How Did This Get Made? - Matinee Monday: Birdemic LIVE! (w/ "Weird Al" Yankovic)
Episode Date: October 2, 2023"Weird Al" Yankovic helps Paul, Jason, and June break down the 2010 horror film, Birdemic: Shock and Terror, recorded LIVE at the Largo theater in Los Angeles. They dig into all the bad CGI, un-needed... B-Roll, the Tippi Hedren “cameo,” and ponder if the environmentalism of this movie really works. Plus, special guest Whitney Moore (Nathalie) joins the crew to answer all their questions about the filming of this movie, including how she ended up auditioning for the film and what's the deal with that orange bathing suit. (Originally Released 02/28/2012) HDTGM is going back on tour this Oct & Nov! Go to hdtgm.com for tix & info.For more Matinee Monday content, visit Paul's YouTube page: youtube.com/paulscheerFollow Paul on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer/HDTGM Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmPaul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheerCheck out Paul and Rob Huebel live on Twitch (www.twitch.tv/friendzone) every Thursday 8-10pm ESTSubscribe to The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael here: thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcastSubscribe to Unspooled with Paul and Amy Nicholson here: listen.earwolf.com/unspooledCheck out The Jane Club over at janeclub.comCheck out new HDTGM merch over at teepublic.com/stores/hdtgmWhere to find Jason, June & Paul:@PaulScheer on Instagram & Twitter@Junediane on IG and @MsJuneDiane on TwitterJason is not on Twitter
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Imagine Alfred Hitchcock's the Birds without the drama or the suspense.
But with a hundred percent more machine guns, driving scenes and birds that spit acid.
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how this get made for all the people who didn't make it.
I don't care where you're from, you're assholes.
Because we have a guy from Australia that came here, right guy from Australia.
Australia made it and that's the farthest place anywhere.
No matter where you are, Australia is the farthest from you.
So he made it so you have no excuse next time.
We have an amazing movie here tonight.
The movie is Birdemic, Shock and Terror.
If you have not seen this movie, stop, stop everything.
Well you in the crowd, you can't leave, But I would recommend everyone, if you're at home,
watch it first.
It's amazing.
It's, you know, when you think about maroons like,
when you think about movies like The Room,
Entroal 2, they're good.
This, better.
Like this is more, I don't even know,
if Edward is living through this director,
and it's awesome.
We have a great show for you, not only.
Do we have a very special guest to talk about, Birdemic?
But we have someone from the actual movie, that's right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Whitney Moore, star of Birdemic.
Yeah.
One and
two
We're gonna talk about that. We're gonna talk about that later
She will be here to talk about it. Tell us what it was like to be on this the set
I hear the movie took place over four years. I don't know if that's true. I would like to believe that it was
As always I am joined by my co-host Jason
man Zookas, welcome Jason.
I'm a sweet, I'm a sweet, he's loving Mike Douglas kiss.
No. Oh no it's all done, it's blunt.
You may have blown it out.
The bit may have blown it out.
Normally, June Diane Rayfield is here.
She might be here.
She is coming from a shoot and she was very late and coming.
So she will join us eventually.
But we have a very special guest, this guy.
What can you say about this guy who's our guest he
is amazing comedy genius a New York Times bestseller gran nominated for Grammys
coming up one Grammys one more things than you ever want to know and please
welcome Al Yankovic I'm nervous. I'm nervous. I'm nervous.
I'm nervous.
I'm nervous.
I'm nervous.
I'm nervous.
I'm nervous.
I'm nervous.
I'm nervous.
I'm nervous.
I'm nervous.
I'm nervous. I. Yeah. Yeah. We got a standing onvation.
That is.
I am furious that I did not get a stand on it.
How dare you.
Oh.
Well, we are so excited to have you here.
Two.
And now you are a fan of Birdemic.
I did not know that before.
We asked you to do this.
Perhaps my favorite movie ever.
It's pretty, what do you like more?
I like the videos. Do you like the shock or the terror more?
You know, it's 150, 50, I like them both.
Yeah, they both have their merits.
I'm finding that so distracting in a way that is like,
no, not in a way to get rid of it.
In a way that I'm like, all I want is to stare deeper
into his eyes.
For those of you at home that don't have the visual component,
there is a screen on with a picture of the lead character.
The people at home do not matter to me.
They are irrelevant and I will spend most of this podcast talking only to the beautiful people of this audience.
Amazing. You are all that matters.
You are the winners tonight.
You got a one-person standing ovation.
You know what?
Very nice.
Thank you, Sir or Madam.
All right, so let's get right into it.
My first, I think, would you just go,
let's take away the idea that the sound and the video
elements are terrible. Like, whoa, whoa, take away the idea that the sound and the video elements are terrible.
Whoa, whoa, you want to take that away?
Yeah.
I mean, I think we could talk about it, but that is, I mean, we could just acknowledge
that that is going to be a runner throughout the whole video.
Oh, wow, you have a next movie.
Yeah. You have a little sound matching from shot to shot.
I remember.
I could spend 15 minutes just talking about the wet kissing.
We'll get to the wet kissing.
The kissing scene is the, I feel like whatever they shot
was then dubbed in with like,
pfft.
Pfft.
Just like hours of ADR to be like,
no, that's not wet enough.
We need a wetter kiss.
There is some curious ADR in the movie, though,
to throughout the whole,
there are some rerecord elements in there.
You rerecord the kids.
Yes.
But then for all the beach singers,
like the Royal Yorch are like,
I can't hear it out of battery to cut.
I can't hear it out of battery to cut.
I do like that.
I think the quality of this film is a little less
than some of my home videos that I made in the late 80s
It was like shot on like super eight
But yeah, all right, so that being said the opening another opening that is like seven minutes
Driving yeah, I have to say I have to say I really didn't stray the opening titles. I thought Helvetica was a bold choice. I was thinking.
That was nice.
And I like how the camera was slightly a skew,
a little Dutch angle on the camera
for the whole driving sequence.
Because that was a little bit, that was for a boating,
that's what you know.
Oh, everything's a little skew here.
Something's happening, a little crazy.
Do you, I feel like the reason why the movie is,
like, the Dutch angles is because he couldn't fit in the car properly
So it's like just somebody like yeah
Go go drive
Framble arm against the window same guy driving the machine like how's it?
Is this guy?
I felt like there was an element of this movie where they needed to show us
How the characters got from place
to place in real time.
As if to say, maybe those people are going to be from this town and they'll know you
couldn't get there in a couple of seconds.
It really was epic.
It was a 10 grand budget.
That was all like gas, right?
It was like, oh yeah.
Oh, there's like, in the very beginning, there is like a static 30 seconds of a chevron sign
with gas prices on it.
I was like, this is bananas.
Well, I was gonna ask who the editor was,
but editing implies like something's taken out of the movie.
No.
And they use every single frame.
It's like, you know, we've got all those driving footage.
Well, what are we gonna do, not use it?
Well, there's also, there's also,
well, we could edit here when all of the characters
have stopped talking.
No, no, no, let's let it go on 10 more seconds.
The fact that it opens up, it opens up like the shining,
a car's driving, you think, oh, they're going somewhere.
But you find out, no, they're all in the same town
the entire time, they're not going anywhere.
And the opening music is like a lethargic organ grinder. And it's just like, he says, we stay on the sign.
Oh, gas is 4.13.
He says, it's down.
It's down.
Let me think about that for 30 more seconds
while I'm looking at that sign.
I got to say when I did stare at that sign,
I was like, wow, it's pretty expensive.
Yeah.
Uh, you know, by the way, not the only getting gas seen.
No.
That is, no.
That is just the first of three getting gasses.
Because Jason clearly there's a moral that gasses bad, right?
What?
I never, I didn't clean that from the move.
Oh, guys, there's some really subtle morals going on
in this move.
Some subtle messages.
We'll get to some of those.
I would be remiss if I didn't mention that in the opening,
the title sequence
it says supporting cast. Yes. Yes. As if there were multiple supporting cast. These are just
a couple of them. The director is Vietnamese. I'm English is that his first language. So
you have to give him a little you know. I'll give him leeway but hopefully there was a proof
for you. No, no, no, no. There was a point where I wondered if English was anybody's first
language. I think that's the reason why they stay on signs like the art and punk No, no, no, no. There was a point where I wondered if English was anybody's first language in school.
I think that's the reason why they stay on signs like the art and punk festival for 30
minutes.
Oh yeah.
So you can read it even if English is not your language at all.
You can learn English at the time.
You can get a book out, you can get a book, you can rock at it, look it up.
Oh, okay.
Oh, 439 a go.
Man, the, there's so much good stuff.
