How Did This Get Made? - Last Looks: Q The Winged Serpent

Episode Date: November 22, 2024

Jason joins Paul for a marathon chat about what music & podcasts they're currently diggin' with a couple Gilmore Girls and Star Wars tangents along the way. But first, Paul dives into corrections and omissions from Q The Winged Serpent and shares a deleted scene from the Q live show. Plus, you bet that Paul announces next week's movie! PAUL & JASON'S LISTENING PICKS:DestroyerMdou MoctarMary LattimoreWolves of Glendale (start with “The Gym”)Acadia by Yasmin WilliamsDaryl Johns LP by Daryl JohnsGeordie GreepWaxahatcheeFloristPorridge RadioThe Innocence MissionLost Notes: Groupies PodcastThe Penguin Official PodcastThe Watch PodcastHouse of R PodcastThe Prestige TV PodcastThe Third Gilmore Girl: A Memoir by Kelly Bishop PAUL & JASON'S WATCHING PICKS:Junior TaskmasterAn Almost Christmas StoryNöthin' But a Good Time: The Uncensored Story of '80s Hair MetalGilmore Girls (for holiday time viewing) Tix on sale for Philly live show on Nov 16th and holiday virtual live show on Dec 12th! Go to hdtgm.com for ticket info, merch, and for more on bad movies.Order Paul’s book about his childhood: Joyful Recollections of TraumaFor extra content on Matinee Monday movies, visit Paul's YouTube page: youtube.com/paulscheerTalk bad movies on the HDTGM Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmPaul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheerFollow Paul’s movie recs on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer/Check out new HDTGM movie merch over at teepublic.com/stores/hdtgmPaul and Rob Huebel stream live on Twitch every Thursday 8-10pm EST: www.twitch.tv/friendzoneLike good movies too? Subscribe to Unspooled with Paul and Amy Nicholson: listen.earwolf.com/unspooledSubscribe to The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael: www.thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcastWhere to find Paul, June, & Jason:@PaulScheer on Instagram & Twitter@Junediane on IG and @MsJuneDiane on TwitterJason is not on social mediaGet access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using the link: siriusxm.com/hdtgm.

You've got Christmas mail, an evil dream, and a brand new jizz theme. All this and more on today's How Did This Get Made? Last looks. And now, Anna from Largo, sing us in. There's a beast over Manhattan streets Plus a small-time crook who finds a body Shepherd and pal, the detectives we meet discover human sacrifice

Quetzalcoatl is a god from the past Is this a sci-fi film or a crime story? Who even cares? This flick flies by so fast 92 improv'd minutes to be precise it's Q the wing it's serpent on how did this get made and it's time for a second opinion as we go to the reviews do you think you'll be swayed this is by far so bizarre but bad! Gave it five stars. Amazing!

Yeah! Give it up! Hello all you undercover mimes. I'm your host, Paul Scheer, and welcome to How Did This Get Made? Last Looks, where you, the listener, get to voice your issues on Q, The Winged Serpent, a movie that discord user maximum Derek thinks should have had the tagline Q the winged serpent more improv than dinosaur oh well thank you thank you maximum Derek for plugging my own show yes dinosaur we just

got off a big week long tour on the east coast for more info you can check out my website but that's not a plug. I don't wanna be plugging right now. I wanna be applauding Maximum Derek. Thank you Maximum Derek for that alt tagline. Remember, if you have an alt movie tagline or title, submit it to our Discord, right? Just jump on there, put it up, and maybe, just maybe,

if you plug one of my shows or my book, or it's just plain funny, we will select you for this highly, highly coveted spot of alt tagline. I don't know, we don't have a title for that, but you won, you won something there. All right, coming up on today's episode, you'll be hearing all of your corrections and omissions on Q the winged serpent.

Then Jason will stop by to chat with me about the music and the podcast that we are currently listening to, and you're gonna want a pen because we we're going fast and there's a lot of good suggestions in there. Plus, as always, I will reveal the movie for next week's episode. Heads up, our live stream. How did this get made is doing a live stream. It's available all around the world. It's on December 12th. Plus, Jessica Sinclair is joining us, which is going to be such a blast. The movie is called you've got Christmas mail.

Now I know a lot of you've been saying Paul do hot frosty, but April watched it and she said. It's not good enough. All right. So trust us. Uh, again, the live stream is December 12th. You can watch it seven days after the broadcast. Just go to HDTGM to get your tickets.

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Now, last week we did talk about Q, the winged serpent. We had questions and we might have even missed a few things. Here is your chance to set us straight. Fact check us if you will. It is time for Corrections and Omissions. It's time for Corrections and Omissions. We got a couple things wrong, but we're gonna fix that right now. It's why we're singing this song.

We're gonna take a couple phone calls. Maybe you know something we don't. Perhaps you can change our opinion, but it's like the natural. Corrections and Omissions. Thank you Brash Menagerie for that theme song. Let's go to the discord. All right. This is what we got here.

