How Did This Get Made? - Last Looks: Troll

Episode Date: September 13, 2024

Jason joins Paul to chat about heist movies, Star Wars comics and video games, TV shows, and more! But first, Paul dives into corrections and omissions from Troll, shares a deleted scene from the Troll episode, and announces next week's movie.PAUL & JASON'S TV/MOVIE PICKS:Diarra From DetroitWarren Beatty & Goldie Hawn in Dollar$Batman: Caped CrusaderAliens ExpandedThe InstigatorsLA ConfidentialOcean's TwelveLogan LuckyStar Wars RebelsBob's BurgersLaw & OrderShoresy (Season 3)Alone (Season 11) PAUL & JASON'S COMICS & VIDEO GAME PICKS:Star Wars: Bounty HuntersStar Wars: Darth VaderStar Wars: Vader DownStar Wars OutlawsPlayStation Portal We're coming to NYC on Nov 15th & Philly on Nov 16th! Go to hdtgm.com for ticket info, merch, and for more on bad movies.Order Paul’s book about his childhood: Joyful Recollections of TraumaFor extra content on Matinee Monday movies, visit Paul's YouTube page: youtube.com/paulscheerTalk bad movies on the HDTGM Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmPaul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheerFollow Paul’s movie recs on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer/Check out new HDTGM movie merch over at teepublic.com/stores/hdtgmPaul and Rob Huebel stream live on Twitch every Thursday 8-10pm EST: www.twitch.tv/friendzoneLike good movies too? Subscribe to Unspooled with Paul and Amy Nicholson: listen.earwolf.com/unspooledSubscribe to The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael: www.thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcastCheck out The Jane Club over at www.janeclub.comWhere to find Paul, June, & Jason:@PaulScheer on Instagram & Twitter@Junediane on IG and @MsJuneDiane on TwitterJason is not on social mediaGet access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using the link siriusxm.com/hdtgm and code HDTGM.

Tide, Warren Beatty, and who was the age group for Troll? All this and more as we prepare to release another episode of How Did This Get Made? Last looks! Hit the theme! Hey! How did this get made? Trash can fires and Jacob's ladder Started out bad, now it's getting battered. Jason Stiffle, Angelino, down at the log, oh he's where I seen him. How did this get laid?

Tall John Sheeran, Jason Seuss, balcony monsters about to puke. And when the blood stops, it's another question. How did this get made? How did this get made? How did this get made? Hello all you Harry Potter juniors and Harry Potter seniors. I'm your talking mushroom, Paul Shearer, and welcome to How Did This Get Made? Last Look's Troll 1, where you the listener get to voice your issues on the first of this franchise of films.

That's right, Troll 1, a movie that Discord user Rocket Wesker thinks could have been called Harry Potter and the Cursed Child. Oooh, I like what you did there. The end really all ties it together. Anyway, thank you Rocket Wesker for that title. And remember, if you have an alt movie title or tagline, submit it to us on our Discord and we might just read it on the show. That is a promise.

We might do it. Anyway, coming up on today's episode, we will be hearing all of your corrections and omissions on Troll. We will also have an exclusive deleted scene from our Troll episode, which was an in-studio episode. What could we have cut out? And Jason will stop by to chat with me

about Star Wars comics and of course, TV that we're loving and our favorite heist movies and so much more. Plus as always, I will reveal the movie for next week's episode. But let me give you a big old rundown of plugs. That'sown of plugs. That's right, plugs.

How did this get made? We are coming back to Philadelphia on November 16th. Tickets are available right now. We will be at the Miller Theater on November 16th. I believe there are 20 seats left for our November 15th show in New York. So get them while you can. And you can see Jason and I

performing all around the East Coast. We're gonna be in Boston, Brooklyn, and DC with Dinosaur. And that group has Nicole Byer, Rob Hubel, Lisa Gilroy, Seth Morris, so many of your favorites, plus so many more. Yeah, that's right. We'll have some special guests. Carl Tartt, he's in the group.

He's not a special guest, but when we get to New York, you never know. So definitely check that out. Go to my website or how did this get made website to get your tickets. Tickets are on sale now for all of those shows. And if you're in LA, we got tons of LA shows. That's right, we're gonna be doing a bunch of shows.

