all that just to be gay, you know? Like, it's just like the whole time I kept watching it, I was like, just be gay! You know, like, you wanna be a freak, like, I don't know. It just-

And so much so that this movie like takes back the premise of the first movie. The first movie is like, Christian Gray, he's a dominant, and he's gonna fuck her. He doesn't fuck. He fucks hard. He doesn't sleep in the same bed. And everything about these movies is like, just making him into a boyfriend. Like, in this movie, he's just a straight-up boyfriend who, like, maybe has, like, a handcuffs. Well, they finally... Like, they just love going down on women. For two full movies, we are like, is she gonna wanna go to the red room?

Is she gonna wanna go to the red room? And then finally she's like, take me to the red room. At the end of this movie, take me to the red room. They go in, he puts cuffs on her for like 10 seconds and then they're just having like passionate lovemaking. Which he has explicitly said is not what the room is for. So I'm like, what is this? Is this just a room for set deck?

I didn't realize that they hadn't gone to the room yet. The movie makes no indication that it is a special thing at all. Well, the first movie ends in the cliffhanger that he brings her into the room and then uses like a writing crop on her and wh movie ends in the cliffhanger that he brings her into the room and uses a writing crop on her and whips her in the butt and she is upset about that because he's taking a pleasure in her pain,

which seems like that's what we were to understand the whole thing was. And then she's like, I'm out of here. And then this movie seems to pick up two days later. And they're back. How long is it between movies? Do we know? Because I asked that too. Because I was like, they're acting like it was three nights ago,

but then also feeling like, was it six months ago? I don't know, but either way, it's like, he sends her flowers. He's like, good luck on your new job, so he's still stalking her. Like, he knows that she's getting a job. She goes to throw it out, and I was so happy she didn't try to cram all those flowers. Yeah. Yeah.

The flowers all fan. I was like, at least save the vase. Yeah. But, and then she gets her job in, this is 2017. She gets a job in a place where I've seen more paper products Than ever like there's the one of the one of the assistants there is next to like a Gutenberg Press It's like why do they have so much paper in this publishing industry?

It's like they're not like this is this is not the past well And when she later on when she takes over for the boss and the the other boss lady is like you have to go to the meeting She hands her a stack of manuscripts as to what is she doing at the meeting? Yeah, I'll tell you that. That she needs all the manuscripts. That woman is from HR. Her job doesn't interact at all with the content of the manuscripts. She's like, well, then you're in charge now.

the content of the manuscript. She's like, well, then you're in charge now. The guy I really could talk about Jake, Jake, right? Yeah. Jake's arc Jack, right? The boss. The boss. Well, wait, we have to, and shout out, my boyfriend pointed this out, his name is Jack Hyde.

Oh. Yeah, I saw that too, like Jack Glein Hyde. Ooh, I like that. And that fits perfectly with the amount of cleverness in his books. Yeah, I said it. I would think that was clever if he had a kind side and then a mean side, but from the jump,

he's a piece of shit. And I'm like, Anastasia Steele is like just attracting the worst most toxic people. He does get her coffee. Yeah. When he first comes in, I like that. I like, I like, oh, but then I thought we're going to get like a little secretary action,

like the movie secretary. I was like, ooh, this will be fun. Like she's going to have that relationship here. Nope. Like nothing. An actual sexy move. Well, and to defend, to defend Jack Hyde a little bit. Okay, a Jack Hyde apology?

Yeah, I mean, I'm an actor, and I believe he's a doctor of literature, so it's Dr. Jack Hyde. Dr. Jack. Dr. Jack. I'm sorry, but like, he did have a point, she should have gone to New York. Yes!

I'm sorry, that's your job. Her, and by the way, this movie is all about, I don't want to be controlled, but then he invites her out for a drink, and like, and Christian comes and is like, go, let's go, and they leave, and it's not even like that weird, and it's like, no, that's bad etiquette. Like, she's bad for leaving, he's bad for taking her, like, he should be pissed at that.

Like, well, and it is the movie, like, is unwilling to be complicated at all. Like, this is why it's like Mormon Lady Wish fulfillment, because, like, yes, you need to do your job and go to New York. But then the movie immediately is like, well, actually he's a rapist, though. So, um...

Right, if you would have been raped. So, thank God, Thank God you listened to Christian and didn't go. I was protecting you. I really... I mean, I also want to talk about Jose's art photo exhibit. So, Jose... On every level.

I want to talk about it on every level. Jose. The year's portrait studio that he does. That she didn't know that there was gonna be... These are... The movie's got it every level. That she- The year's portrait studio that he does. That she didn't know that there was gonna be- These are- The movie's got it every way. She wants to be like a Demure virgin, but like almost Mormon-esque person,

but also a model, like in like all of these pictures. And also like there, the movie is trying to have all of the pieces in place. And then none of it makes sense. Well, it's so interesting because, you know, his photo exhibit seems like arty photos, and then you're right, the Sears Portrait Center, that are like headshot outtakes.

It's like, oh, I don't, no, I don't want that one. I don't want that one. And they're giant, and she's like, I didn't know you took these, like, you didn't? Because you're fucking posing for headshots. Yeah. Like, there's no way that those were stealthily taken. Like, that's a lit environment.

Like, I'm biting my sweater. I'm covering my hand. Like, the only thing I didn't see in her is like, she's like, you know, wearing like a contractor jacket. Like, well, I'm a, could be a construction worker. I'm not going to be a bartender. I'm a seller. You know, it's like, but she's like a composite. Yeah mom could be a construction worker. I'm a sailor. You know, it's like, but she like a composite.