Mick G 3D writes, can we talk about how after they shot and killed the bad guy who was doing the sacrifices at the end, they just left the body in the room, closed the door and put a do not disturb sign on it and walked away. Like how little do they care about who is going to come and clean that room? Nick G3D, we talked about that in the show. It was crazy. Not only do they not care, they put a, um, like a little sign there for the maid to find the body. All right, so this is a cop who, who was on, he's in the scene of a crime. He committed, you know, an act of violence. He should be filing a report, but no, he just leaves it for the maid. That's the 70s for you. Cops, you shoot them, you go home. There's no reports

to file back then. Sean McBee writes, Paul's tidbit about the real scientist examining the abandoned nest long after the production had wrapped came from writer-director Larry Cohen himself on the film's commentary track. Larry said the story was on the front page of the New York Times. I was curious, so I went to the New York Times archives to attempt to find this article. I searched every conceivable term

that might turn up the story, and what I found is, oh no, I know what you're doing, Sean, Larry Cohen is a big fat liar. Okay, not only was this never a New York Times front page story, but there was never a story about this in the New York Times or anywhere else because it never happened. Larry claimed that anthropologists descended on New York, curious about the mysterious nest found in an abandoned police station, as if it were a nest built by the ancient Lunapa'i,

a tribe of Manhattan, and the city constructed a police station around it. No one who finds that fake ass looking nest in an abandoned building is calling scientists their Colin trash pickup. Well, Sean McBee, it sounded odd. I agree, but I have to share it. And I'm glad that you were able to call out

that Larry Cohen loves to make up a good story, as we all know because we loved Q the Winged Serpent. All right, lovely Lizette writes, I thought for sure Paul was gonna mention it in the episode. Uh-oh, what did I do, Lizette? The woman who plays Carradine's wife was his actual wife in the episode. Uh-oh, what did I do, Lizette? The woman who plays Carradine's wife was his actual wife at the time. Okay. You thought I was going to mention that. Is that interesting? We'll see. Also, the sacrifice victim was played by Carradine's

brother. I'm going to bet that both castings were due to the short notice of pre-production. I agree. I agree. That's actually a good, you made a good point at the end. I didn't know if it was worthy of mentioning it because Carradine's wife is barely in the movie and the sacrifice victim is Barely again. These are you know small parts, but you're right I think that that probably just speaks to the fact that they were so rushed They're just you know calling anybody to get to come on down. I mean look the director is in the movie as a sacrifice victim He just threw himself in there. That's what I'm talking about. That's movie making.

That's 824, 1970 style. All right, let's go to the phones. Rory from New Orleans, what do you got? Paul, I was a minute or two into the Q episode and I noticed that you scoffed at the idea of a robbery homicide unit. That is what most cop units call that. Like, uh, if you look up any city's RHD division, um, and Jason should know this as a big Bosch fan, uh, RHD is a big part of Bosch, robbery homicide is the,

uh, common denominator. Like that's what they call that. So look it up, look up, you know, Corpus Christi, RHD, it's a thing. Bye. Worry. Thank you. As a Bosch fan, I am embarrassed.

I've watched all seasons of Bosch and I'm very excited for the new Bosch spinoff. I guess what I found weird was that they were investigating them both simultaneously. It's like we got robberies, we got murders. I guess what you're saying is they're doing both. They're doing both simultaneously. So if a bank is being robbed, that's the same person who's also investigating a serial killing.

If that's what you're saying, then I found it hard to believe that those same cops are doing both jobs. I would think that there would be a specialization on some level, but Rory, I'm gonna believe you just like I believed Larry Cohen, that the same cops who are investigating a serial killer often also are solving robberies. All right, and you're probably right, I'm saying it like disbelieving,

but you probably are right. Well, first of all, let me say this. I never saw Bosch bopping back and forth between, I saw them doing a robbery homicide, but I didn't see them doing like a robbery and a homicide. I still don't believe you, but I know you're right. All right, Ashley from California, what do you got? Hey, Paul.

So the latest episode, Q the fifth son came to be, which is an Aztec myth which features the god Ketsu-kuo-kuo, which is Q, the winged serpent. So, I just wanted to share that little bit of information as we are shaping young minds here in the state of California. Bye. Nat. Ashley, you are shaping the best young minds. We need to bring back Quetzalcoatl in schools. Gavin Newsom, I hope you're listening, because we need Quetzalcoatl in schools. Gavin Newsom, I hope you're listening because we need Quetzalcoatl in every school. We need the Book of the Sons. By the way, speaking of which, we do have an amazing shirt that we just made at T-Public. It is called The Winged Serpent. I mean, what

else would it be called? I guess, is that Quetzalcoatl? I don't know. I didn't know that he was a winged serpent like that. But I love that you're teaching that. And please, if anyone else is teaching that, let me know what the kids think about Quetzalcoatl. Alright, back to the Discord. Del Preston writes, one thing I noticed during the end credits was the song, in quotes, Michael Murray already played in the bar was actually listed as the only song on the soundtrack. He just made that whole thing up on the spot, obviously, but they still credited it. And it was titled Evil Dream.

And at the end of the episode, you played that scene with him and Candy Clark, where he says, I get all this evil dream, you know, evil dream go away. And it didn't put two and two together while I was watching it. But a couple days ago, I realized it was obviously a call back to his song. And he's harking back to the lyrics slash title of the song, which is why he says it in a sing a songy weird way. Del Preston, hold onto your butt because this might be the winning one.