Three new shows were announced at Largo in Los Angeles. So get those tickets while you can. And a big thank you to all of you for what you did. Last week, we did the virtual live show for Troll 2. It was online and it was so much fun and we raised a hundred and eighty one thousand dollars for a move on which is Activating people to get to the polls It was an amazing cause and you all brought it and we even created a shirt from that night and the proceeds from that shirt

Our nil bog shirt will also be going to move on. Um, wow. Oh, wow. Oh, and by the way, here's the thing. If you're in LA and you want to have breakfast with me, well, guess what? You can September 28th. I will be at the LA breakfast club and I will be doing a very special show. It will be about all of my celebrity run-ins when I was a kid in Los Angeles. If you read my book, there's a story about me

meeting Christopher Walken and Michael Landon. That will be the focus of my LA Breakfast Club morning event at 7 a.m. I believe the ticket sales stop on September 18th, but don't quote me on that. If you wanna make sure that you get tickets, go to my website, paulshear.com, and you will see the ticket link right on the front page.

All right. Woo wee, that was a lot of housekeeping, but now let's get into troll. Here's your chance to set us straight. Fact check us if you will. It is now time for corrections and Omissions. ["The Ugly Truth Is Our State Admissions"] Thank you Casey Campbell for that theme. Let's go right to the Discord. Davrox123 writes,

when the family is escaping the troll-infested building at the end, why does the mom take a bottle of Tide with her? Is that one of her most valuable possessions? You know what, Davrox? It always is more expensive than you think. That and printer cartridge ink. You gotta take it with you.

You can't just leave that behind. You need to bring the Tide because who knows when they'll get to another house. You gotta take it with you. You can't just leave that behind. You need to bring the tide because who knows when they'll get to another house. I mean, and really the tide is the reason this whole movie exists because if they didn't go into that fucking washing machine room,

they would never have met that troll and the girl would never have been possessed. Tide, this is a commercial for Tide. That's the product placement that the Italians were hoping to get in there. Ryan says, one, two, one, three, gives us an omission regarding why the movie was filmed in Rome.

Well, I'm very interested in this. He says, the movie's producer, Charles Band, wrote an autobiography where he says he bought a castle in Italy at auction, like we all do, and decided to use it as a shooting location for the bulk of the movies produced by his film company, Empire Pictures.

He also bought a production company that was created by Dino De Laurentiis for 20 million in order to fully shoot and produce his films in Italy, which would ultimately lead to Empire's closure in 88 and 89. Well, wow, that was a giant jump from buying to financial collapse. When did he even buy these?

How long did it exist? All right, I just hope that some of this film was shot in a castle. Let's go to the phones. Spencer from North Carolina, what do you got? I just wanted to let you guys know, I noticed that in Troll, he was reading a play girl type magazine,

which I think was called Play Troll or Troll Girl or something like that and I was just astounded and had to pause the movie so I could laugh for about 10 minutes straight. It just was one of those things that hit me and I was expecting y'all to talk about it and you didn't and it was hilarious especially when you think about the fact that this is a kiss movie and could you imagine the questions that that might have started talking about anyway I agree with y'all I totally recommend this movie it was a fun ride even though I was confused to no end thanks for all you do you know this first all, thank you so much, Spencer. This reminds me of that scene in Howard the Duck,

where Howard the Duck, I'm saying it like you all know exactly what I'm talking about. We did do it on the show, but where Howard the Duck sits in a like a barka lounger and opens it up like Play Duck, and you see like a little bit of like nudity with ducks. I mean, it's a weird scene, but as a kid I was like, whoa. And I do love that like playboy that they have all these play troll. Oh, it would be disgusting. But maybe that's what the what it is. I don't mean to yuck any yums or troll

yums. I don't know. Anyway, next caller. Thank you, Spencer Can we get a screen grab of that? All right, this is from, oh, from Corona, Corona, California, let's see. Hey, Paul, thanks for writing such a great book. I enjoyed it so much, I read it twice. Just finished the Troll episode, and I know you guys talked a lot about what age group it was intended for. When I was a teenager, I got to go to a preview screening

of the movie, and they were specifically looking for people eight to 16. So I guess they kind of didn't know exactly what age group they wanted anyway. Thanks for a great show. Bye. Whoa, that is a really weird age group to pick. Eight to 16.

Like it feels like those are the tail ends of two age groups that you want. You never want in between those two. Weird. And I can't believe that you remember that. All right, let's see what else we got here. Reyna from Rochester. Hi, Paul, June and Jason.

