How Did This Get Made? - Last Looks: Trap

Episode Date: October 25, 2024

Jason and Paul answer your spooooooky Halloween-themed questions and chat about their favorite horror movies, childhood costumes, corn mazes, and play "F*ck, Marry, Kill" with slasher movie villains. ...But first, Paul dives into corrections and omissions from Trap, shares a bonus scene from our Trap live show, and announces next week's movie. Tix on sale for Philly live show on Nov 16th and holiday virtual live show on Dec 12th! Go to hdtgm.com for ticket info, merch, and for more on bad movies.Order Paul’s book about his childhood: Joyful Recollections of TraumaFor extra content on Matinee Monday movies, visit Paul's YouTube page: youtube.com/paulscheerTalk bad movies on the HDTGM Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmPaul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheerFollow Paul’s movie recs on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer/Check out new HDTGM movie merch over at teepublic.com/stores/hdtgmPaul and Rob Huebel stream live on Twitch every Thursday 8-10pm EST: www.twitch.tv/friendzoneLike good movies too? Subscribe to Unspooled with Paul and Amy Nicholson: listen.earwolf.com/unspooledSubscribe to The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael: www.thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcastWhere to find Paul, June, & Jason:@PaulScheer on Instagram & Twitter@Junediane on IG and @MsJuneDiane on TwitterJason is not on social mediaGet access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using the link: siriusxm.com/hdtgm.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What was Jason's favorite Halloween costume? Why is Spencer such a dumb, dumb, dummy? And what movie made Paul so freaked out that he got scared as an adult? All this and more on today's last looks hit the theme. How did this get made? Trash can fires and chicken splatter Starting out bad, now it's getting battered Jason Statham, Angelino Down at the lago is where I seen him
Starting point is 00:00:40 How did this get there? Told John Sheeran, Jason Seuss About to be monsters, about to puke To the land as was its mission And where the blood stood us is another question How did this get there? How did this get made? How did this get made?
Starting point is 00:01:12 What's up, my Lady Raven stans? It's me, your favorite uncle. Yes, your mother's brother. For those who find that a little bit confusing, Paul Scheer here to talk to you about all the things that we might have missed from the film Trap. Now Trap was a great film. There's no denying that. As a matter of fact, there might have even been a better title. Ghostbag from Discord thinks that the better title for this movie should have been That's So Lady Raven. Solid. I like that.
Starting point is 00:01:43 Okay. Anyway, thank you Ghost Bag for that title. Remember if you have an alt movie title or a tagline submit it to us on our Discord and we may, we just may read it on the air. People, welcome to Last Looks. So much coming up on the show today. We're gonna have your corrections and omissions. You know that, right?
Starting point is 00:02:01 We're even gonna have a deleted scene from our trap live show Jason is gonna join me to answer a ton of Halloween themed questions that you sent to us on social media and We'll get into stuff like what movie scared us when we were kids What's our favorite Halloween movies our favorite costumes? It's a real Halloween extravaganza and always, I will reveal the movie for next week's episode. But I gotta ask you a question, because you've asked us a lot. Paul, when are you gonna do another virtual live show? And the answer is we're doing it.
Starting point is 00:02:38 On December 12th, we are doing a holiday virtual live show. You can get your tickets right now. Just go to HDTGM.com. It is available to stream. It is available to watch later. There's no country restrictions. It is very nicely priced. So get your tickets.
Starting point is 00:02:56 It will never sell out. But if you get them now, they won't go up like the day or two before, which is the way that I think it kind of works. Anyway, so get your tickets for that holiday show and guess what? We're bringing back Jessica Sinclair for the holiday show because we have to.
Starting point is 00:03:10 I mean, we need our Crohn's in attendance. Plus, Philly, we're coming back to, this is a movie that takes place in Philly, Trap, right? I wish we would have saved it for Philly. Unfortunately, we didn't, but you can come out and see us in Philly and we will recreate everything that you need from Trap. We will have a butcher in our audience
Starting point is 00:03:28 at the Miller Theater on November 16th. And if you wanna just hang out with me and Jason, people like Nicole Byer and Chloe Trost and Lisa Gilroy and Carl Tartt and Rob Hubel and Seth Morris, come see Dinosaur. That is our improv show and we're gonna be in Boston and DC. All these tickets available at hdtgm.com. My book still available because it's a book.
Starting point is 00:03:53 And thank you so much for the amazing reviews I keep on getting. If people are finding it, it blows my mind. I just always wanted to say thank you to this audience for supporting it. It means a lot to me. Anyway, that's it for the plugs. Let's get into some corrections and omissions. Set us straight people. Fact check us if you will. But first, Bombay Beach Revival. Lead us in. I can't believe you missed something So I must correct you
Starting point is 00:04:26 And clarify what you omitted Can't believe you missed it All right, we're going to the discord GT75 goes I know this episode acknowledged that Spencer was dumb for getting kidnapped in the van, but it is even worse when we remember his story. When Lady Raven is talking to Spencer on the phone, he says that his captor asked him
Starting point is 00:04:54 to help jumpstart his car battery. When we see the video footage, Spencer doesn't have a car, the van doesn't have the hood up, and Josh Hartnett is in the cargo bay of the van. Um, How exactly was the situation? Convincingly presented dispenser as hey, my battery is dead. Could you give me a hand? Well GT 75 I'm gonna give M night the benefit of the doubt because here's what happened, right?
Starting point is 00:05:22 You got the butcher out there on the street with the van. He's like, oh my God, my fucking car. It's not starting. I gotta figure out how to get a jump. He calls over Spencer and Spencer was like, what's up? And he's like, ah, can you help me? And Spencer and him are looking at it. He's like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:05:38 I'm just gonna leave it here tonight. I'll probably get an Uber home. He closes the hood and he goes in the back of the, you know, in the van and is getting his, pretending to get his stuff. And he's putting it together. And Spencer's trying to be a nice guy. He's like, hey buddy, one quick second.