Yeah, composite. Like, but it's like she said, oh, I didn't know these are going to be here. What did you think was happening? Yeah. Well, and then when she was like, who bought them and it's like, I don't know who bought the six like portraits of you, the guy who stalking you. Yes. Who then comes takes her to, and orders her a steak.

A steak with fries. A steak with fries. What the fuck, A? Don't order for someone, and then don't just give them a steak. We'll have two steak with fries. I will say. I also was thinking about them fucking on that.

Well, that's the thing. That's the thing is like, she said no sex, no sex, and a steak with fries is a no sex meal. Yeah. She's sending mixed signals, because then she gets a qu, no sex. And a steak with fries is a no sex meal. She's sending mixed signals, because then she gets a quinoa salad. That's fucking food I ever heard of. Oh yeah.

Oh, that's messaging. She's saying, that's a choice. That's like, I'm open for biz. Both of them, both of them. And this was true in the previous movie, but even more so here, both of them are sending mixed signals in every conversation they have with each other.

They're saying one thing, doing the opposite, constantly flip, flip, flip, flip. And it's absolutely insane and makes the movie impossible to follow because none of it adds up to any, I don't know what anybody wants. And why they say they want. I wrote down this thing, I was like,

what is he getting from her? Like he's like, oh, I can't get you out of my mind, down this thing, I was like, what is he getting from her? Like he's like, oh, I can't get you out of my mind. You obsessed me. I'm like, why? She's not funny. She doesn't make them laugh. She doesn't do anything. Does he have any interesting opinions about anything?

Both of them are boring. She keeps trying to touch him in the red zone. Okay, that was new information that I couldn't unpack that. I didn't understand that. I didn't understand it. And then 40 minutes after she draws the red zone, he takes his shirt off and it's still there. I was like, what was this drawn with?

I wanna see that housekeeper clean doing the laundry the next day and being like, what the fuck is going on inside this shirt? Like every shirt is now. But like, so he can't beat. He can't be touched like just slightly like torso. Like, but it's like it's we it's like the hardest place not to touch a human. It's like don't touch here and she's only like they're taking here. And she's only like, they're taking a shower and she's managing not to touch there,

which I was impressed. That's probably the most impressive thing the movie does. No, she like, when she washes it off, she's fully in the red zone. Yeah. It's... Why the red zone? Why?

I don't even understand. Take answer your question, Paul, I think, which you were asking is, what does he see in her? Yes. It's his mother. Yeah. That question is answered in the text of the movie, which is he sees in all of these women that he's been involved with, his mother,

that he is acting out some sort of something with, right? It is crazy. And I know that, like, this would sort of ruin the movie like there wouldn't be three movies three books if this were the case, but the fact that therapy is never brought up one time like not once does Anastasia Steel say I get that I mean it's hot to me but also let's get like call better help or something. It's easy. If you don't like your therapist, you can change it. Promo code bonkers?

I have talked to better help about that. I'm like, you realize that you're giving the promo code bonkers to a mental health hotline. Like, we're fine with it. I'm like, okay. Far be it from me to critique your promo code, but it seems slightly problematic.

Um... Um... You know, the... It is... It's like, it is odd. It's like, because then we reveal, and again, you probably have putting this stuff together, but if you haven't, I'll just show you something

that we know that, you know, Kim Basinger, which is a surprise. I was like, ooh, yeah, I said Kim Katral. I was close. I said Melanie Griffith. And I thought Kim Basinger was great. Like she got a great look and I was like, I wanted her to do more, but she's his Dom.

And I don't quite understand the very relationship. This is the thing about the movie too, is it creates, there are like three interesting movies that it almost becomes in the movie. And that is one of the interesting movies where it's like she's the final boss. Like, you know, like, you thought he was a Dom, well get ready for this bitch.

And then like, like, she, you thought he was a dumb, well, get ready for this bitch. And then like, and how bad did you want her to tell him to Neil? Yes, when she was upset, the way that he did to the woman who had the gun, you know, like I at the end, when they're having their confrontation with with Kim base, you're I wanted her to say to him, Neil, and for him to just immediately do it, I would have loved that. But instead, like, Marsha Gay Hardin seems like she's in on it too.

She's like, get the fuck out of my house. And I'm like, first of all, I'm confused about Marsha Gay Hardin. Because she seems like a great stepmom. Like, she actually, I'm like, the first one, like, oh, is she a little controlling too? A great adopted mom. What?

Adopted mom. Oh, adopted mom, sorry. But I'm like, when we first met her in episode one, I'm like, okay, I don't trust her. Now I'm like, I think she's pretty great. I think he's coming from a pretty healthy family. Yeah, like, which is odd because we're constantly told that he's all fucked up. But then when Marsha Gaye hard, like, get the fuck out of here. She's revealing to

me that she knows that Kim basing her raped him, right? No, she has, she's, oh? No, she's over her. Yeah, she over her. Our book reader. Paul, you're wrong. I believe she has just overheard him say to Kim Basinger, you taught me how to fuck, she taught me, meaning, on a stage of how to love.

Well, and now I'm really concerned. Which is a tattoo I have. For whatever. It's way too big, and you're not supposed to be touching that area when You have that dead. This this must have been from the book but like I'm really concerned about the business they apparently share to yes drops at one point he's like she's my business partner and she owns the salon like does he own a see you on dry bar like? Like, yes, that must be what it is. He owns, this man owns anything.

He's like, well, I bought the publication company. I bought the publishing house. I'm like, he's buying, yeah, Drybar's publishing house. If anything, to diversify. The best is when they cut into, when he's having the passive aggressive text conversation with Anastasia and he's in a business meeting. If you just listen to the business

that is being talked about while he's, huh, huh, huh, the jargon doesn't add up to anything at all. It's kind of like third quarter earnings are off on environmental statistics that are pushing into, you know, every... She literally says something about quantum physics at one point. Energy... And it's like, do you work for Stark Industries?

