How Did This Get Made? - Last Looks: The Oogieloves

Episode Date: December 2, 2022

Special guest June Diane Raphael joins Paul to chat about their favorite holiday movies, spreading joy via a naked Tony Danza photo, and the TV shows they're currently loving. Plus, Paul answers listener questions on the Help Line, digs into Corrections and Omissions from The Oogieloves, and announces next week's movie. Places people, it's time for Last Looks!Paul's Picks:Planes, Trains, and Automobiles Deleted ScenesScroogedJune's Picks:Mixed NutsGhislaine Maxwell: Filthy Rich"Party Forever" episode of Scare TacticsBeats Flex HeadphonesBuy Drop Dead Fred LIVE on Vinyl: https://hdtgm.bandcamp.com/Follow Paul on Letterboxd: https://letterboxd.com/paulscheer/HDTGM Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmPaul’s Discord: https://discord.gg/paulscheerCheck out Paul and Rob Huebel live on Twitch (https://www.twitch.tv/friendzone) every Thursday 8-10pm ESTSubscribe to The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael here: listen.earwolf.com/deepdiveSubscribe to Unspooled with Paul Scheer and Amy Nicholson here: listen.earwolf.com/unspooledCheck out The Jane Club over at www.janeclub.comCheck out new HDTGM merch over at https://www.teepublic.com/stores/hdtgmWhere to find Jason, June & Paul:@PaulScheer on Instagram & Twitter@Junediane on IG and @MsJuneDiane on TwitterJason is not on Twitter

What's June Diane Rayfield's favorite Christmas movie? Why do pillows sleep all day? And how to get your kid off being addicted to Oogie Loves? All this and more on today's very important, Last Looks, everybody places its last looks. This is the last love But Paul's such a stand-up guy He lets us all say goodbye

Till last week's film, see you later Gotta go, cheerio, ta ta, for now, farewell Hello all you milkshake suckers, silent bongo players and horny vacuum cleaners. I'm your host Paul Shearer and welcome to How to This Get Made's Last Looks where you get to voice your issues on Oogie Loves in The Big Balloon Adventure. You hated this movie and I can't wait to hear more reasons why. Today, we have a very special guest on the show,

the one, the only, Miss June Diane Rayfield joins me for Just Chat. Jason couldn't be here, so it's June and I. We go dark, we go light, we go weird. Stay tuned for that. Plus, we're going to reveal next week's movie. And as always, I will try to solve your problems on Paul's Helpline. But first things first, a big shout out to Quinn for that amazing opening song. Thank you, Quinn.

We love these songs. If you have one for Last Looks, send them into HowToThisGetMadeatEarWolf.com, but keep them short. 15 to 20 seconds is best. Now, let's get into it. I know we talk a lot about movies, but there are bigger things out there. You got problems, let me solve them. It is now time for Paul's Helpline. Ooh, I love that neon sweatsuit.

Bring in the heat. OK, this one I truly love and I get. Christy, tell me your problem. Hey, Paul, I'm looking for some advice from you. I'm kind of worried that my husband and I have made a pretty big mistake. He watched Uzi Loves with our two kids who are six and three and they love it. So much that the younger one actually asked to watch it as like her comfort show and she's not feeling well, always being it too many times.

Is there hope for us yet any advice on how you can get through this? You appreciate it. Thanks again for coming to the train. You're awesome. Bye. Oh, no, Christy, I am so sorry. But this is what I was talking about. There's not much difference between the Uzi Loves and the shit I've been watching. I watch so many episodes of Thomas the Tank and I hate that show.

I hate it with a passion and it's humorless and not like it's devoid of humor is what I mean. And so what I'm saying is at least there's something to look at in Uzi Loves. I don't think it's that bad. Yes, you made a mistake. It might be a comfort thing, but know this. The one thing I know about kids is they grow out of it. What they like right now, they'll be done with in a month.

Start putting on some holiday movies and they'll forget about it. You'll be watching Home Alone two 10 times a day in no time. Christy, God, God bless you. You're doing the Lord's work and I hope you bought it because if you're renting it multiple times, that's another fallacy. Once your kid likes them and buy it, spend that money. Jun used to rent it over and over again. Why are you renting it?

It's not like we're not in the old days of like blockbuster. Just buy this shit, 19 bucks. Not saving any money by spending 3.99 on it. Anyway, thank you, Christy. Good luck. Let me know if you go insane. If you do, we will raise some money for you to get you out of that mental institution. Now, I will say this. You're not alone because Alex in Michigan also is dealing with this.

So, Alex, I see you. I hear you and you know what? This is what you get. You like adult podcasts. You want to bring your kids into it. It's your fault. You know what? Treat this movie like you treat an R rated film people.

So, if you have not watched it yet and you have young kids, don't think, oh, we could do a two for one. I can enjoy it on one level. They can enjoy it on another. No, you're opening up a Pandora's box there. So, Alex and Christy, I'm sorry. All right. So, now last week, I asked you to call in with some Thanksgiving gripes. We got a lot of incoherent calls from very intoxicated listeners which I loved.