I just want to give you guys a taste of what the dialogue is like.
Oh, please.
Our main character, Rod, goes into a restaurant.
And this is when he sees Natalie for the first time.
Here we go.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Sound props out. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Sound drops out.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I don't mean to bother you.
What?
I forget I mean from somewhere.
Really?
Yeah, did you go to San Mateo High School?
Yeah, how'd you know that?
I went there too.
I'm not a murderer.
So are you from here?
Not really.
My mother lives up here, but I'm from San Francisco.
What about you?
San Jose.
I remember you now.
You're my English class.
I was.
Yeah, I said two seats behind you.
You remember that far?
Yeah.
You were so cool.
What do you do?
There's a tree here now.
I'm a fashion model.
And a beautiful one too.
Thanks.
Well, it was nice talking to you.
I should really get going.
I've got an audition for a lot of talent.
So it's good talking to you.
Say it again.
I'm going to chase you again.
Get ready.
I want to chase you more.
Okay.
So yeah, I have to say, I would be nervous if I were him because the only conceivable reason
she would be interested in him is because she wants his kidney and
He's gonna wake up in a bath full of ice cube going. No
Because if this movie was not called
Birdemic you would think this is a movie about a crazy
Okay, who has like been pointed a good
The birds don't show up for 47 minutes.
OK?
This is Halloween.
It's half the moon.
It's half the moon.
47 minutes of the movie are a autistic man's pursuit.
Are an autistic man's pursuit of a beautiful woman.
For purposes, I believe, of murder.
Well, James. Well, James.
But James win, he fashions, he tells him
to stop the master of the romantic thriller.
So this is the romance part.
Although I think you may be confusing romance with rapy.
It definitely has some rapy elements in it.
I have to say, though, the character Natalie
is quite taken by the serial killer though.
He is too...
Why is the vibe?
The vibe that he's giving up, maybe that's the way to...
It's like the anti-game, you know, just like stare longingly, have awkward pauses and maybe they're into you.
What has he got going on there?
I think all beautiful women will fall for a man with like a vacant stone look on his face
Who like is given to give into statements of just flat effect?
Just like like everything he says is just like I really think you look good
Yeah, it was like it was like somebody put the movie in Google translator. I was like, yeah
Good we got it That works in it.
I make sense.
I'm not for a sale.
I'm a salesman because of my naturalistic delivery.
Oh my god.
And my comfort with people.
Let's let's let can we keep in contact.
The monologue he gives about how he became a salesman is,
like, if you're an actor in the world
and you need to memorize monologue traditions,
please do this in auditions.
It's next level bananas.
There.
I also like the little things.
She's like, oh, they are when they're out on their first date.
She's like, what do you like?
He's like, well, I like the 49ers.
And I also like the Pittsburgh Steelers.
He's like, it's like this long list of Facebook likes.
It's like, it's kind of the face. It likes. It's like, he's covered in Facebook.
He's really giving you everything.
It's not gonna skip.
I like pizza.
I also like pepperoni pizza.
Yeah.
And I like pepperoni.
And fruit at the bottom.
You know what I mean?
Did you notice how much both when he's,
he drives like a Mustang.
He drives like a Mustang.
Hybrid.
Yes, it's a hybrid, which he explains later.
Which you can still look cool and drive a hybrid.
Message.
He both drives and walks so slowly.
Everywhere he goes in this movie, that I genuinely was like,
he got a piece of direction that was like, just don't move fast.
So you can see him very manneredly walking slowly.
Well, it alternates. It's like the whole Ed Wood's kind of like editing.
Because he's like walking at a brisk pace and you catch him going little slower.
And then he went fast again.
Well, and that's him. We just watch. He bolts out of the restaurant
and then slowly creeps down the street.
He's not, yeah, you don't know the intent of it.
I have made up a story that he had incredible brain trauma
and that was part of the exciting addition to it
that he recovered and now is a very successful software sales.
By the way, I would love it if that became
like part of the canon of this movie.
My fanfiction, my Burdenic fanfiction.
He is a suffer of a brain trauma.
I have to appreciate it to know that
you know the director's occupation was where he got to,
or all the money to make this movie.
I know it was a software salesman.
What?
Never imagined it.
So did he catch a big fish and make a million dollars a day?
I don't believe it.
Oh, the dialogue where he makes the big sale.
I love this, he's on the phone with somebody and he says,
okay, that's great.
And I'll take it, take off 50%.
Great, thanks a lot. Bye,'ll take it, take off 50%.
Great, thanks a lot.
Bye, I just made a million dollars sale.
He just gave away a million dollars
in the last 10 seconds.
Like, he had to deal almost wrapped up.
Who just cut off a million dollars?
All right.
I feel like he was on the phone with a crazy person.
He was like, I got a million dollars,
and I have it here.
Yeah.
In a normal movie, he would take the phone away from his ear, and you would
be, he would hear like, if you would like to make a call, then they'd take up the try
again.
Like, he's clear, and they would be like, hey, you got to, you know, clean up the shit in
the bathroom and stop sitting in a people's desk.
I haven't found the whole scene very glingery, gling Ross.
That dialogue between him and his body is just like generic business talk, business talk, business talk, big and deals, I'm making deals.
People with deals.
It's like, it's kind of like if you were in, if you were in inception and then suddenly the camera drifted off like the main characters who went to the background people. It's like, this is what they're talking about.
That is like, it's like, oh, it's like,
he's in carrots, he's in carrots.
Rubo, Rubo, Rubo, Rubo.
But I need to, there was this whole section
of the movie is juxtaposed with Natalie,
who has gotten a Victoria's secret cover job.
Yes.
But right now we're seeing it
at one of her normal modeling jobs,
which takes place in a one hour photo
Now obviously there is some chemistry between those two characters in the first I would say obviously there is not and there's a lot
A lot of chemistry zero chemistry a lot of chemistry. There is more chemistry between Natalie and the birds
Well, let's see how he roos her for a date.
I just another criminal scene here.
So, how's your day?
My day's going well.
How's yours?
Great.
I made a big sale today.
Good, fantastic.
Thanks.
I had a close big job offer today with Victoria's Secret.
Wow, congratulations.
I think you look great in those lingerie.
Thanks.
So how about the energy celebration, sis?
That was fast.
I know a good Vietnamese restaurant.
Sounds delicious. I'll see you then.
For those of you at home, they're just sitting. They're just sitting.
I'm really surprised he didn't give directions.
Well, first you turn left on Mary Ma,
and then you turn right to the gas station. I'm trying so hard to impersonate human emotions
I am the Burdenic
He was definitely not an alien from another planet
My first part of that thing was actually the favorite you cut out is that like he calls
This is like 10 minutes after the first office. Yes, 10 minutes afterwards and she gets to call the car
And she goes hello, and he goes hi hi, is this Natalie? Who's this?
Oh, it's that, that rapie guy that you met
and he's been a surly like, oh, I'm plus and surprise.
I also like, he goes, how about dinner?
And she goes, that was fast.
Well, what would be the next step?
Like a pre-dinner phone call?
Hey, I would like to call you in a couple of days
to invite you to dinner.
Well, they will go.
Like, you know, she's, yeah.
And if it's a reference,
so James will win representing.
Yes.
And he says, I know a good Vietnamese restaurant.
Oh, Vietnamese restaurant?
Yes.
Vietnamese.
Vietnamese.
Because I was like, what the fuck did this guy just say?
And I know a good Vietnamese restaurant. Yeah, it is Amize. Because I was like, what the fuck did this guy just say?
And I know a good Vietnamese restaurant.
Yeah, it is close enough.
Do we need to do it again?
No, no, I got it.
Move on, move on.
We got three more years to get it.
And by the way, that was like 30 takes in just to get Vettin' Amize.
And then when they do get to the Vettin' Amize restaurant,
Oh, that's all the part of the wall.
Oh, oh, oh.
We slow pan across a bunch of like restaurant art,
like a very, not even that impressive piece of restaurant art.
But for a long time, you really get to look at this like full wall.
If not just the pan, it's like a slow down stop.
And pan some more and stop and pan and stop one Mississippi two Mississippi three
Mississippi okay oh my god so they you know they're hitting it off things are going
good but there's there's there is one of my absolute favorites Hi, Jim! Hi, I'm Gettis Eater.
You're welcome.
You missed, you missed, uh, just a recap.
Oh my God, so much.
No, we're not even near the birds yet.
We're still within the 46 minutes of the movie without them.
We're at the, uh, Vietnamese restaurant.
Vietnamese restaurant.
My favorite thing is, I became obsessed with...