But also own a publishing company and a salon? I mean, really, this company does everything, and also, he does not a god. And it's all run from the Pacific Northwest. The hub, the hub of big business, but it's not tech. No, it's fucking Vancouver. Now here's a question. We're gonna get into it at one point. And I don't, if anyone has any examples,

I don't want to get too gross about it, but you know, obviously we gotta to get back to the sex stuff because you know, that's what this movie's about. For a long time we're like, oh, is this gonna be a movie where it's like sexist time? And did not until he introduces these vaginal beads, whatever, Benoit ball, whatever they are, or Kegel beads, whatever.

They don't really name them. I had to go looking online to find the exact name. And they're real quick. Well, I go looking, all you have to do is say, what's it called? Kegel balls? Kegel balls. Okay, a bunch of fucking freaks.

Kegel balls. 15 horny Mormons in the audience said. I got them in right now. I watched a lot of, there's a lot of videos online of people going, I tried the balls from 50 Shades Darker and this is what I found. And honestly, everyone thumbs up. Everyone is like, they're all in.

Are there 50 Shades Darker branded Kegel balls? I think the balls in the movie are a brand that people. If you went to the theater in the movie are a brand that people... If you went to the theater in the popcorn...... First, you have to get them salty. ... But... ... I love that you went to salt not butter.

Yeah. This is a real about face from Lastangoo in Paris, but it was it was odd to me. I mean, I like that that this movie finally introduces some humor. We did well because she goes because I want you to wear these and she's like in my butt. All right, it was a little the Lady Doth protest too much. I think I think she was like, no, I won't stick that in my butt. Oh, you mean you don't want it in my butt. Okay. And I guess I know, I know the answer to this. Like you, I don't want to see it,

but it seemed like it went in so quickly. It was like a bend over. Okay. So I was like, didn't seem like those is like fly in. Like you want it, you wanted a Foley artist to be like. Pfft. Pfft. Pfft.

Pfft. Pfft. Pfft. Pfft. Like go. First one's in. First one is in. I think I just audibly heard her vagina swallow those beans.

Well, it made me have questions, because I was like, how did they go in so quickly? It just seemed like it was like, I'm really... Like, she was like a jet engine or something. So this is the thing, like, I was also similarly confused, but I was, like, chalking that up to my ignorance about female anatomy, but it feels like you should know. Like...

I just think that it seemed... Well, to the audience. Anybody want to weigh it? No! I'm being the no. Wow. Oh, okay, it's like a tampon. These pussies are gobbling these balls.

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Ah! For sure. some, absolutely. Absolutely. Our fans, it's gonna go bad. So this movie is really like led by the masquerade ball. We're going to the masquerade ball, which I'm hoping is going to be sexy. I'm like waiting for like an eyes wide shut thing. No, it's like a boring ass like, like, it's an auction.

It's a charity auction. You know, and you know, that's the thing. The scariest mask is Kim Basinger's mask. Did you when she like forgets that she's not wearing and she's like, Oh, I better put this Pinocchio mask. Well, I feel like she's the only person in the movie that's at a sexy mass. Great ball. She's the only one that gets it. Everybody else is like sexy mass. Great ball. Just kidding charity auction. that gets it, everybody else is like, sexy, masquerade, ball just kidding, charity auction, how's that?

Yeah, there are some odd things about, like so, they're in this, you know, they're in this auction, they're doing this stuff and we get this moment, you know, after they fuck in his room or whatever and this guy on the staircase taking a picture of the family and they're like, who is that? But it's so clear because of his hair. Yeah. Okay. The minute I saw him from the back, I was like, well, here's Jack at the party.

It's fucking asshole. So Jack, I mean, and this is, I guess, the question because Jack seems to not know Christian, but no, this is the other thing. I don't know why he took the photo of the family because they're like a wealthy, famous family. Just Google that. Well, in the first movie it was established there's only three pictures of Christian Grey on Google, and two of them were from later in the movie. But here, I was just gonna say,

we've now seen him take and be photographed dozens of times. Right, he is not someone who doesn't want his photo taken. He is out and about. He's getting his photo snapped. And but they take that picture and they also like, what, like it's not like evidence. Oh, it seems to be simply so that he can burn the cigarette in it in the last scene.

So he took a picture of his iPhone, went to like a target, found one of those machines, printed out a 4x6, it's like, got it, and then... Something like that, and that's how absurd it is. Can I ask, and somebody maybe we'll know from the book readers or something like that, was Jack meant to be this series' Jacob? Are we supposed to be choosing between,

like, the way that Bella, you were either Team Edward or Team Jacob? No, right? Don't even finish. Don't even finish. He's just as supposed to. No, no, I want to keep asking. Let me explain myself.

No, no. Do you remember Team Edward and Team Jacob? But Taylor Lautner. But this is why, like to your point, this is why this movie is kind of missing the mark because in my mind, I'm like, wouldn't it have been interesting if they break up and she actually finds this guy kind of sexy.

He's in her field, he likes literature, they get together, they find each other on a different level. They have sex, they, like, there's something interesting and then Christian Grey comes back. But this movie doesn't allow anyone to literally be in a scene with her more than 35 seconds. Even when the helicopter crashes, like, I'm back. Guys, why are you with my girlfriend?