Starting point is 00:05:54 Can you just look at one thing? And then he gets him and then he pulls him in. So GT75, it does make sense. Wow, by the way, great correction on Mission GT75. Rocket Wesker, what do you got? Well, Lady Raven gives a monologue on stage about the importance of forgiving people and then asks the crowd to raise their hands in agreement.
Starting point is 00:06:13 Everyone in the crowd, except for Cooper, raises their hand. This is likely used to show that Cooper can never forgive the person who caused him so much pain and turned him into the butcher, his mother. Ooh, not even, just like, wow, giving me something to think about here. These corrections and omissions, better than I thought they would be.
Starting point is 00:06:36 Funfacts47 says, this movie never returned to the fact that Cooper lied about Riley recovering from leukemia so they could get backstage access. Nobody ever congratulated Riley on overcoming her illness, which would have confused her because she had no idea what they were talking about. It would have been really interesting
Starting point is 00:06:53 to see how Cooper would have responded when caught in his own lie. Well, I feel like everyone acted the right way. Honestly, I think everyone acted the right way. And then once he kidnapped Lady Raven, she's like, oh yeah, this girl doesn't have leukemia. Like I think at that point you'd have to be like, now the gig is up.
Starting point is 00:07:09 I don't think it was spread out around, but, um, I don't know. I don't think I would just like go up to a person if I wasn't told by them that they were recovering and congratulate them on their recovery. Maybe I, I feel like that's a little bit of separation of church and state. I feel like that's a little bit of separation of church and state. I mean, really the only person fooled was M. Night. Did M. Night tell the person backstage? I'm not even sure that he did.
Starting point is 00:07:32 I'm not sure that he did. Maybe that girl did say something. I don't remember, but she was great. Let's go to the phones. Katie, what do you got? Hey, Paul. So there was something mentioned in the movie a couple of times about how he was always
Starting point is 00:07:44 giving his wife jewelry. What do you got? Hey, Paul. So there was something mentioned in the movie a couple of times about how he was always giving his wife jewelry. And I think the first time they mentioned it, it was with Lady Raven in the family room. And it was kind of a way of him being such a good, attentive, caring husband. Like he was always giving her jewelry or he's bringing home gifts.
Starting point is 00:08:02 And my very first thought was, oh, he's robbing his dead bodies and bringing the jewelry home to his wife. That's disgusting. But also like, oh, that's a great character quirk, right? Like what a weird serial killer thing to do. And then they brought it up again. And I just, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:08:22 I just assumed that that's what it was. He was getting jewelry from the victims that he killed. And then I listened to the episode and then thought about it and was like, no, that's no, that he's way too OCD and he's way too obsessed with details. And that's evidence. That would be evidence that he'd be bringing home and creating around on his family's body and in his home and so I thought that's crazy that can't be what it is so then if that's the case it's just a character trait that he likes to go jewelry shopping for his wife a lot anyways Anyways, love the show. Thank you guys. Talk to you soon. Ooh, great point.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Maybe he was using the money to buy jewelry, but no, the movie really makes it very clear he was giving her the jewelry that he found off the people, but he didn't kill women. I think he took money, bought jewelry. That's my reasoning. I'm sticking with it. Katie, great call.
Starting point is 00:09:24 Next up, Lee from Ontario. Hey Paul, I just listened to the Trap episode and I have a fan theory about Josh Hartnett's character that I think is gonna blow your mind because I think it ties two other movie universes together into one big shared universe, so check it out. I think Josh Hartnett has like maybe superpowers in this movie because I mean mean he ate a bunch of poison
Starting point is 00:09:46 Didn't kill him. He got tasered by so many people more than a normal person could take Plus he's gonna have some sort of superpowers because he pulled a bike spoke off of a bike at the end of the movie with Ease like he was just separating fucking wooden chopsticks So if you think about Unbreakable and Split, we know people have kind of like grounded superpowers there right? And the villains in those movies have nicknames like Mr. Glass, The Horde, and Josh Hartnett's The Butcher. That it seems like a no-brainer. That one it seems yes that's true.'ve decided now here's the fucking
Starting point is 00:10:25 crazy one what we know about this movie is uncles are very important uncles are the best uncles uncles uncles so in this superpowered killer Josh argument said that he loves killing people because their eyes go black or dark or something like that so what other movie franchise has a super-powered serial killer who has the darkest eyes, the devil's eyes? It's Michael Myers who...is Josh Hartnett's uncle in Halloween H2O. It's it's it murder runs in the family. I think that he grew up and he changed his name to escape his past to just like Laurie Strode did in that movie.
Starting point is 00:11:12 Holy shit, they're all connected. I just, I figured you need to hear this theory, not theory. You needed to hear these facts because it's true. I've decided. Anyway, the podcast is amazing. Thank you guys for doing this for so many years and your book was incredible. I laughed, I cried, I really connected with it.
Starting point is 00:11:30 So thank you for writing it. And I hope you all have an amazing day. Lee, you fucking nailed it. I agree with you completely, yes and yes. Because I believe there was a title at the front of it was like in the M. Night universe or some wording that was like putting it, it was like the dark, the dark universe.