I did love. I could not air them, but I loved them. But luckily, a couple of you kept your shit together. This was from an anonymous caller. Take a listen. Hey, Paul and team. Happy holidays. Everybody hope all as well.

You said to send some information about venting regarding life like personal things. So, I thought I'd vent a little bit to you. Tomorrow is to spend lunch with my dad's side and dinner with my mom's side. And my mom hates the dad's side, but dad gets frustrated by my mom's side. And I get to sit in the middle of all of it in which I get to be frustrated by absolutely everybody. My general means of getting through this is to just enjoy some wine and try to keep calm. But if you have any suggestions about how to get to the holidays, doing family, and all their bullshit, I would love to hear it.

And that's which begins everybody. Thank you so much. Now, I couldn't quite put this together. You're having two separate meals. How do you deal with it? That's the best of both worlds, my friend. You don't have to deal with it. You know what?

I think what you say whenever you do it, because that is how I grew up my entire life. My parents were separated. I will go to my dad's or go to my mom's. I'd spend different time with them. My dad never talked about my mom. My mom occasionally talked about my dad. But you could just nip it in the bud. You know what?

Say, you know what? We're having such a good time. Let's forget about them for today. Let's just pretend they don't exist. Like create a game about it. You know, redirect is what I've learned also as a parent. Redirect attention to something else. You know, find something else to talk about.

I think the thing that is so hard is to not that you have to pick a side, but your parents sometimes when they're not being respectful of you want you to pick a side so you could either lean into that and just pick a side and just get it because basically all you want to do is get them off the topic. So redirect it, agree with them or just make a rule. We'll make a rule that makes us all happy. We're never going to talk about them or pretend they don't exist for today. Just for today.

Maybe that will work. Let me know how that goes. Anonymous. Next call John from Ohio. Hey Paul, this is John from Ohio. I'm calling to let you know, ask you a question about Thanksgiving. I recently found out a member of my extended family. Very nice young man, brilliant, great family man.

Just sold a business for $100 million. Now I'm not sure that everybody knows I can handle that sort of information. Some people in the family maybe not. Should I not say anything or if I'm sitting beside and maybe say something like these potatoes are delicious, I could probably eat like a hundred million plates of them. Let me know. Thanks, Paul. Happy Thanksgiving.

Whoa. Wow. Now I kind of want to know what this company is. No, you should not do that potato thing. Don't be a jerk. You want this guy to take you on vacations with you or do something fun. What I would suggest is you don't say a goddamn word, but you could corner him and politely say, oh my gosh, I'm so proud of you.

That's amazing. Let me know if I can run an interference for you with the family or you're telling them or whatever. But I say, play dumb to your family. You don't want to have that information. Let them come to you. You can watch them get all spun out about it. But I would say to that person, just be kind of cool about it and take them on the side

and just get in his good graces, my goodness, this guy's 100 million bucks. Get a good stocking stuff or gift from him or something. Anyway, we are always looking for more Paul's help line voicemails. If you need some advice or second opinion about anything, please give me a call. Now here's the thing. The holidays are coming up and we just rereleased our babes in Toyland episode where I got into a fiery debate with June and Jason over whether or not a sled is a good gift. Okay, I still believe that the sled is just something your family should have.

I don't think it should be given as a gift, but be that as it may. I want you to call in and rant about the worst gifts you've ever received for Hanukkah, for Christmas, for whatever you're celebrating. Let me know and we will determine here on air if you are right about it or wrong about it. All right, I want to hear from you about these gifts. Just give me a call at 619, P-A-U-L-A-S-K, that's 619, Paul, ask people, if you have not heard, how did this get made is going to vinyl?

That's right. We are making a limited edition of Bespoke Piece of Art. How did this made is making a Drop Dead Fred LP. That's right. It's a double album, a double vinyl album of our episode remastered by our audio engineer Devin Bryant to Crystal Clear Perfection. Now you can own this amazing piece of art, one-time pressing, that is it. Just go to bandcamphtgm.bandcamp.com to order it.

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It's beautiful. It's done so, so well. You can pre-order it now and you can actually print out a PDF that can stuff in someone's stocking so they can have that for whatever holiday, well, if it's a stocking Christmas, but you want to give it as a Hanukkah gift, it will probably come in May, I believe that's what we're talking about. So it's going to be a little bit of time because we don't even finish this fundraise until the end of December.

So head to hdtgm.bandcamp.com to find out more or just to our website and we will tell you everything that you need to know about the very first, how did this get made, vinyl LP. Oh, it's gorgeous. Gatefold cover and everything. All right. Coming up, we will read your questions, comments and concerns on Oogie Loves. But first, to get in the Oogie spirit, here's a fun deleted scene from the episode where

Jason and June dive deeper into their hatred of this movie. We'll be right back after this. Now, June, when did it turn for you? Because when I left you, you were enjoying yourself in shock. Look at me. I was, well, first of all, I had, I had just finished a venti iced coffee frappuccino and it was coursing through my veins and I was ready for something and I was bracing and I thought, you know what, you told me, Paul, that it was better than what Jason said last

night because when Jason came backstage, he said he watched 15 minutes of it and is the worst thing he's ever seen. I watched 15 to 20 minutes of it a couple of nights ago and basically had a panic attack. I had to take a Xanax and put myself down. Yeah. He's like, I feel not safe. This is going to be so difficult. So I thought, you know, I'm trying a new way of being, I'm trying to approach things with

a lot of positivity. Leave with love. I'm trying to leave with love. And so I put it on and lead with oogie love and I just thought, you know what, this, this is the moment you find yourself in June, like go fully in to what they're asking you. The movie's asking me to dance and I did. You know, I did, but they're like, why wasn't this movie a half an hour shorter? Why wasn't this movie a half an hour long?