I've been listening to your podcast for forever and I just love you guys. But I will say your troll episode really brought up some joyful recollections of trauma for me. When I was 12 years old, I watched this movie with my four-year-old brother and I got so scared and I was convinced that my little brother was possessed by a troll.

So of course I asked him if he was possessed, it was a dumb thing to ask a four year old and he said he was. And like just started laughing maniacally and for a day or two I was pretty scared and then he tried to push me down the stairs. And at that point, I said, please, is my door locked? And took me a couple of years, I got over it, but we're in our 40s now and I'm not totally convinced that he's not possessed. So he listens to the show too, hi Raymond. And yeah, so we love you, love your podcast,

love your book and I can't wait for the next episode. Bye. Well, thank you, Rain. I have to say, I just was in Denver this past week and I met so many How Did This Get Made fans. They all came out to a tattered cover. We had a fun time, but man, you all are the best. Thank you so much for writing my book

and buying multiple copies of my book. Truly, it means the world to me. Every time I come back, I just feel, uh, from one of these events, I feel just absolutely fantastic. Um, here's, I'll tell you, get out, get out. I don't like this story at all. I think he's possessed too. We have to kill him.

Uh, no, Raina stay safe. We need to give her some sort, no, Raina stay safe. We need to give her some sort of orb of protection. Even though that's not in troll, I feel like we need or get her a mushroom plant, Raina, get a mushroom plant. Uh, all right. Next up, Lisa from Kansas City. Hey Paul, I just wanted to make mention that June Lockhart is still alive.

She is 99 years old. She was born on June 25th, 1925. She was even in Meet Me in St. Louis with Judy Garland. So anyhow, I just thought that was an interesting tidbit. Thanks, bye. Whoa, I did not get that. And you know what, Scott, our producer did remind me that June Lockhart was also in Holiday in Handcuffs.

She's fucking good, man. June Lockhart, killing it, 99, 99. Wow, well, way to go, June Lockhart. Back to the Discord, Coolio Julio, or Julio, says a quick correction regarding Paul's anecdote about the movie's producer asking Phil Fondacaro, the actor playing Malcolm to run around in Cannes in a troll costume to promote the film. Phil actually refused the request because it was too hot outside.

Then when the circus performer put on a costume instead, she was the one who passed out from the heat exhaustion. So Phil told Charles, I told you, and then continued to bring it up whenever the director asked him to wear the bulky costume again. So half right, half wrong, and I appreciate that correction. Terrible, terrible.

Wearing that fucking costume around Cannes. All right, anyway, I think they made George Clooney and Brad Pitt wear wolf costumes for their new movie, but who knows? That's a real inside joke. I don't't think people know the name of that movie yet I'll be robe Movies called wolves Albie Robles says hey June is right mixed nuts is the best movie

But Julia Louise Dreyfus is not in it the rollerblader described by Jason is played by the great Parker Posey. Yes, of course, of course. So how much does June really like it? We'll never know. Anyway, so many great corrections and omissions this week, but there can only be one that is the best one that truly stands above all the others. And I have to give it to the person whose life is in the most amount of danger.

Raina from Rochester, you are the winner. And I'm giving this to you now because I'm afraid that your brother is going to get you. So anyway, sit back and enjoy this amazing song from John Astonish and Trey. And then when you're done, go on the run. You can never be found. You.

How to discol-y. Win. How to discol-y. You. How to discol-y. Win. How to discol-y. How to discol-y.

You. How to discol-y. Win. How to discol-y. You. How to discol-y. There it is. Thank you, John, Astonish and Trey.

And once again, congratulations, Raina. All right, people. We got here. I got some fun for you. It's a good one. Okay. Remember, if you want to put one of your songs, you want to be like the next John, Astonish and Trey, all you got to do is send us a song at how did this get made at earwolf.com.

We're accepting songs for corrections and omissions, just chat and winner themes. Keep them short. 15 to 20 seconds is best. And a winner theme even shorter than that. And if you want to chime in with your own thoughts about the latest episode, hit us up on the Discord at Discord.gg slash H-T-T-G-M or call us at 619-P-A-U-L-A-S-K. All right. Coming up after the break, Jason will stop by for Just Chat, and then I will announce next week's movie. But first, check out this deleted scene

from our troll episode where we discuss if it's weird that the kids in the film share a bedroom. You know, it's interesting, because we were talking about the floor plans and the layouts, right? And how big these apartments are, these big, giant apartments. You'd think if you had this much space in an apartment,

your two kids wouldn't need to share a room. Jason, I was so upset that they were sharing a room. Like, I thought it was so strange that those two children at the ages they're getting to are sharing a room. That was odd to me. It looked weird, though. I think that my gut is that they,