Starting point is 00:11:49 Remember the mummy and that failed thing that universal was gonna do. Yes, I believe that you are right. I think that you jumped the shark a little bit on the Halloween movie universe, but I like it. But to your point, you don't even have to jump to shark and go to Halloween you could just stay in the split universe and all of a sudden you put all these people here you got like uh you got a league of villains this is like uh when that team up with all the bad guys from
Starting point is 00:12:15 spider-man the sinister six we're getting there we're getting there I love it all right uh this is from Thomas from the traveling museum all right Thomas what do you got right, this is from Thomas from the Traveling Museum. Mark Thomas, what do you got? Paul, this is Thomas. There's been a trend in Hollywood lately where there's trailers for movies or commercials that hide the fact that they're musicals and they kind of trick you into thinking
Starting point is 00:12:34 it's just a normal movie. Is Trap one of those movies? I don't think so. No, this is not a musical. A musical is a movie in which song is used to convey feelings and emotions that are in a scene. This is a movie where the music is, what do they call it? Diagetic? Like it's, it's organic to the setting. So there's not a musical concert movie, maybe, but they're only there for 20 minutes. So no, it's not really, it's not a musical.
Starting point is 00:13:07 It's not a musical. I'm sorry, Thomas, I would agree with you, but you're wrong. Vin from Columbus, Ohio, what do you got? Hey, Paul, I have a quick correction on the whole uncle thing. In Indian American families and probably other Asian American families, oftentimes the word, a term uncle is used sort of
Starting point is 00:13:27 across the board with any family male friends. So when M. Night was clarifying that he's actually her mother's brother he was just saying that yes I'm an uncle but I'm actually a family uncle not like a friend uncle which is often used interchangeably. Anyway, love the show, thanks, bye. Okay, sure, okay, I guess, I guess. I don't love it. But let's go back to the Discord for another alternative uncle theory.
Starting point is 00:13:56 Sean McBee writes, I think that M. Night clarifies that he's Lady Raven's mother's brother because Lady Raven pointlessly mentions it on stage that her dad left when she was seven. So this uncle wants to make this stranger know that he's related to the good parent. Well, here's my issue. And I'm gonna go back to Vin from Columbus.
Starting point is 00:14:17 Who cares if he was a family friend? He could call himself uncle. We don't need to know, oh, blood is thicker than water. I mean, why are we doing all this? But anyway, you guys were really fascinated by the uncle conversation. I mean, we did make a t-shirt about it,
Starting point is 00:14:30 which I love and is available now in T-Public. Alistair Simp writes, just pointing out that in the movie Old, M. Night also played the little boy's friend's uncle, didn't acknowledge what side he was on there. So if we're going back to the idea that this is something that is in Indian American culture, the little boy's friend's uncle didn't acknowledge which side he was on there. So if we're going back to the idea that this is something that is in Indian American culture,
Starting point is 00:14:50 then Vin's theory is out the window. But speaking of the movie, old portable Jeff said, Paul, since you auditioned to be the hotel guy character in old, what character would you like to play in trap? Honestly, I think this movie is brilliantly cast. I love everybody in it. I love the backstage manager. I would have liked to have been the M. Night part.
Starting point is 00:15:07 Honestly, I would have liked to have been the M. Night part. And I would have been like, I'm her uncle. I mean, not really just like a friend of the family, but I look out for her. Or I may have wanted to be with the guy who came out of the stairs. I would like to be like that singer. That'd be fun.
Starting point is 00:15:24 So many great corrections and omissions this week, but we can only pick one. out of the stairs. I would like to be like that singer. That'd be fun. So many great corrections and omissions this week, but we can only pick one. One that is truly amazing. And honestly, I am a little stuck. I'm thinking about where this all goes. But I think the one that really gets me, look, we've said that Spencer's a fucking idiot. We've talked about the leukemia,
Starting point is 00:15:45 but I think Katie is the one that may have to win because that jewelry thing makes sense, but then it doesn't make any sense. And then it's the whole crux of how the wife found out. So Katie, you have uncovered the most interesting correction and omission, I think, about trap. And by the way, everyone's aces this week,
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Starting point is 00:16:58 about the latest episode, hit us up on the Discord at discord.gg slash HDTGM or call us at 619-PAUL-ASK. Okay, coming up after the discord at discord.gg slash HDTGM or call us at 619-P-A-U-L-A-S-K. Okay, coming up after the break, Jason will stop by to answer some Halloween themed questions that you sent us for this Halloween episode. Ooh, spooky. Uh, but first take a listen to this bonus deleted scene from our Trap live show where we talk about the asthma inhalers in the film.
Starting point is 00:17:22 Anyway, but Lady Raven is not afraid to take a moment and acknowledge a person's existence. Okay, I like that, but in my mind I was like, oh, they only had the stadium for a certain amount of time, like big, big shots, and they just, this poor actor fell, and they were like, we gotta keep it. That's the one we got, we got it.
Starting point is 00:17:42 No, I think it is, I think Dream's right, but what makes it tricky is, that's the one we got. We got it. No, I think it is. I think Dream's right. But what makes it tricky is, that's the moment where he looks at her and goes, you think you're whole. Does he think that like, so- No, honey, no, no, no. Uh-oh. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:56 Oh. Uh-oh. We'll be quiet. You guys work this out. No, no, no. The moment he's referencing is seeing her with her inhaler because if you have asthma as I do, you're not a whole person.
Starting point is 00:18:12 Oh no. Well, but- You're a person in need of this. Oh no, because I'm taking a steroid pill every day to control this breathing. Wait, wait, wait, but if she's using the inhaler, then she knows she's not whole. Then he could just steal the inhaler.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Well, this is a thing, like what is he trying to do? Why doesn't that come back? Why, they make such a thing to foreground it and be like, look at her weakness. I think there was a world in which they shot it and didn't use it in the third movie that was a part of this movie. I do have that deleted scene
Starting point is 00:18:43 and it does not come up in that scene. I appreciated the inhaler though because I feel like there was a time in the third movie that was a part of this movie. I do have that deleted scene and it does not come up in that scene. I appreciated the inhaler though because I feel like there was a time in the late 90s or maybe it was early. Oh, the Hand that Rocks the Cradle. No. Hand that Rocks the Cradle, there was a lot of movies where asthma
Starting point is 00:18:54 not having an inhaler was the thing. It was the stakes of the third act. And I- Very Three Ninjas. Yeah, I miss it, I miss it. All right everybody, Yeah, I miss it. I miss it. How the disc can be. How the disc can be. All right, everybody.