Why was it? Why was it a movie? Why was it a movie? Why was it this movie a 22 minute episode of, why wasn't this movie a YouTube short? Last week, we talked at length about oogie loves in the big balloon adventure. We had questions and we might have even missed a few things. Here's your chance to set us straight. Fact check us if you will.

It is now time for corrections and omissions corrections and omissions. We ain't rocket scientificians a swing and a miss now somebody's pissed we took a crack but it weren't a fact now the fans are going to yell at us corrections and omissions yes. Thank you Damon Gentry for that amazing theme. We are going to the how to this get made discord if you're not there. You're not anywhere. Dr. Guts 10.03 writes I didn't understand why they had each of the celebrities give the oogie loves a gift for Shluffy only then to have them show up at the end via the windy

window and blast Shluffy in the face with their own signature presence. That seemed unnecessarily redundant. Not to mention that all the gifts the celebrities gave seem to be better presents than the balloons themselves which undercut the importance of getting the balloons in the first place sentient or not well look how are you supposed to know okay the oogie loves spent money on sentient balloons they thought that was super important little did they know that other people got better gifts I mean that happens to us all right you think you got a perfect gift and then your friend gets your other friend a better gift and you're

like oh shit I feel like a real shit bird right now they didn't know the oogie loves are doing their best stop trying to shame them for giving sentient balloons by the way sentient balloons are tough to beat I mean personally anyway why do they show up twice well because you had to get your money's worth I mean we know. Django writes Gooby is shocked every time they get a balloon and a face appears on it after the first one wouldn't you just expect it well no Django there's a rule a rule is the first time it's odd the second time it's a coincidence in the third time it's a pattern that's like a classic rule of comedy and so Gooby is I think after the third one then

you have a point but you know what for the first three this is this is comedy at its highest point Vitrio writes I'm just gonna have to give my theory on why Shluffy is shown sleeping all day because pillows only work at night or as you would say pillows only work at night also by the way let me just call this out brilliant Vitrio brilliant what you just came up with there also J Edgar Hoover is the former head of the FBI which makes it all the more interesting that in the movie has him keeping tabs on what the Oogies are doing with an all-seeing window whoa Vitrio you are digging deep you sure you're not the screenwriter of this Sean McBee replies to Vitrio by saying so I looked up

the original PBS show my bedbugs that Oogie loves stole its characters from and I learned why Shluffy the pillow is sleeping all the time the my bedbugs character was named snoozy why would that be changed to the nonsensical name Shluffy well probably for copyright reasons is one of the most baffling things that this movie has done well yeah no it's not it really is I imagine it's just copyright because if they took snoozy maybe they could take one character out all the characters I like Shluffy better Shluffy is weird Sarah Land chimes and actually Shluffy isn't a nonsense word it's actually take on a Yiddish word of Shluffy to sleep or nap but apparently commonly used to tell kids to go to sleep by

the way Melissa Roush from Big Bang Theory played my wife on Black Monday and that was actually a little term that we used together in the scene that many people responded to so I have a connection with Shluffy and especially used in that way so thank you Sarah Land for illuminating this a little bit further but now let's go to the phones I'm calling from Washington DC and I'm sorry I have to go as no name because I'm mentioning one of my kids so 10 years ago before Ubi loves came out I was one of a few moms who were invited to go to a pre-release event where we met the writer and director and heard all about how this movie came to be it was very awkward having to watch the movie with them

in the room with us especially because I could not get my kids to participate at all and although it was not a great experience there is one thing that has stuck out to me for the past 10 years that is my favorite part when Tony Braxton steps out of that plane with that pink dress on my five-year-old daughter sitting next to me went oh which was basically one of many signs leading her to be the out and proud kid that she is today thanks for everything you guys do. Finally a positive thing from the Ubi loves I love that that's amazing what what a great look just for that this movie goes up another star and it's already a four star so five

stars that's awesome to hear and look you know what I get it next up Natalie from Detroit Hi Paul this is Natalie I just got home from the live show in Detroit I've got no mission and a comment first comment is I think Detroit deserves a little bit of credit I think that one other crowd can boo you about the movie choice and then also still do that God awful dance when you play the clip about doing the Ubi dance and then the omission that I wanted to go on about is and we almost got to it but we're talking about how the cook at the milkshake palace or whatever it is is a cow but I guess my question and one thing we didn't talk about is where's that milk coming from all right that's it thanks bye oh Natalie

that's gross I know it's all puppets and stuff but you that now I'm grossed out unless it's like one of those M&M situations this is a bit that I'm obsessed with but no one finds funny but me I love these M&M commercials where like they're standing neck the M&M's with the feet and the hands and the arms are standing next to a bowl of regular M&M's and they're essentially like presiding over genocide but like why are they I can't even do the bit that I love I am I think there's a bit here and I can't quite find it but I maybe this cow has a bunch of cows in the back hooked up to some robotic udders is what I'm saying or some other pumping machine which now I'm even more grossed out stop grossing me out