I mean, right now you just uncovered something that blows my mind. This is what Michael Moriarty is doing. It's one of the best performances of all time. Oh, wow. Oh, wow Wow, wow, wow. I love this Del Preston. All right, Joel from Chicago all the things he speculated about Improvising scenes shooting without permits letting actors run wild were par for the course for Larry Cohen His maverick. Okay reckless approach and sense of humor are well loved among cinephiles

Okay, reckless approach and sense of humor are well-loved among cinephiles. No less than Martin Scorsese is prominently featured in a great documentary about Larry called King Cohen. We know Larry as a B movie legend, but he also infiltrated the A picture realm or at least mainstream Hollywood for penning scripts for Phone Booth and the How Did This Get Made Favorite Cellular, which is essentially Phone Booth. So I guess he had a phone related fixation for a bit. He even wrote a movie directed by the legendary Sidney Lumet, Guilty as Sin.

And now here's a note from our producer, Scott. Cohen actually also co-wrote Cellular with Chris Morgan, who wrote and produced several Fast and Furious movies. Yes, Chris Morgan, Legend. And here's what I'm gonna say. I have a feeling that Larry Cohen wrote Cellular and then Chris Morgan was given that script to punch up and he added so much of his own stuff

that they got a co-credit on it. That would be my guess. I don't think that Chris Morgan and Larry Cohen were just in like a coffee bean and tea leaf, slamming out pages on that one. That is great. And I have to watch Ken Cohen. I know everyone's so happy that we did cue the winged serpent.

I am too. If there's any more Larry Cohen that we should watch, let us know. Django 2108 writes, Michael Moriarty is actually a genius with his tarp over the building obsession. Anyone who owns a winged creature knows that if you cover their cage, they go right to sleep. It well, that is true, right? Yeah. If they drop a tarp on the building while Q is in there, it would be an easy kill or capture. A much better solution than shooting randomly at the top of a building. All right, well, Django, 2108. I had birds growing up. My stepfather had birds and we would put the tarp over. But here's the thing you're missing.

That's for birds, not dinosaurs. I mean, that is a winged creature. You called it out. I don't know if the same rules apply for like parakeets and parrots as a winged serpent. That's a serpent, not a bird, a serpent. Anyway, so many great corrections and omissions this week, but I'm not gonna lie.

I already said it. There's one winner and that winner is Del Preston, who did the hard work. He let this movie infiltrate his brain, and he found a connection to something so obscure that I think this is one of the best corrections and omissions that we've had in a very long time. Bringing it back old school, Del Preston,

you are our winner, and you get nothing but this amazing song from Joel Terry. Hit it! You win, everybody else all loses. You don't get a medal to prove it, but you don't need no accolades. You can sit back and say, I win tonight on Paul post mini episode. I went tonight on post teeny tiny little mini episode.

Thank you, Joel, for that song. Remember, if you want to submit a theme song to us, please email your theme to howdittisgetmadeatearwolf.com and keep them short. 15 to 20 seconds is best. And if you want to chime in with your own thoughts about the latest episode, hit up the Discord at Discord.gg slash HDTGM or call us at 619-P-U-L-A-S-K. But coming up after the break, Jason will join us for a classic Just Chat. I wanna remind you that if you are a fan of the deep dive

with Jessica Sinclair and June Diane Rayfield, they are doing a holiday livestream. You can get tickets for that also at HDTGM.com. It's going to be a lot of fun. I just built a brand new studio and they're gonna be christening it. That's gonna be a great fun show. Now, before we go to commercial,

I have a bonus scene from our queue, The Winged Serpent live show. This is exclusive just to you, last looks listeners. I mean, it's not that exclusive, but it's exclusive enough. Here we go, check it out. I did like about the cops and their relationship. I feel like in a lot of cop movies that came after this, everybody seems so young and these guys together,

David Caradine, which are, let's say, oh, they're old. Yes. They're old, but rest assured, they fuck. Oh, the thousand percent. But there's something nice about that. Again, this movie is a movie that purports that the NYPD is about six dudes who cover all the cases. Yeah. Because it seems like Richard Roundtree is, like, why would he even ever be talking to Michael Moriarty's character?

There is no reason to. And that's the thing there. Are they detectives? Are they, do they have a beat? Like I could, are they patrol? And then also David Carradine is, is leading the operation to also take down Q from the top of the building. Like there does seem to be- Well, he's also interested in pursuing, you know, Q as a winged serpent and Richard Roundtree is like, this is bullshit. I will not abide this. Like they're at odds, which is strange. What's so funny to me is also like David Carradine

went home and wrote like a book report about Quetzalcoatl. Like he's like, here's my report. My report is here. And he got it. It's not evidence. Police reports are like, we came in, we saw this. He seems like he wrote a book report about- He was trying to give some background information.

And by the way, I would have loved to have read that report. Oh, same. It looks like it was in a nice folder. It reminded me of something that I might have done. Somebody should have given more of like an expositional download. I would have appreciated it. Yes, me too.

Well, we have that whole walk and talk, the very awkward walk and talk. We have two of them, one outside of Columbia and one inside the museum where they really try to break down. Now, I thought one of the guys who was sacrificed at the end was one of those professors. Quite possibly. Was it? Was possibly. Was it?

Was it? Was it? Oh. Interesting. All right, I like that. Do we ever really get insight into what they are up to? I don't know. Who they represent, what they're all about.

I mean, I think that they're just trying to bring back Quetzalcoatl. That's it? Good news, he's here. Yeah. How did this get big? How did this get made? How did this get made? Welcome back everybody.