I don't know if it was exactly the same room because when, or maybe it's just bad camera work because it seems like their beds are on opposite. No, it's the same room because he looks over at her and she looks back and is like, hee hee hee. OK, I thought that the troll is stuck in. No, they fall asleep next to each other in two twin beds. Yeah, and the shadow of the troll is going over his face, and then he looks, and it is the troll,

then he looks back, and it's her. How did this get made? How did this get made? All right, people, I hope you are keeping up with our Matt name Mondays. Every Monday we release a film, or an episode of our podcast based on a film that we watched. And this is a favorite, a fan favorite,

because it wasn't released for a long time. It is 2001 Swordfish with John Travolta, of film that we watched. Uh, and this was a favorite, a fan favorite, because it wasn't released for a long time. It is 2001 Swordfish with John Travolta and, uh, go listen to it. Uh, I believe that was in Denver where I just was. And, uh, next week's matinee will be, um, Judge Dredd, Stallone back in it. All right. Without any further ado, it is now time for a Just Chat with Jason. Rob, play us in. Now we're just gonna talk about movies and books and shit. Jason and Paul are gonna come over and sit down

and just chat. Jason. Paul. It's been some time, just you and me talking about the stuff that we like. Just digging in on all that stuff. I got to tell you, I know you'll appreciate this, because sometimes it's a just chat,

sometimes it's just a Star Wars chat, but I wanna bridge it here and say that my eight-year-old has finally gotten into Star Wars. Yes! Very much a big Boba Fett person. Ooh, I love that. Here's the weird thing. Learning about Star Wars through the Lego game

and then coming through the back door with the movies. So... Interesting, yeah, sure. Loves Return of the Jedi, but learning and like coming to me and saying, hey, and this is a spoiler for, I mean, this is out, but they're like, oh, did Kylo Ren kill Han Solo? And I'm like, what'd he ask?

He's like, cause I just played that level. I'm like, yes. And he's like, okay, well, I wanna watch that movie now. Oh, the game gives away. Oh, that's interesting. No, that's too bad. Oh yeah. That's a bummer actually, but that's, I love that.

I remember talking to a friend of mine years ago who said that he was trying to force his son to wait as long as possible before showing him the next movie in the, that was up. He was like, I want him to have the experience we had, which was talking about it and asking questions and thinking about it and then waiting

and having to wait until the next one, rather than, oh, within a weekend, he's watched all three of the original and then next weekend all three prequels or whatever. Yeah, well, this is the issue is like sometimes, also you go into the schoolyard watched all three of the original and then next weekend all three prequels or whatever. Yeah, well this is the issue is like sometimes also you go into the schoolyard and then they reveal everything.

But you know, I'm so interested in watching my kids start to wrap their heads around movies now. Yeah. Like in a different way. And look, he watched Empire Strikes Back when my older son liked Empire Strikes Back, but has no memory of it. And now he's in and what he likes and what he doesn't like

and what he wants to see. But what I found is, and this is gonna tie it all together, he really loves Han and Leia and Luke. And knowing that they die, he's like, I don't wanna watch that, nor do I wanna watch the ones before it. Wow.

He's like, I don't wanna see them get old, which was, you know, really an interesting. Well, because like that's especially those first movies, I mean, all the movies that really are for kids, and you're seeing a kid, you know, a teenager, I guess, you're seeing in the eyes, through the eyes of a teenager, so then that feels doable to then see Luke Skywalker as an old man or is crazy.

Well, and so thankfully what we have found is the Star Wars comics, which take place right around. Yes, and so this has been a huge boom. He is right now reading a great comic about bounty hunters. It's right after Boba Fett has taken Han Solo's body and carbonite to Jabba the Hutt. So it's like, I think it's called Revenge of the Bounty Hunters.

It might be, Jason Aaron might have written it. We're reading a lot of Jason Aaron. It's the one where everybody is trying to find where Boba Fett loses Han Solo frozen in carbonite and all the other bounty hunters, all the crime syndicates, everyone is after the carbonite Han Solo. And it's working great. Great, I love that.