That's my girlfriend. Mom! He doesn't even want his family spending time with her. Get the fuck out of here so I can be with my girlfriend. Mom! He doesn't even want his family spending time with her. Get the fuck out of here so I can be with my girl. And he like says it at one point when he's like trying to assault her, he's like, I could fuck you and make you smarter too. And it's like, well, let her get to that conclusion, you know? I also don't want anyone to say that they're going to fuck the smart in town.

Like, I don't want to be smarter after we fuck. That feels weird. But there's also a thing which is like, I want to fucking get some vocab words afterwards, you know? I also was like, really, she cannot exist in the world without somehow being with the most toxic individuals. Like, Jose was creepy to her. Like, Jack spirals into like a, like, mustache twirling villain just by somehow being closer.

And then when Christian comes in and they have, then he's like, now I'm really pissed. What the fuck is this? I think that she's some sort of, like, demon that just is possessing people because we see nothing that makes her like appealing. She's a person who's watching like a video on her own computer screen like this, like ehh.

Like she has no passion. I don't see any passion. And she doesn't, like this is another thing that I overheard. When she's explaining one of the books that she likes at one point She describes it as it's a political thriller told through the lens of Dante's Inferno And then she gets cut off, but I'm like I want to know more I love that because I also feel like there's a middle part of that where it's the author Yel James going like let me talk middle part of that where it's the author, Yale James, going like,

let me talk about publishing and how fucked up it is. You know, because there's someone that's like, well, wait a second, they're only popular online. And she's like, I know, and that's where the readers are. And you need to be publishing more fan thick of fucking. Yeah, because everybody at this company is a creep or a piece of shit. How did this get me? How did this get me?

Oh my gosh. But we did reveal a question, an answer has been given now that the cleaning lady does clean up that red room. Yeah. And that was upsetting to me. She makes an acting choice. One of the most difficult acting moments in the movie is when he is carrying her out of the room and the cleaning lady sees her and she has to give him a face

that says like, oh you kids, but at the same time, like I know what you're doing, but she's like not judgmental but she's happy about it is. Like I wish you could pull it up because it is honestly, give her an Emmy. I know it's a movie but seriously. Who is it? Mrs. Johnson, is that her name? Mrs. Johnson?

She's turning in the best performance in the entire series so far. Truly. And some of the best performances here are in these smaller side characters. They just pop in, they do their little business, but I also feel like Mrs. Johnson is, like, maybe using that room, too.

Yeah. Mrs. Jones? I love that. Jones. Yeah. This is Jones. Jones. I love that. Jones. I feel like, I just feel like what she has experienced. A very Dakota Johnson delivery. Jones.

What she's experienced in this house has been weird, and I feel like... Jones. I'm biting my lip. I thought you've seen a lot of this. There's a lot less lip biting in this movie. Oh, yeah, she doesn't lip bite that much. Although, she did bite that sweater's lip, or the neck. No, no, the neck hole is the mouth of a sweater. No, it's just the neck hole. Um... I like the pommel horse scene.

Holy shit. And I found that... Holy shit. Is that a standard piece of gym equipment? Is that a standard piece of gym equipment? Um, I like the pommel horse scene. And I found that. Holy shit. Is that a standard piece of gym equipment? When I saw that, I wrote in my notes, holy shit, he has a pommel horse in his home gym, which he then used.

And I was like, wait, does this guy know how to do gymnastics? He. I was like, wait, does this guy know how to do gymnastics? He? All right, so he's doing a normal. I love that everybody in the crowd is getting horned up. This section right here, we're going to need to put a tarp down. Now, this is what I love because I

can't tell if this is wire work or this is him. That's real. This is real. This looks real. Does he do gymnastics? Wow. Did you work on this movie? Are you the script supervisor?

Are you? Did you play the pommel horse? Only could do four takes. He could only do four takes and then he was done, but it's real. I'm sorry, but who set up here that he uses the pommel horse correctly? Because he just, you could do that on anything. I guess so, but you don't need a pommel horse. Yeah, you're right.

But I would an edge to me. I was like, Oh, this is set decoration gone. Why? Like he's never going to use the pommel horse. But then he does, and I was like, okay. But it looks like he's somebody who doesn't know what it is. Right, he's not using the pommel horse correctly. He is just using it.

Like, using it correctly would be like, you know, hands, you know, flipping around. That would have been awesome. Like Jim Cada. Yeah, Jim Cada, that's you know, flipping around. That would have been awesome. Like Jim Cotta. Yeah, Jim Cotta. That's what I would want to see. But I feel like this movie is unanswered questions after unanswered questions.

And to me, the biggest question in this movie is she stops at a newsstand, and we don't see what she's buying. And she goes, do you have a gift box for this? Which makes me think she's buying. And she goes, do you have a gift box for this? Which makes me think she's insane. I lived in New York for many a year. I've been to many newsstands. Do you have a gift box?

I think the person would look at me like, what the fuck are you talking about? They would take it back. If you asked like a bodega person for a gift box, they would pull a gun on you. Like there's two. And honestly, they would pull a gun on you. Like, there's just... And honestly, they would have every right to. Yes.

And here's what even more mind-scrambling... Apparently they do. Right. Apparently she's right. He does, and it works. And not only that, she gives him Christian Grey the box, and it's still in his pocket after the helicopter crash. The phone was lost. He has nothing else.

What the fuck? Phone was lost, but birthday gift stayed intact. And that to me feels like a moment where no one on set questioned it. It was like, you know, they have gift boxes. Do you have gift boxes? Yeah, they definitely have. Multiple size gift boxes, yeah. Now to me, a funnier choice would have been like, he like, they have gift boxes. They have gift boxes, yeah, they definitely have. Multiple size gift boxes, yeah.