Starting point is 00:19:07 I hope you are checking out Matinee Monday every week. On Matinee Monday, we are pulling thematically episodes out of the vault. We've pulled out Malignant, and now we are also going to be talking about Lawn Mower Man coming up next week. So keep on checking out all those replays of classic episodes and now it's time for me and Jason to get into a little Halloween talk. It is now time for Just Chat. Halloween edition! Tom McWaters, play us in. All right. So Halloween is around the corner and we decided to go to you our discord community
Starting point is 00:20:06 For some Halloween themed questions. So scott, what do we got? Hey paul and jason This is brett from los angeles My question is what was your first scary movie you remember watching as a kid like it stuck with you for me I remember That's not really a scary movie, but it had scary parts, was Big Trouble in Little China, which I know you guys did an episode on for blank checks. So tell me, what's your favorites? What sticks with you since you were a kid? Thanks again. That's an interesting question. You know, I wasn't really a horror movie person when
Starting point is 00:20:39 I was a kid. Horror scared me. Oh, same, same. So much so that I'm not a horror person as an adult. I would say the times that were, where I was exposed to scary movies were accidentally. Like I remember being a little kid, I mean not a little kid, but like a young kid and seeing some, like I seeing like 20 minutes of Friday the 13th, I think.
Starting point is 00:21:10 Is that Camp Crystal Lake? Yeah, that's Camp, yes. I think I saw 10 to 15 minutes of that on TV and was like horrified. The scene in Poltergeist where the guy looks in the mirror and his face melts off of his skull, terrifying. Like, there are certain moments and certain things that I saw when I was getting, I'm gonna say like nine,
Starting point is 00:21:31 10, 11 years old, I saw The Exorcist, and I saw A Clockwork Orange, and both of those movies, like, truly rocked me. Like, what's so scary about those movies? I think, like, sometimes,ed me. Like, what's so scary about those movies? I think, like, sometimes, for me, anyway, like, I'm coming in, like, not having seen anything, and I remember seeing Freddie's face.
Starting point is 00:21:53 Because I think when we were growing up, it was Freddie and Jason were really like, that was, those were the main people at the box office. Like, those were the scary, the scary people. Yeah, to me, Jason and Michael Myers. Oh, yes, Michael Myers. Because I'm a little older, so Freddy didn't come along until I was a little older,
Starting point is 00:22:09 and Freddy had a little bit more camp to him. Right. But Jason and Michael Myers were these stoic and leather face, were these just murder machines. It's like, you know, so I really did avoid it. I think the ones that I liked were the ones that I found myself like gravitating towards psycho. Like psycho was something I could handle.
Starting point is 00:22:34 Oh, incredible. And I was like, okay, psycho and Jaws were like, I felt like, okay, I can hang on something that is scary, but I could actually tolerate it. And I felt like that was the safe space. I loved the movie, like The Omen, you know? Cause I was like, oh, this is an incredible story. You know, The Exorcist, I remember loving.
Starting point is 00:22:54 And in high school, like The Omen, The Exorcist, those are the movies that I, the horror movies that I would go back to. Cause I thought they, I mean, they're amazing movies. Versus the, you know, it wasn't until way later in life that like, the Nightmare on Elm Street, or the fun to watch with a group. Yes.
Starting point is 00:23:11 You know, rent, because it was always, for me, and I'm sure for you too, it was about renting a movie where you would watch with a group of kids in a basement. Yeah. You know, and you'd watch Motel Hell, or you'd watch these crazy 80s, you know, gonzo slasher, you know, I spit on your grave kind of crazy movies, you know?
Starting point is 00:23:31 Well, like I think that like, I was lucky because by the time I was like getting out of high school or yeah, like in that zone, Scream came out. And Scream kind of started to deconstruct everything. So then I got into like the meta version of it where it was like the faculty and all these other fun, like there was an era of we understand horror movies
Starting point is 00:23:52 and we're having fun like with them. But I gotta tell you, I got freaked the fuck out by a horror movie recently, not even recently, within the last couple of years as an adult. Was it Megan? Was it Megan? Megan, I was so scared of you, robot the last couple of years. As an adult. Was it Megan? Was it Megan? Meg, I was so scared of you, robot.
Starting point is 00:24:06 She dances so crazy. Hereditary fucked me up. Like it fucked me up. And I haven't been, and that's a weird feeling as an adult with children to feel like, oh, I'm scared of a movie. Oh yeah. No, he does such a good job, Ari Aster,
Starting point is 00:24:26 of getting under your skin. It's, he's really exceptional. God, like it got me. I remember I was watching an airplane and then I was staying in a hotel in North Carolina by myself and was frightened. And there's no reason to be frightened. There's nothing like, yeah, but it's like I was scared.
Starting point is 00:24:45 I didn't, I haven't felt that way in such a long time. Ooh, yeah. Oh, that's funny. Yeah, but I don't consume a ton of that content. Like I've never seen an Annabeth movie. Annabeth or Annabelle? Annabelle, yeah. I've never seen a conjuring movie.
Starting point is 00:25:00 I've never seen a purge. Those are fun though. Oh, I'm sure they're a blast. But I don't ever, those aren't movies that I'm like, oh, I gotta watch. Although I gotta watch The Substance, you know? Oh yeah. I'm excited to watch The Substance. I'm excited to see Smile 2.
Starting point is 00:25:12 Okay, I didn't see Smile 1. I've never seen a Terrifier. Oh, I don't wanna, Terrifier to me is exactly what I don't wanna see. I've never seen a Saw. I've never seen a Hostel. You know? Those are the ones that I don't love as much.