I'm sure you've noticed that every Monday we re-release old How Did This Get Made episodes back into our feed. I know that everyone's talking about Wicked, so we wanted to, you know, kind of do something a little bit musical here as well. So this week's episode was Cats, next week's will be Spice World,

so we'll keep that music alive through the Thanksgiving holidays. So keep on checking out all of our replays of classic episodes every Monday. And now without any further ado, it is time to just chat with Jason. And to play us in, we have a special theme in the style of Jizz music from the Star Wars universe.

Yes, we've talked about this a lot. The music in Star Wars is called Jizz music from Star Wars universe. Yes, we've talked about this a lot. The music in Star Wars is called Jizz. That's not a joke, it's real. So move over Max Rebo band, it is time to hear the Action Jackson 5's Jizz Chat theme. I love it. Here we go.

Jason and Paul Jizz Chat. Talk about comics and movie bits. James got a bad feeling about this. Star Wars music and all that jizz. Jason and Paul just chat. Jason, oh my gosh, it's been far too long. Ah. Here we are.

Here we are, November, and we are. It is fall, baby, and if you're listening to this right now, we're probably on the East Coast. Yeah, we've been doing shows, so come out, see us do shows. And of course, so excited for our Christmas show that's coming up. Our virtual live stream is going to be a blast. Has the movie been announced for that? Do we know what we're watching? Yes, it's called Christmas Mail.

Christmas Mail, M-A-I-L or M-A-L-E? Yes, M-A-I-L, and it seems toL-E? Yes, M-A-I-L and it seems to be about a mailman. I think that's not quite the title. Let me look it up. Scott, Producer Scott, interrupting the flow. It's called We've Got Christmas Mail. Oh, okay. We've Got Christmas Mail.

So wow, playing off of the AOL You've Got got mail, but it's now we've got Christmas mail. Jeez, this is a 2010 classic. Oh, 2010, I was gonna say, to be using the AOL catchphrase at this point does seem insane. Well, what's so kind of interesting is I've been looking at this poster, gonna make all the ads, that's the way we do it here,

and the we've got is very tiny. Christmas mail is very big. It almost looks like the Christmas mail, but we've got, I'm just, because I'm like, how did I miss we've got? It's so tiny. We've got Christmas mail. That's very strange.

And is this a, does somebody turn into something? Does an anime object? Look, I wanna enjoy it. You don't know, you don't know. Yeah, I don't know, I don't know a thing. I know that Avril found this and she never misses with the holiday films. I know a lot of people wanted to do

Frosty Hot or whatever. There's been a bunch. Frosty Hot? There's a few out there that people wanted to do. There's a Travis Kelcey, Taylor Swift one that Jessica's- Wait, what? Yeah, Jessica sent it to me. Oh no, it's not them. It's the, you're saying it's like based on that. I get it, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I for a second was like, wait, have they already done a movie together? That would be amazing. I would love to see. I would be thrilled. Yeah. I mean, I love that time of the year.

I mean, when I go to my dad's house in New York, I'll just pop on Lifetime when I'm going to bed around Thanksgiving time and it's already begun. Life is, you know, yeah. Yeah, see for me, that period of time I don't watch those movies, that is reserved for Gilmore Girls.

Okay. Gilmore Girls, like Thanksgiving to Christmas is peak rewatch Gilmore Girls a season, which is incredible. See now, how many seasons are there of that? Seven seasons of Gilmore Girls, although season seven, I think you can put brackets around and never watch it again,

because it's the season where the Paladinos were fired from the show. So it feels like after season four of West Wing, where the driving force of the show and its unique voice has somehow disappeared. I will say while we're on the topic, I've started listening to the audiobook, Kelly's audio book, The Third Gilmore Girl, AKA Emily Gilmore, and it is dynamite. She reads it, it's fantastic. And you very kindly gave me a Gilmore Girls Advent Calendar.

Thank you, Paul. I was so excited to find that and get that for you. And I wanted to make sure you had it for day one. Can't wait. Day one. And here's the thing, Jason. You said seven seasons, but do you include the Netflix season?

Well, I didn't get there because I was gonna say, and there is of course Amy Sherman Palladino does do her final season, which is 12 years later on Netflix, which is four movie length episodes, a year in the life is what it's called. Do you, you don't seem as enthused? Well, let me be clear.

I think it's, it's gangbusters with some fantastic cameos. Yours, yours truly makes a cameo. But I think it's very uneven. I think, though, it is one of the best Emily Gilmore storylines in the show. Emily Gilmore is one of my favorite characters in the show, and I feel like does, kind of can oftentimes be relegated

to the villain or whatever, but her story overall, and including those four episodes of A Year in the Life, she's doing incredible work. I think Kelly Bishop is amazing. Also amazing in Bunheads, but you know, four episodes of The A Year in the Life are, she's doing incredible work. I think Kelly Bishop is amazing. Also amazing in Bunheads, but you know, Emily Gilmore, I won't hear spoilers for A Year in the Life,

only because the actor Edward Herman has passed away, has long since passed away, who plays Richard Gilmore. And so her story is quite like, incredibly one of just profound lofts and grief, and that is a very compelling story. BOWEN I love that, and just because I have not seen it, who do you play? Who do you cameo in there as? TREVOR Oh, I play a zero. I play a nobody.