Now, to me, a funnier choice would have been like, he like pulls like an old candy, like here's a Twix box. Yeah, yeah. We sold out Twixes, but you could put it in here, and it would be awkwardly sized, but yeah. Like, that's why this movie does feel like there's no complication. Like, that isn't even a complication, right?

Well, that's the thing is like, the whole beginning of the movie is like her being like, we can date again as long as you're not a fucking sex weirdo. Right. And then she does all the fucking sex weirdo shit that he wants. So he gets everything he wants anyway. So I don't understand what the problem is coming into the second movie. I don't understand what anybody's problem is anywhere in the movie. Yeah.

And not only that. A happy couple. A boring weird couple. She is introduced to not just her eyes being opened to a world of sexual discovery, but her world is being opened up to the mega wealthy. He is a billionaire. This movie should feel as though it's sexy princess diaries. Like, she should be like, whoa, what?

Everything should be shocking in every step of the way she's like, uh-huh. It should be like Annie, like, I think I'm gonna like it here. Oh my God, I can't believe this. But every step of the way she's unphased, and is like, yep, pretty much what I thought. She's even, I mean, the, And in fact, I'll take more.

The biggest moment, the most reaction we have is when the car that he gave her is like, pinked. I don't know if she was paint paint was thrown on it. Like she's like, oh, my car. Like that's like she's upset about that. And then when the woman with the gun comes in and Christian makes her kneel, she goes, takes a long walk. Yeah.

And then she comes back. Everyone just comes back. Like every from it's from that scene, the gun scene and the helicopter crash. The rest of these people's lives would be focused on overcoming that trauma. And they instead are like, let's go get a steak. Again, with the more interesting movie,

I thought, the first time I saw this movie, I thought, okay, this girl is stalking her, this girl is like appearing, popping up, and you think she's gonna be bad, but she's really there to warn her about Christian, and then Christian's gonna be bad. But no, the movie is like, no, no, no, no, she's just jealous.

She's just jealous. Yeah, you know what, like, he's like, hey, look. And it's also, who's the narrator? Cause like, yeah, she had a mental breakdown, you know? I cut it off, broke up with her husband. Dick's so good, she had to go crazy. Yeah. She is nuts.

I don't know about you. She's fucking crazy. But that whole scene when he comes in and she calls him master and is like, master lets you sleep in his bed or whatever that whole thing is. And then he comes in and it's like, Neil. And that whole thing unfolds.

The rest of the movie should be them unpacking those 20 seconds of time. And instead, the rest of the movie should be them unpacking those 20 seconds of time. And instead, the rest of the movie is masquerade balls, helica, everything else. And none, not a single examination of the absolute batshit insanity. Where did she go? Did he just... She's never heard of things like that. Oh, she is disappeared.

Taylor! Taylor! She is in the French foreign legion. She is dunzo. I mean, again, and we didn't even, I want to go to the crowd, but we didn't even get into the fact that she gets a job and within two weeks is now running the company.

Running it. And it stated, like, very clearly, he didn't make that happen. Like, she's good good she read that Dante's Perno book and make her the head I gotta say like it wasn't there in the performance but if if I were directing this movie her one person of color co-worker who has been there longer than her yes the way she's like so do I have to call you Miss Steel now? Like, she says it in like a normal, like, kind way, but in my head if I were that girl reading

that script, I'd be like, so am I supposed to call you Miss Steel now? Or... Yeah. Like, it's crazy. Like, she, I think is the only person of color, depending on how you count Rita Ora, is the only one in the movie. Rita Ora is the biggest one in the movie. Rita Ora is the biggest jump scare in the movie for me. I like, with I realized it was her, I was like,

that's the lady who was the villain in the Pikachu movie, you know? She, I mean, again, she pops in and we see her boom. It's like, we go, let's see if this will work. Oh, there she is. There she is. Yeah. And again, was she a brunette in the first movie? That's what I'm saying.

She pops in. So that's why they justify her blonde hair here, because she's both masked and blonde? So they introduce a character in a mask that we know they have to say, hey, she looks different, but she looks doubly different because she's wearing a mask. And then she's like, did he ever tell you about the time he used to fight people?

He got kicked out of school a lot. I'm just dropping exposition for no apparent reason. See you later! But it doesn't seem to bear out in any way, shape, or form. He's not a brawler, unless it's him that beat Jack up, and we just didn't see that scene. Maybe in the sequel? I don't know. Again, nothing much happens.

I do just want to remind both of you that we haven't talked at all about their time on the boat. Oh, my God. This is crazy. Your apartment isn't safe. Our apartments aren't safe. Let's go to this very minimally guarded boat. Let's go to the docks. The rest of the crew will be here in the morning. She wakes up in international waters?

What? You are being trafficked. What's happening? There is so much kidnapping going on in this movie. There are so many red flags for the entire Grey family. And Anastasia Steele, again, a name that is in no way shape or form real, is always like, I'm into it, I'm into it. I mean, look, this is, I'm fucking into it.

I mean, this is a scene of red flags. Here we go. It's all wrong. All of this is wrong. You put money into my account that I don't want it. Red flag. You bought the company I work for. Red flag.

This isn't a relationship, Christian. It work for. Red flag. This isn't a relationship, Christian. It's ownership. Red flag. I'm trying to understand you. I am just wanting to get close to you. But it's really difficult to do that when you keep doing bizarre things like this. And it's really difficult to do that when you won doing bizarre things like this. And it's really difficult to do that when you won't let me touch you.

Red flag. What? And it is, but maybe 48 hours later that she agrees to marry this man. No. Ah, because he says it in his sleep, but then he doesn't say it in his sleep. He knew he was awake.