Starting point is 00:25:25 I'm like, give me the evil dead. Give me like the others, whatever. You know, I'm like, I'm more in that vein of like. Wait, was the others the Nicole Kidman one? Yes. Great, love that movie. Love that movie. Yeah, I don't wanna see anybody's body getting flayed.
Starting point is 00:25:39 I just said that's not fun for me. I take no joy in a human centipede or, you know, or any of that kind of stuff. Yeah, I can't do it. I just can't do it. All right, what else we got, Scott? All right, I have a very important question from EmilyAaron10 who wants to know,
Starting point is 00:25:58 fuck, marry, kill Jason Voorhees, Freddy Krueger, or Michael Myers? Wow, really hard. I think I'm gonna marry Freddy just because kill Jason Voorhees, Freddy Krueger, or Michael Myers? Wow. Really hard. I think I'm gonna marry Freddy, just because if I'm gonna spend my life with him, he's at least a conversational.
Starting point is 00:26:12 It's funny as hell. Yeah. I mean, he's got the jokes. I agree with that. I'm on the same page there. And then, I mean, Michael Myers and Jason Voorhees are so similar to me. And I spent quite a lot of my life
Starting point is 00:26:27 because I wasn't super familiar with either of their mythologies, just conflating the two of them. Yeah. So, I mean, I guess, you know, who wears the hockey mask? That's Jason. Jason wears the hockey mask. So I guess I'll fuck him
Starting point is 00:26:42 cause that's just two Jason's, right? And that's gonna be, that, right? And that's powerful. That's very powerful. To fuck someone with your own name, that's your name squared. That's like, yeah, there's power in that. If you have that chance, do that. There's power in that.
Starting point is 00:26:57 And so then I guess I'm, so I'm fucking Jason Voorhees, and I am killing, although he, I believe, is unkillable, Michael Myers. Yeah, I'm with you on the Freddy, because like we said, he's fun. And then I have to look at, what I think about Jason is,
Starting point is 00:27:13 I've seen Jason movies where he's all made bugs and lizards and all that. I don't need all that. Mike Myers is just a disturbed kid, right? He's grown up. He's just Austin Powers. Wait, am I doing the wrong Michael Myers? Oh no, now we have done it.
Starting point is 00:27:30 All right, so that yeah, I'm gonna kill Voorhees, I'm gonna fuck Michael Myers. And that, you know, that's it. With the mask off. When, let me ask you this, let me ask you this. Cause this is a real conversation topic. When did fuck Mary kill become the totemic question to ask for everything in every scenario.
Starting point is 00:27:56 Now we ask that we are asked from the audience, from this audience all the time. Fuck Mary kill. I'd say every time you pull questions, Scott, there's at least one to seven fuck, marry, kills in there. When did this happen? This is like a weird thing, and I know that they've changed it, right?
Starting point is 00:28:14 Like there's like a new way to do fuck, marry, kill. Like, because it's a little, I mean, if you think about it. It's woke. Let me guess, the woke police came for fuck, marry, kill. Let me guess, it's woke? Let me guess, the woke police came for fuck, marry, kill. Like it is a crazy, even like, cause that was to me as a child, you're like, okay, I get it.
Starting point is 00:28:32 I get the premise of it. But it is like when you take it down at a level, you're like, wow, killing, I'm killing someone. Cause originally when it was only, when it was positioned to you, or at least when it was positioned to me, it was always like women, like beautiful women. It wasn't like, it wasn't like a,
Starting point is 00:28:48 it wasn't like Freddie or Jason. I have no problem killing Freddie or Jason. I don't know, you know. Sure, sure. But when it's like, fuck, Mary, kill the original Charlie's Angels, you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Yeah, I gotta get in here. Don't do Kate Jackson like that.
Starting point is 00:29:01 Oh my God. Yeah, that really has become like, it's a, it's a, it's a. It's like, it's now, I think, passed through cultural relevance and is now, I believe, annoying. Like I would be happy to never answer a fuck, marry, kill for the rest of my life. Well, I mean, I agree with you too.
Starting point is 00:29:23 I don't fully get it. I like this one that somebody started called Make Out Mary and Move On. Pfft. Ha ha ha. No, Fuck Mary Kill. All right, what else we got? All right, Fuck Mary Kill.
Starting point is 00:29:38 Ah! Sorry, sorry. All right, Joseph Wernden wants to know, corn mazes, for or against? Seems fine. Sorry, sorry. All right, Joseph Wernden wants to know, corn mazes for or against? Seems fine, seems harmless. Here's what I'll say, I've never been in a corn maze. Wow.
Starting point is 00:29:56 I don't think I've ever been in a corn maze. You know, I don't think I've actually, well, yes, I have been in a corn maze. I was in a corn maze last Halloween. There's a big one out here in LA where they have like a pumpkin patch and it's a big, big fun corn maze. Here's the thing, it's just a maze made out of,
Starting point is 00:30:15 there's nothing to it. You like a maze? You don't like a maze. We did have a human giant sketch called corn maze, which is still one of my favorite ones where Rob is breaking up with a girl and then sends her into the corn maze where she's forever lost.
Starting point is 00:30:30 And it pulls out and you see all these women just lost in a corn maze of his own design where he's kept them forever. So I can't think of- I think corn mazes are something that like, if you didn't do as a kid, it's strange to go to as a childless adult. Yeah, you can't go to a corn maze for fun.
Starting point is 00:30:49 I can't be wandering around those corn maze asking kids like, how do I get out of here? Hey, you wanna come explore this path with me? Corn maze, the thing about corn mazes too is, like it's farm-based, right? They got, they could just cut through it. And I'm looking right here, I just typed in corn maze on Google.
Starting point is 00:31:10 There's so many corn mazes near us, Jason. Like a ridiculous amount of corn mazes. No thanks. But corn mazes in the dark, I've done that. That's scary. Okay, I can see that, sure. I mean, any maze in the dark is scary, I guess. All right, what else we got?