Natalie from Detroit next up leave from Ontario hey Paul this is Lee calling from Ontario Canada and I had kind of a wild theory about the Oogie Loves movie and the filmmakers and I wanted to run it by and get your opinion so do you think the possibility exists that the filmmakers of the Oogie Loves were trying to achieve in real life what the evil Silver Shamrock company from Halloween 3 season of the witch was trying to achieve aka using children's programming to you know kill a bunch of kids and adults possibility maybe do we know that the filmmaker has Irish heritage I'm just saying it might be worth looking into I know nobody died watching this movie but it seemed to unnaturally scramble a lot

of people's brains and Jason specifically so I just wanted to throw that out there I think it's a possibility I love the podcast I was actually at the governor Gabby show you guys did in Toronto and it was legit one of the best nights of my life you're actually standing very close to me up in the balcony asking somebody a question and I was gonna ask a question but I chickened out at the time your your your mustache at the time was very okay thanks again much love to you June and Luke's take care Lee I wish she asked your question you're a smart guy and yes my mustache was intimidating look we don't know if people died from this movie because it wasn't you know maybe it wasn't documented

you know that that's the beauty of it you know I do believe this is a spiritual successor to Halloween 3 season of the witch you didn't have to even tell me after I hear Silver Shamrock I'm no idiot but I love that idea this is the ring this is Ringu for us the Oogie Loves you watch it and seven days later your brain gets fried all right back to the discord Johnny unusual writes Paul claims there are two Oogie Loves sequels and a TV show but I can't find any evidence of the sequels or TV show besides my bedbugs which came earlier Dr. Guts follows up by saying I believe the sequels and TV show were planned but never came to fruition here's an excerpt from a 2012 Entertainment Weekly article that discusses what Weisselman

wanted to do Weisselman is moving forward with two sequels the Oogie Loves and the Big Family Adventure and the Oogie Loves and the Big Holiday Adventure though he might reconsider whether to release them theatrically or straight to DVD additionally a TV series initially planned for 2015 will be moved up by at least a year to capitalize on the familiarity with the new characters the movie's backers remain committed to the brand it's about the long play not the short the financiers told me this chapter did not go well but it's a good story well clearly those backers pulled out because this was essentially a money laundering scheme right we found that out we believe that to be true I think so so yes I was wrong

about that but you know what in my hopes and in my heart of hearts I believe there's a script out there and I challenge you to find it find that script Mr. Grossam writes when I heard about the Oogie Loves producers plan to equip each movie theater with special VFX lights that sync around eyes to the movie I was reminded of another piece of film that required special equipment in order to be experienced as a creative team intended namely Fantasia despite being released in 1940 and having some technical positive reviews the impracticality of implementing a fantasy sound a new type of multi speaker sound system kept the movie as something of a financial flop until 1969 when they could remarket it in

the psychedelic drug culture so is Oogie Loves just waiting for its renaissance in 30 years will it be featured on unspooled yes it will but you know what we're not talking about these 3DX theaters I love this shit I'm all in on these movie theaters where they shoot bubbles and mist you and lightning strikes and the seats punch you I've I've been at the forefront I saw Fast and Furious 5 at Man's Chinese Theater in a D-Box seat now they have like D-Box theaters they're here in LA they're in New York I saw Mission Impossible Rogue Nation there when Tom Cruise getting punched in the belly I'm getting punched in the back when I saw Jurassic Park or Jurassic World I was on the raft waters hitting me

in the face the seat the seat moves it's the best experience we need to get Oogie Loves in there for a limited release I believe that that is a feature that no one wants but me but I love it so much Pecan Sandys writes so Paul mentioned that the IMDB parental guide listed severe language nudity violence and frightening intense scenes it was theorized that this was to protect other parents from watching this nonsense I just want to point out to what creative extent some of the parents went to with the details one warning says there is a scene where a character rips another character's eyes out of its sockets it's a long scene and very gross and gory for young kids the next one describes a scene where

a hot air balloon with multiple main characters inside crashes this is a very sad scene as the balloon quickly plummets to the ground the Oogie Loves hold hands and close their eyes one of them tries to say something but the balloon hits the ground and the explosion vaporizes them it's like they're creating a little Oogie Loves fan fiction to keep the parents and children safe from this atrocity good times oh my god that is amazing Pecan Sandys thanks for getting in there so many great corrections and omissions this week but there can only be one winner and I mean it's gonna be hard to pick right because we found the beauty of this movie with our anonymous caller from Washington DC we've

also fact checked some things that I never needed to get fact checked but I have to say the person who really brought it all together for me I think you already know where I'm going it is Vitrio Vitrio calling out the J. Edgar Hoover keeping tabs and pillows or pillows working at night are things I never even thought about so Vitrio you win nothing but this amazing song from Caleb Gillo hit it Caleb if you want to chime in with your own thoughts about the latest episode hit up the discord at discord.gg slash hdtgm or call us at 619 Paul ask coming up June will join me to chat about all the things that we are currently into it takes some dark turns I'm not gonna lie to you we'll be back people