I basically said, I will do anything. And they took that and they ran with it. So I am a lawyer who makes a 40-second telephone call to Rory Gilmore to fire her from a job she's had. I work for a woman who's made a publishing deal with Rory, and it's played by Alex Kingston, River Song, from Doctor Who, of course. Right.

And so I'm in my only scene with her. That's it. I don't meet any of the Gilmore girls. So you didn't get to go to Stars Hollow. I don't go to Stars Hollow. I'm in my only scene with her, that's it. I don't meet any of the Gilmore girls. So you didn't get to go to Stars Hollow. I didn't go to Stars Hollow. I'm in a random building. I was there for like 40 minutes. It was the thrill of a lifetime. Oh, I can only imagine.

I mean, like, what a, those are the best pop-ins. Just pop in, pop out. Especially when you're a fan, it just feels cool. And I tried to play it cool, and I was professional. And then when I was done and the Paladinos came over to say thanks so much, I started to give them a spiel about what a big fan I was and how much this meant to me. And they were like, yeah, yeah, no, no, no, we heard.

And that was it. Oh my gosh. We were talking this weekend that my son has gotten into Star Wars, and we talked about it a little bit. And I have to tell you, did you see the trailer for Skeleton Crew? I haven't watched it yet,

because I'm just gonna watch the show. I'm just like, there are certain things that I'm like, oh, I'm so excited, I don't want to get spoiled, I don't want to know that this or that might happen. I don't want to be waiting for, well, in the trailer I saw that clip of blah, oh, I'm so excited, I don't wanna get spoiled, I don't wanna know that this or that might happen. I don't wanna be waiting for, well, in the trailer, I saw that clip of blah, blah, blah. I don't care, I want it to all feel new. You know what, and I appreciate that.

I was just trying to show him, because my son now is like, well, why aren't there more things? I'm like, well, this is gonna be right up your alley, kiddo. Watch out, we're watching, you know, we're watching Taskmaster Kids, we're watching Skeleton Girl, I mean. Love that, if you're not, if you've heard Paul, we're watching Taskmaster Kids, we're watching Skeleton Girl. I mean, oh.

Love that. Love that. If you're not, if you, you've heard Paul and I talk about Taskmaster in the past, James Acaster, a past Taskmaster contestant just guested on our Dream a Little Dream episode, which perhaps is out by now or is imminent. But the new Taskmaster season that's airing right now is Rose Matafayo, incredible Rose Matafayo from,

she's a Taskmaster contestant, she's starstruck, she's fantastic, go ahead. And she's great as the Taskmaster. It's a very different dynamic, because it's kids. And it's fun though, it's still very funny. And the first thing in got me hooked. They put their assistant, the new assistant for the show. Mike Wozniak is his name.

Yes, they put Mike on a rotating circle, right? So it's a spinning around. Like a lazy Susan. A lazy Susan and that's spinning. And he's wearing a very tall top hat. And the goal is get as many things into my hat as you possibly can without stepping on the red that surrounds the lazy Susan. And my gosh, these kids right out of the gate

figured out how to subvert that beautifully. And they got a lot of sass these kids, very simple task, but already like this is gonna be a lot of fun. So fantastic. He's also a favorite of mine from past Taskmaster seasons. Both of those two have been on fantastic seasons of the show.

And I think they do a good job so far of making it feel very much like Taskmaster without, look, there's certain things you can't do with kids. And I think I'm rightly so. But it also is incredibly funny. Oh, so good. The only thing I wanted to tell you about Skeleton Crew, and I don't think this is a spoiler, because it's not really a plot point.

Yeah, oh no, you can say anything to me. I'm happy to talk about it. Well, is they got a kid Max Rebo. Max Rebo, as you might remember from Return of the Jedi, plays the piano. Oh, he's playing Jizz in Jabba's place. Jizz the canonical music of Star Wars. Oh my god, I hate that.

How did they do that? Every time fanboys get all upset about George Lucas is infallible, George Lucas meant this, George Lucas meant that, this is against, just remember that he created a music and called it Jizz. Right. What are you doing, guys? Just remember that he created a music and called it Jizz. Right. What are you doing, guys?

And like the fact that like there are certain things, like how did it get so far? Because it's not like, oh, he wouldn't know what Jizz means. Yep. Well, I keep it. Yeah. Oh, no, it's too good. I love that there's a kid Max Rebo. Yeah, I saw that in a picture. That's what I was very excited about. That's, you know, I don't know much more about it. It's got big Goonies vibes. Just in case, there might be people in the audience

who don't know what Skeleton Crew is. It's a new Star Wars series on Disney that is a group of kids. It's like a Goonies kid adventure with Jude Law as the adult. And I think it's basically, from what I understand, again, this is us talking out of school they steal a ship they steal a ship and

And that's where the adventure begins and it's John Watt who did the right? It's John Watt who did the the and David Lowry is directing it. Oh, yeah. Yeah directed a some episodes and also My my friend a director of twisters some episodes and also my friend, a director of Twisters, Lee Isaac Chung, he directed it as well. And Dave Lowery, if you aren't familiar, has done everything from Pete's Dragon to The Green Knight and the ghost story

and all these incredible movies. He's one of the great visual stylists of our time. Well, you know what? All I'll say is, when it comes out, make sure you set some time aside to watch an almost Christmas story, An Animated Holiday Short by David Lowery, produced by Alfonso Cuaron. Oh, wow.