Starting point is 00:31:26 Rebecca Johnson. Hang on a second, Scott, shut the fuck up. Paul, will you Google, what's the biggest corn maze? Okay. I'm so curious just because I'm like, wouldn't it be cool if you entered a corn maze that you were guaranteed it was gonna take the whole day to get out of?
Starting point is 00:31:43 Okay, the largest corn maze is Richardson Adventure Farm in Spring Grove, Illinois. The map is made up of four smaller mazes and has nine to 10 miles of trails. It has multiple checkpoints, three bridges, a perimeter path and no dead ends. And basically it will rent out and has a theme. So in 2023, the maze celebrated 30 years of Jurassic Park
Starting point is 00:32:13 and featured scenes from the film. And yeah, so other large maze, other one, if you wanna go closer to California, Cool Patch Pumpkins is a 63 acre maze that has a- Oh, CPP? Yeah, CPP. CPP, they know what's up. And Cool Patch Pumpkins has won the Guinness World Record
Starting point is 00:32:30 twice for the world's largest corn maze. I do think it would be interesting to go into a corn maze that you needed to bring like food and water because you knew it was gonna just take. It's a corn maze that's on like six acres of land. Yeah. I would be intrigued by that's on like six acres of land. Wouldn't that be, I would be intrigued by that. This year's, by the way, I told you that one has a theme
Starting point is 00:32:50 every year, the Jurassic Park one. This year, the theme is John Deere tractors. And I gotta tell you, Jason, I'm looking at the over, let me just, I'm gonna share my screen for one second with you, because this is the corn maze, the one I just told you about. Oh, wow. Can you see that?
Starting point is 00:33:05 Isn't that crazy? Holy cow. Oh, that's cool. See, that is interesting to me, I will say. That is, what we're looking at is a giant ass corn maze that has, that is carved out. Is this what it actually is? Yes. Or is this a rendering? No, this is what it is. That's it.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Yeah. Wow. Okay, that's pretty cool. People should look at that. Yeah, just look at the Richardson Adventure Farm. But it's basically, it's like a carved out painting of like, there's a picture of John Deere. Here's what I'll say. There's slogans. How is there not a Blumhouse movie that's
Starting point is 00:33:37 just set in a corn? How has there not been a Children of the Corn Maze set up? I mean, movie. I think as corn mazes at a certain point, they run out of steam. The Huebie Halloween. Okay, I didn't see Huebie Halloween.
Starting point is 00:33:50 You should, I think it's pretty funny. I'll watch it, sure. It seems too scary. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. All right, what else we got? All right, got this question from a lot of people, but Vintage from The mitten wants to know
Starting point is 00:34:07 what was each of yours favorite Halloween costume as a child? Well, I can tell you this. I, I, I'm realizing my son has this problem too. I wanted to dress up and really trick people that I was this other thing. And no matter what I got, I was like, well, I'm not, I don't look exactly like this other thing and I would get like kind of paralyzed by it. So the one year in particular that I remember, and I've had some cool costumes that Indiana Jones, I had a ninja, but this is the costume that
Starting point is 00:34:41 I remember the most because it paralyzed me the most. I was Jack Nicholson's Joker from Batman. Whoa! And I got a mask, a Joker mask. Not, I didn't paint my face. I had the Joker mask. And I was dressed in a purple tuxedo or, you know, whatever, the suit. And I would go around.
Starting point is 00:34:57 And because my voice couldn't sound like Jack Nicholson's, now I'm about to tell you the creepiest thing of all time, I would just go up to people's houses and just hold my bag out, but not say a word. Because I was worried. Because you couldn't be voice accurate. Yes, and so people would like, so, and the mask was a little bit bigger on my head.
Starting point is 00:35:16 So I did look like a Mike Myers, just standing there like, oh, and who are you? Silent. Well, okay, and who, and where are you, which house are you you? Silent. Well, okay. And where are you? Which house are you from? Silent. Like I was creeping people the fuck out. And yeah, that was the one that I remember.
Starting point is 00:35:32 I was like, oh, I may have messed up on that one. My mom made me two incredible costumes that were, I would say most of, I would say these two costumes were the, to me, then and for the rest of my life, were like the most iconic Halloween costumes I had. One of which was Darth Vader, and one of which was a Stormtrooper.
Starting point is 00:35:55 And they were both, my mom made them, and they were super like detailed and incredible. And the Stormtrooper, I think I wore like two years in a row. Cause it was so good. What kind of shielding are you wearing there for Stormtroopers? What do you got?
Starting point is 00:36:10 Like what's your- So she would get like the off the rack thing so that it had the mask. Okay. And I think a chest plate. Okay. And then my mom made all of these arm guards and leg guards and all of the white armor was,
Starting point is 00:36:32 it was like, you know, she sewed a whole like white armor set for each piece was. Wow. I bet, I'm certain there's somewhere a picture of it that I will find and I'll try and put it up or something. I wanna see that. On our thing. But they were, it was incredible.
Starting point is 00:36:49 And they were, all I wanted was to access Star Wars. And then later in life, for most of my, like I'd say 30s, every year I dressed as Princess Leia with the wig. Really? Oh, I love that. The wig, the buns wig and the long flowing dress except with my full beard. And so I did that for, I mean, for probably 10 years in the early 2000s, I was Princess Leia. I, all right.
Starting point is 00:37:18 So you'll be happy to know that this year, my youngest son is going as Boba Fett and we have been working on his costume. And I am very happy because what you just described is what I'm doing. I got him the base costume, which is kind of like a big pajama. But then I got him gray pants. I got him some like things for his knees.