I have to ask really quickly, because this is something I'm genuinely confused about. Because Dakota Johnson actually is one of my favorite actresses. I love Suspiria. I love Suspiria. It's one of my favorite movies. Is she good in this movie? Like, is she elevating the terrible script,

or is she right on par with? Thank you! We have another fourth member tonight. This row is in the movie. Here's what I will say. I have a conflicted relationship with her. This movie is leaps and bounds better than the first one. From a visual point...

What? Oh. Joel, do yourself a favor. And do not ever watch that movie. I mean, the first one looks like a student film. And this is like, well, lit. I feel like acting is better. That is crazy. The acting in the first one, you're like, oh.

I thought for sure this must have been a significant dip in quality from all quadrants. No. And as a matter of fact, this movie was shot so differently that I was googling Is it the same actor who played Christian Grey because he looks I think he's lit different or a gained weight and the good way like I mean like he just looks better the movie is failing everyone The movie is is actively working because there are so many good actors in this movie and it's working against all of them Nobody can make a choice that is helpful for the movie,

even remote. Yeah, I just, like, there's something about me that respects Dakota Johnson even more now after seeing this film, because there's something about an actress of her caliber that will take these shitty-ass parts, like, Madam Webb, girl, what are you doing? And the line that she says in that Madam Webb trailer,

oh, I love it. She was with my mother when she was studying spiders in the episode. I am like, yes. We will be seated. That is our Valentine's Day date. Is we are going to see Madame Web? I am all in on Madame Web.

Give me the three films. Oh, we'll be here. That's when you'll meet June. Yeah. The movie is so not interested in compelling sex scenes so much so that when she enters and has her first interaction with Mrs. Jones, it's to Jeff Buckley,

which we should all be fucking to tonight, right? But then when they do go and fuck, it's to, like, absolute insane rap rock. And I'm like, what is fucking happening here? This is very bizarre. Let's go to the crowd. Let's see what you have questions for. Obviously, there's a lot of opinions out here.

All right, so the one thing that we didn't mention was there was a lot of issues in the first film. The director and the screenwriter did not return because they had trouble with EL James, because EL James is very controlling of the script and wanted to make sure that nothing deviated from her books. So didn't she have like a rite of refusal on cast and certain... Yes, she had to control and so much so that the studio trusted EL and not the

director and writer. So for the second film, they got this new director, and they hired EL James's husband to write the script. Oh, whoa. Both scripts because they shot two and three back-to-back. They did not appear... Thank God. Like Avengers. Yeah. Well, this is the biggest... This is the Lord of the Rings. The biggest joke about this. Of erotic nonsense. These books have been gigantic. The trailers reviewed more times than Star Wars, The Force Awakens. It was in this thing that was insane, and the studio was like, did not commit to a sequel until the first movie opened and made like $85 million on the first weekend. So they're like, oh shit, we gotta finish these. They already had three. And so then they rushed them into production

to get them out. So it's an interesting thing, but EL James's husband, or EL, whatever, wrote the thing. Who had their hand up over here? Yes, okay, yes. All right, what's your question? So y'all have yet to comment on the fact that she took her panties off while at a restaurant.

Jason, I know germs are not your thing, so I'd like to know how you would... Thank you for knowing that. Of course. I'd like to know how you would react, and I must add, I took these notes on my old company's letterhead, so... Okay. Do you want to show the company out?

Yeah, I... Her old company's like... I thought she did a pretty good subtle job of it, but, like, I was like, if I looked... I would be the person it, but like, I was like, if I looked, I would be the person who would be like, na na na. She did it distantly. Yeah, you know what I had to say,

you know what I had to say when I saw that? Try doing that in pants, lady, okay? Ah. Then I'll be impressed. Then I'll be impressed when you can do that in pants. Every now and then. I would have loved it if he pulled up boxer briefs. Ah!

I would have loved it if this movie had transitioned into being like a Zucker Brothers movie. Like Airplane. And he pulled up like long underwear. By the way, save it. We can make a whole parody series. I was a little confused. Oh, I'm gonna open myself up to be an idiot. But. I was a little confused, oh, I'm gonna open myself up to be an idiot.

But maybe I was fucked stupid. Did he do it? Well, what was he doing in the elevator? I was just gonna say, he asked her to take them off so that he could finger her in the elevator, right? Which everybody, she is- I don't get the angles of it. I don't get the angles of it.

Close the elevator. Because he would have to kind of, like- Well, he's doing one of these. He's doing one of these. But it's like really, he's like... Oh, he's like... He does the old... Hold on, I'm done with that.

Yeah. He does one of those. That's why he needs to be on the pommel horse to get those angles. I think why you thought it was confusing, Paulie, is because you assumed everybody in the elevator heard... Pfft. Pfft. Pfft. I think why you thought it was confusing, Polly, is because you assumed everybody in the elevator heard... Pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft.

Sucking in those fingers like a jet engine. Pfft, pfft, pfft. But she is actively being like... Pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft Well, even at the start of it, when he goes down to tie his shoe, that one lady is like, why here? You know? Well, then let me ask. All right, then I'm going to continue to ask my dumb questions to the people who are very active about the fact.

Can I ask you? I'm sorry to interrupt you, Paul. Do you think he asked her to take off her panties in the restaurant knowing that he was going to finger her in the elevator later? Yes. in the restaurant knowing that he was gonna finger her in the elevator later? Yes! He... That's... By the way, he's fucking lame. Don't plan it all out like that.