It has John C. Reilly is in it, Natasha Lyonne, Jim Gaffigan. It is a beautiful stop motion animation piece that he did that you will absolutely love. Is this new? Is this something that's available right now? It is available. I believe by this time it will be available.

Great, so maybe we'll put it in the show notes or something, a link or something. Almost Christmas Story on Disney Plus, inspired by the events of a tiny owl named Rocky, who was found at the Rockefeller Center Christmas tree in 2020. That's how it all goes. And wow, I, it's great.

It's just great. Cool. How the disc can be. How the disc can be. All right, so I know that you and I have both been traveling. We've been watching stuff, I imagine. What's been on your mind?

I've got a bunch of music stuff to talk about. I've got a bunch of shows to talk about. Just some music stuff. Why not? I feel like there's been so much, I need some new music recommendations. Sure, sure, sure. So I'm gonna shout out a couple of live shows I've seen

and in doing so shine light on those artists as well. So one of them we've talked about a million times before. and in doing so shine light on those artists as well. So one of them we've talked about a million times before, I know you weren't able to make it, but June was Joni Mitchell at the Hollywood Bowl. Absolutely, I mean, like a hall of fame concert for me. Like I know we had an incredible time in Seattle last year, and this was like that, just like, it just also was at the bowl, which was awesome, you know?

And I saw her do a little version of what we saw in Seattle with Brandi Carlile, but this really, I heard, was like, her show. Unreal. She ran it. This was unreal. So in Seattle, I'll say like, in Newport and Seattle, the first two kind of Joanie comes out of not retirement, but comes out in this plane again, she seemed really kind of still recovering from her ailments and illnesses and Brandi Carlisle doing an incredible amount of work to kind of

doing guide vocals and doubling Joanie and really keeping it moving. At the Bowl, this was Joni's show. She felt healthy and robust and she was in beautiful voice and the set list was incredible because it was all like my favorite Joni. It was all like 80s and 90s Joni Mitch. It was like Hegira and she played half of Hegira. She played songs off of Mingus off of dog eat dog She played three songs off of

Off of night ride home, which is like a 90s album that I love Incredible song list she played some hits but not nearly as many as I think people wanted. It was a absolutely stunning show And just great and her archives have continued to be show. Um, and just great. And her archives have continued to be, uh, releasing. There was a great box set recently of live era Joanie recordings from the asylum years and, and beyond. There's great stuff in there. Um, I saw Destroyer, uh, Dan Behar from, uh, new pornographers and, you know, of course, destroyer. Can I ask you a question about Joanie? When we were in Seattle, it felt to me like that concert was being taped.

We saw drones, we saw many things. Any word on that. Cameron Crowe, so that's Cameron Crowe. Cameron Crowe has been making a Joni documentary for years. Okay, got it, so this is part of a larger. He was shooting this as well at the Bowl, I believe. There was cameras all over the place. So I'm assuming that all of that footage

is for his documentary. That's my assumption, I could be wrong. Maybe there's something else going on or multiple things going on. But I do know, and I did see him in Seattle. So I know he's still doing that. And at the time of the taping, as I just Googled him, just a few hours ago, he had his third baby.

Cameron Crowe? Yep, at 67 years old, had his third baby. Wow, wow, wow. His first with his girlfriend. And yeah, there he is. Oh my God. There it is. Holy cow.

Third kid out there. Yeah, there you go. Good work, good work, Cameron Crowe. So yeah, so in the Destroyer. Destroyer, incredible show at the Lodge Room here in Los Angeles, which I love, beautiful room. I went to the Terragram Ballroom a couple of weeks ago.

Love that venue. Love that venue. Love that venue. Great folks who work there. And I saw the incredible guitar player, M. Du Mokhtar, who is a Nigerian guitar player, desert blues kind of guitar player, just shredding guitar solos over driving rhythms. Fantastic show. Got to meet him briefly and was absolutely fascinating.

Super interesting guy to talk to. I am a big fan of The Destroyer and I am bummed that I missed that. I don't go to sing concerts anymore. I feel like it's, I'm so bummed. Well, there's some good ones coming up. I also went and saw last week, just before we had our shows at Largo, Mary Latimore, who I saw in London,

had a show at Largo where she played duets with her mom, and it was incredible. Who also plays harp. So it was two harps on stage. It was stunning. The show was phenomenal. The way that I heard that show described was really amazing.

They said that normally in a show that is a little quieter, inevitably you'll hear the cough, the rapper, whatever it is, like those things that kind of take you out of it. And our friend Michael was like, it was deadly silent and everyone was in a full trance enjoying the music. He said it was never had been, and this is a person who works at Largo,

that never has he seen a show where everyone was so locked in on the same page. It was, he's right, that's how I felt. It was, everybody was like completely engaged and wrapped by the show. It was, it was so beautiful and you know, it is quiet. So you have to be quiet to listen to it and to hear it. And it was so beautiful and so moving.

The show itself was fantastic and also so like lovely to see Mary interacting with her mom. And her mom was just a hilarious character and was wonderful. And the mom played songs by herself. Mary played some songs by herself, and then they played songs together. It was just a fantastic show.