every Monday how did this get made is pulling an old episode out of the vault and re-releasing it back into the rotation last week we started off the holiday season with our re-release of babes in toyland and this next week we are continuing this tradition with winter's tale with Andy Daly that's a really fun episode and I encourage you to go back and listen to the show when it was you know still finding its footing coming up on 12 years people burlesque is almost 12 years old so that means we're almost 12 years old now Jason unfortunately could not join me for just chat this week but our producers put a call into June's agent to see if she'd fill in and after lengthy negotiations for a chunk of just chats back

end profits June has graciously agreed to join us so in honor of June's hometown today just chats theme comes to us courtesy of Rob from Long Island by the way I'm also from Long Island so for both of us hit it Rob how are you June I'm okay how are you Paul good welcome to just chat normally it's Jason and I just chatting we talk about the things we like or into or watching what we want other people to watch and we don't often get a chance to come on the mini episode and just chat with us so I'm very excited to have you here and I know that you have a lot of things you want to chat about I mean obviously the holidays are here yeah and I'm realizing that this

is this was formerly known as pork chop yes okay so that's been rebranded rebranded recently we yes within like the last two or three times well we have guests on now Natasha Legeros here I mean there's a lot of stuff I could tell you off air okay I just didn't recognize for a second I was like wait what show am I on yeah you're on just chat it's not just chat which is a part of last looks formally the mini episodes we're gonna land on what it is growing baby we're growing we're changing it every chance we get spin offs it's like when the boss spin off remember when Alyssa Milano and who's the boss her city friend came in and then they went to like modeling school and they spun that off into a brand

new show with Halle Berry you know I got to say I'm so glad we're talking about who's the boss because the chemistry between Judith light and Tony Danza was electric it really was we you know and this is fine that much nowadays you got to come on my twitch show the only who's the boss recap podcast live stream look it's not a joke we are getting into all this well I was very upset because if you remember when my father was in the ICU and very very ill you had taped up a photo of Tony Danza make it yeah very large dick on that man this is beautiful dick beautiful black and white photo of Tony Danza's large dick and he's so happy he's like oh you caught me with my dick out like he he's not embarrassed

about it but he's also like not trying to show it off I think that's what makes it so fun because feel like it's not it's not a candid like oh they got it's it's not like oh we caught him unaware it's but it's you caught him and in the next 10 seconds he's happy it did it's like the way that they react in jackass when you hit him in the balls it's like oh good one it's a good one and that's I think there's me but yes I did put that up in your taped it to you know it we had taped up while my dad was recovering and going through a very serious illness we had taped up pictures of his grandkids pictures of his children you know so that when he was lucid and awake he could remind he could be reminded

of what he was fighting for what he was undergoing and what it was all for and so it was a beautiful little collage we had put together printed out photos brought photos with us and then amongst them among them there was that picture of Tony Danza and when my dad woke up he saw it you know and the nurses saw it everybody saw it and he said to me you know again just barely barely hydrated barely able to speak he said to me Paul's really demented with such like resignation you know just like I also conjured dad to be on my Sylvester Stallone podcast which is like a post first birth project that I did where it was the Sylvester Stallone show where he never appeared on the show and then he had to talk to me about stopping to

do the show and I gave him very little background to remember this bit I don't remember this oh yeah your dad was a full guest on the Sylvester Stallone podcast where he said you gotta stop doing this I think I I tried to record with him under the guise of tell me what you remember about Sylvester Stallone and then he got irritated with me it was all in on the bit your dad was your dad was ready to roll with it and then give a point he made some podcast appearances we're going into the holidays now and I think that like what is your perfect holiday movie do you have a perfect holiday movie I think you know what that is I know and I want to say it on wreck I want to say it on record snuts nor Efron written and directed I guess

I believe she directed it Steve Martin starring Adam Sandler she directed all of a sudden I'm questioning that and she did I think she did yes it's a great cast oh god everyone loves a Christmas comedy Wilson and a suicide prevention hotline it's a movie that you read like you cannot be reasoned with that it's not the best is in this movie it's amazing live Shriver Adam Sandler young Adam Sandler Juliette Lewis I mean it is absolutely Anthony La Paglia Anthony La Paglia giving a wonderful performance everybody's just at the top of their game not one of the movies that you want to like pop in but you always want to pop it in I absolutely love it it's so comforting to me it's so so dark it's a weird it's not

though it's it's like a play I'm sure she wrote it as a play and it but it I do think there's enough movement in the movie when you know they're running through this the Venice boardwalk and oh god I just love it so much and you're right much movement that the barely just stays in one room in an elevator no one of the funniest bits and you laugh at it is Leia of Shriver when he walks out and we we realize where he's been living his performance in it is just next level he is one of my favorite performers because he's always bringing it like he does like I feel like a progressive ad and even in that I'm like wow well this is pretty good is so strange and so realized it's really remarkable and