Now I'm obsessed with bad movies
that have their main characters place forts with each other.
The character...
It's like this movie has him and his buddy playing basketball.
That in a way I'm like, all I want is for them to meet up with Tommy Wiseau and the guys from the room.
They're playing football.
You know, this basketball scene is as bad as that football scene.
It's really weird about the end of the scene, too, is that they're like, you know what?
Let's knock it off for a while.
Let's just say this post-up stuff, then they start walking away and just stand in the shade.
Yeah.
More than just the shade, they stand in the corner of the basketball.
I was like, you know, it's too hot because of global warming.
Woo!
And you got to respect those trees because in the future,
when you're playing basketball, there will be no trees.
And join them now.
You join them now.
And his friend is like that classic friend, Artip.
He's a real horn dog.
Yeah.
He's like, he's beyond horn dog.
He's like, a date without sex is a date wasted, man.
No, but yeah, they kind of...
Oh.
That guy is my favorite person in this movie.
I do want to say that we skipped over my favorite part was,
it was after the dinner, they go dancing, but CGI dancing.
Oh, that's the thing.
So, really, couldn't get a club,
they just dropped the green screen down.
Oh, yeah. And it's like put club stuff behind. He only wants them a whole club. So, really, couldn't get a club, they just dropped the green screen down.
And it's like put club stuff behind.
It's the only ones in the whole club.
Yeah, the only ones in the whole club just slowly, dang it.
Yeah!
Oh, that one! That's another dance one!
This is O. CGI one.
Which one is that?
This is after they got to get in the first dance scene.
The first dance scene where it's only on CGI.
They're not even in the club. They had an inexplicable green first dance scene. The first dance scene where it's only on CGI. They're not even in a club. They're not even in a club.
They're an inexplicable green screen dance sequence.
Yes.
The hardest thing to shoot is a dance club.
So sometimes you need to CGI.
Yes.
That was a crazy stuff.
I may be repeating some V-Verticubber,
but have you talked about the size of the TV
that's going to be sketched?
No.
Nor have we talked about the glac of the TV back in the sketch. No. No, nor have we talked about the glacial-y-paced newscasts
that have been throughout this movie.
And I love how the newscaster is in the lower right hand corner.
She looks like she's on her tiptoes.
Like, it's so, the polar bears are like the cameras
almost knocking her head out of frames.
That's how they all frame newscasters.
Like a bug in the corner. And's how they always frame newscasters.
Like a bug in the corner.
And it's such a generic newscaster.
She says, or she has a line where it's something about the polar bears or the birds, whatever.
Due to not finding enough food, such a seal.
Such as seals!
Just in case you didn't know what kind of food.
These are the people that are giving our characters the news
And then she stares at the camera for three seconds as newscasters are wanting to do yeah
Just and then just and then so deliver the news and look vacantly into camera for an impossible
That's why CNN is number one
Man, we oh my, Jerry from Solar Power accessory.
Oh!
Solar Power, hopefully you.
Accessory.
Getting an estimate for a solar panel on your roof.
You think the panel is set up so that he'd sort of,
because of the bird's epidemic,
would come to the realization that, you know,
solar energy is really important.
He's gonna turn green, but the way that it's set up
in this movie, he's already decided that. Oh, yeah, well the arc was just very quick
Yeah, he's having newscast and you're like oh, I get it all right
And then put this together you're saying that that newscast made him get the solar panel. Yes, no
No. Oh, really?
No, I don't like that.
I like that.
I like that.
That's because he's already driving a hybrid car.
He already has green fever.
Okay.
I think.
Well, he also starts a green company the day after he gets a million dollars, and that's
not a $10 million.
So that's not a $10 million.
He starts a green company after.
Does it mean he started after the company is bought by the other company for a billion dollars?
Yes, and he gets a billion dollars even by the way, which is nice.
For a company that appears to have 15 people.
No, I wonder if they will make the billion dollar deal till the last minute they went, okay, 15% off!
No!
No!
Well, I also like how we delivered a billion dollars, because this company is going to buy this company for a billion dollars because this company is gonna we're gonna buy this company for
Like the night head tilting to it. Then there is a solid minute and a half of clap
Every Totally real you'll see it at home. You'll hear it. Here we go prepare to have your minds blown
All right, I'm assuming this is all the employees. Please help me give a warm welcome for our CEO Bill Stomp.
Ladies and gentlemen, I have some great news. Our board of Directors has agreed to the acquisition of NCT Software by Oracle Corporation for a billion dollars. Can anybody else clap it? I think it's a more than one. That guy's stopping. You guys, we're talking about your stock adoption.
Congratulations.
Congratulations.
Give me a hand.
Well, we'll clap it in.
We'll clap it in.
Look at this one.
There must be no more clapping.
We're really doing it.
We're clapping. Two, three, of that. I'm about to sit in there.
They're down.
All right, thank you.
We have a stock clapping.
Oh, my God.
I do want to point out something.
This is something that no one at home will be able to see,
but it's so worth it here. Look at this.
There are just power strips on the table.
And the power strips.
There are literally two empty power strips pointing at each other on a table.
This is a billion dollar company.
This is the shit that's worth a billion dollars.
That's what's solid.
That's amazing. I's what's solid.
That's really amazing.
I've never seen that.
You wasn't going to see all the deal,
but then I fell powerstrap.
Those guys have a need for power.
At any point you can plug in at this company.
Oh, man.
The awkward sex scene between the-
Wait, which one?
Well, between the creepy, not the sex-up friend,
and his girlfriend, which starts off
with the worst poster on the wall, Imagine Peace,
which is something she's involved with
because she has t-shirts, she wears, everything is-
subtle message again.
That's like the phone of website, it actually is.
No, it is, really?
Yes.
I checked, yes.
What is happening?
And I guess she's supposed to be some kind of doppelganger for Yoko Ono, obviously.
Well, her name is Fred. Her name is Len. And Todd is supposed to be Paul McCartney.
And the whole analogy goes deep. It's very deep.
It's very deep. It's very deep. It's amazing. I believe her name is her name,
my, which is the name of John Lennon's Lost Weekend lover.
Right? Okay. My pain.
There's a bigger question, guys.
Why was she wearing a bathing suit?
And why was she fully closed?
Because it was fucking awesome.
Well, I love that Natalie calls her.
She answers the phone and she goes, oh, you're busy.
And she goes, what does it sound like?
Like you're talking to me on the phone.
Like, there was like, Like you're talking to me on the phone. Like there was like,
unless she was able to hear what was going on
in the room before the phone call went up.
Which is actually just some kissing.
Yeah, it was, it sounded like,
yeah, nothing out of the ordinary.
Oh man, that sex scene was pretty hot, right?
That sex scene was a bum.
I hardly noticed that Tate the. Hadron was in that scene.
Oh, let's talk about this.
The third build person in the movie.
Third build is Tippy Hadron.
She's on the TV set in the background during the sex scene.
That's it, that's it.
Third build in the credits.
And Tippy Hadron.
She's on the TV.
She's not even in the mood.
But she a part of supporting cast.
She's a buzz board again.
She may be on above the title player of Birdemic Shock and Terror.
And you don't even focus on her in that scene.
It's not even like really focused.
And the reason they add that footage is because she was in the director's first movie.
Yes, which was like a romantic...
I know, or romantic?
Romantic romantic, maybe.
There was no thriller element.
No, I don't know.
The second movie, do you hear about this?
What was it called?
replica.
Yes.
Which is a total vertigo ripoff.
He's like going through his career ripping off Hitchcock.
He's the only one to hit cock movies
in vertigo in the Birds or his two-made.
He's like a crowd-crust-burning Gus Van Sant and Ed Wood.
Totally.
He's like, oh man, I want to see that Vertigo movie.
We do that on the show.
Let's just wrap this up right now and I'll go on.
Yeah, I'll go on it together.
All right, so they go on in a double date.
They see inconvenient truth.
Oh, my God.
Oh, holy shit, that was crazy.
And the sexed up buddy has a real epiphany.
He's like, he really gets into it.
Check him a little longer.
Yeah, more than a newscast for him.
I thought I wrote it down for what he said, but he goes, I gotta get back to work.
And they go, it's so late.
You got work, you go, it's sensual work.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry to get back to the bathing suit.
But you think it was that they didn't have lingerie
that matched, but they had, she haven't
have a bathing suit with her, do you think the actress
felt like, I know I look really good in this orange bathing suit.
Was that a bathing suit? It was really opaque, I couldn I look really good in this orange bathing suit. Was that a bathing suit?
It was really opaque underwear, I couldn't tell.
It was definitely a bathing suit.
It was a bathing suit.