Starting point is 00:37:37 I got him like things for his arm. I got him a sack. He is ready to go. I've been so psyched about this costume, but he is all, and I told you, we've been talking about Star Wars a sack. He is ready to go. I've been so psyched about this costume, but he is all, and I told you, we've been talking about Star Wars a bunch. I've been watching a lot of Star Wars with him. He's now getting into the Clone Wars.
Starting point is 00:37:53 We're getting there. We're getting there. I was just gonna say, are you watching the episodes of Clone Wars where he's a kid? Where Boba Fett is your son's age. Yes, we started to, we watched the one where Boba Fett does that like a heist mission. Yes. Yes, we started to, we watched the one where Boba Fett does that like a heist mission. Yes.
Starting point is 00:38:07 Yes, right. And so I've been, you know, look, he wants to watch so much, I mean, I spent the weekend drawing Cad Bane pictures with him. You know, so he's all over the map because the Star Wars- Love that. The Star Wars Psychos game has brought him in in so many different directions.
Starting point is 00:38:22 So we're finding things and he's really enjoying them. So, uh, Cad Bane, one of my all time favorite. I'm, I like started, I jumped up and started yelling and screaming when Cad Bane appeared in live action star wars in the Mandalorian. That was so good. I love it. Um, all right. What else we got, Scott? Okay. Kevin Langley III sent in a Halloween movie hot take to get your comment on. He says the Halloween movies are basically the Fast and Furious franchise of the horror genre.
Starting point is 00:38:55 Okay, well, is that all he says? That's it. I can't speak knowledgeably about this, but didn't we do one where they were in space? You know, I think flawed premise, because he's making us do the work. Flawed premise, no. Here's what I'll say.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Here's what I'll say. Next thing to retire after Fuck, Mary, Kill, people's hot takes. I'm not interested in other people's hot takes. I gotta take the fall on this one, because when I put out the call, I said, feel free to send in your hot takes. All right, well, Scott, then you fucked us. Then you fucking fucked us, Scott.
Starting point is 00:39:31 Here's the other thing I wanna put with hot takes being banned. Shoot your shot. People say shoot your shot. Oh, get rid of it. I'm done with shoot your shot. Get rid of it. Shoot your shot doesn't mean just do something, like it's like. Shoot your shot. I don't need something stupid. Like it's like,
Starting point is 00:39:45 Shoot your shot. I had to go up to her and I had to go up to Kylie Jenner and fucking ask her to marry me and shoot my shot. Like it's not gonna work. Nope. Like here's my thing. Shoot your shot on a basketball court. Like don't shoot your shot in the parking lot at a Ralph's.
Starting point is 00:40:02 I feel like in the sense of like a basketball will potentially go in the hoop. If you're on a basketball court, but people are now saying, I got to shoot my shot. It's like, you're nowhere near this will never work. You're not in the game. You're not even in the game. The game don't shoot a shot. You're not in the game. I hate the shoot the shot.
Starting point is 00:40:20 It's a hate shooting the shot. I hate a hot take. All of these things are not conversation starters. They're conversation enders. I'm just like, I'm out and here's the thing. I guess is what this person wants us to say is like, well, Halloween started off as a very simple franchise and then it's grown into crazy things. But the truth is it hasn't grown that much.
Starting point is 00:40:40 It's, I mean, yes, there's like that season of the witch, which is an outlier. And then there's like, but it's always fucking strode and it's always, it's the same fucking thing. And the David Gordon Green version's the same fucking thing. It's, no, it's not. Yeah, I don't think it's that either. And so I think your hot take is, in fact, Michael Langley III, cold as ice.
Starting point is 00:41:05 Oh, you know, uh, you know what? Did I remember his name right? I deleted him from the screen already. I don't know. Wow. Um, you know what I wanted? Uh, okay. Well, you know, let me see.
Starting point is 00:41:14 I have one thing here. I just want to see if, uh, when then we. You know what people, while you're looking it up, I'll say it's spooky season. So people should be watching one of my favorite TV shows, Evil, the King's show, Evil, which is on Paramount Plus, I believe, or Peacock. I can't remember whichever one. It's Paramount, it's gotta be Paramount. Fantastic show, fantastic show.
Starting point is 00:41:36 That's a great show. Love it. But also I wanna really recommend the reboot of Scare Tactics, which is now back out on the air. I love Scare Tactics. Yes is now back out on the air. I love Scare Tactics. Yes.
Starting point is 00:41:47 I know you were like maybe the first person who I ever heard about Scare Tactics from back in the day. So Scare Tactics sold or they at least transitioned the rights to Jordan Peele. Oh, funny. Yes and Elon Gale who is behind Fuck Boy Island and The Bachelor in Paradise and The Bachelor franchise, Elon, movie producer and everything.
Starting point is 00:42:09 So these two have teamed up. It's great. It's great. Oh, that's great. I like that. Speaking of Jordan Peele, I did this the other day. I wanna see where you fall in this. Jordan Peele was on The Tonight Show
Starting point is 00:42:21 and he ranked his top six horror films. I'll give it to you and tell you what I know you're not into horror, but these, I think, right. They transcend. Well, number six saw, which by the way, I have to say I saw saw recently. I seen saw and, uh, it was way better than I thought. I seen saw and, uh, Carrie Elway is great. It's, it's a, it's much more of a thriller fun.
Starting point is 00:42:45 Oh, Carrie Elway's is in Saw? Yeah. It's not like, it's less crazy than you think. It's good. Sure. Saw's is number six. His number five is Get Out, his own movie, which honestly I gotta say, I don't disagree.
Starting point is 00:42:59 Oh, I agree, yeah. Number four, The Shining. Home Run. Great one. Number three, Psycho, yeah. Number four, The Shining. Home Run. Great one. Number three, Psycho. Yeah. Great. Number two, The Exorcist. Great. And his number one, Nightmare on Elm Street.