I loved it, loved it, loved it. And just for people who might be in Los Angeles, I think this is probably out there already, but Mary is gonna be doing a residency at Zebulon in Frogtown in January. So I think you can see, you'll have, I think, a bunch of opportunities to see her play, which is, I really urge you to avail yourself

of the opportunity to see her as much as you can, because quite often, every show, she has different guests. She's like one of music's great collaborators in that she is constantly bouncing off of other people, an accordion player, a guitar player, all sorts of different stuff, which leads to such different avenues of exploration. So fantastic experience going to see Mary Lattimore. I have to say, you know, I met a guy in a band and I think we were talking about this

maybe backstage a little bit. I also want wanna recommend the Wolves of Glendale, which are a funny band, but I know that that's a hard- But they're a band band. They're a band band. They play great music, their songs are great. They're on tour right now. Check them out online if you wanna check out a song. I'd say start with The Gym and then see what you think.

But they are on tour, and I just met them right before they left tour tour and they told me, Ethan, one of the members of the band said, you know, I just watched Trap and I got to listen to your episode before I left and I said, well, you better be careful because, you know, you're playing a lot of these gigs. There might be a butcher out there for you.

It might be a trap. Yeah, and I think- Oh, that's funny. I think that we're gonna be in D.C. on the same night as them, so we wanted to meet up and say hey. Oh, that's great. I met some of them, they played at,

when we were picketing at Paramount one day, they came down, sat up and played. And it was, I had no idea, they were great. Everybody was so excited they were there and so excited they were playing. It was a blast, they probably played for 30 minutes while everybody was walking in the big circle. And it was awesome, they were there and so excited they were playing. It was a blast. They probably played for 30 minutes while everybody was walking in the big circle. And it was awesome.

They were great. I got to meet them very briefly. Yeah, really funny guys, really, really funny guys. And also just fun. Like that's the thing. Sometimes I feel like music takes a backseat when you have funny comedy band, right? And this doesn't happen like that.

No, I agree. That can be often the case, which is the jokes come first. And these guys are for real musicians. This is not a joke band. This is a rock, an indie rock band that happens to be clever and funny. I love it. There's a new Yasmine Williams album out

that I cannot recommend enough. I think it's fantastic. And then Daryl Johns, who I'm like so obsessed with from a song he put out like two years ago. This guy has only had like one song on Bandcamp for years that I was obsessed with. And then finally he's got a new album out. And it's so far the tracks I've heard are great. By now the album is out, but as of this recording, it has yet to come out.

There's only a couple of tracks and they're fucking fantastic. So Daryl Johns, can't recommend that enough, I think super interesting. Great. There's a lot of great music happening right now. Jordy Greep from Black MIDI, the British post-punk band. Black MIDI has a solo album. There's new Waxahatchee. There's new Florist.

Come on guys, there's great. There's the new Joubi record, the LA Jazz Ensemble, absolutely fantastic record. Yeah. Porridge Radio, new music from Porridge Radio. New music from The Innocence Mission? What? A band that existed? A Christian folk rock band from my college years have just put out a new record? Come on. Great work. Wow. I love all this. You know, we've threatened it, but I think that people have been trying to keep up with all your recommendations. There is a lot of Spotify lists.

If you go onto our Discord, you'll see people are trying to- I gotta figure this out, how to make a, I wanna make a playlist, but I- You just give it to me and I could get it, just write it up and I'll just do it. And I'll just, I'll label it as that and that will be it. Just tell me what you want on it and I will show it to you

before I do that. Look, I know that it's a couple weeks out now, but how are you feeling about John Dutton on Yellowstone? Jason, a lot of people are, is he dead? We don't know, I mean, I think we're all. What's gonna happen? Are Yellowstonians, what's gonna happen? You know, it's... What's... Oh, are Yellowstonians... What's gonna happen? I mean, it looks like he...

Look, it looks like he killed himself. But I know that John Dutton is not a guy who's gonna kill himself. It's not how he's gonna go out. Ah. I don't know. I'm so curious. I hope it's a in the shower thing. A very...

Oh, it's a who killed JR? Yeah. That would be incredible if this new like Dallas-esque Western soap opera did a full on dream season. That would be awesome. I am, I feel so badly for Kevin Costner. I was joking about this the other day because he, look, he took a very big shot and made this,

you know, Horizon, this eight hour epic and God bless. Like, and you know what? Like, I, you know and made this, you know, horizon, this eight hour epic, and God bless. Like, and you know what? Like, I, you know, I think, you know, we should be making big, we should take our shots, we should make our things. I don't know if you're reading the room 100% right by making an eight hour long epic Western, but I will say this, the way in which he left Yellowstone

as if, buddies, fuck yourself, I did it. I am gonna be on another level and it's like. It's so crazy to me too because it's like unquestionably Yellowstone allows him to make Horizon at this level and on this scale. You know? And you leave, it's, you know, not to recall one of our old films, It's the Jade issue.

It's our friend from NYPD Blue. He's David Caruso. David Caruso. He's Caruso-ing this all the way. I mean, and no one ever learns. Caruso did get back. He got back on the track, but man oh man. Did he?

Did he what, on CSI Miami? Yeah, I mean, that is, I mean, how many seasons did he do that? I mean, I think he probably did a bunch. It's my gosh. Yeah, you must've, it's always one of those things that surprises me. Like I remember I was talking to Ted Danson at one point, and I knew that Ted Danson was on, was on CSI.