Because it had like the hooks around the waist.
They was, yeah.
I think that was a choice that made total sense for me.
I think they told that actress.
I was gonna be into that bathing suit.
I think they told that actress bring some lingerie
and they actually said, I don't have any.
I'm just gonna bring my bathing suit.
That's what I think. I feel like they said you're gonna do a naked scene and she's and she was like no fucking way
I'm wearing my bathing suit
These orange color to maybe they're trying to get away with flesh colored there and they're trying to
This is this is where I wrote 30 minutes in and still no bird attacks
Please someone get attacked by a bird.
Instead of getting attacked by a bird,
they go to a parade.
How happy was the director?
Oh, it's the art of pumpkin parade.
We'll spend eight minutes at the movie here.
It's like bad, whole movie footage.
You see an apathetic vampire tossing candy
to kids off a floor?
Tractor, I'm a tractor!
Of a tractor!
This is real!
This is real, this is serious!
There happens!
There is stuff in this movie that I feel like somebody was like,
Oh, I shot my movie and it's 40 minutes short.
I think it was like I shot my movie and it's 15 minutes.
I need to fill the red yet. That's what I've said, it it's 15 minutes. I need to fill the red.
That's what I've got.
It's 40 minutes short.
I need 40 extra minutes.
Sometimes I go, there's a parade going on.
I just go shit.
Oh, God, that's a good idea.
Why not just show people driving in every place they go.
Wicked slow.
It's like Lars von Trier without the art.
Yeah.
The dogma movie.
It's a real dogma movie.
And then this is at the point where there is the second piece where he sells
his revolutionary green tech company, where he gets funding rather, he starts that company,
which happens the day after he gets his million dollars.
Yes, yes. This dude's life is happening so fast.
And then it goes on another date with Natalie and it goes,
I was so lonely until now.
Well, that's it.
Well, by the way, to the number of people
are telling Natalie that she needs a backup plan
to her modeling career.
Like at some point, it's very rude.
She's a beautiful woman. She's doing's very rude. She's a beautiful woman.
She's doing great.
Yeah.
She's a Victoria's Secret's cover model.
She's doing amazing.
Yeah.
She's got the whole thing with her and her mom.
Oh, yeah, we have to, she goes,
my mom is not supportive, but every time you see the mom,
the mom's pretty supportive for the first three quarters
of the scene and at the end, she starts to take her down.
I look, she said, she said, sister, mom, like,
mom, I think I might have a guy that's interested
in me.
Your mom says, you're kidding.
Like, oh yes, how unusual that a hot woman would have a guy that was interested in her.
And I also love that the mom is like, you need to get into a solid career.
Like real estate.
You know, something at the bottom will never drop out on.
You'll always be making millions and real estate.
It's minute 44. There's still no bird attacks. And this is a little, I'm gonna play this scene. We'll
watch it and we'll go. I think this is audience participation time actually.
Yeah. As we become the NCT star, what did I work for?
Was bought for a billion dollars by Oracle Corporation. And this week, my starter company that I founded,
MassSolar, that funded $10 million by Evergreen Capital.
You saw it!
You can catch this!
Thanks.
My Apple.
This looks like it's not a mini mall.
It's the show at that YouTube video.
This goes on for another minute and 50 seconds. Hang it out with the family, heaven offsets the party.
This goes on for another minute and 50 seconds.
Look the white man there.
It's so good.
And I feel like this whole movie is favors being repaid
to everybody.
It's like, I'm making a movie.
You'll be in it and you'll sing.
I think the movie was built around this song frame.
Like a killer song.
If we were to move it around the world.
And the lyrics in there too are like fixing their favorite dish,
hanging out with grandma.
Like, what kind of fun party song is that?
Yeah, we're going to go eat with my grandma.
And your house table.
They are also the only people in this restaurant slash dance
club.
Yes. They are.
There is a man singing on stage, and there are main two characters. people in this restaurant slash dance club. Yes. They are.
There is a man singing on stage, and there are
our main two characters.
There's not another person in the environment.
Oh, my God.
They're like, I'm just looking now.
There's sandwich between two tables,
and there are like drink special cards out and catch ups.
And this is just the most unsexy spot.
It's about to get unsexier, because they're
about to have a sex scene.
Finally, Rod and Natalie consummate their love.
Shit, yeah.
Okay, because we're missing a scene though where they decide where to go.
Because, work me if I'm wrong, they don't go to her part.
No, or I'd get out of the house.
He lives in a beautiful house.
I tell you, this guy is ready to kill her.
They go, the birds didn't attack.
She would have been in that bathtub with all the eyes.
Yes.
This is welcome to the wonderful worlds.
This is a whole section.
Freak me out.
From the motel sex scene to the wet, wet kissing,
to the birds.
This part really scared me, actually.
I was pretty upset.
I was pretty upset, you guys.
Well, principal, when she's changing into her lingerie,
and she does actually wear lingerie,
and that's, and she looks great.
She comes out, he's been watching television.
I assume so.
Which is disturbing.
And she comes in.
And he's watching television.
No, he's not watching it on the bed.
He's standing in the corner of the room,
watching television and a black he's not watching it on the bed. He's standing in the corner of the room watching television
and a black wife beat her tea.
Like, just waiting for her.
Nobody moves to turn the TV off.
No, no.
That TV's just on.
And the TV is, I don't know, like a quarter of the screen.
Like the TV and its imagery is a prominent part of the shot.
Yeah, it makes the proportions of televisions in this movie are play a large role.
Again, that's a message.
Why don't you be stupid?
I need to know why this couple doesn't believe in tongue kissing.
They only believe in this kind of kissing.
Okay, I'm gonna say that is the choice of the actresses,
and I applaud them both for not getting naked
and not tongue kissing those two dudes.
I agree, by the way.
I agree.
Because this is-
Strong will women, that's what we applaud that day.
46 minutes without a bird attack.
So when they wake up,
so they have an uncomfortable sex scene,
they wake up the next morning to a bird.
She sees birds.
Oh no, we know they had sex.
Well, we don't because when they wake up in the morning.
The big intermingling of their feet says they've had sex.
Wow.
You got to talk about the big bird reveal.
I mean, they have the sex scene.
And then we go through like 40 minutes of B-roll.
Like, oh, here's a nice shot of the ocean.
Yes.
Here's a English pub, and here's some horses.
And it goes on forever, then it fades out, and then fade up to burlapagolips
Oh, yeah, yeah, what is happening when it really is crashed out?
It's that it's that stark because they're showing just buildings
It's just building you're falling asleep. You're like being lulled into this calm thing and then all of a sudden
Well, I have that scene.
Oh boy.
Why do birds explode?
Why are the birds exploding?
Birds not only explode but they dive bomb and bomb and they make the sound of a falling airplane from World War II.
They're like the red baron.
Look at that.
Look at that.
Look at that.
Just explodes.
Yes.
There we go.
That is that is bird of popular.
Oh, I like that.
Can I get over the hovering bird?
It's like a screen saver.
Yeah. It's like a flying toaster from a commercial.
Yeah, so that is, now let's talk about these birds.
When they do come, I don't understand.
Yes, they sound like a dog's squeaky toy.
Like, they sometimes get to create acid.
They sometimes sacrifice themselves to a gigantic explosion. They are kam to create acid. They sometimes sacrifice themselves
to a gigantic explosion.
They are kamikazis.
They are like suicide bomber bird.
But then sometimes they'll just land
and rip out your eyeballs too, right?
They're multifaceted bird.
Which is explained by the fact that they have the bird flu.
Right.
Right?
Of course, yeah.
Because the bird flu makes birds spontaneously combust.
Flammable.
But they keep asking like what's going on here with the birds and the answer is always
cause of global warning.
Maybe.
Definitely.
I can't commit to that, but.
I also like when they're trying to escape.
The reason why they can't get out of the place is Rob's like, oh, the battery's dead in my phone.
And he's like, ugh, I can't find my keys.
I find the charkeys.
The worst idea, I guess, like, oh, the two.
Really, those are your obstacles
that you can't you lost your keys
and you didn't charge your phone after a hot fuck session.
Yeah.
So obviously they get attacked by these birds.
Now they have to escape and they escape with an even crazier couple,
which there's no reason to switch couples in this video.
No, no, not really.
And those two guys are very similar.
And they're fairly interchangeable,
except that this guy has automatic weapons.
Oh, well, before he has an M16, he has the code hangers.
Yes, of course.
Let's look.
It's the best code hanger fight team since Mommy Durant.
I guess that is.
It's great.
It's awesome.
And then afterwards, like, oh, you had M16s?
Oh, why didn't you tell us?