Let there be surprise and discovery. This is what I thought was happening. And again, I'm revealing myself here because I trust you all. I thought he was pulling a, like, a hunchback of Notre Dame thing, where he's kind of pulling... I'm sorry, what now? I thought he was doing a hunchback of Notre Dame thing where he's kind of I'm sorry what now? I thought he was doing a hunchback of Notre Dame thing where, or Notre Dame, where he's doing,

where he's gonna like kind of pull on the bells like, like, uh, on the ball, on the, what? The balls, the um, the Kegel balls. Oh! You think, I was like, wow. There's a lot more going on down there than I thought. I thought he was like, dinga dinga dinga dinga dinga dinga dinga dinga dinga. You're right in the sense that when she's in the red room,

she does pick up like a bell that is on like a cat's, you know, there is a bell, but no, no, I don't. Dinga dinga dinga dinga dinga dinga dinga dinga, I don't. There's two of them in there and it's fingers. I think he's digging the bell. Oh my God. Was that leaving the restaurant? That was in the elevator going up to his apartment, which seemingly was a long elevator ride. And he seems, oh, I don't know who is above him.

Yes. Hi. Hi. What's your question? Hi. Hi, I'm Mike. Hold the mic. Okay, thank God. My question is, we haven't really talked about how the charity event was for parents of drug,

or parents that were drug addicts. And it was also a sexy ball, so. Right, well, you know, look, you can help out kids and also have a good time, right? I mean, you know, I forget I wrote down the name of the charity, it was like... Do we feel like the charity has anything to do with Christian Grey?

Oh, wait a minute, he's told us 30,000 times that his mother was a crack addict. I guess that's hard as it is? What he says is, my mother was a crack addict. You know how it goes. Like, well, no, let's get some specifics. Like, you know, she could be a, I mean, I guess there's not function of crack addicts.

But when he says, when she says that you've never told me that before and he says, I told you when you were asleep. Yeah! When you were asleep. Oh, I can't wait till I have a relationship and I can use that one. What do you mean? I told you, you were just asleep.

The ultimate gas, the ultimate gaslighting. Of course I told you, you were just sleeping. Hey, how you doing? What's your name? Nick. Nick, what's your question? In the first movie, Jose says that I just got, my art's gonna be shown at the Portland Place.

And I'm wondering if the gallery at the's gonna be shown at the Portland Place. And I'm wondering if the gallery at the beginning of this movie is the Portland Place. And it- So this is how close the first two movies are together? Or is, I thought this was like maybe later on. I didn't think that his art was gonna be shown in more than one spot, so. Good call.

I'm more wondering about- Savage, savage dig on Jose's heart. I have a question about the first one. Is Jose like in love with her a little bit too? Yes. Yes. Okay, so... In the first movie, he's her friend, and then he makes a pass, like an aggressive pass at her.

I only understood that because at the end of the movie, when he's announcing that they're getting married, he gives the best face. Like, it really does tell the whole story of the first movie and their relationship, because he goes, huh, huh, huh. Jose, give me a minute.

By the way, that was great. Thank you. Yes, your question. Maybe, it's John. My question is, did you guys catch the Vin Diesel reference in the film? Ooh, tell us, where is it? So, throughout the movie, while they're fucking in the bedroom,

like, one of the last shots is shots is like the wall they haven't shown and on the wall there's a Chronicles of Riddick poster. What? Oh, I did see that. That was fucking crazy because what was so crazy? What are you fucking talking about? Oh my god. I was like, this is so incongruous to everything in his,

he lives in a like a stainless steel apartment, but he's like... Like... Wait, that's a Christian Grey's apartment? I was really hoping you were gonna say... Wait, there... His bedroom, right? Oh, his child? Okay.

It's in his childhood bedroom. So that only serves to prove to me that Christian Grey is a fucking idiot. And... And when she should walk into the room and be like, Chronicles of Riddick, I'm done. Done. You're dumped.

I'm outta here. Because if that's your taste, you're outta your mind. We know he's a sadist. So obviously we have an opinion about this movie, but there are people out there with a different opinion. It is now time for second opinions. My name is Ian. Oh.

Yeah. Whoo! You're all his girl, but you know it don't matter, because you know he's gonna stalk you anyway. You can rely on all his money. You can rely on all his money. It's a great film, and I'm gonna review it cause I'm gonna give five stars and him's on.

That's it. Amazing. Going up, that was amazing. Just so you know, you're listening at home. No one volunteered for a song. He took a bullet for us all. That was amazing, great job. That's deeply impressive.

That's how it's done, short and sweet. Yeah. With a big ol' mustache. 44,000 reviews for this movie on Amazon. Read them all, read them all, read them all. All right, let's do it. But that's a significant decline because the first movie had 75,000 reviews.

So if this is 44,000 reviews on Amazon, 82% are five stars. So this is actually higher five-star rating than the last one. It's Empire, baby. So this is from Gabe. I would have loved it if Christian Gray had ended this movie frozen in carbonite.

I did write in my notes that I wish he died in the helicopter crash. Please go. I still want to understand how he got those fireworks to go off exactly right because he didn't cue anybody. Like unless he was wearing a wire or something. All right. So Gabe writes this, bought this from my wife. She's now watched it like seven times. This is not a movie about sex.

It's about character traits, environmental behavior impacts on the human mind and the needs which are derived from such impacts. As both a sociologist and a clinical behavioralist, having practiced for over a decade in the clinical setting and over three decades with infield work I can say the characters are much more realistic than many may realize Watching from this perspective makes the movie much more complete as an experience Extremely well done. This is not about sex. It's about so much more sex is a byproduct

It's about so much more. Sex is a byproduct. The title, watch for the human behavioral perspective and look for a deeper point. Much to be gained. Excellent writing, directing and acting. Five stars. Okay. I'm an abolitionist, but march him directly to jail.