And that has really become a big one. The other one that he might like is the first Darth Vader run where it takes place right after Sith. And it's about young Darth Vader needing to go and find his lightsaber. Not to find a lightsaber, to find, it's so great. And this was in the fantastic Leslie Hedlund,

our friend, past guest of the show, Leslie Headland's show, The Acolyte. This is featured in it a bit, the idea of bleeding a kyber crystal, of taking a kyber crystal, a regular kyber crystal. This is how a Sith lightsaber is made. They find a kyber crystal and they bleed it. So it goes from blue or green or whatever, to red.

There are no red lightsaber. There are no red Kyber crystals. And you saw it in, in the acolyte and in this comic book is the other place it is where Darth Vader has to go and find a Jedi who was not killed by Order 66, battle him, get his lightsaber and bleed the Kyber to create Darth Vader's lightsaber.

Ooh, you see, I haven't read that one. I read the one where, which is the one that I think should be made into a movie, the one where Darth Vader crashes on a planet. Vader Down. Ugh. Vader Down it's called. So good.

So good. So good. And. And then of course I will say, this is a non, a character who's yet to appear in live action, all of the Doctor Aphra stuff is so fantastic. Oh I love Doctor, yeah. I mean Doctor Aphra is great. And that's where I have to kind of figure out

how to get in. Like right now he's playing Star Wars Battlefront all the time, he's playing Lego Star Wars, the Skywalker Saga, and then he will watch me play Star Wars Outlaws, which I talked to you, we texted about this. I haven't, I downloaded it the other day, but I have yet to play it.

I know much to the internet's chagrin, I enjoy it. It's fun, it's my perfect type of game, where I can commit to, it's the level of time and commitment that I have that is fulfilling. You know, basically- Well, and I feel like I read a little bit about it and I feel like the stuff that is annoying people,

I'm not good enough at games to be bothered by. That's exactly where I fall on it. I am having so much fun because, you know, after the first chapter where you do this big robbery, you get sent to a planet and you have to raise money and there's four syndicates on this planet. And you have to kind of not only run jobs for them, but also play them against each other

and you're standing within their syndicates. So you, like part of it is it's really fun. You have like, it's really fun. And the, I think the thing that I read that encapsulates it perfectly is like, it's a fine masterpiece. Like it's like, it's like, fine. It's like a fine masterpiece though. It's like, it's weird.

I think people wanted more, but I'm incredibly content. I also feel like it's probably my level of gaming, you know? Yeah, I'm just gonna be excited, I feel like, to explore Star Wars worlds. I know that the game, you know, the note that I heard was that the game is kind of just like other games. It's not like it doesn't have enough special moves

or special guns or special this's or that's, but that the game, the worlds, and all of the Star Wars-iness of it is incredible. And that's what I really like about it. And I'm having fun. Exactly, that's what I'm after. So all in all, in my very limited playing, because now when I got, I mean this is really nerdy, but I bought it for my son for his birthday

and when he goes to bed I'll use it, is that PlayStation Portal. So it's basically, you can play PlayStation wherever you want. It's, it's like, I'm trying to think of how to describe it. Like a switch. Is it like, yes, essentially it's exactly a switch, but it connects to your PlayStation. So as long as your PlayStation is online, you could just jump in.

So like last night, uh, I'm just playing in bed, having a great time, like, cause it's like, oh, you know, play playing and then I'll go and we went away. Can you play it on your Apple vision goggles? Can you play it on goggles? No, I think what you would, maybe you could, this is more like, it's a, that would be, to have your hands be able to do that and see it, that would be awesome.

To run around on a Star Wars planet and have it be your entire field of vision would be incredible. Oh, I'd love that. Have you explored at all watching any of the animated shows with him? Like if you started Clone Wars, that might be an interesting avenue in because it's all

about them being young. And that's what I'm trying to figure out, like where is his entrance to the star? There's also Young Jedi Adventures. That seems too young, right? That seems like it's like they're like babies. So I have to find like this middle ground of LEGO Star Wars. They're younglings.

Okay, yes. They're not even Padawans, they're younglings. Anyway, they look very cute. And not for nothing, I play Bolter the Hutt on that show. What? Don't you worry about it. Oh my God. I play, I don't know if he's a teenager, I play a villain, a Hutt villain,

who all the kids are always getting one over on. I love that. Oh, I'm so jealous of that. I know, it was the fastest I've said yes to anything in my life. That is truly great. I love that, I love it. He likes these characters and he likes Boba Fett.