We had the code hangers.
But that's the thing is, they appear to be able to move
almost effortlessly amongst the birds.
Yes.
If code hangers are doable, and then just get to him,
it's like a shitty minivan full of weapons.
Right.
Again, this man was there to kill his girlfriend too.
Yeah.
This is where the crazy people take their girls to kill them.
This is murder Island.
Yeah.
What I love is you can tell that the actors
didn't know how crappy those special effects were going to be.
They're like committed like,
ah!
Yeah. That was co-hangers. Yeah. They know that they're in a rubber band movie. Yeah. you can tell that the actors didn't know how crappy those special effects were gonna be there like committed like
co-nangered. Yeah, they know there is like a bad movie. Yeah
What are my favorite things is the birds were too dimensional
What are my favorite things of this movie is clearly they're stealing shots in and amongst just normal life
So like there's scenes where the guys are running around shooting birds with giant weapons and traffic normal traffic
The guys are running around shooting birds with giant weapons and traffic normal traffic. Yes, normal meandering traffic is just driving by them and they're like, you're in the
right, and it's just to do it like there's no-
45 miles an hour.
No hint that there is like any sort of pandemonium or anything at all.
You just hear in the densely populated area, shoot automatic weapons
any place.
There's a point where there's like, they're standing there.
There's some birds, and behind the birds is just homes. And they're just like, rrrrrrrrrrrrrrr the movie takes a gun and aims directly at a bird that's attacking
her friend and like, there's no room for error in that shot.
And it has no problems or bam, got it.
And then sometimes they're like trick shots.
Like, they're just getting these birds, like with the machine gun, like one falls from
the sky.
Other times, they're shooting at a flock of them
and none of them are affected at all.
So it is random.
When the bullets work and when they don't work.
How about a really animation with the birds die up?
Yeah, boom.
How about this?
And it says they have acid in them too,
and they fall in.
How about this, guys?
If you're being attacked by birds,
roll your fucking windows.
I'm not kidding.
How about that?
Why roll the fucking windows?
How about this? Go inside. Stay inside. Stay inside.
Don't shit outside.
Well, wait.
Don't shit outside unless you want to die.
Don't cook outside.
Don't eat outside.
Can we just talk about the eating?
They're hungry because they've been fighting and they go, they get food from a convenience
store and they go on a picnic.
I want a picnic!
Okay, I want to talk about the first half of the first 46 minutes of this movie takes place inside without a bird epidemic.
The second half of the movie when the bird epidemic happens, they never go inside another building.
Except to get snacks to eat outside.
Yes, except to get snacks to have a picnic with children who are having the best time,
even though their parents were murdered hours before.
A girl was afraid to get out from underneath the car and they literally dragged her out of the car
and then two seconds later she was playing a PSP.
What's up, I'm getting you. literally drag her out of the car and then two seconds later she's playing a PSP. Like, whew, whew, whew, whew, whew, whew, whew, whew.
What's up, I'm candy, dude?
They still can't, they get, they give these kids way too much candy.
Oh yeah, they're not good for me.
They're not good for me. They're not good for me.
They're not good parents.
They're a terrible surrogate parents.
Oh, also, did you notice when they're in the convenience store,
Natalie is shopping for champagne.
Oh, what did you get to say?
After, after they get the sandwiches, there is a cutback and they're in the wine aisle.
If you're going down, go down to the ice-coffee of Pino Grigio.
I actually watched the director's commentary on this move.
Oh my God, what did you have to learn?
Is that seen where the clerks' eyes are picked out?
Yes, the director of the thing.
Well, the shopkeepers eye being picked out,
that's my homage to Alfred Hitchcock's The Birds.
Oh, I forgot the book.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
All right.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
Along the way, I'm there, adventure,
they run into a weird farce guy.
Oh my God.
And a scientist.
Yeah, the Dr. Jones.
Oh, you've got old man like, there's an old man on the bridge.
He must be in the 40s.
Yeah.
Yeah, not old at all.
And he either get out of here.
Get out of here.
These birds are contagious.
And then they walk closer.
I thought I told you.
They're just like, whoop, whoop, whoop.
We want to see what's going on.
They go, go. Well, you can, you come over to our pick, we want to see what's going on.
Go, go.
Well, you can, you come over to our table and talk to us.
All right, here he goes, Robert.
And he gives the most insane lecture to them
about the bird flu and its cosmic global warming.
And he's like, I can't say for sure,
but science tells me for sure
that this is what it is.
Yeah.
He is, he has the,
he has the verbiage of a person
that you might run into when you leave the drawing room
late at night, like you know, like the bar late at night
and you're like, oh birds are full of food.
It's bad, and I know, and I have proof
and they're coming for us.
Beware.
I think we just wanted to discredit
global warning to anything else.
He does this whole nice speech about global warning.
He says, there's also proof that birds picked out cavemen's eyes.
Yeah!
Okay.
He's an insane man.
And they went back in for the kill later.
I, um, why I have a picnic outside?
Literally on the beach where the seagulls all...
Like, I just wrote down picnic and I circled it so big.
A picnic.
I wrote, I wrote, why are they eating outside
and put 100 exclamation points of question marks?
Um, Paul.
You think they couldn't, I mean really, why were they outside?
Eat and shit in the car.
It's terrible.
Drive away, drive away from where you're going.
Drive to a home, go inside of it.
You have homes, you're in the same town,
but they are exclusively going to the coast.
Because it's like even if you thought, well we're definitely not gonna make it through this
bird-demic, I would rather have a dignified death in a home, like a human being.
Well, well there you go, that's your first mistake. These are not human beings.
Also someone in there. They are all robots. So much during the bird- the birdemic they start calling the birds eagles
No eagles and vultures like yeah, yeah eagles and vultures are the birdemic
Yeah, it is called birdemic, but the eagles and vultures are the birds they're referring to that's the
Yeah, it's too much. I love when they're they're sitting there
It's like it's after the picnic and there's still with the couple who's not the couple it from the beginning
It's the new couple with the machine gun, and he's like well, where's your girlfriend?
Or whatever it goes she's taking a shit
She's taking a shit and that was a deleted thing on the DVD really crass
Really Chris and then cut to she's like a roll of toilet paper and a gun
And she's shitting outdoors and guess what she fucking dies roll of toilet paper and a gun. LAUGHTER
And she's shitting outdoors.
And guess what? She fucking dies.
And then fucking dies. That's what you get for shitting outside.
And then he goes, it goes all day, kill Becky.
And then the other guy, the robot guy goes, sorry.
LAUGHTER
Here is a taking the shitsie. Just so you can hear him say he's taking a shitsie just so you can hear him say he's taking a shit
Where is back? Just taking a shit
Pretty good at shitting how can we stand on the Marines?
I just got tired of all the fucking killing I run this is amazing. Oh
Why can't we just get peace of choice? I run this is amazing. Oh, oh,. There's so many messages going on here,
but this is also like, you feel like this is a chance for them
to really have this acting scene about his time in the military.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, boy, oh, boy.
And she fucking Becky gets her fucking shit killed by that bird.
Oh, my God.
I wrote, shit indoors, you fucking dummy.
Then they try to rescue people on a bus. I wrote shit indoors you fucking dummy
Then they try to rescue people on a bus and they're right and and this the people are safe
Yes, they don't leave no, we're gonna get off the bus They force the believe pull them out of their safe zone. Yeah, it's like no, we're good
These people
It's like no, we're good. These people have said,
Look at how I'm a picnic, come on!
And all of these people are killed.
It might understand it by the acid.
The acid, it's secreted from the birds,
which I've previously never seen in the movie.
So I was like, did these birds just piss on there?
What the fuck is happening?
Like they're all like, oh no,
and then a massive amount of liquid hits happening? Like they were all like, oh no,
and then a massive amount of liquid hits them.
It's kind of like, you can't do that on television.
Someone said, I don't know, the plot.
It's like some sort of, like for Demick Bukhaki shot,
that just fucking kills everyone.
Google it, guys.
By the way, all those tourists that were killed on the bus
were all a part of the same family the odds weren't
What they're all I watched the end crisis and it said did you see that?
I did that it was like Mary Osborne Karen Osborne Doug Osborne those were all just one fast
Probably there with our own photo
We own that bus. Oh
My god, they got.
I probably do.
Wow.
Well, have we gotten to $100 for a gallon of gas?
Yeah.
I mean, there's shit in this movie that
is fucking straight bonkers.
So it's like another gas station where it's trying to get gas.
And the guy's like, it's $100 a gallon,
but we don't have any left. And then our guy in typical robot fashion,
unfazed by everything goes,
but that's a ripoff.