Starting point is 00:43:14 Great. Which is, I mean, I think that's a great list. I think that's a fantastic list. Saw is the only one I haven't seen. The rest of those, I've seen multiple times. You know, The Exorcist, The Shining, I think incredible. These are all also like auteur driven horror movies. By the way, I have to say,
Starting point is 00:43:34 when you watched Nightmare on Elm Street, the first one, it's way better than what it's become. I mean, that's the other thing too. These things start to become these other things. I would just, the only thing I would put in there is the Omen, just because I thought I love the Omen. And oh, and also, I'm sorry, also for me, I think because it was so part of the, like I said earlier, the period of time
Starting point is 00:43:56 when you rented scary movies and watched them with people was Rosemary's Baby. It was like, I guaranteed like a spooky, scary, you were gonna watch that movie and then make out. You know, that was what that was all about. All right, is that all we got, Scott? We could do one more. One more, one more.
Starting point is 00:44:14 All right, guys, let's do it. Todd Van Meter wants to know, have either of you left a place because you felt a weird presence or something felt off? I can answer this one that, Either of you left a place because you felt a weird presence or something felt off. I can answer this one that will implicate me more than anything. I was at my anniversary with June
Starting point is 00:44:35 and I decided I'd try to find a fun place we could go. Like a little like staycation, we just had kids or just had a kid and it was like, we didn't wanna be away for that long, but we were like, let's just go take a night. I did some research and I found this, like I thought very cute, quaint boutique hotel. When June stepped inside because of my penchant for all things immersive and haunted houses and all these sorts of gatherings, June thought that I was walking her into a immersive hotel and refused to believe me that it was not.
Starting point is 00:45:05 Like she was not part of a, you know, like, you know, like, you know, into an immersive hotel and refused to believe me that it was not, like, she was not part of a, this was an arouse. And would like, entered into the room with such hesitation and was like, nope, I nope, nope. And then was like, we gotta go. I don't believe you and we gotta go. And so June left because she thought I was bringing her into some sort of like overnight haunted house.
Starting point is 00:45:30 We went to another hotel down the road. Oh, you did in fact leave. Oh, that's so funny. She refused to believe you. Refused to believe me. Oh, that's incredible. And then she was like, well, I got a bad feeling from this place. It is bad.
Starting point is 00:45:43 And this is like, it was a really nice hotel. The guy actually refunded my money because he thought it was, he was like, I don't even know what happened here. Oh, that's so funny. I love that. That's great. And to answer the question, no, I never have.
Starting point is 00:45:57 I've never had that sense, that feeling. I've been in places where people have come, like a hotel in New York that I used to go to a lot, that I had multiple people who came to my room, be like, ooh, I don't like this room. I don't like this place. This place gives me bad vibes. And then there was like, there was like a lot of noise
Starting point is 00:46:17 coming from the room above us. And then realized that that room was not, there was no room above us. It was just the, like was no room above us. It was just the attic and the roof. But I just never, I'm not, I don't know. I'm not in tune with that frequency. I never experienced it, but like friends of mine
Starting point is 00:46:38 who like were there were like, this place, you shouldn't stay here. This place is creepy. Oh wow. But you didn't feel it. If you didn't feel it, then you didn't feel it, then you didn't stay. I just didn't. I don't know. I like it.
Starting point is 00:46:47 I do think it's like a, I do think it's a frequency you're either in tune to or not, you know? I agree with that. I think that like I'm open to things, but I'm also not getting visitations all the time. Yeah. And that's the way we, that's the way we end it.
Starting point is 00:47:03 All right. Happy Halloween. Happy spooky season, everybody. And if you are dressing up as a character from one of our movies, send us a picture. Oh yeah, by the way, send us a picture. Send us pictures of your, how did this get made costume inspiration?
Starting point is 00:47:20 Whether that is from one of the movies we've covered or a joke that we've made, or whether it's us that you're dressed as, whatever it is, send us those pictures. One of my favorite things of all time was our Halloween tour last year, where we were able to kind of- It was so great.
Starting point is 00:47:33 Yeah, I loved it. It was really, really fun. All right, so send us those pics. We'll see you next time. Bye for now. All right, thank you, Jason. And thank you to everyone who wrote in with a question. Thank you, Scott, for putting that all together.
Starting point is 00:47:44 But now it is finally time to announce our next film. All right, thank you, Jason, and thank you to everyone who wrote in with the question. Thank you, Scott, for putting that all together. But now it is finally time to announce our next film. Next week, we'll be going from a serial killer who's big to a serial killer who wears wigs. That's right, not really a rhyme. A serial killer who's big to a serial killer who wears wigs. It doesn't really work, but I'm trying.
Starting point is 00:48:02 That's right, next episode, we'll be watching the 1999 thriller, Eye of the Beholder, starring Ewan McGregor, Ashley Judd, and Jason Priestley. Yep. Here's a breakdown of Eye of the Beholder's plot. A private eye shadows a female serial killer of men all over the USA as he occasionally acts
Starting point is 00:48:21 as her guardian angel. And by the way, that is a bad breakdown of the film. Rotten Tomatoes gives us a 9% score on the tomato meter and J. Carr from the Boston Globe writes, I Have the Beholder is yet another example of how bad movies can happen to good people. And that is true. I mean, a lot of good people in this movie,
Starting point is 00:48:39 lot of good people in this movie, and this movie is a slog. Anyway, listen to the trailer for eye of the beholder there are people we should never watch there are moments we should never see and there are obsessions we should never follow never follow. What did she say? She went north about a half hour ago. You and McGregor, Ashley Judd. Eye of the Beholder. What are you doing? Don't do this to me. Eye of the Beholder is available to stream for free on Hoopla, Canopy and Plex or you can rent it on Amazon Prime Video or Apple TV. In addition to Hoopla and Canopy, I encourage you to check out Libby which is another digital media service offered to you by your local public
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