the dance sequence he has with Steve Martin is one of the best things I've seen in my my whole life so yeah it's it's it deals with a suicide prevention hotline center that's about to be they're about to be evicted from their building and but it's so light and bright and wonderful I loved it well that's your favorite holiday movie well I just read an article today one of my favorite holiday movies is Scrooge the the Bill Murray film and yet we haven't seen it in years oh I watch it every year with who do you watch it I mean I thought you watch it with me I didn't watch it I haven't watched it in years a lot of times you are falling asleep you are you're listening you're listening to murder murder doc pots

no but I'm always up for a holiday movie yeah yeah I mean I've tried to suggest a few but even last night you're like let's watch that documentary and kiss slain Maxwell like I was like that's like a lane I was like let's watch these deleted scenes from planes trans automobiles because it's a new thing and I did watch them and you watch about two or three of them which are great by the way they basically unearthed John Hughes's vault and they got they unearthed it like herald over Vera like opening up they they just got access to all these extended scenes it's not not like it was lost and found but people have been begging for these scenes like they're we need to see the four hour cut and you never

need to see the four hour cut of anything the reason yes movies come in longer than they're intended to especially comedies because of beats and whatever these scenes are very very funny but you were like I could see it in your eyes you're like need to get back to that glane doc in the hall like let's put up the Christmas tree and watch the glane the glane doc and I started watching that last night I was like woof Merry Christmas give me a Knicks nuts well I had already been about 30 minutes into it so I was it I did want to see the end of it and then I woke up this morning well I don't know how good it was but I woke up this morning good you can't say it's a good yeah I woke up this morning

in a total and utter rage about Jeffrey Epstein and glane Maxwell you did and and here's how I know because your phone your phone was dead and you grabbed my phone and then what I saw on the search engine all I had was you I'm sleeping we've just gotten back from New York I'm still on New York time your bright-eyed bushy tail reading me the account of Jeffrey Epstein's death yeah beat-by-beat you know that fucking jail prison whatever the fuck it was yeah I'm very I'm very devastated for the victims that they that he didn't get his day in court and that he couldn't rot with his heart still beating for the rest of his fucking life in a prison cell I am I'm I'm absolutely enraged by it and now

I'm on some sort of watch list because the minute I tried to open an app to serve the G I just my my iPhone open just to like a flurry of glane pictures and I was like oh boy now I got this psycho now now I'm being watched why am I like her maniac and she is described in this movie as a psychopath and I think what I shared with you this morning I don't know how deep just chat goes we go deep okay but what I shared with you this morning is that the the terrifying thing to me about glane is I do feel that I would have been in my 20s teens really taken with that kind of woman and that she would have had a lot of power over me and that she would have made me feel special comfortable blah blah blah and so

seeing and reading about what she's what she did and how she made these girls children feel okay you know it's it's it's just horrifying cuz she really did she really did and again we don't go that deep normally but but I'm glad we got a chance to get a little get a little bit into it just now it's switching I don't know how to switch out of it that's really with her well no that's why I wanted to and I'm not done I'm after just chat is over I'm gonna go back in I've I watched about 20 minutes while I was packing and I'm gonna go back in and finish it up I do know she's been sentenced and I hope I think she got 20 years it sounds like but I mean I need to understand more about the charges etc but

I hope she fucking rats in hell okay I get it I get it I get it and look again so we're talking about the holidays are here poppin mix nuts follow it down with a glane Maxwell doc all the things that we're enjoying in the holidays now I do it was a big day in our house we do because today was the day are we decorated we did decorate everything and you are very upset with me because my grandma used to have these like wooden figurines these like Christmas Carol Charles Dickens themed wooden figurines I don't know how to describe them they are scary well if you've seen them I think some people do have a reference point for them they're the care the carolers right so all of them have their mouths wide

open in sort of a singing oh yeah maybe it's more of an oh you're right but they're called them what's their official what's a Christian name I don't know it there's a long name there's many dolls and they're all sold in these things and my grandmother left her house and she had literally 125 of these dolls to which I asked may I have a few and she said no the set cannot be broken up and she gave them to my one of my cousins who I loved dearly I don't want to take 125 dolls for my cousin but it also was like I don't think that he can display 120 I don't think anyone well display 125 but her point was like they're they they're telling a story together it wasn't even her point was I don't want to break up the set

as if they were a grouping of children it's like I can't separate the family like because then they'll grow up and the crazy thing was now I'm looking back on this and I'm like I don't think she was upset I don't think she was feeling like your cousins dolls wouldn't make sense if he had 120 you had five it wasn't that his hundred and twenty wouldn't make sense together it was that your five wouldn't make a lick of sense together like they would be chaotic they would they would have a home and yet be so homeless and then this is the issue that I have because now I express this to not not to you my lovely wife but to my parents yes and they all decide to buy these dolls for me that I don't really because long

story short you didn't get any of the dolls I didn't get the didn't get any of the the and by the way grandmother is living doing quite well ninety five years old yes but great you didn't get any of the dolls my grandma did a weird thing where she like did her will as like people say a living will she barters her stuff out and then we'll consistently ask for things back and then reassign them to other people the will is a will is kind like we're like most people get to be like well when I die this will be yours here she's like as I live I will determine who will keep these after I pass so it's a very different way to go it listen it is an amazing way to rule it really is but you didn't get the