So I'm trying to figure out how to get like, Lego Star Wars is perfect because he's got a good sense of humor. So he's loving to laugh at it and he's finding the jokes of it. So I'm like, again, I don't wanna overwhelm him, but I show him stuff and I let him pick up. And I think the next thing I'm gonna probably figure out is like, maybe the Clone Wars is the way mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean,

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I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I out how to watch it. Exactly. But yeah, so we're trying to, I'm just trying to get there with him. I'm trying to cause, you know, like we are,

we're watching, we're watching Bob's Burgers, which is great. The best. And. The absolute best. Yeah, really. And it's, he's loving that. So we're figuring it out. We're figuring it out. I love that. I love, I love Bob's Burgers.

I think that's one of the consistently most wonderfully funny and heartfelt shows on. I love, I love Bob's Burgers. I think that's one of the consistently most wonderfully funny and heartfelt shows on and is a, it's a constant rewatch for me. It is truly one of the best. I'm a huge fan of it and, you know, I'm not, I've never been on it, but I am still a huge fan. But it's one of those shows where I'm like,

everyone's on the show. I feel like I may have done something wrong. I, and, and I live with a slight panic that I made a mistake. I think we all have that list. We all have that list in our heads of like, how come I haven't been able to ever do that? That's a hmm, how come? And you know what, and sometimes I know this

from many a times, you go, oh, I don't wanna give that to that person who's too small. Oh, I wanna give them, you sometimes get to a zone where you start to, you go, oh, I don't wanna give that to that person, it's too small. Oh, I wanna give them, you sometimes get to a zone where you start to, you almost, you make it so elusive that then there's nothing that will be good and then you never get that person in the show. So there you go. What have you been up to?

I've been doing a lot of, boy, am I watching a lot of stuff. I've been doing, I've been on a lot of, boy am I watching a lot of stuff. I've been doing, I've been on the road a bunch. So I've been just crushing stuff, sitting in a Vancouver hotel for Percy Jackson, just watching episodes. I've been just obsessively watching original Law and Order. Like Jerry Orbach, Sam Waterston, Law and Order. Like Jerry Orbach, you know, Sam Waterston, Law and Order, from Chris Noth to Jill Hennessey,

from, you know, every iteration. I've been watching so much old Law and Order, and it's a blast. It's so fun. Those are really fun. They're fun. Every week, the guest stars are like Patti LuPone and here's Dennis O'Hare.

Like, incredible Broadway actors, season after season coming in. It's a blast. Um, I've been watching Shorzy Season 3, came and went and was absolutely phenomenal. I don't think it has been a while since we've gotten to talk because my list of stuff to watch, a bunch of it is like Shorzy season three, Alone season 11, you know, like incredible stuff

that has now finished or is wrapping up. But Shorzy season three, I think, was just a phenomenal TV series. I love it. I have to get, like, and this is the thing, June, and I don't wanna blame my wife, because she's amazing, but she does not want to watch a lot of stuff that is not someone

who has been brutally murdered, which is always hard. That's tough. Ooh, you know what you guys might like, speaking of? Because I'm still on my kick of like, any kind of mystery, murder mystery detective, I will watch it. Yeah. So, um, there's a show called Diara from Detroit that's on BET Plus that is so good and so funny and it really is the kind of show that I love and that I feel like, boy, am I glad

she's making this show. Um, it's just what if a murder mystery happened to a regular person? Like a school teacher in Detroit goes on a number of dates with someone who then disappears and now she's trying to solve the mystery while maintaining her regular life, which is that, the careening back and forth is dynamite.

I love that. And I will say that I've gotten into a lot of heist things lately. I've been watching a lot of heist stuff. Ooh, what do you got? Oh, there's a movie. I don't know if you've ever heard of it, because I never even heard of it.

It's called Dollar Sign. And it's Warren Beatty and Goldie Hawn. Oh, wow. And it takes place in Germany with the actor who played Goldfinger in Goldfinger. So the premise is Warren Beatty does security systems for banks or really this one bank, making it the most secure bank in Germany.

And it's a heist. I won't go into it more than that because I think I'll start to unravel too many threads. Goldie Hawn plays a sex worker who has already been working with Warren Beatty and they have a little scheme. But the climax of the movie is quite literally a 35 minute foot chase.

Like, and it is at first you're like, this is stupid. This is silly. I'm not into it. And then minute seven hits or minute eight. And I'm like, this is the most dramatic thing I've ever watched because it's just two men running after each other. And neither of them are exceptionally, they are fit. They are running for very important purposes and it's sloppy and weird.