And then he goes,
all right, I'll buy it.
And he immediately gets it.
This guy's only, he's not a master of the hard sell.
I mean, it was like, he's like,
all right, charge me.
He got a lot of gas.
He put it on half of the left, but no. Then he got a lot of gas. He put it on off the left, but no.
Then he got a lot of gas and left it behind on the street.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, by the way, don't go.
Take your stupid gas.
I don't mean to nitpick.
I don't mean to nitpick.
But he bought it on a charge card, which
means that this convenience store guy is like, well,
when that clears, I'll be rich.
Not like I'm going to die today on a cash money.
Like, he's totally fine with-
And apparently the-
Apparently check, I'll take it.
Apparently the birdemic has not stopped
any of the computer systems from working.
No, everything's fine.
Well, that's not a problem.
It's like, oh, the reason why he can't call someone
is that his phone battery is dead,
not that the phone lines are down.
Considering that town is destroyed like a World War II, it looks like the blitzkitty gas.
Yes, it is like a bay root.
Obviously, we have a very strong opinion about it, and I wasn't able to find many people
different opinion than us, but now it is time for a second opinion. ["Five Star Reviews From Brian Strait."
On a pure movie making standpoint,
this movie achieves negative stars.
So many negative stars it has to.
But this movie is so terrible, and makes every movie ever made a five-star movie.
The rooms through Plan 9 up to Inception and through Citizen Kane and Casablanca,
every one of them now a five-star movie.
And then Surrand writes, words alone won't do Bordemic Justice.
This isn't a movie. It's an experience.
Like having your brain fried on LSD,
spritz with lemon juice, and tossed into the Grand Canyon.
Which I think is probably the best way
to describe this movie.
Which I believe is the plot summary for Bredemic, too.
Yeah.
Why are the woods on fire?
Can anybody, does anybody know why the woods were on fire? I think the experience. Come and ask. Why do they even go into the woods on fire? Does anybody know why the woods were on fire?
We think the experiment is frozen.
Why do they even go into the woods?
They clearly got a whole case of bottled water.
They can pick up some more.
They kind of got through it back.
Oh, let's find some fresh water in a room.
Yes, stream somewhere.
Why? Why?
I wanted to know why they did that.
And then after that, they meet the hippie guy in the woods.
Then they leave and they go fishing.
They get fishing, they get fishing poles,
to go fishing, and he, he instantly is like,
I got a fish.
I didn't feel like all they're doing is eating.
I know they eat.
People have been eating disorder.
I need to know.
There are only once every 45 minutes,
they need a full meal.
I feel like I don't understand the timeline of the movie,
because it appears to take place in one day.
But I believe if I heard it from the director,
you would be like, it's one month.
You know, I don't know what,
time is irrelevant in this movie.
It is a foreign concept.
Obviously, one of the big things in the movie
is the bird squawk, the squeaky dog toy thing.
And I want to give a chance for you guys to participate here.
And I want to go up to you.
Do you think you have a great bird squat?
Hang on there on the house, why?
You guys have a good time.
The judge, which has the best bird squat here.
You have to get that bird squat ready.
That's pretty good.
It's pretty good.
It's pretty good.
Wow.
Pretty damn good. Raise your hand. Raise your hand if you've got a bird squat. Pretty good. Pretty good. Pretty damn good.
Raise your hand.
Raise your hand if you got a bird's clock.
I'm coming around here.
One more.
Get Australia guy.
You better knock it out of the park.
We want to hear the Australian bird's clock.
Who has one?
Anyone?
Bird's clock?
Bird's clock?
You have a bird's clock.
Yeah, yeah.
Ha-ha.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
Yeah.
You just said that.
For real?
For real? For real?
Your bird's clock is a bird screaming, yeah, yeah.
Oddly better than the sound effect used in the movie.
I would love it if all the birds were like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kick ass, kick ass.
Doin' it.
Where's my Australian guy?
It's happening.
We're going.
All right.
Australian guy, show me what you got.
Represent Australia. It's just called a cookabar. All right Australian guys show me what you got represent Australia
When that movie gets dubbed to Australian you'll go you'll get that that
It's too complex too complex. All right. That was very good. That was a little audience participation Anybody any final thoughts before we bring up our special guest? I still have no idea why the birds leave at the end.
Nope.
They go fishing, they catch fish, they're on the coast,
the birds come, and then they turn around and leave.
Oh, there they go.
Yeah, they seem like the birds come.
They've made their point.
Yeah.
That's exactly what I feel.
I feel like the birds are kind of like, get us?
Yeah. Cool. You got I feel like. I feel like the birds were kind of like, get us? Yeah.
Cool.
They're like, you got us.
Is that it?
The birds are just like, you know what?
You know what?
We've killed everybody else.
Yes.
You guys are pretty cool.
So we're going to leave you guys.
I see the hybrid.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's work, bro.
Cool.
You guys get it.
You're hip to solar energy.
And but I don't feel like they were, I mean, yeah.
They just, they fly away.
But I don't feel like they, I feel like it was a communal choice
to stop attacking, like just to stop attacking.
Not even just direct at them.
It was like, yeah, that was a good day.
Yeah, it was.
Let's go, have.
You know what I loved?
One thing that was pretty impressive was
the kills were kept tightening.
You know, like you've got dive bombing birds that explode when our guys have their gas and a cowboy sticks like,
is like, hold them at gunpoint to steal their gas.
A bird slices his throat with its wing.
That was amazing.
Ninja!
My bird is like, shh!
When birds get his bird flu there,
their feathers become like steel blades.
That was pretty awesome.
Well, I'm sure that a lot of our questions can be answered
by our special guests that we have tonight.
This person you've seen her in the clips here,
I think that she actually does an amazing job
with the dialogue that she is given.
It comes off the most naturalistic out of anyone in the movie.
Please welcome Natalie Whitney Moore.
Come on up.
Come on up.
Have a seat. Have a seat.
Thank you so much for being here and talking with us.
How's it going?
Awesome.
Have we captured the tenor of this movie?
You guys have reminded me of so many things that just went down.
Just so much.
My first question is, how long was it from start to finish
the shooting of this movie?
Seven months.
Seven months.
Wow.
Seven full months?
Because that's like an absurd amount of time.
It was mostly like four days at a time,
four, seven.
And then would you in fact shoot real time for four days?
Yes.
And just like you guys were like blue Valentine
just living in the movie.
You think of, yeah.
I would believe that.
What, I mean, I have so many questions,
I'm sure we all do, but talk to us a little bit
about the whole process.
Like how did you find out about this movie
was there in audition?
Anything from that?
Well, I had just turned 18. And I was very excited to be in a movie and start acting,
on film, all that good stuff and I got an email from a casting website saying,
would you like to come on audition for this feature for the lead and I said yes sir I would and I auditioned in the parking lot of a high school. Oh my god. Red flag number one. So you your real life
is paralleled in the move. So like that might as well be a modeling shoot in a one hour
photo. Just meet me in this high school park in Laudanois, audition.
So you audition and then when you look at the sides, or when you did you re-strat?
The sides were from replica. His last movie, which I found out later.
He called me about an hour later, said, you got the part and I said, movie star.
Yeah, awesome.
The scene that you were auditioning with so it wasn't like set in a parking lot.
This wasn't like screen text. Where was it set? It was it was set in a bar like hey
I'm a girl. And did he say anything like I'm sorry this is weird I know we're in a parking lot. No.
And so you get the part, and now, when do you start to realize that things may not be on the
up and up?
You know, people have asked me that question a lot, and I think the actual first red flag
that came up was when he didn't give any of us the whole script.
It's a son.
Kind of like William. William. It's a son.
Kind of like William.
William.
Very William.
The pages.
Yeah.
You know, but by then we had committed.
Yeah.
And now you're doing it, did you do it in sequence?
Or you do it out of sequence?
Like, we were supposed to film the love scene first.
Oh.
Instead, what we did was the Vietnamese restaurant scene.
I believe it's pronounced vet. I mean listen I know you're in the movie but like it's vet
the means. And is he another director? It was he like how is his directing technique? That's that pretty much says it.
I mean, does it give anything?
It was really, it was a strange experience because there was no crew, there was no anything.
It was just him and Alan who played Rod and myself so oftentimes.
There's no crew. Wait, wait, there's no crew?
I don't know, right? We're there for their cameras.
Oh, so you're like, we shot for a month without care.
Yeah, well, there was never, you've never had any microphones or there's no boom operator
or anything like that. At one point, and this is a story I like to tell is that I held the boom between my legs as we did a talking scene.
In case you sort of...