dolls yes a lot of people have purchased these dolls for you now and we have more dolls than I ever thought we'd have now I didn't even want the here's the thing I didn't even want these dolls I only wanted the doll I wanted the doll the position now if you didn't want I know I remember I wanted those dolls you wanted those dolls because they were special sentimental sentimental dolls but you did want those dolls but the sentimental I didn't like it was like do you it's like I wanted something from my grandmother's house not like that you remembered yes it wasn't like you would take those dolls from anywhere right and but yet this position I'm forced into and now people don't understand how the dolls do funny

that you're that you are making fun of your grandmother because you told so so today the dolls came came out the dolls that people have purchased now over the last couple years since Paul did not receive and I do like to keep them in the Charles Dickens Christmas Carol world that's that's the world that I into so all of the dolls are fine I mean they're they're a little odd looking I'm not gonna lie but they're Christmassy and fine except for one well okay you have an issue with this because all right so I really wanted to tell tell the story I really want to explore the story of the carolers through Charles Dickens immortal classic the Christmas Carol and so we have like we have we have a Marley we have

a Scrooge we have a ghost of Christmas present and we also have a ghost of Christmas future which you think I've like gotten like some sort of satanic doll in the house okay once you explained it I said of course that's who that is but it's it is very frightening looking well most of them are British people you know very happily carrying hens or fish or looking happy caroling and this one character has no face he is completely covered in a cloak carrying a tombstone in his hand yes and Ebenezer Ebenezer Scrooge on the tombstone and he's faceless and with a heavy hood and close nice and made nice and made okay so the dolls were sitting on a cabinet last year and because they were all together in a big

clump I was able to hide but there I know they were positioned according to their story lines relating to each other and sort of way it's my I know I know I know but I was able in that setting to place the ghost of Christmas future in the back now yeah you're always hiding this guy well so this this morning part of the story it's a major part of the story this morning when the dolls came out we open the box with the dolls in them I said I had I did have a vision because a part of my Halloween decor that's gone over very well that people love to comment on is that I've taken our staircase because our staircase is a little there's a little bit of landing that comes out of the staircase so when you

walk in our front door you can actually eye level you can see so I put on Halloween different little figurines so here's a pumpkin here's a skull here's a crow well that's Halloween that's the time that's actually weird like getting into a lot of decorating well I wouldn't call that weird we're just decorating for Halloween so I had done that the last two years and to much success and then you say to me so I say to Paul I say oh my god let's have the dolls on the staircase each on that little landing piece all the way up the stairs and it came to me like from the beyond now Paul gets his his dolls out you know there's no other way to put it his dolls not my dolls here's a thing I don't they're they're my dolls by

default like they were given to me they weren't like I received them and now they're your dolls that's fine but they are your dolls I would say I have more of an attachment to the Christmas Village than the dolls I don't need any more dolls and I will say they're both yours you might love your Christmas Village more but that's they're both yours and now I'll say this one thing about this I do get upset like now as somebody who's saying they're not my dolls I mean they are my dolls technically I've been given them like I've been they've been forced upon me but I will say this when you buy me a doll that's out of the Dickens world I'm pretty pissed off at you because now I have a figure I had a I gotta figure

out how to get this non-brit this this is what this is where this okay so this came into play so I see as I'm putting finishing touches on the tree I see at the corner of my eye Paul has placed the murder doll directly in the middle of the stairs so that when you open the door it's an eyeline and as you know when you go to supermarkets targets like the products that are at eye level they pay for that placement like brands pay for that you know I blow in my mind no but okay but but I'm saying you gave you gave that fucking murder doll the death doll the prime was telling a story I was telling a story on the stairwell I mean the story it was it was leading up to that point it just happens to be the height level

of where he was at was where the story was just chatters ice I said to Paul I said no no there's no way know how this doll is staying right here we gotta push the doll either way down or way up and then Paul's telling me we can't we can't replace him with that little girl because she's got a long stocking or something no the young children are modern day children okay so his big thing is again much like his grandmother apple doesn't fall that far from the tree he's not willing to break up this set I'm not gonna I'm not gonna drop Kenzian with like 1950 I'm not gonna do it it makes a very big difference it makes it looks weird it their characters are not right I refuse I refuse it I refuse it it's

the same type of people who do these like these like Christmas villages and then all of a sudden there's like a Clark Griswold house in there no no no no no no no okay and I do got it I I respect the hell out of it Paul and I it is all only makes me love you so much more so I do think we came to somewhat of a compromise and we moved him around you don't seem thrilled with where he is but at least I didn't put an Americana doll in that area like not and not an American girl doll American this whatever this other thing is like I don't even know it's not really even that got to Santa's I don't need to Santa's I don't even want to Santa put another Santa away I don't want another Santa I don't need

to Santa's on the stairs we already have one we don't need to see I would I would actually I'm gonna put in a formal request either bookend or can we move that Santa why don't we put all the Dickens characters on the stairs and we'll take all of the Americana characters and put them somewhere else are there enough no no it's not because they are else the American ones don't look as good I can get into this more but I sound like they may make a documentary about me that you're gonna watch they may have to put me to jail at this point speaking of last thing I'll say because I know we got to wrap it up but speaking of dolls I don't know if you've talked about scare tactics I'm just chat oh my gosh well I was gonna set