And it is like, at the end of it, my heart was racing because it's just, it's so simple. I can't even, and it blew, it blew my mind. That movie, I mean, it may be not my favorite of all them. I really liked it. But it all started because I watched that movie, The Instigators, which people seemed to hate, but I loved it. I loved that too.

I watched half of it. I'm that too. I watched half of it. I'm enjoying it. I mean, I'm a sucker for a Doug Liman movie. Me too. You know, I'm gonna quibble with some people's Boston accents, but you know. Well that, I mean, yes. But that's to be expected.

But yeah, I'm enjoying it. I don't, I also similarly was kind of like, why don't people like this? This is totally fine to me. It's just like a fun, I mean, I'm just watching it. And I'm like, you know who's great in it? It's fucking Ron Perlman, man. Ron Perlman.

I haven't gotten to Ron Perlman. Oh. Oh, shit. When you get to Ron Perlman. Oh my god. Ron Perlman, like, that's when it like, oh, I can't wait. I can't wait. There's some, you will enjoy it.

Like, if you haven't gotten to that part yet, you haven't even seen some of the good stuff. That's interesting. No, no, I don't think I've seen any of the good stuff. I really just watched a bunch of the act one. And I was like, okay, I'll come back to this for sure. You'll like it, I guarantee it. But that's the kind of movie,

that kind of street level crime movie, is what I love and what so much of what we talk about too, because like, and I've been rewatching, like I just rewatched Get Shorty and LA Confidential. And a bunch of- How is Get Shorty? I watched it and I'm like- Get Shorty. Good? I mean, it's good. It's good. You know what it is?

It's a perfect 4 p.m. on a Saturday movie. Okay. I would have been, I would be a little disappointed if I watched it at like nine o'clock, eight o'clock prime time, but it was a perfect afternoon. Like what a blast that movie is. LA Confidential, home run. Great, fantastic.

Well that's amazing. And you know, I have to say, I rewatched the entire Ocean's Eleven trilogy as well. Oh, that's great. And I, you know, every now and then you go back and go, oh, I was wrong, I was this. I gotta say Ocean's Twelve is really good, is really, really good because it's like,

I think it's that thing where we get into a zone in the moment, right? Oh, it's not the same thing that I liked before where it was they did the thing. It's like, but it's better. It's like they actually took it and evolved it. And whereas the third one I like, and it's the third one is like kind of like a real like.

Ba ba ba ba ba. The third one is super nuts. And really goes off the rails, I think. But those movies are fun. Those movies are fun as hell. They're fun. And it's like, it's fun, but I thought that too,

is truly like a bit of a masterpiece in using all these characters in a way that didn't feel redundant. And- And I'll put another movie that I feel like didn't get as much play, but is in that same playbook, is Logan Lucky. Oh, yes.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yes. The Soderbergh heist movie, you're talking about heists. The racetrack movie, yeah. The other, the Soderbergh heist movie, you're talking about heists. The racetrack movie, yeah. The racetrack, yes, the heist movie that is, you know, Daniel Craig and that crew. And I think that's a fun, super fun movie. That was like, I couldn't.

That is in the same world as what we're talking about. When you got like Adam Driver, right? Yeah. And Channing Tatum. I think the thing that was jarring to me the first time I saw it was that thing of Daniel Craig being like, hey, y'all, you know, but the origin of that accent,

which we've now grown accustomed to. Now we just think he's, what, he's just from Alabama? I think Daniel Craig is like, sometimes I'm James Bond, the most sophisticated man, and sometimes I'm like a gator man crawling out of the swamp. What else have you been watching? I wanna shout you out for, we'd never talked about our friend,

Ed Brubaker's Batman animated, The King Crusader. Oh, yes, yes. And you were on as the twins of the penguin. Yes. And you were terrific, but I thought that show was dynamite. How good is that show? It's truly, like, it gave me everything.

I guess I just haven't seen a show like that. I'm hoping that the new Penguin show, the Colin Farrell HBO show. Has that vibe. Yes, because there's something exceptionally fun to do Batman in that type of world. I mean, I think it's like, to put it in the 40s, it just, I think, makes it better.