About how everything was going down.
It's usually... no offense, that's usually a union job.
So you're taking a job away from a union sound.
We brought you here to find you. How dare you? How dare you?
But what I love to know is did he ever let you improvise,
did you have to stick to the script?
No, he was really actually very insistent
that we stuck to his unique style of...
When you got gold like that, why would you want to...
Were there any lines that you remember
being particularly difficult to do?
I think the scene with Natalie's mom. Were there any lines that you remember being particularly difficult to do?
I think the scene with Natalie's mom was hard to get through.
Oh yes, she's gonna talk about that.
She forgets her lines.
She forgets her lines.
Yeah, that's fine.
It's good.
Yeah, she corrects herself.
She's like, did you remember?
Did you remember it too and it's all in there?
Oh, the other one, you're walking with a beach on the beach with Rod
and it's like jump cutting in the same shot, which means obviously the use and different takes
was there not like one take?
The scene where you can't hear the thing, yeah.
That was like the second weekend we started at seven
and at that four to get that scene.
Wow, wait, one scene all that time.
Wow.
Wow.
Well, there were sound problems.
Yes, sound problems.
There were sound problems.
You're telling me there were sound problems in this movie?
What?
You can't tell.
You can't tell.
That is news to me.
Do you know anything about that orange bathing suit?
I don't know anything about that orange bathing suit? I don't know anything about that scene. The only thing I can confirm is the
imagined piece that being in there was was something that was a line with
James's vision of being a you know an environmentally aware movie. But he
did buy the underwear and pick it out. So he wants a bathing suit. He wants a bathing suit.
Oh wow.
He wants a bathing suit.
Was there, OK, I have a question.
Was there, what were you guys instructed
to do when you were fighting the birds?
What was that like as a day's work?
The co-dinger thing was something that happened
I'm sure you can imagine out of nowhere because originally he was supposed to take
Part of the closet off and
Coding
It turns out you can't do that at motel six
You can't rip a bar out of the closet
So he stole a bunch of co-hangers and said was that do you think do you think that was a at motel six. We can't take that. We can't rip a bar out of the closet.
So he stole a bunch of conangers instead.
Now, was that, do you think that was a...
Do you think that was a subtle...
He improvised the piece of movie history, really.
Yes.
Well, see, I understood it to be a pretty subtle abortion message.
Oh!
Another message.
We got to get in there and abort these birds.
Messages, messages all over this movie.
So, Whitney, did you go to Sundance with the movie?
I did not. James was the one, I think you mentioned,
that did in the van that was in the movie, that was his.
Oh, damn.
That was the one that got sprayed with blood and feathers, he drove all up and down the strip.
And if he had not done that, I would have never
met Weirdo, so.
Yeah, it is.
But I mean, now that's, I feel like, I feel like, I mean,
it's been amazing.
The movie has taken on this cult-like status.
And I have to say, we were talking about this backstage.
I think you come off the best out of it.
Oh, yeah.
By far, by far.
Oh, go on.
You and Bird 2.
Yeah.
It's totally like you were edited in
from a much better movie.
Yeah.
But you have to feel a certain amount of pride to be like,
I was in one, there's a lot of bad movies.
But you were in quite possibly the worst movie.
I mean, it's, really, you're in the top tier.
I mean, that's the one that you would want to be in
out of everything, right?
I mean, and one was the first time you sought with a crowd.
Was that?
The first time I saw it with a crowd was a special friend and family screening.
It was before we did all the midnight movie stuff and before everyone kind of realized
how hilarious it was.
And it was being treated as a serious film.
And I hadn't seen it.
And none of the actors had seen it.
Only James had seen it.
And it was all friends and family.
So you invite everybody, you're like,
I'm like, I'm gonna move me.
Yeah.
I did not go up.
Where was this also in the high school parking lot,
this greening or was it?
Does your character, where did your character sing?
June likes to get into the game.
I'm not curious.
What happened between the restaurant scene and going back to the hotel?
Why didn't you go to the other place?
Why did you go to either of your homes?
In the script, it's actually supposed to be my apartment.
So...
Well, I do know this is a very serious part.
I'm actually very sure. It's very shot of your apartment. And when he wraps you off, I do know this is a very serious shot of your apartment
and when he wraps you off, I think after the first day,
it looks like you live in a tenement house.
Like, it looks like...
Adress has like six numbers and two letters.
Yes, it was like 336AB.
So they were...
So they were playing that as your apartment or no, they didn't.
Yeah.
And that's how I was.
But it's a motel.
As a fashion model, I would decorate.
Well, the fashion model, you live in a hotel.
You know, you have a very exciting life.
You can't be affording to stay in one place.
You can't pay that rent.
Yeah, but we've already seen the exterior.
Like, still remember that?
Yeah, that is like a disgusting motel.
Yeah.
Well, I will say, the one thing I will say is like,
you know how dirty that motel is because you see your feet in it,
and your feet are black from whatever it's been on that floor.
When you guys had to move the bed against the wall,
I was like, don't touch any of it.
I was like, that you all just got hepsy.
It's disgusting.
I actually, I hadn't noticed the feet thing
until like the second or third midnight screening
and people kept coming up to me after me
and I was like, what's up with your feet?
By the way, say when you're feet.
Your feet.
Most people are like,
your feet are so dirty in that way.
Your feet though.
So we are feet of dirties feet are so dirty in that way. Your feet though.
Your feet are dirty.
My favorite scene in the movie
come hit me in a parking lot.
I want to pitch a movie to you.
But truthfully, your feet are doing
a version of blackface in this movie.
It's a very interesting
racial message within the movie. Yeah, another one. Now, just very quickly, your co-star in the movie. It's a very interesting racial message within the movie.
Yeah, it's another one.
Now, just very quickly, your co-star in the movie, he is a robot, am I right?
He is a robot.
Don't make your talk bad about it unless you want to.
No, delightful man, I'm sure.
But he is an alien who is trying to learn human emotions over the course of the movie.
I can neither confirm or not.
I have a question.
I did notice he never touches water in the movie.
I have a question about the tree man at the very end.
Now he's wearing a wig in the movie.
Yes.
OK.
There's a shock of black hair.
What was up with that?
What was the actor's hair?
I can tell.
I used a clean cut guy and his James' rationale behind that
was that he needed to look more like a hippie.
And I was so much, he hired me to do the makeup fun fact
on the movie after the, last year did you take all the double-tips?
After the first two makeup artists quit.
So did you do the special effects of people's eyes
and stuff like that?
Oh, yeah.
Nice.
Wow, that's amazing.
Wow, great.
Nice.
That's good.
And so any other moments from that film
where you were like, we're like, this is a me, was there a point where you were like we're like this is a
Like was there a point where you start we'll just roll with it and like because you're set you're seven months in
So I imagine a month three you're kind of like all right a couple weeks in
I mean the first like I said the first two makeup artists quit that was already like the first two weekends
We could sort of realize what we were signing up for and we're like just do it and then seven months later
We're like, just do it. And then seven months later, we're like,
you're right.
And you know, you know, you has pointed out a lot of really awesome stuff.
It's like, this doesn't make sense.
This is why would you ever do this and anything ever?
And we had those questions too on set and we would ask him,
we're like, James, it doesn't make sense that we would go to a forest
and fill up a million water bottles.
Oh, well, that, I do want to ask, do you have any insight into how long a period of time
the movie is supposed to unfold over?
I have zero insight about him.
Okay, great.
What would he say to you when you said, why are we going to do it?
He would say, because it's a movie.
Oh!
Oh!
Good answer.
Good answer.
That's a! Good answer.
Good answer.
That's a great director.
I have to know.
At what point was James on board with it being a quote-unquote comedy?
Because obviously he didn't set out to make a campy movie.
Not until I would say three or four months, three or four months into severing,
signing with them and they had to sit them down
and be like, James, we could do something
and like have a lot of fun with Bordamic,
but you need to understand that it's not the action movie
that you think it is.
So like, he is, when it first came out,
he was like, did it, done it.
Yeah.
Like, you're welcome.
Yeah.
You know, James Neal does, he really does,
to a certain extent, still really believe in it.
What I think is great, he really believes in the message.
He really believes in everything.
Wait, what's the message again?
Yeah.
Just kidding.
Just kidding.
But now, speaking of the message of the first movie,
so Birdemic 2 is real.
It's happening.
It's happening.
So are you in it now or is it production where are you at in this stage of movie?
I'm in it.
We start filming in the next couple of weeks.
Have you seen?
I cannot wait.
Have you seen a script for it yet?
I saw the script.
Is the magic recreated?