And I was, I said to, I said to June on the way home, I was like, I wonder how many seasons Ted Danson was on CSI? I think it was like a season or two. And I Googled it,, I was like, I wonder how many seasons Ted Danson was on CSI? I think it was like a season or two. And I Googled it, and it was like seven years. He was on, like, it was, I'm gonna double check. He was on, no, 84 episodes. He went from 2011 to 2015.

So four seasons. Yeah, okay, well. Not bad, not bad. Plus damages. And I think he did a, and he did a spinoff. So four seasons. Okay, yeah, okay, well. Not bad, not bad. Plus damages, plus, I mean like. And I think he did, and he did a spin-off. CSI Cyber. Oh wow, well I didn't know he was on Cyber. Yeah, he did CSI, I mean, as I'm saying,

he did Cyber as well. Yeah, you know, this is, this is, we don't even know what these people are up to. Two seasons of that, two seasons of Cyber. That's ab, really? That's, I mean, that is the golden age right there, when a CSI could support two seasons of Cyber. Like, that's it. We can't do that anymore.

Michael Irby is on Cyber. Uh, you know, you got a bunch of... Van Der Beek, Cyber. Uh, Peter McNichol, Cyber. Peter McNichol? Yeah, Patricia Arquette, Cyber. From Ghostbusters? I mean, this is what we're talking about. I mean, it does seem that Ted comes on in seasonol's Cyber. Peter McNichol? Yeah, Patricia Arquette's Cyber. From Ghostbusters? I mean, this is what we're talking about.

I mean, it does seem that Ted comes on in season two of Cyber, so. Okay. Wow, wow, wow. I'm gonna, since we were talking about things to listen to, I'm gonna throw in a new podcast into the mix. One of my favorite long running music podcasts is the great KCRW podcast, Lost Notes.

This new season of Lost Notes is all about groupies. So it's all about the groupies seen in the late 60s, early 70s, LA groupies, like wild, crazy stories. I'm also at the same time watching the MTV three-part documentary about like the 80s hair metal era of the whiskey and the sunset strip. Oh, I love that. So those two are overlapping quite a bit

in kind of just straight insanity. Fantastic. I wanna call out, well, you know what? Just because it's a podcast, and we could talk about the other part of this podcast in a second I will say that I have been loving the penguin on HBO My friend Amy Nicholson. She hosts the companion podcast. Oh cool to the penguin show and

Wow It was it's been a great like I I've never really done that where I've been able to time up my watch. That's one of my favorites. Great way to do it. That's one of my favorites with either, and it's usually either with Chris and Andy on the watch. Oh, right. They do a bunch of that.

Yeah. Or with Mallory and Joanna on House of R. Mallory Rubin and Joanna Robinson are just the two of the greatest in the biz. And then I also will listen to Joanna Robinson and on the Prestige TV podcast where they've been talking about, you know, so all three of those cover shows that I watch. So I'm watching Slow Horses. So not only, of course, I love,

it's one of my favorite shows. But so then I'm also listening to all of the podcasts that are covering those episodes. Or Bad Monkey or whatever. Agatha, you know, all of those podcasts will then have watch along or not watch along rather, you know, as episodic breakdowns of those episodes. I gotta get into more of that stuff.

All right, well, Jason, this is great talking to you. We will reconvene in just a little bit. All right, I hope you enjoyed that Just Chat, but now it is finally time to announce our next movie. We're gonna be going from a shoddy cop story to a body swap Cory. How do you like that alliteration? Next week we will be doing the 1989 body swap comedy, Dream a Little Dream, starring Corey Feldman, Corey Haim, Piper Laurie, Meredith Salinger, and Jason Robards. Here is a breakdown of the plot. An accident swaps the minds of a married older man

and a teenager chasing his dream girl. Yes, Rotten Tomatoes gives this film a 9% score on the tomato meter, and Roger Ebert from the Chicago Sun-Times wrote, "'The plot is a disorganized mess,' and the director, Mark Rocco, seems unable to tell even this simple-minded story with any degree of clarity. Dream a Little Dream is an aggressively unwatchable movie and I

have to say Roger is not wrong, but at the same time I found it to be interesting. I mean it's long, it's too long. What I recommend you watching this, hmm. Maybe on a faster speed, I don't know. You gotta watch a little bit. But now listen to this bizarre trailer for Dream a Little Dream. Now, this trailer lives in my brain because I saw it a bunch as a kid

and it really kind of got me by surprise when I actually watched the movie because the trailer does not reveal that this is a body swap movie. So when I actually watched the movie because the trailer does not reveal that this is a body swap movie. So when I was watching this movie, I thought I was gonna see a Cory, Cory movie. And no, it's a Cory Robards movie. Anyway, take a listen to the trailer.

Sir, this is my IOU homework, IOU homework, sir. Bobby and Dinger had high school down to a science. Perfection. Until Bobby decided to steal Miss Wright from Mr. Wrong. Man, it's a party! Who's got the chips? Now one false move and their history. Jason Robards, Corey Feldman, Piper Laurie, Meredith Salinger, Harry Dean Stanton, Corey

Haim. Hello, honey. Dream a Little Dream, rated PG-13. Starts Friday at a theater near you. Dream a Little Dream is available to stream on Amazon Prime Video, Freebie, Tubi, and the Roku channel, as well as Plex. In addition, I encourage you to check out Hoopla Canopy in Libby, which are digital media services offered by your local public library that allow you to consume movies,

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