I just... If my therapist ever said that they wrote reviews of things on Amazon, I would lose my mind. This person's license should be revoked. Three decades of field experience? Where? Ha-ha-ha-ha! Oh!

Kristen Allen or Chrissy, as she writes. Thank God we have her full name. And Nickname. And Nickname writes, movie is definitely darker. It's best to go back and watch the first one so everything makes sense. Otherwise, you'll be in the dark or interrupting the movie to ask questions,

which can get bothersome after a while. I guess that's maybe a note to someone she watches this movie with. There is a lot of sex in it, but I expect that's maybe a note to someone she watches this movie with. There is a lot of sex in it, but I expect that from this movie. It will make you both want to get something hot started. So that's just a little warning for you. If you don't know anything about sex

before watching this movie, you will learn something by the end. I wonder what? Definitely a girl's night or date night or maybe pick up some tips and tricks kind of movie. The title, Make You Wanna dot dot dot five stars. Ha ha ha ha ha! And um...

That was such a passive aggressive review. It really was. And this was my favorite one from Brenda. Brenda's name is Brenda I Gave It a Five. And Brenda I Gave It a Five, the title is Not for Teenage Children. Found out the hard way. My granddaughter accidentally ordered this

and of course was not allowed to watch it. She didn't know it was about. They didn't get my money back either. And I guess it was our fault for ordering it. Not for teenage children. Five stars. Wait! Wait! How is it five... How is that a five-star review? Because it arrived on time.

Also, there's... She did not accidentally order that. That was just insane. Oh, my God. How is that a five-star review? Because it arrived on time. Awesome. She did not accidentally order that. Oh, my God. There's no way that granddaughter accidentally ordered. She was like... I accidentally Googled men kissing when I was nine years old. Come on.

I swear to God, guys, I rented it this weekend. I tried to watch it, but my nana found it and said I couldn't. I've been going to one-star reviews too because I just want to see what's going on. And Michelle Dennis wrote this. It's pretty clear that E.L. James had all these fantasies in her head,

and she was just dying to share him with the world. But it didn't sit well with her, so she had to spin it in a way to make it look like a moral lesson or an explanation for people's bedroom behavior. The only reason her books made the bottom shelf of the grocery store is because we're in a way to make it look like a moral lesson or an explanation for people's bedroom behavior. The only reason her books made the bottom shelf of the grocery store is because we're in a climate that shames everyone in order to justify stripping people

of their privacy. And her juvenile fantasy books are yet another tool to point out what needs to be shamed. What a hypocrisy! If you're gonna play rough with your consenting partner, own it. Don't make up excuses and act ashamed of your twisted fantasies. EL James.

One star. No one's really taken it to EL James. Would you recommend this movie? Absolutely not. Jason? You know, I'm in for a penny and for a pound. Yup, I'm in. Having now and for a pound. Yup, I'm in. Having now watched last night's and tonight's,

I'll be honest, none of this is good. This is a absolute nightmare to be inside of. I'm dreading my day tomorrow. Can I say, this is a thing though, I would never recommend someone, and even having watched it three times of my own volition, I am weirdly curious to see the first one. Oh, I can't wait. I can't wait. I'm in. I'm all in.

I'm curious. You guys are enormously into the movie. Yes? Well, I read the books. Okay. We do not even touch what the movie is like. Can you give us like two or three little highlights that you want to say you wish X had made it in? Hold on. let me get. My wish in the last movie.

She's loud enough. She's getting it. I'm not getting that close. She's loud enough, it's okay. The first movie when they were doing the spank scene, it was actually what it was in the book, which is like, he beats the shit out of me. Oh, that makes more sense, okay.

That's why she's scared, and that's why she's... At the end of the first movie. Yeah, yeah. Um, and then third... Oh, I don't want to give you a third. No, no, no, no. No spoilers! No spoilers. Will you be here tomorrow night?

Will this role be here tomorrow night? But if you invite me, I will. You're invited. This feels... This feels like a... This feels like a Christian Grey scenario. I just was sort of submissive. I feel like you're the Christian Grey though. Yeah.

All right, well, I want to quickly just go around real quick. What do you think is going to happen in the third one? Oh, wow, wow. I mean, now that it's been introduced, again, the first movie, Joel, you'll be shocked to find out has no thriller elements nothing but like sexual discovery So now that there's been gunplay and helicopter crashes and all the rest I'm assuming there's gonna be like murder We're definitely gonna have a murder and my prediction is that somehow

Kim Basinger might need to be the big bad like what you were saying like maybe she Merges gonna get shot or get murder gets murdered you think I think think she's gonna get shot I think we're gonna see babies I think there's gonna be a time jump whoa how many like 40 years it's gonna end like Harry Potter we're gonna see their kids doing SNM like Muppet babies. Hair. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Um... 50 Shades of Babies.

That's the t-shirt. That's the t-shirt. And it's just Nana stocking. You just see the Kegelballs hanging out from the... Ha ha ha. I think, um... I think that Jack is gonna kidnap her. Kegel balls hanging out from I think I think that Jack is going to kidnap her. Okay. And I think he's going to have to put together a team diaper guy rose piss guy

it's an adventure play. A team of all kink people. Yeah, kinksters. Yeah, I'm into it together. A kinkster team. No fister. I love it. The expendables. That's what the fisters. Captain. Captain. Ball torture. Nipple clamps. Get over here. I thought that they had nipple clamps, but they were only used on the finger. Sexy. This movie is not as horny as it wants to be. Thank you for coming out. This has been How Did This Get Made? You all are fantastic.

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