It is, you know, it's going to be really interesting
because everything is supposed to be just like, let's do a thing.
You know, we're going to play it straight.
We're not going to be like winking at the camera.
It's going to be all reading James's dialogue like we did first.
Oh, okay.
But it will take, what will be taken away, I think, is the initial, like, all the sound
dropping out, all the technical errors.
And so that'll be really interesting.
That'll be nice.
You can hear it.
So there'll be a sound guy added to the crew on this one.
I heard.
I read somewhere that James wasn't going to do a sequel unless he had a $20 million
budget, so did he ever get that?
James said a lot of things.
In the world of the movie, as you knew it, while you were there, why did the birds leave?
Gosh.
Well, the way it was explained to me was...
It's a movie.
It's a movie.
I guess I'll be able to get that.
More than that, I think, Paul, you sort of touched on this, which is that, hey, you know,
these birds realize that we are cool with nature.
They're cool, they're on it.
You guys did a lot of research in that one day running away.
You talked to a doctor, you talked to a forest hippie.
Is there anything that you guys shot that didn't make it into the moon? Because I feel like there's connective tissue missing all over the place.
Everything that we shot made it in, except...
I'm not surprised about that.
Except the pumpkin scene was originally a green screen scene.
Oh.
But then we just, the movie kept happening.
So the pumpkin festival came up
Wow, I have to have to everybody in that festival scene have to sign a release or do they know?
Oh big trouble
No, we can you give us I don't know if you can
Contractually, but can you give us a little taste of where Natalie and Rod are now in the second film,
which is in 3D, right?
They are living in Los Angeles.
No, I don't think it will be in 3D.
Oh, obviously.
Maybe in 3D, number three in 3D.
Oh, yeah.
3D.
All right, that was a personal.
Oh, yeah, all right.
Rod and Natalie, as you can imagine,
are both very successful now.
Oh, yeah.
Ah. Very, yeah, the two of you together
must be worth a billion.
The power couple, right?
You're the Brad and Angelina of Half Moon Bay.
Yeah.
And you know, the movie is sort of focused on how to make it in Hollywood.
Now that James has made a successful movie, that's what we want.
It's reflecting that experience as well. But there will be birds attacking.
There will be birds. So, will you be an actress in a Hollywood in this one? Will you maybe
audition in a parking lot? There's some auditioning in it. There's some...
Are birds running the casting session?
Are you Anthony Cormonos again?
Roughly.
Again, too, the movie...
How long is the supposed shoot going to last?
Rough. I mean, it's not going to be seven months or so.
No, I think that it's going to be seven months. No, I think that it's gonna be on the weekends again,
because it's in school and going to be,
I would say about three months.
Okay, wow, isn't it?
Good job, did you?
Super quick question, do you think there'll be any dirty feet?
Hey, hey, hey, hey, sorry.
If there are my feet in it, yeah.
I'm just wondering, do you think there's any dirty feet
on this one?
Like, running around with your feet, get all dirty.
I'm a man alive.
I may open it up to one or two questions for you
if that's okay, have we?
Missing any questions for Whitney, I'll repeat them.
Was there any choreography in the movie?
Or is there, were you left to your own?
No, the robot was an artistic choice, his mind.
Yeah, I like that robot.
Yeah, because he doesn't look like he's ever danced in his life.
He almost looks like, and I noticed that in that shot,
it's like a two shot of you guys,
if he looks like he's hiding from the camera,
like he doesn't want to be seen dancing.
This whole thing, it was, like, an upset.
It took us a little while to get into hanging out
with my family, but then by the 30th take, we were,
you were hanging out with my family.
Yeah, do you, that's my question.
Do you have hanging out with my family and your iPod?
Yes, I think I need to get that on my iPod.
How long did it take to shoot that scene?
Like how many times do you have to listen
to hanging out with my family?
Well, a bunch.
Yeah, that's the thing. And actually ultimately being listen to hanging out with my family. Well a bunch. Yeah, I bet.
Man, you can actually ultimately be an easy scene because just do your dancing, you just
put that music in later.
But I guess it's one of those things that I feel like they play in Prisoner of War
Camps.
Just like that, that's how they play people.
Hang it out.
Is they just play hanging out with my family over and over and over again?
All right, one more, One more question from you. Was everything in Rod's performance a actor's choice?
Or is he actually like that in real life?
I'm going to say...
You can take the fifth, too.
None of it was how he is in real life,
but I'm going to say it was 80% actor's choice.
And 20% James moving the dolly very slowly.
It's like that episode of Dawson's Creek Lane.
He's in the wheelchair.
You gotta go, yeah.
Pa, it's exactly like that episode.
Thank you.
Get on it, Dawson's Creek Lane.
When Joey comes to the window and they decide to make the movie, so good.
Great.
Great. So, Dan is pissed because they run away.
All right, last question over here.
Yes.
You give a great performance.
You're great in the film.
But there are moments where you
seem angered or bothered.
Is that real life coming through?
Or is that a character?
I think that kind of thing is really hard to hide.
And so I'm going to...
Yeah, I mean I imagine there must have been some very tough days in that seven months.
There were weeks where James wouldn't talk to me.
Wow, a Kubrick style.
That's like, that's Hitchcock, that's Hitchcock too.
Oh yeah.
All of his directions would come from Alan.
And...
And Alan was the camera guy who I was slightly off the center, right?
Alan was the robot.
Oh, Alan's the robot.
Oh, wait, he would give it to another actor to tell you?
Whoa.
That does not help with chemistry on set.
Wow, how did you do it?
What if he needed you to put makeup on somebody?
Would he talk to you to make-up artists, but not you to actor?
There was a period of two weeks where I forget what was the catalyst to this,
but he kept comparing me to cathode-hagle and her relationship with ER. Wouldn't Dr. Mittle, you were questioning when he said,
it's a movie?
Yeah.
You were feeling some real tantrums, saying,
these things don't make sense.
Very difficult.
Yeah, she's so difficult.
She wants to see the whole script.
Oh, boy, actresses.
She wants to say all of her lines in a row
without 42nd pauses between them,
which doesn't make sense,
because it will make it impossible to cut awkwardly around them.
Oh, my God.
So now you are your back in school right now.
You've done some other movies.
Overall, it was a positive, fun experience, right?
After it happened, yes, absolutely.
Because we did the Minute Movie Tour, we'd screened up Sinner Family,
it would like all the time and there's one coming up
and it's become sort of like a really weird, fun thing in my life,
whereas before I was very worried about where it would fit into my life,
but now it's just kind of an awesome weird thing.
Do you get recognized a lot?
The people come up to you and are like, holy shit, you're Natalie from Birdemic.
The only time that's happened was at Comic-Con.
Really?
Can I just say if somebody does do that?
If somebody's like, oh my god, she ain't no, if you're in Birdemic.
You should be like, yes I am.
You may have for Whitney Moore.
Whitney Moore.
Thank you guys all for coming out to Largo tonight.
We really appreciate it.
You're gonna for coming out to Largo tonight. We really appreciate it. You'll have for Whitney Morgan up for,
Al Yankovic and Ken Al Yankovic.
Yeah.
The first time you've ever had a standing ovation.
Amazing.
So thank you.
I do want to just while we're all here,
just for it, because we have a second.
I want to show you something that we can never do in the podcast,
because it's too visual. Here we go. I don't want to say I'm that we could never do in the podcast because it's it's too visual
One of the people who listen to the show decided to make a graph of how many times we say literally
Wait as if I was broken down by person? It's broken down by episode. It's not by person.
Yeah, so let's see.
So the greens are Jason.
Blues are me.
Red is June. There's no reds.
June you're off the literally.
You gotta start saying literally.
It's cool.
And the guests are purple. But by far, if you want to hear the saying literally, it's cool. And the guests are purple.
But by far, if you want to hear the most literally,
which is 15, that is the John Daly episode.
Follow closely behind the Nick Crow episode
and the Adam Scott episode.
But we've done better now.
Look at that.
We do.
All the way to Joe Manu, our literally
are just down till only one. I don't think tonight we did any literatly.
Oh, I'm sure I did.
Not on purpose, I just can't stop myself.
This is the best chart of all time.
I love it.
I love that someone made a pie graph of it.
It was one of the first things that, like, I feel like when we started the podcast and there was, like like comment or boards that people would comment on
that people would infuriate and be like, please stop saying literally so much.
Yeah.
You literally don't need to say literally in every sentence.
I was like very upset.
People are literally pissed off with this.
It's like the people who correct grammar on Twitter.
Actually, it's there was.
Well, thank you guys so much for coming.
You are a great audience.
Give yourselves a hand.
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Thank you very much.
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