you up for something else but please tell us this because I can't even know where this is going oh my god there is an episode of scare tactics where this one actor one of the best god he's fucking good but I had no idea I'd love to have him on just chat to talk about yeah this is a great idea I mean he's literally he's a star so I encourage his name is Jerry I encourage everyone to go to the episode of scare tactics where this actor plays you know the the mark is this woman who thinks she's going to cater a party and she shows up and this man this actor approaches her and he's like yeah I just my friends are inside and I just don't want you to be weird around them like just please they're very

wealthy they're very Jerry Lambert there he is they're very serious and I just don't want you to you know upset them and she's like oh okay okay he's like please just just be normal be cool and she walks into the room with him and there are mannequins everywhere just in different positions toasting talking to each other all mannequins and look on her face and she goes oh oh and he goes offer my guests some drinks please and it unfolds and it is one of and his acting in it is so fucking good and she realizes because he then says to her I'd love you to be one of my guests in the dinner party or something really fucking crazy and she runs out blah blah blah by the way I was scared yes you're on

scare tactics but Jerry Lambert gives the performance of a lifetime he also does the one where the wife is in the coma yeah he does all of all of the greats okay all of the classic and so does Lauren ash I know has now been on yeah many many things and so it's it's just wonderful to see our scare tactics cast doing so well out in the world because we just saw Jerry Lambert in Santa Claus's in the Santa Claus's on Disney plus and it was a thrill to see him out there the prank is called party forever and if you type in scare tactics classics party forever parts one and two classic by guests are all mannequins it oof so good yeah he's great wife and coma was another great one with him by the way

but anyway that's another man with dolls another man with with many many dolls and by the way I feel like all these things we just talked about all kind of come together perfectly so June thank you for joining me on just chat it's been a pleasure I love just chat I can't wait to come on again if you'll have me I would love to have you and I know that before we go for the holidays you have one product that you might have everybody about you don't have to give you a full sale but you want to at least just tell people about the beats flex oh yeah absolutely and I would love actually the easiest way to do this is it's I'm only releasing one product on my gift guide for for this Christmas and so and the holidays

so please head to my Instagram and I give two I posted two videos I might post another one so look out because I've been getting a lot of jam this is not this is not a paid ad this is not this is a true June Diane like I need like you you woke me from a slumber at once again to tell me I have to make a tic-tac about these beats flex and and I was a guy like headphones and no one's paying you they're the only thing that's on my gift guide this year and by the way I came home and I saw like we have 10 beat flexes here I told you I'm giving them out to everyone I care about this Christmas do I get one of those maybe wow all right it's an expensive stocking stuffer but they were on sale for

Black Friday so um see if you can get them I promise you you will not regret it and if you want more information head to my Instagram and uh you can watch my reviews well that's it for June I mean we really ran the gamut Jason and I you know our our our chats pale on comparison June the incomparable June Diane Raphael check her out on chick tech talk and make sure you listen chick chock chick talk which is where all the ladies make all their great vids um but also if you're not listening to the deep dive you are missing out on a show that I would love to listen to but I'm forbidden to hear um but everyone tells me how great it is now that we got oogie loves out of the way let's talk about next week's movie we

are going from oogie love to puppy love that's right next week we are watching the 2019 made for tv movie 12 pups of Christmas if you live in San Francisco you can come see us this weekend December 3rd we'll be there talking about this live here's a short breakdown of the plot our recently single canine therapist gets a new job had a dog gps locator company where her self-centered boss tasks her with finding homes for 12 puppies before Christmas this movie has zero views on rotten tomatoes so instead we'll turn to Amelia Copeland on letterbox who says I always try to find something nice to say about movies I watch because people worked hard on them but this seriously who the only redeeming feature about this movie are the dogs and it's

an insult to every single one of them that they had to be involved in this absolute atrocity listen to the trailer welcome to dog on you must be here we've been expecting you tell me what is it that a painan therapist does I help people and dogs learn to live better through nonverbal communication dogs are only happy if their owners are happy that's what go ahead and put you to work gonna need you to get rid of these little monsters by Christmas I think I'd like to tackle you or disdain for dogs no you can't have a company for dogs if you don't like them oh I love this movie June and I watch this on our own not even for the podcast I can't wait for you to see it you can watch 12 pups of Christmas for free on hulu to be in Pluto TV or you can rent it on

apple tv youtube or amazon I encourage you to check out hoopla and canopy which are digital media services offered by your local public library that allow you to borrow musics movies audiobooks ebooks comics and more for free that is it for the show remember to rate review us it helps and if you listen on apple podcasts make sure you are following us visit us on social media at hdtgm and for commercial free access to how did this get made in our entire archive and so much more sign up for such a premium for a free one-month trial use the offer code bonkers a big thanks to our producers scott sonny and molly reynolds our movie picking producer avril hally our engineer devin bryant in our publisher july ds we will see you next week for 12 pups of christmas