But I also just think the underworld, that crime, I thought they did a fantastic job. That was truly the best job ever. What a cool, what a cool thing to be a part of and what a great show. I had a blast watching it. And great cast, great stories, like a really, an adult revisiting

of Bruce Timm, Batman the Animated Series. Like really great stuff. Ed Brubaker, you know, who we've talked about a million times, who's been a guest on our Daredevil episode, one of the best comics writers working in the game, his Reckless series is incredible. All of his stuff is just fantastic.

And Ed right now, I think it's okay to announce that Ed is right now in production on bringing these things to life, which is... Oh, he's making Criminal right now. They're making Criminal for Amazon, I believe, right? Is that right? Amazon? Yeah, and they were shooting up in, I think it is Amazon, they were shooting up in Seattle.

We were doing our show. Or Seattle. Yeah, yeah. One of the, and- Great, I could not be more excited. If you're looking for graphic novels, crime-based stories, these are not superhero stories, these are not supernatural stories,

crime-based street-level detectives and crooks and con men. You can do, I mean, Ed Brubaker is the top of the list and the criminal books are phenomenal. It is an interwoven series of characters and time periods in which just basic crimes are being done and it is just fantastic. I love these books. Can't recommend it enough. And I'll tell you, you know, as, because it has been announced,

Charlie Hunnam is the lead. You have people like Richard Jenkins in it. It is going to be like a who's who of your favorite characters, actors. I'm excited for it, I can't wait. I can't wait. I will say a bunch of other stuff just to throw out there.

There is, I talked on this a while ago about the four hour documentary about the making of RoboCop called RoboDoc. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. There is now a five hour documentary about the making of Aliens. I just saw that last night. Aliens expanded. It's incredible. I just saw that last night on Plex and I was Aliens Expanded. It's incredible.

I just saw that last night on Plex, and I was like, wait a second, how did I not know about this? And I was like, I have to... Is it good? It's great. It's great. It's very similar to the Robocop one. It's great because they have everybody.

Everybody who's alive is participating. It's Sigourney Weaver, James Cameron, all the actors, everybody who's alive. participating. Wow. Sigourney Weaver, James Cameron, all the actors, all the, everybody who's alive. So it's similar to the other one and they're just telling stories. So it doesn't have a real, it feels almost like a fan documentary in the sense that it's overly long, it's indulgent, and it's a lot of it is just storytelling. But that's what I loved about it. I loved hearing about the camaraderie and hearing about what it was like on set,

everybody talking about how incredible and wonderful Bill Paxton was, just really great stuff. And you know that the writer or director of that, Ian Nathan, is getting ready to start shooting The Thing expanded. Ooh, great. Oh, that's a home run.

I love that. Yeah, so they- I think that's fantastic. Ooh, cool. Oh, that's a whole lot. I love that. Yeah, so they- I think that's fantastic. Ooh, cool. So yeah, there we go. All right, Jason, we're gonna wrap it up right now and we will be back in a little bit. Are we gonna be back?

We'll be back next time. Next time? All right, people, I hope you enjoyed my chat with Jason, but it is finally time to announce our next movie. All right, next week we'll be going from a Rat Burgers to Double Decker Bologna Sandwiches. That's right. You didn't have to be a brain surgeon

to figure this one out. We will be watching one of the best worst movies of all time, 1990s Troll 2, which has absolutely nothing to do with Troll 1. That's right, nothing. They just took the title. As a matter of fact, Troll 2 is about goblins. But here's the idea, right? A vacationing family discovers that the

entire town they're visiting is inhabited by goblins disguised as humans who plan to eat them. Okay. Rotten Tomato gives this film a 5% score on the tomato meter. And Nick Schaeger from Lessons of Darkness writes, it's rare to find a film with such an anonymous reputation that actually lives up to the hype. And guess what? Nick is right. Let's take a listen to the trailer for Troll 2. You and our city. Powers of evil are very strong here. Look at her, Dad! I'm sick! They're eating her! They're going to eat me! Kids with a sweet tooth like yours love ice cream. Delicious and pure wine.

and to be your own one. Troll 2 is available to stream on Amazon Prime Video, Free V2B and Canopy. In addition to Canopy, Hoopla and Libby are two more digital media services offered by your local public library that are absolutely free. All you need is a library card and sometimes you don't even need that because you can just sign up for a library card on the app. It's a great way to do it. The Libby app, I love it. Consume TV, music, audiobooks, ebooks and comics for free. That's right and that's it for me. That is all for Last Looks. If you listen to us on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, please rate and review the show. It helps us. Plus, make sure you are following us and have automatic downloads turned on.

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